trump impeachment watch thread

[TSA]

and the ICIG concluded the wb's complaint was legit, it's Trash's non-independent sycophant Maguire who "broke the law" by taking the wb info directly to Trash, instead of Congress. And Trash stashed it on his super-secret server.

The WB wasn’t an IC member. Maguire followed “the law”.

[ElNono]

I mean, you don't even need 'Quid pro quo', that's a red herring. The fact that he solicited the aid of a foreign country for personal gain, be political or personal, is as corrupt as it gets.

[benefactor]

Pretty much.

Completely self inflicted wound. I don't know if Rudy got him on his meds or what, completely unnecessary too.
I really am starting to think he legitimately thinks he's invincible and can do whatever he feels like doing without repercussion.:lol Danny Greene syndrome tbh.

[ElNono]

If you read the transcript why would you falsely claim that was the favor he asked for?

Prove my claim is false. I can quote the transcript where Trump solicits the Ukrainian president to 'look into' Bidden potential misdeeds, and connecting him to his *personal lawyer* and Attorney General.

You really need a lot of mental gymnastics to pretend that didn't happen.

[TSA]

I mean, you don't even need 'Quid pro quo', that's a red herring. The fact that he solicited the aid of a foreign country for personal gain, be political or personal, is as corrupt as it gets.

You had no problem with it in 2016 when the shoe was on the other foot.

[ElNono]

If you read the transcript, it sounds like he's trying to get to the bottom of the 2016 election interference by Ukraine. Is that not legitimate?

This is baloney Darrin, and you know it. His personal lawyer has nothing to do with investigating *ANYTHING* about the 2016 election. You can't spin that.

[ElNono]

You had no problem with it in 2016 when the shoe was on the other foot.

What do you mean? Let's see my quote from 2016, please. You claim.

[TSA]

Prove my claim is false. I can quote the transcript where Trump solicits the Ukrainian president to 'look into' Bidden potential misdeeds, and connecting him to his *personal lawyer* and Attorney General.

You really need a lot of mental gymnastics to pretend that didn't happen.

Quote the part of the transcript where he asks for that as a favor.

[TSA]

What do you mean? Let's see my quote from 2016, please. You claim.


You have nothing to quote, that’s the point.

[ElNono]

You had no problem with it in 2016 when the shoe was on the other foot.

And I gather this means you retract your statement that I made a false claim?

[ElNono]

You have nothing to quote, that’s the point.

You're making the claim, not me. It's your burden of proof. I don't even know what the hell you conspiratard mind is talking about.

[TSA]

I mean, you don't even need 'Quid pro quo', that's a red herring. The fact that he solicited the aid of a foreign country for personal gain, be political or personal, is as corrupt as it gets.

Since Biden is running for President his past is off limits? :lol

[ElNono]

You made the direct assertion that I "ad no problem with it in 2016 when the shoe was on the other foot". Thus, you need to show proof of that claim.

Let's see it.

[benefactor]

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg

[TSA]

And I gather this means you retract your statement that I made a false claim?


Stay focused. Your false claim was about the “favor”.

[DarrinS]

Democrats and msm have zero interest in election interference by Ukraine and the origin of russiagate. :lol

[ElNono]

Since Biden is running for President his past is off limits? :lol

:lol Nope. I'm on the record Biden should go down too, if any of the allegations are true.

I can quote that on this very thread.

[ElNono]

Stay focused. Your false claim was about the “favor”.

There was no false claim. He asked the Ukranian president for a favor. That's what 'look into' means.

[ElNono]

Democrats and msm have zero interest in election interference by Ukraine and the origin of russiagate. :lol

So you agree that Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal lawyer has nothing to do with investigating anything about 'election interference'?

[TSA]

You made the direct assertion that I "ad no problem with it in 2016 when the shoe was on the other foot". Thus, you need to show proof of that claim.

Let's see it.

Wasn’t able to find a quote of you protesting the Obama admin/DNC seeking dirt on Trump in Ukraine in 2016. You can prove me wrong by showing a quote of yours. I admit my search skills here are subpar.

[ElNono]

lol @ 'stay focused' coming from somebody that got played like a fiddle by russians none the less... :lmao

[TSA]

There was no false claim. He asked the Ukranian president for a favor. That's what 'look into' means.


Quote the actual transcript. What was the favor he asked for?

[ElNono]

Wasn’t able to find a quote of you protesting the Obama admin/DNC seeking dirt on Trump in Ukraine in 2016. You can prove me wrong by showing a quote of yours. I admit my search skills here are subpar.

Obama wasn't running for re-election. Any other non-sequitur you want to throw out there?

[SnakeBoy]

Democrats and msm have zero interest in election interference by Ukraine and the origin of russiagate. :lol

Yeah, it's fun to watch them try to navigate this minefield.

[TSA]

Obama wasn't running for re-election.
:lol and that makes it okay

[TSA]

Yeah, it's fun to watch them try to navigate this minefield.

:lol they don’t have to navigate it because they refuse to even step on the field

[ElNono]

Quote the actual transcript. What was the favor he asked for?

The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it: As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.

The President: Good because I’heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what’s happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. Photograph: Saull Loeb / Getty Images Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. Photograph: Saull Loeb / Getty Images

Anything else you need? Now walk back the 'false claim'. Thanks.

[ElNono]

:lol and that makes it okay

Didn't make that claim, but the optics are clearly different.

I also would like to see evidence of your claim about Obama's interference. I mean, you know, an actual phone call transcript? Let's see it.

[ElNono]

Democrats and msm have zero interest in election interference by Ukraine and the origin of russiagate. :lol

I thought there was no russiagate? :lol

[ElNono]

what's really ridiculous about this guy is that one day he says these calls are heavily populated, then the next day he releases this transcript, which is ridiculous in and of itself... how stupid are you? :lmao

[DarrinS]

I thought there was no russiagate? :lol

There's not, at least with respect to Trump. :lol

[ducks]

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[Winehole23]

Expressly using and then admitting to such while acting like it’s no biggie.The corruption and brazenness are frankly admired by Trumpistas, not least because it riles the libs, but also because impunity is a signifier of power.

If Trump loses, he'll carry the stink of defeat and that is the only thing the GOP cannot forgive. They'll all start saying he was never conservative and never Republican in unison, like they did with GWB after the 2006 midterms.

[boutons_deux]

what's really ridiculous about this guy is that one day he says these calls are heavily populated, then the next day he releases this transcript, which is ridiculous in and of itself... how stupid are you? :lmao

yep, just fucking amazing fucking stupid Trash is.

He spews his BS of the moment, as if all his other BS, lies are forgotten.

Trash is emotionally, cognitively fucked.

[ElNono]

There's not, at least with respect to Trump. :lol

We have a pretty large justice system, security apparatus, state department, etc. That's their job.

The contention that 'X did it too' is pure whataboutism. It's never right and they all should pay the price, if the evidence is there.

[DarrinS]

This whole political theater, orchestrated by Schiff, I have no doubt, will end up sinking Biden's campaign.


:lmao

[Winehole23]

Yeah, it's fun to watch them try to navigate this minefield.The minefield is real and the White House is running around in it.

Someone needs to tell Giuliani -- and Trump -- to shut the hell up. They are terrible clients.

[DarrinS]

We have a pretty large justice system, security apparatus, state department, etc. That's their job.

The contention that 'X did it too' is pure whataboutism. It's never right and they all should pay the price, if the evidence is there.

He released his own phone convo.

[ElNono]

This whole political theater, orchestrated by Schiff, I have no doubt, will end up sinking Biden's campaign.

:lmao

Adam Shitt and Peloshit are terrible. I don't think I've seen a better shot at impeachment right here, but these dudes will manage to fuck it up.

Getting rid of Bidden, on the other hand, might be real positive to the DNC.

[TSA]

The actual POTUS asking for a personal favor (his own words) to a foreign president, directing him to talk to his Attorney General and his *personal* lawyer, about digging dirt on one of his political opponents


The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it: As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.




Anything else you need? Now walk back the 'false claim'. Thanks.Take your L and move on Nono.

[ElNono]

He released his own phone convo.

Who's he? Trump? What does that has to do with anything? Releasing that transcript only shows the levels of stupidity.

Obviously, the transcript would've come out one way or another, Congress has authority over it.

