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Pavlov
10-12-2019, 09:21 PM
:lmao called it on page 1
https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1183148769577181184?s=19:lmao hater is still trying to kill the witness when Dennison already confessed.
dabom6
10-12-2019, 09:28 PM
:lmao hater is still trying to kill the witness when Dennison already confessed.
:lol
benefactor
10-12-2019, 09:28 PM
:lmao hater is still trying to kill the witness when Dennison already confessed.
:lol Baghdad Bob
hater
10-12-2019, 09:40 PM
:lmao "the witness"
Was not even on the call :lmao :lmao :lmao
Pavlov
10-12-2019, 09:43 PM
:lmao "the witness"
Was not even on the call :lmao :lmao :lmao:lol still trying to apply full criminal procedure when Dennison already confessed
:lmao:lmao:lmao
hater
10-12-2019, 09:46 PM
:lmao "confessed"
Poor bastard demoshits now just making shit up :lmao
:lmao thinking this will amount to anything besides senate giving a big fuck you and keeping Trump Commander in Chief :lmao :lmao :lol
Called it on page 1 :tu
Pavlov
10-12-2019, 09:48 PM
:lmao "confessed"
Poor bastard demoshits now just making shit up :lmao
:lmao thinking this will amount to anything besides senate giving a big fuck you and keeping Trump Commander in Chief :lmao :lmao :lol
Called it on page 1 :tu:lmao flailing about trying to talk about everything but the actual issue
Called it :tu
hater
10-12-2019, 09:50 PM
OK then tell me when is senate going to convict Trump Chump?
What month will Trump cease to be president?
Pavlov
10-12-2019, 09:52 PM
OK then tell me when is senate going to convict Trump Chump?
What month will Trump cease to be president?When did I say Trump would be removed from office by the Senate?
I said the exact opposite.
:lmao you always have to make shit up
:lmao called it
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
hater
10-12-2019, 09:54 PM
So Trump is not getting impeached????
:lmao I agree and I called it on page 1 :tu
dabom7
10-12-2019, 09:54 PM
When did I say Trump would be removed from office by the Senate?
I said the exact opposite.
:lmao you always have to make shit up
:lmao called it
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao
Pavlov
10-12-2019, 09:55 PM
So Trump is not getting impeached????
:lmao I agree and I called it on page 1 :tu:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
You don't even know the difference between impeachment and a Senate trial.
:lol called it
:lol
dabom6
10-12-2019, 09:55 PM
:lmao
You don't need to hype my name brah. :lol
hater
10-12-2019, 09:56 PM
:lmao 91 pages of nothing burgers
This thread should have been closed after my page 1 post tbqh :tu
Pavlov
10-12-2019, 09:57 PM
:lmao 91 pages of nothing burgers
This thread should have been closed after my page 1 post tbqh :tuThen no one would've been able to know you have no idea what impeachment is.
:lmao
:lol
ducks
10-12-2019, 10:01 PM
RickyRay- 1 of 100 million Trump Trolls
RickyRayinGA
·
2h
Replying to
@GOPChairwoman
and
@1Bunny4T
Sad part is it appears
@ODNIgov
ICIG was in on this by changing the requirement to move such a complaint forward. He should be terminated, the form returned to original format. and
realDonaldTrump
should move swiftly to make it happen. Stop not firing people...
Pavlov
10-12-2019, 10:03 PM
Do Trumpistas ever lose track of all the conspiracies you have to believe?
ducks
10-13-2019, 12:46 AM
Do liberals ever tell the truth?
ElNono
10-13-2019, 01:02 AM
Do liberals ever tell the truth?
They tell you that you suck all the time, so yes.
LkrFan
10-13-2019, 08:21 AM
https://twitter.com/SoldierInWhite1/status/1183370360361750528?s=19
:lol
ducks
10-13-2019, 11:00 AM
Harry Reid: Trump Won't Be Easy To Beat in 2020
boutons_deux
10-13-2019, 01:33 PM
Rudy Giuliani Just Got Trump Impeached By Admitting The President Directed Ukraine Operation
While defending himself in the criminal investigation, Rudy Giuliani admitted that he was acting at the direction of Trump in Ukraine.
Mr. Giuliani said that federal prosecutors had no grounds to charge him with foreign lobbying disclosure violations because
he said he was acting on behalf of Mr. Trump,
not the Ukrainian prosecutor, Yuriy Lutsenko, when he collected the information on Ms. Yovanovitch and the others and relayed it to the American government and the news media.
“Look, you can try to contort anything into anything, but if they have any degree of objectivity or fairness,
it would be kind of ridiculous to say I was doing it on Lutsenko’s behalf when I was representing the president of the United States,”
Mr. Giuliani said. Mr. Lutsenko had chafed at Ms. Yovanovitch’s anticorruption efforts and wanted her recalled from Kiev.
Trump’s own lawyer admitted that the allegations at the center of the impeachment investigation are true.
Trump directed Rudy Giuliani to go to Ukraine to dig up dirt on Joe Biden.
The idea that Giuliani was acting on his own has been blown to bits.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/10/12/giuliani-trump-directed-ukraine.html
ElNono
10-13-2019, 03:08 PM
"We're going to take a look at it. We're going after these people. These are bad, bad people," Trump said while speaking at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C.
"I actually told my lawyer, I said sue [Schiff] anyway. I said, even if we lose, the American public will understand," Trump said of Schiff, who is helping lead the House's impeachment inquiry.
"And sue Nancy Pelosi, or maybe we should just impeach them, because they’re lying and what they’re doing is a terrible thing for our country."
---
That whole spiel would be hilarious if it wouldn't be so sadly ignorant. That's the level, people.
ducks
10-13-2019, 07:55 PM
Schiff: Intel Committee May Not Call Whistleblower to Testify
Afraid of the lies
LkrFan
10-13-2019, 08:03 PM
Schiff: Intel Committee May Not Call Whistleblower to Testify
Afraid of the lies
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1183548222960103424?s=19
:lol
LkrFan
10-13-2019, 08:08 PM
https://twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/1183547970966286336?s=19
ducks
10-13-2019, 10:13 PM
The Fox News poll that said 51 percent of voters surveyed supported impeaching President Donald Trump didn’t properly represent Republican and Independent voters, according to a New York Post analysis.
The news outlet said the party-affiliation breakdown was incorrect, and suggested a poll weighted with the new numbers would have concluded that just 44.9 percent favored impeachment compared with the 44.4 percent who opposed it.
boutons_deux
10-14-2019, 03:48 AM
"These are bad, bad people"
his baby talk is too complex for this cult mob
boutons_deux
10-14-2019, 03:49 AM
‘Stop talking’: Trump advisers want Giuliani dumped
Trump allies felt Giuliani's free-wheeling monologues were hurting the president.
And that was before the ex-New York mayor's business associates got arrested.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/12/rudy-giuliani-trump-interviews-044791 (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/12/rudy-giuliani-trump-interviews-044791)
boutons_deux
10-14-2019, 08:48 AM
Giuliani was always a fraud. Just ask the FDNY
As the image of “America’s Mayor” was being rehabbed, 9/11 families saw how his malfeasance killed their loved ones
if the media is to tell the whole story of the rise and demise of America’s Mayor, they need to confess to their role in this grifter’s ascension.
We got a President Trump thanks to a compliant, sensationalist media apparatus that breathed life into his phony self-made billionaire myth,
just as we owe them Rudy, who they cast as a post-9/11 American hero.
In politics, narrative is everything.
By the time that the planes crashed into the Twin Towers on Sept. 11, 2001 Giuliani was a master surfer of the wave of public opinion.
In the attacks that played out in lower Manhattan, at the Pentagon, and in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, close to 3,000 people were killed — 343 of them uniformed New York City firemen.
Overnight, the American news media turned Giuliani into a larger than life heroic figure. But the people that were most intimately familiar with the city’s pre-9/11 counter-terrorism preparations knew that
it was Giuliani’s failures as Mayor which contributed directly to the horrific body count for the Fire Department of New York (FDNY) that day.
The contract for the new radios was a no bid, non-competitive contract
that was, as it turned out, just an extension of an existing contract with Motorola, which has a near-monopoly on emergency communications.
According to a report issued by the New York City Comptroller the next month,
the Giuliani administration had “willfully” violated “city contracting rules….
endangering firefighters in a reckless bid (https://www.firefighterclosecalls.com/fdny-radio-probe-former-fire-captain-writes-that-a-formal-investigation-must-be-conducted-on-14m-motorola-contract/) to buy a new type of hand-held radio that it later had to pull from service,”
The Times reported that “the new digital radios were never properly tested before being distributed to firefighters.”
As City Comptroller Alan Hevesi documented,
“they were purchased through what he described as an improper process that did not allow competing companies to bid for the contract.”
Just six months later, FDNY’s bravest faced the doomsday scenario as they sized up the rescue operation in the badly damaged Twin Towers on that clear blue-sky day in September that would take so many of their lives.
They were equipped with the same analog radios that had failed them so badly when the WTC was bombed back in 1993.
As the IAFF video documents and as the 9/11 timeline confirms, at 9:32 am. on Sept. 11,
an FDNY Chief ordered all members in the North Tower to the lobby.
Even though he repeated the order, not a single company responded.
At 9:59 the WTC South Tower collapsed; and at 10 am the order to abandon the North Tower was repeated. Inside the North Tower were 121 firefighters who never heard that order. They perished when the North Tower collapsed at 10:28 am.
“On 9/11 firefighters went into the North Tower and started ascending the tower, yet they were being called back and they kept going,” said Richard Salem, an attorney who has been representing several of the firefighters’ families who lost loved ones when the North Tower collapsed.
“Not one other uniform[ed] officer from any other department [who had functioning radios], perished in that tower other than the FDNY.”
Despicably, Giuliani tried to cover up his own malfeasance by telling the 9/11 Commission
that the North Tower firefighters had ignored the radio orders because of “their willingness, the way I describe it to stand their ground.”
“These radios did not work in the WTC in 1993 and they did not work in 2001,” he told me during a phone interview. “We got the story out there but when the media christened him ‘America’s Mayor,’ it all went away.”
