trump impeachment watch thread [Archive] - Page 21

pgardn

11-15-2019, 07:11 PM

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I almost feel bad for her getting drug into this. She perjured herself and had nothing to add as witness for the Dems.

“Do you have any information regarding the President of the United States accepting any bribes?” Republican Congressman Chris Stewart of Utah asked point blank.

“No,” Yovanovitch said.

“Do you have any information regarding any criminal activity that the President of the United States has been involved with at all?”

“No.”

Are you an idiot?
She was not questioned because she was gathering information on Trump asking a Foreign country to look into a political opponent.
If she had answered yes then we would have a story.

This is some of the worst deflecting we have ever witnessed.
Red team just swinging at imaginary bats in the belfry

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 07:13 PM

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pgardn

11-15-2019, 07:14 PM

Jim only source for blow job is a paid escort

Gym Jordan is well acquainted with accusations of blow jobs at Ohio State.

Reck

11-15-2019, 07:19 PM

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:lol TSA projecting as usual.

He thinks its the woman who lied under oath.

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 07:31 PM

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djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 07:39 PM

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djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 07:41 PM

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:lol

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 07:44 PM

Dijon setting himself up for another hiatus and therapy session. Poor soul. :lmao

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 07:46 PM

uh oh someone might have perjured themselves :lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1195485293702459392

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1195446982988455938

How did her lawyers let that go in her opening statement? :rollin

Why did she lie? What is she hiding?Actually the administration and the State Department can be two different things here.

Like I said. Probably not a lie.

Reck

11-15-2019, 07:47 PM

Dijon setting himself up for another hiatus and therapy session. Poor soul. :lmao

Says the guy who thinks the last two impeachment testimonies doesn't put Trump closer to impeachment. :lol

You live in a bubble.

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 07:49 PM

Dijon setting himself up for another hiatus and therapy session. Poor soul. :lmaoI guess, but this is roughly analogous to Richard Nixon's wearing a cowbell while breaking into the Watergate himself.

Nathan89

11-15-2019, 07:49 PM

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1195417919326498822?s=20

Thanks for your contribution.

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 07:50 PM

Says the guy who thinks the last two impeachment testimonies doesn't put Trump closer to impeachment. :lol

You live in a bubble.

He honest with yourself, Recky. What do you think is going to happen?

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 07:50 PM

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1195417919326498822?s=20

Thanks for your contribution.Why was she recalled, Nathan?

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 07:54 PM

He honest with yourself, Recky. What do you think is going to happen?
What do you think should happen?

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 07:56 PM

Why was she recalled, Nathan?

Evidently, NOT for knowing about any crimes by drumpf. :lmao

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 07:57 PM

Evidently, NOT for knowing about any crimes by drumpf. :lmao
Incorrect

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 07:57 PM

Evidently, NOT for knowing about any crimes by drumpf. :lmaoBut why was she recalled, Darrin?

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 07:57 PM

Darrin showing he has failed horribly at keeping up

koriwhat

11-15-2019, 07:58 PM

Thats not what you said before Kori.
Under his watch... Earthquakes happened as well.

You are done with me.

Again.

And you are a liar. You and I both know it.

nah i said what were your thoughts about spygate/russiagate under obamas tutelage and you dismissed my question so i'll dismiss yours from here on out too. :tu

Reck

11-15-2019, 07:59 PM

He honest with yourself, Recky. What do you think is going to happen?

Trump is as good as impeached in the House. If you cant see that its because you're a blind follower who thinks Trump is basically God.

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 07:59 PM

What do you think should happen?

If there is some evidence of a crime, which is not diplomats' "feelings" about gossip, then he should be impeached.

Otherwise, remove him at the ballot box.

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 08:00 PM

If there is some evidence of a crime, which is not diplomats' "feelings" about gossip, then he should be impeached.:lmao you haven't been paying attention today.

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 08:00 PM

If there is some evidence of a crime, which is not diplomats' "feelings" about gossip, then he should be impeached.

Otherwise, remove him at the ballot box.

do you know what testimony is? Btw, impeachment isn’t like the court of law.

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 08:01 PM

But why was she recalled, Darrin?

I've already answered this question.

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 08:01 PM

I've already answered this question.
You didn’t. Why was she fired?

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 08:01 PM

:lmao you haven't been paying attention today.

What was the evidence of a crime?

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 08:02 PM

I've already answered this question.Right. You said she was recalled and smeared by Giuliani and Jr. for no reason whatsoever.:tu

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 08:02 PM

You didn’t. Why was she fired?

I did answer. Perhaps you didn't like my answer.

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 08:03 PM

What was the evidence of a crime?Your master's voice.

http://petcaretips.net/his_masters_voice.jpg

koriwhat

11-15-2019, 08:04 PM

You didn’t. Why was she fired?

doesn't matter one bit... the president can fire her for whatever reason he'd like. it's comical how yall stupid lefty's think it's criminal to fire an employee just like yall made a stink about comey's firing but not previous firings under other admins. yall are fucking snakes on the left!

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 08:05 PM

What was the evidence of a crime?
Aid being held up. Read the memo Darrin.

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 08:05 PM

I don't know. Maybe he wanted someone else. Who cares?

Right. You said she was recalled and smeared by Giuliani and Jr. for no reason whatsoever.:tu

I did answer. Perhaps you didn't like my answer.

Chump making up Schiff

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 08:05 PM

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 08:06 PM

Aid being held up. Read the memo Darrin.

What is the crime?

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 08:06 PM

Bribery is an impeachable offense Darrin

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 08:06 PM

Chump making up SchiffYou couldn't think of a good reason.

No good reason.

Can you think of a possible good reason, Darrin?

What could it possibly be?

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 08:07 PM

What is the crime?Bribery. It's right there in the Constitution you don't give a shit about.

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors.

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 08:09 PM

Bribery is an impeachable offense Darrin

Good luck with that

koriwhat

11-15-2019, 08:09 PM

Actually it does. Why was she fired?

read up bud :tu

NYPOST (https://nypost.com/2019/11/15/yanovich-testimony-offers-no-impeachment-evidence/)

LkrFan

11-15-2019, 08:09 PM

https://twitter.com/TrisResists/status/1195502054342574080?s=19

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 08:10 PM

Good luck with thatI'm sure the Republicans probably don't give a shit about the Constitution either.

I'll ask you since all the other Trumpistas have shit themselves: What is your perfectly innocent and legal narrative of the events here?

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 08:19 PM

I'm sure the Republicans probably don't give a shit about the Constitution either.

I'll ask you since all the other Trumpistas have shit themselves: What is your perfectly innocent and legal narrative of the events here?

Do you have any information regarding the President of the United States accepting any bribes?” Republican Congressman Chris Stewart of Utah asked point blank.

“No,” Yovanovitch said.

Just ask every "witness" this question, tbh. :lol

Maybe she was intimidated, tho. :lol

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 08:24 PM

Do you have any information regarding the President of the United States accepting any bribes?” Republican Congressman Chris Stewart of Utah asked point blank.

“No,” Yovanovitch said.

