Church of Trump

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Donald Trump’s Own Campaign Didn’t Know That He Wasn’t On The Ballot In Minnesota

Donald Trump's presidential campaign is so inept that it didn't even know that the Minnesota Republican Party hadn't filed the proper paperwork to get him on the state's ballot in November.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/25/donald-trumps-campaign-ballot-minnesota.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

"I hire the best people."

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[Reck]

Also within one in nc according to cnn poll

Up 5 in az

:lmao

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How is Hillary still up 8-10 points nationally? Hahahahahahha

[DMX7]

It's called pay-to-play... and it's illegal! It's illegal, folks.

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It's called pay-to-play... and it's illegal! It's illegal, folks.

ALL of Congress does it, and state govts, too. It's totally legal bribery, buying of votes and influence.

[hitmanyr2k]

:lmao

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How is Hillary still up 8-10 points nationally? Hahahahahahha

Any other candidate running and Hillary is down 10-15 points easy. Somehow she lucked out and is running against someone who's even more stupid and deceitful than she is. Trump has had advantage after advantage since the Orlando shooting and somehow he still found a way to screw it up and of course no one believes a word he says because he lies like it's a second language.

[djohn2oo8]

Any other candidate running and Hillary is down 10-15 points easy. Somehow she lucked out and is running against someone who's even more stupid and deceitful than she is. Trump has had advantage after advantage since the Orlando shooting and somehow he still found a way to screw it up and of course no one believes a word he says because he lies like it's a second language.

Remember, Trump is not trying to win.

[djohn2oo8]

Remember, Trump is not trying to win.

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160314/donald-hillary-800.jpg

[Reck]

I dont get what Trump game is.

He says he's softening his immigration stance but also says he will build the wall and Mexico will pay for it. :lol

That fucking retard man.

[Warlord23]

I dont get what Trump game is.

He says he's softening his immigration stance but also says he will build the wall and Mexico will pay for it. :lol

That fucking retard man.

Trump's game is simple:
1. He's out to make a profit on this campaign. As of last month, his campaign had paid more than $7.5M to Trump's businesses. Last month, he spent twice as much on hats and t-shirts as he did on staff and consultants. He claims to have forgiven the loans he made to his campaign, but in his FEC filings they still show up as "candidate loans"
2. He's out to capture an audience that he can milk after the election. That's why he is spending as much time on doing rallies in reliably red/blue states as he is in swing states. Signing the Breitbart guy was a good move. At the end of this campaign, he will probably write a book, have a TV show, deliver speeches - he may even open a TV station along with Breitbart. He can make money and get his ego stroked at the same time.

[Reck]

Hillary fucked him up today.

[CosmicCowboy]

Hillary fucked him up today.

She went full out "I suck but he's worse".

[TheSanityAnnex]

I only caught the last 5 mins, did she talk about Trump the entire time?

and lol at her definition of the alt-right when the face of the movement is a flaming Brit fag

[Reck]

I only caught the last 5 mins, did she talk about Trump the entire time?

and lol at her definition of the alt-right when the face of the movement is a flaming Brit fag

If you have the guts to put up with 30 minutes of Hillary..here you go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBA74WZr_xA

The alt right talk came early. Talked about Alex Jones and the owner of Breitbart.

[TheSanityAnnex]

If you have the guts to put up with 30 minutes of Hillary..here you go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBA74WZr_xA

The alt right talk came early. Talked about Alex Jones and the owner of Breitbart.
Guess I caught the beginning than cause that was the part I heard while eating lunch.

I'd only watch the full 30 mins if she stroked out at the end.

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a 30 minute speech wow trump goes 1 hour 20 most of the time

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Any other candidate running and Hillary is down 10-15 points easy. Somehow she lucked out and is running against someone who's even more stupid and deceitful than she is. Trump has had advantage after advantage since the Orlando shooting and somehow he still found a way to screw it up and of course no one believes a word he says because he lies like it's a second language.10-15 is way too much in such a polarized country, but I bet she'd be down say 6 points to Romney or McCain (though I mean McCain minus Queen Wordsalad).

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I dont get what Trump game is.

He says he's softening his immigration stance but also says he will build the wall and Mexico will pay for it. :lol

That fucking retard man.
wall is going up and mexico is fucking going to pay for it
going to be 40-45 feet to

[CosmicCowboy]

Hillary with the full bore "I may be a crook but he's a racist" defense...:lol

She must be worried.

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wall is going up and mexico is fucking going to pay for itgoing to be 40-45 feet toWhat happens when someone invents a 46 foot ladder?

[Reck]

Hillary with the full bore "I may be a crook but he's a racist" defense...:lol

She must be worried.

Worried that her poll numbers will keep going up? :lol

Says a lot that she's taken like 2 weeks off and she still up 8 to 10 points up in the polls. That's just hillarious

[Trill Clinton]

If you have the guts to put up with 30 minutes of Hillary..here you go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBA74WZr_xA

The alt right talk came early. Talked about Alex Jones and the owner of Breitbart.

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hillary went in on trump on those alt right white supremacists

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hillary went in on trump on those alt right white supremacists

How do you justify casting your vote for someone who referred to blacks as super predators and who's husband targeted blacks and doubled the prison population during his Presidency?

