trump impeachment watch thread

[Chris]

hmm, maybe the FBI and DOJ should investigate that and see if they can press any charges

Hillary got the 'HQ special': try to keep up.

[Chris]

Only networks that carried the full, non interrupted speeches were CNN, MSNBC and Fox News.

Actually, Fox News often cut off the dems when they were on in favor of Tucker Carson. Qchris doing Qchris things.

What are you disputing?

What are you rambling about besides name calling?

Step it up, or I'll put you back on the 'not worth a reply' list.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1221989503495221248?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1221991311726841856?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

The Dems case is all about imputing motives. Reading minds. Good luck with that.

There are legitimate concerns about corruption as it relates to Biden and Ukraine. And China, too.

Are you saying Trump was right to do all this?

Make yourself clear, Darrin.

[DarrinS]

Are you saying Trump was right to do all this?

Make yourself clear, Darrin.

Already did, CuckChump. You just didn't like my answer.

[ChumpDumper]

Already did, CuckChump. You just didn't like my answer.Actually you did not.

Are you saying Trump was right to do all this?

Yes or no.

Don't get upset, just answer yes or no.

[DarrinS]

I mean, had he asked Zelensky to "make up dirt" (Schiff's thespian interpretation) on Bernie, that would be weird. But, what was going on between the Biden's and Ukraine completely justifies it.

[ChumpDumper]

I mean, had he asked Zelensky to "make up dirt" (Schiff's thespian interpretation) on Bernie, that would be weird. But, what was going on between the Biden's and Ukraine completely justifies it.:lol then why act like he didn't do it and actively try to cover it up?

Explain your Dear Leader's actions.

[spurraider21]

Hillary got the 'HQ special': try to keep up.
nope. OIG specifically looked into that. sorry

[ChumpDumper]

nope. OIG specifically looked into that. sorry:lol low information Qonspiracy Qhris

[DarrinS]

:lol then why act like he didn't do it and actively try to cover it up?

Explain your Dear Leader's actions.


He immediately released the transcript.

[ducks]

Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Arthur Schwartz ArthurSchwartz
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Not mentioned: Bolton was never seriously considered for any position in the Trump admin that required senate confirmation because the GOP controlled senate would never confirm him.

[ChumpDumper]

He immediately released the transcript.No.

Not a transcript.

Why involve Giuliani and recall Yovanovitch?

Why hide the actual transcript?

[ChumpDumper]

Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Arthur Schwartz ArthurSchwartz
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1h
Not mentioned: Bolton was never seriously considered for any position in the Trump admin that required senate confirmation because the GOP controlled senate would never confirm him.Why not?

[spurraider21]

I mean, had he asked Zelensky to "make up dirt" (Schiff's thespian interpretation) on Bernie, that would be weird. But, what was going on between the Biden's and Ukraine completely justifies it.


again, the biden corruption question is a giant red herring. they could be corrupt as sin. has no bearing on trump's abuse of power.

just a big distraction that useful idiots are willfully re-circulating

[spurraider21]

:lmao thinking a 30 minute conversation would only yield a 5 page transcript :lmao

i know koriwhat has some experience with recording depositions... maybe he has some insight on how long a transcript would be for a discussion of that length?

[ChumpDumper]

again, the biden corruption question is a giant red herring. they could be corrupt as sin. has no bearing on trump's abuse of power.

just a big distraction that useful idiots are willfully re-circulatingIt's the non-defense rubes think is their silver bullet.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao thinking a 30 minute conversation would only yield a 5 page transcript :lmao

i know koriwhat has some experience with recording depositions... maybe he has some insight on how long a transcript would be for a discussion of that length?:rollin "transcript"

[DarrinS]

Democrats and their media allies interfering way more in the 2020 election vs some supposed investigation into Biden that didn't happen.

Good luck with that. Operation Backfire.

[DarrinS]

:rollin "transcript"

Lol, thinking court stenograghers do these transcripts.

[boutons_deux]

:rollin "transcript"

... so toxic AND INCRIMINATING nobody has seen it except the WH lawyers who were horrified and locked in a hyper-secure server

[ChumpDumper]

Lol, thinking court stenograghers do these transcripts.lol, thinking that was a transcript.

Rube.

[ChumpDumper]

Democrats and their media allies interfering way more in the 2020 election vs some supposed investigation into Biden that didn't happen.

Good luck with that. Operation Backfire.:lol no

Darrin seriously believes this shit.

[ducks]

Senator Rand Paul RandPaul
Why didn’t John Bolton testify to the US House? Apparently his book wasn’t quite finished yet for presales!

[ChumpDumper]

Senator Rand Paul RandPaul
Why didn’t John Bolton testify to the US House? Apparently his book wasn’t quite finished yet for presales!:lol not arguing the facts

[Reck]

Senator Rand Paul Rand (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9227)Paul
Why didn’t John Bolton testify to the US House? Apparently his book wasn’t quite finished yet for presales!

Ok and? What will you do when the tapes drop? :lol

[Winehole23]

Democrats and their media allies interfering way more in the 2020 election vs some supposed investigation into Biden that didn't happen.

Good luck with that. Operation Backfire.If our government has information Hunter Biden or his father broke US laws relating to corruption or are unlawfully interfering with the 2020 election, why pressure Ukraine to make an announcement?

Wouldn't the thing to do be the DOJ opening an investigation into the corrupt Bidens? Pressuring a foreign country to prosecute US citizens is weird AF.

Why is AG Barr sitting on his hands? Are the Bidens getting the HQ special from the Trump DOJ?

[ChumpDumper]

If our government has information Hunter Biden or his father broke US laws relating to corruption or are unlawfully interfering with the 2020 election, why pressure Ukraine to make an announcement?

Wouldn't the thing to do be the DOJ opening an investigation into the corrupt Bidens? Pressuring a foreign country to prosecute US citizens is weird AF.

Why is AG Barr sitting on his hands? Are the Bidens getting the HQ special from the Trump DOJ?

:lol nothing these rubes say to defend Dennison makes any sense.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1222010158240452608?s=19


:tu

[Winehole23]

Hey Chris, do you think a corrupt foreign country should prosecute US citizens?

How does it make sense for the US to demand that a corrupt country do so?

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1222010158240452608?s=19


:tu:lmao rubes still falling for the same red herring

[Reck]

Why are republicans so obsessed with Schiff? What’s the deal there?

[ducks]

He lied to congress

[ducks]

Fuck it cut foreign aid to all countries
Why the hell should tax payers money help other countries

[ChumpDumper]

Why are republicans so obsessed with Schiff? What’s the deal there?Felony paraphrasing.

[DarrinS]

Why are republicans so obsessed with Schiff? What’s the deal there?

Seriously?

[TheGreatYacht]

Fuck it cut foreign aid to all countries
Why the hell should tax payers money help other countries

Agree.

[Winehole23]

Seriously?Make your case.

[Winehole23]

LOL Darrin thinks Jared is perfectly suited to handle middle east peace talks. Whatever gave him that idea?
People forget Jared had his security clearance yanked and that his father in law ordered it goven back to him and quashed the investigation into Jared.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jared-kushner-identified-as-senior-white-house-official-whose-security-clearance-was-denied-by-career-officials/2019/04/03/fefa8dbe-5623-11e9-814f-e2f46684196e_story.html

[Winehole23]

Trump's bagman was bankrolled, for some reason, by a Trump friend in the energy business.

Coincidental, I'm sure:

https://www.courthousenews.com/lev-parnas-company-document-touted-partnership-with-oil-billionaire/amp/

[Winehole23]

Joni Ernst says the quiet part loud. Sliming Joe Biden has been the whole point all along.

If it weren't, there would already be a DOJ investigation.

1221948034004799488

[Reck]

Joni Ernst says the quiet part loud. Sliming Joe Biden has been the whole point all along.

If it weren't, there would already be a DOJ investigation.

1221948034004799488

Poor lady must think dems vote according to how they are told to vote like the GOP does their supporters. Now she thinks she can dictate how dem caucus goers should vote. Cute

[Spurs Homer]

Why are republicans so obsessed with Schiff? What’s the deal there?

He doesnt bow down and kneel before their dear leader-

he is like an “alien” to their worship culture

”he tells the truth! How dare he!”

[boutons_deux]

Pressuring a foreign country to prosecute US citizens

... using a so-called in private practice as personal lawyer rather using the DoJ, FBI, Dept of State.

The Repugs KNOW all of this conspiracy which has been blatantly exposed and proven.

up is down, Trash's abuse of power is not abuse of power

Trash is being protected against the large majority of Americans and the Constituion by a minority empowered Repug/SCOTUS gerrymandering and voter suppression and weaponized, archaic Constitution (EC and 2 Senators for land area, rather than by population)

[Winehole23]

GOP Senators request a safe space to review Bolton's book...which will be published in a few weeks.

I'm old enough to remember when the testimony of direct witnesses was all that counted.