Giuliani was asked if “saying things for Trump, not always being truthful about it — do you ever worry that this will be your legacy? Does that ever worry you in any way?”
He answered: “Absolutely. I am afraid it will be on my gravestone. ‘Rudy Giuliani: He lied for Trump.’
Somehow, I don’t think that will be it.
But, if it is, so what do I care? I’ll be dead.”
https://www.salon.com/2019/10/13/giuliani-was-always-a-fraud-just-ask-the-fdny/ (https://www.salon.com/2019/10/13/giuliani-was-always-a-fraud-just-ask-the-fdny/)
I have a multi-decade friend who denies AGW and doesn't GAF about the climate catastrophe, hates anybody talking about.
He, with children and grandchildren, doesn't care "because I'll be dead"
ducks
10-14-2019, 09:22 AM
Rand Paul calls for investigation of Dem senators, says they threatened Ukraine aid during Mueller probe
Pavlov
10-14-2019, 09:31 AM
Threatening Ukraine aid bad now.
Trump followed through on his threat.
That's why he's being investigated.
DarrinS
10-14-2019, 09:50 AM
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/were-in-a-permanent-coup
Pavlov
10-14-2019, 09:55 AM
:lol you think Trump did absolutely nothing wrong.
boutons_deux
10-14-2019, 10:13 AM
Laurence Tribe Tells Trump He’s Going To Lose Badly If Impeachment Fight Reaches Supreme Court
The courts are beginning to hold that the president is violating the law.”
“I think if any of these cases get to the Supreme Court, the president is going to lose.
He’s going to lose even the votes of conservative jurists.”
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/10/12/laurence-tribe-trump-lose-badly-impeachment-reaches-supreme-court.html (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/10/12/laurence-tribe-trump-lose-badly-impeachment-reaches-supreme-court.html)
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/were-in-a-permanent-coup
Almost everything in this article can be true - and it, in no shape or form, will exonerate dear leader.
You'll likely think they're mutually exclusive when they're not.
Trump stands accused of using the office of the presidency to advance political aims, in particular pressuring Ukraine to investigate potential campaign rival Joe Biden. He’s guilty, but the issue is how guilty, in comparison to his accusers.
Trump, at least insofar as we know, has not used section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to monitor political rivals. He hasn’t deployed human counterintelligence “informants” to follow the likes of Hunter Biden. He hasn’t maneuvered to secure Special Counsel probes of Democrats.
Trump President, not NSA/CIA/whatever other IC organization you wanna single out. Doesn't excuse any abuse of power - but even Taibbi is in favor of impeachment.
Pavlov
10-14-2019, 10:21 AM
Yes, it's terrible that the intel and law enforcement communities used legal means to investigate legitimate leads.
Again, Russiagate would've been a much lower profile FBI investigation had Trump and everyone around him not lied about it at every possible opportunity.
ducks
10-14-2019, 12:23 PM
:lol you think Trump did absolutely nothing wrong.
You think he did something impeachable
Lol
What Adam did was worse!
It was before congress and the American people against his political rival !
ducks
10-14-2019, 12:28 PM
Fbi has lied for years
ducks
10-14-2019, 12:28 PM
Threatening Ukraine aid bad now.
Trump followed through on his threat.
That's why he's being investigated.
Democracts do it all the time
Pavlov
10-14-2019, 12:35 PM
Democracts do it all the timeShow me all your examples of Democrats doing exactly what Trump did.
I expect at least ten since you say they do it all the time.
hater
10-14-2019, 12:39 PM
:lmao ducks putting a prong collar on Chump and taking him for a walk :lmao
Pavlov
10-14-2019, 12:45 PM
:lmao ducks putting a prong collar on Chump and taking him for a walk :lmao:lol he's curling up into a ball pretending I didn't ask just like you always do.
Here, I'll do it again:
What crimes do you say Hunter and/or Joe Biden committed, hater?
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 01:02 PM
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1183799173847625729?s=19
Pavlov
10-14-2019, 01:07 PM
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1183799173847625729?s=19:lol Donald 'n' Rudy's Ukraine internets conspiracy investigation has already fucked up four cabinet departments. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the Forest Service and Coast Guard implicated somehow.
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 01:26 PM
Chris's hard earned cash is going into David Dennison's pockets?
https://twitter.com/MrJonCryer/status/1183606613036261376?s=19
He's a career crooked criminal, so I know this is a true tweet. You hate to see it tho! :rollin :lmao :rollin
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 01:28 PM
https://twitter.com/Heidi_Cuda/status/1183198403569704960?s=19
:lmao
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 01:30 PM
Trump is the OPPOSITE of Robin Hood and his uneducated, broke ass, racist supporters don't care :lmao
spurraider21
10-14-2019, 01:52 PM
Trump is the OPPOSITE of Robin Hood and his uneducated, broke ass, racist supporters don't care :lmao
https://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/1925/large/voting-republican1.jpg?1343149622
hater
10-14-2019, 02:05 PM
Trump is the OPPOSITE of Robin Hood and his uneducated, broke ass, racist supporters don't care :lmao
didn't help that Hillary is the OPPOSITE of mother theresa tbqh :lol
Pavlov
10-14-2019, 02:18 PM
Hillary
*ding*
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 02:24 PM
https://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/1925/large/voting-republican1.jpg?1343149622
This is some real shit :rollin :lmao :rollin
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 02:26 PM
didn't help that Hillary is the OPPOSITE of mother theresa tbqh :lol
Note to hater: I don't give a John Clawd Van Damn about Hillary or 44 tbqh. :lol
spurraider21
10-14-2019, 02:31 PM
This is some real shit :rollin :lmao :rollin
credit to aarony tbh
ducks
10-14-2019, 02:32 PM
https://youtu.be/DUkzrwTFv6A
hater
10-14-2019, 03:22 PM
Note to hater: I don't give a John Clawd Van Damn about Hillary or 44 tbqh. :lol
Well you should tbqh
Overlords gave us Americans 2 choices in 2016:
Orange turd
Shitler
Of course it's relevant when discussing Trump was a terrible candidate/president lol
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 04:54 PM
https://twitter.com/yankeemoe23/status/1183862030341758976?s=19
:lol
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 04:55 PM
“You were in the room for Fiona Hill’s closed-door deposition today,” said Blitzer. “How helpful do you believe her testimony to your investigation will be?”
“Incredibly helpful, Wolf,” said Swalwell, who serves on the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees. “Also helpful that she showed up, and, like some others, has chosen to defy orders from the president and the State Department to not show up. And when witnesses actually just show up, it advances our investigation.”
:wow
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 04:59 PM
“We’ll wait until she’s done, and I’m going to head back there before we characterize what she said,” continued Swalwell. “But the arrows continue to point in just one direction, which is that a crime was committed — extortion, bribery, soliciting campaign help,” said Swalwell. “It was confessed to by the president, and there’s an active coverup going on right now.”
“Let me just back up for a moment,” said Blitzer. “You’re saying the president of the United States actually committed a crime?”
“Yes,” said Swalwell. “Extorting your taxpayer dollars, $300 million — $390 that was supposed to go to [Ukraine], holding that over their heads unless they investigated his political opponent the Bidens, and went back and exonerated Russia for their role in the 2016 election. In exchange for that … Ukraine would get a presidential visit and Ukraine would get security assistance. The president has frankly admitted to that.”
:wow
djohn2oo8
10-14-2019, 06:00 PM
1183875183943118849
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 06:40 PM
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1183889674860929024?s=19
:lol
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 07:24 PM
I'm sure Fiona dropped the goods
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1183899963899731968?s=19
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/fiona-cartoon-character-princess-wax-figure-figure-belongs-to-saint-peterburg-wax-museum-exhibited-travelling-51605185.jpg
:lol
Chris
10-14-2019, 07:43 PM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1183842873684451329?s=19
Herr Gaetz
Pavlov
10-14-2019, 07:44 PM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1183842873684451329?s=19
Herr Gaetz:lol denied
What is HE so afraid of. There were plenty of Republicans already present.
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1183842873684451329?s=19
Herr Gaetz
The only one who looks afraid is him.
LkrFan
10-14-2019, 07:53 PM
:lol denied
What is HE so afraid of. There were plenty of Republicans already present.
Do they have breathalyzers? :lol
boutons_deux
10-14-2019, 07:57 PM
Dems pegged Gaetz as a spy for Trash, like Nunes has been. Fuck 'em both
Chris
10-14-2019, 08:49 PM
https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1183909897613795330?s=19
That 17 year old that does the media for Gaetz’s Twitter did a great job with that one.
Fiona Hill, the White House’s former top Russia adviser, told impeachment investigators on Tuesday that Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, ran a shadow foreign policy in Ukraine that circumvented U.S. officials and career diplomats in order to personally benefit President Trump, according to a person familiar with her testimony.
Hill, who served as the senior official for Russia and Europe on the National Security Council, was the latest witness in a fast-moving impeachment inquiry focused on whether the president abused his office by using the promise of military aid and diplomatic support to pressure Ukraine into investigating his political rivals.
In a closed-door session that lasted roughly 10 hours, Hill told lawmakers that she confronted Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, about Giuliani’s activities which, she testified, were not coordinated with the officials responsible for carrying out U.S. foreign policy, this person said on the condition of anonymity to disclose details of her deposition.
https://apple.news/AdTF9ufAFRGiAsp1QCXMRZQ
Looks like Matty missed a doozy
Almost as soon as her testimony began, the proceeding was disrupted by a partisan dispute. Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) attempted to sit in on the deposition “as a member of Congress,” he said, arguing that “if Adam Schiff and the House Democrats were so proud of their work, they would be willing to show it.” Gaetz sits on the Judiciary Committee but not on any of the three panels conducting the impeachment inquiry.
Schiff (Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and the Democrats’ point man on the impeachment probe, objected to Gaetz joining. The question was then put to a parliamentarian, who decided that Gaetz should leave the room, which he did.
Cucked by a p:lolrl:lolment:lolri:loln
Spurs Homer
10-14-2019, 09:13 PM
Gaetz took some of dem russian bribes funneled thru the NRA - and is very very nervous.