Just ask every "witness" this question, tbh. :lol

Maybe she was intimidated, tho. :lolTrump is doing the bribing here, Darrin.

Do you know how bribery works, Darrin?

Maybe you're intimidated, tho.

What is your perfectly normal and legal narrative for these events, Darrin?

pgardn

11-15-2019, 08:27 PM

doesn't matter one bit... the president can fire her for whatever reason he'd like. it's comical how yall stupid lefty's think it's criminal to fire an employee just like yall made a stink about comey's firing but not previous firings under other admins. yall are fucking snakes on the left!

Of course he can.
And thats exactly what he should have done, not said a thing.
But he understood it would be easier to have someone to go along with him asking a foreign country to help him during an election.
In other words, a diplomat for his CAMPAIGN. That, you dont do. Diplomats serve his wishes as to how to proceed dealing with a foreign country for the benefit of the people of the United States.

Not his fckn campaign! you twit.

This is why you are so lost. You dont get what he is using the federal government for. Re election. USA, USA my ass. Trump has already been warned not to ask federal employees to work to on his campaign thus tax payer money, for his re election dumbass.

Trill Clinton

11-15-2019, 08:30 PM

https://twitter.com/TrisResists/status/1195502054342574080?s=19

Damn lol

koriwhat

11-15-2019, 08:31 PM

Of course he can.
And thats exactly what he should have done, not said a thing.
But he understood it would be easier to have someone to go along with him asking a foreign country to help him during an election.
In other words, a diplomat for his CAMPAIGN. That, you dont do. Diplomats serve his wishes as to how to proceed dealing with a foreign country for the benefit of the people of the United States.

Not his fckn campaign! you twit.

This is why you are so lost. You dont get what he is using the federal government for. Re election. USA, USA my ass. Trump has already been warned not to ask federal employees to work to on his campaign thus tax payer money, for his re election dumbass.

we'll just have to see where the chips fall... :tu

all yalls DING DING DING moments have been total duds and this is no different. 2020 is around the bend, you going to continue to cry til 2024?

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 08:32 PM

What is your perfectly normal and legal narrative for these events, Darrin?

That's not how it works. The burden is on the house dems to show a crime was committed. If just making the accusation is enough, then that is a pathetically low bar.

Dems chose to do this along strictly partisan lines.

Good luck with that.

koriwhat

11-15-2019, 08:34 PM

https://twitter.com/TrisResists/status/1195502054342574080?s=19

the imposter herself with her fake tits, fake face, fake teeth, and fake SoTH status... that crypt creeper needs to be ousted already.

you prop that bitch up as if she's ever done 1 good thing in office ever. that bitch is nothing but a crook.

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 08:35 PM

That's not how it works.Of course it is.

We're on a message board.

I am asking you what the perfectly normal legal narrative is for these events.

Frankly I can find none. All the available evidence points towards the crime of bribery. Dennison is doing his best to hide any other evidence, which itself points towards his guilt.

You can just say you feel intimidated by my simple question, Darrin. All the Trump supporters here are.

pgardn

11-15-2019, 08:37 PM

we'll just have to see where the chips fall... :tu

all yalls DING DING DING moments have been total duds and this is no different. 2020 is around the bend, you going to continue to cry til 2024?

Hes gonna go down hard and possible so hard that a far lefty takes over and pushes anything they can to the limit.
You want it to swing way left as hard as possible?
Well this is how you do it. Abuse your position for your own purposes. A king taking money from servants.

koriwhat

11-15-2019, 08:40 PM

Well this is how you do it. Abuse your position for your own purposes. A king taking money from servants.

you keep describing obama for some reason... however, you still won't acknowledge spygate/russiagate being ran under his watch to spy on a presidential candidate and god knows who else among us peasants.

as well, i hope the left burns in hell!

pgardn

11-15-2019, 08:42 PM

we'll just have to see where the chips fall... :tu

all yalls DING DING DING moments have been total duds and this is no different. 2020 is around the bend, you going to continue to cry til 2024?

ding ding moments...

You would not know what a real moment is because you have not clue as to why we dont ask foreign countries to interfere in OUR elections.
All you far right retards railing against globalists and you have a guy asking foreign governments to help decide our elections... honest to god...

We deserve Trump if he gets voted in 2020. We deserve his son for 8 years after that, and then his daughter for 8 years. Just start a bloodline British style. Then we can forget why we broke off from Europe in the first place.

koriwhat

11-15-2019, 08:43 PM

You would not know what a real moment is because you have not clue as to why we dont ask foreign countries to interfere in OUR elections.

and there it is again... still talking about obama but won't say his name. :tu

pgardn

11-15-2019, 08:44 PM

you keep describing obama for some reason... however, you still won't acknowledge spygate/russiagate being ran under his watch to spy on a presidential candidate and god knows who else among us peasants.

as well, i hope the left burns in hell!

You dont have a clue what you are writing about.

Seriously I need any link you got. Potential presidential candidates ALL come under scrutiny of our security services. ALL of them.
Is Obama really a US citizen?

pgardn

11-15-2019, 08:46 PM

and there it is again... still talking about obama but won't say his name. :tu

Trump is the president.
You think Obama asked foreign countries to help him get re elected.
What are you reading?

koriwhat

11-15-2019, 08:51 PM

Is Obama really a US citizen?

sure, why not. as if i know anyhow... i don't know obama personally and he's never showed me his birth certificate so wtf do i know about where he was born. i'll say sure because i don't know any different. i'm no sheriff joe arpaio.

Trump is the president.
You think Obama asked foreign countries to help him get re elected.
What are you reading?

what i am getting at is what you refuse to answer... spygate/russiagate happened on obamas watch and 5 eyes were involved. re-election or not i am speaking of our past patsy pres sicking the world on a dude that wasn't in his inner circle in order to derail is campaign and presidency. it's cool if you want to keep beating around the bush though.

Chris

11-15-2019, 08:52 PM

They trollin bro

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 09:06 PM

That's not how it works. The burden is on the house dems to show a crime was committed. If just making the accusation is enough, then that is a pathetically low bar.

Dems chose to do this along strictly partisan lines.

Good luck with that.Impeachment isn't a criminal process but a political one. The penalty is removal from office.

That's as designed.

No crime need be alleged or proven, but the impeaching body has to face the electorate. That's their moment of truth and validity, for or against.

Vote your conscience, but face the voters.

Chris

11-15-2019, 09:07 PM

Impeachment isn't a criminal process, but a political one. The penalty is removal from office.

That's as designed.

No crime need be alleged or proven, but the impeaching body has to face the electorate. That's their moment of truth and validity, for or against.

Vote your conscience, but face the voters.

Good thing it's going to be DOA :)

pgardn

11-15-2019, 09:07 PM

sure, why not. as if i know anyhow... i don't know obama personally and he's never showed me his birth certificate so wtf do i know about where he was born. i'll say sure because i don't know any different. i'm no sheriff joe arpaio.

what i am getting at is what you refuse to answer... spygate/russiagate happened on obamas watch and 5 eyes were involved. re-election or not i am speaking of our past patsy pres sicking the world on a dude that wasn't in his inner circle in order to derail is campaign and presidency. it's cool if you want to keep beating around the bush though.

