trump impeachment watch thread

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[RandomGuy]

WASHINGTON, Nov 25 (Reuters) - Former White House counsel Don McGahn must comply with a congressional subpoena seeking his testimony about President Donald Trump's efforts to impede the now-completed federal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election, a judge ruled on Monday.

In an important case about presidential powers, U.S. District Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson in Washington rejected the Trump administration's legal claim that current and former senior White House officials cannot be compelled to testify before Congress.

McGahn, who left his post in October 2018, last May defied a subpoena from the Democratic-led House of Representatives Judiciary Committee for testimony. The subpoena was issued months before the House opened an impeachment inquiry in September into the Republican president's actions concerning Ukraine. The committee sued McGahn in August to try to enforce the subpoena.

Jackson's ruling concerns only McGahn's testimony. But by rejecting Trump's key legal argument for defying congressional subpoenas it could give other former and current presidential advisers a legal basis for cooperating with the ongoing House impeachment inquiry, legal experts said.

The Trump administration has refused to cooperate with the impeachment inquiry as well as other Democratic-led investigations and has directed current and former officials to defy subpoenas for documents and testimony. There are other legal fights over subpoenas seeking Trump tax and financial records.

McGahn emerged as a pivotal figure in the 448-page report completed in March by former Special Counsel Robert Mueller that detailed Russian interference in the 2016 election, through a campaign of hacking and propaganda, as well as extensive contacts between Trump's campaign and Moscow.

Mueller's report, released in redacted form in April, revealed about 10 instances in which Trump took actions aimed at impeding the investigation. Mueller did not exonerate Trump of obstruction of justice, though Attorney General William Barr, a Trump appointee, afterward decided that the president had not committed obstruction.

When the committee sued McGahn in August, it said it needed to speak with him to help lawmakers decide whether to include Trump's actions toward the Mueller investigation as part of an impeachment inquiry.

According to the Mueller report, McGahn told Mueller's team that Trump repeatedly instructed him to have the special counsel removed and then asked him to deny having been so instructed when word of the action emerged in news reports. McGahn did not carry out either instruction.

McGahn's relationship with Trump was strained by events of the Mueller investigation. Trump replaced him with Pat Cipollone, who still holds the job.

Several aides and advisers to Trump were charged in the Mueller investigation. All but two pleaded guilty, while longtime adviser Roger Stone and former campaign chairman Paul Manafort were convicted by juries. Mueller said he found insufficient evidence to charge Trump with criminal conspiracy concerning Russia.

House Democratic leaders have focused their impeachment inquiry on Ukraine, but have discussed pursuing a broader count of obstruction of Congress among any articles of impeachment - formal charges - brought against Trump. McGahn's testimony could bolster that part of their inquiry.

House passage of any articles of impeachment would lead to a trial in the Senate on whether to convict Trump and remove him from office. The Senate is controlled by Trump's fellow Republicans, who have shown little support for removing him.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-judge-backs-house-subpoena-225148350.html

(Reuters, via Yahoo finance)

[RandomGuy]

A court ruling could open door to Bolton testimony in impeachment inquiry

A federal judge on Monday is expected to rule on whether the U.S. House of Representatives can compel the testimony of former White House counsel Don McGahn.

And the judge has signaled she will side with Congress.

That ruling could provide cover for other current and former White House officials, such as erstwhile National Security Adviser John Bolton, to testify before lawmakers in a presidential impeachment inquiry.

Bolton has so far refused to appear before lawmakers looking into whether Donald Trump abused his office by trying to pressure Ukraine into digging up dirt on a potential political rival.

Numerous witnesses testified that Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani led the effort, despite protest from diplomats and members of the National Security Council.

McGahn ruling could open up the floodgates.

Bolton next? That would be gooood.

[Spurs Homer]

We are dealing with criminals - with the criminal traitor being the ring leader -

please know that they will not comply with anything.
It is what criminals do.

People who have respect for the rule of law would comply with a judges orders.

Trump has zero respect and gives zero shits about law -and above all -

Putin is salivating at the thought of ordering Trump to defy even a court order - thereby causing a REAL Constitutional crisis.

SO

get ready to hear that phrase over and over when trump orders his criminals to tell the judge to go fuck herself.

[RandomGuy]

https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/09/Greta-Thunberg-How-Dare-You-640x335.jpg

Feel free to criticize Trump at any time, Darrin. :lol

I think that cult listing of "signs you might be in a cult" hit too close to home for you. It was kind of scary how many parallels it had with you Trumptards.

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[Splits]

https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/09/Greta-Thunberg-How-Dare-You-640x335.jpg

:lmao scared of a teenage girl

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I expect ALL of Trash's WH mafiya still refuse to testify and it will go to SCOTUS.

Dems should ask SCOTUS for immediate ruling

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If only Dems had enough balls to compel all the traitors to testify...

Pompeo. Mulvaney.Julie-yanni. All of them.

They don't.

Subpoena the Dear Leader himself.

[Reck]

https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/09/Greta-Thunberg-How-Dare-You-640x335.jpg

when you are cornered or cant respond to a question, post a picture of a teenage girl because GOTCHA motherfucker!

[Spurs Homer]

Subpoena the Dear Leader himself.

the cult would lose its collective mind and threaten civil war -

but it would be awesome

[Winehole23]

Wow. McGahn has the goods on the obstruction of justice cases outlined in the Mueller report that TSA and Darrin won't read.

Going to surprise the fuck out of them, if he doesn't plead the 5th. Sondland was big... but this has the potential of being much, much worse.Has it occurred to you that it no longer matters how much worse things will get?

Essentially, the right wing prefers bare knuckles fascism to republican niceties.

Right wing is down with the Trump family cult. It doesn't want a fluid alternation of power.



"One ring to rule the all, one ring to find them...etc.,"




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Nazgul!

[LkrFan]

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[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/ElizabethEThorp/status/1199154760265404421?s=19

$14K... How do politicians like this keep getting away with that?

[LkrFan]

$14K... How do politicians like this keep getting away with that?

Trump's GOP. SMH

[Chris]

Schiff says he wants to speak with constituents before deciding on impeachment

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/471824-schiff-wants-to-discuss-with-constituents-before-deciding-on-impeachment?amp

[RandomGuy]

Has it occurred to you that it no longer matters how much worse things will get?

Essentially, the right wing prefers bare knuckles fascism to republican niceties.

Right wing is down with the Trump family cult. It doesn't want a fluid alternation of power.



"One ring to rule the all, one ring to find them...etc.,"




(Eye of Sauron)










Nazgul!

That is what appears to be happening. The right has been losing any pretense of giving a shit about democracy and that process started when they gerrymandered the fuck out of things in 2010 and before.

The smarter ones like TSA don't believe the bullshit, and the brainwashed idiots like Chris don't care.

At this point it is really a bit like a bully trying to pick on someone. "own the libs" is the only thing that matters.

The evangelical right is Wormtongue clouding the mind of the king.

Defections of moderates will continue.

https://politicaldig.com/lifelong-gop-voter-says-he-is-disgusted-by-republicans-in-scathing-letter-announcing-hes-leaving-the-party/

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"Defections of moderates will continue."

the handful of defectors won't stop the much more numreous Repug faithful who know where their money and power comes from.

The continued degradation and descent of the Repug party as cheap whores to the traitorous, rapacious oligarchy is why

America is fucked and unfuckable.

Assuming they keep the House and with the WH, the BigDollar Corporate Dems will not even try to repair the destruction of US govt since 2010, thereby enabling the oligarchy to continue and benefit from the control of America.

eg, have the HouseDems, now in control of spending for two years, refinanced, eg, the IRS after the Repugs defunded IRS by nearly $1B?

The "nondelegation" issue before SCOTUS, with sexual predator/drunken holdout K signalling he's ready to join the other 4 SCOTUS whores, could disempower Congress and empower the Federal judiciary which has been corrupted for decades by the oligarchy's young, incompetent, inexperienced, extreme right wing ideologues in robes.