He and Gym Jordan are really working hard on that cover up - throwing roadblocks wherever they can
won't work.
The truth always comes out eventually.
baseline bum
10-14-2019, 09:24 PM
didn't help that Hillary is the OPPOSITE of mother theresa tbqh :lol
Nope, they're pretty similar attention whoring pieces of shit.
DarrinS
10-14-2019, 09:32 PM
Almost as soon as her testimony began, the proceeding was disrupted by a partisan dispute. Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) attempted to sit in on the deposition “as a member of Congress,” he said, arguing that “if Adam Schiff and the House Democrats were so proud of their work, they would be willing to show it.” Gaetz sits on the Judiciary Committee but not on any of the three panels conducting the impeachment inquiry.
Schiff (Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and the Democrats’ point man on the impeachment probe, objected to Gaetz joining. The question was then put to a parliamentarian, who decided that Gaetz should leave the room, which he did.
Cucked by a p:lolrl:lolment:lolri:loln
They (dems) just don't want Schiff on TV. I don't blame them.
Almost as soon as her testimony began, the proceeding was disrupted by a partisan dispute. Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) attempted to sit in on the deposition “as a member of Congress,” he said, arguing that “if Adam Schiff and the House Democrats were so proud of their work, they would be willing to show it.” Gaetz sits on the Judiciary Committee but not on any of the three panels conducting the impeachment inquiry.
Schiff (Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and the Democrats’ point man on the impeachment probe, objected to Gaetz joining. The question was then put to a parliamentarian, who decided that Gaetz should leave the room, which he did.
Cucked by a p:lolrl:lolment:lolri:loln
He got his name in the press though, probably his goal.
pgardn
10-14-2019, 09:34 PM
Well you should tbqh
Overlords gave us Americans 2 choices in 2016:
Orange turd
Shitler
Of course it's relevant when discussing Trump was a terrible candidate/president lol
Overlord gave us Trump?
Tell me how the red team schemed to get Trump nominated over at least 9 other candidates?
Go through that please.
They (dems) just don't want Schiff on TV. I don't blame them.
Fascinating but irrelevant to retard Gaetz being a retard.*
*a dishonest retard
He got his name in the press though, probably his goal.
He got shit down by a parliamentarian, which probably was not his goal
Edit: shut down too
He got shit down by a parliamentarian, which probably was not his goal
Edit: shut down too
Freudian slip?
His voter base will only see it as him getting under the skin of the Dems.
Freudian slip?
His voter base will only see it as him getting under the skin of the Dems.
Maybe, but I’m fine with it.
Whatever the good people of the Florida panhandle believe won’t change the fact that he got cucked by a parliamentarian
benefactor
10-14-2019, 09:52 PM
Walls closing in on King Nothing tbh
baseline bum
10-14-2019, 10:02 PM
Walls closing in on King Nothing tbh
He could rape Lindsey Graham on live TV and the senate still wouldn't vote to convict. Graham himself probably wouldn't even vote to convict.
benefactor
10-14-2019, 10:06 PM
He could rape Lindsey Graham on live TV and the senate still wouldn't vote to convict. Graham himself probably wouldn't even vote to convict.
Oh I know, but he's still getting impeached and there's no telling what else is going to come out during his re-election. He'll keep his base, but he's trying his hardest to push away the silent middle that hated Clinton too much to vote for her.
baseline bum
10-14-2019, 10:10 PM
Oh I know, but he's still getting impeached and there's no telling what else is going to come out during his re-election. He'll keep his base, but he's trying his hardest to push away the silent middle that hated Clinton too much to vote for her.
He just needs to convince them not to vote just like last election by dragging everything through the mud. He'll be a formidable opponent who shouldn't be underestimated.
Pavlov
10-15-2019, 03:36 AM
:rollin
1183950003141627906
Dude is a nutbar but he's got a way with words.
1183936599672999937
How can anyone defend this Dennison idiot?
Spurs Homer
10-15-2019, 08:08 AM
:rollin
1183950003141627906
Dude is a nutbar but he's got a way with words.
1183936599672999937
How can anyone defend this Dennison idiot?
C-U-L-T
hater
10-15-2019, 08:10 AM
He could rape Lindsey Graham on live TV and the senate still wouldn't vote to convict. Graham himself probably wouldn't even vote to convict.
:tu ma niga
Nothing burger. Called it on page 1
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 08:56 AM
C-U-L-T
The deep, pervasive cognitive dissonance that sees, hears shit but denies it all because the dictate is to deny what is seen and heard, syndrome of mental diseases typically found in religions.
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 09:03 AM
‘He’s cooked’:
Sam Donaldson warns Trump the Senate may vote to convict him after impeachment trial
New York Times” reporting?” Lemon asked
“It’s a bombshell,” Donaldson replied.
“Poor Donald Trump has the version of the Chinese water torture —
Drop, drop, drop and a final drop breaks his skull.
We’re watching this develop, it’s amazing.”
The Senate can convict if this keeps going,” Donaldson said.
“If people out in the country begin it think that’s not right, that’s wrong, he’s cooked,” he added.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/hes-cooked-sam-donaldson-warns-trump-the-senate-may-vote-to-convict-him-after-impeachment-trial/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1724
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 09:31 AM
White House ‘frantic’ after Democrats tap a ‘gusher’ of information from former Trump Russia aide Hill: Axios
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/fiona_hill_screenshot.jpg
the situation at the White House as “tense and frantic” after testimony by a former Donald Trump Russia aide implicated multiple high-ranking officials in the administration.
Democrats ‘tapped a gusher” when they called former Russia adviser Fiona Hill to testify.
“House Democrats tell us that every witness who has appeared before them has bolstered their case against President Trump and they say there’s very little contradiction in the testimony,”
“House Democrats are now going for the Pentagon —
we’ve seen this reach into the State Department and the intelligence community.”
there is infighting over how to push back.
“Administration officials recognize they have no control over all this information that’s coming out and
they can see an incredible array of administration officials now being summoned,
including the acting director of White House Office of Management and Budget also being called up there.”
acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and the White House counsel not getting along,”
“Those are the two most vital advisers to the president on impeachment and according to Axios’ sources they’re not agreeing on how to go forward.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/white-house-frantic-after-democrats-tap-a-gusher-of-information-from-former-trump-russia-aide-hill-axios/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1724 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/white-house-frantic-after-democrats-tap-a-gusher-of-information-from-former-trump-russia-aide-hill-axios/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1724)
baseline bum
10-15-2019, 09:39 AM
How can anyone defend this Dennison idiot?
The Magic R
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 09:42 AM
‘Deep into stupid’:
Morning Joe gleefully trashes Lindsey Graham after Fiona Hill destroys his Trump excuses
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/deep-into-stupid-morning-joe-gleefully-trashes-lindsey-graham-after-fiona-hill-destroys-his-trump-excuses/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1724
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 01:28 PM
‘Impeachment barricade is crumbling’:
Trump officials are ignoring his threats and cooperating with House Dems
< Fiona Hill, George Kent, Yovanovitch ... >
As more administration officials are set to testify this week,
it signals that Trump’s “once-impenetrable barrier
to meaningful testimony in Democrats’ impeachment inquiry has been blown apart,” or
as Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) put it, “The walls are closing in.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/impeachment-barricade-is-crumbling-trump-officials-are-ignoring-his-threats-and-cooperating-with-house-dems/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1731
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 01:37 PM
https://twitter.com/grantstern/status/1184134369268699136?s=19
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 01:54 PM
Amerikkka, a place where women have bigger balls than men
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1184169314796163073?s=19
In my Martin voice: "You go Girl!" :lol
Chris
10-15-2019, 02:03 PM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1184139256018722816?s=19
Amerikkka, a place where women have bigger balls than men
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1184169314796163073?s=19
In my Martinez voice: "You go Girl!" :lol
FIFY
Pavlov
10-15-2019, 02:12 PM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1184139256018722816?s=19
Elections have consequences.
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1184139256018722816?s=19
Almost as soon as her testimony began, the proceeding was disrupted by a partisan dispute. Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) attempted to sit in on the deposition “as a member of Congress,” he said, arguing that “if Adam Schiff and the House Democrats were so proud of their work, they would be willing to show it.” Gaetz sits on the Judiciary Committee but not on any of the three panels conducting the impeachment inquiry.
Schiff (Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and the Democrats’ point man on the impeachment probe, objected to Gaetz joining. The question was then put to a parliamentarian, who decided that Gaetz should leave the room, which he did.
Cucked by a p:lolrl:lolment:lolri:loln
Terrified of VY
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 02:19 PM
Terrified of VY
:lmao
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 02:21 PM
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1184186679596326913?s=19
This idiot is not a federal Service employee, WH staff - he ain't shit. If I were Schiff, I'd arrest his punkass for ignoring a congressional subpoena.
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 02:27 PM
https://twitter.com/NotMrTibbs/status/1184187988474859520?s=19
Trill Clinton
10-15-2019, 02:35 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EG6vPkHWsAEK50J?format=png&name=900x900
Trill Clinton
10-15-2019, 02:39 PM
1184188825783996416
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 02:55 PM
1184188825783996416
Nothing's changed? Lindsay has changed
Thanks, SC.
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 02:58 PM
1184188825783996416
The only way the Rs vote to impeach is to save their own skin in 2020. I'm here for it tho :lol
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 02:58 PM
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1184195984085176322?s=19
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 03:01 PM
https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1184177539180388354?s=19
My dumbass criminal for an
Attorney is
Getting a criminal
Attorney
:rollin :lmao :rollin
ducks
10-15-2019, 03:01 PM
Lol paying to read that shit!
https://static.politico.com/e0/9c/6202ee364450b1df9a596f15b53e/rudy-giuliani-formal-notice.jpg
Lawyers write letters like this when they know they're wrong but can't not make an objection. Not surprising that the chair of an AmLaw 200 firm's white collar practice is mailing it in on calling the impeachment inquiry "unconstitutional, baseless, and illegitimate." The icing on the cake is Sale's subsequent withdrawal. He don't want his or his firm's name associated with this shit.
