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Trill Clinton
09-24-2019, 12:24 PM
https://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/8/bb5f51777248e1ba56bd089bedde14f4.gif?t=1500657016

1176539782861729792

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Spurs Homer
09-24-2019, 12:25 PM
Took fucking long enough


criminal traitor has been impeachable since 1/20/17

SnakeBoy
09-24-2019, 12:33 PM
This thread will be a fun one to watch unfold

I predict it will end with

https://media.giphy.com/media/Yf753zhyaRq0w/giphy.gif

Chris
09-24-2019, 12:42 PM
Nothing will happen. Trill will start 20 more threads that have already been discussed and avoid posting in them besides the OP. Hell, there is a 15 page Donald Trump impeachment thread already.

boutons_deux
09-24-2019, 12:44 PM
Took fucking long enough


Mueller handed Pelosi hard evidence of Trash's multiple obstruction acts. Fuck Pelosi. She needs to retire.

Quadzilla99
09-24-2019, 12:59 PM
Won't get 1 Republican vote in the senate. Waste of time.

boutons_deux
09-24-2019, 01:03 PM
Now we'll see what Dems put into their Articles of Impeachment

Impeach Trump. But don’t necessarily try him in the Senate.

But to think of the House of Representatives as akin to a prosecutor or grand jury is misguided.

The Constitution’s design suggests a quite different allocation of functions:

The Senate, unlike any petit (or trial) jury, is legally free to engage in politics in arriving at its verdict.

And the House, unlike any grand jury, can conduct an impeachment inquiry that

ends with a verdict and

not just a referral to the Senate for trial —

an inquiry in which the target is afforded an opportunity to participate and mount a full defense.

It seems fair to surmise, then, that an impeachment inquiry conducted with ample opportunity for the accused to defend himself before a vote by the full House

would be at least substantially protected, even if not entirely bullet-proofed, against a Senate whitewash.

The House, assuming an impeachment inquiry leads to a conclusion of Trump’s guilt, could choose between

presenting articles of impeachment even to a Senate pre-committed to burying them and dispensing with impeachment as such

while embodying its conclusions of criminality or other grave wrongdoing

in a condemnatory “Sense of the House” resolution

far stronger than a mere censure.

the idea would be to build into the very design of this particular inquiry

an offramp that would make bypassing the Senate an option

while also nourishing the hope that a public fully educated about what this president did

would make even a Senate beholden to this president and manifestly lacking in political courage willing to bite the bullet and remove him.

By resolving now to pursue such a path ..., the House would be doing the right thing as a constitutional matter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/impeach-trump-but-dont-necessarily-try-him-in-the-senate/2019/06/05/22d83672-87bc-11e9-a870-b9c411dc4312_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/impeach-trump-but-dont-necessarily-try-him-in-the-senate/2019/06/05/22d83672-87bc-11e9-a870-b9c411dc4312_story.html)

The Dems could also CENSURE Barr for his lying 4-pager, and

separate censures for any other shit that Trash and Barr have committed.

But Pelose and other senior Dems won't do shit.

My guess is that a few House Repugs retiring as fed up with Trash and knowing the House will be Dem after 2020, will also vote to convict Trash since he could not punish them.

Trill Clinton
09-24-2019, 01:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/dTcAHZc.jpg

AaronY
09-24-2019, 01:09 PM
Mueller handed Pelosi hard evidence of Trash's multiple obstruction acts. Fuck Pelosi. She needs to retire.
:cry muh Russia :cry

Spurs Homer
09-24-2019, 01:10 PM
Mueller handed Pelosi hard evidence of Trash's multiple obstruction acts. Fuck Pelosi. She needs to retire.

helsinki alone would have gotten obama publicly lynched from the white house lawn

someday history will show - and no one will believe or understand why the american people witnessed -with their own eyes and ears-

an american president stand in front of the world and respond to a reporters direct question that he in fact

believes and supports russias side

over his own usa intelligence who unanimously concluded that russia attacked the usa

in front of the world he sided with our arch enemy


and americans did nothing about this betrayal

DC23
09-24-2019, 01:15 PM
What exactly are we watching for?:lmao

DarrinS
09-24-2019, 01:34 PM
1176559966024556544

DarrinS
09-24-2019, 01:35 PM
1176559970390806530

Pavlov
09-24-2019, 01:39 PM
1176559966024556544Which conversation?

There were eight.

Do you, Darrin, see anything at all potentially wrong with what Trump said he did RE: withholding aid to Ukraine?

Yes or no.

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 01:54 PM
Which conversation?

There were eight.

Do you, Darrin, see anything at all potentially wrong with what Trump said he did RE: withholding aid to Ukraine?

Yes or no.

He won't answer that (truthfully anyway) :lol

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 01:55 PM
https://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/8/bb5f51777248e1ba56bd089bedde14f4.gif?t=1500657016

1176539782861729792

1176531664178155520

Let's do this! :lol

hater
09-24-2019, 02:07 PM
:lmao :lmao this shit show is gonna end the same way 2016 election night ended

With snowflakes, manginas and shillarytards crying their eyes off :lmao

:lol

This will be beautiful to watch

Will make the Kavanaughty asskicking like a walk in the park :lol

hater
09-24-2019, 02:10 PM
:tu Tulsi

https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1176507038832254977?s=19

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 02:12 PM
:tu Tulsi

https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1176507038832254977?s=19

We're divided due to the Orange menace in the WH. Her saying that is a paid advertisement for David Dennison :lol

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 02:16 PM
Won't get 1 Republican vote in the senate. Waste of time.

You're playing checkers. The Republicans that don't do nothing will be on record. This will be used against them. Remember, many of them are up for re-election in 2020.

The only reason why David is a free man is because the Republican Senators are protecting him. What do you think will happen when the Senate turns Blue in 2020?

Quadzilla99
09-24-2019, 02:24 PM
You're playing checkers. The Republicans that don't do nothing will be on record. This will be used against them. Remember, many of them are up for re-election in 2020.

The only reason why David is a free man is because the Republican Senators are protecting him. What do you think will happen when the Senate turns Blue in 2020?

Lmao he'll be out of office of the Dems get the senate. If I'm playing checkers you're playing peekaboo or whatever it is toddlers are playing these days

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 02:30 PM
Lmao he'll be out of office of the Dems get the senate. If I'm playing checkers you're playing peekaboo or whatever it is toddlers are playing these days

There is no law that says a President can't be indicted, but Barr is acting as if it is law to protect him.

He absolutely can and will be indicted when he is out of office and he knows it.

That's why he sent Rudy to Ukraine. He's desperate to do whatever he can to stay in office. He's pathetic tbh :lol

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 02:52 PM
Here's a good read for when you're taking a shit
https://twitter.com/jadande/status/1176583845073870850?s=19

:lol

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 02:57 PM
https://twitter.com/AmandiOnAir/status/1176574421965910021?s=19

ducks
09-24-2019, 02:58 PM
Which conversation?

There were eight.

Do you, Darrin, see anything at all potentially wrong with what Trump said he did RE: withholding aid to Ukraine?

Yes or no.
Nope one
And he supposedly asked 8 times according to someone that heard someone say that

Pavlov
09-24-2019, 03:00 PM
Nope one
And he supposedly asked 8 times according to someone that heard someone say thatSo he's going to release the whistleblower complaint as well, right?

Complete transparency!

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 03:05 PM
https://twitter.com/TheView/status/1176587864836063235?s=19

Smoking Joe Biden dropping truth bombs :lol

Spurminator
09-24-2019, 03:08 PM
1176559966024556544


1176559970390806530

lol Donald Trump as reliable source

Pavlov
09-24-2019, 03:08 PM
That's the best Joe looked in a long time. Must be using incandescent light bulbs.

Spurminator
09-24-2019, 03:13 PM
Entirely possible nothing will come of it, but it's the right thing to do.

Power has to be held to account, even if there are political risks. There are political risks to doing nothing, too. "Wait until the election and let the people decide based on incomplete information" is not a precedent we should be setting.

vy65
09-24-2019, 03:21 PM
Entirely possible nothing will come of it, but it's the right thing to do.

Power has to be held to account, even if there are political risks. There are political risks to doing nothing, too. "Wait until the election and let the people decide based on incomplete information" is not a precedent we should be setting.

This is DOA in the senate, so I question how accountable the powers that be are going to be held.

Voting our bad administrations has always been the most effective way of holding them accountable.

Spurminator
09-24-2019, 03:47 PM
This is DOA in the senate, so I question how accountable the powers that be are going to be held.

Voting our bad administrations has always been the most effective way of holding them accountable.

You may be talking about removal, I'm just talking about formal proceedings. Trump's DOJ has already withheld information by protesting that the House has no right to it without a formal resolution. While I'm sure the Administration will continue to obstruct justice even with a resolution, that's on them and the public has a right to know how far they'll go to cover their own asses.

I agree removal is a pipe dream with the current Senate. A formal trial probably is as well, but I'd rather hold McConnell's feet to the fire and make him refuse to do so than never be given the choice.

