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pgardn
01-24-2020, 09:35 AM
havent been paying attention to this snoozefest ma nigas

whats the score?

To make you feel proper:

Assad 100
Democracy 0

pgardn
01-24-2020, 10:02 AM
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1220494487375491073?s=19


So we can expect red team WILL NOT be going through a multitude of historical examples of why the perfect phone call was in fact probably one of the most egregious assaults on efforts to create coequal branches of government by controlling the power of the president.

Impeachment was tailor made for this perfect phone call.
The evidence behind the call shows the “in your face” power play.

Honest to god it seems like he wanted to be impeached and acquitted to gain more executive power.
The 2020 election results will now be doubted which ever way they go if it is close. Fully 1/3 of the country still does not believe the Russians interfered in our elections.

Putin must have a huge smile going. This could not have worked out better; Relying on social media retardedness of a democracy, pretty heady stuff. If we had tight government control over opinions we would not have to worry about the ignorance inherent in free speech as well as the disinformation that comes with it.

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 10:09 AM
Fox & Friends host desperately tries to cut off Rudy Giuliani as he spins more Ukraine conspiracies

Rudy Giuliani breathlessly uncorked new conspiracy theories about Joe Biden’s activity in Ukraine, as nervous “Fox & Friends” hosts tried to cut him off.

President Donald Trump’s personal attorney appeared Friday morning on Fox News, where he expanded on the conspiracies that form the heart of the impeachment case against the president.

“All of a sudden Biden has announced the most important guy in Ukraine,

he is going to give out the money, then he hires Biden’s son,” Giuliani said.

“Do you know what happened in between? He made a deal with Biden, you be on board against (former president Petro) Poroshenko taking my company, when they move to take the company.

That’s when Biden came in and had the prosecutor fired, and within four months the crooked oligarch sitting with $5 billion comes back to the Ukraine, he is not prosecuted.

“Then we have got another bribe,” he said.

“You don’t think the president of the Ukraine shared in that $5 billion that the crook kept?”

“The bribe to the president of the Ukraine, the amount of money I can’t be absolutely sure of,” Giuliani said, stumbling enough to allow Doocy to finally cut in. “Let’s say well in excess of $10 million.”

I prosecuted too many corruption cases to sit by and watch my country sold out by a vice president who did it two other times, at least, in China.”

asked when Giuliani would provide proof of his claims.

“Today at noon I will give an introduction,” he said.

“Starting next week I will present witnesses, I have them all on tape.

We will reveal one at a time, we will show there were two bribes.

Not one, actually three.” :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rudy-giuliani-spins-wild-ukraine-conspiracies-as-fox-friends-hosts-desperately-try-to-cut-him-off/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3569&recip_id=298460&list_id=1 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rudy-giuliani-spins-wild-ukraine-conspiracies-as-fox-friends-hosts-desperately-try-to-cut-him-off/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3569&recip_id=298460&list_id=1)

America's Ma.....niac

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 10:30 AM
Dem leader calls McConnell’s bluff on Hunter Biden:

‘They have 53 votes’ but are afraid to call him


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/dem-leader-calls-mcconnells-bluff-on-hunter-biden-they-have-53-votes-but-are-afraid-to-call-him/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3569

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 11:16 AM
TRUMP DEFENSE TEAM SCRAMBLING TO FIND EXAMPLE OF LAW TRUMP DID NOT BREAK

WASHINGTON —Desperately trying to change the narrative after a week of damaging presentations,

Donald J. Trump’s (https://www.newyorker.com/tag/donald-trump) defense team is scrambling to find an example of one law that Trump did not break, sources confirmed on Friday.

In concert with two of Jeffrey Epstein’s most prominent defenders, Alan Dershowitz and Kenneth Starr, Trump’s personal attorney Jay Sekulow has been

scouring federal, state, and municipal law books in the hopes of finding one statute that Trump, for whatever reason, did not violate.
“So far, no luck,” a source close to the defense team said.

If the attorneys do manage to find a law that Trump did not break,

that information will be “locked down” in a secure server to which Trump himself will not have access.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-defense-team-scrambling-to-find-example-of-law-trump-did-not-break (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-defense-team-scrambling-to-find-example-of-law-trump-did-not-break)

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 11:36 AM
‘Take her out!’

Leaked audio purportedly catches Trump demanding firing of Marie Yovanovitch

An audio recording that has been reviewed by ABC News purportedly catches President Donald Trump demanding the firing of former American ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.

ABC News reports that

the recording was made by Igor Fruman,

the now-indicted henchman of Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who captured the president’s voice during a private dinner where he also met with Fruman’s co-conspirator, Lev Parnas.

Trump’s tirade against Yovanovitch came after both

Fruman and Parnas had informed the president that the ambassador was known to say nasty things about it,

which prompted Trump to demand her dismissal.

“Get rid of her!” a voice that is apparently Trump’s says in the recording.
“Get her out tomorrow.
I don’t care.
Get her out tomorrow.
Take her out.
Okay? Do it.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/take-her-out-leaked-audio-purportedly-catches-trump-demanding-firing-of-marie-yovanovitch/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/take-her-out-leaked-audio-purportedly-catches-trump-demanding-firing-of-marie-yovanovitch/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 11:55 AM
Really no surprise here. After Trash is acquitted, his grifting, corruption, cheating plus all the efforts of the Repugs/oligarchy will go towards stealing the 2020 election, with huge enabling, assists from the corrupt fucking CATHOLIC SCOTUS

Republicans aren’t serving the country, or even the president. Just themselves.

Watching Republican senators complain that there is “nothing new” in the case made by House impeachment managers,

while they are actively opposing the introduction of new evidence and new testimony, is confirmation of

barefaced bad faith.

elected Republicans are mainly serving, not the president, and certainly not the republic, but themselves.

This crime against democracy is compounded by the eagerness of Republicans to use impeachment as a fundraising opportunity (https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/790077812/republicans-raise-funds-on-impeachment) and method to energize base voters.

The theory seems to be: If you are going to betray the constitutional order, you might as well profit from it.

Despite compelling evidence of wrongdoing and obstruction of justice in the Mueller report (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1982129735/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=slatmaga-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=1982129735&linkId=57eac5f8d658a84aa7bf9a2a932db200),

Trump largely escaped accountability :lol Thanks, Nancy!

Give Trump an inch, and he’ll take Ukraine.

How has the president largely avoided the consequences of his corruption?

By employing the methods of his mentor Roy Cohn (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-roy-cohn-relationship).

Admit nothing.
Stonewall investigators.
Defy subpoenas.
Viciously attack opponents.
Flood the zone with exculpatory lies.
Feel no shame.
Show no mercy.
Claim anything short of prison to be complete exoneration.

the coverup is working.

Senate Republicans seem determined to cover up for Trump’s coverup.

The president is protected by layer upon layer of obfuscation, misdirection and deception.

the norms of truthfulness, public service and ethical behavior have given way.

the message has been sent to Trump and future iterations of Trump: Corruption has no consequence.

a danger to the country because success breeds replication.

Trump avoided accountability after the Mueller probe.

He is likely to avoid accountability for the Ukraine squeeze.

That leaves one last source of accountability — the election in November.

This will be a test, not of the Republican Party, but of the republic.

Will corruption, cruelty and coverups be excused and encouraged?

Or will the boundaries of integrity, honesty and public spirit be redrawn?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/republicans-arent-serving-the-country-or-even-the-president-just-themselves/2020/01/23/6d820a78-3e0e-11ea-baca-eb7ace0a3455_story.html

Mission Accomplished, the "boundaries of integrity, honesty and public spirit be redrawn" have been obliterated, America is fucked and unfuckable.

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 01:12 PM
John Roberts comes face to face with the mess he made

He is forced to witness, with his own eyes, the mess he and his colleagues on the Supreme Court have made of the U.S. political system.

As representatives of all three branches of government attend this unhappy family reunion,

the living consequences of the Roberts Court’s decisions, and

their corrosive effect on democracy, are plain to see.

the Supreme Court released its Citizens United decision (https://www.oyez.org/cases/2008/08-205),

plunging the country into the era of super PACs (https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/citizens-united-explained) and

unlimited, unregulated, secret campaign money from billionaires and foreign interests.

Citizens United, and the resulting rise of the super PAC, led directly to this impeachment.

The court’s 2013 ruling (https://www.oyez.org/cases/2012/12-96) in Shelby County gutted the Voting Rights Act (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/how-shelby-county-broke-america/564707/) and spurred a new wave of voter suppression.

The decision (https://www.oyez.org/cases/2013/12-536) in 2014′sMcCutcheon further surrendered (https://publicintegrity.org/politics/the-mccutcheon-decision-explained-more-money-to-pour-into-political-process/) campaign finance to the wealthiest.

The 2018 Janus decision (https://www.oyez.org/cases/2017/16-1466) hobbled the ability of labor unions (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/supreme-court-unions-organized-labor.html) to counter wealthy donors, while

the 2019 Rucho ruling (https://www.oyez.org/cases/2018/18-422) blessed partisan gerrymandering (https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/rucho-v-common-cause-2/), expanding anti-democratic tendencies.

The consequences?

Falling confidence in government, (https://news.gallup.com/poll/246371/americans-trust-government-handle-problems-new-low.aspx) and

a growing perception that Washington had become a “swamp” corrupted (https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/campaign-wire-2018-midterms/card/1537810213)by political money, fueled Trump’s victory.

The Republican Party, weakened by the new dominance of outside money, couldn’t stop Trump’s hostile takeover of the party or

the takeover of the congressional GOP ranks by far-right candidates.

The new dominance of ideologically extreme outside groups and donors led lawmakers on

both sides :lol

to give their patrons what they wanted: conflict over collaboration and purity at the cost of paralysis.

The various decisions also suppress the influence of poorer and non-white Americans and

extend the electoral power of Republicans in disproportion to the popular vote.

its rulings have worsened the pathologies — uncompromising views, mindless partisanship and vitriol — visible in this impeachment trial.

On the day the impeachment trial opened, the Roberts Court rejected a plea by Democrats (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/21/supreme-court-wont-review-obamacare-lawsuit-before-the-election-101356) to expedite its consideration of the latest legal attempt by Republicans to kill Obamacare.

The court sided with Republicans who opposed an immediate Supreme Court review because the GOP feared the ruling could hurt it if the decision came before the 2020 election.

John Paul Stevens, in his Citizens United dissent (https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-205.ZX.html), wrote:

“Americans may be forgiven if they do not feel the Court has advanced the cause of self-government today.”

the new campaign finance system would be “incapable of dealing with the grave problems of democratic legitimacy (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/12-536_e1pf.pdf).”

Now, we are in a crisis of democratic legitimacy:

A president who has plainly abused his office and broken the law,

a legislature too paralyzed to do anything about it — and

a chief justice coming face to face with the system he broke.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/23/john-roberts-comes-face-face-with-mess-he-made/

Winehole23
01-24-2020, 02:04 PM
‘Take her out!’

Leaked audio purportedly catches Trump demanding firing of Marie Yovanovitch

An audio recording that has been reviewed by ABC News purportedly catches President Donald Trump demanding the firing of former American ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.

ABC News reports that

the recording was made by Igor Fruman,

the now-indicted henchman of Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who captured the president’s voice during a private dinner where he also met with Fruman’s co-conspirator, Lev Parnas.

Trump’s tirade against Yovanovitch came after both

Fruman and Parnas had informed the president that the ambassador was known to say nasty things about it,

which prompted Trump to demand her dismissal.

“Get rid of her!” a voice that is apparently Trump’s says in the recording.
“Get her out tomorrow.
I don’t care.
Get her out tomorrow.
Take her out.
Okay? Do it.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/take-her-out-leaked-audio-purportedly-catches-trump-demanding-firing-of-marie-yovanovitch/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/take-her-out-leaked-audio-purportedly-catches-trump-demanding-firing-of-marie-yovanovitch/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)


I don't get it, Trump is asking Parnas and Fruman to fire the Ambassador?

How would that work?

Spurs Homer
01-24-2020, 02:21 PM
I don't get it, Trump is asking Parnas and Fruman to fire the Ambassador?

How would that work?

parnas sez trump gave that same order 4-5 times

ppl around trump

discarded his insanity and just pretended to listen

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 02:33 PM
I don't get it, Trump is asking Parnas and Fruman to fire the Ambassador?

How would that work?

We don't know who all was at the dinner with Don Trashyoney, with capos Fruman, Parnas, but capo Julie Annie was probably there and we know he was pushing the EU ambassador.

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 02:34 PM
"internet" is saying "Senators heads on pikes" is jury tampering.

But the Repugs are already scared shitless of Trash's cult mob, including TSA's violent right wing commandos

Reck
01-24-2020, 02:44 PM
Which five? The only two I can think of that are likely to lose in 2020 are Gardner and Collins. Of which one will be offset by Doug Jones' sure thing loss. Not sure how you're expecting the senate to be easy to flip.

McSally, Joni Ernst and I thought Tom Tillis is very vulnerable in NC.

But you’re right, doing a double take, it’s more like 3 likely flips instead of the 5 I was thinking of.

Chris
01-24-2020, 04:34 PM
So we can expect red team WILL NOT be going through a multitude of historical examples of why the perfect phone call was in fact probably one of the most egregious assaults on efforts to create coequal branches of government by controlling the power of the president.