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 03:28 PM
After the Massacre: Fired by Nixon, Miami Lawyer Jon Sale Rose to Prominence
https://www.law.com/dailybusinessreview/2019/06/07/after-the-massacre-fired-by-nixon-miami-lawyer-jon-sale-rose-to-prominence-in-criminal-defense/?slreturn=20190915162730 (https://www.law.com/dailybusinessreview/2019/06/07/after-the-massacre-fired-by-nixon-miami-lawyer-jon-sale-rose-to-prominence-in-criminal-defense/?slreturn=20190915162730)
spurraider21
10-15-2019, 03:28 PM
https://static.politico.com/e0/9c/6202ee364450b1df9a596f15b53e/rudy-giuliani-formal-notice.jpg
Lawyers write letters like this when they know they're wrong but can't not make an objection. Not surprising that the chair of an AmLaw 200 firm's white collar practice is mailing it in on calling the impeachment inquiry "unconstitutional, baseless, and illegitimate." The icing on the cake is Sale's subsequent withdrawal. He don't want his or his firm's name associated with this shit.
those boilerplate objections at the bottom lol. that's the "oh shit i owe discovery responses by tomorrow and totally forgot about it, let me just serve objections and wait for M&C process" tactic
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 03:30 PM
Dems should send the House sergeant-at-arms to arrest Julie Annie, and any other Trash sycophant mobster who refuses subpoenas.
koriwhat
10-15-2019, 03:45 PM
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1184186679596326913?s=19
This idiot is not a federal Service employee, WH staff - he ain't shit. If I were Schiff, I'd arrest his punkass for ignoring a congressional subpoena.
A fake impeachment inquiry... ask yourself why they don't cast a vote already instead of a kangaroo court instead?
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 04:03 PM
A fake impeachment inquiry... ask yourself why they don't cast a vote already instead of a kangaroo court instead?
Simple. They are gathering more and more evidence on purpose. Why?
1) Trump wants this over with. I say let it linger. He's a healthy, fit, stable genius, so his 70 year old heart can take it, right? :)
2) The more evidence they expose, it gives independents something to chew on as we get ready for the 2020 Senate elections. All those Repugs who see clear evidence of his wrong doing, yet still vote NOT to impeach by 67%, simply put, they = f:lolcked
3) The more evidence they get will get turned over to Mueller. Remember, DOJ won't insight a sitting President, but Mueller said his ass is grass be it now, or 4 years from now (if it comes to that; hope not tho). All that shit talk on Mueller's "Witch Hunt" will be remembered. :lol
4) Adam Schiff can arrest more Trumpettes in his inner circle. I'm sure my man Michael Cohen (who is willing to sing like Whitney Houston) is gonna feed more dirt to Adam, etc. to further peel back more evidence against that Orange fucker. Stay tuned for that shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. :rollin :lmao :rollin
So yeah, impeaching is cool, but I want the Dems to drain that red swamp. There's a lot of layers to Trump's corruption. I'm sure Paul Manafort will start singing too.
More to follow on that vote. There is much more leads to follow though. I'll keep you posted. :toast
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 04:07 PM
Just a reminder
https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1184210384519077894?s=19
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 04:59 PM
https://twitter.com/RepTedLieu/status/1184226297536532482?s=19
LkrFan
10-15-2019, 05:07 PM
https://twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/1184228486845739010?s=19
:)
djohn2oo8
10-15-2019, 05:16 PM
1184230055204941824
djohn2oo8
10-15-2019, 05:27 PM
1184228646019653633
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 05:38 PM
It's deliciously hilarious that the little Repug bitches, eg McCaul, are whining about the Dems legally hearing testimony in secretive rooms excluding Repugs,
aka, Constitutional HARDBALL right back in the Repugs' sour faces
When Repugs ran the committees, subpoenas were issued without telling the Dem committee members,
and Dem committee members were blocked from seeing committees' documentation.
DarrinS
10-15-2019, 06:27 PM
No vote. -Pelosi
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 06:29 PM
no vote YET
Still plenty of people to interview, subpoenas to issues, subpoena defiers to lock up.
Chris
10-15-2019, 06:34 PM
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1184236031970820105?s=19
:lol
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 06:36 PM
Pentagon refusing to cooperate with Dems
Will Dems find their balls to play the need hardass hardball?
or will they wimp out and show future autocrats much smarter than Trash how to take total power.
Pavlov
10-15-2019, 06:42 PM
No vote. -PelosiWhere in the Constitution or House rules is the requirement for a vote at this time, Darrin?
djohn2oo8
10-15-2019, 08:10 PM
1184273049933230085
djohn2oo8
10-15-2019, 08:10 PM
Lol Darrin. They aren’t going to do a formal vote for unless it’s for the actual impeachment vote.
djohn2oo8
10-15-2019, 08:12 PM
1184275280447209472
Gotdayumm!!! This shit coming back round to Flynn territory :lmao
djohn2oo8
10-15-2019, 08:22 PM
1184277807934799872
boutons_deux
10-15-2019, 08:25 PM
I bet Julie A had a deal with Erdogan
"If I get Trash to deliver Gulen to you, then you owe me $1M"
DJohn and Great Yap, both shills pretending to discuss politics, both just basically being spam bots for twitter and YT content providers.
A fake impeachment inquiry... ask yourself why they don't cast a vote already instead of a kangaroo court instead?
When RGB croaks or quits, they’ll vote. Can’t let him nominate another SCJ.
1184275280447209472
Gotdayumm!!! This shit coming back round to Flynn territory :lmao
Remember when you lost a $2000 bet in your own Flynn thread and then were too scared I’d collect your fantasy football winnings so you ran off and quit the league?!?! Gotdayumm you a bitch!!! :lmao
vy65 true or false?
According to Capitol Hill members, via Politico, House Democrat leadership has taken a climate assessment of democrat House members and Speaker Pelosi announced they will not hold a House impeachment authorization vote. As a direct and specific consequence all committee subpoenas do not carry a penalty for non-compliance.
A judicial penalty can only be created if the House votes to authorize an impeachment inquiry. Absent a vote, the Legislative Branch has not established compulsion authority (aka judicial enforcement authority), as they attempt to work through their quasi-constitutional “impeachment inquiry” process.
It has long been well established by SCOTUS that Congress has lawful (judicial authority) subpoena powers pursuant to its implied responsibility of legislative oversight. However, that only applies to the powers enumerated in A1§8. Neither foreign policy (Ukraine) nor impeachment have any nexus to A1§8. The customary Legislative Branch subpoena power is limited to their legislative purpose.
There is an elevated level of subpoena, made power possible by SCOTUS precedent, that carries inherent penalties for non-compliance, and is specifically allowed for impeachment investigations. That level of elevated House authority requires a full House authorization vote.
In this current example the Legislative Branch is expressing their “impeachment authority” as part of the Legislative Branch purpose. So that raises the issue of an entirely different type of subpoena:… A demand from congress that penetrates the constitutional separation of powers; and further penetrates the legal authority of Executive Branch executive privilege.
It was separately established by SCOTUS during the Nixon impeachment investigation that *IF* the full House votes to have the Judiciary Committee commence an impeachment investigation, then the Judiciary Committee has subpoena power that can overcome executive privilege claims.
There has been NO VOTE to create that level of subpoena power.
As a consequence, the House has not created a process to penetrate the constitutionally inherent separation of powers, and/or, the legally recognized firewall known as ‘executive privilege’. The House must vote to authorize the committee impeachment investigation, and through that process the committee gains judicial enforcement authority. This creates the penalty for non-compliance with an impeachment subpoena.
A demand letter only becomes a “subpoena”, technically meaning: ‘a request for the production of documents with a penalty for non-compliance’, when the committee has judicial enforcement authority. That process establishes an enforcement penalty.
The current demand letters cannot carry a penalty because the demands do not contain judicial enforcement authority…. because the impeachment investigation was not authorized by the chamber.
The reason judicial enforcement authority is constitutionally required is because creating Judicial enforcement authority, creating the penalty for non-compliance, gives the Executive Branch a process to appeal any legislative demand via the Judicial Branch (federal courts).
Absent a penalty for non-compliance, which factually makes a subpoena a ‘subpoena’, the Executive Branch has no process to engage an appellate review by federal courts.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/15/fraud-continues-nancy-pelosi-promises-house-impeachment-subpoenas-will-not-have-legal-penalties-house-will-not-authorize-impeachment-inquiry/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
ducks
10-15-2019, 10:43 PM
Correct
Nancy need to chop off her tits and grow a pair of balls and vote
SnakeBoy
10-16-2019, 01:35 AM
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1184236031970820105?s=19
:lol
but but but it's not because she doesn't have the votes
:lol
spurraider21
10-16-2019, 01:51 AM
vy65 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11399) true or false?
According to Capitol Hill members, via Politico, House Democrat leadership has taken a climate assessment of democrat House members and Speaker Pelosi announced they will not hold a House impeachment authorization vote. As a direct and specific consequence all committee subpoenas do not carry a penalty for non-compliance.
A judicial penalty can only be created if the House votes to authorize an impeachment inquiry. Absent a vote, the Legislative Branch has not established compulsion authority (aka judicial enforcement authority), as they attempt to work through their quasi-constitutional “impeachment inquiry” process.
It has long been well established by SCOTUS that Congress has lawful (judicial authority) subpoena powers pursuant to its implied responsibility of legislative oversight. However, that only applies to the powers enumerated in A1§8. Neither foreign policy (Ukraine) nor impeachment have any nexus to A1§8. The customary Legislative Branch subpoena power is limited to their legislative purpose.
There is an elevated level of subpoena, made power possible by SCOTUS precedent, that carries inherent penalties for non-compliance, and is specifically allowed for impeachment investigations. That level of elevated House authority requires a full House authorization vote.
In this current example the Legislative Branch is expressing their “impeachment authority” as part of the Legislative Branch purpose. So that raises the issue of an entirely different type of subpoena:… A demand from congress that penetrates the constitutional separation of powers; and further penetrates the legal authority of Executive Branch executive privilege.
