Church of Trump

[FromWayDowntown]

Is Jeff Bezos running for president?

That's right. Trump was free to do whatever he liked in his own personal life and avoid much meaningful scrutiny for how he did it.

He and his surrogates seem to think that he should be allowed to run for President without subjecting his life to the sort of scrutiny that other presidential candidates have been held to -- and the very standard that he insists upon from those he questions in the political sphere.

The only thing that might outstrip Trump's hypocrisy is his narcissism.

At that, I continue to be flabergasted that anyone would actually believe that Trump is in any way, shape or form "for the little guy" or outside the establishment. Neither of those things is even remotely true, and that's not even a subjective view of things. His history shows that he'll gladly screw the little guy if it means a few more bucks in his pocket, and anyone who uses his fortune to peddle influence at any level of government isn't an "outsider;" he's just not been elected.

And the notion that a President can make change because he's the President is absurd, too. As the last 4 years of the current Administration pretty readily demonstrate, the President can offer change and urge it, but he can't insist upon it. The idea that Trump, who doesn't even enjoy much more than begrudging support from his own party, can waltz into Washington, completely change the way that DC operates, and mandate change would be a reasonable belief if you were convinced that Trump would scrap the Constitution and appoint himself King, but he can't do that. As a President his broadly stated (and largely impractical and wildly unprincipled) ideas depend upon the will of Congress and it's fair to wonder if he'll be able to accomplish anything given his scorched earth political style to this point.

[CosmicCowboy]

You are referring to taxes you pay through your business. Why was Donald taking close to a billion loss on his individual tax return?

It works the same way. If he invested a billion dollars of his personal money that he had already paid taxes on and lost 900 million he has a legitimate net loss carry forward of 900 million. Do you really think the IRS didn't check to see if it was legitimate?

[rmt]

That's right. Trump was free to do whatever he liked in his own personal life and avoid much meaningful scrutiny for how he did it.

He and his surrogates seem to think that he should be allowed to run for President without subjecting his life to the sort of scrutiny that other presidential candidates have been held to -- and the very standard that he insists upon from those he questions in the political sphere.

The only thing that might outstrip Trump's hypocrisy is his narcissism.

At that, I continue to be flabergasted that anyone would actually believe that Trump is in any way, shape or form "for the little guy" or outside the establishment. Neither of those things is even remotely true, and that's not even a subjective view of things. His history shows that he'll gladly screw the little guy if it means a few more bucks in his pocket, and anyone who uses his fortune to peddle influence at any level of government isn't an "outsider;" he's just not been elected.

And the notion that a President can make change because he's the President is absurd, too. As the last 4 years of the current Administration pretty readily demonstrate, the President can offer change and urge it, but he can't insist upon it. The idea that Trump, who doesn't even enjoy much more than begrudging support from his own party, can waltz into Washington, completely change the way that DC operates, and mandate change would be a reasonable belief if you were convinced that Trump would scrap the Constitution and appoint himself King, but he can't do that. As a President his broadly stated (and largely impractical and wildly unprincipled) ideas depend upon the will of Congress and it's fair to wonder if he'll be able to accomplish anything given his scorched earth political style to this point.

It is hypocritical of Hillary to call out Trump on using carried losses when she herself is using it. I'll give you his narcissism.

It's strange to hear you all rail against these (bankruptcy/tax) laws that are rigging the system - well, Hillary's been there forever (can't tout all that experience and not take responsibility for what happened under your watch) but most of you are gonna vote for this corrupt person who takes millions from countries which are anti-women, anti-gay, etc and vote for things that are detrimental to Americans.

Ditto for Hillary and her free tuition/health, forgiveness of college debt, and whatever she's promising these days.

[hater]

A billionaire that avoids as much tax as posible. Imagine that :lmao

Are american ppl this stupid donthey not know how billionaires become billionaires?

[rmt]

EVERYONE avoids as much tax as posible. Imagine that :lmao

[hitmanyr2k]

Name 1 specific reason or policy that makes you think Trump is willing or able to "upset the corruption". His tax policy is designed to be a windfall for himself. His energy and regulatory policies are a rehash of the "establishment" that you despise. He wants to boost defence spending massively while cutting taxes and keeping entitlements as-is. He whines about the debt but wants to add a boatload of new debt. He has not identified 1 specific, quantified spending cut. His proposed trade war is enough to kick off another recession.

On the other hand, his history suggests he would expand corruption. He likes cronies who agree with him, and is likely to appoint yes-men rather than competent people around him. At least one of his businesses (Trump U) was a scam. He was sued and/or fined repeatedly for skirting laws both in the real estate and casino businesses. He's been using both his charity and campaign funds for personal gain. He has bribed state officials to avoid Trump University investigations.

We get it - you don't like the status quo and want to change something. But electing Trump is equivalent to lobbing a hand grenade into a car and hoping that the explosion will fix the engine trouble you've been having. There is no upside, and plenty of downside.

I noticed all of the idiot zealots avoided this very truthful post :lol

[FromWayDowntown]

It is hypocritical of Hillary to call out Trump on using carried losses when she herself is using it. I'll give you his narcissism.

I'm not comparing Hillary to Trump; I'm comparing Trump to Trump -- and Trump has been riling crowds by saying he's going to make certain people (hedge fund managers, for instance) "pay their fair share," but he's unwilling to do that himself, with regard to taxes OR his obligations to creditors. That's his own hypocrisy and it's the very thing that informs the view that anyone thinking Trump is for the little guy either has a red team blindspot or is pretty badly uninformed. And that's my ultimate point with respect to the tax issues.


It's strange to hear you all rail against these (bankruptcy/tax) laws that are rigging the system - well, Hillary's been there forever (can't tout all that experience and not take responsibility for what happened under your watch)

I'm not railing against bankruptcy or tax laws. Trump rigs the system for himself in a lot of different ways that make him anything but an outsider. Whatever fortune he's grown, from whatever its source and whatever loopholes he's exploited to gain it, has put him in a position to use his wealth to influence officials, move policy, and to gain benefits from government that most Americans could never obtain. And the idea that his Presidency (should it ever come to pass) won't be significantly aimed at ensuring that whatever else changes in Washington, nothing of that change meaningfully affects him or his wealth is ludicrous. So, essentially, he's an "outsider" who's used his wealth to gain influence and is now trying to use that wealth to protect his own interests.


but most of you are gonna vote for this corrupt person who takes millions from countries which are anti-women, anti-gay, etc and vote for things that are detrimental to Americans.

What? Like requiring the rich to actually pay a representative amount of taxes relative to the rest of Americans?

[rmt]

but most of you are gonna vote for this corrupt person who TOOK millions from countries which are anti-women, anti-gay, etc and WHO VOTED for things that are detrimental to Americans.

[Warlord23]

Success typically does not come without risk and responsibility.

it's easy to be a hater.

The original thinking behind the law is exactly as you put it ... to allow a small business to invest in its early days, take initial losses and continue to sustain itself through to eventual profitability.

However, Trump's M.O. is different: take on a large amount of debt ("other people's money / OPM" as he calls it), file for bankruptcy, screw over the creditors who lent you money and the contractors who supplied you, take the loss on your books and then use it to avoid taxes on future income.

So a law that aims to reward risk-taking and entrepreneurship is instead being used by the likes of Trump to reward debt. No wonder he likes to call himself the "king of debt". And the punchline to this sad joke is his tweet from 4 years ago:

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[CosmicCowboy]

The original thinking behind the law is exactly as you put it ... to allow a small business to invest in its early days, take initial losses and continue to sustain itself through to eventual profitability.

However, Trump's M.O. is different: take on a large amount of debt ("other people's money / OPM" as he calls it), file for bankruptcy, screw over the creditors who lent you money and the contractors who supplied you, take the loss on your books and then use it to avoid taxes on future income.

So a law that aims to reward risk-taking and entrepreneurship is instead being used by the likes of Trump to reward debt. No wonder he likes to call himself the "king of debt". And the punchline to this sad joke is his tweet from 4 years ago:

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That's not how it works. You can't take losses on debts that bankruptcy court relieved you from.

Get real.

[rmt]

That's not how it works. You can't take losses on debts that bankruptcy court relieved you from.

Get real.

He thinks the IRS would let anyone get away with double dipping? They are like hawks - not one little runaround gets by them.

[Warlord23]

but most of you are gonna vote for this corrupt person who TOOK millions from countries which are anti-women, anti-gay, etc and WHO VOTED for things that are detrimental to Americans.

It is the Clinton Foundation which received money from Saudi Arabia, not Clinton herself. And 88% of the foundation's money is used on actual programs. Whether the work done on those programs is being awarded to Clinton cronies or not is a different question - one that can be answered by genuine investigative journalism rather than repeating mindlessly from Trump's twitter account and Breitbart.

[Warlord23]

That's not how it works. You can't take losses on debts that bankruptcy court relieved you from.

Get real.

True, normally when debt is forgiven, it becomes equivalent to income from a tax perspective. However if Trump's debt exceeded his assets, he may not have reported the forgiven debt as income. Also, being a real estate developer, the "losses" that he can show on paper include depreciation of assets. So Trump can aggressively write down the value of a failed casino and write off the entire capital investment in the property.

If he releases his tax returns for the last 2 decades, this matter would become clearer. However, you know that's never going to happen.

[FromWayDowntown]

but most of you are gonna vote for this corrupt person who TOOK millions from countries which are anti-women, anti-gay, etc and WHO VOTED for things that are detrimental to Americans.

What programs? Like requiring the rich to actually pay a representative amount of taxes relative to the rest of Americans?

Whatever the sources of funding the Clinton foundation may have tapped, Hillary Clinton's actual policy positions aren't anti-woman, anti-gay, or anti-little guy. I'm not worried about where her foundation gets its funding (though I would say that if some of the treasure of despicable regimes is used to make life better for people in the world, that's not exactly a bad thing by itself); I'm concerned with the policy positions of the two major candidates.

One has an agenda that is pro himself and riles up the fears of a diminishing majority that has lost part of its grip on power; the other has an agenda that is largely in keeping with things that a large portion of the country agrees with.

[Warlord23]

He thinks the IRS would let anyone get away with double dipping? They are like hawks - not one little runaround gets by them.

