trump impeachment watch thread

[boutons_deux]

Trash was NOT democratically elected, but elected by the Constitutional perversion of the Electoral College, designed specifically by FFs to override the democratic/popular vote.

If two Dems had been recently elected by the EC, the Repugs would be SCREAMING to kill the EC.

[ChumpDumper]

You calling it a drug deal to convince yourself, or....?

I’ve already answered all your questions, perhaps not in a way that you find satisfying :cry

Trump has conducted his presidency in a non-traditional way all while remaining vigilant and aware so as to not violate any existing laws - evidenced by your inability to point out even a single law he has violated :lol

Trump was open and cooperative during the Mueller probe, where did that get him? You wouldn’t play that game again either if you knew the result was already predetermined And with the nations most influential force in the back pocket of your opponent. Gmafb :lol
I was using Bolton's term. Sorry it triggered you.

Thanks for not answering any questions.:tu

I can't expect you to do so. You don't want a serious discussion about any of this.

[boutons_deux]

Trash whines, bitches that the Democrats ‘want fairness in the Senate’ trial:

‘We have the majority now’

insisted that

Democrats don’t have a right to expect “fairness in the Senate”

after they “treated us very unfairly” by passing impeachment articles.

“We have the majority now they want [Mitch] McConnell to do wonderful things for them,” he said.

“They treated us very unfairly and now they want fairness in the Senate.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-complains-democrats-want-fairness-in-the-senate-trial-we-have-the-majority-now/

file under: ANY and ALL opposition to Repugs is simply ILLEGITIMATE, Repugs' strategy since Bill Clinton was elected.

[Winehole23]

Because they knew they were on their way to violating the law for following Trump's orders.

Questions pending.
When you're talking about criming, you can't be held responsible afterwards unless you explicitly say "let's do this crime. "

Circumlocution always gets you off the hook, this is a legal truism.

[thispego]

I was using Bolton's term. Sorry it triggered you.

Thanks for not answering any questions.:tu

I can't expect you to do so. You don't want a serious discussion about any of this.

:lol I’ve been serious, don’t know what you want from me chump? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Mitch McConnell is in ‘a real bind’ because voters are demanding he hold a real trial: Kentucky lawmaker

Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) broke down the key political pressures pulling Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) in both directions on how to conduct the Senate impeachment trial.

“The president is saying the House process was unfair, and now implying why should Democrats expect a fair process in the Senate. what do you say to that?” asked anchor Kate Bolduan.

“Well, first of all, he’s totally lying about the process,” said Yarmuth.

“He was invited to have lawyers present and call witnesses, he chose not to.

He did not participate in the House.

To say it was not fair because he decided not to make it fair is ridiculous.

I think the argument is the same with whatever happens in the Senate.”

“I think Mitch is going to face severe criticism,

and as the polling has shown, not just from Democrats,

if he makes short shrift of this whole proceeding.

And yet if he calls witnesses,

then the president’s case is going to be severely damaged.

I think he really makes the calculation right now that at least

he’s safer to have, basically, a non-trial trial, than to call witnesses who would undermine the president’s arguments.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/mitch-mcconnell-is-in-a-real-bind-because-voters-are-demanding-he-hold-a-real-trial-kentucky-lawmaker/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/mitch-mcconnell-is-in-a-real-bind-because-voters-are-demanding-he-hold-a-real-trial-kentucky-lawmaker/)

Moscow Bitch McConnell is gonna give America (the world is watching, esp the autocrats looking for autocratic leadership, examples) the Pravda in a Russian show trial.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol I’ve been serious, don’t know what you want from me chump? :lolanswer my actual questions

[Winehole23]

answer my actual questionsDemands answers, skirts direct questions.

[thispego]

answer my actual questions

I gave you exact answers to your specific questions. That’s all I got for you, I’m not gonna write you a dissertation:lol

[boutons_deux]

Legal experts blast Bill Barr over impeachment and Ukraine:

He is ‘up to his eyeballs’ in the ‘corruption surrounding Trump’

Barr has turned out to be a full-fledged Trump loyalist, and

legal experts are lambasting him for becoming, in effect,

Trump’s personal attorney during the Ukraine scandal and the president’s impeachment.

Barr hasn’t been hiding his feelings on Trump’s impeachment,

claiming that Democrats in Congress are “trivializing” impeachment and are using it as a “political tool.”

Barr’s loyalty to Trump is a “perversion” of his position as U.S. attorney general.

an inherent conflict in Barr’s designated role as the chief law enforcement officer of this country and his efforts to protect the man who gave him his job.

Barr, according to Akerman, is a “major player” in the obstruction case against Trump because

he advised the White House not to turn over the whistleblower’s complaint about Trump’s conversation with Zelensky.

Barr “should be performing no role here” because “he has a clear conflict of interest.”

members of Congress urging them to impeach Barr because

he has become a “threat to national security” and

has “violated his oath to the people he swore to protect.”

Barr has made clear that, first and foremost, he serves President Donald Trump’s interests and not those of the United States.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/legal-experts-blast-bill-barr-over-impeachment-and-ukraine-he-is-up-to-his-eyeballs-in-the-corruption-surrounding-trump/

[DMC]

I gave you exact answers to your specific questions. That’s all I got for you, I’m not gonna write you a dissertation:lol

tough guy

[ChumpDumper]

I gave you exact answers to your specific questions. That’s all I got for you, I’m not gonna write you a dissertation:lol

You did not.

[thispego]

You did not.

As best I could. Your questions are flawed. You asked why I thought trump felt he was above the law and I don’t think he is nor do I believe he feels like he is.

[ChumpDumper]

As best I could. Your questions are flawed. You asked why I thought trump felt he was above the law and I don’t think he is nor do I believe he feels like he is.What oversight to you think he is actually subject to by Congress then?

Why doesn't he just said the record straight using every legal avenue available to him?

[LkrFan]

Roger Stone, meet bus
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1209557101959426048?s=19

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

C:lolffee B:loly

[thispego]

What oversight to you think he is actually subject to by Congress then?

Why doesn't he just said the record straight using every legal avenue available to him?

He is subject to every bit of oversight by congress as every president before him. When Congress demonstrates that they want him removed from office by any means necessary, that line gets blurred. Dems shot themselves in the foot on this one.

[ChumpDumper]

He is subject to every bit of oversight by congress as every president before him. When Congress demonstrates that they want him removed from office by any means necessary, that line gets blurred. Dems shot themselves in the foot on this one.You think he's above the law if he feels put upon.

:lol

[pgardn]

He is subject to every bit of oversight by congress as every president before him. When Congress demonstrates that they want him removed from office by any means necessary, that line gets blurred. Dems shot themselves in the foot on this one.

The gun was in orange man’s tiny hand and he shot himself with that call.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1209702495964020737?s=19

[DMX7]

Roger Stone, meet bus
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1209557101959426048?s=19

:lol

He barely even knows Roger Stone. :lol

[Spurs Homer]

Probably the best xmas gift any american ever received....


Trump impeached!


:rollin:rollin:rollin



winning!

[ElNono]

Around the same time Tuesday, Trump’s campaign launched a website aimed at helping Trump supporters win arguments with their relatives during the holidays. The site, snowflakevictory.com, includes videos of Trump campaign officials coaching Trump supporters on how to argue with “liberal snowflakes” about several issues, including impeachment.

:lmao

Guess we know what Qhris is gonna be reading in Christmas...

Trumptards so retarded they need coaching to win arguments :rollin

[Spurs Homer]

Around the same time Tuesday, Trump’s campaign launched a website aimed at helping Trump supporters win arguments with their relatives during the holidays. The site, snowflakevictory.com, includes videos of Trump campaign officials coaching Trump supporters on how to argue with “liberal snowflakes” about several issues, including impeachment.

:lmao

Guess we know what Qhris is gonna be reading in Christmas...

Trumptards so retarded they need coaching to win arguments :rollin


here is an example;

”why do you support a criminal lying piece of shit traitor?”

snowflake response: “hillary, obama, the economy,fake news, obama keep your doctor lie, deep state, whaaaaa!”

[benefactor]

Around the same time Tuesday, Trump’s campaign launched a website aimed at helping Trump supporters win arguments with their relatives during the holidays. The site, snowflakevictory.com, includes videos of Trump campaign officials coaching Trump supporters on how to argue with “liberal snowflakes” about several issues, including impeachment.

:lmao

Guess we know what Qhris is gonna be reading in Christmas...

Trumptards so retarded they need coaching to win arguments :rollin
I've said many times that something is both hilarious and sad at the same time. There's nothing more hilariously sad than this.

[boutons_deux]

I've said many times that something is both hilarious and sad at the same time. There's nothing more hilariously sad than this.

"Trumptards so retarded they need coaching to win arguments"

50M? of them, USDA Grade A FDA-approved sheeple.

Shepherded around by snake oil salesman (religious, political, commercial), uneducated, unread, TeeVee-watching empty vessels ready to be filled/sold with self-defeating, indoctrination bullshit. aka, the Trash/Repug cult base.

[Spurs Homer]

Lol

trump and his captive illegal immigrant wife walked out of “mass” and reporters asked trump,

”did you pray for pelosi?”


:rollin:rollin




winning!

[boutons_deux]

This is how oligarchy/Christian supremacists incrementally destroy America, to be replaced by authoritarian one-party rule.

The Federal judiciary is the key, and the Repugs are polluting it, and will continue in 2020, with right-wing political ideologues in robes

‘The rule of law lost’:

Legendary constitutional trial lawyer flays Supreme Court for running interference for Trump

the significance of the court’s ultimate decisions in the three Trump-related cases it just agreed to review.

Those decisions, she says, will “give the country much-needed clarity” about whether the court is more loyal to President Trump than to the rule of law, before adding,

“But the fact that the court decided to review the cases tells us that it is more loyal to Mr. Trump.

The court has failed the loyalty test.”

the lower court decisions against the president were strong enough that no high court review should have been necessary.

“There was no good reason for the Supreme Court to review the rulings of the three federal circuit courts

that rendered decisions against Mr. Trump.

If those rulings had been left to stand,

the documents

(tax returns,

financial returns,

records of conversations) and testimony

that would damage this president, perhaps fatally, would have immediately been produced.

“There are reasons a Supreme Court should take a case.

Those reasons do not exist here.

All the court’s action does is

delay until the middle of next year — perhaps after the Senate trial —

the production of documents and people that the public is entitled to see and hear from.

That delay may well save Mr. Trump his presidency.”

verdict: “Mr. Trump won. The rule of law lost.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/the-rule-of-law-lost-legendary-constitutional-trial-lawyer-flays-supreme-court-for-running-interference-for-trump/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/19/opinion/sunday/trump-tax-supreme-court.html?searchResultPosition=1

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/25/opinion/letters/supreme-court-trump.html

The oligarchy SCOTUS whores are going to re-elect Trash, just like they elected dubya/dickhead and nearly two decades of MIC corporate welfare, with millions injured, maimed, displaced, dead.

America is fucked and unfuckable.

[pgardn]

:lol That phone call was fine. Not unlike any phone call between leaders of state. Y’all’s problem has been an inability to prove the intent that you’re so desperately hoping was present lmao

You are so dead wrong on this.
If you dont know the history of our democracy, you just wont get it.

[boutons_deux]

Trump fans rage at Murkowski for bashing McConnell on impeachment:

She ‘needs to shut her piehole and sit down’


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-fans-rage-at-murkowski-for-bashing-mcconnell-on-impeachment-she-needs-to-shut-her-piehole-and-sit-down/

[Spurs Homer]

Trump fans rage at Murkowski for bashing McConnell on impeachment:

She ‘needs to shut her piehole and sit down’


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-fans-rage-at-murkowski-for-bashing-mcconnell-on-impeachment-she-needs-to-shut-her-piehole-and-sit-down/


the ONLY republican in congress with a pair of balls is - of course

a woman

murkowski

[boutons_deux]

More evidence that this SCOTUS whore is nothing but an oligarchy/Repugs tool and Trash sycophant

Of all the media, where does he choose to pimp his shitty book?

Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch went on Fox & Friends to promote his book — and to echo the 'war on Christmas' myth

https://theweek.com/speedreads/884884/supreme-court-justice-neil-gorsuch-went-fox-news-promote-book--echo-war-christmas-myth (https://theweek.com/speedreads/884884/supreme-court-justice-neil-gorsuch-went-fox-news-promote-book--echo-war-christmas-myth)

Gorsuch also believes State and Church separation is bullshit, and of course, he's Christian, with some rotten Catholicism lurking.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Rogers-Stain-img.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Trump questions why House is ‘allowed to impeach the president’ in Christmas week Twitter eruption

“Why should Crazy Nancy Pelosi, just because she has a slight majority in the House, :lol elections have consequences, bitch

be allowed to Impeach the President of the United States?” :lol It's in the Constitution

“Got ZERO Republican votes, :lol there was no crime, :lol

the call with Ukraine was perfect, :lol

with ‘no pressure.'” :lol

Also, very unfair with no Due Process,:lol

proper representation, or witnesses. :lol

Now Pelosi is demanding everything

the Republicans weren’t allowed to have in the House. :lol

Dems want to run majority Republican Senate. Hypocrites!”