It was separately established by SCOTUS during the Nixon impeachment investigation that *IF* the full House votes to have the Judiciary Committee commence an impeachment investigation, then the Judiciary Committee has subpoena power that can overcome executive privilege claims.
There has been NO VOTE to create that level of subpoena power.
As a consequence, the House has not created a process to penetrate the constitutionally inherent separation of powers, and/or, the legally recognized firewall known as ‘executive privilege’. The House must vote to authorize the committee impeachment investigation, and through that process the committee gains judicial enforcement authority. This creates the penalty for non-compliance with an impeachment subpoena.
A demand letter only becomes a “subpoena”, technically meaning: ‘a request for the production of documents with a penalty for non-compliance’, when the committee has judicial enforcement authority. That process establishes an enforcement penalty.
The current demand letters cannot carry a penalty because the demands do not contain judicial enforcement authority…. because the impeachment investigation was not authorized by the chamber.
The reason judicial enforcement authority is constitutionally required is because creating Judicial enforcement authority, creating the penalty for non-compliance, gives the Executive Branch a process to appeal any legislative demand via the Judicial Branch (federal courts).
Absent a penalty for non-compliance, which factually makes a subpoena a ‘subpoena’, the Executive Branch has no process to engage an appellate review by federal courts.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/15/fraud-continues-nancy-pelosi-promises-house-impeachment-subpoenas-will-not-have-legal-penalties-house-will-not-authorize-impeachment-inquiry/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
would be helpful if he cited to the supreme court cases in question, or the laws in question, instead of just calling them "well established" and moving on.
and lol "quasi-constitutional"
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 02:52 AM
vy65 true or false?
According to Capitol Hill members, via Politico, House Democrat leadership has taken a climate assessment of democrat House members and Speaker Pelosi announced they will not hold a House impeachment authorization vote. As a direct and specific consequence all committee subpoenas do not carry a penalty for non-compliance.
A judicial penalty can only be created if the House votes to authorize an impeachment inquiry. Absent a vote, the Legislative Branch has not established compulsion authority (aka judicial enforcement authority), as they attempt to work through their quasi-constitutional “impeachment inquiry” process.
It has long been well established by SCOTUS that Congress has lawful (judicial authority) subpoena powers pursuant to its implied responsibility of legislative oversight. However, that only applies to the powers enumerated in A1§8. Neither foreign policy (Ukraine) nor impeachment have any nexus to A1§8. The customary Legislative Branch subpoena power is limited to their legislative purpose.
There is an elevated level of subpoena, made power possible by SCOTUS precedent, that carries inherent penalties for non-compliance, and is specifically allowed for impeachment investigations. That level of elevated House authority requires a full House authorization vote.
In this current example the Legislative Branch is expressing their “impeachment authority” as part of the Legislative Branch purpose. So that raises the issue of an entirely different type of subpoena:… A demand from congress that penetrates the constitutional separation of powers; and further penetrates the legal authority of Executive Branch executive privilege.
It was separately established by SCOTUS during the Nixon impeachment investigation that *IF* the full House votes to have the Judiciary Committee commence an impeachment investigation, then the Judiciary Committee has subpoena power that can overcome executive privilege claims.
There has been NO VOTE to create that level of subpoena power.
As a consequence, the House has not created a process to penetrate the constitutionally inherent separation of powers, and/or, the legally recognized firewall known as ‘executive privilege’. The House must vote to authorize the committee impeachment investigation, and through that process the committee gains judicial enforcement authority. This creates the penalty for non-compliance with an impeachment subpoena.
A demand letter only becomes a “subpoena”, technically meaning: ‘a request for the production of documents with a penalty for non-compliance’, when the committee has judicial enforcement authority. That process establishes an enforcement penalty.
The current demand letters cannot carry a penalty because the demands do not contain judicial enforcement authority…. because the impeachment investigation was not authorized by the chamber.
The reason judicial enforcement authority is constitutionally required is because creating Judicial enforcement authority, creating the penalty for non-compliance, gives the Executive Branch a process to appeal any legislative demand via the Judicial Branch (federal courts).
Absent a penalty for non-compliance, which factually makes a subpoena a ‘subpoena’, the Executive Branch has no process to engage an appellate review by federal courts.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/15/fraud-continues-nancy-pelosi-promises-house-impeachment-subpoenas-will-not-have-legal-penalties-house-will-not-authorize-impeachment-inquiry/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueSince it's the grocer and not a lawyer I'm going to go ahead and say lol without reading anything else.
ElNono
10-16-2019, 03:15 AM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1184139256018722816?s=19
:cry is not fair :cry
SnakeBoy
10-16-2019, 03:16 AM
Simple. They are gathering more and more evidence on purpose. Why?
1) Trump wants this over with. I say let it linger. He's a healthy, fit, stable genius, so his 70 year old heart can take it, right? :)
2) The more evidence they expose, it gives independents something to chew on as we get ready for the 2020 Senate elections. All those Repugs who see clear evidence of his wrong doing, yet still vote NOT to impeach by 67%, simply put, they = f:lolcked
3) The more evidence they get will get turned over to Mueller. Remember, DOJ won't insight a sitting President, but Mueller said his ass is grass be it now, or 4 years from now (if it comes to that; hope not tho). All that shit talk on Mueller's "Witch Hunt" will be remembered. :lol
4) Adam Schiff can arrest more Trumpettes in his inner circle. I'm sure my man Michael Cohen (who is willing to sing like Whitney Houston) is gonna feed more dirt to Adam, etc. to further peel back more evidence against that Orange fucker. Stay tuned for that shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. :rollin :lmao :rollin
So yeah, impeaching is cool, but I want the Dems to drain that red swamp. There's a lot of layers to Trump's corruption. I'm sure Paul Manafort will start singing too.
More to follow on that vote. There is much more leads to follow though. I'll keep you posted. :toast
wtf
ElNono
10-16-2019, 03:43 AM
vy65 true or false?
According to Capitol Hill members, via Politico, House Democrat leadership has taken a climate assessment of democrat House members and Speaker Pelosi announced they will not hold a House impeachment authorization vote. As a direct and specific consequence all committee subpoenas do not carry a penalty for non-compliance.
A judicial penalty can only be created if the House votes to authorize an impeachment inquiry. Absent a vote, the Legislative Branch has not established compulsion authority (aka judicial enforcement authority), as they attempt to work through their quasi-constitutional “impeachment inquiry” process.
It has long been well established by SCOTUS that Congress has lawful (judicial authority) subpoena powers pursuant to its implied responsibility of legislative oversight. However, that only applies to the powers enumerated in A1§8. Neither foreign policy (Ukraine) nor impeachment have any nexus to A1§8. The customary Legislative Branch subpoena power is limited to their legislative purpose.
There is an elevated level of subpoena, made power possible by SCOTUS precedent, that carries inherent penalties for non-compliance, and is specifically allowed for impeachment investigations. That level of elevated House authority requires a full House authorization vote.
In this current example the Legislative Branch is expressing their “impeachment authority” as part of the Legislative Branch purpose. So that raises the issue of an entirely different type of subpoena:… A demand from congress that penetrates the constitutional separation of powers; and further penetrates the legal authority of Executive Branch executive privilege.
It was separately established by SCOTUS during the Nixon impeachment investigation that *IF* the full House votes to have the Judiciary Committee commence an impeachment investigation, then the Judiciary Committee has subpoena power that can overcome executive privilege claims.
There has been NO VOTE to create that level of subpoena power.
As a consequence, the House has not created a process to penetrate the constitutionally inherent separation of powers, and/or, the legally recognized firewall known as ‘executive privilege’. The House must vote to authorize the committee impeachment investigation, and through that process the committee gains judicial enforcement authority. This creates the penalty for non-compliance with an impeachment subpoena.
A demand letter only becomes a “subpoena”, technically meaning: ‘a request for the production of documents with a penalty for non-compliance’, when the committee has judicial enforcement authority. That process establishes an enforcement penalty.
The current demand letters cannot carry a penalty because the demands do not contain judicial enforcement authority…. because the impeachment investigation was not authorized by the chamber.
The reason judicial enforcement authority is constitutionally required is because creating Judicial enforcement authority, creating the penalty for non-compliance, gives the Executive Branch a process to appeal any legislative demand via the Judicial Branch (federal courts).
Absent a penalty for non-compliance, which factually makes a subpoena a ‘subpoena’, the Executive Branch has no process to engage an appellate review by federal courts.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/15/fraud-continues-nancy-pelosi-promises-house-impeachment-subpoenas-will-not-have-legal-penalties-house-will-not-authorize-impeachment-inquiry/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
This analysis is incorrect, per some of the rulings we've had in recent cases. Any time one of these subpoenas has been challenged in court (ie: tax records), the House has made clear it's doing their oversight work in order to establish if legislation needs to be updated, which the courts, so far, have established to be proper.
We'll see if any of these rulings reach the SCOTUS and how they feel about it. The precedent (by the SCOTUS) so far is the give Congress deference.
ElNono
10-16-2019, 04:15 AM
The reason judicial enforcement authority is constitutionally required is because creating Judicial enforcement authority, creating the penalty for non-compliance, gives the Executive Branch a process to appeal any legislative demand via the Judicial Branch (federal courts).
This particular paragraph is incorrect also, as the government has already challenged some of these subpoenas in court (ie: again, tax records). So the 'process to appeal' is always there, regardless of a vote.
Judicial enforcement is actually tied to disputes between branches of Government that would significantly curb the power of one of the branches. One such case is, for example, the hiring of a special prosecutor to investigate alleged corruption cases on the Executive (Morrison v. Olson, 487 U.S. 654; Mistretta v. United States, 488 U.S. 361).
Another case is, for example, Congress attempting to overrule a DOJ determination, which they can only do by changing the laws. (Bowsher v. Synar, 478 U.S. 714)
Should the Executive assert executive privilege on some demand, then that would probably trigger this issue. It's just difficult to do so for former employees and, as far as risk is concerned, it's probably much less risky to defy the executive (at worst you would lose your job) vs defying a subpoena (which could land you in jail).
