Marc Stein: Spurs are #1 on LaMarcus Aldridge's list

[BatManu20]

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No Coyote? Damn Spurs are gonna blow this.

[spurraider21]

If it's held here
http://35drsm2kcjyo1uhpn73720ja.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/p8180052.jpg
maybe spurraider can eavesdrop while bussing.
:lmao

[Darius Bieber]

Parker's going to the meeting? Damn.

[SpurPadre]

No Coyote? Damn Spurs are gonna blow this.

I also would've taken Eva over TP for this, tbh.

[rmt]

I just want to live in a world where we can get LMA & keep Patty & DG.... Is that too much to ask?

D**m that Parker contract! Why in the world did they extend him - he's not going anywhere!! And for so much!!!

[BatManu20]

I'm curious as to what the pitch is gonna be with Tim and Manu set to retire after this year, and Porker looking like a backup PG at best right now. I imagine the name "Kawhi" will be brought up numerous times in that meeting.

[Malik Hairston]

Ugh, why the fuck is Parker going to the meeting? Smh..

[BatManu20]

Ugh, why the fuck is Parker going to the meeting? Smh..

:lol I can see it now:

LMA: "So Tony, Brent Barry tells you fucked his bitch. How do I know you're not going to do the same to my gurl?"

Porker: "I can't make any promises."

LMA: "Meeting adjourned."

Porker: "Anyone else hungry?"

[Duncan2177]

Are Parker and Aldridge good friends?

[Clipper Nation]

I imagine the name "Kawhi" will be brought up numerous times in that meeting.
"I can't believe Kawhi won Finals MVP over me!"

"Join Kawhi in being the new core of players that get to watch me dribble out the shot clock and hoist up a long two."

[TXstbobcat]

:lol I can see it now:

LMA: "So Tony, Brent Barry tells you fucked his bitch. How do I know you're not going to do the same to my gurl?"

Porker: "I can't make any promises."

LMA: "Meeting adjourned."

Porker: "Anyone else hungry?"

:lmao

[jsandiego]

If the Lakers are the main competition, they should just bring up how Dwight Howard was treated as the 2nd star.

The Los Angeles and ESPN media will play it this way:

1. Kobe is awesome and is a all-time superstar that can do no wrong.
2. LMA will be blamed for any failures in order to prop up Kobe's legacy.
3. Any successes will not be due to LMA's production, since he hasn't won anything prior to playing with Kobe.

There is plenty of history to see how the Los Angeles plan is lose/lose for LMA:
Old Shaq - forced out by Kobe
Pau - All credit to Kobe for the 2 rings; all Pau's fault for leaving even though he hated playing there when it was all said and done.
D12 - Hated being there so bad he opted out to go sign in Houston.

PATFO seem too classy to bring this up, but hopefully it's said, one way or another, that his life will be a living hell playing for the Lakers.

[Mugen]

apparently Porky and Lamarcus are friends and were in Boston earlier this month to watch that midget Kevin Hart

[ironman2886]

Pop instructions for TD and Tony before the meeting....

Pop: "Timmy, please wear a clothing brand other than Fubu."

Pop: "Tony, just sit there, be quiet, and for God's sake put those Slim Jim's away."

[SpurPadre]

:lol I can see it now:

LMA: "So Tony, Brent Barry tells you fucked his bitch. How do I know you're not going to do the same to my gurl?"

Porker: "I can't make any promises."

LMA: "Meeting adjourned."

Porker: "Anyone else hungry?"

Actually, it's more like this:

LMA: How do I know you won't fuck my girl?

TP: I already did...but that was before you even thought of leaving Portland so why should that affect things now?

LMA: Anybody got Cuban' s number?

[Duncan2177]

I would love to be a fly on the wall in that meeting.

[look_at_g_shred]

Pop instructions for TD and Tony before the meeting....

Pop: "Timmy, please wear a clothing brand other than Fubu."

Pop: "Tony, just sit there, be quiet, and for God's sake put those Slim Jim's away."
Read that in devito's voice if I'm being honest.

[RD2191]

Man, fuck the Spurs if they trade Tiago just to sign LMA. The dude is a choker. Soft. I'm telling you faggots, Spurs aren't ringing if they lose Tiago.

[Juan]

Tim Duncan clearly appears to want Lamarcus Aldridge as well. What does that say? Duncan doesn't know his shit either...? But the spurstalk arm chair coaches do I suppose. :lol

[BatManu20]

Man, fuck the Spurs if they trade Tiago just to sign LMA. The dude is a choker. Soft. I'm telling you faggots, Spurs aren't ringing if they lose Tiago.

Well we're probably not ringing next year with him either, tbh. Not with the roster constructed as is. We can't keep relying on Duncan and Tony as our go to's anymore. Need another piece.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Didn't Woj report that Leonard would join the recruitment?

He lives in LA during the offseason and was recently at Paul's camp out there, I wouldn't be surprised if Leonard and Aldridge already don't work out together.

[Uriel]

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Terrible news. When making a pitch, you always want to be first or last, so you'll be remembered. Middle of the pack is worst case scenario.

[stxspurs]

So I wonder if that's a guarantee that Duncan is coming back. I am surprised Leonard won't be there, seeing as he's probably just down the highway as it is.

they dont want him sitting on the couch staring at his mama like this

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[look_at_g_shred]

Wonder how long these visits are..

[TXstbobcat]

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Spurs didn't want to invite Leonard?????

[bklynspursfan]

D**m that Parker contract! Why in the world did they extend him - he's not going anywhere!! And for so much!!!

I'm not mad at them for that. They take care of their star players. TP (despite what the general consensus is on this site) has been a big part of our identity and success. Same with Manu. They both may have made more and raised some eyebrows, till you see they probably could have made more had they gone elsewhere in their primes. True team players. I'm happy SA takes care of it's guys, and that's something that can be sold to LMA, that if you are loyal to them, they'll take care of you.

[marinoman]

both parker and kobe are just big names at this point, neither is good. So if playing with Kobe intrigues aldridge, then so should parker.

[tholdren]

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Terrible news. When making a pitch, you always want to be first or last, so you'll be remembered. Middle of the pack is worst case scenario.
pass on this douche bag. He's in a winning situation with 2 of those teams, possibly. How in the hell can Houston afford him?

[DesignatedT]

pass on this douche bag. He's in a winning situation with 2 of those teams, possibly. How in the hell can Houston afford him?

He'll be sitting on his couch the whole time at home. No harm in letting teams come through the door and listen to what they have to say. No extra work on his part.

[BatManu20]

LMA walks into the meeting room and sits down. Pop says nothing. Tony says nothing. Tim presses play on the TV. This plays:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxw2FZBd7aY&feature=youtu.be

[BatManu20]

How in the hell can Houston afford him?

They'd have to gut their roster to free up cap space, most notably Ariza, T. Jones, and J-Smoove.

[tholdren]

They'd have to gut their roster to free up cap space, most notably Ariza, T. Jones, and J-Smoove.

I would love it if the LMA thing was just a ploy.

[timtonymanu]

LMA walks into the meeting room and sits down. Pop says nothing. Tony says nothing. Tim presses play on the TV. This plays:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxw2FZBd7aY&feature=youtu.be

:lmao

[K...]

Regarding the Lakers. They can't rebuild next year. No draft pick. If they get aldridge, boogie,, or whoever they pretty much have to try ava make the playoffs. They'd be close. We can laugh at them for two years of rebuilding but let's not ignore that that team has some tying talent which could be interesting with the right vet?.

But yeah, I don't see it. Not after pau and Dwight. If it were a money talks thing I'd say L.A. Was a lock but I don't think he's going for a long term max

[BatManu20]

At least LaMarcus will know there's some good food down in San Antonio

Meeting is in LA, unfortunately.

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[Spur|n|Austin]

Spurs didn't want to invite Leonard?????

Do you see Kawhi as the type of person who would sit in a persuasion meeting and do a lot of talking to sway someone?


Meeting is in LA, unfortunately.

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Probably better than in SA - "And over here Lamarcus, you can visit the Ripley's Believe it or Not museum as often as you'd like and then swing by Taco Cabana on the way home".

[spurraider21]

Spurs might throw in free training sessions with Coach B.

[exstatic]

Damn this is actually happening.. I thought Timmy didn't do recruiting..they must feel like they have a really good shot as indicated. He just needs to be nudged in the right direction

?? Timmy recruited Finley.

