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Spurs Homer
01-16-2020, 10:27 AM
:lol Parnas good now
This evidence comes from a lying fraudster. When did he write the note? Be specific. Coming from a subpoena doesn't make the note true. Parnas is clearly trying to get a reduced sentence.
yup- called it -
:lol:lol:lol:lol
comrade TSA - on cue
Spurs Homer
01-16-2020, 10:28 AM
Parnas singing like a canary...
pos barr
pos trump
pos nunes
cue comrade TSA hustling in here with
parnas liar convict
lololol
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 10:35 AM
:lol Parnas good now
This evidence comes from a lying fraudster. When did he write the note? Be specific. Coming from a subpoena doesn't make the note true. Parnas is clearly trying to get a reduced sentence.It did have the flavor of an on-air proffer, and there's little doubt Parnas spun it in the light most favorable to him, but, Parnas and his lawyer are at hazard if they lie on TV, period. His lawyer vould lose his licence and Parnas would risk more criminal charges.
But yeah, obviously Trump is insulated from any responsibility by using his personal lawyer to hire the guy to carry out his criminal scheme.
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 10:43 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1217751533598756864?s=19Simple no to both.
Trump does not have the power to impound appropriations without notice and giving good cause to do so in writing, and even then he can't do whatever he wants. In this case the GAO found the law was broken and public information shows it was broken at the direction of POTUS. That's facially impeachable conduct.
The allegation that Joe Biden did anything wrong is pure speculation, but even if it were true, that would not give the President the right to hold up appropriations.
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 10:45 AM
Tony Soprano: ask my personal lawyer about Paulie Walnuts, I barely know the guy.
It did have the flavor of an on-air proffer, and there's little doubt Parnas spun it in the light most favorable to him, but, Parnas and his lawyer are at hazard if they lie on TV, period. His lawyer vould lose his licence and Parnas would risk more criminal charges.
But yeah, obviously Trump is insulated from any responsibility by using his personal lawyer to hire the guy to carry out his criminal scheme.
Michael Cohen tried the same thing for a reduced sentence.
https://twitter.com/VicToensing/status/1217800623527211009
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1217831149671723010
:lol
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 11:14 AM
:lol Parnas good now
This evidence comes from a lying fraudster. When did he write the note? Be specific. Coming from a subpoena doesn't make the note true. Parnas is clearly trying to get a reduced sentence.
WASHINGTON — New impeachment evidence released by House Democrats on Tuesday included texts sent between Connecticut congressional candidate Robert Hyde and Soviet-born businessman Lev Parnas in 2019.
It appears Hyde worked with Parnas to monitor the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch’s movements in Ukraine, as a campaign unfolded to remove her from her post. The texts suggest that Hyde worked with a Ukrainian team to track Yovanovitch, possibly with the goal of interfering with her work in some fashion.
“If you want her out, they need to make contact with security forces,” Hyde wrote to Parnas on March 26, 2019.
“They are willing to help if we/you would like a price,” Hyde wrote in one chilling message. “Guess you can do anything in the Ukraine with money... what I was told.”
Hyde and Parnas exchanged numerous messages about Yovanovitch’s precise whereabouts.
“She under heavy protection outside Kiev,” Hyde wrote to Parnas.
Two days later, he wrote to Parnas: “They are moving her tomorrow.”
Hyde followed up, “The guys over there asked me what I would like to do and what is in it for them.”
Then he provided more details about Yovanovitch’s movements, noting her computer was off and she was outside the embassy.
“They will let me know when she is on the move,” Hyde wrote.
Parnas responded, “Perfect.”
https://www.middletownpress.com/middletown/article/CT-Congressional-candidate-Hyde-worked-with-14975448.php
Why do you think they were tracking the movements and security details of the US ambassador?
https://www.middletownpress.com/middletown/article/CT-Congressional-candidate-Hyde-worked-with-14975448.php
Why do you think they were tracking the movements and security details of the US ambassador?
That Hyde guy is a nut who has stalked before, and it doesn't look like Parnas had anything to do with tracking her movements. Your own article doesn't even know why she was tracked if she ever even was.
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Judicial Watch has obtained information indicating Yovanovitch may have violated laws and government regulations by ordering subordinates to target certain U.S. persons using State Department resources. Yovanovitch reportedly ordered monitoring keyed to the following search terms: Biden, Giuliani, Soros and Yovanovitch. Judicial Watch has filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the State Department and will continue gathering facts from government sources.
Prior to being recalled as ambassador to Ukraine in the spring Yovanovitch reportedly created a list of individuals who were to be monitored via social media and other means. Ukraine embassy staff made the request to the Washington D.C. headquarters office of the department’s Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs. After several days, Yovanovitch’s staff was informed that the request was illegal and the monitoring either ceased or was concealed via the State Department Global Engagement Center, which has looser restrictions on collecting information.
“This is not an obscure rule, everyone in public diplomacy or public affairs knows they can’t make lists and monitor U.S. citizens unless there is a major national security reason,” according to a senior State Department official. If the illicit operation occurred, it seems to indicate a clear political bias against the president and his supporters. Yovanovitch, a career diplomat who has also led American embassies in Kyrgyzstan and Armenia, was appointed ambassador to Ukraine by Obama in 2016. She was recalled by the State Department in May and remains a State Department employee in Washington D.C.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/uncategorized/jw-investigates-if-ousted-ukraine-ambassador-ordered-state-dept-to-monitor-journalists-trump-allies/
Why was Yovanovitch asking the State Department to monitor certain US individuals?
Splits
01-16-2020, 11:54 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1217751533598756864?s=19
1217848013810536449
That aged well :lmao
Spurs Homer
01-16-2020, 12:00 PM
That Hyde guy is a nut who has stalked before, and it doesn't look like Parnas had anything to do with tracking her movements. Your own article doesn't even know why she was tracked if she ever even was.
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/uncategorized/jw-investigates-if-ousted-ukraine-ambassador-ordered-state-dept-to-monitor-journalists-trump-allies/
Why was Yovanovitch asking the State Department to monitor certain US individuals?
trump: “that woman is going to go thru some things”
yovanovitch- (under oath) “i was called at 1am from washington and told to get on the next plane - with no reason given- except that they were worried about my security”
and many other pieces of corroborating evidence already out
your god fancies himself a mob boss and you slurp his mushroom 24/7
:lol:lol
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 12:06 PM
That Hyde guy is a nut who has stalked before, and it doesn't look like Parnas had anything to do with tracking her movements. Your own article doesn't even know why she was tracked if she ever even was.
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/uncategorized/jw-investigates-if-ousted-ukraine-ambassador-ordered-state-dept-to-monitor-journalists-trump-allies/
Why was Yovanovitch asking the State Department to monitor certain US individuals?Looks like there was some nutbag stalking her. Security concerns.
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 12:07 PM
That Hyde guy is a nut who has stalked before, and it doesn't look like Parnas had anything to do with tracking her movements. Your own article doesn't even know why she was tracked if she ever even was.
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/uncategorized/jw-investigates-if-ousted-ukraine-ambassador-ordered-state-dept-to-monitor-journalists-trump-allies/
Why was Yovanovitch asking the State Department to monitor certain US individuals?Why was Yovanovitch recalled?
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 12:27 PM
https://twitter.com/VicToensing/status/1217800623527211009
An unsworn tweet from someone accused of wrongdoing.
Totally believable. To you. :lmao
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 12:29 PM
Why do you think they were tracking the movements and security details of the US ambassador?
That Hyde guy is a nut who has stalked before, and it doesn't look like Parnas had anything to do with tracking her movements. Your own article doesn't even know why she was tracked if she ever even was.
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/uncategorized/jw-investigates-if-ousted-ukraine-ambassador-ordered-state-dept-to-monitor-journalists-trump-allies/
Why was Yovanovitch asking the State Department to monitor certain US individuals?
The answer to "why do you think" does not begin "your own article".
Evasion noted, sophist.
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 12:31 PM
Michael Cohen tried the same thing for a reduced sentence.Trump will be criminally liable for the same scheme if he loses in November.
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 12:36 PM
Trump will be criminally liable for the same scheme if he loses in November.
... the same goes for his multiple counts of felony obstruction of justice from the Mueller report.
I think it is going to be very hard for the next president to pardon him ala Ford/Nixon.
Trump, will spend the remainder of his days in court as a defendant.
Lock him up.
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 12:55 PM
I think it is going to be very hard for the next president to pardon him ala Ford/Nixon.
I see no reason why the Nixon template wouldn't still work.
Trump resigns 10 minutes before the end of his Presidency, Pence pardons him 5 minutes after being sworn in as POTUS in the name of national healing.
DarrinS
01-16-2020, 01:00 PM
... the same goes for his multiple counts of felony obstruction of justice from the Mueller report.
I think it is going to be very hard for the next president to pardon him ala Ford/Nixon.
Trump, will spend the remainder of his days in court as a defendant.
Lock him up.
I see no reason why the Nixon template wouldn't still work.
Trump resigns 10 minutes before the end of his Presidency, Pence pardons him 5 minutes after being sworn in as POTUS in the name of national healing.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/38/70/60/3870608fe6d76c13cf0ed63caa1d4481.jpg
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 01:07 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/38/70/60/3870608fe6d76c13cf0ed63caa1d4481.jpg
Hey Darrin, do you approve of the job Trump is doing as president?
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 01:11 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/38/70/60/3870608fe6d76c13cf0ed63caa1d4481.jpgGuess you missed that my emphasis was the exact opposite of RG.
My surmise is that Trump will spend zero time as a criminal defendant post-Presidency.
djohn2oo8
01-16-2020, 01:20 PM
1217847786944782337
Simple no to both.
Trump does not have the power to impound appropriations without notice and giving good cause to do so in writing, and even then he can't do whatever he wants. In this case the GAO found the law was broken and public information shows it was broken at the direction of POTUS. That's facially impeachable conduct.
The allegation that Joe Biden did anything wrong is pure speculation, but even if it were true, that would not give the President the right to hold up appropriations.
:cry facially impeachable conduct :cry
Obama broke the law in Bergdahl release deal, GAO report says
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Politics-Voices/2014/0825/Obama-broke-the-law-in-Bergdahl-release-deal-GAO-report-says
:cry facially impeachable conduct :cry
Obama Administration Broke its Own Health Care Rule, GAO Says
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/obamacare-deadline/obama-administration-broke-its-own-health-care-rule-gao-says-n657501
Why do you think they were tracking the movements and security details of the US ambassador?
The answer to "why do you think" does not begin "your own article".
Evasion noted, sophist.
Define "they"
Trump will be criminally liable for the same scheme if he loses in November.
There isn't even a crime listed in the articles of impeachment :lol
What crime are you referring to if he loses in November? Be specific.
An unsworn tweet from someone accused of wrongdoing.
Totally believable. To you. :lmao
And you choose to believe a guy who's indicted for fraud that has already lied to the DOJ who's on conspiracy theory pusher Maddow's show :lmao
djohn2oo8
01-16-2020, 01:48 PM
There isn't even a crime listed in the articles of impeachment :lol
What crime are you referring to if he loses in November? Be specific.
Obstruction of justice you dumb motherfucker :lmao
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 01:49 PM
There isn't even a crime listed in the articles of impeachment :lol
What crime are you referring to if he loses in November? Be specific.The Impoundment Control Act of 1974.
I believe you're wrong about it not being included in the House's submission.
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 01:53 PM
TSA pretending there's no corroborating paper trail.
Ignorance is a shield.
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 01:54 PM
There isn't even a crime listed in the articles of impeachment :lol
What crime are you referring to if he loses in November? Be specific.
obstruction of Congressional oversight of the Exec is an impeachable offense
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 01:57 PM
TSA pretending there's no corroborating paper trail.
Ignorance is a shield.
Just like the English prick Piers Morgan asking on the The View (or somewhere?) repeatedly "where the racism?" around the Sussexes decision to step away from their royal rolls, pretending he didn't know about UK tabloids and other sources really pissed that "wog" Megan Markle's negritude was polluting the royal blood line.
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 02:16 PM
Define "they"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/they
or you could simply look at the article, posted. Parnas and Trump donor/toady Hyde.