[DarrinS]

Adam Shitt and Peloshit are terrible. I don't think I've seen a better shot at impeachment right here, but these dudes will manage to fuck it up.

Getting rid of Bidden, on the other hand, might be real positive to the DNC.


Agree with first sentence, but not the next.

Progressives think the country is left wing -- they are not.

Pennsylvania would vote for sleepy Joe in a heartbeat.

[ElNono]

Take your L and move on Nono.

:lol yeah, you have nothing to say or rebuke. I didn't think so. And next time quote the entirety of what I posted, nobody would want to think you're being disingenuous.

Now that we've established you got nothing and you were lying to boot, let's move on.

[TSA]

:lol yeah, you have nothing to say or rebuke. I didn't think so. And next time quote the entirety of what I posted, nobody would want to think you're being disingenuous.

Now that we've established you got nothing and you were lying to boot, let's move on.

“The actual POTUS asking for a personal favor (his own words) to a foreign president, directing him to talk to his Attorney General and his *personal* lawyer, about digging dirt on one of his political opponents”

The personal favor he asked for was looking into Crowdstrike. You were and are still full of shit. You can’t spin this. Move on.

[Winehole23]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/7J2R3A1BwsfJu/source.gif (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwimmITQkfDkAhUNRKwKHYibCLkQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgiphy.com%2Fgifs%2Fmr-magoo-7J2R3A1BwsfJu&psig=AOvVaw2g9lEp3mYBuQNGEvc1mQCZ&ust=1569643970492912)

[DarrinS]

Whinehole reduced to cartoons

[Winehole23]

Whinehole reduced to cartoonsSo your deal is, this is no biggie?

[DarrinS]

I'm personally more interested in the crowdstrike stuff than Biden.

[ElNono]

Agree with first sentence, but not the next.

Progressives think the country is left wing -- they are not.

Pennsylvania would vote for sleepy Joe in a heartbeat.

I don't buy this at all, it's way more complicated than that. Metropolis will vote for anything with a D next to it, the rest will not. It's just a matter of getting out the vote.

[Winehole23]

I'm personally more interested in the crowdstrike stuff than Biden.To be completely clear, you don't care that DJT dangled US military aid to get campaign dirt, correct?

[ElNono]

“The actual POTUS asking for a personal favor (his own words) to a foreign president, directing him to talk to his Attorney General and his *personal* lawyer, about digging dirt on one of his political opponents”

The personal favor he asked for was looking into Crowdstrike. You were and are still full of shit. You can’t spin this. Move on.

You omitted the next sentence, where he clearly invites him to talk to his personal laywer, his attorney general, about the Bidden.

Because you didn't quote it doesn't mean I didn't post it or it didn't happen. People here can read all of our posts.

[Pavlov]

The call transcript was so damning, that Schiff had to go full improv. :lmaoThat wasn't a transcript.

Do you think Trump did anything wrong?

Yes or no.

[DarrinS]

I mean, I'm 50 and Biden's "child" is 49. I can only imagine how thrilled I'd be, if I got discharged by the military for being a coke head and then got a sweet gig for 50k/month, with no experience because my last name was Biden.

:lol

[ElNono]

To be completely clear, you don't care that DJT dangled US military aid to get campaign dirt, correct?

Do you need it spelled out? It's all political fun and games, until big bad Democract President wants to act like a king. Then it's serious business...

This is the the short-sight idiocy of not holding people to the proper standards.

[DarrinS]

To be completely clear, you don't care that DJT dangled US military aid to get campaign dirt, correct?

They didn't know military aid was on hold at th time of the call. Keep up.

[ElNono]

I mean, I'm 50 and Biden's "child" is 49. I can only imagine how thrilled I'd be, if I got discharged by the military for being a coke head and then got a sweet gig for 50k/month, with no experience because my last name was Biden.

:lol

This post is pretty ironic...

[Winehole23]

I mean, I'm 50 and Biden's "child" is 49. I can only imagine how thrilled I'd be, if I got discharged by the military for being a coke head and then got a sweet gig for 50k/month, with no experience because my last name was Biden.

:lolSounds sleazy to me. Investigate it all again.

I'm sure you'll be the first in line to criticize Trump's children and relatives when they get cush deals from foreign countries trading on their proximity to power -- oh wait, they already have!

[DarrinS]

This post is pretty ironic...

Why?

[ElNono]

But hey, Bidden has to go down with Trump... sure thing.

[Pavlov]

“The actual POTUS asking for a personal favor (his own words) to a foreign president, directing him to talk to his Attorney General and his *personal* lawyer, about digging dirt on one of his political opponents”

The personal favor he asked for was looking into Crowdstrike. You were and are still full of shit. You can’t spin this. Move on.So the personal favor was looking into his political opponents in the DNC?

:rollin you dipshit


Thanks for admitting Trump's crime.

[ElNono]

Why?


I'm sure you'll be the first in line to criticize Trump's children and relatives when they get cush deals from foreign countries -- oh wait, they already have!

Not to mention b:lolne spurs, and being born with a silver spoon...

[Winehole23]

Ivana, one or two dozen Chinese copyrights, Kushner, 600 mil from the Qataris...

[Pavlov]

I mean, I'm 50 and Biden's "child" is 49. I can only imagine how thrilled I'd be, if I got discharged by the military for being a coke head and then got a sweet gig for 50k/month, with no experience because my last name was Biden.

:lolWhat crimes are you accusing the Bidens of committing, Darrin?

[DMC]

I mean, I'm 50 and Biden's "child" is 49. I can only imagine how thrilled I'd be, if I got discharged by the military for being a coke head and then got a sweet gig for 50k/month, with no experience because my last name was Biden.

:lol

He's just biden his time.

[DarrinS]

Sounds sleazy to me. Investigate it all again.

I'm sure you'll be the first in line to criticize Trump's children and relatives when they get cush deals from foreign countries -- oh wait, they already have!


Dems nuked Biden. You can bump this, if it turns out to be false.

[pgardn]

We got members of the red team that have no clue as to the seriousness of what Trump dumped about himself. He shitted on himself. The whistle blower, the encryption stuff he might be trying to hide... It’s the icing.

He is done in 2020. The red team in office understands the seriousness. The interest is in the loyalty for a man who just cold-cocked himself. The rest will just add to it. So you keep concentrating on the rest instead of what he has done and said he has done. This, but, but, Biden.... Has nothing whatsoever to do with what the orange idiot has done to himself. Start a new thread about Biden and hope for the best as you probably want to pretend what our president has done never happened.

Lets see how much more it takes before team red decides to put up a serious candidate. Because red could still win with a serious candidate. Otherwise, bye-bye.

[Winehole23]

They didn't know military aid was on hold at th time of the call. Keep up.Yeah, they did. What was that bit about Javelin anti-tank missiles?

[ElNono]

But hey, it's more whataboutism... go at all of them... It's certainly shady and stinks of improper.... the selective memory is kinda tedious though...

[ElNono]

He's just biden his time.

:lol

[Winehole23]

Dems nuked Biden. You can bump this, if it turns out to be false.Trump nuked himself. Might also have nuked a few other US officials.

You can bump this if it turns out to be false.

[ElNono]

They should kick him out AND let him run in 2020 again for his second term... I mean, he's going to be campaigning all next year anyways...

[DarrinS]

Yeah, they did. What was that bit about Javelin anti-tank missiles?

Link?

[Winehole23]

They should kick him out AND let him run in 2020 again for his second term... I mean, he's going to be campaigning all next year anyways...Unfortunately for the Dems, they're really bad at politics. They'll find some way to screw it up.

[Winehole23]

Link?It's in the memo you claim to have read.

[ElNono]

Gonna go back to Borderlands 3, tbh, but gonna also ask this:

Are Republicans really this short sighted? You know that sooner or later, he won't be the prez anymore, and all this shit is going to air out. This country will likely have a Democrat president again, potentially with *all* the executive power this guy pretends to have, including being unchecked.

I still remember some peeps saying Obama was plotting to have a third term... (lol Wild Cobra, D'Souza, etc). You don't think this guy is way, way more prone to angle for something like that?