[Beaverfuzz]

LMA walks into the meeting room and sits down. Pop says nothing. Tony says nothing. Tim presses play on the TV. This plays:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxw2FZBd7aY&feature=youtu.be


The funny thing is, this is more "advertising" for LMA than he has done in Portland as the "Auto Mall" commercial with Sideshow Bob definitely doesn't touch this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_Wsfx4r6o

[manufan10]

LMA walks into the meeting room and sits down. Pop says nothing. Tony says nothing. Tim presses play on the TV. This plays:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxw2FZBd7aY&feature=youtu.be

:lol

[Mugen]

Meeting is in LA, unfortunately.

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I was talking about seeing Porky waddle his way into the meeting tbh.

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Tim Duncan joining Spurs' efforts to recruit prized free agent big man LaMarcus Aldridge. yhoo.it/1Ip6Rum (http://t.co/6suilrB895)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)Tim Duncan joining Spurs' efforts to recruit prized free agent big man LaMarcus Aldridge. yhoo.it/1Ip6Rum (http://t.co/6suilrB895)



From the story:

"The Los Angeles Lakers, Houston Rockets and the Dallas Mavericks, Toronto Raptors and Phoenix Suns are among Aldridge's suitors, but a source close to the situation said the Spurs are currently the frontrunner. Aldridge is from Dallas, but has an offseason home in Orange County, south of Los Angeles. His representation agency, Wasserman Media Group, is based in Los Angeles."

[ace3g]

See what Woj has to say a little later on FS1

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[Uriel]

The Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lal/), Houston Rockets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/hou/)and the Dallas Mavericks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/dal/), Toronto Raptors (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/tor/)and Phoenix Suns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/pho/) are among Aldridge's suitors, but a source close to the situation said the Spurs are currently the frontrunner.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--tim-duncan-joining-spurs--recruiting-meeting-with-lamarcus-aldridge-025500451.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

[BatManu20]

I was talking about seeing Porky waddle his way into the meeting tbh.


https://i.imgur.com/jDEYwbZ.jpg

[BatManu20]

Woj on FS1 right now talking about LMA and other FA's.

[ace3g]

Woj says Blazers still in play "comes down to Spurs and that 5th year with Portland".

[Robz4000]

LMA gonna go to the Lakers tbh.

[DesignatedT]

Yep. Woj just said that he's hearing it's either Aldridge to the Spurs or taking the extra year to stay in Portland.

[look_at_g_shred]

Damn..

[BatManu20]

"Right now Spurs are the front-runners if he's going to leave Portland. Now I know there's been a lot of discussion about the fact that maybe he's already decided to leave the Blazers. I'm told that he is still considering them. My sources are telling me this will ultimately come down to the Spurs or taking that 5th year that Portland can guarantee him and the extra $27 Million that could come in a deal with them."

-Woj, just now now on FS1

[Mugen]

Offer him the max with a player option after the 2nd year. Works out for everybody tbh.

[manufan10]

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[cd021]

Depends on how the potential trades go. If Portland will agree to a S&T, the Spurs win hand's down. If they agree to a Houston S&T, then the Rockets may have it. If Portland gets a maxish player to join them, then they may have it. But with straight cap space, the Spurs probably still win.

I could see Houston offering Ariza, Jones, Papanikolaou, Harrell and a first round rounder . I think the Rockets would probably be better off keeping their roster intact, they are very deep and the additions of Harrell and Dekker only help them.

I think the Spurs are the best option overall, especially over L.A.


The Texas teams have a distinct advantage of The Lakers. The tax rate is ridiculous in California (10.55%) If he made $20 million there, it would actually be $18.2 million. If the Spurs executed and S&T he'd actually get more money despite the actual salary being lower.

Bringing back Beli on a multi-year deal without the MLE is an added bonus. I'd like the idea of the Spurs using the MLE on Brandon Wright in that situation, though he'd probably be out of that price range.

[Silver&Black]

Yep. Woj just said that he's hearing it's either Aldridge to the Spurs or taking the extra year to stay in Portland.

Did he say anything about the new LMA to L.A. rumors???

[Mr. Body]

Staying in Portland ain't a bad pick, tbh.

[Mugen]

I'd rather he go to the Lakers than the Blazers tbh. Would make zero sense for either parties.

[spurraider21]

I'd rather he go to the Lakers than the Blazers tbh. Would make zero sense for either parties.
this. if he doesn't join us, i'd prefer the lakers to be his route

[RD2191]

I'd rather he go to the Lakers than the Blazers tbh. Would make zero sense for either parties.


this. if he doesn't join us, i'd prefer the lakers to be his route
Why?

[murpjf88]

I'd rather he go to the Lakers than the Blazers tbh. Would make zero sense for either parties.

That would make as much sense as this post.

[spurraider21]

this. if he doesn't join us, i'd prefer the lakers to be his route
because the lakers are going to be irrelevant during the rest of his prime anyway. the lakers are going to be harmless for the next couple of years.

if he doesnt go to spurs/lakers, he could cause headaches with the mavs/rox

[Mugen]

Why?

He's a terrible fit in LA and would pretty much guarantee them mediocrity for at least the length of his contract tbh.

[RD2191]

because the lakers are going to be irrelevant during the rest of his prime anyway. the lakers are going to be harmless for the next couple of years.

if he doesnt go to spurs/lakers, he could cause headaches with the mavs/rox
:tu

[RD2191]

He's a terrible fit in LA and would pretty much guarantee them mediocrity for at least the length of his contract tbh.
I see. Good point.

[noles1983]

shit, now i get the feeling we get fucked and he stays in Portland.

[DPG21920]

Honestly, not surprised about POR. Despite what people say, LMA seems like an emotional/loyal guy and he probably really loves POR and the fans.

Not only that, the extra year is really important for most people - especially at that level of money. I mean, obviously if he makes it to another contract he can get that "extra year" back, but it's not guaranteed - especially at that amount.

I really don't see LMA turning down SA though. I could not imagine sitting across from Pop/TD/TP and not just absolutely wanting to be a part of what they are. Especially when you see a legend like Tim sitting there and explaining how he is willing to sacrifice millions and millions of dollars because he believes in you. He believes in winning so much that he wants you specifically to join him so he can win alongside you with no ego and nothing but winning on his mind.

In contrast with knowing Kobe will be one of the highest paid players in the NBA and has never shown any ability to sacrifice at all. Kobe will be at the meeting but management will likely hide his ass behind a tall plant so that LMA doesn't see him :lol

[BillMc]

Honestly, not surprised about POR. Despite what people say, LMA seems like an emotional/loyal guy and he probably really loves POR and the fans.

Not only that, the extra year is really important for most people - especially at that level of money. I mean, obviously if he makes it to another contract he can get that "extra year" back, but it's not guaranteed - especially at that amount.

I really don't see LMA turning down SA though. I could not imagine sitting across from Pop/TD/TP and not just absolutely wanting to be a part of what they are. Especially when you see a legend like Tim sitting there and explaining how he is willing to sacrifice millions and millions of dollars because he believes in you. He believes in winning so much that he wants you specifically to join him so he can win alongside you with no ego and nothing but winning on his mind.

In contrast with knowing Kobe will be one of the highest paid players in the NBA and has never shown any ability to sacrifice at all. Kobe will be at the meeting but management will likely hide his ass behind a tall plant so that LMA doesn't see him :lol

:lol

[ace3g]

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[ElNono]

If it's held here
http://35drsm2kcjyo1uhpn73720ja.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/p8180052.jpg
maybe spurraider can eavesdrop while bussing.

:lol

[SpursFan86]

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Woj's full quote

[Mugen]

Kirby will probably bring a few of his SI covers to the meeting tbh

[Beaverfuzz]

Kirby will probably bring a few of his SI covers to the meeting tbh

See those guys in the background LMA? That could be you bro!

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIuAvJKUMAAz8gH.jpg:large

[ElNono]

Kirbs sales pitch will probably go along the lines of "Listen, if you want to learn how to win, you come here, if you don't, I'll teach that Rusell kid how to do it... whatever"

[ElNono]

"We really want you here.... as long as you understand this is MY team"

[ElNono]

Parker going to the meeting too? wow, that's gonna be a large contingent...

[DPG21920]

My pitch if I'm SA:

o Come play along with a legend. One who is willing to sacrafice a ton of money because he thinks you are worth it.

o Not only that, Tim will talk about how David did this for him. How he convinced him the Spurs way was the best way and that he could not only win, but truly love what he does. Something special. This is Tim's moment to pass the torch to LMA and hopefully ride off into the sunset like David did: The ultimate teammate and a champion.

o This management and coach care about not only surrounding you with talent to compete, but prolonging your career. It will be demanding. Spurs will be good with or without you, but it's worth it to win and play for a franchise that truly is different.

o There's a great balance of future building blocks and ability to win now alongside Tim/TP/Pop

Then you can see the story 1 year from now - with Tim holding another finals trophy - announcing his retirement as a champion. One that was ready to go out on top, but making the sure the franchise was in as good of hands as possible before he left. The ultimate franchise player. Teammate. Winner.