The IRS would love to be an unerring hawk like you say. In practice, they are systematically underfunded, and the result is that they have a hefty "tax gap" - the difference between how much tax should be paid vs how much is actually paid. This gap has been consistently around $450 Billion per year. They don't have the bandwidth to go after everyone, or to overcome the array of lawyers that the big fish are able to deploy.

[boutons_deux]

"systematically underfunded"

As part of the BLATANT VRWC/Repug strategy to fuck up govt, the Repug House, (House controls spending) has cut several $100Ms, for years, from the IRS budget, severely undermining enforcement.

For every $1 spent on enforcement, $7 are recovered.

[boutons_deux]

How Donald Trump Turned the Tax Code Into a Giant Tax Shelter
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/business/how-donald-trump-turned-the-tax-code-into-a-giant-tax-shelter.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

[Reck]

New York State Attorney Serves Trump's foundation a cease and desist order. :lmao

[ElNono]

My emphasis is meant to be on WOMAN since dabom thought I was a man - nothing to do with Trump/God. And he is hardly my typical conservative Republican. Gosh, either I'm not expressing myself well or you guys are not comprehending what I'm saying.

And the irony of it all is that Hillary used this so-called "scheme" in 2015 and took a $700,000 loss and got a tax refund of $3.5 million in 2014 (according to Fox). The NYT uses the tax code to minimize the tax it pays also.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/clinton-campaign-admits-hillary-used-same-tax-avoidance-scheme-trump

We get what you're saying loud and clear. We're just pointing out the amount of mental contortions you have to go through to justify your voting for him, when it's clear your vote goes the guy with the (R) next to him.

I didn't defend Shillary (at least I have no intention to), but two wrongs doesn't make a right.

[ElNono]

"He's not Shillary" is a perfectly valid reason to vote for him. I'm just saying, it's a lot less twisted than "at least we know what he thinks"...

[djohn2oo8]

New York State Attorney Serves Trump's foundation a cease and desist order. :lmao

The Church of Trump.is.now.closed

[CavsSuperFan]

Remember when George McGovern was just destroyed for wanting to end our involvement in Vietnam….Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale were too liberal to be President of the USA…Republicans would vote for those three in a heartbeat today…

[boutons_deux]

Success typically does not come without risk and responsibility.

it's easy to be a hater.

do you think Trump was ever "risking" going "out of pocket" $916M? I bet it was "other people's money", or some other kind of ethereal "money".

and WaPo article says his bankruptcy auditors allowed him $450K/year for living expenses while bankrupt.

He stiffed his investors in has casinos by mis-managing the casinos into bankruptcy (his casino employee tell stories about his horrible management), while paying himself $160M salary.

He's FUCKING GRIFTER, a fraud and scam artist.

[Reck]

http://www.wcpo.com/news/national/trump-foundation-served-ceased-and-desist-order-by-new-york-attorney-general

James Sheehan with the attorney general's office says failure to stop immediately and answer demands for all delinquent financial reports within 15 days "shall be deemed a continuing fraud upon the people of the state of New York."

:lmao

Delinquent. :lol

[boutons_deux]

adulterer Julie Annie sliming everyone as adulterers, to justify Trash's adultery

Giuliani to Chuck Todd: ‘Everybody’ Has History of Infidelity
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/giuliani-to-chuck-todd-everybody-has-history-of-infidelity/

.... replaces baseball as America's Favorite Pastime, as told by America's Mayor.

[boutons_deux]

New York Attorney General’s Office Finds Trump Foundation Has Violated Tax Laws

By Jason Easley (http://www.politicususa.com/author/jasoneasley-2-2-2-2-2) on Mon, Oct 3rd, 2016 at 1:21 pm

The office of the New York state attorney general has found that the Trump Foundation violated the state's tax laws and ordered the Republican nominee's foundation to immediately stop fundraising.

The New York Attorney General’s Office released a statement:

On Friday, September 30, the Office of New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman issued a Notice of Violation to the Donald J. Trump Foundation (“Trump Foundation”) and directed the entity to cease and desist from soliciting contributions in New York.

The notice states that the Trump Foundation “is in violation of section 172 of Article 7-A New York’s Executive Law, which requires charitable organizations that solicit contributions in New York State to register with the Charities Bureau and to provide annual financial reports and annual audited financial statements.” Despite failing to register pursuant to Article 7-A, the Trump Foundation solicited contributions in New York State earlier this year, in violation of New York law.

The notice directs the Trump Foundation to “immediately cease soliciting contributions or engaging in other fundraising activities in New York” and “to provide the [AG’s] Charities Bureau with the information specified in Section 172 within fifteen (15) days” of receiving the notice.

It turns out that the real charitable foundation scandal doesn’t involve Hillary Clinton, but Donald Trump.

For months evidence has been growing that Donald Trump misused charity funds for his own personal benefit.

Paintings and autographed sports memorabilia are just a few of the items that were bought on the charity’s dime for Donald Trump.

Trump used $250,000 from his charity to settle lawsuits (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/20/donald-trump-busted-self-dealing-money-foundation-settle-lawsuits.html) that were brought against him.

A week ago it was revealed that Trump used his charity to dodge personal income taxes on millions of dollars of income. (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/26/hours-debate-report-finds-trump-directed-income-foundation-avoid-paying-taxes.html)

Donald Trump’s fake charity first came to light when the press forced him into following through on his promised donation to veterans groups.

It was Trump who caused this problem for himself by trying to upstage a Republican primary debate by holding a sham fundraiser for veterans. (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/28/unhinged-deranged-trump-rambles-vets-rally-utter-disaster.html)

Donald Trump’s real crimes are coming to light, as no amount Clinton conspiracy theories can cover up the web of corruption that has been weaved by the man Republicans have nominated to be the next President Of The United States.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/03/york-attorney-generals-office-finds-trump-foundation-violated-tax-laws.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[DMX7]

adulterer Julie Annie sliming everyone as adulterers, to justify Trash's adultery

Giuliani to Chuck Todd: ‘Everybody’ Has History of Infidelity
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/giuliani-to-chuck-todd-everybody-has-history-of-infidelity/

.... replaces baseball as America's Favorite Pastime, as told by America's Mayor.




I heard that but I'm not sure that's what he meant. It might have been though.

[DMX7]

New York Attorney General’s Office Finds Trump Foundation Has Violated Tax Laws

By Jason Easley (http://www.politicususa.com/author/jasoneasley-2-2-2-2-2) on Mon, Oct 3rd, 2016 at 1:21 pm

The office of the New York state attorney general has found that the Trump Foundation violated the state's tax laws and ordered the Republican nominee's foundation to immediately stop fundraising.

The New York Attorney General’s Office released a statement:

On Friday, September 30, the Office of New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman issued a Notice of Violation to the Donald J. Trump Foundation (“Trump Foundation”) and directed the entity to cease and desist from soliciting contributions in New York.

The notice states that the Trump Foundation “is in violation of section 172 of Article 7-A New York’s Executive Law, which requires charitable organizations that solicit contributions in New York State to register with the Charities Bureau and to provide annual financial reports and annual audited financial statements.” Despite failing to register pursuant to Article 7-A, the Trump Foundation solicited contributions in New York State earlier this year, in violation of New York law.

The notice directs the Trump Foundation to “immediately cease soliciting contributions or engaging in other fundraising activities in New York” and “to provide the [AG’s] Charities Bureau with the information specified in Section 172 within fifteen (15) days” of receiving the notice.

It turns out that the real charitable foundation scandal doesn’t involve Hillary Clinton, but Donald Trump.

For months evidence has been growing that Donald Trump misused charity funds for his own personal benefit.

Paintings and autographed sports memorabilia are just a few of the items that were bought on the charity’s dime for Donald Trump.

Trump used $250,000 from his charity to settle lawsuits (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/20/donald-trump-busted-self-dealing-money-foundation-settle-lawsuits.html) that were brought against him.

A week ago it was revealed that Trump used his charity to dodge personal income taxes on millions of dollars of income. (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/26/hours-debate-report-finds-trump-directed-income-foundation-avoid-paying-taxes.html)

Donald Trump’s fake charity first came to light when the press forced him into following through on his promised donation to veterans groups.

It was Trump who caused this problem for himself by trying to upstage a Republican primary debate by holding a sham fundraiser for veterans. (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/28/unhinged-deranged-trump-rambles-vets-rally-utter-disaster.html)

Donald Trump’s real crimes are coming to light, as no amount Clinton conspiracy theories can cover up the web of corruption that has been weaved by the man Republicans have nominated to be the next President Of The United States.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/03/york-attorney-generals-office-finds-trump-foundation-violated-tax-laws.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29




Everything he touches seems to be of questionable activity. The writing was kind of on the wall here though... remember his big fundraiser for the troops? That money was supposed to go to his foundation and be distributed later but it really seemed like he was going to try to keep it essentially for himself when you consider what he had been using foundation money for [e.g. painting of himself, kid's school, etc.]. He had to be shamed into giving it all to the troops by the media.

[ducks]

www.clintonkaine.com

[pgardn]

So, you have a problem with bankruptcy laws in general? Isn't that what anyone who declares bankruptcy ends up doing - screw over their creditors? If you all have a problem with the laws, the gripe should be with the politicians who make the laws. We have enough problems with people who break the law than worrying about people who are following the law.

Not necessarily. It's a state thing. In Texas its Fckn crooked. Let's not mix the many ways Donald uses the rigged system he rails against.

I do have a problem with a person who goes out and borrows more money (For a T-Bill) while owing the IRS for years, then the money to the IRS payment comes due and he has made a profit. You tell me who gains from this little wrap around trick?

Tell me? How do YOU make money off a debt? How? You take on debt where you pay no interest and borrow. Let's see any of us try this.

you are defending these practices, that's all the board needs to know. Where have you seen me defend the Clintons running their foundation or Hillary's ignorance on emails. I won't do it. You seem to find the Donald's way the American way. This makes people want to puke who understand what you defend.

[boutons_deux]

I heard that but I'm not sure that's what he meant. It might have been though.

RIF, Trash sucker.

[DMX7]

Not necessarily. It's a state thing. In Texas its Fckn crooked.

I do have a problem with a person who goes out and borrows more money (For a T-Bill) while owing the IRS for years, then the money to the IRS payment comes due and he has made a profit BECAUSE THE IRS DOES NOT CHARGE HIM INTEREST. You tell me who gains from this little wrap around trick?