[Winehole23]

Gonna go back to Borderlands 3, tbh, but gonna also ask this:

Are Republicans really this short sighted? You know that sooner or later, he won't be the prez anymore, and all this shit is going to air out. This country will likely have a Democrat president again, potentially with *all* the executive power this guy pretends to have, including being unchecked.Yep, but it also goes for Dems.

I got no traction with this point during GWB's administration, nor with Obama's.

The growth of the executive power and the surveillance state since 2001 have been radical. If we end up with authoritarianism it will not be because we elected a bad man, it will be because we have placed unaccountable power in his hands.

[Spurtacular]

I still remember some peeps saying Obama was plotting to have a third term... (lol Wild Cobra, D'Souza, etc). You don't think this guy is way, way more prone to angle for something like that?

Establishment worshiped Obama. If anyone in recent memory had a chance at that, it was him.

Obviously, people like you are desperate to reverse the narrative though and create a false equivalency.

[Winehole23]

Bush-Obama-Trump is a continuum. Each stands on the shoulders of his predecessor.

[boutons_deux]

Trash claims that Pelosi is no longer the Speaker of the House ??? WTF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-KEFW5nETQ&t=611s

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[ElNono]

Establishment worshiped Obama. If anyone in recent memory had a chance at that, it was him.

Obviously, people like you are desperate to reverse the narrative though and create a false equivalency.

'Reverse' what narrative? Only a couple of loons came up with that retarded conspiracy, completely baseless.

Some of you guys need to pick a lane. Obama was this far leftist or establishment?

Obama was no more 'establishment' than any of his predecessors, and none of them clearly advocated for such a thing.

[ElNono]

Yep, but it also goes for Dems.

I got no traction with this point during GWB's administration, nor with Obama's.

The growth of the executive power and the surveillance state since 2001 have been radical. If we end up with authoritarianism it will not be because we elected a bad man, it will be because we have placed unaccountable power in his hands.

Agreed. You will find posts of mine from those eras stating the same.

[Spurtacular]

'Reverse' what narrative? Only a couple of loons came up with that retarded conspiracy, completely baseless.

Some of you guys need to pick a lane. Obama was this far leftist or establishment?

Obama was no more 'establishment' than any of his predecessors, and none of them clearly advocated for such a thing.

Not exactly divorce factions.

[Winehole23]

Not exactly divorce factions.Ok

What do you mean by "establishment"?

[spurraider21]

You omitted the next sentence, where he clearly invites him to talk to his personal laywer, his attorney general, about the Bidden.

Because you didn't quote it doesn't mean I didn't post it or it didn't happen. People here can read all of our posts.
:lmao tsa hasn't come back from this one

[Winehole23]

:lmao tsa hasn't come back from this oneWon't stop him next time.

Selective/misleading quotation is a TSA specialty.

[ElNono]

Not exactly divorce factions.

pretty much divorced. How do you reconcile the proletariat message of the far left with the alleged plutocracy of the establishment?

[Winehole23]

He released his own phone convo.He also called people who cooperated with the investigation "spies" and said that in a better world, they would be executed.

Like you do when you're innocent.

[Winehole23]

pretty much divorced. How do you reconcile the proletariat message of the far left with the alleged plutocracy of the establishment?Our far left capitalist overlords

[ElNono]

His government was pretty much right of center, and closer to the establishment... despite any rhetoric to the contrary...

[Winehole23]

There's not, at least with respect to Trump. :lolAh, yes, I see the GOP Russiagate conspiracy is still going strong:

1177300405274980353

[Spurtacular]

pretty much divorced. How do you reconcile the proletariat message of the far left with the alleged plutocracy of the establishment?

The leaders of the far left are ultimately statists.

[ElNono]

The leaders of the far left are ultimately statists.

Which is completely at odds with the idea of what's normally inferred as 'the establishment' (a few plutocrat elite that control everything).

If anything, the doctrine of the far left is to take everything away from the rich/elite.

[hater]

Gonna go back to Borderlands 3, tbh,

Wise decision ma niga :lol

[ElNono]

Wise decision ma niga :lol

Prolly gonna take Adam Shitt 3 months to impeach anyways... :lol

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/DearAuntCrabby/status/1177541116213768192?s=19

:lol

[baseline bum]

Gonna go back to Borderlands 3

Link's Awakening is where it's at right now tbh

[hater]

Link's Awakening is where it's at right now tbh

How is it compared to breath of d wind?

[boutons_deux]

If anything, the doctrine of the far left is to take everything away from the rich/elite.

:lol what bullshit

Even if that were true, taking "everything away from the rich/elite." and investing it For The People would be wonderfully superior to the "rich/elite" currently taking away everything from the non-rich/elite.

eg, health insurance is now $20K/year, with group insurance members paying $6K ($500 / month buys a fantastic vehicle)

[baseline bum]

How is it compared to breath of d wind?

Pretty much the exact opposite of BOTW. It's more like A Link to the Past.

[TheGreatYacht]

The Way Trump’s Impeachment Would Unfold, In Great Detail

https://youtu.be/6rwZ4LTXH3A

[boutons_deux]

I fear the Dem pols don't have the fire and skill to put together a winning Articles of Impeachment nor to expose it thoroughly, slowly in the House.

I already read recommendations that A of I should be narrowed only to the Ukraine shit, excluding all the other shit Trash has committed before and after election. eg, excluding his guilt and $25M penalty for Trash U scamming

[pgardn]

I fear the Dem pols don't have the fire and skill to put together a winning Articles of Impeachment nor to expose it thoroughly, slowly in the House.

I already read recommendations that A of I should be narrowed only to the Ukraine shit, excluding all the other shit Trash has committed before and after election. eg, excluding his guilt and $25M penalty for Trash U scamming

It is a legit problem.
The guy has pushed so many boundaries it’s overwhelming. The blue team gives the red team a chance to muddy the water by going into other shit. This current and most blatant problem is clear and most recent. The American people don’t even necessarily know that asking a foreign government to dig up dirt against a political opponent is a seriously high crime. And Certainly 1/3 of the voting public does not gaf.

[Spurs Homer]

Pelosi will narrow this impeachment to only the ukraine fuckery

then will display only documented facts

trump withheld $$$
trump sent goons to strong arm ukraine and announcing that only if ukraine prez “plays ball” - will there ever be any $$

after that was established and 400 million was held

then trump took call and impeached himself officially

wh then tried to cover it up

it will be a simple clear vote

dems will all vote that

”yes- any president who abuses his power to extort and to sic foreign govts on his political opponents should be impeached for high crimes and assorted fuckery”

bitch mcconnell and the corrupt gop will tell america

”we defend abuse of power even when we see proof and facts and the crimes are indisputable”

good night moscow!

[boutons_deux]

Founders: Removal from office is not the only purpose of impeachment

In my work as a law professor (http://www.clarkcunningham.org/) studying original texts (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/29/big-trump-case-hinges-definition-emoluments-new-study-has-bad-news-him/) about the U.S. Constitution, I’ve found statements made at the
Constitutional Convention explaining that the Founders viewed impeachment as a regular practice with three purposes:



To remind both the country and the president that he is not above the law
To deter abuses of power
To provide a fair and reliable method to resolve suspicions about misconduct.


The Convention delegates repeatedly agreed with the assertion by George Mason of Virginia, that

“no point is of more importance (https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llfr&fileName=002/llfr002.db&recNum=68) … than the right of impeachment” because no one is “above justice.”

Need for deterrence

One of the Founders’ greatest fears was that the president would abuse his power.

George Mason described the president as the “man who can commit the most extensive injustice (https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llfr&fileName=002/llfr002.db&recNum=68).”

James Madison thought the president might “pervert his administration (https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llfr&fileName=002/llfr002.db&recNum=68) into a scheme of [stealing public funds]

or oppression or betray his trust to foreign powers (https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llfr&fileName=002/llfr002.db&recNum=69).”

Edmund Randolph, governor of Virginia, said the president “will have great opportunitys of abusing his power (https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llfr&fileName=002/llfr002.db&recNum=70);

particularly in time of war when the military force,

and in some respects the public money will be in his hands.”
(https://images.theconversation.com/files/294441/original/file-20190926-51425-1fa1c8y.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip)
https://theconversation.com/founders-removal-from-office-is-not-the-only-purpose-of-impeachment-124254

[pgardn]

The narrow path will also influence red team members to stick with one issue. Then we watch the rats jump ship, or stay on and drown. Some are up for re election. They know the seriousness, it seems only Trump was oblivious. Rudy et al will also be interesting with a narrow focus.