[Reck]

How do you justify casting your vote for someone who referred to blacks as super predators and who's husband targeted blacks and doubled the prison population during his Presidency?

Didn't she apologize for that?

Whether the apology was bullshit or not, an effort was made. Which is more than someone like Trump has ever done.

Also, this was like 20 years ago.

[Warlord23]

768887772425912320

[Warlord23]

Give it another couple of weeks, Trump will probably support a $15 minimum wage and Medicare for all.

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How do you justify casting your vote for someone who referred to blacks as super predators and who's husband targeted blacks and doubled the prison population during his Presidency?

Even with all that, she's still miles better than your conman, asshole clown Trash.

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What happens when someone invents a 46 foot ladder?
the border patrol have time to get there and arrest the bad human

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Trump surrogate defends secrecy on tax returns

Eric Trump said Wednesday it would be “foolish” for his father to release his tax returns and subject them to scrutiny by people who don’t know what they are looking at.

“You would have a bunch of people who know nothing about taxes trying to look through and trying to come up with assumptions on things they know nothing about,” Mr. Trump said on CNBC. “It would be foolish to do. I’m actually the biggest proponent of not doing it.”

If he released his tax returns you would clearly see that.’ Are you guys kidding me? You learn a lot more when you look at a person’s assets. You know how many hotels we have around the world. You know how many golf courses we have around the world.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-surrogate-defends-secrecy-tax-returns?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Trash's PERSONAL tax returns contain his BUSINESSES' assets and taxes?

how many hotels, etc his BUSINESSES own? :lol

[clambake]

the border patrol have time to get there and arrest the bad human

ok thats funny

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Trump Praises Advisor Who Wants To Have Hillary Clinton Shot For Treason
Donald Trump is openly praising an advisor to his campaign who wants to have Hillary Clinton shot for treason.

http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/trump-NH-1-570x404.jpg


Donald Trump just can’t stop endorsing hate.

Calling an advisor who wants your opponent dragged before a firing squad and shot a good man on the same day that your opponent gave a speech outlining your bigotry and hate is the political equivalent stepping on the yard rake and getting smacked in the face.

It speaks volumes about the Trump campaign that an advisor can make comments about Hillary Clinton being shot, and still have his position within the campaign.

Forget being punished; Baldasaro is regarded by the candidate as a good man.

Threaten Hillary Clinton with death and get praised by the Republican nominee.

That is exactly how the twisted Trump campaign works.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/25/trump-praises-advisor-hillary-clinton-shot-treason.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

you Trash supporters are bigots supporting Trash's bigotry, and are assassins supporting Trash's approval of assassin promoters.

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As Trash enflames, promotes, mainstreams racism, xenophobia, hate, bigotry, white nativism/nationalism...

The Disturbing Dawn of the Alt-Right

I wrote about the Alt-right for Salon today (http://www.salon.com/2016/08/25/the-disturbing-dawn-of-the-alt-right-donald-trumps-the-leader-of-a-dark-movement-in-america/). It’s not exactly the same as European ethno-nationalism. It’s scarier:

After months of squabbling about whether it’s acceptable to use the “F” word (fascism) it seems at long last that we have come to some kind of consensus about what to call Donald Trump’s “philosophy”: Alt-Right, also known as white nationalism.

With the hiring of the former chief of Breitbart media, ground zero for the Alt-right movement, as Trump’ campaign chairman, the interest in it has now gone mainstream. Hillary Clinton made a speech about it later today.

Alt-right white nationalism is an apt term for a campaign that has electrified white supremacists (http://www.salon.com/2016/08/24/doubling-down-on-racial-politics-trump-continues-to-play-the-only-card-that-works-with-his-supporters/) so it makes sense that most people would focus on the racial angle.

According to this analysis in the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/23/alt-right-movement-white-identity-breitbart-donald-trump), the rising right wing ethno-nationalist movement in Europe is the progenitor of this American version, which adheres to its basic premise but brings its own special brand of deep-fried racism. Both share a belief that the white race is under siege and that “demands for diversity in the workplace which means less white males in particular forms the foundation for the movement.” So it stands to reason that Trump’s border wall, Muslim ban and bellicose appeals for “law and order” (along with his overt misogyny) is a clarion call to this faction.

But while it’s obvious that the subtle and not-so-subtle racial messaging are among the primary attractions for Trump voters, they are also responding to an economic appeal, much of which stems from the misconception that because Trump himself is a successful businessman he must know what he’s doing. But as Dave Johnson of Campaign for America’s Future pointed out (http://crooksandliars.com/2016/08/trump-trade-position-opposite-what-people),

many of the white working class folk who believe Trump’s promises to “bring back jobs” would be surprised to know what he actually means by that:

Trump says the U.S. is not “competitive” with other countries. He has said repeatedly we need to lower American wages, taxes and regulations to the point where we can be “competitive” with Mexico and China.

In other words, he is saying that business won’t send jobs out of the country if we can make wages low enough here.


One of the most important characteristics of this faction is a strong attraction to authoritarianism. This fascinating report at Vox by Amanda Taub (http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism) tracked studies which show that “more than 65 percent of people who scored highest on the authoritarianism questions were GOP voters and more than 55 percent of surveyed Republicans scored as “high” or “very high” authoritarians.”