Tell me? How do you make money off a debt? How? You take on debt where you pay no interest and borrow. Let's see any of us try this.

Large institutions can probably find ways to exploit this but are individuals really doing it? Aren't interest rates on personal/business loans generally much higher than treasury bill rates?

[DMX7]

RIF, Trash sucker.

You're a nasty little man.

[ducks]

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/298757-donald-trump-will-make-our-economy-great-again

[ducks]

RIF, Trash sucker.

sanders sucker

[clambake]

sanders sucker

ducks!!!!!!!!!

did lebron really endorse her?

[ducks]

yes

[baseline bum]

yes

Did Darko endorse Trump?

[pgardn]

Large institutions can probably find ways to exploit this but are individuals really doing it? Aren't interest rates on personal/business loans generally much higher than treasury bill rates?

Not what Donald owes to the IRS. And yes Donald is doing exactly this. Listen to NPR rebroadcast from between 7-8 am about this (SA station) They had a whole explanation of this trick. Donald is not the only individual. And Donald finds ways to basically borrow from himself.

And T-Bills was a safe example which he probably does not use.

[pgardn]

I told this board the deeper we dig the nastier it would get. The Republicans blew him off and this is what they get. Another lost election. Thanks for defaulting Hillary in. The country really needs her. I told you guys the big guns would be drawn later. Although realistically he has shown himself to be such a petulant child it might not even matter.

[CosmicCowboy]

Not necessarily. It's a state thing. In Texas its Fckn crooked. Let's not mix the many ways Donald uses the rigged system he rails against.

I do have a problem with a person who goes out and borrows more money (For a T-Bill) while owing the IRS for years, then the money to the IRS payment comes due and he has made a profit. You tell me who gains from this little wrap around trick?

Tell me? How do YOU make money off a debt? How? You take on debt where you pay no interest and borrow. Let's see any of us try this.

you are defending these practices, that's all the board needs to know. Where have you seen me defend the Clintons running their foundation or Hillary's ignorance on emails. I won't do it. You seem to find the Donald's way the American way. This makes people want to puke who understand what you defend.

You seem extremely confused.

[boutons_deux]

The most shocking part of Donald Trump’s tax records isn’t the $916 million loss everyone’s talking about

But there’s something I consider even more shocking — although it involves a much smaller number.

By my read of the Trump tax return published by the New York Times,

he would have been tax-free because of a $15,818,562 loss reported on Line 11 of the return under “Rental real estate, royalties, partnerships, S corporations, trusts, etc.”

It looks to me that this loss reflects the outrageous, special tax break that real estate developers that people like Trump can get, but that the rest of us can’t.

To give you the brief version, people who qualify as real estate developers or managers can use depreciation deductions to offset non-real-estate income. But people who don’t qualify for this special treatment can’t do that. (For full details, ask a tax expert about Section 469 of the tax code.)

in the collapse of his casino-hotel-airline empire, which fell apart in the early 1990s and resulted in four bankruptcies. (He had two more bankruptcies, in 2004 and 2009, from a publicly traded company in which he was the primary shareholder.)

I’m guessing, but I can’t tell for sure — there’s not enough information — that the loss has to do with the collapse of his empire. I don’t understand how Trump, who had very little of his own cash invested in his projects in the 1990s but did personally guarantee part of their debt, could end up with tax losses of that magnitude. They’re almost certainly paper losses rather than out-of-pocket losses.

If Trump were truly smart — and wanted to lead by example — he would have disclosed his tax returns, showed the loopholes he used, and vowed to close them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/02/the-most-shocking-part-of-donald-trumps-tax-records-isnt-the-916-million-loss-everyones-talking-about/
T (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/02/the-most-shocking-part-of-donald-trumps-tax-records-isnt-the-916-million-loss-everyones-talking-about/)he ignorant losers supporting Trash are often protesting being losers screwed by a rigged economy

Hilarious that they want elect Trash as Rigger-in-Chief, who won't do a FUCKING thing to about their loserhood.

You Trash suppoters defend Trash as not breaking the law, it's all legal? :lol

It's the 1%er Trashes of the USA who WROTE THE FUCKING LAWS and REGS, while defunding the SEC and IRS.

[pgardn]

You seem extremely confused.

Can you listen to the radio competently?

I mean you were the guy who had no clue as to uncertainty and the Brexit which is now beginning to look really bad.

[CosmicCowboy]

Can you listen to the radio competently?

I mean you were the guy who had no clue as to uncertainty and the Brexit which is now beginning to look really bad.

:lmao


I do have a problem with a person who goes out and borrows more money (For a T-Bill) while owing the IRS for years, then the money to the IRS payment comes due and he has made a profit. You tell me who gains from this little wrap around trick?

What the fuck does this even mean?

[pgardn]

:lmao



What the fuck does this even mean?

Simple.

The money one owes the IRS in the future can actually be looked at as a cheap long term loan from the government.

Do you get this? I know you and I don't have Trump money, but it's not that difficult for such a deft business man.

[DMX7]

:lmao



What the fuck does this even mean?

Sorry to say that I agree with you. He's not explaining whatever he is talking about clearly.

[boutons_deux]

Simple.

The money one owes the IRS in the future can actually be looked at as a cheap long term loan from the government.

Do you get this?

Since when does an IRS debtor not pay interest and penalties on taxes owed?

[pgardn]

Simple.

The money one owes the IRS in the future can actually be looked at as a cheap long term loan from the government.

Do you get this?


Sorry to say that I agree with you. He's not explaining whatever he is talking about clearly.

Now?

[Reck]

For my nigga ducks (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13) since he loves himself some 538.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

:lmao

[pgardn]

Since when does an IRS debtor not pay interest and penalties on taxes owed?

When you deal with large sums of money and a payback amount is already determined over a long term.

[boutons_deux]

Texas Newspaper Destroys The Myth That Hillary Clinton Is The Lesser Of Two Evils

A Texas newspaper hasn't just endorsed Hillary Clinton. The Corpus Christi Caller-Times destroyed the media created myth that Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are equals, but that Clinton is the lesser of two evils.

In their endorsement the editorial board of the Caller-Times wrote: (http://www.caller.com/opinion/editorials/our-support-for-hillary-clinton-is-enthusiastic-3da79118-75be-1951-e053-0100007f9177-395461761.html)

She is not, as has been sold, a mere lesser of two evils. Her experience and intellect would make her a standout in any group of candidates. Like President Obama said and didn’t need to be fact-checked, she’s more qualified than him or her husband.….

Being the only serious alternative is both Clinton’s fortune and misfortune. It increases the likelihood of victory, but also of presiding over a nation with large groups of dissidents. While voting against her can be a statement of differing principle, voting for Trump would not rise to that level. It’s not a vote for Republicanism. The Republican Party’s principles and standards are beyond Trump’s reach.….

We perceive in Clinton the capability to bridge the divide — to define rather than exploit our problems and pursue intelligent solutions.

Her “basket of deplorables” comment made the task more difficult but it was a rare lapse by an otherwise level-headed servant leader with a history of self-correcting resilience.

The former senator’s Republican colleagues remember her fondly as a middle-ground-seeking master of the art of deal-making.

If there is to be a return to bipartisanship, she is the one to lead it.

It is rare to see an endorsement in this presidential election that focuses on why one candidate should be president instead of why her opponent is unfit to hold the office.Hillary Clinton is not the lesser of two evils. She has never been. When one examines the facts, there is no contest between Clinton and Trump. Donald Trump has a real rap sheet that should disqualify him from being president.

Hillary Clinton’s “crimes” are conspiracy theories that have been cooked up by the conservative media’s anti-Clinton conspiracy cottage industry that has spent decades as a robust source of profit for conservative authors and media.

The idea that Hillary Clinton is the lesser of two evils is a lazy media narrative that was created by corporate mainstream talking heads only interested in false equivalence to keep ratings and interest up during an election.

It would take too much effort for the media to discuss the fact that Clinton’s approval ratings are a byproduct of decades of Republican attacks on her last name combined with the extreme polarization of the electorate.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/02/texas-newspaper-destroys-myth-hillary-clinton-lesser-evils.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[pgardn]

Since when does an IRS debtor not pay interest and penalties on taxes owed?

And you posted part of it screwball.

[CosmicCowboy]

When you deal with large sums of money and a payback amount is already determined over a long term.

Who are you talking about? This has nothing to do with the published information about Trumps NOL carry forward.

[pgardn]

Who are you talking about? This has nothing to do with the published information about Trumps NOL carry forward.

Ok.

So help me with this.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/02/496303458/how-donald-trump-could-have-not-paid-income-taxes-for-18-years


Congress, which writes the tax laws, affirmatively subsidizes commercial real estate through the mechanism of the tax code."

And I will look for the podcast for you on how this translates into a loan or even a subsidy. There's lots more. You can help decipher it.

[boutons_deux]

And you posted part of it screwball.

Since when does an IRS debtor not pay interest and penalties on taxes owed? G F Y

[CosmicCowboy]

Ok.

So help me with this.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/02/496303458/how-donald-trump-could-have-not-paid-income-taxes-for-18-years


Congress, which writes the tax laws, affirmatively subsidizes commercial real estate through the mechanism of the tax code."

And I will look for the podcast for you on how this translates into a loan or even a subsidy. There's lots more. You can help decipher it.

:lmao

no thanks, goofball.

Trumps has enough shit to complain about without you completely inventing stuff.

Owed the IRS without penalty and bought TBills with the money...:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[rmt]

The IRS would love to be an unerring hawk like you say. In practice, they are systematically underfunded, and the result is that they have a hefty "tax gap" - the difference between how much tax should be paid vs how much is actually paid. This gap has been consistently around $450 Billion per year. They don't have the bandwidth to go after everyone, or to overcome the array of lawyers that the big fish are able to deploy.

I did not mean that they are gonna catch everyone who's cheating - obviously, they don't have the manpower for that. I meant that they have policies/procedures to cover every scenario.

Man, I must not be expressing myself well today - so many things I have to go back and explain.

[pgardn]

And T-Bills was a safe example which he probably does not use.

Sure thing CC.

The emoticons are always revealing with you.

[DMX7]

I think there was a time there when some banks were borrowing from the federal reserve at rates lower than t-bills and so they were investing in those.