[baseline bum]

The narrow path will also influence red team members to stick with one issue. Then we watch the rats jump ship, or stay on and drown. Some are up for re election. They know the seriousness, it seems only Trump was oblivious. Rudy et al will also be interesting with a narrow focus.

Trump is the GOP. No one is jumping ship.

[TSA]

You omitted the next sentence, where he clearly invites him to talk to his personal laywer, his attorney general, about the Bidden.

Because you didn't quote it doesn't mean I didn't post it or it didn't happen. People here can read all of our posts.You are just making shit up now :lol

"I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible."

[boutons_deux]

Trump is the GOP. No one is jumping ship.

From Florida Man, “Presidential Protection Fund (https://floridapolitics.com/archives/306766-ron-desantis-enters-impeachment-fray-raising-money-to-protect-donald-trump)”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/26/1887046/-DeSantis-has-become-the-most-corrupt-governor-in-the-US-and-is-desperate-to-save-Trump?utm_campaign=trending (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/26/1887046/-DeSantis-has-become-the-most-corrupt-governor-in-the-US-and-is-desperate-to-save-Trump?utm_campaign=trending)

[Spurs Homer]

You are just making shit up now :lol

"I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible."

yeah

because the entire planet knows and believes that Trump is a bastion of goodness, honesty & moral fiber and just roots out corruption all over the world!

lolololol

[ducks]

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo says pressure from “leftist” Democrats sparked the House’s impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, Politico is reporting.

And he predicted the investigation would create total gridlock in Washington.

Cuomo said the nation was headed “down a very long and unproductive road” that will not end with Trump’s removal from office, according to Politico.

[ducks]

Media Report Trump’s Ukraine Call ‘Preconditioned’ On Discussing Hunter Biden. That Was A Lie.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/media-report-trumps-ukraine-call-preconditioned-on-discussing-hunter-biden-forced-to-issue-correction?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

[Winehole23]

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo says pressure from “leftist” Democrats sparked the House’s impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, Politico is reporting.

And he predicted the investigation would create total gridlock in Washington.

Cuomo said the nation was headed “down a very long and unproductive road” that will not end with Trump’s removal from office, according to Politico.Cuomo agrees with the chorus of ideologically diverse Never-Trumpers at the NYT pooh-poohing impeachment.

What a surprise.

[RandomGuy]

So the server normally reserved for highly sensitive intelligence and covert ops was used for the transcript and related documents.
In a move that former intel officials call... unusual, given the call did not concern any actual intelligence operations.

Almost as if they knew there was something they wanted to hide.

Trump official says lawyers had Ukraine call transcript moved to secure system
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-official-says-wh-lawyers-directed-moving-ukraine-call-transcript-to-secure-system

[Spurminator]

:tu Tulsi

https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1176507038832254977?s=19

Condolences.

1177624313584857090

[RandomGuy]

Russia, if you are listening where are Hillary's emails?


I love it



I would take it


Do us a favor

Yet, this is no problem for conservatives, there is no pattern. Nothing to be concerned about.

???

Wow.

[boutons_deux]

So the server normally reserved for highly sensitive intelligence and covert ops was used for the transcript and related documents.
In a move that former intel officials call... unusual, given the call did not concern any actual intelligence operations.

Almost as if they knew there was something they wanted to hide.

Trump official says lawyers had Ukraine call transcript moved to secure system
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-official-says-wh-lawyers-directed-moving-ukraine-call-transcript-to-secure-system

Trash's secret server was for top secret Nat Sec stuff.

Trash/Barr stashed Trump-incriminating POLITICAL stuff there and told Congress nobody could have it.

Why are Trash and his mafiya always hiding stuff, forgetting, lying, obstructing?

Why do they ALWAYS act so defensively guilty?

[lefty]

Slghtly OT but damn

https://twitter.com/tania_r237/status/1177593650618015745?s=21

[hater]

Condolences.

1177624313584857090

Triggered

[RandomGuy]

Slghtly OT but damn

https://twitter.com/tania_r237/status/1177593650618015745?s=21

:lol

[TSA]

So the server normally reserved for highly sensitive intelligence and covert ops was used for the transcript and related documents.
In a move that former intel officials call... unusual, given the call did not concern any actual intelligence operations.

Almost as if they knew there was something they wanted to hide.

Trump official says lawyers had Ukraine call transcript moved to secure system
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-official-says-wh-lawyers-directed-moving-ukraine-call-transcript-to-secure-system

After 2017, when verbatim transcripts of his conversations with the leaders of Australian and Mexico were leaked to the press, the White House began to restrict the number of officials who had access to the transcripts. One former Trump administration official confirmed that the White House started placing transcripts into the codeword system after those leaks.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/26/trump-lockdown-transcript-1514714

:dramaquee

[boutons_deux]

Seven important and awful signs for Trump

it is the muted reaction of Senate Republicans that leads the list of disastrous signs for the president.

A second bad sign for Trump: The polls are already moving in favor of impeachment — and moving fast.

A third negative indicator for Trump is that the involvement of so many people — possibly including Attorney General William P. Barr and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney — gives this a Watergate feel and creates many witnesses.

Fourth, when Trump’s remarks (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-says-our-country-stake-whistleblower-account-made-public-n1059011) threatening a whistleblower immediately leaked one could see not only a new basis for impeachment but a willingness of all sorts of people to rat him out.

Fifth, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has given the laboring oar to the Intelligence Committee headed by the very able Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) and on which two of the sharpest Democrats sit — Reps. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) and Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.).

Sixth, Pelosi has wisely decided to focus (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/democrats-eye-quick-impeachment-probe-of-trump-as-freshmen-push-for-focus-on-ukraine/2019/09/26/66f50b20-e089-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html) on the whistleblower material for impeachment. This topic alone could provide a basis for impeachment articles on abuse of power, obstruction and threatening a whistleblower.

Finally, Trump is even less circumspect, disciplined and rational than usual.

And why wouldn’t he be?

He may well be only the third president impeached (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/25/what-you-need-know-about-impeachment-inquiry-into-trump/) and has a shot at being the first removed.

Surely he must see the walls closing in and the potential for removal, prosecution and,

worst of all for a first-class narcissist, humiliation.

He was so thickheaded he didn’t even realize what was incriminating.

He was so foolish as to take advice from the equally unhinged Giuliani.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/27/seven-important-awful-signs-trump/?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/27/seven-important-awful-signs-trump/?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1)https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/27/seven-important-awful-signs-trump/?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/27/seven-important-awful-signs-trump/?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1)

tranny Julie Annie, aka The Best People

[ducks]

There are still 12 House Democrats who don't support impeachment proceedings. Why?

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/house-democrats-impeachment/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1176882766597767168

:rollin

[SnakeBoy]

After 2017, when verbatim transcripts of his conversations with the leaders of Australian and Mexico were leaked to the press, the White House began to restrict the number of officials who had access to the transcripts. One former Trump administration official confirmed that the White House started placing transcripts into the codeword system after those leaks.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/26/trump-lockdown-transcript-1514714

:dramaquee

It's falling apart on them.

Week in review. It's bribery just wait until you see the transcript, oh well you have to read between the lines and a brief claim it constituted a campaign finance violation. Then it was just wait until you see the whistle blower report but now that it's clear this person doesn't even qualify as a whistle blower they are moving onto the "cover up" angle. Let's see how long it takes to find out who the leaker is and if the rumors that Schiff was involved in writing the phony whistle blower report are true.

[hater]

It's falling apart on them.

Week in review. It's bribery just wait until you see the transcript, oh well you have to read between the lines and a brief claim it constituted a campaign finance violation. Then it was just wait until you see the whistle blower report but now that it's clear this person doesn't even qualify as a whistle blower they are moving onto the "cover up" angle. Let's see how long it takes to find out who the leaker is and if the rumors that Schiff was involved in writing the phony whistle blower report are true.

Don't forget they first said Trump threatened to sta aid and quid pro quo etc

Then quid pro quo is not needed :lol

Now it's not the call it's the cover up of the call :lol

:lmao

[Spurminator]

It's falling apart on them.