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 02:35 PM
Obama
Obama*ding*
*ding*
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 02:41 PM
And you choose to believe a guy who's indicted for fraud that has already lied to the DOJ who's on conspiracy theory pusher Maddow's show :lmao
And you chose to believe the guy with the fraud university, the fraud steaks, the fraud condo sales, the fraud hotel construction, and the fraud charity.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 02:44 PM
And you choose to believe a guy who's indicted for fraud that has already lied to the DOJ who's on conspiracy theory pusher Maddow's show :lmaohttps://www.haaretz.co.il/polopoly_fs/1.5689407!/image/1018316866.jpg
The Impoundment Control Act of 1974.
I believe you're wrong about it not being included in the House's submission.
Funds were released before the end of the fiscal year. Try again.
What crime are you referring to if he loses in November? Be specific.
Obstruction of justice you dumb motherfucker :lmao
Where's my 2 grand faggot?
obstruction of Congressional oversight of the Exec is an impeachable offense
Going to the courts isn't obstructing congressional oversight.
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 02:53 PM
Funds were released before the end of the fiscal year..Not all the funds were released, the law was still broken according to the CBO. Try again.
You are aware impeachment and removal do not require any allegation that laws were broken, don't you?
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 02:54 PM
And you choose to believe a guy who's indicted for fraud that has already lied to the DOJ who's on conspiracy theory pusher Maddow's show :lmao
Why would Trump's personal lawyer be in constant contact with this guy for months on end?
Do tell, chucklefuck.
"he can't be believed because he is so shady" begs the question "why is the presidents lawyer neck deep with this guy?"
So many liars, cheats, and pedos in Trumps orbit...
Yet you never ask why that is. :lol
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/views-article/epstein_trump.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/rantt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Pence_Fruman_Parnas_Trump_Giuliani.jpeg?resize=850 %2C478&ssl=1
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 02:58 PM
TSA can't defend Trump's criminal scheme, all he can do is deflect, nitpick and namecall.
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1217630499277025280?s=19
eeeeyup
You realize this is an argument against dear leader, right?
No, of course you don't.
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 03:02 PM
Funds were released before the end of the fiscal year. Try again.
As
explained below, we conclude that OMB withheld the funds from obligation for an unauthorized reason in violation of the ICA.1
We also questionactions regarding funds appropriated to the Department of State (State) for security assistance to Ukraine.
Timeline doesn't matter. The reason does.
The Constitution specifically vests Congress with the power of the purse, providing
that “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of
Appropriations made by Law.” U.S. Const. art. I, § 9, cl. 7. The Constitution also
vests all legislative powers in Congress and sets forth the procedures of
bicameralism and presentment, through which the President may accept or veto a
bill passed by both Houses of Congress, and Congress may subsequently override a
presidential veto. Id., art. I, § 7, cl. 2, 3. The President is not vested with the power
to ignore or amend any such duly enacted law. See Clinton v. City of New York,
524 U.S. 417, 438 (1998) (the Constitution does not authorize the President “to
enact, to amend, or to repeal statutes”). Instead, he must “faithfully execute” the law
as Congress enacts it. U.S. Const., art. II, § 3.
An appropriations act is a law like any other; therefore, unless Congress has
enacted a law providing otherwise, the President must take care to ensure that
appropriations are prudently obligated during their period of availability. See
B-329092, Dec. 12, 2017 (the ICA operates on the premise that the President is
required to obligate funds appropriated by Congress, unless otherwise authorized to
withhold). In fact, Congress was concerned about the failure to prudently obligate
according to its Congressional prerogatives when it enacted and later amended the
ICA. See generally, H.R. Rep. No. 100-313, at 66–67 (1987); see also S. Rep. No.
93-688, at 75 (1974) (explaining that the objective was to assure that “the practice of
reserving funds does not become a vehicle for furthering Administration policies and
priorities at the expense of those decided by Congress”).
The Constitution grants the President no unilateral authority
You look like an asshole here, making more excuses for your child-raping hero.
spurraider21
01-16-2020, 03:03 PM
How about just the Senators running for POTUS.
and the ones who have endorsed trump for 2020
baseline bum
01-16-2020, 03:07 PM
https://twitter.com/minhtngo/status/1217719831069216770?s=19
Coincidence? Naaah :lol
https://i.ibb.co/tMgVb0h/mynigga.png
Not all the funds were released, the law was still broken according to the CBO. Try again.
You are aware impeachment and removal do not require any allegation that laws were broken, don't you?
The hold was lifted on September 11th, before the end of the fiscal year.
You were the one that brought up crimes that Trump would be liable for if he loses in November not me. I am still waiting for you to explain how a GAO opinion is something Trump will be held criminally liable for once he's out of office. After you try and figure that one out let me know why Obama wasn't held criminally liable for GAO opinions when he was out of office.
Timeline doesn't matter. The reason does.
You look like an asshole here, making more excuses for your child-raping hero.
https://twitter.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/1217855307415719939
Timeline doesn't matter. The reason does.
You look like an asshole here, making more excuses for your child-raping hero.
Do you think the GAO is a court?
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 03:30 PM
You look like an asshole here, making more excuses for your child-raping hero.
[makes more excuses for his child-raping hero]
:rolleyes
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 03:31 PM
The hold was lifted on September 11th, before the end of the fiscal year.
You were the one that brought up crimes that Trump would be liable for if he loses in November not me. I am still waiting for you to explain how a GAO opinion is something Trump will be held criminally liable for once he's out of office. After you try and figure that one out let me know why Obama wasn't held criminally liable for GAO opinions when he was out of office.We're talking past each other. I don't think the ICA violation is a criminal matter, it's more properly one for impeachment.
As for post-presidency legal hazard, Trump is an unindicted co-comspirator in the scheme Cohen went to prison for, as well as (possibly) obstruction of justice in the Mueller probe.Arguably, that obstruction could be part of impeachment too, not sure the House is done, nothing prevents them from sending supplemental material.
I honestly don't know who all has criminal investigations going on against Trump, should be easily checkable if you're interested, I don't keep a scoreboard.
https://twitter.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/1217855307415719939
Yeah, Obama prob shouldn't have done that. What's this got to do with ya boy tho?
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 03:44 PM
Totally unsurprising Obama resorted to shenanigans, that was impeachable too had the GOP majority cared to.
Apparently it didn't care to.
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 03:48 PM
Totally unsurprising Obama resorted to shenanigans, that was impeachable too had the GOP majority cared to.
Apparently it didn't care to.
Agreed on both.
Yeah, Obama prob shouldn't have done that. What's this got to do with ya boy tho?
I thought winehole was saying Trump would be held criminally liable for a GAO opinion...he just cleared that up.
We're talking past each other. I don't think the ICA violation is a criminal matter, it's more properly one for impeachment.
As for post-presidency legal hazard, Trump is an unindicted co-comspirator in the scheme Cohen went to prison for, as well as (possibly) obstruction of justice in the Mueller probe.Arguably, that obstruction could be part of impeachment too, not sure the House is done, nothing prevents them from sending supplemental material.
I honestly don't know who all has criminal investigations going on against Trump, should be easily checkable if you're interested, I don't keep a scoreboard.
Please explain how Trump will be held criminally liable after he’s out of office for Cohen being charged with one count of making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate (Trump) for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election"
And please tell me that’s not why you think Cohen is serving time :lol
Totally unsurprising Obama resorted to shenanigans, that was impeachable too had the GOP majority cared to.
Apparently it didn't care to.
Would it be totally surprising if I found neither you nor RandomGuy calling for Obama’s impeachment after either violation?
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 04:00 PM
Please explain how Trump will be held criminally liable after he’s out of office for Cohen being charged with one count of making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate (Trump) for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election"
And please tell me that’s not why you think Cohen is serving time :lolPass, not germane to the thread.
There are so many crooked people around Trump and so many charges laid it can be hard to keep straight -- what did Cohen go to prison for? Happy to accept correction if I goofed.
LkrFan
01-16-2020, 04:02 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1217909231946477575?s=19
Tuh-heeeeee!! :cry :cry
LkrFan
01-16-2020, 04:03 PM
https://i.ibb.co/tMgVb0h/mynigga.png
:lol
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 04:05 PM
Would it be totally surprising if I found neither you nor RandomGuy calling for Obama’s impeachment after either violation?I wasn't aware of it, I don't believe you brought it up at the time either.
Spurs Homer
01-16-2020, 04:05 PM
Please explain how Trump will be held criminally liable after he’s out of office for Cohen being charged with one count of making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate (Trump) for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election"
And please tell me that’s not why you think Cohen is serving time :lol
because it is a Felony
individual 1 directed the Felony
but could not be charged (yet) because of the OLC memo
spurraider21
01-16-2020, 04:32 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1217909231946477575?s=19
Tuh-heeeeee!! :cry :cry
REEEEEEEEEE
Pass, not germane to the thread.
There are so many crooked people around Trump and so many charges laid it can be hard to keep straight -- what did Cohen go to prison for? Happy to accept correction if I goofed.
You brought Trump being criminally liable after office to this thread and now you want to pass and say it's not germane? :lol
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 04:40 PM
You brought Trump being criminally liable after office to this thread and now you want to pass and say it's not germane? :lolI answered your question.
If I've goofed about Cohen, happy to receive correction.
RandomGuy
01-16-2020, 04:44 PM
Would it be totally surprising if I found neither you nor RandomGuy calling for Obama’s impeachment after either violation?
Neither would seem like a high crime.
Being dishonest, you leave out the why, of course.
The why is because child-raping Trump was using funds to extort a bribe from a foreign country.
Was Obama trying to extort a bribe for his re-election campaign from a foreign country using taxpayer money, like your child-raping hero, Trump? Yes or no will do.
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 04:44 PM
Obstruction of justice is a real ass crime too, btw.
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 04:44 PM
Kellyanne Conway claims she doesn’t know Lev Parnas —
but his lawyer has a photo showing otherwise
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Screen-Shot-2020-01-16-at-11.50.18-AM-e1579205252606.png
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/kellyanne-conway-claims-she-doesnt-know-lev-parnas-but-his-lawyer-has-a-photo-showing-otherwise/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3504&recip_id=298460&list_id=1
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 04:45 PM
#LevRemembers
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 05:18 PM
Wombat Hair threatens fellow Republicans if they don't go along with impeachment trial cover-up (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/16/1911926/-Rand-Paul-threatens-fellow-Republicans-if-they-vote-against-an-impeachment-trial-cover-up)
https://images.dailykos.com/images/575191/story_image/GettyImages-931919936.jpg?1533747017
If the Senate votes to subpoena relevant witnesses like former national security adviser John Bolton who actually, you know, witnessed what Trump was doing, Paul warns, he’ll call wildly irrelevant witnesses like Hunter Biden or vulnerable ones like the original whistleblower, to put Republicans facing reelection in a tough spot.
“If you vote against Hunter Biden, you’re voting to lose your election, basically. Seriously.
That’s what it is,” Paul told Politico.
“If you don’t want to vote and you think you’re going to have to vote against Hunter Biden,
you should just vote against witnesses, period.”
”My first preference would be to be done with it as soon as possible and not to have any witnesses,” Paul said—
in other words, ignore the evidence and just do the partisan thing.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/16/1911926/-Rand-Paul-threatens-fellow-Republicans-if-they-vote-against-an-impeachment-trial-cover-up?detail=emaildkre
thispego
01-16-2020, 05:20 PM
1) No
2) No
1) there was a formal process that had already screened ukraine and Congress approved the money AFTER the ukraine had cleared ALL its hurdles and the funds were officially approved.
2) Biden followed official Govt policy and your premise is bullshit . Biden pushed for a prosecutor who followed the law - got rid of the corrupt one. Your cult leader WANTS the corrupt people there because then they will allow corruption like USA bribery & extortion from the Trump rogue criminals.