Yeah sure Kori.

I mean how do you know for sure the Earth is round? You have never been in space to look at the Earth. The pictures are all flat and faked. Dude? How do we know anything? How do we decide to believe what we do? I mean you dont know any different. They are all fooling you.

I need a link or start another thread on Obama. I have no idea what you are talking about. Again, our intelligence agencies look into ALL potential candidates. You think Obama went further then show me WHY you believe this. Link to something. Otherwise you are talking out of your ass as usual. I have seen no credible evidence that Obama did any such thing. I have linked you to Donald Trump putting out a summary of Donald Trump trying to convince a foreign government to interfere in our elections. There is a huge difference between you and I. I dont just dream things up in my head.

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 09:09 PM

Good thing it's going to be DOA :)We'll see. Trump can hardly survive many more victories like he's had this week.

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 09:09 PM

Good thing it's going to be DOA :)Because Senate Republicans already have their minds made up?

Sounds like a conspiracy tbh.

pgardn

11-15-2019, 09:10 PM

Good thing it's going to be DOA :)

Not in the House.
In the Senate, yep.

And then we will see the vote in 2020.
Precedent will have been set. Presidents will have enormous power to use the federal government for their own re elections. And then maybe their relatives.
If your orange king wins.

ducks

11-15-2019, 09:16 PM

Bribery is an impeachable offense Darrin

Where was the bribe !
The bribe money to Clinton foundation
Now you see Clinton

ChumpDumper

11-15-2019, 09:17 PM

Where was the bribe !The military aid and high level visits.

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 09:19 PM

An official act rendered or withheld, or otherwise compelled for a corrupt purpose would be called what, in everyday language?

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 09:28 PM

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djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 09:31 PM

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Chris

11-15-2019, 09:38 PM

Bend over, I'll show you a secret mission.

ducks

11-15-2019, 09:47 PM

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/impeachment-poll-trump-back-up-to-50?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

Impeachment poll: Trump's approval rating back up to 50%

44 was 49
Lol

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 09:52 PM

How can the Titanic be sinking if we are way up in the air?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTOwP7pUMAEsISg.jpg
(https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjs07zC3O3lAhUE-6wKHdqUBdYQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fmralancooper%2Fsta tus%2F951297882165952512&psig=AOvVaw2d8DWXa__OSCICR-HPb59w&ust=1573959028530613)

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 09:55 PM

An official act rendered or withheld, or otherwise compelled for a corrupt purpose, would be called what in everyday language?

LkrFan

11-15-2019, 09:55 PM

Bend over, I'll show you a secret mission.

:lol

Chris

11-15-2019, 09:57 PM

Winehole23

Trump sets foreign policy.

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 10:01 PM

Winehole23 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14613)

Trump sets foreign policy.with the advice and consent of the Senate, and only so long as the people may suffer him to remain in office, of course.

djohn2oo8

11-15-2019, 10:03 PM

Winehole23 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14613)

Trump sets foreign policy.
The constitution regulates bribery.

Chris

11-15-2019, 10:03 PM

with the advice and consent of the Senate, so long as the people may suffer him, of course.

50% approval rating saavy?

pgardn

11-15-2019, 10:04 PM

Winehole23 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14613)

Trump sets foreign policy.

Foreign Policy should not be made to assure his re election.

Chris

11-15-2019, 10:04 PM

The constitution regulates bribery.

I can understand that language considering quid pro quo lacked the proper teeth fot public outrage.

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 10:04 PM

50% approval rating saavy?lol polling

the polls are not the people's political representatives, elected representatives are.

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 10:06 PM

Foreign Policy should not be made to assure his re election."Too-shay"

DarrinS

11-15-2019, 10:12 PM

An official act rendered or withheld, or otherwise compelled for a corrupt purpose would be called what, in everyday language?

There's the rub

Chris

11-15-2019, 10:18 PM

Foreign Policy should not be made to assure his re election.

Pretty sure that wasn't the motive, but I doubt you could see it any other way at this point.

You're all-in.

Chris

11-15-2019, 10:19 PM

lol polling

the polls are not the people's political representatives, elected representatives are.

How else would quantify the so called "suffering"?

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 10:20 PM

There's the rubYep

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/15/politics/parnas-trump-special-mission-ukraine/index.html

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 10:21 PM

How else would quantify the so called "suffering"?Voting to impeach and remove would be one way.

Votng for someone else in the general election would be another.

Chris

11-15-2019, 10:23 PM

Voting to impeach and remove.

You were talking about the "people" though. Do I get to vote on impeach and remove?

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 10:25 PM

You were talking about the "people" though. Do I get to vote on impeach and remove?You vote or don't vote for the people who take the vote. That's how our system works. The USA is a constitutional republic, not a direct democracy.

Chris

11-15-2019, 10:30 PM

You vote or don't vote for the people who take the vote. That's how our system works. The USA is a constitutional republic, not a direct democracy.

That was a rhetorical question, but thanks for the refresher on basic politics 101. Next time just admit you messed up, and we can move on.

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 10:50 PM

For all the world it looked like a direct reply, silly Chris, how was I to know you were talking to yourself?

:lol

ducks

11-15-2019, 11:10 PM

If President Rogers tells his staff he wants to support billions in infrastructure for Michigan because it will help his re-election, is that bribery?

pgardn

11-15-2019, 11:26 PM

If President Rogers tells his staff he wants to support billions in infrastructure for Michigan because it will help his re-election, is that bribery?

And it will help his re election because it will help the US. Yeah sure ducks. Good.

But we have a president who has asked a foreign country to aide in his re election. It DOES NOT help the US to ask foreign countries to help us to decide who to elect. How dull does the red team have to be that this continues to escape them?

benefactor

11-15-2019, 11:26 PM

If President Rogers tells his staff he wants to support billions in infrastructure for Michigan because it will help his re-election, is that bribery?
Shut up, stupid

Winehole23

11-15-2019, 11:32 PM

lol

1195470014503161862

pgardn

11-15-2019, 11:34 PM

Pretty sure that wasn't the motive, but I doubt you could see it any other way at this point.

You're all-in.

Oh sure thing.

Trump has already said he does not care about Ukraine (talk a little loud over the phone) AND more importantly, out of all the corruption that was/is going on in Ukraine he asks for THE BIDEN’s role? He does not give 2 shits about Ukraine but Congress and Republicans do. But not at the expense of losing the election in 2020. That’s what we now see. Re election over country.

The patriots who get mad at people who don’t stand during the national anthem. The red team has lost their bearings and is becoming a joke. We love our country... B fckn S

pgardn

11-15-2019, 11:34 PM

pgardn

11-15-2019, 11:36 PM

Hell my iPad will say it twice for me.

ducks

11-15-2019, 11:42 PM

ABC News correspondent: Yovanovitch 'did not really get us any closer' to proving Trump committed impeachable offense

baseline bum

11-15-2019, 11:57 PM

ABC News correspondent: Yovanovitch 'did not really get us any closer' to proving Trump committed impeachable offense

Remember when getting blown was an impeachable offense?