Reck
09-24-2019, 03:52 PM
Whether the Republicans vote on it or not its not the point. Trump has committed enough impeacheable offenses to go for days. If you dont at least try to hold him accountable on your side then you're just as bad as the do nothing republicans.

If Trump kills somebody, then I guess they shouldn't try to do an impeachment because the Rs won't vote on it? Grade A logic.

Reck
09-24-2019, 03:55 PM
https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1176564220407767042

Spurs Homer
09-24-2019, 04:01 PM
“Impeachment will divide the country”

gtfo of here with that shit

the criminal who continues to commit crimes from the oval office

and his racist traitor supporters who turned their backs on the usa and on the rule of law

are what already divided this country

russia laid down this course knowing full well that at least 40% of americans were stupid racist scum who were
already triggered by black president and would support criminality and treason

as long as the criminal president was white


that is what divided this country


that is how history will read

that is what scumbags like qhris, ducks, tsa, hater, et al
did when their country needed them - they defended the traitor con man criminal

that is what the entire GOP did

and they


will
ALL profusely deny doing that when the dust settles

TSA
09-24-2019, 04:30 PM
These threads are great because I can just come to one place to see all the dems crying and whining once the latest hope blows up in their face.

hater
09-24-2019, 04:31 PM
Entirely possible nothing will come of it, but it's the right thing to do.

Power has to be held to account, even if there are political risks. There are political risks to doing nothing, too. "Wait until the election and let the people decide based on incomplete information" is not a precedent we should be setting.

It's a stupid strategy as it will anger 99 percent of repubs and not excite any liberals or progressives at all. It also won't excite black or browns. Latest polls show very small % of Americans are interested in impeahing Trump.

All this shit show is gonna do is help Trump get reelected :lmao

Reck
09-24-2019, 04:33 PM
These threads are great because I can just come to one place to see all the dems crying and whining once the latest hope blows up in their face.

McCabe indicted yet? How's the hangover going?

TSA
09-24-2019, 04:36 PM
McCabe indicted yet? How's the hangover going?


Forum dunce can't even whatabout correctly :rollin

hater
09-24-2019, 04:37 PM
:lmao only 37% of Americans want to impeach :lmao

The egg on the demoretards face after this will be fucking epic :lmao

TheGreatYacht
09-24-2019, 04:37 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1176609164770054145

Reck
09-24-2019, 04:38 PM
Forum dunce can't even whatabout correctly :rollin

I wasn't trying to do whataboutism. I was just asking you the question here since the only place you post in is the Flynn thread for some reason.

TheGreatYacht
09-24-2019, 04:40 PM
Good job Dems. Now we have another 4 years of Trump. Democrats and their Demotard followers :lmao

TSA
09-24-2019, 04:45 PM
I wasn't trying to do whataboutism. I was just asking you the question here since the only place you post in is the Flynn thread for some reason.

:lol trying to whatabout

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 04:50 PM
https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1176610936523825152?s=19

:rollin :lmao :rollin

Reck
09-24-2019, 04:51 PM
Good job Dems. Now we have another 4 years of Trump. Democrats and their Demotard followers :lmao

Dont you watch TYT and Kulinski? They want to impeach Trump just as bad. Have wanted that since he took office. :lol

Pick a lane.

TSA
09-24-2019, 04:54 PM
Whether the Republicans vote on it or not its not the point. Trump has committed enough impeacheable offenses to go for days. If you dont at least try to hold him accountable on your side then you're just as bad as the do nothing republicans.

If Trump kills somebody, then I guess they shouldn't try to do an impeachment because the Rs won't vote on it? Grade A logic.

Making a murderer go through a political trial. Forum dunce logic.

Reck
09-24-2019, 04:57 PM
Making a murderer go through a political trial. Forum dunce logic.

He'd have to get impeached before he could get indicted. Only reason why your God is still in office right now. :lol

Mueller's report said he was guilty and didn't indict because of DOJ policy. How many times do you have to be told this?

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 04:58 PM
https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1176608304673579016?s=19

Spurminator
09-24-2019, 05:02 PM
:lmao only 37% of Americans want to impeach :lmao

The egg on the demoretards face after this will be fucking epic :lmao

You're right, impeachment is a wedge issue and liberals who don't favor impeachment are definitely going to vote Republican next election. :tu

Spurminator
09-24-2019, 05:03 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1176609164770054145

Breitbart is a Zionist site, bro. Be careful.

Spurminator
09-24-2019, 05:04 PM
not excite any liberals or progressives at all


37% of Americans want to impeach

Math checks out.

TSA
09-24-2019, 05:10 PM
He'd have to get impeached before he could get indicted. Only reason why your God is still in office right now. :lol

Mueller's report said he was guilty and didn't indict because of DOJ policy. How many times do you have to be told this?

:rollin

“I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by [Representative Ted] Lieu who said, and I quote, ‘You didn’t charge the President because of the [Office of Legal Counsel] opinion.’ That is not the correct way to say it,” Mueller said. “As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime.”


:cry guys you have to impeach the murderer first :cry

hater
09-24-2019, 05:11 PM
my terrible Math checks out.
Fify

Good luck winning an election at 30 pct :lol

vy65
09-24-2019, 05:13 PM
Whether the Republicans vote on it or not its not the point. Trump has committed enough impeacheable offenses to go for days. If you dont at least try to hold him accountable on your side then you're just as bad as the do nothing republicans.

If Trump kills somebody, then I guess they shouldn't try to do an impeachment because the Rs won't vote on it? Grade A logic.

If the senate won't hold a trial, how are articles of impeachment in the house going to hold him accountable? If anything, it gives DJT another talking point on the campaign trail. Impeachment isn't the only way of holding POTUS accountable.

vy65
09-24-2019, 05:15 PM
You may be talking about removal, I'm just talking about formal proceedings. Trump's DOJ has already withheld information by protesting that the House has no right to it without a formal resolution. While I'm sure the Administration will continue to obstruct justice even with a resolution, that's on them and the public has a right to know how far they'll go to cover their own asses.

I agree removal is a pipe dream with the current Senate. A formal trial probably is as well, but I'd rather hold McConnell's feet to the fire and make him refuse to do so than never be given the choice.

I was talking about removal - I don't see what value proceedings have, in and of themselves.

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 05:16 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1176616259854708736?s=19

Damn rightz :tu

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 05:19 PM
:lmao only 37% of Americans want to impeach :lmao

The egg on the demoretards face after this will be fucking epic :lmao

I'm American and did not participate in the poll. So technically there are more than 37% son. #BeBest :lol

Reck
09-24-2019, 05:21 PM
If the senate won't hold a trial, how are articles of impeachment in the house going to hold him accountable? If anything, it gives DJT another talking point on the campaign trail. Impeachment isn't the only way of holding POTUS accountable.

It does so by them doing their jobs when the maniac continues to do illegal shit? I see a lot of people thinking dems doing an impeachment hearing would benefit Trump because it benefited Clinton back in the day. What they dont realize is Clinton got impeached for getting it on with a woman who was also willing to suck some dick.

Trump has it far worse because the things he's done actually involve criminality and in more than one instance.

What are the other ways to hold him accountable? Voting him out? In the meantime Trump can just continue to break the law for another year. Let him deal with the PR disaster with an impeachment inquiry.

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 05:21 PM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1176611828891303937?s=19

44 was NEVER impeached! BAAAAAAHHHAAHAHA!!! :rollin :lmao:rollin

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 05:24 PM
The Orange limp dick Mysogynist is gonna get impeached by a WOMAN
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1176611920914370562?s=19

Leroy gonna grab him by the pussy in the slammer. He bet not drop the soap!! :rollin :lmao :rollin

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 05:28 PM
https://twitter.com/tonyposnanski/status/1176618312781971457?s=19
:lol

vy65
09-24-2019, 05:30 PM
It does so by them doing their jobs when the maniac continues to do illegal shit? I see a lot of people thinking dems doing an impeachment hearing would benefit Trump because it benefited Clinton back in the day. What they dont realize is Clinton got impeached for getting it on with a woman who was also willing to suck some dick.

Trump has it far worse because the things he's done actually involve criminality and in more than one instance.

What are the other ways to hold him accountable? Voting him out? In the meantime Trump can just continue to break the law for another year. Let him deal with the PR disaster with an impeachment inquiry.

This doesn’t answer the question. It’s a foregone conclusion that 2/3 of the senate won’t vote to remove. It’s not even likely they’ll hold a trial. Do you think Pelosi et al are going to deter him from doing illegal shit? Mueller investigated him for 2 years and he still colluded with the Ukraine.

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 05:31 PM
This isn't much of a ringing endorsement from #MoscowMitch
https://twitter.com/GregShugar/status/1176621353799245825?s=19

ducks
09-24-2019, 05:33 PM
Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
·
9m
Secretary of State Pompeo recieved permission from Ukraine Government to release the transcript of the telephone call I had with their President. They don’t know either what the big deal is. A total Witch Hunt Scam by the Democrats!