Impeachment was tailor made for this perfect phone call.
The evidence behind the call shows the “in your face” power play.

Honest to god it seems like he wanted to be impeached and acquitted to gain more executive power.
The 2020 election results will now be doubted which ever way they go if it is close. Fully 1/3 of the country still does not believe the Russians interfered in our elections.

Putin must have a huge smile going. This could not have worked out better; Relying on social media retardedness of a democracy, pretty heady stuff. If we had tight government control over opinions we would not have to worry about the ignorance inherent in free speech as well as the disinformation that comes with it.

wall of blah with a Russiagate bow

Nbadan
01-24-2020, 04:52 PM
The Republicans are gonna let Trump subvert the rule of law.....that's how constitutional republics end...

spurraider21
01-24-2020, 05:12 PM
The Republicans are gonna let Trump subvert the rule of law.....that's how constitutional republics end...
https://media1.giphy.com/media/13L53FdeOWIfbq/giphy.gif

baseline bum
01-24-2020, 05:20 PM
McSally, Joni Ernst and I thought Tom Tillis is very vulnerable in NC.

But you’re right, doing a double take, it’s more like 3 likely flips instead of the 5 I was thinking of.

It wasn't like Sinema dominated McSally, she just barely took that race. Though it's certainly a winnable seat.

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 05:23 PM
...

Reck
01-24-2020, 05:25 PM
It wasn't like Sinema dominated McSally, she just barely took that race. Though it's certainly a winnable seat.

It was a fairly sizeable win. over 50% and 50k vote edge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Arizona_elections

Thank you Republicans for running her again.

baseline bum
01-24-2020, 05:45 PM
It was a fairly sizeable win. over 50% and 50k vote edge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Arizona_elections

Thank you Republicans for running her again.

Damn I didn't realize she had 2.4 points on McSally. A little bigger than Clinton's margin over Trump. I thought it was like 0.6 points or something. I guess it was when I quit paying attention to the results.

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 06:22 PM
Former House lawyer explains new recording from Trump would add another ‘abuse of power’ to impeachment

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Marie-Yovanovitch-Donald-Trump.jpg

“I think it would be another important branch and sequel to the abuse of power allegation if the president used the office,

used his own authority to direct that a U.S. ambassador be either removed from that position

because she was standing in the way of his political agenda —

but it seems like, from the recording, possibly even that physical harm or threats to her should ensue,” said Bash.

Yovanovitch recalled during her testimony that

a State Department official told her that there were “threats to her security,”

and she had to “get on the next plane to Washington.”

Yovanovitch then asked where the threats were coming from and

the woman said “up the street,” meaning the White House (https://apnews.com/2f420045618b4106b6fa7419a3d75b8e).

Wallace noted that 70 percent of the American public wants to hear witnesses testify,

but Republicans are still refusing to allow it.

And after so much stonewalling on witnesses and documents,

she said that the obstruction case proves itself.

“I believed that I needed Yovanovitch out of the way,” Giuliani told The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/23/the-ukrainian-prosecutor-behind-trumps-impeachment).

“She was going to make the investigations difficult for everybody.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/former-house-lawyer-explains-new-recording-from-trump-would-add-another-abuse-of-power-to-impeachment/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/former-house-lawyer-explains-new-recording-from-trump-would-add-another-abuse-of-power-to-impeachment/)

Repugs bitching bitching about "nothing new" from the Dem managers, while OBSTRUCTING anything new to be admitted.

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 06:26 PM
Trump displays ‘serious signs’ of cognitive deterioration as his impeachment trial ramps up

Trump’s comments about Thomas Edison sparked concerns about his mental health

among attorneys,

former government officials and

a Yale University psychiatrist.

Maya Wiley, a former attorney for the ACLU and NAACP, ... found Trump “both sad and disturbing.”

“To speak about Thomas Edison as if he is still alive is simply something that is scary,” Wiley aid.

Former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance agreed that “everything about this is extremely disturbing.”

he constantly engages in conduct that calls into question his fitness, if not his mental and physical condition,”

is a pressing concern that Congress needs to take seriously,

because the Cabinet, which would have some authority under the 25th Amendment to do something about it, apparently doesn’t.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-displays-serious-signs-of-cognitive-deterioration-as-his-impeachment-trial-ramps-up/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-displays-serious-signs-of-cognitive-deterioration-as-his-impeachment-trial-ramps-up/)

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 06:33 PM
Trump’s circle ‘waking up’ to the fact that impeachment is putting him in danger

Trump’s defense team is “woefully unprepared” to defend him against the Democrats’ impeachment efforts against him,

“the dynamics of the Senate trial are clearly shifting in directions that are dangerous for the president,”

“Trump’s circle is waking up to the notion that impeachment is a serious drag on his campaign.”

One of those people suggesting that Trump move his rhetoric to the middle is his son-in-law and top adviser

Jared Kushner — who has reportedly been on the receiving end of Trump’s ire lately.

Trump is unhappy with Kushner’s recent Time cover story, which showed Kushner posing solemnly inside the magazine’s iconic red border,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-circle-waking-up-to-the-fact-that-impeachment-is-putting-him-in-danger-report/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-circle-waking-up-to-the-fact-that-impeachment-is-putting-him-in-danger-report/)


================

Jared Kushner’s New Time Magazine Cover Is Now A Brutal Meme

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOcY6CXX0AApAWv.jpg

Rob Joyce@RobJoyce156
(https://twitter.com/RobJoyce156)Jared Kushner’s TIME cover is what happens when you’re asked to customise your video game avatar and just select ‘default settings’ instead.
============

is JK slenderman?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOcY6CVXsAUZnp3.jpg

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-time-magazine-cover-meme_n_5e217d94c5b6321176118cf3 (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-time-magazine-cover-meme_n_5e217d94c5b6321176118cf3)

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 06:34 PM
https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/JMuV0vn43_C6tvAWU2-oo89oBGq9q8kaFtjYZnn5IuoRxkcD1oX5Rb-sO9Ly9mvc6Al453qXsUIFB3m3a-esxoQ-VXHJfn_cnqjmHp4xxO4rPx15xnLYpFBjJr6pZNw_PtIjwKbIqt 8tS1-EQBlaliM=s0-d-e1-ft#https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5e2b135dbb30b40008043a28/master/w_1120%2Cc_limit/A23813.jpg

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 08:05 PM
deeply holy and under-pressure Christian Pompeo ain't gettin no help from Christ. Needs More Prayer

Pompeo heads to Ukraine after saying

‘Americans don’t fucking care about’ them

— and the web won’t let him forget

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/pompeo-heads-to-ukraine-after-saying-americans-dont-expletive-care-about-them-and-the-web-wont-let-him-forget/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/pompeo-heads-to-ukraine-after-saying-americans-dont-expletive-care-about-them-and-the-web-wont-let-him-forget/)

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 08:45 PM
Pompeo Roundly Criticized for Shouting at NPR Host Over Ukraine Questions:

‘This Is Nuts’

After that interview,

Kelly says Pompeo shouted at her (https://www.mediaite.com/news/npr-host-says-pompeo-erupted-dropped-f-bombs-over-her-ukraine-questions-he-asked-if-i-could-find-it-on-a-map/),

dropped the F-bomb multiple times, and

even asked her if she could find Ukraine on a map (she did).

https://www.mediaite.com/news/pompeo-roundly-criticized-for-shouting-at-npr-host-over-ukraine-questions-this-is-nuts/

Trash and his mafiya cracking up under the pressure.

pgardn
01-24-2020, 09:00 PM
https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/JMuV0vn43_C6tvAWU2-oo89oBGq9q8kaFtjYZnn5IuoRxkcD1oX5Rb-sO9Ly9mvc6Al453qXsUIFB3m3a-esxoQ-VXHJfn_cnqjmHp4xxO4rPx15xnLYpFBjJr6pZNw_PtIjwKbIqt 8tS1-EQBlaliM=s0-d-e1-ft#https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5e2b135dbb30b40008043a28/master/w_1120%2Cc_limit/A23813.jpg

Works for Christian Chris.

pgardn
01-24-2020, 09:02 PM
Schiff is by far the superior communicator on the blue side.
Dont let anyone else speak.

TSA
01-24-2020, 09:08 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1220876234982395904

and Jeopardy got better ratings :lol

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 09:09 PM
Schiff is by far the superior communicator on the blue side.
Dont let anyone else speak.

I caught Hakeem a couple times, he's good

pgardn
01-24-2020, 09:14 PM
I caught Hakeem a couple times, he's good

Yeah he’s good.

Relief pitcher.

DarrinS
01-24-2020, 09:38 PM
1220811088649953280

ChumpDumper
01-24-2020, 10:05 PM
1220811088649953280Jackson bad now?

boutons_deux
01-24-2020, 10:07 PM
Jackson bad now?

yep, Trash has his pic in the WH, and Bannon is a huge fan. Oppressing the "red man" is what Trash/Bannon like

Reck
01-24-2020, 10:08 PM
So apparently Murkowski was super duper upset Schiff used a line from what's been reported on the news about trump telling them if they vote against him he'd had their heads on a pike. That was the decider for her. :lol

DarrinS
01-24-2020, 10:53 PM
America be like -> :sleep

Reck
01-24-2020, 11:12 PM
America be like -> :sleep

Says the guy living an in echo chamber.

DarrinS
01-24-2020, 11:15 PM
America be like -> :sleep

Dems be like



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwQW3KW3DCc

DMX7
01-24-2020, 11:58 PM
Trump displays ‘serious signs’ of cognitive deterioration as his impeachment trial ramps up

Trump’s comments about Thomas Edison sparked concerns about his mental health

among attorneys,

former government officials and

a Yale University psychiatrist.

Maya Wiley, a former attorney for the ACLU and NAACP, ... found Trump “both sad and disturbing.”

“To speak about Thomas Edison as if he is still alive is simply something that is scary,” Wiley aid.

Former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance agreed that “everything about this is extremely disturbing.”

he constantly engages in conduct that calls into question his fitness, if not his mental and physical condition,”

is a pressing concern that Congress needs to take seriously,

because the Cabinet, which would have some authority under the 25th Amendment to do something about it, apparently doesn’t.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-displays-serious-signs-of-cognitive-deterioration-as-his-impeachment-trial-ramps-up/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-displays-serious-signs-of-cognitive-deterioration-as-his-impeachment-trial-ramps-up/)

“He likes rockets, and he does good at rockets too, by the way,” Trump said of Musk.

ChumpDumper
01-25-2020, 12:18 AM
America be like -> :sleep:lol Darrin the Trumptard

Dear Leader must be protected at all times.

DMX7
01-25-2020, 01:29 AM
America be like -> :sleep

Ahhh yes, this looks familiar — it’s the “please don’t look at the facts” defense.

ElNono
01-25-2020, 01:40 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/TCPigott/status/1220876234982395904

and Jeopardy got better ratings :lol

Glad they're doing the right thing despite focus groups or what's popular today. That's something Axelrod will never understand.

TheGreatYacht
01-25-2020, 02:00 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1220914119240491009

boutons_deux
01-25-2020, 06:57 AM
Schiff has to appeal the Myth of America as The Shining Light on Hill when it's just another thug country, embracing thug countries, America known around the planet as greatest threat to world peace

Repugs are the undeniable proof that anybody who believes America is an exceptional country is a fool,

probably "believing" that the myth that he himself is thereby an exceptional person.

Spurs Homer
01-25-2020, 08:07 AM
Schiff has to appeal the Myth of America as The Shining Light on Hill when it's just another thug country, embracing thug countries, America known around the planet as greatest threat to world peace

Repugs are the undeniable proof that anybody who believes America is an exceptional country is a fool,

probably "believing" that the myth that he himself is thereby an exceptional person.

I agree that the USA has declined and we are no better than many thug actors...

I do not believe that Schiff was pretending to be naive or that an intelligent person like him believes we are all butterflies and rainbows and sunlight streams emanate from the assholes of all american patriots-


but I do believe he was trying to hang on to the IDEA of what America used to stand for- and sadly- he was trying to prop up the old girl again and was sounding the alarm that - although we are going to shit and the repukes are complicit in Trump destroying it from within-


he was pleading with them because- ironically - those Republican weasels are the tiny weak thread that is holding our fate from - possibly rising back to greatness- and self destruction from within.


Yes, we are fucked.

I do think all of Schiffs speeches were absolutely spectacular - regardless of anyone’s opinion of Schiff


For a moment- a tiny bit of cynicism was erased and being reminded of the IDEA of what this country USED TO BE-

was inspiring....


until you realize that Russia has planted a nuke inside our oval office and complicit American traitors- support this nuclear orange shit-bomb.

Winehole23
01-25-2020, 10:00 AM
GOP is gonna scream bloody tyranny from the rooftops when a Dem POTUS commands the executive branch to defy Congressional subpoenas -- and they'll be right.

pgardn
01-25-2020, 10:18 AM
So apparently Murkowski was super duper upset Schiff used a line from what's been reported on the news about trump telling them if they vote against him he'd had their heads on a pike. That was the decider for her. :lol

This is more about putting the red team on the stand since we already know the outcome.
From that perspective, job has been well done.

