Marc Stein: Spurs are #1 on LaMarcus Aldridge's list

[Clipper Nation]

I'll only be pissed if he goes to the Lakers. It would be such bullshit that I almost expect it to happen. Hope I'm proven wrong. Also the NBA Forum would reach rock bottom, it's already LG 2.0 at this point. The same cocksuckers that will be bragging about LMA will disappear like roaches if the Lakers implode with him.

The Lakers blowing their load on Big Man Allen Iverson would be hilarious, tbh.

[spurraider21]

I wouldn't hold my breath on Aldridge or any FA for that matter. Spurs fans should just focus on them resigning their own players and worry about everything else later. Give Leonard the max, dont over spend on Green and pay Duncan whatever he wants.. Manu is meh for me.
How would fans focusing on that help at all

[BatManu20]

Portland Police Dept. doing their part :lol

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[AFBlue]

What are the odds of this passing the Pau thread?

That TSpence-fueled thread was epic and probably won't be beat, but if LaMarcus drags out the process it could be close.

[Mugen]

How would fans focusing on that help at all

:lol

[Hoops Czar]

Problem with your scenario is Kevin Love will never come to SA. He loves the bright lights, big city attention too much. LMA actually has reason to come here...

When was the last time the Spurs could offer a max contract? Players don't come to SA for several reasons: money, playing time and level of recruitment. The Spurs haven't had money to sign free agents. They don't always have the ability to give free agents the guaranteed minutes they desire during the time they hit free agency. The Spurs don't wine and dine free agents and the players and coaching staff rarely recruit other players. This year, the Spurs have the money to spend and playing time to offer. It's just a matter of going out and getting the right guys to fit the system. I don't think Kevin Love is all about the bright lights but, I do think there's a good chance he returns to Cleveland because they can offer him the most money and Lebron wants him back.

[goliath]

Jabari young was on news 4. He covers the Blazers for Comcast sports. He said he felt it was Spurs or Blazers for LMA. Said he was a Spurs fan growing up and idolized Duncan. Thought if Tim called and said lets win a title it would be hard for him to say no. Said he did and interview with LMA 1 1/2 years ago and he spoke so high of the Spurs and the organization that he felt even then he could end up here. Said he has talked to LMA's inner circle and the word that kept coming up was "championship". Asked about the mavs using dez and the Cowboys to recruit him and he said all the Spurs have to do is take him to the trophy case. Said he felt the Blazers could keep him if they make moves and bring in free agents so lamarcus feels the Blazers can win multiple titles.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Jabari young was on news 4. He covers the Blazers for Comcast sports. He said he felt it was Spurs or Blazers for LMA. Said he was a Spurs fan growing up and idolized Duncan. Thought if Tim called and said lets win a title it would be hard for him to say no. Said he did and interview with LMA 1 1/2 years ago and he spoke so high of the Spurs and the organization that he felt even then he could end up here. Said he has talked to LMA's inner circle and the world that kept coming up was "championship". Asked about the mavs using dez and the Cowboys to recruit him and he said all the Spurs have to do is take him to the trophy case. Said he felt the Blazers could keep him if they make moves and bring in free agents so lamarcus feels the Blazers can win multiple titles.

All these signs just keep piling on the anxiety :lol everything spells out LMA to the Spurs, but man. It's still crazy that it might happen.

[BatManu20]

Jabari young was on news 4. He covers the Blazers for Comcast sports. He said he felt it was Spurs or Blazers for LMA. Said he was a Spurs fan growing up and idolized Duncan. Thought if Tim called and said lets win a title it would be hard for him to say no. Said he did and interview with LMA 1 1/2 years ago and he spoke so high of the Spurs and the organization that he felt even then he could end up here. Said he has talked to LMA's inner circle and the world that kept coming up was "championship". Asked about the mavs using dez and the Cowboys to recruit him and he said all the Spurs have to do is take him to the trophy case. Said he felt the Blazers could keep him if they make moves and bring in free agents so lamarcus feels the Blazers can win multiple titles.

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[TheGreatYacht]

Jabari young was on news 4. He covers the Blazers for Comcast sports. He said he felt it was Spurs or Blazers for LMA. Said he was a Spurs fan growing up and idolized Duncan. Thought if Tim called and said lets win a title it would be hard for him to say no. Said he did and interview with LMA 1 1/2 years ago and he spoke so high of the Spurs and the organization that he felt even then he could end up here. Said he has talked to LMA's inner circle and the word that kept coming up was "championship". Asked about the mavs using dez and the Cowboys to recruit him and he said all the Spurs have to do is take him to the trophy case. Said he felt the Blazers could keep him if they make moves and bring in free agents so lamarcus feels the Blazers can win multiple titles.
Jabari Young, miss that nigga covering the Spurs tbh. Now we're stuck with clowns like the Project Spurs fags

[beirmeistr]

do the spurs have a meeting lined up for july 1? if so, duncan can persuade LMA

[rayray2k8]

It would help those who are to not get their hopes up by being delusional enough to believe a top free agent would sign with the Spurs. Name me one top free agent the Spurs were able to sign? and don't say Derek Anderson..

[TheGreatYacht]

It would help those who are to not get their hopes up by being delusional enough to believe a top free agent would sign with the Spurs. Name me one top free agent the Spurs were able to sign? and don't say Derek Anderson..
There's a first time for everything tbqh

[DPG21920]

It would help those who are to not get their hopes up by being delusional enough to believe a top free agent would sign with the Spurs. Name me one top free agent the Spurs were able to sign? and don't say Derek Anderson..

Duncan. Robinson. Ginobili. Parker. Soon to be Kawhi Leonard.

[timtonymanu]

It would help those who are to not get their hopes up by being delusional enough to believe a top free agent would sign with the Spurs. Name me one top free agent the Spurs were able to sign? and don't say Derek Anderson..

There has been legit reports that indicated he's interested in playing for the Spurs. Not to mention, he has a son in SA. Who knows? He may not end up coming here. It's just silly how people think he won't come here simply because the Spurs have been rejected by big names too many times before.

[DPG21920]

Also, don't know how many times this has to be said but this is the first time that SA should have legit max money to spend. Most rejection stemmed from the idea that this is a business and Spurs always had less money. Sucks, but true.

[rayray2k8]

Which was my point earlier. For fans to keep their expectations low and just worry about the Spurs being able to resign their own guys. But I was talking about the Spurs being able to steal top free agents from other teams. They never have and unfortunately it'll stay that way. The Spurs name has been thrown around as leverage tbqh and theres no denying that.

[goliath]

Most reports also had Kidd wanting to come here before his wife shot it down.

[ducks]

Yes thank goodness for wife thinking woai was to small

[eDizzle20]

Which was my point earlier. For fans to keep their expectations low and just worry about the Spurs being able to resign their own guys. But I was talking about the Spurs being able to steal top free agents from other teams. They never have and unfortunately it'll stay that way. The Spurs name has been thrown around as leverage tbqh and theres no denying that.

With the Aldridge scenario there's really no leverage name dropping the Spurs since he'll get max money wherever he signs.

[NASpurs]

TOSB Kidd >>>>>>> Fat Shitbag Porker

[Seventyniner]

Also, don't know how many times this has to be said but this is the first time that SA should have legit max money to spend. Most rejection stemmed from the idea that this is a business and Spurs always had less money. Sucks, but true.

Exactly. When people bring up the big FAs that turned the Spurs down like Webber, Kidd, J. O'Neal, they forget that all those guys re-signed with their own teams for significantly more money. If Aldridge is intent on leaving the Blazers, and the Spurs can carve out max cap space for him without gutting the team, the Spurs will have just as much to offer as any other team.

[RD2191]

TOSB Kidd >>>>>>> Fat Shitbag Porker
:lol

[Darius Bieber]

Got the thread up to 18 pages in three days... Let's see how much more it can get to before Aldridge signs with the Mavs/Lakers.

[baseline bum]

It would help those who are to not get their hopes up by being delusional enough to believe a top free agent would sign with the Spurs. Name me one top free agent the Spurs were able to sign? and don't say Derek Anderson..

Kidd was sold but his twat wife didn't want to give up her NY TV gig. Worked out in the end for the Spurs, but they almost had his ass.

[baseline bum]

Also, don't know how many times this has to be said but this is the first time that SA should have legit max money to spend. Most rejection stemmed from the idea that this is a business and Spurs always had less money. Sucks, but true.

They had it in 2001 (hence pursuing Webber and Finley) and 2003 (hence pursuing Kidd and Jermaine O'Neal).

[SpursFanInAustin]

They had it in 2001 (hence pursuing Webber and Finley) and 2003 (hence pursuing Kidd and Jermaine O'Neal).

2001, they stopped pursuing Webber and Finley cause the CBA allowed them to get 7 years for max contract, plus Spurs were having to re-sign D-Rob and DA at the time. D-Rob threatened to go to the Knicks after the Spurs offered him $8 million, and the FO caved in and gave D-Rob 2 yrs $20 million after Spurs fans threatened to revoke their season tickets if they weren't able to retain D-Rob. DA already had his mind made up on Portland so they worked a sign n trade to get Steve Smith aka "HITA"

[Leetonidas]

I would be really surprised if Aldridge took less money from Portland to play on a shittier team with an even worse chucker and a bunch of rookies/nobodies than coming to a team of champions with a top 5 player of all-time and the 23 year old DPOY with one of the GOAT coaches for the same money tbh. He's not going to LA imo

[SpursFanInAustin]

2003, Could have had Kidd, but it worked out since we had 20 yr old Parker and Manu coming off his rookie season to build around for the next decade. Jermaine ONeal didn't want to come to SA cause he was the man in Indiana and was only 24 yrs old at the time and only played for Indy for 2 years at the time and had a core to build around him with Ron Artest and Jamaal Tinsley, AL Harrington, plus Reggie Miller in his twilight. Aldridge already put in 9 yrs in the NBA for one squad.

[baseline bum]

they worked a sign n trade to get Steve Smith aka "HITA"

:lol people still use my nickname for that faggot

How fucked is it he has a ring and Chuck Person doesn't?