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 05:35 PM
Look at what is trending: #ImpeachTrump
https://media2.giphy.com/media/8PBfNDoySmsRc49P4F/giphy.gif

:lol

ducks
09-24-2019, 05:35 PM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1176611828891303937?s=19

44 was NEVER impeached! BAAAAAAHHHAAHAHA!!! :rollin :lmao:rollin


45 will be either
Clinton was

ducks
09-24-2019, 05:36 PM
Trump should fund raise off this

Reck
09-24-2019, 05:36 PM
This doesn’t answer the question. It’s a foregone conclusion that 2/3 of the senate won’t vote to remove. It’s not even likely they’ll hold a trial. Do you think Pelosi et al are going to deter him from doing illegal shit? Mueller investigated him for 2 years and he still colluded with the Ukraine.

Not necessarily dissagreeing with you on republicans not going for impeachment but what is the alternative? This guy's admin won't even comply with the basics anymore. Ignores subpoenas, ignores guidelines when it comes to handing documents to congress etc.

Dems have some sort of control in one side, use it.

Something's gotta give.

Sheriff Hoyt
09-24-2019, 05:36 PM
1176619784965935106

ducks
09-24-2019, 05:37 PM
Congress job is to help America
Not investigate trump for 3 years
Mueller already has
This is 2019 not 2016
Clinton
Got her
Pussy
Whipped
By
Trump

ducks
09-24-2019, 05:38 PM
Name one as a fact Trump has committed a crime worthy of impeachment while in office

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 05:39 PM
https://twitter.com/maddow/status/1176626399408529408?s=19

ducks
09-24-2019, 05:39 PM
Waiting

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 05:40 PM
45 will be either
Clinton was

44's personal attorney is a free man too. :lmao

ducks
09-24-2019, 05:41 PM
https://twitter.com/tonyposnanski/status/1176618312781971457?s=19
:lol

I bet it did not think trump would even come close at being president

ducks
09-24-2019, 05:42 PM
So he's going to release the whistleblower complaint as well, right?

Complete transparency!

Why it is hearsay
The call is what people here
Anyone can say that is not what was on the call

vy65
09-24-2019, 05:45 PM
Not necessarily dissagreeing with you on republicans not going for impeachment but what is the alternative? This guy's admin won't even comply with the basics anymore. Ignores subpoenas, ignores guidelines when it comes to handing documents to congress etc.

Dems have some sort of control in one side, use it.

Something's gotta give.

The alternative is to not blow your wad now and give the GOP/DJT fuel for the campaign trail.

spurraider21
09-24-2019, 05:46 PM
1176619784965935106
:lol

SnakeBoy
09-24-2019, 05:47 PM
:lol So are libs officially excited about Pelosi's fake "official" impeachment inquiry

hater
09-24-2019, 05:49 PM
:lol So are libs officially excited about Pelosi's fake "official" impeachment inquiry

:lol the memes after this epic fail by dems will be amazing

TSA
09-24-2019, 06:04 PM
:lol So are libs officially excited about Pelosi's fake "official" impeachment inquiry

:lol don’t spoil the fun. I want to see how many headlines get posted of Pelosi launching an impeachment inquiry with no vote.

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 06:06 PM
1176619784965935106

https://twitter.com/PetCobra/status/1176620074817355776?s=19

:lmao

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 06:07 PM
https://twitter.com/OMAROSA/status/1176633664144314369?s=19

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 06:09 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1176634174914080769?s=19

:wow

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 06:10 PM
https://twitter.com/AndrewBakaj/status/1176631269033201666?s=19

lefty
09-24-2019, 06:13 PM
So all this happens just after I left Twitter :lol

TSA
09-24-2019, 06:13 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176610391058722816

They walk into it every single time and never learn

DarrinS
09-24-2019, 06:21 PM
White House preparing to release whistleblower complaint to Congress
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/24/white-house-whistleblower-complaint-release-1510341

TSA
09-24-2019, 06:23 PM
White House preparing to release whistleblower complaint to Congress
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/24/white-house-whistleblower-complaint-release-1510341


They walk into it every single time and never learn

Pavlov
09-24-2019, 06:30 PM
What was the holdup? 87-D chess?

TSA
09-24-2019, 06:33 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1175431280613367810

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1176623289478893574

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1176598646852374528

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1176563642906624001

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1175796480801693696

poor fella Joe never had a chance

Reck
09-24-2019, 06:34 PM
:lol don’t spoil the fun. I want to see how many headlines get posted of Pelosi launching an impeachment inquiry with no vote.

Well this already is a positive sign. You and Hater have the same record of thread and post backfires so this is just gravy.

Pavlov
09-24-2019, 06:35 PM
:lol Trump War Room

TSA falls for it every time

Reck
09-24-2019, 06:35 PM
hold up. Trump's people tweet something about Biden. GOT 'HIM

DarrinS
09-24-2019, 06:40 PM
House Dems

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AssuredAcademicHorse-size_restricted.gif

TSA
09-24-2019, 06:41 PM
Well this already is a positive sign. You and Hater have the same record of thread and post backfires so this is just gravy.

Falling for the faux Trump-Ukraine scandal is stupider than falling for the faux Trump-Russia scandal. Your takes aren’t surprising.

Pavlov
09-24-2019, 06:42 PM
House Dems

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AssuredAcademicHorse-size_restricted.gifSo this is backfiring on the Dems because the DNI is actually following the law and giving Congress what they want and what he is legally obligated to give them?

Explain, Darrin.

Use your own words.

Trill Clinton
09-24-2019, 06:46 PM
:lol don’t spoil the fun. I want to see how many headlines get posted of Pelosi launching an impeachment inquiry with no vote.


check your pm fam

Reck
09-24-2019, 06:47 PM
Falling for the faux Trump-Ukraine scandal is stupider than falling for the faux Trump-Russia scandal. Your takes aren’t surprising.

Coming from someone who fell for the most retarded conspiracy ever this is something.

Spurminator
09-24-2019, 06:52 PM
Fify

Good luck winning an election at 30 pct :lol

Yes, I already acknowledged your fool-proof logic that impeachment is the single issue that will decide everyone's votes.

It's just like how Democrats keep winning every election thanks to 60+% of America favoring stricter gun laws.

Spurminator
09-24-2019, 06:54 PM
I was talking about removal - I don't see what value proceedings have, in and of themselves.

Transparency and precedent, imo.

TSA
09-24-2019, 07:00 PM
Coming from someone who fell for the most retarded conspiracy ever this is something.

Nothing in my lifetime will top the biggest debunked conspiracy theory the country has ever seen, and you fell for it.

:lmao Russiagate believers

TSA
09-24-2019, 07:01 PM
check your pm fam

I got you fam.

TSA
09-24-2019, 07:01 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mkraju/status/1176590580547276800

:lol

Reck
09-24-2019, 07:02 PM
You can always tell when TSA is losing it when he starts reposting stuff he's already posted with random emoticons attach to them.

baseline bum
09-24-2019, 07:03 PM
This isn't much of a ringing endorsement from #MoscowMitch
https://twitter.com/GregShugar/status/1176621353799245825?s=19

Mitch McConnell talking about reaching across party lines? :rollin

Mitch
09-24-2019, 07:12 PM
Pretty dumb move to try impeachment, tbh. Dems might not even fully back the effort.

hater
09-24-2019, 07:14 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176610391058722816

They walk into it every single time and never learn

They're like the fucking Coyote and Trump is beep beep :lol

MultiTroll
09-24-2019, 07:31 PM
zero real interest in helping US Citizen.

Time and resource wasting bitches.

Repugnatins did the same thing with Bill Clinton.

vy65
09-24-2019, 07:32 PM
Transparency and precedent, imo.

You raise an interesting point - is there stare decisis for prior impeachment decisions? I don’t think so.

For the record, I think he should be impeached. I just think it more important he’s gone in 2021

ducks
09-24-2019, 07:33 PM
Kimberley Strassel
✔ kimStrassel
Just to be clear: Democrats are moving forward (maybe) with impeachment on the basis of a complaint they have not seen, which describes a call for which they have not read a transcript.

hater
09-24-2019, 07:36 PM
Kimberley Strassel
✔ kimStrassel
Just to be clear: Democrats are moving forward (maybe) with impeachment on the basis of a complaint they have not seen, which describes a call for which they have not read a transcript.

:lmao

And the funny thing is the Russiagaters disaster was even worse :lmao

Steele Dossier :lol

ducks
09-24-2019, 07:39 PM
zero real interest in helping US Citizen.

Time and resource wasting bitches.

Repugnatins did the same thing with Bill Clinton.clinton committed a crime

ducks
09-24-2019, 07:40 PM
CNN's Jake Tapper questions if Ukraine call transcript can be trusted: Trump has 'falsified information before

Lol now the excuses already!

benefactor
09-24-2019, 07:43 PM
clinton committed a crime
Where is she incarcerated at ducks?

ducks
09-24-2019, 07:44 PM
Where is she incarcerated at ducks?

Bill Clinton committed a crime

ElNono
09-24-2019, 07:45 PM
CNN's Jake Tapper questions if Ukraine call transcript can be trusted: Trump has 'falsified information before

Lol now the excuses already!