1222176642988236806

[boutons_deux]

Republicans claim

Democrats leaked John Bolton’s book that was given to the White House —

then quickly back down :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/republicans-claim-democrats-leaked-john-boltons-book-that-was-given-to-the-white-house-then-quickly-back-down/

but how many of Repug/Trash cult mob "believe" the original slander?

Bolton gave exactly one copy to the WH many weeks ago, Did somebody in the WH leaked it?

Trash and his mafiya, which now includes the entire Repug party, are a black hole of wasted time, money, energy that would be better spent actually governing, which of course the Repugs have long ago renounced.

[boutons_deux]

Days after 'head on a pike' outrage, Republican warns of 'repercussions' for defying Trump

Rep. Mark Meadows :lol told Norah O’Donnell that

“I don't want to speak for my Senate colleagues. But

there are always political repercussions for every vote you take.”

Yeah, like the kind of political repercussions that Team Trump specializes in dealing out.

The kind you might metaphorically call “head on a pike.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/27/1914500/-Days-after-head-on-a-pike-outrage-Republican-warns-of-repercussions-for-defying-Trump?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/27/1914500/-Days-after-head-on-a-pike-outrage-Republican-warns-of-repercussions-for-defying-Trump?detail=emaildkre)

Anybody who votes their conscience when it's against the party line will be primaried by someone financed by the oligarchy.

Congressional seats are so lucrative, the whores will never vote their consciences and risk losing their seat.

[boutons_deux]

Trump waived executive privilege when he called Bolton a liar

If the Senate decides to summon the former national security adviser,

the president won’t have much recourse left.


https://images.dailykos.com/images/760834/story_image/trumpshootinghimselfinthefoot.jpg?1580173683



https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/01/27/trump-waived-executive-privilege-when-he-called-bolton-liar/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/01/27/trump-waived-executive-privilege-when-he-called-bolton-liar/)

[boutons_deux]

Rick Santorum: :lol

‘I have no problem’ with John Bolton testifying after ‘this impeachment thing’ is over :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rick-santorum-i-have-no-problem-with-john-bolton-testifying-after-this-impeachment-thing-is-over/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Spurs Homer]

Trump waived executive privilege when he called Bolton a liar

If the Senate decides to summon the former national security adviser,

the president won’t have much recourse left.


https://images.dailykos.com/images/760834/story_image/trumpshootinghimselfinthefoot.jpg?1580173683



https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/01/27/trump-waived-executive-privilege-when-he-called-bolton-liar/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/01/27/trump-waived-executive-privilege-when-he-called-bolton-liar/)





sure he does-

trump could testify under oath and show the country Bolton is a liar!


unless....

[Spurminator]

He immediately released the transcript.

Why do you idiots keep saying this? Are you lying or are you just that clueless?

By my count, you've parroted the "transcript" lie and the "Schiff asked for Trump nudes" lie in the past day. Are you getting your news from Devin Nunes' podcast?

Again, reflect on yourself and your sources.

[Winehole23]

The book is on sale on Amazon today.

[Winehole23]

Why do you idiots keep saying this? Are you lying or are you just that clueless?

By my count, you've parroted the "transcript" lie and the "Schiff asked for Trump nudes" lie in the past day. Are you getting your news from Devin Nunes' podcast?

Again, reflect on yourself and your sources.DarrinS is smart enough to know he's spreading a lie.

Paraphrase =/= transcript

[boutons_deux]

Trash's transcript, as indicting as it is, is about as truthful as Barr's 4-pager of Mueller

That's why the full transcript is deeply secreted away.

[Reck]

Why do you idiots keep saying this? Are you lying or are you just that clueless?

By my count, you've parroted the "transcript" lie and the "Schiff asked for Trump nudes" lie in the past day. Are you getting your news from Devin Nunes' podcast?

Again, reflect on yourself and your sources.

The most ironic and funny thing is that Darrin himself hasn't read the memo that he so badly wants people to believe it's a transcript. Not much going on in that brain.

Go ahead, ask him if he read the 5 page memo.

[boutons_deux]

Rick Santorum gives away the GOP’s game on impeachment:

‘Even if he did it, Republicans don’t care!’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rick-santorum-gives-away-the-gops-game-on-impeachment-even-if-he-did-it-republicans-dont-care/

[Reck]

Rick Santorum gives away the GOP’s game on impeachment:

‘Even if he did it, Republicans don’t care!’


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rick-santorum-gives-away-the-gops-game-on-impeachment-even-if-he-did-it-republicans-dont-care/

Well Collins and Gardner should give a shit. Their skin is on the line. Hillary won their states fairly comfortably.

[baseline bum]

Rick Santorum gives away the GOP’s game on impeachment:

‘Even if he did it, Republicans don’t care!’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rick-santorum-gives-away-the-gops-game-on-impeachment-even-if-he-did-it-republicans-dont-care/

That has always been the GOP's game with our Dear Leader: corruption in plain sight.

[CosmicCowboy]

A good article on Bolton. There really aren't any "good guys" in this whole mess.

https://news.yahoo.com/bolton-who-may-hold-impeachment-bombshell-has-a-history-of-settling-scores-170021430.html

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s threats of violence should warn us what’s coming after impeachment

After Trump’s acquittal, his political chorus will continue to sing his praises.

Powered by a mix of

self-righteousness,

white male rage, and

right-wing victimhood,

entitlement and

grievance,

Trump will likely seek revenge,

launching a fully unrestrained attack

on the Constitution,

the rule of law,

American democracy,

the Democrats,

liberals,

progressives and

any person or group who dares to try to hold him accountable.

The American people and the Democratic Party have one option left to stop Donald Trump.

On Election Day in November they must vote him out of power.

To this point, America does not seem up to the task.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-threats-of-violence-should-warn-us-whats-coming-after-impeachment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-threats-of-violence-should-warn-us-whats-coming-after-impeachment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s lawyers are betting on their audience having no idea how the law works :lol a very safe bet :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Alan-Dershowitz-3.png

Trump’s lawyers are staking out bold ground by claiming that abuse of power —

which is, to many, the quintessential impeachable offense —

is not actually grounds for removing a president at all.

Dershowitz made the even greater leap that

there is something inherently illegitimate about trying to discern

whether the president had a corrupt motive in his act.

“How are we supposed to get the proof of what’s inside the president’s head?”

such arguments will only appeal to people who have no familiarity with criminal law.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren ... said his arguments were “nonsensical.”

“His characterization of the law simply is unsupported,” she told reporters after Dershowitz’s presentation in the Senate trial.

“He is a criminal law professor who stood in the well of the Senate and

talked about how law never inquires into intent and

that we should not be using the president’s intent as part of understanding impeachment.”

She continued:

“Criminal law is all about intent.

Mens rea is the heart of criminal law.

That’s the very basis of it.

So it makes his whole presentation just nonsensical.

I truly could not follow it.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-threats-of-violence-should-warn-us-whats-coming-after-impeachment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-threats-of-violence-should-warn-us-whats-coming-after-impeachment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

So

1. Abuse of power is not impeachable

and

2. We cannot know what Trash's "intent" was in abusing power and extorting Z?

:lol

so Trash abused his power and could have been totally innocent in intent? :lol


btw, 21 State AG's, excellent dicksucking, sycophantic, authoritarian herrenvolk, have joined Trash's defense team.

[boutons_deux]

Sekulow cons Senate:

John Bolton’s ‘unsourced’ firsthand account of Ukraine scandal is ‘inadmissible’

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/sekulow-cons-senate-john-boltons-unsourced-firsthand-account-of-ukraine-scandal-is-inadmissible/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3599

[MultiTroll]

Trump’s threats of violence should warn us what’s coming after impeachment



https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-threats-of-violence-should-warn-us-whats-coming-after-impeachment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-threats-of-violence-should-warn-us-whats-coming-after-impeachment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)
Bouty could we pitch in and get you an emotional support animal for the upcoming Senate vote which does not impeach Don?
Do you have an animal of choice?

[somerset]

Turns out the Republicans are right on this one. No crime was committed. The reasons they had rush to impeach was a lie (33 days they held on to them and then said after they impeached there was no hurry to get articles to senate), said they had overwhelming evidence which there is none as in zero plus they keep wanting to add to the articles and call witnesses, so yes, this was a major political move for the 2020 election. The only news I am waiting on is will any democrats vote to acquit. From my point of view if there are not a few democrats in there it really means they drew the line in the sand "It's us or them". Not sure if that will sit well with anyone that is not a democrat. November will be interesting, to say the least.

[boutons_deux]

‘Absolutely daft’:

Expert explains why Trump’s blanket defiance of subpoenas is without legal justification

according to law professor Frank O. Bowman III, who teaches at the University of Missouri,

the anti-subpoena arguments Trump and his allies have been making during his impeachment are “without precedent or legal justification (https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/constitutional-law-scholar-trumps-blanket-refusal-to-comply-with-subpoenas-is-without-precedent-or-legal-justification/).”

Patrick Philbin, one of Trump’s attorneys, has claimed that the

subpoenas issued by House committees prior to a House vote authorizing an impeachment inquiry are not valid. :lol

But Bowman strongly disagrees with Philbin’s reasoning — or lack thereof.