Trump consult the Constitution, which grants the House “sole power of impeachment.”

, the president must be given a fair trial in the Senate,” Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.) said in a statement earlier this month.

“Senator McConnell has promised to sabotage that trial :lol

and he must recuse himself.

No court in the country would allow a member of the jury to also serve as the accused’s defense attorney.”

Senate Democrats need at least four Republicans to break from their party in order to approve witnesses for the impeachment trial.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-questions-why-house-is-allowed-to-impeach-the-president-in-christmas-week-twitter-eruption/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3313 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-questions-why-house-is-allowed-to-impeach-the-president-in-christmas-week-twitter-eruption/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3313)

Trash is one sick mofo, and only the sickest, stupidest, dumbest, most ignorant mofos in his cult base would believe any of his shit.

[boutons_deux]

Mitch McConnell’s home state newspaper publishes scathing op-ed that accuses him of violating his oath of office

Louisville Courier Journal claims (https://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/2019/12/26/trump-impeachment-mitch-mcconnell-about-violate-two-oaths/2714462001/) that Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is

poised to violate his oath of office with his handling of President Donald

McConnell will violate his oath if he does not ensure that an impeachment trial in the Senate gets a full and fair hearing, which he says is required in the Constitution.

The framers wanted to make sure the Senate would never take such a trial lightly —

this oath requirement is over and above the oath each senator has already taken to support the Constitution,” he writes.

“The Constitution does not set out the text of the trial oath,

but the Senate rules do.

Senators will ‘solemnly swear… that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of Donald J. Trump, now pending,

I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: :lol not Bitch and his Senators

So help me God.'” :lol

“Short of declaring war, the Senate is about to conduct its gravest and most serious constitutional obligation —

to exercise the ‘sole power to try’ impeachments,”

History is watching, and it will be a harsh judge.” :lol fuck no!

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/mitch-mcconnells-home-state-newspaper-publishes-scathing-op-ed-that-accuses-him-of-violating-his-oath-of-office/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3313

McConnell receives 90% of his funding from OUT OF STATE, including $Ms from Wall St, as do all the other Repug whores, the oligarchy immunizing them from democracy.

[thispego]

You are so dead wrong on this.
If you dont know the history of our democracy, you just wont get it.

No I’m not wrong.

Enlighten me on the “history of our democracy” :lol

[ChumpDumper]

No I’m not wrong.

Enlighten me on the “history of our democracy” :lolWell I suppose you could enlighten us about all the other calls where a POTUS asked the head of another country for investigations of political rivals and parties while withholding military aid to that country.

[thispego]

Well I suppose you could enlighten us about all the other calls where a POTUS asked the head of another country for investigations of political rivals and parties while withholding military aid to that country.

That’s not what happened. sad that y’all actually believe that :lol

[thispego]

Well I suppose you could enlighten us about all the other calls where a POTUS asked the head of another country for investigations of political rivals and parties while withholding military aid to that country.

That’s not what happened. sad that y’all actually believe that :lol

[ChumpDumper]

That’s not what happened. sad that y’all actually believe that :lolWhat really happened?

Do tell.

[pgardn]

No I’m not wrong.

Enlighten me on the “history of our democracy” :lol

The British and French Both tried to influence the elections of a fledging democracy.
The founding fathers wrote and had extensive discussions on inviting foreign powers being allowed to play a role in our elections. This was an especially salient fear.

And so we have a president telling a new foreign president to use his government, including intelligence services, to find wrongdoing of a political component in the upcoming election? Are you fckn kidding me...

But you don’t see a problem. Oh the president has a right to mold his foreign policy around his re election instead of national interest because our president wanna be king thinks his re election is our national interest.

Seriously just stop...
You are an idiot. Enlighten YOU... you don’t want to have anything to do with understanding why this call was such a dumb fck move. Let’s let Iran and Saudi Arabia look into and fund candidates of their choice, it’s all good.

Globalist. You want OUR elections to be decided by outsiders. So cool.
And Trumpsters still looking for 2 million illegal votes... Go throw up in the mirror.

[pgardn]

That’s not what happened. sad that y’all actually believe that :lol

Our President released the information showing this is exactly what happened.
And now we no more. You actually believe the Earth is flat?

[TheGreatYacht]

Zionist Jews Are Orchestrating The Impeachment and Further Dividing The Country

https://www.bitchute.com/video/JbWuxwgdn47r/

Note: This video was taken down by YouTube and got TrueNews suspended from their platform.

[pgardn]

^

Makes absolutely no sense.
Trump has consistently shown interest in keeping and expanding Israeli dominance into the West Bank.
You are a nut as well.

[thispego]

The British and French Both tried to influence the elections of a fledging democracy.
The founding fathers wrote and had extensive discussions on inviting foreign powers being allowed to play a role in our elections. This was an especially salient fear.

And so we have a president telling a new foreign president to use his government, including intelligence services, to find wrongdoing of a political component in the upcoming election? Are you fckn kidding me...

But you don’t see a problem. Oh the president has a right to mold his foreign policy around his re election instead of national interest because our president wanna be king thinks his re election is our national interest.

Seriously just stop...
You are an idiot. Enlighten YOU... you don’t want to have anything to do with understanding why this call was such a dumb fck move. Let’s let Iran and Saudi Arabia look into and fund candidates of their choice, it’s all good.

Globalist. You want OUR elections to be decided by outsiders. So cool.
And Trumpsters still looking for 2 million illegal votes... Go throw up in the mirror.

The wrongdoing of Biden was out there already for all to see. Asking Ukraine to look further in to it is a perfectly reasonable request. Why shouldn’t other presidential candidates be subject to the same scrutiny as trump? What else do you want Trump to talk to the president of Ukraine about? This a mutual interest topic, Biden BOASTED about withholding aid from Ukraine. Trump admin did everything they could to make sure their withholding was within legal boundaries. Idiot :lol

So Trump only cares about “digging up dirt” on Biden? What about the other dozen democratic candidates? They pose no threat? You’re blind, sorry. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

[pgardn]

The wrongdoing of Biden was out there already for all to see. Asking Ukraine to look further in to it is a perfectly reasonable request. Why shouldn’t other presidential candidates be subject to the same scrutiny as trump? What else do you want Trump to talk to the president of Ukraine about? This a mutual interest topic, Biden BOASTED about withholding aid from Ukraine. Trump admin did everything they could to make sure their withholding was within legal boundaries. Idiot :lol

So Trump only cares about “digging up dirt” on Biden? What about the other dozen democratic candidates? They pose no threat? You’re blind, sorry. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

The president asked a foreign country and their intelligence services?
You don’t think the US ITSELF has this capability?

seriously you just don’t get it...
I warned you to stop.
But you decided to go ahead and make a fool of yourself.

[pgardn]

The wrongdoing of Biden was out there already for all to see. Asking Ukraine to look further in to it is a perfectly reasonable request. Why shouldn’t other presidential candidates be subject to the same scrutiny as trump? What else do you want Trump to talk to the president of Ukraine about? This a mutual interest topic, Biden BOASTED about withholding aid from Ukraine. Trump admin did everything they could to make sure their withholding was within legal boundaries. Idiot :lol

So Trump only cares about “digging up dirt” on Biden? What about the other dozen democratic candidates? They pose no threat? You’re blind, sorry. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

...

[ChumpDumper]

The wrongdoing of Biden was out there already for all to see. Asking Ukraine to look further in to it is a perfectly reasonable request. Why shouldn’t other presidential candidates be subject to the same scrutiny as trump? What else do you want Trump to talk to the president of Ukraine about? This a mutual interest topic, Biden BOASTED about withholding aid from Ukraine. Trump admin did everything they could to make sure their withholding was within legal boundaries. Idiot :lol

So Trump only cares about “digging up dirt” on Biden? What about the other dozen democratic candidates? They pose no threat? You’re blind, sorry. You don’t know what you’re talking about.So you're saying it went exactly the way I said it did.:tu

[Winehole23]

So what if he did it is the new defense. Just brazen it out.

[Spurs Homer]

The president asked a foreign country and their intelligence services?
You don’t think the US ITSELF has this capability?

seriously you just don’t get it...
I warned you to stop.
But you decided to go ahead and make a fool of yourself.

hes just trolling

he has been doing it daily and just throwing out debunked shit and everyone has destroyed his garbage conspiracies

but he is having fun just throwing his garbage out to gullible posters

[boutons_deux]

Trash outs the Ukraine whistleblower, committing a Federal felony, impeachable.

[boutons_deux]

Trump outed the whistleblower — and the internet wants Twitter to ban his account: ‘Truly deplorable’

There were calls for it be a new article of impeachment and for Twitter to ban the commander-in-chief’s account.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-outed-the-whistleblower-and-the-internet-wants-twitter-to-ban-his-account-truly-deplorable/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-outed-the-whistleblower-and-the-internet-wants-twitter-to-ban-his-account-truly-deplorable/)

[DMX7]

The whistle-blower doesn't even matter in this impeachment case anymore because essentially everything he/she wrote has been corroborated by witnesses/documents.

[baseline bum]

So what if he did it is the new defense. Just brazen it out.

It's the defense the right has been using for Trump for everything ever since 2015.

[Winehole23]

It's the defense the right has been using for Trump for everything ever since 2015.It usually starts with a bald denial. Then deflection and sliming accusers. At some point "it's not illegal" is trotted out.

The call with Zelenskiyy was unusual in the way bald denial and blunt admission were almost simultaneous.

[ElNono]

I’ve been traveling and didn’t have time to comment, but what the House is doing of procedurally delaying the trial in the Senate is, IMO, wrong on many levels. Even if we’re all aware the Senate won’t remove (and this was the case before the process started), and even if Mitch said what he said, the House simply has the facts and Constitutional duty to carry out its obligations, which they did, and there is where it ends. Mitch’s comments will simply reflect poorly on him when history is written, and the Dems would be wise to play it by the book unless they also want an ugly footnote in the history books.

[boutons_deux]

The whistle-blower doesn't even matter in this impeachment case anymore because essentially everything he/she wrote has been corroborated by witnesses/documents.

the whistle-blower OUTING by Trash is a different case, a different, additional A of I.

[Winehole23]

I’ve been traveling and didn’t have time to comment, but what the House is doing of procedurally delaying the trial in the Senate is, IMO, wrong on many levels. Even if we’re all aware the Senate won’t remove (and this was the case before the process started), and even if Mitch said what he said, the House simply has the facts and Constitutional duty to carry out its obligations, which they did, and there is where it ends. Mitch’s comments will simply reflect poorly on him when history is written, and the Dems would be wise to play it by the book unless they also want an ugly footnote in the history books.There's no book for the timing here. It's constitutional hardball, like Mitch deciding Merrick Garland doesn't get a hearing. If a better process in the Senate is the result it might have been worth it.

There's no reason to think Trump will stop grifting, particularly if there the Senate trial amounts to a speedy vote to acquit.

Why not hold impeachment over the President's head to make DJT think twice about doing it again?

[thispego]

The president asked a foreign country and their intelligence services?
You don’t think the US ITSELF has this capability?

seriously you just don’t get it...
I warned you to stop.
But you decided to go ahead and make a fool of yourself.

No. Burisma is in Ukraine. Shokin is Ukraine’s former prosecutor general. Ukraine has the ability to investigate their own without the U.S. having to spend their own $$ and man power - hence the “do us a favor, we don’t want to have to envestigate it ourselves, but we will if you won’t”

[thispego]

So you're saying it went exactly the way I said it did.:tu

Only you said it was illegal and impeachable :lol

[thispego]

hes just trolling

he has been doing it daily and just throwing out debunked shit and everyone has destroyed his garbage conspiracies

but he is having fun just throwing his garbage out to gullible posters
Typical response from the left when you say something they don’t agree with: it’s a conspiracy theory. Or if they really want to shut it down: a debunked conspiracy theory :lol

[thispego]

hes just trolling

he has been doing it daily and just throwing out debunked shit and everyone has destroyed his garbage conspiracies

but he is having fun just throwing his garbage out to gullible posters
Typical response from the left when you say something they don’t agree with: it’s a conspiracy theory. Or if they really want to shut it down: a debunked conspiracy theory :lol

[boutons_deux]

Why not hold impeachment over the President's head to make DJT think twice about doing it again?

Lawrence Tribe said deny Moscow Mitch his Russian show trial

by the House Dems not sending the Articles to the Senate,

then voting Trash guilty, and

passing a "Sense of the House" as icing on Trash's shit cake.

non-binding/non-removal, but it's the max the Dems can do to trash Trash forever in the Congressional record.