Chris

11-16-2019, 12:04 AM

#StillWithHim :lol

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 12:52 AM

ABC News correspondent: Yovanovitch 'did not really get us any closer' to proving Trump committed impeachable offenseProving an impeachable offense wasn't what Yovanovitch's testimony was about.

What Yovanovitch's testimony was about was the collerateral damage of DJT's criming in Ukraine: US interests, US credibility, institutional norms, relations with Ukraine and Yovanovitch herself.

Chris

11-16-2019, 04:41 AM

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1195573352771006464?s=19

called that shit

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 11:50 AM

There's the rubYep.

https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/1195663242414215168?s=19

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 12:12 PM

Yep.

https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/1195663242414215168?s=19It's hilarious that Trump worshipers like Darrin try to hide behind quasi-legal argumentation when the simple truth is there is no good, just, aboveboard explanation for Trump's actions RE: Ukraine. They can be called on it every time and every time they will try to swerve out of it.

They can't.

There is only one narrative. Trump committed impeachable acts. And he was incredibly stupid about it. The only smart thing he did was count on the support of rubes like TSA, Qhris, Darrin, et.al., because they hate Democrats more than they love the USA.

Chris

11-16-2019, 12:15 PM

poor fella can't embed, no wonder he gets triggered by tweets :lol

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 12:22 PM

If ham-fisted corruption like this isn't impeachable, I'm not sure what is.

The GOP's unprincipled loyalty to DJT does them little credit.

Chris

11-16-2019, 12:23 PM

If ham-fisted corruption like this isn't impeachable, I'm not sure what is.

The GOP's unprincipled loyalty to DJT does them little credit.

There's no there there.

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 12:24 PM

poor fella can't embed, no wonder he gets triggered by tweets :lolSometimes I embed, sometimes I don't.

I don't like the look of a wall of tweets on the page, so rather than post the whole thread here, I link to it.

You should try it sometime.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 12:26 PM

There's no there there.You already failed to provide a plausible alternative narrative.

You got nothing. Or rather your twitter puppetmasters have nothing to give you but snark and victim declarations.

Chris

11-16-2019, 12:27 PM

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1195573352771006464?s=19

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 12:27 PM

Sometimes I embed, sometimes I don't.

AI don't lile the look of a wall of tweets on the page, so rather than post the whole thread here, I link to it.

You might try it sometime.Eh, he's just wounded so he's trying to distract from the actual content.

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 12:29 PM

There's no there there.ok, Mr. Magoo

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 12:30 PM

:lol Qhris immediately posts a victim declaration from twitter.

Chris

11-16-2019, 12:35 PM

There's no there there.

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1195734549017354240?s=19

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 12:38 PM

:lol Qhris has a new mantra.

Yes, there is a there there. Dennison pointed it out with his own document release and yelled about it through an unsecured cell phone.

Sorry.

You know there is no innocent explanation. That's why you've been reduced to mantras, deflections and snark.

Chris

11-16-2019, 12:42 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1195727879780360193?s=19

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 12:42 PM

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1195573352771006464?s=19

called that shitBarr essentially argues in this speech that POTUS is an elected monarch who should be who should be free of any limitation or oversight by coordinate branches of government.

Small wonder you'd be a fan of that.

Chris

11-16-2019, 12:46 PM

"The coup has started"

"insurance policy"

"we're gonna impeach the motherfucker!"

Winetroll: "Oversight"

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 12:48 PM

:lol Victim declaration after victim declaration.

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 12:52 PM

"The coup has started"

"insurance policy"

"we're gonna impeach the motherfucker!"

Winetroll: "Oversight"The criming started.before inauguration day,. Even inauguration day itself was a family grift.

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 12:53 PM

Congressional oversight isn't a coup.

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 01:10 PM

I do agree with Jeet Heer that that centering foreign policy consensus is a red herring:

Trump should not be impeached because he upset the national security establishment. Presidents have not just the right to disregard that establishment but, in fact, would usually be wise to do so. Nor should Trump be impeached because he undermined a Ukraine policy that has bipartisan support. After all, outside the consensus in Washington, there are many others who disagree with that policy. Even the fact that Trump runs a messy White House where goons like Giuliani are elbowing career diplomats isn’t really a good reason to impeach him. Giuliani is repugnant, but there’s ample precedent for a White House with private back channels. During the Kennedy administration, the president’s brother Robert Kennedy used a back channel with the USSR to help de-escalate during the Cuban missile crisis.

Regarding Ukraine, the most valid ground to impeach Trump is that he used his office for a corrupt purpose, to get a foreign government to slime a rival politician. That’s the offense that merits a constitutional rebuke and removal.https://www.thenation.com/article/kent-taylor-impeachment-ukraine/

benefactor

11-16-2019, 01:33 PM

:lol coup

Blake

11-16-2019, 01:50 PM

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1195734549017354240?s=19

Do you get paid for your white house bootlicker role?

Blake

11-16-2019, 01:52 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1195727879780360193?s=19

:lmao quoting Rush Limbaugh's gushing fandom :lol

Trill Clinton

11-16-2019, 01:53 PM

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1195573352771006464?s=19

called that shit

You called for an L? Here you go

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Winehole23

11-16-2019, 02:10 PM

The point of the exercise is to define (R)s as the embodiment of law and order and liberals as sick and rwisted subverters of the same.

Power is legitimate only when (R)s have it.

Chris

11-16-2019, 02:28 PM

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1195776088800018432?s=19

D
O
A

Chris

11-16-2019, 02:29 PM

The point of the exercise is to define (R)s as the embodiment of law and order and liberals as sick and rwisted subverters of the same.

Power is legitimate only when (R)s have it.

https://twitter.com/RepDougCollins/status/1189938237520912385?s=19

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 02:31 PM

Him and Chris are waiting for Posobiec to tell them what to tweet next.called it

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 02:33 PM

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1195776088800018432?s=19

D
O
A:lol changes nothing

boutons_deux

11-16-2019, 02:34 PM

‘Blather and hysteria’:

Conservative columnist explains why GOP anti-impeachment ‘antics’ just crashed and burned

The public impeachment hearings, Rubin noted, “seek to establish whether President Trump bribed a foreign power to help him smear a political rival”: former Vice President Joe Biden — and

Schiff “outlined the basic factual narrative” and

the “facts that Republicans have yet to contradict, let alone disprove.”

“Nunes ignored the factual account Schiff laid out, and

the contrast between the two sides — one relying on facts, and the other resorting to blather and hysteria — was clear,” Rubin asserts.

“The complete absence of any factual or legal defense (of Trump) was telling.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/blather-and-hysteria-conservative-columnist-explains-why-gop-anti-impeachment-antics-just-crashed-and-burned/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/13/what-we-learned-opening-impeachment-hearings-new-factual-bombshell/

Chris

11-16-2019, 02:35 PM

too ez to go yahd

MultiTroll

11-16-2019, 02:36 PM

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1195734549017354240?s=19
:lol
Huge cup of STFU delivered.
But the drama queens will fag on, because they are stho outraged over the *crimes* DJT committed.