“The president’s position, incredibly, is that

if an ongoing oversight investigation begins to produce evidence that might result in impeachment,

the committees conducting that investigation somehow lose their subpoena authority

until the whole House declares a formal impeachment inquiry,” Bowman writes.

“This is, not to put too fine a point on it, absolutely daft.”

Trump and his defenders, according to Bowman, seriously underestimate the oversight powers that Congress has under the U.S. Constitution.

“Congress has both a

responsibility and a right to inquire closely into the operations of the federal agencies, programs and employees it authorizes, regulates and funds.

The power of inquiry includes the power to use subpoenas to compel production of testimony and documents.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/absolutely-daft-expert-explains-why-trumps-blanket-defiance-of-subpoenas-is-without-precedent-or-legal-justification/

feckless Dems fucked up, after Mueller report and again now, by not asking SCOTUS for an emergency ruling Trash/Barr's total obstructionism of Congress.

The above Constitutional power of Congress is exactly what the Repug/oligarchy wants to destroy with their "unitary executive" bullshit, which means Congress has NO power or oversight over the Exec branch

[spurraider21]

Turns out the Republicans are right on this one. No crime was committed.
oh, ok


The reasons they had rush to impeach was a lie (33 days they held on to them and then said after they impeached there was no hurry to get articles to senate), said they had overwhelming evidence which there is none as in zero plus they keep wanting to add to the articles and call witnesses, so yes, this was a major political move for the 2020 election. The only news I am waiting on is will any democrats vote to acquit. From my point of view if there are not a few democrats in there it really means they drew the line in the sand "It's us or them". Not sure if that will sit well with anyone that is not a democrat. November will be interesting, to say the least.
or maybe the republicans are wrong, and the only news we should be waiting on is will any republicans vote to remove. if there are not a few republicans in there it really means they drew the line in the sand "It's us or them." Not sure if that will sit well with anyone that is not a republican. November will be interesting, to say the least

[somerset]

Not sure why you replied to my comment but "thanks".

[spurraider21]

Not sure why you replied to my comment but "thanks".
because i had something to say in response to it. that's the purpose of the reply feature, last i checked

[boutons_deux]

Internet chomps ‘pretending lawyer’ Jay Sekulow for wasting time playing video of Pelosi passing out pen

Jay Sekulow, an attorney for President Donald Trump, suggested on Monday that the president should be acquitted at his impeachment trial because House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) handed out pens as souvenirs after signing the articles of impeachment.

Sekulow then played a clip, not of impeachment hearings, but of the signing of the articles of impeachment. Pelosi can be seen handing out pens as is traditionally done at major signings.

(https://www.kindest.com/campaign/raw-story-investigates-invest-in-courageous-progressive-journalism)

“Pens!” Sekulow bellowed. “Distributed! To the impeachment managers! A celebratory moment!”

“Think about that!” Sekulow demanded. “Think about this. A poignant moment.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/internet-chomps-pretending-lawyer-jay-sekulow-for-wasting-time-playing-video-of-pelosi-passing-out-pens/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/internet-chomps-pretending-lawyer-jay-sekulow-for-wasting-time-playing-video-of-pelosi-passing-out-pens/)

Jews for Jesus Sekulow, The Best People

[RandomGuy]

There has always been a fear that the executive would work to consolidate its power to the detriment of other, co-equal branches of government. That trend has been accelerating over the past 50 years (at least). The point is to do anything and everything from allowing that trend to continue accelerating.

you gotta fix money and gerrymandering, or nothing will get done, IMO.

[RandomGuy]

A good article on Bolton. There really aren't any "good guys" in this whole mess.

https://news.yahoo.com/bolton-who-may-hold-impeachment-bombshell-has-a-history-of-settling-scores-170021430.html

Conservatives like bullies. That's why Bolton has been a Fox "news" contributor forever, and why his star rose so highly in the Trump party, who will now turn on him to demonize him at every chance, which is how you became aware of it. The Right-Wing attack machine has kicked into high gear after he turned on them.

What does it say that the administration is rife with asshats like this?;'
'

[boutons_deux]

Turns out the Republicans are right on this one. No crime was committed. The reasons they had rush to impeach was a lie (33 days they held on to them and then said after they impeached there was no hurry to get articles to senate), said they had overwhelming evidence which there is none as in zero plus they keep wanting to add to the articles and call witnesses, so yes, this was a major political move for the 2020 election. The only news I am waiting on is will any democrats vote to acquit. From my point of view if there are not a few democrats in there it really means they drew the line in the sand "It's us or them". Not sure if that will sit well with anyone that is not a democrat. November will be interesting, to say the least.

:lol :lol :lol

[Thread]

Mitch just stated he does not have the votes to stop witnesses.

Grim business.

[boutons_deux]

Trump's legal team closed out his 'defense' by showing that

it had no defense

On Tuesday, Donald Trump’s legal team stood before the Senate to give its closing argument …

and discovered it didn’t have one.

Instead, Pat Philbin spent half an hour adding some footnotes to Alan Dershowitz’s Monday night muddle.

Pat Cipollone devoted 10 minutes to running some 20-year-old video of Democratic representatives complaining about Bill Clinton’s impeachment.

And Jay Sekulow provided America with an hour of television too incoherent even for Alex Jones.
Sekulow’s final speech wasn’t so much an argument as it was the world’s angriest tone poem,

a dissociative spew that drew from more conspiracy theories than four seasons of X-Files.

And if it sometimes seemed that Sekulow was channeling the robot from Lost in Space, he was most definitely lost.

But Sekulow did have a theme: Why won’t everyone stop picking on Donald Trump?

even when accepting such ideas as Joe Biden being corrupt, or

Donald Trump being the downtrodden underdog,

Sekulow failed to knit the threads together into something

that looked more organized than dryer lint.

If Adam Schiff gave a moving speech for the ages, and he did,

Sekulow’s coda didn’t merit a moment.

Mostly, what Sekulow achieved in an hour was the same thing his compatriots managed in a much shorter period—

a statement that he had nothing.

That there was no defense of Trump’s actions.

That there was no answer to the challenges posed by new evidence.

And he demonstrated that Donald

Trump selects lawyers by loyalty, not competence.

Not one of Trump’s attorneys could produce anything that looked like a closing argument.

Because that first requires an argument.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/28/1914688/-Trump-s-legal-team-closed-out-his-defense-by-showing-that-they-had-no-defense

[boutons_deux]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/760898/story_image/impeachmentshow915.png?1580200517

[Spurs Homer]

Mitch just stated he does not have the votes to stop witnesses.

Grim business.

lol

moscow mitch playing head games -

he knows he has the votes -
but is sandbagging to get trump to throw some more russian cash to gullible traitor senators -

"so - you might lose the election in your state - but this money will be nice to retire on!"

[Winehole23]

Mitch just stated he does not have the votes to stop witnesses.

Grim business.Possibility of the truth coming out publicly?

Grim indeed for the Trump cult.

[Thread]

Possibility of the truth coming out publicly?

Grim indeed for the Trump cult.

Shumer says up to 12 won't sign on. That's alarming.

I just hope the old man doesn't say "fuck it" & lets them come in without going thru the courts.

[Thread]

lol

moscow mitch playing head games -

he knows he has the votes -
but is sandbagging to get trump to throw some more russian cash to gullible traitor senators -

"so - you might lose the election in your state - but this money will be nice to retire on!"

I don't believe so, Homer. There's no need if he had the votes. He doesn't have them. The Senators, who aren't IMPEACHED see no upside to not having witnesses. There is more downside to voting otherwise.

[spurraider21]

Shumer says up to 12 won't sign on. That's alarming.

I just hope the old man doesn't say "fuck it" & lets them come in without going thru the courts.
what's there to worry about if nothing wrong was done and the call was perfect?

[RandomGuy]

I don't believe so, Homer. There's no need if he had the votes. He doesn't have them. The Senators, who aren't IMPEACHED see no upside to not having witnesses. There is more downside to voting otherwise.

Eyup.

As bad as the optics for the Trump party is now, it would look worse for them if they try to acquit with no witnesses, and they fucking know it. I was kind of hoping they would try.

[Thread]

what's there to worry about if nothing wrong was done and the call was perfect?

21, don't be purposely obtuse.

[Thread]

Eyup.

As bad as the optics for the Trump party is now, it would look worse for them if they try to acquit with no witnesses, and they fucking know it. I was kind of hoping they would try.

But, he's going to block the witnesses & go to court, RG. That will take months.

[spurraider21]

21, don't be purposely obtuse.
No, I'm serious.

But if your position is that Trump did something wrong and you just want him to get away with it because (R), then just say so.

[ducks]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/at-least-3-democrat-senators-considering-voting-to-acquit-trump-one-senator-may-surprise?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

3 democracts maybe more

Lol nancy !!!!

Go Dianne Feinstein go

[Thread]

No, I'm serious.

But if your position is that Trump did something wrong and you just want him to get away with it because (R), then just say so.

tee, hee.