[LkrFan]

I’ve been traveling and didn’t have time to comment, but what the House is doing of procedurally delaying the trial in the Senate is, IMO, wrong on many levels. Even if we’re all aware the Senate won’t remove (and this was the case before the process started), and even if Mitch said what he said, the House simply has the facts and Constitutional duty to carry out its obligations, which they did, and there is where it ends. Mitch’s comments will simply reflect poorly on him when history is written, and the Dems would be wise to play it by the book unless they also want an ugly footnote in the history books.

I'm lukewarm on the timing of Pelosi turning over the goods to the corrupt Senate. Either way it's gonna look bad on both sides. I'm sure they will try to get some concessions before doing so.

I've read they are gonna impeach him on other infractions as well. There is so much he's done to choose from tbh :lol

Can a candidate run for re-election during multiple impeachment inquiries? :downspin:

[boutons_deux]

Either way it's gonna look bad on both sides.

I'm sure they will try to get some concessions before doing so.



Dem side is not "looking bad". They're doing their job. The Repugs are the BAD side supporting Trash's violations.

Based on, at least, Moscow Mitch LYING to Collins about shoring up insurance markets to get her vote, I wouldn't, nobody should, trust Moscow Bitch on anything.

[pgardn]

No. Burisma is in Ukraine. Shokin is Ukraine’s former prosecutor general. Ukraine has the ability to investigate their own without the U.S. having to spend their own $$ and man power - hence the “do us a favor, we don’t want to have to envestigate it ourselves, but we will if you won’t”

So Donald made a call to save money...

GTFOH.

Mr. Orange wall, soaring national debt makes this dumb fck call to save money.
And we have already got plenty on Bursima even before Trump was elected.

Just make stuff up and let the board shoot it down.

[Spurs Homer]

I’ve been traveling and didn’t have time to comment, but what the House is doing of procedurally delaying the trial in the Senate is, IMO, wrong on many levels. Even if we’re all aware the Senate won’t remove (and this was the case before the process started), and even if Mitch said what he said, the House simply has the facts and Constitutional duty to carry out its obligations, which they did, and there is where it ends. Mitch’s comments will simply reflect poorly on him when history is written, and the Dems would be wise to play it by the book unless they also want an ugly footnote in the history books.


seriously?

or are you trolling someone?

I say this because you usually have solid takes and this seems really - not - serious?

The EVIDENCE is overwhelming against trump and republicans come out and basically say “we dont give a fuck and we will have a sham trial and aquit our boy”

and your take is that pelosi not sending the articles is wrong?

seriously?

Are you an american? Do you care about the rule of law, the constitution, etc?

because - if the repugs get away with just ignoring the overwhelming evidence, the smoking gun and the confession from trump and the mulvaney confession-

and just cover it all up with a sham trial -

then ANY president can in the future;

1) commit any crime as long as one of the houses is in his corner
2) any president who wants to - can tell congress to go fuck themselves whenever they try ANY oversight
3) be a monarch



so your take is to blame Pelosi/dems for trying to assure a fair trial?

[thispego]

So Donald made a call to save money...

GTFOH.

Mr. Orange wall, soaring national debt makes this dumb fck call to save money.
And we have already got plenty on Bursima even before Trump was elected.

Just make stuff up and let the board shoot it down.
Do us a favor, investigate this corruption so we don’t have to.


No no no U.S. intelligence will only spend money on investigations into elected officials trying to root out corruption. You have no idea that you’re on the wrong side of history and it’s fascinating :lol

[boutons_deux]

"Mitch’s comments will simply reflect poorly on him when history is written"

He doesn't GAS about history. He is one of the wealthiest Senators after 40 years in govt (it's why they all run, to become (more) wealthy),

and married $$$, with his FIL willing the couple many up to $25M

"the Dems would be wise to play it by the book unless they also want an ugly footnote in the history books".

Moscow Bitch Mitch has announced/bragged he is colluding with the defendant to produce a Russian show trial of a farce.

Dems have no obligation to let him do it, and will be lauded historically if the don't.

[Spurs Homer]

"Mitch’s comments will simply reflect poorly on him when history is written"

He doesn't GAS about history. He is one of the wealthiest Senators after 40 years in govt (it's why they all run, to become (more) wealthy),

and married $$$, with his FIL willing the couple many up to $25M

"the Dems would be wise to play it by the book unless they also want an ugly footnote in the history books".

Moscow Bitch Mitch has announced/bragged he is colluding with the defendant to produce a Russian show trial of a farce.

Dems have no obligation to let him do it, and will be lauded historically if the don't.





exactly!

now -just for fun- imagine if.....

black dem prez obama

was impeached and he had a dem senate and dem senate leader says
”fuck the law fuck the constitution - there is zero chance my boy will be removed”

imagine fox news 24/7 heads exploding howling about “sacred duty” “rule of law” “dictator”

and the gop clutching their pearls lol

you KNOW obama would be FORCED to testify
imagine the howls of “what is black man hiding?”

[ChumpDumper]

Only you said it was illegal and impeachable :lol
I didn't even say that in my post. You tried to pretend the actual facts didn't happen. You need to pick a lane and stick with it.

And let me know when other Presidents have done exactly what you agreed happened here.

It's your claim. Back it up.

[ElNono]

I know it’s not a popular opinion, especially to those fervently looking for revenge (much more than justice). Look, it’s not happening in this impeachment proceedings. Get that out of your head right now. It wasn’t happening when this process started and it won’t be happening now. You knew the Senate wouldn’t remove, because it *is* a political process, not a judicial one.

That doesn’t mean the process shouldn’t have happened. It matters historically, and that’s what people coming after us, hopefully looking back to make sure they don’t make the same mistakes, will look at.

Mitch is a sinister character for our democracy. So is Dear Leader. History should reflect that front and center, because you can’t politically win the short game, but if you want to win the long one, you need to make sure not to get right smack in the middle of the people that did the wrong thing.

Take the Garland example, since Wino brought it up. Mitch universally shat on the Constitution, I think we can all agree on that. Is the response to shit on the Constitution to spite him too? That’s not right. You’re supposed to be better and hold the higher standard.

IMO anyways

[hater]

bad take ^ tbqh

Demorats have been working of couping trump since before day 1. the russia hoax is living proof of that. once the russia hoax blew up in their faces they went ahead with plan b and the “call” leaked by a know anti trump CIA agent nontheless Ciaramella

and now this impeachment Bs where pelotufosi is even afraid of sending to senate. its like they are not even trying anymore :lmao

I think they are fine with 4 more years of Dump rather than risking a Bernie presidency.

its been all a farce since day one and no it should not have happenend.

[boutons_deux]

"Mitch universally shat on the Constitution"

Moscow Bitch did not violate the Constituion. He played very hard ball behind the lie "no SCOTUS justice (from the Dems) in an election year", but lying is not illegal, nor is screwing Obama/Garland.

Moscow Bitch KNOWINGLY violates/annuls every rule, agreement, convention, protocol to obtain/maintain power and deny power to the opposition. But it's all legal.

Trash IGNORANTLY violates/annuls every rule, agreement, convention, protocol

[LkrFan]

I stopped reading right here:

bad take ^ tbqh

Demorats have been working of couping trump since before day 1. the russia hoax is living proof of that. once the russia hoax.
SMH

[hater]

I stopped reading right here:

SMH

why? russia hoax is one of the more embarrasing conspiracy theory in history

made US look like a shithole country

embarrasing tbqh

its equivalent to Kevin Durant being found out he has a Kevin sperm shielding troll account :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

I stopped reading right here:

SMH


yup

russian propaganda

just a troll seeking attention

[hater]

^ oh look a straight A student in Maxine Waters School of Science :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

^ oh look a straight A student in Maxine Waters School of Science :lmao

wanna know who “called it?”




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qIN1-z_JqQ


:lol

[hater]

:lmao #stillwithher ^

[ElNono]

We’re not talking about any conspiracy here. We’re talking about our democracy and carrying out the job these people swore an oath to defend beyond partisanship or gotchas.

Neither the GOP nor the Dems are saints when it comes to all this, but doubling down on stupid isn’t a winning strategy either. Neither base can win an election in this country, you have to convince the non-partisan to cast a vote for you and so despite the small battles, the war is won demonstrating you can raise above the fray and do what’s right for the country, beyond your personal or partisan interests.

After all, Orangina won his election with the image of an outsider, fighting special interests, above the partisan divide (remember how he wasn’t going to endorse the GOP candidate if it wasn’t him?). He’s predictably none of those things, and corrupt to the core, no doubt about it.

Dems will not win the impeachment battle. That’s fine, they already are on the record historically opposing this clown, which will go down as one of the worst presidents in American history.

[ElNono]

Point is, that was their duty. They did their job. Now the Senate should do theirs and then let people vote next year.

[hater]

^ disagree again on the “trump was terrible” tbqh

as much as I detest Trump, best evonomic growth in decades, relative peace, very few american soldier deaths, job growth.

so far this Trump presidency is pretty pretty good and will go down inhistory that way

[Reck]

^ disagree again on the “trump was terrible” tbqh

as much as I detest Trump, best evonomic growth in decades, relative peace, very few american soldier deaths, job growth.

so far this Trump presidency is pretty pretty good and will go down inhistory that way

Damn you’re deep in Trump’s ass my dude.

[hater]

Damn you’re deep in Trump’s ass my dude.

just call it like it is tbqh

Im no partisan muppet

:lmao believing in the 2 party democracy farce :lol

:lol thinking the USA is a democracy

[Reck]

just call it like it is tbqh

Im no partisan muppet

:lmao believing in the 2 party democracy farce :lol

:lol thinking the USA is a democracy

Like parliament is doing much better? Germany and UK are far and away in a shittier place than us politically.

[hater]

Like parliament is doing much better? Germany and UK are far and away in a shittier place than us politically.

dont disagree with that tbqh

uk parliament is a joke and has been for ages. toothless brits are one of the most controlled muppets in the world

germany is a tad bit better than both us and uk

[ElNono]

^ disagree again on the “trump was terrible” tbqh

as much as I detest Trump, best evonomic growth in decades, relative peace, very few american soldier deaths, job growth.

so far this Trump presidency is pretty pretty good and will go down inhistory that way

He received a great economy on the way up. He should get credit for not fucking it up.

Outside of that, he’s a terrible leader, divisive, unpopular, xenophobe, corrupt, ignorant, vain, petty... the worst qualities you can put on a person, he has them all.

Most all of his adlib policies (NK, tariffs, Paris agreement, Embassy on Jerusalem, immigration, etc) have done nothing for the US if not outright backfired. He’s not even interested in the country but his own petty personal goals.

Why do you detest him? Because he’s a bumbling idiot. You just enjoy he triggers dem libs, which has nothing to do with what we’re discussing. I’m not even advancing here Shillary would’ve been better (she’s irrelevant since ‘16).

But, regardless how we feel about POTUS, the point is that the Dems stooping down to clown level to match these guys is not better for this country in the long run. You don’t want this to be the new normal.

[hater]

we are discussing his presidency which so far has been a good one for the facts I described

didnt get us into stupid wars

didnt sink economy

on the contrary peace increased and economy increased.

we can talk about him being a clown all day but we in terms of his presidency and those 2 most important aspects(war and economy). its been great

[ElNono]

The topic I made a comment on was his impeachment proceeding, particularly the Dems course of action. Tangentially I pointed out his performance as POTUS.

I’m more interested in discussing the former. Frankly, I disagree with you on the later and that’s fine. I base my opinion on his dismal job approval throughout 3 years, despite a good economy, and a recent poll (I’ll try to find a link, hard to do on the road) where ~40% of respondents believe his presidency will be ranked as ‘poor’ when all is said and done.

But back to the topic at hand, I think it’s a mistake for Dems to play procedural hardball on this. It’s a battle they can’t win.

[hater]

the impeachment will go down in history as a mere partisan ploy same as the Clinton one

historians will take a look at the vote tally and see no republicans sided with democrats thus name it an obvious partisan move. no more no less

I actually think history will show this impeachment was proven mbarrasing and a joke on democrats and the backlash thats coming to them will back that up

[spurraider21]

the impeachment will go down in history as a mere partisan ploy same as the Clinton one

historians will take a look at the vote tally and see no republicans sided with democrats thus name it an obvious partisan move. no more no less

I actually think history will show this impeachment was proven mbarrasing and a joke on democrats and the backlash thats coming to them will back that up
clinton was impeached because he got a blowjob and then tried to cover it up

trump is getting impeached because he committed an impeachable offense and then tried to cover it up

[boutons_deux]

Supreme Court Lawyer:

Latest Poll Numbers Show ‘Trying to Hide Evidence’

Isn’t Helping Trump

support for President Donald Trump’s removal from office has reached its highest point yet, at 55-percent.

While some critics of the president believe this indicates that “hiding evidence” from the American people isn’t going over well,

others are advising a wait-and-see approach.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMqa27vX0AUkhMv.png

Supreme Court litigator and former acting U.S. Solicitor General Neal Katyal.