Week in review. It's bribery just wait until you see the transcript, oh well you have to read between the lines and a brief claim it constituted a campaign finance violation. Then it was just wait until you see the whistle blower report but now that it's clear this person doesn't even qualify as a whistle blower they are moving onto the "cover up" angle. Let's see how long it takes to find out who the leaker is and if the rumors that Schiff was involved in writing the phony whistle blower report are true.

:lol What batshit conservative news bubble have you been spending the last week living in?

[ducks]

Sen. Harris Pushing Impeachment Inquiry of Kavanaugh

[SnakeBoy]

:lol What batshit conservative news bubble have you been spending the last week living in?

I'm just watching the goalpost moving.

[boutons_deux]

https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1176882766597767168

:rollin

"The Eastern European nation was expecting nearly $400 million (https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/09/25/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-us-aid-package-to-ukraine-that-trump-delayed/) in US support — including weapons, training, and advisers — to boost its effort to fight off Russia which invaded the country in 2014.

But by the time Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky got

on the now infamous July 25 call (https://www.vox.com/2019/9/25/20883325/transcript-trump-ukraine-president-impeachment)

with Trump, that aid had yet to be sent.

It’s therefore no surprise

Zelensky mentioned the assistance to Trump,

to which Trump responded he’d like Zelensky to do him a “favor” in return:

investigate former Vice President Joe Biden (https://www.vox.com/2019/4/25/18185060/joe-biden-2020-presidential-election-campaign-policies) and his son.

It certainly seems like a quid pro quo was pretty clearly implied:

You want your aid? Help me dig up dirt on my 2020 political rival.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/24/20881505/donald-trump-withhold-aid-ukraine-timeline-whistleblower (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/24/20881505/donald-trump-withhold-aid-ukraine-timeline-whistleblower)

So VZ knew the stuff had been delayed, and so asked Trash about IN THE FUCKING PHONE CALL

and in return Trash, withholder, asked for a "favor"

[RandomGuy]

[The administration has such a history of problematic or stupid calls to foreign leaders that placing transcripts on a server normally reserved for national security was a standard practice to keep people from learning about the stupid or problematic calls with foreign leaders]

So that's what you are going with? Okaaaay. :rolleyes

[vy65]

So the server normally reserved for highly sensitive intelligence and covert ops was used for the transcript and related documents.
In a move that former intel officials call... unusual, given the call did not concern any actual intelligence operations.

Almost as if they knew there was something they wanted to hide.

Trump official says lawyers had Ukraine call transcript moved to secure system
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-official-says-wh-lawyers-directed-moving-ukraine-call-transcript-to-secure-system

But this isn't an intelligence matter, memba?

[in2deep]

Lol Hillary gets a pass for using her home server to store communications and trump gets impeached for using a Federal secure server :lol

[RandomGuy]

I'm just watching the goalpost moving.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments to make up dirt on political rivals?

[vy65]

After 2017, when verbatim transcripts of his conversations with the leaders of Australian and Mexico were leaked to the press, the White House began to restrict the number of officials who had access to the transcripts. One former Trump administration official confirmed that the White House started placing transcripts into the codeword system after those leaks.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/26/trump-lockdown-transcript-1514714

:dramaquee

April Doss, who served as senior minority counsel for the Russia investigation on the Senate Intelligence Committee and, prior to that, as a top attorney at the National Security Agency, said the S//OC//NF designation of the memo “seems like a typical level of classification for that kind of call.”

That classification indicates that the disclosure of the call would cause "serious damage" to national security, cannot be disseminated by anyone except the originator, and is prohibited from disclosure to foreign nationals. A code word classification, meanwhile, is top secret—a level higher than secret—and then further compartmentalized by adding a code word so that only those who have been cleared for each code word can see it.

Doss said it would be “highly unusual” for this kind of routine call between world leaders to be placed into a system that’s used for information about the nation’s most highly compartmented programs. “It risks undermining a whole host of important national security activities,” she said, noting that “most if not all” officials who would need to have access to call readouts as part of carrying out their regular duties in advising on foreign affairs and implementing the administration’s policies “would not have access” to the codeword system.

[DarrinS]

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments to make up dirt on political rivals?

Lol, "make up dirt"

[SnakeBoy]

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments to make up dirt on political rivals?

Did that happen?

and why do you keep asking me questions unrelated to what I post?

[DarrinS]

Lol, "make up dirt"

I thought that sounded familiar

Schiff -- "We’ve been very good to your country. Very good. No other country has done as much as we have. But you know what, I don’t see much reciprocity here. I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you, though, and I’m going to say this only seven times so you better listen good.

I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand? Lots of it. "

[SnakeBoy]

I thought that sounded familiar

Schiff -- "We’ve been very good to your country. Very good. No other country has done as much as we have. But you know what, I don’t see much reciprocity here. I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you, though, and I’m going to say this only seven times so you better listen good.

I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand? Lots of it. "

Apparently there are statements in the whistle blower complaint that are also direct quotes from previous Schiff tweets

Sauces say :lol

[ducks]

So the left thinks guns need to be taken away because guns kill people
The left knows impeachment will fail but nothing will get done about guns or roads or Heath Care because Trump is more important !

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/71820641_3334073423277332_1142052965310267392_o.pn g.jpg?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQlmhs8NAvBBOUhQpcjV1UUWiIEbAop_rx8O4eFkYmB LI65jcjepSL3h80vLNtpZYJmn3REhq1Emyby7M28282Wl&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&tp=1&oh=15dbbf57b12643250a4a0a809fe11d13&oe=5DFDF3C4

[clambake]

So the left thinks guns need to be taken away because guns kill people
The left knows impeachment will fail but nothing will get done about guns or roads or Heath Care because Trump is more important !

you can keep your guns, but your post seems to suggest that you have some problems with your roads and healthcare in your area?

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1176882766597767168

:rollin

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1177650224724099073

[Pavlov]

Ukraine meddled? Is this TSA's Chalupa Grande conspiracy again?

:lol

[Sheriff Hoyt]

1177675618789593093

[Sheriff Hoyt]

1177675334059200512

[Sheriff Hoyt]

1177675482327916545

[Spurs Homer]

After 2017, when verbatim transcripts of his conversations with the leaders of Australian and Mexico were leaked to the press, the White House began to restrict the number of officials who had access to the transcripts. One former Trump administration official confirmed that the White House started placing transcripts into the codeword system after those leaks.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/26/trump-lockdown-transcript-1514714

:dramaquee


if the traitor wasn’t such a dirty lying corrupt piece of shit criminal

leaks and hiding conversations would never be an issue


just tell your tsa litter this;

” hey guys i dont have anything against lying, committing crimes, extorting other people, scheming and lying about your crimes- but i will come down hard on whomever leaks any of your criminality- now lets go out and defend the top criminal in our country - im really proud of you kids!”

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177669563477118976

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1177679850116653062

:lol

[Pavlov]

:lol when does the Crowdstrike ad drop?

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Lawyers Argue That He Cannot Be Impeached Because He Was Never Actually Elected

WASHINGTON —In what they believe is a legal masterstroke, lawyers for Donald J. Trump are now claiming that he cannot be impeached because he was never actually elected.

In a lengthy memo sent to the special counsel, Robert Mueller, the lawyers pushed back vehemently against any allegation that Trump was legally elected President.

“Because Russian interference made the election of Donald J. Trump wholly illegitimate,

any attempt to remove him from an office that he does not legally hold is clearly impossible,”

the memo asserted.

The memo claimed that the

Constitution contains “no provision for removing a person from office

when that person was installed there by a foreign power.”

The memo went on to argue that, if a subpoena is sent to the White House, it will be returned to Mueller and
stamped “addressee unknown.”

“A person referred to in a subpoena as ‘President’ Donald J. Trump simply does not exist,” the memo claimed.

Minutes after the memo was leaked, the former New York mayor

Rudolph Giuliani appeared on “Fox & Friends” and proudly announced that he was its author.

