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boutons_deux
01-06-2020, 07:20 PM
So what? Just because he didn't want to be a part of our Dear Leader's drug deal doesn't mean he'll go against him to give the Democrats a soundbite to run on. Especially not after our Dear Leader has us at the brink of a war with Iran that Bolton has always wanted. I wouldn't trust Bolton any more than I would Uday or Stephen Miller on the stand.
It sounds like Bolton is no fan of Trash (he quit rather than work for him) so I expect Trash killing Salamander pushed Bolton over any hurdles he had earlier about talking.
from a NYT email
"Mr. Bolton’s lawyer said in November that Mr.
Bolton knew about “many relevant meetings and conversations” connected to the Ukraine (https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/YIoFyYE4LXCjdxDDEwLNiA~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRf9lM0P0TraHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vMjAxOS 8xMS8yNi91cy9wb2xpdGljcy9ib2x0b24tdGVzdGltb255Lmh0 bWw_dGU9MSZubD1pbXBlYWNobWVudC1icmllZmluZyZlbWM9ZW RpdF9pYl8yMDIwMDEwNz9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD0xNDAmaW5zdGFu Y2VfaWQ9MTQ5OTkmc2VnbWVudF9pZD0yMDEwMSZ1c2VyX2lkPT k5MmQ2MDgyMTRiNTA1MDAzYWEwNGJmMTBhNTk1MDMxJnJlZ2lf aWQ9ODA4MjE3OTcyMDIwMDEwN1cDbnl0QgoAKTTOE16Ugw4OUh NkYXJub2NuZWxAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAA) matter
that had not been shared with impeachment investigators.
Witnesses testified that Mr. Bolton, who left the White House unceremoniously in September, was deeply troubled by the campaign to get Ukraine to investigate Democrats."
baseline bum
01-06-2020, 07:48 PM
Witnesses testified that Mr. Bolton, who left the White House unceremoniously in September, was deeply troubled by the campaign to get Ukraine to investigate Democrats."
Which is why he quit. He's still a Republican and it's always party over everything when you're one, so he's not going to do shit to hurt the GOP.
LkrFan
01-06-2020, 07:53 PM
This one goes out to my man Chris. Can you answer this?
https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1213836838181449730?s=19
boutons_deux
01-06-2020, 08:09 PM
Which is why he quit. He's still a Republican and it's always party over everything when you're one, so he's not going to do shit to hurt the GOP.
yes, testifying against Trash would terminate Bolton's career as a Repug bureaucratic operative and Fox contributor,
but maybe at age 71, he figures taking down Trash is a great swan song.
baseline bum
01-06-2020, 08:15 PM
yes, testifying against Trash would terminate Bolton's career as a Repug bureaucratic operative and Fox contributor,
but maybe at age 71, he figures taking down Trash is a great swan song.
Sounds like wishful thinking. Why would such a scumbag give a shit now?
boutons_deux
01-06-2020, 08:19 PM
GOP senator abandons McConnell on Bolton testimony:
‘I’d like to hear what he has to say’
“He has first-hand information,” Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) acknowledged on Monday during a Bloomberg News interview (https://news.yahoo.com/bolton-testify-under-senate-subpoena-170206260.html).
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/gop-senator-abandons-mcconnell-on-bolton-testimony-id-like-to-hear-what-he-has-to-say/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/gop-senator-abandons-mcconnell-on-bolton-testimony-id-like-to-hear-what-he-has-to-say/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)
Spurs Homer
01-06-2020, 08:20 PM
Your party - doesn't know - whether to shit - or go blind
you defend a traitor
you believe the biggest liar on the planet
only a complete gullible idiot believes someone who has lied to their face 15000 times
but there you are
boutons_deux
01-06-2020, 08:30 PM
Sounds like wishful thinking. Why would such a scumbag give a shit now?
I certainly "wish" Bolton would trash Trash.
You'll have to ask him why he would do that, and announce it the week after Trash assassinates Salamander.
Chris
01-06-2020, 09:20 PM
This one goes out to my man Chris. Can you answer this?
https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1213836838181449730?s=19
tl;dr
This one goes out to my man Chris. Can you answer this?
https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1213836838181449730?s=19
So Russia wanted Soleimani dead.
boutons_deux
01-06-2020, 09:46 PM
I wouldn't put it past them.
They would look awfully foolish if they declare him innocent before given the charges.
Moscow Mitch / Repugs don't care about looking foolish, they see no constraints they won't break, because they won't be punished, shamed, anything. They are detached from the disenfranchised citizenry, beholden only to BigDonor.
pgardn
01-06-2020, 09:49 PM
This one goes out to my man Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656). Can you answer this?
https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1213836838181449730?s=19
Yes.
Drop sanctions on Russian oligarchs.
Trump may have wanted to, but he did not veto the bill.
Hater, TGBY, Lkrfan are trolling
Boutons, Spurs Homer are legitimately nutjobs.
There are a few bouncing back and forth between acting like the nutjobs and acting like the trolls.
Chris
01-06-2020, 10:44 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1214381351190892544?s=19
lol
Chris
01-06-2020, 11:28 PM
https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1214396291347865600?s=19
lol
ChumpDumper
01-06-2020, 11:32 PM
Why don't you want any witnesses, Qhris?
They could only exonerate Trump, right?
boutons_deux
01-07-2020, 09:41 AM
MSNBC’s Morning Joe shreds Joni Ernst and Marco Rubio’s fear of John Bolton testimony
“Is that really who Iowa voted for? Do they really want to re-elect this person who said, ‘I’m going to take you to the pigs (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-joni-ernsts-ad-about-castrating-hogs-transformed-iowas-us-senate-race/2014/05/11/c02d1804-d85b-11e3-95d3-3bcd77cd4e11_story.html)?'”
Ernst said she doesn’t believe Bolton’s testimony would make any difference in the impeachment trial, and Rubio said the trial should be based only on evidence uncovered by House Democrats in testimony severely limited by the White House.
“Marco Rubio says,
‘We’re under no obligation to hear the truth.
We’re under no obligation to really — think about that.
I’m under no obligation, says an elected member of the state of Florida,
to find out the truth
behind what the national security adviser said was a drug deal.”
“Yes, this is the same White House official <Bolton> who, upon this meeting taking place,
immediately adjourned it and told everybody, ‘Go talk to the lawyers,'”
“Marco Rubio’s really saying,
‘I’m under no obligation, dude. La-la-la-la — I don’t want to hear from him,
because I might hear the truth that
I already know in my heart about Donald Trump.
That’s Marco Rubio’s position this morning.
I don’t want everybody else to hear what I know about Donald Trump, says Marco Rubio.
Is that why he was elected?”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/msnbcs-morning-joe-shreds-joni-ernst-and-marco-rubios-fear-of-john-bolton-testimony/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3397
Remember, Joni Ernst is famous as a hog castrator. A great qualification for a Senator for Iowa, who also elects Grassley and Stephen King
"Maybe something else sucks around here" -- George Carlin
Repugs have NO witnesses who can, under oath before Congress, exonerate Trash.
Spurs Homer
01-07-2020, 10:00 AM
Yes.
Drop sanctions on Russian oligarchs.
Trump may have wanted to, but he did not veto the bill.
wrong
the GOP voted to rescind the Sanctions on putins rt hand oligarch- Oleg Deripaska
that russian - immediately invested 200 million in a KENTUCKY aluminum plant -
moscow mitch made sure that vote was on the floor and the GOP overwhelmingly voted to rescind the sanctions on the guy that helped putin attack the usa
trump i am sure - received these orders from putin and he made sure moscow mitch complied
200 mil - the GOP wins- USA loses
now
in kentucky- the RUSSIANS can LEGALLY claim that because they are a LEGIT tax paying company-
they can LEGALLY - play a part in usa decisions, laws, lobbying, elections, etc....
see anything wrong with this? At all?
Spurs Homer
01-07-2020, 10:32 AM
Hater, TGBY, Lkrfan are trolling
Boutons, Spurs Homer are legitimately nutjobs.
There are a few bouncing back and forth between acting like the nutjobs and acting like the trolls.
you hang on the words of the guy who lied to your face 15000 times
you cannot be taken seriously
the biggest confirmed liar on the planet- is the guy you defend and the guy you believe in
let that sink in
spurraider21
01-07-2020, 11:15 AM
Why don't you want any witnesses, Qhris?
They could only exonerate Trump, right?
trump could literally defecate on the senate floor, say nothing further, and would still be acquitted by the senate
why would somebody who is totally innocent be so scared to testify before a senate that would never convict him anyway? :lol
Winehole23
01-07-2020, 12:04 PM
First hand evidence even worse
Winehole23
01-07-2020, 12:07 PM
Why are you crying, DMC?
Spurs Homer
01-07-2020, 12:47 PM
Remember when obama had a govt official assassinated just to distract the country from his impending impeachment trial?
remember when obama gave syria away to russia?
And half of white amerikkka defended him?
lol good times!
RandomGuy
01-09-2020, 10:23 AM
Moscow Mitch / Repugs don't care about looking foolish, they see no constraints they won't break, because they won't be punished, shamed, anything. They are detached from the disenfranchised citizenry, beholden only to BigDonor.
I wish I could disagree with you. RIP Republican principles, hello Trump Party.
RandomGuy
01-09-2020, 10:26 AM
https://external-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQAzbcVfRJ2bLm-S&w=540&h=282&url=https%3A%2F%2Foccupydemocrats.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FBOLTON-TESTIMONY-TWEET-1.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1&fallback=news_d_placeholder_publisher&_nc_hash=AQCup4Vqjkcm0FRp
Bolton gonna talk
Guess we may get to see what he has to say. He is still a shit-head, but if he is willing to speak truth to power that puts him head and shoulders above most Trump party officials.
boutons_deux
01-09-2020, 10:40 AM
I wish I could disagree with you. RIP Republican principles, hello Trump Party.
The Repugs have been pro-Trump since the VRWC corruptly got Useful Idiot St Ronnie and his gang into office.
Trash is 100% Republican, in the flow where Repugs have been for 40 years, NOT that the Repugs have been converted to Trumpolics.
ElNono
01-09-2020, 11:31 AM
Bolton is still fapping to that drone strike on the Iranian general tbh
Chris
01-09-2020, 01:20 PM
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1215301188280778767?s=19
Herr Gaetz
Winehole23
01-09-2020, 01:32 PM
Chris is all about Herrenvolk democracy
Chris
01-09-2020, 01:38 PM
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1215340222856122369?s=19
RandomGuy
01-09-2020, 02:28 PM
Twitter Qhris
Working on 6tph
pgardn
01-09-2020, 02:45 PM
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1215340222856122369?s=19
When is she going to hire her closest advisors off Of FOX? oops I mean CNN?
Never mind. only a president can hire people that have real government jobs with power.
sorry, never mind.
Chris
01-09-2020, 04:42 PM
ORANGE MAN BAD
Thanks for sharing.
Chris
01-09-2020, 04:50 PM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1215369669701488646?s=19
ChumpDumper
01-09-2020, 04:51 PM
:lol "seems"
Chris
01-09-2020, 04:57 PM
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1215367670767521794?s=19
RandomGuy
01-09-2020, 04:57 PM
:lol "coup"
boutons_deux
01-09-2020, 05:04 PM
NYC Bar Association gives Bill Barr a stunning rebuke — and
asks Congress to investigate him for bias
the Bar Association is claiming that Barr’s recent statements and actions indicate that
he may be enabling and encouraging “political partisans willing to use the levers of government to empower certain groups over others.”
also accuses Barr of
disregarding “fundamental obligations in several public statements during the past few months,” including
his duty to “act impartially,
to avoid even the appearance of partiality and impropriety, and
to avoid manifesting bias, prejudice or partisanship in the exercise of official responsibilities.”
his speech made last October at the University of Notre Dame in which
he vowed to put the Department of Justice “at the forefront” in the battles against the “forces of secularization” :lol
that he said were harming America’s traditional moral order.