[CosmicCowboy]

Sure thing CC.

The emoticons are always revealing with you.

Where does it say he owed taxes that he didn't pay?

Like I said, he has done and said enough stupid stuff on his own you don't need to make stuff up.

[boutons_deux]

I think there was a time there when some banks were borrowing from the federal reserve at rates lower than t-bills and so they were investing in those.

sure, that was a key tool of the Fed to make the bankrupt banks solid again. Fed lent them $Ts at almost no interest, which the banks then lent out, like to students at 6.8%, giving the banks a huge "spread" to pump up their capital reserves.

[pgardn]

Finally found part of it. But there was another piece from another reporter that went more into the aspect of the ways Trump borrows. And basically used this method to make money while claiming loses. Still looking but here is the incomplete view.

http://tpr.org/post/reporter-says-theres-more-donald-trumps-taxes#stream/0

[Reck]

Finally found part of it. But there was another piece from another reporter that went more into the aspect of the ways Trump borrows. And basically used this method to make money while claiming loses. Still looking but here is the incomplete view.

http://tpr.org/post/reporter-says-theres-more-donald-trumps-taxes#stream/0

Yeah I saw part of an interview on CNN that talked about how Trump could have saved himself millions of dollars by using a shitty tax law.

Basically they said that say he wants to build a 100 million dollar building...he can put 1 million of his own money while the bank puts 99 millions. If teh project fails, the bank loses its 99 million dollars. Trump loses the 1 million but saves himself 99 mils.

The taxes though would reflect that he loss the whole sum amount when in fact, he only lost 1 million.

[Warlord23]

Did y'all read about Trump's jewelry box scam to avoid sales tax? Apparently back in the day he'd walk into a jewelry store in NY and buy whatever his main squeeze wanted. Then he'd ask the store to ship an empty jewelry box to a different state so that he could get out of paying sales tax in NY :lmao

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2016/03/08/donald-trump-and-the-empty-jewelry-box-tax-scam/#18c66f7a6aa7

This guy ...

[rmt]

Yeah I saw part of an interview on CNN that talked about how Trump could have saved himself millions of dollars by using a shitty tax law.

Basically they said that say he wants to build a 100 million dollar building...he can put 1 million of his own money while the bank puts 99 millions. If teh project fails, the bank loses its 99 million dollars. Trump loses the 1 million but saves himself 99 mils.

The taxes though would reflect that he loss the whole sum amount when in fact, he only lost 1 million.

And you really think any bank would do that - put up 99% and allow borrower to claim the whole amount if it goes under - I don't think so - they aren't stupid.

[Winehole23]

Winehole was attacking ME.actually, I was addressing rmt -- your post got in between somehow.

sorry, it's not all about you.

[DMX7]

Did y'all read about Trump's jewelry box scam to avoid sales tax? Apparently back in the day he'd walk into a jewelry store in NY and buy whatever his main squeeze wanted. Then he'd ask the store to ship an empty jewelry box to a different state so that he could get out of paying sales tax in NY :lmao

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2016/03/08/donald-trump-and-the-empty-jewelry-box-tax-scam/#18c66f7a6aa7

This guy ...

He didn't even pay his fair share of sales taxes. Jesus... that is damning and more ammo for Hillary if it's true.

[Winehole23]

skirting disclosure requirements to exceed contribution limits and buy influence, like a blue collar billionaire does:


Donald Trump contributed 10 times as much money as was allowed by law to the 2006 gubernatorial campaign of Florida’s then-Attorney General Charlie Crist, according to a Huffington Post review of state campaign finance records.
The donations that exceeded the limit were all made on the same day through companies Trump owns. Trump did not disclose the connection, and regulators did not identify the gifts as coming from Trump. All told, Trump made nine contributions of $500 to Crist’s campaign on Aug. 25, 2005, for a total of $4,500. At the time, the maximum allowable donation in Florida from an individual or corporation was $500 (http://collinsinstitute.fsu.edu/sites/collinsinstitute.fsu.edu/files/Campaign%20finance%20report%20AUG%202015.pdf), a sum that Trump had already given Crist’s campaign as a personal donation in June of that year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-donations-charlie-crist_us_57f2e982e4b0703f75909bb3?section=&

[pgardn]

Yeah I saw part of an interview on CNN that talked about how Trump could have saved himself millions of dollars by using a shitty tax law.

Basically they said that say he wants to build a 100 million dollar building...he can put 1 million of his own money while the bank puts 99 millions. If teh project fails, the bank loses its 99 million dollars. Trump loses the 1 million but saves himself 99 mils.

The taxes though would reflect that he loss the whole sum amount when in fact, he only lost 1 million.

There is more.

I heard a bunch of it this morning but what I have found in the other posts so far is not the whole bag o tricks. Frankly it's getting even more convoluted as I find more articles. There of course is a lot of conjecture in some as he has tried to be secretive in his release of returns. The stuff I heard was based mostly off the release to the NY times but did further analysis using older returns. It was NPR in a large city and I have only found 2 of the 3 examinations.

[pgardn]

Finally found part of it. But there was another piece from another reporter that went more into the aspect of the ways Trump borrows. And basically used this method to make money while claiming loses. Still looking but here is the incomplete view.

http://tpr.org/post/reporter-says-theres-more-donald-trumps-taxes#stream/0


Did y'all read about Trump's jewelry box scam to avoid sales tax? Apparently back in the day he'd walk into a jewelry store in NY and buy whatever his main squeeze wanted. Then he'd ask the store to ship an empty jewelry box to a different state so that he could get out of paying sales tax in NY :lmao

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2016/03/08/donald-trump-and-the-empty-jewelry-box-tax-scam/#18c66f7a6aa7

This guy ...


skirting disclosure requirements to exceed contribution limits and buy influence, like a blue collar billionaire does:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-donations-charlie-crist_us_57f2e982e4b0703f75909bb3?section=&


Its a freaking thunderstorm. This would drown any other candidate. There is so much breaking loose. The Donald will somehow keep the popular vote fairly close through all this.

[Winehole23]

the GOP nominated a man who is more corrupt, more disliked and a worse campaigner than HRC.

what did they think would happen?

[baseline bum]

Its a freaking thunderstorm. This would drown any other candidate. There is so much breaking loose. The Donald will somehow keep the popular vote fairly close through all this.

It's because he's running against Clinton. If Biden was the Democrats' nominee this race would have been over months ago.

[HI-FI]

Mein neger Trey Smith signed off on Trump; I'm all aboard the Trump train. Last time I voted was for Ralph Nader :lol Trump is the new age King Cyrus :toast

xzuxTEq-plE
that's cool man. I don't know what to make of Trump sometimes. Hillary is a nonstarter for me.

Ralph Nader was the first person I voted for and so far the only time I felt good about my vote. He was saying recently that they need a None of the Above option for the presidential votes, so people could vote and still voice their displeasure with the options, but that makes too much sense. :lol

[baseline bum]

that's cool man. I don't know what to make of Trump sometimes. Hillary is a nonstarter for me.

Ralph Nader was the first person I voted for and so far the only time I felt good about my vote. He was saying recently that they need a None of the Above option for the presidential votes, so people could vote and still voice their displeasure with the options, but that makes too much sense. :lol

Can't you just write in Cunty McShitBalls or something?

[Chris]

that's cool man. I don't know what to make of Trump sometimes. Hillary is a nonstarter for me.

Ralph Nader was the first person I voted for and so far the only time I felt good about my vote. He was saying recently that they need a None of the Above option for the presidential votes, so people could vote and still voice their displeasure with the options, but that makes too much sense. :lol

We know exactly what we're going to get with Hillary. More lies and more wars. Nader was a victim of the corrupt Media similar to a Ron Paul or a Bernie Sanders.

[HI-FI]

Can't you just write in Cunty McShitBalls or something?
i suppose but it would be cool to have a None of the Above option just to see how many people would choose it.

We know exactly what we're going to get with Hillary. More lies and more wars. Nader was a victim of the corrupt Media similar to a Ron Paul or a Bernie Sanders.
Cosigned. One of my favorite things about the internet is being able to get away from the media's grip, but we'll see how long that lasts.

[pgardn]

We know exactly what we're going to get with Hillary. More lies and more wars. Nader was a victim of the corrupt Media similar to a Ron Paul or a Bernie Sanders.

So what do you read that you feel is not corrupt?

Any sites in particular that you deem worthy? Or just certain posters on a sports board?

[boutons_deux]

Riches-to-Riches Trump Spins Fake Horatio Alger Tale

Trump inherited a massive fortune and has underperformed both the economy as a whole and the real estate market.

Donald Trump (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/donald-trump/) on Monday told a Colorado audience that all his business success stemmed from “a small loan” from his father

his stewardship of the $200 million real estate empire he took control of four decades ago has failed to keep pace with either the general real estate market or the economy as a whole.

The loan had little to do with the main source of Trump’s wealth, which was the real estate and construction company his father had built over a number of decades.

Trump has actually underperformed both the stock market as well as the real estate market.

Had Trump taken his share of what would become his father’s inheritance and put it into an index fund matching the S&P 500 back in 1974, it would have been worth $3 billion today.

Had he put the $200 million that Fortune magazine determined he was worth in 1982 into that same index fund, he would be worth more than $8 billion today.

And had that $200 million gone into the broad real estate market, it would be worth more than (http://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesleadershipforum/2016/03/03/has-donald-trump-underperformed-in-the-real-estate-business/#506b11da5506) $20 billion today.

Trump claims he is worth more than $10 billion, but independent analyses have put the figure at less than half that. Two banks that appraised his net worth a decade ago came up with values of $788 million and $1.2 billion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/turmp-wealth-inheritence_us_57f2ed79e4b01b16aafea2a0?utm_medium =email&utm_campaign=The%20Morning%20Email%20100416&utm_content=The%20Morning%20Email%20100416+CID_b54 3544c3746cc07468d30f746d5036d&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=SV%20Date%20HuffPost

fils pourri

[Chris]

YDDFd-TudDY

live rally; Trump speaking atm

[Chris]

Text TRUMP to 88022 right meow if you support Trump

[ducks]

It's because he's running against Clinton. If Biden was the Democrats' nominee this race would have been over months ago.