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 04:31 AM
Why is TSA bogging himself down with fake legal opinions from a grocer again when Dennison confessed to impeachable offenses on national television?
Chris
10-16-2019, 04:56 AM
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1184348340072435713?s=19
Rudy dgaf :lol
This analysis is incorrect, per some of the rulings we've had in recent cases. Any time one of these subpoenas has been challenged in court (ie: tax records), the House has made clear it's doing their oversight work in order to establish if legislation needs to be updated, which the courts, so far, have established to be proper.
We'll see if any of these rulings reach the SCOTUS and how they feel about it. The precedent (by the SCOTUS) so far is the give Congress deference.
Appreciate the feedback, but what oversight would they be doing in order to establish if legislation needs to updated concerning foreign policy or impeachment?
"However, that only applies to the powers enumerated in A1§8. Neither foreign policy (Ukraine) nor impeachment have any nexus to A1§8. The customary Legislative Branch subpoena power is limited to their legislative purpose.
boutons_deux
10-16-2019, 08:58 AM
"customary Legislative Branch subpoena power is limited to their legislative purpose."
Trash's total corruption is not "customary"
"legislative purpose" includes checks on the (corrupt) Exec
Spurs Homer
10-16-2019, 09:43 AM
Appreciate the feedback, but what oversight would they be doing in order to establish if legislation needs to updated concerning foreign policy or impeachment?
"However, that only applies to the powers enumerated in A1§8. Neither foreign policy (Ukraine) nor impeachment have any nexus to A1§8. The customary Legislative Branch subpoena power is limited to their legislative purpose.
your CULT leader....
CONFESSED
to the impeachable offense on live TV
now:
proceed to....
tap dance, juggle, do backflips, moondance, throw spaghetti on the walls, run flaming farm animals through fiery hoops,
parade costumed clowns with ballooons streaming out their assholes...
and after the smoke clears
your cult leader
already
CONFESSED
lolololololol
Spurs Homer
10-16-2019, 09:47 AM
The media is stupidly reporting that the white house has begun
”an investigation”
into the crime that trump never committed- his “perfect” phone call and how it all unraveled...
idiots.
there is a proper name for this “investigation”
it is called- RETALIATION!
and is against the law.
djohn2oo8
10-16-2019, 10:15 AM
1184484050330890242
and another one
In the three previous instances of judicial impeachments, however, the House did not approve a resolution explicitly authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The Rules of the House since 1975 have granted committees the power to subpoena witnesses and materials, administer oaths, and meet at any time within the United States—powers that were previously granted through resolutions providing blanket investigatory authorities that were agreed to at the start of a Congress or through authorizing resolutions for each impeachment investigation.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45769.pdf
vy65 true or false?
According to Capitol Hill members, via Politico, House Democrat leadership has taken a climate assessment of democrat House members and Speaker Pelosi announced they will not hold a House impeachment authorization vote. As a direct and specific consequence all committee subpoenas do not carry a penalty for non-compliance.
In the three previous instances of judicial impeachments, however, the House did not approve a resolution explicitly authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The Rules of the House since 1975 have granted committees the power to subpoena witnesses and materials, administer oaths, and meet at any time within the United States—powers that were previously granted through resolutions providing blanket investigatory authorities that were agreed to at the start of a Congress or through authorizing resolutions for each impeachment investigation.
[MENTION=11399]A judicial penalty can only be created if the House votes to authorize an impeachment inquiry. Absent a vote, the Legislative Branch has not established compulsion authority (aka judicial enforcement authority), as they attempt to work through their quasi-constitutional “impeachment inquiry” process.
In the three previous instances of judicial impeachments, however, the House did not approve a resolution explicitly authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The Rules of the House since 1975 have granted committees the power to subpoena witnesses and materials, administer oaths, and meet at any time within the United States—powers that were previously granted through resolutions providing blanket investigatory authorities that were agreed to at the start of a Congress or through authorizing resolutions for each impeachment investigation.
It has long been well established by SCOTUS that Congress has lawful (judicial authority) subpoena powers pursuant to its implied responsibility of legislative oversight. However, that only applies to the powers enumerated in A1§8. Neither foreign policy (Ukraine) nor impeachment have any nexus to A1§8. The customary Legislative Branch subpoena power is limited to their legislative purpose.
There is an elevated level of subpoena, made power possible by SCOTUS precedent, that carries inherent penalties for non-compliance, and is specifically allowed for impeachment investigations. That level of elevated House authority requires a full House authorization vote.
In the three previous instances of judicial impeachments, however, the House did not approve a resolution explicitly authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The Rules of the House since 1975 have granted committees the power to subpoena witnesses and materials, administer oaths, and meet at any time within the United States—powers that were previously granted through resolutions providing blanket investigatory authorities that were agreed to at the start of a Congress or through authorizing resolutions for each impeachment investigation.
In this current example the Legislative Branch is expressing their “impeachment authority” as part of the Legislative Branch purpose. So that raises the issue of an entirely different type of subpoena:… A demand from congress that penetrates the constitutional separation of powers; and further penetrates the legal authority of Executive Branch executive privilege.
No. Hasn't been tested in 46 years. Good luck getting that case to the Supreme Court. This is one of the most retarded SOP arguments I've heard.
It was separately established by SCOTUS during the Nixon impeachment investigation that *IF* the full House votes to have the Judiciary Committee commence an impeachment investigation, then the Judiciary Committee has subpoena power that can overcome executive privilege claims.
The claim made is that there's no penalty for non-complaince. See above.
There has been NO VOTE to create that level of subpoena power.
As a consequence, the House has not created a process to penetrate the constitutionally inherent separation of powers, and/or, the legally recognized firewall known as ‘executive privilege’. The House must vote to authorize the committee impeachment investigation, and through that process the committee gains judicial enforcement authority. This creates the penalty for non-compliance with an impeachment subpoena.
In the three previous instances of judicial impeachments, however, the House did not approve a resolution explicitly authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The Rules of the House since 1975 have granted committees the power to subpoena witnesses and materials, administer oaths, and meet at any time within the United States—powers that were previously granted through resolutions providing blanket investigatory authorities that were agreed to at the start of a Congress or through authorizing resolutions for each impeachment investigation.
A demand letter only becomes a “subpoena”, technically meaning: ‘a request for the production of documents with a penalty for non-compliance’, when the committee has judicial enforcement authority. That process establishes an enforcement penalty.
The current demand letters cannot carry a penalty because the demands do not contain judicial enforcement authority…. because the impeachment investigation was not authorized by the chamber.
The reason judicial enforcement authority is constitutionally required is because creating Judicial enforcement authority, creating the penalty for non-compliance, gives the Executive Branch a process to appeal any legislative demand via the Judicial Branch (federal courts).
Absent a penalty for non-compliance, which factually makes a subpoena a ‘subpoena’, the Executive Branch has no process to engage an appellate review by federal courts.
Congress has its own subpoena power. Do you or the author really think only the courts can issue subpoena's?
No sources cited. Nothing actually discussed in the context of what the law or the house bills say. Totally wrong on what powers the Congress has and how it's expanded since the 70s. And a completely tortured prognostication about SOP and what SCOTUS will do.
[MENTION=11399]As a consequence, the House has not created a process to penetrate the constitutionally inherent separation of powers, and/or, the legally recognized firewall known as ‘executive privilege’. The House must vote to authorize the committee impeachment investigation, and through that process the committee gains judicial enforcement authority. This creates the penalty for non-compliance with an impeachment subpoena.
One of the three impeachment inquiries without an authorization vote was the impeachment of Walter L. Nixon. Which gave us the Nixon case. Which held that these issues are non-justiciable political questions. This is flat out incorrect.
gr:lolcer
djohn2oo8
10-16-2019, 10:49 AM
One of the three impeachment inquiries without an authorization vote was the impeachment of Walter L. Nixon. Which gave us the Nixon case. Which held that these issues are non-justiciable political questions. This is flat out incorrect.
gr:lolcer
:lmao Gotdayummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
djohn2oo8
10-16-2019, 10:49 AM
1184480764970393602
In the three previous instances of judicial impeachments, however, the House did not approve a resolution explicitly authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The Rules of the House since 1975 have granted committees the power to subpoena witnesses and materials, administer oaths, and meet at any time within the United States—powers that were previously granted through resolutions providing blanket investigatory authorities that were agreed to at the start of a Congress or through authorizing resolutions for each impeachment investigation.
In the three previous instances of judicial impeachments, however, the House did not approve a resolution explicitly authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The Rules of the House since 1975 have granted committees the power to subpoena witnesses and materials, administer oaths, and meet at any time within the United States—powers that were previously granted through resolutions providing blanket investigatory authorities that were agreed to at the start of a Congress or through authorizing resolutions for each impeachment investigation.
In the three previous instances of judicial impeachments, however, the House did not approve a resolution explicitly authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The Rules of the House since 1975 have granted committees the power to subpoena witnesses and materials, administer oaths, and meet at any time within the United States—powers that were previously granted through resolutions providing blanket investigatory authorities that were agreed to at the start of a Congress or through authorizing resolutions for each impeachment investigation.
No. Hasn't been tested in 46 years. Good luck getting that case to the Supreme Court. This is one of the most retarded SOP arguments I've heard.
The claim made is that there's no penalty for non-complaince. See above.
In the three previous instances of judicial impeachments, however, the House did not approve a resolution explicitly authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The Rules of the House since 1975 have granted committees the power to subpoena witnesses and materials, administer oaths, and meet at any time within the United States—powers that were previously granted through resolutions providing blanket investigatory authorities that were agreed to at the start of a Congress or through authorizing resolutions for each impeachment investigation.
Congress has its own subpoena power. Do you or the author really think only the courts can issue subpoena's?
No sources cited. Nothing actually discussed in the context of what the law or the house bills say. Totally wrong on what powers the Congress has and how it's expanded since the 70s. And a completely tortured prognostication about SOP and what SCOTUS will do.