Authoritarians, we found in our survey, tend to most fear threats that come from abroad, such as ISIS or Russia or Iran. These are threats, the researchers point out, to which people can put a face; a scary terrorist or an Iranian ayatollah

He doesn’t take nuclear war off the table, one can assume for the reason that it’s a cheaper, quicker way to “take care of” problems than these relatively smaller wars we’ve waged since the world burned in the two epic conflagrations of the 20th century.

His nationalism is all about domination not withdrawal.

And that view is shared by the American alt-right. Here’s one Breitbart writer making the case: (http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2015/08/07/whats-the-secret-to-donald-trumps-appeal-nationalism/)

I’d like an America that makes 7 “Fast & Furious” movies without making concessions to Ayatollah Khamenei.

I’d like an America that humiliates the likes of Vladimir Putin, not vice-versa.

An America that punches back eight times as hard over a tiny offense.

An America that everyone might laugh at but ultimately stop attacking because it can only end poorly for them.



Trump’s nationalism is absolutely about ethno-purity and there’s an element of populism as well, although it’s clearly a misdirection. But it’s largely about wounded national pride which has been a potent motivating force on the American right for a very long time.

There’s a reason Trump is now playing the conservative anthem “Proud To Be An American” at his rallies.


Good old fashioned jingoism is the one thing that brings the old right, the new right and the alt-right together.


http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/08/25/disturbing-dawn-alt-right

[vy65]

As Trash enflames, promotes, mainstreams racism, xenophobia, hate, bigotry, white nativism/nationalism...

The Disturbing Dawn of the Alt-Right

I wrote about the Alt-right for Salon today (http://www.salon.com/2016/08/25/the-disturbing-dawn-of-the-alt-right-donald-trumps-the-leader-of-a-dark-movement-in-america/). It’s not exactly the same as European ethno-nationalism. It’s scarier:

After months of squabbling about whether it’s acceptable to use the “F” word (fascism) it seems at long last that we have come to some kind of consensus about what to call Donald Trump’s “philosophy”: Alt-Right, also known as white nationalism.

With the hiring of the former chief of Breitbart media, ground zero for the Alt-right movement, as Trump’ campaign chairman, the interest in it has now gone mainstream. Hillary Clinton made a speech about it later today.

Alt-right white nationalism is an apt term for a campaign that has electrified white supremacists (http://www.salon.com/2016/08/24/doubling-down-on-racial-politics-trump-continues-to-play-the-only-card-that-works-with-his-supporters/) so it makes sense that most people would focus on the racial angle.

According to this analysis in the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/23/alt-right-movement-white-identity-breitbart-donald-trump), the rising right wing ethno-nationalist movement in Europe is the progenitor of this American version, which adheres to its basic premise but brings its own special brand of deep-fried racism. Both share a belief that the white race is under siege and that “demands for diversity in the workplace which means less white males in particular forms the foundation for the movement.” So it stands to reason that Trump’s border wall, Muslim ban and bellicose appeals for “law and order” (along with his overt misogyny) is a clarion call to this faction.

But while it’s obvious that the subtle and not-so-subtle racial messaging are among the primary attractions for Trump voters, they are also responding to an economic appeal, much of which stems from the misconception that because Trump himself is a successful businessman he must know what he’s doing. But as Dave Johnson of Campaign for America’s Future pointed out (http://crooksandliars.com/2016/08/trump-trade-position-opposite-what-people),

many of the white working class folk who believe Trump’s promises to “bring back jobs” would be surprised to know what he actually means by that:

Trump says the U.S. is not “competitive” with other countries. He has said repeatedly we need to lower American wages, taxes and regulations to the point where we can be “competitive” with Mexico and China.

In other words, he is saying that business won’t send jobs out of the country if we can make wages low enough here.


One of the most important characteristics of this faction is a strong attraction to authoritarianism. This fascinating report at Vox by Amanda Taub (http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism) tracked studies which show that “more than 65 percent of people who scored highest on the authoritarianism questions were GOP voters and more than 55 percent of surveyed Republicans scored as “high” or “very high” authoritarians.”

Authoritarians, we found in our survey, tend to most fear threats that come from abroad, such as ISIS or Russia or Iran. These are threats, the researchers point out, to which people can put a face; a scary terrorist or an Iranian ayatollah

He doesn’t take nuclear war off the table, one can assume for the reason that it’s a cheaper, quicker way to “take care of” problems than these relatively smaller wars we’ve waged since the world burned in the two epic conflagrations of the 20th century.

His nationalism is all about domination not withdrawal.

And that view is shared by the American alt-right. Here’s one Breitbart writer making the case: (http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2015/08/07/whats-the-secret-to-donald-trumps-appeal-nationalism/)

I’d like an America that makes 7 “Fast & Furious” movies without making concessions to Ayatollah Khamenei.

I’d like an America that humiliates the likes of Vladimir Putin, not vice-versa.

An America that punches back eight times as hard over a tiny offense.

An America that everyone might laugh at but ultimately stop attacking because it can only end poorly for them.



Trump’s nationalism is absolutely about ethno-purity and there’s an element of populism as well, although it’s clearly a misdirection. But it’s largely about wounded national pride which has been a potent motivating force on the American right for a very long time.

There’s a reason Trump is now playing the conservative anthem “Proud To Be An American” at his rallies.