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Nondelegation doctrine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondelegation_doctrine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondelegation_doctrine)

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Brett Kavanaugh Is Ready to Join the Supreme Court’s Conservatives to Tear Down Key Federal Regulations

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/kavanaugh-nondelegation-gundy-supreme-court.html

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1199358447302692865?s=19

Don't forget, Pence knew. President Pelosi will Make America Great Again. :tu

[LkrFan]

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https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1199358447302692865?s=19

Don't forget, Pence knew. President Pelosi will Make America Great Again. :tu

No, she won't. She has not been doing shit after winning the House in 2018

[LkrFan]

No, she won't. She has not been doing shit after winning the House in 2018

Adam Schiff is running the Impeachment Inquiry. You honestly think Pelosi isn't helping him behind the scenes? Remember, Schiff is an attorney so he is the ideal candidate to run these proceedings.

Just because she's not front and center of the news cycle doesn't mean she's not doing anything. IJS

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Adam Schiff is running the Impeachment Inquiry. You honestly think Pelosi isn't helping him

Schiff is out, has punted to the Judiciary committee

Pelosi BLOCKED impeachment after Mueller documented 9? cases of Trash's impeachable obstruction.

And I bet she will limit the A of I only to Ukraine, rather than PILING HIGH all the impeach shit Trash has committed.

She's the worst of the worst of Corporatist BigDollar Dem millionaire establishment.

She has blackballed/defunded anybody who works for challengers to Dem incumbents, to prevent anymore of The Squad types.

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House committee sues Attorney General Barr in wake of ruling declaring ‘presidents are not kings’

The House Oversight Committee wasted no time in filing a

lawsuit (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/26/oversight-committee-sues-barr-ross-over-2020-census-documents-073949) against Attorney General Bill Barr (https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/?s=Bill+Barr) and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross (https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/?s=Wilbur+Ross),

suing both Trump appointees for failure to respond to subpoenas demanding documents.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/house-committee-sues-attorney-general-barr-in-wake-of-ruling-declaring-presidents-are-not-kings/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3105 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/house-committee-sues-attorney-general-barr-in-wake-of-ruling-declaring-presidents-are-not-kings/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3105)

My guess is both will ignore the lawsuit as a delaying tactic.

[RandomGuy]

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tldr

[RandomGuy]

Lol Pompeo. Good luck running for senator

Trump spreading taint.

That and Huckabee Sanders says she is called to run for Arkansas governor.

[boutons_deux]

Chairman Jerry Nadler throws down gauntlet in letter notifying Trump of Dec. 4 impeachment hearing

The House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday announced that it would hold its first impeachment hearing on Dec. 4.

the first hearing would examine the “grounds for impeachment.”

The panel will feature constitutional scholars.



Nadler welcomed Trump to name an attorney to represent him,

but made it clear that he would move forward with the hearing regardless.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/chairman-jerry-nadler-throws-down-gauntlet-in-letter-notifying-trump-of-dec-4-impeachment-hearing/

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/HouseJudiciary/status/1199412292888207362?s=19

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MEET THE DEMOCRATS’ HIRED IMPEACHMENT GUN

The New York–based corporate litigator joined the staff of the House Judiciary Committee in February as the panel’s hired-gun inquisitor for its myriad investigations into Donald Trump.

And when the Judiciary Committee considers articles of impeachment in the coming weeks, it is

Berke who will be at the center of the case, either in front of the cameras or behind the scenes.

“He’s a tough criminal lawyer,” says Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler, a New York Democrat.

“He knows what he’s doing. He’s skillful, he thinks strategically and he’s excellent.”

After a federal judge ruled Monday that former White House counsel Don McGahn (https://www.ozy.com/politics-and-power/the-rocker-quiet-man-heading-trumps-supreme-court-nomination/87816/) must testify to Congress, it raises the prospect of another high-profile Berke questioning about the Mueller report coming soon.

But for Ukraine, Berke must draw on a different skill set:

weaving together a narrative that
the president abused his office
when he pressured Ukraine to commit to investigations that could help him politically,
deploying personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and others in a shadow foreign policy.

“We need everyday folks to understand what the facts are :lol FAT CHANCE! :lol

and what’s at stake and what we can do about it, and

Barry is one of the best at telling a story like that and making a case like that,”

Despite Berke’s career defending well-off clients, people in his legal circles say it makes sense he would work with Democrats on a case that involves the public interest.

Early on, he worked with the Federal Defenders of New York, a nonprofit dedicated to defending poor people accused of federal crimes.

“I’ve seen him do things in a courtroom that I wouldn’t have the courage to do,”

Berke, Eisen and Nadler could recently be seen in the Capitol complex heading into a sensitive compartmented information facility

https://www.ozy.com/news-and-politics/the-impeachment-inquisitor-making-democrats-case/245595/?utm_term=OZY&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DD_2019_11_26&utm_content=Final

So Berke is to be Dem's pit bull. He certainly chewed Levandowski to pieces

[FlAVaK]

Watergate, but with idiots.


https://youtu.be/FVFdsl29s_Q

[Reck]

Impeachment is doing so bad that they're set to begin a second phase of it starting December 4. :lol Chris

[Chris]

Hunting for Hunter: Evidence Reveals Biden, Burisma Ukraine Bond Scandal, Tied to U.S. Firm



“Are we going to be sending massive amounts of money to a country and they’re corrupt and they steal the money and it goes into everybody’s bank account?”

This was the infamous rhetorical question posed by President Donald Trump which set off a hurricane of criticism from his political opponents on Capitol Hill. Immediately, the President was accused of “exaggerating” Ukrainian corruption, which, let’s remind ourselves, has triggered the Democrat-led House impeachment proceedings against Trump. According to Democrats, Trump is alleged to have pressured the newly elected President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, in order to urge Kiev authorities to start an investigation into American Hunter Biden’s involvement in corruption schemes – in exchange for prompt military and financial aid. This wouldn’t normally have garnered so much attention, if not for the fact that Hunter Biden is the son of the ex-US Vice President and 2020 Democratic Party presidential candidate Joe Biden. Hence, Trump is being accused of soliciting a ‘Quid Pro Quo’ from a foreign government in order undermine his supposed political rival in the upcoming 2020 election. But it’s only part of the story.

For some reason, many in the US remain unaware that this very same investigation was actually initiated three years earlier by the General Prosecutor’s Office (GPO) of Ukraine, who had been forcibly backed-off looking into Ukrainian gas and energy firm Burisma Holdings as a result of an ultimatum laid down by none other than Joe Biden. Back in 2016, during one of his many official visits to Kiev in 2016, former US Vice President Biden threatened to revoke the decision to allocate $1 billion of credit and loan guarantees if then General Prosecutor Viktor Shokin, who initiated the investigation, was not fired immediately.

Amazingly enough, Joe Biden himself had no scruples about meddling in such a direct and harsh way into Ukrainian government affairs, and even openly bragged about it during a Council on Foreign Relations discussion panel in Washington on January 23, 2018:

“And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from [the President of Ukraine] Poroshenko and from [ex Prime Minister of Ukraine] Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t. So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”

Why is this case so important? The original corruption inquiry three years ago was focused on the illicit activities of one of the biggest private gas-producing companies in Ukraine – Burisma Holdings, owned by Mykola Zlochevsky, the former Minister of Ecology, under the gaze of then President Vikor Yanukovich, where the licenses for new gas deposit developments had been issued by the very ministry headed by Zlochevsky. However, the most significant fact here is this: soon after the February 2014 Maidan coup’ d’etat in Ukraine, Hunter Biden was installed on to the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, supposedly as the head of its legal department, taking home the tidy sum of $83,000 per month. Note that this sum is four times more than the salary of his father as US Vice President.

Another amazing coincidence: at the same time son Hunter is moved into position at Burisma, father Joe comes to Kiev for an official visit, where he urged Ukrainian government to reduce its dependence on Russian natural gas supplies. For whatever reason, the Obama White House chose to ignore what was an obvious conflict of interests. As is obvious from the recent Impeachment Hearings, this denial of any conflict of interest continues to this day by Democrats.