“Trump trying to hide evidence from the American people is not helping him,” Katyal concluded (https://twitter.com/neal_katyal/status/1210300295554580481?s=20).

the numbers also showed

“many people moving from ‘opposition’ to ‘don’t know,’”

which could have significant implications for Trump’s public support.

the numbers appear to reflect voters’ frustration with:

the White House’s refusal to cooperate with congressional impeachment investigators;

leading GOP Senators’ unwillingness to hear more from key witnesses

like Mick Mulvaney and John Bolton about the withholding of military aid to Ukraine.

“This polling is a clear sign that Republican policy of complete obstruction is not selling well to voting public.”

https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/supreme-court-lawyer-latest-poll-numbers-show-trying-to-hide-evidence-isnt-helping-trump/ (https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/supreme-court-lawyer-latest-poll-numbers-show-trying-to-hide-evidence-isnt-helping-trump/)

[weebo]

bad take ^ tbqh

Demorats have been working of couping trump since before day 1. the russia hoax is living proof of that. once the russia hoax blew up in their faces they went ahead with plan b and the “call” leaked by a know anti trump CIA agent nontheless Ciaramella

and now this impeachment Bs where pelotufosi is even afraid of sending to senate. its like they are not even trying anymore :lmao

I think they are fine with 4 more years of Dump rather than risking a Bernie presidency.

its been all a farce since day one and no it should not have happenend.

Hey bro..how many portraits do you have of dear leader hanging on your walls?

[ElNono]

clinton was impeached because he got a blowjob and then tried to cover it up

trump is getting impeached because he committed an impeachable offense and then tried to cover it up

Frankly, IMO, both Trump and Biden will be historically judged harshly, and rightly so. If Dems understand the long game, and considering they have the upper hand there (based on on a number of items, like policy, demographics, etc), they should be aware that Biden is the wrong candidate.

[hater]

clinton was impeached because he got a blowjob and then tried to cover it up

trump is getting impeached because he committed an impeachable offense and then tried to cover it up

“tried to cover up the blowjob” != perjury tbqh

dont rewrite history

[hater]

Hey bro..how many portraits do you have of dear leader hanging on your walls?

none tbqh

I dont even like the orange bastard :lol

but as I always said. we dodged a bullet by him beating Shitler :lol

[boutons_deux]

clinton was impeached because he got a blowjob" LIE :lol

"then tried to cover it up" LIE

he got impeached for "lying" to grand jury, having been indicted for civil acts BEFORE office (why not Trash?), SOTUS 9-0 said he was indictable.

He tried to define sex only as penile penetration of vagina, which didn't happen, AFAWK.

Apparently, for some sex-weird, sex-hung-up southern Christians, that is their definition.

[weebo]

none tbqh

I dont even like the orange bastard :lol

but as I always said. we dodged a bullet by him beating Shitler :lol


uh huh

[Spurs Homer]

The topic I made a comment on was his impeachment proceeding, particularly the Dems course of action. Tangentially I pointed out his performance as POTUS.

I’m more interested in discussing the former. Frankly, I disagree with you on the later and that’s fine. I base my opinion on his dismal job approval throughout 3 years, despite a good economy, and a recent poll (I’ll try to find a link, hard to do on the road) where ~40% of respondents believe his presidency will be ranked as ‘poor’ when all is said and done.

But back to the topic at hand, I think it’s a mistake for Dems to play procedural hardball on this. It’s a battle they can’t win.


Still disagree with your main point here - let me give you two scenario's - #1 - is what I basically understand you are calling for - and #2 - what I think they should do:

#1 - Dems just lay down and die right now - and say "well we did our job - don't want to rock the boat anymore because our tail between the legs demographic does not want us to look too partisan or too overly-political!"
So - they just allow moscow mitch to rig the trial and hope history is kind. The Repug Senate just quietly acquits him and no other drama unfolds - and people will have mostly forgotten by November 2020.



#2) Pelosi plays hardball. Demands that the senate be fair and impartial. Dems insist on witnesses and also request for Trump to testify under oath - and force a vote where all americans can watch which Senators vote to make trump accountable and which senators try to cover up trumps crimes. Witnesses testify and if lucky - the trial goes on into the summer of 2020 -

in the end -

with Americans as witness - the vote takes place and after EVEN MORE EVIDENCE is introduced - republicans STILL acquit the traitor -


then Dems can stand proudly and say - vote your conscience. Or - in a perfect world -

the world sees the evidence and the american public - DEMANDS that ALL senators vote to convict - as required by the constitution.

[TheGreatYacht]

Trump Fundraising Skyrockets Post Impeachment

https://youtu.be/xzi7Q6RuUFI

[ElNono]

#2 is not happening with Mitch at the helm, sorry. He simply has the authority not to bring that to a vote, and he will not. No amount of bickering will change that.

Forget about the Senate trial. Unless they’re planning to hold the articles until after the election, with the hope of switching the Senate (which would be a grave mistake), there’s simply no scenario where this works out the way you want it to work out.

The best that the Dems can do is let the record show it was the Senate that carried out the dereliction of duty. There’s simply much better things for them to campaign on going into 2020, like healthcare, than having an impeachment process they can’t win take front and center and allow Trump to continue to play the victim card.

[ElNono]

BTW, other than trolling Trump, the House has zero leverage.

[Spurs Homer]

#2 is not happening with Mitch at the helm, sorry. He simply has the authority not to bring that to a vote, and he will not. No amount of bickering will change that.

Forget about the Senate trial. Unless they’re planning to hold the articles until after the election, with the hope of switching the Senate (which would be a grave mistake), there’s simply no scenario where this works out the way you want it to work out.

The best that the Dems can do is let the record show it was the Senate that carried out the dereliction of duty. There’s simply much better things for them to campaign on going into 2020, like healthcare, than having an impeachment process they can’t win take front and center and allow Trump to continue to play the victim card.

Not the way I understood it -

I may be wrong - but I am under the impression that ANY senator can make a request - and ask for a vote - and also that (at least Schumer) the dems can also demand a vote - where 51 votes are needed on any motion?

I get that the entire planet is 100% SURE - about the 67 votes to convict - NEVER happening -


but this is why you play the long game -

you rally for votes to be taken on witnesses, documents and other evidence - and FORCE every senator to go down in history as either being impartial jurors -

or part of a sham.

Record the votes - or better yet - show it on TV and force them to face the public - for better or worse.


I am pretty sure - that what Moscow Mitch is praying for is for what YOU are advocating for -
which is basically - let the Repugs off the hook and just make it easy for them to rig the trial and acquit trump UNDER THE RADAR -


Fuck that.

[Spurs Homer]

oh yeah - btw:

as far as LEVERAGE?

Here it is:

The fucking fact that Trump did what he is being accused of and there is SOLID EVIDENCE - SOLID PROOF -


THERE'S your fucking leverage!

Force the country to pay attention and force the repugs and force trump to either;

Testify under oath, allow the main witnesses to testify under oath, and allow the evidence and documents/emails/texts -

to be provided -

or

show the country how much of a COVER UP it is.

That would be the LAST thing moscow mitch wants.

[Reck]

BTW, other than trolling Trump, the House has zero leverage.

That in itself is leverage. Triggering Trump and making him look like a total unhinged loser is likely (but not really) to make the in-danger republicans want to at least have some witnesses to make the trial half rigged.

[ElNono]

Not the way I understood it -

I may be wrong - but I am under the impression that ANY senator can make a request - and ask for a vote - and also that (at least Schumer) the dems can also demand a vote - where 51 votes are needed on any motion?

I get that the entire planet is 100% SURE - about the 67 votes to convict - NEVER happening -


but this is why you play the long game -

you rally for votes to be taken on witnesses, documents and other evidence - and FORCE every senator to go down in history as either being impartial jurors -

or part of a sham.

Record the votes - or better yet - show it on TV and force them to face the public - for better or worse.


I am pretty sure - that what Moscow Mitch is praying for is for what YOU are advocating for -
which is basically - let the Repugs off the hook and just make it easy for them to rig the trial and acquit trump UNDER THE RADAR -


Fuck that.

Procedurally, any senator can request what’s known as a “up or down vote”. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says the Senate must honor that, however, that’s why it’s intrinsically procedural.

However, that doesn’t apply to an impeachment proceeding either. What’s going to happen in the Senate is what happened in the House: there will be a set of rules crafted by the majority to conduct the trial, and voted overwhelmingly on party lines, and that’s how the trial will be conducted.

While Schumer requested that those rules include X or Y, there simply won’t be any such thing, as the Dems simply do not have any leverage or numbers to make any claims, plus Mitch simply does not care that his Senate even pretends to have any sort of fairness in the process and has said as much.

This is really a battle the Dems can’t win as far as removal goes. It doesn’t mean they should just give up and hand Trump a second term, it would be much wiser to focus on the big picture, where they clearly have an advantage.

[ElNono]

That in itself is leverage. Triggering Trump and making him look like a total unhinged loser is likely (but not really) to make the in-danger republicans want to at least have some witnesses to make the trial half rigged.

It might work for the Dem base, but that’s exactly who he’s been for the past 3 years. Everybody knows he’s a unhinges con man. That’s not going to change any Senate rules.

[Spurs Homer]

Procedurally, any senator can request what’s known as a “up or down vote”. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says the Senate must honor that, however, that’s why it’s intrinsically procedural.

However, that doesn’t apply to an impeachment proceeding either. What’s going to happen in the Senate is what happened in the House: there will be a set of rules crafted by the majority to conduct the trial, and voted overwhelmingly on party lines, and that’s how the trial will be conducted.

While Schumer requested that those rules include X or Y, there simply won’t be any such thing, as the Dems simply do not have any leverage or numbers to make any claims, plus Mitch simply does not care that his Senate even pretends to have any sort of fairness in the process and has said as much.

This is really a battle the Dems can’t win as far as removal goes. It doesn’t mean they should just give up and hand Trump a second term, it would be much wiser to focus on the big picture, where they clearly have an advantage.

Schumer stated that he could force votes -

so I will take him at his word for now -

he specifically stated that he could force a vote and force senators like romney and collins and gardner to have to vote and if they choose to just vote (51 votes) to have zero witnesses and zero trial - then so be it =

their constituents would then decide their fates.

It would be pretty damning if those senators go along with a complete sham and then lose their senate seats -

the conventional thinking is that those vulnerable senators at least want to "make it appear to be fair"

so this is where Schumer will press hardest on.

[Blake]

Trash outs the Ukraine whistleblower, committing a Federal felony, impeachable.

There'll be less and less whistle blowers in the future

[spurraider21]

oh yeah - btw:

as far as LEVERAGE?

Here it is:

The fucking fact that Trump did what he is being accused of and there is SOLID EVIDENCE - SOLID PROOF -


THERE'S your fucking leverage!

Force the country to pay attention and force the repugs and force trump to either;

Testify under oath, allow the main witnesses to testify under oath, and allow the evidence and documents/emails/texts -

to be provided -

or

show the country how much of a COVER UP it is.

That would be the LAST thing moscow mitch wants.
the house has no leverage in that senate ultimately controls the trial proceedings.

house holding the articles does nothing to force the senate's hand. as as mitch is concerned, he has no problem with the articles not being delivered to the senate tbh

[boutons_deux]

There'll be less and less whistle blowers in the future

USA has nearly always persecuted or variously screwed or imprisoned whistlblowers.

In the current Trash atmosphere of hate and violence, I would not be surprised if Trash's whistleblower were murdered.

[Spurs Homer]

the house has no leverage in that senate ultimately controls the trial proceedings.

house holding the articles does nothing to force the senate's hand. as as mitch is concerned, he has no problem with the articles not being delivered to the senate tbh


That is what moscow mitch is saying- but not necessarily true.

There are vulnerable senators that have to be careful and - yes- they might be forced to actually vote

yes - mcconnell has control - but he ultimately wants to stay in majority control of the senate- so he can rig the trial at his own peril

also

trump will whine and cry and pressure mitch to acquit him BEFORE the SOTU

- you think trump wants to give his SOTU address while the trial is still pending- or worse yet - ongoing?

I dont think mitch is just free to do whatever he wants- he also has to be very careful in how he plays this.

[ElNono]

Schumer stated that he could force votes -

so I will take him at his word for now -

he specifically stated that he could force a vote and force senators like romney and collins and gardner to have to vote and if they choose to just vote (51 votes) to have zero witnesses and zero trial - then so be it =

their constituents would then decide their fates.

It would be pretty damning if those senators go along with a complete sham and then lose their senate seats -

the conventional thinking is that those vulnerable senators at least want to "make it appear to be fair"

so this is where Schumer will press hardest on.

Yeah, no. I mean, let’s suppose Schumer forces a vote and all those senators vote yes, we want witnesses. It’s non-binding, because they’re not voting on the actual trial rules. Mitch will simply not bring up the vote on the rules until he has the yes votes on no witnesses and anything else he wants to pass.

And so, ultimately, it really doesn’t matter what Schumer wants vs what Schumer can get. That’s why he went to the press before even trying to negotiate anything, so he could hope public opinion would force Mitch’s hand. But it won’t, because Mitch don’t really give a fuck about looks.