[spurraider21]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/at-least-3-democrat-senators-considering-voting-to-acquit-trump-one-senator-may-surprise?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

3 democracts maybe more

Lol nancy !!!!

Go Dianne Feinstein go
integrity tbh... you shouldnt have your mind made up until the case is closed

[pgardn]

But, he's going to block the witnesses & go to court, RG. That will take months.

Same optics.
Block everything.

Hope orange turd does it.

[Spurs Homer]

I don't believe so, Homer. There's no need if he had the votes. He doesn't have them. The Senators, who aren't IMPEACHED see no upside to not having witnesses. There is more downside to voting otherwise.

nope

this is no different than the health care fiasco

repukes were set on sodomizing their own constituents like you and leaving you with zero health care

They were about to screw millions

until mccain had the balls to do the right thing

he saved people like you - and you all turned on him and called him a traitor


there is no mccain anymore


the GOP now can follow thru on their shredding of the constitution and acquit a 100% guilty criminal

people like you will cheer them on

[DMX7]

If the GOP is determine to acquit then it would be insane for them to allow witnesses... of course a fair trial demands witnesses and all the polling shows the American people including republicans want witnesses.

[ducks]

Key Senate Democrat says Trump team made 'persuasive' argument against obstruction article
https://www.yahoo.com/news/key-senate-democrat-says-trump-045537405.html

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1222281985395167232?s=19

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1222281985395167232?s=19

10 Hours late and a few dollars short, Qchris. :lol

[DMX7]

Mitch now saying he doesn't have the votes to block witnesses.

[Chris]

KNOW YOUR FACTS:

1. Transcript shows no conditionality

2. Zelensky says no pressure

3. Ukraine didn't know aid paused

4. Dem witnesses said POTUS didn't want conditionality

5. Aid released, Ukraine did nothing for it

6. POTUS bolstered Ukraine support

(Dems have no case.)

[spurraider21]

Not a transcript

[DarrinS]

Not a transcript

"a written or printed version of material originally presented in another medium."

By definition, it is.

[DMX7]

"a written or printed version of material originally presented in another medium."

By definition, it is.

I think this is what spurraider21 means here:


CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a
discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty
"Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form
as the conversation takes place.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

[Chris]

"a written or printed version of material originally presented in another medium."

By definition, it is.

Already went through this with them early on in the thread but like children they have to be reminded constantly.

[DarrinS]

I think this is what spurraider21 means here:



https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf


Duh

[DMX7]

Duh


CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a
discussion.

[Winehole23]

Shumer says up to 12 won't sign on. That's alarming.

I just hope the old man doesn't say "fuck it" & lets them come in without going thru the courts.One hypothesis is that courts will take the question in an expedited fashion.

If a court decides quickly there's a crime involved, a claim of executive privilege could evaporate faster than expected.

[Winehole23]

Ergo, the Trump reluctance to declare privilege.

[Thread]

One hypothesis is that courts will take the question in an expedited fashion.

If a court decides quickly there's a crime involved, a claim of executive privilege could evaporate faster than expected.

He has no other choice, Winester. & nothing to lose by taking it to the courts & starting as low a court as he can get into.

Once the parade starts there will be no staunching it.

& each day is going to bring a new leak, a new book, a new opine (like Kelly today)---the D's, in association with Media know this book & execute it to-the-letter.

Two choices:

1. Court.
2. No Court.

I'd Court & pray.

[Thread]

Ergo, the Trump reluctance to declare privilege.

He hasn't had to yet. That day is coming. Ain't gonna hurt to try. Like you said: if he committed a crime/crime...then we'll know soon enough & it'll be curtains.

The other shoe has not fallen yet. I don't BELIEVE it will---I really don't.

[DarrinS]

DMX7 still struggling with "transcribe"

[Thread]

Ergo, the Trump reluctance to declare privilege.

What do you think is going to happen, Winester, do you think he'll survive?

[DarrinS]

This will end up hurting Biden more than Trump.

Good job, Dems. :tu

[Reck]

This will end up hurting Biden more than Trump.

Good job, Dems. :tu

Apply your logic there, brains.

[Winehole23]

What do you think is going to happen, Winester, do you think he'll survive?Hard to say. Legal process is unpredictable. I honestly thoight there'd never be witnesses. That could change the optics of survival values for GOP Senators.

Then again it might not. They might say, we saw the witnesses, we're still not convinced.

Not an easy call. It's hard to predict how the drip drip drip of derogatory information will affect Trump. It might not.

He's survived a lot already. Maybe America prefers fascism to taxes for good stuff we all need.

[Winehole23]

Dp

[Winehole23]

Like you said earlier, Thread, if 5 GOP Senators break, the distance between 5 and 20 is maybe less than the party discipline of zero to four.

[Winehole23]

If the dam breaks, improbabilities might come in.

[spurraider21]

DMX7 still struggling with "transcribe"
:lol


Q Mr. President, are you concerned with what the second whistleblower may reveal about your conversation with Ukraine?

THE PRESIDENT: Not at all, because the call was a perfect call. You had stenographers, you had people that took it down exactly. It was a perfect call. It’s just a scam. This is a scam by the Democrats to try and win an election that they’re not going to win in 2020.

[Winehole23]

If the number is already 10 to 12 Republican Senators for witnesses, that's not a good sign for Trump.

[spurraider21]

it was a memo compiled by people based on their recollections of the call. its not what anybody would refer to as a transcript.

yes you can get hyper technical and show that the 3rd definition from this source says that a transcript can mean this or that, but we all know what the term transcript typically refers to, and there's a reason the released memo goes out of its way to point out that it is not a verbatim trasncript aka an actual line by line representation of what was said by the people on the call

[Winehole23]

This will end up hurting Biden more than Trump.

Good job, Dems. :tuWhat if Biden isn't the strongest candidate?

If so, then it could be like Thread said, like Nixon throwing away his presidency on dirty tricks against McGovern.

[spurraider21]

Like you said earlier, Thread, if 5 GOP Senators break, the distance between 5 and 20 is maybe less than the party discipline of zero to four.


If the dam breaks, improbabilities might come in.
this is true. nobody wants to be among the first to break ranks. but once somebody does, others may follow

its like in the classroom where nobody wants to be the first to hand in an exam, but once one person gets up, suddenly 20 people conveniently "finish their exams" within the next 30 seconds :lol

[boutons_deux]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=tyFQBNQN6yM&feature=emb_logo

[boutons_deux]

Fox News Turns On John Bolton | The Daily Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AEzA4avnxs&t=0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AEzA4avnxs&t=0s)

[boutons_deux]

The Trump Team’s Legal Defense Was a Tour de Force of Hypocrisy

From Ken Starr to Alan Dershowitz,

the president’s lawyers spewed illogical arguments that

contradicted their own well-known positions.

Republicans adopted no coherent narrative to explain why Trump did the things he’s admitted to doing, and

couldn’t even stay on the same page in terms of whether he did them at all.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/impeachment-gop-lawyers/ (https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/impeachment-gop-lawyers/)

[boutons_deux]

Trump Lawyers Try to Defend Trump by Impeaching Obama and Hunter Biden

Starr implied that the impeachment power should be dissolved.

He did that by pointing to the fact that we inherited it from British law, and that

if we kept ours, it would amount to adopting the British non-confidence vote.

since Republicans were just hoping to bury potential testimony from John Bolton, that, if true, would prove there was in fact a quid pro quo

The GOP probably doesn’t care about the occasional fallacious argument. :lol which Repug/Trash cult mob doesn't know what "fallacious" even means. something to do with sex! :lol

they brought in the corrupt former Attorney-General of Florida, Pamela Bondi, to smear Hunter Biden.

You may remember Bondi.

She asked Donald Trump (https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/10/politics/pam-bondi-donald-trump-donation/index.html) for a hefty campaign donation and

shortly afterward decided not to pursue a fraud case against Trump University.

Biden didn’t shake down the Ukraine to get his son a job – even Republicans failed to find anything resembling proof to suggest he did.

Biden was not using public money (tax dollars) for personal gain.

one of Trump’s lawyers tried to impeach Barack Obama.

he basically substituted Barack Obama’s name and the debunked Russian conspiracy theory that claims Ukraine interfered in 2016.

Chief Justice Roberts did nothing to rein in the lies and conspiracy theories used to amuse Republican Senators

The departure of facts and law is an American tragedy unfolding before our eyes.

If Trump’s lawyers lied in court the way they have here, they’d be sanctioned.

For all the jokes about lawyers and ethics, the fact is they are required to tell the truth before judicial tribunals –

which includes this proceeding.

the Senate majority is fine with foreign countries choosing our presidents.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/28/opinion-trump-lawyers-try-to-defend-trump-by-impeaching-obama-and-hunter-biden.html (https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/28/opinion-trump-lawyers-try-to-defend-trump-by-impeaching-obama-and-hunter-biden.html)

[Spurs Homer]

The only one who speaks the truth is the man who has recorded over 16,000 lies since becoming president. This is what republicans accept.

