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RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 12:42 PM
Gimme one group of presidential candidate supporters that are any better than Trump supporters.... there are none
‘I love the poorly educated
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-i-love-the-poorly-educated-144008662.html
(groan)
Okaaay. How about "all of them".
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-i-love-the-poorly-educated-144008662.html
(groan)
Okaaay. How about "all of them".
Ya see?
hater wake the fuck up. :lol
DarrinS
02-24-2016, 12:53 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-i-love-the-poorly-educated-144008662.html
(groan)
Okaaay. How about "all of them".
“We won the evangelicals,” Trump said. “We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.”
I seriously doubt the bolded part.
boutons_deux
02-24-2016, 01:19 PM
“We won the evangelicals,” Trump said. “We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.”
I seriously doubt the bolded part.
It's Trump he's lying
Polls of repute show he loses college grads
DarrinS
02-24-2016, 01:28 PM
It's Trump he's lying
Polls of repute show he loses college grads
Yep
hater
02-24-2016, 01:52 PM
“We won the evangelicals,” Trump said. “We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.”
I seriously doubt the bolded part.
Now we know which group that random guy belongs to :lol
It's Trump he's lying
Polls of repute show he loses college grads
I think Trump means he won compared to his republican opponents (of those who voted in Nevada).
Education
High school or less Trump57% Cruz20% Rubio17% Carson4% Kasich2% Bush0%
Some college/assoc. degree Trump49% Cruz22% Rubio21% Carson4% Kasich3% Bush0%
College graduate Trump42% Rubio28% Cruz20% Carson5% Kasich4% Bush0%
Postgraduate study Trump37% Rubio29% Cruz21% Carson7% Kasich5% Bush0%
hater
02-24-2016, 01:55 PM
:cry but but Trump has no chance :cry
This thread is gonna be fun next week when trump is 10-2 or something like that :lol
hater
02-24-2016, 01:58 PM
I think Trump means he won compared to his republican opponents (of those who voted in Nevada).
Education
High school or less Trump57% Cruz20% Rubio17% Carson4% Kasich2% Bush0%
Some college/assoc. degree Trump49% Cruz22% Rubio21% Carson4% Kasich3% Bush0%
College graduate Trump42% Rubio28% Cruz20% Carson5% Kasich4% Bush0%
Postgraduate study Trump37% Rubio29% Cruz21% Carson7% Kasich5% Bush0%
:lol dont let common sense play a role in here :lol
spurraider21
02-24-2016, 02:01 PM
I think Trump means he won compared to his republican opponents (of those who voted in Nevada).
Education
High school or less Trump57% Cruz20% Rubio17% Carson4% Kasich2% Bush0%
Some college/assoc. degree Trump49% Cruz22% Rubio21% Carson4% Kasich3% Bush0%
College graduate Trump42% Rubio28% Cruz20% Carson5% Kasich4% Bush0%
Postgraduate study Trump37% Rubio29% Cruz21% Carson7% Kasich5% Bush0%
still, pretty telling that his popularity drops as education increases, while the exact opposite is true with rubio
Blake
02-24-2016, 02:54 PM
:cry but but Trump has no chance :cry
This thread is gonna be fun next week when trump is 10-2 or something like that :lol
Yeah Trump winning the presidency would be so fun. Or a terrible disaster leading to us having to get 666 marks on our foreheads and hands
Mitch
02-24-2016, 03:03 PM
still, pretty telling that his popularity drops as education increases, while the exact opposite is true with rubio
The most it really says is the bandwagon effect is well established with Trump already. The HS degree and under people love the bandwagon, they'll vote in whoever is winning and that's Trump right now.
hater
02-24-2016, 03:24 PM
The most it really says is the bandwagon effect is well established with Trump already. The HS degree and under people love the bandwagon, they'll vote in whoever is winning and that's Trump right now.
To be fair same shit hapoened with Obummer last coupke of elections....
hater
02-24-2016, 03:31 PM
Yeah Trump winning the presidency would be so fun. Or a terrible disaster leading to us having to get 666 marks on our foreheads and hands
It really wouldnt be that bad. He obviously has leadershio qualities and can run a business. On the other hand his predecessors Bush and Obama wouldnt even be able to run a lemonade stand :lol
put it this way. If you had a business and you have 3 guys to hire as managers. Bush, obama or trump. Whi would you pick?
The most it really says is the bandwagon effect is well established with Trump already. The HS degree and under people love the bandwagon, they'll vote in whoever is winning and that's Trump right now.
I think it's the opposite - the HS degree and under have always been Trump fans. It's the college and post-graduate who are now band wagoning.
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 03:43 PM
“We won the evangelicals,” Trump said. “We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.”
I seriously doubt the bolded part.
For once, I agree with you.
(ducks an airborne porcine animal)
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 03:47 PM
I think Trump means he won compared to his republican opponents (of those who voted in Nevada).
Education
High school or less Trump57% Cruz20% Rubio17% Carson4% Kasich2% Bush0%
Some college/assoc. degree Trump49% Cruz22% Rubio21% Carson4% Kasich3% Bush0%
College graduate Trump42% Rubio28% Cruz20% Carson5% Kasich4% Bush0%
Postgraduate study Trump37% Rubio29% Cruz21% Carson7% Kasich5% Bush0%
Ah. Gotcha. Among educated Republicans that might be the case. But among educated Americans overall, probably not.
Education. Democrats lead by 22 points (57%-35%) in leaned party identification among adults with post-graduate degrees. The Democrats’ edge is narrower among those with college degrees or some post-graduate experience (49%-42%), and those with less education (47%-39%). Across all educational categories, women are more likely than men to affiliate with the Democratic Party or lean Democratic. The Democrats’ advantage is 35 points (64%-29%) among women with post-graduate degrees, but only eight points (50%-42%) among post-grad men.
http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/
SpursforSix
02-24-2016, 03:49 PM
Yeah Trump winning the presidency would be so fun. Or a terrible disaster leading to us having to get 666 marks on our foreheads and hands
Either way. Time to get something on and either fix this or blow it all up.
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 03:51 PM
It really wouldnt be that bad. He obviously has leadershio qualities and can run a business. On the other hand his predecessors Bush and Obama wouldnt even be able to run a lemonade stand :lol
put it this way. If you had a business and you have 3 guys to hire as managers. Bush, obama or trump. Whi would you pick?
From the Tower to the White House
http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21693230-enigma-presidential-candidates-business-affairs-tower-white
Not overly impress by his business acumen.
I could have done far better if my father had handed me the amount of money he was given.
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 03:53 PM
A review of Mr Trump’s career, his filings with regulators and third-party estimates of his wealth, suggests four conclusions. First, his fortune is in the billions of dollars. Second, his attempt to shift away from debt-heavy property and to create a global brand has been a limited success. About 93% of his wealth sits in America and 80% is in real estate (including golf courses). Third, Mr Trump’s performance has been mediocre compared with the stockmarket and property in New York. Lastly, his clannish management style suggests he might be out of his depth if he ran a larger organisation.
Trump is not used to working with other stakeholders within a large organization. That would likely blow up his presidency into a one-term do-fuckall one.
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 03:55 PM
To be fair same shit hapoened with Obummer last coupke of elections....
Not really.
hater
02-24-2016, 03:56 PM
Trump is not used to working with other stakeholders within a large organization. That would likely blow up his presidency into a one-term do-fuckall one.
Neither was Obama, or Bush, or Shillary for that matter.
I reiterate my lemonade stand example. Trump would know what to do with it.
Obama would turn it into a free clinic... And Bush... be would find a way to make it explode into a million pieces :lmao
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 03:59 PM
It really wouldnt be that bad. He obviously has leadershio qualities and can run a business. On the other hand his predecessors Bush and Obama wouldnt even be able to run a lemonade stand :lol
put it this way. If you had a business and you have 3 guys to hire as managers. Bush, obama or trump. Whi would you pick?
Trump is an autocrat.
I would not pick him to run a business I own. That kind of ego does not fit well into other people's business.
"Bush" could be jeb or GW or GHW. Jeb... maybe. GW hell no.
Kind of a bad question, tbh.
spurraider21
02-24-2016, 04:00 PM
Not overly impress by his business acumen.
I could have done far better if my father had handed me the amount of money he was given.
:lol jesus
SpursforSix
02-24-2016, 04:00 PM
tbh, I think a lot of Trump voters consider him a coinflip. But view it as a chance that something drastic will get done. And possibly something good. And their opinion is that any of the other candidates if a guarantee that it'll be the same old shit for 4 more years.
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 04:01 PM
Neither was Obama, or Bush, or Shillary for that matter.
I reiterate my lemonade stand example. Trump would know what to do with it.
Obama would turn it into a free clinic... And Bush... be would find a way to make it explode into a million pieces :lmao
Hillary ran the State Department
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State
Larger budget, more employees than Trump, and that gives her a de facto edge in foreign policy and US military knowledge over Trump who is laughably ignorant on both.
SpursforSix
02-24-2016, 04:02 PM
:lol jesus
LOL.
But I get what he's saying. If I'd been coaching the Spurs with Timmy, we'd have 7 or 8 rings now.
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 04:02 PM
tbh, I think a lot of Trump voters consider him a coinflip. But view it as a chance that something drastic will get done. And possibly something good. And their opinion is that any of the other candidates if a guarantee that it'll be the same old shit for 4 more years.
A trump presidency would be stymied by a revolt within the GOP, and Democrats who just couldn't work with him. He has said too much stupid shit to ever win Democratic support.
hater
02-24-2016, 04:03 PM
Hillary ran the State Department
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State
Larger budget, more employees than Trump, and that gives her a de facto edge in foreign policy and US military knowledge over Trump who is laughably ignorant on both.