How clueless can you be? :lol
thispego
01-16-2020, 05:27 PM
Wombat Hair threatens fellow Republicans if they don't go along with impeachment trial cover-up (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/16/1911926/-Rand-Paul-threatens-fellow-Republicans-if-they-vote-against-an-impeachment-trial-cover-up)
https://images.dailykos.com/images/575191/story_image/GettyImages-931919936.jpg?1533747017
If the Senate votes to subpoena relevant witnesses like former national security adviser John Bolton who actually, you know, witnessed what Trump was doing, Paul warns, he’ll call wildly irrelevant witnesses like Hunter Biden or vulnerable ones like the original whistleblower, to put Republicans facing reelection in a tough spot.
“If you vote against Hunter Biden, you’re voting to lose your election, basically. Seriously.
That’s what it is,” Paul told Politico.
“If you don’t want to vote and you think you’re going to have to vote against Hunter Biden,
you should just vote against witnesses, period.”
”My first preference would be to be done with it as soon as possible and not to have any witnesses,” Paul said—
in other words, ignore the evidence and just do the partisan thing.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/16/1911926/-Rand-Paul-threatens-fellow-Republicans-if-they-vote-against-an-impeachment-trial-cover-up?detail=emaildkre
As it should be, can we all just get back to fuckin work, please?
Chris
01-16-2020, 05:34 PM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1217874715735277569?s=19
D'Souza
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 05:43 PM
It really hurts DJT's feelings, though. He'll never get over it.
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 05:49 PM
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1217874715735277569?s=19
D'SouzaThat guy is forever a convicted felon.
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 05:52 PM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/756607/story_image/1470ckCOMICtrumpiwantyou.png?1579102432
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 06:47 PM
:lol
1217849087413903362
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 06:57 PM
Robert Hyde Denies Stalking Yovanovitch in Bonkers, Expletive-Filled Interview:
‘I’m a Little Landscaper From F*cking Connecticut!’
https://www.mediaite.com/news/robert-hyde-denies-stalking-yovanovitch-in-bonkers-expletive-filled-interview-im-a-little-landscaper-from-fcking-connecticut/ (https://www.mediaite.com/news/robert-hyde-denies-stalking-yovanovitch-in-bonkers-expletive-filled-interview-im-a-little-landscaper-from-fcking-connecticut/)
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 08:37 PM
what a child, spewing childish bullshit to his equally infantile cult mob
https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/TMJUr0Hqxqec2sgQsHDgDx7bnQNArQyZNdDYusrsjSasdoO82r-GdH3fx6bzguIkUQD8l2ZvsG6CFd3a--pi7VJIQAuZGAt_axneuiNMJpMjrVMUu1mTR8uZzVQ7AEWdkee0 Y8ffb-4YOkal7Wrq06xkbbPw7aCmeaF8zNkMp2QI263PM36WaA=s0-d-e1-ft#https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/16/us/politics/oakImage-1579209463660/oakImage-1579209463660-articleLarge.png
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1217925096511287296
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao
pgardn
01-16-2020, 08:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1217925096511287296
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao
If you think this is funny, did I tell you about the one about the guy with the orange face and fake hair?
Murphy’s take on Schiff is spot on.
https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/TMJUr0Hqxqec2sgQsHDgDx7bnQNArQyZNdDYusrsjSasdoO82r-GdH3fx6bzguIkUQD8l2ZvsG6CFd3a--pi7VJIQAuZGAt_axneuiNMJpMjrVMUu1mTR8uZzVQ7AEWdkee0 Y8ffb-4YOkal7Wrq06xkbbPw7aCmeaF8zNkMp2QI263PM36WaA=s0-d-e1-ft#https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/16/us/politics/oakImage-1579209463660/oakImage-1579209463660-articleLarge.png
Is this satire? All caps naturally.
Murphy’s take on Schiff is spot on.
https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1217941565731221504
:lmao
Chris
01-16-2020, 09:08 PM
2Gej5nsHi0o
Murphy’s take on Schiff is spot on.
IS THIS SATIRE? ALL CAPS NATURALLY.
https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1217884068383272960
:lmao
Chris
01-16-2020, 09:09 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1217947144860192770?s=19
Murphy’s take on Schiff is spot on.
IS THIS SATIRE? ALL CAPS NATURALLY.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/democratic-memo-fbi-trump-423447
IS THIS SATIRE? ALL CAPS NATURALLY.
https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1217884068383272960
:lmao
What?
IS THIS SATIRE? ALL CAPS NATURALLY.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/democratic-memo-fbi-trump-423447
Huh? :lol
Get some sleep, TSA. You make no sense. :lol
Spurminator
01-16-2020, 09:20 PM
Cult-leader-Trump-loving TSA thinks it's hiii larious that Adam Schiff has admirers.
What a life, to be so self unaware.
monosylab1k
01-16-2020, 09:27 PM
I mean come on, Adam Schiff is definitely weird as hell and behaves awkwardly. He’s the Devin Nunes of the left.
Chris
01-16-2020, 09:34 PM
https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1217952918789181440?s=19
I mean come on, Adam Schiff is definitely weird as hell and behaves awkwardly. He’s the Devin Nunes of the left.
They both had the same evidence.
Nunes blew the lid on the FISA abuse and you all mocked him.
Schiff lied and said there was no FISA abuse and you blew him.
:lol you all don’t even try anymore
Chris
01-16-2020, 10:51 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1218011636977541121?s=19
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 11:14 PM
Moving Goalposts?
Reince Priebus Tells Hannity:
Even if Parnas is Telling the Truth About Trump :lol now LIAR Parnas is telling the truth :lol
‘It’s Still Not Impeachable’ :lol
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/moving-goalposts-reince-pribus-tells-hannity-even-if-parnas-is-telling-the-truth-about-trump-its-still-not-impeachable/ (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/moving-goalposts-reince-pribus-tells-hannity-even-if-parnas-is-telling-the-truth-about-trump-its-still-not-impeachable/)
Priebus, one of the very best of The Best People :lol
ElNono
01-17-2020, 12:25 AM
No one claimed that.
That's exactly the claim. Do you even read what you post, retard?
ElNono
01-17-2020, 12:34 AM
:lol Parnas good now
This evidence comes from a lying fraudster. When did he write the note? Be specific. Coming from a subpoena doesn't make the note true. Parnas is clearly trying to get a reduced sentence.
I never claimed Parnas was good, that's an unfounded inference. He's very likely guilty as hell of what he's been accused of.
That, however, is the point: considering he's in the middle of a criminal case, and all these items can be used as evidence against him, fabricating evidence doesn't strike me as a smart move, much less supported by his counsel. He's not being tried for helping POTUS/Giuliani, he's being tried for illegally funneling foreign money to political organizations and candidates.
ElNono
01-17-2020, 12:40 AM
It really hurts DJT's feelings, though. He'll never get over it.
Neither will D'Souza or Qhris
Winehole23
01-17-2020, 03:28 AM
Neither will D'Souza or QhrisRight wing victimology uber alles.
benefactor
01-17-2020, 10:48 AM
https://www.mediaite.com/news/gop-group-launches-1m-campaign-to-flood-lou-dobbs-and-fox-friends-with-ads-insisting-on-fair-impeachment-trial/
In before Trump Twitter meltdown.
RandomGuy
01-17-2020, 11:43 AM
You brought Trump being criminally liable after office to this thread and now you want to pass and say it's not germane? :lol
WH was talking about the felonies he committed with Cohen, and the felonies outlined in the Mueller report. He wasn't trying to say that extorting a foreign country for a bribe using taxpayer money was necessarily what he would be criminally liable for. Impeachment is generally held as the remedy for such abuses of power.
Sadly Trump will not be held accountable for raping children with Epstein. Guess that is what wealth and privilege buy, i.e. an army of lawyers to prevent accountability.
https://imgv2-1-f.scribdassets.com/img/document/326057237/original/0a158aca6f/1532128174?v=1
https://miningawareness.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/img_1467.png?w=529&h=706
Keep making excuses.
Chris
01-17-2020, 01:46 PM
https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1218144379766034432?s=19
Spurs Homer
01-17-2020, 02:04 PM
WH was talking about the felonies he committed with Cohen, and the felonies outlined in the Mueller report. He wasn't trying to say that extorting a foreign country for a bribe using taxpayer money was necessarily what he would be criminally liable for. Impeachment is generally held as the remedy for such abuses of power.
Sadly Trump will not be held accountable for raping children with Epstein. Guess that is what wealth and privilege buy, i.e. an army of lawyers to prevent accountability.
https://imgv2-1-f.scribdassets.com/img/document/326057237/original/0a158aca6f/1532128174?v=1
https://miningawareness.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/img_1467.png?w=529&h=706
Keep making excuses.
wasting your time
trump cultists will actually approve and cheer for those crimes
The rapist pedo in chief
RandomGuy
01-17-2020, 02:20 PM
wasting your time
trump cultists will actually approve and cheer for those crimes
The rapist pedo in chief
TSA was super concerned about the topic when it was Democrats. Now... with better evidence than he ever had for that conspiracy theory, nothing.
Spurs Homer
01-17-2020, 02:26 PM
TSA was super concerned about the topic when it was Democrats. Now... with better evidence than he ever had for that conspiracy theory, nothing.
ive posted that info - either from news reports or from legal court filings whenever a cultist challenged me for calling trump a criminal
a sex offender
a pedo
a rapist
and after showing them evidence-
they just went on sperm-shielding the rapist as if they had never read it
they will die on the criminal hill called trump - all of the cultists
ChumpDumper
01-17-2020, 02:52 PM
https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1218144379766034432?s=19:lmao Qhris still following Queen Beanz
Blake
01-17-2020, 02:53 PM
https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1218144379766034432?s=19
Lol "Beanz"
DarrinS
01-17-2020, 03:01 PM
TSA was super concerned about the topic when it was Democrats. Now... with better evidence than he ever had for that conspiracy theory, nothing.
What evidence?
boutons_deux
01-17-2020, 03:59 PM
high points of Parnas' spilling his gutz Thursday night (scroll down for more articles)
Lev Parnas Says Trump Is Like a ‘Cult Leader’
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z3bn5x/lev-parnas-says-trump-is-like-a-cult-leader?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=campaign_981105
jimmy ricky, Pompeo, the lawyers, the entire mafiya implicated, at very least in the coverup and obstruction.
lawyers in prison to Parnas: "be good boy and shut up to protect Trash",
they all knew, from the moment of the perfect phone call, that Trash had committed crime(s)
Winehole23
01-17-2020, 04:08 PM
https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1218144379766034432?s=19Trump begged this guy to come out of retirement to work for him, what was he thinking?
boutons_deux
01-17-2020, 04:17 PM
Dems should send House sergeant at arms to arrest any of Trash's mafiya who refuse to testify as part of the CRIMINAL obstruction.
they cannot be allowed to escape. Successful obstruction would be a lesson, an example to build upon for the next Repug authoritarians.
boutons_deux
01-17-2020, 04:20 PM
Alan Dershowitz, Devil’s Advocate
The noted lawyer’s long, controversial career—
and the accusations against him.
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5d3bac87361f620009d2a1fb/4:3/w_728,c_limit/190805_r34728_rd.jpg
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/08/05/alan-dershowitz-devils-advocate?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenew sletter_Daily_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_011720&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Daily
It's funny how everyone the left hates is a rapist and child molester though people forgot about it for 40 years and suddenly there's a witness.
:lol
Chris
01-17-2020, 07:10 PM
Lol "Beanz"
lol ad hominem
Chris
01-17-2020, 07:11 PM
:lmao Qhris still following Queen Beanz
lol ad hominem
LkrFan
01-17-2020, 07:40 PM
https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1218323737004650496?s=19
I know when that hotline bling...Dems can start impeaching :lmao
Winehole23
01-17-2020, 07:46 PM
Dersh says he's not part of Trump's legal team. So then, does that make him...a witness for the defense?
1218253220054736897
ChumpDumper
01-17-2020, 07:49 PM
lol ad hominemShe pushes dozens of completely false conspiracy theories.
Like QAnon.
Remember, you followed that Qhris.
Also, she can't even run a secure website in 2020.:lmao
WH was talking about the felonies he committed with Cohen, and the felonies outlined in the Mueller report. He wasn't trying to say that extorting a foreign country for a bribe using taxpayer money was necessarily what he would be criminally liable for. Impeachment is generally held as the remedy for such abuses of power.