“Sometimes I have to just step back and say, ‘Damn it, Rudy, you’re good,’ ” he said, beaming.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trumps-lawyers-argue-that-he-cannot-be-impeached-because-he-was-never-actually-elected?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenews letter_Borowitz_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Borowitz_092719&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=bounceX&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Borowitz (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trumps-lawyers-argue-that-he-cannot-be-impeached-because-he-was-never-actually-elected?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenews letter_Borowitz_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Borowitz_092719&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=bounceX&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Borowitz)

[RandomGuy]

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments to make up dirt on political rivals?


Lol, "make up dirt"

"make up" or "provide", either way you wish.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[RandomGuy]

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?


Did that happen?

and why do you keep asking me questions unrelated to what I post?

Just want to see what your tolerance for abuse of power/office is.

It is too difficult a question for you? It is pretty easy for me.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[boutons_deux]

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments to make up dirt on political rivals?



"make up" or "provide", either way you wish.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

Tom Hagen has answer:

presidential candidates should report foreign adversaries offering dirt to FBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcuRpw-Yv8

[SnakeBoy]

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

Again, did that happen? I haven't seen clear evidence. Let's see what comes forward. Case looks weak at the moment.

Is it ok for a President to ask a foreign government to investigate possible corruption in their country?

[Pavlov]

Again, did that happen? I haven't seen clear evidence. Let's see what comes forward. Case looks weak at the moment.

Is it ok for a President to ask a foreign government to investigate possible corruption in their country?What was the Crowdstrike corruption in Ukraine?

[Winehole23]

I'm just watching the goalpost moving.Both things are in the complaint, the ostensible bribery and the unusual compartmentalization of the call.

Where's the goalpost move?

[SnakeBoy]

What was the Crowdstrike corruption in Ukraine?

I don't even know the crowdstrike story tbh. Something to do with the dnc server/russiagate is all I know. I've heard Hannity types talk about it but it's too convoluted for me to care. There is a justice department investigation into the origin of russia-gate ongoing.

Is it ok for a President to ask a foreign government to investigate possible corruption in their country?

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177669563477118976

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1177679850116653062

:lol

You are way too easily amused.

LOL the President is running an ad campaign! YEAH!! WOOHOO!! :lmao :lmao

[Spurminator]

THIS IS AWESOME! He made a VIDEO and he's PAYING TV Networks to PLAY IT in their PROGRAMMING!!

WOW :cheer

[Pavlov]

I don't even know the crowdstrike story tbh. Something to do with the dnc server/russiagate is all I know. I've heard Hannity types talk about it but it's too convoluted for me to care. There is a justice department investigation into the origin of russia-gate ongoing.

Is it ok for a President to ask a foreign government to investigate possible corruption in their country?After they've already dropped the case that never had anything to do with the political opponent and his relative and only to hurt that political opponent? No, that is not OK.

Do you think that is OK?

Yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

1st time
Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?


Did that happen?

and why do you keep asking me questions unrelated to what I post?




Just want to see what your tolerance for abuse of power/office is.

It is too difficult a question for you? It is pretty easy for me.

2nd time.
Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?


Again, did that happen? I haven't seen clear evidence. Let's see what comes forward. Case looks weak at the moment.

Is it ok for a President to ask a foreign government to investigate possible corruption in their country?

Yes, it happened.
Yes, it is ok for a President ask a foreign government to investigate possible corruption in their country.

My question was simply a general one, as yours is.

3rd time
Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[Pavlov]

I don't even know the crowdstrike story tbh. Something to do with the dnc server/russiagate is all I know.So it's OK because you don't understand it.

:lol

[RandomGuy]

Again, did that happen? Case looks weak at the moment.



Russia, if you are listening where are Hillary's emails?


I love it



I would take it


Do us a favor

[Winehole23]

So it's OK because you don't understand it.

:lol
Snake Boy is hiding behind more or less complete ignorance of the case and parroting GOP talking points.

Like you do.

[SnakeBoy]

Both things are in the complaint, the ostensible bribery and the unusual compartmentalization of the call.

Where's the goalpost move?

Dems are changing their talking points daily.

I don't know why you guys are pretending you're lawyers or pretending this is a legal proceeding. Impeachment is a purely political procedure by design. An impeachable offense is whatever the house says it is. I believe it was Gingrich who when asked why are you impeaching answered "because we can".

So I've only been making two points...

First, I'll believe Dems are actually moving forward with impeachment when they take a floor vote and put their vulnerable members on record. Until then I'll believe they are just hanging the impeachment carrot in front of the base as they have been doing since Trump took office.

Second, I think Dems are losing the public relations battle to get enough support in the country to make impeachment politically beneficial. I could be wrong. This is the only thing Pelosi is trying to figure out now.

[SnakeBoy]

I'll add, as of now Dems don't have nearly the evidence to hope for a conviction in the Senate.

[DarrinS]

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments to make up dirt on political rivals?



"make up" or "provide", either way you wish.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?


The correct way to do it is through a cutout, e.g. Perkins Coie, who can then hire a subcontractor, e.g. Fusion GPS, to do the dirt digging with foreign governments.

[Winehole23]

I'll add, as of now Dems don't have nearly the evidence to hope for a conviction in the Senate.It would be more accurate to say they don't have a majority in the Senate, or a President to protect.

Lucky for DJT, it doesn't appear he'll be getting the Benghazi treatment.

Impeachment isn't a judicial process. There's no evidentiary test beyond whatever may be self imposed. It's a political process to rein in lawlessness and maladministration, or whatever a majority of the US House thinks is impeachable.

[SnakeBoy]

Snake Boy is hiding behind more or less complete ignorance of the case and parroting GOP talking points.

Like you do.

There was a time when you were one of the better posters because you gave your perspective and were willing to say I don't know. Now you feign being an internet expert on everything and always right. What happened Whinehole, did you come to believe you were going to win something on the internet?

[Winehole23]

If the public gets on board, the GOP could cave. Trump continually melting down may not help him in this regard.

[DarrinS]

Interesting

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[RandomGuy]

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments to make up dirt on political rivals?



Lol, "make up dirt"



"make up" or "provide", either way you wish.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?


[repeat of right wing conspiracy theory, evading answering]

Not really an honest answer. My general working theory is that self-identified conservatives aren't honest. Not answering good faith, honest questions tend to support that.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[Winehole23]

There was a time when you were one of the better posters because you gave your perspective and were willing to say I don't know. Now you feign being an internet expert on everything and always right. What happened Whinehole, did you come to believe you were going to win something on the internet?
I don't think I'm going to win anything.

Pointing out the weakness of your contribution to this thread isn't the same as insisting whatever I said is right.

You're smart enough to see that, I think. You got the Ukraine timeline wrong, why not take your lumps in humility like a mensch?

[Winehole23]

Interesting

1177689253070934016Trumplandia deep state conspiring against Trump.

Very interesting.

[Pavlov]

Dems are changing their talking points daily.

I don't know why you guys are pretending you're lawyers or pretending this is a legal proceeding. Impeachment is a purely political procedure by design. An impeachable offense is whatever the house says it is. I believe it was Gingrich who when asked why are you impeaching answered "because we can".

So I've only been making two points...

First, I'll believe Dems are actually moving forward with impeachment when they take a floor vote and put their vulnerable members on record. Until then I'll believe they are just hanging the impeachment carrot in front of the base as they have been doing since Trump took office.

Second, I think Dems are losing the public relations battle to get enough support in the country to make impeachment politically beneficial. I could be wrong. This is the only thing Pelosi is trying to figure out now.https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/impeachment-inquiry.jpg

Of course I'll wait for more traditional polls in the coming days, but it doesn't look like the Democrats need much PR at all.

[RandomGuy]

1st time
Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?


Did that happen?

and why do you keep asking me questions unrelated to what I post?




Just want to see what your tolerance for abuse of power/office is.

It is too difficult a question for you? It is pretty easy for me.

2nd time.
Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?


Again, did that happen? I haven't seen clear evidence. Let's see what comes forward. Case looks weak at the moment.

Is it ok for a President to ask a foreign government to investigate possible corruption in their country?


Yes, it happened.
Yes, it is ok for a President ask a foreign government to investigate possible corruption in their country.

My question was simply a general one, as yours is.

3rd time
Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[responds to Winehole a couple of times]

4th time
My general working theory is that self-identified conservatives aren't honest. Not answering good faith, honest questions tend to support that.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[baseline bum]

If the public gets on board, the GOP could cave. Trump continually melting down may not help him in this regard.