ReLly they did a poll against him and president and the president was not doing any better then clinton

[baseline bum]

ReLly they did a poll against him and president and the president was not doing any better then clinton

who is they who did against poll for Obama

[Reck]

It's because he's running against Clinton. If Biden was the Democrats' nominee this race would have been over months ago.

Negative.

Both candidates are flawed but people still want an outsider badly. For some reason in the GOP side, Trump is fitting that bill.

Biden is a complete insider candidate with a lot less baggage than Clinton.

My guess is that he'd be leading Trump by no more than 5 points on average which is right around where Hillary is at the moment. Landslides dont happen anymore in this political climate we're in. The country is split right down the middle.

I find it hard to believe Biden would be up 10-15 points. That just doesn't play anymore.

[clambake]

who is they who did against poll for Obama:lol

[pgardn]

Text TRUMP to 88022 right meow if you support Trump

right meow...

Is this another Fckn cat food Ad?

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump had chances to make American manufacturing greater—andhe went with China (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/3/1577359/-Donald-Trump-had-chances-to-make-American-manufacturing-greater-He-went-with-China)


A Newsweek investigation has found that in at least two of Trump’s last three construction projects, Trump opted to purchase his steel and aluminum from Chinese manufacturers rather than United States corporations based in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin.

In other instances, he abandoned steel altogether, instead choosing the far-less-expensive option of buying concrete from various companies, including some linked to the Luchese and Genovese crime families.

Trump has never been accused of engaging in any wrongdoing for his business dealings with those companies, but it’s true that the Mafia has long controlled much of the concrete industry in New York.

Throughout his campaign, Trump has maintained that some controversial decisions for his companies amounted to nothing more than taking actions that were good for business, and were therefore reflections of his financial acumen.

But, with the exception of one business that collapsed into multiple bankruptcies, Trump does not operate a public company; he has no fiduciary obligation to shareholders to obtain the highest returns he can.

His decisions to turn away from American producers were not driven by legal obligations to investors, but simply resulted in higher profits for himself and his family.



When companies like Trump’s buy steel from China, they cost jobs in the U.S.—in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, where Trump has been emphasizing his ugly brand of fake populism (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/06/28/1543333/-Trump-promises-to-declare-independence-from-the-elites-like-himself-who-have-ruined-the-economy).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/03/1577359/-Donald-Trump-had-chances-to-make-American-manufacturing-greater-He-went-with-China?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

iow, Trash is just another banal businessman. He'll fuck anyone and fuck anything for profits, and that includes America and Americans.

[Splits]

OCTOBER 4, 2016 4:38 PM
Trump denied use of NC civil rights museum



The International Civil Rights Center and Museum in Greensboro denied Donald Trump’s request to hold an event at the museum two weeks ago – and has faced retaliation from his supporters because of it, according to the museum’s CEO.

John Swaine said the Trump campaign was trying to plan the Republican nominee’s visit to the historic museum Sept. 20, the same day he campaigned in High Point (http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article102928362.html)and Kenansville. Swaine said that campaign staff asked to videotape Trump walking around the museum and requested that the museum shut down for five hours to accommodate his visit.

“We made it known to Mr. Trump’s campaign that we were not going to grant a request of suspending our operations so he could somehow try to legitimize his ideological positions,” Swaine told The News & Observer. “The landmark is very important – it’s not just a political backdrop.”

The museum is in the former F.W. Woolworth building, the site of the 1960 lunch counter sit-in protest (https://www.sitinmovement.org/founders/index.asp)against segregated eating establishments. The facility seeks to commemorate the historic sit-in and to promote equality today.

Swaine said museum staff who spoke to a representative from Trump’s team said he did not request a tour of the museum and seemed instead to want only a photo-op for the nominee.
Swaine said that months are spent training the museum’s tour guides, and that the museum does not allow “un-vetted” presenters to act as guides.

He said that since news of the museum’s decision broke last week, museum staff members have received threats via phone calls and social media.

“The callers were threatening to come over and burn down the building and to shoot up the building,” he said. “They’ve lessened in frequency this week, but they’re still coming in.”

Swaine said callers have used foul language and racial epithets, and he said museum employees are now recording the calls. But he also noted that he is appreciative of support that has come via social media and in calls from across the nation.

Kirk Bell, the communications director for Trump’s North Carolina campaign, wrote in an email that the campaign “is not commenting on this matter.”


http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article105924857.html

[djohn2oo8]

He didnt understand the code? :lol
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-tax-attorney-he-didn-t-understand-code-n660111

[Fabbs]

Text TRUMP to 88022 right meow if you support Trump
I farted into my speakerphone. Lets see what comes out.

[Winehole23]

the stuff about Trump being a smart businessman with skills is overblown. number one factor in his success has been a big inheritance and a rich daddy. he'd never have gotten this far without Fred Trump.

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-federal-income-tax-records-506713

[Cry Havoc]

the stuff about Trump being a smart businessman with skills is overblown. number one factor in his success has been a big inheritance and a rich daddy. he'd never have gotten this far without Fred Trump.

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-federal-income-tax-records-506713

He's such a genius that his economic plans are going to cost the US $6,000,000,000.

[ducks]

Three Largest Police Unions Endorse Trump In Crucial Battleground State



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/05/three-largest-police-unions-endorse-trump-in-crucial-battleground-state/#ixzz4MGY8UoKy

[Reck]

Three Largest Police Unions Endorse Trump In Crucial Battleground State



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/05/three-largest-police-unions-endorse-trump-in-crucial-battleground-state/#ixzz4MGY8UoKy

Colorado is not a swing state.

[Splits]

Three Largest Police Unions Endorse Trump In Crucial Battleground State



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/05/three-largest-police-unions-endorse-trump-in-crucial-battleground-state/#ixzz4MGY8UoKy

LOL people who read dailycaller

[ducks]

Small business says Trump is their pick for president
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/05/small-business-says-trump-is-their-pick-for-president.html

[pgardn]

Small business says Trump is their pick for president
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/05/small-business-says-trump-is-their-pick-for-president.html

You are bailing water out of a boat lying "ON THE BOTTOM OF THE FRGGN OCEAN!"

Semen Ducks, get to your correct station.

[Winehole23]

Steelworkers against Trump:

http://www.newsweek.com/how-donald-trump-ditched-us-steel-workers-china-505717

[boutons_deux]

How Did This Trump Supporter Learn That Clinton Has Dementia?: ‘I’ve Been Watching a Lot of Fox News’

http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Screen-Shot-2016-10-04-at-11.04.19-AM-650x400-2-300x185.jpg

http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-did-this-trump-supporter-learn-that-clinton-has-dementia-ive-been-watching-a-lot-of-fox-news/

[Winehole23]

Four years ago, Romney beat President Obama among white voters by 17 percentage points, according to pre-election polls (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-isnt-winning-enough-white-voters/). That was the largest winning margin among white voters for any losing presidential candidate since at least 1948. Of course, even if Trump did just as well as Romney did, it would help him less, given that the 2016 electorate will probably be more diverse (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/03/2016-electorate-will-be-the-most-diverse-in-u-s-history/) that 2012’s. And to win — even if the electorate remained as white as it was four years ago — Trump would need a margin of 22 percentage points or more among white voters (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-isnt-winning-enough-white-voters/).


But Trump isn’t even doing as well as Romney. Trump is winning white voters by just 13 percentage points, according to an average of the last five live-interviewer national surveys.1 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-doing-worse-than-romney-did-among-white-voters/#fn-1) He doesn’t reach the magic 22 percentage point margin in a single one of these polls.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-doing-worse-than-romney-did-among-white-voters/

[Winehole23]

In fact, Trump would be losing by a larger margin, but third-party candidates are getting support from younger (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/young-millennials-love-obama-but-clinton-is-struggling-to-win-them-over/) and minority voters (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/), so that Clinton is slightly underperforming Obama among these groups. But the magnitude of Clinton’s struggles with young and nonwhite voters isn’t anywhere big enough to cancel out Trump’s relatively poor showing among white voters.

[Winehole23]

Perhaps, it would be better news for Trump if he were at least trending in the right direction with white voters. But he’s moved backward compared with polls back in May and early June (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-isnt-winning-enough-white-voters/). Back then, Trump led Clinton by 17 percentage points, on average, among white voters. In other words, the longer white voters have had a chance to listen to Trump’s message, the more they have been put off by it as a group.

[boutons_deux]

Cracks in the Donald J. Trump Foundation: Report alleges self-dealing to buy conservative favor

Report: Trump may have violated self-dealing laws and his charity will have to open its books

A new RealClearPolitics report (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/10/04/trump_used_foundation_funds_for_2016_run_filings_s uggest.html) has revealed Donald Trump may have violated self-dealing laws when he used Donald J. Trump Foundation funds to buy his way into conservative politics as early as 2011.


In its review of the private foundation’s tax filings, RealClearPolitics found, “From 2011 through 2014, Trump harnessed his eponymous foundation to send at least $286,000 to influential conservative or policy groups.”

A source “with ties to Trump” told RealClearPolitics “he was politically active starting in 2011.”

At the same time, Trump “started to make strategic donations” from his foundation in order to strengthen his rapport with prominent conservatives in key primary states.

Trump hasn’t donated to his foundation since 2008, though — making his “strategic donations” appear more like self-dealing.

“Getting the right to speak or access to networking events, that’s definitely starting to push into self-dealing, where you’re using the private foundation assets to benefit Mr. Trump,”

Under New York law, any charity that solicits more than $25,000 annually is required to register as such — something Trump’s foundation hasn’t yet done. And though the foundation takes in far more than $25,000 annually, it’s not yet clear whether those funds are solicited.

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/04/cracks-in-the-donald-j-trump-foundation-report-alleges-he-self-dealt-funds-to-buy-conservative-favor/

But it's "Crooked Hillary" ?? :lol :lol :lol

And then there's Trash scam of Trash University, etc, etc, etc.

But it's "Crooked Hillary" ?? :lol :lol :lol

[ducks]

UPI/CVoter state polls: Donald Trump gains support in all but 5 states
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/09/26/UPICVoter-state-polls-Donald-Trump-ahead-of-Hillary-Clinton-in-Electoral-College/3941474908310/

[ducks]

salon is the worse piece of shit out there
worse then any right leader site ever

[boutons_deux]

Trump Rocked By New National Poll Showing Hillary Clinton Leading By 10 Points

Hillary Clinton's lead is growing nationally, as new Fairleigh Dickinson University PublicMind poll found Clinton leading Trump 46%-36%.