Nevertheless, it was not only the Vice President’s son, who had his finger in the pie of Burisma Holdings. A close friend of John Kerry’s stepson, Devon Archer, was also in the company’s Board of Directors.

If what Serhiy Leschenko, a journalist and former Ukrainian MP, wrote, is anything to go by, after the shift of power in Ukraine the coterie of the General Prosecutor, Yuri Lutsenko, handed over to Trump’s personal attorney Rudolf Guiliani, a document that claimed that in March of 2014 the ex-Minister of Ecology Mykola Zlochevsky suggested to then US Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden, that the profits from Burisma Ltd were to be shared by them and the payments received via Hunter Biden and Devon Archer. In return Zlochevsky actually obtained patronage of the top US officials, and the reputation of his company owing to such “respectable” composition of its Council of Directors, as its reputation rapidly grew in the eyes of its partners, competitors and state bodies.

Not surprisingly, the activities of Burisma Holdings had soon attracted the attention of Ukrainian law enforcement agencies. The company was suspected in tax evasion, money laundering and embezzlement of state funds. Soon after, in January of 2015 the General Prosecutor’s Office, headed by Vitaliy Yarema, put the company’s owner Mykola Zlochevsky on the wanted list. Later, Yarema’s successor in office, Viktor Shokin, continued with the Burisma case, with the aim of mounting an inquiry into corruption allegations, and even started a separate investigation into the activities of the firm’s Board of Directors, which included Hunter Biden. However, you already know the end of the story: after Shokin was fired, the search for Zlochevsky was ended on September 13, 2016, and the criminal cases closed by Yuri Lutsenko. Everything was settled with a payment of $7.5 million in taxes and penalty charges. Thus, Zlochevsky’s initial plan to hire Biden and Archer to provide “cover” worked: his patrons fulfilled his expectations.

Readers should be reminded here, that Washington’s supposedly “solid” nominee for General Prosecutor has made a notorious reputation for himself in Europe due to his drunken brawls in German airports, and who did not even have a law degree, normally a requirement for the country’s top legal enforcement position. The Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian Parliament) even had to adopt a specific law annulling this job requirement in order for him to assume the post. How this passed by the supposed ‘anti-corruption’ mavens at the US Embassy in Kiev would have been a good question for Congressman Schiff’s panel of inquisitors.

There has been a new development in this case recently in Ukraine – with the General Prosecutor’s Office filing new charges against the owner of Burisma on November 14th. Non-aligned MP Andriy Derkach presented the issue (with colleague Oleksandr Dubynsky from the ruling Servant of the People Party) at their joint press-conference on November 20th. Particularly, Derkach said, “According to the charges filed by the GPO against Zlochevsky, Biden and his partners received $16.5 million for their services in regard to Burisma activities. Biden was given money that originated not from successful activities of Burisma, and not from any brilliant business ideas or recommendations. It was obtained by criminal means. This is what GPO claims.”

Indirectly, the MP’s claim were confirmed by prosecutor Kostyantyn Kulyk, who was in charge of Burisma investigation, who stated in one of his recent interviews:

“The funds that entered Burisma’s accounts, had illegal origins. Those two companies were managed, used, by a man close to Taras Kozak. So, the funds that entered Burisma’s accounts had illegal origins, and later, according to the evidence we have, they were transferred to the accounts of four persons, including Hunter Biden’s.”

More interestingly, in an earlier interview with The Hill newspaper in April of 2019, Kulyk revealed another key piece of information: at the time, when the Burisma investigation was underway, then US ambassador Marie Yovanovitch had blocked the visas of GPO officers, in order to disrupt their working visits to the USA where they hoped to share the case files with their American colleagues. “We were supposed to share this information during a working trip to the United States,” said Kulyk, before adding, “However, the [U.S.] ambassador blocked us from obtaining a visa. She didn’t explicitly deny our visa, but also didn’t give it to us.”

More specifically, they had evidence of illicit dealings on the part of Ukrainian businessmen from the inner circle of former Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovich. According to prosecutors, these businessmen had siphoned off embezzled Ukraine state budget funds with the help of an American financial – a firm with connections to high-ranking members of the US Democratic Party establishment.

“This bridge between Burisma and Biden demonstrates to us the ways of siphoning off money: Zlochevsky laundered it for several Yanukovich’s companies at once via his three companies in the Baltic states”, Dubynsky said, which appears to back-up Derkach’s story of how the money laundering operation was being run. “On the whole, it was a global operation which initially looting the money from Ukrainian budget, then transferring it to offshore companies, and finally investing it into Ukrainian state bonds.” Derkach claims reflect the charges brought against Zlochevsky – that he is accused of “legalization (laundering) of the funds obtained illicitly by way of purchase by Franklin Templeton Investments of state bonds to the total sum of $7.4 billion USD.” The MPs pointed out to the findings of the GPO investigations, according to which the criminal money that belonged to Yanukovich’s family and inner circle was transferred to offshore jurisdictions during 2013-2014, and then via Franklin Templeton Investments the money made its way back into Ukraine where it was spent on state bonds. Thus, as Dubynsky emphasizes, the beneficiaries of the scheme had first stolen funds from Ukrainian people, and then returned them to the country in the form of sovereign debt which paid bond holder a very high interest payment. This way, Ukrainian citizens were robbed twice, and all with the help of one criminal scheme with Burisma Holdings at the center of it.

It’s important to note here that Zlochevsky managed to pull it all off owing to his influential American “friends” and Board of Directors mentioned earlier. Complex financial operations were carried out with the help of Valeria Gontareva, the then head of the National Bank of Ukraine, now residing in London – she had negotiated amnesty for bonds which had been previously frozen following the regime change in 2014.

In fact, the scheme was happily picked up by Petro Poroshenko, who kept on increasing Ukraine’s sovereign debt. The algorithm of the corrupt scheme is as follows: with the help of American investment firms, the funds siphoned-off from the state budget were effectively ‘legalized’ by investing into state bonds, with pay-outs of 6 to 8 percent interest in dollars, and 15 to 17 percent in UAH (Ukraine Hryvnya currency). As a result, the sovereign debt has snowballed. Ukraine has to loan more in order to service the old debts. As a result, nearly 40 percent of the current state budget is spent on the reimbursement of the sovereign debt, including inflated state bonds interest rates. “A system of siphoning-off the country’s financial resources has been created by payment of colossal interest sums – 14 to 16 percent annually. That is, we are paying interest for money which was stolen from us. The payment of 440 billion UAH (18.3 billion USD) from state budget annually may be our final step towards default. Ukraine is being turned into a bankrupt country. This can happen either in the end of 2019, or in the early months of 2020,” Dubynsky concludes.

“We will reveal the information about the financial pyramid scheme that was created in Ukraine and developed by everyone beginning with Yanukovich and later by Poroshenko. This system is still working under the guidance of the current managerial board of the National Bank, ensuring that money flows in the interest of people who stole millions of dollars, took it offshore and bought Ukrainian public bonds turning them into the Ukrainian sovereign debt,” said Dubinsky, before adding that, “in both cases of Yanukovich and Poroshenko, Ms. Gontareva and companies she controls were investing the stolen funds.”

A Battle of the Oligarchs you might say, although this narrative was conspicuously absent in the mainstream media and during US House impeachment proceedings.
In the context of Trump-Ukraine scandal that is being built-up by the Democrats and their loyal media, the connection between the above mentioned Franklin Templeton fund and the Democratic Party deserves special attention:

“The son of the Templeton’s founder, John Templeton Jr., was one of the biggest donors of President Obama’s electoral campaign,” Derkach explained at the joint press conference. “One more figure with connections to the fund is Thomas Donilon, the chairman of the BlackRock Investment Institute, the biggest shareholder of Franklin Templeton Investments. It is significant that he (Donilon) had previously served as National Security Advisor to President Obama.”

Based on this, the partisan conflicts of interests extend far beyond the Bidens.