Im looking forward to the red team putting Trump campaign tactics into law.
And, if the election is close, with the Russians more than ready to interfere BLATANTLY WITH OUR knowledge, the backlash should be interesting.

pgardn
01-25-2020, 10:21 AM
It’s pretty clear the leader of the Senate does not mind the interference as long as it’s red team’s advantage.

boutons_deux
01-25-2020, 10:24 AM
GOP is gonna scream bloody tyranny from the rooftops when a Dem POTUS commands the executive branch to defy Congressional subpoenas -- and they'll be right.

" Attorney General (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney_General_of_the_United_States) Eric Holder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Holder) became the first sitting member of the Cabinet of the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_the_United_States) to be held in contempt of Congress (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress) on June 28, 2012, in a vote largely along party lines in a Republican-controlled House."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

If Pelosi were as hardass as the Repugs, she would have held Barr in contempt, or Sense of the House, for his totally dishonest "exonerating" 4-pager on Mueller report.

Dems should produce more A of I combining Trash's obstruction of Mueller and Ukraine info and people.

pgardn
01-25-2020, 10:24 AM
I agree that the USA has declined and we are no better than many thug actors...

I do not believe that Schiff was pretending to be naive or that an intelligent person like him believes we are all butterflies and rainbows and sunlight streams emanate from the assholes of all american patriots-


but I do believe he was trying to hang on to the IDEA of what America used to stand for- and sadly- he was trying to prop up the old girl again and was sounding the alarm that - although we are going to shit and the repukes are complicit in Trump destroying it from within-


he was pleading with them because- ironically - those Republican weasels are the tiny weak thread that is holding our fate from - possibly rising back to greatness- and self destruction from within.


Yes, we are fucked.

I do think all of Schiffs speeches were absolutely spectacular - regardless of anyone’s opinion of Schiff


For a moment- a tiny bit of cynicism was erased and being reminded of the IDEA of what this country USED TO BE-

was inspiring....


until you realize that Russia has planted a nuke inside our oval office and complicit American traitors- support this nuclear orange shit-bomb.

We owned other human beings, it’s pretty clear we did not follow the liberty part for individuals.
But the constitution allows us to ponder the hypocrisy and do something about it.
Like maybe vote, which many have given up on.
The House went blue, elections have consequences.

Winehole23
01-25-2020, 10:45 AM
Pompeo melting down fully over a pesky interviewer.



https://twitter.com/cjf39/status/1221092305005948928?s=19

Chris
01-25-2020, 12:30 PM
Learn to embed boomer.

TSA
01-25-2020, 12:34 PM
GOP is gonna scream bloody tyranny from the rooftops when a Dem POTUS commands the executive branch to defy Congressional subpoenas -- and they'll be right.

lol Fast and Furious

TSA
01-25-2020, 12:34 PM
3 days of testimony by the House destroyed in mere hours

DMC
01-25-2020, 12:35 PM
Pompeo melting down fully over a pesky interviewer.



https://twitter.com/cjf39/status/1221092305005948928?s=19

Everything one side says is "fully melting down" to the other side.

The partisanship and reaching is off the charts.

DarrinS
01-25-2020, 12:38 PM
3 days of testimony by the House destroyed in mere hours

RIP Adam Schiff

:lmao

ducks
01-25-2020, 01:14 PM
MSNBC's Ari Melber says Dems didn't 'provide enough evidence' to prove Trump obstructed Congress

vy65
01-25-2020, 01:20 PM
3 days of testimony by the House destroyed in mere hours

Howso?

boutons_deux
01-25-2020, 01:41 PM
Dem's prosecution is alive and well, for serious people, not for Repug Senators, not for ST assholes who support Trash even if he shot somebody dead

RandomGuy
01-25-2020, 01:57 PM
Pompeo melting down fully over a pesky interviewer.



https://twitter.com/cjf39/status/1221092305005948928?s=19

Saw that. Jeez what a baby. "conservatives" don't do well outside their information bubble networks. "how dare they ask me tough questions!!!"

If there is any clue as to the kind of venal people that seem to fall into the Trump orbit, that it, IMO.

RandomGuy
01-25-2020, 01:57 PM
Everything one side says is "fully melting down" to the other side.

The partisanship and reaching is off the charts.

You didn't actually read the link then. Lazy, per par.

After the interview Pompeo fully melted down into a screaming, cursing fit.

Funniest part is that you accuse WH of hyperbole, who is vastly more measured in such things than most people here. More lazy thinking on your part.

DarrinS
01-25-2020, 02:06 PM
This is CNN

1221131311181713409

Winehole23
01-25-2020, 02:09 PM
Secretary of State couldn't answer forseeable questions about an announced topic without requesting a private meeting immediately afterwards to curse and scream at the reporter because he couldn't answer her questions without resorting to embarrassing lies.

This is our top diplomat.

RandomGuy
01-25-2020, 02:14 PM
Learn to embed boomer.

Twitter Qhris finds something easy. :rollin

All anyone has to do to learn the code is read a few of your posts. You couldn't go more than two or three in a row without barfing up a whackadoodle twitter feed.

boutons_deux
01-25-2020, 02:57 PM
Secretary of State couldn't answer forseeable questions about an announced topic without requesting a private meeting immediately afterwards to curse and scream at the reporter because he couldn't answer her questions without resorting to embarrassing lies.

This is our top diplomat.

but he's a devout, committed End Timer Christian Supremacist afraid to dine alone with woman without his wife present.

Emotionally, intellectually stunted, typical symptoms of religious extremism

Reck
01-25-2020, 02:59 PM
This is CNN

1221131311181713409

But I thought the impression was that Trumps team destroyed the dems case in under 3 hours. What happened to that? Did you mistakenly stepped out of your bubble and into the real world or something?

Spurtacular
01-25-2020, 03:29 PM
This is CNN

1221131311181713409

:lol Four white cuckolds crying their eyes out
:lol Blake's people.

koriwhat
01-25-2020, 03:36 PM
the funniest thing about this faux impeachment bullshit is the fact that the left wants the right to do the leg work they decided not to do in the house. fuck them all! to hell with that whole sham of a party!

boutons_deux
01-25-2020, 03:49 PM
Walter Shaub
(https://twitter.com/waltshaub)✔@waltshaub
(https://twitter.com/waltshaub)
(https://twitter.com/waltshaub)Cipollone just claimed that impeaching a president is election interference.

This is the central theme of the Trump presidency:

There are no limits on the president.


He is your king.

9:22 AM - Jan 25, 2020 (https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1221090947506888704)

ElNono
01-25-2020, 03:58 PM
lol Fast and Furious

Exactly

boutons_deux
01-25-2020, 04:00 PM
Trump’s defense counsel attempt to cast doubt on facts of impeachment case


In their opening arguments, inadvertently helped Democrats make the case for witnesses.

counsel for President Donald Trump

accused House Democrats of obscuring facts while distorting the impeachment process.

Inadvertently, too, they presented an argument about past testimony that actually made Democrats’ rationale for calling more witnesses even
stronger. (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/21/21055236/senate-impeachment-trial-rules-mcconnell)

focusing primarily on two threads.

they argued Democrats’ impeachment inquiry had nothing to do with concerns of the president’s wrongdoing, but

was aimed at overturning the results of the 2016 election — or, failing that, impeding Trump’s 2020 campaign.

Additionally

House impeachment managers who argued for Trump’s removal

maliciously left out facts that prove the president did not condition military aid to Ukraine on the the announcement of investigations into his political rivals.

Instead, they said that his decision to withhold aid was driven by worries about burden sharing with other nations and corruption. :lol

“They’ve basically said let’s cancel an election over a meeting with Ukraine,”

https://www.vox.com/2020/1/25/21081412/trump-defense-impeachment-trial-jay-sekulow-pat-cipollone

"cancel the 2016 election" is beautiful bullshit fed to Trash's cult mob (who will take it personally) who elected him, and intend to fuck up the country more (and themselves) by re-electing Trash

koriwhat
01-25-2020, 04:08 PM
Dem's prosecution is alive and well, for serious people, not for Repug Senators, not for ST assholes who support Trash even if he shot somebody dead

:cry

them tears are delicious; keep 'em coming! :tu

pgardn
01-25-2020, 04:24 PM
This is CNN

1221131311181713409

Why would you watch them or FOX for analysis?

Winehole23
01-25-2020, 04:25 PM
lol Fast and FuriousImpeachable then, impeachable now.

Winehole23
01-25-2020, 04:26 PM
Learn to embed boomer.Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.

Lol zoomer too lazy to follow the link.

pgardn
01-25-2020, 04:28 PM
lol Fast and Furious

You know about it in detail because Holder was forced to give it up.
Now we got an orange guy who is allegedly defending his innocent self by not letting documents or his own fckn people who know what went on speak for themselves?

Yeah.

That makes sense.

If orange guy is a big fat golfing liar.

pgardn
01-25-2020, 04:32 PM
Red team says he did nothing wrong.
Explain the call.
If the president does have these powers to aid in his re election explain why, and explain how this will change campaigns by incumbent presidents.

Do it.

Spurs Homer
01-25-2020, 04:35 PM
Impeachable then, impeachable now.

Obama asserted exec privilege- then provided justification to the courts - bullshit or not Nd yes - maybe even impeachable-

trump just said- “im a king- i dont even need to assert the privilege- explain my reasons - or assert my case to any court- i am a fucking king - fuck all your requests.”

absolutely impeachable and absolutely should be removed

RandomGuy
01-25-2020, 04:38 PM
Falling for a Jerry Springer producer stunt :lmao

(shrugs)

A sworn affidavit is not a "stunt".

Keep making excuses for the child-rapist Epstein pal.

It's ok, we already knew you are a hypocrite.

If you think that a spoiled narcissist with no morals wouldn't get cdrunk/coked up at some Epstein party and rape a thirteen-year old after being offered as much by Epstein, you are vastly more naive than I.
.
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/cd_large/public/views-article/epstein_trump.jpg?itok=PpwMbiiE'

How many times did they party with no photographers present?

Chris
01-25-2020, 04:49 PM
https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1220856723591684096?s=19

desperation mode :lol

RandomGuy
01-25-2020, 05:47 PM
https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1220856723591684096?s=19

desperation mode :lol

I would point out that the statute of limitations will not have run out for the multiple counts of obstruction of justice from the Mueller report, or for the campaign finance violations that Cohen went to prison for.

Remember that "individual 1" named in Cohens guilty plea deal is Trump who is exactly as culpable as Cohen was for the felony.

The chance that Trump will end up in jail after he is done, is a lot larger than you hope it is.

Reck
01-25-2020, 05:49 PM
https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1220856723591684096?s=19

desperation mode :lol

Even if that was true, just look at your hippity happity doing skits and avoiding the actual point he's making.

boutons_deux
01-25-2020, 06:19 PM
So Trash's completely ludicrous defense lawyers say

1. Trash did nothing wrong (according the Repug's corrupt ethics and fantasy interpretation of the Constitution)

2. "do us a favor" was not a condition for Trash, having illegally blocked the funds, to release the funds

silly silly silly, an insult to America.

Reck
01-25-2020, 08:26 PM
1221217599310245889

Retard.

koriwhat
01-25-2020, 08:28 PM
So Trash's completely ludicrous defense lawyers say

1. Trash did nothing wrong (according the Repug's corrupt ethics and fantasy interpretation of the Constitution)

2. "do us a favor" was not a condition for Trash, having illegally blocked the funds, to release the funds

silly silly silly, an insult to America.



you're an idiot who knows nothing but thinks he does. you have no clue whatsoever and you clearly run on your feelings like a girl. how pathetic.

Chris
01-25-2020, 09:03 PM
I would point out that the statute of limitations will not have run out for the multiple counts of obstruction of justice from the Mueller report, or for the campaign finance violations that Cohen went to prison for.

Remember that "individual 1" named in Cohens guilty plea deal is Trump who is exactly as culpable as Cohen was for the felony.

The chance that Trump will end up in jail after he is done, is a lot larger than you hope it is.

Spoiler alert:



Trump isn't going to jail.

Chris
01-25-2020, 09:04 PM
Even if that was true, just look at your hippity happity doing skits and avoiding the actual point he's making.

English please.

Reck
01-25-2020, 09:08 PM
1221217599310245889

Retard.


English please.

koriwhat
01-25-2020, 09:08 PM
Spoiler alert:

Trump isn't going to jail.

he'll be locked up in the white house though for the next 4 yrs & 11 months! :lol

Chris
01-25-2020, 09:12 PM
he'll be locked up in the white house though for the next 4 yrs & 11 months! :lol

lmao

boutons_deux
01-25-2020, 10:53 PM
Parnas dumps the entire recording of Trash

Also, a video released showing Trash talking with Parnas, proving Trash LIED and did/does know Parnas

Repugs LOVE Trash's corruption, it's their very own modus operandi, along with corrupt Attorneys General going back to corrupt Repug tricky Dick Nixon.