Hillary Clinton’s lead is growing nationally, as new Fairleigh Dickinson University PublicMind poll found Clinton leading Trump

46%-36%.

According to Fairleigh Dickinson University (http://view2.fdu.edu/publicmind/2016/161005/):

Right now, half of all likely voters (50%) say that if the election were held today, they would vote for Clinton.

Forty percent would vote for Trump.

When third-party candidates are included among the list of candidates, Clinton and Trump both experience a four percent reduction in support – Clinton to 46 percent and Trump to 36 percent.

Trump is the most competitive among whites (47%) and :lol

those whose education did not go beyond high school (46%). :lol

Clinton’s lead among women looks almost insurmountable, with over half of women (56%) favoring her over Trump (32%). :lol

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/05/trump-rocked-national-poll-showing-hillary-clinton-leading-10-points.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[pgardn]

salon is the worse piece of shit out there
worse then any right leader site ever

It might be.

But YOU suggesting this enhances its reputation as legitimate and informative. A proverbial must read.

[boutons_deux]

salon is the worse piece of shit out there
worse then any right leader site ever

"in your own words" :lol

Do you dispute (you could look that word up) that FACTS in the Salon article?

[DMX7]

Salon should never be cited here.

[Fabbs]

Trump going for that all important Japanese Teen vote, apparantly.
http://digg.com/video/japanese-trump-commercial

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

http://i.imgur.com/oBET0MN.jpg rekt

[Reck]

salon is the worse piece of shit out there
worse then any right leader site ever

The irony.

You post pieces of shit LA times polls and UPI polls (Who's that btw) that says Trump has an advantage in the electoral college. That literally goes against every other major pollsters. :lmao

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

The irony.

You post pieces of shit LA times polls and UPI polls (Who's that btw) that says Trump has an advantage in the electoral college. That literally goes against every other major pollsters. :lmao

why would a leftist Jew rag like the LATIMES rig a poll in favor of Trump?

[Reck]

why would a leftist Jew rag like the LATIMES rig a poll in favor of Trump?

It has a stronge "house" effect. Meaning, that not only do they lean republican, but they have an extremely Trump bias.

6.1 In favor of Trump. :wow

http://i0.wp.com/espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/silver-electionupdate-0823-41.png?quality=90&strip=all&w=575&ssl=1

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-leave-the-la-times-poll-alone/

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

If Nate Silver says it must be right

[hitmanyr2k]

The one good thing about Trump's campaign is he's ruined the political careers of assholes :lol

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[ducks]

The Republican presidential nominee employed a more subdued tone Thursday in Sandown, New Hampshire.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-07/trump-says-town-hall-not-practice-for-sunday-s-debate

[Winehole23]

According to a Tuesday column by Lee Sheppard (http://www.taxnotes.com/tax-notes-today/cancellation-debt-income/news-analysis-donalds-double-dip/2016/10/04/18619431) in the tax industry publication Tax Notes, Trump may have benefited greatly in the 1990s from a tax loophole related to forgiven debts — a loophole that would have allowed him to deduct business losses on his personal income tax return, even if those losses were actually borne by banks that loaned Trump money and never got it back.http://www.businessinsider.com/why-did-trump-pay-so-little-tax-2016-10

[Winehole23]

Sheppard sketches out a situation in which an S Corporation owned by Trump is the general partner in his casino businesses, which went into bankruptcy in 1991 and 1992. That S Corporation likely lost a great deal of money. It also likely owed debts related to the casino businesses that it could not pay and that were canceled as part of the bankruptcies — and/or as part of Trump's subsequent out-of-bankruptcy restructurings, which continued into 1995.


Ordinarily, canceled debts would count as taxable income to the S Corporation. But if the S Corporation were insolvent (which you would have expected it to be, if its sole assets were its equity interests in Trump's bankrupt casinos), the debt cancellation would have been excluded from its taxable income.


This exclusion makes sense if you think about the personal case: Let's say you have $300,000 in debts and no assets, and you declare a Chapter 7 liquidation bankruptcy. Your debts would be discharged. It would be silly for the government to call that discharge $300,000 in income and seek around $100,000 in taxes from you, since you have no money.


In the situation described by Sheppard, the S Corporation's massive business losses would have passed through to Trump as personal losses. The offsetting debt forgiveness enjoyed by the S Corporation would not have passed through to Trump as taxable personal income because it was excluded from the S Corporation's taxable income. In total, Trump would have harvested a huge loss that exceeded his initial investment in and prior profits from the S Corporation.


"But wait!" I hope you are saying. "Wouldn't that put Trump afoul of the rule that his tax losses from the S Corporation can't exceed what he invested in it in the first place plus the prior profits?"


Yes, it would — except that, before the 2002 loophole fix, the debt forgiveness enjoyed by the S Corporation would have passed through to Trump for the purposes of calculating the amount of profit the S Corporation had earned on his behalf, even though the same debt forgiveness did not pass through as actual taxable profit to him.


Sheppard refers to this as a "double dip" — the tax loophole would have allowed Trump to claim losses on his individual income tax return that were ultimately borne by creditors, not by him.

[Winehole23]

If that rule sounds stupid, that's because it was stupid. The IRS sought to disallow such tax deductions since they were obviously contrary to the intent of the laws around S Corporations. But the Supreme Court ruled in 2001, in an 8-1 decision (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitlitz_v._Commissioner), that the letter of the law allowed investors to use this tax strategy even if it made no sense. The only way to close the loophole was to change the law.


So in 2002, as a part of a broader, bipartisan package of business tax reforms, Congress did that. The new law ensured that if the cancellation of an S Corporation's debt doesn't count as taxable income, it can't increase the shareholder's basis in the S Corporation, creating additional headroom for the shareholder to deduct other losses he didn't really bear.


This package of reforms passed the Senate (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00044) by a vote of 85-9. One of the senators voting in favor was Hillary Clinton.


I don't know that Trump benefited from this loophole, but it would fit the available evidence very well. And it would help explain how he managed to run up a tax loss so big that it amounted to nearly 2% of all the net operating losses taken on individual income tax returns in the entire country in 1995.


It would also blow up the narrative (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-03/trump-s-1995-return-shows-good-tax-policy-at-work) that Trump's huge loss just reflects the tax code working properly, letting businesspeople offset their real profits with their real losses.
If Trump didn't use the Gitlitz loophole and he really did enjoy a bona fide economic loss of nearly $1 billion, he could prove that by releasing his tax returns in their entirety.

[benefactor]

The one good thing about Trump's campaign is he's ruined the political careers of assholes :lol

784096071999946752
:lol

[Warlord23]

Great find, Winehole23. That is what I was discussing with CosmicCowboy and rmt in my post 7298. That's the loophole that would allow Trump to "double-dip"

[Spurminator]

Worst candidate ever. Nice work, Republicans.
http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Donald-Trump-Makes-History-With-Zero-Major-9887263.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[DMX7]

Worst candidate ever. Nice work, Republicans.
http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Donald-Trump-Makes-History-With-Zero-Major-9887263.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Media elites!!!!

[Warlord23]

Media elites!!!!

Are you planning to keep up your Trumpkin act all the way till November 8, and maybe after that as well?

[Spurminator]

Trump still believes the Central Park 5 were guilty despite DNA evidence and the confession of the real killer.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/trump-continues-hammer-central-park-article-1.2821286

[Splits]

Trump recorded having extremely lewd conversation about women in 2005

By David A. Fahrenthold (http://www.washingtonpost.com/people/david-a-fahrenthold)October 7 at 4:01 PM

Donald Trump bragged in vulgar terms about kissing, groping and trying to have sex with women during a 2005 conversation caught on a hot microphone — saying that “when you’re a star, they let you do it” — according to a video obtained by The Washington Post.

The video captures Trump talking with Billy Bush of “Access Hollywood” on a bus with Access Hollywood written across the side. They were arriving on the set of “Days of Our Lives” to tape a segment about Trump’s upcoming cameo on the soap opera.

The tape obtained by the Post includes audio of Bush and Trump’s conversation inside the bus, as well as audio and video once they emerge from it to begin shooting the segment.

In that audio, Trump discusses a failed attempt to seduce a woman, whose full name is not given in the video.

“I moved on her and I failed. I’ll admit it,” Trump is heard saying. It was unclear when the events he was describing took place. The tape was recorded several months after he married his third wife, Melania.

“Whoa,” another voice said.

“I did try and f--- her. She was married,” Trump says.

Trump continues: “And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, ‘I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.’”

“I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married,” Trump says. “Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.”

At that point in the audio, Trump and Bush appear to notice Arianne Zucker, the actress who is waiting to escort them into the soap opera set.
“Your girl’s hot as s---, in the purple,” says Bush, who’s now a co-host of NBC’s “Today” show.

“Whoa!” Trump says. “Whoa!”

“I’ve gotta use some tic tacs, just in case I start kissing her,” Trump says.“You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful -- I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”

“And when you’re a star they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

“Whatever you want,” says another voice, apparently Bush’s.

“Grab them by the p---y,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumptape-404pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

:lmao grab them by the pussy

[hitmanyr2k]

The death blow....

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-hot-mic-when-you-re-star-you-can-do-n662116

If the Clintons had this in their pocket it was stupid strategy to drop it on a Friday right before the debate. This should have been saved for after the debate in case Trump actually does well lol. If Trump did well then you drop it on Monday or Tuesday and kill his momentum. If Trump bombs in his 2nd straight debate...well you let that second debate marinate in the media for a few days and then drop this murder-death-kill on Thursday :lol

[Splits]

:lol

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuMUVmAVMAAseCd.jpg:large

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[Splits]

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[Splits]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuMiZLsXEAAF33O.jpg:large

[benefactor]

:lmao grab them by the pussy
Then check out sex tape

[Reck]

Trump is finished. :lol

[Winehole23]

Hmm, not quite yet, but the trend isn't encouraging for Trumpistas.

[Medvedenko]

Heard the tape, lolz indeed. Doesn't look presidential, frat boy attitude, nothing new regarding his character.

[Reck]

Hmm, not quite yet, but the trend isn't encouraging for Trumpistas.