Good old fashioned jingoism is the one thing that brings the old right, the new right and the alt-right together.


http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/08/25/disturbing-dawn-alt-right

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Trump’s New Ad Is The Worst General Election ‘Dog Whistle’ In Nearly 30 Years


Trump’s first ad of the general election season demonstrates how far his campaign is willing to go to cause what Haney-López calls “racial panic.”

Notice how immigrants are callously blurred with refugees, and refugees with terrorists. This likely offends anyone who knows and loves immigrants, which many of Trump’s supporters don’t (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/12/a-massive-new-study-debunks-a-widespread-theory-for-donald-trumps-success/). But it is still “acceptable racial discourse” and something other Republicans like Tom Cotton and Scott Brown both did in their 2014 Senate campaigns

That’s why this ad is an example of what Haney-López calls “dog whistling,” using racial appeals in a way that makes them difficult to criticize while offering immunity to supporters who don’t want to be known to anyone or even themselves as flagrant racists.
But what makes this ad extraordinarily offensive isn’t its ridiculous falsehoods (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/20/trumps-false-claim-that-undocumented-immigrants-collect-social-security-benefits/), how it reveals “the absurdity of his whole campaign (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/08/19/trumps-new-ad-inadvertently-reveals-the-core-absurdity-of-his-whole-campaign/?utm_term=.c4301d0b28f5),” or even its obvious smearing of immigrants, whocommit crimes at lower rates than citizens (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/02/surprise-donald-trump-is-wrong-about-immigrants-and-crime/), and refugees, who are vetted for years and have little-to-no say over where they end up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5y70oKbAKY).
The most dangerous message is a subtle beat that you might have missed at the beginning but was obvious to Ari Berman, the author of a critically acclaimed history of voting rights, Give Us the Ballot (http://amzn.to/2btprGH).

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Ari Berman @AriBerman (https://twitter.com/AriBerman)

Trump ad says "system is rigged" & shows black woman waiting to vote. Another dog whistle

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He’s argued that the election will be stolen by voters in “certain areas (http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-08132016-htmlstory.html)” of Pennsylvania, rehashing completely debunked notions (http://www.politifact.com/pennsylvania/statements/2016/aug/12/viral-image/internet-philly-rigged-2012-presidential-election-/) about black voting patterns in the 2012 election. And he’s been vocally supportive of a voter ID law in North Carolina that “targeted African-American voters with almost surgical precision (https://www.thenation.com/article/the-countrys-worst-anti-voting-law-was-just-struck-down-in-north-carolina/).'”

He’s subtly — or not-so-subtly — suggesting black support itself suggests that an election is “rigged.” And he’s doing this as he’s telling black people should they vote for him as a signal to undecided white voters that siding with him doesn’t mean you’re racist.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/trumps-new-ad-is-the-worst-general-election-dog-whistle-in-nearly-30-years/

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Is he your Pitcher or Catcher?

[vy65]

Is he your Pitcher or Catcher?

Buttons outin' himself as a Trash supportin', gun-felatin' xenophobic, homophobic, women hatin' right wing tard?

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Buttons outin' himself as a Trash supportin', gun-felatin' xenophobic, homophobic, women hatin' right wing tard?

VY is just your typical rightwingnut fuckoff whimpering from so butthurt by The Great Boutons.

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Donny Trash and his white nationalists are a tiny fringe of hateful dickheads.

Politics aside, Americans still feel positive about immigrants

But even as debates over immigration intermingle with anxieties about security and terrorism, public opinion toward immigrants themselves remains broadly favorable.

That may underscore two seemingly contradictory realities in US politics: Americans’ growing acceptance of the foreign-born and an increasingly vocal opposition to unauthorized immigration.

A new national survey of Americans from the Pew Center conducted from Aug. 9 to Aug. 16 and published on Thursday, found that

more than three-fourths of respondents (http://www.people-press.org/2016/08/25/on-immigration-policy-partisan-differences-but-also-some-common-ground/) agreed that "undocumented immigrants are as hard-working and honest as U.S. citizens", while 67 percent said they were "no more likely than citizens to commit serious crimes."

Seventy-one percent of Americans responded that undocumented immigrants in the US mostly fill jobs that citizens do not want.

Those findings reflect warming attitudes toward immigrants as a whole over the decades.

In April, the Pew Center found that 59 percent of Americans (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/15/americans-views-of-immigrants-marked-by-widening-partisan-generational-divides/)agreed that immigrants strengthened the country, compared to 33 percent who said they were a burden.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/0825/Politics-aside-Americans-still-feel-positive-about-immigrants

[Reck]

Trump doesn't even know what a bigot is.

Calls Hillary a bigot...then gets pushed to give a definition..then calls her lazy. :lol super moron.

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Hillary bitchslapping Trash


A man with a long history of racial discrimination, who traffics in dark conspiracy theories drawn from the pages of supermarket tabloids and the far reaches of the internet, should never run our government or command our military.


If he doesn’t respect all Americans, how can he serve all Americans?

You would expect the leaders and elected officials of the party to rally to his side, blast Clinton’s speech as a smear and demand an apology.

Instead, there has been silence.

Paul Ryan, the Republican Speaker of The House, has two Twitter (https://twitter.com/speakerryan?lang=en) accounts (https://twitter.com/pryan). Collectively the accounts have posted 31 times on Thursday. Five hours later, he’s posted nothing about the speech.

Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, has three (https://twitter.com/McConnellPress) Twitter (https://twitter.com/senatemajldr) accounts (https://twitter.com/team_mitch). Five hours later, he’s posted nothing about the speech.

Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican Party, has a very active Twitter account (https://twitter.com/Reince). Five hours later, he’s posted nothing about the speech.

Trump, on the other hand, watched the speech and was quick to respond.


Trump’s campaign press office haas also been busy dutifully attacking Hillary’s speech, which a spokesman called a “desperation play (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/trump-campaign-statement-on-clintons-desperation-play).”

But the campaign seems to have trouble finding prominent Republicans to defend Trump.

Right now his site features statements criticizing Hillary’s speech from luminaries such as Patricia Bober (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/patricia-bober-on-hillary-clintons-appalling-attack-today), Oz Sultan (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/OZ-SULTAN-ON-HILLARY-CLINTON-APPALLING-ATTACK-TODAY)and Alfred Liz (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/alfred-liz-on-hillary-clintons-appalling-attack-today). :lol

But today, the most striking thing is not what Republicans are saying. It’s how many of them are staying silent.

https://thinkprogress.org/the-most-important-reactions-to-hillary-clintons-speech-on-trump-s-racism-6cd03ef8e6d#.6t4r2t2mj

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Presidential

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Jeb Bush Comes Out Of Hiding To Call Trump ‘Abhorrent’ And ‘Disturbing’

If Bush's statements are any indication, Trump's waffling isn't helping him win back disaffected, moderate Republicans.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/25/jeb-bush-hiding-call-trump-abhorrent-disturbing.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

but Rubio wants Trash to nominate SCOTUS "judges"

[ducks]

Bush is a fucking idiot

[Winehole23]

Who knew that it would be Donald Trump to come on and convert the GOP base to supporting amnesty the same week Ann Coulter’s book comes out,” Limbaugh said.

“Poor Ann, oh my God, she has this book ‘In Trump We Trust,’ and in it she says, ‘The only thing, the only thing that could cause Donald Trump any trouble whatsoever is if he flipflops on abortion or immigration and goes amnesty,' and it looks like he’s getting close to it,” Limbaugh said. “I mean what timing, I have to dry my eyes here."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/rush-limbaugh-donald-trump-immigration-227424#ixzz4IPVPxj5n

[boutons_deux]

Anti-Immigrant Right Reacts To Trump's 'Softening' With Anger & Denial


his new campaign manager said that Trump’s stance on mass deportations is “to be determined (http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/21/politics/kellyanne-conway-donald-trump-deportation-force-tbd/)” and the candidate himself said “there certainly could be a softening (http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/23/politics/donald-trump-immigration-proposals-softening/)” of his immigration position.

The reactions have ranged from denial that Trump will actually change his position—a fair assumption given Trump’s track record of saying whatever he thinks his current audience wants to hear—to dire warnings that he got behind “amnesty” to resigned acceptance that whatever Trump does, at least he’ll take a harder line on immigration than Hillary Clinton.

Katrina Pierson :lol :lol :lol explaining that the candidate “hasn’t changed his position. He has changed the words he is saying.”

Dan Stein, the head of the anti-immigrant Federation for American Immigration Reform, took a similar tack, telling Newsmax (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTDjK686lPk) that while Trump probably wouldn’t lose much support from his base if he weakened his hardline immigration stance

The Center for Immigration Studies’ Mark Krikorian, meanwhile, claimed that Trump never actually meant what he originally said about creating a deportation force, claiming that the “deportation force” he promised was just “symbolic talk” for stricter immigration enforcement.

Anti-immigrant flamethrower Ann Coulter similarly tried to downplay Trump’s attempted repositioning on the issue, telling the Washington Examiner in (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/coulter-maybe-in-our-interest-to-keep-some-illegal-immigrants/article/2600180?custom_click=rss)an interview that took place after Trump’s campaign manager’s comments but before the candidate’s own, that the campaign’s change in rhetoric isn’t “a change in policy.” But she also, stunningly, conceded that it may be “in our interest to let some [undocumented immigrants] stay.”

she said. "We're getting a wall. We're definitely getting a wall. That's the one thing we know about a Trump presidency." :lol :lol :lol

“It's just rhetoric but it's still annoying,” she said. "I think he panicked and he had to say [it] ... I don't think he is softening. I mean the big thing is the wall.”

Coulter, however, who just happened to be launching her new book “In Trump We Trust” (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/coulter-goes-to-war-with-trump-and-it-is-glorious) last night with a party hosted by Breitbart News, quickly changed her tune, taking to Twitter to accuse Trump of promoting “amnesty”:



http://www.rightwingwatch.org/sites/default/files/images/a_story_rww/ann%20tweets.jpg





William Gheen of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC similarly cautioned Trump (http://www.alipac.us/f8/alipac-cautions-trump-against-amnesty-illegal-aliens-336577/)against supporting “amnesty,” saying,

“If Donald Trump significantly diverges from his promise to deport all illegals, he will end his own campaign or his own presidency. His campaign or his presidency will be wounded to the point of self-destruction.”