[ElNono]

That is what moscow mitch is saying- but not necessarily true.

There are vulnerable senators that have to be careful and - yes- they might be forced to actually vote

yes - mcconnell has control - but he ultimately wants to stay in majority control of the senate- so he can rig the trial at his own peril

also

trump will whine and cry and pressure mitch to acquit him BEFORE the SOTU

- you think trump wants to give his SOTU address while the trial is still pending- or worse yet - ongoing?

I dont think mitch is just free to do whatever he wants- he also has to be very careful in how he plays this.

I might be misguided here, but there’s no scenario with the current Senate makeup I can see where:

A) The House has any leverage whatsoever to force the Senate rules to be ‘fair’
B) The Senate minority has any power to do anything whatsoever about it
C) Trump is not only not removed but completely exonerated in a straight party line vote

But we all knew this when the process started, so it shouldn’t be a surprise. It doesn’t invalidate the process itself either.

That’s why I was pointing out that justice will have to come at a later date, and the House would be wise to understand that too.

[Winehole23]

I know it’s not a popular opinion, especially to those fervently looking for revenge (much more than justice). Look, it’s not happening in this impeachment proceedings. Get that out of your head right now. It wasn’t happening when this process started and it won’t be happening now. You knew the Senate wouldn’t remove, because it *is* a political process, not a judicial one.

That doesn’t mean the process shouldn’t have happened. It matters historically, and that’s what people coming after us, hopefully looking back to make sure they don’t make the same mistakes, will look at.

Mitch is a sinister character for our democracy. So is Dear Leader. History should reflect that front and center, because you can’t politically win the short game, but if you want to win the long one, you need to make sure not to get right smack in the middle of the people that did the wrong thing.

Take the Garland example, since Wino brought it up. Mitch universally shat on the Constitution, I think we can all agree on that. Is the response to shit on the Constitution to spite him too? That’s not right. You’re supposed to be better and hold the higher standard.

IMO anywaysI think it's reasonable to take the information as parceled out by the courts. There's zero reason to think Trump will cease grifting

[boutons_deux]

rts. There's zero reason to think Trump will cease grifting

If Nancy allows Moscow Mitch to run his Russian show trial and "exonerate" criminal Trash, Trash will be much worse in every sense in 2020.

I read that Dems are looking into more A of I using Mueller's multiple cases of Trash obstructing investigations.

[ElNono]

I think it's reasonable to take the information as parceled out by the courts. There's zero reason to think Trump will cease grifting

Sure, but this isn’t a court proceeding, it’s a political proceeding. The kind of ‘justice’ some people are looking for, based on facts, will have to wait.

[boutons_deux]

Sure, but this isn’t a court proceeding, it’s a political proceeding. The kind of ‘justice’ some people are looking for, based on facts, will have to wait.

There are FACTS in the A of I, and FACTS in Mueller, no need to wait.

And more FACTS, impeach Kavanaugh for lying in his confirmation hearings.

[Spurs Homer]

I might be misguided here, but there’s no scenario with the current Senate makeup I can see where:

A) The House has any leverage whatsoever to force the Senate rules to be ‘fair’
B) The Senate minority has any power to do anything whatsoever about it
C) Trump is not only not removed but completely exonerated in a straight party line vote

But we all knew this when the process started, so it shouldn’t be a surprise. It doesn’t invalidate the process itself either.

That’s why I was pointing out that justice will have to come at a later date, and the House would be wise to understand that too.

you might be correct

however

pelosi could try something different-
for example- she could hold the articles and wait for the June court rulings which could give the dems all the documents and possible force witnesses to testify

that would be a ballsy move but history and the american public would have to be pretty favorable if this was all in a quest for the truth and a fair trial

i just see no scenario where it is better for the dems to roll over and stop fighting now

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1210930908813025281?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1210930908813025281?s=19
1210946790104666113

Why would Biden testify if Donald Trump is on trial, Qhris?

[ElNono]

you might be correct

however

pelosi could try something different-
for example- she could hold the articles and wait for the June court rulings which could give the dems all the documents and possible force witnesses to testify

that would be a ballsy move but history and the american public would have to be pretty favorable if this was all in a quest for the truth and a fair trial

i just see no scenario where it is better for the dems to roll over and stop fighting now

There’s a risk that people just stop caring about it. See: Benghazi. You can only stretch something for so long before it turns into attention whoring and fake outrage.

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1210930908813025281?s=19

hmm... interesting... where's the leftist outcry though?

[Spurs Homer]

There’s a risk that people just stop caring about it. See: Benghazi. You can only stretch something for so long before it turns into attention whoring and fake outrage.

Maybe - but there is a huge difference -

Benghazi was just repugs playing politics -and there was ZERO case, ZERO evidence, and no one gave a shit -
same as the EMAIL thing - no one gave two fucks about emails - and all you have to do to bring some perspective into this one - is to look at Jared/Ivanka and half the white house staff doing worse email shit than shitlery -

to see why that went nowhere.


In this case the evidence is overwhelming and we have a smoking gun, a confession from the criminal traitor, a confession from his chief of staff, 18 trump admin witnesses to corroborate the fuckery and all this -

WITHOUT one shred of cooperation/documents/witnesses from the traitor -


so this is just another universe and yes - people will care enough about this to boot a shitload of repugs out of office IF the dems play this right - and rolling over now is not an option.

[Chris]

hmm... interesting... where's the leftist outcry though?

Chump's response was orange man bad. I'm guessing that is consensus for the resistance.

[ElNono]

Maybe - but there is a huge difference -

Benghazi was just repugs playing politics -and there was ZERO case, ZERO evidence, and no one gave a shit -
same as the EMAIL thing - no one gave two fucks about emails - and all you have to do to bring some perspective into this one - is to look at Jared/Ivanka and half the white house staff doing worse email shit than shitlery -

to see why that went nowhere.


In this case the evidence is overwhelming and we have a smoking gun, a confession from the criminal traitor, a confession from his chief of staff, 18 trump admin witnesses to corroborate the fuckery and all this -

WITHOUT one shred of cooperation/documents/witnesses from the traitor -


so this is just another universe and yes - people will care enough about this to boot a shitload of repugs out of office IF the dems play this right - and rolling over now is not an option.

The House did the right thing going through the process on their end. Holding up the Senate trial is textbook playing politics.

Let the senate have their clown show, then people will get to cast a vote soon after. There’s really nothing else for the House to do

[ElNono]

hmm... interesting... where's the leftist outcry though?

Why would there be any outcry? Biden is not on trial.

[pgardn]

hmm... interesting... where's the leftist outcry though?

Was Biden impeached?

When?

Or does the blue team just want him on the stand to confirm he is a candidate for president therefore Trump did invite and in fact call for a foreign country to interfere in our presidential election?

[boutons_deux]

The House did the right thing going through the process on their end. Holding up the Senate trial is textbook playing politics.

Let the senate have their clown show, then people will get to cast a vote soon after. There’s really nothing else for the House to do

wrong.

Dems can withhold A of I from the colluding Moscow Mitch to prelude his Russian trial

House Dems can vote up a "Sense of the House" essentially convicting Trash

Dems are continuing to look at Mueller report for more A of I for obstruction.

Trash retaliating against the whistleblower, "punching back" at the "rat", on official White House announcement, by outing him is Federal crime, impeachable.

[boutons_deux]

Trump did not actually delete tweet outing the whistleblower — it is ‘visible all around the world’

The whistleblower has been largely irrelevant since

Trump, acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and defense attorney Rudy Giuliani all substantiated the initial complaint.“

On Saturday night Twitter said a software bug caused the blackout.

A Twitter spokesman confirmed that Trump’s account, plus millions of other accounts, were affected by the bug.

Bottom line: Trump’s retweet containing the purported name is still visible all around the world,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-did-not-actually-delete-tweet-outing-the-whistleblower-it-is-visible-all-around-the-world/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-did-not-actually-delete-tweet-outing-the-whistleblower-it-is-visible-all-around-the-world/)

[Spurs Homer]

Trump did not actually delete tweet outing the whistleblower — it is ‘visible all around the world’

The whistleblower has been largely irrelevant since

Trump, acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and defense attorney Rudy Giuliani all substantiated the initial complaint.“

On Saturday night Twitter said a software bug caused the blackout.

A Twitter spokesman confirmed that Trump’s account, plus millions of other accounts, were affected by the bug.

Bottom line: Trump’s retweet containing the purported name is still visible all around the world,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-did-not-actually-delete-tweet-outing-the-whistleblower-it-is-visible-all-around-the-world/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-did-not-actually-delete-tweet-outing-the-whistleblower-it-is-visible-all-around-the-world/)





”its ok, future presidents can commit felonies at will with zero consequences- any future prez of any party”

[boutons_deux]

”its ok, future presidents can commit felonies at will with zero consequences- any future prez of any party”

... precisely the strategy of the Repugs, setting the table for the next Repug Pres to be even more authoritarian and unaccountable and destructive

[Spurs Homer]

... precisely the strategy of the Repugs, setting the table for the next Repug Pres to be even more authoritarian and unaccountable and destructive

or it could backfire...


maybe one day we will get a nice muslim dem prez and let the howling and clutching of pearls commence...

[koriwhat]

Why would there be any outcry? Biden is not on trial.


Was Biden impeached?

When?

Or does the blue team just want him on the stand to confirm he is a candidate for president therefore Trump did invite and in fact call for a foreign country to interfere in our presidential election?

:lmao the left cries everything trump but when biden wants to skirt the senate and a real fucking subpoena well it'll be funny when him and his crackhead son both get thrown in the click.

[ElNono]

:lmao the left cries everything trump but when biden wants to skirt the senate and a real fucking subpoena well it'll be funny when him and his crackhead son both get thrown in the click.

I’m one of the biggest Biden haters in this site, tbh.

The whole ‘triggering dem libs’ still doesn’t answer why Biden should be subpoenaed, when the one on trial is Trump...

[thispego]

I’m one of the biggest Biden haters in this site, tbh.

The whole ‘triggering dem libs’ still doesn’t answer why Biden should be subpoenaed, when the one on trial is Trump...

To prove grounds that Trump rightfully pursued a joint investigation in to Ukrainian corruption by Biden. Wtf else would Biden be subpoenaed?

[Spurs Homer]

To prove grounds that Trump rightfully pursued a joint investigation in to Ukrainian corruption by Biden. Wtf else would Biden be subpoenaed?


hahahaha troll!

that propaganda has been debunked by everyone -

the bidens were never guilty or credibly accused by anyone reputable -


also -

sure - put him on the stand - right AFTER - Ivanka, Don Jr., Jared, etc...
but trump doesn't really give a shit about corruption - neither do you - troll!

[koriwhat]

I’m one of the biggest Biden haters in this site, tbh.

The whole ‘triggering dem libs’ still doesn’t answer why Biden should be subpoenaed, when the one on trial is Trump...

well, he got roped into all this with his nefarious QPQ... :lmao

[thispego]

hahahaha troll!

that propaganda has been debunked by everyone -

the bidens were never guilty or credibly accused by anyone reputable -


also -

sure - put him on the stand - right AFTER - Ivanka, Don Jr., Jared, etc...
but trump doesn't really give a shit about corruption - neither do you - troll!
Ahh there it is; debunked! Propaganda! Conspiracy theory! :lol :lol

[koriwhat]

Ahh there it is; debunked! Propaganda! Conspiracy theory! :lol :lol

these lefty's are all the same turn-the-other-cheek when it comes to their own false idols in DC.

[thispego]

these lefty's are all the same turn-the-other-cheek when it comes to their own false idols in DC.

It’s fuckin pathetic and disgusting :rolleyes

[koriwhat]

It’s fuckin pathetic and disgusting :rolleyes

definitely

[Spurs Homer]

Ahh there it is; debunked! Propaganda! Conspiracy theory! :lol :lol

its called "facts"

There was a corrupt prosecutor.

He was NOT investigating ukrainian corruption -
Biden and the USA - and other int'l outfits - WANTED A REAL PROSECUTOR

WHO ACTUALLY INVESTIGATED CORRUPTION - SO THEY GOT RID OF THE RUSSIAN/UKRAINIAN CORRUPT PROSECUTOR -

as per USA policy.

But you rt wing nutjob russian propagandists - BELIEVE the russian liars like trump who flip those ^ facts

to make it appear that Biden was trying to PREVENT investigations -
when he was actually ENCOURAGING - REAL - INVESTIGATIONS.


BUT


these FACTS - are getting in the way of your russia/trump conspiracies!

Idiots.

[boutons_deux]

Biden backtracks.

I bet if he showed up in the Senate, he'd give the Repgus screamin hell for slandering him and his son to deflect from Trash's crimes.

[ElNono]

To prove grounds that Trump rightfully pursued a joint investigation in to Ukrainian corruption by Biden. Wtf else would Biden be subpoenaed?