“appears to be
the first time the New York bar or any comparable bar association has asked Congress to investigate a sitting attorney general.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/nyc-bar-association-gives-bill-barr-a-stunning-rebuke-and-asks-congress-to-investigate-him-for-bias/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3435
Pelosi won't do shit, like censure Barr for his blatantly LYING synopsis of Mueller report.
boutons_deux
01-10-2020, 11:59 AM
Reporter busts GOP’s Kevin McCarthy for saying he only met indicted Giuliani henchman Lev Parnas ‘one time’
McCarthy (R-CA) on Thursday tried to distance himself from Lev Parnas
1215318327998009344
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/reporter-busts-gops-kevin-mccarthy-for-saying-he-only-met-indicted-giuliani-henchman-lev-parnas-one-time/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3442
Spurs Homer
01-10-2020, 02:17 PM
Hannity issued “strict orders” last night to senate repukes;
”do NOT give this hoax/sham impeachment ANY credibility, only ONE witness- Sondland- who “already cleared dear leader”
and that is it.
not shocking that repukes will obey the opinion talk show russian propaganda host
boutons_deux
01-10-2020, 02:24 PM
Dem lawmaker drops the hammer on McConnell for co-sponsoring
bill dropping all charges against Trump
Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) called out Senate Majority Leader
Mitch McConnell (R-KY) for co-sponsoring a bill that would dismiss all charges against the president.
she continued.
“I just saw that he also signed on as a co-sponsor of [Missouri Republican] Senator Josh Hawley’s resolution to dismiss this whole thing and
I find it stunning that that is
the person who is putting together the rules for the trial,
is making the decisions,
is essentially the chief juror and
also from the very beginning saying that he’s going to violate any oath of impartiality.”
“He’s the 13th co-sponsor,” the Democratic lawmaker broke in. “He is the 13th cosponsor of the dismissal motion.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/dem-lawmaker-drops-the-hammer-on-mcconnell-for-co-sponsoring-bill-dropping-all-charges-against-trump/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3447
boutons_deux
01-11-2020, 09:45 AM
Collins Says She And Other GOPers Working On Impeachment Rules To Ensure Witnesses
she is coordinating with a “fairly small group” of Republicans, including senators and party leaders, on an agreement on impeachment trial rules that will allow witnesses to be called, (https://bangordailynews.com/2020/01/10/politics/susan-collins-working-with-small-group-of-gop-senators-to-allow-impeachment-witnesses/?amp=1)
after spending her week on Capitol Hill expressing support for Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s proposal to start the trial without an agreement guaranteeing witnesses. :lol
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/susan-collins-impeachment-working-group-witness-rules (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/susan-collins-impeachment-working-group-witness-rules)
Collins? :lol yeah, POWERFUL person, Moscow Mitch must be terrified.
Spurs Homer
01-11-2020, 11:31 AM
Collins Says She And Other GOPers Working On Impeachment Rules To Ensure Witnesses
she is coordinating with a “fairly small group” of Republicans, including senators and party leaders, on an agreement on impeachment trial rules that will allow witnesses to be called,
after spending her week on Capitol Hill expressing support for Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s proposal to start the trial without an agreement guaranteeing witnesses. :lol
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/susan-collins-impeachment-working-group-witness-rules (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/susan-collins-impeachment-working-group-witness-rules)
Collins? :lol yeah, POWERFUL person, Moscow Mitch must be terrified.
actually- this is part of the plan
after the repukes DISMISS the trial and complete their criminal cover up
Collins will go to the podium- shake her head side to side with every syllable she utters and say, “we could (shaking head) never convince a FOURTH juror to vote with us to allow witnesses and documents to be presented”
mark my words
Winehole23
01-11-2020, 12:47 PM
Hannity threarens to give out Senators' personal phone numbers if they allow witnesses in the trial.
Doxxing good now.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/hannity-appears-to-threaten-to-give-out-gop-senators-phone-numbers-if-they-allow-impeachment-witnesses
ElNono
01-11-2020, 03:40 PM
Good move by Pelosi. There was no reason to delay this any longer.
boutons_deux
01-11-2020, 04:54 PM
Roberts won't do it, but
Supreme Court can legally step in if McConnell tries to push through an unfair impeachment trial
attorney James Robenalt laid out the legal basis for the Supreme Court to step in and review the impeachment trial of Donald Trump (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-supreme-court-can-review-an-unfair-impeachment-trial/2020/01/10/00dae97c-32fa-11ea-91fd-82d4e04a3fac_story.html) if there is evidence it was not conducted properly.
Robenalt explains there is precedent for the Supreme Court to intervene.
“If Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell follows through on his desire (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/08/mcconnell-doesnt-care-if-you-criticize-his-sham-trial-trump/?tid=lk_inline_manual_1)to hold an abbreviated impeachment trial without witnesses — as many in his party would prefer — he will be testing the limits of the impeachment trial clause of the Constitution,”
there is a stronger case than many think that the Supreme Court has the power to review impeachment trials, to ensure that Senate procedures meet a basic level of fairness.”
“The only Supreme Court decision (https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/506/224/#tab-opinion-1959127) addressing the Senate impeachment trial clause is Nixon v. United States (https://www.oyez.org/cases/1992/91-740)(1993) — which has nothing to do with Richard Nixon. When Walter L. Nixon,
a federal judge in Mississippi :lol,
was impeached in 1989 and removed from office, he sued the United States, the secretary of state and the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts,
arguing that the Senate had not conducted a proper ‘trial’ as required by the Constitution.”
Byron White, Harry Blackmun and David Souter — argued that, while Nixon deserved to lose, it was possible that one day the Senate would conduct such an unfair impeachment trial that the courts would be obliged to hear a case if an aggrieved party sought a judicial remedy. That’s precisely the situation (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-manchin-trump-impeachment-trial-will-be-a-sham-without-john-boltons-testimony/) we may face today.”
As the court noted in Nixon, the Constitution lays out several indispensable elements of an impeachment trial:
The Senate ‘shall be on Oath or Affirmation’;
if it’s the president who’s on trial, ‘the Chief Justice shall preside’; and
conviction requires a two-thirds majority of the members present.
Beyond this, the terms of how the Senate tries an impeachment are left to its discretion,”
McConnell’s public pronouncements that
he plans to obstruct justice and
absolve the president before he has even been handed the articles of impeachment
opens the door for judicial review.
“McConnell has said he does not intend to be impartial (https://www.npr.org/2019/12/17/788924966/mcconnell-i-m-not-impartial-about-impeachment) ... violate his oath to ‘do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws.’
“Collectively, such actions could be seen by reasonable judges as ‘seriously threatening the integrity of the results’ — the standard [Justice David} Souter suggested should trigger judicial review.
“Since the Constitution grants the chief justice the privilege of presiding over the trial,
he ought to have — and in my view does have, under proper constitutional interpretation —
considerable power to steer the Senate toward reasonable standards
for weighing evidence and rendering judgments.
He cannot and should not be a potted plant.,”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/the-supreme-court-can-legally-step-in-if-mcconnell-tries-to-push-through-an-unfair-impeachment-trial-attorney/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
boutons_deux
01-11-2020, 05:31 PM
George Conway and Neal Katyal advise Pelosi on how to trip up McConnell’s impeachment plans
Pelosi should “split up” the articles of impeachment —
submitting the article of obstruction of Congress,
but holding onto the article of abuse of power for further investigation.
“Separating the two articles — our preferred approach — would make perfect sense,” they wrote.
“When it comes to the second article, all the evidence about Trump’s obstruction is a matter of public record.
There’s nothing more to add, so the second article is ripe for trial.
But as to the first, although there is plenty of evidence demonstrating Trump’s guilt,
his obstruction has prevented all of the evidence from coming to light.”
“Since the House voted to approve the articles of impeachment last month,
new revelations of Trump’s involvement have emerged,
including emails showing that aid was ordered withheld from Ukraine 91 minutes after Trump’s supposedly ‘perfect’ phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky,” they wrote.
“Trump’s former national security adviser, John Bolton, has said he is willing to testify before the Senate if subpoenaed, and
Bolton’s lawyer has said he has new information,
“McConnell claims he is adhering to the rules in the impeachment of President Bill Clinton,” they said.
“But there’s one big difference:
Clinton didn’t gag all the witnesses and documents in the House
and the predecessor investigation;
as a result, there was a full record before the Senate.
And there were, in fact, witnesses who were deposed as part of the Senate trial nonetheless.
This time, the reason this evidence wasn’t generated in the House has everything to do with the defendant in the impeachment case itself.
That is the case for sending up the second article now, to put the spotlight on Trump’s obstructionism.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/george-conway-and-neal-katyal-advise-pelosi-on-how-to-trip-up-mcconnells-impeachment-plans/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/george-conway-and-neal-katyal-advise-pelosi-on-how-to-trip-up-mcconnells-impeachment-plans/)
boutons_deux
01-12-2020, 08:05 AM
The only, but tiny hope, is that Roberts will force a true trial, rather than allow Moscow Mitch to violate the Constitution, his oath, and insult the myth that America is a country of laws, proving that it isn't, and that Repug/oligarchy politics is out of reach of the law, with neoliberal/dickless Dems in silent complicity.
boutons_deux
01-12-2020, 01:53 PM
Trash TATOOED forever as correctly impeached so-called President,
who illegally obstructed multiple investigations of his crimes
Trump buried in scorn for self-pitying tweet that he now has ‘the stigma of Impeachment attached’ to his name
“Why should I have the stigma of Impeachment attached to my name when I did NOTHING wrong? :lol
Read the Transcripts! :lol He won't release it :lol
A totally partisan Hoax, never happened before.
House Republicans voted 195-0, :lol
with three Dems voting with the Republicans.
Very unfair to tens of millions of voters!” :lol he tweeted.
< lots of hilarious, on-point rebuttal tweets > :lol
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-buried-in-scorn-for-self-pitying-tweet-that-he-now-has-the-stigma-of-impeachment-attached-to-his-name/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
boutons_deux
01-12-2020, 03:52 PM
As Trial Nears, Trump Keeps Discredited Ukraine Theory Alive
What if, the idea went, it was actually Ukraine — and not Russia — that was interfering in the 2016 election?
Never mind that the notion has since been amplified by the president of Russia,
the country that U.S. intelligence agencies unequivocally blame for interfering in that year’s presidential race.
Or that Trump’s hand-picked FBI director and other American officials have said
there’s no information pointing to Ukraine interference.
Or that 25 Russians stand charged in U.S. courts with hacking into Democratic emails and
waging a covert social media campaign to sway American public opinion.
A review by The Associated Press shows that the Ukraine conspiracy theory traces back to Trump’s 2016 campaign, was spread online and later advanced by Russian President Vladimir Putin weeks after his own country was blamed for election interference.
And as his Senate impeachment trial looms,
Trump is pressing GOP senators to rally behind the discredited theory
— asking his personal attorney
Rudy Giuliani to brief them on his trip to eastern Europe, :lol
where he searched for witnesses and documents to back up the claims.
Videos documenting his trip have aired on the pro-Trump television network, One America News, :lol
and have been viewed thousands of times online.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/as-trial-nears-trump-keeps-discredited-ukraine-theory-alive/ (https://www.truthdig.com/articles/as-trial-nears-trump-keeps-discredited-ukraine-theory-alive/)
Julie Annie found what in Ukraine?
boutons_deux
01-12-2020, 03:54 PM
and Julie Annie wants SCOTUS to dismiss the A of I, which is of course Constitutionally IMPOSSIBLE :lol
Julie Annie is a lawyer? :lol
Chris
01-12-2020, 04:05 PM
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1216423993391091712?s=19
Dems got their scarlett letter
Moral victory I suppose. It's like the Clippers winning the 1st round over the Spurs and considering that their championship.