FOH.

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 02:44 PM

https://twitter.com/RepDougCollins/status/1189938237520912385?s=19Propaganda Chris spreading falsehoods, as usual.

"What is the impeachment of Andrew Johnson?"

Chris

11-16-2019, 02:55 PM

Propaganda Chris spreading falsehoods, as usual.

"What is the impeachment of Andrew Johnson?"

Modern history Pleb.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 02:58 PM

How many others have there been?

One?

Nixon resigned.

Chris

11-16-2019, 02:58 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/YHYmMLkOmqoo/giphy.gif

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 03:02 PM

More snark. More victim declarations.No substance.

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 03:03 PM

Modern history Pleb.US history, profe. Doug Collins is ignorant of it.

Chris

11-16-2019, 03:09 PM

US history, profe. Doug Collins is ignorant of it.

Learn to read is thanks.

benefactor

11-16-2019, 03:16 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/YHYmMLkOmqoo/giphy.gif
Troll thing tbh

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 03:27 PM

Learn to read is thanks.
Chris falling apart, barely makes sense.

thispego

11-16-2019, 03:31 PM

baseline bum

11-16-2019, 03:34 PM

Reck

11-16-2019, 03:55 PM

:lmao Chris the last few pages. :lmao

djohn2oo8

11-16-2019, 04:05 PM

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djohn2oo8

11-16-2019, 04:13 PM

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djohn2oo8

11-16-2019, 04:25 PM

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djohn2oo8

11-16-2019, 04:29 PM

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Blake

11-16-2019, 04:37 PM

I don't know if someone else posted this but lol Fox News starting to turn on Trump

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djohn2oo8

11-16-2019, 05:00 PM

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djohn2oo8

11-16-2019, 05:05 PM

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djohn2oo8

11-16-2019, 05:06 PM

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djohn2oo8

11-16-2019, 05:13 PM

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Spurs Homer

11-16-2019, 07:30 PM

Alright. Give me the rundown. I only listen to the Republican side on the radio. Limbaugh, Hanity, Levin got me convinced Trump did nothing wrong. I read Political subs on Reddit and you know what their stance is :rolleyes. Dems seem to be throwing shit at the wall and praying that something sticks. Russia, collusion, obstruction, now Ukraine. I want to hear a Democratic view that is not batshit crazy like douchey Reddit libs

I'll boil it down for you - even though you are just trolling;

Extortion = No 400 million $$ in defense aid - unless you smear Biden and exonerate Putin

Bribery = You help me cheat to win 2020 election & I'll help you defend your country against Russia

indisputable and corroborated many times over.

thispego

11-16-2019, 07:54 PM

I'll boil it down for you - even though you are just trolling;

Extortion = No 400 million $$ in defense aid - unless you smear Biden and exonerate Putin

Bribery = You help me cheat to win 2020 election & I'll help you defend your country against Russia

indisputable and corroborated many times over.

Not trolling. When and where did he ask smear biden and “exonerate putin” (Wtf?)? In the call transcript he asked for an investigation in to Bidens spurred by bidens open admission that he quid pro qoud over the 1.5 billion to fire the attorney. That’s reasonable. Trump is being persecuted by Dems and he wants the investigations to go both ways. Why shouldn’t they?

Trump didn’t need to cheat to win 2016 and he doesn’t need to cheat to win 2020. He’s done well as president, despite the resistance of the dems. How is any of dems allegations indisputable or corroborated? Can’t just say you saw it on CNN.

Spurs Homer

11-16-2019, 08:09 PM

Not trolling. When and where did he ask smear biden and “exonerate putin” (Wtf?)? In the call transcript he asked for an investigation in to Bidens spurred by bidens open admission that he quid pro qoud over the 1.5 billion to fire the attorney. That’s reasonable. Trump is being persecuted by Dems and he wants the investigations to go both ways. Why shouldn’t they?

Trump didn’t need to cheat to win 2016 and he doesn’t need to cheat to win 2020. He’s done well as president, despite the resistance of the dems. How is any of dems allegations indisputable or corroborated? Can’t just say you saw it on CNN.

Trump asked zelensky - to investigate the bidens and the FACT is that there is ZERO evidence of any biden wrongdoing - so trump is asking a foreign country to MAKE UP SHIT (like he did with russia in 2016)-
and investigate an american citizen - just like he did in 2016 -

get this in your fucking brain: biden asked to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor who FAILED to investigate corruption - you get that?
the corrupt prosecutor was REFUSING to do his job

trump and the right brainwashed you to think biden did the opposite - fire a guy that might be investigating his sons company and you stupidly swallowed it whole

The whistleblower reported wrongdoing because he/she is a patriot and listed names of people who might have information to corroborate

the dems opened an investigation rightfully and summoned all the people the WB named and so far they have corroborated pretty much everything the WB legally alleged

the LAW protects any american citizen from retaliation in order to encourage honest people to report crimes from dishonest criminals like trump and it should outrage every american that this con man and his complicit enablers are attacking the honest patriot

in order to be complicit in crimes from the piece of shit traitor who cheats on elections by asking foreign countries to meddle in our elections.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 08:18 PM

thispego

11-16-2019, 08:30 PM

Trump asked zelensky - to investigate the bidens and the FACT is that there is ZERO evidence of any biden wrongdoing - so trump is asking a foreign country to MAKE UP SHIT (like he did with russia in 2016)-
and investigate an american citizen - just like he did in 2016 -

get this in your fucking brain: biden asked to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor who FAILED to investigate corruption - you get that?
the corrupt prosecutor was REFUSING to do his job

trump and the right brainwashed you to think biden did the opposite - fire a guy that might be investigating his sons company and you stupidly swallowed it whole

The whistleblower reported wrongdoing because he/she is a patriot and listed names of people who might have information to corroborate

the dems opened an investigation rightfully and summoned all the people the WB named and so far they have corroborated pretty much everything the WB legally alleged

the LAW protects any american citizen from retaliation in order to encourage honest people to report crimes from dishonest criminals like trump and it should outrage every american that this con man and his complicit enablers are attacking the honest patriot

in order to be complicit in crimes from the piece of shit traitor who cheats on elections by asking foreign countries to meddle in our elections.

Damn bro, calm down. Can you site sources for your claims? You sound like a redditor inflamed by the partisan hogwash cnn feeds them :lol

djohn2oo8

11-16-2019, 08:37 PM

Trump had an unplanned visit to Walter Reed. Either he is sick or prepping his “medical” resignation.

thispego

11-16-2019, 08:41 PM

And let's be clear. Trump wanted a public announcement of an investigation into Biden and his son on US national TV. Sondland will confirm this.

You can argue that he didn't need to do it to win in 2020. I agree. Nixon didn't have to orchestrate and cover up a break-in at the DNC to win in '72 either.

But it happened.