[BillMc]

shit, now i get the feeling we get fucked and he stays in Portland.

Yeah, the news that he's still considering Portland means its a 50/50 shot or so he leaves. I used to work as a recruiter, and when the guy said he was considering staying where he's at, the chances of a deal plummeted. Spurs probably have a less than 25% chance to sign him now.

[look_at_g_shred]

Take it easy on Parker guys!! The last pic I had seen, dude was lookin slim!

[BillMc]

Kirbs sales pitch will probably go along the lines of "Listen, if you want to learn how to win, you come here, if you don't, I'll teach that Rusell kid how to do it... whatever"

Worked well with Howard.

[baseline bum]

My thoughts also. I really wanted one for Dice.

No one deserves a ring. I have always been a big Dice fan, but he came up short in Game 7 2005 when he could have had one with Detroit. I was just watching that game today and he was pretty invisible when on the floor in the fourth. Porter had his shot in 2001 and got destroyed by Fisher. Nobody would care if one of these guys got a Mitch Richmond 2002 ring, just like no one remembers Glenn Robinson's 2005 ring (even though Robinson actually played a pretty nice role in bringing the Spurs back from down 17-4 in the first quarter of Game 1 vs Detroit).

[NASpurs]

Parker going to the meeting too? wow, that's gonna be a large contingent...

:lol

[baseline bum]

Kirbs sales pitch will probably go along the lines of "Listen, if you want to learn how to win, you come here, if you don't, I'll teach that Rusell kid how to do it... whatever"

LaMarcus man, you gotta work on that rebound.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/474x/a2/33/fc/a233fc0dbeca56ba390c6dabfcdf0359.jpg

[look_at_g_shred]

I don't see him staying after all this :lol

[beirmeistr]

Tim, don't forget to tell LMA that he will be starring in the famous HEB commercials.

[BatManu20]

Raps fans believing the hype :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIt7GnkUkAEV4DP.jpg

[look_at_g_shred]

So I know this is probably a given but, starting role right? :lol

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Raps fans believing the hype :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIt7GnkUkAEV4DP.jpg

Tbh I don't know why Toronto, Phoenix and New York are even trying. It's even a stretch for the Lakers.

[BatManu20]

R.C. making the trip as well. Just missing the Coyote and Spurs Jesus at this point.

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[BillMc]

What is the difference in after tax income between 4 years in Texas and 5 years in Oregon for LMA? How much is really losing signing with the Spurs?

[BillMc]

R.C. making the trip as well. Just missing the Coyote and Spurs Jesus at this point.

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Manu not flying in. Gotta say he looks done.

[NASpurs]

R.C. making the trip as well. Just missing the Coyote and Spurs Jesus at this point.

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Speaking of mascots like the Coyote and Spurs Jesus, why isn't Bonner going?

[look_at_g_shred]

Anyone know how many teams he can meet with in a day? I'm sure all teams flying in tomorrow.

[monkeypunk]

Manu not flying in. Gotta say he looks done.

Him choosing to release a statement on returning or not to his local paper is pretty damning evidence that he's calling it. Sucks cause I think with low managed minutes, he can still be a force as a facilitator.

[spurraider21]

Raps fans believing the hype :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIt7GnkUkAEV4DP.jpg
basically prime bosh without the defense?

[baseline bum]

I just can't see Aldridge staying. Not when they dump Batum, not when it's looking like they'll lose Afflalo, not when Matthews' career as a high level role player is over. Why is Portland shedding a valuable SF for an unproven PF if they think they have any chance whatsoever to bring LMA back? Action speaks louder than words, and action says Aldridge is gone. If he comes, I really hope the Spurs can swing a sign and trade, dream scenario would be swinging some type of 3 way deal to land Aldridge for say Splitter and Joseph, Manu comes back in a reserve role, Green gets a 4 year $40 million deal, Leonard a five year max deal, Baynes and Bonner come back cheap, and the Spurs decide whether to bring Bellinelli back or pursue someone in that $4 million a year range to replace him. I can't imagine them using the MLE and bringing Belinelli back in this scenario with such a punitive luxury tax starting this season though.

[BillMc]

Him choosing to release a statement on returning or not to his local paper is pretty damning evidence that he's calling it. Sucks cause I think with low managed minutes, he can still be a force as a facilitator.

Yeah, the statement was what made us all 90% sure. I guess we're looking for any good signs. And here's another one that's NOT good.

[Ice009]

this. if he doesn't join us, i'd prefer the lakers to be his route

Saying stuff like this kind of implies that he sucks. You're basically saying that he's not much of a difference maker at all or can't carry a team. If that's what you guys think of him, why does anyone want the Spurs to get him?

[Mugen]

Saying stuff like this kind of implies that he sucks. You're basically saying that he's not much of a difference maker at all or can't carry a team. If that's what you guys think of him, why does anyone want the Spurs to get him?

The Lakers are a dumpster fire tbh :lol

[manufan10]

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[spurraider21]

Saying stuff like this kind of implies that he sucks. You're basically saying that he's not much of a difference maker at all or can't carry a team. If that's what you guys think of him, why does anyone want the Spurs to get him?
its a matter of fit/role... he's a terrible fit for the Lakers. the only nba caliber big on their roster is Julius Randle, a PF prospect who needs all the minutes he can get to develop. LMA can't play center, and he'd only be holding randle's development back. plus, the lakers would expect LMA to carry the team single handedly on his back once Kobe "gets injured"... and we've seen Aldridge isn't really that guy

He'd be a much better fit for the spurs who simply need another big that can score and punish teams for going small... and while he'd probably be our leading scorer, the spurs system never relies too heavily on one guy doing the heavy lifting, even though sometimes parker tries to assume that role

[manufan10]

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[Ice009]

R.C. making the trip as well. Just missing the Coyote and Spurs Jesus at this point.

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Anyone know if most of these July 1st free agent meetings usually happen straight after midnight, or do most of them usually happen later in the morning 9am onwards or so?

[Juan]

I didn't realize he shot over 100 triples last season shooting better than 35% on them also. Pretty impressive.

[ElNono]

do you guys think if he ends up with us, we can finally beat Alba Berlin, tbh?

[RD2191]

do you guys think if he ends up with us, we can finally beat Alba Berlin, tbh?
Nope.

[Dverde]

Manu not flying in. Gotta say he looks done.
Yes, I think the writing is on the walls for Manu. Maybe Kawhi will come. He can stand there quietly and at the end say "it's good".

[313]

Man, fuck the Spurs if they trade Tiago just to sign LMA. The dude is a choker. Soft. I'm telling you faggots, Spurs aren't ringing if they lose Tiago.

LMA > injury prone pussy

[ducks]

Interesting rc going

[Ditty]

Manu will be back trust me :lol he has no real reason to end his vacation in Argentina to fly all the way to California for a few hours just to influence Aldridge to play one more year with him. Ain't going to make a difference anyways what he says.

I don't want to jinx anything when it comes to our chances to land LA, but I'm extremely confident right now things will work out for the best by this weekend :toast

[apalisoc_9]

WTF is Parker doing with ALdridge?

As if that's going to do anything.

I hope parker injuries his leg or something and is out for the season...

[BillMc]

Manu will be back trust me :lol he has no real reason to end his vacation in Argentina to fly all the way to California for a few hours just to influence Aldridge to play one more year with him. Ain't going to make a difference anyways what he says.

I don't want to jinx anything when it comes to our chances to land LA, but I'm extremely confident right now things will work out for the best by this weekend :toast

Hope you're right bro!:toast

[cjw]

Hope you're right bro!:toast

You can't read too much into 140 characters. After all, his name, RC's and Coyote's may not have fit!

[SpurPadre]

Manu will be back trust me :lol he has no real reason to end his vacation in Argentina to fly all the way to California for a few hours just to influence Aldridge to play one more year with him. Ain't going to make a difference anyways what he says.

I don't want to jinx anything when it comes to our chances to land LA, but I'm extremely confident right now things will work out for the best by this weekend :toast

THIS.

[G-Dawgg]

Looks like LaMarcus Aldridge is coming to the Spurs. Apparently he's already shopping for a house in San Antonio...

http://national.suntimes.com/nba/7/72/1383229/lamarcus-aldridge-looking-for-house-san-antonio

[TMTTRIO]

Him choosing to release a statement on returning or not to his local paper is pretty damning evidence that he's calling it. Sucks cause I think with low managed minutes, he can still be a force as a facilitator.