She got our ambassador killed. Probably the worst thing that can possibly happen
Blake
02-24-2016, 04:05 PM
It really wouldnt be that bad. He obviously has leadershio qualities and can run a business. On the other hand his predecessors Bush and Obama wouldnt even be able to run a lemonade stand :lol
put it this way. If you had a business and you have 3 guys to hire as managers. Bush, obama or trump. Whi would you pick?
So you're voting for Trump because you think he's gonna make money for you?
SpursforSix
02-24-2016, 04:05 PM
A trump presidency would be stymied by a revolt within the GOP, and Democrats who just couldn't work with him. He has said too much stupid shit to ever win Democratic support.
You'll have to convince the voters. Not me. That was my opinion on how many see him.
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 04:06 PM
:lol jesus
Trump was given somewhere north of $50M
That investment, put in an index fund tracking the S & P would be worth more than Trumps estimated wealth now.
http://www.moneytalksnews.com/why-youre-probably-better-investing-than-donald-trump/
QED
You could have done better too.
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 04:08 PM
You'll have to convince the voters. Not me. That was my opinion on how many see him.
Indeed.
It will be a fun ride to watch the GOP go out of its mind when it nominates Trump and loses solidly to Hillary.
hater
02-24-2016, 04:09 PM
:lol ambassador killer cant even break 52% running against a fossilized mummy :lol
So you're voting for Trump because you think he's gonna make money for you?
Isn't that a desired result? That he'll make wise decisions and manage the country well (through trade deals, tax policy, etc.) so that all of America will be prosperous?
hater
02-24-2016, 04:13 PM
Isn't that a desired result? That he'll make wise decisions and manage the country well (through trade deals, tax policy, etc.) so that all of America will be prosperous?
This.
Plus making money is just a smalk part of running a business
RandomGuy
02-24-2016, 04:13 PM
She got our ambassador killed. Probably the worst thing that can possibly happen
Debateable, unless you buy into a lot of propaganda.
Not nearly as bad as Losing a battalion of marines to a truck bomb, kid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings
LOL "worst"
spurraider21
02-24-2016, 04:14 PM
Trump was given somewhere north of $50M
That investment, put in an index fund tracking the S & P would be worth more than Trumps estimated wealth now.
http://www.moneytalksnews.com/why-youre-probably-better-investing-than-donald-trump/
QED
You could have done better too.
You're misrepresenting that article. It takes the starting point of 500 million, not 50 million as you put it.
Also read... http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/
Trump was given somewhere north of $50M
That investment, put in an index fund tracking the S & P would be worth more than Trumps estimated wealth now.
http://www.moneytalksnews.com/why-youre-probably-better-investing-than-donald-trump/
QED
You could have done better too.
I don't think that article takes into account how much tax Trump would have had to pay (every year and so less to invest) if he had put it into a S&P 500 index fund. He doesn't pay any capital gains tax with real estate as long as he doesn't sell - the properties just appreciate.
Trump can also leverage and borrow against the real estate. I don't think you can borrow against stocks (not a traditional loan) - maybe go on margin.
DarrinS
02-24-2016, 04:31 PM
lol, would-be commander-in-chief subjected himself to this shite
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/onrp94/roast-of-donald-trump-seth-macfarlane---pronunciation---uncensored
Blake
02-24-2016, 04:33 PM
Isn't that a desired result? That he'll make wise decisions and manage the country well (through trade deals, tax policy, etc.) so that all of America will be prosperous?
This.
Plus making money is just a smalk part of running a business
Lol making money is pretty much the sole purpose of a for-profit business.
What president has done anything to make your living conditions better? What exactly did he do and how are you living better
Aztecfan03
02-24-2016, 05:01 PM
Indeed.
It will be a fun ride to watch the GOP go out of its mind when it nominates Trump and loses solidly to Hillary.
we'll lose our minds the minute he is nominated. No need to wait till he loses in the general.
hitmanyr2k
02-24-2016, 05:17 PM
A trump presidency would be stymied by a revolt within the GOP, and Democrats who just couldn't work with him. He has said too much stupid shit to ever win Democratic support.
Don't be so sure. Trump is a liberal at heart. He's changing his stripes to pull his latest "Art of the Deal" tactic on the stupid GOP rubes at the moment. If by some miracle he became President I could see him clashing more with Republicans than Democrats.
Now he's picking up congressional endorsements!
Hater is providing with so much bump potential later on. :lol
I think Rubio still gets the nod. With a narrower race, Trump has nowhere to hide now. His favorite punching bag is no longer there so he'll have to take serious questions and attacks from actual people who know what they're doing.
and that's Rubio? :rollin
Trump just has to hold out and hope for a divided field till March 15 when it becomes winner takes all (he's leading in Florida and Ohio) and within 1/tied with Cruz in Texas.
Thursday, February 25
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
Texas Republican Presidential Primary TEGNA/SurveyUSA Cruz 32, Trump 32, Rubio 17, Kasich 6, Carson 5 Tie
Texas Democratic Presidential Primary TEGNA/SurveyUSA Clinton 61, Sanders 32 Clinton +29
Wednesday, February 24
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
Texas Republican Presidential Primary Emerson Cruz 29, Trump 28, Rubio 25, Kasich 9, Carson 4 Cruz +1
Trump is going to sweep the SEC primary!
Trump is going to sweep the SEC primary!
He doesn't have to sweep - just stop Cruz from getting over 50% in Texas and winning all its many delegates (proportional would be fine).
He doesn't have to sweep - just stop Cruz from getting over 50% in Texas and winning all its many delegates (proportional would be fine).
I understand, but he is going to sweep!
hater
02-24-2016, 11:47 PM
and that's Rubio? :rollin
:lol
Poor Rubio got obliterated by Christie. And he's supposed to know what he's doing? Lol
Dirk Oneanddoneski
02-25-2016, 12:29 AM
Hey fellow Trump fans and future members of the Fourth Reich where do you think Trump should put his concentration camp in Texas? I think Austinwitz has a nice ring to it tbh fam
http://i.imgur.com/P8gmsEC.jpg
Dirk Oneanddoneski
02-25-2016, 12:37 AM
Clayton Bigsby made it to Nevada:lol
http://i.imgur.com/syve523.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QozaiRB.jpg
:lol
Poor Rubio got obliterated by Christie. And he's supposed to know what he's doing? Lol
Is he not in second place? :lol
The whole GOP hates Trump's guts. Dont think for a second they will let him cruise. :lmao
hater
02-25-2016, 07:05 AM
Is he not in second place? :lol
The whole GOP hates Trump's guts. Dont think for a second they will let him cruise. :lmao
And do you think Truml will let Rubio cruise? He will complete destroy the poor bastard :lmao
RandomGuy
02-25-2016, 08:17 AM
Isn't that a desired result? That he'll make wise decisions and manage the country well (through trade deals, tax policy, etc.) so that all of America will be prosperous?
About the only way I would vote for a Republican, is if I thought they would genuinely reform the tax code.
Despite all the other horribly bad and destructive policies of the Republican party, that would outweigh most other damage in my mind.
RandomGuy
02-25-2016, 08:20 AM
I don't think that article takes into account how much tax Trump would have had to pay (every year and so less to invest) if he had put it into a S&P 500 index fund. He doesn't pay any capital gains tax with real estate as long as he doesn't sell - the properties just appreciate.
Capital gains apply to stocks and bonds as well. Buy. Hold. Pay no tax.
http://www.fool.com/how-to-invest/personal-finance/taxes/2014/02/14/2014-capital-gains-tax-6-things-you-need-to-know.aspx
The investment website is probably aware of the taxes.
RandomGuy
02-25-2016, 08:23 AM
You're misrepresenting that article. It takes the starting point of 500 million, not 50 million as you put it.
Also read... http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/
Ah, my comment was driven by a different article that estimated what he inherited from his father. 250M or so split between four children, if memory serves.
The article set the beginning time at what was known about his wealth to a good degree of certainty. Noted the disparity, but didn't bother getting into the details. I'll see if I can find the other article.
(edit)--didn't have to look far. :)
Your own article pegs it at about $40M
The National Journal writer, S.V. Dáte, figured Trump started with $40 million in 1974. That’s the year he became president of his father’s real estate company. By one estimate, the firm was worth about $200 million and divided among Donald Trump and his four siblings, each would have received $40 million.
I was referencing his starting money, in 1974, the article noted a fixed point in time in the 1980s.
RandomGuy
02-25-2016, 08:29 AM
Don't be so sure. Trump is a liberal at heart. He's changing his stripes to pull his latest "Art of the Deal" tactic on the stupid GOP rubes at the moment. If by some miracle he became President I could see him clashing more with Republicans than Democrats.
I would tend to agree.
Republicans have a much lower tolerance for ideological impurity.
RandomGuy
02-25-2016, 08:41 AM
You're misrepresenting that article. It takes the starting point of 500 million, not 50 million as you put it.
Also read... http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/
But, to get to the point of the politifact article, they unsurprisingly rated the highly partisan claim by Occupy Democrats as false, mostly because it used some rather tenuous assumptions.
The overall hypothesis that Trump could have done better if he has simply done nothing is still one worth evaluating. Remember we are evaluating the claim "Trump is a great businessman".
the math [showing Trumps net worth compared to index funds is] at least is in the ballpark.
The above conclusion jibes with other analysis. THAT means that there is not really much to support the claim we are evaluating. If Trump was a great businessman, he should have easily outperformed an index fund.
This is why I reject the "elect Trump because of his business acumen".
The federal government is not a business, and he is not that great even so.
RandomGuy
02-25-2016, 09:42 AM
it is difficult to imagine any candidate less suited to the consequence of winning a general election, namely governing.