“President Zelensky should pick up the phone, dial Trump and ask for help and cooperation in the fight with corruption, or he should fly to Washington. The issue of fight with international corruption in Ukraine with involvement of US citizens , businessmen and officials should become the key issue at the meeting of the two presidents,” Andriy Derkach emphasizes.

That is exactly what the Democrat-led impeachment inquiry appears to be trying to prevent.

In actuality, the previous phone conversation with Zelensky proved to be costly for Trump, although, judging by the above listed facts and competent accounts, the concerns of American president in regard to the corrupt character of Ukrainian state system were well founded. Ukrainians themselves are far more pessimistic though, a daily reality which is illustrated in this statement with a quote from a sarcastic Facebook post by popular Ukrainian blogger and TV host Oleksiy Durnev, written back in 2015:

“A thought is torturing me in the course of the last several days – that I cannot phone our handlers there in Europe and say: Guys, do not give us money! Our government resembles a hopeless junkie, who is telling his mom that it is better for him to hit up than to suffer from withdrawals. If you want to help us, build factories here, get us employed, pay taxes here, give our agriculture new technologies, give us experts, let our students go for your training courses, but do not give us money, please!”

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Writer Sergey Belous is an independent journalist, photo correspondent and filmmaker. He was covered the war in Donbass since 2014, as well as work in former Yugoslavian countries.

https://21stcenturywire.com/2019/11/26/hunting-for-hunter-new-ukraine-evidence-reveals-biden-burisma-bond-scandal-tied-to-us-firm/

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RepLeeZeldin/status/1199452046337957889?s=19

[Reck]

Hunter is the new BUT HILLARY..:lol Qchris

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1199460836051316736?s=19

[djohn2oo8]

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[Chris]

the WaPo spin :lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

the WaPo spin :lol
It’s directly from the deposition dipshit

[AaronY]

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You should go back to Louise Mensch for da tweets bro..she been having some good ones lately imho

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[djohn2oo8]

Trump throwing Rudy under the bus “I didn’t direct him” :lmao

[Reck]

the WaPo spin :lol

Says the guy who just posted a word salad from a site named 21stcenturywire. :lol

[koriwhat]

dipshit

the irony is out of this world when a fucking retarded asian starts calling others dipshits. dude, you can't even live up to your ethnicity's stereotype of being smart but you have the audacity to hurl insults.

[koriwhat]

You should go back to Louise Mensch for da tweets bro..she been having some good ones lately imho

that psycho is still not locked up in a padded room?

[djohn2oo8]

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[Chris]

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[djohn2oo8]

the irony is out of this world when a fucking retarded asian starts calling others dipshits. dude, you can't even live up to your ethnicity's stereotype of being smart but you have the audacity to hurl insults.
You let another grown man draw on your legs.

[djohn2oo8]

1199468634621566976


:lmao :lmao :lmao

[koriwhat]

You let another grown man draw on your legs.

your jabs are as limp as your 2 inch asian dick and your takes are cringe worthy just like your little asian ass behind the wheel of a car.

[djohn2oo8]

Imagine being a male secretary

[boutons_deux]

1199468634621566976

So Julie Annie might have to cash in his "insurance" policy

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1199469314765668352?s=19

[djohn2oo8]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1199469314765668352?s=19
Well he can sue then it leads to discovery. Nunes doesn’t want that. He hasn’t sued yet lol

[Chris]

npcjohn just copy pasta'd from the comments :lol

[ChumpDumper]

npcjohn just copy pasta'd from the comments :lol

NPChris only retweets.

[koriwhat]

Imagine being a male secretary

imagine another lame jab... oh wait! the lies you fucking weak trolls have to tell yourselves in order to feel justified with being the pussies that yall are.

now, imagine being a stain on your ethnicity like you djohn truly are.

[Reck]

NPChris only retweets.

And still manages to get himself banned from fucking twitter. :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

1199475455436480512

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

1199492477079695361

[djohn2oo8]

Chris, you got banned from twitter?

[spurraider21]

Chris, you got banned from twitter?
some time ago his account was suspended for bot-like behavior :lol

[djohn2oo8]

1199503044393816064

[djohn2oo8]

some time ago his account was suspended for bot-like behavior :lol
:lol

[DMX7]

1199480052880171008

It seemed like he panicked with that phone call. Who just says “no quid pro quo” out of the blue unless they’re terrified they just got caught trying to engage in one? That’s not really a normal thing to say. :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1199502515861118976?s=19


:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Reck]

Poor dumb Chris scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

[TeyshaBlue]

:lol

I can walk on the irony.

[DMX7]

Poor dumb Chris scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

It’s what you do when you’re out of defenses for Trump.

[spurraider21]

It seemed like he panicked with that phone call. Who just says “no quid pro quo” out of the blue unless they’re terrified they just got caught trying to engage in one? That’s not really a normal thing to say. :lol
Are you kidding? I always say “i want no quid pro quo” randomly during every phone call

[DMX7]

Are you kidding? I always say “i want no quid pro quo” randomly during every phone call

:rollin I just want Z to “do the right thing”.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/DearAuntCrabby/status/1199658927337693184?s=19

It's "time" to impeach the stable genius :lol

[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/DearAuntCrabby/status/1199658927337693184?s=19

It's "time" to impeach the stable genius :lol

It reads like a piece from The Onion except sadly it’s real.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Andrea-Arroyo_Impeach-Wave_11-2019-img.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

1199745081072328704
good lawd Rudy

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

1199750992675377153

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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:lol

[djohn2oo8]

1199764110755405826

[LkrFan]

hPDf_jI9rsY

:lol

[Spurs Homer]

:lol:lol:lol

rudee co-llude- ee

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1199777514576580608?s=19
https://media.tenor.com/images/bae9f9ee3bf793a0bb667d8e4ccb9883/tenor.gif

[LkrFan]

:lol:lol:lol

rudee co-llude- ee

:lmao

[Chucho]

:lol:lol:lol

rudee co-llude- ee

dets funny.

[LkrFan]

I guess the crowd wasn't properly screened
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1199805120420163590?s=19

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

1199807005055225858

[Spurs Homer]

one co-lludee- motherfucker!

russia, ukraine, anybody else?


:lol:lol

[koriwhat]

one co-lludee- motherfucker!

russia, ukraine, anybody else?


:lol:lol

and then there's one re-tard-ee motherfucker dubbed "Spurs Homer"

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/1199817722554654720?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/1199818869579362304?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/1199820091069566976?s=19

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/1199818869579362304?s=19

he didn't need dirt... biden's QPQ is out there for the world to see on an archived video! biden covering up for his actual crackhead son hunter is quite the conundrum for the dems.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1199823401663258624?s=19

Rudy :tu

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1199826953227907073?s=19

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1199826953227907073?s=19


Sondland bad now?

[Spurs Homer]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/27/politics/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-ukraine/index.html


lol

I guess the lying piece of shit forgot to - "read the transcript?"

[koriwhat]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/27/politics/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-ukraine/index.html


lol

I guess the lying piece of shit forgot to - "read the transcript?"

the article says giuliani was gonna go there to "seek out" but trump offered up his services only and was not going to send giuliani there as a rogue detective of sorts. you can keep up this charade like you know a thing or two but you don't. :tu

and it's no wonder you're a loon... just check your source! :lmao

[Spurminator]

Sondland bad now?

This is how you know Sondland has Trump cultists freaked out

[koriwhat]

This is how you know Sondland has Trump cultists freaked out

no one is freaked out by a dude who heard it from another dude who heard it from someone else... can you hear that? those impeachment crickets are fucking loud!

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1199851095754969088?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1199851095754969088?s=19

:lol Rudy is fucked

[Reck]

:lol Sondland is a sexual abuser now and trumpies have a problem with that somehow now.

:lol These dumbass republicans cant even set someone up right.

[LkrFan]

he didn't need dirt... biden's QPQ is out there for the world to see on an archived video! biden covering up for his actual crackhead son hunter is quite the conundrum for the dems.