Manu was tweeting pictures of his boys tonight and mentioned nothing about basketball so I would say he's done.

[Sean Cagney]

LMA > injury prone pussy
He plays with a fractured hand and toughs it out, Splitter hurts his calf and misses half the year.

[wildchild]

My pitch if I'm SA:

o Come play along with a legend. One who is willing to sacrafice a ton of money because he thinks you are worth it.

o Not only that, Tim will talk about how David did this for him. How he convinced him the Spurs way was the best way and that he could not only win, but truly love what he does. Something special. This is Tim's moment to pass the torch to LMA and hopefully ride off into the sunset like David did: The ultimate teammate and a champion.

o This management and coach care about not only surrounding you with talent to compete, but prolonging your career. It will be demanding. Spurs will be good with or without you, but it's worth it to win and play for a franchise that truly is different.

o There's a great balance of future building blocks and ability to win now alongside Tim/TP/Pop (not Kawhi? only in the future?)

Then you can see the story 1 year from now - with Tim holding another finals trophy - announcing his retirement as a champion. One that was ready to go out on top, but making the sure the franchise was in as good of hands as possible before he left. The ultimate franchise player. Teammate. Winner.


I'd like to know about the pressure to replace Tim Duncan, to sacrifice his stats under Spurs system, to sacrifice 27 m for sign with the Spurs...


“He has tons of respect for coach Popovich,” a source told ESPN.

He wouldn’t be the first. Opponents see how the Spurs respond to Popovich, and how the Spurs react as a team. There are probably times they wish they were part of something like that, especially when their own franchise isn’t as smartly run.

But it’s one thing to want to be coached — it’s another to actually give in to it. Even the Spurs have balked at times with Popovich.

Manu Ginobili often wanted to let his instincts take him where coaching couldn’t, and Tim Duncan could be stubborn. Both followed instruction and embraced a group dynamic, however, because of who they are.

Aldridge appears that way on the court, and perhaps that’s all that matters. But there are also reports in Portland that he felt overshadowed, first by Brandon Roy and later by Damian Lillard.

If Aldridge does come to San Antonio, he will face a sticky situation that would challenge a fragile ego.
He will follow Duncan as the franchise’s premier big man, but he can never be better than Duncan. And he will play next to Kawhi Leonard, whom Popovich has already called the future face of the franchise.

Is Aldridge ready for that? Is he ready for the responsibility, to “be pushed,” to join what he has admired from afar?

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/columnists/buck_harvey/article/Does-Aldridge-fit-He-will-let-Spurs-know-6356868.php?t=b7c5dd6993&cmpid=twitter-premium

[Sean Cagney]

Looks like LaMarcus Aldridge is coming to the Spurs. Apparently he's already shopping for a house in San Antonio...

http://national.suntimes.com/nba/7/72/1383229/lamarcus-aldridge-looking-for-house-san-antonio

Ehhhh, just more speculation IMO. I won't get excited until I see him say he is signing and puts the pen on the dotted line.

[BatManu20]

Looks like LaMarcus Aldridge is coming to the Spurs. Apparently he's alreadyhttp://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#27019119) shopping for a house in San Antonio...

http://national.suntimes.com/nba/7/72/1383229/lamarcus-aldridge-looking-for-house-san-antonio


Just speculation. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, tbh.

[313]

He plays with a fractured hand and toughs it out, Splitter hurts his calf and misses half the year.

It was his shooting hand to right? What an alpha.

I won't come down too hard on Splitter, it's not really his fault he's so brittle, but I'd much rather have LMA

[BatManu20]

Anyone know if most of these July 1st free agent meetings usually happen straight after midnight, or do most of them usually happen later in the morning 9am onwards or so?

The Lakers are meeting with Aldridge in L.A. tomorrow night (Tues.) at 9 pm PST (12:00 am EST), so they're literally beginning at the stroke of midnight. The other teams (including Spurs) are meeting with him on Wednesday. So they're not wasting any time.

[Sean Cagney]

It was his shooting hand to right? What an alpha.

I won't come down too hard on Splitter, it's not really his fault he's so brittle, but I'd much rather have LMA

Agreed. I actually do like Splitter when he is healthy and playing as he is a good player no doubt and helps the team out but he is fragile as shit.

[houston spurs fan]

LA concerns me. His agent is out if LA he has a home there. Really not worried about any team but the Lakers. Bright lights baby.

[Sean Cagney]

LA concerns me. His agent is out if LA he has a home there. Really not worried about any team but the Lakers. Bright lights baby.

Man if they get him and cut the Spurs off there I can hate them even more! If that is even possible. The Mavs would be a close second if they got him, would despise them and that bum Cuban after they got him saying we are title contenders now and blah blah blah, the hype.

[Uriel]

There were reports that Aldridge was selling his house in Portland. People here said we shouldn't read too much into it. Shortly after, reports came out saying Aldridge was leaving the Blazers.

Now there are reports Aldridge is looking for houses in San Antonio. People here are saying we shouldn't read too much into. Shortly after, reports come out that the Spurs are frontrunners to sign Aldridge.

How many signs do people need to become convinced he's coming to San Antonio?

[FireMicoHalili]

Somehow I feel like the Spurs end up with virtually nothing. They bring the whole squad back and add some new pieces slated to improve within the system.

[Budkin]

This thread will be another classic when LMA signs with the Lakers or Mavs.

[Ice009]

The Lakers are meeting with Aldridge in L.A. tomorrow night (Tues.) at 9 pm PST (12:00 am EST), so they're literally beginning at the stroke of midnight. The other teams (including Spurs) are meeting with him on Wednesday. So they're not wasting any time.

Thanks. So they're all meeting him after 12:00AM Wednesday? So most of the meetings will take place very early in the AM?

[Axegrinder]

There were reports that Aldridge was selling his house in Portland. People here said we shouldn't read too much into it. Shortly after, reports came out saying Aldridge was leaving the Blazers.

Now there are reports Aldridge is looking for houses in San Antonio. People here are saying we shouldn't read too much into. Shortly after, reports come out that the Spurs are frontrunners to sign Aldridge.

How many signs do people need to become convinced he's coming to San Antonio? Very old news that "his" portland house was a rental owned by Damon Stoudemire and it was DS wanting to put it on market...so ya, CAN'T read anything into that one

[Axegrinder]

Thanks. So they're all meeting him after 12:00AM Wednesday? So most of the meetings will take place very early in the AM?LA sees him Tuesday, Rox Wed. am then Spurs are 3rd...and the rest could all be done wednesday or thursday. LMA has said he wants process to go quickly. All meetings in Los Angeles probably at LMA's house there

[benfti]

explain this to me people, why are people talking about trading Patty, when CoJo is on almost the same money?

Plus, Patty is friends with LMA, has been for a long time.

[Axegrinder]

explain this to me people, why are people talking about trading Patty, when CoJo is on almost the same money?

Plus, Patty is friends with LMA, has been for a long time.Patty is one of our few players on contract..CoJo is free agent

[admiralsnackbar]

explain this to me people, why are people talking about trading Patty, when CoJo is on almost the same money? Patty is perceived as having more subjective trade value across the league. Whether that's true (or whether the FO seeks to capitalize on it if it is) remains to be seen.

[Fireball]

How many signs do people need to become convinced he's coming to San Antonio? His sign on the dotted line of a Spurs contract ... nothing else

[Rapper]

It's official

LMA won't join the spurs, both of the Raptors and Lakers can offer him a 3 years 80 millions+ contract and LMA will go to Toronto for meeting with the Raptors organization and All he wants is money not a ring.

Hey spurs fans to be honest if you were LMA would you join the spurs? Hell No !

[Axegrinder]

It's official

LMA won't join the spurs, both of the Raptors and Lakers can offer him a 3 years 80 millions+ contract and LMA will go to Toronto for meeting with the Raptors organization and All he wants is money not a ring.

Hey spurs fans to be honest if you were LMA would you join the spurs? Hell No !Drunk much? You should just log off

[heyheymymy]

There were reports that Aldridge was selling his house in Portland. People here said we shouldn't read too much into it. Shortly after, reports came out saying Aldridge was leaving the Blazers.

Now there are reports Aldridge is looking for houses in San Antonio. People here are saying we shouldn't read too much into. Shortly after, reports come out that the Spurs are frontrunners to sign Aldridge.