Except that starting an investigation is not why he’s being impeached for. And he wouldn’t be a complete dumbass, he would leave investigating to actual investigators, instead of trying to force a foreign power to ‘look into’ his political opponent.

[ElNono]

well, he got roped into all this with his nefarious QPQ... :lmao

I would just say: careful what you wish for. Biden out of the picture is actually bad news for Trump.

[DMC]

There are several here who seem to be eat up with political stupid.

[koriwhat]

I would just say: careful what you wish for. Biden out of the picture is actually bad news for Trump.

i actually wish for the death of the dem party! :tu

[ElNono]

i actually wish for the death of the dem party! :tu

Good luck with that. I see a lot of frustration in your future.

[koriwhat]

Good luck with that. I see a lot of frustration in your future.

not just my future but the future of the USA too if they ever gain real power again.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s lawyers decided president could unilaterally take over Congress

his lawyers claimed he had the power to take over the role allocated to Congress.

“The president, the lawyers believed, could ignore the requirements of the Impoundment Control Act and

continue to hold the aid by asserting constitutional commander in chief powers that give him authority over diplomacy,” reported The Times.

“He could do so, they believed, if he determined that, based on existing circumstances, releasing the money would undermine military or diplomatic efforts.”

Others in the administration knew better and tried to warn Trump against it, namely conservative John Bolton.

Office of Management and Budget aide Robert Blair told chief of staff Mick Mulvaney that Trump could try to hold back the aide, but warned it wouldn’t go well.

“Expect Congress to become unhinged”

if the White House tried to counter the spending passed by Congress.

He further warned Mulvaney that

the act could further accusations that Trump is operating on behalf of Russia.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trumps-lawyers-decided-president-could-unilaterally-take-over-congress/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trumps-lawyers-decided-president-could-unilaterally-take-over-congress/)

[koriwhat]

Trump’s lawyers decided president could unilaterally take over Congress

his lawyers claimed he had the power to take over the role allocated to Congress.

“The president, the lawyers believed, could ignore the requirements of the Impoundment Control Act and

continue to hold the aid by asserting constitutional commander in chief powers that give him authority over diplomacy,” reported The Times.

“He could do so, they believed, if he determined that, based on existing circumstances, releasing the money would undermine military or diplomatic efforts.”

Others in the administration knew better and tried to warn Trump against it, namely conservative John Bolton.

Office of Management and Budget aide Robert Blair told chief of staff Mick Mulvaney that Trump could try to hold back the aide, but warned it wouldn’t go well.

“Expect Congress to become unhinged”

if the White House tried to counter the spending passed by Congress.

He further warned Mulvaney that

the act could further accusations that Trump is operating on behalf of Russia.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trumps-lawyers-decided-president-could-unilaterally-take-over-congress/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trumps-lawyers-decided-president-could-unilaterally-take-over-congress/)

fuck that far-left shit outlet rawstory & fuck your stupid russian conspiracy bullshit already!

[ElNono]

not just my future but the future of the USA too if they ever gain real power again.

You give politics the importance it doesn’t have. Heck, half the people don’t even vote.

[boutons_deux]

Excuse me, what did Lindsey Graham just say? He seems shook here (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/15/1892675/-Excuse-me-what-did-Lindsey-Graham-just-say-He-seems-shook-here)

In the same hour Rudy Giuliani told the press he would not comply with congressional subpoenas related to the impeachment inquiry and his shady work in Ukraine,

Sen. Lindsey Graham ran into a gaggle of reporters in a Senate hallway and

one reporter said,

“20 years ago, you said not complying with a subpoena was an impeachable offense.”

Before the reporter could even ask what had changed, Graham stammered and interrupted,

“Nothing’s changed.” :lol

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/15/1892675/-Excuse-me-what-did-Lindsey-Graham-just-say-He-seems-shook-here?detail=emaildkboy (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/15/1892675/-Excuse-me-what-did-Lindsey-Graham-just-say-He-seems-shook-here?detail=emaildkboy)

[boutons_deux]

You give politics the importance it doesn’t have. Heck, half the people don’t even vote.

Politics may not be important to "half the people", but that's their fault and their problem. Politicians and the asshole judges they install run the country.

[ChumpDumper]

To prove grounds that Trump rightfully pursued a joint investigation in to Ukrainian corruption by Biden. Wtf else would Biden be subpoenaed?
Oh, then why doesn't your Trump take the stand himself?

Sounds like he could clear everything up in six or seven hours of sworn testimony at his trial.

[ElNono]

Politics may not be important to "half the people", but that's their fault and their problem. Politicians and the asshole judges they install run the country.

When you consistently bitch about the POTUS for hours on end, it seems to me it becomes your problem too, tbh

[Spurs Homer]

Oh, then why doesn't your Trump take the stand himself?

Sounds like he could clear everything up in six or seven hours of sworn testimony at his trial.

lol

also

if he was doing a legit presidential action- why did he panic and release the aid after getting caught?

seems like he could have held his ground and just say “im looking out for the USA - bring on the investigation and i will prove my actions were perfect!”

while continuing to withhold the aid.

[boutons_deux]

When you consistently bitch about the POTUS for hours on end, it seems to me it becomes your problem too, tbh

bull fucking shit

The conservative SCOTUS whores?

C-U corrupting politics without limits

ruled corporations are "people"

gutted VRA, permitting red states' voter suppression

approved partisan gerrymandering.

crippled ACA by making Medicaid expansion optional (10Ks suffered and died without Medicaid)

ruled tax money could be used by churches (and Gorsuch says separation of Church and State is bullshit)

agreed to weaponize 1st and 2nd Amenments

etc, etc.

With a solid, unsquishy 5 conservative WHORES after decades VRWC strategy of trying for 5,

expect much more crap from those 5,

eg, abortion legality up to the states, which be both racist and misogynist since mostly poor (black, brown) women will be affected, the ones who can't afford to travel for legal abortion, or resort to backstreet/DIY abortion.

Even more destruction of separation of (Christian) Church and State.

etc, etc.

America is fucked and unfuckable, by explicit intention, not by accident or by "natural" processes

[DMC]

Oh, then why doesn't your Trump take the stand himself?

Sounds like he could clear everything up in six or seven hours of sworn testimony at his trial.

:lol Chumpy's endless parade of questions. If you don't answer you fold!

[DMC]

lol

also

if he was doing a legit presidential action- why did he panic and release the aid after getting caught?

seems like he could have held his ground and just say “im looking out for the USA - bring on the investigation and i will prove my actions were perfect!”

while continuing to withhold the aid.

Not your president, why do you care? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Chumpy's endless parade of questions. If you don't answer you fold!:lol DMC's endless ankle biting and fear of having an actual take on a discussion board. If you poke at his insecurities he will spend the rest of his life collecting your personal information in an attempt to get back at you.

[ElNono]

bull fucking shit

The conservative SCOTUS whores?

C-U corrupting politics without limits

ruled corporations are "people"

gutted VRA, permitting red states' voter suppression

approved partisan gerrymandering.

crippled ACA by making Medicaid expansion optional (10Ks suffered and died without Medicaid)

ruled tax money could be used by churches (and Gorsuch says separation of Church and State is bullshit)

agreed to weaponize 1st and 2nd Amenments

etc, etc.

With a solid, unsquishy 5 conservative WHORES after decades VRWC strategy of trying for 5,

expect much more crap from those 5,

eg, abortion legality up to the states, which be both racist and misogynist since mostly poor (black, brown) women will be affected, the ones who can't afford to travel for legal abortion, or resort to backstreet/DIY abortion.

Even more destruction of separation of (Christian) Church and State.

etc, etc.

America is fucked and unfuckable, by explicit intention, not by accident or by "natural" processes



See? You do care. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Shocking new Ukraine revelations could make McConnell’s impeachment scheme even riskier for GOP

new evidence uncovered by the New York Times could complicate his efforts — or potentially doom the GOP if he pulls off the sham trial,

layers of new detail on the turmoil inside the administration

stirred up months ago by Trump’s demand to withhold military aid from Ukraine in exchange for the announcement of investigations into Joe Biden and his son.

Top White House and Cabinet officials were implicated in the report (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trumps-ukraine-aid-freeze-ignited-84-days-of-conflict-and-turmoil-in-the-white-house/), which showed that

some officials worked to advance Trump’s demands as

others begged him not to go through with the scheme that eventually led to his impeachment.

many of these officials who were directly involved with Trump’s freezing of aid

are the same ones Trump blocked from appearing before the House impeachment inquiry,”

it’s highly likely that additional evidence will come out after the GOP-led Senate acquits the president.

The administration is currently fighting to block the release of documents from the Pentagon and the Office of Management and Budget related to the Ukraine scheme, and a ruling could come as soon as March.

“That could come after Senate Republicans ran a sham trial and acquitted Trump,” Sargent wrote.

“Do they really want to be on the hook for having suppressed such evidence,

even in the face of a whole new round of deeply incriminating revelations?”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/shocking-new-ukraine-revelations-could-make-mcconnells-impeachment-scheme-even-riskier-for-gop/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3341

“Do they really want to be on the hook" ??

fuck no, they SIMPLY DON'T CARE,

as their Senate majority won't be affected.

Just like with Russian collusion, Trash is blocking the investigations which would have CONVICTED him if not blocked.

[Spurs Homer]

Not your president, why do you care? :lol

was responding to propaganda by pego

you are right- not my president

but it is my country and i care very much that a fraud criminal is impersonating a us president and working for russia


why DONT you care?

[ducks]

President Donald Trump's approval rating is at 50%, according to a new poll revealing he is winning back support with swing voters and coming out slightly ahead of the frontrunners for the Democratic presidential nomination.

[boutons_deux]

Bolton Has No Excuse,

‘Must Testify’ Now That Judge Has Dismissed Kupperman’s Lawsuit:

Legal Experts


https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/bolton-has-no-excuse-must-testify-now-that-judge-has-dismissed-kuppermans-lawsuit-legal-experts/ (https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/bolton-has-no-excuse-must-testify-now-that-judge-has-dismissed-kuppermans-lawsuit-legal-experts/)

[weebo]

President Donald Trump's approval rating is at 50%, according to a new poll revealing he is winning back support with swing voters and coming out slightly ahead of the frontrunners for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Hey quack-quack, how many portraits of dear leader do you have hanging on your walls?

[ducks]

[QUOTE=boutons_deux;10021959]Bolton Has No Excuse,

‘Must Testify’ Now That Judge Has Dismissed Kupperman’s Lawsuit:

Legal Experts


https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/bolton-has-no-excuse-must-testify-now-that-judge-has-dismissed-kuppermans-lawsuit-legal-experts/ (https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/bolton-has-no-excuse-must-testify-now-that-judge-has-dismissed-kuppermans-lawsuit-legal-experts/)[/Are these the experts that said the world would crash if trump got to be president ?

[ducks]

Hey quack-quack, how many portraits of dear leader do you have hanging on your walls?

I have USA flags and vet people hanging on my walls that are true vet heroes

[weebo]

I have USA flags and vet people hanging on my walls that are true vet heroes

draft dodger---that's who you hitch your wagon too? isn't there a better gop leader or is orange pigman 45* the best grand ole putins got?

[DMC]

was responding to propaganda by pego

you are right- not my president

but it is my country and i care very much that a fraud criminal is impersonating a us president and working for russia


why DONT you care?

Because watching faggots like you meltdown over shit that doesn't affect you at all is entertaining.

Please continue the downward spiral into a pool of hair, foam and piss.

[DMC]

draft dodger---that's who you hitch your wagon too? isn't there a better gop leader or is orange pigman 45* the best grand ole putins got?

You had your shot in '16. You missed. Sit in the stands and boo. It's all ya gots! :lol

[weebo]

You had your shot in '16. You missed. Sit in the stands and boo. It's all ya gots! :lol

If you're referring to killary, I could care less--didn't vote for her or P45*.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1212152189398990848?s=19

:lol

[thispego]

Oh, then why doesn't your Trump take the stand himself?

Sounds like he could clear everything up in six or seven hours of sworn testimony at his trial.

Why? To deprive us of watching the dems run around like chickens with their heads cut off? :lol
This clown show y’all are running is playing right in to the GOP’s hands. No way Trump wants it to end, it’s just too good.

[boutons_deux]

Here’s how Nancy Pelosi can psychologically wreck Trump by stalling impeachment for 36 days

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-11.15.51-PM.png

Frum laid out a theory that he cited to Paul Rosenzweig of the R Street Institute, about how crucial the next 36 days will be.

1211665664383111168

... several more tweets follow

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/heres-how-nancy-pelosi-can-psychologically-wreck-trump-by-stalling-impeachment-for-36-days/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3348

[RandomGuy]

Here’s how Nancy Pelosi can psychologically wreck Trump by stalling impeachment for 36 days

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-11.15.51-PM.png

Frum laid out a theory that he cited to Paul Rosenzweig of the R Street Institute, about how crucial the next 36 days will be.