[Winehole23]

The only one who speaks the truth is the man who has recorded over 16,000 lies since becoming president. This is what republicans accept.
It's more sinister than that. It doesn't matter to Republicans if Trump lies.

How Republicans are acting now only makes sense if they think there will never be another free, fair election in the USA.

[baseline bum]

He hasn't had to yet. That day is coming. Ain't gonna hurt to try. Like you said: if he committed a crime/crime...then we'll know soon enough & it'll be curtains.

The other shoe has not fallen yet. I don't BELIEVE it will---I really don't.

We know he committed an impeachable offense (can't be a crime since he can't be charged with a crime in office) and it's not curtains, the Republicans in the senate will acquit. You'll hear a few pretend they won't and make a stink for a couple of days but in the end they'll fall in line behind our Dear Leader like they always do, with at most Gardner and Collins voting for removal to help their re-election campaigns (and Manchin and Jones voting acquit for the same reason).

[baseline bum]

If the number is already 10 to 12 Republican Senators for witnesses, that's not a good sign for Trump.

It's 10 to 12 who will still vote to acquit but make toothless remarks to the media about how they don't like the actions of this crook despite them continuously enabling him. Basically 10 or 12 Ben Sasse's in the GOP senate.

[Winehole23]

It's 10 to 12 who will still vote to acquit but make toothless remarks to the media about how they don't like the actions of this crook despite them continuously enabling him. Basically 10 or 12 Ben Sasse's in the GOP senate.If they allow Bolton to testify to the US Senate, on TV, that Trump was doing a crime, the downstream wreckage for Rs could be unpredictable -- especially if the Senate then votes to acquit.

[Thread]

We know he committed an impeachable offense (can't be a crime since he can't be charged with a crime in office) and it's not curtains, the Republicans in the senate will acquit. You'll hear a few pretend they won't and make a stink for a couple of days but in the end they'll fall in line behind our Dear Leader like they always do, with at most Gardner and Collins voting for removal to help their re-election campaigns (and Manchin and Jones voting acquit for the same reason).

But, there won't be another (shoe) drop...a "break-in at the Watergate Hotel." If that happens then it will be a the end.

I just do not understand why he would bother with this shit & Ukraine. He stood a better than even chance of beating Biden at default. Christ, just compete & accept the result come November.

& frankly I can see HIM doing this...almost out of childish boredom, laziness.

I still hope he (gets off) though. & it may not be true after all.

[Thread]

It's 10 to 12 who will still vote to acquit but make toothless remarks to the media about how they don't like the actions of this crook despite them continuously enabling him. Basically 10 or 12 Ben Sasse's in the GOP senate.

Clinton got off, bum. & he lied under oath. I grudged it, but, I understood. But, Clinton apologized once the dress turned up. The old man will never apologize. "If I apologize can I stay like Clinton did?"

"No."

"Then I ain't apologizin'."

[baseline bum]

If they allow Bolton to testify to the US Senate, on TV, that Trump was doing a crime, the downstream wreckage for Rs could be unpredictable -- especially if the Senate then votes to acquit.

If they don't let him they're part of the cover-up. Bolton's not likely to tell us anything we don't know already from Sondland. They'll still vote to acquit because the Democrats' process was unfair or because Trump is new at this and isn't a career politician and has to be handled with kid gloves like a toddler or because Bolton just has an axe to grind and wants to sell books to pissed off Democrats, etc. One way the downstream wreckage would be entirely predictable would be if they actually removed our Dear Leader from office. It would hand the Democrats a clean sweep on the presidency, senate, and house, because Republican voters love our Dear Leader like no other and would just stay home in protest in November. So it'll be toothless condemnation but line up behind Trump for the actual vote.

[baseline bum]

Clinton got off, bum. & he lied under oath. I grudged it, but, I understood. But, Clinton apologized once the dress turned up. The old man will never apologize. "If I apologize can I stay like Clinton did?"

"No."

"Then I ain't apologizin'."

No Trumptard seemed to find it a big deal when Sessions perjured himself while still in Trump's good graces, so I don't want to hear any whining about Clinton lying about a blowjob.

[Will Hunting]

We know he committed an impeachable offense (can't be a crime since he can't be charged with a crime in office) and it's not curtains, the Republicans in the senate will acquit. You'll hear a few pretend they won't and make a stink for a couple of days but in the end they'll fall in line behind our Dear Leader like they always do, with at most Gardner and Collins voting for removal to help their re-election campaigns (and Manchin and Jones voting acquit for the same reason).
Pretty much this. You’ll have a lot of Romney types out there who puff their chest and might even vote to allow witnesses, but in the end they’ll fall in line.

[Thread]

If they allow Bolton to testify to the US Senate, on TV, that Trump was doing a crime, the downstream wreckage for Rs could be unpredictable -- especially if the Senate then votes to acquit.

But, it's he said/he said, Winester. Unless Bolton has a tape which I fear like the plague.

Or, they put Mulvaney under oath & ask him did he tell the old man not to do what he did anyway.

I still can't get past the Nixon link with McGovern. Drives me crazy.

[Thread]

No Trumptard seemed to find it a big deal when Sessions perjured himself while still in Trump's good graces, so I don't want to hear any whining about Clinton lying about a blowjob.

The blowjob was between Him & Hillary. The cover-up is the crime. He lied under oath even though he knew that he'd be acquitted had he told the truth to begin with.

I don't recall Sessions perjuring himself, bum. Explain please.

[Thread]

Pretty much this. You’ll have a lot of Romney types out there who puff their chest and might even vote to allow witnesses, but in the end they’ll fall in line.

Unless there is a (different) bombshell during witness testimony.

[Will Hunting]

Unless there is a (different) bombshell during witness testimony.
I can’t even imagine what would need to come out in witness testimony in order to get a 2/3rds majority to remove Trump from office. That’s well beyond just Republicans in purple and lean-red states, it’d require votes from Republicans in solid red states who’d be nervous as shit about getting primaried if they voted to impeach. Trump’s approval rating would need to be in like the low 20s for impeachment to happen.

[baseline bum]

I can’t even imagine what would need to come out in witness testimony in order to get a 2/3rds majority to remove Trump from office. That’s well beyond just Republicans in purple and lean-red states, it’d require votes from Republicans in solid red states who’d be nervous as shit about getting primaried if they voted to impeach. Trump’s approval rating would need to be in like the low 20s for impeachment to happen.

There would have to be audio of Trump explicitly ordering a hit on Yovanovich, and a failed assassination attempt where she got away. And audio of Parnas calling Trump and telling him "We fucked up. She got away." And Ted Cruz would still say no crime was committed because here she was in the house giving testimony. That MIGHT get you to 67. And Trump's approval rating would still be in the 40s.

[Spurminator]

There would have to be audio of Trump explicitly ordering a hit on Yovanovich, and a failed assassination attempt where she got away. And audio of Parnas calling Trump and telling him "We fucked up. She got away." And Ted Cruz would still say no crime was committed because here she was in the house giving testimony. That MIGHT get you to 67. And Trump's approval rating would still be in the 40s.

I don't think that would even get the vote to 55.

[Thread]

I can’t even imagine what would need to come out in witness testimony in order to get a 2/3rds majority to remove Trump from office. That’s well beyond just Republicans in purple and lean-red states, it’d require votes from Republicans in solid red states who’d be nervous as shit about getting primaried if they voted to impeach. Trump’s approval rating would need to be in like the low 20s for impeachment to happen.

True, I just hope (it) ain't out there waiting on us to detonate.

[Spurs Homer]

It's more sinister than that. It doesn't matter to Republicans if Trump lies.

How Republicans are acting now only makes sense if they think there will never be another free, fair election in the USA.

With gerrymandering, russian interference & a certified Cult in place

there may never be another free/fair election


only way to stop them is for the 65% sleeping Americans to wake the fuck up and realize and understand
we have been attacked from within and get rid of the manchurian traitor cult leader criminal

i fear they will snooze and hit the snooze button until 2028 and by then there wont even be laws to stop the govt

[Will Hunting]

I don't think that would even get the vote to 55.
:lol I was going to say, that scenario literally as BB described it gets 60 votes at the most.

[Winehole23]

What if jurors were in the loop?

1222557245277458432

[Thread]

What if jurors were in the loop?

1222557245277458432

Every single day it is (something) new. It's by political design escorted by MSM.

***& I don't think Mitch has the votes---he's portending to having them, but, I highly doubt it.

We're going to have to have witnesses, or, a court fight, or, perhaps even both in the end.

[Spurs Homer]

Bolton sent a letter to Dem Engel on sept 23

asking DEMS to investigate yovanovitch ousting


lololol


bolton = 2nd whistleblower


ok

call the WB as a witness

[Winehole23]

Every single day it is (something) new. It's by political design escorted by MSM.

***& I don't think Mitch has the votes---he's portending to having them, but, I highly doubt it.

We're going to have to have witnesses, or, a court fight, or, perhaps even both in the end.how is that the old man hired/hangs with so many incompetent traitors?