[SpursFanInAustin]

:lol people still use my nickname for that faggot

How fucked is it he has a ring and Chuck Person doesn't?

That's why I used it. I knew it would get your attention! Lol

[SpursFanInAustin]

I felt bad for guys like Terry Porter and Antonio McDyess who busted their ass with the Spurs to get a ring but came up short.

[Sean Cagney]

Most reports also had Kidd wanting to come here before his wife shot it down.

I think he really did want to be in SA and was going to sign, good he didn't in the long run.

[Sean Cagney]

2001, they stopped pursuing Webber and Finley cause the CBA allowed them to get 7 years for max contract, plus Spurs were having to re-sign D-Rob and DA at the time. D-Rob threatened to go to the Knicks after the Spurs offered him $8 million, and the FO caved in and gave D-Rob 2 yrs $20 million after Spurs fans threatened to revoke their season tickets if they weren't able to retain D-Rob. DA already had his mind made up on Portland so they worked a sign n trade to get Steve Smith aka "HITA"

Yep, I remember watching a TV set at the gym when it said D ROB interested in the Knicks and shook my head. He was insulted by the Spurs offer of less money and got a good last deal for himself out of it, they were not going to let him walk. I can't blame him but TD is taking a lot less and still at a higher level than D ROB in his last few years and then some, shows you what kind of unselfish guy he is man (One of a kind).

BTW still don't like DA after that one year, dude went about it like a baby with his loyalty crap and he was NEVER the same player after SA.

[Budkin]

It would help those who are to not get their hopes up by being delusional enough to believe a top free agent would sign with the Spurs. Name me one top free agent the Spurs were able to sign? and don't say Derek Anderson..

Michael Finley

[SpursFanInAustin]

Yep, I remember watching a TV set at the gym when it said D ROB interested in the Knicks and shook my head. He was insulted by the Spurs offer of less money and got a good last deal for himself out of it, they were not going to let him walk. I can't blame him but TD is taking a lot less and still at a higher level than D ROB in his last few years and then some, shows you what kind of unselfish guy he is man (One of a kind).

BTW still don't like DA after that one year, dude went about it like a baby with his loyalty crap and he was NEVER the same player after the Juwan Howard flagrant foul in Game 1 of the Semis.

Fify

[Uriel]

:cryNo Penn:cry
I'm not an American, but don't students from the Big Three Ivies look down on the rest of the schools? :lol

[Uriel]

do the spurs have a meeting lined up for july 1? if so, duncan can persuade LMA

The free-agent plan for the Spurs is to quickly agree on a five-year max deal with Leonard – “It will be a short conversation,” one person with knowledge of the dynamics said – and empower Leonard to join Duncan in an all-out recruitment of All-Star free agent LaMarcus Aldridge, league sources told CBSSports.com.

[ElNono]

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[SpursFanInAustin]

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Maybe in Portland's system where players have free will to put up any shot they want as opposed to a more disciplined system in SA.

[NASpurs]

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Pop's furiously jerking off to those 3 pt numbers.

[Ice009]

Yep, I remember watching a TV set at the gym when it said D ROB interested in the Knicks and shook my head. He was insulted by the Spurs offer of less money and got a good last deal for himself out of it, they were not going to let him walk. I can't blame him but TD is taking a lot less and still at a higher level than D ROB in his last few years and then some, shows you what kind of unselfish guy he is man (One of a kind).

BTW still don't like DA after that one year, dude went about it like a baby with his loyalty crap and he was NEVER the same player after SA.

I liked DA because it seemed that he actually liked the Spurs and wanted to play for us when he was a free agent. After he joined the team, I recall him saying that he watched the Spurs and he thought the main thing that they were lacking was a penetrator and that he thought he could be a great fit here. I liked that he looked at it from a Basketball standpoint and a fit standpoint, I thought that was refreshing to see someone actually looking at the team purely from a Basketball stance.

He completely lost me though after scoring 2 points or whatever it was in the games he played in the Lakers series and then asking for a huge contract straight after. That didn't sit well with me at all. I know that Lakers team was great and that he had a separated shoulder, but I always wonder how that series would have went it he was healthy and able to play in those first two games at home that were close. He could have made a difference and changed the whole series if it wasn't for that asshole Juwan Howard.

Anyone know how bad his shoulder was and if he should have even been playing? Did he try and gut it out just to play those two games?

Also, with the Robinson thing, how much money did they offer him? I always thought their first offer was 1 million dollars or something ridiculously low like that. I either got the wrong info or my memory was/is off. A poster above mentioned 8 million. Was that the first offer? The low ball offer? If so, my opinion has actually changed. I think that was a decent offer if in conjunction they were able to get Webber or another significant free agent by offering him that much. I do remember him being upset and talking about going to the Knicks. I also remember the fans were pissed about possibly losing him and then putting pressure on the front office to up the offer. For some reason though, I'm just remembering the offer being very low, a lot lower than 8 million.

[Uriel]

Pop's furiously jerking off to those 3 pt numbers.That imagery. :lmao

[Silver&Black]

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Doesn't look too bad. Gonna have to get a new # though...

[SpurPadre]

:lol people still use my nickname for that faggot

How fucked is it he has a ring and Chuck Person doesn't?

Not nearly as fucked up as Bonner and Ayres having rings unlike HOFs like Ewing, Barkley, Stockton, and Malone...Well Fuck Malone and Barkley, actually, but still.

[wildchild]

Maybe in Portland's system where players have free will to put up any shot they want as opposed to a more disciplined system in SA.

Maybe Aldridge wants to know if Pop will maintain his FGA/minutes per game, before signing...

You can't take 20 shots like he did in regular season and expect good shot selection in every one, with that usage % and the same FGA per game I don't think LMA can have better FG% even under Spurs system.

[Ice009]

Michael Finley

Thanks for bringing this up. I hate it when people don't bring this up, or use it as an example for big name free agent signings not working out. That was pretty much one of the only seasons I was happy with the free agent signings that the Spurs made after winning the Championship the year before. If only Tony Massenburg could have come back, then I would have been 100% satisfied and happy with that off-season.

I always want the Spurs to reload after a Championship and I thought they had a great off-season there. Some people say that it was a failure and it didn't work out, but I disagree completely. As far as I'm concerned, that off season was a success and that team was the best team in the NBA. Definitely should have won the Championship and I'm still pissed about it anytime I see footage of Miami celebrating.

There's so many things that fucked the Spurs over. Pop going small, Pop playing Van Exel over Beno when Van Exel clearly didn't have it, the horrendous officiating in the Dallas series in the 4th quarters of games 3 and 4 on the road with critical bad calls that fouled Tim and Manu out when they were both dominating the quarter, Tim having plantar fasciitis (playing through it and still playing well), Manu's foul etc. That team was definitely the best in the NBA that year and they should have won it. That is a definite championship that was left on the table IMO.

[Uriel]

Only 2 more days until this dream becomes a reality. :hungry:

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[Sean Cagney]

I liked DA because it seemed that he actually liked the Spurs and wanted to play for us when he was a free agent. After he joined the team, I recall him saying that he watched the Spurs and he thought the main thing that they were lacking was a penetrator and that he thought he could be a great fit here. I liked that he looked at it from a Basketball standpoint and a fit standpoint, I thought that was refreshing to see someone actually looking at the team purely from a Basketball stance.

He completely lost me though after scoring 2 points or whatever it was in the games he played in the Lakers series and then asking for a huge contract straight after. That didn't sit well with me at all. I know that Lakers team was great and that he had a separated shoulder, but I always wonder how that series would have went it he was healthy and able to play in those first two games at home that were close. He could have made a difference and changed the whole series if it wasn't for that asshole Juwan Howard.

Anyone know how bad his shoulder was and if he should have even been playing? Did he try and gut it out just to play those two games?

Also, with the Robinson thing, how much money did they offer him? I always thought their first offer was 1 million dollars or something ridiculously low like that. I either got the wrong info or my memory was/is off. A poster above mentioned 8 million. Was that the first offer? The low ball offer? If so, my opinion has actually changed. I think that was a decent offer if in conjunction they were able to get Webber or another significant free agent by offering him that much. I do remember him being upset and talking about going to the Knicks. I also remember the fans were pissed about possibly losing him and then putting pressure on the front office to up the offer. For some reason though, I'm just remembering the offer being very low, a lot lower than 8 million.
The way LA was playing those playoffs I doubt the Spurs beat them, although they might have won 2 games in that series if he were healthy? The last two games forget it they were a blowout as was game #1 if I remember correct? That game was not really close at all after the first half, LA took over and killed the Spurs in the 2nd half. LA was on a roll that year, it was their year bar none (I think the Spurs win game 2 though, another possible but doubtful).

I don't know what they offered D ROB? I think it was an okay deal from what I saw back then but he refused it and was insulted by it so he got a good deal from the Spurs after that and stayed. Remember the cap was lower then so his salary was about in the range of 12 mill or so in today's terms, being on his last legs and all he was PAID. I am not saying they should have let their legend walk but man he surely was not taking a TD discount and playing for basically pennies for his ability, plus TD is at a wayyyyyyyy higher level than D ROB his last two years. TD is special, you won't get another one.

[ElNono]

Only 2 more days until this dream becomes a reality. :hungry:

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Might be a little longer... IIRC, players can't sign until July 10, which I suppose gives them a little more drama time to toy with teams...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Might be a little longer... IIRC, players can't sign until July 10, which I suppose gives them a little more drama time to toy with teams...

There's also no certainty they're meeting on the first day, and even then, the Spurs will have to work some Riley-esque magic through trades to sign him and retain Green, which may take awhile.

[Sean Cagney]

Thanks for bringing this up. I hate it when people don't bring this up, or use it as an example for big name free agent signings not working out. That was pretty much one of the only seasons I was happy with the free agent signings that the Spurs made after winning the Championship the year before. If only Tony Massenburg could have come back, then I would have been 100% satisfied and happy with that off-season.

I always want the Spurs to reload after a Championship and I thought they had a great off-season there. Some people say that it was a failure and it didn't work out, but I disagree completely. As far as I'm concerned, that off season was a success and that team was the best team in the NBA. Definitely should have won the Championship and I'm still pissed about it anytime I see footage of Miami celebrating.