Sharpie marks?

ducks
09-24-2019, 07:50 PM
Let’s see Bidens call transcript with Ukraine President and officials when he pressured the prosecutor that got fired

MultiTroll
09-24-2019, 07:51 PM
Bill Clinton committed a crime
STFU.
Didn't affect his ability to do his job one iota.

Now if he was porking underage with Epstein, then lock him in Guantanimo.

ducks
09-24-2019, 07:52 PM
So forcing a women above 18 in USA
Swiserland you adult at 15 is ok for you
Got it

ducks
09-24-2019, 07:53 PM
IF trump committed a crime then the transcript should be released. Unfortunately it is not a crime to ask a foreign power to investigate a political opponent. This happens all the time. And is most used by the democrat party.
But we can’t go and release transcripts of private conversations between the president of the United States and a foreign leader. People need to feel as if what they say won’t be public everytime they have a talk with our president.

ducks
09-24-2019, 07:54 PM
STFU.
Didn't affect his ability to do his job one iota.

Now if he was porking underage with Epstein, then lock him in Guantanimo.

If that was your daughter would you feel the same way ?

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 07:59 PM
https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/1176659647094300672?s=19

"The truth is not the truth damn it!"
Rudy, probably :lmao

ducks
09-24-2019, 08:01 PM
Attorney Representing Whistleblower Against Trump Worked For Hillary and Schumer

ducks
09-24-2019, 08:02 PM
Comey says he hopes Congress doesn't impeach Trump: It lets the American people 'off the hook'

MultiTroll
09-24-2019, 08:05 PM
So forcing a women above 18 in USA
Swiserland you adult at 15 is ok for you
Got it
Don't tell me you're part of the Straw Krew too. :lol:rolleyes

I feel very badly for Lewinski. Continuing to this day how she gets maligned by some.

Point is, Clinton should have been rebuked in private. Whole affair should have been handled privately. Business of running the country should have continued.

ducks
09-24-2019, 08:10 PM
Sure if that was your Daugher you would be ok with that

AaronY
09-24-2019, 08:11 PM
Comey says he hopes Congress doesn't impeach Trump: It lets the American people 'off the hook'
You a big fan of this Comey guy?

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 08:17 PM
Attorney Representing Whistleblower Against Trump Worked For Hillary and Schumer

Good! :lol

This too
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1176666297100308480?s=19

:wow

LkrFan
09-24-2019, 08:22 PM
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1176665844434296832?s=19

Colludy Rudy? :lmao

ducks
09-24-2019, 08:41 PM
Mueller report had witnesses nothing happened but $&$$$$&$&

ducks
09-24-2019, 08:50 PM
WH to release document showing intel community watchdog found whistleblower had 'political bias'

MultiTroll
09-24-2019, 08:57 PM
Sure if that was your Daugher you would be ok with that
Certainly not a media storm and nothing done at all after long, phony costly policatlly motivated investigation.
What would you want for your daughter?

What do you want for the women Trump porked out of wedlock all along? Grabbed by the pussy? What if that was your daughter. Or given your age, your mother?

TSA
09-24-2019, 09:11 PM
WH to release document showing intel community watchdog found whistleblower had 'political bias'

:lmao here’s the rake I’ve been talking about

ducks
09-24-2019, 09:13 PM
"It baffles the mind how many times Democrats are going to go down this road and keep walking into these massive left hooks from Donald Trump," said Gidley. "They keep setting themselves up with no evidence, pushing lies on the American people, only to be proven wrong time and time again

pgardn
09-24-2019, 09:28 PM
"It baffles the mind how many times Democrats are going to go down this road and keep walking into these massive left hooks from Donald Trump," said Gidley. "They keep setting themselves up with no evidence, pushing lies on the American people, only to be proven wrong time and time again

Trump lying about Russian interference during the election was good for the blue team. Schiff trying to push a coordinated effort between Russian government and Trump was stupidity and I said it BEFORE Mueller.

Dont matter. The orange child is out in 2020. He was voted in to do a job. Instead he seeks attention through pushing boundaries. This is the most narcissistic freak ever holding such an important job. The smart red team members know this and use the 1/3 fragile red butterflies that could not take the black president to their advantage. They are getting stuff done through a person who has no real ideals. He wants attention through trouble, this can be valuable. When he goes down it will be interesting to see how guys like McConnell Explain himself. Rom Emanuel, Erik Holder, Clinton’s, got nothing on Mitch and the crew. The red minds are much more devious. Bill Clinton is close but no cigar.

ducks
09-24-2019, 09:30 PM
Biden not telling truth about Ukraine, but media 'fact checkers are asleep'

ducks
09-24-2019, 09:31 PM
Who in the hell is going to beat trump in 2020

ducks
09-24-2019, 09:42 PM
Sen. John Kennedy dismisses Dem impeachment push, says they just have 'hurt feelings'

DC23
09-24-2019, 09:44 PM
0% chance of impeachment. Dems are so fucking desperate.

DC23
09-24-2019, 09:45 PM
Trending on Twitter: #Trump2020LandslideVictory

pgardn
09-24-2019, 10:01 PM
Who in the hell is going to beat trump in 2020

Me, you, or a brick.

Reck
09-24-2019, 10:07 PM
Trending on Twitter: #Trump2020LandslideVictory

Bots.

benefactor
09-24-2019, 10:19 PM
go ducks go

boutons_deux
09-24-2019, 10:20 PM
0% chance of impeachment. Dems are so fucking desperate.

It's the Repugs in Congress quitting, fed up with Trash, fed up with Dems owning the House

Repugs are desperate so they cheat, lie, commit counting fraud, voter suppression, gerrymander, criminalizing voter registration and voter assistance

iow, you are full of shit

Millennial_Messiah
09-24-2019, 10:21 PM
You're playing checkers. The Republicans that don't do nothing will be on record. This will be used against them. Remember, many of them are up for re-election in 2020.

The only reason why David is a free man is because the Republican Senators are protecting him. What do you think will happen when the Senate turns Blue in 2020?
In a system where California gets the same representation as a... Wyoming.... the senate will be unlikely to ever turn blue again. There will always be more red states than blue states, especially if there are a bunch of high ECV blue states.

hater
09-24-2019, 10:32 PM
Sen. John Kennedy dismisses Dem impeachment push, says they just have 'hurt feelings'

Kennedy is a great soul. If he's laughing at retarded democrats it's really an epic fail :lmao :lmao

Demoretards :lol

boutons_deux
09-24-2019, 10:33 PM
‘SHUT UP, MORON!’

Giuliani Erupts on Fox News Guest for Comments About His Ukraine Involvement

A bit later, Ingraham brought Giuliani back on, and he immediately erupted.

“I should sue you for libel because you irresponsibly said…” he started.

“Please,” Hahn said.

“You actually usually say incredibly stupid things,” Giuliani continued.

You’re a public figure,” Giuliani countered.

When Hahn interjected at one point,

Giuliani shouted, “Shut up, moron! Shut up! Shut Up!

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

You don’t know what you’re talking about, idiot!”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/shut-up-moron-giuliani-erupts-on-fox-news-guest-for-comments-about-his-ukraine-involvement/ (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/shut-up-moron-giuliani-erupts-on-fox-news-guest-for-comments-about-his-ukraine-involvement/)

Obviously, Julie Annie is the FUCKING "DESPERATE" one. :lol

ducks
09-24-2019, 10:46 PM
I remember when Hillary asked if Trump would be willing to accept defeat in the election.....

DarrinS
09-24-2019, 10:55 PM
Do it

SnakeBoy
09-25-2019, 12:38 AM
I'm going to go ahead and call this now.

Whistle blower has no firsthand knowledge and had “political bias” in favor of “a rival candidate” of the president

So clearly this is a political hit but it doesn't favor Biden at all, so who would orchestrate such a Clinton-esque scheme?

Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton reportedly working together to strategize ahead of 2020
https://news.yahoo.com/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clinton-reportedly-092544760.html

That's right, all roads still lead back to Shillary.

ElNono
09-25-2019, 12:53 AM
I'm going to go ahead and call this now.

Whistle blower has no firsthand knowledge and had “political bias” in favor of “a rival candidate” of the president

So clearly this is a political hit but it doesn't favor Biden at all, so who would orchestrate such a Clinton-esque scheme?

Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton reportedly working together to strategize ahead of 2020
https://news.yahoo.com/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clinton-reportedly-092544760.html

That's right, all roads still lead back to Shillary.

I mean, this is nice and all, but Donnie already admitted doing what apparently the whistleblower reported...

Which really is alarming, not because he couldn’t be this stupid, but because it’s so ridiculously brazen...

LkrFan
09-25-2019, 06:20 AM
In a system where California gets the same representation as a... Wyoming.... the senate will be unlikely to ever turn blue again. There will always be more red states than blue states, especially if there are a bunch of high ECV blue states.

Then how did the House turn blue in 2018?

hater
09-25-2019, 06:26 AM
I mean, this is nice and all, but Donnie already admitted doing what apparently the whistleblower reported...