Cohen, Kelly, Bolton, Parnas, etc.

[Thread]

how is that the old man hired/hangs with so many incompetent traitors?

Cohen, Kelly, Bolton, Parnas, etc.

Rats.

Cohen hurts, & he should have known better than to bring Kelly in close, he is an Obama guy.

[boutons_deux]

Bolton urged House Dems to investigate Ukraine ambassador’s firing two days before impeachment launched

Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) blew up President Donald

Trump’s claims that John Bolton kept his concerns about Ukraine to himself.
The New York Democrat, who chairs the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, revealed Wednesday that Bolton urged him “unprompted” in September to look into the ousting of former Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.

Bolton and Engel spoke by phone Sept. 23 — two days before House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a formal impeachment inquiry — and Bolton strongly implied something improper had taken place around Yovanovitch’s removal from her diplomatic post in Kyiv.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/revealed-bolton-urged-house-dems-to-investigate-ukraine-ambassadors-firing-two-days-before-impeachment-launched/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3607

[boutons_deux]

Trump White House sends formal threat to John Bolton —

and warns him not to publish his book

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-white-house-sends-formal-threat-to-john-bolton-and-warns-him-not-to-publish-his-book-cnn/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3607

[boutons_deux]

Lev Parnas’ lawyer ties Lindsey Graham to corrupt Ukraine scheme

Rudy Giuliani delivered a letter in late 2018 to Sen. Lindsey Graham calling for sanctions on Ukrainian government officials,

the document described the Ukrainian politicians and business leaders as an “organized crime syndicate”

Giuliani also showed Parnas a similar letter sent to Sigal Mandelker, then a top official at the U.S. Treasury Department, which enforces foreign sanctions.

letter arrived a month before Giuliani tried to help former Ukrainian top prosecutor Viktor Shokin travel to the U.S. for a meeting with Graham,

Several weeks earlier, President Donald

Trump’s attorney sent a letter of his own to Graham asking his staff to help three unnamed Ukrainians obtain visas to visit the U.S. and share information about the Bidens.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/lev-parnas-lawyer-ties-lindsey-graham-to-corrupt-ukraine-scheme/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3607 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/lev-parnas-lawyer-ties-lindsey-graham-to-corrupt-ukraine-scheme/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3607)

[RandomGuy]

But, he's going to block the witnesses & go to court, RG. That will take months.

A trial without witnesses is a coverup.

[DarrinS]

Trump White House sends formal threat to John Bolton —

and warns him not to publish his book

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-white-house-sends-formal-threat-to-john-bolton-and-warns-him-not-to-publish-his-book-cnn/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3607





Lol, "formal threat"

1222581995374555136

[RandomGuy]

Pretty much this. You’ll have a lot of Romney types out there who puff their chest and might even vote to allow witnesses, but in the end they’ll fall in line.

Eyup.

Gonna be awful hard for them to defend that though.

Republicans got burned when voters turned on them because of the Clinton impeachment.

They are all seeming to operate under the illusion that voters always punish the party pushing to impeach, as if what happened here was just like lying about a BJ.

They are so wrapped up in their information bubble, that quite of a few of them have got to actually believe that.

Republicans were on the wrong side of the Clinton impeachment, and their replacement, the Trump Party, is on the wrong side of this one.

[RandomGuy]

I am a useful idiot.


In political jargon, a useful idiot is a derogatory term for a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically used by the cause's leaders.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

[boutons_deux]

‘The president is afraid’:

Historian tells CNN that Trump’s attempt to block Bolton’s book is an epic blunder

Timothy Naftali ... , told a CNN panel on Wednesday that President Donald Trump’s attempt to block former national security adviser John Bolton from publishing his book would be a massive political blunder.

the move would backfire and make it more likely that vulnerable Republican senators would call for Bolton to testify.

“One of the reasons why this is… a bad political strategy [is] there are people who don’t want to be part of a coverup,” he said.

“This kind of letter is sending a signal that the president is afraid.

I don’t think it’s helpful to Murkowski, Lamar Alexander, Collins, Romney.

The president is basically saying, ‘We don’t want anybody to see this.'”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/the-president-is-afraid-historian-tells-cnn-that-trumps-attempt-to-block-boltons-book-is-an-epic-blunder/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3607 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/the-president-is-afraid-historian-tells-cnn-that-trumps-attempt-to-block-boltons-book-is-an-epic-blunder/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3607)

Will Bolton be Trash's John Dean?

[boutons_deux]

‘The worst I’ve seen’: Conservative reacts in horror to Trump’s ‘dangerous’ abuse of executive powers

Hillyer argues that the strongest defense of Trump’s conduct lies in

an expansive view of executive power that makes the president virtually unaccountable for any wrongdoing.

“Their theory of an uber-powerful president is constitutionally bogus and, worse, quite dangerous,”

Trump’s decision to hold off legislatively approved military aid to Ukraine for his own political benefit was a violation of Congress’s most vital single power.

Trump’s delay of statutorily mandated military assistance to Ukraine,

a delay about which he wrongly refused to inform the Senate,

one overcome only after the whistle was blown against him and

which even then resulted in a failure to distribute $35 million by the legal deadline,

Trump actually transgressed upon the single most important authority of Congress, namely the power of the purse,” he argues.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/the-worst-ive-seen-conservative-reacts-in-horror-to-trumps-dangerous-abuse-of-executive-powers/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3607

"uber-powerful president" is exactly what the Repugs/oligarchy/dickheadh/Barr want,

a President who effectively is an unconstrained authoritarian (as long as he is a Repug, NOT a Dem) in one-party Repug govt.

[boutons_deux]

Alan Dershowitz just argued presidents can do whatever they want to get re-elected

Trump's alleged Ukraine quid pro quo wasn't impeachable because

he was actually just acting in the "public interest."

he was making the case that because

every

president believes it's in the public interest to win an election, :lol

any action geared toward securing victory is immune from impeachment. :lol

https://theweek.com/speedreads/892498/alan-dershowitz-just-argued-presidents-whatever-want-reelected (https://theweek.com/speedreads/892498/alan-dershowitz-just-argued-presidents-whatever-want-reelected)

Holy Shit

Did Dersh contract a brain-eating parasite from the Epstein little girls he fucked?

[Spurs Homer]

Alan Dershowitz just argued presidents can do whatever they want to get re-elected

Trump's alleged Ukraine quid pro quo wasn't impeachable because

he was actually just acting in the "public interest."

he was making the case that because

every

president believes it's in the public interest to win an election, :lol

any action geared toward securing victory is immune from impeachment. :lol

https://theweek.com/speedreads/892498/alan-dershowitz-just-argued-presidents-whatever-want-reelected (https://theweek.com/speedreads/892498/alan-dershowitz-just-argued-presidents-whatever-want-reelected)

Holy Shit

Did Dersh contract a brain-eating parasite from the Epstein little girls he fucked?






welp

you can do a lot of great great things with your Harvard education...

or

you can use it to prostitute yourself and help destroy your own country like Deroshitz

[Reck]

1222514093812342787

How do you square this Republicans? That’s tuff

[baseline bum]

1222514093812342787

How do you square this Republicans? That’s tuff

They'll hear Bolton for optics and then disregard what he said in the actual vote.

[Reck]

They'll hear Bolton for optics and then disregard what he said in the actual vote.

From what I've read this is highly unlikely. Gardner already said he'll vote for no witnesses. I guess he might as well because he's toast anyways. Kind of like Dean Heller with his ill fated vote on Rape-A-Naugh.

Man, fuck these Republicans faggots.

[baseline bum]

From what I've read this is highly unlikely. Gardner already said he'll vote for no witnesses. I guess he might as well because he's toast anyways. Kind of like Dean Heller with his ill fated vote on Rape-A-Naugh.

Man, fuck these Republicans faggots.

Hmmm, I thought Moscow Mitch didn't have the votes to stop witnesses. Wouldn't surprise me if he did I guess.

[Spurs Homer]

Hmmm, I thought Moscow Mitch didn't have the votes to stop witnesses. Wouldn't surprise me if he did I guess.

said it from the start:

there will never be a 4th vote

susan collins and her weak repuke traitors can vote for witnesses

knowing (moscow mitch already sealed the deal)

that there will never be a 4th vote

then she will helplessly plead; “we tried but could not find a 4th vote”

[ChumpDumper]

Lol, "formal threat"

1222581995374555136:lol only an idiot would think Bolton filled his book with classified information.

Hi, Darrin!

[benefactor]

:lol only an idiot would think Bolton filled his book with classified information.

Hi, Darrin!
Well of course Trumptards think Bolton is some Johnny-come-lately politician like Dear Leader that doesn't know what is classified and what is not. He worked for three previous presidents.

[Will Hunting]

From what I've read this is highly unlikely. Gardner already said he'll vote for no witnesses. I guess he might as well because he's toast anyways. Kind of like Dean Heller with his ill fated vote on Rape-A-Naugh.

Man, fuck these Republicans faggots.
Last I heard Cocaine Mitch was frantically running around trying to get votes to block witnesses, did something change?