1211665664383111168

... several more tweets follow

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/heres-how-nancy-pelosi-can-psychologically-wreck-trump-by-stalling-impeachment-for-36-days/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3348


Imagine what it would be like if he got to give the SOTU having been cleared by the Senate -- it would be a full-blown triumphal rant. But if the impeachment is still pending, it might, instead, be an unhinged narcissistic screed of almost unimaginable insanity. Just think of how painful it would be for 53 Republican Senators to sit in the halls of Congress, watching a live meltdown on national TV. That, alone, would be worth the price of admission. Maybe I'm wrong and this hasn't crossed her mind -- but I love the idea. /fin

I think so.

He will have no one really holding him back. The SOTU will be unhinged, and fodder for Democratic campaign ads.

Interesting to see when the articles are handed over.

One thing is certain, if Republicans want it done quickly... it should probably be slow-walked.

[spurraider21]

I agree with ElNono. Bad move on pelosis part

[ChumpDumper]

Why? To deprive us of watching the dems run around like chickens with their heads cut off? :lol
This clown show y’all are running is playing right in to the GOP’s hands. No way Trump wants it to end, it’s just too good.
Yes, he wanted to be impeached!

5372536-D chess, baby!

[DMC]

If you're referring to killary, I could care less--didn't vote for her or P45*.

You had your shot regardless, if you're eligible to vote.

[DMC]

I think so.

He will have no one really holding him back. The SOTU will be unhinged, and fodder for Democratic campaign ads.

Interesting to see when the articles are handed over.

One thing is certain, if Republicans want it done quickly... it should probably be slow-walked.

This in a nutshell is the reason for the impeachment - to fuck with the GOP. If Trump was a national security threat, why would the left not do everything they could to remove him from office? This is all about the 2020 elections, that's it and that's all.

[baseline bum]

If Trump was a national security threat, why would the left not do everything they could to remove him from office?

Because there is nothing Trump could do to lose his base, and thus nothing he could do to lose the support of the senate.

[ElNono]

This in a nutshell is the reason for the impeachment - to fuck with the GOP. If Trump was a national security threat, why would the left not do everything they could to remove him from office?

They are doing all they can. It’s called impeachment. That is all you can do in a Democracy.

[Spurs Homer]

This in a nutshell is the reason for the impeachment - to fuck with the GOP. If Trump was a national security threat, why would the left not do everything they could to remove him from office? This is all about the 2020 elections, that's it and that's all.

Weak right wing talking point.

The reason to impeach him is all in the evidence. If the Dems were just trying to impeach with illegitimate reasons - the porn star payoffs, the russia collusion, the babies in cages, etc would have also been enough.

Fortunately, the weak dems finally saw the obvious:

Trump cheated the 2016 elections and is well on his way to cheat the 2020 elections so what choice do they really have?

Just sit tight until he cheats his way into the office for 4 more years?

Learn the facts before spewing stupidity for a change.

[boutons_deux]

Pelosi has McConnell over a a barrel as she delays impeachment trial:

‘This is working beautifully for her’

longtime political analyst Eleanor Clift stated that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) has the upper hand as she deals with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) (https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-long-can-nancy-pelosi-can-hold-back-these-articles-of-impeachment-longer-than-you-think?ref=home) on the terms of how the trial of Donald Trump will be conducted.

“After what Republicans like to characterize as a rush to impeachment,

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is now getting grief from the GOP for slowing down the process.

It’s driving President Trump and his allies a bit batty

trying to figure out what she’s up to by holding back the articles of impeachment.”

Norm Ornstein, a political scientist and resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, agrees

“This is working beautifully for her,

and for the country.

In the weeks since the House voted for Impeachment,

there have been more damning emails, and

there’s no reason to believe we have seen the end of it.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/pelosi-has-mcconnell-over-a-a-barrel-as-she-delays-impeachment-trial-this-is-working-beautifully-for-her (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/pelosi-has-mcconnell-over-a-a-barrel-as-she-delays-impeachment-trial-this-is-working-beautifully-for-her/)

[boutons_deux]

Impeachment isn’t hurting Democrats — according to latest data

support for Democrats has reached an all-time high at 50 percent and

+10 percent over the Republican Party.

By the middle of October, just four weeks after the whistleblower came forward and testimony leaked, support hit 50.3 percent.

Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) :lol

claimed (https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-impeachment-helps-trump-win-2020-reelection-lose-house-democrat-seats-1479548) that impeaching the president would be a huge loss for Democrats at the ballot box in 2020. :lol

it’s clear Americans are still supporting Democrats despite the impeachment vote.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/impeachment-isnt-hurting-democrats-according-to-latest-data/

[boutons_deux]

Neomi Rao’s Efforts to Place Trump Above the Law Must Fail


https://compote.slate.com/images/0b661264-c52b-4ee4-accc-8c7910b263bf.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=1560x1040&offset=0x0

the three-judge panels in each case have included Judge Neomi Rao, who was nominated to the court by Trump.

And in each case, Judge Rao has put forward

novel theories that, taken together, would all but preclude Congress from enforcing legitimate subpoenas against the president in court and place him largely above the law.

Fortunately, Rao’s colleagues have thus far been rejecting her ideas. The Supreme Court should as well.

Judge Rao, however, dissented. According to Rao, where a congressional inquiry concerns the president, that inquiry “may be pursued only through impeachment,” even where Congress has an otherwise valid legislative purpose for its investigation.

The problem with this argument is that it has no basis (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/trump-subpoena-mazars-neomi-rao.html) in Supreme Court case law or historical precedent.

Rao’s argument, though, is as surprising as it is wrong, and if combined with her argument in Mazars, it would help place Trump above any congressional oversight and further insulate the executive branch from an important check by the judicial branch.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/neomi-rao-mueller-grand-jury-materials-trump-impeachment.html

This is the kind of garbage that the USA will be deluged with for the next 40 years by Leonard Leo's incompetent, young, political hacks in Federal robes.

[boutons_deux]

https://2vwlfu3ynqxb3npfhm3m8lde-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/rudy-giuliani-liar.jpg

Rudy Giuliani Begs To Be Trump’s Impeachment Trial Lawyer

“I would testify,

I would do demonstrations,

I’d give lectures,

I’d give summations, or

I’d do what I do best,

I’d try the case.

I’d love to try the case,”

if you give me the case, I will prosecute it as a racketeering case,

which I kind of invented anyway,” :lol

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/01/rudy-giuliani-begs-to-be-trumps-impeachment-trial-lawyer.html

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1212876841733644288?s=19

tee hee

[weebo]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1212876841733644288?s=19

tee hee

who gives a shit... he's still going into the history books with an * :lol

[Chris]

who gives a shit... he's still going into the history books with an * :lol

You should read the Scarlett Letter; it's a classic

[weebo]

You should read the Scarlett Letter; it's a classic

* :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/1212942765312675841

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/calebmaupin/status/1213140615313182721

[boutons_deux]

Judge:

Indicted Giuliani associate

may give records to House

A federal judge on Friday allowed a Rudy Giuliani associate indicted on campaign finance charges to turn over documents to Congress as part of the impeachment proceeding against President Donald Trump.

U.S. District Court Judge Paul Oetken

granted Lev Parnas’ request to turn over to the House intelligence committee documents and data

seized by federal investigators when Parnas was arrested in October. (https://apnews.com/c9125e9ccd894965bbf2860100366779)

Parnas’ attorney said in a court filing he expected

to receive the materials from the U.S. Justice Department this week. :lol HEAVILY redacted, some even destroyed, by Barr! :lol

https://apnews.com/f72d80dda4493e84899b9674cd9f8d42 (https://apnews.com/f72d80dda4493e84899b9674cd9f8d42)

[DMC]

They are doing all they can. It’s called impeachment. That is all you can do in a Democracy.

They have not yet done so.

[ChumpDumper]

They have not yet done so.Changes nothing.

[ElNono]

They have not yet done so.

Just a matter of time now.

[ducks]

“That's the good thing about being president, I can do whatever I want.”

President Obama Feb 11, 2014

[ChumpDumper]

“That's the good thing about being president, I can do whatever I want.”

President Obama Feb 11, 2014Uh, he broke a schedule that day. Not any laws.


:lol ducks

[DMC]

Just a matter of time now.

But they haven't as of this moment. So there is more that they can do to remove him from office. They just decided to not do it. Odd for someone who's a national security threat.

[Th'Pusher]

But they haven't as of this moment. So there is more that they can do to remove him from office. They just decided to not do it. Odd for someone who's a national security threat.

Not if your goal is to have the national security threat removed from office and the leader of the senate has already tipped his hand indicating he has no intention of removal. Mitch forced Nancy’s hand.

[ChumpDumper]

But they haven't as of this moment. So there is more that they can do to remove him from office. They just decided to not do it. Odd for someone who's a national security threat.Actually, more evidence is being collected as you fap to Trump.

[Th'Pusher]

And to be clear, when I say removed from office, I’m referring to the 2020 election as Mitch has made it clear a fair trial will not be delivered by the senate.

[Th'Pusher]

Actually, more evidence is being collected as you fap to Trump.

This is also true.

[ElNono]

But they haven't as of this moment. So there is more that they can do to remove him from office. They just decided to not do it. Odd for someone who's a national security threat.

The impeachment process technically did start, just hasn’t concluded yet.

[hater]

The impeachment process technically did start, just hasn’t concluded yet.

impeachment is done. just needs to move on to senate to become legal and trial can start

its like if you tot a DUI and you waiting for trial tbqh

[ElNono]

Writing articles of impeachment are part of the impeachment process. That happened already, this why it’s ongoing.

[Chris]

Not if your goal is to have the national security threat removed from office and the leader of the senate has already tipped his hand indicating he has no intention of removal. Mitch forced Nancy’s hand.

lol

[Winehole23]

Propaganda and content free scoffing are Chris's specialties.

Enjoy!

[Spurs Homer]

Trump criminal administration

refusing/defying a legal court order to release emails

no surpise here- been saying this:

a criminal does what criminals do- commit crimes and then try to cover up crimes


the criminal has told the world a million times in a million ways that he is a criminal and will always act as any criminal would act -

but somehow the sleeping lazy usa public, the media are all yawning thru life and when another crime is committed-
they suddenly act surprised and commence to a shocked narrative


”how could he?”

[thispego]

evidence

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol:lol afraid to testify

[DMC]

impeachment is done. just needs to move on to senate to become legal and trial can start

its like if you tot a DUI and you waiting for trial tbqh

It's not done until it goes to the Senate. Technicality but congress is well aware of it.

[DMC]

Trump criminal administration

refusing/defying a legal court order to release emails

no surpise here- been saying this:

a criminal does what criminals do- commit crimes and then try to cover up crimes


the criminal has told the world a million times in a million ways that he is a criminal and will always act as any criminal would act -

but somehow the sleeping lazy usa public, the media are all yawning thru life and when another crime is committed-
they suddenly act surprised and commence to a shocked narrative


”how could he?”

You are formally invited to join Boutons' Croutons. An elite crew dedicated to extreme positions and regurgitating word salads from like minded articles from obscure rag sites. Boutons Deux is the founder, RandomGuy is the chairman and you can be the SECDEF.

[boutons_deux]

the technicality, aka bullshit lawyering, of the Senate not receiving the A of I so no impeachment is Repug propaganda,

Trying to minimize and shield what a criminal, lying, fraudulent piece of shit asshole the Repugs have fully aligned themselves with.

[DMC]

the technicality, aka bullshit lawyering, of the Senate not receiving the A of I so no impeachment is Repug propaganda,

Trying to minimize and shield what a criminal, lying, fraudulent piece of shit asshole the Repugs have fully aligned themselves with.

Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-12-19/trump-impeachment-delay-could-be-serious-problem-for-democrats

But an indefinite delay would pose a serious problem. Impeachment as contemplated by the Constitution does not consist merely of the vote by the House, but of the process of sending the articles to the Senate for trial. Both parts are necessary to make an impeachment under the Constitution: The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. And the Senate must actually hold a trial.

:lol Boutons
:lol "lawyering"

[boutons_deux]

Trump Is Withholding Dozens Of Emails That Prove His Impeachment Guilt

Donald Trump is refusing to turn over 20 emails between two of his top aides that discuss the freezing of aid to Ukraine.

The New York Times sought the emails in an FOIA request, and reported: (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/us/politics/trump-ukraine-military-aid.html)

In response to a court order that it swiftly process those pages in response to a Freedom of Information Act, or FOIA, lawsuit filed by The New York Times,

the Office of Management and Budget delivered a terse letter saying it

would not turn over any of the 40 pages of emails — not even with redactions.

“All 20 documents are being withheld in full,”

The reason why Trump is refusing to turn over the emails was reported to be that

the communications reference a direct order from Trump to withhold the aid.

Just Security reported on

emails between the Pentagon and White House that blew up

Mitch McConnell’s nothing to see here sham impeachment trial plan. (https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/02/mitch-mcconnell-impeachment-trial-scam-devastated-by-ukraine-emails.html)

Trump is refusing to turn over the emails

for a simple reason.

He is guilty.