Spurs Homer
01-25-2020, 11:44 PM
Parnas dumps the entire recording of Trash

Also, a video released showing Trash talking with Parnas, proving Trash LIED and did/does know Parnas

Repugs LOVE Trash's corruption, it's their very own modus operandi, along with corrupt Attorneys General going back to corrupt Repug tricky Dick Nixon.

trump in video - speaking about Yovanovich: "get rid of her - TAKE HER OUT - do it!"

two guys in ukraine - stalking her/following her movements -

if I was in the FBI - I would absolutely be opening ANOTHER case - on this wannabe mafia boss telling a couple of thugs to "take her out"

and then the ambassador - actually getting a call to "take the next plane home"


he didn't say "fire her"

he said "get rid of her" "take her out"

he also said in that video - "how long would ukraine last against russia" when talking about the aid being withheld -


again


MORE proof of this impeachable scheme -

but repukes will just open wide again and get on their knees and say - "yes dear leader - can I have another"

and swallow another load

DMC
01-26-2020, 12:15 AM
Does anyone here really think Trump is going to be removed from office? If not, do you think the impeachment will affect the election in a way that causes Trump to lose? If not (again), what's the point here, moral victories? Is anyone really trying to say Trump is a corrupt politician and that's really bad? Honestly?

Winehole23
01-26-2020, 12:50 AM
Honestly, yes.

It's a bad thing that POTUS is remorseless grifter.

ChumpDumper
01-26-2020, 01:03 AM
Does anyone here really think Trump is going to be removed from office? If not, do you think the impeachment will affect the election in a way that causes Trump to lose? If not (again), what's the point here, moral victories? Is anyone really trying to say Trump is a corrupt politician and that's really bad? Honestly?I think he's an extraordinarily corrupt politician and that's really bad. Frankly it's sad that people are trying to normalize this.

Chris
01-26-2020, 01:07 AM
:lol

ChumpDumper
01-26-2020, 01:10 AM
:lmao Qhris is praying it becomes normal for Democratic presidents to be just as corrupt.

ElNono
01-26-2020, 01:31 AM
Does anyone here really think Trump is going to be removed from office? If not, do you think the impeachment will affect the election in a way that causes Trump to lose? If not (again), what's the point here, moral victories? Is anyone really trying to say Trump is a corrupt politician and that's really bad? Honestly?

I think it could have an incidence on the election, for better or worse. I don't think it's about moral victories, IMO, it's about a) setting the record straight, and b) doing your job. This whole thing came about from a whistleblower, deemed credible by the OIG. At that point, it's Congress duty to investigate and follow through if it finds evidence that warrant impeachment. If they do not, they're basically in dereliction of duties.

Winehole23
01-26-2020, 01:40 AM
Honestly, yes.

It's a bad thing that POTUS is remorseless grifter.
If POTUS can stonewall Congress past the election, there's no check on the executive. If you can't see that, you're basically egging on fascism.

Reck
01-26-2020, 02:04 AM
:lol

It's getting hard to tell you and Darrin apart. All you faggots do is post smilies.

Spurtacular
01-26-2020, 02:34 AM
It's getting hard to tell you and Darrin apart. All you faggots do is post smilies.

The faggot talk flowing from the tranny club.

lol Wreck

TheGreatYacht
01-26-2020, 05:20 AM
Lev Parnas' Full Video of Trump Telling Associates To "Get Rid Of" Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

https://youtu.be/789CORXvvRA

I haven't been paying attention to the impeachment crap. It's boring and I don't give a fuck about it. But this video popped up on my YouTube feed. If anyone already posted this video then my apologies. Ignore this comment.

Winehole23
01-26-2020, 07:22 AM
:lmao Qhris is praying it becomes normal for Democratic presidents to be just as corrupt.Short-sightedness aeldom see the shoe on the other foot.

When it does, it screams and cries, forgetting that it already forfeit its bona fides by defending it when it wore the iron boot.

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 08:29 AM
it's sad that people are trying to normalize this.

sad is a pretty weak word

The Repugs and the 42% are proving beyond a doubt that they and therefore America is fucked and unfuckable.

For them ethics, morals, laws, the Constitution are all ignored and debased when the Repugs and their 42% want nothing but power, money, hate to divide and rule America.

Trash epitomizes and implements the "baseness" of the cult mob base, while protecting, enriching the oligarchy beyond imagination.

This is how America is ending. An authoritarian, corrupt, degraded shithole, just like the authoritarian, corrupt, degraded shithole countries that Trash befriends and admires.

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 10:35 AM
So much for ‘originalism’ — Trump’s impeachment defense is a constitutional dumpster fire

Donald Trump’s defense against impeachment increasingly relies on arguments that fly directly in the face of the Constitution.

Trump himself set the standard last July with his grandiose claim (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-claim-article-2-right-whatever-want-president) that “Article II says I can do anything I want,” which encountered no serious pushback from his fellow Republicans.

Less blatant absurdities are Trump’s arguments of choice now, as the Senate trial unfolds —

but built on a similar hostility to the constitutional order based on separation of powers and the rule of law.

Whether it’s disputing the House’s “sole Power of Impeachment” (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/20/trump-impeachment-senate-trial/4510958002/) (Article I, Section 2, Clause 5),

the Senate’s “sole Power to try all Impeachments” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/24/latest-gop-excuse-helping-trumps-coverup-is-scam/) (Article I, Section 3, Clause 6) or

the well-settled meaning of “high Crimes and Misdemeanors (https://www.thedailybeast.com/nadler-uses-grahams-1999-definition-of-high-crimes-against-him-at-impeachment-trial)” (Article II, Section 4),

the absurdity of Trump’s constitutional defenses is no less than that of his superficial claim to care about corruption.

hostility toward what the Constitution actually says is diametrically opposed to the pretense of “originalism,”

which is the rallying cry of conservative judicial activism,

and to a large extent the glue that holds today’s GOP together.

Amid all the chaos, it’s easy to miss how profoundly self-contradictory the Republican legal establishment has become.

“the idea that impeachment is about overturning the effects of an election,” which Segall calls ridiculous.


"The idea of impeachment is there has to be some way in between elections of holding the president accountable if he engages in abuses of power or crimes, or

doesn’t execute the laws faithfully.

The idea that the whole concept of impeachment is that it would overturn the election is silly,

and nothing the founding fathers would have recognized as a legitimate argument."


impeaching a president doesn’t overturn an election (it’s not as if Hillary Clinton will become president if Trump is removed)



the original language of the Constitution runs directly counter to contemporary Republican arguments.


the purported “originalist” defense of Trump comes with the reliance on executive privilege, which, as Segall noted on Twitter last week (https://twitter.com/espinsegall/status/1219701982228897793), isn’t mentioned in the Constitution.

Trump, of course, has gone far beyond claims of executive privilege to claims of “absolute immunity,” which no court has ever upheld.


“The court in Nixon said very, very clearly that the general interest in confidentiality is not enough to offset the need for relevant evidence in a criminal case.”
:lol the 1970s court, not the oligarchy whores of 2000s SCOTUS

“What President Trump has been doing for the past few months is completely inconsistent with United States v. Nixon,”

, “I think the more accurate way of putting that is they elected Trump to protect their guns, overturn Roe and protect religious discrimination.”


"I think when Trump campaigned on appointing justices like Scalia, and occasionally used the word “originalist” to do that, that’s just code.


Evangelicals don’t care whether it’s originalism, constitutionalism, whatever.

They just want to

protect their guns,

end abortion and

be able to discriminate against gays and lesbians."

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/so-much-for-originalism-trumps-impeachment-defense-is-a-constitutional-dumpster-fire/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/so-much-for-originalism-trumps-impeachment-defense-is-a-constitutional-dumpster-fire/)

iow, Obama was right, Christians "clinging bitterly (hatefully) to their Bibles and guns"

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 10:46 AM
The latest GOP excuse for helping Trump’s coverup is a scam

the most urgent task for GOP senators is to prevent new witnesses and evidence from shedding fresh light on the most corrupt act at the center of President Trump’s Ukraine scheme:

his freezing of military aid to extort its president into carrying out Trump’s dirty political deeds.

they must come up with some way to justify their eventual vote against new witnesses and documents.

their newest excuse is a total scam

A growing number of Republicans are pointing to President Donald Trump's threat to invoke executive privilege in order to make their case against subpoenas sought by Democrats for key witnesses and documents,

a development that could bolster Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's goal of a swift end to the impeachment trial.

GOP senators are “raising concerns” that a court fight over such subpoenas “will only serve to drag out the proceedings.”

McConnell is warning of an “infinite” delay,

First, let’s marvel at the laughable bad faith here.

If McConnell doesn’t want any “delay,” it’s because he wants a quick trial to minimize the political damage to Trump

Trump has strongly suggested (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/10/trump-john-bolton-testimony-097349) that if the Senate does vote to hear new witnesses and evidence — and then to hear from former national security adviser John Bolton — Trump would exercise executive privilege to block it.

his real motive is that Bolton and Trump privately argued (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/us/politics/impeachment-trump.html) over the frozen military aid — Bolton also called (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/john-bolton-expressed-alarm-about-shadow-ukraine-policy-but-at-key-moments-its-unclear-what-he-did-to-stop-it/2019/11/06/cd29716e-ffe3-11e9-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_19) the whole extortion scheme a “drug deal” — and Trump doesn’t want light shed on that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/24/latest-gop-excuse-helping-trumps-coverup-is-scam/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/24/latest-gop-excuse-helping-trumps-coverup-is-scam/)

The article is longer, and worth the effort to understand the Repug and Trash coverup.

Moscow Bitch's "we must go fast", parallels with Scalia electing dubya in 2001. "We don't have (Constitutional) time to count the votes"

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 10:52 AM
Trump launches wild accusation at Schiff as a ‘sick man’ who must be made to pay for impeachment trial

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-launches-wild-accusation-at-schiff-as-a-sick-man-who-must-be-made-to-pay-for-impeachment-trial/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3578

shitbag Trash is reliably Presidential, and his cult mob 42% adores him for this shitbaggyness

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 11:06 AM
‘Stop lying’:

Experts and observers discredit Trump attorney’s impeachment defense with readily available facts

Purpura (photo) has been making the majority of today’s arguments – they have decided that not enough people will be watching on TV so Saturday’s defense will last not eight but just two hours.

Purpura is not doing a good job – unless his job is to lie to U.S. Senators and the American people.

Gregory Laan@GregoryLaan
(https://twitter.com/GregoryLaan)
FACT CHECK: Trump's Impeachment Lawyer CAUGHT Lying to The US Senate Today. Mike Purpura said: Trump Released The TRANSCRIPT of His July 25th Phone Call with President Zelinsky... FALSE... Trump Has NOT... It's Hidden in a Secret Server in the White House. https://gvan42.blogspot.com/2020/01/fact-check-trumps-impeachment-lawyer.html … (https://t.co/n1C4AsGkBu)

9:46 AM - Jan 25, 2020 (https://twitter.com/GregoryLaan/status/1221097116480655361)

The Moscow Project@moscow_project
(https://twitter.com/moscow_project)
Purpura is once again lying about the public record.
The public record clearly shows that Ukraine did know aid was being withheld as early as late July:


リチャード!@RichardGJP
(https://twitter.com/RichardGJP)
Just to help out my Senator, Purpura is lying about Ukraine not knowing about the hold on the aid until late August, they knew it weeks before that. @senrobportman (https://twitter.com/senrobportman)

(https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1221098282287386624)9:51 AM - Jan 25, 2020 (https://twitter.com/RichardGJP/status/1221098282287386624)


𝔗𝔯𝔞𝔳𝔞𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔯 𝔅𝔲𝔯𝔰𝔢https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/2696.png@TravanderBurse
(https://twitter.com/TravanderBurse)


They did discuss European burden- sharing and the lack of proof it was a part of the cause. patcipollone was lying.

And Mike Purpura, is lying now it was testified UA checked on the same day of the Ukrainian call.

Here's what European embassies had to say

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPI3_66UYAIdchO?format=jpg&name=large


etc, etc, absurdly

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/stop-lying-experts-and-observers-discredit-trump-attorneys-impeachment-defense-with-readily-available-facts/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3578 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/stop-lying-experts-and-observers-discredit-trump-attorneys-impeachment-defense-with-readily-available-facts/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3578)

𝔗𝔯𝔞𝔳𝔞𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔯 𝔅𝔲𝔯𝔰𝔢https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/2696.png@TravanderBurse
(https://twitter.com/TravanderBurse)


They did discuss European burden- sharing and the lack of proof it was a part of the cause. patcipollone was lying. And Mike Purpura, is lying now it was testified UA checked on the same day of the Ukrainian call.
Here's what European embassies had to say

RandomGuy
01-26-2020, 11:22 AM
So much for ‘originalism’ — Trump’s impeachment defense is a constitutional dumpster fire

Donald Trump’s defense against impeachment increasingly relies on arguments that fly directly in the face of the Constitution.

Trump himself set the standard last July with his grandiose claim (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-claim-article-2-right-whatever-want-president) that “Article II says I can do anything I want,” which encountered no serious pushback from his fellow Republicans.

Less blatant absurdities are Trump’s arguments of choice now, as the Senate trial unfolds —

but built on a similar hostility to the constitutional order based on separation of powers and the rule of law.

Whether it’s disputing the House’s “sole Power of Impeachment” (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/20/trump-impeachment-senate-trial/4510958002/) (Article I, Section 2, Clause 5),

the Senate’s “sole Power to try all Impeachments” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/24/latest-gop-excuse-helping-trumps-coverup-is-scam/) (Article I, Section 3, Clause 6) or

the well-settled meaning of “high Crimes and Misdemeanors (https://www.thedailybeast.com/nadler-uses-grahams-1999-definition-of-high-crimes-against-him-at-impeachment-trial)” (Article II, Section 4),

the absurdity of Trump’s constitutional defenses is no less than that of his superficial claim to care about corruption.

hostility toward what the Constitution actually says is diametrically opposed to the pretense of “originalism,”

which is the rallying cry of conservative judicial activism,

and to a large extent the glue that holds today’s GOP together.