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21693579-donald-trump-unfit-lead-great-political-party-time-fire-him
MultiTroll
02-25-2016, 11:07 AM
Donny likely to be called to testify in his Trump University scam.
Trial to be here in San Diego in May.
You guys want me to rep ST?
Whaddaya want said to Trump?
Blake
02-25-2016, 11:08 AM
Donny likely to be called to testify in his Trump University scam.
Trial to be here in San Diego in May.
You guys want me to rep ST?
Whaddaya want said to Trump?
Ask him if Trump University will one day have a football team
And do you think Truml will let Rubio cruise? He will complete destroy the poor bastard :lmao
The takedown has started Hater. :lol
the RNC started their dirty campaign on Trump.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/25/mitt-romney-just-trolled-donald-trump-like-a-boss/
boutons_deux
02-25-2016, 11:55 AM
Romney says Trump is hiding a ‘bombshell’ in his tax returns
“The reason that I think there’s a bombshell in there is because every time he’s asked about his taxes he dodges and delays and says, ‘Well we’re working on it,'” Romney told Fox News.
“We’re now, you know, in late February and we still haven’t seen either Donald Trump’s or Marco Rubio’s or Ted Cruz’s taxes,” he added, referring to the two US senators challenging Trump for the nomination.
“Frankly the voters have a right to see those tax returns before they decide who our nominee ought to be.”
Romney, a businessman and former Massachusetts governor who himself faced relentless questioning about his financial dealings and taxes during the 2012 campaign, said he believed Trump simply might not be as wealthy as he has claimed.
“We could find he doesn’t have anywhere near as much income as we might think he would have with a $10 billion net worth, or he doesn’t pay any taxes or he pays very, very low taxes,” Romney said.
The insinuation is reminiscent of a 2012 attack on Romney, when top Senate Democrat Harry Reid repeatedly said that an unnamed investor in Romney’s company, Bain Capital, told him that Romney “didn’t pay taxes for 10 years.”
Reid’s comments set off a firestorm at the time.
Romney’s Wednesday remarks triggered a snappy reaction from Trump on Twitter.
“Mitt Romney, who totally blew an election that should have been won and whose tax returns made him look like a fool, is now playing tough guy,” Trump tweeted.
In January 2012 after the start of the primary race, Romney released his tax returns for 2010 and 2011, which showed he earned about $21 million for each of those years.
They also showed that in 2010 he paid a 13.9 percent tax rate, while those in the top one percent, which clearly includes Romney, paid an average of 23.4 percent.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/romney-says-trump-is-hiding-a-bombshell-in-his-tax-returns/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Bishop Gekko and his Queen Ann blocked "you people" from seeing their bombshell tax returns, because they had (got caught) evaded taxes very probably with the help of Swiss banks.
MultiTroll
02-25-2016, 12:03 PM
Bishop Gekko and his Queen Ann blocked "you people" from seeing their bombshell tax returns, because they had (got caught) evaded taxes very probably with the help of Swiss banks.
How did that turn out in addition to what you posted?
For some reason I thought Gekko was able to skate on revealing in total.
?
Blake
02-25-2016, 12:04 PM
Romney says Trump is hiding a ‘bombshell’ in his tax returns
“The reason that I think there’s a bombshell in there is because every time he’s asked about his taxes he dodges and delays and says, ‘Well we’re working on it,'” Romney told Fox News.
“We’re now, you know, in late February and we still haven’t seen either Donald Trump’s or Marco Rubio’s or Ted Cruz’s taxes,” he added, referring to the two US senators challenging Trump for the nomination.
Does Mitt not know that taxes are due in April?
spurraider21
02-25-2016, 12:25 PM
I reject the "elect Trump because of his business acumen".
The federal government is not a business
this much i can agree with
but if turning 40 million into billions is easy and unimpressive, then everybody who has tens of millions should become billionaires
Blake
02-25-2016, 12:26 PM
702894623761498112
Lol
boutons_deux
02-25-2016, 12:30 PM
How did that turn out in addition to what you posted?
For some reason I thought Gekko was able to skate on revealing in total.
?
he added up every nickel and dime, I bet sales taxes, property taxes, etc, etc. rather than just income taxes, and couldn't get up to 14%, and refused to publish tax returns older than 3 years, hiding his tax evasion from "you people"
MultiTroll
02-25-2016, 12:44 PM
^^ What year(s) will Donny have to reveal?
boutons_deux
02-25-2016, 12:46 PM
^^ What year(s) will Donny have to reveal?
I think 10 years has been published by other public figures
RandomGuy
02-25-2016, 01:02 PM
this much i can agree with
but if turning 40 million into billions is easy and unimpressive, then everybody who has tens of millions should become billionaires
Over 40 years, you can. That is partly why wealth is becoming increasingly concentrated. It is a simple mathematical certainty over a long period.
Granted you get total dumbasses who will be the exceptions to the rule, but generally that is the way it works.
MultiTroll
02-25-2016, 01:07 PM
I think 10 years has been published by other public figures
Yet Gekko only did 3.
I mean what is required?
RandomGuy
02-25-2016, 01:11 PM
I think 10 years has been published by other public figures
Some rules:
https://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/disclosure.php
Looks like close, but not sure what is requirement vs what is common practice:
http://www.oge.gov/DisplayTemplates/ModelSub.aspx?id=2147484464
hater
02-25-2016, 01:52 PM
The takedown has started Hater. :lol
the RNC started their dirty campaign on Trump.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/25/mitt-romney-just-trolled-donald-trump-like-a-boss/
:lol tax smack??? Thats the best they can do??
Attacking Trump witb taxes is like attcking a monkey with bananas. He will just go ahead and say the IRS can suck his cock and his % points will increasy by a half dozen :lol
:lol tax smack
Quetzal-X
02-25-2016, 01:55 PM
If and when The Don calls to recruit US Patriot The Nuge as his VP --its a fuckin wrap!
Der Trumpler and The Nuge would be YUUUGE!
Capital gains apply to stocks and bonds as well. Buy. Hold. Pay no tax.
http://www.fool.com/how-to-invest/personal-finance/taxes/2014/02/14/2014-capital-gains-tax-6-things-you-need-to-know.aspx
The investment website is probably aware of the taxes.
With his real estate and business ventures, he can provide jobs for his children, in-laws, relatives and friends. He can use the tax code to his benefit and expense his plane, cars, meals, depreciate his property, etc. His current net worth takes into account the money he has spent living over the past 34 years.
With the passive S&P funds, you have to sell some in order to live - the end amount (which is greatly helped by the power of compounding) does not take into account his living/spending expenses for the past 34 years. There are also dividends which are taxed. And when a fund decides to re-allocate, they sell (and capital gains kicks in - at ordinary income rates if short term) - we have no control over that. There are less loopholes, etc. to take advantage of. There is also the angle of Trump's ego/brand - boring S&P index fund vs luxury hotels and golf courses.
If I had to choose, I'd take the real estate. It's tangible, dependent on my work/effort/control, not at the whim of/manipulated by Wall Street, can be leveraged to borrow more, can provide jobs for my kids, and is relatively inflation-proof. The big advantage for the S&P funds is that it is liquid. Just my humble opinion.
DarrinS
02-25-2016, 04:31 PM
If and when The Don calls to recruit US Patriot The Nuge as his VP --its a fuckin wrap!
Der Trumpler and The Nuge would be YUUUGE!
who?
Splits
02-25-2016, 06:08 PM
702589336156557312
Totally fit to run the most powerful country on the planet. Totally.
Quetzal-X
02-25-2016, 06:49 PM
Fuckin' A Totally Dude!!!
Splits
02-25-2016, 06:52 PM
k8TwRmX6zs4
Quetzal-X
02-25-2016, 07:00 PM
:lol Look how RED that devil gettin
:lol Trump wishin it was pre-60's when lynching niggaz was like eatin pecans on the porch
:lol Barry still THAT Nigga
DarrinS
02-25-2016, 07:07 PM
k8TwRmX6zs4
:lol brutal
:lol tax smack??? Thats the best they can do??
Attacking Trump witb taxes is like attcking a monkey with bananas. He will just go ahead and say the IRS can suck his cock and his % points will increasy by a half dozen :lol
:lol tax smack
Hello..This is what almost costed Mitt Romnney the nomination back in 2012. If he hadn't released his taxes he would have gotten toast.
This is all about pressuring Trump.
Rubio going in raw on that ass. :lol
boutons_deux
02-25-2016, 09:39 PM
Ex-Mexican Prez To Trump: 'I'm Not Going To Pay For That F*cking Wall'
Former Mexico President Vicente Fox had a strong message for Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump on Thursday: Mexico is "not going to pay for that fucking wall."
Fox told Fusion's Jorge Ramos that Trump should pay for the U.S.-Mexico border wall, the Republican's marquee foreign policy plan, because "he's got the money."
"Democracy cannot take us to crazy people," Fox responded when asked if he was afraid that Trump would win the election.
Fox also cited Trump's decisive win at the Nevada caucuses, particularly his support from Hispanic voters, as evidence of a troubling precedent.
"I would like to know who those Hispanics are because they, again, they are followers of a false prophet, and he's going to take them to the desert," he said. "If they think they will benefit from an administration led by Donald Trump, they're wrong."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/vincente-fox-to-trump-not-paying-for-wall?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
hater
02-25-2016, 11:33 PM
:lmao trump with another bloddy beatdow to his name.
I expect nothing less than a complete sweep :lol
:cry but but he has no chance :cry
:lol
Nbadan
02-25-2016, 11:36 PM
:lmao trump with another bloddy beatdow to his name.
I expect nothing less than a complete sweep :lol
:cry but but he has no chance :cry
:lol
Settle down Francis.....nobody expected the other candidates to be such pussies is more accurate...