Id be surprised if there are no witnesses. Republicans need to put on some semblance of a dog and pony show before the acquit, they can’t overtly make this a kangaroo hearing.

EDIT: Nevermind, now I’m seeing it. Outside of Collins and Romney there won’t be any Republicans voting for witnesses. Pretty embarrassing that Schumer couldn’t have put more heat on Republicans up for re-election in 2020 swing states.

[RandomGuy]

Well of course Trumptards think Bolton is some Johnny-come-lately politician like Dear Leader that doesn't know what is classified and what is not. He worked for three previous presidents.

...and just like that John Bolton became a mooslim loving commie libtard anti-vaxxer born in kenya.

https://img1.looper.com/img/gallery/why-forrest-gump-2-never-got-made/intro-1554741430.jpg

[boutons_deux]

[QUOTE=Will Hunting;10051955Republicans need to put on some semblance of a dog and pony show before the acquit[/QUOTE]

no, they don't. That's not Moscow Bitch's plan, never was.

If Repugs had their way, they would received the A of I and immediately dismissed them.

[RandomGuy]

Id be surprised if there are no witnesses.

At this point I doubt I can be surprised at how morally bankrupt the Trump Party that replaced the Republican party is.

Bunch of sniveling cowards living in constant fear of a mean tweet. Holy fuckballs.

(edit)
I had thought that unlikely too, but have seen a few accounts of vote wrangling that say otherwise. Too much uncertainty to call it until it happens.

[baseline bum]

At this point I doubt I can be surprised at how morally bankrupt the Trump Party that replaced the Republican party is.

Bunch of sniveling cowards living in constant fear of a mean tweet. Holy fuckballs.

(edit)
I had thought that unlikely too, but have seen a few accounts of vote wrangling that say otherwise. Too much uncertainty to call it until it happens.

Trump's not the cause, he's the symptom of the deterioration of the GOP ever since they went nuts over a black man being president.

[Will Hunting]

Trump's not the cause, he's the symptom of the deterioration of the GOP ever since they went nuts over a black man being president.
Imo it goes back further than that. After the colossal failure that was GWBs presidency they only had two options, admit their deregulation bullshit failed or go crazy and move further right. They chose the latter.

[ducks]

MSNBC's Chris Matthews: Trump has a 'good shot' at being re-elected since 'so many things are moving in his direction'

[ducks]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/schiff-bolton-lack-credibility-senate-impeachment-trial

[ducks]

Then-Sen. Barack Obama, in 2005, echoed those arguments, calling Bolton "damaged goods" whose appointment as ambassador means "we will have less credibility and ironically be less equipped to reform the United Nations in the way that it needs to be reformed.

[ducks]

Schiff made similar arguments back in May 2005, saying in an interview with CNN's "Crossfire" that Bolton was "more focused on the next job than doing well at the last job" when he was up for nomination as ambassador to the United Nations under then-President George W. Bush.

"And particularly given the history, where we've had the politicizing of intelligence over WMD [weapons of mass destruction], why we would pick someone who the very same issue has been raised repeatedly, and that is John Bolton's politicization of the intelligence he got on Cuba and other issues, why we would want someone with that lack of credibility, I can't understand," Schiff had said.

'COUP

[ducks]

Game over
Republicans take the house back and keep senate and whitehouse

[TSA]

The precedence set for future presidents is very interesting.
They can openly ask for foreign countries and their security agencies to play a role in the election in favor of the incumbent. Any president can now ask for foreign aid in disrupting an election if it starts looking bad for them.You didn’t say shit when it happened to Trump. Fuck yourself.

https://mobile.twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1222724126659444738

[spurraider21]

You didn’t say shit when it happened to Trump. Fuck yourself.

https://mobile.twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1222724126659444738
how did any of that influence the election?

[ducks]

JANUARY 29TH, 2020
Report: McConnell ‘Increasingly Confident’ That He Will Have Votes To Block Witnesses In Senate Trial ‘By Friday’

[ducks]

Newt Gingrich: 'Arrogant elitist' Schiff was exposed when he said Trump's future 'cannot be decided at the ballot box'

[Ball Buster]

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1222733799555043328?s=21

[Chris]

From what I've read this is highly unlikely. Gardner already said he'll vote for no witnesses. I guess he might as well because he's toast anyways. Kind of like Dean Heller with his ill fated vote on Rape-A-Naugh.

Man, fuck these Republicans faggots.

lol meltdown

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1222728793250508801?s=19

[Reck]

lol meltdown

You think that is a meltdown? I know you’re stupid but derp level stupid? It appears so.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/CarpeDonktum/status/1222777975411814400?s=19
https://twitter.com/CarpeDonktum/status/1222778709234606080?s=19

[boutons_deux]

Trump's not the cause, he's the symptom of the deterioration of the GOP ever since they went nuts over a black man being president.

The Repug deterioration goes back long before Obama, although Obama's Presidency flushed out the American racism, exploited by the Repugs since Goldwater with Trash getting famous in politics with his racist birtherism.

It's very clear that the oligarchy strategy, with Repugs as their foot soldiers/hit men, is to be THE one and only party forever, enriching themselves way beyond the current inequality, in a White Male Christian theocracy. The politicized Federal judiciary will allow, even make it happen. It's unstoppable.

America is fucked and unfuckable.

[DarrinS]

The Repug deterioration goes back long before Obama, although Obama's Presidency flushed out the American racism, exploited by the Repugs since Goldwater with Trash getting famous in politics with his racist birtherism.

It's very clear that the oligarchy strategy, with Repugs as their foot soldiers/hit men, is to be THE one and only party forever, enriching themselves way beyond the current inequality, in a White Male Christian theocracy. The politicized Federal judiciary will allow, even make it happen. It's unstoppable.

America is fucked and unfuckable.


^This is your brain on rawstory

[RandomGuy]

^This is your brain on rawstory

:lol calling someone out for biased sources.

That is funny. This is your brain on useful idiot.

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1222728793250508801?s=19

These people are counting on stupid mother fuckers like you to not know what this guy was fired for.

(slow clap)

They were right.

[boutons_deux]

Is ignorant, ideation-challenged, gullible Darrin attacking the messenger, yet again? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Schiff made similar arguments back in May 2005, saying in an interview with CNN's "Crossfire" that Bolton was "more focused on the next job than doing well at the last job" when he was up for nomination as ambassador to the United Nations under then-President George W. Bush.

"And particularly given the history, where we've had the politicizing of intelligence over WMD [weapons of mass destruction], why we would pick someone who the very same issue has been raised repeatedly, and that is John Bolton's politicization of the intelligence he got on Cuba and other issues, why we would want someone with that lack of credibility, I can't understand," Schiff had said.

'COUPBolton bad now, we get it.

[hater]

:lmao :lmao this shit show is gonna end the same way 2016 election night ended

With snowflakes, manginas and shillarytards crying their eyes off :lmao

:lol

This will be beautiful to watch

Will make the Kavanaughty asskicking like a walk in the park :lol

trump about to get acquited :lol


called it on page 1

[ChumpDumper]

trump about to get acquited :lol


called it on page 1:lol literally everyone here said he would be acquitted.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1222728793250508801?s=19

ma niga Shokin goin in raw on the old geezer :lmao

[hater]

:lol literally everyone here said he would be acquitted.

thats not all I called, mangina

read my entire prediction

[hater]

:lmao CNN on meltdown mode :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

thats not all I called, mangina

read my entire prediction:lol literally everyone here said he would be acquitted.

You're not special.

[hater]

:lmao everyone tune in to male reporter Ron Maddow tonight :lmao

the meltdown will be fucking epic :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Lol

justice roberts

just told rand paul to go fuck himself and his whistleblower question


:cry muh distraction got turned down

[RandomGuy]

Game over
Republicans take the house back and keep senate and whitehouse

oooh saving this one.

[RandomGuy]

Lol

justice roberts

just told rand paul to go fuck himself and his whistleblower question


:cry muh distraction got turned down

Rand Paul to 'insist' on whistleblower question blocked by John Roberts

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Thursday will try to force Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts to read out loud a question regarding the anonymous whistleblower at the center of the impeachment inquiry.

Paul’s strategy, outlined on Twitter by his spokesman, will escalate a standoff between the two men on the Senate floor after much behind-the-scenes haggling.

:rollin

Antagonizing the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Another winning strategy by the Trump party. :lmao

[ducks]

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/gallup-poll-race-relations-see-double-digit-increase-since-trump-entered-white-house/

Lol nancy

[boutons_deux]

if Ayn Rand Paul outs the WB, a Federal crime, will corrupt Billy Barr prosecute?

[Reck]

oooh saving this one.

Why? ducks thinks Trump will win re-election and then win a third term while at it.

[boutons_deux]

‘You can’t make this up!’:

Senate erupts in laughter

when Adam Schiff reveals

DOJ lawyers just completely contradicted Trump’s impeachment defense

Schiff:

“Today, while we’ve been debating whether a president can be impeached for essentially bogus claims of privilege,

for attempting to use the courts to cover up misconduct,

the Justice Department in resisting subpoenas is in court today …

because, as we know, they’re in here arguing Congress must go to court to enforce its subpoenas,

but they’re in the court saying ‘Congress, thou shalt not do that,’” he explained.