Which really is alarming, not because he couldn’t be this stupid, but because it’s so ridiculously brazen...

Average Joe Biden admitted to withholding 2 billion of aid to Ukraine unless they fire the prosecutor investigating his son. They did fire the guy and Ukraine got the dough

:lmao

hater
09-25-2019, 06:27 AM
:lmao shit hole country

https://twitter.com/uncap/status/1176799858625265664?s=19

Pavlov
09-25-2019, 06:29 AM
Average Joe Biden admitted to withholding 2 billion of aid to Ukraine unless they fire the prosecutor investigating his son. They did fire the guy and Ukraine got the dough

:lmaoWas he actually investigating his son though?

hater
09-25-2019, 06:31 AM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1176169327436939264?s=19

Pavlov
09-25-2019, 06:33 AM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1176169327436939264?s=19hater's retweeting Posobiec now? :lmao

hater
09-25-2019, 06:40 AM
Don't know who that is but vid is legit and prrof of Biden Obama criminal acts

Impeach them :lol

And yes the prosecutor was investigating Biden son Ukrainian company in a criminal corruption investigation.

Wonder what happened to the investigation :lol

hater
09-25-2019, 06:42 AM
:lmao hunter Biden got 3 million for sitting on a board and didn't even go to Ukraine much :lmao

Pavlov
09-25-2019, 06:46 AM
Don't know who that is but vid is legit and prrof of Biden Obama criminal acts

Impeach them :lol

And yes the prosecutor was investigating Biden son Ukrainian company in a criminal corruption investigation.

Wonder what happened to the investigation :lolWhat is your proof the prosecutor was investigating Hunter Biden?


Earlier this year, Bloomberg News, citing documents and an interview with a former Ukrainian official, reported the Burisma investigation had been dormant for more than a year by the time Biden called for the crackdown on corruption. The then-Ukrainian prosecutor general told the news agency he found no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden and his son. And PolitiFact reported it found no evidence to "support the idea that Joe Biden advocated with his son's interests in mind."

Additionally, the most recent former prosecutor general of Ukraine, Yuriy Lutsenko, told Bloomberg he had no evidence of wrongdoing by either Biden.

Other investigations into Burisma's oligarch owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, proceeded, and The New York Times reported Sunday that former associates of the vice president have said Biden did not try to stop them.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/there-s-no-evidence-trump-s-biden-ukraine-accusations-what-n1057851

I look forward to seeing your news source links.

hater
09-25-2019, 06:50 AM
I can only imagine the meltdown if Trump Jr had been given a "job" at a ukranian company :lmao

Pavlov
09-25-2019, 06:51 AM
I can only imagine the meltdown if Trump Jr had been given a "job" at a ukranian company :lmaoI can only imagine my surprise if you actually posted any evidence Hunter Biden was being investigated.:lmao

Millennial_Messiah
09-25-2019, 07:21 AM
Then how did the House turn blue in 2018?

Because the House is parliamentary, i.e. all people are accounted for, so California gets 53 representatives in the House while small red states like Alaska or Wyoming only get 1. Duh?!?

Millennial_Messiah
09-25-2019, 07:23 AM
I can only imagine my surprise if you actually posted any evidence Hunter Biden was being investigated.:lmao

I was down in San Antonio with my mom this past weekend and she keeps the big flat screen on Fox News 24/7 and Tucker Carlson and Hannity literally can't shut up about Hunter Biden. It's like they want a pinko like Warren or Bernie to win... which would be eternally damaging for our country. wtf?

Pavlov
09-25-2019, 07:26 AM
It's going to be funny as shit if the transcript just turns out to be a memo of the conversation.

Pavlov
09-25-2019, 07:28 AM
I was down in San Antonio with my mom this past weekend and she keeps the big flat screen on Fox News 24/7 and Tucker Carlson and Hannity literally can't shut up about Hunter Biden. It's like they want a pinko like Warren or Bernie to win... which would be eternally damaging for our country. wtf?Eh we'd be fine. We survived eight years of the Black Panther Mau Mau Commie Jihadi after all.

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 07:29 AM
It's going to be funny as shit if the transcript just turns out to be a memo of the conversation.

If Dems can get the wb into Congress, he/she could submit his original whistle, not Barr's redacted bullshit.

Millennial_Messiah
09-25-2019, 07:50 AM
Eh we'd be fine. We survived eight years of the Black Panther Mau Mau Commie Jihadi after all.

turned out obama was just a stoner hippie at heart, but the fear was he could have been a complete radical like Malcolm X, Mahmoud Abdur Rauf or (later) Kaepernick

then again, we did get the shitty ACA which still hasn't been cut out 3 years into Trump's term, and could have had far worse things like cap and trade/leftist carbon tax crap if the Dems had held on to all 3 chambers in 2010.

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 07:55 AM
Trump Is Already Using The Impeachment Inquiry To Fundraise For 2020

The president is asking supporters to join his “impeachment defense team” amid allegations he sought election help from Ukraine.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-using-impeachment-inquiry-to-fundraise_n_5d8a7497e4b08f48f4abedcb (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-using-impeachment-inquiry-to-fundraise_n_5d8a7497e4b08f48f4abedcb)

LkrFan
09-25-2019, 07:59 AM
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1176691714972684288?s=19

LkrFan
09-25-2019, 08:05 AM
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1176826520087793665?s=19

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 08:06 AM
Fox News legal analyst: Trump admitted to a crime and it ‘absolutely’ is an impeachable offense

Judge Andrew Napolitano explained that President Donald Trump admitted to a crime on camera and that crime is an impeachable one.

“It is a crime for the president to solicit aid for his campaign from a foreign government,”

“Yes, it is the same crime for which the Trump Organization was investigated by Bob Mueller,

who decided not to seek an indictment because there wasn’t enough evidence,”

“Well, no, he said he didn’t seek an indictment because he wasn’t charged because of the DOJ rule that said, ‘you can lay it out, but you can’t charge,'”

“That’s on the obstruction of justice, whether or not there was a conspiracy between the Russians and Trump campaign,”

“He said there’s some evidence but not enough to indict.

It’s the same crime:

an agreement or solicitation for assistance for an American campaign regulated by the Federal Elections Commission where you are seeking assistance from a foreign government.

That’s a crime.” (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/watch-ex-cia-official-break-down-the-three-crimes-trump-committed-if-ukraine-scandal-is-true/)
asked if Rudy Giuliani’s involvement, at the aid and instruction of the State Department, meant that he too had committed a crime.

“If it was done in order to enhance the president’s reelection campaign,

yes, it’s the same crime that the president would have committed,”

said Napolitano. “If the president said, ‘I want you to investigate the principal opponent’s son,’ thinking to himself it’s going to help his campaign.”

“Bribery absolutely it is an impeachable offense (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/it-is-a-federal-crime-former-homeland-security-chief-who-worked-for-giuliani-says-trump-broke-the-law/), there’s no equivocation,” he said.

“And why do I say that?

It’s stated in the Constitution.

The basis for impeachment:

Treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/conspiracy-extortion-and-bribery-ex-prosecutor-ticks-off-crimes-trump-and-rudy-may-have-committed-with-ukraine-gambit/).

The president offered a bribe —

if the president offered a bribe to the president of the Ukraine, that would be an impeachable offense.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/fox-news-legal-analyst-trump-admitted-to-a-crime-and-it-absolutely-is-an-impeachable-offense/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/fox-news-legal-analyst-trump-admitted-to-a-crime-and-it-absolutely-is-an-impeachable-offense/)

hater
09-25-2019, 08:08 AM
I was down in San Antonio with my mom this past weekend and she keeps the big flat screen on Fox News 24/7 and Tucker Carlson and Hannity literally can't shut up about Hunter Biden. It's like they want a pinko like Warren or Bernie to win... which would be eternally damaging for our country. wtf?

Funny cause NBC, CNN, wapo, wsj, and nyt can't shut up about trump

Warren is a centrist neocon lite don't let her fool you. She'd basically be Biden with a pussy. And bid3nwod be cáncer for our nation

Only Tulsi or Bernie could save this doomed nation at this pojnt

hater
09-25-2019, 08:10 AM
turned out obama was just a stoner hippie at heart, but the fear was he could have been a complete radical like Malcolm X, Mahmoud Abdur Rauf or (later) Kaepernick

then again, we did get the shitty ACA which still hasn't been cut out 3 years into Trump's term, and could have had far worse things like cap and trade/leftist carbon tax crap if the Dems had held on to all 3 chambers in 2010.

LOL "the fear"

That's retards washing your brain. Nothing radical happens in USA unless elite masters and deep state say so

Sheriff Hoyt
09-25-2019, 08:27 AM
1176848092462768129

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 08:32 AM
Will the Dems' Articles be restrictive or broad, like including Trash holding secret meetings with USA enemy Pootin, 10K+ LIES?