How many signs do people need to become convinced he's coming to San Antonio?

exactly.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

It's official

LMA won't join the spurs, both of the Raptors and Lakers can offer him a 3 years 80 millions+ contract and LMA will go to Toronto for meeting with the Raptors organization and All he wants is money not a ring.


:lmao

[Rapper]

LaMarcus Aldridge to visit Raptors this week, report says

Sporting News By Sporting News

The free agent and four-time NBA All-Star reportedly plans on meeting with the Raptors this week.
The NBA season is over, but the NBA's free-agent season is about to heat up. Few names are hotter than Trail Blazers forward LaMarcus Aldridge.
The four-time NBA All-Star reportedly plans on meeting with the Raptors this week.

Several teams are thought to be contenders for Aldridge, most notably the Lakers, Mavericks and Spurs. The Raptors don't have the tradition of the other teams, but they do have a lot of cap space.
The Raptors won the Atlantic Division last season with a 49-33 record but were swept by the fifth-seeded Wizards in the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs.
Aldridge, 29, averaged a career-high 24.3 points last season with the Trail Blazers. Portland general manager Neil Olshey, despite reports to the contrary, says Aldridge hasn't told the team he won't be back.

[Rapper]

An unexpected suitor has reportedly emerged in the LaMarcus Aldridge sweepstakes. The free agent big man will allow the Toronto Raptors to make their pitch in a meeting once free agency officially begins, according to Shams Charania of Real GM.

Aldridge "has an interest" in the Raptors, per Charania, though it's unclear how serious. Aldridge reportedly told the Blazers he won't re-sign, and reports suggest that the Spurs, Lakers and Mavericks are front-runners for his services. The Rockets may also enter the picture.

However, the Raptors could be a viable threat. The draft day trade of Greivis Vasquez to Milwaukee ensured they will have the ability to create maximum cap room. They must renounce the rights to key free agents Amir Johnson and Lou Williams in order to officially create that room, but they will likely do so if they have a real shot to sign Aldridge.

Adding Aldridge to a core of Kyle Lowry, DeMar DeRozan, Terrence Ross, Jonas Valanciunas and Patrick Patterson could push Toronto out of the dreaded middle of the Eastern Conference. The Raptors finished 49-33 last season before being swept by the Washington Wizards in the first round of the playoffs.

Toronto is also attempting to clear enough cap space to make a run at Kevin Durant in 2016. They will likely have the room to sign Durant even if Aldridge arrives, though it may cost Toronto Ross and Valanciunas.

[Axegrinder]

Bet ya $1000 he aint signin in freakin canada "Rapper"

[BatManu20]

I buy it.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIuI3NCWIAAYt3b.jpg

[FlAVaK]

BDL - Kelly Dwyer: Your 2015 NBA free agent primer (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/your-2015-nba-free-agent-primer-040238775.html)


LaMarcus Aldridge, unrestricted free agent

Out of seemingly nowhere, the once-assumed Trail Blazer for Life is all but assured of leaving PDX after nearly a decade with the team. It’s a sad parting, to be sure, but one that also might be the best for all involved. LaMarcus turns 30 in July, and though he should be able to work his touch-happy game deep into his 30s, he is also going to likely turn in declining seasons over the course of the contract he’ll sign this month. It won’t be a dramatic fall-off, he’ll probably be an All-Star for the length of this new deal, but this is worth noting.

Potential suitors are more than a little aware of this, and they could not care less. LMA would be a killer addition to a heady team like the San Antonio Spurs, and even a pairing with an aging Dirk Nowitzki in Dallas would still result in some beautiful basketball. A scenario that would send him to Toronto is incredibly intriguing. The Knicks and Lakers will make their play, but if Aldridge were in it solely for the money he’d stick it out with a fat contract in Portland (who could pay him $28 million more over the course of a max deal, or even higher amounts if he took a one-year deal and opted out in 2016). The guy wants to win.

(Yeah. Watch him sign with the Lakers.)

Where he should sign: San Antonio.

Where he’ll probably sign: Los Angeles Lakers.

[lcroock]

Just speculation. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, tbh.

Guys claim TX residences during the summer to avoid state taxes. shaq had a house in Htown during his playing days lol.

[Maddog]

My overall impression - based on absolutely no facts- he is not coming. Portland or LA. Buck Harvey column today reinforces my view that while he wants win, money and "exposure/limelight" will sway him differently.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Are Parker and Aldridge good friends?

They did attend the Kevin Hart show together this past month in Boston, so they obviously know each other.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Yep. Woj just said that he's hearing it's either Aldridge to the Spurs or taking the extra year to stay in Portland.

That is what I said a month ago. No CONTENDING TEAM has the cap space to sign LMA. Dallas is just a horrible fit with Dirk. The whole purpose of him leaving Portland IMO is to be closer to his son, WHICH HE LIVES IN SA.

It's the Spurs or just staying in Portland. All this other stuff is just fanfare. Why would he go to a team that is going to contend for awhile making less than he would in Portland and also he won't barely see his son during the year for the next 4-5 years.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Manu not flying in. Gotta say he looks done.

Well, considering he is with his family in Argentina (like he spends every summer), that is an 15 hour flight to LA. Don't blame him for not coming. I am sure the Spurs told him to rest up and relax this summer for one final ride.

[hater]

Spurs won't land Lamar. With amy luck they sign the Ginobilly twins as backup PGs and call it a successful offseason

[hsxvvd]

Pop on courting free agents: "I’m not calling anyone at midnight. I’ll be in bed. And if that’s the difference, then I don’t want them" #NBA

Just read this on twitter.... great call!

[Killakobe81]

That is what I said a month ago. No CONTENDING TEAM has the cap space to sign LMA. Dallas is just a horrible fit with Dirk. The whole purpose of him leaving Portland IMO is to be closer to his son, WHICH HE LIVES IN SA.

It's the Spurs or just staying in Portland. All this other stuff is just fanfare. Why would he go to a team that is going to contend for awhile making less than he would in Portland and also he won't barely see his son during the year for the next 4-5 years.

Congrats, dont want him in L.A. at max money ... I prefer we go with youth and cheaper vets (tyson/Danny green) and wait for a truly big fish ... for Spurs it makes sense. you guys still have the title window open.

But God bless if you think a LMA/Kiwi one two punch is winning a title. When Tim leaves the the LOB's go with him ...

[spurspokesman]

Meh, Leonard wouldn't say a single word anyway.

Took the words out of my head tbh.

[Killakobe81]

Pop on courting free agents: "I’m not calling anyone at midnight. I’ll be in bed. And if that’s the difference, then I don’t want them" #NBA

Just read this on twitter.... great call!

Pop is a boss. Love that guy. Id rather steal Pop from SA than LMA in free agency ...

[spurspokesman]

No one deserves a ring. I have always been a big Dice fan, but he came up short in Game 7 2005 when he could have had one with Detroit. I was just watching that game today and he was pretty invisible when on the floor in the fourth. Porter had his shot in 2001 and got destroyed by Fisher. Nobody would care if one of these guys got a Mitch Richmond 2002 ring, just like no one remembers Glenn Robinson's 2005 ring (even though Robinson actually played a pretty nice role in bringing the Spurs back from down 17-4 in the first quarter of Game 1 vs Detroit).

I can agree with these points.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Congrats, dont want him in L.A. at max money ... I prefer we go with youth and cheaper vets (tyson/Danny green) and wait for a truly big fish ... for Spurs it makes sense. you guys still have the title window open.

But God bless if you think a LMA/Kiwi one two punch is winning a title. When Tim leaves the the LOB's go with him ...

In the WC, this is true. With TP aging, the Spurs need to find another piece once Duncan hangs it up for good to be contenders again. But at least they have a legitimate shot of keep on extending their 50 game season winning streak and playoff streak. Without Duncan, believe me, I would be ecstatic if that is the case.

Spurs would have some huge shoes to fill once Duncan retires.

[Seventyniner]

Guys claim TX residences during the summer to avoid state taxes. shaq had a house in Htown during his playing days lol.

Stars like Shaq can have houses in many cities. Aldridge himself had houses in LA and Portland and perhaps in other places.

A player's state of residence doesn't matter for state taxes. They pay taxes based on where they play games. Playing for a Texas team helps because they play 45 games a year in Texas (41 at home, 2 on the road against each other Texas team), while playing for a high-state-tax team like the Warriors means they play 47 games a year in California. A Spur, though, still pays California state tax on 1/82 of his salary for every game he plays in California. His state of residency doesn't matter at all.

[doobs]

Stars like Shaq can have houses in many cities. Aldridge himself had houses in LA and Portland and perhaps in other places.