Oh the ironing :lmao

[spurraider21]

moore and kavanaugh face inconveniently timed sexual allegations? LYING WHORES

sondland faces inconveniently timed sexual allegations? TRUMP

[Chris]

:lol Rudy is fucked

:lol per NYT/WaPo

[ChumpDumper]

:lol per NYT/WaPoWhat are your trusted news sources?

[Chris]

What are your trusted news sources?

Sara Carter/John Solomon/Ryan Fournier/Brian Cates off the top of my head.

What are your trusted news sources Chump?

[Chris]

uh oh


https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1199878021232115713?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

Sara Carter/John Solomon/Ryan Fournier/Brian Cates off the top of my head.None of those are news sources.

Those are commentators with twitter accounts.

[pgardn]

Sara Carter/John Solomon/Ryan Fournier/Brian Cates off the top of my head.

What are your trusted news sources Chump?

Who edits them for accuracy?

[ChumpDumper]

Who edits them for accuracy?S:loll:lolm:loln's own website shoved him into the opinion section because his "news" was so terrible.

[pgardn]

:lol per NYT/WaPo

Give me news to read that has more reporters in more places around the world.

[Chris]

Give me news to read that has more reporters in more places around the world.

Ever heard of quality over quantity?

[Chris]

None of those are news sources.

Those are commentators with twitter accounts.

What are your trusted news sources Chump?

[ChumpDumper]

What are your trusted news sources Chump?WaPo, NYT, WSJ, NPR, BBC.

Not individual twitter commentators.

[koriwhat]

Oh the ironing :lmao

you keep proving me right when i claimed you weren't that smart like you think you are but instead a sheep like the rest. you do know what irony means, right?

[koriwhat]

Give me news to read that has more reporters in more places around the world.

are they truly reporters? come on now... activists yes but reporters? :lmao

[DarrinS]

Chump is down with legacy media that misled America on Russiagate for three years

[koriwhat]

Oh the ironing :lmao

as well you do know hunter has a history with drugs, right? first he's an alcoholic that's been in an out of rehab, then he binges crack, gets kicked out of the navy for cocaine, and now has strippers claiming he smoked crack in the strip club where he gets a dildo in his ass at his request. :lmao

[pgardn]

are they truly reporters? come on now... activists yes but reporters? :lmao

Yeah those guys who outed the Clinton Foundation antics... laughable, right?
Far Righty...

[koriwhat]

Chump is down with legacy media that misled America on Russiagate for three years

and got us into plenty of unnecessary wars with proven lies. don't forget that! :tu

[spurraider21]

Chump is down with legacy media that misled America on Russiagate for three years
they were reporting on the fact that an investigation was ongoing. they were reporting on the work mueller was doing which culminated in a hundreds of pages long report.

[koriwhat]

Yeah those guys who outed the Clinton Foundation antics... laughable, right?
Far Righty...

now did they really? it wasn't until that cunt hillary lost for a second time that the well dried up on their QPQ/P2P foundation scheme while plenty of outlets went all in for hillary.

you've been duped whinehole. sorry but it's the truth!

[pgardn]

Chump is down with legacy media that misled America on Russiagate for three years

What did they say that you did not like?

[DarrinS]

What did they say that you did not like?

Seriously?

[koriwhat]

they were reporting on the fact that an investigation was ongoing. they were reporting on the work mueller was doing which culminated in a hundreds of pages long report.

bullfuckingshit! they had a role in all this and were playing to the dems. don't act like they're not partisan in their pol ideology.

[DarrinS]

they were reporting on the fact that an investigation was ongoing. they were reporting on the work mueller was doing which culminated in a hundreds of pages long report.

This is a very generous description. I think the big media outlets took a huge hit to their credibility during this period. Time will tell.

[spurraider21]

This is a very generous description. I think the big media outlets took a huge hit to their credibility during this period. Time will tell.
pundits like maddow certainly did.

the investigation of a sitting president and has campaign is pretty big news tbh... would be journalistic malpractice to not follow that closely and report on it regularly

[Chris]

WaPo, NYT, WSJ, NPR, BBC.

Not individual twitter commentators.

First 4 are DNC mockingbirds, BBC is European CNN.

All my sourcea are journalists who write for their respective papers and also use twitter which triggers you for some reason.

[pgardn]

now did they really? it wasn't until that cunt hillary lost for a second time that the well dried up on their QPQ/P2P foundation scheme while plenty of outlets went all in for hillary.

you've been duped whinehole. sorry but it's the truth!

Your chronology sucks.
And, you are wrong.
Both wrote articles on how the Clinton’s had been told by advisors they had too many “cronies” on the payroll.
BEFORE THE ELECTION. While Hillary was still Secretary Of State.

So do you want to take your fact machine back? You just lied. Or was it an honest mistake?

[koriwhat]

Your chronology sucks.
And, you are wrong.
Both wrote articles on how the Clinton’s had been told by advisors they had too many “cronies” on the payroll.
BEFORE THE ELECTION. While Hillary was still Secretary Of State.

So do you want to take your fact machine back? You just lied. Or was it an honest mistake?

you think i care about a timeline? the fact of the matter is their foundation took a huge hit once hillary was dethroned! whether or not some watchdog claimed this or that prior means nada. we saw the same with her illegal server but did they press the issue and throw her ass in jail?

fuck that stupid cunt hillary and anyone that stands behind that dumb bitch.

[pgardn]

Seriously?

Absolutely.

Not the commentary or analysis.
Actual reporting.
Give it to me, just like kori did.

Both have made errors, both lean left imo, and both have retracted articles and said they were wrong about a number of things. But if you want good stuff by people who are there and connected to foreign government avenues as well as ours, you can’t beat them. I would add the WSJ as well.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump is down with legacy media that misled America on Russiagate for three yearsWhat are your trusted news sources, Darrin?

[ChumpDumper]

First 4 are DNC mockingbirds, BBC is European CNN.

All my sourcea are journalists who write for their respective papers and also use twitter which triggers you for some reason.They're commentators, Qhris.

I like some commentators too but I don't pretend they are news sources.

[pgardn]

you think i care about a timeline? the fact of the matter is their foundation took a huge hit once hillary was dethroned! whether or not some watchdog claimed this or that prior means nada. we saw the same with her illegal server but did they press the issue and throw her ass in jail?

fuck that stupid cunt hillary and anyone that stands behind that dumb bitch.

You just gave me a timeline that indicated AFTER the election the 2nd time you lying sack of shit.

Their reporting was part of the reason she lost to Trump. The Bernie people brought this up as well.
fckn disingenuous liar.
You should know better by now. You have done this before and got spanked.

[DarrinS]

What are your trusted news sources, Darrin?

I go to sites that aggregate multiple sources from differing narratives.

News shouldn't have narratives, but it does.

[koriwhat]

You just gave me a timeline that indicated AFTER the election the 2nd time you lying sack of shit.

Their reporting was part of the reason she lost to Trump. The Bernie people brought this up as well.
fckn disingenuous liar.
You should know better by now. You have done this before and got spanked.

i guess you just aren't getting it... my timeline is specific; she lost the cash cow for her bullshit foundation the moment she lost the election/power.

she didn't lose to trump due to her bullshit server nor her foundation... she lost because she lost! she rigged it all and still lost! she rigged it all with the help of those same bullshit activist "reporters" you claim hurt her!

you're deluded.

[ChumpDumper]

I go to sites that aggregate multiple sources from differing narratives.

News shouldn't have narratives, but it does.What sources?

[pgardn]

I go to sites that aggregate multiple sources from differing narratives.

News shouldn't have narratives, but it does.

And it’s obvious which narratives you believe.

[DarrinS]

What sources?


All those you listed and many more.

[pgardn]

i guess you just aren't getting it... my timeline is specific; she lost the cash cow for her bullshit foundation the moment she lost the election/power.

she didn't lose to trump due to her bullshit server nor her foundation... she lost because she lost! she rigged it all and still lost! she rigged it all with the help of those same bullshit activist "reporters" you claim hurt her!

you're deluded.

That is patently NOT THE SUBJECT.

You griped about Wapo and NY Times.
I brought up their News on the Clinton foundation well before the election.
Then you randomly state the cash dried up after the election.