There's so many things that fucked the Spurs over. Pop going small, Pop playing Van Exel over Beno when Van Exel clearly didn't have it, the horrendous officiating in the Dallas series in the 4th quarters of games 3 and 4 on the road with critical bad calls that fouled Tim and Manu out when they were both dominating the quarter, Tim having plantar fasciitis (playing through it and still playing well), Manu's foul etc. That team was definitely the best in the NBA that year and they should have won it. That is a definite championship that was left on the table IMO.
I never make excuses or blame the refs so much, but that series against Dallas to this day still pisses me off because the calls were insane! I remember Charles after game 3 or 4 saying NBA REFS SUCK, that still sticks out to me to this day. That was a horribly called series man, Mavs fans to this day have some nerve complaining over the finals when they got gifted a game or two that series and conveniently forget about that series there for some reason? They should have never been in the finals to get cheated, period. BTW to me that was Tims best series ever, I think he even said it was the best series he played? He put up 33 or so PPG and shot over 56%, insane! That on a bad foot. That is the only title that bothers me in which should have been (More so than 013 believe it or not), that was their threepeat there, period.

[BatManu20]

Any takers?


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[BatManu20]

:lol majority of Spurfan are way too confident about signing Aldridge right now

[Robz4000]

:lol majority of Spurfan are way too confident about signing Aldridge right now

Eh, they have a right to. With all the talk around it there's definitely something there as opposed to past FA pursuits. If he signs cool, if not the Spurs hopefully resign all the key cogs and make another go of it. My only concern is if they get LMA and Green leaves. Don't think that team can truly contend.

[hooperflash]

Doesn't look too bad. Gonna have to get a new # though...

23.

[Silver&Black]

My only concern is if they get LMA and Green leaves. Don't think that team can truly contend.

:cry Would be the end of "WingStop" :cry

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[Robz4000]

:cry Would be the end of "WingStop" :cry

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Oh fuck, forgot about det. :cry Wingstop must remain open for business :cry

[Silver&Black]

Oh fuck, forgot about det. :cry Wingstop must remain open for business :cry

At all costs Robz....at all costs.

[HI-FI]

Eh, they have a right to. With all the talk around it there's definitely something there as opposed to past FA pursuits. If he signs cool, if not the Spurs hopefully resign all the key cogs and make another go of it. My only concern is if they get LMA and Green leaves. Don't think that team can truly contend.
this.

[BatManu20]

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[hater]

Word on the Streets of Envigado Medellin Is That nigga Is going to da Lakers

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I see a lot of talk about the Spurs not trading Splitter during the draft. OF COURSE THEY WEREN'T. As I said a month ago, if they trade Splitter, it will be directly to Portland in a Sign and Trade. This way the Spurs can have the Bird Rights to LMA and still be able to retain Green and all the rest of their FA (w/ bird rights) at any price.

Portland would love to have Splitter as he would perfectly compliment Lillard's pnr game as Lopez is a horrible finisher around the rim. Splitter is an upgrade for the offensive and defensive end over Lopez and he would probably cheaper to have at this point.

IMO, if the Spurs land LMA it will be trading Splitter directly to Portland. Possibly throw in Cojo (via Sign and Trade) or some other player to make the salaries work. Portland will be giving up more salary than taking on, so they probably get a Trade exception as well for this trade.

[spurspokesman]

There has been legit reports that indicated he's interested in playing for the Spurs. Not to mention, he has a son in SA. Who knows? He may not end up coming here. It's just silly how people think he won't come here simply because the Spurs have been rejected by big names too many times before.
+1. After striking out so much you eventually hit something.

[baseline bum]

Not nearly as fucked up as Bonner and Ayres having rings unlike HOFs like Ewing, Barkley, Stockton, and Malone...Well Fuck Malone and Barkley, actually, but still.

Ewing had his chance, and decided to shoot 36% against a pretty average Rockets team. Sucks for Stockton though, he was trying to drag Malone kicking and screaming to a ring in 98 with that three he hit to take a three point lead with 41 seconds left in Game 6. And then Warm Karl got stripped on the block and ended up laying on the floor as Jordan took away Stockton's title. :lol

[exstatic]

I see a lot of talk about the Spurs not trading Splitter during the draft. OF COURSE THEY WEREN'T. As I said a month ago, if they trade Splitter, it will be directly to Portland in a Sign and Trade. This way the Spurs can have the Bird Rights to LMA and still be able to retain Green and all the rest of their FA (w/ bird rights) at any price.

Portland would love to have Splitter as he would perfectly compliment Lillard's pnr game as Lopez is a horrible finisher around the rim. Splitter is an upgrade for the offensive and defensive end over Lopez and he would probably cheaper to have at this point.

IMO, if the Spurs land LMA it will be trading Splitter directly to Portland. Possibly throw in Cojo (via Sign and Trade) or some other player to make the salaries work. Portland will be giving up more salary than taking on, so they probably get a Trade exception as well for this trade.

For the latest CBA, the NBA further rigged the game for the "home" team, so that free agents stay put. Portland can S&T him, and he will get the higher raise rate, but a S&T costs the player that extra year that he can get "at home".

[spurspokesman]

I felt bad for guys like Terry Porter and Antonio McDyess who busted their ass with the Spurs to get a ring but came up short.

My thoughts also. I really wanted one for Dice.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Not sure if it affects their plan at all, but the Mavs just drafted Justin Anderson, who's pretty much a Danny Green clone.

Impossible. Danny Green is irreplaceable at any price.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

For the latest CBA, the NBA further rigged the game for the "home" team, so that free agents stay put. Portland can S&T him, and he will get the higher raise rate, but a S&T costs the player that extra year that he can get "at home".

But I think he is going to Sign and Trade on a three year deal w/ a player option after the first. This would allow LMA to opt out and resign with the Spurs for more in 2016 when the CAP increases by 20 mil.

I don't think LMA is thinking Long term with this first contract. Same with Love and many other FA. They are looking for only two year-deals with a PO after the 1st. LMA on paper needs to be a 3 year deal, but it essentially would only be a 1 year deal.

Most teams would never agree with a deal that allowed for a player option after the 1st year, but because of the 2016 cap situation, most teams are going to obliged these players in this coming FA.

Teams seemed to really want Splitter. Don't blamed them. Like I said, he is a top 3 Big man defender in this league when he is healthy. It would hurt losing Splitter, but the Spurs need more offense at this point, with TP decline (due to age) and Duncan not sticking around for ever.

Spurs drafting two Centers in this draft essentially tells you they are looking for someone to replace Splitter in the future.

[look_at_g_shred]

Only 2 more days until this dream becomes a reality. :hungry:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEMcjxbUMAAtvQQ.jpg
Fap fap fap (no homo)

[look_at_g_shred]

If he really wants to win, which it seems like he does, I'm sure he's willing to work with the Spurs when they say look bro, we could give you the money your looking for but the team is gonna essentially be the trailblazers, where as if you sacrifice a few million the first year, we'll have all the peices intact to compete for a championship.

[look_at_g_shred]

Cuz if the dude is really aiming for the money, isn't he better off just staying in POR? They're the only team who can offer him the most correct?

[K...]

Cuz if the dude is really aiming for the money, isn't he better off just staying in POR? They're the only team who can offer him the most correct?

True except for the cap rise. If there were no cap rise, yes. But if he wants a short term contract to time free agency the blazers advantage disappears

[look_at_g_shred]

True except for the cap rise. If there were no cap rise, yes. But if he wants a short term contract to time free agency the blazers advantage disappears
If that's the case, then why doesn't he just sign one more year with POR and wait for FA next summer?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

If that's the case, then why doesn't he just sign one more year with POR and wait for FA next summer?

Because you can tell he doesn't like the fact that their GM said they wanted to build the team around Lillard. Plus his son is starting school. Before, he could travel whenever to visit his father. Now, LMA won't be able to see only on vacation days and during the Summer.

LMA best scenario if HE WANTS TO LEAVE PORTLAND, is to be S&T to another team. Probably will be a 4 year deal just for security reason, but with a player option after the first.

Going to Texas also means he makes more money than even staying in Portland due to the State Income situation.

If you look at all the trade able assets of the Texas teams (that aren't franchise players), Splitter is by far the best option for Portland as he is an elite defender and he is a top 5 player in the PnR offensive efficiency, something that would compliment Lillard. There is a reason Portland wanted Splitter a few years ago as well.

If the Spurs get LMA, I would about 90% positive at this point that it will be for a S&T involving Splitter.

[look_at_g_shred]

Because you can tell he doesn't like the fact that their GM said they wanted to build the team around Lillard. Plus his son is starting school. Before, he could travel whenever to visit his father. Now, LMA won't be able to see only on vacation days and during the Summer.

LMA best scenario if HE WANTS TO LEAVE PORTLAND, is to be S&T to another team. Probably will be a 4 year deal just for security reason, but with a player option after the first.

Going to Texas also means he makes more money than even staying in Portland due to the State Income situation.

If you look at all the trade able assets of the Texas teams (that aren't franchise players), Splitter is by far the best option for Portland as he is an elite defender and he is a top 5 player in the PnR offensive efficiency, something that would compliment Lillard. There is a reason Portland wanted Splitter a few years ago as well.

If the Spurs get LMA, I would about 90% positive at this point that it will be for a S&T involving Splitter.
Yeah I remember the Blazers being one of the teams who were trying to pry splitter away a couple years ago..makes sense for the S&T with Portland as they've always coveted him...

[cd021]

Because you can tell he doesn't like the fact that their GM said they wanted to build the team around Lillard. Plus his son is starting school. Before, he could travel whenever to visit his father. Now, LMA won't be able to see only on vacation days and during the Summer.

LMA best scenario if HE WANTS TO LEAVE PORTLAND, is to be S&T to another team. Probably will be a 4 year deal just for security reason, but with a player option after the first.

Going to Texas also means he makes more money than even staying in Portland due to the State Income situation.