LkrFan
01-13-2020, 07:14 AM
https://twitter.com/jemelehill/status/1216692282742587393?s=19
SMH
boutons_deux
01-13-2020, 02:26 PM
Indicted Giuliani henchman hands over material ‘relevant to impeachment inquiry’ to Adam Schiff
Lev Parnas has handed over text messages, WhatsApp messages, and photos to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/indicted-giuliani-henchman-hands-over-material-relevant-to-impeachment-inquiry-to-adam-schiff/
... why Pelosi's delay is correct, more shit keeps coming out that will provey beyond any doubt the Senate Repugs will shitstain themselves with the Russian show trial, or dismissal
boutons_deux
01-13-2020, 02:32 PM
The View audience roars as Adam Schiff criticizes Meghan McCain on Trump impeachment
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) patiently explained the politics of impeachment to “The View” co-host Meghan McCain.
Schiff explained that polling showed Americans had been persuaded by the evidence turned up in the Democratic-led impeachment inquiry.
“If you’re going to look at the poll numbers,” he said, “what you’ll see
over the last three months is the country moving from a majority of Americans believing that we shouldn’t even have an impeachment investigation to
overwhelming support for the investigation and a majority, although
a narrow majority, of Americans saying that the Senate should convict and remove the president from office.
So that’s been a pretty substantial change.”
I think we in the House had to determine is this the right thing to do, is this the constitutionally required thing to do.”
“What convinced me, Meghan ... is when the president committed this
latest and most egregious misconduct, the shakedown of the Ukrainian president,
withheld military support to an ally at war and
was on the phone literally a day after Bob Mueller testified,
the day after the president believed he had escaped accountability for the first foreign interference to help his election,
he was back at it again,” Schiff added.
“That told me that he believes he is above the law, unaccountable, and we needed to move forward.
Even if the Senate won’t do their constitutional duty,
we in the House need to do ours.”
“If senators are doing their job, :lol
if they are being impartial jurors, :lol
if they are doing their duty under the Constitution, :lol
that ought to inure to their benefit,” he said.
“I’ve always felt that the best campaign was simply doing a good job, and (:lol best campaign is one with best funding)
I don’t think voters are going to hold it against senators
for taking the impeachment of the president of the United States seriously,
so I don’t think it should be an impediment to them.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/the-view-audience-roars-as-adam-schiff-schools-meghan-mccann-on-trump-impeachment/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3468 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/the-view-audience-roars-as-adam-schiff-schools-meghan-mccann-on-trump-impeachment/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3468)
boutons_deux
01-13-2020, 02:40 PM
Mitch McConnell hit with formal ethics complaint over Trump impeachment:
Statements ‘directly contradict his oath of impartiality’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mitch-mcconnell-hit-with-formal-ethics-complaint-over-trump-impeachment-statements-directly-contradict-his-oath-of-impartiality/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mitch-mcconnell-hit-with-formal-ethics-complaint-over-trump-impeachment-statements-directly-contradict-his-oath-of-impartiality/)
Why hasn't Barr been impeached his 4-page joke synopsis of Mueller? or why no ethics complaint?
boutons_deux
01-13-2020, 02:51 PM
‘There is a real danger’ Bill Barr could get the courts to make Trump totally immune from oversight
“Barr maintains that Article II of the Constitution gives a President control of all executive-branch agencies, without restriction,”
“In practice, this means that Trump would be within his rights to oversee an investigation into his own misconduct.”
Republican attorney Chuck Cooper argues that
Barr’s ideology is the culmination of a drive that began during the Reagan years.
“He is building and extending on a foundation.
It was popularized and very robustly advanced by the Meese Justice Department,”
. “The ultimate question is what happens when these reach the Supreme Court, which has two Trump appointees,” said Ayer.
“There is a real danger that he succeeds …
This, I believe, was
his opportunity — the opportunity of a lifetime —
to make major progress on advancing his vision of an all-powerful Chief Executive.”
this battle is not just playing out in the courts, but
in the staffing of the FBI and Justice Department itself —
by creating such a hostile environment for the old guard of career public servants that they leave and make room for partisan loyalists.
Gillers fears this trend will accelerate if Trump is re-elected in 2020.“One way that
Trump seeks to maximize control is minimizing the disclosure of information and
undermining the credibility of information,”
“The Congress needs information to do its job,
and the President has frozen it out —
especially in the impeachment investigation.
Another check is the media, and the President’s use of the term ‘fake news’ can cause people to lose faith in the media.
What remains are the courts, which are slow and cumbersome.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/there-is-a-real-danger-bill-barr-could-get-the-courts-to-make-trump-totally-immune-from-oversight-ex-doj-official/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
And of course, the Federal courts are now polluted with rightwing whore ideologues in robes
If Obama pulled this Trash/Barr/Moscow Mitch shit, the Repugs would be apoplectic.
Chris
01-13-2020, 03:42 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216774903036334080?s=19
Spurs Homer
01-13-2020, 03:51 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216774903036334080?s=19
qultist qhris loves - loves -loves to be lied to- directly to his face
he loves to be held -so contemptuously by a man he idolizes - that he is lied to 24/7
he even reposts the lies and revels in being insulted directly
*reserved for future bump*. :lol:lol
TheGreatYacht
01-13-2020, 03:58 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1216593543847911425
boutons_deux
01-13-2020, 04:02 PM
https://2vwlfu3ynqxb3npfhm3m8lde-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/2019-12-19T020426Z_1318724345_RC22YD9DPFVI_RTRMADP_3_USA-TRUMP-IMPEACHMENT-2000x1200.jpg
Pelosi Opens The Door To New Articles Of Impeachment Against Trump
STEPHANOPOULOS: You said he’s violating the Constitution again and again. Do you think it’s possible that the House might have to file new articles of impeachment?
PELOSI: Well, let’s just see what the Senate does. The ball will be in their court soon.
And as I say, we — I think that the American people have been very fair about saying, yes, we do want to see witnesses.
That wasn’t part of the discussion three weeks ago.
It is now.
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/13/pelosi-opens-the-door-to-new-articles-of-impeachment-against-trump.html (https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/13/pelosi-opens-the-door-to-new-articles-of-impeachment-against-trump.html)
Dig out the "totally exonerating" Mueller report for A of I with Mueller's findings of Trash obstructing 9? times.
The obstruction MUST be stopped, because that how Trash can set a precedent of any President committing crimes and then block oversight and prosecution by the House.
Trash, Barr, Repugs, dickhead Cheney with their Unitary Executive have been and still are turning the Presidency into an authoritarian shithole.
boutons_deux
01-13-2020, 04:29 PM
Rudy Giuliani And Judge Jeanine Agree:
Lithuanian Law Does Not Allow Pelosi To Impeach The President
GIULIANI:
The general theory is that impeachment is in the hands of the House.
With unlimited power? Wrong!
No such thing as unlimited power in the Constitution.
Every constitutional power has limits.
One of the limits of impeachment is written right into Article II, Section 4.
It has to be treason, bribery, high crime, misdemeanor. :lol
Abuse of power and the other ridiculous... obstruction of Congress... you can't find it in 18 USC.
You can't find it in common law.
You can't find it in Lithuanian law. :lol
https://www.wonkette.com/did-rudy-giuliani-suffer-a-severe-head-trauma-or-was-he-always-this-crappy-a-lawyer (https://www.wonkette.com/did-rudy-giuliani-suffer-a-severe-head-trauma-or-was-he-always-this-crappy-a-lawyer)
Impeachment can be for WHATEVER reasons Congress, aka the ELECTED voice of the people, wants.
Julie Annie objecting to obstruction of Congress is just more Unitary Executive BULLSHIT
boutons_deux
01-13-2020, 04:35 PM
McConnell afraid GOP doesn’t have enough votes to dismiss impeachment charges against Trump
despite Trump’s urging, forcing senators
to vote against a fair trial would put Republicans up for reelection in danger of losing their seats.
the polling isn’t in Trump’s favor.
“McConnell has made clear to his colleagues that
he wants Trump to emerge victorious in the trial and
is not willing to hold a vote that could fail, sources said,”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mcconnell-afraid-gop-doesnt-have-enough-votes-to-dismiss-impeachment-charges-against-trump/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mcconnell-afraid-gop-doesnt-have-enough-votes-to-dismiss-impeachment-charges-against-trump/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)
boutons_deux
01-13-2020, 06:08 PM
White House believes ‘at least four Republicans’ will ditch Mitch and vote to allow witnesses
Senate Republicans could still vote to allow specific witnesses
after the evidence has been reviewed
but before the final vote —
“at least four Republicans, and likely more” are planning to do that,
possibly fearing the optics of rejecting testimony on the president’s conduct before voting to acquit.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/white-house-believes-at-least-four-republicans-will-ditch-mitch-and-vote-to-allow-witnesses-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
iow, some Repugs up for reelection are planning a charade, pro forma bullshit to look serious, then anyway vote to acquit. Are their Repug voters so fucking gullible? yep
TheGreatYacht
01-13-2020, 06:34 PM
Did Trump Attack Suleimani Because Of Impeachment?
https://youtu.be/CDD44cRFRNA
boutons_deux
baseline bum
01-13-2020, 06:46 PM
White House believes ‘at least four Republicans’ will ditch Mitch and vote to allow witnesses
Senate Republicans could still vote to allow specific witnesses
after the evidence has been reviewed
but before the final vote —
“at least four Republicans, and likely more” are planning to do that,
possibly fearing the optics of rejecting testimony on the president’s conduct before voting to acquit.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/white-house-believes-at-least-four-republicans-will-ditch-mitch-and-vote-to-allow-witnesses-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
iow, some Repugs up for reelection are planning a charade, pro forma bullshit to look serious, then anyway vote to acquit. Are their Repug voters so fucking gullible? yep
Yeah, sounds like bullshit. I can't even think of one GOP senator who'd break rank much less four. Romney and Collins will attention whore for the cameras just like Jeff Flake used to do, but that'll be about all.
Spurs Homer
01-13-2020, 08:23 PM
White House believes ‘at least four Republicans’ will ditch Mitch and vote to allow witnesses
Senate Republicans could still vote to allow specific witnesses
after the evidence has been reviewed
but before the final vote —
“at least four Republicans, and likely more” are planning to do that,
possibly fearing the optics of rejecting testimony on the president’s conduct before voting to acquit.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/white-house-believes-at-least-four-republicans-will-ditch-mitch-and-vote-to-allow-witnesses-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
iow, some Repugs up for reelection are planning a charade, pro forma bullshit to look serious, then anyway vote to acquit. Are their Repug voters so fucking gullible? yep
nah
moscow mitch already made a deal
3 repukes will PRETEND
that they want a fair trial
but the key is this:
those three are protecting the FOURTH vulnerable senator
so the 3 will take a bullet to protect the 4th
those 3 will go to their constituents and explain that they TRIED but could not get a 4th vote
this saves
all 4 from their stupid republican sheeple constituents - keeping the senate majority - they hope
so either the Dem voters show up in november and HOPE they can overcome the republicans cheating, russias help, trump fuckery etc
or repukes get away with their cover up sham trial and complicity in destroying our democracy
thispego
01-13-2020, 08:56 PM
Y’all still think this shit is real? :lmao
Wise up, losers. The jig is up, the scam has run its course.
spurraider21
01-13-2020, 09:13 PM
Alright. Give me the rundown. I only listen to the Republican side on the radio. Limbaugh, Hanity, Levin got me convinced Trump did nothing wrong. I read Political subs on Reddit and you know what their stance is :rolleyes. Dems seem to be throwing shit at the wall and praying that something sticks. Russia, collusion, obstruction, now Ukraine. I want to hear a Democratic view that is not batshit crazy like douchey Reddit libs
:lol remember when you were just the innocent "i want to hear both sides" cute puppy?