Sadly Trump will not be held accountable for raping children with Epstein. Guess that is what wealth and privilege buy, i.e. an army of lawyers to prevent accountability.
https://imgv2-1-f.scribdassets.com/img/document/326057237/original/0a158aca6f/1532128174?v=1
https://miningawareness.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/img_1467.png?w=529&h=706
Keep making excuses.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao
boutons_deux
01-17-2020, 08:30 PM
Lev Parnas has Trump ‘unnerved’:
ex-FBI official says the president doesn’t know what he ‘has up his sleeve’
President Donald Trump is “very nervous” about what Lev Parnas may have on him,
what has my attention, Peter, is this is a variance from the president’s usual approach of ‘I did it, so what?’ or doubling down,” Figliuzzi said.
“Now what we’re seeing the exact opposite, now it’s, ‘I don’t know the guy.’
When someone varies from their usual M.O.., you should pay attention and I think Parnas has him very nervous,” he continued.
“My theory is because Parnas is the guy who can actually say
none of this Ukraine stuff was ever about corruption — and by the way,
I’m one step away from the president because I’m working for Rudy Giuliani,” he explained.
“I think that’s got the president unnerved.”
“does he have voice mails and videotapes or recordings that he’s saving for later? Maybe for SDNY?”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/lev-parnas-has-trump-unnerved-ex-fbi-official-says-the-president-doesnt-know-what-he-has-up-his-sleeve/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/lev-parnas-has-trump-unnerved-ex-fbi-official-says-the-president-doesnt-know-what-he-has-up-his-sleeve/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)
boutons_deux
01-17-2020, 08:41 PM
Why was Lev Parnas wearing a ‘Presidential Service Badge’ awarded to troops who serve in the White House?
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Igor-Fruman-and-Rudy-Giuliani-and-Lev-Parnas.jpg
“The Presidential Service Badge (PSB) is an identification badge of the United States Armed Forces which is awarded to members of the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S. Air Force, U.S. Marine Corps, and U.S. Coast Guard as well as other members of the Uniformed Services, such as the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Corps and the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, who serve as full-time military staff to the President of the United States,” Wikipedia explained (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Service_Badge).
Haberman also noted a picture showing former White House advisor Seb Gorka apparently wearing the same pin.
David Lapan@DaveLapanDC
(https://twitter.com/DaveLapanDC)
Replying to maggieNYT (https://twitter.com/_/status/1218336142631809025)
It’s totally inappropriate for Parnas and Gorka to wear the Presidental Service Badge lapel pin.
The badge is for US military service members assigned to duties at the WH.
Not as serious as stolen valor but not far off.
7:11 PM - Jan 17, 2020 (https://twitter.com/DaveLapanDC/status/1218340127136800769)
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/why-was-lev-parnas-wearing-a-presidential-service-badge-awarded-to-troops-who-serve-in-the-white-house/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/why-was-lev-parnas-wearing-a-presidential-service-badge-awarded-to-troops-who-serve-in-the-white-house/)
Lifelong FRAUD Trash disrespecting the US military, yet again, giving pins FRAUDULENTLY to assholes.
boutons_deux
01-17-2020, 09:47 PM
It Just Got Weirder, Folks. A Lot Weirder.
exchanges between Robert Hyde – the landscaper from Connecticut – and an unidentified man in Belgian, or at least texting from a Belgian country code number.
A lot of those reports from Hyde to Parnas, allegedly about Yovanovitch’s whereabouts and actions, seemed to come from this guy in Belgium.
It’s very weird and very dark.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/it-just-got-weirder-folks-a-lot-weirder
boutons_deux
01-17-2020, 09:54 PM
Texts suggest Trump supporter sent Parnas information about Ambassador Yovanovitch's whereabouts
They include screenshots of messages that appear to have been sent to Robert Hyde, who forwarded them to Parnas.
Hyde identified the man in texts to NBC News and on Twitter as Anthony de Caluwe and said he’d merely copied and pasted the information to Parnas (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/key-things-we-learned-lev-parnas-revealing-msnbc-interview-n1116931) from messages he’d received from de Caluwe.
He confirmed that Hyde had indeed asked him for information about Marie Yovanovitch's whereabouts but he had declined to help Hyde.
The messages sent to Hyde came from a WhatsApp user with a profile photograph of de Caluwe.
They came from a Belgian phone number, and
while the final digits of the number are redacted in the screenshots released by the House,
the first five digits exactly match a Belgian phone number for de Caluwe listed on one of his online profiles.
Karyn Turk, a pro-Trump YouTube personality and friend of de Caluwe’s, said she was now representing de Caluwe
corroborate Hyde’s claim that he'd copied and pasted information to Parnas that he'd received from de Caluwe.
Hyde apparently forwarded to Parnas the screenshots of his communications with de Caluwe.
The baffling developments add to an extraordinary new chapter in the impeachment saga
The texts showed Hyde telling Parnas that he had Yovanovitch under physical and possibly electronic surveillance in Ukraine.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/texts-suggest-robert-hyde-passed-along-details-about-yovanovitch-movements-n1118226 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/texts-suggest-robert-hyde-passed-along-details-about-yovanovitch-movements-n1118226)
boutons_deux
01-17-2020, 10:00 PM
Dershowitz is running a ‘bizarro defense’ of Trump:
Harvard Law colleague says ‘Alan is just completely wacko’
Dershowitz claimed that
neither abuse of power nor obstruction of Congress count as “high crimes” under the constitution.
my colleague has it upside down,” Tribe replied.
“I knew that the Trump defense was going to rely in large part on alternative facts,
but I didn’t know they were also going to use alternative law. :lol
There is no —
there is no legal principle that says something has to violate a federal criminal statute in order to be impeachable,”
he explained.
“When the impeachment power was put in the constitution, there were no federal criminal statutes,”
“Allen is just completely wacko on this.
I don’t understand why the president thinks it will help him to have this kind of bizarro defense,” :lol Trash "thinks"?
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/dershowitz-is-running-a-bizarro-defense-of-trump-harvard-law-colleague-says-alan-is-just-completely-wacko/
boutons_deux
01-18-2020, 12:07 AM
That Time Brett Kavanaugh Sat There as Ken Starr Argued Clinton’s Invocation of Privileges Was an ‘Abuse’
https://am22.akamaized.net/lc/cnt/uploads/2020/01/starr.jpg
When Kavanaugh railed against (https://apnews.com/50fc0c4a19574060a3d38a4525a573fc/Kavanaugh%27s-%27revenge%27-theory-spotlights-past-with-Clintons) “revenge on behalf of the Clintons” during his confirmation hearings,
he was suggesting that the 2016 election result (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/408821-kavanaugh-says-hes-victim-of-revenge-on-behalf-of-the-clintons) and his time and role on Starr’s team investigating Bill Clinton (https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/ken-starrs-blatantly-hypocritical-criticism-about-muellers-partisan-team/) had something to do with the allegations of sexual misconduct against him.
It was Nov. 1998 and there was a hearing before the House Judiciary Committee. Rep. Steve Chabot (R-Ohio)
asked Starr for his thoughts on how cooperative the Clinton administration had been with his investigation.
the Clinton administration invoked executive privilege for the purpose or effect of delay, and that, for him, this was an “abuse”–
"I think if privileges are invoked for the purposes of delay and have the intended effect of delay"
https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/that-time-brett-kavanaugh-sat-there-as-ken-starr-argued-clintons-invocation-of-privileges-was-an-abuse/ (https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/that-time-brett-kavanaugh-sat-there-as-ken-starr-argued-clintons-invocation-of-privileges-was-an-abuse/)
Winehole23
01-18-2020, 12:44 AM
Dersh is arguing that abuse of power, even if proven, is not an impeachable offense.
Dersh might want to reread Federalist No. 65:
The subjects of its jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust.https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed65.asp
boutons_deux
01-18-2020, 10:56 AM
Dersh is arguing that abuse of power, even if proven, is not an impeachable offense.
Dersh might want to reread Federalist No. 65:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed65.asp
Dersh's version of "he did it, and we don't care"
boutons_deux
01-18-2020, 11:02 AM
CNN legal analyst argues Trump’s new ‘reality show’ legal team could blow up in his face
Trump’s new legal team for his defense in the Senate impeachment trial is stocked with big names and celebrities, most notably Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr, and
the White House clearly hopes their supposed gravitas :lol will help win a victory in public opinion.
“It’s obviously in keeping with the president’s reality show instincts, the big dramatic reveal, bringing back characters from last season — the last impeachment!
“This has all the theatrical elements that the president loves.
Ken Starr.
There are hours and hours and hours of footage of Ken
Starr making an impassioned case for the importance of holding the President of the United States accountable.
The importance of the United States Congress doing its constitutional duty in impeaching the president.
He wrote a memoir in which he described
his frustration with the idea that the Clinton administration would dare to stonewall.
Everything Ken Starr says in defense of the president, there are going to be clips to contrast with that, and
I think it’s going to end up doing is just underscoring the hypocrisy here, and
the hypocrisy of the Republicans more generally.”
Dershowitz,
“somebody who’s been implicated in a number of personal scandals,” she said.
“Somebody who has a professional reputation closely tied to people like Jeffrey Epstein.
Putting this as a person to represent Donald Trump at a moment
when the Senate is trying to decide questions of his character, of his fitness for office,
the idea that these are the people that are going to make those four or five moderate Republican senators comfortable …
and feel like they have cover to hold tight with Republicans and defend the president, I
don’t see that this is necessarily the easiest strategy for the president.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/cnn-legal-analyst-argues-trumps-new-reality-show-legal-team-could-blow-up-in-his-face/
Spurs Homer
01-18-2020, 12:59 PM
CNN legal analyst argues Trump’s new ‘reality show’ legal team could blow up in his face
Trump’s new legal team for his defense in the Senate impeachment trial is stocked with big names and celebrities, most notably Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr, and
the White House clearly hopes their supposed gravitas :lol will help win a victory in public opinion.
“It’s obviously in keeping with the president’s reality show instincts, the big dramatic reveal, bringing back characters from last season — the last impeachment!
“This has all the theatrical elements that the president loves.
Ken Starr.
There are hours and hours and hours of footage of Ken
Starr making an impassioned case for the importance of holding the President of the United States accountable.
The importance of the United States Congress doing its constitutional duty in impeaching the president.
He wrote a memoir in which he described
his frustration with the idea that the Clinton administration would dare to stonewall.
Everything Ken Starr says in defense of the president, there are going to be clips to contrast with that, and
I think it’s going to end up doing is just underscoring the hypocrisy here, and
the hypocrisy of the Republicans more generally.”
Dershowitz,
“somebody who’s been implicated in a number of personal scandals,” she said.
“Somebody who has a professional reputation closely tied to people like Jeffrey Epstein.
Putting this as a person to represent Donald Trump at a moment
when the Senate is trying to decide questions of his character, of his fitness for office,
the idea that these are the people that are going to make those four or five moderate Republican senators comfortable …
and feel like they have cover to hold tight with Republicans and defend the president, I
don’t see that this is necessarily the easiest strategy for the president.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/cnn-legal-analyst-argues-trumps-new-reality-show-legal-team-could-blow-up-in-his-face/
Ken Starr: “well, of course I said that a president stonewalling was criminal and impeachable- but THAT was a Democrat in office- THIS is regarding our lord and savior Don the Con Trump goddamnit!!!”
boutons_deux
01-18-2020, 06:07 PM
Democrats Release Evidence Of Devin Nunes Role In Ukraine Plot
Rep. Devin Nunes was caught red-handed as Democrats have released text messages between his top aide and Lev Parnas on the Ukraine plot.
One of the exchanges involved Nunes aide Derek Harvey setting up a meeting with Lev Parnas at the Trump Hotel:
Parnas on April 19: Also do you want to interview the general prosecutor who got [ditched] by Biden? Also the anti corruption prosecutor? Let me know.
Harvey: Does tomorrow work?
The messages also show that Harvey met with Giuliani and Parnas at the Trump Hotel.