Amid all the chaos, it’s easy to miss how profoundly self-contradictory the Republican legal establishment has become.

“the idea that impeachment is about overturning the effects of an election,” which Segall calls ridiculous.


"The idea of impeachment is there has to be some way in between elections of holding the president accountable if he engages in abuses of power or crimes, or

doesn’t execute the laws faithfully.

The idea that the whole concept of impeachment is that it would overturn the election is silly,

and nothing the founding fathers would have recognized as a legitimate argument."


impeaching a president doesn’t overturn an election (it’s not as if Hillary Clinton will become president if Trump is removed)



the original language of the Constitution runs directly counter to contemporary Republican arguments.


the purported “originalist” defense of Trump comes with the reliance on executive privilege, which, as Segall noted on Twitter last week (https://twitter.com/espinsegall/status/1219701982228897793), isn’t mentioned in the Constitution.

Trump, of course, has gone far beyond claims of executive privilege to claims of “absolute immunity,” which no court has ever upheld.


“The court in Nixon said very, very clearly that the general interest in confidentiality is not enough to offset the need for relevant evidence in a criminal case.”
:lol the 1970s court, not the oligarchy whores of 2000s SCOTUS

“What President Trump has been doing for the past few months is completely inconsistent with United States v. Nixon,”

, “I think the more accurate way of putting that is they elected Trump to protect their guns, overturn Roe and protect religious discrimination.”


"I think when Trump campaigned on appointing justices like Scalia, and occasionally used the word “originalist” to do that, that’s just code.


Evangelicals don’t care whether it’s originalism, constitutionalism, whatever.

They just want to

protect their guns,

end abortion and

be able to discriminate against gays and lesbians."

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/so-much-for-originalism-trumps-impeachment-defense-is-a-constitutional-dumpster-fire/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/so-much-for-originalism-trumps-impeachment-defense-is-a-constitutional-dumpster-fire/)

iow, Obama was right, Christians "clinging bitterly (hatefully) to their Bibles and guns"




This.

Hypocrisy is the fuel of modern conservatism.

"it's not bad when we do it". Jeez. Democrats bitched about things Bush did, then defended the same things when Obama did them, but this is a whole other level.

RandomGuy
01-26-2020, 11:36 AM
Spoiler alert:



Trump isn't going to jail.

Book marking this. Thanks.

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 11:37 AM
Let them speak: Most Americans want witnesses in Trump impeachment trial

A bipartisan majority of Americans want to see new witnesses testify

in the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, and the public appears to be largely following the proceedings even after a bruising congressional inquiry that lasted several months,

About 72% agreed that the trial “should allow witnesses with firsthand knowledge of the impeachment charges to testify,”

including 84% of Democrats and

69% of Republicans.

And 70% of the public, including 80% of Democrats and 73% of Republicans, said

senators should “act as impartial jurors” during the trial. :lol

About 40% of Americans said they had a favorable view of Senate Majority Leader Mitch

McConnell, while 60% said they have an unfavorable view of him.

The poll showed that

two out of three Americans are paying attention to the proceedings,

with Democrats more interested than Republicans. :lol

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/let-them-speak-most-americans-want-witnesses-in-trump-impeachment-trial-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1ZL33O (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/let-them-speak-most-americans-want-witnesses-in-trump-impeachment-trial-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1ZL33O)

What citizens want, how they vote, is totally ignored,

except feckless Pelosi NOT impeaching Trash for all his other shit to protect "moderate" Dems who flipped red districts.

Th'Pusher
01-26-2020, 11:39 AM
Does anyone here really think Trump is going to be removed from office? If not, do you think the impeachment will affect the election in a way that causes Trump to lose? If not (again), what's the point here, moral victories? Is anyone really trying to say Trump is a corrupt politician and that's really bad? Honestly?

The point is that It’s the right thing to do.

pgardn
01-26-2020, 11:46 AM
The point is that It’s the right thing to do.

The precedence set for future presidents is very interesting.
They can openly ask for foreign countries and their security agencies to play a role in the election in favor of the incumbent. Any president can now ask for foreign aid in disrupting an election if it starts looking bad for them.

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 12:21 PM
The precedence set for future presidents is very interesting.

not just foreign election help,

but the corrupt Repugs are proving that they approve of ANY kind of corruption,

will cover it up, and

will agree with, permit unConstitutional exec privilege to block any and all investigations of Exec behaviour

BUT

the above applies ONLY with a Repug Exec.

Dem Presidents will be falsely accused, slandered, investigated, obstructed for all kinds of harmless shit.

iow, Trash escaping punishment is ratcheting America deeper down into authoritarianism which is always corrupt.

LkrFan
01-26-2020, 12:48 PM
Threatening a fellow citizen
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1221422761597394944?s=19

《facepalm》

vy65
01-26-2020, 01:34 PM
Does anyone here really think Trump is going to be removed from office? If not, do you think the impeachment will affect the election in a way that causes Trump to lose? If not (again), what's the point here, moral victories? Is anyone really trying to say Trump is a corrupt politician and that's really bad? Honestly?

There has always been a fear that the executive would work to consolidate its power to the detriment of other, co-equal branches of government. That trend has been accelerating over the past 50 years (at least). The point is to do anything and everything from allowing that trend to continue accelerating.

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 01:37 PM
There has always been a fear that the executive would work to consolidate its power to the detriment of other, co-equal branches of government.

"unitary executive", no Congressional oversight, is the official Repug/oligarchy policy, and Bill Barr's career objective.

Chris
01-26-2020, 01:37 PM
Book marking this. Thanks.

You're welcome :tu

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 01:51 PM
"unitary executive", no Congressional oversight, is the official Repug/oligarchy policy, and Bill Barr's career objective.

Trash having so many Senate-approved jobs with "acting" people that require no Senate approval fulfills exactly the unitary executive strategy.

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 01:58 PM
Former U.S. Attorney Says Trump Just Committed a Crime Against Adam Schiff


1221461052426158093



1221462308549021696

(https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance)
It is a federal crime to threaten to assault a federal official

in order to impede their performance of their duties,

so if any Republicans still think impeachment requires a crime,

I’ve got this one for you.

https://lawandcrime.com/politics/former-u-s-attorney-says-trump-just-committed-a-crime-against-adam-schiff/

Winehole23
01-26-2020, 02:17 PM
WHO WILL RID ME OF THIS TURBULENT PRIEST

MultiTroll
01-26-2020, 02:23 PM
Former U.S. Attorney Says Trump Just Committed a Crime Against Adam Schiff
Bouty between your soy burgers could you tell us about Adam Schiff and Ed Buck?

https://www.latimes.com/projects/ed-buck-donations/

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 02:41 PM
fuck red states

CBS’ Brennan Busts Sen. Cotton for Trying to Dismiss Trump Team Criticism as a ‘Democratic Talking Point’: A GOP Leader Said it

Face the Nation, Brennan asked Cotton:

“Do you think it was a misstep for one of the president’s lawyers, Jay Sekulow, to stand on the floor of the Senate and repeat the conspiracy theory that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election?”

“Margaret, that’s not a conspiracy theory,” Cotton replied —

flouting the conclusion of the entire U.S. intelligence community.

Brennan responded by quoting Sen. John Thune (R-ND).

“[He] said he would prefer the lawyers not do that because the intelligence community concluded that it was Russia that meddled,” Brennan said.

“That’s a Democratic talking point,” Cotton said in response.
Brennan swiftly beat back that claim.

“This is what John Thune — one of the Republican leaders — said,” Brennan replied.

"You can also say that it’s clear some Ukrainian officials tried to influence the outcome of the election in 2016.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-brennan-busts-sen-cotton-for-trying-to-dismiss-trump-team-criticism-as-a-democratic-talking-point-a-republican-leader-said-it/ (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-brennan-busts-sen-cotton-for-trying-to-dismiss-trump-team-criticism-as-a-democratic-talking-point-a-republican-leader-said-it/)

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 07:59 PM
Bolton speaks

Says trash would withhold $400M until Ukraine cooperated

Bolton also said he went to Barr about Julie Annie shit. :lol fat chance Barr would do anything, since he was involved in the Ukraine extortion.

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 08:21 PM
...

Spurs Homer
01-26-2020, 09:13 PM
...


Nothing left to do -

except call for Bolton to testify -

once under oath -

he can say he lied to sell books -

or

trump is fucked -

but Republicans will say Bolton is just a coffee boy and no harm/no foul and dear leader is still God.

Winehole23
01-26-2020, 11:08 PM
Bolton speaks

Says trash would withhold $400M until Ukraine cooperated

Bolton also said he went to Barr about shit. :lol fat chance Barr would do anythingThe quick pivot to "there was a quid pro quo but there's nothing wrong with that" might have gotten a little more expensive politically for team Trump, but I doubt this revelation changes the result.

Party line votes to block all witnesses and documents followed by a party line vote to acquit is still the most likely scenario.

boutons_deux
01-26-2020, 11:41 PM
The quick pivot to "there was a quid pro quo but there's nothing wrong with that" might have gotten a little more expensive politically for team Trump, but I doubt this revelation changes the result.

Party line votes to block all witnesses and documents followed by a party line vote to acquit is still the most likely scenario.

and they know there will be no punishment, no accountability.

The $Bs from pay back from the billionaire/BigCorp tax cut scam will keep flowing to their campaigns, and that's all that counts.

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 08:58 AM
Fox News poll delivers devastating news to Trump on impeachment

a clear majority of respondents — beyond the margin of error — believe Donald Trump should be convicted by the U.S. Senate for impeachable crimes and removed from office.

According to the poll,

“On impeachment, by a 50-44 percent margin, voters think the Senate should vote to convict Trump and remove him from office.

Most Democrats say remove (81 percent) and most Republicans disagree (84 percent).

Among independents, more say Trump should be removed by a 19-point margin (53-34 percent).”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/fox-news-poll-delivers-devastating-news-to-trump-on-impeachment/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3581 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/fox-news-poll-delivers-devastating-news-to-trump-on-impeachment/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3581)

So Pelosi was horribly, 180 degrees WRONG that impeachment would help Trash, when she sniffed away impeaching for Mueller findings.

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 09:02 AM
Fox & Friends :lol

panics over Bolton bombshells:

‘Devastating’ because impeachment trial was ‘on the fast track to closing out’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/fox-friends-panics-over-bolton-bombshells-devastating-because-impeachment-trial-was-on-the-fast-track-to-closing-out/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3581

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 09:09 AM
Bolton’s firsthand evidence puts senators in the difficult position of believing ‘bizarro’ Trump team argument

Former Acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal and Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe agreed that the recent revelations from John Bolton (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/john-boltons-manuscript-confirms-trumps-bribery-of-ukraine-report/),

puts Republicans in a difficult position.

Bolton’s manuscript confirmed that President Donald Trump’s bribery scheme

puts senators in the difficult position of being faced with firsthand witnesses they’ve tried to block.

it forces senators to acknowledge they deny even firsthand evidence of Trump’s guilt.

“It’s hugely devastating for the president,” said Katyal.

corroborates all of that story and say that Trump did pressure the Ukrainians and held the aid in order to get dirt on Biden.”

, obstruction of Congress could also be proved by Bolton’s book.

He gave firsthand accounts of conversations he had with people like

Mick Mulvaney,
Bill Barr, and
Mike Pompeo,

all of whom knew about this scheme and helped cover it up.

coming on top of the Lev Parnas revelations,

Altogether, I think it is the trajectory of this is incredibly bad for the president.

His story has fallen apart.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/boltons-firsthand-evidence-puts-senators-in-the-difficult-position-of-believing-bizarro-trump-team-argument-legal-experts/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3581

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 09:17 AM
Follow the money on impeachment:

Trump bought off McConnell and the rest of the GOP jury —

and hints at bigger tax cuts

Republican senators are making millions off of Trump’s tax cuts — and

will repay him by betraying their oath.

with several GOP senators politically benefiting from some of the same corrupting influences (https://www.salon.com/2019/10/30/how-can-gop-senators-serve-as-impeachment-jurors-when-theyre-implicated-in-trumps-misdeeds/) — one under-examined, non-Russian reason is personal greed.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/follow-the-money-on-impeachment-trump-bought-off-the-mcconnell-and-the-rest-of-the-gop-jury-and-hints-at-bigger-tax-cuts/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3581&recip_id=298460&list_id=1

====================

How can GOP senators serve as impeachment jurors when they're implicated in Trump's misdeeds?

Ron Johnson and Marsha Blackburn are tied to Russian money and Trump's conspiracy theories.

They're not alone

the 2017 GOP tax law was

rife with monumental self-dealing by rich GOP lawmakers

who have since benefited bigly.

several Republican members of Congress

directly cashed in on the multibillion-dollar windfall from the corporate tax cuts

the GOP pushed through on a party-line vote.

America’s largest corporations proceeded to pour $1 trillion not into increased wages for workers (https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20190522_R45736_8a1214e903ee2b719e00731791d60f26d7 5d35f4.pdf) but

buybacks of their own stocks, causing stock prices to soar.