Nbadan
02-25-2016, 11:40 PM
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham...
Asked whether he'd endorse the billionaire businessman if nominated, Graham said, "I've got a ticket on the Titanic. So I am like on the team that bought a ticket on the Titanic after we saw the movie. This is what happens if you nominate Trump."
hater
02-25-2016, 11:44 PM
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham...
:lmao lydndsey graham. This is the same guy that would rather start a nuclear war with iran and russia than keep israel in check. Fuck that suicidal maniac. If hes against trump. Means trump is good for humanity :lol
Quetzal-X
02-25-2016, 11:46 PM
Mi compadre Chente is right. Very right. He's talking to those 'hispanics' that are following a false prophet in more ways than one. Willful sheep to the slaughter. The majority of which believe if they classify themselves as 'hispanic' , no one will know they are Mexican. Wanna be hispanic, wannabe latino, this and that. No motherfuckers you are Mexican till you die and get rejected at heavens gate for following a huge white liar. When trumps fellationist look out their windows depressed as shit, they just see brown. Thats you niggas. Papers or not , you are still the undesired. Uncle Toms aplenty in the north american brownies. I tend to believe that trump is that "Jefe/Patron" figure for these mamones that, lets face it, will very often reward the step/fetch kiss ass scrub at the jobsite. Its just the nature of many many mexicans. Protect the boss at all costs cuz mijitos birthday is coming up and he really wants $uch and $uch so I NEED to make sure the boss sees me workin hard! Always gotta be Uncle Tomahawks and Tommys.
hater
02-25-2016, 11:57 PM
Mi compadre Chente is right. Very right. He's talking to those 'hispanics' that are following a false prophet in more ways than one. Willful sheep to the slaughter. The majority of which believe if they classify themselves as 'hispanic' , no one will know they are Mexican. Wanna be hispanic, wannabe latino, this and that. No motherfuckers you are Mexican till you die and get rejected at heavens gate for following a huge white liar. When trumps fellationist look out their windows depressed as shit, they just see brown. Thats you niggas. Papers or not , you are still the undesired. Uncle Toms aplenty in the north american brownies. I tend to believe that trump is that "Jefe/Patron" figure for these mamones that, lets face it, will very often reward the step/fetch kiss ass scrub at the jobsite. Its just the nature of many many mexicans. Protect the boss at all costs cuz mijitos birthday is coming up and he really wants $uch and $uch so I NEED to make sure the boss sees me workin hard! Always gotta be Uncle Tomahawks and Tommys.
Yiu are full of shit compadre
clinton never did shit for latinos. Neither did bush.
obama he deported more immigrants than anyone.
at least trump doesnt lie to the people and promise bulshit to messicans. He tells the teuth.
he will be no better but nk worse for immigrants. At least he doesnt lie
spurraider21
02-25-2016, 11:57 PM
graham would be way more likable if he wasnt such a ridiculous warhawk
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:02 AM
Yiu are full of shit compadre
clinton never did shit for latinos. Neither did bush.
obama he deported more immigrants than anyone.
at least trump doesnt lie to the people and promise bulshit to messicans. He tells the teuth.
he will be no better but nk worse for immigrants. At least he doesnt lie
All of you honkeys lie about everything-since 1492 till present. Mexicans would not have the same type of physical threats at a clinton rally because trumps fellators are driven by pure hatred-not policy. That makes a difference. Clinton, Barry etc never cosigned violence. Trump thinks it a ok. Those Uncle toms would be roasted on the Kristian Kross if it was up to his supporters, why act stupid ?
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:04 AM
If 'hispanics' read their dusty ass bibles, they'd know it warns of assholes like your and trumps forefathers. Its a biblical thing too lol
hater
02-26-2016, 12:06 AM
Still. Clinton didnt do shit for mexicans. Neither did bush. Obama deported and broke more mexican families than anyone.
and shillary, she would be terrible to mexicans. She treats them like cattle.
at least trump is honest
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:11 AM
None of them cosigned violence. That makes a huge difference. Bush clinton Barry never once brushed off violent behavior or none of them retweeted Nazi propaganda or emboldened anyone to commit thuggery. Trying to compare the two is why trump loves the uneducated.
Blake
02-26-2016, 12:11 AM
Still. Clinton didnt do shit for mexicans. Neither did bush. Obama deported and broke more mexican families than anyone.
and shillary, she would be terrible to mexicans. She treats them like cattle.
at least trump is honest
Yeah, Trump would treat you like cattle shit, peon.
hater
02-26-2016, 12:13 AM
Yeah, Trump would treat you like cattle shit, peon.
Nope. At least not much more than clinton-bush-obama-clinton/rubio.
fuck all those faggots. Its time for change. Its time for trump
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:13 AM
If 'hispanics' read their dusty ass bibles, they'd know it warns of assholes like your and trumps forefathers. Its a biblical thing too lol
hater
02-26-2016, 12:17 AM
Its sad you like to be treated like cattle. Lije the bush and clintons of the world. Sad. I guess its in your DNA. Like the animals or slaves of back in the day.. you. dont know better.
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:17 AM
Nope. At least not much more than clinton-bush-obama-clinton/rubio.
fuck all those faggots. Its time for change. Its time for trump
:lolChange:lol
more like chains. You going into slavery cause god said so.
hater
02-26-2016, 12:18 AM
Its sad you like to be treated like cattle. Lije the bush and clintons of the world. Sad. I guess its in your DNA. Like the animals or slaves of back in the day.. you. dont know better.
ChumpDumper
02-26-2016, 12:20 AM
Its sad you like to be treated like cattle. Lije the bush and clintons of the world. Sad. I guess its in your DNA. Like the animals or slaves of back in the day.. you. dont know better.
Why do you follow Trump like so much cattle?
hater
02-26-2016, 12:22 AM
Why do you follow Trump like so much cattle?
Why do yiu follow clinton-obama-clinton like so much cattle??
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:23 AM
Its sad you like to be treated like cattle. Lije the bush and clintons of the world. Sad. I guess its in your DNA. Like the animals or slaves of back in the day.. you. dont know better.
Your forefathers were the true animals . Being a fucking lying savage is in your DNA. Lying is in your DNA and the bible warns of devils like you tbh lol
ChumpDumper
02-26-2016, 12:23 AM
Why do yiu follow clinton-obama-clinton like so much cattle??Lesser of evils for the most part.
I asked you first.
Please answer.
Why do you follow Trump like so much cattle.
No one is more in the tank for a politician more than you for Trump.
Why?
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:24 AM
Cattle do not resist inbred idiot. Trump loves the uneducated like yourself for a reason ya know lol
hater
02-26-2016, 12:27 AM
Lesser of evils for the most part.
I asked you first.
Please answer.
Why do you follow Trump like so much cattle.
No one is more in the tank for a politician more than you for Trump.
Why?
Lesser of evils??? How was a clinton presidency, obama presidency and clinton state department stint less evil than the bushes???
ChumpDumper
02-26-2016, 12:28 AM
Lesser of evils??? How was a clinton presidency, obama presidency and clinton state department stint less evil than the bushes???Answer my question that I asked you first.
Why are you so completely a cattle like follower of trump?
hater
02-26-2016, 12:28 AM
Cattle do not resist inbred idiot. Trump loves the uneducated like yourself for a reason ya know lol
How has an average mexicans life improved after 8 years of clinton or 8 years of obama. Thats 16 years.
the average mexican is as goid or worse than 16 years ago.
Dont be so gullible.
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:30 AM
How has an average mexicans life improved after 8 years of clinton or 8 years of obama. Thats 16 years.
the average mexican is as goid or worse than 16 years ago.
Dont be so gullible.
The average mexican thinks hes white so its complicated lol
hater
02-26-2016, 12:32 AM
The average mexican thinks hes white so its complicated lol
Um no. Average mexican is as brown as coconut sugar :lol
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:35 AM
Um no. Average mexican is as brown as coconut sugar :lol
My DARK DARK DARK motherfucking compadre tells me "look it says white on my ...documents" I tell him- look in the fucking mirror beto.
hater
02-26-2016, 12:37 AM
My DARK DARK DARK motherfucking compadre tells me "look it says white on my ...documents" I tell him- look in the fucking mirror beto.
My color is brown sugar tbh yet mexicans call me guero :lol
hater
02-26-2016, 12:39 AM
And the mayates call me a craka. Im like r u fucking retarded? :lol
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:42 AM
My color is brown sugar tbh yet mexicans call me guero :lol
You would end up on a noose amigo. These trump fellators will know. If the Mexicans know, Trumps fellationist party will definitely know.
hater
02-26-2016, 12:43 AM
You would end up on a noose amigo. These trump fellators will know. If the Mexicans know, Trumps fellationist party will definitely know.
Ive partied with trumpistas bro. They good ppls. Its the clintonians and bush-rubios u gotta be worried about.
Quetzal-X
02-26-2016, 12:47 AM
Ive partied with trumpistas bro. They good ppls. Its the clintonians and bush-rubios u gotta be worried about.
ok
ElNono
02-26-2016, 01:19 AM
David Duke: Voting against Trump is 'treason to your heritage'
The white nationalist and former KKK grand wizard encouraged his listeners to volunteer for Trump.
David Duke, a white nationalist and former Klu Klux Klan grand wizard, told his audience Wednesday that voting for anyone besides Donald Trump “is really treason to your heritage.”
“Voting for these people, voting against Donald Trump at this point, is really treason to your heritage,” Duke said on the David Duke Radio Program. BuzzFeed News first reported the comments.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777
baseline bum
02-26-2016, 01:32 AM
David Duke: Voting against Trump is 'treason to your heritage'
The white nationalist and former KKK grand wizard encouraged his listeners to volunteer for Trump.