It is over.

At least with all women. And the republicans who were on the fence. He's finished.

[Splits]

He's scheduled to be on stage tomorrow with Preibus, Ryan, and walker. If that event is cancelled and the establishment drops him, it's over

[cd021]

This is pretty damn bad, just when you thought he couldn't top;
"Check out the sex tape"

he outdoes himself with;

"Grab her by the pussy"
:lmao

This is like being down 10 with 4 minutes left and tossing an interception in the red zone instead of a touchdown, it's over.

[dbestpro]

Say, what you want but the guy draws crowds. Even here. 248 pages lol.

[Winehole23]

The smoke-filled room had its advantages. Preventing obvious losers like Trump was one of them.

[Warlord23]

Giuliani : "That is the smartest way to seduce women. He's a genius for moving on her like a bitch. Besides, everybody wants to grab them by the pussy."

[Splits]

Giuliani : "That is the smartest way to seduce women. He's a genius for moving on her like a bitch. Besides, everybody wants to grab them by the pussy."

:lol

[spurraider21]

trump took this shit seriously tbh :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJIydD7ULz8

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumptape-404pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

:lmao grab them by the pussy

wtf. please tell me this is fake. dude is bragging about sexually assaulting women:vomit:

[Spurminator]

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[Trill Clinton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5yNB6HC33Y

http://www.thecoli.com/media/wow-dance.4111/full

[Michael Jordan.]

lulz where is Clipper Nation

[DMX7]

Giuliani : "That is the smartest way to seduce women. He's a genius for moving on her like a bitch. Besides, everybody wants to grab them by the pussy."

I'm not sure even Russian hackers can save him at this point.

[AlexJones]

In the words of Mike Goldberg,

IT
IS
ALL
OVER!!!

[Trill Clinton]

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http://www.thecoli.com/media/bischoff-wow.2871/full

[Reck]

lulz where is Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)

That nigga CN is always backing the biggest loser. :lol

Still my nigga but c'mon.

[Pelicans78]

trump took this shit seriously tbh :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJIydD7ULz8

That was hilarious lol

[hater]

:wow what a PIMP :wow

Biggest pimp since 2pac IMO


Amazing stuff

[Reck]

He's scheduled to be on stage tomorrow with Preibus, Ryan, and walker. If that event is cancelled and the establishment drops him, it's over

Event Cancelled.

[boutons_deux]

As the Repug rape caucus says, 50-year-old married men Doin What Comes Naturally

Trash!! :lol

Trash supporters!! :lol

Repugs!!!!!!!! SO FUCKED !!!!!!!!

[boutons_deux]

Many Repugs calling for Trash to exit to dumpster

[Warlord23]

What I'm interested to know is: will rmt, a woman of God, still vote for Trump, and ask her daughter to vote for him?

[benefactor]

This is pretty damn bad, just when you thought he couldn't top;
"Check out the sex tape"

he outdoes himself with;

"Grab her by the pussy"
:lmao

This is like being down 10 with 4 minutes left and tossing an interception in the red zone instead of a touchdown, it's over.
:lol

[baseline bum]

Trump might as well just go grab Hillary by the pussy to begin the debate Sunday.

[Splits]

What I'm interested to know is: will rmt (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4593), a woman of God, still vote for Trump, and ask her daughter to vote for him?

He says he has never asked God for forgiveness. I'm sure rmt will have some ridiculous rationalization about jobs, charter schools, and day trading

[DMX7]

He made the ultimate mistake by apologizing. He hadn't apologized for anything in this campaign. He said in the past he had regrets but didn't specifically apologize for anything. Apologizing is a sign of weakness and shows how terrified he is of how damaging these comments are. He compounded his problem!

[Reck]

He made the ultimate mistake by apologizing. He hadn't apologized for anything in this campaign. He said in the past he had regrets but didn't specifically apologize for anything. Apologizing is a sign of weakness and shows how terrified he is of how damaging these comments are. He compounded his problem!

Out of desperation. He knows this is the last straw.

He won't recover.

[DMC]

Trumps recovery is to bring a cigar on stage and a blue dress. Pretty sure around that same time Bill was grabbing everyone by the pussy, well except Hillary.

[Splits]

Event Cancelled.

more like he was disinvited :lol

[Reck]

Any ducks sighting yet?

He probably pulled the trigger. :lol

[DMX7]

His campaign is done. That, I can tell you.

[TheGreatYacht]

What are the evangelical christians going to do now?

Who am I kidding, as long as he's against the gays and promises the wall they'll back him

[Reck]

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:lol Cosbied.

[TheGreatYacht]

He was already losing in the polls, with college educated whites, independents, women, etc.

It's over.

The Bill Clinton attack he was going to do on Sunday. It's gone. Any chance he had of winning the second debate. It's gone.

I appreciate my nigga hater for taking one for the team and guaranteeing his victory.

[TheGreatYacht]

Also let's not forget he just called the Central Park 5, "guilty" despite there being DNA evidence saying otherwise.

The Law and Order candidate :lol

[ducks]

His campaign is done. That, I can tell you.

bill clinton did worse in the oval office
he just said words that he heard bill say when he played golf with him

[DMX7]

You people are just piling on now!!! So mean!

[DMX7]

bill clinton did worse in the oval office
he just said words that he heard bill say when he played golf with him

On tape... now his campaign is done.

[Reck]

bill clinton did worse in the oval office
he just said words that he heard bill say when he played golf with him

Then release the tapes.

This shows how Trump is a child.

The he did it so did I excuse is beyond childish.

[TheGreatYacht]

According to a guy on CNN (he has really credible sources) there's MORE clips yet to be released from The Apprentice. This is going to be great :wow

[Trill Clinton]

bill clinton did worse in the oval office
he just said words that he heard bill say when he played golf with him

bill clinton isn't running for president and thats hearsay until you can present proof. trump is a predator :hang

[Reck]

According to a guy on CNN (he has really credible sources) there's MORE clips yet to be released from The Apprentice. This is going to be great :wow

Of course there is. There are plenty of unaired material from the Aprentice where he belittle women.

[ducks]

where was the outrage with bill
bill is running for office wife said he would be in charge of economy

[TheGreatYacht]

The guy's name is Brian Stelter. He found out how Washington Post got the "grab them by the pussy" video

[hater]

Cant believe America forgot Bill Clinton got his dick sucked in the oval office and inserted a cigar in the pussy.


Shame on america

[Reck]

where was the outrage with bill
bill is running for office wife said he would be in charge of economy

Hey faggot..Bill got impeached over this kind of scandal.

[rmt]

You all must think that I haven't heard worse from some of you here that something he SAID 11 years ago is gonna turn me - like I don't have 2 brothers and lots of male friends. Yes, my whole family is still going to vote for him. About the only thing that would turn me are the Supreme Court, H1-B visas, Obamacare/single payor and flooding the country with Syrian refugees.

You Bernie fans, please keep in mind, her "private position" "is for a hemispheric market with OPEN TRADE and open borders - no matter what her "public position" says.

Trump needs to apologize profusely ASAP - grovel mightily and beg forgiveness for his words and move on - throw away his cel phone, no interviews and stick to the teleprompter. Do not defend the indefensible or get in the mud. Discuss policies and issues only - Russia, Obamacare, economy. Hammer her on the leaked speech, open trade, TPP, donors, two-faces.

[Reck]

Jason Chaffetz, one of the most hardcore republicans on CNN now underdosing Trump. :wow

[Reck]

You all must think that I haven't heard worse from some of you here that something he SAID 11 years ago is gonna turn me - like I don't have 2 brothers and lots of male friends. Yes, my whole family is still going to vote for him. About the only thing that would turn me are the Supreme Court, H1-B visas, Obamacare/single payor and flooding the country with Syrian refugees.

You Bernie fans, please keep in mind, her "private position" "is for a hemispheric market with OPEN TRADE and open borders - no matter what her "public position" says.

Trump needs to apologize profusely ASAP - grovel mightily and beg forgiveness for his words and move on - throw away his cel phone, no interviews and stick to the teleprompter. Do not defend the indefensible or get in the mud. Discuss policies and issues only - Russia, Obamacare, economy. Hammer her on the leaked speech, open trade, TPP, donors, two-faces.

You have no shame, rmt.

Sorry to say but as a woman, this is a no brainer. You have to dissavow.

[Trill Clinton]

You all must think that I haven't heard worse from some of you here that something he SAID 11 years ago is gonna turn me - like I don't have 2 brothers and lots of male friends. Yes, my whole family is still going to vote for him. About the only thing that would turn me are the Supreme Court, H1-B visas, Obamacare/single payor and flooding the country with Syrian refugees.

You Bernie fans, please keep in mind, her "private position" "is for a hemispheric market with OPEN TRADE and open borders - no matter what her "public position" says.

Trump needs to apologize profusely ASAP - grovel mightily and beg forgiveness for his words and move on - throw away his cel phone, no interviews and stick to the teleprompter. Do not defend the indefensible or get in the mud. Discuss policies and issues only - Russia, Obamacare, economy. Hammer her on the leaked speech, open trade, TPP, donors, two-faces.
sorry i never bragged about sexually assaulting women and 11 years ago he was 60:rolleyes

[rmt]

You have no shame, rmt.

Sorry to say but as a woman, this is a no brainer. You have to dissavow.

You must think I have a thin skin. Remember MY priorities - just the Supreme Court alone is enough - we're talking our rights and freedoms for a generation. You guys are going nuts about something he (and probably lots of you on this board) SAID 11 years ago. I'm more concerned about what Hillary has DONE (and will do).

[Reck]

You must think I have a thin skin. Remember MY priorities - just the Supreme Court alone is enough - we're talking our rights and freedoms for a generation. You guys are going nuts about something he (and probably lots of you on this board) SAID 11 years ago. I'm more concerned about what Hillary has DONE (and will do).

Do you really think that after this he has a blue moon's chance at winning the elections? The goose is cooked.

[benefactor]

We're a bunch of assholes on an internet forum. He's running for President, for fucks sake.

[rmt]

sorry i never bragged about sexually assaulting women and 11 years ago he was 60:rolleyes

"they let you do it" - where is the sexual assault?