This has NOTHING to do with these papers being critical of the foundation.
NOTHING. And, now that you bring up her cavalier use of government work at home, THEY both were on this as well. You have no idea what you are writing about.

This is a prime example of how you fit The Far Right like a glove perfectly.
Dont lie again or you will be batted about again.

[ChumpDumper]

All those you listed and many more.So you trust the same sources I do.

What are the others?

[koriwhat]

That is patently NOT THE SUBJECT.

You griped about Wapo and NY Times.
I brought up their News on the Clinton foundation well before the election.
Then you randomly state the cash dried up after the election.

This has NOTHING to do with these papers being critical of the foundation.
NOTHING. And, now that you bring up her cavalier use of government work at home, THEY both were on this as well. You have no idea what you are writing about.

This is a prime example of how you fit The Far Right like a glove perfectly.
Dont lie again or you will be batted about again.

i didn't gripe whatsoever about the WaPo nor the NYT... you want to point fingers and claim liar well point that fucker right back at yourself.

as for those publications doing hillary any harm, they didn't.

[DarrinS]

So you trust the same sources I do.


I don't blindly trust any source.

[Chris]

They're commentators, Qhris.

I like some commentators too but I don't pretend they are news sources.


John Solomon is an award winning investigative journalist who has worked for AP,The Hill, and your beloved WaPo :lmao


Sara A. Carter is a national and international award winning investigative reporter whose stories have ranged from national security, terrorism, immigration and front line coverage of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.


Get pooped on :lol

I can also recommend Ryan Saavedra from The Daily Wire :tu

[koriwhat]

John Solomon is an award winning investigative journalist who has worked for AP,The Hill, and your beloved WaPo :lmao


Sara A. Carter is a national and international award winning investigative reporter whose stories have ranged from national security, terrorism, immigration and front line coverage of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.


Get pooped on :lol

I can also recommend Ryan Saavedra from The Daily Wire :tu

you're talking to the retards... you know, the knowitalls who know nothing but think they do as they claim we all know nothing. fuck them all tbh!

[ChumpDumper]

I don't blindly trust any source.Jesus Christ, Darrin. Why are you so afraid to name your sources?

Which sources do you find the most reliable?


Name five.

[ChumpDumper]

John Solomon is an award winning investigative journalist who has worked for AP,The Hill, and your beloved WaPo :lmaoIn what section of the Hill can I find his Ukraine articles?

Please answer this question honestly, Qhris.



Sara A. Carter is a national and international award winning investigative reporter whose stories have ranged from national security, terrorism, immigration and front line coverage of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.Now she's commentating.



I can also recommend Ryan Saavedra from The Daily Wire :tu:lmao

[DarrinS]

Jesus Christ, Darrin.

Which sources do you find the most reliable?


Name five.


Nope.

I read stuff from both sides.

[ChumpDumper]

Nope.

I read stuff from both sides.And which sources do you find reliable from "your" side?

[koriwhat]

Nope.

I read stuff from both sides.

this is always the shitlib's dumb fucking tactic... as if you have to justify anything to faggot ass CumDumpster or anyone else here on ST.

[ChumpDumper]

this is always the shitlib's dumb fucking tactic... as if you have to justify anything to faggot ass CumDumpster or anyone else here on ST.:lol you shit yourself when you were asked that question.

You all shit yourselves.

It's hilarious.

Now whine about my replying to you.

[DarrinS]

And which sources do you find reliable?


Media companies employ many journalists, some great, some not. Its good to read from a variety of sources.

You can stop asking me for a ranking now.

[ChumpDumper]

Media companies employ many journalists, some great, some not. Its good to read from a variety of sources.

You can stop asking me for a ranking now.Not a ranking. Just three you think are reliable.

You make these judgments all the time.

It's a simple question.

[koriwhat]

suck a dick CumDumpster! i don't read your shit no longer and haven't for months but here you are still vying for attention as always.

[pgardn]

i didn't gripe whatsoever about the WaPo nor the NYT... you want to point fingers and claim liar well point that fucker right back at yourself.

as for those publications doing hillary any harm, they didn't.

The point is those publications will go after any side in power as they should. Any president. This is the same group that kept on fast a furious and help force Eric Holder to give up the goods. Under Obama. How much affect any of this has on actual votes is guessing. Their are people on this board who point out that Russia interference in our elections got Trump the electoral victory. I don’t believe this and I don’t believe those publications helped Hillary or liberals in power at all with the specific articles I brought up that they (our press) stayed determined to get answers on.
I personally do think WaPo and NYTimes lean left but they are STILL among the very best media IN THE WORLD. No doubt in my mind.

If you don’t think so give me your sites. I would also put the WSJ and The Economist in that group and call them more right leaning. But not as good in world affairs, better in business news.

[ChumpDumper]

suck a dick CumDumpster! i don't read your shit no longer and haven't for months but here you are still vying for attention as always.:lol keep posting about me

[DarrinS]

Not a ranking. Just three you think are reliable.

You make these judgments all the time.

It's a simple question.


Just keep asking

[ChumpDumper]

Just keep askingWhy is this so difficult for you?

[DarrinS]

Why is this so difficult for you?


Just keep asking

[ChumpDumper]

I will keep asking because your pissy evasiveness is hilarious.

[Th'Pusher]

Media companies employ many journalists, some great, some not. Its good to read from a variety of sources.

You can stop asking me for a ranking now.

Name some journalists you think are great.

[ChumpDumper]

Name some journalists you think are great.:cryKeep asking.:cry

[Th'Pusher]

Chris Wallace incoming.

[DMX7]

Chris Wallace incoming.

1196148537525977088

[DMX7]

this is always the shitlib's dumb fucking tactic... as if you have to justify anything to faggot ass CumDumpster or anyone else here on ST.

Lol Trump style meltdown

[Th'Pusher]

1196148537525977088

Touché. We’ll see if DarrinS can provide a single journalist he thinks is great!

We’ll see if he goes the Greenwald,
Taibbi route. Sympathetic to his Russia conspiracy angle but also LEFTISTS. What will DarrinS do?

[pgardn]

Chris Wallace incoming.

Dude can think on his feet and will go off on a line of questions that make news on his show. “Are you saying_________because this implies__________.” He has opened up people who are changing their reasoning and or facts very quickly and live. Eventually, he will give up when people don’t answer his questions but not after a “well I could not get an answer for ___________ so let’s try __________.”

Its obvious Trump wants nothing to do with a guy armored and ready to fire the big guns if people play with previous statements and try to change them. Wallace jumps them. I don’t know how he keeps his job. He is much more ready for a Lehrer type role on PBS. He would be even more effective with a longer show with fewer subjects. But the yelling and screaming channels have him contracted up I guess.

[DMX7]

Dude can think on his feet and will go off on a line of questions that make news on his show. “Are you saying_________because this implies__________.” He has opened up people who are changing their reasoning and or facts very quickly and live. Eventually, he will give up when people don’t answer his questions but not after a “well I could not get an answer for ___________ so let’s try __________.”

Its obvious Trump wants nothing to do with a guy armored and ready to fire the big guns if people play with previous statements and try to change them. Wallace jumps them. I don’t know how he keeps his job. He is much more ready for a Lehrer type role on PBS. He would be even more effective with a longer show with fewer subjects. But the yelling and screaming channels have him contracted up I guess.

I agree. Wallace is super sharp.

[Th'Pusher]

I agree. Wallace is super sharp.

Me too. I think Chris Wallace is a good journalist.

[ChumpDumper]

Me too. I think Chris Wallace is a good journalist.I too think he's a good journalist. Very strong interviewer.

That was painless.

See? We didn't die.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1199826953227907073?s=19

"I presumed they were interested."

[Th'Pusher]

"I presumed they were interested."

Nathan89, who are some journalists you respect and like to read/watch?

[thispego]

"I presumed they were interested."

:lol

[monosylab1k]

Haha I’m not a Trump guy per se, I just know bullshit when I see it and this is just a personal vendetta against trump being carried out by the Dems. Clear as day.