Krikorian had a similar warning (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/krikorian-trump-will-lose-if-he-retreats-immigration) in The National Review today, saying that if Trump loses to Hillary Clinton now, it will be because of his “softening” immigration views.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anti-immigrant-right-reacts-trumps-softening-anger-denial

[boutons_deux]

Another physician has called into question the credentials of Donald Trump’s doctor and claims he made about the Republican presidential candidate’s health.

Sanjay Gupta, a neurosurgeon and CNN’s medical correspondent, challenged Bornstein’s credentials and findings (https://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/sanjay-gupta-reveals-doctor-behind-trumps-questionable-medical-note-lied-about-his-credentials/) earlier this week, and Dr. Jennifer Gunter expressed her own concerns about Trump’s physician

“Being able to unequivocally state that somebody would be the ‘healthiest individual’ is just not a factual statement, right?”

Gunter has raised questions in the past (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-gunter/im-a-doctor-heres-concerning-trumps-medical-letter_b_11565838.html) about Bornstein and his letter — such as the

inclusion of his email address and the URL of a nonworking website on the letterhead, in addition to

inaccuracies in the way he described his affiliation with Lenox Hill Hospital.

Gunter also raised questions about the validity of the doctor’s letter itself.

“There’s some issues about how his signature was, basically how he described his division or section he was in, which the doctor isn’t,” she said.

I’m pointing that there’s a lot of inaccuracies, and I think that the doctor should explain why he wrote it that way,” Gunter said.

“If that’s his letter and that’s how he writes, what’s the big deal about saying, ‘This is me, and gosh, I made a mistake in saying which section that doesn’t exist at Lenox Hospital that I thought I was in.’

So I think there’s a lot of a inconsistencies, and you have a document that’s this important — it should be accurate.”

if this part’s inaccurate, what else is inaccurate, too?” she said.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/physician-calls-out-trumps-doc-when-i-tell-someone-theyre-positive-for-gonorrhea-theyre-not-happy/

My guess is that fraud, conman Trash "took (very good) care of" fraud, conman Bornstein.

[Reck]

Doesn't matter how much you try to put a leash on Trump. He'll always find a way to fuck it all up.

[boutons_deux]

Latest polls set the stage for a historic presidential election

“I don’t know if you’ve seen what’s happening,” the Republican said, “but over the last three weeks, the polls with African American folks and Spanish-speaking folks, the Hispanics, Latinos, have gone way up. Way up. They’ve gone way up.” :lol

there’s literally no evidence (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/24/donald-trump-is-doing-great-with-black-and-hispanic-voters-now-according-to-polls-that-dont-exist/) of it being true. In fact, actual data points in the opposite direction,

“Is your mind made up, or do you think you might change your mind before the election?” A whopping 90% of people said they’re not going to change their mind.

[G]oing back to 1952, the candidate leading at this stage of the race always won the popular vote.”

How many candidates had a lead this large, at this stage in the race, but ended up losing? In the modern polling era, zero. It just hasn’t happened.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/latest-polls-set-the-stage-historic-presidential-election?cid=sm_fb_maddow

[TheSanityAnnex]

Latest polls set the stage for a historic presidential election

“I don’t know if you’ve seen what’s happening,” the Republican said, “but over the last three weeks, the polls with African American folks and Spanish-speaking folks, the Hispanics, Latinos, have gone way up. Way up. They’ve gone way up.” :lol

there’s literally no evidence (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/24/donald-trump-is-doing-great-with-black-and-hispanic-voters-now-according-to-polls-that-dont-exist/) of it being true. In fact, actual data points in the opposite direction,

“Is your mind made up, or do you think you might change your mind before the election?” A whopping 90% of people said they’re not going to change their mind.

[G]oing back to 1952, the candidate leading at this stage of the race always won the popular vote.”

How many candidates had a lead this large, at this stage in the race, but ended up losing? In the modern polling era, zero. It just hasn’t happened.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/latest-polls-set-the-stage-historic-presidential-election?cid=sm_fb_maddow




How many candidates at this stage had a pending email dump exposing said candidates corruption?

[boutons_deux]

How many candidates at this stage had a pending email dump exposing said candidates corruption?

how many candidates at this point had been unsuccessfully witch hunted, harassed for 25 years?

Benghazi!

you fools. Repugs' fishing expedition will come up empty. They will make a lot of sound and fury, but it will signify nothing.

fishing expeditions, witch hunting, scorched-earth harassments, but Repugs simply don't govern, and fuck up govt at every chance.

[TheSanityAnnex]

how many candidates at this point had been unsuccessfully witch hunted, harassed for 25 years?

Benghazi!

you fools. Repugs' fishing expedition will come up empty. They will make a lot of sound and fury, but it will signify nothing.

fishing expeditions, witch hunting, scorched-earth harassments, but Repugs simply don't govern, and fuck up govt at every chance.

The first dump caused a huge hit on her poll numbers...the next dump with be even worse. If Trump keeps his mouth shut this is going to look a lot closer in a few months.

[TheSanityAnnex]

And then there is this little nugget...



Kelly also asked about WikiLeaks' interest in murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich, and Assange suggested that Rich was a WikiLeaks source but declined to accuse anyone of his murder.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/645239/julian-assange-tells-megyn-kelly-why-wikileaks-isnt-releasing-dirt-donald-trump

[Th'Pusher]

The first dump caused a huge hit on her poll numbers...the next dump with be even worse. If Trump keeps his mouth shut this is going to look a lot closer in a few months.