Coincidentally,

many Republican lawmakers

who voted for the largest tax cut signed into law by Trump

personally owned some of the same stocks whose values significantly increased as a result.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/follow-the-money-on-impeachment-trump-bought-off-the-mcconnell-and-the-rest-of-the-gop-jury-and-hints-at-bigger-tax-cuts/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3581&recip_id=298460&list_id=1

There was also a "witness tampering" report about Trash contacting some Senators in "difficult" 2020 races to finance their campaigns if they voted to acquit. If not ....

I remember someone saying years ago "When Congress can themselves money, it's all over"

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 09:20 AM
‘Rattled’ White House was blindsided by Bolton revelations

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rattled-white-house-was-blindsided-by-bolton-revelations-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3581 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rattled-white-house-was-blindsided-by-bolton-revelations-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3581)

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 09:23 AM
Frantic Trump tries to block Senate from calling Bolton after bombshell book blows up his Ukraine defense

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/frantic-trump-tries-to-block-senate-from-calling-bolton-after-bombshell-book-blows-up-his-ukraine-defense/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3581 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/frantic-trump-tries-to-block-senate-from-calling-bolton-after-bombshell-book-blows-up-his-ukraine-defense/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3581)

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 10:58 AM
rawstory dump

Winehole23
01-27-2020, 11:02 AM
rawstory dumpGOP cancels news conference, Romney says Bolton should testify and that there might be enough support from Republicans for a subpoena.

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 11:04 AM
rawstory dump

Darrin with NOTHING TO SAY, EVER, except attack the messenger.

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 11:06 AM
1221606656389402624

Spurs Homer
01-27-2020, 11:07 AM
GOP cancels news conference, Romney says Bolton should testify and that there might be enough support from Republicans for a subpoena.


romney is full of shit as are all GOP traitors

like i said in the beginning

moscow mitch already has a deal

protect the one most vulnerable senator

3 will vote to have witnesses

the “protected” 4th senator will not vote with them

trump is acquitted

and all 4 vulnerable senators march to the cameras and say

”we tried to get witnesses- but we could never get a 4th vote!”

Thread
01-27-2020, 11:10 AM
GOP cancels news conference, Romney says Bolton should testify and that there might be enough support from Republicans for a subpoena.

The killer is that it's sumptuously akin to Nixon worrying about McGovern for no reason whatsoever & ruining himself over it.

Biden of course was going to be no easy clean, mind you, but, the old man had the playbook he'd imagined & written & executed on Clinton right in his hands, now with the mantle of the Presidency.

Thread
01-27-2020, 11:14 AM
romney is full of shit as are all GOP traitors

like i said in the beginning

moscow mitch already has a deal

protect the one most vulnerable senator

3 will vote to have witnesses

the “protected” 4th senator will not vote with them

trump is acquitted

and all 4 vulnerable senators march to the cameras and say

”we tried to get witnesses- but we could never get a 4th vote!”

I pray you're right, Homer, but, I got a bad feeling about this now.

We're gonna fall back behind the ramparts & stave off the 2/3 computation.
Wouldn't even be surprised if the old man takes up the "Sure I did something wrong, but, it's not Impeachable, & I'm sorry, please let me stay President," tact.

Winehole23
01-27-2020, 11:15 AM
The killer is that it's sumptuously akin to Nixon worrying about McGovern for no reason whatsoever & ruining himself over it.

Biden of course was going to be no easy clean, mind you, but, the old man had the playbook he'd imagined & written & executed on Clinton right in his hands, now with the mantle of the Presidency.What's striking to me is the very good chances DJT will get away with worse than Watergate and be reeelected, damn the evidence.

Spurs Homer
01-27-2020, 11:20 AM
I pray you're right, Homer, but, I got a bad feeling about this now.

We're gonna fall back behind the ramparts & stave off the 2/3 computation.
Wouldn't even be surprised if the old man takes up the "Sure I did something wrong, but, it's not Impeachable, & I'm sorry, please let me stay President," tact.

should i say welcome back
or should i disrespect kobe to welcome you back?


hmmmm


you are wrong defending the piece of shit and you have no respect for rule of law

but RIP to a great warrior

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 11:20 AM
What's striking to me is the very good chances DJT will get away with worse than Watergate and be reeelected, damn the evidence.

the 42% contains people who will have the opportunity to be Very Good Germans, while the rest of the 42% will remain silent in the complicity and/or intimidation.

Thread
01-27-2020, 11:22 AM
What's striking to me is the very good chances DJT will get away with worse than Watergate and be reeelected, damn the evidence.

He'll be tempted to take the "confession tact" I spoke of above, or, go to court & fight it till the last man standing.

If (I) could cut a deal ("I confess, but, I stay & stand for reelection.") I'd take it, & eat the shit sandwich.
BUT, that deal will not be offered, whatsoeverPERIOD

So, he'll just have to go to court & hope in the end that Mitch & few others don't come up the road and into the White House like they did with Nixon.

Winehole23
01-27-2020, 11:31 AM
1221606656389402624
What does the qualifying clause right after the higlighted say?

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 11:38 AM
Lol

1221599633127956481

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 11:40 AM
He'll be tempted to take the "confession tact" I spoke of above, or, go to court & fight it till the last man standing.

If (I) could cut a deal ("I confess, but, I stay & stand for reelection.") I'd take it, & eat the shit sandwich.
BUT, that deal will not be offered, whatsoeverPERIOD

So, he'll just have to go to court & hope in the end that Mitch & few others don't come up the road and into the White House like they did with Nixon.
He won’t offer shit and the senate will never convict. The party is all in on trump.

ChumpDumper
01-27-2020, 11:46 AM
1221606656389402624

Who is Shem, Darrin?

Thread
01-27-2020, 11:50 AM
He won’t offer shit and the senate will never convict. The party is all in on trump.

I'm not so sure any longer, 21. Once, IF the dam breaks it won't be that difficult to get to 20. "He's going to be voted out in 9 months anyway, why should I stick my head out."

If true he should have just fought Biden man-to-man. He has/had the swing states, the ability to (fly over) 1/2 the damn country & a boundless boodle.

He's going to have to go to court, that will give him a chance & it will give him time.

---

The kicker? I wanted Bolton. I thought he'd soldier splendidly for the old man, would never double cross him, would want to shove it to the D's & Media for all the years they called him everything but a white man.

But, the relationship was rocky from day 1 with the old man always up his ass with ridicule. I didn't understand it, it was never explained. Christ, one minute he's hired, the next he's on a banana peel. Fuck!

ChumpDumper
01-27-2020, 11:50 AM
Lol

1221599633127956481

Did you know Trump's casino was a money laundering operation as determined by the DOJ?

Do you think that's a bad thing?

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 12:03 PM
I'm not so sure any longer, 21. Once, IF the dam breaks it won't be that difficult to get to 20. "He's going to be voted out in 9 months anyway, why should I stick my head out."

If true he should have just fought Biden man-to-man. He has/had the swing states, the ability to (fly over) 1/2 the damn country & a boundless boodle.

He's going to have to go to court, that will give him a chance & it will give him time.
the second trump offers any sort of mea culpa is the second where he validates the impeachment on any level, which he wont do

cocaine mitch wont let anything harm his dear leader. hell, look at lindsey graham. said trump getting elected would be akin to getting a bullet to the head. now he's bootlicker #1. the party has gone unhinged. you might call it Trump Derangement Syndrome


The kicker? I wanted Bolton. I thought he'd soldier splendidly for the old man, would never double cross him, would want to shove it to the D's & Media for all the years they called him everything but a white man.

But, the relationship was rocky from day 1 with the old man always up his ass with ridicule. I didn't understand it, it was never explained. Christ, one minute he's hired, the next he's on a banana peel. Fuck!
guy had been inaugurated for a minute and his cult following bought hook line and sinker his "this is the greatest cabinet in the history of this country" crap (which has no objective basis, obviously)... and now feels like every position has had 2-3 different people :lol

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 12:08 PM
Did you know Trump's casino was a money laundering operation as determined by the DOJ?

Do you think that's a bad thing?

Trash + corrupt Deutsche Bank, both convicted of money laundering. It was DB that loaned Trash $100Ms when US banks wouldn't touch him, with the money actually coming from corrupt Pootin's corrupt mafiya. "some say" Pootin's net worth from looting Russia is $200B

Darrin et al are such gullible tool for rightwing propaganda

Thread
01-27-2020, 12:17 PM
the second trump offers any sort of mea culpa is the second where he validates the impeachment on any level, which he wont do

cocaine mitch wont let anything harm his dear leader. hell, look at lindsey graham. said trump getting elected would be akin to getting a bullet to the head. now he's bootlicker #1. the party has gone unhinged. you might call it Trump Derangement Syndrome.

I know, I was just being fanciful. That is what (I) would do thru a back channel. You're right, he'll never do it & like I said even if he did they'd never take the deal.

He'll have to stall thru the courts, but, if there is enough blood in the water & (loser) in the air this thing could go sideways real fuckin' quick to where he won't have a friend anywhere to count on as they'll all want to refurbish the Republican Party to the old days & will take their medicine in a blood letting like after Watergate..."I'm sorry I went "unhinged," beat me & make me suffer for a while. I deserve it."

[[[If true]]] once again it's like Watergate: targeting an opponent who you stood at least a 50/50 chance of whooping honestly.

& don't be surprised if Bolton doesn't have media/tape confirming these allegations.

---

They're actually giddy on CNN this morning. The fucks!

Thread
01-27-2020, 12:24 PM
guy had been inaugurated for a minute and his cult following bought hook line and sinker his "this is the greatest cabinet in the history of this country" crap (which has no objective basis, obviously)... and now feels like every position has had 2-3 different people :lol

Well, he had back stabbers galore: Tillerson, the Generals, Comey,,,

&&& he didn't clean house Day One of every Obama holdover. "Oh, they're all Americans deep down, they'll soldier fine." No. That's in the social studies books from Junior High from the '60's.

That was foolish, reckless &&& LAZY. He didn't want to take the time & effort to clean & repopulate those positions. He just (let it go) bowled a few lines down in the basement bowling alley with Barron.

"Hey this is neat." - The old man

Spurs Homer
01-27-2020, 12:32 PM
Well, he had back stabbers galore: Tillerson, the Generals, Comey,,,

&&& he didn't clean house Day One of every Obama holdover. "Oh, they're all Americans deep down, they'll soldier fine." No. That's in the social studies books from Junior High from the '60's.

That was foolish, reckless &&& LAZY. He didn't want to take the time & effort to clean & repopulate those positions. He just (let it go) bowled a few lines down in the basement bowling alley with Barron.

"Hey this is neat." - The old man


you realize what you are saying- right?

here ill translate for you:

”sure is fucking hard to find complicit criminals nowadays!”

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 12:45 PM
TRUMP SAYS HE HAS NO INTENTION OF HAVING BOLTON’S BOOK READ ALOUD TO HIM

WASHINGTON —Donald J. Trump (https://www.newyorker.com/tag/donald-trump) has “no intention whatsoever” of having John Bolton’s (https://www.newyorker.com/tag/john-bolton) book read aloud to him, Trump confirmed on Monday.

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Trump said that his daughter,

Ivanka Trump, had obtained a draft manuscript of the Bolton book and

had offered to read it aloud to him “like she does with all of the other books,” Trump said.

“She reads the books to me slowly and stops

when there’s a long word to tell me what it means,” Trump said.

“But I told her that the Bolton book was the last book in the world that I wanted to hear.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-has-no-intention-of-having-boltons-book-read-aloud-to-him (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-has-no-intention-of-having-boltons-book-read-aloud-to-him)

Thread
01-27-2020, 12:46 PM
you realize what you are saying- right?

here ill translate for you:

”sure is fucking hard to find complicit criminals nowadays!”

Well, I see you ain't changed a bit, Homer.

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 12:48 PM
Well, he had back stabbers galore: Tillerson, the Generals, Comey,,,

&&& he didn't clean house Day One of every Obama holdover. "Oh, they're all Americans deep down, they'll soldier fine." No. That's in the social studies books from Junior High from the '60's.

That was foolish, reckless &&& LAZY. He didn't want to take the time & effort to clean & repopulate those positions. He just (let it go) bowled a few lines down in the basement bowling alley with Barron.

"Hey this is neat." - The old man
i mean, if your definition of backstabber is anybody who doesn't kiss trump's ring, yeah i guess

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 12:50 PM
I know, I was just being fanciful. That is what (I) would do thru a back channel. You're right, he'll never do it & like I said even if he did they'd never take the deal.

He'll have to stall thru the courts, but, if there is enough blood in the water & (loser) in the air this thing could go sideways real fuckin' quick to where he won't have a friend anywhere to count on as they'll all want to refurbish the Republican Party to the old days & will take their medicine in a blood letting like after Watergate..."I'm sorry I went "unhinged," beat me & make me suffer for a while. I deserve it."

[[[If true]]] once again it's like Watergate: targeting an opponent who you stood at least a 50/50 chance of whooping honestly.

& don't be surprised if Bolton doesn't have media/tape confirming these allegations.