If you look at all the trade able assets of the Texas teams (that aren't franchise players), Splitter is by far the best option for Portland as he is an elite defender and he is a top 5 player in the PnR offensive efficiency, something that would compliment Lillard. There is a reason Portland wanted Splitter a few years ago as well.

If the Spurs get LMA, I would about 90% positive at this point that it will be for a S&T involving Splitter.

to add on Oregans state tax is 11% on salaries over $250,00. If L.A were to make $18,500,000 next season, it would actually be $16,465,000. In Texas, there isn't any so he'd be saving more than two million dollars next year.

An S&T is probably the best bet, With Mills included along with Splitter and possibly a first rounder (not as big of a deal with players like LJC, Bertans, and Milutinov possibly joining the Spurs after next season) . Spurs won't have to gut their roster because they can use bird rights to resign Leonard, Green, Cojo, & Baynes. They could also bring back Beli with the MLE and bring over a Euro like Hanga with the LLE and Livio Jean Charles ( who is still bound to the rookie scale)

[Chinook]

I see a lot of talk about the Spurs not trading Splitter during the draft. OF COURSE THEY WEREN'T. As I said a month ago, if they trade Splitter, it will be directly to Portland in a Sign and Trade. This way the Spurs can have the Bird Rights to LMA and still be able to retain Green and all the rest of their FA (w/ bird rights) at any price

Let's just be clear; most of this reasoning is incorrect. First, sign-and-trading for Aldridge does NOT give the Spurs Bird rights or any other privilege over signing him outright. Second, trading Splitter alone for Aldridge is useless. The Spurs would still need to use cap space to take on LMA, so there'd be no difference between trading Splitter to Portland and trading Splitter somewhere else and just not taking back salary. Third, trading Splitter for a pick during the draft is just better asset management, provided they got LMA in both cases. That's why people were hoping it was going to happen.

This isn't the best board anymore, but we're getting to the point where most posters understand the different strategies, and their costs and benefits. If people aren't talking about something by now, it's probably because that idea's been refuted. It's gonna be hard to come at this from a fresh angle.

[Poolboy5623]

Portland was interested in splitter when they were contending. ...why would they want him and his contract, in a rebuild?

[Chinook]

An S&T is probably the best bet, With Mills included along with Splitter and possibly a first rounder (not as big of a deal with players like LJC, Bertans, and Milutinov possibly joining the Spurs after next season) . Spurs won't have to gut their roster because they can use bird rights to resign Leonard, Green, Cojo, & Baynes. They could also bring back Beli with the MLE and bring over a Euro like Hanga with the LLE and Livio Jean Charles ( who is still bound to the rookie scale)

There's actually no reason to do this, as the Spurs have Beli's early Bird rights. They can give Beli up to the MLE (but not actually using up that exception) and with bigger raises. They could bring Beli back with that and then use the MLE to sign a center.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Spurs shouldn't trade Mills. Just his character alone does wonders for this team. Spurs will probably looked to another team to fill the salaries gap. Trading mills wouldn't even do it as the total salary given up needs to be 13mil on the Spurs part.

Spurs will probably look to another team with a 5mil player they want to trade to send to Portland. Spurs will probably give both Portland and the other team future picks to make the trade work. Both picks will probably be lottery protected 1st rounders. But considering the Spurs more than likely won't be lottery w/ LMA even after Duncan retires for the foreseeable future, giving up those picks is low risk for the Spurs.

A good team to make this happen would be the Timberwolves and Bennett. With Batum gone, maybe Portland would like to take a flyer on this guy to see if he can pan out. They can give Minny a lottery pick as well. Timberwolves would be ecstatic if they could get two 1st rounders for Bennett, even if they are lottery protected to some degree.

[look_at_g_shred]

There's actually no reason to do this, as the Spurs have Beli's early Bird rights. They can give Beli up to the MLE (but not actually using up that exception) and with bigger raises. They could bring Beli back with that and then use the MLE to sign a center.
Out of all the teams in the mix for LMA, who do you think realistically has the best offer?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Portland was interested in splitter when they were contending. ...why would they want him and his contract, in a rebuild?

8.2 mil salary for Splitter at this point is A STEAL. They WANT to REBUILD around LILLARD. Why not start with one of the best PnR centers in the league that would fit your offensive perfectly.

Any GM would.

[Chinook]

Spurs shouldn't trade Mills. Just his character alone does wonders for this team. Spurs will probably looked to another team to fill the salaries gap. Trading mills wouldn't even do it as the total salary given up needs to be 13mil on the Spurs part.

Spurs will probably look to another team with a 5mil player they want to trade to send to Portland. Spurs will probably give both Portland and the other team future picks to make the trade work. Both picks will probably be lottery protected 1st rounders. But considering the Spurs more than likely won't be lottery w/ LMA even after Duncan retires for the foreseeable future, giving up those picks is low risk for the Spurs.

A good team to make this happen would be the Timberwolves and Bennett. With Batum gone, maybe Portland would like to take a flyer on this guy to see if he can pan out. They can give Minny a lottery pick as well. Timberwolves would be ecstatic if they could get two 1st rounders for Bennett, even if they are lottery protected to some degree.

Most of what you said actually doesn't make sense. But the bolded part is what I'll address. Splitter and Mills make $12 Million together, and Reggie Williams has a non-guaranteed contract worth a bit over a million. So the Spurs can send back about $13.2 Million using those three guys, which means LMA can sign a deal starting at $18.3. Not the full max, but definitely close enough.

[bklynspursfan]

Spurs shouldn't trade Mills. Just his character alone does wonders for this team. Spurs will probably looked to another team to fill the salaries gap. Trading mills wouldn't even do it as the total salary given up needs to be 13mil on the Spurs part.

Spurs will probably look to another team with a 5mil player they want to trade to send to Portland. Spurs will probably give both Portland and the other team future picks to make the trade work. Both picks will probably be lottery protected 1st rounders. But considering the Spurs more than likely won't be lottery w/ LMA even after Duncan retires for the foreseeable future, giving up those picks is low risk for the Spurs.

A good team to make this happen would be the Timberwolves and Bennett. With Batum gone, maybe Portland would like to take a flyer on this guy to see if he can pan out. They can give Minny a lottery pick as well. Timberwolves would be ecstatic if they could get two 1st rounders for Bennett, even if they are lottery protected to some degree.


Yea I agree on Mills. I would work hard to make sure he stays a Spur.

[tav1]

I wonder if James Borrego's presence and market conditions could allow Spurs to use part of MLE on Kyle O'Quinn?

After a max free agent (Aldridge) and Danny Green, both KJ McDaniels and Kyle O'Quinn rate highly on my personal wish list.

Parker/Joseph/League Minimum
Green/McDaniels/Beli
Leonard/Anderson/LJC or empty
Aldridge/Diaw/O'Quinn
Duncan/Baynes/Lalanne or vet min

[Chinook]

Out of all the teams in the mix for LMA, who do you think realistically has the best offer?

Depends on how the potential trades go. If Portland will agree to a S&T, the Spurs win hand's down. If they agree to a Houston S&T, then the Rockets may have it. If Portland gets a maxish player to join them, then they may have it. But with straight cap space, the Spurs probably still win.

[look_at_g_shred]

Mills just provides too much to the team!!

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Let's just be clear; most of this reasoning is incorrect. First, sign-and-trading for Aldridge does NOT give the Spurs Bird rights or any other privilege over signing him outright. Second, trading Splitter alone for Aldridge is useless. The Spurs would still need to use cap space to take on LMA, so there'd be no difference between trading Splitter to Portland and trading Splitter somewhere else and just not taking back salary. Third, trading Splitter for a pick during the draft is just better asset management, provided they got LMA in both cases. That's why people were hoping it was going to happen.

This isn't the best board anymore, but we're getting to the point where most posters understand the different strategies, and their costs and benefits. If people aren't talking about something by now, it's probably because that idea's been refuted. It's gonna be hard to come at this from a fresh angle.

Next year it does. And yes, Sign and Trade does give the Spurs his Bird Rights WHICH MEANS, the Spurs can resign their OWN players over the cap. Only Portland can sign LMA and then trade his rights to a team, which is what you are suggesting and I know.

Spurs can involve a 3RD TEAM to make the Salaries work. So trading Splitter, involving a 3rd team, getting LMA bird rights so the Spurs can resign Green, Duncan, Manu, etc over the cap this year and if they aren't over the Tax line or with, they still will have the BAE and MLE to use.

Signing LMA outright (after trading Splitter to some other team) means they won't have the MLE or BAE to use period this season. And that would hit the Spurs hard if they lose Green and Beli to free agency.

[ElNono]

Why do people keep saying "if he wants to win, he should pick the Spurs", tbh? The Spurs long term outlook is pretty bleak at the moment, IMO, you have a ball dominant PG (something LMA is already running away from) on the wrong side of 30, injury prone and out of shape to put it mildly locked up at a contract that limits flexibility, two aged veterans that make up the backbone of the team close to retirement, Green might walk, picked nobody that matters on the draft, a FO that's generally reluctant to make big trades... is Pop gonna stick around for the next 5-6 years? I think there's a lot of questions...

[Chinook]

Next year it does. And yes, Sign and Trade does give the Spurs his Bird Rights WHICH MEANS, the Spurs can resign their OWN players over the cap.

No, it doesn't. If the Spurs S&T Aldridge on a 1+1 deal, and LMA opts out, the Spurs don't have the Bird rights to re-sign him. Hell, if Portland just straight re-signs LMA to a 1+1 and then trades him to the Spurs later, then the Spurs STILL wouldn't have his Bird rights.


Spurs can involve a 3RD TEAM to make the Salaries work.

No, they can't. The Spurs can't get Aldridge by trading Splitter to the Blazers and getting a third team to trade a guy like Bennett to Portland as well. It doesn't work that way. The Spurs have to send out enough salary to match; Portland does NOT have to receive enough. That's why a four-team trade where Splitter and Mills go else where and the Spurs get picks and LMA would work even though Portland would take back no salary.


Signing LMA outright (after trading Splitter to some other team) means they won't have the MLE or BAE to use period this season. And that would hit the Spurs hard if they lose Green and Beli to free agency.