:bobo
djohn2oo8
10-16-2019, 10:53 AM
https://www.lawfareblog.com/must-house-vote-authorize-impeachment-inquiry
:lmao :lmao :lmao TSA
:bobo
I think the shit you're posting is ignorant partisan drivel, but I'll give you mad props for at least wanting a discussion as opposed to the other cowards on here.
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 10:59 AM
https://patpgmr.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/levinfacebook.png
:lol
I think the shit you're posting is ignorant partisan drivel, but I'll give you mad props for at least wanting a discussion as opposed to the other cowards on here.
I'm here to learn while doing as little possible on my end :lol I appreciate you taking the time.
djohn2oo8
10-16-2019, 11:14 AM
I'm here to learn while doing as little possible on my end :lol
You certainly learn as little as possible
You certainly learn as little as possible
I've learned you are a bitch ass welcher.
I've learned you don't have $2000 to your name.
I've learned you ran from the ST fantasy league because of me.
I've learned you are a bitch ass welcher.
I've learned you don't have $2000 to your name.
I've learned you ran from the ST fantasy league because of me.:claw
boutons_deux
10-16-2019, 11:36 AM
House Democrats threaten Giuliani with jail for contempt — but some lawmakers say that fight is a waste of time
Democratic lawmakers went on the record to threaten Rudy Giuliani with jail for contempt, while gun-shy representatives hid behind their aides to express discomfort with punitive measures.
President Donald Trump’s personal attorney has thumbed his nose at House Democrats,
saying he would ignore a subpoena he was served for documents related to his efforts to press Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden,
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/house-democrats-threaten-giuliani-with-jail-for-contempt-but-some-lawmakers-say-that-fight-is-a-waste-of-time/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/house-democrats-threaten-giuliani-with-jail-for-contempt-but-some-lawmakers-say-that-fight-is-a-waste-of-time/)
goddman Dem wimps.
Repugs would throw a subpoena-refusing Dem Julie Annie in jail
Letting Julie Annie escape a subpoena shows others that it can be done, and they will do it.
boutons_deux
10-16-2019, 11:52 AM
Feds Nab Fourth Defendant In Case Against Giuliani Pals At JFK Airport In New York
https://cdn.talkingpointsmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/26169598_1836800289678165_306759851587161212_n-1-804x603.jpg
another slimebag that Trash doesn't know
David Correia, the last defendant at large (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/fourth-defendant-in-giuliani-pals-alleged-schemes-remains-at-large) in alleged schemes tied to longtime pals of Rudy Giuliani’s, was arrested at JFK Wednesday morning
Correia is a longtime business partner of Igor Fruman and Lev Parnas, two Soviet-born American businessmen.
The three – along with Andrey Kukushkin – were indicted last week (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/giuliani-pals-tied-to-ukraine-scheme-arrested-on-campaign-finance-charges) on charges related to
an alleged criminal campaign finance scheme to subvert federal reporting requirements and funnel money into GOP congressional campaigns.
Correia is the last of the four defendants to enter federal custody. He is scheduled to be arraigned tomorrow in Manhattan federal court along with his other three co-defendants.
Correia is a director with Parnas at Fraud Guarantee, a Boca Raton-based firm that offers anti-fraud insurance to investors. Reuters reported on Tuesday that
Giuliani had been paid $500,000 by the firm.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/feds-nab-fourth-defendant-in-case-against-giuliani-pals-at-jfk-airport-in-new-york (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/feds-nab-fourth-defendant-in-case-against-giuliani-pals-at-jfk-airport-in-new-york)
ducks
10-16-2019, 12:00 PM
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job
boutons_deux
10-16-2019, 12:08 PM
Trash throws Julie Annie under the bus, implying that Trash had nothing to do with it
Looks like Julie Annie is the scapegoat
Trump Bearhugs Rudy, But Suggests Ukraine Scheme Was Giuliani’s Idea
Trump also notably attempted to wash his hands a bit of his tag-team Ukrainian pressure campaign with Giuliani,
by repeatedly painting the endeavor — to push the Ukrainian government to investigate the Biden family — as a very Giuliani-led effort.
“So, Rudy was a great prosecutor. He was the best mayor in the history of New York as far as I can see. I think he’s pretty much acknowledged what he did with crime and everything,” Trump said Wednesday morning.
“When he saw what was going on with our election of 2016,
the election I won, but the election that was absolutely corrupted by things that took place in government.” :lol
Trump repeatedly pointed to the “tremendous corruption” that took place during the 2016 election :lol
— and reiterated how much it “incensed” his lawyer Giuliani. :lol
Rudy Guiliani was seeking out corruption, mostly in the 2016 election. :lol
There was tremendous corruption, :lol I think even you would admit that,” :lol
Rudy Guiliani, because he was very, very incensed at the horrible things that he saw :lol as are many people,” :lol
When asked if Giuliani operated as a foreign agent, Trump demurred. :lol
“I don’t know what he did. You have to ask Rudy those questions. Don’t ask me. :lol
Pure corruption,” Trump said, before switching gears to divulge that
he’s still asking the FBI about where the “server” is. :lol
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-giuliani-embrace-paints-probe-giuliani-idea
djohn2oo8
10-16-2019, 01:47 PM
1184536927317479429
lol bye Rudy
boutons_deux
10-16-2019, 01:56 PM
1184536927317479429
lol bye Rudy
Los Tres Amigos!
EU ambassador Sondland described as ‘potential national security risk’ by ex-Trump official
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/eu-ambassador-sondland-described-as-potential-national-security-risk-by-ex-trump-official-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1739 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/eu-ambassador-sondland-described-as-potential-national-security-risk-by-ex-trump-official-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1739)
https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewedit.files.wordpress.com %2F2015%2F01%2Famigos_320.jpg&w=400&c=sc&poi=face&q=85
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 02:25 PM
https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1184533829446447104?s=19
Colludy = f:lolcked
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 02:30 PM
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1184551124717539328?s=19
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 02:37 PM
Don the MF'N Con
https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1184550184958738432?s=19
:lmao at this asswipe
djohn2oo8
10-16-2019, 02:40 PM
1184541997048258565
If it’s what you say it is...... :)
Chris
10-16-2019, 02:41 PM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1184498086598578176?s=19
koriwhat
10-16-2019, 02:51 PM
Simple. They are gathering more and more evidence on purpose. Why?
1) Trump wants this over with. I say let it linger. He's a healthy, fit, stable genius, so his 70 year old heart can take it, right? :)
2) The more evidence they expose, it gives independents something to chew on as we get ready for the 2020 Senate elections. All those Repugs who see clear evidence of his wrong doing, yet still vote NOT to impeach by 67%, simply put, they = f:lolcked
3) The more evidence they get will get turned over to Mueller. Remember, DOJ won't insight a sitting President, but Mueller said his ass is grass be it now, or 4 years from now (if it comes to that; hope not tho). All that shit talk on Mueller's "Witch Hunt" will be remembered. :lol
4) Adam Schiff can arrest more Trumpettes in his inner circle. I'm sure my man Michael Cohen (who is willing to sing like Whitney Houston) is gonna feed more dirt to Adam, etc. to further peel back more evidence against that Orange fucker. Stay tuned for that shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. :rollin :lmao :rollin
So yeah, impeaching is cool, but I want the Dems to drain that red swamp. There's a lot of layers to Trump's corruption. I'm sure Paul Manafort will start singing too.
More to follow on that vote. There is much more leads to follow though. I'll keep you posted. :toast
what a crock of shit that whole post of yours is.
Just a reminder
https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1184210384519077894?s=19
you listen to BETA? that dude flops around more than a fish out of water and also lives up to his nickname beta because he'd be nothing without his wife's estate. fuck that clown!
When RGB croaks or quits, they’ll vote. Can’t let him nominate another SCJ.
exactly
Chris
10-16-2019, 03:02 PM
what a crock of shit that whole post of yours is.
Pretty cringe tbh...but this is the same guy who posts tweets from Aunt Crabby and hates white people because of their skin color.
AaronY
10-16-2019, 03:06 PM
Pretty cringe tbh...but this is the same guy who posts tweets from Aunt Crabby and hates white people because of their skin color.
this guy is literally your hero Chris
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGfNDTRWwAI0H8V?format=jpg&name=medium
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1184498086598578176?s=19
Almost as soon as her testimony began, the proceeding was disrupted by a partisan dispute. Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) attempted to sit in on the deposition “as a member of Congress,” he said, arguing that “if Adam Schiff and the House Democrats were so proud of their work, they would be willing to show it.” Gaetz sits on the Judiciary Committee but not on any of the three panels conducting the impeachment inquiry.
Schiff (Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and the Democrats’ point man on the impeachment probe, objected to Gaetz joining. The question was then put to a parliamentarian, who decided that Gaetz should leave the room, which he did.
Cucked by a p:lolrl:lolment:lolri:loln
Terrified of VY
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:18 PM
what a crock of shit that whole post of yours is.
you listen to BETA? that dude flops around more than a fish out of water and also lives up to his nickname beta because he'd be nothing without his wife's estate. fuck that clown!
exactly
We'll see my nigglet :lol
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:20 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1184563674134003712?s=19
Good. Fuckerberg helped Trump along with Cambridge Analytica steal the 2016 election with all their disinformation and lies. They decived millions of voters. Fuck him and Facebook tbh.
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:21 PM
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1184564634432528385?s=19
:)
djohn2oo8
10-16-2019, 03:25 PM
1184564065320034305
tough scene
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:27 PM
https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1184559361638748161?s=19
:lol
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:28 PM
1184564065320034305
tough scene
David Dennison be like
https://media.giphy.com/media/qPRadyDnFaKFW/giphy.gif
:rollin :lmao :rollin
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:33 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1184567667543248896?s=19
:lol
ducks
10-16-2019, 03:34 PM
Leon copper man if warren is president stock market go down 25 percent !
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:35 PM
https://twitter.com/maddow/status/1184567610077265923?s=19
ducks
10-16-2019, 03:36 PM
Nancy is a third rate idiot
Obama
Wanted out of there
She was fucking his balls then
boutons_deux
10-16-2019, 03:37 PM
Pelosi should offer Trash and Pince a deal: resign in disgrace, or both will be impeached in disgrace, I have all the votes I need, thank you.