A player's state of residence doesn't matter for state taxes. They pay taxes based on where they play games. Playing for a Texas team helps because they play 45 games a year in Texas (41 at home, 2 on the road against each other Texas team), while playing for a high-state-tax team like the Warriors means they play 47 games a year in California. A Spur, though, still pays California state tax on 1/82 of his salary for every game he plays in California. His state of residency doesn't matter at all.

It matters for endorsement income. I would venture a guess that the majority of high-profile professional athletes with endorsement income establish residency in no income tax states, particularly Florida.

[Sean Cagney]

In the WC, this is true. With TP aging, the Spurs need to find another piece once Duncan hangs it up for good to be contenders again. But at least they have a legitimate shot of keep on extending their 50 game season winning streak and playoff streak. Without Duncan, believe me, I would be ecstatic if that is the case.

Spurs would have some huge shoes to fill once Duncan retires.
You cant fill Tims shoes... He is a rare talent that comes along once in a lifetime.

[Richie]

Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) I know you've spoken about sign and trade before but I've just seen Zach Lowes piece on Grantland and he talks about base year compensation.

Edit: This was all a bunch of nonsense, removing it so as not to confuse anyone

I'm such a CBA geek, I love it when I find out some new trick. Not sure if I'm 100% right about it though.

[DPG21920]

Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) I know you've spoken about sign and trade before but I've just seen Zach Lowes piece on Grantland and he talks about base year compensation.

Edit: Wait, I looked at the wrong salary, lemme rewrite this

Don't think that is correct. Your premise is correct if the numbers were, but LA BYC is off - Luckily BYC doesn't come into play for LMA I don't think..

Also, Richie, don't think I've said this before, but :tu. You have been a really good poster on ST - appreciate it.

[Chinook]

Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) I know you've spoken about sign and trade before but I've just seen Zach Lowes piece on Grantland and he talks about base year compensation.

In essence, Aldridge salary for trade purposes stays at his current $14.1m. Sending out Splitter and Reggie Williams unguaranteed comes to $9.5m, meaning the most we can take back as a non taxpaying team is 150% + $100k, explicitly $14.25m which is fits Aldridge perfectly.

If you wouldn't mind linking me to that piece? I do know that BYC is essentially irrelevant, since Portland is well under the cap right now. Also, Aldridge made a bit over $16 Million according to Sham, so he's not a BYC player anyhow. Even so BYC affects the sending team, not the receiving team.

[Richie]

If you wouldn't mind linking me to that piece? I do know that BYC is essentially irrelevant, since Portland is well under the cap right now. Also, Aldridge made a bit over $16 Million according to Sham, so he's not a BYC player anyhow. Even so BYC affects the sending team, not the receiving team.

I dunno it's all a bit confusing but Zach Lowe mentions it in footnote 3 here http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-eight-biggest-nba-free-agency-questions/

It worked almost too well when I thought Aldridge was making $14.2m which he made in 13-14, but his salary last year was $16m which means his max ($18.9m) is short of the 20% pay rise you need to trigger the base year compensation clause during a sign and trade.

Nevermind.

[Richie]

I'm also unsure what CBAFAQ means by 'over the cap'. The Blazers are technically well over the cap if you include the cap holds for all their free agents but I'm not sure if that's exactly what they mean.

[DPG21920]

I dunno it's all a bit confusing but Zach Lowe mentions it in footnote 3 here http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-eight-biggest-nba-free-agency-questions/

It worked almost too well when I thought Aldridge was making $14.2m which he made in 13-14, but his salary last year was $16m which means his max ($18.9m) is short of the 20% pay rise you need to trigger the base year compensation clause during a sign and trade.

Nevermind.

:lol Don't worry about it. The good news is the part you wrote about taking back salaries has nothing to do with BYC. Like we said, not only does BYC not matter for LMA, but even if it did, it's about the team sending out the player, not receiving. But the Spurs in a S&T can still do what you said - that doesn't change.

[Richie]

Don't think that is correct. Your premise is correct if the numbers were, but LA BYC is off - Luckily BYC doesn't come into play for LMA I don't think..

Also, Richie, don't think I've said this before, but :tu. You have been a really good poster on ST - appreciate it.

Mate I just love cap gymnastics. To me it's just a fascinating puzzle to be solved.

[DPG21920]

Mate I just love cap gymnastics. To me it's just a fascinating puzzle to be solved.

Agreed. I love the business of basketball almost as much as I love watching basketball. I could put a little more effort into the finer points of the CBA, but it's already fun with the working knowledge I have.

:lmao I just hope there's not another lockout and massive changes to the CBA

[houston spurs fan]

:lol Don't worry about it. The good news is the part you wrote about taking back salaries has nothing to do with BYC. Like we said, not only does BYC not matter for LMA, but even if it did, it's about the team sending out the player, not receiving. But the Spurs in a S&T can still do what you said - that doesn't change.
Agree, RC and his team have already worked out all the math. They wouldn't be sending in the cavalry if they thought money was going to be an issue. He can get more only with the Blazers, but that isn't as big of a factor this year with the new imminent tv deal. Weather it's with LA or SA look for him to sign a deal that allows him to opt out in a couple of years and get bigger money...

[Chinook]

I dunno it's all a bit confusing but Zach Lowe mentions it in footnote 3 here http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-eight-biggest-nba-free-agency-questions/

It worked almost too well when I thought Aldridge was making $14.2m which he made in 13-14, but his salary last year was $16m which means his max ($18.9m) is short of the 20% pay rise you need to trigger the base year compensation clause during a sign and trade.

Nevermind.

He might have been talking about Green, who would almost certainly be BYC eligible in a sign-and-trade if the Spurs were to not make the S&T the priority.

[Dre_7]

I would love to land LMA but I am not getting my hopes up.

Whatever happens, I will be happy. Either they get LMA and have the best frontcourt in the league, or they re-sign DG and continue to have the best perimeter defensive duo in the league. It is a win-win situation for SA IMO.

[Mugen]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but retaining Aldridge and Green becomes a hell of a lot easier if Holt just bites the bullet and pays tax for this upcoming season (considering the cap rise next summer).

Salary dump Mills + Tiago, sign Aldridge, and then go over the cap to retain Green? Is that possible?

If Holt cheaps out after all Timmy has done for this team, then him and the front office should be crucified tbh....

[Richie]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but retaining Aldridge and Green becomes a hell of a lot easier if Holt just bites the bullet and pays tax for this upcoming season (considering the cap rise next summer).

Salary dump Mills + Tiago, sign Aldridge, and then go over the cap to retain Green? Is that possible?

If Holt cheaps out after all Timmy has done for this team, then him and the front office should be crucified tbh....

I think this is a foregone conclusion if Aldridge signs. The question, again if Aldridge decides to come, is do you do it via free agency or sign and trade. In a sign and trade we're hard capped to around $85m and Aldridge would have to sign for 3 guaranteed years which he might not want to do, however we would be able to retain Joseph and Belinelli's bird rights. Those bird rights won't mean anything if they want to get MLE level money though since we'll be hard capped.

If we go the free agency route he could sign a 2+1 which might be preferable to him but if he wants the max we'd likely have to give up both Mills and Josephs bird rights along with Splitter. Him taking slightly less than his max ($17.9m) means we can get him and not decimate out backup point guard rotation but that might not be good enough for him.

Again though, maybe Jospeh takes a lower salary than Mills meaning we can trade Mills, sign Joseph and squeeze out and extra few dollars for Aldridge. Really, there's so many balls in the air that it's impossible to predict.

[Chinook]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but retaining Aldridge and Green becomes a hell of a lot easier if Holt just bites the bullet and pays tax for this upcoming season (considering the cap rise next summer).

Salary dump Mills + Tiago, sign Aldridge, and then go over the cap to retain Green? Is that possible?

If Holt cheaps out after all Timmy has done for this team, then him and the front office should be crucified tbh....

The only way the tax comes into play is if the Spurs sign-and-trade for Aldridge. If the Spurs use cap space, they won't get near the tax, but they will certainly be limited on what they can spend much more tightly than Holt's wallet.

[ducks]

holt has paid tax before

[BatManu20]

Trade Porker. Retain everyone. Win a Championship.


tbh.

[rjv]

You cant fill Tims shoes... He is a rare talent that comes along once in a lifetime.

ditto

[hater]

I would love to land LMA but I am not getting my hopes up.

Whatever happens, I will be happy. Either they get LMA and have the best frontcourt in the league, or they re-sign DG and continue to have the best perimeter defensive duo in the league. It is a win-win situation for SA IMO.

a 1st round exit from our "best perimeter defensive duo" is win win????