Besides what I said above, the Spurs would keep Green's Bird rights in this scenario and would retain the room exception. A cheap sign-and-trade would definitely be ideal, but they can certainly field a good team with just cap space.

Again, though, it's really hard not come at this from some angle no one's ever thought of before. That's not a slight against you. It's just a reality due to how long we've all been obsessing over this.

[spurraider21]

so Chinook if LMA was to happen, a S&T is the only realistic scenario where we can both get LMA and retain Green?

[DPG21920]

so Chinook if LMA was to happen, a S&T is the only realistic scenario where we can both get LMA and retain Green?

Chinook is currently out of office with limited access to voicemail & email. I am his back up. The answer is no. It's not really any more likely one way or the other with regards to Green.

The only difference in a S&T vs cap space is in a S&T you can have less cap space and get to the 18M needed for LMA a little easier since you can take back more money in a S&T than you send out.

[DPG21920]

Why do people keep saying "if he wants to win, he should pick the Spurs", tbh? The Spurs long term outlook is pretty bleak at the moment, IMO, you have a ball dominant PG (something LMA is already running away from) on the wrong side of 30, injury prone and out of shape to put it mildly locked up at a contract that limits flexibility, two aged veterans that make up the backbone of the team close to retirement, Green might walk, picked nobody that matters on the draft, a FO that's generally reluctant to make big trades... is Pop gonna stick around for the next 5-6 years? I think there's a lot of questions...

Sons, despite that there are still less questions surrounding the Spurs than most + they have a top 3 attractive young player to pair with. Plus a FO that has proven to be amazing.

[spurraider21]

Chinook is currently out of office with limited access to voicemail & email. I am his back up. The answer is no. It's not really any more likely one way or the other with regards to Green.

The only difference in a S&T vs cap space is in a S&T you can have less cap space and get to the 18M needed for LMA a little easier since you can take back more money in a S&T than you send out.
i see. also with cap space, you'd have to sign LMA first while Green/Kawhi are still on their cap holds and not their actual new deals

if green signed an offer sheet elsewhere in the meantime, would his cap hold equal that offer sheet or still just the QO

[DPG21920]

Unfortunately Green can't sign an offer sheet. He's unrestricted so if he signs anything, he's gone.

[Chinook]

so Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) if LMA was to happen, a S&T is the only realistic scenario where we can both get LMA and retain Green?

DPG got it. S&T allows the Spurs to keep Joseph, Baynes and the MLE. Green is accounted for is almost every scenario.

[Chinook]

i see. also with cap space, you'd have to sign LMA first while Green/Kawhi are still on their cap holds and not their actual new deals

if green signed an offer sheet elsewhere in the meantime, would his cap hold equal that offer sheet or still just the QO

Again, DPG answered. If you meant Leonard instead of Green by the off chance, then the cap hold increases to the amount of the first year in the offer sheet for those three days. However, that's not a big deal, since offer sheets can't be signed until after the moratorium, and the Spurs should have everything sorted by then.

[spurraider21]

Unfortunately Green can't sign an offer sheet. He's unrestricted so if he signs anything, he's gone.
yeah that went over my head, thanks for correcting :tu

[Hoops Czar]

Why do people keep saying "if he wants to win, he should pick the Spurs", tbh? The Spurs long term outlook is pretty bleak at the moment, IMO, you have a ball dominant PG (something LMA is already running away from) on the wrong side of 30, injury prone and out of shape to put it mildly locked up at a contract that limits flexibility, two aged veterans that make up the backbone of the team close to retirement, Green might walk, picked nobody that matters on the draft, a FO that's generally reluctant to make big trades... is Pop gonna stick around for the next 5-6 years? I think there's a lot of questions...

This post is underrated.

[DPG21920]

So the Spurs have a better 2 year window to win than all but maybe 2-3 other teams, then after that will have one of the top young players to build around plus a ton of flexability. I'd say that's appealing and conducive to winning. Nothing's guaranteed but I can't think of any team that has less questions long or short term.

[spurraider21]

Also, if he's interested in extending his career/effectiveness, the Spurs would be the best spot to do so. leonard as a running mate should be appealing because he isn't ball/spotlight dominant

[DPG21920]

Plus if DG stays, KL/DG are proven, young pieces that allow you to build a flexible contender. The core would be there.

[TheGreatYacht]

NBA Lockdown's latest podcast is worth a listen. Marc Stein basically confirms that all signs lead to Aldridge picking the Spurs. The Mavs chasing Deandre Jordan basically confirms it as well.

Just give it time IMO. PATFO didn't draft a guy similar to Tiago's skill set for no reason, and I'm sure they have a trading partner lined up when it's time.

[Poolboy5623]

8.2 mil salary for Splitter at this point is A STEAL. They WANT to REBUILD around LILLARD. Why not start with one of the best PnR centers in the league that would fit your offensive perfectly.

Any GM would.

Paying 8.2 for an injury riddled center, is not a steal...

[Mugen]

There's going to be some salty ass nigs in this thread in about a week tbh :lol


:corn:

[DPG21920]

Salty from the tears of joy streaming down their faces tbh.

[SpursFan86]

What are the chances we keep Green AND Mills, + land LMA? Basically nonexistent?

[DPG21920]

Pretty much ^

[spurraider21]

i'm ok with shipping off Mills. a fan favorite, obviously, but if :lol if he's in the way of bringing Aldridge on board

[SpursFan86]

Pretty much ^

Even if Manu retires?

[look_at_g_shred]

Not sure which situation was more probable.. last year's gasol fiasco or this year's LMA saga

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

No, it doesn't. If the Spurs S&T Aldridge on a 1+1 deal, and LMA opts out, the Spurs don't have the Bird rights to re-sign him. Hell, if Portland just straight re-signs LMA to a 1+1 and then trades him to the Spurs later, then the Spurs STILL wouldn't have his Bird rights.



No, they can't. The Spurs can't get Aldridge by trading Splitter to the Blazers and getting a third team to trade a guy like Bennett to Portland as well. It doesn't work that way. The Spurs have to send out enough salary to match; Portland does NOT have to receive enough. That's why a four-team trade where Splitter and Mills go else where and the Spurs get picks and LMA would work even though Portland would take back no salary.



Besides what I said above, the Spurs would keep Green's Bird rights in this scenario and would retain the room exception. A cheap sign-and-trade would definitely be ideal, but they can certainly field a good team with just cap space.

Again, though, it's really hard not come at this from some angle no one's ever thought of before. That's not a slight against you. It's just a reality due to how long we've all been obsessing over this.

Spurs have Green right's regardless of what happens with LMA. But if the Spurs sign LMA with Cap Space and Green just walks, the Spurs won't have the MLE or BAE to resign a replacement. They would be looking for Minimum level player or best case a Vet minimum.

I see what your are saying about the salaries. It's possible I guess the Spurs could convince Beli or Joseph to resign and be included to the trade to Portland as well. Because I wouldn't want the Spurs to lose Mills in that scenario. Cojo would fit w/ Portland as Blake just exercised his PO. He would be the Spurs 3rd PG at this point and going to Portland, he would get more playing time.

But the fact the Spurs didn't trade Splitter for a pick, which would have been the best option to clear cap space (as you mentioned), has me believing that the plan on including Splitter in a S&T for LMA, just saying.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Paying 8.2 for an injury riddled center, is not a steal...

What about 14.5 mil for a injure riddled PG.

[spurraider21]

Not sure which situation was more probable.. last year's gasol fiasco or this year's LMA saga
gasol might have been more probable. the spurs were his top MLE choice, but the bulls became the obvious pick once they amnestied boozer, which the owner was really reluctant to do at first

[Chinook]

Spurs have Green right's regardless of what happens with LMA. But if the Spurs sign LMA with Cap Space and Green just walks, the Spurs won't have the MLE or BAE to resign a replacement. They would be looking for Minimum level player or best case a Vet minimum.

They'd have a Green-sized amount of cap space and the room exception.


But the fact the Spurs didn't trade Splitter for a pick, which would have been the best option to clear cap space (as you mentioned), has me believing that the plan on including Splitter in a S&T for LMA, just saying.

Or that the Spurs don't want to dump Splitter before making sure LMA flies from the bush into their hands. I don't think they consider signing-and-trading Tiago to Portland unless as part of a trade that keeps them over the cap or unless Splitter specifically asks to be traded to Portland. I think they'd honor Tiago's wishes over getting a pick, but they aren't going to forgo a pick to pay Portland value they don't have to.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Chinook is currently out of office with limited access to voicemail & email. I am his back up. The answer is no. It's not really any more likely one way or the other with regards to Green.

The only difference in a S&T vs cap space is in a S&T you can have less cap space and get to the 18M needed for LMA a little easier since you can take back more money in a S&T than you send out.

Keeping the MLE and BAE is also a key difference.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

They'd have a Green-sized amount of cap space and the room exception.



Or that the Spurs don't want to dump Splitter before making sure LMA flies from the bush into their hands. I don't think they consider signing-and-trading Tiago to Portland unless as part of a trade that keeps them over the cap or unless Splitter specifically asks to be traded to Portland. I think they'd honor Tiago's wishes over getting a pick, but they aren't going to forgo a pick to pay Portland value they don't have to.

If they sign LMA using cap space and Green walks, they will only have the ability to sign minimum contracts and the BAE. That's not a lot to work with to replace Green, especially if Beli gets a huge offer from another team. It would almost force the Spurs to match unless they can get someone comparable for a vastly reduced price.

[Chinook]

If they sign LMA using cap space and Green walks, they will only have the ability to sign minimum contracts and the BAE. That's not a lot to work with to replace Green, especially if Beli gets a huge offer from another team. It would almost force the Spurs to match unless they can get someone comparable for a vastly reduced price.

If you're going to switch gears and say if the Spurs sign LMA without trading Splitter or anyone else, that's true. But none of the above scenarios assumed that. If they trade Splitter, then the Spurs would have a Green-sized amount of cap space. They would NOT have the BAE.

Obviously, the Spurs could trade Splitter, Diaw or Mills to try to get a starting two-guard, though that is significantly more easily said than done.