Trump's base will never ditch him, and anyone who goes against him in the GOP is done in a primary.

[Pavlov]

Trump's base will never ditch him, and anyone who goes against him in the GOP is done in a primary.Mitt would survive, but otherwise it would have to be someone on the way out or out of office. They would still lose, but the right guy could be effective.

[vy65]

Interesting

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The IC amended 50 U.S.C. § 3033(k)(5) on their own?

[Winehole23]

Trump's base will never ditch him, and anyone who goes against him in the GOP is done in a primary.You’re probably right, but the political calculus could change. Never underestimate the survival instinct.

Trump isn’t as well liked as stalwart GOP Ongressional support would seem to indicate.

[RandomGuy]

Trump's base will never ditch him, and anyone who goes against him in the GOP is done in a primary.

Agreed on both items.

They have chosen the hill to die on.

My take:

A president can be removed if this Congress determines that the president's conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in his/her role, because impeachment is not about punishment.
Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office of the Presidency.

[Pavlov]

Interesting

1177689253070934016Why?

The IG found the claim credible.

You deal only in conspiracy theories, Darrin.

[DarrinS]

The IC amended 50 U.S.C. § 3033(k)(5) on their own?

New form

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/09242019-DCUG-ICIG-DNI.jpg






Old form

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/05242018-DUCF-ICIG-DNI.jpg

[Winehole23]

Interviewing witnesses and putting it in a report is hearsay.

Hearsay!

[baseline bum]

You’re probably right, but the political calculus could change. Never underestimate the survival instinct.

Trump isn’t as well liked as stalwart GOP Ongressional support would seem to indicate.

Trump's not liked at all by his party, but he is loved by his party's voters. His party pretends they're a conservative party but his voters know they're really a white identity party.

[Pavlov]

New form

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/09242019-DCUG-ICIG-DNI.jpg






Old form

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/05242018-DUCF-ICIG-DNI.jpgWhat's your conspiracy theory this time, Darrin?

Step up.

[Winehole23]

Interviewing witnesses and putting it in a report is hearsay.

Hearsay!The policeman didn’t see the crime, his report is corrupt!

[vy65]

New form

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/09242019-DCUG-ICIG-DNI.jpg






Old form

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/05242018-DUCF-ICIG-DNI.jpg

Yeah, my eyes work.

You realize that "first hand knowledge" is not a statutory requirement - and congress left it to the ICIG to make determinations of credibility.

[RandomGuy]

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments to make up dirt on political rivals?



Lol, "make up dirt"



"make up" or "provide", either way you wish.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?


[repeat of right wing conspiracy theory, evading answering]


Not really an honest answer. My general working theory is that self-identified conservatives aren't honest. Not answering good faith, honest questions tend to support that.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?


[pictures from the federalist about a bureaucratic form]

My general working theory is that self-identified conservatives aren't honest. Not answering good faith, honest questions tend to support that.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[Spurminator]

What's your conspiracy theory this time, Darrin?

Step up.

LOL becoming Deep State truther because you hate the libs

[RandomGuy]

It's almost like there is some sort of pattern here.

[DarrinS]

Yeah, my eyes work.

You realize that "first hand knowledge" is not a statutory requirement


It doesn't appear to be a requirement as of the latest revision of that form

[vy65]

It doesn't appear to be a requirement as of the latest revision of that form

What do you think takes precedence - a form or an enabling statute?

[Winehole23]

It doesn't appear to be a requirement as of the latest revision of that formwhat’s your hypothesis about that?

how is it interesting?

[Pavlov]

It doesn't appear to be a requirement as of the latest revision of that formWas it ever required by law, Darrin?

Yes or no.


Also still waiting on your conspiracy theory.

[SnakeBoy]

You're smart enough to see that, I think. You got the Ukraine timeline wrong, why not take your lumps in humility like a mensch?

I didn't even mention the Ukraine timeline.

[Winehole23]

I didn't even mention the Ukraine timeline.You’re being coy.

In another thread a few hours ago you said the House Judiciary Commitee voted money for an investigation before they knew what they were investigating.

You were mistaken about that.

[Winehole23]

Goes to talking out your ass.

[ducks]

Interesting

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Yeah why secretly makes you think this was planned. We must stop trump we will secretly change rules then get him

[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[gambit1990]

shit is actually getting real... fantastic.

[ducks]

shit is actually getting real... fantastic.

No hope besting trump at ballot box huh

[ducks]

Brad Parscale
@parscale
Wow! 50,000 new donors in two days... and growing.
realDonaldTrump
supporters are showing up big league.

[ducks]

Eric Trump EricTrump
A BIG thank you to SpeakerPelosi
and the Democrats - in the last 48 hours we have raised $8.5 million dollars in small dollar donations. People are sick of your nonsense but please keep it up — you are handing realDonaldTrump
the win in 2020!

[LkrFan]

Veddy veddy interesting
https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1177726955736768513?s=19

He's gonna sang like Michael Cohen :lol

[LkrFan]

Eric Trump EricTrump
A BIG thank you to SpeakerPelosi
and the Democrats - in the last 48 hours we have raised $8.5 million dollars in small dollar donations. People are sick of your nonsense but please keep it up — you are handing realDonaldTrump
the win in 2020!

Quoting Eric Dump? :lol

[gambit1990]

No hope besting trump at ballot box huh
he would get beat. but doesn’t deserve to still be president by then.

[ducks]

Longtime U.S. intelligence official Fred Fleitz has accused the “so-called whistleblower” who complained about President Donald Trump’s call with the Ukrainian president of “pursuing a political agenda.”

In an opinion piece published by The New York Post on Thursday, Fleitz, the former chief of staff of the National Security Council, wrote that he is “troubled by the complaint,” which was recently declassified, “and wonder[s] how an intelligence officer could file it over something a president said to a foreign leader. How could this be an intelligence matter?”
Fleitz questions the “legalistic” references in the complaint, and notes that “such an extremely polished whistleblowing complaint is unheard of,” and proposes that the writer might have had help “from congressional members or staff.”

He goes on to claim “it looks like more than a coincidence” that Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., tweeted a complaint about Trump’s using aid to Ukraine to hurt former Vice President Joe Biden about a month ago.

“Also very concerning to me is how the complaint indicates intelligence officers and possibly other federal employees are violating the rules governing presidential phone calls with foreign leaders,” Fleitz adds.

“The content and transcripts of these calls are highly restricted. The whistleblower makes clear in his complaint that he did not listen to a call in question, nor did he read the transcript — he was told about the call by others. If true, intelligence officers have grossly violated the rules as well as the trust placed on them to protect this sensitive information.”

[ducks]

he would get beat. but doesn’t deserve to still be president by then.


Says who ?
Nancy has not the balls to even vote on impeachment procudure

[ducks]

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[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1177732882330263558?s=19

[ducks]

Between 2009 and 2013, including when Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state, the Clinton Foundation received at least $8.6 million from the Victor Pinchuk Foundation, according to that foundation, which is based in Kiev, Ukraine. It was created by Mr. Pinchuk, whose fortune stems from a pipe-making company. He served two terms as an elected member of the Ukrainian Parliament and is a proponent of closer ties between Ukraine and the European Union.
Which brings us back to Serhiy Leshchenko, Ukraine’s unabashed Clinton backer. And whaddya know — besides serving the government in Kiev and providing scintillating geopolitical analysis, Leshchenko had a side job: he was a source for…wait for it…Fusion GPS — the Clinton campaign-opposition arm, led by Glenn Simpson, which later dreamed up the Steele dossier.

[ducks]

President Trump received MORE votes than Bill Clinton did in 1992.

The Clinton Foundation - net worth 1/2 Billion Dollars. Annual "donations" to the organization was 142-million before Hillary lost. Chelsea Clinton's salary is almost 1-million per yet but no one know what she does.

[ducks]

Bill Clinton was paid $100,000 to give a single speech in Moscow while Hillary was Secretary of State.

[ducks]

What did the Clintons do with the $4million donated to the Clinton Global Initiative by Jeffrey Epstein? Its a documented donation...what did they get in return. No one donates the much without a motive.