Really? The first dump came right before the convention after which, she took the lead and hasn't looked back.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Really? The first dump came right before the convention after which, she took the lead and hasn't looked back.
look at the polls when it was dumped...brought her down to neck and neck with Trump.

[boutons_deux]

Trash is destined for the trash dump.

ITS OVA!

[boutons_deux]

Citigroup analysis: Trump victory would cause economic downturn

A couple of months ago, four economists at Moody’s Analytics prepared a report intended to provide clients with useful information (http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/20/u-s-economy-would-be-diminished-under-trumps-economic-plan-new-analysis-says/): the “cumulative economic benefits and costs” of Donald Trump’s agenda.

The results were rather alarming (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/independent-analysis-trumps-economic-plan-invites-disaster): as the Wall Street Journal reported (http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/20/u-s-economy-would-be-diminished-under-trumps-economic-plan-new-analysis-says/), Trump’s proposals, if taken at face value, would likely produce “a prolonged recession and heavy job losses that would fall hardest on low- and middle-income workers.”

As Bloomberg Politics reported (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-25/citigroup-a-trump-victory-in-november-could-cause-a-global-recession) yesterday, it’s not the only financial-sector analysis reaching this conclusion.

The election of Donald Trump as President of the United States could lead to chaos in markets and increased policy uncertainty that tip the world into recession, according to Citigroup Inc.

“A Trump victory in particular could prolong and perhaps exacerbate policy uncertainty and deliver a shock (though perhaps short-lived) to financial markets,” writes a team led by Chief Economist Willem Buiter. “Tightening financial conditions and further rises in uncertainty could trigger a significant slowdown in U.S., but also global growth.”


Making matters slightly worse, the WSJ reported (http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/08/25/economists-whove-advised-presidents-are-no-fans-of-donald-trump/) yesterday that the 2016 Republican nominee “garners no support from any of the White House economists who have advised U.S. presidents for the past half-century.”

The Wall Street Journal this month reached out to all 45 surviving former members of the White House Council of Economic Advisers under the past eight presidents, going back to Richard Nixon, to get their views on this year’s presidential election.

Among 17 Republican appointees who responded to Journal inquiries, none said they supported Mr. Trump.

Six said they did not support Mr. Trump and 11 declined to say either way.

An additional six did not respond to repeated messages. Among the 21 Democrats who responded to the Journal,

14 said they supported Mrs. Clinton, none said they opposed her and seven declined to say either way.

One Democratic appointee didn’t respond to messages.


“I have known personally every Republican president since Richard Nixon,” Harvard University economist Martin Feldstein, who chaired the CEA under Ronald Reagan, told the Journal. “

They all showed a real understanding of economics and international affairs….

Donald Trump does not have that understanding and does not seem to be concerned about it. That alone disqualifies him in my judgment.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/citigroup-analysis-trump-victory-would-cause-economic-downturn?cid=sm_fb_maddow

emails! :lol

Benghazi! :lol

Trash! :lol

Trash supporters! :lol

[Reck]

look at the polls when it was dumped...brought her down to neck and neck with Trump.

Me thinks you're full of doodo. :lol

the DNC leaks did minimal damage and didn't affect the polls in any way that was noticible.

Trump was still enjoying a slight lead that he got from his convention when the DNC convention started. By next Monday Hillary was up by 10-15 points following her convention.

A recent polling states that around 67 percent of voters are just tired of the email. That stuff is old news.

I said it a while back and I'll say it again. Email talk is not going to be the one thing that brings her down. That became history when the FBI didn't indict.

This has just become fodder for the republicans with little effect.

Just look back at what has gone on since the Comey owned her. DNC leaks, An additional 15k more emails came to light, questionable foundation ethics, AP came out with a scathing article.

With all that hanging around she still has a 8 to 10 point lead and her national average is 6 points. These are things that would kill a campaign.

She doesn't lose this election unless they find absolute evidence of corruption. Basically, she would have to be caught sitting in a pile of money.

Trump was a gift from God himself to Hillary.

[DMX7]

Me thinks you're full of doodo. :lol

the DNC leaks did minimal damage and didn't affect the polls in any way that was noticible.

Trump was still enjoying a slight lead that he got from his convention when the DNC convention started. By next Monday Hillary was up by 10-15 points following her convention.

A recent polling states that around 67 percent of voters are just tired of the email. That stuff is old news.

I said it a while back and I'll say it again. Email talk is not going to be the one thing that brings her down. That became history when the FBI didn't indict.

This has just become fodder for the republicans with little effect.

Just look back at what has gone on since the Comey owned her. DNC leaks, An additional 15k more emails came to light, questionable foundation ethics, AP came out with a scathing article.

With all that hanging around she still has a 8 to 10 point lead and her national average is 6 points. These are things that would kill a campaign.

She doesn't lose this election unless they find absolute evidence of corruption. Basically, she would have to be caught sitting in a pile of money.

Trump was a gift from God himself to Hillary.

The republican field of POTUS candidates this year was horrible. I thought John Kasich was the only electable republican candidate, and it would still require a HRC self-destruction for him to have won IMO.