:lmao “I swear I don’t even like Trump! I just hate the Dems and all libtards!” is of course the true sign of a diehard Trump supporter.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s big, ‘exonerating’ piece of Ukraine evidence takes a hit

President Trump’s Sept. 9 call with Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland is now the core of his Ukraine defense.

“I would say that means it’s all over (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/20/trumps-sweeping-rebuttal-sondlands-testimony-quoting-his-own-denials-quid-pro-quo/?tid=lk_inline_manual_2).” :lol

the call might not have actually taken place

possibility that Trump and Sondland did not actually speak on Sept. 9.

And the evidence is compelling:



Trump has said he doesn’t remember the call. :lol
Text messages (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/04/read-text-message-excerpts-between-us-diplomats-giuliani-ukrainian-aide/?arc404=true) that Sondland said surrounded the call (between him and top Ukraine diplomat William B. Taylor Jr.) indicate the call would have taken place between 12:31 a.m. Eastern time and 5:19 a.m. Eastern time on Sept. 9.
A colleague of Sondland’s in Brussels said Sondland was comfortable calling Trump only after 7:30 a.m.
The White House has found no record of a Sept. 9 call between Trump and Sondland.
Sondland isn’t understood to have Trump’s personal cellphone number, meaning there should be a record of the call.
Sondland himself testified he was “pretty sure” the call was on Sept. 9, but that he wasn’t completely sure because the White House didn’t provide him records. He also said he couldn’t “specifically recall if I had one or two phone calls” with Trump between Sept. 6 and Sept. 9.
Sondland’s testimony has been dodgy — to say the least (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/19/gordon-sondlands-testimony-contradictions-discrepancies/) — before.


Republicans have already stretched Sondland’s version of a Sept. 9 call (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/20/trumps-sweeping-rebuttal-sondlands-testimony-quoting-his-own-denials-quid-pro-quo/?tid=lk_inline_manual_28),

ignoring Trump’s motivation to deny a quid pro quo on it

and the fact that, even on the same call, he made clear he wanted more than “nothing.”

But the Morrison and Taylor recollections of the Sept. 7 call indicate

Trump was demanding far more than just Zelensky doing “the right thing”;

he was demanding Ukraine do his specific investigations.

And if that’s really the call Sondland remembered, it’s even less exonerating than Republicans have argued it was.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/28/trumps-big-exonerating-piece-ukraine-evidence-takes-hit/?utm_campaign=post_most&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=Newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/28/trumps-big-exonerating-piece-ukraine-evidence-takes-hit/?utm_campaign=post_most&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=Newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1)

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao “I swear I don’t even like Trump! I just hate the Dems and all libtards!” is of course the true sign of a diehard Trump supporter.Seems like above everything else they love Dennison's victimhood and grievance.

[Chris]

mono and chump trollin hard on Thanksgiving

[ChumpDumper]

mono and chump trollin hard on ThanksgivingI'm very serious about that tbh.

The chance to be at once an asshole and a victim vicariously seems to be the main selling point for Dennison supporters.

I'll let you prove it with your next few posts.

[MultiTroll]

Even the lib poll showing Millennials more against impeachment and this phony hearing.

Bring on the Senate trial.

Don simply picking up more votes since this whole charade started.

[monosylab1k]

Even the lib poll showing Millennials more against impeachment and this phony hearing.

Bring on the Senate trial.

Don simply picking up more votes since this whole charade started.

Ah yes, another “but I don’t even like Trump!” guy who supports and defends everything Trump does :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Even the lib poll showing Millennials more against impeachment and this phony hearing.

Bring on the Senate trial.

Don simply picking up more votes since this whole charade started.Let's see that poll.

[boutons_deux]

Ex-prosecutor says Giuliani could go down for illegal foreign lobbying — even if he wasn’t paid

former federal prosecutor Elie Honig broke down the legal problems facing President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani,

“The problems for Rudy Giuliani just keep stacking up. Let’s rewind.

Parnas is indicted.

Rudy Giuliani himself is being investigated by the Southern District, which he used to lead.

We know that that whopper subpoena got served the other day

relating to Rudy’s business, listing all the crimes.”

“The potential crime I see here is … [the] Foreign Agents Registration Act.

But you don’t need to have a payment.

You can still be lobbying for free, for other consideration,

for in exchange of favors as could have happened here as well.

So it’s just one more iron in the fire for Rudy.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/ex-prosecutor-says-giuliani-could-go-down-for-illegal-foreign-lobbying-even-if-he-wasnt-paid/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/ex-prosecutor-says-giuliani-could-go-down-for-illegal-foreign-lobbying-even-if-he-wasnt-paid/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

[Nathan89]

Even the lib poll showing Millennials more against impeachment and this phony hearing.

Bring on the Senate trial.

Don simply picking up more votes since this whole charade started.

It's amazing what happens when the dems and the propagandists don't control 100% of the narrative.

[ChumpDumper]

It's amazing what happens when the dems and the propagandists don't control 100% of the narrative.You guys ever find that poll you're talking about?

[koriwhat]

It's amazing what happens when the dems and the propagandists don't control 100% of the narrative.

:tu

[Nathan89]

You guys ever find that poll you're talking about?

I haven't seen the poll he's referring to but I've seen others regarding other groups. Problem is the dems and their media partners were spewing their narrative unchallenged for a long time so they still have many duped. Just like they still have people duped from the russia propaganda.

[ChumpDumper]

So anecdotes.

Problem is you guys never actually post anything outside your fantasies.

[thispego]

:lmao “I swear I don’t even like Trump! I just hate the Dems and all libtards!” is of course the true sign of a diehard Trump supporter.

Mono what did Trump do that was illegal snd what’s the evidence?

[monosylab1k]

Mono what did Trump do that was illegal snd what’s the evidence?

Spoken like a true Trumptard :lmao

[thispego]

So anecdotes.

Problem is you guys never actually post anything outside your fantasies.


Any different from schiff’s collection of testimonies? :lol

[thispego]

Spoken like a true Trumptard :lmao


Good answer. Thorough explanation of your position, tbh :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Any different from schiff’s collection of testimonies? :lolYou got that poll?

Better yet got that narrative for Dennison's actions RE: Ukraine that makes any sense?

[monosylab1k]

Good answer. Thorough explanation of your position, tbh :lol

At least you aren’t denying your Trumptard status anymore :lmao

[thispego]

You got that poll?

Better yet got that narrative for Dennison's actions RE: Ukraine that makes any sense?

What poll? Rasmussen?

[monosylab1k]

Rasmussen?

The only poll that tells THE TRUTH, amirite?

[Winehole23]

I thought one of the lessons of 2016 is that the hype about polling is shite.

the polls were mostly within the margin of error, but the presumption of inevitability beforehand was totally unearned and was, as Trump would soon prove, wrong.

never underestimate the voters.

[thispego]

I thought one of the lessons of 2016 is that the hype about polling is shite.

the polls were mostly within the margin of error, but the presumption of inevitability beforehand was totally unearned and was, as Trump would soon prove, wrong.

never underestimate the voters.

Polls are tools used to shape opinion. That’s all

[MultiTroll]

CNN Poll: No change in views on impeachment after public hearings

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/politics/cnn-poll-impeachment-views/index.html

This isn't the msn poll I had in mind.

[Winehole23]

Polls are tools used to shape opinion. That’s allEverybody's got their pet poll to do it.

How many oversample landlines?

Do trolls paid and common berserkers game online polls?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1200217815485157376?s=19

[Winehole23]

Why is Trump working overtime to discredit Joe Biden?

Does he like the field better?

[LkrFan]

John Solomon is an award winning investigative journalist who has worked for AP,The Hill, and your beloved WaPo :lmao


Sara A. Carter is a national and international award winning investigative reporter whose stories have ranged from national security, terrorism, immigration and front line coverage of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.


Get pooped on :lol

I can also recommend Ryan Saavedra from The Daily Wire :tu

https://twitter.com/greenhousenyt/status/1200421341322760201?s=19

I didn't know you are from New York :rollin :lmao :rollin

[boutons_deux]

never underestimate the voters.