ChumpDumper
01-13-2020, 09:15 PM
:lol "Reddit libs"
spurraider21
01-13-2020, 09:20 PM
Kill yourself
considering you thought it was a cool idea to make an account just for this purpose, you might want to consider your own advice
boutons_deux
01-13-2020, 09:46 PM
Republican Joni Ernst tells Mitch McConnell to start working with Democrats on impeachment
is another endangered Republican running for reelection in 2020.
She joined with Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) in complaining about the process of impeachment unfolding in the U.S. Senate.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/republican-joni-ernst-tells-mcconnell-to-start-working-with-democrats-on-impeachment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
boutons_deux
01-13-2020, 09:49 PM
Republican senators say they will not vote to dismiss charges against Trump ahead of trial
voiced opposition on Monday to any attempt to dismiss the charges against him without a trial.
Trump appeared on Sunday to reverse his position :lol
on how the Senate should proceed, writing on Twitter that a full trial would give the Democrats who pursued impeachment undeserved credibility and signaling support for dismissal of the charges with no trial.
“There is almost no interest” among Republican senators for a motion to dismiss the House charges,
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/republican-senators-say-they-will-not-vote-to-dismiss-charges-against-trump-ahead-of-trial-idUSKBN1ZC0YT?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/republican-senators-say-they-will-not-vote-to-dismiss-charges-against-trump-ahead-of-trial-idUSKBN1ZC0YT?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29)
ElNono
01-13-2020, 11:02 PM
Yeah, sounds like bullshit. I can't even think of one GOP senator who'd break rank much less four. Romney and Collins will attention whore for the cameras just like Jeff Flake used to do, but that'll be about all.
Maverick ain't around to rally the troops anymore, tbh...
https://media1.tenor.com/images/c2731222e798e4b4c4477062552f5c5d/tenor.gif?itemid=15025219
spurraider21
01-13-2020, 11:49 PM
Maverick ain't around to rally the troops anymore, tbh...
https://media1.tenor.com/images/c2731222e798e4b4c4477062552f5c5d/tenor.gif?itemid=15025219
:lol love the guy keeping the tally nod his head expecting a yes vote
RandomGuy
01-14-2020, 10:49 AM
:lol love the guy keeping the tally nod his head expecting a yes vote
Well actually McCain was waiting for him to look up. The nod was "yes I see you and am ready to tally your vote". Not that I watched it a few times.... heh
LkrFan
01-14-2020, 12:40 PM
This should be impeachable too
https://twitter.com/MHackman/status/1217137521278291968?s=19
SMH
boutons_deux
01-14-2020, 02:39 PM
Democrats Demand That Giuliani Be Trump’s Lawyer at Impeachment Trial
WASHINGTON —Rudolph Giuliani’s offer to act as Donald J. Trump’s defense attorney at the President’s impeachment trial has received unanimous support from congressional Democrats, who are now demanding that he perform such a role.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer told reporters on Tuesday that Giuliani’s participation as Trump’s lawyer during his Senate trial was, as far as they were concerned, “nonnegotiable.”
“Rudy Giuliani has demonstrated over the past three years that he can represent the President as no one else can,” Pelosi said.
“If he is not the President’s lawyer in the Senate, that would be a deal-breaker for me.”
Concurring with Pelosi, Schumer added,
“My Democratic colleagues in the Senate are prepared to pay Mr. Giuliani’s hourly fees, in cash, to make this thing happen.”
Pelosi indicated that Democrats were now willing to back off their earlier demands for witnesses at the trial.
“No witnesses,” she said. “Just Giuliani.”
Appearing on Fox News, Giuliani said that he was “a little surprised” by the Democrats’ enthusiastic support, adding,
“Nancy Pelosi even offered to drive me to work every morning, which I thought was really nice.”
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell did not answer reporters’ questions about a possible role for Giuliani in the impeachment trial,
nor would he confirm reports that he had given the Senate’s security desk a photo of Giuliani with instructions to bar his entry.
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/democrats-demand-that-giuliani-be-trumps-lawyer-at-impeachment-trial (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/democrats-demand-that-giuliani-be-trumps-lawyer-at-impeachment-trial)
TheGreatYacht
01-14-2020, 03:15 PM
This should be impeachable too
https://twitter.com/MHackman/status/1217137521278291968?s=19
SMH
I bet ya Trump and his white Evangelical cult followers would be okay with those women performing abortions. #WhiteLivesMatterOnly to the white Christian Zionists. #Pro-life for whites only
Spurs Homer
01-14-2020, 03:26 PM
As much as i hate him...
moscow mitch has to be the odds-on favorite to get his way and have a sham treasonous trial
with trump using the SOTU address as his personal nazi rally
dems gonna get rolled pretty badly
boutons_deux
01-14-2020, 03:28 PM
If allowed, the Dems will call witnesses against Trash
Repugs will call which witnesses to defend Trash?
Spurs Homer
01-14-2020, 03:35 PM
If allowed, the Dems will call witnesses against Trash
Repugs will call which witnesses to defend Trash?
weak dik-less dems will tremble in fear of biden or the whistleblower being called
fuck it-
call their bluff and say - “no problem- you want biden give us trump” “you want the whistleblower- give us julie-yanni”
id take the hit of putting biden up there- they got nothing on either biden- just russian propaganda
id make chief justice roberts have to rule on it
boutons_deux
01-14-2020, 03:45 PM
McConnell not only is refusing to negotiate on impeachment rules — he won’t even talk to Democrats: Schumer
not only won’t work with Democrats on crafting agreeable rules for the impeachment trial, he won’t even speak to them.
"Burgess Everett
(https://twitter.com/burgessev)✔@burgessev
(https://twitter.com/burgessev)
(https://twitter.com/burgessev)Schumer sayss he's tried four times to get McConnell to talk to him about the impeachment rules to no avail"
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mcconnell-not-only-is-refusing-to-negotiate-on-impeachment-rules-he-wont-even-talk-to-democrats-schumer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/mcconnell-not-only-is-refusing-to-negotiate-on-impeachment-rules-he-wont-even-talk-to-democrats-schumer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)
Biden so so out touch, so out of date, to think he can work the Repugs on anything.
He SHOULD know from seeing Repugs block Obama
ducks
01-14-2020, 03:48 PM
Sounds like what Nancy did in house
Stupid Nancy
Spurs Homer
01-14-2020, 06:48 PM
Sounds like what Nancy did in house
Stupid Nancy
I cannot wait until trump is gone - either removed from office - defeated in an election - or brutally murdered -
but once he is gone -
shit like you -
can go back into your closet and practice wearing and removing your nazi uniform in private and out of anyone's hair.
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 06:54 PM
So with the Parnas text and emails it sounds like they were putting a hit out on the Ambassador
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 07:14 PM
1217237865048027136
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 07:19 PM
1217215352754577409
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 07:29 PM
1217221663646986241
Winehole23
01-14-2020, 07:35 PM
More locker room talk
Winehole23
01-14-2020, 07:47 PM
I guess we know what the security threat to Yovanovitch was. Odd that he wasn't arrested, since he's a US citizen.
Winehole23
01-14-2020, 07:49 PM
Oh, right
1217234910341222400
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 07:50 PM
I guess we know what the security threat to Yovanovitch was. Odd that he wasn't arrested, since he's a US citizen.
He just may be soon. Because the SDNY had all of this and allowed it to become public.
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 07:53 PM
1217245598434447367
Winehole23
01-14-2020, 07:54 PM
1217238313050001411
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 07:56 PM
1217236421083353089
Winehole23
01-14-2020, 07:57 PM
The drip drip drip is elucidating Trump's block everything/everyone strategy.
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 07:59 PM
Hyde is deleting his posts on twitter
baseline bum
01-14-2020, 08:03 PM
If allowed, the Dems will call witnesses against Trash
Repugs will call which witnesses to defend Trash?
Hunter Biden
Winehole23
01-14-2020, 08:11 PM
Hunter BidenThing is, it'll work.
Another reason not to nominate Biden. He probably can't survive the fake scandal.
baseline bum
01-14-2020, 08:11 PM
So with the Parnas text and emails it sounds like they were putting a hit out on the Ambassador
https://hugelolcdn.com/hugereaction.com/i/12920.gif
Spurs Homer
01-14-2020, 08:20 PM
just nice guys
nothing to see here -
no one cares anymore that our retard lying pos prez is also an amateur mob boss
Winehole23
01-14-2020, 08:26 PM
just nice guys
nothing to see here -
no one cares anymore that our retard lying pos prez is also an amateur mob bossno, no, that's yet another selling point
Spurs Homer
01-14-2020, 08:28 PM
no, no, that's yet another selling point
just a "smart" leader who knows how to get things done -
and who needs that traitor ambassador chick anyway?
MAGA!
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 08:52 PM
1217243671269183489
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 08:53 PM
1217248083999895552
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 08:59 PM
1217261122602094597
Spurs Homer
01-14-2020, 09:01 PM
1217248083999895552
will hurd the turd on that list (you would think they received a lot more - for the shit they are doing now)
disgrace to texas of course
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 09:21 PM
1217231800801603585
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 09:36 PM
1217273262364819457
More Breaking News on Channel 6 Bob
:lol broke bitch welcher crawling out from under the rock
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 09:51 PM
:lol broke bitch welcher crawling out from under the rock
I don’t take kindly to a wannabe mob boss orchestrating the surveillance of a US ambassador. Maybe you should get a moral compass pizza boy.
djohn2oo8
01-14-2020, 09:51 PM
Btw, care to comment on those text messages?
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 12:07 AM
:lol broke bitch welcher crawling out from under the rockyou got no take, just here to bite ankles
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 12:08 AM
Btw, I don't think any of this gets us any closer to removal, but it will increase the pain for votes to acquit.
djohn2oo8
01-15-2020, 12:11 AM
1217308309356716032
you got no take, just here to bite ankles
I already took everything from djohn, no need for a take.
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 01:00 AM
I already took everything from djohn, no need for a take.Nothing on topic, gotcha.
https://mobile.twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1217220632489971712
:rollin
Nothing on topic, gotcha.
:cry you must have a take on the poster with no take spamming tweets :cry
thispego
01-15-2020, 02:14 AM
id take the hit of putting biden up there- they got nothing on either biden- just russian propaganda
:lmao you wanna make a bet?
thispego
01-15-2020, 02:17 AM
I cannot wait until trump is gone - either removed from office - defeated in an election - or brutally murdered -
Lol WHOA :wow this one has swallowed the blue pill HARD. Get a grip, kid
thispego
01-15-2020, 02:29 AM
:lol remember when you were just the innocent "i want to hear both sides" cute puppy?
Yeah. Sadly y’all are as batshit crazy as the douchey Reddit libs. “Morally and intellectually superior” :cry
ElNono
01-15-2020, 03:25 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1217220632489971712
:rollin
The documents also include new information about the push for a Ukrainian-led investigation explicitly focused on the Biden family. Parnas turned over a photo of a note, written on stationary from the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Vienna, that includes an instruction to “get” Zelensky to announce that “the Biden case will be investigated.”
The note, whose authenticity was confirmed by Parnas’ counsel, also reads “start” communicating with Zelensky without Victor Pinchuk and Ihor Kolomoisky, two influential Ukrainian oligarchs.