David Duke, a white nationalist and former Klu Klux Klan grand wizard, told his audience Wednesday that voting for anyone besides Donald Trump “is really treason to your heritage.”
“Voting for these people, voting against Donald Trump at this point, is really treason to your heritage,” Duke said on the David Duke Radio Program. BuzzFeed News first reported the comments.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777
That's a good endorsement for Trump. Rest of the field has to be jealous.
We can't be held responsible for what David Duke says or what Hitler (if he were alive) might have said about Trump.
boutons_deux
02-26-2016, 07:10 AM
We can't be held responsible for what David Duke says or what Hitler (if he were alive) might have said about Trump.
What Trump says makes him responsible for attracting racists, xenophobes, nativists, Muslim-haters, white supremacists, KKK.
boutons_deux
02-26-2016, 07:25 AM
Trump responds to former Mexican president’s F-bomb: ‘The wall just got ten feet taller’
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/trump-responds-to-former-mexican-presidents-f-bomb-the-wall-just-got-ten-feet-taller/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Trump's followers are mentally walled off behind hate, ignorance, low-wage, low-infor, low-education.
A Pres Trump will DO NOTHING for them, but will enrich/protect/enable his wealthy class to continue their predation. eg, Trump's tax cuts do nothing the his rabid financial losers
The huge Republican tax cut plans, in 4 charts
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/25/11109160/donald-trump-marco-rubio-tax-comparison
What Trump says makes him responsible for attracting racists, xenophobes, nativists, Muslim-haters, white supremacists, KKK.
Trump says he loves people of all races. He employs many of them, according to him.
boutons_deux
02-26-2016, 07:32 AM
Trump says he loves people of all races. He employs many of them, according to him.
Trump, consummate con man, has and will say ANYTHING, but what really excites his conned supporters:
What Trump says makes him responsible for attracting racists, xenophobes, nativists, Muslim-haters, white supremacists, KKK.
I think Rubio could be on to something with the Trump University line of attack. That concerns me.
hater
02-26-2016, 09:12 AM
Trump says he loves people of all races. He employs many of them, according to him.
yup. what a terrible line of attack to say Trump is a racist. just terrible
hater
02-26-2016, 09:13 AM
David Duke: Voting against Trump is 'treason to your heritage'
The white nationalist and former KKK grand wizard encouraged his listeners to volunteer for Trump.
David Duke, a white nationalist and former Klu Klux Klan grand wizard, told his audience Wednesday that voting for anyone besides Donald Trump “is really treason to your heritage.”
“Voting for these people, voting against Donald Trump at this point, is really treason to your heritage,” Duke said on the David Duke Radio Program. BuzzFeed News first reported the comments.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777
NEOCON BEHIND THE IRAQ WAR ENDORSES HILLARY CLINTON :lmao
pgardn
02-26-2016, 09:17 AM
We can't be held responsible for what David Duke says or what Hitler (if he were alive) might have said about Trump.
We?
DMX, Trump Super Delegate.
:lmao
Rubio unloading on Trump still.
Says he he had a meltdown back stage. Asked for lip makeup or some shit and was waiving arms arguing with one of his people. :lmao
hitmanyr2k
02-26-2016, 12:15 PM
The fuck? :lol Maybe Trump did have a meltdown or he hired someone from Spurstalk to tweet for him.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a42480/donald-trump-tweet-spelling-errors/
RandomGuy
02-26-2016, 12:20 PM
With his real estate and business ventures, he can provide jobs for his children, in-laws, relatives and friends. He can use the tax code to his benefit and expense his plane, cars, meals, depreciate his property, etc. His current net worth takes into account the money he has spent living over the past 34 years.
With the passive S&P funds, you have to sell some in order to live - the end amount (which is greatly helped by the power of compounding) does not take into account his living/spending expenses for the past 34 years. There are also dividends which are taxed. And when a fund decides to re-allocate, they sell (and capital gains kicks in - at ordinary income rates if short term) - we have no control over that. There are less loopholes, etc. to take advantage of. There is also the angle of Trump's ego/brand - boring S&P index fund vs luxury hotels and golf courses.
If I had to choose, I'd take the real estate. It's tangible, dependent on my work/effort/control, not at the whim of/manipulated by Wall Street, can be leveraged to borrow more, can provide jobs for my kids, and is relatively inflation-proof. The big advantage for the S&P funds is that it is liquid. Just my humble opinion.
Not quite. Stock investments yield dividends. There is no requirement to sell anything. Index funds don't re-allocate actively, they simply track markets, which produces far less churn.
Even factoring in living expenses into the "mutual fund" scenario, it would not affect the ultimate outcome in a material way.
Real estate per se doesn't generate jobs, after the initial construction. Companies that fill the real estate do.
Still not overly impressed with Mr. Trumps business performance. It is nothing really to brag about, and the fact that he forced creditors to pay for his very costly mistakes is certainly a point against him.
CNN is teasing a big announcement coming from Trump shortly.
Maybe he got so frazzle he decided to say fuck it and and go solo. :lol
Not quite. Stock investments yield dividends. There is no requirement to sell anything. Index funds don't re-allocate actively, they simply track markets, which produces far less churn.
Even factoring in living expenses into the "mutual fund" scenario, it would not affect the ultimate outcome in a material way.
Real estate per se doesn't generate jobs, after the initial construction. Companies that fill the real estate do.
Still not overly impressed with Mr. Trumps business performance. It is nothing really to brag about, and the fact that he forced creditors to pay for his very costly mistakes is certainly a point against him.
Dividends are taxed. Are you saying that companies don't move in and out of the S&P 500? When companies are moved out of the S&P500, those stocks are sold. Do you think Trump lived on air all those 34 years? I think he has SIGNIFICANT expenses at the level that he lives at - he flies around in a private jet. Part of the comparison between the real estate vs index funds includes the ability of his real estate company to provide jobs for his kids, in-laws, etc. Their livelihoods are a direct result of Trump's real estate company - not so with index funds.
FuzzyLumpkins
02-26-2016, 12:39 PM
We can't be held responsible for what David Duke says or what Hitler (if he were alive) might have said about Trump.
Thanks Nero
If Trump gets the nomination, looks like a Trump/Christie ticket - he just opened Trump's news conference. Says he's gonna been with Trump till November.
:lmao they weren't kidding when get said big announcement. :lmao
Christie creme is doing a world class job blowing Trump.
This man is amazing! He's always got an ace up his sleeve! Trump! Trump! Trump!
Another pushy, fighting guy - thought Trump said vp (I'm assuming) shouldn't be another of him - but maybe that's what the base wants, people to fight for them. And since Rubio looks to be the major competition and Christie damaged him earlier - good pickup by Trump.
Trump made Christie his bitch quick. He's like a lap dog. :lol
If Christie might be Trump's running mate, it might cause Kaisch to drop out of the race if he was holding out for VP.
If Christie might be Trump's running mate, it might cause Kaisch to drop out of the race if he was holding out for VP.
Trump pretty much confirmed Christie as his guy.
Two bullies. Things could get even more insufferable now.
Aztecfan03
02-26-2016, 01:17 PM
This man is amazing! He's always got an ace up his sleeve! Trump! Trump! Trump!
:lmao Christie an ace up anyones sleeve.... :lmao
There was a reason why Christie couldn't even get 5 percent in the voting. :lol
Trump pretty much confirmed Christie as his guy.
Two bullies. Things could get even more insufferable now.
I mean that Kaisch dropping out early is not good for Trump - he needs a divided field.
Splits
02-26-2016, 01:57 PM
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Mitch
02-26-2016, 02:08 PM
:lol Woke up and saw some of the rally, Trump just made Rubio the next Jeb!
elbamba
02-26-2016, 02:10 PM
Rubio rattled him that much last night.
And that ladies and gents, is Trump in a nutshell.
He just said he would past some kind of law to suit the press if they talk bad about him.
Dirk Oneanddoneski
02-26-2016, 02:22 PM
:lol Woke up and saw some of the rally, Trump just made Rubio the next Jeb!
Trump is siccing the Sistas on fag spic
http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-stump-for-trump-girls-just-said-that-marco-rubio-had-a-gay-lifestyle-in-the-past/
It amazes me how this guy talks about abolishing amnendments and people cheer him for it. :lmao
Mitch
02-26-2016, 02:28 PM
Trump is siccing the Sistas on fag spic
http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-stump-for-trump-girls-just-said-that-marco-rubio-had-a-gay-lifestyle-in-the-past/
:lol I expect Rubio to win zero states this coming tuesday. Just a lot of 2nd place points to justify staying in the race and Cruz will probably get Texas and talk about winning Texas until the convention.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/02/26/trump-wants-to-destroy-first-amendment.html?via=twitter_page
America errrone
Aztecfan03
02-26-2016, 02:50 PM
It amazes me how this guy talks about abolishing amnendments and people cheer him for it. :lmao
Not surprising that he wants to. Liberals hate the constitution.
hater
02-26-2016, 02:51 PM
:lmao holy shit
checkmate. Rubio is done. Can you believe the GOP Bubbas voting for a gay man :lol
he's done
damn Trump just won himself the nomination :wow
hater
02-26-2016, 02:52 PM
can Mitch Romney still come back? :lol
Mitch
02-26-2016, 03:25 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/02/26/trump-wants-to-destroy-first-amendment.html?via=twitter_page
America errrone
Libel should be punished, tbh
MultiTroll
02-26-2016, 03:37 PM
:lmao holy shit
checkmate. Rubio is done. Can you believe the GOP Bubbas voting for a gay man :lol
he's done
damn Trump just won himself the nomination :wow
Will the next debate moderator bring this up?
No way, too p.c.?