Similar to the public spectacles launched against kavanaugh and trump? Trump does dabble in tit for tat. Honestly I’d be pissed to be muckraked over false allegations like these men as well. Biden quid pro quod pretty hard with Ukraine, seems like a logical place to start

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 08:44 PM

Similar to the public spectacles launched against kavanaugh and trump? No.

Trump's own appointees are testifying against him, among others.

thispego

11-16-2019, 08:49 PM

No.

Trump's own appointees are testifying against him, among others.

Chump - I haven’t followed the impeachment proceedings closely - are there any appointees testifying that have not been dismissed in the last 36 months? (ie disgruntled ex employees)

And if so, what is their testimony? What did they say happened?

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 09:15 PM

Chump - I haven’t followed the impeachment proceedings closely - are there any appointees testifying that have not been dismissed in the last 36 months? (ie disgruntled ex employees)

And if so, what is their testimony? What did they say happened?There are current appointees and employees and military officers testifying. Some have resigned. Some have been reassigned. None have been fired to my knowledge but I could be wrong.

And are you really asking for a summation of 2600 pages of deposition and a dozen hours of public testimony?

My biased opinion is that Trump and his cronies orchestrated a bribery/extortion plot withholding military aid to the Ukraine unless they publicly announced investigations into Biden, his son and the DNC's tech company. The witnesses have been providing evidence of this among other things, but that's the main thing.

The witnesses are credible IMO. One of the complaints is that a lot of when they presented is hearsay. That's mostly because the actual people who said these things refuse or have been ordered by Trump to not testify. There is no innocent explanation for Trump's actions or those of the people carrying out this scheme. The facts being testified to simply aren't being challenged.

thispego

11-16-2019, 09:24 PM

There are current appointees and employees and military officers testifying. Some have resigned. Some have been reassigned. None have been fired to my knowledge but I could be wrong.

And are you really asking for a summation of 2600 pages of deposition and a dozen hours of public testimony?

My biased opinion is that Trump and his cronies orchestrated a bribery/extortion plot withholding military aid to the Ukraine unless they publicly announced investigations into Biden, his son and the DNC's tech company. The witnesses have been providing evidence of this among other things, but that's the main thing.

The witnesses are credible IMO. One of the complaints is that a lot of when they presented is hearsay. That's mostly because the actual people who said these things refuse or have been ordered by Trump to not testify. There is no innocent explanation for Trump's actions or those of the people carrying out this scheme. The facts being testified to simply aren't being challenged.

Nah I just am curious if there have been any highlights or bombshells that would justify this impeachment. All I’ve heard is hearsay testimony. Is there anything you see wrong with Jim Jordan’s timeline/explanation of the alleged withholding of military aid?

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 09:25 PM

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 09:27 PM

Nah I just am curious if there have been any highlights or bombshells that would justify this impeachment. All I’ve heard is hearsay testimony. Is there anything you see wrong with Jim Jordan’s timeline/explanation of the alleged withholding of military aid?The aid that was only released once the whistleblower's report became known?

Yeah, he missed that little tidbit.

The whistleblower seems to be the only thing that kept this plot from coming to fruition.

And I told you the reason for the hearsay. I would probably brush up on the hearsay exceptions if you want to use that to defend Trump and co.

thispego

11-16-2019, 09:35 PM

The aid that was only released once the whistleblower's report became known?

Yeah, he missed that little tidbit.

The whistleblower seems to be the only thing that kept this plot from coming to fruition.

And I told you the reason for the hearsay. I would probably brush up on the hearsay exceptions if you want to use that to defend Trump and co.

Do you not believe that the aid was originally held up for the white house to determine whether or not corruption still existed with the new Ukrainian leadership? Is it not true that Ukraine didn’t even know about the aid or it being withheld?

thispego

11-16-2019, 09:39 PM

And if you're a Trump supporter, you're probably never going to concede he could possibly do anything to deserve impeachment. That's fine-- pretty much how politics go these days. In my opinion Trump's actions are worse than Nixon's during Watergate (Nixon did worse shit to win the 68 election but that was covered up by evevryone). The one redeeming quality of Nixon's was his deep sense of shame that actually caught up with him. There is no such quality in Trump, nor in many of his followers.

So here we are.

If Trump has done anything wrong, I believe that he feels justified in doing so only because he is repeating the actions of his predecessors. He’s not done employed any tactics that have no been employed against him, in other words.

I’m no Trumpsucker, but I say let a duly elected president do the job instead of trying to incriminate and impeach him from day 1

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 09:46 PM

Do you not believe that the aid was originally held up for the white house to determine whether or not corruption still existed with the new Ukrainian leadership?No. I don't believe that. The DoD had already acknowledged Ukraine had made adequate progress regarding corruption in May.

Is it not true that Ukraine didn’t even know about the aid or it being withheld?Not true. The New York Times reported they knew about the holdup in August.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 09:46 PM

If Trump has done anything wrong, I believe that he feels justified in doing so only because he is repeating the actions of his predecessors. He’s not done employed any tactics that have no been employed against him, in other words.What other president has done this?

thispego

11-16-2019, 09:52 PM

No. I don't believe that. The DoD had already acknowledged Ukraine had made adequate progress regarding corruption in May.

Not true. The New York Times reported they knew about the holdup in August.

The New York Times? :lol

Is that the only source claiming this?

thispego

11-16-2019, 09:53 PM

What other president has done this?

What other President has had to endure this kind of persecution? (Imagine for a second he is actually innocent of any actual unlawful wrongdoings)

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 09:54 PM

The New York Times? :lol

Is that the only source claiming this?They're no Breitbart, I suppose.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 09:55 PM

What other President has had to endure this kind of persecution? (Imagine for a second he is actually innocent of any actual unlawful wrongdoings)Clinton was impeached and put on trial.

Sorry, you made a claim that other presidents did what Trump is accused of doing.

What other president has done what Trump is accused of doing?

Blake

11-16-2019, 10:04 PM

I’m no Trumpsucker but

Kinda like when "I'm no racist but....." usually ends up with the person being a huge racist

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:06 PM

They're no Breitbart, I suppose.

I don’t know man, every source is skewed one way or another. Shame.

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:08 PM

Kinda like when "I'm no racist but....." usually ends up with the person being a huge racist

C’mon Blake, that’s not true and you know it. Pretty basic opinion on your part.

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:10 PM

Clinton was impeached and put on trial.

Sorry, you made a claim that other presidents did what Trump is accused of doing.

What other president has done what Trump is accused of doing?

What’s the blue dress in this particular impeachment? Dna evidence is pretty rock solid. Fwiw i thought Clintons impeachment was a waste of time also, though for totally different reasons. Clinton also never had an anonymous hearsay whistleblower either

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:11 PM

I don’t know man, every source is skewed one way or another. Shame.They say they have documents and interviews. I'm sure one or more of the witnesses will shed some light on that subject.

Really at this point it's like reading a mystery where the killer is revealed on page one. Just filling in blanks.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:12 PM

What’s the blue dress in this particular impeachment?The Sondland victory call.

But I'll ask again: What other president has done what Trump is accused of doing?