ElNono
01-15-2020, 03:28 AM
Yeah. Sadly y’all are as batshit crazy as the douchey Reddit libs. “Morally and intellectually superior” :cry
Looks like dem douchey folks left a mark. :lol
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 09:47 AM
‘Damning’ Parnas docs are ‘what Trump has been afraid of’ — and now he has no impeachment defense: Neal Katyal
document dump of notes and texts by Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas is exactly what President Donald Trump worried might happen (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/01/15/lev-parnas-rudy-giuliani-have-demolished-trumps-claims-innocence/) if he didn’t get his Senate impeachment trial wrapped up as soon as possible.
“Americans who have been wondering
why President Trump has taken the extraordinary step of trying to block every document (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/us/politics/donald-trump-subpoenas.html) from being released to Congress in his impeachment
need wonder no longer.
“These new documents (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ukraine-prosecutor-offered-information-related-to-biden-in-exchange-for-ambassadors-ouster-newly-released-materials-show/2020/01/14/cc45d19e-371e-11ea-9541-9107303481a4_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_2) demolish at least three key defenses to which Trump and his allies have been clinging.”
“One of the new documents shows Mr. Giuliani saying that he had Mr. Trump’s blessing to seek a meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s president-elect, last spring, potential new evidence on the eve of the president’s impeachment trial,”
Mr. Parnas communicated with another man who appeared to be monitoring the movements of [Ukraine ambassador] Ms. Yovanovitch. The texts, exchanged in March on WhatsApp, indicated that the second man, Robert F. Hyde, was in touch with people in Ukraine who were watching Ms. Yovanovitch.”
they prove that Trump’s already-eyebrow-raising claim to have been fighting corruption in Ukraine was bogus.
Notes taken by Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas — now facing federal criminal charges — show what
his and Giuliani’s mission was when they got in touch with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky:
‘get Zalensky [sic] to Announce that the Biden case will Be Investigated.'”
letter from Giuliani to Zelensky ... “This letter is a devastating indication of what’s been clear to many all along:
that Trump’s pursuit of an announcement that Ukraine was looking into Biden was an abuse of his public office for personal gain.
it makes clear that what was afoot had nothing to do with law enforcement or Biden’s corruption —
it wasn’t a request from the official ‘President of the United States’
but rather one from a ‘private citizen.'”
so damning to Trump that
we can foresee the president claiming during impeachment that Giuliani was lying
That’s where Senate testimony can prove crucial,”
the documents help to explain Trump’s consistent push to bury the evidence against himself.
Trump is a man with something to hide.
Let’s see what else he’s hiding —
in front of the Senate next week, in a good, old-fashioned American trial for all to see.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/damning-parnas-docs-are-what-trump-has-been-afraid-of-and-now-he-has-no-impeachment-defense-neal-katyal/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3482
"Trump is a man with something to hide" about Ukrainesame as Trash/Barr still hide the evidence, eg of Trash's serial obstruction, behind Mueller's report
If Senate Repugs VOTE to approve Trash's obstruction of incriminating evidence ... America is fucked and unfuckable.
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 09:52 AM
US govt has had people OFFICIALLY "doing things" on behalf of USA
"the people that we had doing special diplomacy were people like
George Mitchell, you know,
Tom Foley went out and did some things — the former speaker of the House.
Richard Holbrook.”
“Not two-bit criminals who are either mob figures or trying to act like mob figures,” Lockhart replied.
“It’s unconscionable that [Secretary of State] Mike Pompeo allowed this to go on.
You have to believe at some point he read into all of the stuff and he allowed it.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ex-white-house-official-drops-hammer-on-mike-pompeo-after-two-bit-criminals-stalked-ukraine-ambassador/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3482 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ex-white-house-official-drops-hammer-on-mike-pompeo-after-two-bit-criminals-stalked-ukraine-ambassador/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3482)
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 09:57 AM
:cry you must have a take on the poster with no take spamming tweets :cryasked and answered many times.
what djohn posted is newsworthy, do you have a take on the news?
looks bad for your boy, he's gonna need some new defenses.
baseline bum
01-15-2020, 10:18 AM
asked and answered many times.
what djohn posted is newsworthy, do you have a take on the news?
looks bad for your boy, he's gonna need some new defenses.
His boy doesn't need any defense. The hardline senate GOP is 100% perfectly fine with corruption in plain sight.
Spurs Homer
01-15-2020, 10:20 AM
House impeachment mgrs:
Schiff, Hakeem Jeffries, Val Demings - all great choices
nadler, lofgren, garcia,jason crowe- meh could have been better with - raskin, and a couple of others
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 10:33 AM
His boy doesn't need any defense. The hardline senate GOP is 100% perfectly fine with corruption in plain sight.No doubt, but the latest evidence will enhance the pain of a vote to block witnesses and acquit. I'd be surprised if the Dems don't have a few more arrows in the quiver.
baseline bum
01-15-2020, 10:45 AM
No doubt, but the latest evidence will enhance the pain of a vote to block witnesses and acquit.
How so? Every GOP senator other than Romney knows Trump has them by the balls because he owns their voters. It's pretty simple they have to support him 100% or they have zero shot of surviving a primary.
ChumpDumper
01-15-2020, 10:46 AM
Yeah. Sadly y’all are as batshit crazy as the douchey Reddit libs. “Morally and intellectually superior” :cry
The only way to be all in on Trump is to be the opposite of that tbh.
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 10:50 AM
How so? Every GOP senator other than Romney knows Trump has them by the balls because he owns their voters. It's pretty simple they have to support him 100% or they have zero shot of surviving a primary.I wouldn't totally disregard the vanity of US Senators. They want to be well -regarded in the long run. I also think it's hasty to presume that a vote to acquit Trump will directly benefit all GOP Senators at the ballot box.
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 11:20 AM
No doubt, but the latest evidence will enhance the pain of a vote to block witnesses and acquit. I'd be surprised if the Dems don't have a few more arrows in the quiver.
Guessing there is a reason that Pelosi held the vote a bit. Lot's of conservatives want to think this backfired, it seems. That means the Senate trial will likely be ongoing.
I would note the State of the Union is coming up, MONDAY, five days from now. Deliver articles of impeachment Friday right before close of business, to overshadow, or simply give them "coincidentally" on the same day.
Looks a lot like twisting the knife.
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 11:23 AM
I wouldn't totally disregard the vanity of US Senators. They want to be well -regarded in the long run. I also think it's hasty to presume that a vote to acquit Trump will directly benefit all GOP Senators at the ballot box.
In a non-open primary no. In a general?
Collins is already likely a goner because of Kavanaugh. I doubt she will be alone.
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 11:39 AM
In a non-open primary no. In a general?
Collins is already likely a goner because of Kavanaugh. I doubt she will be alone.
I know some Collins voters in ME who are REALLY pissed off
thispego
01-15-2020, 12:01 PM
The only way to be all in on Trump is to be the opposite of that tbh.
Thinking you are morally and intellectually superior isn’t the same as being morally and intellectually superior, so yes, you’re right.
ChumpDumper
01-15-2020, 12:07 PM
Thinking you are morally and intellectually superior isn’t the same as being morally and intellectually superior, so yes, you’re right.No, I mean you have to be morally and intellectually inferior to be all in on Dennison.
Understand?
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 12:43 PM
sidebar: impeachment process
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The documents also include new information about the push for a Ukrainian-led investigation explicitly focused on the Biden family. Parnas turned over a photo of a note, written on stationary from the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Vienna, that includes an instruction to “get” Zelensky to announce that “the Biden case will be investigated.”
The note, whose authenticity was confirmed by Parnas’ counsel, also reads “start” communicating with Zelensky without Victor Pinchuk and Ihor Kolomoisky, two influential Ukrainian oligarchs.
A undated handwritten note by a guy being tried for fraud that's already lied to the DOJ :lmao
ChumpDumper
01-15-2020, 01:22 PM
Did techno fog say that?
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 01:25 PM
A undated handwritten note by a guy being tried for fraud that's already lied to the DOJ :lmaolol using the mendacity of Trump's henchmen as a shield.
What's your take on Robert Hyde tailing Yovanovitch and offering to have some Ukrainian tough guys "take care of her"?
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 02:44 PM
I know some Collins voters in ME who are REALLY pissed off
No doubt. Already gave $20 to her opponent, and once the primary is over... her and McConnells opponent are going to be flooded.
McConnell is as deeply unliked in his home state as anyone, even worse liked than Cruz, who won by, what less than 2%?
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 02:46 PM
A undated handwritten note by a guy being tried for fraud that's already lied to the DOJ :lmao
Its not like he put his name on a fraudulent university or anything.
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 02:46 PM
A undated handwritten note by a guy being tried for fraud that's already lied to the DOJ :lmao
Its not like he put his name on a fraudulent charity or something.
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 02:47 PM
A undated handwritten note by a guy being tried for fraud that's already lied to the DOJ :lmao
Its not like he defrauded condo investors or anything.
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 02:47 PM
Fraud bad now?
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 02:52 PM
How about Trash suckering investors into his casino scam, casino paying him $80M, then walks away as Casinos fail?
Casino employees, vets from other casinos, said Trash had no idea how to run a casino.
Spurs Homer
01-15-2020, 03:08 PM
Impeachment vote:
228 to impeach the motherfucker
193- to swallow the mushroom load and betray america
Forever
CosmicCowboy
01-15-2020, 03:12 PM
Impeachment vote:
228 to impeach the motherfucker
193- to swallow the mushroom load and betray america
Forever
:lmao
fucking drama queen
Spurs Homer
01-15-2020, 03:23 PM
A undated handwritten note by a guy being tried for fraud that's already lied to the DOJ :lmao
the checks signed by your dear leader- to pay off porn stars
was signed and dated by your god
IN THE OVAL OFFICE
while impersonating a US president
cohen in prison for the crime that - Individual 1 - directed
you opened wide and swallowed back then also
lolol
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 03:31 PM
:lmao
fucking drama queennot bigger than DJT, tbh.
DJT has gone full emo.
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 04:19 PM
:lmao
fucking drama queen
WASHINGTON — New impeachment evidence released by House Democrats on Tuesday included texts sent between Connecticut congressional candidate Robert Hyde and Soviet-born businessman Lev Parnas in 2019.
It appears Hyde worked with Parnas to monitor the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch’s movements in Ukraine, as a campaign unfolded to remove her from her post. The texts suggest that Hyde worked with a Ukrainian team to track Yovanovitch, possibly with the goal of interfering with her work in some fashion.
“If you want her out, they need to make contact with security forces,” Hyde wrote to Parnas on March 26, 2019.
“They are willing to help if we/you would like a price,” Hyde wrote in one chilling message. “Guess you can do anything in the Ukraine with money... what I was told.”
Hyde and Parnas exchanged numerous messages about Yovanovitch’s precise whereabouts.
“She under heavy protection outside Kiev,” Hyde wrote to Parnas.
Two days later, he wrote to Parnas: “They are moving her tomorrow.”
Hyde followed up, “The guys over there asked me what I would like to do and what is in it for them.”
Then he provided more details about Yovanovitch’s movements, noting her computer was off and she was outside the embassy.
“They will let me know when she is on the move,” Hyde wrote.
Parnas responded, “Perfect.”
https://www.middletownpress.com/middletown/article/CT-Congressional-candidate-Hyde-worked-with-14975448.php
Why do you think they were tracking the movements and security details of the US ambassador?
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 04:22 PM
A undated handwritten note by a guy being tried for fraud that's already lied to the DOJ :lmao
Sadly for your attempts at semen shielding, it's a bit more than that.
WASHINGTON — New impeachment evidence released by House Democrats on Tuesday included texts sent between Connecticut congressional candidate Robert Hyde and Soviet-born businessman Lev Parnas in 2019.