[hater]

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo 15h15 hours ago
Spurs coach Gregg Popovic, forward Tim Duncan & guard Tony Parker expected to attend LaMarcus Aldridge meeting, a source told Yahoo Sports.

[hater]

NBA Legion ‏@MySportsLegion 15h15 hours ago
The Lakers aren't wasting time, they'll meet with LaMarcus Aldridge at 12:01 AM tomorrow night. (LA Times)

[hater]

NBA Legion ‏@MySportsLegion 22h22 hours ago
Carmelo Anthony has reportedly already called LaMarcus Aldridge and DeAndre Jordan to try and recruit them to New York. (@Chris_Broussard)

:lol

[pgardn]

Trade Porker. Retain everyone. Win a Championship.


tbh.

Who plays PG on your championship team, "tbh" ?

[Dre_7]

a 1st round exit from our "best perimeter defensive duo" is win win????

First round exit was not because of Green or Kawhi. They were two of the three best defenders on the floor in that seires. The loss was due to Tony Parker being non-existent (thanks to three injuries). Also, the Spurs BARELY lost in game 7. If Parker shows up just a little bit the Spurs win the series, so yeah, keeping Green and an ever improving Kawhi is a win-win. Especially if Parker has a bounce back year, which I think he will.

[Dre_7]

Splitter being hurt also was a huge factor in that series.

[hater]

First round exit was not because of Green or Kawhi. They were two of the three best defenders on the floor in that seires. The loss was due to Tony Parker being non-existent (thanks to three injuries). Also, the Spurs BARELY lost in game 7. If Parker shows up just a little bit the Spurs win the series, so yeah, keeping Green and an ever improving Kawhi is a win-win. Especially if Parker has a bounce back year, which I think he will.

So if Parker shows up just a little we pass round 1. then what? Parker needs to recover more than a little bit for us to be real contenders. Not banking on that. IMO Porker has carried this team for too long.

We need a new franchise player if we want to keep competing. (and no Kawhi is no franchise player, he's a great 2nd banana thou)

[BillMc]

Well, considering he is with his family in Argentina (like he spends every summer), that is an 15 hour flight to LA. Don't blame him for not coming. I am sure the Spurs told him to rest up and relax this summer for one final ride.

You've got a good point, but Parker came in from China for it. So while its not necessarily a bad sign, it's not opportunity for a good sign that didn't happen.

[look_at_g_shred]

Maybe they didn't invite manu because he's still unsure if he wants to return and they're letting him think it over.

[lmbebo]

Heard a quote of Pop on Mad Dog Radio.

He was asked about being the first team to meet with LMA at like 12:01 am. He said he would be in bed sleeping. That if any player needs him to be meeting with him at midnight, then that player isn't worth it.

[Dre_7]

So if Parker shows up just a little we pass round 1. then what? Parker needs to recover more than a little bit for us to be real contenders. Not banking on that. IMO Porker has carried this team for too long.

We need a new franchise player if we want to keep competing. (and no Kawhi is no franchise player, he's a great 2nd banana thou)


That is where you and I differ. I think Kawhi can be a number one. It would be better for the Spurs if he were to be a number two option, but the Spurs cannot hold a gun to LMA's head and force him to come to SA. Like I said I would LOVE to get Aldridge. I would lose my mind and probably dance around. If the Spurs do not get him though, I am not going to say the Spurs are done. I trust PATFO to retool around Kawhi if LMA turns the Spurs down. I don't think it is Aldridge or bust.

And to answer your question, if the Spurs win round one, I think they beat Houston, Golden State, and Clevland.

[hater]

That is where you and I differ. I think Kawhi can be a number one.

no he can't. he's already proven it. He lacks the playmaking abilities, dominant post game and overall leadership a franchise player requires.



It would be better for the Spurs if he were to be a number two option, but the Spurs cannot hold a gun to LMA's head and force him to come to SA. Like I said I would LOVE to get Aldridge. I would lose my mind and probably dance around. If the Spurs do not get him though, I am not going to say the Spurs are done. I trust PATFO to retool around Kawhi if LMA turns the Spurs down. I don't think it is Aldridge or bust.

agree. but we cannot call ourselves "contenders" (on paper) come game 1 of the season unless we have an Aldridge caliber player on the roster.



And to answer your question, if the Spurs win round one, I think they beat Houston, Golden State, and Clevland.

I don't see how we would have beaten GS. (or a healthy cleveland, whos to say Irving woulda injured himself in game 1?)

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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[Darius Bieber]

Nice, up to page 32.

[hater]

so if Manu retires this all would be easier?

what is he waiting for?

[Dre_7]

no he can't. he's already proven it. He lacks the playmaking abilities, dominant post game and overall leadership a franchise player requires.


He has just started to scratch the surface of what he can do. Up until last year he was basically defering to the big three.


agree. but we cannot call ourselves "contenders" (on paper) come game 1 of the season unless we have an Aldridge caliber player on the roster.


That may be the case, but I really do not rely on whether or not the Spurs are considered contenders "on paper." They have been written off "on paper" so many times in the past, but they are still here, and still relevent, and still in title picture talk in 2015. Any team with Pop as HC and Duncan on the floor cannot be written off come game one of the season.

[look_at_g_shred]

One of the discussions has to be how much they can offer him. So the Spurs have to have numbers in place right? IE- Duncan, Manu, Green

[Aztecfan03]

So I know this is probably a given but, starting role right? :lol
starting PF. Tim starts at C.

[BillMc]

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This was a great read. I love the loophole they mention. Thanks for posting the link.

[Chinook]

This was a great read. I love the loophole they mention. Thanks for posting the link.

It's a pretty bad read, actually. There are so many cap nuances they overlook that make it harder and easier at the same time.

[hater]

He has just started to scratch the surface of what he can do. Up until last year he was basically defering to the big three.


You can say the same for every young good player. But most times they reached their ceiling.



That may be the case, but I really do not rely on whether or not the Spurs are considered contenders "on paper." They have been written off "on paper" so many times in the past, but they are still here, and still relevent, and still in title picture talk in 2015. Any team with Pop as HC and Duncan on the floor cannot be written off come game one of the season.

Sure. But this is a forum and its the summer. Our chances of being a true contender next season are astronomically higher with Lamar signing.

[BillMc]

It's a pretty bad read, actually. There are so many cap nuances they overlook that make it harder and easier at the same time.

I trust in you on this subject Chinook. But what do you think of their essential point of signing TD for the minimum this year in order to sign LMA, with a wink wink deal he signs another 2 year contract for $20 million next year, though he'll only play the first year of the second contract. So, in effect Timmy would get the minimum + 20 million for playing 2 years (on 2 contracts totally 3 years time).

If Tim were to do this, they say, we can probably choose to keep all but one of Mills, Splitter, Boris and Danny. (It seems Mills would be most likely to go, as he won't be as useful when Manu is gone). Is their argument viable?

[Dre_7]

Our chances of being a true contender next season are astronomically higher with Lamar signing.

Absolutely, which is why I want the Spurs to sign him.

[RD2191]

Absolutely, which is why I want the Spurs to sign him.
Odom is trash. You guys are idiots.

[RD2191]

Joke by the way.

[Aztecfan03]

Joke by the way.
I was thinking of posting something similar when i saw chinook call him Lamar.

[RD2191]

I was thinking of posting something similar when i saw chinook call him Lamar.
:lol

[Sean Cagney]

Trade Porker. Retain everyone. Win a Championship.


tbh.
Not if u start Co jo... Better get a starter at point in return.

[Beaverfuzz]

First round exit was not because of Green or Kawhi. They were two of the three best defenders on the floor in that seires. The loss was due to Tony Parker being non-existent (thanks to three injuries). Also, the Spurs BARELY lost in game 7. If Parker shows up just a little bit the Spurs win the series, so yeah, keeping Green and an ever improving Kawhi is a win-win. Especially if Parker has a bounce back year, which I think he will.

And again, game 7 SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED! Series was lost in game 6.

[cjw]

And to answer your question, if the Spurs win round one, I think they beat Houston, Golden State, and Clevland.

Spurs and Clippers were playing at a higher level in their series than any other teams reached during the entire playoffs. But kudos to GS for having the best regular season and getting an easier draw as a result. Can't fault them for that.

[K...]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but lma had to meet with Lakers and raptors for due diligence. So while we and his agent can
Look at capspace and statements, only a formal meeting can confer an offer... ? So if spurs cheap out he'd have a contingency. I imagine these meetings will be quick. $, roster talk, etc. You don't have a late night meeting over a million dollar contract. The Lakers first due to Pacific time zone and being desperate to appear relevant.