[Chinook]

Keeping the MLE and BAE is also a key difference.

No. That's only true if you can match salaries. S&Ting Splitter for Aldridge alone doesn't preserve exceptions.

[ElNono]

Sons, despite that there are still less questions surrounding the Spurs than most + they have a top 3 attractive young player to pair with. Plus a FO that has proven to be amazing.


So the Spurs have a better 2 year window to win than all but maybe 2-3 other teams, then after that will have one of the top young players to build around plus a ton of flexability. I'd say that's appealing and conducive to winning. Nothing's guaranteed but I can't think of any team that has less questions long or short term.


Also, if he's interested in extending his career/effectiveness, the Spurs would be the best spot to do so. leonard as a running mate should be appealing because he isn't ball/spotlight dominant

There's no doubt that if what he wants is stability, then the Spurs are probably the best destination for him. Stability and winning not always go hand in hand though.

Frankly, a lot of the FO 'awesomeness' comes directly from Tim, tbh... from still wanting to be coached, to taking paycuts for the benefit of the team, to having an elite HoF player like him makes it much easier to make do with subpar talent.

I think the FO will be heavily tested in the upcoming years once TD hangs them up, that's why I'm saying there's a lot of questions looming, especially when you have to commit to a team for the next 5-6 years.

[ElNono]

Plus if DG stays, KL/DG are proven, young pieces that allow you to build a flexible contender. The core would be there.

I agree with this, but it's complicated for the Spurs to retain everyone's services. I suspect DG will get offered stupid money.

[timtonymanu]

There's going to be some salty ass nigs in this thread in about a week tbh :lol


:corn:

Reading the Green thread, those fat Spurs fans will be salty if he resigns for over 10 million a year too. :lol

[cd98]

Has anyone discussed the impact of Ginobili retiring (potentially) on Green and Splitter staying (and a max deal to another free agent)? I could see Manu retiring to keep the team together as much as possible, if he knows it would be his last season and his heart isn't in it 100%. Brent Barry did the same thing in Houston. He thought it better to give a younger player a roster spot then to take it and play another season when his heart wasn't in it.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I think Manu is gone. Why would you "announce" that you are coming back? You announce that you are retiring.

[Malik Hairston]

I think Manu is gone. Why would you "announce" that you are coming back? You announce that you are retiring.

Hopefully he's announcing that this upcoming season will be his final year, it's plausible IMO..

[spurraider21]

Most of what you said actually doesn't make sense. But the bolded part is what I'll address. Splitter and Mills make $12 Million together, and Reggie Williams has a non-guaranteed contract worth a bit over a million. So the Spurs can send back about $13.2 Million using those three guys, which means LMA can sign a deal starting at $18.3. Not the full max, but definitely close enough.
what salaries are assumed for Duncan and Gino in this scenario

[RD2191]

Gaining lma but losing splitter and green leaves the team worse off than before. A team with lma, duncan, parker, scrub sg, and kawhi ain't winning a title. Maybe if tim was in his prime but not right now. No way in hell. Spurs have better shot at ringing if they keep the team as is. Imo.

[Chinook]

what salaries are assumed for Duncan and Gino in this scenario

It doesn't matter with the slight caveat that the Spurs don't cross the apron (unlikely at that stage of the off-season but definitely in play later on). That's a sign-and-trade scenario, so there's not cap consideration.

[houston spurs fan]

NBA Lockdown's latest podcast is worth a listen. Marc Stein basically confirms that all signs lead to Aldridge picking the Spurs. The Mavs chasing Deandre Jordan basically confirms it as well.

Just give it time IMO. PATFO didn't draft a guy similar to Tiago's skill set for no reason, and I'm sure they have a trading partner lined up when it's time.
I didn't hear one thing that led me to believe that. The Mavs will chase any free agent that breaths. They didn't say anything of the sort. Focus was primarily Laker-centric in regards to Aldridge.

[BatManu20]

Uhh. Okay.

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[RD2191]

Shams is my go to guy for insider news. Jk.

[TheGreatYacht]

I didn't hear one thing that led me to believe that. The Mavs will chase any free agent that breaths. They didn't say anything of the sort. Focus was primarily Laker-centric in regards to Aldridge.
Stein said that he doesn't see Aldridge going back to Portland, also stated that the Lakers aren't really an attractive team to him because they won't contend. He basically said it's going down to the 3 Texas teams.. San Antonio which he has on top of his list, Dallas who has the money but wouldn't know how him and Dirk can play together, and Houston which he doubts because LA doesn't want to be second tier to Harden (reason why he wants out of Portland in the first place)

The Mavs chasing Jordan part, I included myself. They got Parsons recruiting him already and Jordan would make way more sense if they plan on starting Dirk.

[Ron Swanson]

Shams is up there with tspence.

[look_at_g_shred]

Shams is my go to guy for insider news. Jk.
IMHO

[Mugen]

If Manu retires and the Spurs end up losing out on Aldridge/Danny, then Tim better get Kirby money this year tbh.

[jjktkk]

There's no doubt that if what he wants is stability, then the Spurs are probably the best destination for him. Stability and winning not always go hand in hand though.

Frankly, a lot of the FO 'awesomeness' comes directly from Tim, tbh... from still wanting to be coached, to taking paycuts for the benefit of the team, to having an elite HoF player like him makes it much easier to make do with subpar talent.

I think the FO will be heavily tested in the upcoming years once TD hangs them up, that's why I'm saying there's a lot of questions looming, especially when you have to commit to a team for the next 5-6 years.

You're right, that Timmy deserves a lot of credit for making PATFO look brilliant, but PATFO did engineer the trade for Leonard, so there's that.

[gambit1990]

maybe if he has some "interest" in playing for the raptors partly because the east is such a joke.

[DPG21920]

Keeping the MLE and BAE is also a key difference.

Absolutely. I was only referring to the certain part of the question, but no doubt doing a S&T is the optimal way to go for the reasons you listed. It would be amazing if Holt & Co were willing to really pony up the dough to keep Green and use the MLE as well. What a team they could build if they were allowed to do that.

[InRareForm]

the fucking raptors? i knew it... we had no chance.

[DPG21920]

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Stein confirming this - kind of annoying from LMA. I mean, I get weighing options but taking meetings from everyone?

[Mugen]

^ not coming, Deepy. Sorry but if he actually wanted to win a championship (biggest selling point the Spurs have over any other team sans maybe Houston) then he won't be taking a sit down with the f'n Raptors.

Unless, this nigga just wanted some free poutine, he ain't comin'....

[sexinthatsx]

Aren't you guys happy Spurs rejected trade offers for Splitter now? I knew LMA would pull a stunt like this.

[TD 21]

Portland was interested in splitter when they were contending. ...why would they want him and his contract, in a rebuild?

Because their plan is likely to re-build, while attempting to remain as competitive as possible.

Splitter and Mills: Quality role players, in their prime, value contracts, fill immediate needs and strong re-sale value.

Then there's the 1st round pick, which they would more than likely demand, plus the fact that they're unlikely to do better in free agency and if they do, they'll likely have to overpay.



Why do people keep saying "if he wants to win, he should pick the Spurs", tbh? The Spurs long term outlook is pretty bleak at the moment, IMO, you have a ball dominant PG (something LMA is already running away from) on the wrong side of 30, injury prone and out of shape to put it mildly locked up at a contract that limits flexibility, two aged veterans that make up the backbone of the team close to retirement, Green might walk, picked nobody that matters on the draft, a FO that's generally reluctant to make big trades... is Pop gonna stick around for the next 5-6 years? I think there's a lot of questions...

Because, like most professional athletes, he wants to win, but probably only if it's on his terms. The Spurs can offer him arguably the best immediate opportunity and a solid one beyond next season (if they can retain Green and either this off season or next, find an eventual placeholder starter at C, they'll remain one of the better teams). But unlike the Rockets, for example, they don't have a ball dominant superstar, who'd relegate him to a secondary role and get the majority of the credit for it, if they do.

So even though Leonard, at some point in the near future, will become the clear best player on the team, he's not a prototypical go-to player in game or personality. Aldridge could have the top usage, score the most and receive all of the accolades that come along with that.

[ducks]

how many times he is a fa?
I can see him wanting to sit down with teams that can offer the max
just doubt he would go there

[RD2191]

:lolmeltdown is going to be worth it tbh

[Manu20]

Raptors!?!? Well I guess they did make the playoffs and are on the weaker conference. Like I said before the longer LMA takes to make his decision the less likely he will choose SA....July 1st cant come soon enough!

[Mr. Body]

Manu visited Denver while a FA. Had no real intentions of going there. Smart to keep options open. Also to keep some control over negotiation.

[K...]

Raptors seem fine, but that's really far from Texas. I don't see it. No southern American is going to want to play in the great white north. And it's not like their max is better than ours.

[tholdren]

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Stein confirming this - kind of annoying from LMA. I mean, I get weighing options but taking meetings from everyone?


just go after Milsap, keep everyone else. Don't have time for this dude talking to anyone with bank. Pass on it.

[RD2191]

Tbh why wouldn't lma go east? He's pretty much guaranteed at the very least a trip to the ecf every season for the next 3-4 seasons if he stays healthy. The east is that bad.

[bigfan]

Its a business, I don't blame him for talking with anyone. I seriously doubt he wants to be a Craptor.

[look_at_g_shred]

Who's he meeting with first??

[cantthinkofanything]

Who's he meeting with first??

your mom

[Ditty]

Tbh why wouldn't lma go east? He's pretty much guaranteed at the very least a trip to the ecf every season for the next 3-4 seasons if he stays healthy. The east is that bad.


No no one is winning the East as long as Lebron remains there. LA just wanting to hear what other teams want to say that's all, he's either coming here or Dallas.

[DPG21920]

No no one is winning the East as long as Lebron remains there. LA just wanting to hear what other teams want to say that's all, he's either coming here or Dallas.

It's not like other teams can offer him more money. What could a team possibly say to him that could sway him if a TX team is that high on his list? Seems like a waste of time - especially because the money is the same no matter where he goes.