“So the judge says:

‘If the Congress can’t enforce its subpoenas in court, then what remedy is there?’

And the Justice Department lawyer’s response is

‘Impeachment! Impeachment!’”

At that, the Senate chamber burst into laughter.

“You can’t make it up!” Schiff said.

“What more evidence do we need of the bad faith of this effort to cover up?”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/you-cant-make-this-up-senate-erupts-in-laughter-when-adam-schiff-reveals-doj-lawyers-just-completely-contradicted-trumps-impeachment-defense/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/you-cant-make-this-up-senate-erupts-in-laughter-when-adam-schiff-reveals-doj-lawyers-just-completely-contradicted-trumps-impeachment-defense/)

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1223031750651195405?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/alx/status/1223011485993127936?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/alx/status/1223011485993127936?s=19Why don't the Republicans subpoena him now?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1223004375586570243?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1223004375586570243?s=19Which witnesses have actually testified in this trial?

Let's see the list.

[Reck]

CNN good now.

[Chris]

Which witnesses have actually testified in this trial?

Let's see the list.

Go fetch it.


Chop-chop.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1222993231660699648?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

Go fetch it.


Chop-chop.Qhris folds.

lol Qhris

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1222993231660699648?s=19J:lolhn S:loll:lolm:loln

[Chris]

Schiff: Whistleblowers unfiltered testimony will be heard very soon


What happened?

[Chris]

Qhris folds.

lol Qhris

You brought it up. Go fetch the list or spin your wheels.

[Chris]

J:lolhn S:loll:lolm:loln

ad hominem

[Chris]

Which witnesses have actually testified in this trial?

Let's see the list.

I thought the whistleblower was going to testify. What happened?

[Chris]

ChumpDumper

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1223031750651195405?s=19
he's right.

you can pay for opposition research. there has never been anything against paying for services from foreigners. nothing precludes the exchange of money for services, as long as you pay fair market value, because there is then no "influence." you've already paid them for what they've given, so you dont "owe" them anything going forward

what you cant have is a foreign national donating to your campaign... or giving to a candidate something of value without compensation in return. because then there is the inference that favors are expected

[benefactor]

:lol whistleblower
:lol still chasing red herrings

[weebo]

I thought the whistleblower was going to testify. What happened?

witnesses or STFU flatfoot

[thispego]

Oh baby. We get to put this baby to bed tomorrow, boiz

[ChumpDumper]

You brought it up. Go fetch the list or spin your wheels.I asked you a direct question and you bitched out.

Stop whining and go back to your safe space, snowflake.

[pgardn]

It might be best for the blue team.
To know they never had a chance.

We leave with an understanding that things work like this:

Trump is doing what he thinks is best for the country by asking a foreign government thus their intelligence agencies to investigate a presidential opponent. But because Trump thinks this will lead him to be re elected and thinks this is of course best for the country, it’s okay?

This is so pitiful it hurts.
Dershowitz has hit the slimiest layer of logic possible and the red team thinks it’s Gold.

[ChumpDumper]

I thought the whistleblower was going to testify. What happened?The Republicans can subpoena whomever they want.

What are they afraid of?

[DMX7]

1222971083617456134

[thispego]

It might be best for the blue team.
To know they never had a chance.

We leave with an understanding that things work like this:

Trump is doing what he thinks is best for the country by asking a foreign government thus their intelligence agencies to investigate a presidential opponent. But because Trump thinks this will lead him to be re elected and thinks this is of course best for the country, it’s okay?

This is so pitiful it hurts.
Dershowitz has hit the slimiest layer of logic possible and the red team thinks it’s Gold.

That’s always been your sides assertion that the request for investigation was for the sole intent of helping trump’s reelection. Just because your team believes it so deeply, doesn’t make it fact. It is and only ever has been an allegation, a hope, and a prayer by the dems

[ChumpDumper]

That’s always been your sides assertion that the request for investigation was for the sole intent of helping trump’s reelection. Just because your team believes it so deeply, doesn’t make it fact. It is and only ever has been an allegation, a hope, and a prayer by the demsWell just get Dennison to tell everyone that under oath.

What is he afraid of?

[pgardn]

That’s always been your sides assertion that the request for investigation was for the sole intent of helping trump’s reelection. Just because your team believes it so deeply, doesn’t make it fact. It is and only ever has been an allegation, a hope, and a prayer by the dems

Its exactly what happened. And now it’s blue team’s claim. It’s hopelessly clear. Read the call. Listen to the red team logic of refutation That’s all that’s needed.

But it’s okay, we now know the new rules for president.
So when blue team has its shot at office... good luck with the king making.

[thispego]

Well just get Dennison to tell everyone that under oath.

What is he afraid of?

No reason to placate the dems any further. If trump is so corrupt they should have waited until he committed a real crime to launch impeachment, instead of reaching on this absolute absurdity. Democrats come out looking hypocritical, deceptive, self righteous, and obvious beneficiaries of their own double standards.

[Chris]

I asked you a direct question and you bitched out.

Stop whining and go back to your safe space, snowflake.

I'm not going to fetch some irrelevant data for you so I can find out about part 2 of your assertion. You should take some time off from the forum. You've completely lost the plot.

[thispego]

Its exactly what happened. And now it’s blue team’s claim. It’s hopelessly clear. Read the call. Listen to the red team logic of refutation That’s all that’s needed.

But it’s okay, we now know the new rules for president.
So when blue team has its shot at office... good luck with the king making.

Nothing will change. Mulvaney said it best, this sort of shit happens all the time - get over it. Stop crying because you lost (in 2016)

[Chris]

The Republicans can subpoena whomever they want.

What are they afraid of?

Schiff said he was going to testify, then swept him under rug.

What happened?

[ChumpDumper]

No reason to placate the dems any further. If trump is so corrupt they should have waited until he committed a real crime to launch impeachment, instead of reaching on this absolute absurdity. Democrats come out looking hypocritical, deceptive, self righteous, and obvious beneficiaries of their own double standards.You didn't answer the question.

You're afraid as well, it seems.

I don't blame you.

[ChumpDumper]

Schiff said he was going to testify, then swept him under rug.

What happened?The Republicans can subpoena whomever they want.

What happened?

[Chris]

beep boop

[pgardn]

Nothing will change. Mulvaney said it best, this sort of shit happens all the time - get over it. Stop crying because you lost (in 2016)

The only thing that has changed is presidential power.
We already knew/know the results.
Nothing to cry about until blue team goes with the logic used by your dumb ass.
2020 and beyond may be good for exactly no one, but especially if the team that holds power now loses.
The drop will be high velocity.

[ChumpDumper]

[non answer]Just say you're afraid like all the others.

[thispego]

The only thing that has changed is presidential power.
We already knew/know the results.
Nothing to cry about until blue team goes with the logic used by your dumb ass.
2020 and beyond may be good for exactly no one, but especially if the team that holds power now loses.
The drop will be high velocity.
The presidency is no more or less powerful, no matter what cnn tells you.

[ChumpDumper]

The presidency is no more or less powerful, no matter what cnn tells you.How do you figure over the past 40 years?

Honest question.

[Chris]

Honest question.

As opposed to the dishonest questions you ask 99.9% of the time. :lol

You shit your pants good tonight.

[pgardn]

The presidency is no more or less powerful, no matter what cnn tells you.

You are totally wrong.
When a blue team president uses foreign intelligence for election services you will feel it.
And I will say it’s wrong again.
And I don’t watch FOX (where you got your Mulvaney comment most likely)or CNN.

Keep making shit up. It’s not working.

[ducks]

Lamar Alexander will vote "no" on witnesses and new evidence
Lamar Alexander will vote "no" on witnesses and new evidence

[ChumpDumper]

As opposed to the dishonest questions you ask 99.9% of the time. :lol

You shit your pants good tonight.ad hominem

[ChumpDumper]

Lamar Alexander will vote "no" on witnesses and new evidence
Lamar Alexander will vote "no" on witnesses and new evidenceYep. Scared.

[pgardn]

Lamar Alexander will vote "no" on witnesses and new evidence
Lamar Alexander will vote "no" on witnesses and new evidence

What a surprise!
This will certainly change the outcome of the senate trial. Trump will now remain president!

[ElNono]

"a written or printed version of material originally presented in another medium."

By definition, it is.

This has been discussed ad-nauseum already, but there's an actual full complete transcript in Dear Leader's possession. It really wouldn't take long to dispel the notion that this perfect call was all that upon looking at the actual real deal.

Like I was saying with witnesses and other documents, POTUS seems to be allergic to simply show the evidence that backs up his contention that he's innocent. Pretty puzzling, tbh

[ElNono]

This will end up hurting Biden more than Trump.

Good job, Dems. :tu

Difficult to hurt Biden even further, he's as much of an idiot as Trump.