So theoretically lma could have already picked but is just going through the formality of getting other teams to show their best offers. Hopefully the spurs can get a discount to avoid the team being gutted.

[NASpurs]

Let's do this

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[RD2191]

Let's do this

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:lmao

[Mugen]

go thread go, 40 pages by tomorrow morning :flag:

[ducks]

for alridge pay to be the same as Portland the spurs do not have to offer alridge the max because of the tax

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Listening to the Lowe Post podcast with Zach Lowe and Marc Stein, and they mention that since February there has been the idea of Aldridge going to the Spurs because he's very interested in being the guy that has to fill Duncan's shoes.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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If he doesn't get a deal as big as rumored, that's a lifesaver for the Spurs.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

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If he doesn't get a deal as big as rumored, that's a lifesaver for the Spurs.

DG is worth it. He is system player, although a very good one. IMO 8 mil a year is FMV for Green. However, since he did save the Spurs some cap when took 1.5 to 2 mil less a year to resign with the Spurs in his last contract, Spurs should give him a legacy contract and bump it up to 10 max. Anything beyond that would be asinine. But grant it, his defense on Curry or Klay is what gives the Spurs in that matchup and they will be the Spurs biggest hump next season, along with a healthy OKC.

[Dre_7]

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If he doesn't get a deal as big as rumored, that's a lifesaver for the Spurs.

If SA could get LMA and keep Green I think I would would loss my freaking mind! That would amazing!

[AFBlue]

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If he doesn't get a deal as big as rumored, that's a lifesaver for the Spurs.

It only takes one offer.

[stxspurs]

It only takes one offer.
Pistons could offer alot..He would be an idiot to go there.

[bklynspursfan]

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[Beaverfuzz]

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Goodbye Splitter if that happens. Interesting.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

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It's no secret that the Cavs need additional backcourt scoring after Irving. It has to be a deal with Mills plus Diaw or Splitter.

[ducks]

Could be sign and trade with green that would suck though

[goliath]

DG is worth it. He is system player, although a very good one. IMO 8 mil a year is FMV for Green. However, since he did save the Spurs some cap when took 1.5 to 2 mil less a year to resign with the Spurs in his last contract, Spurs should give him a legacy contract and bump it up to 10 max. Anything beyond that would be asinine. But grant it, his defense on Curry or Klay is what gives the Spurs in that matchup and they will be the Spurs biggest hump next season, along with a healthy OKC.

Lowes post was if he is worth 8 figures (10 million) not 8 million

[hater]

It only takes one offer.

[monkeypunk]

It's no secret that the Cavs need additional backcourt scoring after Irving. It has to be a deal with Mills plus Diaw or Splitter.

Mills on the Cavs would be a nightmare with Lebron driving and dishing.

And I would drive to SA and kick RC in his fucking sack if he trades Diaw.

[Dre_7]

Mills on the Cavs would be a nightmare with Lebron driving and dishing.

And I would drive to SA and kick RC in his fucking sack if he trades Diaw.

I would rather lose Diaw than Mills honestly.

And Mills on the Cavs would be scary!

[Mugen]

Mills and Tiago or Diaw to the Cavs makes them a very, very scary team next year tbh.

[ducks]

Diaw will work on his threes this offseason
Also alridge hits corner threes

[ducks]

Diaw is not tradable he only stays in shape for spurs

[gambit1990]

ugh, big fan of diaw and mills... diaw is more valuable. but man, mills can light it up!

[Mr. Body]

Could be sign and trade with green that would suck though

Danny Green on the Cavs this year, LeBron beats the Warriors.

[K...]

Why would the spurs salary dump tiago to the Cavs? Is that really the best deal? Wouldn't they need to sweeten the deal ? Maybe this is just a threat to Portland that they can't scuttle the spurs by raising the sign and trade.

[bklynspursfan]

It's no secret that the Cavs need additional backcourt scoring after Irving. It has to be a deal with Mills plus Diaw or Splitter.

Yea.. Wish it was Joseph though lol

[bklynspursfan]

ugh, big fan of diaw and mills... diaw is more valuable. but man, mills can light it up!

Same... Not to mention he's a helluva teammate (talking Mills)

[look_at_g_shred]

Who says that it's Tiago and someone else..what if it's just him

[Chinook]

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It's no secret that the Cavs need additional backcourt scoring after Irving. It has to be a deal with Mills plus Diaw or Splitter.

I don't think the Spurs would take the contract themselves. They probably want to have Cleveland trade it directly to Portland along with Reggie Williams and some incentives. Wouldn't love the deal, but if the Spurs could get LMA and stay over the cap with only losing Diaw, Mills and Williams, it's not a horrible trade-off, though it would make stashing their first-rounder look even worse.

[hater]

who the fuck is B Hayward?? yeah that sounds legit :rolleyes

[Chinook]

Who says that it's Tiago and someone else..what if it's just him

It's not Tiago at all. The Cavs have two centers in their rotation, Thompson, who's just a short center and want to play small as it is. It'd be for Diaw and potentially Patty, which is a better solution for the Spurs anyway. Maybe Christmas and a 2018 first as incentive.

[cjw]

Pistons could offer alot..He would be an idiot to go there.

Tons of cap space, even if Monroe is renounced. Drummond will get paid after this season, so now is the time for them to load up.

SVG did a great job at managing their cap situation. Given rising cap, $5.4mm of dead money each year to Josh Smith isn't all that bad.

[look_at_g_shred]

It's not Tiago at all. The Cavs have two centers in their rotation, Thompson, who's just a short center and want to play small as it is. It'd be for Diaw and potentially Patty, which is a better solution for the Spurs anyway. Maybe Christmas and a 2018 first as incentive.
So in this scenario, would it be easier to keep Green?

[Knoxxx]

Mills and Tiago or Diaw to the Cavs makes them a very, very scary team next year tbh.

That's not the point which I am sure you realize. Would you rather have Splitter + Mills or Aldridge + Green? That may be what we are coming down to here.

Straight up all along this has primarily been about swapping Splitter for Aldridge I thought. While the Spurs could somehow work out a way to bring everyone back and add Aldridge it appears (aside from Bellinelli I suppose), that seems to be a longshot.

I've been in the camp that Splitter is the most expendable all along since Aldridge would eat his minutes anyway. I am kind of indifferent between losing Splitter or Diaw, though I have a slight preference for keeping Diaw. He's more versatile and when he's on (not often enough last year) can be a real handful for teams inside.

When it comes down to worry about losing either one of Splitter or Diaw to gain Aldridge, that's a no brainer not to be worried about due to the net gain.

[Chinook]

So in this scenario, would it be easier to keep Green?

In like 95 percent of scenarios, it's just as easy to keep Green. The Spurs will just have to not want him for him to not be a Spur in 2015-2016.

[Mugen]

I mean, I'd do that trade easily if it meant the Spurs bringing in Aldridge and keeping Green. Just pointing out that Mills/Splitter makes Cleveland very good and even more of a virtual lock for the Finals next year.

[spurraider21]

if we trade diaw/mills instead of splitter/mills, isn't that just less we could offer to LMA?

[Knoxxx]

It's not Tiago at all. The Cavs have two centers in their rotation, Thompson, who's just a short center and want to play small as it is. It'd be for Diaw and potentially Patty, which is a better solution for the Spurs anyway. Maybe Christmas and a 2018 first as incentive.

If Anderson could be the Diaw replacement (gradually increasing role next few years) that could work out I suppose.

I will add via edit that if we kept Splitter and added Aldridge there is still a lot to like there. We are essentially then just swapping out Baynes for Aldridge at the cost of Anderson replacing the Diaw role. Then we still have Splitter around to make sure Tim doesn't have to log excessive minutes at center.

[K...]

If we trade diaw and mills, does anyone think we might still trade tiago? Tiago is too good to be benched and he can help keep Duncan's minutes down but If I got the right offer for splitter I might think about it. Still-Duncan and lma is a pretty thin frontcourt..

[ElNono]

It's not Tiago at all. The Cavs have two centers in their rotation, Thompson, who's just a short center and want to play small as it is. It'd be for Diaw and potentially Patty, which is a better solution for the Spurs anyway. Maybe Christmas and a 2018 first as incentive.

You don't know that, as the Cavs might not be the final destination on such a trade.

[Chinook]

You don't know that, as the Cavs might not be the final destination on such a trade.

You're right.

[look_at_g_shred]

Damn no more details yet? Assholes lol