---

They're actually giddy on CNN this morning. The fucks!
the coverup always smells just as bad (if not worse) than the crime.

its the exact reason the russia investigation blew up the way it did. if he just let it play its course, had his people cooperate, not fire comey, not try to have his lawyer fire mueller, etc, it would have been a much quieter investigation that would have ultimately found no collusion

he's making the same mistakes this time around, preventing people from testifying, refusing to turn over documents.

Thread
01-27-2020, 12:55 PM
the coverup always smells just as bad (if not worse) than the crime.

its the exact reason the russia investigation blew up the way it did. if he just let it play its course, had his people cooperate, not fire comey, not try to have his lawyer fire mueller, etc, it would have been a much quieter investigation that would have ultimately found no collusion

he's making the same mistakes this time around, preventing people from testifying, refusing to turn over documents.

I got no problem using the courts. D's/Media are always heralding the 3 Branch of Gov't, but, only when it serves their needs. Well, now it serves our needs. Let the courts decide it.

But, this is MeToo at work...nobody wants to wait for "courts"---takes too long & the verdict is uncertain. Thru MeToo you don't have to wait.

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 01:07 PM
This one on John Bolton was a big, stupid lie even by Trump standards

“The Democrat controlled House never even asked John Bolton to testify. It is up to them, not up to the Senate!”

The House Intelligence Committee scheduled a deposition (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/7/1897804/-Will-John-Bolton-s-Trump-tightrope-keep-him-from-showing-up-for-House-impeachment-testimony) with Bolton in early November,

then waited to see if he’d show up.

Bolton instead said he would go to court (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/7/1897849/-Bolton-wants-a-court-ruling-to-clear-his-path-but-he-s-more-than-ready-to-testify-in-impeachment) to get a ruling on whether the White House could block him from testifying.

“We would welcome John Bolton’s deposition and he did not appear as he was requested today,”

“His counsel has informed us that unlike three other dedicated public servants who worked for him on the NSC and have complied with lawful subpoenas,

Mr. Bolton would take us to court if we subpoenaed him.”

the committee marked Bolton’s refusal,

under White House pressure,

as another piece of Trump’s obstruction of Congress.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/27/1914380/-This-one-on-John-Bolton-was-a-big-stupid-lie-even-by-Trump-standards?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/27/1914380/-This-one-on-John-Bolton-was-a-big-stupid-lie-even-by-Trump-standards?detail=emaildkre)

Blake
01-27-2020, 01:53 PM
Schiff is by far the superior communicator on the blue side.
Dont let anyone else speak.

Truth. Being a former prosecutor helps a lot.

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 01:54 PM
GOP senators privately demanding to know why White House set them up to take the fall over Bolton

some Republicans are privately angry with the White House for boxing them into a political corner, with some demanding to know what they knew and when about the manuscript Bolton was going to release:

Maggie Haberman
✔@maggieNYT
(https://twitter.com/maggieNYT)
Per sources,

some GOP senators privately pushing White House for information on

who at administration had visibility into the manuscript over the last month.

Senators feel blindsided.

7:36 AM - Jan 27, 2020 (https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1221789190725283840)

the talking point that Democrats’ call for new witnesses is pointless because none of the witnesses are claiming direct knowledge of any corrupt motives behind the Trump administration’s decision to withhold the aid.

Bolton is revealing he did, in fact, have this knowledge, it obliterates the major justification Republicans hung their hat on to skip hearing from witnesses and summarily dismiss the trial,

lawyers for Bolton transmitted the manuscript to the White House a month ago. :lol :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/gop-senators-privately-demanding-to-know-why-white-house-set-them-up-to-take-the-fall-over-bolton-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3587&recip_id=298460&list_id=1

Trash really know how to make and keep friends and allies, until the next bus comes along

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 02:11 PM
“HE REALLY THINKS HIS CALL WAS PERFECT. IT WASN’T”: TRUMP AT ODDS WITH GOP, KUSHNER, HIS CAMPAIGN AS IMPEACHMENT BITES

Angry at

Kushner for the Time magazine cover and

at GOP allies for their lukewarm impeachment defense,

the president is veering off his campaign message. And advisers are worried.

“A lot of Republicans think the Democrats have done a very good job,” a prominent Republican who is close to Trump’s legal team told me.

“It’s been a lot better than we expected.”

Florida congressman Matt Gaetz, one of Trump’s fiercest House allies, seemingly spoke for many when he blasted Trump’s lawyers, telling (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/22/democrats-trump-impeachment-case-102504) Politico this week that the

Trump team’s presentation was worse than “an eighth-grade book report.”

Trump himself is making the situation worse, both with his rages—he set a 142-tweet record on Wednesday :lol —and

his insistence that Republicans buy in fully to his defense strategy.

“It’s really not helpful,” the Republican close to the legal team said.

“Trump is mad at Republicans that they aren’t saying his call with [Volodymyr] Zelensky was perfect.

He really thinks his call was perfect. It wasn’t.”

the dynamics of the Senate trial are clearly shifting in directions that are dangerous for the president.

Trump’s circle is waking up to the notion that impeachment is a serious drag on his campaign.

“Impeachment is drowning out all his accomplishments,” :lol accomplishments??? :lol

Trump and his advisers about whether the campaign should run on base-incitement issues like immigration or a moderate-appealing message about the economy

Trump is focused on other stuff and going after [Joe] Biden.”

Parscale said the top issues the campaign would emphasize were

the economy, :lol sucks for MOST of Americans

the China and Mexico trade deals, :lol problems caused by Trash

national security, and :lol making America less safe, like any Repug does.

protecting Medicare. :lol

Trump recently told some Republicans that he decided to say “fuck it” and kill General Qasem Soleimani

Trump may rein in Kushner by bringing in Kushner antagonist Chris Christie to replace acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01/trump-at-odds-with-kushner-as-impeachment-bites?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=VF_Hive_012720&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b1987080ca5b72e2ee7 62b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&utm_campaign=VF_Hive_012720&utm_term=VYF_Hive

Spurs Homer
01-27-2020, 02:12 PM
Kenneth starr: “look anywhere but at trumps conduct!”

Spurs Homer
01-27-2020, 02:14 PM
Suck- you- LOW: “clutching pearls regarding PROCESS!”

(still zero defense of trumps crimes)

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 02:51 PM
Suck- you- LOW: “clutching pearls regarding PROCESS!”

(still zero defense of trumps crimes)

Just like Repugs in the House, attacking witnesses and introducting irrelevant bullshit.

Repug tactic

"Yes, extortion was wrong (not "perfect"), but Trash (and Repug) corruption is not impeachable".

Thread
01-27-2020, 03:00 PM
Suck- you- LOW: “clutching pearls regarding PROCESS!”

(still zero defense of trumps crimes)

& I thought he'd be a stalwart at this. He's great on CNN, but, here, standing up he looks misshapen, short & nervous. He's got the tremors.

Thread
01-27-2020, 03:06 PM
Just like Repugs in the House, attacking witnesses and introducting irrelevant bullshit.

Repug tacic "Yes, extortion was wrong (not "perfect"), but Trash (and Repug) corruption is not impeachable".

...& that is what CNN advised (us) to do.

But, the old man, to this point has resisted going down that path. IF he goes it's over. It's a ruse to make him "surrender," then slaughter him outright.

Again, ME? Go thru a back channel & make a deal...they'll listen & won't rat. But, alas, they won't do a deal where he stipulates, but, remains in office.
So, you counter deal:::"Fine, I'll go, but, all charges from my birth date to the end of time are wiped from the scrolls, blood line as well. I'll toss that nary (pardon) will be lodged before I go. Deal?"

Spurs Homer
01-27-2020, 03:15 PM
...& that is what CNN advised (us) to do.

But, the old man, to this point has resisted going down that path. IF he goes it's over. It's a ruse to make him "surrender," then slaughter him outright.

Again, ME? Go thru a back channel & make a deal...they'll listen & won't rat. But, alas, they won't do a deal where he stipulates, but, remains in office.
So, you counter deal:::"Fine, I'll go, but, all charges from my birth date to the end of time are wiped from the scrolls, blood line as well. I'll toss that nary (pardon) will be lodged before I go. Deal?"

nope


he will have to pay for his crimes - sooner or later

no deals

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 03:24 PM
Repug Senate intends to normalize Trash's corruption, which is in full compliance with Repug/oligarchy decades of political corruption.

The next Repug Pres will push the corruption even further, along with his Exec continuing the Repug kakistocracy / oligarchy corruption / destruction of govt to bathtub size.

LkrFan
01-27-2020, 03:40 PM
https://twitter.com/HurricaneBobM/status/1221893722239094784?s=19

Colludy Rudy just got thrown under the bus :lol

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 03:50 PM
https://twitter.com/HurricaneBobM/status/1221893722239094784?s=19

Colludy Rudy just got thrown under the bus :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USdoD7RomeA

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 03:54 PM
Trump lawyer Jane Raskin calls Rudy Giuliani the House managers' 'colorful distraction'

White House Defense Lawyer Jane Raskin called

Rudy Giuliani the impeachment House managers' "colorful distraction”

in her opening argument during the Senate impeachment trial.


https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-lawyer-jane-raskin-calls-rudy-giuliani-the-house-managers-colorful-distraction-77646917586 (https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-lawyer-jane-raskin-calls-rudy-giuliani-the-house-managers-colorful-distraction-77646917586)

ElNono
01-27-2020, 03:56 PM
Hard to watch Thread completely pussified, tbh... Dear leader won’t admit to anything mostly because he’s incapable of doing so, and because he knows Trumptards will give him a pass even if there’s direct evidence he murdered the Constitution live. I mean, look at you, what you’re worried about is if shit comes out, not the fact he’s a corrupt grifter.

He’ll be fine. Mitch will shield him.

Spurs Homer
01-27-2020, 04:23 PM
That chick lawyers drivel consisted of basically, this:

”yes, Rudy is one colludee mother fucker- but dems are evil!”


nice argument

Reck
01-27-2020, 04:39 PM
That Philbin guy is boring af.

At least Sekulow yells a lot.

Thread
01-27-2020, 04:50 PM
That Philbin guy is boring af.

At least Sekulow yells a lot.

& Bondi. Lordy. She's awful. She's only there because she is loyal to the old man. & why on earth did you chose that outfit?

The only good part is when the CNN people are back on. Those fuckers are livin' large today. They can't even keep still they're so happy. Skinnin' & grinnin' to beat the band. They can smell the very beginning of the end. A niche, a foothold. They can't wait for the breaks & the end tonight so they can hammer that Bolton Book.

Reck
01-27-2020, 05:02 PM
& Bondi. Lordy. She's awful. She's only there because she is loyal to the old man. & why on earth did you chose that outfit?

The only good part is when the CNN people are back on. Those fuckers are livin' large today. They can't even keep still they're so happy. Skinnin' & grinnin' to beat the band. They can smell the very beginning of the end. A niche, a foothold. They can't wait for the breaks & the end tonight so they can hammer that Bolton Book.

She does look a little like Betty Gilpin from that top down angle though. Dont you agree?

Thread
01-27-2020, 05:05 PM
She does look a little like Betty Gilpin from that top down angle though. Dont you agree?

I'm not familiar with Gilpin, Recky.

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 05:18 PM
‘Ken Starr punched himself in the face’:
MSNBC host calls Trump team’s opener a ‘total, unmitigated disaster’

Ken Starr could not have been a worse person to give an opening statement for President Donald Trump’s impeachment.

“This is the first big TV lawyer that we’ve seen deployed, that Donald Trump added to the team,” said Melber.

“This was a disaster for Republicans, a total unmitigated legal and constitutional disaster.

Ken Starr, at no point in this dramatic, at times, mournful opening,

explained in any factual or legal way what’s different.

If anything, he drew attention — and there are senators who understand the history —

he drew attention to the fact that the last two times in modern history we’ve had impeachments: Clinton and Nixon.”

“They were for abuse of power among the original articles,” Melber agreed.

“There were

three articles for Nixon, one abuse of power,

four initially for Clinton, one abuse of power.

Hearing this mumbo jumbo of technical crime vis-à-vis high crime,

abuse of power is the ultimate high crime.

And so listening to this it was remarkable because Ken Starr is ‘Mr. Abuse of Power’ and

I was listening interested, ready, open-minded to hear him somehow distinguish, explain, foreign policy.

Nothing. He came up empty.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ken-starr-punched-himself-in-the-face-msnbc-host-calls-trump-teams-opener-a-total-unmitigated-disaster/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3588

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 05:21 PM
Conservatives resort to the ‘get over it’ defense

after Bolton makes it impossible to conceal Trump’s guilt

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/conservatives-resort-to-the-get-over-it-defense-after-bolton-makes-it-impossible-to-conceal-trumps-guilt/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3588 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/conservatives-resort-to-the-get-over-it-defense-after-bolton-makes-it-impossible-to-conceal-trumps-guilt/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3588)

Repugs are saying:

"this is Repug All Politics All The Time, lawless, anti-democratic, corrupt, slanderous, hateful, dirty tricks, ratfucking, etc.

This is Who We Are

What's you're problem?