[benefactor]

You must think I have a thin skin. Remember MY priorities - just the Supreme Court alone is enough - we're talking our rights and freedoms for a generation. You guys are going nuts about something he (and probably lots of you on this board) SAID 11 years ago. I'm more concerned about what Hillary has DONE (and will do).
Well we all found out today what Trump would do if he met you.

[Reck]

Well we all found out today what Trump would do if he met you.

That's assuming rmt is a hot piece of ass.

If she's not, then Trump will just shame her into crying into a corner.

[rmt]

Well we all found out today what Trump would do if he met you.

What? I don't think a middle-aged Asian woman is quite who he's talking about.

[rmt]

That's assuming rmt is a hot piece of ass.

If she's not, then Trump will just shame her into crying into a corner.

I only need to be hot for my husband - the only opinion who counts :-) I doubt that Trump could get me to cry.

[Trill Clinton]

What? I don't think a middle-aged Asian woman is quite who he's talking about.


can you post a pic?

[Reck]

Trump can save his apology.

Access Hollywood said they have more tapes just like this that they can release.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Event Cancelled.

No they are still having it trying to keep hope alive for GOP congress but Trump is not welcome any more.:rollin

[Splits]

We're a bunch of assholes on an internet forum. He's running for President, for fucks sake.

This

rmt is pathetic, everything that is wrong with this country

[baseline bum]

No they are still having it trying to keep hope alive for GOP congress but Trump is not welcome any more.:rollin

They kicked him out of that shit? :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

"they let you do it" - where is the sexual assault?

:rollin You notice you he said he just went for it? :rollin

You really think all women go for that? If he grabs your cooch you just going to giggle and say "that you, sir," or something?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They kicked him out of that shit? :lol

Ryan said he won't share the stage with him. :rollin

[FuzzyLumpkins]

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan asked Donald Trump not to attend a campaign event with him Saturday as scores of other Republicans attempt to distance themselves from the party’s nominee following the disclosure on Friday of a 2005 video in which Trump made lewd comments about women.

The two men were expected to appear in Ryan’s home state of Wisconsin on the eve of the second presidential debate, but Ryan called off the plan, according to two people familiar with the discussions. Ryan and Trump did not speak personally on Friday, one of them said.

Ryan said in statement late Friday that Trump “is no longer attending” the event — a festival in Ryan’s Wisconsin congressional district.

He decried Trump’s newly revealed comments in stark terms.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/10/07/ryan-mcconnell-silent-on-lewd-trump-video/

[baseline bum]

Ryan said he won't share the stage with him. :rollin

What about that faggot Walker though?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What about that faggot Walker though?

http://www.wpr.org/ryan-walker-and-johnson-condemn-trumps-comments-women

Walker too

[Reck]

GOPers flat out just asking Trump to drop out now. :lol

[ducks]

Jason Chaffetz, one of the most hardcore republicans on CNN now underdosing Trump. :wow
he was part of the never trump

[hitmanyr2k]

After all the shit Trump has said in the last 15 months now these dipshit Republicans are "stunned"? :lol

[baseline bum]

After all the shit Trump has said in the last 15 months now these dipshit Republicans are "stunned"? :lol

No shit. :lol

[Reck]

Trump released a shitty apology video. :lol

No one buys it.

[ducks]

says who ?

[Th'Pusher]

Trump needs to apologize profusely ASAP - grovel mightily and beg forgiveness for his words and move on - throw away his cel phone, no interviews and stick to the teleprompter. Do not defend the indefensible or get in the mud. Discuss policies and issues only - Russia, Obamacare, economy. Hammer her on the leaked speech, open trade, TPP, donors, two-faces.

It's disapointing that you appear to understand that trump is not only flawed, but a completely incapable candidate for president, yet you still find a way to support him.

There's a greater than zero chance that you personally make God cry should he exist.

[hater]

This proves Trump is a pimp. Amazing stuff

[TheGreatYacht]

Trump thinks squinting will hide his obvious teleprompter reading :lol

They spent 11-12 hours on that shit? At least get better lighting and camera. It's over

[hater]

Wonder if anyone remembers Bill ejaculating on a hoe in the oval office with his daugher next door

[pgardn]

This proves Trump is a pimp. Amazing stuff

Yeah.

And then he had to go and apologize...
Amazing stiff. He done.

[pgardn]

Wonder if anyone remembers Bill ejaculating on a hoe in the oval office with his daugher next door

Apparently you do.
Was it amazing pimpin stuff?

[Reck]

Trump on his faux apology..

I apologize....BUT..BILL

Goodnight. :lmao

[DMX7]

Trump on his faux apology..

I apologize....BUT..BILL

Goodnight. :lmao

The city sky line backdrop was beautiful though.

[pgardn]

From the Guardian concerning the 1997 groping and rape accusation:


his daughter Ivanka gave an interview in which she said her father was “not a groper”.




Someone needs to inform her... Daddy can grope as he is famous.

[hater]

Hes a p i m pnimo

[DMX7]

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[hitmanyr2k]

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That was stupid. First rule of getting an apology correct...don't include "but" or any other qualifier in there or divert to someone else's actions. It doesn't work when kids do it and it's sure as hell not going to work for an adult. Just be a man, say what you did was wrong and leave it at that.

[TheGreatYacht]

Just saw this on TV. Holy shit.... :lol

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[rmt]

It's disapointing that you appear to understand that trump is not only flawed, but a completely incapable candidate for president, yet you still find a way to support him.

There's a greater than zero chance that you personally make God cry should he exist.

I'm pretty sure I'm continually disappointing to you - one more thing shouldn't matter at all - whether it's my fear level, my hatred of Obamacare, my wearing my heart on my sleeve, my belief in God, etc.

We are all flawed - all sinners - my relationship with God is fine. What is this about crying tonight - first Trump, now God?

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao ....

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[Reck]

Just saw this on TV. Holy shit.... :lol

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Ana is my bitch. She went in raw on that bitch.

[ducks]

She said that and they sent her pussy home

[DMX7]

Can we really hold Mr. Trump accountable for these comments. They were 11 (whole?) years ago! Mr. Trump was just an immature 60 year old way back then. He's grown up since!

[TheGreatYacht]

Ana is my bitch. She went in raw on that bitch.
Yup my favorite republican on tv tbh

[UZER]

:lmao ....

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Man what a bully!

[TheGreatYacht]

Can we really hold Mr. Trump accountable for these comments. They were 11 (whole?) years ago! Mr. Trump was just an immature 60 year old -- boys will be boys, right? C'monnnnn..... C'monnnnn....
:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

The plant is dead

http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_in_content_image/tumblr_nfifkaR8Sx1rf8t0io6_r1_400_ob8zed.gif

[hitmanyr2k]

The second biggest loser tonight...Ted F'n Cruz :lol

If he had some pride and not let Trump grab his...whatever...he'd be sitting in great position with a smug "how you like me now" expression. Talk about bad timing to give a piece of shit your support.

[DMX7]

People are saying Mr. Trump may have to step down as the head of the ticket. If you wanna know the truth -- I think he really may have to. His campaign can't outlive this video. That, I can tell you.

[DMX7]

The second biggest loser tonight...Ted F'n Cruz :lol

If he had some pride and not let Trump grab his...whatever...he'd be sitting in great position with a smug "how you like me now" expression. Talk about bad timing to give a piece of shit your support.

It's karma for not having a backbone.

[rmt]

You know what, Th'Pusher, I take back my snide comment to you. Someone has entered this thread who's just made you an absolute angel.

Some people assign thoughts to me that were not stated - as in not taking words at face value - as just simply meaning "in the past - a long time ago"

[hitmanyr2k]

It's karma for not having a backbone.

He has to be kicking himself. He could have gone on a "I told you so" tour on all the cable news TV shows saying he knew what Trump was all along while the rest of the Republicans caved. I wonder if John Kasich will take advantage of this since he's actually the only one who had a backbone.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

People are saying Mr. Trump may have to step down as the head of the ticket. If you wanna know the truth -- I think he really may have to. His campaign can't outlive this video. That, I can tell you.

They cannot compel him. He won the primaries fair and square.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs OWN this piece of Trash.

Trash's sideshow is over. But the Repugs will continue every single tactic, strategy, hate, fear, misogyny that Trash blew up and threw in their faces.

[Reck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thYfdBWUSbo

:wow

[Xevious]

Debate #2 just became must-see TV. Especially if Trump starts going after the Clinton's marriage. Shit's going to get dirty, and no real policy with be discussed.

[spurraider21]

:lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqWHz1zl5YU

[Warlord23]

You can expect a story like this to come out every few days till the election...

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/08/politics/donald-trump-woman-incident/index.html

[DMX7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thYfdBWUSbo

:wow

She didn't need to make an ad. It just reminds me how much I dislike her.

[Xevious]

People are saying Mr. Trump may have to step down as the head of the ticket. If you wanna know the truth -- I think he really may have to. His campaign can't outlive this video. That, I can tell you.
He would have to step down voluntarily, which he will not do. And some states will not have time to change the ballots anyway, the GOP would eventually be surrendering to Hillary at that point.

Look... the Republicans took a big shit in the bed, now they have to sleep in it. While this latest video is offensive, it shouldn't be surprising to anybody. This is who you nominated.

[DMX7]

What does it say about Hillary's judgement that she attended Trump's wedding? Enabler!

[FromWayDowntown]

The second biggest loser tonight...Ted F'n Cruz :lol

If he had some pride and not let Trump grab his...whatever...he'd be sitting in great position with a smug "how you like me now" expression. Talk about bad timing to give a piece of shit your support.

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[Warlord23]

And the hits keep on coming. All the women this dirty old scumbag has harassed are probably getting the courage to speak up

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/20/donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations-jill-harth-interview
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-groper-in-chief.html?_r=0

[Winehole23]

he was part of the never trumpnope. Chaffetz rescinded his endorsement.

[CavsSuperFan]

Sarah Palin, Duck Dynasty and foul mouth Donald Trump…The new faces of conservative America…Just how low can we set the bar? :depressed

[Winehole23]

Rob Engstrom, the national political director of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, said Trump should step down “immediately (https://twitter.com/RobEngstrom/status/784576528814379010).”

[Winehole23]

Sarah Palin, Duck Dynasty and foul mouth Donald Trump…The new faces of conservative America…Just how low can we set the bar? :depressedshort of complete annihilation, things can always get worse