Mitch McConnell is trying to bury the impeachment trial for the same reason.

Trump is guilty.

An innocent president would welcome an impeachment trial,

not try to rig it.

The evidence to convict and remove Trump is

one court decision away from being in the hands of The New York Times and the American people.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/04/trump-is-withholding-dozens-of-emails-that-prove-his-impeachment-guilt.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[DMC]

:lol

Didn't
Read

[boutons_deux]

NYT Plans To Challenge WH For Withholding 20 Emails On Ukraine Aid Freeze


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/new-york-times-white-house-withhold-ukraine-aid-freeze-emails?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[Spurs Homer]

The con man criminal again gets a win

by distracting the country with another crime

pompeo did all the morning shows and not one question about his participation in a criminal cover up at the state dept
not one question about ukraine

trump is never ever asked- “why are you part of a cover up and why are you hiding documents and threatening wtnesses
if you are innocent?”

the media is failing again

not one republican senator is asked, “will you ask moscow mitch or leningrad lindsey to recuse due to them taking orders from the defendant criminal in the white house to rig the trial?”

”if you acquit this lunatic, you will have blood on your hands for being complicit in a cover up- and the lunatic will continue to escalate until we are in a hot war and many americans will die. You can do your duty and look at the evidence and convict this lunatic and remove him before hundreds of thousands of us deaths”

[boutons_deux]

The Old Lesbian from racist SC

Senate Republican eyes rule change to kick start Trump impeachment trial

Lindsey Graham said he wants to change the Senate rules to kick start a trial if Pelosi does not send the articles of impeachment.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Republican, said on Friday the Senate cannot proceed with a trial under its rules until it receives them.


McConnell has argued that any decision on potential witnesses should come after senators have heard opening arguments and have had a chance to ask questions.

“My goal is to start this trial in the next coming days,” Graham said.

“If we don’t get the articles this week, then

we need to take matters in our own hands and change the rules.”

“This thing needs to be over with in January,”

Pelosi ... accused McConnell of being complicit in Trump’s “cover-up of his abuses of power.”

U.S. Representative Adam Schiff, :

“Both Democrats and Republicans are now having to go on the record and say,

do we want witnesses?

Do we want to see the documents?

Do we want the American people to hear the evidence?

Do we want a real trial?

Or do we want a cover-up?

It’s clear, I think, from the president and Mitch McConnell they don’t want a trial anymore.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/senate-republican-eyes-rule-change-to-kick-start-trump-impeachment-trial-idUSKBN1Z40LO?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/senate-republican-eyes-rule-change-to-kick-start-trump-impeachment-trial-idUSKBN1Z40LO?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29)

The traitorous, anti-American Repugs have "broken" Congress, and

have every intention of "legalizing" Trash's crimes,

so the next Repug autocrat will have a new "normal" of acceptable criminality to exceed.

Repugs know they are impervious to voting, because of their ignorant, stupid, low-wage, low-ed cult base, then with the oligarchy financing the Repugs and financing destruction of Repug opposition.

[Spurs Homer]

The Old Lesbian from racist SC

Senate Republican eyes rule change to kick start Trump impeachment trial

Lindsey Graham said he wants to change the Senate rules to kick start a trial if Pelosi does not send the articles of impeachment.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Republican, said on Friday the Senate cannot proceed with a trial under its rules until it receives them.


McConnell has argued that any decision on potential witnesses should come after senators have heard opening arguments and have had a chance to ask questions.

“My goal is to start this trial in the next coming days,” Graham said.

“If we don’t get the articles this week, then

we need to take matters in our own hands and change the rules.”

“This thing needs to be over with in January,”

Pelosi ... accused McConnell of being complicit in Trump’s “cover-up of his abuses of power.”

U.S. Representative Adam Schiff, :

“Both Democrats and Republicans are now having to go on the record and say,

do we want witnesses?

Do we want to see the documents?

Do we want the American people to hear the evidence?

Do we want a real trial?

Or do we want a cover-up?

It’s clear, I think, from the president and Mitch McConnell they don’t want a trial anymore.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/senate-republican-eyes-rule-change-to-kick-start-trump-impeachment-trial-idUSKBN1Z40LO?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/senate-republican-eyes-rule-change-to-kick-start-trump-impeachment-trial-idUSKBN1Z40LO?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29)

The traitorous, anti-American Repugs have "broken" Congress, and

have every intention of "legalizing" Trash's crimes,

so the next Repug autocrat will have a new "normal" of acceptable criminality to exceed.

Repugs know they are impervious to voting, because of their ignorant, stupid, low-wage, low-ed cult base, then with the oligarchy financing the Repugs and financing destruction of Repug opposition.




You know what this means...

trump is in a panic - calling leningrad lindsey and moscow mitch and going nutz until they end this sham senate trial - BEFORE - the SOTU ADDRESS.

Pelosi knew this would fuck with trump - he cannot go to that SOTU if he is not acquitted in the republican cover up sham farce.

[boutons_deux]

‘Testify coward’:

Trump buried in ridicule for latest complaint about delayed impeachment trial

President Donald Trump complained that he was too busy to be impeached — and other social media users let him have it.

<Trash saying > : Democrats had delayed sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate because

they were “so weak and so pathetic.”

... < lots of tweets CRUSHING Trash's hypothetical balls and brain >

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/testify-coward-trump-buried-in-ridicule-for-latest-complaint-about-delayed-impeachment-trial/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[RandomGuy]

You know what this means...

trump is in a panic - calling leningrad lindsey and moscow mitch and going nutz until they end this sham senate trial - BEFORE - the SOTU ADDRESS.

Pelosi knew this would fuck with trump - he cannot go to that SOTU if he is not acquitted in the republican cover up sham farce.

It will be interesting theater.

All of the grown ups have left the white house, leaving sniveling yes men who will not hold him back from being himself more clearly in his last SOTU. He will be more measured than in one of his rallies, but still be off the rails.

[Spurs Homer]

It will be interesting theater.

All of the grown ups have left the white house, leaving sniveling yes men who will not hold him back from being himself more clearly in his last SOTU. He will be more measured than in one of his rallies, but still be off the rails.


scenario 1) pelosi holds off and leaves trumps fate in limbo = trump will have another unhinged nazi-type rally with his rt wing fellators applauding at his stupidity every 45 seconds while pelosi smirks over his left shoulder and the american people watch


scenario 2) moscow mitch holds a sham trial with zero documents, zero witnesses and either acquits trump or - more likely- just dismisses the case with zero senators having to vote for conviction/acquittal - and trump lies for two hours and still melts down in an unhinged rant while lying to the american people about his “innocense”

[boutons_deux]

scenario 1) pelosi holds off and leaves trumps fate in limbo = trump will have another unhinged nazi-type rally with his rt wing fellators applauding at his stupidity every 45 seconds while pelosi smirks over his left shoulder and the american people watch


scenario 2) moscow mitch holds a sham trial with zero documents, zero witnesses and either acquits trump or - more likely- just dismisses the case with zero senators having to vote for conviction/acquittal - and trump lies for two hours and still melts down in an unhinged rant while lying to the american people about his “innocense”

Graham says Repugs should change the rules, Moscow Mitch involved, so they can "try" Trash w/o receiving the A of I.

[RandomGuy]

Graham says Repugs should change the rules, Moscow Mitch involved, so they can "try" Trash w/o receiving the A of I.

I wouldn't put it past them.

They would look awfully foolish if they declare him innocent before given the charges.

[boutons_deux]

I wouldn't put it past them.

They would look awfully foolish if they declare him innocent before given the charges.

The Repugs, using Trash as their accidental, unwanted Thor's Hammer, have been and intend to keep on breaking everything, in their strategy of being the hit men for the oligarchy increasing and solidifying its domination of America, a veritable coup d'etat.

And the feckless Dems won't, can't stop them, and won't even try, given control of govt, to unbreak what the Repugs have broken, so the Repug break-everything shitstorm keeps America ratcheting downward.

[Spurs Homer]

The Repugs, using Trash as their accidental, unwanted Thor's Hammer, have been and intend to keep on breaking everything, in their strategy of being the hit men for the oligarchy increasing and solidifying its domination of America, a veritable coup d'etat.

And the feckless Dems won't, can't stop them, and won't even try, given control of govt, to unbreak what the Repugs have broken, so the Repug break-everything shitstorm keeps America ratcheting downward.


they have to get 51 votes to change senate rules

that would be a pelosi win because even if they get 51 votes- it will expose again the corrupt action and will be a weapon dems can use in november

it is up to just how corrupt those 4-5 vulnerable repukes are willing to be and how badly they want to keep their vulnerable seat

not a slam dunk either way

i knew as soon as pelosi did this and then moscow mitch proclaimed how he didn’t really care and could wait

i knew that mitch was bluffing and did not have the balls to keep trump calm

trump already scared the shit out of mitch and leningrad lindsey and they are both dancing to dear leaders tune

[boutons_deux]

Fox News legal analyst says Dems should reopen impeachment inquiry — and possibly add new charges against Trump

Napolitano pointed to newly released emails showing that Trump was directly ordering the hold on military aid to Ukraine as

fresh evidence that he was trying to extort the country until it agreed to launch an investigation into prospective 2020 rival Joe Biden.

“If I were a Democrat in the House,

I would be moving to reopen the impeachment on the basis of the newly acquired evidence,

these new emails of people getting instructions directly from the president

to hold up on the sending of the funds,” Napolitano said.

“That would justify holding onto the articles of impeachment,

because there’s new evidence and perhaps new articles.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/fox-news-legal-analyst-says-dems-should-reopen-impeachment-inquiry-and-possibly-add-new-charges-against-trump/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/fox-news-legal-analyst-says-dems-should-reopen-impeachment-inquiry-and-possibly-add-new-charges-against-trump/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

[boutons_deux]

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Bolton gonna talk

[weebo]

Fox News legal analyst says Dems should reopen impeachment inquiry — and possibly add new charges against Trump

Napolitano pointed to newly released emails showing that Trump was directly ordering the hold on military aid to Ukraine as

fresh evidence that he was trying to extort the country until it agreed to launch an investigation into prospective 2020 rival Joe Biden.

“If I were a Democrat in the House,

I would be moving to reopen the impeachment on the basis of the newly acquired evidence,

these new emails of people getting instructions directly from the president

to hold up on the sending of the funds,” Napolitano said.

“That would justify holding onto the articles of impeachment,

because there’s new evidence and perhaps new articles.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/fox-news-legal-analyst-says-dems-should-reopen-impeachment-inquiry-and-possibly-add-new-charges-against-trump/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/fox-news-legal-analyst-says-dems-should-reopen-impeachment-inquiry-and-possibly-add-new-charges-against-trump/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

The house should subpoena bolton :lol

[ChumpDumper]

The house should subpoena bolton :lolNo shit. Bolton is bluffing. Call him on it.

[boutons_deux]

Bolton grabbing some publicity with his book due soon?

[ChumpDumper]

Bolton grabbing some publicity with his book due soon?Of course. He's not expecting to be called by the Senate. Might give Nancy justification for holding back the articles if they can subpoena him now.

[thispego]

You niggas still squirming in your panties over orange man? :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1214261842429661184?s=19

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1214261842429661184?s=19

Actually, a better counterpoint to Nancy's tweet is that yes, the Senate can absolutely be complicit.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1214261842429661184?s=19Bolton says he'll testify to Congress now.

[koriwhat]

Actually, a better counterpoint to Nancy's tweet is that yes, the Senate can absolutely be complicit.

or how about fuck that crypt keeper pelosi and the house; fuck their faux impeachment...

[ElNono]

or how about fuck that crypt keeper pelosi and the house; fuck their faux impeachment...

That’s implied in being complicit.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/NewsBreaking/status/1214288384614551553?s=19

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/NewsBreaking/status/1214288384614551553?s=19

they are in a panic of that feb 4th SOTU address

trump is calling them and reminding them “just remember how much money you accepted illegally”

lololol

[baseline bum]

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Bolton gonna talk

So what? Just because he didn't want to be a part of our Dear Leader's drug deal doesn't mean he'll go against him to give the Democrats a soundbite to run on. Especially not after our Dear Leader has us at the brink of a war with Iran that Bolton has always wanted. I wouldn't trust Bolton any more than I would Uday or Stephen Miller on the stand.

[Chris]

they are in a panic of that feb 4th SOTU address

trump is calling them and reminding them “just remember how much money you accepted illegally”

lololol

I doubt the Senate is panicking over the Dems shitting their pants. What a pathetic party you chose to support :rollin

[Spurs Homer]

I doubt the Senate is panicking over the Dems shitting their pants. What a pathetic party you chose to support :rollin

i support america, truth & the rule of law

right now- the lesser of two evils - is most important

so- the criminal party who is bought and paid for by russia

loses this vote

[DMC]

i support america, truth & the rule of law

right now- the lesser of two evils - is most important

so- the criminal party who is bought and paid for by russia

loses this vote

Your party - doesn't know - whether to shit - or go blind