The messages are confirmation of Parnas’s story that Nunes was involved
in the plot (https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/16/devin-nunes-is-doomed-after-getting-caught-in-trumps-ukraine-plot.html) but trying to lay low because he is under investigation by the House Ethics Committee.
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/18/democrats-release-evidence-of-devin-nunes-role-in-ukraine-plot.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/18/democrats-release-evidence-of-devin-nunes-role-in-ukraine-plot.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)
boutons_deux
01-18-2020, 06:36 PM
House Impeachment Managers File Crushing Brief Arguing For Trump’s Conviction
The Democratic House impeachment managers have filed a brief laying out their case arguing for Trump’s conviction and removal.
The House Impeachment managers wrote: (https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/in_re_president_trump_house_impeachment_trial_brie f_and_sof_1.18.20.pdf)
The Constitution entrusts Congress with the solemn task of impeaching and removing from office a President who engages in “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
The impeachment power is an essential check on the authority of the President, and
Congress must exercise this power when the President places his personal or political interests above those of the Nation.
President Trump has done exactly that.
His misconduct challenges the fundamental principle that Americans should decide American elections, and
that a divided system of government,
in which no single branch operates without the check and balance of the others,
preserves the liberty we all hold dear.
The country is watching to see how the Senate responds.
History will judge each Senator’s willingness to rise above partisan differences, view the facts honestly, and defend the Constitution.
The outcome of these proceedings will determine
whether generations to come will enjoy a safe and secure democracy in which the President is not a king, and
in which no one, particularly the President, is above the law.
The impeachment managers,
Reps. Adam Schiff,
Jerrold Nadler,
Zoe Lofgren,
Hakeem Jeffries,
Val Demings,
Jason Crow, and
Sylvia Garcia,
wrote in a joint statement provided to PoliticusUSA,
“The case against the President of the United States
is simple,
the facts are indisputable,
and the evidence is overwhelming:
President Trump abused the power of his office to solicit foreign interference in our elections for his own personal political gain,
thereby jeopardizing our national security, the integrity of our elections, and our democracy.
And when the President got caught, he tried to cover it up by obstructing the House’s investigation into his misconduct.
Senators must accept and fulfill the responsibility placed on them by the Framers of our Constitution and the Oaths they have just taken to do impartial justice.
They must conduct a fair trial —
fair to the President and fair to the American people.”
The case against Trump is open and closed.
There is no doubt that the president did what he has been accused of doing.
The fact that
his defense is going to say that he did it,
but it’s not an impeachable offense,
concedes the facts of the case.
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/18/house-impeachment-managers-file-crushing-brief-arguing-for-trumps-conviction.html (https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/18/house-impeachment-managers-file-crushing-brief-arguing-for-trumps-conviction.html)
Chris
01-19-2020, 02:48 AM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1218782028616912896?s=19
:lol
ChumpDumper
01-19-2020, 12:11 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1218782028616912896?s=19
:lolSwear Parnas and Trump in. Let's see who lies.
thispego
01-19-2020, 02:03 PM
God. This shit is going to go on for months :smh
boutons_deux
01-19-2020, 06:09 PM
Repug orchestra of craven assholes clearing its throat
Cornyn Says Giuliani ‘Not Relevant’ To Senate Trial,
Calls Parnas A ‘Grifter’
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/cornyn-giuliani-not-relevant-senate-impeachment-trial-parnas-grifter?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/cornyn-giuliani-not-relevant-senate-impeachment-trial-parnas-grifter?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)
boutons_deux
01-19-2020, 06:14 PM
Ex-Bush aide admits GOP would have removed Obama if he did ‘one tenth of what Trump has done’
accused Republican lawmakers of hypocrisy on Sunday for for failing to honestly consider the impeachment of President Donald Trump.
Matthew Dowd,
“Deep in their hearts the Republicans in Congress know that
if Obama had done one tenth of what President Trump has done
they would have voted to impeach and convict him,” Dowd wrote.
“And Fox News would have been cheering them on.
And Trump would have been pushing for it from the sidelines.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ex-bush-aide-admits-gop-would-have-removed-obama-if-he-did-one-tenth-of-what-trump-has-done/
boutons_deux
01-19-2020, 06:20 PM
Another orchestrated talking point
"Our confessed guy is indefensively bad, but your guy was just as bad"
Republicans Falsely Accuse Obama Of Impeachable Offenses To Defend Trump
Sen. David Perdue (R-GA) :lol couldn’t defend Trump on the facts, so he accused Obama of impeachable offenses.
“In fast and furious he did exactly this, :lol
he withheld evidence from the House of Representatives, and the Republicans decided that it was not obstruction of Congress.
The Democrats agreed and we did not pursue it.
Nancy Pelosi, Nadler all said that was not obstruction, and yet this case,
when the president decides to use executive privilege, they now say, oh no, that is obstruction of Congress.”
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/19/republicans-falsely-accuse-obama-of-impeachable-offenses-to-defend-trump.html
Obama's imagined crime as fantasized by Repugs, is 100% different from Trash's confessed crime.
False equivalence rules, OK
So why didn't Repugs impeach the Hated Knitter?
boutons_deux
01-19-2020, 08:10 PM
GOP Senator Brushes Off Trump Soliciting Foreign Interference: ‘Things Happen’
Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) :lol
doesn’t find President Trump’s attempt to
dig up false allegations against political rivals to be a big deal. :lol
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/shelby-trump-foreign-interference-things-happen?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/shelby-trump-foreign-interference-things-happen?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)
Things Don't Happen
People Do Things, you craven prick
the prick leaves out that Trash did the "thing" of extortion using taxpayer $100Ms
boutons_deux
01-19-2020, 08:12 PM
Tribe destroys Dershowitz
"Laurence Tribe
(https://twitter.com/tribelaw)✔@tribelaw
(https://twitter.com/tribelaw)
.@AlanDersh (https://twitter.com/AlanDersh) comments on impeachment on Larry King Live, 8/24/98
01:41:04 DERSHOWITZ:
“It certainly doesn't have to be a crime
if you have somebody
who completely corrupts the office of president and
who abuses trust and
who poses great danger to our liberty.”
4:48 PM - Jan 19, 2020 (https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1219028907749511168)
boutons_deux
01-19-2020, 08:26 PM
Schiff Accuses Intelligence Community of Withholding Ukraine Documents From Congress
accused the National Security Agency of withholding “potentially relevant documents (https://www.yahoo.com/news/schiff-accuses-nsa-cia-withholding-191326038.html)” from Congress regarding Ukraine at a time when the impeachment trial against President Donald Trump is set to begin
intelligence agency officials were not eager to appear before his committee in a public forum to avoid disagreeing with President Donald Trump.
“The intelligence community is reluctant to have an open hearing,
something that we had done every year prior to the Trump administration,
because they’re worried about angering the president,”
the intelligence community is beginning to withhold documents from Congress on the issue of Ukraine,”
“They appear to be succumbing to pressure from the administration.
The NSA in particular is withholding what are potentially relevant documents to our oversight responsibilities on Ukraine,
but also withholding documents potentially relevant that the senators might want to see during the trial.”
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/schiff-intelligence-community-withholding-ukraine-documents.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/schiff-intelligence-community-withholding-ukraine-documents.html)
thispego
01-19-2020, 08:58 PM
Schiff Accuses Intelligence Community of Withholding Ukraine Documents From Congress
accused the National Security Agency of withholding “potentially relevant documents (https://www.yahoo.com/news/schiff-accuses-nsa-cia-withholding-191326038.html)” from Congress regarding Ukraine at a time when the impeachment trial against President Donald Trump is set to begin
intelligence agency officials were not eager to appear before his committee in a public forum to avoid disagreeing with President Donald Trump.
“The intelligence community is reluctant to have an open hearing,
something that we had done every year prior to the Trump administration,
because they’re worried about angering the president,”
the intelligence community is beginning to withhold documents from Congress on the issue of Ukraine,”
“They appear to be succumbing to pressure from the administration.
The NSA in particular is withholding what are potentially relevant documents to our oversight responsibilities on Ukraine,
but also withholding documents potentially relevant that the senators might want to see during the trial.”
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/schiff-intelligence-community-withholding-ukraine-documents.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/schiff-intelligence-community-withholding-ukraine-documents.html)
NEEEEEDDS MOOOORREEEE
Tribe destroys Dershowitz
"Laurence Tribe
(https://twitter.com/tribelaw)✔@tribelaw
(https://twitter.com/tribelaw)
.@AlanDersh (https://twitter.com/AlanDersh) comments on impeachment on Larry King Live, 8/24/98
01:41:04 DERSHOWITZ:
“It certainly doesn't have to be a crime
if you have somebody
who completely corrupts the office of president and
who abuses trust and
who poses great danger to our liberty.”
4:48 PM - Jan 19, 2020 (https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1219028907749511168)
If President Trump is removed from office then there will be no one left to fight the battle against low-flow toilets. There will be no one left! Is that really what you want?
ChumpDumper
01-19-2020, 10:32 PM
NEEEEEDDS MOOOORREEEEWhy are you afraid of evidence?
It will all totally exonerate Trump, so you should be in favor of knowing everything.
pgardn
01-19-2020, 10:32 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/19/trumps-lawyers-shouldnt-be-allowed-use-bogus-legal-arguments-impeachment/
If Trump's action during that phone call stand, especially now that we know he used US tax payer money (employed by the Congress) as a carrot to have a presidential opponent investigated by a foreign government (and thus a foreign intelligence service), then we need to make it clear that presidential election law does allow the use of foreign countries to be used to interfere in our elections; By the incumbent, and maybe anyone else wanting to run.
Let the red team write this one up. Lets go ahead and do it.
Seriously worried THIS impeachment is a trivial game for fun just to pick at an idiotic power hungry leader.
Chris
01-20-2020, 01:23 AM
https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1219079346519826432?s=19
spurraider21
01-20-2020, 01:28 AM
Give them hunter and joe, who cares. even if they are corrupt as sin it has no bearing on trumps misuse of his office for personal gain
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 09:33 AM
‘Wrong about the law, wrong about history’:
CNN’s Berman levels Dershowitz for bogus Trump defense
“Alan Dershowitz is wrong,” he began.
“Professor Dershowitz is wrong about the law and
wrong about the history here.
Presidents have been impeached and tried for things that are not crimes.
Judges have been impeached and tried for things that are not crimes,
including drunkenness, by the way, which is not a crime.”
“And not only does Alan Dershowitz — and we played that [clip] — disagree with Alan Dershowitz, but so does Alexander Hamilton,” he continued.
“This is what he wrote in the Federalist Papers Number 65. He goes:
‘Those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men or in other words the abuse or violation of some public trust.'”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/wrong-about-the-law-wrong-about-history-cnns-berman-levels-dershowitz-for-bogus-trump-defense/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3521
rightwingnutjobs textualists / originalists don't care when originalism doesn't suit their politics, eg, that ugly run Scalia.
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 09:40 AM
Trump’s new lawyers are a ‘big middle finger’ to America
Joe Scarborough can’t believe President Donald Trump hired a billionaire sex predator’s attorneys to represent him in the impeachment trial.
The “Morning Joe” host can’t think of another president that would hire Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr to defend him in the Senate, and he can’t believe
those two attorneys are taking the opposite stance on impeachment than they did more than 20 years ago.
a president who has such trouble finding legal representation
that he actually got the
legal team that helped put together the plea deal and helped represent Jeffrey Epstein,
one of the most disgraced figures in modern American popular culture,”
“It’s a group composed in order to make a statement, and
the statement is one of unswerving loyalty in public to the president,
no matter how awful the circumstances, and the statement is also
a big middle finger stuck up to people who care about #MeToo issues.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-new-lawyers-are-a-big-middle-finger-to-america-msnbc-morning-joe-panel/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3521 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-new-lawyers-are-a-big-middle-finger-to-america-msnbc-morning-joe-panel/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3521)
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 09:41 AM
‘Comparing yourself to terrorists?’