It appears Hyde worked with Parnas to monitor the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch’s movements in Ukraine, as a campaign unfolded to remove her from her post. The texts suggest that Hyde worked with a Ukrainian team to track Yovanovitch, possibly with the goal of interfering with her work in some fashion.
“If you want her out, they need to make contact with security forces,” Hyde wrote to Parnas on March 26, 2019.
“They are willing to help if we/you would like a price,” Hyde wrote in one chilling message. “Guess you can do anything in the Ukraine with money... what I was told.”
Hyde and Parnas exchanged numerous messages about Yovanovitch’s precise whereabouts.
“She under heavy protection outside Kiev,” Hyde wrote to Parnas.
Two days later, he wrote to Parnas: “They are moving her tomorrow.”
Hyde followed up, “The guys over there asked me what I would like to do and what is in it for them.”
Then he provided more details about Yovanovitch’s movements, noting her computer was off and she was outside the embassy.
“They will let me know when she is on the move,” Hyde wrote.
Parnas responded, “Perfect.”
https://www.middletownpress.com/middletown/article/CT-Congressional-candidate-Hyde-worked-with-14975448.php
Why do you think they were tracking the movements and security details of the US ambassador?
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 04:24 PM
Radioactive.
No one on red team has addressed that yet.
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 04:32 PM
Radioactive.
No one on red team has addressed that yet.
Of course not. I can hear TSA desperately plumbing the depths of the dumb-o-sphere for some wall of text wave-off, and Twitter Qhris swiping downwards on his phone from here.
I will keep asking though. It seems mildly important.
thispego
01-15-2020, 04:34 PM
No, I mean you have to be morally and intellectually inferior to be all in on Dennison.
Understand?
No, I don’t think that you do
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 04:38 PM
Also looking increasingly likely there will be witnesses.
The strategic decision by Pelosi to delay things a bit seems to have paid off in spades.
here are the bullet points of new evidence from Pelosi's Dear Colleague letter:
On December 20, new emails showed that 91 minutes after Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Zelensky, a top Office of Management and Budget (OMB) aide asked the Department of Defense to "hold off" on sending military aid to Ukraine.
On December 29, revelations emerged about OMB Director and Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney's role in the delay of aid, the effort by lawyers at the OMB, the Department of Justice and the White House to justify the delay, and the alarm that the delay caused within the Administration.
On January 2, newly unredacted Pentagon emails, which we had subpoenaed and the President had blocked, raised serious concerns by Trump Administration officials about the legality of the President's hold on aid to Ukraine.
And on January 6, just this week, former Trump National Security Advisor John Bolton announced he would comply with a subpoena compelling his testimony. His lawyers have stated he has new relevant information.
That's BEFORE Lev Parnas's texts. And now we have those, and more are coming. (He's going to be on Maddow tonight! Wheeeee!) God even knows what we'll know by Tuesday when the Senate trial will likely fully get underway.
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 04:40 PM
No, I don’t think that you do
(shrugs)
One has to be mildly evil to be supporting Trump at this point, or really stupid, although I guess those are not mutually exclusive.
Chris
01-15-2020, 04:47 PM
2Gej5nsHi0o
ChumpDumper
01-15-2020, 04:48 PM
No, I don’t think that you doTo be all in on Dennison?
Yes, I believe it's a prerequisite.
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 04:50 PM
I hope the Dem managers have that pitbull prosecutor Barry Berke behind them.
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 04:51 PM
2Gej5nsHi0o
WASHINGTON — New impeachment evidence released by House Democrats on Tuesday included texts sent between Connecticut congressional candidate Robert Hyde and Soviet-born businessman Lev Parnas in 2019.
It appears Hyde worked with Parnas to monitor the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch’s movements in Ukraine, as a campaign unfolded to remove her from her post. The texts suggest that Hyde worked with a Ukrainian team to track Yovanovitch, possibly with the goal of interfering with her work in some fashion.
“If you want her out, they need to make contact with security forces,” Hyde wrote to Parnas on March 26, 2019.
“They are willing to help if we/you would like a price,” Hyde wrote in one chilling message. “Guess you can do anything in the Ukraine with money... what I was told.”
Hyde and Parnas exchanged numerous messages about Yovanovitch’s precise whereabouts.
“She under heavy protection outside Kiev,” Hyde wrote to Parnas.
Two days later, he wrote to Parnas: “They are moving her tomorrow.”
Hyde followed up, “The guys over there asked me what I would like to do and what is in it for them.”
Then he provided more details about Yovanovitch’s movements, noting her computer was off and she was outside the embassy.
“They will let me know when she is on the move,” Hyde wrote.
Parnas responded, “Perfect.”
https://www.middletownpress.com/middletown/article/CT-Congressional-candidate-Hyde-worked-with-14975448.php
Why do you think they were tracking the movements and security details of the US ambassador?
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 04:55 PM
‘Do you paint houses, too?’
Nancy Pelosi suggests Trump is a mobster with line from The Irishman
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Robert-De-Niro-and-Donald-Trump.jpg
Speaker Nancy Pelosi raised eyebrows on Wednesday during a speech on the floor of the House of Representatives as she sent two articles of impeachment to the U.S. Senate.
“The president of the United States,
in using appropriated funds enacted in a bipartisan way by this Congress, funds that were meant to help the Ukraine fight the Russians —
the president considered that his private ATM machine, I guess,” Pelosi said.
“And said he could say to the president [of Ukraine], he could make — ‘do me a favor.'”
“Do me a favor? Do you paint houses too? What is this?” Pelosi wondered.
“Do me a favor?”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/do-you-paint-houses-too-nancy-pelosi-suggests-trump-is-a-mobster-with-line-from-the-irishman/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3494&recip_id=298460&list_id=1
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/02/06/USAT/4b496dcf-ab47-4da6-a824-73008ed3265b-AFP_AFP_1D3202.JPG
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 04:57 PM
A undated handwritten note by a guy being tried for fraud that's already lied to the DOJ :lmao
"with his knowledge and consent"
https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yMjUwNzA4Mi9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTU4MDUyMjA0MX0.ydaTVtINw ycHosOVURFaDWsciQMESSvzPnZWkJfRYfI/img.png?width=980
In case you can't decipher the siggy, that is Rudy fucking Guliani.
:lmao
Spurs Homer
01-15-2020, 05:02 PM
Overlooked in this latest trump crime:
1) pompeo is ok with one of his ambassadors being hunted and stalked- because- “dear leader is my god”
2) criminal barr was hiding this evidence all this time because the DOJ had these docs all this time
Spurs Homer
01-15-2020, 05:04 PM
Criminals will do what criminals always do
commit crimes
anyone tired of the shit-show yet?
dbreiden83080
01-15-2020, 05:21 PM
All so the Senate acquits him ASAP.. Thanks for wasting our time Dems..
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 05:22 PM
All so the Senate acquits him ASAP.. Thanks for wasting our time Dems..
Welcome.
Why was the Trump donor tracking the movement and security details of the US ambassador to Ukraine?
WASHINGTON — New impeachment evidence released by House Democrats on Tuesday included texts sent between Connecticut congressional candidate Robert Hyde and Soviet-born businessman Lev Parnas in 2019.
It appears Hyde worked with Parnas to monitor the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch’s movements in Ukraine, as a campaign unfolded to remove her from her post. The texts suggest that Hyde worked with a Ukrainian team to track Yovanovitch, possibly with the goal of interfering with her work in some fashion.
“If you want her out, they need to make contact with security forces,” Hyde wrote to Parnas on March 26, 2019.
“They are willing to help if we/you would like a price,” Hyde wrote in one chilling message. “Guess you can do anything in the Ukraine with money... what I was told.”
Hyde and Parnas exchanged numerous messages about Yovanovitch’s precise whereabouts.
“She under heavy protection outside Kiev,” Hyde wrote to Parnas.
Two days later, he wrote to Parnas: “They are moving her tomorrow.”
Hyde followed up, “The guys over there asked me what I would like to do and what is in it for them.”
Then he provided more details about Yovanovitch’s movements, noting her computer was off and she was outside the embassy.
“They will let me know when she is on the move,” Hyde wrote.
Parnas responded, “Perfect.”
https://www.middletownpress.com/middletown/article/CT-Congressional-candidate-Hyde-worked-with-14975448.php
dbreiden83080
01-15-2020, 05:24 PM
Welcome.
Why was the Trump donor tracking the movement and security details of the US ambassador to Ukraine?
Don't grill me. Trump is slime. But they don't have the votes. The Dems are wasting our time..
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 05:26 PM
Don't grill me. Trump is slime. But they don't have the votes. The Dems are wasting our time..
What if the new evidence provides the votes?
What if it is the right thing to do anyway?
Should good people not do the right thing, because bad people might to bad things? Is that what you are saying here?
dbreiden83080
01-15-2020, 05:28 PM
What if the new evidence provides the votes?
What if it is the right thing to do anyway?
Should good people not do the right thing, because bad people might to bad things? Is that what you are saying here?
Republicans are so dug in. And they are going to control what is presented. Witnesses and what not.. They won't vote against Trump..
baseline bum
01-15-2020, 05:29 PM
All so the Senate acquits him ASAP.. Thanks for wasting our time Dems..
Imagine if our Dear Leader had done something serious, like get a blowjob.
Chris
01-15-2020, 05:33 PM
*random article that has nothing to do with post
spurraider21
01-15-2020, 05:36 PM
What if the new evidence provides the votes?
:lmao yeah ok
What if it is the right thing to do anyway?
Should good people not do the right thing, because bad people might to bad things? Is that what you are saying here?
this i agree with
but pelosi handled it poorly. instead of rushing out a party line vote and then holding the articles to try to negotiate procedure, and then realize "oh wait theres more evidence we need more witnesses" she should have either
a) just been patient and let the impeachment inquiry run its course, let the evidence come in, call those witnesses yourself, etc
or
b) hand over the articles immediately. you can always point to cocaine mitch as running a sham trial, but dont give them counter ammunition for your withholding the articles unnecessarily long when you know you dont have leverage
TheGreatYacht
01-15-2020, 05:40 PM
:lmao yeah ok
this i agree with
but pelosi handled it poorly. instead of rushing out a party line vote and then holding the articles to try to negotiate procedure, and then realize "oh wait theres more evidence we need more witnesses" she should have either
a) just been patient and let the impeachment inquiry run its course, let the evidence come in, call those witnesses yourself, etc
or
b) hand over the articles immediately. you can always point to cocaine mitch as running a sham trial, but dont give them counter ammunition for your withholding the articles unnecessarily long when you know you dont have leverage
Or she should have not even drafted articles of impeachment in the first place.
spurraider21
01-15-2020, 05:41 PM
Or she should have not even drafted articles of impeachment in the first place.
if he committed impeachable offenses its your constitutional duty to hold him accountable. like RG said, you dont do the wrong thing just because you're convinced that the senate will probably do the wrong thing
TheGreatYacht
01-15-2020, 05:49 PM
if he committed impeachable offenses its your constitutional duty to hold him accountable. like RG said, you dont do the wrong thing just because you're convinced that the senate will probably do the wrong thing
Gotta see the big picture. Nancy Pelosi KNEW that an impeachment trial would boost Trump's ratings amongst his supporters and independents. She's on video admitting she doesn't care. She don't want Bernie or Warren. I can't believe you fools can't see this. You just swallow up what Nancy Pelosi spoonfed you.
spurraider21
01-15-2020, 05:50 PM
Gotta see the big picture. Nancy Pelosi KNEW that an impeachment trial would boost his ratings amongst his supporters and independents. She's on video admitting she doesn't care. She don't want Bernie or Warren. Can't you fools can't see this. You just swallow up what Nancy Pelosi spoonfed you.
its about integrity
doing the right thing and putting country before party. i'm ok with that
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 05:57 PM
Republicans are so dug in. And they are going to control what is presented. Witnesses and what not.. They won't vote against Trump..