Will they include in "Conduct UnBecoming"? that list is extremely long

Fuck it, even his conviction and $25M fine paid AFTER he was elected for the Trash University scam, impeachable.

florige
09-25-2019, 08:40 AM
Funny cause NBC, CNN, wapo, wsj, and nyt can't shut up about trump

Warren is a centrist neocon lite don't let her fool you. She'd basically be Biden with a pussy. And bid3nwod be cáncer for our nation

Only Tulsi or Bernie could save this doomed nation at this pojnt



Bernie seems to be leading in all the Dem polls but the networks keep pushing Biden and Warren for some reason.

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 08:46 AM
Bernie seems to be leading in all the Dem polls but the networks keep pushing Biden and Warren for some reason.

nearly all recent polls I've seen Bernie is behind Sleepy Joe and Liz

LkrFan
09-25-2019, 08:48 AM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1176830865361575936?s=19

:lol at Colludy

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 08:57 AM
Rudy Giuliani just gave a weapons-grade crazy Fox & Friends interview — here are the highlights

he spouted conspiracy theories,

attacked other Trump administration officials, and

made a stunning admission about having been read what was supposed to have been a classified transcript about a conversation with President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.


First, Giuliani insisted that there was nothing wrong with Trump asking Zelensky to investigate Biden because there was

a vast conspiracy to frame Trump :lol

that originated in Ukraine that included ?????

Biden, :lol
Hillary Clinton :lol and
George Soros.:lol

falsifying documents in order to frame former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort

multiple government officials blamed Giuliani for getting them into a “shit show” by inserting himself into diplomacy with Ukraine.

Giuliani responded to this by calling all of these officials “disloyal.”

should be “grateful” that he inserted himself into diplomacy because otherwise no one would have pushed Ukraine to investigate Biden.

Giuliani insisted that the president didn’t say anything wrong before revealing that

he’d had the entire transcript of the conversation, which is supposed to be classified information, read aloud to him.

eyebrow raising because

Giuliani is not a government official and is instead

serving as the president’s personal attorney.

Trump would have been derelict in his duties if he didn’t push Zelensky to investigate his political rivals.

waxing nostalgic about his career as a prosecutor and then linking it to his current efforts to ensnare the Biden family.

“A lot of alleged criminals are not that smart,” :lol Giuliani said.

“That’s how we catch them.” :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/rudy-giuliani-just-gave-a-weapons-grade-crazy-fox-friends-interview-here-are-the-highlights/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1543 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/rudy-giuliani-just-gave-a-weapons-grade-crazy-fox-friends-interview-here-are-the-highlights/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1543)

Trash is WORSE than "not that smart"

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 09:06 AM
‘Do you think I’m stupid?’: :lol

Rudy Giuliani says Democrats ‘walked into a trap’ on impeachment

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Rudy-Giuliani.jpg

he claimed there is a $2 billion conspiracy and

said former Vice President Joe Biden was “intellectually challenged.”

The former mayor of New York City did not look healthy.

He was hoarse and by the end of the interview,

Giuliani was mopping sweat off his face.


“Don’t you think I can prove what he did? :lol Then PROVE IT, asshole

Do you think I’m stupid?”

“I’m sorry to cut you off, you have to get your voice back,” Ingraham said.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/do-you-think-im-stupid-rudy-giuliani-says-democrats-walked-into-a-trap-on-impeachment/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1543 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/do-you-think-im-stupid-rudy-giuliani-says-democrats-walked-into-a-trap-on-impeachment/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1543)

Trill Clinton
09-25-2019, 09:13 AM
whats this i hear about trump wanting to release a redacted whistleblower complaint

hater
09-25-2019, 09:17 AM
:lmao called it

:lmao demoretards

:lmao more egg on their face than IHOP :lol

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

TSA
09-25-2019, 09:24 AM
:rollin

TSA
09-25-2019, 09:25 AM
Can’t wait for the secondhand whistleblower gossip to be released :rollin

ducks
09-25-2019, 09:25 AM
Nancy Pelosi on Bill Clinton's impeachment in 1998: 'Republicans are paralyzed with hatred

Sheriff Hoyt
09-25-2019, 09:31 AM
1176860072108015616

Trill Clinton
09-25-2019, 09:32 AM
If you have Hater blocked, here is the link to the transcripts

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 09:32 AM
where are the NSA's transcripts of Trash and Julie Annie's calls to Ukraine?

we'll hear from the wb this week.

the key is that Dems have started impeachment, and it's not only Ukraine that will be in the A of I

otoh, unless the Dems get outside help like the lawyer who destroyed Levandowski, they will very probably fuck it up

Not convicting and punishing Trash will encourage just as evil but much smarter people to go as far as Trash, and further.

Sheriff Hoyt
09-25-2019, 09:33 AM
1176866456505585665

Sheriff Hoyt
09-25-2019, 09:33 AM
1176862582176669696

Sheriff Hoyt
09-25-2019, 09:35 AM
1176865152899125249

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 09:35 AM
‘Republicans loathe Donald Trump’: MSNBC’s Morning Joe reveals how president’s support could evaporate under impeachment

“Republicans on the Hill loathe, loathe — I can’t say it enough — they loathe Donald Trump personally,” Scarborough said.

“They blame him for the chaos that’s going on in Washington and

stopping them from getting more things done.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/republicans-loathe-donald-trump-msnbcs-morning-joe-reveals-how-presidents-support-could-evaporate-under-impeachment/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/republicans-loathe-donald-trump-msnbcs-morning-joe-reveals-how-presidents-support-could-evaporate-under-impeachment/)

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 09:41 AM
Five Simple Rules for Impeaching Our President

Battle on and for TV,

ignore the old rules,

expect the worst from Republicans,

cause pain, and

let the pros work.

something profound has changed my mind on the matter.

It isn’t just the current smoking gun of Trump’s extortion plot with Ukraine, or

the clumsy conspiracy of dunces inside the White House and out.

It wasn’t even the obvious obstruction in the Mueller Report.

Donald Trump is less a president and more of

a gigantic shit golem animated into a husky-sized suit

with the singular superpower of

blowing up everything around him in order to save his own bloated ass.

For all that

he’s utterly obvious in his corruption, and

as much as the case for impeachment is writ large with every tweet,

I was a reluctant convert to the impeachment movement.


Fuck it. Let’s roll.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/five-simple-rules-for-impeaching-our-president-donald-j-trump?ref=home (https://www.thedailybeast.com/five-simple-rules-for-impeaching-our-president-donald-j-trump?ref=home)

Sheriff Hoyt
09-25-2019, 09:41 AM
1176868407272235013

Blake
09-25-2019, 09:43 AM
1176862582176669696

4D cheese

Trill Clinton
09-25-2019, 09:45 AM
1176868407272235013

Guiliani raging and sweating yesterday wasn't a good look at all.

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 09:54 AM
If the wb complaint was so innocuous, why did Trash/Barr block its release until Ukraine blew up?

DarrinS
09-25-2019, 09:59 AM
:lmao called it

:lmao demoretards

:lmao more egg on their face than IHOP :lol

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf


That's it?

Womp womp

:lmao

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 10:00 AM
Dan Abrams Says Trump Transcript is ‘Unambiguous’:

‘This is Worse Than I Think People Expected’

“The President had initially talked about the possibility that

this was a discussion about trying to root out corruption in Ukraine,

trying to ensure that the money was going to the right places, et cetera.

There’s almost nothing about that in this transcript.”

the majority of what the president is talking about is with regard to personal agenda items.

The CrowdStrike, Hunter Biden, and Joe Biden…

The most important point though is the Biden piece, right?

You can say that the Hillary Clinton piece is inappropriate, shouldn’t have done it,

but when you’re talking about trying to get information about your potential 2020 rival,

you’re now crossing into the potential legal issues.

You’re now talking about the possibility of influencing an election,"

"the suggestion was they’re telling us this isn’t going to be that big of a deal… This is unambiguous.”

https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/dan-abrams-says-trump-transcript-is-unambiguous-this-is-worse-than-i-think-people-expected/

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 10:06 AM
Pelosi says Trash says "it wasn't me who blocked the release of wb complaint"

will the wb really be allowed to speak freely in Congress?

DarrinS
09-25-2019, 10:10 AM
Pelosi says Trash says "it wasn't me who blocked the release of wb complaint"

will the wb really be allowed to speak freely in Congress?


About his/her indirect knowledge? :lol

By all means

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 10:14 AM
"indirect" doesn't mean incorrect or inaccurate, except in the febrile brains of Trash's cult mob

DMC
09-25-2019, 10:15 AM
This impeachment push is intended to do about the same thing the Hillary Clinton investigation did, sway voters. Obama (ding) had Trump investigated during the 2016 election cycle but by his own executive branch, not by a foreign entity.

vy65
09-25-2019, 10:16 AM
At first blush, this doesn't seem as bad as I thought it was going to be. DJT pretty blatantly asks for an investigation into Biden's son - there's no dispute about that:


I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing within the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.