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:14 PM

They say they have documents and interviews. I'm sure one or more of the witnesses will shed some light on that subject.

Really at this point it's like reading a mystery where the killer is revealed on page one. Just filling in blanks.

So you’re not presuming innocence? That’s not fair, chump! :lol

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:17 PM

The Sondland victory call.

But I'll ask again: What other president has done what Trump is accused of doing?

On record? None. He should have known...well, he did know the microscope was on him, but did what he did and said what he said feeling that he was acting within his legal right. The argument is whether or not he was right. Twist it one way it was illegal, twist another and it was fair play.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:20 PM

So you’re not presuming innocence? That’s not fair, chump! :lolNot on a jury.

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:23 PM

The Sondland victory call.

But I'll ask again: What other president has done what Trump is accused of doing?

What’s the Sondland victory call? Holmes overhearing one side of a phone conversation and offering his opinion the trump cared more about biden than ukraine policy?

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:23 PM

On record? None. He should have known...well, he did know the microscope was on him, but did what he did and said what he said feeling that he was acting within his legal right. The argument is whether or not he was right. Twist it one way it was illegal, twist another and it was fair play.I don't see any twist that makes it fair play. As I've said before, no innocent narrative has been offered by anyone on Trump's side. The facts here seem pretty spin-proof. I can only think the rationale of Republican senators will be reduced to "Well it wasn't that bad a bribery/extortion plot, was it? Let's let the voters decide!"

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:25 PM

Not on a jury.

I like to presume innocence, but that’s just me.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:25 PM

What’s the Sondland victory call? Holmes overhearing one side of a phone conversation and offering his opinion the trump cared more about biden than ukraine policy?He could hear both sides of the conversation. Trump is apparently very loud on the phone and Sondland was holding it out for everyone in Kiev to hear.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:25 PM

I like to presume innocence, but that’s just me.Probably not in every case.

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:26 PM

I don't see any twist that makes it fair play. As I've said before, no innocent narrative has been offered by anyone on Trump's side. The facts here seem pretty spin-proof. I can only think the rationale of Republican senators will be reduced to "Well it wasn't that bad a bribery/extortion plot, was it? Let's let the voters decide!"
Well I guess y’all finally found something then. If Trump was such a bad guy I wouldn’t think it would be this hard :lol

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:28 PM

Probably not in every case.

I let the strength of the evidence (or lack there of) do the convincing

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:31 PM

Well I guess y’all finally found something then. If Trump was such a bad guy I wouldn’t think it would be this hard :lolWe didn't have to find anything. Trump gave us the memo. It was ridiculously easy.

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:31 PM

He could hear both sides of the conversation. Trump is apparently very loud on the phone and Sondland was holding it out for everyone in Kiev to hear.

But he offered his interpretation of what he heard as his blue dress testimony? So weak dude :lol

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:32 PM

We didn't have to find anything. Trump gave us the memo. It was ridiculously easy.

The transcript you mean? There was nothing there

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:32 PM

I let the strength of the evidence (or lack there of) do the convincingI already let it do that.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:34 PM

The transcript you mean? There was nothing thereThere was plenty there.

Like I said, I'm not going to convince a Trump supporter of anything. If you come across or think of a narrative that explains all Trump's actions here as innocent, by the book legal presidentin', let me know.

I'll let your evidence convince me.

thispego

11-16-2019, 10:35 PM

I already let it do that.

Oh lawd :rolleyes well this is why we have the hearings. I call no removal and Trump re-election in 2020

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:37 PM

Oh lawd :rolleyes well this is why we have the hearings.Maybe you could actually follow one. Very interesting stuff.

I call no removal and Trump re-election in 2020I already did.

DarrinS

11-16-2019, 10:54 PM

Oh lawd :rolleyes well this is why we have the hearings. I call no removal and Trump re-election in 2020

This impeachment "inquiry" is a farce. They aren't really trying to impeach and remove him. They're hoping all this will hurt his reelection chances. And it probably would, if they had a more moderate group of candidates .

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 10:57 PM

This impeachment "inquiry" is a farce. They aren't really trying to impeach and remove him. They're hoping all this will hurt his reelection chances. And it probably would, if they had a more moderate group of candidates .Oh he's getting impeached.

Any of your Facebook friends ever find a legitimate narrative for Trump's actions?

baseline bum

11-16-2019, 11:00 PM

And it probably would, if they had a more moderate group of candidates .

That worked so great for the Democrats in 2016.

DarrinS

11-16-2019, 11:01 PM

Oh he's getting impeached.

Any of your Facebook friends ever find a legitimate narrative for Trump's actions?

Impeachment is DOA

I'm not on Facebook

DarrinS

11-16-2019, 11:02 PM

That worked so great for the Democrats in 2016.

Hillary, Bernie, and two unknown white dudes.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 11:03 PM

Impeachment is DOA
Nah, he's getting impeached.

I'm not on FacebookSure you aren't.

OK, have you seen any explanation for Trump's actions RE: Ukraine that shows they're all normal and legal and aboveboard?

At all?

Yes or no.

Spurs Homer

11-16-2019, 11:06 PM

Well I guess y’all finally found something then. If Trump was such a bad guy I wouldn’t think it would be this hard :lol

nice troll job lol

gtfo

the evidence is overwhelming

but you are a cultist and would be ok with trump raping an infant

baseline bum

11-16-2019, 11:08 PM

Hillary, Bernie, and two unknown white dudes.

LOL a die hard 100% Republican voter telling Democrats who to run.

baseline bum

11-16-2019, 11:11 PM

Hillary, Bernie, and two unknown white dudes.

Yes, Clinton the moderate worked amazingly well.

ElNono

11-16-2019, 11:13 PM

DarrinS

11-16-2019, 11:25 PM

He's getting impeached, no doubt about it. Removal is a different story altogether (and unlikely, IMO).

And what do you call Biden if not center-right? The dislike for Trump will likely drive more Dem voters than him.

I would say he's moderate. Center-right?

If Dems impeach Trump over this, you only know Trump campaign is going to play the Biden video on an endless loop.

ChumpDumper

11-16-2019, 11:30 PM

I would say he's moderate. Center-right?

If Dems impeach Trump over this, you only know Trump campaign is going to play the Biden video on an endless loop.So rubes like you will think it's the same thing?

DarrinS

11-16-2019, 11:34 PM

So rubes like you will think it's the same thing?

People can use their own eyes and ears and judge for themselves.

thispego

11-16-2019, 11:44 PM

nice troll job lol

gtfo

the evidence is overwhelming

but you are a cultist and would be ok with trump raping an infant

Lmao who is this kid? Go fap to your dvr’d episodes of maddow again, that’s an order!

ChumpDumper

11-17-2019, 12:41 AM

People can use their own eyes and ears and judge for themselves.
Do you think it's the same thing?

Yes or no.

Chris

11-17-2019, 01:36 AM

https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1195902386721697792?s=19

Chris

11-17-2019, 01:38 AM

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1195946352829751296?s=19

ChumpDumper

11-17-2019, 01:51 AM

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1195946352829751296?s=19
You do know Rudy is under investigation too right?