[ducks]

Hillary was proven by the FBI to have committed multiple federal crimes. But Comey wouldn't recommend prosecution. And, even though she was proven by Comey to have committed most of these crimes as the SOS. Many people still voted for her for president knowing this. But, bottom line Hillary should do herself a favor and keep a low profile I don' think the statue of limitations has been reached on a lot of her crimes. She needs to be charged and tried for her crimes.

[ducks]

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story


https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story

[ducks]

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden's campaign says President Donald Trump's misleading new television ad is proof that Trump is "in a panic" and knows Biden "would beat him like a drum."

Biden's 2020 campaign issued a statement Friday responding to news that Trump and the Republican National Committee are spending $10 million on an ad focused on the former vice president's work fighting corruption in Ukraine. The ad comes as Trump fends off an impeachment probe by House Democrats after a whistleblower's complaint accused Trump of repeatedly pressing Ukraine's leaders to investigate Biden and his son Hunter.

The ad highlights Biden's efforts to make U.S. aid to Ukraine contingent on that country firing its chief prosecutor and claims that the fired prosecutor was investigating Hunter Biden. It also accuses Democrats of trying to "steal the 2020 election" by impeaching Trump.

[ducks]

Cry me a river biden

[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[Trill Clinton]

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[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[pgardn]

ducks

Trump president, not Clinton.
You have had a nervous breakdown.

[ducks]

: Donald Trump Jr. would be treated differently than Hunter Biden in Ukraine case

[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[ducks]

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[ducks]

Leaks are against law but media keeps publishing them

[pgardn]

Leaks are against law but media keeps publishing them

There are laws to protect whistleblowers ducks.

I guess you would have liked the idea that Nixon ordered the breakin of democratic headquarters and it never got revealed. If this goes the other way, and a blue team megalomaniac gets into office, you may have to retreat back to Asia.
You can blame your undying love for a crook.

[ducks]

Leaks are notnwhislteblowers

[ElNono]

Link's Awakening is where it's at right now tbh

I heard... I'm gonna play it during the holidays

[pgardn]

Leaks are notnwhislteblowers

Very good ducks.

So Why did Trump say he had conversation with the president of another country to investigate Biden?

Because a whistleblower had the goods. It was going to come out ducks, and the orange ball of confusion went ahead and implicated himself. But there is more to come ducks. Because the leaks will be flowing once a leaker President has his underlings start leaking on him. No honor among thieves and liars. You need to learn this. It’s happened before. This president by his own actions of self promotion has drawn the press to him. He wants attention, he gets attention.

The plane has hit the side of the mountain. But it’s not been fully reported yet. Get ready for some bad news my foul fowl.

[ElNono]

You are just making shit up now :lol

"I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible."

Am I? Here's my post properly quoted. Apparently you conveniently omitted some of it:


The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it: As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.

The President: Good because I’heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what’s happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.


You asked for the transcript, there's the transcript. And yes, those two sentences by the President are one after the other in the actual transcript release by the White House.

You're just not serious dude. :lol

This better be a troll job, because nobody sane is this stupid or goes through that amount of mental gymnastics...

[ElNono]

April Doss, who served as senior minority counsel for the Russia investigation on the Senate Intelligence Committee and, prior to that, as a top attorney at the National Security Agency, said the S//OC//NF designation of the memo “seems like a typical level of classification for that kind of call.”

That classification indicates that the disclosure of the call would cause "serious damage" to national security, cannot be disseminated by anyone except the originator, and is prohibited from disclosure to foreign nationals. A code word classification, meanwhile, is top secret—a level higher than secret—and then further compartmentalized by adding a code word so that only those who have been cleared for each code word can see it.

Doss said it would be “highly unusual” for this kind of routine call between world leaders to be placed into a system that’s used for information about the nation’s most highly compartmented programs. “It risks undermining a whole host of important national security activities,” she said, noting that “most if not all” officials who would need to have access to call readouts as part of carrying out their regular duties in advising on foreign affairs and implementing the administration’s policies “would not have access” to the codeword system.

Exactly. That system is specifically suited to classify natsec documents, not political and legal fuckups by Presidents.

Obviously, this comes from the same people that still think you need criminal conduct, in the legal sense, to impeach a President, so don't hold your breath.

[ElNono]

THIS IS AWESOME! He made a VIDEO and he's PAYING TV Networks to PLAY IT in their PROGRAMMING!!

WOW :cheer

:rollin

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[ducks]

McMaster says Trump's talks with Russia were 'wholly appropriate,' won't say if information was classified
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/05/16/mcmaster-stands-by-earlier-statement-says-trump-never-put-national-security-at-risk.html?__twitter_impression=true

[ducks]

Republicans see impeachment backfiring. Democrats fear they may be right

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-see-impeachment-backfiring-democrats-230222466.html

[ducks]

I am a 72 year old retired educator. There have been many presidents who have passed through out history in that time, but I have never seen the media outlets out to destroy a presidency such as the target that Trump has become. I can watch a live statement by Trump, and by the evening news, you wouldn't even recognize that it was the same content. I am almost to the point that I can hardly watch the news, read a newspaper or follow the internet. Yes, Trump has an unconventional way of expressing himself at times, but Trump is just what he is and says what he honestly thinks. I had much rather have this than past presidents who have spent their time kissing up to the public. Our country has come for far during the Trump administration, but we Americans have not been able to enjoy and celebrate that with the constant barrage from the media. What happened to unbiased reporters such as Walter Cronkite who reported the news in his unbiased way. Lester Hold could sure use his example. You go TRUMP. The democrats have tried to destroy you from day one, but there a millions of us Americans who are smart enough to seek the truth.

[ducks]

Republicans have offered multiple election security bills that would secure and punish those who attempt to hack into voting systems. Democrats must bring these bills up for votes, or Congress will miss a chance to safeguard our democracy

[ducks]

Kenneth P. Vogel Kenvogel
The Ukrainians weren't made aware that the assistance was being delayed/reviewed until more than one month after the call.
Quote Tweet

Rick Tyler Rickwtyler
· Sep 25
The call makes no sense. Why would the $400 million in withheld critically-needed military aid not be the top priority of the call? It’s inexplicable. The only rational explanation is President Zelensky understood it was being used

[ducks]

Eric Trump EricTrump
UPDATE: We have now raised almost $15 million in small dollar donations (including 50,000 NEW donors) since SpeakerPelosi
started this impeachment charade 72 hrs ago! Unbelievable numbers!! Keep it going — you and the dems are handing realDonaldTrump
the win in 2020

[ducks]

More than 1 MILLION Latinas have entered the workforce since President realDonaldTrump
took office.

Hispanic American unemployment is the lowest EVER in our country.

Hispanic Americans are winning like never before

[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[Winehole23]

1177773753230675968Trump’s embarrassing and incriminating readouts — to say nothing of his casual maladministration — is a matter of national security that must be hidden from voters and their representatives.

[Winehole23]

Trump's not liked at all by his party, but he is loved by his party's voters. His party pretends they're a conservative party but his voters know they're really a white identity party.The GOP knows this too and it scares the shit out of some of them.

But agreed, they’ve mostly made peace with this. Even Reagan didn’t go that far, tbh.

[pgardn]

Trump is upset that Schiff mocked him.

Poor baby can’t take his own medicine.

[pgardn]

I am a 72 year old retired educator. There have been many presidents who have passed through out history in that time, but I have never seen the media outlets out to destroy a presidency such as the target that Trump has become. I can watch a live statement by Trump, and by the evening news, you wouldn't even recognize that it was the same content. I am almost to the point that I can hardly watch the news, read a newspaper or follow the internet. Yes, Trump has an unconventional way of expressing himself at times, but Trump is just what he is and says what he honestly thinks. I had much rather have this than past presidents who have spent their time kissing up to the public. Our country has come for far during the Trump administration, but we Americans have not been able to enjoy and celebrate that with the constant barrage from the media. What happened to unbiased reporters such as Walter Cronkite who reported the news in his unbiased way. Lester Hold could sure use his example. You go TRUMP. The democrats have tried to destroy you from day one, but there a millions of us Americans who are smart enough to seek the truth.

Unconventional.... Trump is unconventional.

Trump invites the press to follow him by constantly tweeting lies and then pushing the boundaries of the president-dictator role and some 72 year old calls him unconventional. Go grab some pussy because you can, hows that for unconventional?