Internet cracks up at Trump saying dead 9-11 hijackers got more justice than him
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/comparing-yourself-to-terrorists-internet-cracks-up-at-trump-saying-dead-9-11-hijackers-got-more-justice-than-him/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3521 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/comparing-yourself-to-terrorists-internet-cracks-up-at-trump-saying-dead-9-11-hijackers-got-more-justice-than-him/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3521)
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 09:50 AM
Mitch McConnell considering ‘kill switch’ that
allows him to pull plug on Trump impeachment at any time
According to a report at Fox News
a “kill switch” rule that would allow him to dismiss the articles of impeachment in the Senate against Donald Trump quickly after a minimum of evidence has been presented.
McConnell is keeping the whatever rules the Senate will have to abide by secret from te Democrats :lol Russian show trial! :lol
the resolution will give the president’s team the option to either move to judgment or to move to dismiss at a meaningful time.”
trial will become endless circus run by Adam Schiff.” :lol talking point from orchestrated script! :lol
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 09:58 AM
He ‘has receipts’:
Reporter breaks down why ‘honest’ White House officials are concerned about Lev Parnas
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Donald-Trump-and-Lev-Parnas.png
claimed “Trump knew exactly everything that was going on that Rudy Giuliani was doing in Ukraine.”
there’s “a recognition among sources who are being honest that even if [Parnas is] not an official witness, he’s already impacting this trial.”
“Unless senators are completely tuned out,
they are absorbing what he is saying and they are seeing what he is dropping in these document dumps,”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/he-has-receipts-reporter-breaks-down-why-honest-white-house-officials-are-concerned-about-lev-parnas/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3521 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/he-has-receipts-reporter-breaks-down-why-honest-white-house-officials-are-concerned-about-lev-parnas/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3521)
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 10:07 AM
Trump’s Defense Brief Is So Weak He Likely Dictated Parts Himself, John Dean Suspects
“It’s of that vernacular,” said Richard Nixon’s former White House counsel. “It’s not legally sophisticated. It obviously plays to the base.”
John Dean (https://www.huffpost.com/topic/john-dean) criticized the initial brief laying out Donald Trump (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump)’s impeachment defense as
an unconvincing “scorched earth” strategy that lawyers in the Senate aren’t likely to buy.
speculated that parts of it may have been “dictated” by Trump himself.
“I think it’s actually going to insult some of the lawyers in the Senate.
If their more detailed brief is of the same tone, they’re making a serious mistake,” Dean said.
“Lawyers are not going to buy into this.
Most members of the Senate, both parties, are lawyers.” :lol
Dean also accused the legal team of cherry-picking particular details and distorting facts in the brief.
The “scheme” to pressure Ukraine to announce an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden, which would have politically benefited Trump,
“wasn’t just two phone calls”
to Ukraine’s president, as the brief claims, Dean noted.
“Any news person, any person following the news, would know it’s been going on for months, involving multiple people,”
added Dean, who called the operation a “shakedown.”
(https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-dean-donald-trump-impeachment-unsophisticated_n_5e2501b8c5b632117615d4b2?ncid=ne wsltushpmgnews&guccounter=1)https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-dean-donald-trump-impeachment-unsophisticated_n_5e2501b8c5b632117615d4b2?ncid=ne wsltushpmgnews&guccounter=1
Repug Senators are lawyers? Fuck lawyers, they'll do any "lawyering" that they are paid to do.
LkrFan
01-20-2020, 03:25 PM
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1219353713917267968?s=19
:lol
Spurs Homer
01-20-2020, 05:21 PM
Parnas attorney asking for Barr’s recusal-
i really hope parnas and his attorney have documents/evidence to bury Barr
otherwise parnas is fucked and barr will destroy the evidence at the SDNY
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 05:36 PM
Legal experts compare Trump lawyers’ impeachment brief to the ‘scream of a wounded animal’
. Legal experts Benjamin Wittes and Quinta Jurecic, ... assert that there is an enormous difference between the two:
while the House brief is professionally organized,
the one from Team Trump is a rambling mess that reads like “the scream of a wounded animal.”
“It starts with the law,
the nature and purposes of Congress’ impeachment power,
then walks through the evidence regarding the first article of impeachment,
which alleges abuse of power, and
seeks to show how the evidence establishes the House’s claim that President Trump is guilty of this offense.
It then proceeds to argue that the offense requires his removal from office.”
filed by the president’s personal lawyer Jay Sekulow and the White House Counsel Pat Cipollone,
does not read like a traditional legal argument at all,”
“It begins with a series of rhetorical flourishes — all of them, to one degree or another, false.
The articles of impeachment are ‘a dangerous attack on the right of the American people to freely choose their president,’
as though the impeachment power were not a constitutional reality
every bit as enshrined in the founding document as the quadrennial election of the president.”
​the Trumpian brief “reads like one of the president’s speeches at his campaign rallies. The language is a little more lawyerly, if only a little.
Trump’s cries of ‘witch hunt!’ have turned into
‘lawless process that violated basic due process and fundamental fairness.’
His allegations that Democrats are a ‘disgrace’ have turned into ‘an affront to the Constitution.’
And Trump’s insistence that there’s a plot to destroy his presidency has become a ‘highly partisan and reckless obsession with impeaching the president (that) began the day he was inaugurated and continues to this day.’
But the message is unchanged. It’s not a legal argument. It’s a howl of rage.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/legal-experts-compare-trump-lawyers-impeachment-brief-to-the-scream-of-a-wounded-animal/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3532&recip_id=298460&list_id=1
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 05:52 PM
Trump White House would ‘block any attempt to include testimony from Lev Parnas’ in Senate trial
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-white-house-would-block-any-attempt-to-include-testimony-from-lev-parnas-in-senate-trial-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3532 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-white-house-would-block-any-attempt-to-include-testimony-from-lev-parnas-in-senate-trial-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3532)
Parnas is a govt employee?
The defendant can block hostile witnesses?
This shit needs resolution by SCOTUS
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 06:13 PM
In the strong Repug tradition of incomprehensible word salad originated with Sarah Palin, and continued by Trash
Let's Play A Quick Round Of 'WTF Is Kellyanne Conway Saying Here?'
She said: (https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1219311527213268992)
Well, I can tell you the president is preparing for Davos and
agrees with many of the things that Dr. Martin Luther King stood for, :lol Trash is a racist, ask any black Congressperson.
and agreed with for many years — including unity and equality, and
he's not the one trying to tear the country apart through an impeachment process and
a lack of substance that really is very shameful at this point.
I've held my opinion on it for a very long time,
but when you see the articles of impeachment that came out,
I don't think it was Dr. King's vision :lol to have Americans dragged through a process :lol
where the president is not going to be removed from office,
is not being charged with bribery, extortion, high crimes and misdemeanors.
And I think that anybody who cares about "and justice for all" on today or any day of the year :lol
will appreciate the fact that the president will have a full throttle defense on the facts :lol
and everybody should have that.
I this morning was reading some lesser-known passages by Dr. King :lol
and I appreciate the fact that we as a nation respect him by giving him his own day,
and I'm happy to share a birthday with him. :lol
https://www.wonkette.com/lets-play-a-quick-round-of-wtf-is-kellyanne-conway-saying-here (https://www.wonkette.com/lets-play-a-quick-round-of-wtf-is-kellyanne-conway-saying-here)
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 06:25 PM
Kellyanne Conway Threatens ‘Reciprocity’
if Democrats Push For Trump Trial Witnesses:
‘Be Careful What You Wish For’ :lol
Kellyanne Conway responded ... to the possibility of Senate Democrats (and several Republicans) defying President Donald Trump :lol
and calling upon witnesses to testify over the impeachment articles.
Conway warned of “reciprocity” against any Democratic senators who call for witnesses.
“The president was denied witnesses in the house proceeding. :lol LIE Trash rejected the Dems invitation to participate
If the Democrats really want to go down that road and have witnesses,
then we’re going to have reciprocity, in those witnesses, I dare them,”
“Witness number one would have to be Hunter Biden.
How else would he know about the corruption in Ukraine?
Do you know people have tripping over themselves for the last six months or so, including in the mainstream media, saying there’s no evidence Hunter Biden did anything wrong?
He should willingly come and testify.”
would that mean for the White House to have John Bolton testify?”
“Very little.
The president may exert executive privilege. :lol why would Trash gag Bolton? :lol
The House should have called John Bolton if they were so anxious to hear from him.”
“they failed to make a case, :lol
Conway concluded the interview by blasting the impeachment now in the Senate as an “abuse of the constitution.” :lol
https://www.mediaite.com/news/kellyanne-conway-threatens-reciprocity-if-democrats-push-for-trump-trial-witnesses-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/ (https://www.mediaite.com/news/kellyanne-conway-threatens-reciprocity-if-democrats-push-for-trump-trial-witnesses-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/)
Does "alternative facts" KAC typify the lawyers from Trinity Washington U and Geo Washington U?
ChumpDumper
01-20-2020, 06:29 PM
Trump White House would ‘block any attempt to include testimony from Lev Parnas’ in Senate trial
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-white-house-would-block-any-attempt-to-include-testimony-from-lev-parnas-in-senate-trial-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3532 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-white-house-would-block-any-attempt-to-include-testimony-from-lev-parnas-in-senate-trial-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3532)
Parnas is a govt employee?
The defendant can block hostile witnesses?
This shit needs resolution by SCOTUS
1219353713917267968
boutons_deux
01-20-2020, 06:45 PM
Alan Dershowitz Walks Back Notion President Can’t Be Impeached Unless He’s Committed Crime
https://am12.akamaized.net/med/cnt/uploads/2020/01/Dershowitz-1200x675.jpg
“There is no inconsistency between what I said during the Clinton impeachment and what I am saying now,” he declared.
“I said then that there doesn’t have to be a ‘technical’ crime.
I have said now there must be ‘criminal-like’ conduct, :lol
or conduct ‘akin to treason and bribery.'” :lol
Renato Mariotti commenting,
“This argument is silly and ahistorical, but even if it were true, there is obviously conduct ‘akin to’ bribery in this case.”
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/alan-dershowitz-walks-back-notion-president-cant-be-impeached-unless-hes-committed-crime/ (https://www.mediaite.com/politics/alan-dershowitz-walks-back-notion-president-cant-be-impeached-unless-hes-committed-crime/)
Trash brings out The Best in His Very Best People
Chris
01-21-2020, 05:51 AM
https://twitter.com/RepRatcliffe/status/1219437279401390081?s=19
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 07:48 AM
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Doug Collins, :lol
Mark Meadows, :lol
Jim Jordan, :lol and
More Joining Trump Defense Team
the following Republican congress members will be on the legal team:
Jim Jordan
Doug Collins
Debbie Lesko
Mark Meadows
John Ratcliffe
Elise Stefanik
Lee Zeldin
Mike Johnson
https://www.mediaite.com/news/doug-collins-mark-meadows-jim-jordan-and-more-joining-trump-defense-team/ (https://www.mediaite.com/news/doug-collins-mark-meadows-jim-jordan-and-more-joining-trump-defense-team/)
These gutless, dickless, spineless lying asshole sycophants made for hilarious, ridiculous no-DEFENSE TeeVee in the House,
but has anybody told Trash that Fox won't have a feed? c-span and PBS only, afaics
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 07:56 AM
Moscow's Little Bitch McConnell said "Clinton impeachment rules" would apply, but THAT WAS A LIE
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOwwtVQX0AAZrCC.jpg:large
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 08:44 AM
Trump’s poll numbers have tanked in the last month —
and even his supporters agree he broke the law
51 percent of Americans support removing Trump from office,
It’s a shocking number that even President Bill Clinton didn’t have to contend with when he was impeached.
At no time did Clinton drop below 50 percent favorability during his impeachment trial.
After it was over, Clinton topped 73 percent approval. :lol
“Net support for removing Trump from office is up 8 points since mid-December,”
even Republicans and Trump’s supporters agree
what the president did was wrong and
he likely is guilty of the crimes he’s accused.
On the first article, whether Trump abused the power of his office, 58 percent agreed he’s guilty (41 percent disagree).
On the second article, whether Trump obstructed justice, 57 percent believe Trump is guilty (39 percent disagree).
a massive 74 percent of Americans said they were paying attention to the impeachment trial.
Americans also don’t like the way Republicans are handling the impeachment, to the tune of 54 percent. Only 39 percent approve.