ChumpDumper
02-26-2016, 03:43 PM
:lmao holy shit
checkmate. Rubio is done. Can you believe the GOP Bubbas voting for a gay man :lol
he's done
damn Trump just won himself the nomination :wowGOP Bubbas believe gossip from black women?
If you say so.
If Donald Trump goes there (referencing Rubio as gay), then you'll know ALL bets are off. This shit could get really good.
hater
02-26-2016, 04:04 PM
GOP Bubbas believe gossip from black women?
If you say so.
Pay attention. The rubio info is all over the nets
ChumpDumper
02-26-2016, 04:07 PM
Pay attention. The rubio info is all over the netslink some of it.
hater
02-26-2016, 04:09 PM
link some of it.
Pay attention. Dirk oneowsky alrady posted it
ChumpDumper
02-26-2016, 04:15 PM
Pay attention. Dirk oneowsky alrady posted itIt's all over the nets and you haven't found any on your own?
lol hater
hater
02-26-2016, 04:34 PM
It's all over the nets and you haven't found any on your own?
lol hater
lol not paying attention and asking for help. HINT: look at Dirk ONeandonski's recent posts :rolleyes
Splits
02-26-2016, 04:42 PM
Q7kfT4xRFhk
:lol
Q7kfT4xRFhk
:lol
Can't believe Rubio tried to get Trump on repeating himself. Trump is nothing if not entertaining - definitely not robotic.
Q7kfT4xRFhk
:lol
Unbelievable indeed!
LkrFan
02-26-2016, 05:30 PM
x4OwJOVi0ec
:lmao
Splits
02-26-2016, 05:30 PM
OwdbhtLV08s
:lol going after those huge Rubio ears
hater
02-26-2016, 05:37 PM
:lmao holy shit
he's turning it up a notch
can you imagine what he'll do to Shillary :wow
President Trump. damn holy shit. it's happening
ChumpDumper
02-26-2016, 06:11 PM
lol not paying attention and asking for help. HINT: look at Dirk ONeandonski's recent posts :rolleyeslol hater can't even find one link on his own after claimin it's "all :cryver the nets"
MultiTroll
02-26-2016, 07:39 PM
lol hater can't even find one link on his own after claimin it's "all :cryver the nets"
Trying to sell that you don't know where a gay website is not going so well eh Rumpy?
Trump is at it again in OKC.
Splits
02-26-2016, 08:42 PM
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CosmicCowboy
02-26-2016, 09:18 PM
lol hater can't even find one link on his own after claimin it's "all :cryver the nets"
I'm with Chump on this one. I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about so I bit...went and googled "Rubio Gay Rumors".
Seriously? You somehow deduced Rubio was gay from THAT shit? Old high school friend of a guy whose dad rented a house to someone that got busted for producing some gay porn? how fucking big of a stretch is THAT?
baseline bum
02-26-2016, 09:36 PM
703366930439143424
:lmao
Hater is all talk, no substance.
Has anyone seeing his NBA predictions and takes? :lol
Guy doesn't know what he's typing most of the time.
Mitch
02-26-2016, 10:54 PM
Hater is all talk, no substance.
Has anyone seeing his NBA predictions and takes? :lol
Guy doesn't know what he's typing most of the time.
TBH, Reck, why do you like Rubio?
I think Trump is entertaining and all, but I don't see any reason to hover towards Rubio like you seem to :lol
TBH, Reck, why do you like Rubio?
I think Trump is entertaining and all, but I don't see any reason to hover towards Rubio like you seem to :lol
Well shit, I thought you were doing the same, but with Trump. :lol
He seems to be the normal of the 3 tbh. Trump is a caricature and Cruz is downright creepy/insane.
Gotta go with the guy who will do the less damage if by some misfortune the republicans win.
My real pick is Bernie though.
Mitch
02-27-2016, 12:24 AM
Well shit, I thought you were doing the same, but with Trump. :lol
He seems to be the normal of the 3 tbh. Trump is a caricature and Cruz is downright creepy/insane.
Gotta go with the guy who will do the less damage if by some misfortune the republicans win.
My real pick is Bernie though.
Bernie is pretty much done at this point, can't see him gaining any momentum and the super dels are going to be the nail in the coffin if he even gets close to hillary.
Even if polls say Rubio can beat hillary, I don't see it. The guy isn't a good speaker, he'll get destroyed by Hillary camp and boom we have probably the worst candidate next to Cruz winning.
Hillary would eat Rubio's lunch in a debate... and drink his water.
Bernie is pretty much done at this point, can't see him gaining any momentum and the super dels are going to be the nail in the coffin if he even gets close to hillary.
Even if polls say Rubio can beat hillary, I don't see it. The guy isn't a good speaker, he'll get destroyed by Hillary camp and boom we have probably the worst candidate next to Cruz.
I agree on that.
But against Hillary Trump wouldn't be able to pull all the shit he's been able to pull on Jeb and Rubio. She's tougher than those 2 put together. She's another bully.
Mitch
02-27-2016, 12:44 AM
I agree on that.
But against Hillary Trump wouldn't be able to pull all the shit he's been able to pull on Jeb and Rubio. She's tougher than those 2 put together. She's another bully.
Trump is the question mark, he always is. Whatever he does, whether it gets a good reaction or a bad one, only adds to his support. You keep thinking the guy fucked up, but the next day he's doing better in polls.
If he's there running against Hillary, it'll be a close race unless someone shits the bed. If he runs against Sanders, as unlikely as that is, then I don't see Trump winning.
Nbadan
02-27-2016, 01:30 AM
Trump is the question mark, he always is. Whatever he does, whether it gets a good reaction or a bad one, only adds to his support. You keep thinking the guy fucked up, but the next day he's doing better in polls.
If he's there running against Hillary, it'll be a close race unless someone shits the bed. If he runs against Sanders, as unlikely as that is, then I don't see Trump winning.
Well.....let's see who the VP candidates are.....
Hillary would be smart to pick Castro...with black and Hispanic support, barring a major misstep, she is almost guaranteed the South...Trump has not endured himself to the Hispanic community with all this talk of forced deportations...I don't think Donald can do anything to repair that relationship...
Nbadan
02-27-2016, 01:33 AM
Bernie would be smart to pick Warren, but Warren hasn't expressed any interest in a Sanders/Warren ticket...Bernie's next best pick would be Castro but again, if Hillary promises Castro another Cabinet position...Castro could stay pro-Hillary...
Nbadan
02-27-2016, 01:41 AM
Trump would probably pick a moderate Republican....maybe Kasich....but to have any chance of winning nationally, trump needs to spit the Hispanic vote and turn blacks off of Hillary, otherwise he's going to lose major swing states like Florida Ohio, and Colorado ...
Well shit, I thought you were doing the same, but with Trump. :lol
He seems to be the normal of the 3 tbh. Trump is a caricature and Cruz is downright creepy/insane.
Gotta go with the guy who will do the less damage if by some misfortune the republicans win.
My real pick is Bernie though.
Rubio is the sponsor of I-squared bill which may almost quadruple the number of H1-B visas (foreign workers - mostly Indians for high tech jobs). There is no shortage of high tech American workers.
ChumpDumper
02-27-2016, 02:51 AM
Trying to sell that you don't know where a gay website is not going so well eh Rumpy?Rent free.
Wonder if this partnership with Christie is Trump heeding the Pope's walls and BRIDGES suggestion.
boutons_deux
02-27-2016, 06:52 AM
Kasich "sounds" reasonable, rational, in debates, but you "beauty contest voters" are all wrong about Kasich being moderate.
He sounds moderate compared to very low bar of the rest of the Repug assholes, but his record is as extreme, as nasty as any, plus he, too, was a Wall St banker who won't touch BigFinance, except to gut/kill CFPB, SEC, IRS, etc.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/law-john-kasich-wrote-now-keeping-food-stamps-minorities-ohio
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/ohios-kasich-slashes-planned-parenthood-funding?cid=sm_fb_maddow
Anyway, Kasich is polling behind Trump in OH.
Splits
02-27-2016, 01:31 PM
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Splits
02-27-2016, 03:50 PM
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Clinton already digging into Trump.
Dude has no chance against her. Tonight it became clear.
Clinton already digging into Trump.
Dude has no chance against her. Tonight it became clear.
Things will change once Trump puts her in his crosshairs.
CosmicCowboy
02-27-2016, 09:06 PM
I am no trump fanboy but I think he would destroy Hillary in a debate. Maybe 20 years ago but she is old and slow with a trainload of baggage.
ChumpDumper
02-27-2016, 09:09 PM
Well, if the debate just consisted of personal insults Trump would win. I can't say I've ever heard him give a substantive policy answer to any question ever though.
Things will change once Trump puts her in his crosshairs.
That's the point. She's the one going after him, not the other way.
She just made a little comment that counts for little but at least she's firing first.
This is not like a Jeb or Rubio thing where they wait 7 months too late to stand up.
spurraider21
02-27-2016, 09:14 PM
Well, if the debate just consisted of personal insults Trump would win. I can't say I've ever heard him give a substantive policy answer to any question ever though.
what about the wall
Splits
02-27-2016, 09:16 PM
what about the wall
:lmao "it just got 10 feet higher" is very substantive.
spurraider21
02-27-2016, 09:17 PM
:lmao "it just got 10 feet higher" is very substantive.
i wasn't being serious
ChumpDumper
02-27-2016, 09:19 PM
what about the wallKey word: "substantive."
lol
angrydude
02-28-2016, 01:23 AM
Like any politician ever gives a real substantive answer.....more like a rehearsed 3 to 4 sentence answer that sounds intelligent but says absolutely nothing....and like they ever enact any of their "substantive" campaign promises once elected.