Get Over It"

Spurs Homer
01-27-2020, 05:31 PM
Defense team liars- representing the biggest liar on the planet

right in front of chief justice roberts

roberts is worthless

lol hunter biden - private citizen = clutching pearls

ivanka/jared/trump properties/businesses = nothing to see here

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 05:55 PM
Trump’s Lawyers Humiliate Themselves With Video Of

Pelosi Handing Out Pens :lol


https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/27/trumps-lawyers-humiliate-themselves-with-video-of-pelosi-handing-out-pens.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/27/trumps-lawyers-humiliate-themselves-with-video-of-pelosi-handing-out-pens.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 05:59 PM
Ann Coulter Torches ‘Epstein’s Lawyer’ Ken Starr During Trump Trial Presentation:

His Strategy is to ‘Torture the Senate’

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/ann-coulter-torches-epsteins-lawyer-ken-starr-during-trump-trial-presentation-his-strategy-is-to-torture-the-senate/

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 06:00 PM
The other Epstein lawyer, Dershowitz will probably be just as silly

Reck
01-27-2020, 06:26 PM
Trump's lawyers not having a great day out there. First Hunter Biden, than his father and now they're all the way down to BUT OBAMA!

Are these idiot senators buying any of this?

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 06:27 PM
Trump's lawyers not having a great day out there. First Hunter Biden, than his father and now they're all the way down to BUT OBAMA!

Are these idiot senators buying any of this?
they aren't trying to convince the senators of anything, its all for show.

they could have opted not to even present a defense and trump would still be acquitted

Winehole23
01-27-2020, 07:05 PM
they aren't trying to convince the senators of anything, its all for show.

they could have opted not to even present a defense and trump would still be acquittedMAGA facing.

People need to be shown what to say.

CosmicCowboy
01-27-2020, 07:36 PM
Bolton is gonna stick that knife in deep and twist. Trump is basically toast.

Somebody please primary this asshole. Hell at this point I would take boring Romney again.

CosmicCowboy
01-27-2020, 07:40 PM
If Pence had LBJs balls we would have another parade in Dallas.

CosmicCowboy
01-27-2020, 07:42 PM
Have a commie antifa guy whack him from the depository and have a terminal MAGA Ruby whack the antifa guy.

Reck
01-27-2020, 07:42 PM
Bolton is gonna stick that knife in deep and twist. Trump is basically toast.

Somebody please primary this asshole. Hell at this point I would take boring Romney.

How many times is that going to be said and have nothing happen? Trump has fucked up so much that at least 5 presidents would have been done or in jail by now. He'll skate this time too.

CosmicCowboy
01-27-2020, 07:45 PM
How many times is that going to be said and have nothing happen? Trump has fucked up so much that at least 5 presidents would have been done or in jail by now. He'll skate this time too.

I suspect there are some serious closed door conversations happening right now with Republican senators.

Spurminator
01-27-2020, 08:18 PM
I suspect there are some serious closed door conversations happening right now with Republican senators.

Yeah, it goes "Vote the party line or we will destroy your family" and "How do we express disappointment with the President while still voting in favor of his interests at every turn?"

ChumpDumper
01-27-2020, 08:41 PM
:lol full Sylvie Pepe
1221953995800862730

boutons_deux
01-27-2020, 08:42 PM
Trump already planning his victory lap for impeachment acquittal

“The president is giving a lot of thought to

where he goes when he is acquitted and vindicated,”

a senior administration official told the website.

“This isn’t a one-and-done moment.

This will be a sustained exit from a long dreary impeachment process and a great reset to 2020 —

not just the 2020 reelection but the 2020 domestic and international arena.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-already-planning-his-victory-lap-for-impeachment-acquittal-report/

It would deliriously hilarious if those counted chickens didn't hatch, Repug Senators find their balls and spine, and convict him.

Reck
01-27-2020, 08:48 PM
:lol full Sylvie Pepe
1221953995800862730

Did they lose Romney for sure? Why attack him when he hasn't say if he'll even vote for witnesses?

Thread
01-27-2020, 08:50 PM
How many times is that going to be said and have nothing happen? Trump has fucked up so much that at least 5 presidents would have been done or in jail by now. He'll skate this time too.

You want it back like it always was. & "you" haven't rested in that pursuit since he won.

Winehole23
01-27-2020, 08:52 PM
Did they lose Romney for sure? Why attack him when he hasn't say if he'll even vote for witnesses?Just letting Romney have a little taste of what it will be like if he crosses DJT, as a treat for now.

Thread
01-27-2020, 08:53 PM
I suspect there are some serious closed door conversations happening right now with Republican senators.

...without a doubt...I'd trust about half of the 53, if that many. Most want it back like it always was just like the D's. I don't understand it, but, that's the truth.

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 08:53 PM
Bolton is gonna stick that knife in deep and twist. Trump is basically toast.

Somebody please primary this asshole. Hell at this point I would take boring Romney again.


I suspect there are some serious closed door conversations happening right now with Republican senators.
this fake concern is adorable

:lol thinking cocaine mitch will allow witnesses

Thread
01-27-2020, 08:58 PM
Just letting Romney have a little taste of what it will be like if he crosses DJT, as a treat for now.

Romney already committed to witnesses, he's 1 of 2---that palsied dingbat in Maine is the 2nd.

Romney is still bitter because he didn't make President. He didn't fight. He let O take his pants down & like it. Then he asks the old man for the SS job & is turned down & is carrying a grudge ever since.

They'll get 4, even more, so the 4 don't have to be afraid.

"even more" is where it gets dicey for the old man. "even more" can turn to double figures & then the countdown starts.

***One thing if I were the old man,,,no State of Union until the Trial is overPERIOD

ChumpDumper
01-27-2020, 08:59 PM
this fake concern is adorable

:lol thinking cocaine mitch will allow witnessesThe JFK conspiracy was a nice touch tbh.

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:15 PM
CNN's Jeffrey T00bin said the following:

"If you were a moderately to low informed viewer and all you know about Hunter and Joe Biden was what you heard today, you'd be pretty outraged. You'd be concerned and you might be one of the people that when the president starts holding rallies again, will be chanting lock him up, because it has already started to happen and it will happen if Joe Biden is the nominee."

Then he went to talk about the "more sophisticated viewers." LMAO
Trump wins again!

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 09:16 PM
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ChumpDumper
01-27-2020, 09:17 PM
1221948912094892032So you're saying Trump was right to do all this?

Make yourself clear, Darrin.

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:17 PM
If Bolton was a democratic and Hilary was president
Bolton would be dead in morning

ChumpDumper
01-27-2020, 09:18 PM
If Bolton was a democratic and Hilary was president
Bolton would be dead in morning:lol you guys can't go a day without moar conspiracies

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:19 PM
So you're saying Trump was right to do all this?

Make yourself clear, Darrin.

He broke no law
44 withheld foreign money 45 did not

ChumpDumper
01-27-2020, 09:19 PM
He broke no law
44 withheld foreign money 45 did not:lmao moar conspiracies

Of course Dennison withheld the money.

Just say that nothing matters to you but Dear Leader. Be honest.

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:20 PM
Clinton forced woman to suck his dick using the presidency to do that
Talk about abusing his authority !

ChumpDumper
01-27-2020, 09:21 PM
Clinton forced woman to suck his dick using the presidency to do that
Talk about abusing his authority !:lmao moar conspiracies

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:23 PM
I wish 45 in one bill wrote healthcare wall and intersture in one bill
When he got in office
Problem was republican senatures were unSure to think about trump then
And Paul Ryan is a joke

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 09:23 PM
So you're saying Trump was right to do all this?

Make yourself clear, Darrin.


Leave the Biden's alone! :cry

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:23 PM
:lmao moar conspiracies

Nope that was a fact
Was proven

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 09:24 PM
Clinton forced woman to suck his dick using the presidency to do that
Talk about abusing his authority !

Meh, that wasn't the crime.

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:25 PM
Could you imagine the outrage if trump forced his sec to suck his dick while in Oval Office like Clinton
Especially if one was white and one black

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:25 PM
Meh, that wasn't the crime.

If that was your daughter you would say that ?

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:28 PM
Schiff must release the IG report, without changes or tampering, which is said to be yet further exoneration of the Impeachment Hoax. He refuses to give it. Does it link him to Whistleblower? Why is he so adamant?

Winehole23
01-27-2020, 09:28 PM
1221948912094892032Now do Ivanka and Jared.

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 09:32 PM
Now do Ivanka and Jared.

Are they crackheads, too?

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:36 PM
Dan Bongino
@dbongino
Regarding Bolton:
1) Nobody cares
2) The aid was delivered
3) The Ukrainians aren’t victims (just ask them)
4) The Democrats’ corruption in Ukraine is real
5) Nobody cares

Reck
01-27-2020, 09:40 PM
Ducks and Darrin brought the post IQ on this page to severely low numbers. Holy shit.

Winehole23
01-27-2020, 09:42 PM
Are they crackheads, too?Nope, they got jobs they're not qualified for because of a family connection, like Hunter Biden.

Chris
01-27-2020, 09:43 PM
feels like every position has had 2-3 different people :lol

The swamp is rife with vermin.

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 09:44 PM
Nope, they got jobs they're not qualified for because of a family connection, like Hunter Biden.

What jobs are they unqualified for?

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 09:44 PM
The swamp is rife with vermin.
umm, this is trump's hand-picked cabinet i'm talking about.

remember, the greatest cabinet in history?

Chris
01-27-2020, 09:45 PM
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1221923949430366208?s=19

Weird.

Chris
01-27-2020, 09:45 PM
umm, this is trump's hand-picked cabinet i'm talking about.

remember, the greatest cabinet in history?

My point remains.

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 09:46 PM
My point remains.
so trump is bad at picking his cabinet?

det CEO approach tho

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 09:46 PM
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1221923949430366208?s=19

Weird.

Weird, if true

ducks
01-27-2020, 09:47 PM
Nope, they got jobs they're not qualified for because of a family connection, like Hunter Biden.

They are not working for a foreign country
She done a lot for maternity leave for woman
He done some good
Biden fucks and does not pay child support
And get paid by foreign country
Biden bragged he got leader of foreign country fired investing his son

Chris
01-27-2020, 09:47 PM
https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1221876771160805380?s=19

https://media.giphy.com/media/YHYmMLkOmqoo/giphy.gif

Reck
01-27-2020, 09:48 PM
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1221923949430366208?s=19

Weird.

Only networks that carried the full, non interrupted speeches were CNN, MSNBC and Fox News.

Actually, Fox News often cut off the dems when they were on in favor of Tucker Carson. Qchris doing Qchris things.

Winehole23
01-27-2020, 09:49 PM
What jobs are they unqualified for?They're not qualifiied to advise any President. The idea that Jared is qualified to hold any public policy portfolio, let alone the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, is preposterous.

Ivanka helped the family foundation to $1 million in charity money on day one, Jared's family business was saved from bankruptcy by a fortuitous loan from a Yemeni sovereign wealth fund. Just a coincidence that he is a relative and advisor of DJT, I guess.

That's far closer to direct corruption than Joe Biden ever came, tbh.

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 09:50 PM
https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1221876771160805380?s=19
hmm, maybe the FBI and DOJ should investigate that and see if they can press any charges

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 09:51 PM
again, the biden corruption question is a giant red herring. they could be corrupt as sin. has no bearing on trump's abuse of power.

just a big distraction that useful idiots are willfully re-circulating

Reck
01-27-2020, 09:52 PM
They're not qualifiied to advise any President. The idea that Jared is qualified to hild any public portfolio, let alone the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, is preposterous.

LOL Darrin thinks Jared is perfectly suited to handle middle east peace talks. Whatever gave him that idea?

Spurs Homer
01-27-2020, 09:53 PM
Could you imagine the outrage if trump forced his sec to suck his dick while in Oval Office like Clinton
Especially if one was white and one black

1) Trump does not have to FORCE anyone to suck his tiny mushroom - YOU and all the CULT happily do it everyday - and his entire male admin staff fellate him 24/7

2) imagine the outrage if clinton had RAPED a 13 year old girl and then threatened her familys life if they had not ended the case and take the payoff money

Winehole23
01-27-2020, 09:57 PM
LOL Darrin thinks Jared is perfectly suited to handle middle east peace talks. Whatever gave him that idea?Indoctrination. Never speak ill of a fellow Republican.

Winehole23
01-27-2020, 10:04 PM
again, the biden corruption question is a giant red herring. they could be corrupt as sin. has no bearing on trump's abuse of power.

just a big distraction that useful idiots are willfully re-circulatingIt also comports with the Trumpian motif of confession by accusation.

weebo
01-27-2020, 10:05 PM
that noose starting to get a little tighter :lol

ChumpDumper
01-27-2020, 10:06 PM
Leave the Biden's alone! :cryYou didn't answer the question, Darrin.

Are you saying Trump was right to do all this?

Make yourself clear, Darrin.

ChumpDumper
01-27-2020, 10:09 PM
Nope that was a fact
Was provenShow where it was forced.

spurraider21
01-27-2020, 10:21 PM
:lol full Sylvie Pepe
1221953995800862730

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBY6_KokQUw

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 10:23 PM
You didn't answer the question, Darrin.

Are you saying Trump was right to do all this?

Make yourself clear, Darrin.



The Dems case is all about imputing motives. Reading minds. Good luck with that.

There are legitimate concerns about corruption as it relates to Biden and Ukraine. And China, too.

DarrinS
01-27-2020, 10:24 PM
that noose starting to get a little tighter :lol

Walls are closing in, too. :lol

Reck
01-27-2020, 10:49 PM
1221996589847322628

:lol Trumpers going from stupid to...oh shit never mind.