A whopping 67 percent of people polled said that Russia is either a very serious or moderately serious threat.
Only 14 percent of people said that Russia isn’t a threat at all, meaning even Republicans agree Russia is a threat to the United States.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-poll-numbers-have-tanked-in-the-last-month-and-even-his-supporters-agree-he-broke-the-law-report/
To paraphrase, criminal Repug Tricky Dick Nixon, the only President ever to resign in disgrace (naturally a Repug):
"Congressional Repugs don't do the popular thing, they do the wrong thing"
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 09:01 AM
McConnell frantic Trump will do something to derail speedy impeachment trial before another bombshell hits
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (https://www.thedailybeast.com/mcconnell-impeach-plan-run-like-hell-pray-for-no-surprises) (R-KY) has
multiple reasons for hoping to get the impeachment trial of Donald Trump over with as quickly as possible,
including the fear that more bombshells are about to drop or
the president may stick his nose in the proceedings and disrupt the whole process.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mcconnell-frantic-trump-will-do-something-to-derail-speedy-impeachment-trial-before-another-bombshell-hits-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3534 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mcconnell-frantic-trump-will-do-something-to-derail-speedy-impeachment-trial-before-another-bombshell-hits-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3534)
Moscow's Little Bitch McConnell has shutdown communications from Senators, but surely Trash will be tweeting 100s times / day and nights
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 09:05 AM
Rudy Giuliani throws Lev Parnas under the bus:
‘I was misled by him’ :lol
Rudy Giuliani distanced himself on Fox News from his indicted associate Lev Parnas.
Parnas has claimed in recent interviews that he helped Giuliani carry out a pressure campaign against Ukraine,
but President Donald Trump’s personal attorney tried to put daylight between himself and his former henchman, reported Axios (https://www.axios.com/rudy-giuliani-lev-parnas-interview-116eb140-d5ad-406d-8439-973e39742c4d.html).
“Lev is someone I’m — I was close to,” :lol Giuliani told “The Ingraham Angle.”
“Obviously, I was misled by him. :lol
I feel very bad. :lol :lol awww, sniff, sniff, hard-ass Julie Annie has a heart? :lol
I was godfather to his child and spent a lot of time :lol
… I still feel sorry for him.” :lol
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rudy-giuliani-throws-lev-parnas-under-the-bus-i-was-misled-by-him/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3534
With Trash's mafiya, there is "no honor among thieves"
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 09:30 AM
Christian fanatics, TV showboats and corrupt clowns:
Donald Trump’s defense team is amazing —
but not in a good way
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/goons.jpg
most of us who could see how he might seduce the
faction of the country that had been primed for a demagogue like him over the past several decades
also overestimated the patriotism of Republican officials,
many of whom made it clear in the beginning that they knew what he was and
have since rolled over for him like trained poodles.
That phenomenon is what will determine the eventual outcome of the trial we are about to witness.
We have an incompetent and corrupt president,
who has clearly committed multiple cases of abuse of power,
being protected by his party —
which is openly engaged in a cover-up of his high crimes.
Leading Republicans are no longer even trying to pretend they are statesmen (or women).
It is just an exercise of pure partisan resistance to any and all accountability for their leader.
​McConnell has manipulated the trial procedures to be as opaque and hurried as possible.
His rules for the media, and his demands that
much of the trial be presented in the dead of night,
are nothing more than an attempt to cover up the proceedings as much as possible.
Republican voters will be shielded from the truth by Fox News and other right-wing media.
what kind of lawyers would take a case like this? It appears that it isn’t top conservative legal talent. :lol
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/christian-fanatics-tv-showboats-and-corrupt-clowns-donald-trumps-defense-team-is-amazing-but-not-in-a-good-way/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3534 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/christian-fanatics-tv-showboats-and-corrupt-clowns-donald-trumps-defense-team-is-amazing-but-not-in-a-good-way/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3534)
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 12:00 PM
Mueller report = cover up was successful
Senate Impeachment Trial = Cover up in progress
2016 Elections = stolen by trump team with russia’s interference
2020 Election = cheating/foreign interference & GOP cover ups will hand trump another 4 years
who cares?
not enough americans
we will get the govt we deserve
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 12:11 PM
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ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 12:25 PM
So, dismissal after opening arguments?
:lol scared Republicans
benefactor
01-21-2020, 12:54 PM
Why would you clamor for dismissal of a case you know you are going to win?
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 12:59 PM
Why would you clamor for dismissal of a case you know you are going to win?
because :
How Donald Trump’s Unlikely Legal Team Will Try to Defend Him
At some level, Donald Trump’s defenders must know that his conduct is impeachable.
That’s why the President has taken every opportunity to block the facts from coming out.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/how-donald-trumps-legal-team-will-try-to-defend-him-at-the-senate-impeachment-trial?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenewsle tter_Daily_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_012120&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Daily
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 01:07 PM
The Ukraine story isn't going to ever get better for Dennison. It sucks having to kick the can TSA-style but we all knew nothing would happen in the senate. The only thing to watch for is a crack in the red wall.
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 01:33 PM
...
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 01:44 PM
The Ukraine story isn't going to ever get better for Dennison. It sucks having to kick the can TSA-style but we all knew nothing would happen in the senate. The only thing to watch for is a crack in the red wall.
Parnas has flipped, but what about Fruman? He may have more tales to tell and/or corroborate Parnas.
Adam Schiff dismantling the GOP talking points about it been too late for witnesses. Doubt cocaine Mitch cares about it but :lol not allowing any witnesses.
MultiTroll
01-21-2020, 02:18 PM
The only thing to watch for is a crack in the red wall.
https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2017/10-25/NW83STGz6N-12.png
Come inside once in a while Rumpy.
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 02:25 PM
https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2017/10-25/NW83STGz6N-12.png
Come inside once in a while Rumpy.?
Trump's team: BUT THE MUELLER REPORT! RUSSIA!
:lol They already lost. This is an entirely different case involving a different instance in where Trumpy tried to influence another foreign leader. BUT HEY MUELLER!
I tune in to watch the impeachment trial of Donald Trump and ended up watching the impeachment of house member Adam Schiff.
Trump lawyers to start defending Trump any minute now...
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 02:50 PM
Schiff killed it.
then we saw two emo whiney GOP cult tantrums
how stupid or how compromised $$$ are senators?
Adam Schiff dismantling the GOP talking points about it been too late for witnesses. Doubt cocaine Mitch cares about it but :lol not allowing any witnesses.
How many witnesses did the house let Republicans call?
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 02:52 PM
Moscow mitch calling for a 15 min break to remind his complicit russian senators of just how much $$ they took in bribes!
How many witnesses did the house let Republicans call?
I dont know at least 3 or 4? How many has Mitch allowed so far?
I dont know at least 3 or 4? How many has Mitch allowed so far?
Mitch has allowed the same number Schiff allowed Republicans to call.
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 03:08 PM
Mitch has allowed the same number Schiff allowed Republicans to call.
Comrade TSA approves of the “moscow mitch russian show trial”
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 03:09 PM
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boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 03:10 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/82813768_842229442868816_3573012233032040448_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ohc=BxvhbfKMULYAX-DB132&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=61c1c741edefd03f6172e6afc3bc0b5c&oe=5E917DF1
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 03:13 PM
How many witnesses did the house let Republicans call?
Repug even wanted to call witnesses? Evidence?
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 03:14 PM
Midnight mitch
moscow mitch
GOP ( Govt of Russia)
lol
How many witnesses did the house let Republicans call?
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) “has already announced the predetermined result,” the official said. “They will not give us the ability to call any witnesses.”
Nadler criticized Cipollone’s response.
“We gave President Trump a fair opportunity to question witnesses and present his own to address the overwhelming evidence before us,” he said in a statement. “After listening to him complain about the impeachment process, we had hoped that he might accept our invitation.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/06/bfe7e3a0-1852-11ea-bf81-ebe89f477d1e_story.html
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 03:17 PM
Cippollini
crappolini
whatever his name representing trump
lied on the floor in front of chief roberts
at least 4 times
(trump not allowed witnesses, repubs not allowed in hearings, schiff met with whistleblower, trump protecting constitution)
probably a few more that i missed
:lol TSA automatically taking Ls.
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 03:20 PM
Repug even wanted to call witnesses? Evidence?
"Republicans requested, including Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, and
witnesses related to unfounded GOP-claims of Ukrainian interference during the 2016 election."
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/473679-nadler-dismisses-gop-witness-requests (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/473679-nadler-dismisses-gop-witness-requests)
:lol Repug witnesses to prove Bidens are corrupt and Ukraine hacked USA? :lol
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 03:21 PM
Schiff destroying the incompetent russian team
lordy!
:lol TSA why isn't Republican's House witness not in the senate trial as their witness again?
:lol Schiff shitting on your hat again.
pgardn
01-21-2020, 03:24 PM
How many witnesses did the house let Republicans call?
They declined to call witnesses.
Its tough when you must be questioned by the other team, especially about the actual subject at hand.
Impeachment of OUR STANDING PRESIDENT. All the red team wants to do is talk about Biden’s son. Could you make that a different proceeding? It’s gonna be tough with no evidence.
The wup ass being given to the red team is obvious.
So it will be cool in 2020 during re election when the red team has to explain their thinking after acquittal.
Which is what this is about since the orange monster scares them at present.
Im gonna love the back pedaling.
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 03:26 PM
Boom!
schiff refraining from calling crappolini a liar
but everyone in the room knows!
Schiff destroying the incompetent russian team
lordy!
It's obviously not a fair fight. Trump's team is made up of conspiracy theorists.
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 03:30 PM
Trump screeches ‘READ THE TRANSCRIPT’ amid Schiff’s opening statement — and it quickly backfires
Brian Tyler Cohen
✔@briantylercohen
(https://twitter.com/briantylercohen)Replying to realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/_/status/1219698190129225728)
We did. Hence the impeachment.
Jeff Lewis@ChicagoPhotoSho
(https://twitter.com/ChicagoPhotoSho)Replying to realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/_/status/1219698190129225728)
"I want you to do us a favor though"
Jennifer Rubin
(https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger)✔@JRubinBlogger
(https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger)Replying to realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/_/status/1219698190129225728)
the one where you mention Burisma and the Bidens but not corruption?
Yes, I read that one.
The one where you linked investigation to aid ("I would like you to do us a favor though")?
Yup, read it.
ml8_ml8@ml8_ml8
(https://twitter.com/ml8_ml8)Replying to realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/_/status/1219698190129225728)
WE DID! YOU ASKED FOR A PERSONAL FAVOR IN EXCHANGE FOR AN OFFICIAL ACT. PLEASE RESIGN!
Todd Awesome@ToddJAwesome
(https://twitter.com/ToddJAwesome)Replying to realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/_/status/1219698190129225728)
Don’t mind me.
I’m just here waiting for trump to actually release the transcripts.
All he has released was a call summary.
And even that summary was enough to impeach him.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-screeches-read-transcript-amid-schiffs-opening-statement-and-it-quickly-backfires/
goddamn, Trash is FUCKING STUPID
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 03:32 PM
It's obviously not a fair fight. Trump's team is made up of conspiracy theorists.
how many senators give a fuck that “their team” or “red team” lawyer lied in their house in front of the world?
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 03:33 PM
https://media.tenor.com/images/4a599fb6619afce348bc34dee7084ce5/tenor.gif https://media1.tenor.com/images/0f65a6f2eccf366f1b38f40b8c024457/tenor.gif?itemid=13704166
Its about numbers, not arguments. Its not a debate team comp.
:lol TSA why isn't Republican's House witness not in the senate trial as their witness again?
:lol Schiff shitting on your hat again.
Wut
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 03:39 PM
Defending
Muh
Cheetoe
reporting for semen-shield duty sir! :lol:lol:lol:lol
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/06/bfe7e3a0-1852-11ea-bf81-ebe89f477d1e_story.html
The GOP requested witnesses, how many did the house allow?
Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 03:42 PM
This Lofgren woman is a huge mistake by pelosi
get her the fuck out - all she is doing is basically repeating schiffs slam dunk
why?
It's obviously not a fair fight. Trump's team is made up of conspiracy theorists.