[RD2191]

No no one is winning the East as long as Lebron remains there. LA just wanting to hear what other teams want to say that's all, he's either coming here or Dallas.
Way too many factors to make that claim. The ECF are wide open every season and injuries do happen. LMA would make at least the ecf if he joins the raptors. The cavs are pretty much lebron and Kyrie. One bad series and another team can make the finals. Not impossible. Way easier than making the wcf, that's for sure.

[tholdren]

Its a business, I don't blame him for talking with anyone. I seriously doubt he wants to be a Craptor.
disagree. think about your wife; would you like to know that she went on a date with some meth-head just because he had money and she was single - just seeing what was out there. OR would you rather know that the people she did go to dinner with had real, successful jobs, with a current plan for success, and longterm interests in mind, rather than a one night stand.

If its true, then Toronto can have det thot

[look_at_g_shred]

Can't wait for "and now the nuggets are now on top of LMAs list"

[Darius Bieber]

He might as well meet with the Timberwolves too

[Ron Swanson]

76ers soon to be at the top of the list.

[Mnky]

Spurfan seems to forget how abysmal the eastern conference is. The raptors are pretty young as well, which means they have potential, but also means they may be too far from contending for the finals. Going to meet these teams, agents get to discuss the future as well as possible trade and free agency agendas. You guys act like you walk into wal Mart and don't second guess the great value brand. Due diligence to test the waters.

[tholdren]

Spurfan seems to forget how abysmal the eastern conference is. The raptors are pretty young as well, which means they have potential, but also means they may be too far from contending for the finals. Going to meet these teams, agents get to discuss the future as well as possible trade and free agency agendas. You guys act like you walk into wal Mart and don't second guess the great value brand. Due diligence to test the waters.

The problem is you walked into WalMart in the first place. There are those of you who shop at WalMart, and those of us who don't. I'll let you guess which ones have jobs.

[RD2191]

Spurfan seems to forget how abysmal the eastern conference is. The raptors are pretty young as well, which means they have potential, but also means they may be too far from contending for the finals. Going to meet these teams, agents get to discuss the future as well as possible trade and free agency agendas. You guys act like you walk into wal Mart and don't second guess the great value brand. Due diligence to test the waters.
:lmaoGreat value brand.

[ElNono]

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Stein confirming this - kind of annoying from LMA. I mean, I get weighing options but taking meetings from everyone?

Maybe sending a message that he wants his money and he won't take a discount?

[spurraider21]

Maybe sending a message that he wants his money and he won't take a discount?
how much tax would he be paying from toronto

[DPG21920]

Perhaps - just seems odd that his reported list (by some reputable people) has grown to around 7+. I can get wanting to test the waters, but that seems outrageous if true becaue the money is the same no matter what. Seems like someone who really wants to be courted - if so, kind of alarming IMPO

[ElNono]

Because, like most professional athletes, he wants to win, but probably only if it's on his terms. The Spurs can offer him arguably the best immediate opportunity and a solid one beyond next season (if they can retain Green and either this off season or next, find an eventual placeholder starter at C, they'll remain one of the better teams). But unlike the Rockets, for example, they don't have a ball dominant superstar, who'd relegate him to a secondary role and get the majority of the credit for it, if they do.

So even though Leonard, at some point in the near future, will become the clear best player on the team, he's not a prototypical go-to player in game or personality. Aldridge could have the top usage, score the most and receive all of the accolades that come along with that.

I don't know about all that. He's looking at playing with a ball dominant PG, former star, for at least 3 seasons and if there's anything about the Spurs is that nobody really sticks out, media-wise. Largely underrated team even when they were dominant.

That said, he probably would be more appreciated than what he was in Portland, where Lillard pretty much received most of the praise. If he really wants the hype and limelight, LA is probably the place to go for him.

[jon123spurs]

Part 1)
Halftime Sports (@myhalftime) tweeted at 5:18 PM on Mon, Jun 29, 2015:
Amid reports that LaMarcus Aldridge agrees to meet w/other teams, multiple sources tell me he's looking at houses in SA area. Aldridge has..
(https://twitter.com/myhalftime/status/615645503766663168?s=03)


Part 2)
Halftime Sports (@myhalftime) tweeted at 5:18 PM on Mon, Jun 29, 2015:
family in area so it’s not necessarily indication that he’s made decision…though it could be another “indicator” #Spurs are among favorites
(https://twitter.com/myhalftime/status/615645658658140160?s=03)

[spurraider21]

so what's his jersey number gna be?

[ElNono]

I thought teams couldn't talk to players until July 1st?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I thought teams couldn't talk to players until July 1st?

Team officials and coaches can only ask about meetings, and players can talk about whatever to other players.

[Spur|n|Austin]

disagree. think about your wife; would you like to know that she went on a date with some meth-head just because he had money and she was single - just seeing what was out there. OR would you rather know that the people she did go to dinner with had real, successful jobs, with a current plan for success, and longterm interests in mind, rather than a one night stand.

If its true, then Toronto can have det thot

That could possibly be one of the worst analogies I've ever heard. You're essentially saying that LMA is already on our team (the wife).

[Solid D]

State income tax rates 2015

http://www.money-zine.com/financial-planning/tax-shelter/state-income-tax-rates/

[tholdren]

That could possibly be one of the worst analogies I've ever heard. You're essentially saying that LMA is already on our team (the wife).
could be, but moreso commenting on what type of character you would prefer to have any relationship with. sorry you didn't comprehend that. I will do a better job of communicating more clearly, or you could always talk to the other poster when you see him at WalMart.

[houston spurs fan]

I don't know about all that. He's looking at playing with a ball dominant PG, former star, for at least 3 seasons and if there's anything about the Spurs is that nobody really sticks out, media-wise. Largely underrated team even when they were dominant.

That said, he probably would be more appreciated than what he was in Portland, where Lillard pretty much received most of the praise. If he really wants the hype and limelight, LA is probably the place to go for him.
Or Brooklyn

[Mnky]

The problem is

There is no problem.

[ducks]

taxes in Canada?

[TXstbobcat]

State income tax rates 2015

http://www.money-zine.com/financial-planning/tax-shelter/state-income-tax-rates/

Damn state income taxes. Why did I move from Texas to Minnesota!!!! :bang

[TD 21]

I don't know about all that. He's looking at playing with a ball dominant PG, former star, for at least 3 seasons and if there's anything about the Spurs is that nobody really sticks out, media-wise. Largely underrated team even when they were dominant.

That said, he probably would be more appreciated than what he was in Portland, where Lillard pretty much received most of the praise. If he really wants the hype and limelight, LA is probably the place to go for him.

I'm confident that Parker will adjust his game for the betterment of the team going forward. He knows he's past his prime and can't shoulder the load offensively all season at this point.

"Nobody really sticks out" . . . the past few seasons. That will all change going forward, as they'll become somewhat more conventional, out of necessity.

The Lakers can't supplement the hype and limelight with winning now or a path to do so in the near future, nor essentially returning to his roots and being around family. They also can't claim to have the best coach and front office in the league. The Spurs have every box checked.

[ducks]

Damn state income taxes. Why did I move from Texas to Minnesota!!!! :bang

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$?
wife??????????????

[dbestpro]

29% federal, and 13.16% for Toronto, Ontario. Fed tax would be deducted with US tax, but would have to pay the 13.16%.

[TXstbobcat]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$?
wife??????????????

You guessed correct on both. Job offer and girlfriend's giant family lives here.

[BatManu20]

Meeting set for July 1.

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[Big P]

From Hoopshype

11 mins ago - via San Antonio Express-News

There are those who believe Aldridge has the Spurs at or near the top of a list of suitors that also includes Dallas, the Los Angeles Lakers, New York and Atlanta. Two rival executives — neither with a team expected to enter the Aldridge sweepstakes — were less enthusiastic Monday. While both agreed the Spurs will be in the mix for Aldridge, neither tagged them as the early favorites.

Free Agency, Los Angeles, LaMarcus Aldridge, Atlanta Hawks, Dallas Mavericks, Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks, San Antonio Spurs

[ElNono]

I'm confident that Parker will adjust his game for the betterment of the team going forward. He knows he's past his prime and can't shoulder the load offensively all season at this point.

"Nobody really sticks out" . . . the past few seasons. That will all change going forward, as they'll become somewhat more conventional, out of necessity.

The Lakers can't supplement the hype and limelight with winning now or a path to do so in the near future, nor essentially returning to his roots and being around family. They also can't claim to have the best coach and front office in the league. The Spurs have every box checked.

I hope so, I really do.

[SpurPadre]

With the Toronto news, it looks like Aldridge is intent on dragging this as long as possible, contrary to what he said earlier about making his mind up soon.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Maybe sending a message that he wants his money and he won't take a discount?

Maybe or it could mean that he doesn't refuse scheduling visits. If the 76ers are the 8th team down the list he is likely signed before they ever see him but he still builds credibility with the franchise. He has said he wants it over quickly. How many teams can he visit in a week?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

With the Toronto news, it looks like Aldridge is intent on dragging this as long as possible, contrary to what he said earlier about making his mind up soon.

Maybe. He cannot sign until the 9th so that is when you want him in San Antonio.

[beirmeistr]

I wouldn't be surprised if LMA schedules some meetings with European teams

[DPG21920]

Maybe. He cannot sign until the 9th so that is when you want him in San Antonio.

Absoultely not. If the Spurs don't get an answer early, it throws everything off. It's not about signing - it's about the committment. Unless you're Carlos Boozer, it's incredibly rare someone goes back on their word.

Spurs, in order to execute things, have to know sooner than later because of all the subsequent moves they likely have to make.

[weebo]

Meh. Although I'd be happy if Aldridge signed with the Spurs, it's not like we're signing Lebron James. He's a good player for sure and probably the best the Spurs can do (given that no true superstar wants to play in SA). However, he's not a difference maker and he's a 30 something basketball player. At the end of the day, Tim will still be on his last knee cap and on his way out, Manu will be gone (currently writing his obituary), Parker will still be Porker, and our role players will be suspect. In other words, he and Kawhi won't be enough to keep this team as perennial championship contenders for the next couple of years.

[look_at_g_shred]

If the Spurs were first on his list, why wouldn't he meet with us first?