Not so sure.
I don't think they will vote to remove him. But new stuff keeps coming out, and one or two witnesses could sway it. Hard to say.
Even so, it is just the right thing to do, IMO.
At this point, I have become convinced the Republican party is simply too much of a threat to Democracy in the US to be allowed to not be challenged, and hopefully destroyed as a national force. Forcing them to vote FOR Trump in this case has some enormous political messaging advantages to destroy them in elections.
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 05:59 PM
Don't grill me. Trump is slime. But they don't have the votes. The Dems are wasting our time..
nope, the Dem managers, and maybe witnesses for the prosecution, will tatoo slimebag Trash's name into the Congressional record, forever, as criminal.
The shitbag craven, dickless, obsequious Repugs who acquit a BLATANT criminal with strong public disapproval will also be tatooed as SOFT-on-(Repug) CRIME
spurraider21
01-15-2020, 06:02 PM
Not so sure.
I don't think they will vote to remove him. But new stuff keeps coming out, and one or two witnesses could sway it. Hard to say.
Even so, it is just the right thing to do, IMO.
At this point, I have become convinced the Republican party is simply too much of a threat to Democracy in the US to be allowed to not be challenged, and hopefully destroyed as a national force. Forcing them to vote FOR Trump in this case has some enormous political messaging advantages to destroy them in elections.
there will be immense pressure from the GOP to keep everybody in line tbh, they know even a single GOP vote in favor of removal would taint the whole thing. i doubt anybody breaks rank no matter what comes out, honestly, barring trump outright sanctioning a hit :lol
RandomGuy
01-15-2020, 06:09 PM
there will be immense pressure from the GOP to keep everybody in line tbh, they know even a single GOP vote in favor of removal would taint the whole thing. i doubt anybody breaks rank no matter what comes out, honestly, barring trump outright sanctioning a hit :lol
I am sure the pressure will be immense.
I am also sure that one or two Senators are looking around and wondering if Trump and their job is worth it.
Makes one miss McCain all the more.
I wouldn't totally disregard the vanity of US Senators. They want to be well -regarded in the long run. I also think it's hasty to presume that a vote to acquit Trump will directly benefit all GOP Senators at the ballot box.
The president was properly impeached and should be removed from office. I haven't seen anything that passes as a non-specious defense of what Trump has done. The trickle of more evidence showing corruption associated with Trump, Guiliani, et al is further proof.
That said, for me, the impeachment is over. He'll never get removed. There won't be enough potential votes for removal in the Senate to make it interesting. I want to believe that there'll be the discomfort you suggest, but I haven't really seen anything that suggests that to even be the case. The country made a decision that it doesn't care to hold its officials to things like rule of law, upholding their oath of office, putting country before party, etc...
Spurs Homer
01-15-2020, 06:28 PM
There is no grey line. No bullshit political justification.
Just a case with facts and evidence and a slam dunk case for conviction.
Let the chips fall where they may
Dems know the facts support conviction.
Repugs know the facts support conviction.
The citizens of the USA know the facts support conviction.
Go ahead and vote your conscience.
The chips will fall where they may.
Dismiss it thru a sham trial - good luck in your career.
Acquit him despite the evidence supporting conviction- good luck in your career and your life.
Participate in a criminal cover up - dont cry later when all the evidence continues to trickle out in the future and you are confronted with your complicity.
Let the chips fall- the world is watching.
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 06:32 PM
I want to believe that there'll be the discomfort you suggest, but I haven't really seen anything that suggests that to even be the case. The country made a decision that it doesn't care to hold its officials to things like rule of law, upholding their oath of office, putting country before party, etc...I wouldn't go that far. If DJT loses in November and the Dems win the Senate, GOP interest in all those lofty principles may revive.
spurraider21
01-15-2020, 06:37 PM
just look at polling on impeachment. its like 95/5 by political party. theres no chance a GOP senator sees acquittal as anything but politically convenient
I wouldn't go that far. If DJT loses in November and the Dems win the Senate, GOP interest in all those lofty principles may revive.
I'd expect that. I have some ennui over whether there'll be any actual accountability in such a scenario though.
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 06:38 PM
I'd expect that. I have some ennui over whether there'll be any actual accountability in such a scenario though.Very doubtful.
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 06:42 PM
I'd expect that. I have some ennui over whether there'll be any actual accountability in such a scenario though.
If Dems take the Senate, a Dem should give really nasty speech about Trash and all his crimes, including his rap sheet pre-Presidency and gawd awful Presidential behaviour, then read out the list of Senators who voted to acquit.
Apart from that, I can see now way the acquitters will be held accountable.
Chris
01-15-2020, 06:47 PM
2Gej5nsHi0o
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 06:50 PM
Adam Schiff: We’re Still Going Through ‘Tremendous Volume of Documents’ Lev Parnas Provided
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/adam-schiff-were-still-going-through-tremendous-volume-of-documents-lev-parnas-provided/
Dems should ask SCOTUS for immediately emergency ruling on Trash obstructing the impeachment probe, and make sure it extends to materials behind the Mueller investigation.
dbreiden83080
01-15-2020, 06:52 PM
I am sure the pressure will be immense.
I am also sure that one or two Senators are looking around and wondering if Trump and their job is worth it.
Makes one miss McCain all the more.
Problem is everything can be spun. And we live in a time where one side feels the other side is always full of shit. Everything they say is a lie.. Trump's base has shown this. They believe nothing whatsoever at all that is Anti Trump.. The Republicans try to spin this like the whole thing is about Hunter Biden for shit sake..
dbreiden83080
01-15-2020, 06:56 PM
Let the chips fall- the world is watching.
Is the world watching though? Most people will catch the recap on MSNBC or Fox News. I can't watch 9 hours of coverage after work. Fox News won't report anything damning.. They will talk about the evil Dems, and the flawed process. Our system is broken..
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 07:34 PM
bipartisan anger at Moscow Mitch for trying close the impeachment proceedings.
Both political parties are furious McConnell wants to hide Senators from Americans during impeachment
hide the impeachment proceedings from the American people.
he wants to avoid access to the leaders by citizens. During the confirmation hearing of then-Judge Brett Kavanaugh, voters were able to meet their senators in the hallways.
Senate Rules Committee Chairman Roy Blunt (R-MO) and Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) both agreed that
they didn’t want to allow access to voters or to the press because they don’t want to be “harassed.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/both-political-parties-are-furious-mcconnell-wants-to-hide-senators-from-americans-during-impeachment/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/both-political-parties-are-furious-mcconnell-wants-to-hide-senators-from-americans-during-impeachment/)
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 07:36 PM
No tweeting:
Senators have to keep quiet, :lol
stay off iPhones, :lol no porn?
and remain seated during Trump's impeachment trial :lol
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-rules-for-trump-senate-impeachment-trial-2020-1 (https://www.businessinsider.com/the-rules-for-trump-senate-impeachment-trial-2020-1)
what about android phones?
authoritarian "father-figure" Repugs treating senators like children.
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 07:40 PM
Pelosi's Special Ops impeachment managers
"
Adam Schiff, chair of the House Intelligence Committee, will serve as the lead. He's been an impeachment manager before, in 2010, for the trial of Judge Thomas Porteous. He is a WELL-KNOWN TREASON PARAPHRASER. (https://www.wonkette.com/uh-oh-did-adam-schiff-do-treason-and-collusion-with-the-whistleblowers-report-no)
Jerry Nadler, chair of the House Judiciary Committee, will be there too. Nadler is a Gemini.
OH FORGOT, Adam Schiff is a Cancer. (ON SOCIETY.)
Val Demings of Florida, a badass who sits on both committees, was one of the most effective (https://www.wonkette.com/ready-set-ruin-trumps-day-impeachment-hearings-liveblog-day-one) questioners (https://www.wonkette.com/lets-watch-republicans-sh-t-on-a-guy-with-a-purple-heart-impeachment-liveblog-day-three) in the House hearings and is a former cop, VAL IS A COP!111!1!!! Also a Pisces.
Zoe Lofgren of California is known around the Judiciary Committee for being incredibly smart and knowing her shit better than just about anybody. She knows her way around impeachment, as she helped draft (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/15/us/politics/who-is-zoe-lofgren.html) the articles against Richard Nixon. She is a Sagittarius.
Hakeem Jeffries of New York, from the Judiciary Committee, was also an effective questioner. He is a corporate lawyer and a Leo.
Sylvia Garcia of Texas, also from Judiciary. She is a lawyer and a judge, and a Virgo.
Jason Crow of Colorado, a new House Democrat who is a former Army Ranger and a lawyer. He's not on either of the committees, but again, Army Ranger and lawyer, and he was one of the national security Democrats who helped kick off (https://www.wonkette.com/house-dems-all-jumping-on-impeachment-train-like-choo-choo-motherf-cker) the impeachment inquiry in the first place. Like Val Demings, Crow is a Pisces.
These sound like good choices, and we'd expect nothing less from Pelosi."
https://www.wonkette.com/nancy-pelosis-impeachment-managers-is-a-cop-ok-at-least-val-demings-is
thispego
01-15-2020, 07:54 PM
(shrugs)
One has to be mildly evil to be supporting Trump at this point, or really stupid, although I guess those are not mutually exclusive.
“Because CNN tells me so”
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 08:00 PM
New Trump revelations are a
‘fecal iceberg’ :lol
that will only lead to more damning info
“All of it was this corrupt, second-tier channel, as the letter proves,
by Rudy [Giuliani] and by Parnas and by all these people
in this pyramid of skells and weirdos and mooks,” said Wilson.
“And all of these people that were involved in this,
they’re out of the State Department chain.
All the claims that the State Department had anything to do with this are just flatly wrong.
They were the ones trying to figure out where this outside influence is coming from.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/new-trump-revelations-are-a-fecal-iceberg-that-will-only-lead-to-more-damning-info-rick-wilson/
Spurs Homer
01-15-2020, 09:00 PM
Is the world watching though? Most people will catch the recap on MSNBC or Fox News. I can't watch 9 hours of coverage after work. Fox News won't report anything damning.. They will talk about the evil Dems, and the flawed process. Our system is broken..
It is your responsibility.
It is my responsibility.
I dont rely on Fox news.
You dont rely on Fox news.
History will depict exactly what the evidence was. History will expose the 100 senators and chief justice and whatever they did and didnt do.
No one is forcing republicans to ignore facts- the evidence will not change but more damning evidence might still be unearthed.
The world is watching - and if you are not paying attention- it is irrelevant - history will expose your ignorance and disinterest or your involvement- for better or for worse.
Let the chips fall.
ElNono
01-15-2020, 09:52 PM
A undated handwritten note by a guy being tried for fraud that's already lied to the DOJ :lmao
The fact his counsel authenticated the note is >>>>>> random twiterazzi on the interwebs.
pgardn
01-15-2020, 10:03 PM
The fact his counsel authenticated the note is >>>>>> random twiterazzi on the interwebs.
Poor TSA
Chris
01-15-2020, 10:31 PM
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1217634848426397696?s=19
Chris
01-15-2020, 10:33 PM
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1217604924747460609?s=19
leave Hunter alone guys
Chris
01-15-2020, 10:35 PM
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1217630499277025280?s=19
eeeeyup
Chris
01-15-2020, 10:36 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1217603480879321089?s=19
:lmao
The fact his counsel authenticated the note is >>>>>> random twiterazzi on the interwebs.
Did his counsel also authenticate Nunes secret trip to Vienna? :rollin
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 10:50 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1217603480879321089?s=19
:lmaoWhen the shoe was on the other foot:
1217611403365961728
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 10:55 PM
Did his counsel also authenticate Nunes secret trip to Vienna? :rollinThere are about 1,000 emails, texts and docs not yet released.