Winehole23

11-17-2019, 02:41 AM

This impeachment "inquiry" is a farce. They aren't really trying to impeach and remove him. They're hoping all this will hurt his reelection chances. And it probably would, if they had a more moderate group of candidates .Do you think seven Benghazi investigations hurt HRC? Kevin McCarthy bragged at the time how it was bringing her numbers down, you don't like it now the other side has the oversight?

Pobrecito!

Winehole23

11-17-2019, 02:48 AM

Republicans can dish out the oversight, but cry like babies when they're the target.

ElNono

11-17-2019, 03:13 AM

I would say he's moderate. Center-right?

If Dems impeach Trump over this, you only know Trump campaign is going to play the Biden video on an endless loop.

Definitely center-right, much like Barry. Wheeling and dealing, Corporatist, warmonger, he's even catholic, even though his political expediency makes him part ways in certain specific areas with the church.

They're going to impeach, it's really a no brainer given the depositions. I particularly don't give a crap what they do about Biden, I don't like him either.

They probably will do the Dems a favor if they knock him out of the race. The point is, playing a video of Biden alleged corruption *also* doesn't wash anybody's hands. It's only a valid justification for the 30% base that will vote for Dear Leader anyways.

pgardn

11-17-2019, 08:43 AM

Definitely center-right, much like Barry. Wheeling and dealing, Corporatist, warmonger, he's even catholic, even though his political expediency makes him part ways in certain specific areas with the church.

They're going to impeach, it's really a no brainer given the depositions. I particularly don't give a crap what they do about Biden, I don't like him either.

They probably will do the Dems a favor if they knock him out of the race. The point is, playing a video of Biden alleged corruption *also* doesn't wash anybody's hands. It's only a valid justification for the 30% base that will vote for Dear Leader anyways.

I agree with this with the following caveat. Trump will purposely create problems to draw attention to himself. And he will run roughshod over truthfulness to create controversy. He has no desire to make things work. He understands the 1/3 give him license to be an asshole and dictatorial. He makes enemies and will sacrifice policy for personal payback. He has captured the imagination of the frustrated part of the US in a changing world.

Do anything, just get back at them.

boutons_deux

11-17-2019, 09:47 AM

Trump had an unplanned visit to Walter Reed. Either he is sick or prepping his “medical” resignation.

... or maybe just another look-at-me/it's-all-about-me-me-me-me-me deflection from the Schiff-storm

ElNono

11-17-2019, 11:50 AM

I agree with this with the following caveat. Trump will purposely create problems to draw attention to himself. And he will run roughshod over truthfulness to create controversy. He has no desire to make things work. He understands the 1/3 give him license to be an asshole and dictatorial. He makes enemies and will sacrifice policy for personal payback. He has captured the imagination of the frustrated part of the US in a changing world.

Do anything, just get back at them.

Dennison will play the victim card. That's just about the only thing he does well politically. This is likely the reason Pelosi didn't want to go there, but at some point if you don't hold him responsible you're being complicit and becomes the new normal.

Dems in general have bigger problems than a video. There doesn't seem to be consensus right now on what the outline of the party platform needs to be on important topics (ie: Medicare for all, yes or no?). The candidates are generally not very likeable and thus doesn't drive the vote.

MultiTroll

11-17-2019, 12:21 PM

Dons gonna take it all the way to the endzone and spike it in you liberal wussies faces.

Winehole23

11-17-2019, 12:29 PM

Dons gonna take it all the way to the endzone and spike it in you liberal wussies faces.The advantages of incumbency are considerable. DJT has a good chance to win.

ChumpDumper

11-17-2019, 12:53 PM

:lol nothing else matters to Dennison supporters. Just pwn the Dems by any means necessary, laws and the USA be damned.

Chris

11-17-2019, 02:39 PM

https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1196088854253584384?s=19

Chris

11-17-2019, 02:40 PM

https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1196081809961828353?s=19

Reck

11-17-2019, 02:49 PM

Dons gonna take it all the way to the endzone and spike it in you liberal wussies faces.

:lol 5-D CHESS BABY

Winehole23

11-17-2019, 02:49 PM

Too bad DJT is so bad at criming. A more competent executive in chief wouldn't have left his own fingerprints on it.

Reck

11-17-2019, 02:51 PM

https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1196081809961828353?s=19

Do the conducted polls about impeachment reflect this thinking, Chris?

boutons_deux

11-17-2019, 02:53 PM

:lol nothing else matters to Dennison supporters. Just pwn the Dems by any means necessary, laws and the USA be damned.

... and disease, suffering, and death, all of which will increase, including for Repugs, and have increased, due to Repugs' policies.

Winehole23

11-17-2019, 03:41 PM

Thread has the highlights from the testimony of NSC staffer Tim Morrison and Pence aide Jennifer Williams. Trend is unfavorable to DJT and Sondland.

1195816070424203265

Chris

11-17-2019, 03:52 PM

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1196159843226271746?s=19

Winehole23

11-17-2019, 04:04 PM

That's a distinction without much of a difference; bribes are transactional by definition.

It's unsurprising Dem messaging gets focus-tested. Trump should try it sometime, tbh.

Blake

11-17-2019, 04:13 PM

https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1196081809961828353?s=19

Lol yeah that's what "regular Americans" are thinking

Blake

11-17-2019, 04:15 PM

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1196159843226271746?s=19

Chris believing everything his alt right masters tell him to

Reck

11-17-2019, 04:17 PM

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1196159843226271746?s=19

I'm pretty sure quid pro quo still rules the day. lol Chris

Spurs Homer

11-17-2019, 04:39 PM

Quid pro quo was first uttered by trump and the GOP in lock step...

so they could brand it like the “no collusion” mueller investigation so stupid people like qhris and tsa could parrot it 24/7

knowing full well that it was nothing but a distraction....

pelosi just one-upped them by using a term straight out of the constitution

its already working- judging by the crying on the right

koriwhat

11-17-2019, 04:39 PM

That's a distinction without much of a difference; bribes are transactional by definition.

It's unsurprising Dem messaging gets focus-tested. Trump should try it sometime, tbh.

you truly look at pelosi and schumer and think to yourself that those two are the saviours of our great nation? they're hacks, cons, etc like the rest of that party.

it's hilarious how yall shit on trump supporters while being lefty cultists yourself. yall should just google the spiderman meme next time yall idiots want to open yalls mouth and point fingers tbh.

Winehole23

11-17-2019, 04:59 PM

you truly look at pelosi and schumer and think to yourself that those two are the saviours of our great nation? they're hacks, cons, etc like the rest of that party.

it's hilarious how yall shit on trump supporters while being lefty cultists yourself. yall should just google the spiderman meme next time yall idiots want to open yalls mouth and point fingers tbh.Nah, I don't.

I thought they were horrible when they were minority leaders, I don't have high hopes for them now.

Criticizing DJT doesn't make anyone an idolater of the other side. I sure didn't idolize Obama, check my old threads, you needn't take my word for it.