[DesignatedT]

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Absoultely not. If the Spurs don't get an answer early, it throws everything off. It's not about signing - it's about the committment. Unless you're Carlos Boozer, it's incredibly rare someone goes back on their word.

Spurs, in order to execute things, have to know sooner than later because of all the subsequent moves they likely have to make.

:lol people certainly freak out over the uncertain.

with the spurs we never have early answers even if the club does. for all you know they could very well have talked to his agent and have agreed to the framework of a deal and LA is not above having his ass kissed all world style for a week. that is just as possible as LA's comments from last week being lies. nm that it's the week of NBA FA in the lull of summer sports. The noise is going to be greater and greater as the 9th approaches.

I would love to play poker with you.

[ace3g]

Ben Bolch @latbbolch
(https://twitter.com/latbbolch)Heard that LaMarcus Aldridge was leaning toward Lakers, a sign that their brand is not only back but never went away despite appearances.

--

If he really wants to go there then he doesn't care about winning.



Not taking source too seriously though.

[TD 21]

On his own, he might not be a difference maker (there's only a few of these in the league at a given time), but if he's added to a team that has Duncan, Leonard, Green, Parker, Ginobili and Diaw, he has the potential to be.

And the notion that the Spurs need an answer quickly is probably not true (nor are they likely to get one). The floodgates generally don't open until the top players available make their decision and the usually doesn't happen for at least a few days.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs have an understanding with Green whereby he'll wait until Aldridge makes his decision, then decide between whatever they offer and offers he's already received. I'd also expect they'll have a Splitter (with Mills, possibly) lined up. It'll all probably happen within' a few hours.

[BatManu20]

Fwiw, LMA will be joined by his mother in all his FA meetings. PATFO gotta make a good impression on his mama, tbh.

[Mugen]

I honestly doubt Danny will wait around for the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

:lol people certainly freak out over the uncertain.

with the spurs we never have early answers even if the club does. for all you know they could very well have talked to his agent and have agreed to the framework of a deal and LA is not above having his ass kissed all world style for a week. that is just as possible as LA's comments from last week being lies. nm that it's the week of NBA FA in the lull of summer sports. The noise is going to be greater and greater as the 9th approaches.

I would love to play poker with you.

Don't be obtuse. I wasn't talking about what we know, but what the Spurs know. Their actions will tell us.

[CGD]

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Stein confirming this - kind of annoying from LMA. I mean, I get weighing options but taking meetings from everyone?

I was acually wondering why there wasn't more talk of Toronto as an LMA destination. They have a decent young core with Valincinous, Lowery, and DeRozen, and loads of cap space playing in the ShEast. Cool as hell city too. The real question there is if they're an upgrade to Portland, at less money.

Reality is that it's probably also a safety plan if the Spurs or Mavs don't pan out. LMA essentially gave up some leverage when he told the Blazers (reportedly) that's he's out the door. Kind of getting harder to walk that one back each day.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Don't be obtuse. I wasn't talking about what we know, but what the Spurs know. Their actions will tell us.

After all is said and done. Absent him committing to a team -which is what you are angling for despite your poopooing- their actions will tell us diddly.

[DPG21920]

Lol ok.

[BatManu20]

Lakerfan blowing their load on Twitter :lol


"It's happening!"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIsBouHVEAAnJm-.jpg

[spurraider21]

Fwiw, LMA will be joined by his mother in all his FA meetings. PATFO gotta make a good impression on his mama, tbh.
Pop will crack open a mediocre bottle of wine and ruin the whole thing :pctoss

[weebo]

Can't see a scenario where Aldridge would want to play for the Lakers. Why would Aldridge want to play for a team that's in the middle of rebuild, while still having to play second fiddle to arguably the worst teammate in the NBA?

[tholdren]

Can't see a scenario where Aldridge would want to play for the Lakers. Why would Aldridge want to play for a team that's in the middle of rebuild, while still having to play second fiddle to arguably the worst teammate in the NBA?

True, but it's like Pau Gasol… did you really want to play with the bulls for winning? Its about money, then the winning is a bonus for many of the NBA players. Another reason why losing this generation of Spurs Greats will be tough - the continual bullshit of the business - are you in it for basketball or the money… just like every other occupation

[BatManu20]

Can't see a scenario where Aldridge would want to play for the Lakers. Why would Aldridge want to play for a team that's in the middle of rebuild, while still having to play second fiddle to arguably the worst teammate in the NBA?

The LA lifestyle can be very luring, tbh, especially for pro athletes. LMA has a house here in SoCal too, so I certainly wouldn't put it past him.

[Plum Island]

:lol people certainly freak out over the uncertain.

with the spurs we never have early answers even if the club does. for all you know they could very well have talked to his agent and have agreed to the framework of a deal and LA is not above having his ass kissed all world style for a week. that is just as possible as LA's comments from last week being lies. nm that it's the week of NBA FA in the lull of summer sports. The noise is going to be greater and greater as the 9th approaches.

I would love to play poker with you.
I recall saying such a thing on a certain Cowboys forum you frequent to certain individuals just a few months past. Ah... I should rejoin those brothers. It's been awhile...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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[SpursFan86]

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[CGD]

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Meh, that probably has more to do with the fact they're on PST.

[AFBlue]

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Since he sold his house I wonder where they plan to meet with him.

[Big P]

He lives in Cali right? He moved out of his Portland house, but I think the teams are meeting him in LA if I heard correctly.

[DesignatedT]

He has a house in LA IIRC but this definitely has everything to do with LA being on PST and him happening to be there.

[AFBlue]

He lives in Cali right? He moved out of his Portland house, but I think the teams are meeting him in LA if I heard correctly.

Ah ok, I must've missed that.

[sexinthatsx]

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/25228620/report-spurs-shopping-tiago-splitter-to-sign-lamarcus-aldridge?FTAG=YHF7e3228e

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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[look_at_g_shred]

Isn't it a good sign that the Spurs are shopping splitter again? I know there was a debate about the Spurs wouldn't trade splitter unless they had the indication that LMA would sign with us..or do they just want to move splitter anyway...?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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[spurraider21]

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hopefully they're not meeting at a restaurant, or else parker could make a pretty bad impression

[look_at_g_shred]

What?^^^ Timmy? It's over folks lol

[Mugen]

At least LaMarcus will know there's some good food down in San Antonio

[timtonymanu]

No Manu?

[spurraider21]

No Manu?
he's in mexico or whatever the fuck

[Clipper Nation]

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In between shoving his face with food off of Aldridge's plate, Porker will probably be telling Aldridge how many touches he'll need to sacrifice for the dribble-dribble-dribble system.

[Mugen]

I'm not sure if this beats Kobe's "Be My Tyson Chandler" pitch that he's ready to dust off tbh

[Chinook]

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So I wonder if that's a guarantee that Duncan is coming back. I am surprised Leonard won't be there, seeing as he's probably just down the highway as it is.

[Chinook]

he's in mexico or whatever the fuck

Are you going to represent SpursTalk at the Aldridge meeting?

[Seventyniner]

So I wonder if that's a guarantee that Duncan is coming back. I am surprised Leonard won't be there, seeing as he's probably just down the highway as it is.

Meh, Leonard wouldn't say a single word anyway.

[BillMc]

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Good sign regarding Timmy, but possibly another (small sign) that Manu is done.

[SpursFan86]

Some people here complained about the Spurs not caring enough to do recruiting for FAs...I'd say bringing along the GOAT coach and GOAT PF is a pretty damn good sales pitch.

[look_at_g_shred]

Damn this is actually happening.. I thought Timmy didn't do recruiting..they must feel like they have a really good shot as indicated. He just needs to be nudged in the right direction

[BillMc]

I'm not sure if this beats Kobe's "Be My Tyson Chandler" pitch that he's ready to dust off tbh

Maybe he can use the same pitch he did on Dwight Howard, that worked well...

[AFBlue]

Spurs playing it smart. They know he admires Pop, they know Tim is his idol, and they know Tony is the cultured one. Awesome that Tim is coming along...assume that means at least one more year, if not two.

[Chinook]

Meh, Leonard wouldn't say a single word anyway.

He just needs to bring his fMVP and DPoY trophies. He can probably carry both in one hand.

[Wu36]

Is RC driving?

[r0drig0lac]

What?^^^ Timmy? It's over folks lol

this

[look_at_g_shred]

Is RC driving?
Tbh...

[Uriel]

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Didn't Woj report that Leonard would join the recruitment?

[SpurPadre]

Some people here complained about the Spurs not caring enough to do recruiting for FAs...I'd say bringing along the GOAT coach and GOAT PF is a pretty damn good sales pitch.

Yeah but they're also bringing along a GOAT teammate wife fucker, so there's that to worry about.

[dbreiden83080]

Timmy is like

"Come on bro, lets go get that ring"

[bklynspursfan]

I just want to live in a world where we can get LMA & keep Patty & DG.... Is that too much to ask?

[HI-FI]

Are you going to represent SpursTalk at the Aldridge meeting?
If it's held here
http://35drsm2kcjyo1uhpn73720ja.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/p8180052.jpg
maybe spurraider can eavesdrop while bussing.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I just want to live in a world where we can get LMA & keep Patty & DG.... Is that too much to ask?

yes

[SpurPadre]

Didn't Woj report that Leonard would join the recruitment?

He better come along. If he cared enough to show up for Chris fucking Paul recently, then he better show up for this.

[AFBlue]

He better come along. If he cared enough to show up for Chris fucking Paul recently, then he better show up for this.

Seems like you have some anger issues bro. It'll be okay, it's just a game.

[Duncan2177]

Some people here complained about the Spurs not caring enough to do recruiting for FAs...I'd say bringing along the GOAT coach and GOAT PF is a pretty damn good sales pitch.

:bobo

[Mugen]

If it's held here
http://35drsm2kcjyo1uhpn73720ja.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/p8180052.jpg
maybe spurraider can eavesdrop while bussing.

:lol

[SpurPadre]

Seems like you have some anger issues bro. It'll be okay, it's just a game.

You can glean anger issues off a post on a basketball topic? Lol.