If the Senate doubts corrobrating evidence, it can call witnesses central to the impeachment articles.
I bet Bolton, Giuliani, Pompeo, Barr, Nunes, Harvey and Mulvaney, to name a few, could clear up any uncertainties GOP Senators may have.
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 11:05 PM
Did his counsel also authenticate Nunes secret trip to Vienna? :rollinThe Ritz-Carlton Vienna is/was Dmitry Firtash's HQ. I wonder who all he was bankrolling besides Toensing/DiGenova.
boutons_deux
01-15-2020, 11:20 PM
Trump supporter implicated in surveillance effort against Yovanovitch was a ‘known stalker with mental health issues’
one of the key players in new revelations turned over to investigators by an associate of Rudy Giuliani “was a known stalker with mental health issues.”
Trump donor and aspiring GOP lawmaker Robert F. Hyde appear to show an effort to surveil former US ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.
“The startling messages show the extent to which the Giuliani associates were willing to at least entertain extreme tactics from a campaign donor who has courted controversy and even unsettled others, including fellow supporters of the president,”
police records show that Hyde “violated a restraining order issued by a Washington, DC superior court judge at the request of a Republican consultant who says that
Hyde stalked her and intimidated her family over the last year.”
Connecticut police “confiscated Hyde’s firearms in connection to his violation of the restraining order,”
Hyde was “reported to authorities for ‘unsettling behavior’ and trespassing at a church in Connecticut, according to a separate police report last summer.”
acquaintances of Hyde say he has a “history of erratic behavior.”
“Hyde publicized that he was placed in a psychiatric facility in Florida last May, following an incident at the Trump National Doral Miami resort,”
Hyde expressed fear for his life and told officers that
he ‘was scared due to several painting workers and landscape working trying to do harm to him because they weren’t working.'”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-supporter-implicated-in-surveillance-effort-against-yovanovitch-was-a-known-stalker-with-mental-health-issues-report/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-supporter-implicated-in-surveillance-effort-against-yovanovitch-was-a-known-stalker-with-mental-health-issues-report/)
-----------------
TRUMP SUPPORTER WHO DISCUSSED SURVEILLANCE OF AMBASSADOR MARIE YOVANOVITCH HAS HISTORY OF STALKING, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/15/trump-supporter-who-discussed-surveillance-of-ambassador-marie-yovanovitch-has-history-of-stalking-mental-health-issues/ (https://theintercept.com/2020/01/15/trump-supporter-who-discussed-surveillance-of-ambassador-marie-yovanovitch-has-history-of-stalking-mental-health-issues/)
The Best People, all around Trash, just the best.
Winehole23
01-15-2020, 11:20 PM
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1217630499277025280?s=19
eeeeyupIf that holds, then Mitch McConnell should recuse too. He said he'd coordinate with the White House.
Is that what an impartial juror does? Coordinate with the defendant?
spurraider21
01-15-2020, 11:30 PM
If that holds, then Mitch McConnell should recuse too. He said he'd coordinate with the White House.
Is that what an impartial juror does? Coordinate with the defendant?
McConnell straight up said there’s no duty for impartiality because this is a political function. Would also render these recusal requests moot
DarrinS
01-16-2020, 12:18 AM
:lol
1217612032276680705
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 12:21 AM
Lev Parnas: Devin Nunes was 'involved in getting all this stuff on Biden'
Lev Parnas said he was "in shock" when he saw Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) participating in President Trump's impeachment hearings late last year,
because he knew Nunes was linked to the very scandal that launched the inquiry.
he did not have "much of a relationship" with Nunes, but they did meet "several times" at a Trump hotel.
Nunes, Parnas explained, "was looking into this Ukraine stuff also, wanted to help out. And they gave me Derek Harvey to deal with."
he did not have to brief Harvey on Giuliani's attempts to dig up dirt in Ukraine on former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, because
Harvey "knew about it already. He had a lot of information already."
he set up Skype interviews between Harvey and Ukrainian prosecutors who claimed to have damaging information about Biden.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/889822/lev-parnas-devin-nunes-involved-getting-all-stuff-biden (https://theweek.com/speedreads/889822/lev-parnas-devin-nunes-involved-getting-all-stuff-biden)
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 12:22 AM
:lol
1217612032276680705
It is funny that no one got that right.
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 12:32 AM
Devin Nunes said he’d sue :lol
fellow Congressman after allegation
‘Nunes conspired with Parnas’
Nunes’ response to it was to threaten to sue his fellow Congressman if Lieu didn’t apologize.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/devin-nunes-said-hed-sue-fellow-congressman-after-allegation-nunes-conspired-with-parnas/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/devin-nunes-said-hed-sue-fellow-congressman-after-allegation-nunes-conspired-with-parnas/)
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 12:35 AM
Lev Parnas says Attorney General
William Barr was 'basically on the team' (https://theweek.com/speedreads/889820/lev-parnas-says-attorney-general-william-barr-basically-team)
Parnas told Maddow he was "involved" in conversations Giuliani and diGenova had with Attorney General William Barr, and
Barr "absolutely" knew of the effort to get Ukraine to announce the investigation.
"Mr. Barr had to have known everything," he said.
"Victoria, Joe, they were all best friends.
Attorney General Barr was basically on the team."
https://theweek.com/speedreads/889820/lev-parnas-says-attorney-general-william-barr-basically-team (https://theweek.com/speedreads/889820/lev-parnas-says-attorney-general-william-barr-basically-team)
boutons_deux
01-16-2020, 12:38 AM
Indicted Giuliani associate used pro-Trump super PAC official to forward Ukraine talking points to the president’s son
Lev Parnas is that he apparently forwarded talking points on Ukraine to Donald Trump, Jr. using Joseph Ahearn, the director of development for pro-Trump super PAC America First Action,
Ahearn also played a role in setting up a $325,000 payment from Parnas and his partner Igor Fruman to America First Action.
That payment is one of the campaign finance violations that led to Parnas and Fruman’s indictment.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/indicted-giuliani-associate-used-pro-trump-super-pac-official-to-forward-ukraine-talking-points-to-the-presidents-son-report/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/indicted-giuliani-associate-used-pro-trump-super-pac-official-to-forward-ukraine-talking-points-to-the-presidents-son-report/)
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 01:04 AM
:lol
1217612032276680705Taped months ago, but Darrin has his priorities.
Spurs Homer
01-16-2020, 01:08 AM
Parnas singing like a canary...
pos barr
pos trump
pos nunes
cue comrade TSA hustling in here with
parnas liar convict
lololol
djohn2oo8
01-16-2020, 01:09 AM
Apparently part two of his interview is tomorrow night
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 01:09 AM
Apparently part two of his interview is tomorrow nightAnderson Cooper?
Spurs Homer
01-16-2020, 01:14 AM
Barr needs to be impeached also
Chris
01-16-2020, 02:51 AM
USXOkMPBFKA
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 03:03 AM
What does McCarthy know?
1214392685592752128
1217703455332028416
1217655091307499521
ElNono
01-16-2020, 03:10 AM
Did his counsel also authenticate Nunes secret trip to Vienna? :rollin
Still don't know why you're laughing, this evidence comes from an actual subpoena. What's your conspiracy now? That Congress is planting fake evidence?
ElNono
01-16-2020, 03:13 AM
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1217630499277025280?s=19
eeeeyup
Yeah, not how it works. They wouldn't be replacing the current POTUS if he's removed, so the point is moot. Plus, this is not a judicial trial, but a political one, which is the main reason POTUS won't be removed.
spurraider21
01-16-2020, 03:19 AM
Yeah, not how it works. They wouldn't be replacing the current POTUS if he's removed, so the point is moot. Plus, this is not a judicial trial, but a political one, which is the main reason POTUS won't be removed.
i say we go down the rabbit hole. all dems and republicans have to recuse themselves because of bias.
leaves bernie
ElNono
01-16-2020, 03:26 AM
i say we go down the rabbit hole. all dems and republicans have to recuse themselves because of bias.
leaves bernie
https://media0.giphy.com/media/lPXUaJjasHxLIqBJNw/giphy.gif
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 03:38 AM
Still don't know why you're laughing, this evidence comes from an actual subpoena. What's your conspiracy now? That Congress is planting fake evidence?there's a parallel SDNY/FBI criminal track. Nunes is in it up to his neck.
https://www.newsweek.com/devin-nunes-spent-57000-flights-europe-allegedly-investigate-bidens-1473765
Chris
01-16-2020, 03:44 AM
They wouldn't be replacing the current POTUS if he's removed, so the point is moot.
No one claimed that George.
Your point is moot.
Chris
01-16-2020, 03:44 AM
i say we go down the rabbit hole. all dems and republicans have to recuse themselves because of bias.
leaves bernie
How about just the Senators running for POTUS.
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 04:04 AM
How about just the Senators running for POTUS.This isn't a legal proceeding, there's no need for anyone to recuse. It's an all hands on deck situation for both sides.
LkrFan
01-16-2020, 04:14 AM
https://twitter.com/minhtngo/status/1217719831069216770?s=19
Coincidence? Naaah :lol
Winehole23
01-16-2020, 04:17 AM
How about just the Senators running for POTUS.A fake scruple which, if applied, would weaken only one side.
How convenient. :lol
dbreiden83080
01-16-2020, 05:37 AM
It is your responsibility.
It is my responsibility.
I dont rely on Fox news.
You dont rely on Fox news.
History will depict exactly what the evidence was. History will expose the 100 senators and chief justice and whatever they did and didnt do.
No one is forcing republicans to ignore facts- the evidence will not change but more damning evidence might still be unearthed.
The world is watching - and if you are not paying attention- it is irrelevant - history will expose your ignorance and disinterest or your involvement- for better or for worse.
Let the chips fall.
If I have to watch 9 hours of coverage after I get home from work and the gym, getting to bed at like 2 AM each night.. Well I won't be.. Good Luck Dems..
Chris
01-16-2020, 05:44 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1217751533598756864?s=19
Spurs Homer
01-16-2020, 09:54 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1217751533598756864?s=19
1) No
2) No
1) there was a formal process that had already screened ukraine and Congress approved the money AFTER the ukraine had cleared ALL its hurdles and the funds were officially approved.
2) Biden followed official Govt policy and your premise is bullshit . Biden pushed for a prosecutor who followed the law - got rid of the corrupt one. Your cult leader WANTS the corrupt people there because then they will allow corruption like USA bribery & extortion from the Trump rogue criminals.
LkrFan
01-16-2020, 09:55 AM
https://twitter.com/ChrisVanHollen/status/1217821544245841923?s=19
SMH
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 09:56 AM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1217751533598756864?s=19
Trump didn't suspect corruption.
Joe Biden was not a corrupting influence.
Still don't know why you're laughing, this evidence comes from an actual subpoena. What's your conspiracy now? That Congress is planting fake evidence?
:lol Parnas good now
This evidence comes from a lying fraudster. When did he write the note? Be specific. Coming from a subpoena doesn't make the note true. Parnas is clearly trying to get a reduced sentence.
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 10:09 AM
Wow, TSA really hates Trump's associates who were just trying to do Trump's bidding.
Where's your loyalty, TSA?
there's a parallel SDNY/FBI criminal track. Nunes is in it up to his neck.
https://www.newsweek.com/devin-nunes-spent-57000-flights-europe-allegedly-investigate-bidens-1473765
omg there's a parallel SDNY/FBI criminal track :wow
links to a possible congressional ethics investigation :lol
ChumpDumper
01-16-2020, 10:16 AM
TSA, how many people around Trump need to be in legal jeopardy before you admit there MAY be a problem with the people Trump chose to put around him?
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