Is there a request to investigate Hunter Biden? Yes. Is that, in and of itself, an impeachable offense? I don't know. If some quid pro quo had been offered - i.e., unfreezing foreign aid that had been frozen in the prior week, the case would be clearer (although my read of Art. II Sec. 4 is that the bribery contemplated is a bribe given to the president - not one which the president gives). Is it treason? That likely is an open question too - although the optics of asking another nation to investigate the potential democratic nominee's son is not a great look by any means.

My gut tells me that this, without anything more, is likely to result in another circus without much to show for it in the end. If this is all there is, then it wouldn't be the hill I die on. If the whistleblower's complaint - which contemplates a pattern of bad conduct - shows more, then there could very well be some legs here.

DMC
09-25-2019, 10:19 AM
Guiliani raging and sweating yesterday wasn't a good look at all.

This is a fundamental issue with the democratic voter base - they focus on appearances and presume the majority of the country who doesn't tweet gives 2 shits about it. The dems started ignoring flyover folks for some reason, and some of you who give too much weight to tweets and nuances like RG's sweating could be once again crying whitelash if you lose again. This is the time when you should be scoring points for your side. I've yet to see the dems offer anything to the voters they don't already have, other than themselves in office.

DMC
09-25-2019, 10:21 AM
At first blush, this doesn't seem as bad as I thought it was going to be. DJT pretty blatantly asks for an investigation into Biden's son - there's no dispute about that:



Is there a request to investigate Hunter Biden? Yes. Is that, in and of itself, an impeachable offense? I don't know. If some quid pro quo had been offered - i.e., unfreezing foreign aid that had been frozen in the prior week, the case would be clearer (although my read of Art. II Sec. 4 is that the bribery contemplated is a bribe given to the president - not one which the president gives). Is it treason? That likely is an open question too - although the optics of asking another nation to investigate the potential democratic nominee's son is not a great look by any means.

My gut tells me that this, without anything more, is likely to result in another circus without much to show for it in the end. If this is all there is, then it wouldn't be the hill I die on. If the whistleblower's complaint - which contemplates a pattern of bad conduct - shows more, then there could very well be some legs here.
I think someone needs to investigate these rich white kids with names like Hunter, then move on to Will Smith's sons (or whatever he has).

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 10:25 AM
Why is Trash asking a foreign power to investigate his political opponent for corruption?

Isn't that the job of the FBI?

No doubt that the Ukraine guy KNEW Trash had blocked $100Ms from going to Ukraine,

then Trash calls PERSONALLY to talk about Ukraine investigating Biden.

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 10:35 AM
https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/eOaj6eYmcac1UXbanPOJ-q0-ZQ5qvZPPxri-XgGDIew5ss380dXhUCU5Xc6EUJo1qM3TK5uL7fPh1IzwQMa4CR R5QbCOHLVIHi7eLjGBaHetZoAb83sV=s0-d-e1-ft#https://s3.amazonaws.com/ak-kharris/images/kdh-190925-trump-memo.png

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 10:36 AM
Trash is talking about Victoria Nuland,

who was instrumental with Hillary and NATO in getting

Ukraine Nazis to overthrow Pootin's corrupt Ukraine poopet?

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 10:43 AM
...

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 10:46 AM
GOP senators are ‘stunned’ at the transcript — and think Trump is putting himself in more jeopardy


the notes in fact confirm

Trump demanded an investigation of Biden,

implicate (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/bill-barr-is-a-central-figure-in-the-ukraine-scandal-and-must-recuse-himself-cnns-jeffrey-toobin/) Attorney General William Barr in the scheme, and

even show the Ukrainian President tried to flatter him by bringing up his stays in Trump Tower (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/revealed-ukrainian-president-buttered-up-trump-by-telling-him-he-stayed-at-trump-tower/).

Robert Costa
(https://twitter.com/costareports)✔@costareports
(https://twitter.com/costareports)
(https://twitter.com/costareports)Several Senate Republicans I've spoken with in the last hour are

stunned that the WH is releasing this transcript.

They do not think it helps the president's cause.

And they expect today's Senate GOP lunch to be quite the get-together.

9:24 AM - Sep 25, 2019 (https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1176865152899125249)

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/gop-senators-are-stunned-at-the-transcript-and-think-trump-is-putting-himself-in-more-jeopardy-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1548 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/gop-senators-are-stunned-at-the-transcript-and-think-trump-is-putting-himself-in-more-jeopardy-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1548)

Spurminator
09-25-2019, 10:59 AM
Watching FusionGPS/Steele crisis mongers like DarrinS and TSA "nothingburger" a President of the United States openly asking a foreign government to investigate a political rival is something to behold, even if it's the most predictable thing ever.

hater
09-25-2019, 11:01 AM
Watching FusionGPS/Steele crisis mongers like DarrinS and TSA "nothingburger" a President of the United States openly asking a foreign government to investigate a political rival is something to behold, even if it's the most predictable thing ever.

Because the democrats including Biden did not ask Ukraine to investigate Trump???

:lmao the hipocrisy

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 11:03 AM
So at LEAST

Trash

tranny Julie Annie

Billy "Tom Hagen" Barr

officially documented in the crime :lol

Spurminator
09-25-2019, 11:09 AM
If some quid pro quo had been offered - i.e., unfreezing foreign aid that had been frozen in the prior week, the case would be clearer (although my read of Art. II Sec. 4 is that the bribery contemplated is a bribe given to the president - not one which the president gives).

The request for quid pro quo seems implied when he asks for the "favor" directly after Zelenskyy talks about buying Javelins from the US, but probably not beyond a shadow of a doubt. It will almost certainly just be interpreted as a new topic of conversation by Trump's supporters and sycophants.

It's a pretty damning transcript at least from an optics perspective. Besides, anyone who reads through that and is proud to have the current White House occupant as their leader should have their head checked. But these are people who can watch him speak for more than five minutes and say to themselves, "Yes. This makes sense. This is a man who should definitely be in charge of our National Security."

vy65
09-25-2019, 11:15 AM
The request for quid pro quo seems implied when he asks for the "favor" directly after Zelenskyy talks about buying Javelins from the US, but probably not beyond a shadow of a doubt. It will almost certainly just be interpreted as a new topic of conversation by Trump's supporters and sycophants.

It's a pretty damning transcript at least from an optics perspective. Besides, anyone who reads through that and is proud to have the current White House occupant as their leader should have their head checked. But these are people who can watch him speak for more than five minutes and say to themselves, "Yes. This makes sense. This is a man who should definitely be in charge of our National Security."

I don't disagree with the sentiment here. But "seems implied" does not inspire confidence that the Dems have the horses to run the impeachment race. I guess they're in a tight spot: on the one hand, not opening the inquiry would reduce this clusterfuck to just another run-of-the-mill POTUS being POTUS fuck ups. On the other hand, this doesn't, as you mention, rise to the level that would make a congressman voting to not impeach lose credibility/constituents/an election, etc... Again, unless there's more here - which is entirely possible - this isn't the hill I'd die on because the potential to derail 2020 is too high. Dems are kissing the beehive thinking it won't sting if they think that impeachment won't galvanize Trump's base.

DarrinS
09-25-2019, 11:15 AM
Just compare that transcript with video of Biden bragging about withholding 1B unless they fire the prosecutor.

Not a good look

:lmao

Sheriff Hoyt
09-25-2019, 11:18 AM
1176891028953059331

referred to the FBI

hater
09-25-2019, 11:21 AM
:lmao

Let's get real: Democrats were first to enlist Ukraine in US elections

As I have reported, the pressure began at least as early as January 2016, when the Obama White House unexpectedly invited Ukraine's top prosecutors to Washington to discuss fighting corruption in the country.

The meeting, promised as training, turned out to be more of a pretext for the Obama administration to pressure Ukraine's prosecutors to drop an investigation into the Burisma Holdings gas company that employed Hunter Biden and to look for new evidence in a then-dormant criminal case against eventual Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, a GOP lobbyist.

U.S. officials "kept talking about how important it was that all of our anti-corruption efforts be united," said Andrii Telizhenko, the former political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington who organized and attended the meetings.

Nazar Kholodnytsky, Ukraine's chief anti-corruption prosecutor, told me that, soon after he returned from the Washington meeting, he saw evidence in Ukraine of political meddling in the U.S. election. That's when two top Ukrainian officials released secret evidence to the American media, smearing Manafort.

:lmao demoretards

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/462658-lets-get-real-democrats-were-first-to-enlist-ukraine-in-us-elections

Trill Clinton
09-25-2019, 11:23 AM
For those of you who remember, how does this impeachment compare to the Clinton one?

Sheriff Hoyt
09-25-2019, 11:25 AM
1176891093339820032

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 11:30 AM
The President of corrupt Ukraine certainly doesn't need to be told explicitly by Trash that the blocked $100Ms were in play,

blocked by Trash persnally a few weeks before the Trash called him to ask him to go after Trash's political opponent.

Of course the Ukraine guy KNEW those $100Ms were in play, if he personally played along with Trash's corruption.

You simpleton motherfuckers requiring that Trash EXPLICITLY offered quid pro quo have no fucking idea of subtext, esp political subtext ("I'll Make Him An Offer He Can't Refuse"),

and are ignoring the context of Trash blocking $100Ms just a few weeks before he called.