Schiff was the lead pusher of the biggest debunked conspiracy theory the country has ever seen :lmao
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 03:45 PM
Schiff was the lead pusher of the biggest debunked conspiracy theory the country has ever seen :lmao
which is?
The GOP requested witnesses, how many did the house allow?
As many as Trump didn't call?
I tried looking, but couldn't find any articles on GOP members of the intelligence or judiciary committees wanting to subpoena witnesses. Maybe you could pass along?
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 03:55 PM
How many witnesses did the house let Republicans call?Which witnesses did the House Republicans want to call?
Hunter Biden?
Adam Schiff?
Give us the list.
Chris
01-21-2020, 03:56 PM
The GOP requested witnesses, how many did the house allow?
They squirmin like vermin on this one :lol
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:01 PM
The GOP requested witnesses, how many did the house allow?They wanted a Chalupa.:lmao
As many as Trump didn't call?
I tried looking, but couldn't find any articles on GOP members of the intelligence or judiciary committees wanting to subpoena witnesses. Maybe you could pass along?
You can drop the Trump straw man as this has been about the house and senate getting their witnesses.
https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rm_letter_to_chm_re_witness_request.pdf
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:08 PM
You can drop the Trump straw man as this has been about the house and senate getting their witnesses.
https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rm_letter_to_chm_re_witness_request.pdf:rollinChal uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupa:rollin
Why don't they order a Chalupa now, TSA?
they can call whomever they want.
thispego
01-21-2020, 04:10 PM
Cippollini
crappolini
whatever his name representing trump
lied on the floor in front of chief roberts
at least 4 times
(trump not allowed witnesses, repubs not allowed in hearings, schiff met with whistleblower, trump protecting constitution)
probably a few more that i missed
Prove that all of these are lies
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:11 PM
Prove that all of these are liesYou didn't see the Republicans in the hearings?
Low information.
thispego
01-21-2020, 04:15 PM
You didn't see the Republicans in the hearings?
Low information.
You got proof that Schiff didn’t meet with the whistleblower?
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:17 PM
You got proof that Schiff didn’t meet with the whistleblower?Do you have proof he did?
Demanding someone prove a negative is extremely low information.
Let's see your proof he did.
thispego
01-21-2020, 04:20 PM
Do you have proof he did?
Demanding someone prove a negative is extremely low information.
Let's see your proof he did.
Isn’t that what Dems have been doing to trump for 3 years? :lol
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 04:26 PM
Mitch McConnell ‘backed down’ on trial rules because he’s losing control of the Senate
Chris Wallace observed on Tuesday that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) had been
forced to “back down” on impeachment trial rules that critics said were designed to cover up offenses committed by President Donald Trump.
In a surprise move Tuesday afternoon, McConnell made changes (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mitch-mcconnell-blinks-and-dials-back-senate-rules-on-excluding-evidence-and-midnight-hearings/) to two of the most controversial aspects of his trial rules.
Evidence will now be automatically entered into the record (unless a senator objects).
The new rules also gives House impeachment managers an extra day to make their opening remarks.
“Because, clearly, there were four Republicans senators — at least four — who were concerned about it, who said,
‘Why do we have to rush? Why do we have to do this until 1 in the morning. It makes us look bad.'”
because… there were at least four Republican senators who said, ‘Let’s soften this a little bit.'”
it could be a sign that senators are open to having witnesses in the trial.
“It does indicate that the whole question of witnesses is more up for grabs than many of us thought,”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/chris-wallace-mitch-mcconnell-backed-down-on-trial-rules-because-hes-losing-control-of-the-senate/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/chris-wallace-mitch-mcconnell-backed-down-on-trial-rules-because-hes-losing-control-of-the-senate/)
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:31 PM
Isn’t that what Dems have been doing to trump for 3 years? :lolSo you have no proof.
I accept your admission.
You can drop the Trump straw man as this has been about the house and senate getting their witnesses.
https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rm_letter_to_chm_re_witness_request.pdf
Relevant people like Voelker and Hale testified. Just not on the same panel Nunes wanted. Is that what the complaint is? Or that Mr. FusionGPS wasn't called as a witnesses to derail the process?
:lolll witnesses relied upon by the whistlebl:lolwer
The GOP requested witnesses, how many did the house allow?
And, this still doesn't excuse Trump from not accepting Nadler's invitation to call his own witnesses. So what's your ultimate point here?
Relevant people like Voelker and Hale testified. Just not on the same panel Nunes wanted. Is that what the complaint is? Or that Mr. FusionGPS wasn't called as a witnesses to derail the process?
:lolll witnesses relied upon by the whistlebl:lolwer
Voelker and Hale were on the Dem list as well, that’s the only reason anyone from GOP list was called.
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:41 PM
Voelker and Hale were on the Dem list as well, that’s the only reason anyone from GOP list was called.Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalluuuuuuuuuuuupaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
And, this still doesn't excuse Trump from not accepting Nadler's invitation to call his own witnesses. So what's your ultimate point here?
it’s hilarious to watch the house managers cry about not getting witnesses in the senate trial when they shut down every witness request from the GOP during house hearings.
thispego
01-21-2020, 04:46 PM
So you have no proof.
I accept your admission.
I’m no different from the dems :depressed
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 04:47 PM
it’s hilarious to watch the house managers cry about not getting witnesses in the senate trial when they shut down every witness request from the GOP during house hearings.
Repugs asked for Hunter Biden, irrelevant
Repugs asked for assholes who push the debunked conspiracity that Ukraine hacked USA, irrelevant bullshit
Who else was denied?
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:47 PM
it’s hilarious to watch the house managers cry about not getting witnesses in the senate trial when they shut down every witness request from the GOP during house hearings.Except the two you got shoved up your ass right now.
https://www.tacobell.com/images/22850_chalupa_supreme_269x269.jpg
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:48 PM
Repugs asked for Hunter Biden, irrelevant
Repugs asked for assholes who push the debunked conspiracity Ukraine hacked USA, irrelevant bullshit
Who else was denied?https://www.tacobell.com/images/22850_chalupa_supreme_269x269.jpg
Pelosi rushed the articles through and overplayed her hand. She bungled the fuck out of this. Should have just gone to court to force Bolton etc to testify. She played games with the house process thinking she had power and now gets to face the reality that turtle has and always had all the power.
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:48 PM
I’m no different from the dems :depressedYou're trying top deflect.
Sad.
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:50 PM
Pelosi rushed the articles through and overplayed her hand. She bungled the fuck out of this. Should have just gone to court to force Bolton etc to testify. She played games with the house process thinking she had power and now gets to face the reality that turtle has and always had all the power.Nothing would've changed.
Now the electorate gets a full ten months to take in what a sham this trial is and see what Bolton, et.al., have to say.
The timing is fine.
But thanks for admitting Bolton would've fucked you.:lol
Repugs asked for Hunter Biden, irrelevant
Repugs asked for assholes who push the debunked conspiracity that Ukraine hacked USA, irrelevant bullshit
Who else was denied?
Burisma is at the center of the entire impeachment...Hunter Biden irrelevant :lol
No one claimed Ukraine hacked the election, irrelevant straw man.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 04:51 PM
Alan Dershowitz disowns his pre-Trump views on impeachment:
‘I retract it’ :lol
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/alan-dershowitz-disowns-his-pre-trump-views-on-impeachment-i-retract-it/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/alan-dershowitz-disowns-his-pre-trump-views-on-impeachment-i-retract-it/)
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:52 PM
Burisma is at the center of the entire impeachment...Hunter Biden irrelevant :lol
No one claimed Ukraine hacked the election, irrelevant straw man.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446Hunter himself is completely irrelevant aside from being the subject of the sham investigation announcement Dennison wanted.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1219731631784841222
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 04:54 PM
"In 33 years in public service I have never seen a government lawyer lie the way Cipollone did" : Ex-CIA director
Cipollone told the chamber that Republicans were barred from attending depositions of witnesses in the House.
As transcripts show, there were Republicans asking questions of the witnesses.
Even the mention of the House depositions by the White House
was pointless because Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is trying to block the documents, evidence, interviews, and depositions from being entered in as evidence in the Senate trial.
"Further evidence of the contagion of Mr. Trump’s dishonesty & corruption,” he tweeted.(Brennan)
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/in-33-years-in-public-service-i-have-never-seen-a-government-lawyer-lie-the-way-cipollone-did-ex-cia-director/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/in-33-years-in-public-service-i-have-never-seen-a-government-lawyer-lie-the-way-cipollone-did-ex-cia-director/)
ChumpDumper
01-21-2020, 04:55 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1219731631784841222Well, it would've been great had Dennison not obstructed congress.
:lol desperate TSA
"In 33 years in public service I have never seen a government lawyer lie the way Cipollone did" : Ex-CIA director
Cipollone told the chamber that Republicans were barred from attending depositions of witnesses in the House.
As transcripts show, there were Republicans asking questions of the witnesses.
Even the mention of the House depositions by the White House
was pointless because Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is trying to block the documents, evidence, interviews, and depositions from being entered in as evidence in the Senate trial.
"Further evidence of the contagion of Mr. Trump’s dishonesty & corruption,” he tweeted.(Brennan)
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/in-33-years-in-public-service-i-have-never-seen-a-government-lawyer-lie-the-way-cipollone-did-ex-cia-director/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/in-33-years-in-public-service-i-have-never-seen-a-government-lawyer-lie-the-way-cipollone-did-ex-cia-director/)
lied to Congress
spied on Congress
:lol Brennan
it’s hilarious to watch the house managers cry about not getting witnesses in the senate trial when they shut down every witness request from the GOP during house hearings.
Except they didn't. See above re: Voelker and Hale.
You never answered my question. Why was FusionGPS guy a relevant witness? Or literally everyone the Whistleblower talked to?
There's gotta be legitimacy to the ask before we start crying foul about being precluded from having the witness testify.
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 05:16 PM
Cipollone lies, but you have no :lol at him.
Trash obstructed, obstructs Mueller. Why?
Trash obstructed, obstructs impeachment. Why?
boutons_deux
01-21-2020, 05:20 PM
Dershowitz Argument that Trump Could Let Putin Take Alaska Shows Up in House Brief
https://am21.akamaized.net/lc/cnt/uploads/2018/07/TrumpPutin-e1543588737619.jpg
At least one individual involved in President Donald Trump’s defense
thinks he can’t be impeached—even if he were to intentionally allow foreign armies to conquer and steal U.S. territory?
The shocking claim was made by Harvard Law Professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz in his recent book, The Case Against Impeaching Trump.
“Assume [Vladimir] Putin decides to ‘retake’ Alaska, the way he ‘retook’ Crimea,”
Dershowitz writes on pages 26 and 27 of his book.
“Assume further that a president allows him to do it,
because he believed that Russia has a legitimate claim to ‘its’ original territory.
That would be terrible, :lol
but would it be impeachable?
Not under the text of the Constitution.”
https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/dershowitz-argument-that-trump-could-let-putin-take-alaska-shows-up-in-house-brief/ (https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/dershowitz-argument-that-trump-could-let-putin-take-alaska-shows-up-in-house-brief/)
Chris
01-21-2020, 05:30 PM
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Spurs Homer
01-21-2020, 06:03 PM
Repukes fall right in line and vote like the Cult Sheeple they are-
this is the GOP SENATE
does anyone still dispute that the entire right wing of Amerikkka is NOT a CULT?
just acquit him already
the zombies are 100% gone.
Except they didn't. See above re: Voelker and Hale.
You never answered my question. Why was FusionGPS guy a relevant witness? Or literally everyone the Whistleblower talked to?
There's gotta be legitimacy to the ask before we start crying foul about being precluded from having the witness testify.
Volker and Hale were on the Dem witness list. Not a single witness republicans wanted to call that was not on the Dem list was allowed.
The link I provided from house permanent select committee already answered your question.
Volker and Hale were on the Dem witness list. Not a single witness republicans wanted to call that was not on the Dem list was allowed.
The link I provided from house permanent select committee already answered your question.
If I sue a Apple for breaching their contract to provide me with 1000 iPhones, do you think I get discovery on the new devices they're developing?
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