"I'd make that deal. Damn good deal" -- Lieu Tenant Aldo Raines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE4hEMBYbTI
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:37 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1184568525043597312?s=19
SMH
Chris
10-16-2019, 03:39 PM
https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1184522257521086468?s=19
Chris
10-16-2019, 03:41 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1184569598370373632?s=19
Chris
10-16-2019, 03:42 PM
https://twitter.com/RepAndyBiggsAZ/status/1184497784457699328?s=19
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:43 PM
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1184569628925812742?s=19
Chris
10-16-2019, 03:50 PM
https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/status/1184221539480326146?s=19
DNC writing the script for Mockingbird Media
spurraider21
10-16-2019, 03:51 PM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1184498086598578176?s=19
https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1184522257521086468?s=19
https://twitter.com/RepAndyBiggsAZ/status/1184497784457699328?s=19
looks like they all got their talking points from the mockingbird media amirite?
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:55 PM
https://twitter.com/BelkissObadia/status/1184311165595389952?s=19
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:57 PM
https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1184560369802633217?s=19
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 03:59 PM
They bout to sell him out one by one
https://twitter.com/DeadlineWH/status/1184573705176915975?s=19
Bout time
:lol "Breaking.. a trend!"
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 04:05 PM
https://twitter.com/RepTedLieu/status/1184573432555560962?s=19
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 04:06 PM
https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1184507375140651008?s=19
:lol
Paco stop spamming bullshit. What about your old booty lip dick ass butt?
ducks
10-16-2019, 04:26 PM
What has ted lie do for his state ?
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 04:31 PM
https://twitter.com/DemocracyJourno/status/1184495497739829254?s=19
:wow
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 04:32 PM
Paco stop spamming bullshit. What about your old booty lip dick ass butt?
:lol
Not spamming. Everything I posted is related to Trump's inevitable impeachmentPERIOD.
Spurminator
10-16-2019, 04:39 PM
this guy is literally your hero Chris
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGfNDTRWwAI0H8V?format=jpg&name=medium
Jesus Christ when did Trey Gowdy morph into Roger Stone?
:lol
Not spamming. Everything I posted is related to Trump's inevitable impeachmentPERIOD.
Paco you are doing a good job , don't listen to him.
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 04:51 PM
Paco you are doing a good job , don't listen to him.
:lol
Thanks :tu
Chris
10-16-2019, 04:54 PM
Lambert falling for an obvious chop :lol
Almost as soon as her testimony began, the proceeding was disrupted by a partisan dispute. Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) attempted to sit in on the deposition “as a member of Congress,” he said, arguing that “if Adam Schiff and the House Democrats were so proud of their work, they would be willing to show it.” Gaetz sits on the Judiciary Committee but not on any of the three panels conducting the impeachment inquiry.
Schiff (Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and the Democrats’ point man on the impeachment probe, objected to Gaetz joining. The question was then put to a parliamentarian, who decided that Gaetz should leave the room, which he did.
Cucked by a p:lolrl:lolment:lolri:loln
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ThoughtfulInfatuatedItaliangreyhound-size_restricted.gif
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 05:24 PM
https://twitter.com/JaxAlemany/status/1184221539480326146?s=19
DNC writing the script for Mockingbird Media You've been repeating the Republican talking points for years.
Don't you realize that?
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 05:46 PM
:lmao
1184513732178825218
Also:
1184529296855064581
:rollin whinin' Don
And....
1184606518756413442
An exceptionally stupid day from an exceptionally stupid president. Don't be a tough guy!
koriwhat
10-16-2019, 06:21 PM
lol at the losers club advocating for the 4th reich DNC retards. it's quite the shit show that you bitches are willingly bending over for those who give 0 fucks about you, your family, your friends, and this country but keep cheerleading the commies on if yall like. cheer them on until the bitter end when you're in their gulag with the rest of us one day in the near future if you get what yall want.
boutons_deux
10-16-2019, 06:25 PM
If Trash were a CEO, the board would dump in the street in 5 minutes.
Same with Kavanaugh, having a fucking emotional breakdown in a fucking job interview, and still get hired?
Fuck all Repugs and you Repug voters to hell.
Chris
10-16-2019, 06:26 PM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1184568428650213378?s=19
lol at the losers club advocating for the 4th reich DNC retards. it's quite the shit show that you bitches are willingly bending over for those who give 0 fucks about you, your family, your friends, and this country but keep cheerleading the commies on if yall like. cheer them on until the bitter end when you're in their gulag with the rest of us one day in the near future if you get what yall want.
Not only are those two not the same thing, they literally fought a war against each other.
now cue the highschool burnout screeching ...
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 06:28 PM
:lol white dudes gettin' chippy
They ain't gonna get anything until Nancy says they can.
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 06:30 PM
Not only are those two not the same thing, they literally fought a war against each other.
now cue the highschool burnout screeching ...:lol Trump absolutely depends on his supporters' being low information ranters.
koriwhat
10-16-2019, 06:33 PM
Not only are those two not the same thing, they literally fought a war against each other.
now cue the highschool burnout screeching ...
i never knew there was a literal 4th reich... oh wait
oh and this fictitious reich fought commies? :lmao
Chris
10-16-2019, 06:35 PM
wrong
Goebbels:
Communism. Jewry. I am a German Communist.
Peter Longerich, Goebbels: A Biography, New York, NY, Random House (2015) p. 26, “Erinnerungsblätter,” 27, (diary entry: 1924)
The social is a stopgap. Socialism is the ideology of the future.
Open Letter to Ernst Graf zu Reventlow in the Völkische Freiheit, 1925, as quoted in Goebbels: A Biography, Peter Longerich, Random House, 2015, p. 55
Capitalism is the immoral distribution of capital… Germany will become free at that moment when the thirty millions on the left and the thirty millions on the right make common cause. Only one movement is capable of doing this: National Socialism, embodied in one Führer – Adolf Hitler.
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 06:38 PM
Chris graduated from Trump University and is working on his masters at Prager University.
i never knew there was a literal 4th reich... oh wait
oh and this fictitious reich fought commies? :lmao
So you weren't calling democrats Nazi's? Please elaborate what the fourth reich is then
benefactor
10-16-2019, 06:44 PM
Oh shit it's Joey! Hell yeah Joey you show these losers what a true, well informed argument looks like. You know I always love your insights and your detailed, point by point rebuttals. Used the one you gave me the other day and everyone was impressed by my intellect. I had to credit you though because they knew there's no way I was that well versed in political commentary. Keep on keeping on buddy!
Lol D'Souza talking points.
If Herr Goebbels was a friend of the proletariat, why did the national socialists arrest communists when they came to power?
Here's a great article you won't read because you're terrified. https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/
Oh shit it's Joey! Hell yeah Joey you show these losers what a true, well informed argument looks like. You know I always love your insights and your detailed, point by point rebuttals. Used the one you gave me the other day and everyone was impressed by my intellect. I had to credit you though because they knew there's no way I was that well versed in political commentary. Keep on keeping on buddy!
The repartee! The bon mots! the tete-a-tete! He's our own Voltaire.
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 06:49 PM
Lol D'Souza talking points.
If Herr Goebbels was a friend of the proletariat, why did the national socialists arrest communists when they came to power?
Here's a great article you won't read because you're terrified. https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/SNOPES IS LITERALLY NAZI COMMIES THAT DUDE WITH AN ACCENT ON ALEX JONES SAID
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 07:06 PM
https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1184559361638748161?s=19
:lolNotice this letter is from a week ago. Erdoğan told him to go fuck himself.
Dennison is the weakest president in US history.
ducks
10-16-2019, 07:13 PM
He could out bench press you !
boutons_deux
10-16-2019, 07:15 PM
Trash's letter out-onions the Onion
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 07:21 PM
He could out bench press you !No.
boutons_deux
10-16-2019, 07:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyclqo_AV2M
ducks
10-16-2019, 07:22 PM
No.
Yes by atleast 40 pounds
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 07:23 PM
Yes by atleast 40 poundsWhat does Dennison say he benches?
Link, please.
Notice this letter is from a week ago. Erdoğan told him to go fuck himself.
Dennison is the weakest president in US history.
Is that actually real though?
DarrinS
10-16-2019, 07:32 PM
He could out bench press you !
This is dumb, dude
ducks
10-16-2019, 07:36 PM
What does Dennison say he benches?
Link, please.
Link what you bench press the keg of beer
Lol
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 07:37 PM
Is that actually real though?
Yeah, Fox Business published. Others verified.
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 07:37 PM
Link what you bench press the keg of beer
LolThose are pretty heavy IIRC.
benefactor
10-16-2019, 07:43 PM
He could out bench press you !
:lol...shut the fuck up ducks
pgardn
10-16-2019, 08:13 PM
lol at the losers club advocating for the 4th reich DNC retards. it's quite the shit show that you bitches are willingly bending over for those who give 0 fucks about you, your family, your friends, and this country but keep cheerleading the commies on if yall like. cheer them on until the bitter end when you're in their gulag with the rest of us one day in the near future if you get what yall want.
Wtf does this even mean?
Your parents really warped you. I have heard of rebelling against your family, but doing so in such an incoherent manner is disturbing. What did they do to you?
Yeah, Fox Business published. Others verified.
Jesus
clambake
10-16-2019, 08:19 PM
ducks, say titties again.
LkrFan
10-16-2019, 08:34 PM
ducks has saggy titties.
Pr:lolbaby
Chris
10-16-2019, 08:43 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184638812150009858?s=19
called that shit
Pavlov
10-16-2019, 08:47 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184638812150009858?s=19
called that shit It's not unlawful. He won't be censured.
pgardn
10-16-2019, 08:52 PM
https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1184559361638748161?s=19
:lol
No way.
Lie to me, this is a joke?
pgardn
10-16-2019, 08:53 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184638812150009858?s=19
called that shit
He made fun of Trump.
He mocked him and Trump does not get it.
ducks
10-16-2019, 08:53 PM
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