ChumpDumper
02-28-2016, 02:13 AM
Like any politician ever gives a real substantive answer.....more like a rehearsed 3 to 4 sentence answer that sounds intelligent but says absolutely nothing....and like they ever enact any of their "substantive" campaign promises once elected.I've heard plenty of substantive answers from politicians -- not usually in "debates" but in interviews and the like.
Not from Trump.
djohn2oo8
02-28-2016, 08:09 AM
Hillary would eat Rubio's lunch in a debate... and drink his water.
This.
Dirk Oneanddoneski
02-28-2016, 01:04 PM
http://i.imgur.com/B3xXMIi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MfyPBZj.jpg
Mitch
02-28-2016, 02:08 PM
Man retweets a quote and the media goes crazy :lol
KobeOwnsDuncan
02-28-2016, 02:37 PM
:lol Cruz saying Trump wont release his tax returns because he paid the mob. What a clownshow
Man retweets a quote and the media goes crazy :lol
It's ridiculous... Of course Trump knew who said the quote. The dude's twitter handle was "Il Duce" for Christ's sake. Trump just retweeted because it was an interesting quote. Nothing more, nothing less.
Mitch
02-28-2016, 03:12 PM
It's ridiculous... Of course Trump knew who said the quote. The dude's twitter handle was "Il Duce" for Christ's sake. Trump just retweeted because it was an interesting quote. Nothing more, nothing less.
It is a pretty good quote, tbh. Hitler had some good ones too
All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.
- Adolf Hitler
spurraider21
02-28-2016, 03:36 PM
i get why people don't like trump, but where do they get the whole "he's an authoritarian" thing from?
Splits
02-28-2016, 03:49 PM
i get why people don't like trump, but where do they get the whole "he's an authoritarian" thing from?
It's not necessarily he is the authoritarian, it's that his voters are. This is from January:
If I asked you what most defines Donald Trump supporters, what would you say? They’re white? They’re poor? They’re uneducated?
You’d be wrong.
In fact, I’ve found a single statistically significant variable predicts whether a voter supports Trump—and it’s not race, income or education levels: It’s authoritarianism.
That’s right, Trump’s electoral strength—and his staying power—have been buoyed, above all, by Americans with authoritarian inclinations. And because of the prevalence of authoritarians in the American electorate, among Democrats as well as Republicans, it’s very possible that Trump’s fan base will continue to grow.
My finding is the result of a national poll I conducted in the last five days of December under the auspices of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, sampling 1,800 registered voters across the country and the political spectrum. Running a standard statistical analysis, I found that education, income, gender, age, ideology and religiosity had no significant bearing on a Republican voter’s preferred candidate. Only two of the variables I looked at were statistically significant: authoritarianism, followed by fear of terrorism, though the former was far more significant than the latter.
Authoritarianism is not a new, untested concept in the American electorate. Since the rise of Nazi Germany, it has been one of the most widely studied ideas in social science. While its causes are still debated, the political behavior of authoritarians is not. Authoritarians obey. They rally to and follow strong leaders. And they respond aggressively to outsiders, especially when they feel threatened. From pledging to “make America great again” by building a wall on the border to promising to close mosques and ban Muslims from visiting the United States, Trump is playing directly to authoritarian inclinations.
Not all authoritarians are Republicans by any means; in national surveys since 1992, many authoritarians have also self-identified as independents and Democrats. And in the 2008 Democratic primary, the political scientist Marc Hetherington found that authoritarianism mattered more than income, ideology, gender, age and education in predicting whether voters preferred Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama. But Hetherington has also found, based on 14 years of polling, that authoritarians have steadily moved from the Democratic to the Republican Party over time. He hypothesizes that the trend began decades ago, as Democrats embraced civil rights, gay rights, employment protections and other political positions valuing freedom and equality. In my poll results, authoritarianism was not a statistically significant factor in the Democratic primary race, at least not so far, but it does appear to be playing an important role on the Republican side. Indeed, 49 percent of likely Republican primary voters I surveyed score in the top quarter of the authoritarian scale—more than twice as many as Democratic voters.
Political pollsters have missed this key component of Trump’s support because they simply don’t include questions about authoritarianism in their polls. In addition to the typical battery of demographic, horse race, thermometer-scale and policy questions, my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is more important for the voter to have a child who is respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.
Based on these questions, Trump was the only candidate—Republican or Democrat—whose support among authoritarians was statistically significant.
So what does this mean for the election? It doesn’t just help us understand what motivates Trump’s backers—it suggests that his support isn’t capped. In a statistical analysis of the polling results, I found that Trump has already captured 43 percent of Republican primary voters who are strong authoritarians, and 37 percent of Republican authoritarians overall. A majority of Republican authoritarians in my poll also strongly supported Trump’s proposals to deport 11 million illegal immigrants, prohibit Muslims from entering the United States, shutter mosques and establish a nationwide database that track Muslims.
And in a general election, Trump’s strongman rhetoric will surely appeal to some of the 39 percent of independents in my poll who identify as authoritarians and the 17 percent of self-identified Democrats who are strong authoritarians.
What’s more, the number of Americans worried about the threat of terrorism is growing. In 2011, Hetherington published research finding that non-authoritarians respond to the perception of threat by behaving more like authoritarians. More fear and more threats—of the kind we’ve seen recently in the San Bernardino and Paris terrorist attacks—mean more voters are susceptible to Trump’s message about protecting Americans. In my survey, 52 percent of those voters expressing the most fear that another terrorist attack will occur in the United States in the next 12 months were non-authoritarians—ripe targets for Trump’s message.
Take activated authoritarians from across the partisan spectrum and the growing cadre of threatened non-authoritarians, then add them to the base of Republican general election voters, and the potential electoral path to a Trump presidency becomes clearer.
So, those who say a Trump presidency “can’t happen here” should check their conventional wisdom at the door. The candidate has confounded conventional expectations this primary season because those expectations are based on an oversimplified caricature of the electorate in general and his supporters in particular. Conditions are ripe for an authoritarian leader to emerge. Trump is seizing the opportunity. And the institutions—from the Republican Party to the press—that are supposed to guard against what James Madison called “the infection of violent passions” among the people have either been cowed by Trump’s bluster or are asleep on the job.
It is time for those who would appeal to our better angels to take his insurgency seriously and stop dismissing his supporters as a small band of the dispossessed. Trump support is firmly rooted in American authoritarianism and, once awakened, it is a force to be reckoned with. That means it’s also time for political pollsters to take authoritarianism seriously and begin measuring it in their polls.
Mitch
02-28-2016, 03:51 PM
i get why people don't like trump, but where do they get the whole "he's an authoritarian" thing from?
The media has been using that term a lot and it stuck with the anti-trump crowd. Funny that the smear campaign against Trump is just sticking with the guys who aren't voting for him in the first place :lol
spurraider21
02-28-2016, 03:54 PM
It's not necessarily he is the authoritarian, it's that his voters are. This is from January:
ok. so when people call trump himself authoritarian, they're reaching. got it.
Splits
02-28-2016, 04:05 PM
ok. so when people call trump himself authoritarian, they're reaching. got it.
That's my take. His rhetoric plays to what they want to hear. Deport 11 million people without due process. Make torture a formally declared policy of our government. Physical violence against protesters at his rallies. Get rid of this amendment (1st), maximize that one (2nd).
"You're fired" doesn't work when you only control 1/3 branches of government, yet makes up the core of his "pitch" to voters.
spurraider21
02-28-2016, 04:15 PM
That's my take. His rhetoric plays to what they want to hear. Deport 11 million people without due process. Make torture a formally declared policy of our government. Physical violence against protesters at his rallies. Get rid of this amendment (1st), maximize that one (2nd).
"You're fired" doesn't work when you only control 1/3 branches of government, yet makes up the core of his "pitch" to voters.
exactly, no matter what happens, he's only going to be controlling 1/3 branches of government. authoritarianism/tyranny is usually when one guy calls all the shots, silences dissenters, etc. kicking people out of rallys is nothing special, shillary did that do the blm peeps too
The politicians on both sides are corrupt - controlled by donors. They are not doing what is right for America but for their donors and themselves. Trump is not controlled by anyone - that's why he's being ridiculed/blasted by the establishment on both sides. Call him whatever you want, but at least he's no one's puppet.
Splits
02-28-2016, 04:26 PM
exactly, no matter what happens, he's only going to be controlling 1/3 branches of government. authoritarianism/tyranny is usually when one guy calls all the shots, silences dissenters, etc. kicking people out of rallys is nothing special, shillary did that do the blm peeps too
I don't think I've heard any other candidate long for a protester to be "carried out on a stretcher" or "punched in the face".
Splits
02-28-2016, 04:32 PM
How We Fooled Donald Trump Into Retweeting Benito Mussolini (http://gawker.com/how-we-fooled-donald-trump-into-retweeting-benito-musso-1761795039)
Alex Pareene (http://kinja.com/pareene), Today 11:03am (http://gawker.com/how-we-fooled-donald-trump-into-retweeting-benito-musso-1761795039)
Is Donald Trump a fascist? Experts, historians, and pundits have debated the question for months. One thing has been certain for a while now: He tweets like one. That’s why, last year, Gawker’s Ashley Feinberg (https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg) created a Twitter bot that would post quotes from the writings and speeches of the Italian fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, but with all of them attributed to businessman and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. This morning, he retweeted that account.
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Twitter is Trump’s preferred social media platform for direct communication with his followers, haters, and—most importantly—the journalists who obsessively cover his carnival-like presidential campaign. It’s where Trump goes to personally insult his enemies and opponents, but it’s also where he seeks evidence of his greatness, and regularly retweets (in his idiosyncratic style, quoting entire tweets rather than using the network’s built-in retweet tool) praise for himself.