Spurminator
09-25-2019, 11:31 AM
For those of you who remember, how does this impeachment compare to the Clinton one?

One was about extramarital relations, one is about foreign relations. I recall a lot of pearl clutching about morality and the sanctity of the Oval Office. How far we've fallen.

hater
09-25-2019, 11:31 AM
For those of you who remember, how does this impeachment compare to the Clinton one?

Clinton lied under oath tbqh

This is not even 10 percent of that

RD2191
09-25-2019, 11:34 AM
Clinton lied under oath tbqh

This is not even 10 percent of that

:lol

hater
09-25-2019, 11:36 AM
:lmao

Let's get real: Democrats were first to enlist Ukraine in US elections

As I have reported, the pressure began at least as early as January 2016, when the Obama White House unexpectedly invited Ukraine's top prosecutors to Washington to discuss fighting corruption in the country.

The meeting, promised as training, turned out to be more of a pretext for the Obama administration to pressure Ukraine's prosecutors to drop an investigation into the Burisma Holdings gas company that employed Hunter Biden and to look for new evidence in a then-dormant criminal case against eventual Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, a GOP lobbyist.

U.S. officials "kept talking about how important it was that all of our anti-corruption efforts be united," said Andrii Telizhenko, the former political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington who organized and attended the meetings.

Nazar Kholodnytsky, Ukraine's chief anti-corruption prosecutor, told me that, soon after he returned from the Washington meeting, he saw evidence in Ukraine of political meddling in the U.S. election. That's when two top Ukrainian officials released secret evidence to the American media, smearing Manafort.

:lmao demoretards

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/462658-lets-get-real-democrats-were-first-to-enlist-ukraine-in-us-elections

Crickets

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 11:38 AM
One was about extramarital relations, one is about foreign relations. I recall a lot of pearl clutching about morality and the sanctity of the Oval Office. How far we've fallen.

nope, Dem Slick Willy was impeached by the Repugs

for lying to the grand jury

about perfectly legal sex between consulting adults

Spurminator
09-25-2019, 11:45 AM
nope, Dem Slick Willy was impeached by the Repugs

for lying to the grand jury

about perfectly legal sex between consulting adults

Like I said, one was about extramarital relations.

Trill Clinton
09-25-2019, 11:49 AM
One was about extramarital relations, one is about foreign relations. I recall a lot of pearl clutching about morality and the sanctity of the Oval Office. How far we've fallen.

daaaaaayyum thats crazy. I don't see how that is impeachable tbh. You would think something like this would be unanimously seen as an offense after what Clinton did.


Clinton lied under oath tbqh

This is not even 10 percent of that

this one is worse?

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 11:50 AM
Like I said, one was about extramarital relations.

legally the impeachment was about lying,

not about sex

because you can't convict anybody for the non-crime of legal, consensual sex

Trill Clinton
09-25-2019, 11:53 AM
1176874772736749569

:lol

Sheriff Hoyt
09-25-2019, 12:01 PM
1176903443308568578

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 12:11 PM
Another Trash sycophant pushing Ukraine to go after Biden

Pentagon chief says emphasized anti-corruption in recent call with Ukrainian counterpart

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ukraine-military/pentagon-chief-says-emphasized-anti-corruption-in-recent-call-with-ukrainian-counterpart-idUSKBN1WA21H?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ukraine-military/pentagon-chief-says-emphasized-anti-corruption-in-recent-call-with-ukrainian-counterpart-idUSKBN1WA21H?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29)

Pavlov
09-25-2019, 12:12 PM
Crickets
Where is the proof there was pressure to drop the noninvestigation into Burisma?

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 12:18 PM
Cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike called out in Trump-Ukraine call transcript


CrowdStrike investigated the Democratic National Committee’s hack in 2016.

President Trump asked Ukraine's president to look into the company.

https://www.cnet.com/news/cybersecurity-firm-crowdstrike-called-out-in-trump-ukraine-call-transcript/#ftag=CAD590a51e (https://www.cnet.com/news/cybersecurity-firm-crowdstrike-called-out-in-trump-ukraine-call-transcript/#ftag=CAD590a51e)

ElNono
09-25-2019, 12:24 PM
Average Joe Biden admitted to withholding 2 billion of aid to Ukraine unless they fire the prosecutor investigating his son. They did fire the guy and Ukraine got the dough

:lmao

More whataboutism... indict Biden then.. no problem with that.

One thing doesn’t excuse the other.

ElNono
09-25-2019, 12:33 PM
I don't disagree with the sentiment here. But "seems implied" does not inspire confidence that the Dems have the horses to run the impeachment race. I guess they're in a tight spot: on the one hand, not opening the inquiry would reduce this clusterfuck to just another run-of-the-mill POTUS being POTUS fuck ups. On the other hand, this doesn't, as you mention, rise to the level that would make a congressman voting to not impeach lose credibility/constituents/an election, etc... Again, unless there's more here - which is entirely possible - this isn't the hill I'd die on because the potential to derail 2020 is too high. Dems are kissing the beehive thinking it won't sting if they think that impeachment won't galvanize Trump's base.

There’s a basic check and balances task assigned to Congress. It’s really a matter of them having to do their job. If they do not on something that, at best, is a gray area, it then becomes a new tool of the executive.

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 12:38 PM
Why We Shouldn’t Trust Trump’s Transcript

BUCK BANKS

“House Judiciary Committee transcripts of some of

President Nixon’s Watergate tape recordings differ extensively,

and in many cases significantly,

from the edited transcripts made public by the White House.”

— New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/1974/06/21/archives/nixon-and-house-versions-of-the-tapes-differ-widely-discrepancies.html), June 20, 1974


http://www.pensitoreview.com/2019/09/25/why-we-shouldnt-trust-trumps-transcript/ (http://www.pensitoreview.com/2019/09/25/why-we-shouldnt-trust-trumps-transcript/)

Pavlov
09-25-2019, 12:42 PM
As I said it might, it's not a transcript.

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 12:43 PM
As I said it might, it's not a transcript.

yep, we'll see if Trash/Barr will let the wb give the unredacted transcript to the Congressional Dems

and for the cult mob who say the wb provides "second hand gossip", the IG agreed it was real and serious.

vy65
09-25-2019, 12:50 PM
There’s a basic check and balances task assigned to Congress. It’s really a matter of them having to do their job. If they do not on something that, at best, is a gray area, it then becomes a new tool of the executive.

Impeachment isn’t the only way to perform that function though.

rjv
09-25-2019, 12:52 PM
Where is the proof there was pressure to drop the noninvestigation into Burisma?

i'm no biden fan, not in the least. in fact i thoroughly dislike him but the evidence, when examined neutrally, seems to indicate that biden's pressure on the ukranian government actually increased the chances of hunter being prosecuted rather than, as the right-wing narrative has tried to establish, not being prosecuted. the removal of shokin essentially removed the corrupting influence that prevented the british fraud department from going after burisma to begin with. i don't see how that would have helped burisma or hunter.

Pavlov
09-25-2019, 12:57 PM
yep, we'll see if Trash/Barr will let the wb give the unredacted transcript to the Congressional Dems

and for the cult mob who say the wb provides "second hand gossip", the IG agreed it was real and serious.Not sure we want to admit there are verbatim transcripts as that's an admission of recorded calls (probably dumb, but it's diplomatic kabuki), but it is important to know a MEMCOM isn't a transcript and is in no way the final word on this call.

Also :lol @ the Trumpistas who have tried to connect every conspiracy dot they can when it comes to Democrats but are blind to the connection between this call and the withholding of military aid.

boutons_deux
09-25-2019, 01:09 PM
blind to the connection between this call and the withholding of military aid.

the only "proof" they MIGHT accept wold be:

"Hey Zelly boy, this is Donny.

You know those $100Ms for Ukraine that I personally blocked a few weeks ago?

Well, if you publish a report (doesn't have to be true, of course) that "proves" that Biden and his son did corrupt stuff,

I'll send you those $100Ms,

AND

I'll buy you a huge villa overlooking the Mediterranean. Kapiche?

It was nice talking to you"

Pavlov
09-25-2019, 01:10 PM
i'm no biden fan, not in the least. in fact i thoroughly dislike him but the evidence, when examined neutrally, seems to indicate that biden's pressure on the ukranian government actually increased the chances of hunter being prosecuted rather than, as the right-wing narrative has tried to establish, not being prosecuted. the removal of shokin essentially removed the corrupting influence that prevented the british fraud department from going after burisma to begin with. i don't see how that would have helped burisma or hunter.Exactly. Everyone wanted Shokin gone because he WASN'T investigating corruption enough. Investigations of the owner of Burisma have been on again, off again and on again in the years since with zero implications of Hunter Biden who was still on the board for at least some of that time.

hater
09-25-2019, 01:17 PM
Like I said, one was about extramarital relations.

Perjury and obstruction of justice are not extramarital affairs, Penelope

:lmao

koriwhat
09-25-2019, 01:21 PM
Haha the desperate left and their stupid mob of idiot followers :lmao