... gullibility, ignorance, stupidity, disengagement, gerrymandering, voter suppression, counting fraud.

[LkrFan]

Truth bombs
https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1200427908705193985?s=19
https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1200430264318648322?s=19

They misspelled beotch. Graham is Trump's beotch :lol

[boutons_deux]

Why is Trump working overtime to discredit Joe Biden?

Does he like the field better?

I guess he thinks Biden as front runner is toughest to beat, while all the others Trash "knows" he can beat

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1200438847710072836?s=19

[thispego]

https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1200438847710072836?s=19

Trying so so hard, but still requires so many leap of faith interpretations of words uttered and acts committed to come anywhere even close to resembling anything illegal :lol

[boutons_deux]

resembling anything illegal :lol

impeachment isn't a legal process, but a political process

[boutons_deux]

resembling anything illegal :lol

impeachment isn't a legal process, but a political process

And admitted to extorting/bribing Z, and was confirmed by his own transcript and other involved in or knowing of the scam

[thispego]

impeachment isn't a legal process, but a political process

Clearly. At least you can now admit no illegal acts were committed. You’re making progress, boutons

[thispego]

impeachment isn't a legal process, but a political process

And admitted to extorting/bribing Z, and was confirmed by his own transcript and other involved in or knowing of the scam

:smh

[boutons_deux]

:smh

:smack your pussy with hammer

[thispego]

:smack your pussy with hammer

Lmfao wtf :lol

[LkrFan]

Clearly. At least you can now admit no illegal acts were committed. You’re making progress, boutons

Don't be obtuse. What he's saying is, it's not a legal proceeding. As in a courtroom with a judge, jury, bailiffs, etc.

He is NOT saying it is not legal as in it is illegal process you derp! :lmao


It IS legal AF. :tu

[thispego]

Don't be obtuse. What he's saying is, it's not a legal proceeding. As in a courtroom with a judge, jury, bailiffs, etc.

He is NOT saying it is not legal as in it is illegal process you derp! :lmao


It IS legal AF. :tu

Replace illegal with impeachable in every statement I’ve made and it still holds true

[Spurs Homer]

Replace illegal with impeachable in every statement I’ve made and it still holds true


lol still (weak) trolling

[thispego]

lol still (weak) trolling

Not trolling at all

[monosylab1k]

rofl I can picture thispego at the condo in Breck groveling “but DADDEH-IN-LAW, I need an extra 20 bucks of allowance to buy a MAGA hat to own the libtards in this town!”

[thispego]

rofl I can picture thispego at the condo in Breck groveling “but DADDEH-IN-LAW, I need an extra 20 bucks of allowance to buy a MAGA hat to own the libtards in this town!”

Roflrofl that’s so 2011

[LkrFan]

lol still (weak) trolling

I know, right? :lol

[LkrFan]

rofl I can picture thispego at the condo in Breck groveling “but DADDEH-IN-LAW, I need an extra 20 bucks of allowance to buy a MAGA hat to own the libtards in this town!”

:lmao

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/1200485349811728385?s=19

Anybody surprised? :lol

[LkrFan]

How do you say Donald Trump in Russian?
https://twitter.com/MaryPatFlynn1/status/1173543014762975233?s=19

I've read they owned his ass since 1987. I'm starting to believe it. Here's more
https://twitter.com/MaryPatFlynn1/status/1200535988826759168?s=19

#Kompromised
#CanBeBlackmailed
#NationalSecurityRisk
#RussianAsset
#Pootin'sBitch

[boutons_deux]

Trash and Repugs have been (falsely) whining about Dems impeachment processes, that included Repugs AND followed rules written by Repugs.

so Nagel sez "Come on over, fat boy, to claim your rights in the process"

Trash, like a true wannabe Macho Man bully, will fold when confronted with a real challenge.

His supporters are the same wimpy assholes, hiding behind anonymity, keyboards, guns.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/juliehdavis/status/1200549447731683330?s=19

[LkrFan]

Trash and Repugs have been (falsely) whining about Dems impeachment processes

so Nagel sez "Come on over, fat boy, to claim your rights in the process"

Trash, like a true wannabe Macho Man bully, will fold when confronted with a real challenge.

His supporters are the same wimpy assholes, hiding behind anonymity, keyboards, guns.

:rollin :lmao :rollin

[Chris]

Roflrofl that’s so 2011

mono has daddy issues

He routine brings up mine for no reason :lol


also the "ur mom gay" in the sig is telling of mommy issues :lol

[lil'mo]

mono has daddy issues

He routine brings up mine for no reason :lol


also the "ur mom gay" in the sig is telling of mommy issues :lol

Well he’s still a mainstay on spurstalk after all this time which tells me all I need to know :lol

[Chris]

Well he’s still a mainstay on spurstalk after all this time which tells me all I need to know :lol

thoughts and prayers for monosylab1k tbh

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1200816399767265280?s=19


:hungry:

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1200816399767265280?s=19


:hungry:

https://twitter.com/Bill_Maxwell_/status/1200900334614274049?s=19
https://media3.giphy.com/media/IeWYx9jB9yIFA9o5sk/giphy.gif

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1200944191016189953?s=19

Hey Chris you okay with your tax dollars going to his many many 18 holes of R&R?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1200944191016189953?s=19

Hey Chris you okay with your tax dollars going to his many many 18 holes of R&R?

Add it your articles of impeachment and call in witnesses to testify.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TheBradMielke/status/1200840558459138050?s=19

[LkrFan]

Add it your articles of impeachment and call in witnesses to testify.

So your answer is yes. Yes, you don't believe in the Constitution which had provisions in it to prevent public servants (i.e. the President) from using their public office for private gain. We know he only stayed at HIS hotels. That means he STOLE $115 million of OUR tax dollars and put it into his pocket. We also know he made our military stay at his bed bug ridden hotels too.

The only way you wouldn't be mad about this would be if you DIDN'T pay taxes.

[LkrFan]

I knew it
https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1200957348778369024?s=19

SMH

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1200946777714823170?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1201072221931876352?s=19

Now he's robbing da hood. SMH

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1065631033700376576?s=19

[boutons_deux]

Impeachment as spectacle:
Everyone knows Trump is guilty as hell

impeachment hearings have been the perfect sweeps-season

exhibition of American dysfunction, weirdness and stupidity.

More shocking than the extent of Trump’s petty corruption is

the obsequiousness of leading Republicans, all of whom have publicly invested in the personality cult

the GOP have exposed themselves as lacking any of the principles

— “family values”; belief in small, honest government; fiscal
conservatism, patriotic loyalty to the laws and institutions of the United States — they previously boasted about.

House impeachment, and subsequent Senate removal, in any rational Congress would have taken all of four minutes

the entire Trump fiasco will result in a repetition of the Bill Clinton episode — impeachment in the House, acquittal in the Senate.

That is not the only reason that the entire proceeding feels anticlimactic. It is deeply unsatisfying because it is

focused on what is likely the least of Trump’s misdeeds.

operating only within the confines of Trump’s term in office is equally devastating to not only his lack of leadership and character, but also to an impeachment that,

while just and necessary, resembles the prosecution of Al Capone for tax evasion.

Trump’s family separation policy at the border — ripping children out of their parents’ arms, locking them in cages, leaving them vulnerable to abuse — a “crime against humanity.”

The United Nations definition of “genocide,” formed in response to the Nazi holocaust of Jews and other minorities, extends far beyond murder. It also includes “forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”



Genocide is not on the impeachment agenda.

The words that French journalist Claude Julien wrote following Richard Nixon’s resignation still ring true:

“The elimination of Mr. Richard Nixon leaves intact all the mechanisms and all the false values which permitted the Watergate scandal.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/impeachment-as-spectacle-everyone-knows-trump-is-guilty-as-hell/

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s latest defense is that impeachment hearings should not occur while he’s out of town

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trumps-latest-defense-is-that-impeachment-hearings-should-not-occur-while-hes-out-of-town/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3131

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1201136487468871681?s=19