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Lj5gWhad--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/vceo4i1hvn3paevgh37i.png
Gawker internal chat log, November 30, 2015.
Last year, we set a trap for Trump. We came up with the idea for that Mussolini bot under the assumption that Trump would retweet just about anything, no matter how dubious or vile the source, as long as it sounded like praise for himself. (It helps that that a number of Mussolini’s quotes sound plausibly like lines from Trump’s myriad books.) The account, @ilduce2016 (https://twitter.com/ilduce2016), was created by Gawker senior writer Ashley Feinberg and Gawker Media Editorial Labs director Adam Pash. It has tweeted solely at Donald Trump, multiple times a day, since December 2015.
Our Fascist bot was anything but subtle. It was, after all, directly named after Mussolini. The New York Times today (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/28/donald-trump-retweets-post-likening-him-to-mussolini/?smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur&_r=0)swiftly recognized that it was a parody account. At the time of the account’s creation, Gawker Media Executive Editor John Cook expressed some concern that the joke behind the account was far too obvious, and wouldn’t trick anyone but a complete idiot.
Today, Donald Trump proved him—and all of us—right.
Mitch
02-28-2016, 04:46 PM
I don't think I've heard any other candidate long for a protester to be "carried out on a stretcher" or "punched in the face".
And see his polls rise while doing it :lmao
It's like living in fucking cartoon world.
KobeOwnsDuncan
02-28-2016, 04:48 PM
No way in hell do they do this
http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/claim-gop-plots-secret-plan-to-elect-hillary-block-trump/
Pelicans78
02-28-2016, 04:52 PM
No way in hell do they do this
http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/claim-gop-plots-secret-plan-to-elect-hillary-block-trump/
It's too late. They can't do anything now. Trump will win the nomination and start an ugly fight with Hillary.
Aztecfan03
02-28-2016, 09:40 PM
exactly, no matter what happens, he's only going to be controlling 1/3 branches of government. authoritarianism/tyranny is usually when one guy calls all the shots, silences dissenters, etc. kicking people out of rallys is nothing special, shillary did that do the blm peeps too
Obama and his executive orders are pretty authoritarian and Trump would continue that.
baseline bum
02-28-2016, 10:34 PM
It's too late. They can't do anything now. Trump will win the nomination and start an ugly fight with Hillary.
If it wasn't for the House being taken over by the teabaggers I'd vote Romney over Clinton in a second. But the Republican party isn't an option for me as long as they're beholden to the teabagger vote, and that's not going away for a long time thanks to gerrymandering. I would have taken Reagan or Bush 41 over Clinton too, at least they were willing to put money into scientific research instead of calling evolution a hoax, global warming a conspiracy theory, etc like the teabag loonies.
Obama and his executive orders are pretty authoritarian...
Hardly... and they're within the letter of the law (at least as of now).
boutons_deux
02-28-2016, 11:14 PM
Obama and his executive orders are pretty authoritarian and Trump would continue that.
Obama's exec orders are perfectly legal. You rightwingnut assholes would love a Repug Pres to do the same.
Trump doesn't give the tiniest shit about actually governing, so at there the entire Repug party and Trump are in perfect agreement.
Obama's exec orders, which his attempt to goven, are NOTHING compared 6+ years of the Repugs' STRICT OBSTRUCTIONISM.
Repugs haven't execte the tiniest shit of governance, which is exactly as planned.
baseline bum
02-28-2016, 11:19 PM
What's funny is if Romney hadn't bowed to the teabaggers with the Ryan VP pick he'd probably be in a race for re-election in 2016. I'll never understand picking up the kill medicare guy to solidify a voting bloc that was 100% against the ###### anyways.
KobeOwnsDuncan
02-28-2016, 11:25 PM
What's funny is if Romney hadn't bowed to the teabaggers with the Ryan VP pick he'd probably be in a race for re-election in 2016. I'll never understand picking up the kill medicare guy to solidify a voting bloc that was 100% against the ###### anyways.
The 47 percent remark is another thing that doomed Romney.
baseline bum
02-28-2016, 11:28 PM
The 47 percent remark is another thing that doomed Romney.
That kind of ties into the Ryan pick, why in the hell did he go so far right when he had a centrist record that would have gotten him elected against such a weak incumbent?
Compared to Trump, Romney is solid as fuck. :lol
Shastafarian
02-28-2016, 11:41 PM
The politicians on both sides are corrupt - controlled by donors. They are not doing what is right for America but for their donors and themselves. Trump is not controlled by anyone - that's why he's being ridiculed/blasted by the establishment on both sides.
No. He's being ridiculed by liberals because he's a bigoted con-artist who has more similarities with Hitler than anyone running for President since Strom Thurmond.
Call him whatever you want, but at least he's no one's puppet.
Funny, he kind of LOOKS like a puppet.
boutons_deux
02-28-2016, 11:49 PM
That kind of ties into the Ryan pick, why in the hell did he go so far right
RomneyCare was a govt solution, which is HATED by conservatives whose ideology says NOTHING GOOD (for the 99%) can come from govt.
Bishop Gekko tried to be pure and hard right to appease the tea baggers and extremists.
baseline bum
02-28-2016, 11:54 PM
RomneyCare was a govt solution, which is HATED by conservatives whose ideology says NOTHING GOOD (for the 99%) can come from govt.
Bishop Gekko tried to be pure and hard right to appease the tea baggers and extremists.
Of course he had to do that in the primaries, but I have no clue why he went even further right in the general election. He could have just ran as a centrist and then governed as a wingnut later. Anyone but Obama was the rally cry of the far right voters anyways.
No. He's being ridiculed by liberals because he's a bigoted con-artist who has more similarities with Hitler than anyone running for President since Strom Thurmond.
Funny, he kind of LOOKS like a puppet.
My statement is in response to the above article about authoritarian. Regarding your bolded statement, it isn't only liberals who are criticizing him - the conservatives (see National Review) and republican establishment are against him too.
ElNono
02-29-2016, 03:21 AM
The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter
And it’s not gender, age, income, race or religion.
By Matthew MacWilliams - January 17, 2016
If I asked you what most defines Donald Trump supporters, what would you say? They’re white? They’re poor? They’re uneducated?
You’d be wrong.
In fact, I’ve found a single statistically significant variable predicts whether a voter supports Trump—and it’s not race, income or education levels: It’s authoritarianism.
That’s right, Trump’s electoral strength—and his staying power—have been buoyed, above all, by Americans with authoritarian inclinations. And because of the prevalence of authoritarians in the American electorate, among Democrats as well as Republicans, it’s very possible that Trump’s fan base will continue to grow.
My finding is the result of a national poll I conducted in the last five days of December under the auspices of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, sampling 1,800 registered voters across the country and the political spectrum. Running a standard statistical analysis, I found that education, income, gender, age, ideology and religiosity had no significant bearing on a Republican voter’s preferred candidate. Only two of the variables I looked at were statistically significant: authoritarianism, followed by fear of terrorism, though the former was far more significant than the latter.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533
boutons_deux
02-29-2016, 07:30 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strongman_(politics)
nothing new about (American) losers wanting a Strongman to make them winners, and "make America great again".
Trump is conning his supporters, and won't do shit for those losers, like $15/hour minimum wage, universal Medicare replacing predatory BigInsurance, etc, etc. Not a fucking thing for them. But he'll cut his own taxes by $100ms.
That's why ALL politicians run for office: to get (more) wealthy.
Shastafarian
02-29-2016, 09:15 AM
My statement is in response to the above article about authoritarian. Regarding your bolded statement, it isn't only liberals who are criticizing him - the conservatives (see National Review) and republican establishment are against him too.
What exactly did I misunderstand about this:
Trump is not controlled by anyone - that's why he's being ridiculed/blasted by the establishment on both sides. Call him whatever you want, but at least he's no one's puppet.He is meeting opposition on the republican side because they can't control him. To a lesser extent, they don't like his racism, sexism, or past "liberal" policies. People on the left criticize him because he's a disgusting human being.
The race is OVER. Trump has already strong-armed his way to the nomination. If someone steals the nomination from him, he is just going to go independent to screw the GOP. There's nothing they can do at this point. It's either promote Trump or nothing.
cd021
02-29-2016, 01:51 PM
The race is OVER. Trump has already strong-armed his way to the nomination. If someone steals the nomination from him, he is just going to go independent to screw the GOP. There's nothing they can do at this point. It's either promote Trump or nothing.
Would have to think that they would disown trump or risk doing irreparable damage to the party. He's being endorced by hate group and David Duke, it doens't help that the GOP has long been assciated with racism. If he is nominated the Democrats are probably doing a 90/80/80 in Black, Asian, Hispanic turnout.
The third party angle is interesting, obviously it would torpedo any chance of a conservative in the white house though.
hater
02-29-2016, 01:54 PM
By endorsing Trump David duke is just following everyone in the smear campaign. Can't believe ppl in here don't realize :lol
boutons_deux
02-29-2016, 02:12 PM
"GOP has long been assciated with racism"
:lol GOP has long been, for 60 years, the party of racists
ducks
02-29-2016, 02:16 PM
donkeys think blacks have more rights then whites
and gays have more rights then straights
donkeys think blacks have more rights then whites
and gays have more rights then straights
No, dolt. Democrats thinks these groups have equal rights, but your analysis is cute.
Dirk Oneanddoneski
02-29-2016, 05:45 PM
black trump supporter on the Duke endorsement on MSNBC
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How would Trump supporters, who Trump believes would still support him even if he shot someone in the street (LMAO), react if the establishment stole away the nomination from Trump?
baseline bum
02-29-2016, 06:06 PM
How would Trump supporters, who Trump believes would still support him even if he shot someone in the street (LMAO), react if the establishment stole away the nomination from Trump?
They'd blame Obama
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