[boutons_deux]

PENCE RECAPTURED AFTER FLEEING TRUMP CAMPAIGN BUS

VIRGINIA — Calling it a “scary moment” and a “close call,” Donald Trump’s campaign officials confirmed that they had

recaptured Mike Pence after the Indiana governor attempted to flee the campaign bus in the early hours of Friday morning.

According to the campaign, Pence had asked to stop at a McDonald’s in rural Virginia so that he could use the bathroom, but aides grew concerned when the governor failed to reappear after twenty minutes.

After determining that Pence had given them the slip, Trump staffers fanned out across the Virginia backcountry, where the governor was believed to have fled.

News that Pence had vanished touched off a panic in Indiana, where residents feared that he might return to resume his political career.

After forty-five minutes of searching, however, campaign officials located a bedraggled and dazed Pence walking along Virginia State Route 287, where the Republican Vice-Presidential nominee was attempting unsuccessfully to hitch a ride.

A confrontation that Trump aides characterized as “tense” ensued, after which a sobbing Pence returned to the bus.
In the aftermath of Pence’s disappearance, Hope Hicks, Trump’s press secretary, attempted to downplay the severity of the incident.

“This is the kind of thing that happens in the course of a long and demanding campaign,” she said.

“Having said that, we’re grateful to have Mike Pence back with us, and we won’t let him get away again.”

Reportedly, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie offered to fill in for Pence in the event that he became unable to fulfill his duties. That offer was declined.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/pence-recaptured-after-fleeing-trump-campaign-bus

[DMX7]

I think Mike Pence can be replaced with just about anyone.

[boutons_deux]

Eric Trump: Nonexistent ‘holiday tree’ prompted father’s campaign

Eric Trump, the Republican candidate’s son and a leading surrogate for the GOP ticket, explained some of the motivations that led his father to run for president.

“He opens up the paper each morning and sees our nation’s leaders giving a hundred billion dollars to Iran, or

he opens the paper and some new school district has just eliminated the ability for its students to say the Pledge of Allegiance, or

some fire department in some town is ordered by the mayor to no longer fly the American flag on the back of a fire truck,”

Trump told James Robison in an interview posted this week.

“Or he sees the tree on the White House lawn has been renamed ‘Holiday tree’ instead of ‘Christmas tree,’” continued Trump.

“I could go on and on for hours.

Those are the very things that made my father run, and those are the very things he cares about.”


It’s entirely possible Eric Trump genuinely believes everything he said, but unfortunately, reality can get in the way of sincere talking points.

For example, there are no school districts in the United States that prevent kids from saying the Pledge of Allegiance. He just made that up.

Similarly, the National Christmas Tree wasn’t renamed. As BuzzFeed’s report (https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/eric-trump-my-dad-ran-because-the-white-house-christmas-tree?utm_term=.ba0wBxvly) explained, there was some weird, right-wing chain email a few years ago that said the word “Christmas” was replaced with “Holiday” in the official name of the tree, but in reality, that never actually happened. Some conservatives made this up, the Trumps chose to believe it.

In other words, according to Eric Trump,

Donald Trump is running for president at least in part because “he cares about” developments that never occurred. :lol

I don’t doubt that Eric Trump “could go on and on for hours,” but that’s because complaining about imaginary problems is incredibly easy.

But there’s more to this than just laughing at a silly mistake. The larger issue to keep in mind is that we’ve seen quite a bit of evidence that suggests Team Trump exists in some strange alternate universe.


In Trump Land, Ted Cruz’s father was part of the JFK assassination.

And President Obama is a terrorist sympathizer who wasn’t born in the United States.

And Hillary Clinton is secretly dealing with unidentified health crises.

And Muslim Americans held public celebrations on 9/11.

And the National Enquirer, Breitbart News, and Alex Jones are perfectly credible sources for accurate news.

And Donald Trump opposed the war in Iraq before the 2003 invasion.

And Vince Foster’s suicide is highly suspicious.

And vaccines are dangerous.

And the Christmas tree on the White House lawn has been renamed.

To borrow a phrase, I could go on and on for hours.

There’s arguably no more important skill for a president and his or her team than an ability to absorb an enormous amount of information, and quickly understand what’s important, what can be discarded, and what should be used as the basis for action. Trump and his team have demonstrated, over and over again, that they’re just not good at this.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/eric-trump-nonexistent-holiday-tree-prompted-fathers-campaign?cid=sm_fb_maddow

iow, Team Trash is EXACTLY like all establishment Repugs, VRWC. rightwing hate media.

They make up shit, spew it out repeatedly, until they and their ignorant followers believe it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Me thinks you're full of doodo. :lol

the DNC leaks did minimal damage and didn't affect the polls in any way that was noticible.

Trump was still enjoying a slight lead that he got from his convention when the DNC convention started. By next Monday Hillary was up by 10-15 points following her convention.

A recent polling states that around 67 percent of voters are just tired of the email. That stuff is old news.

I said it a while back and I'll say it again. Email talk is not going to be the one thing that brings her down. That became history when the FBI didn't indict.

This has just become fodder for the republicans with little effect.

Just look back at what has gone on since the Comey owned her. DNC leaks, An additional 15k more emails came to light, questionable foundation ethics, AP came out with a scathing article.

With all that hanging around she still has a 8 to 10 point lead and her national average is 6 points. These are things that would kill a campaign.

She doesn't lose this election unless they find absolute evidence of corruption. Basically, she would have to be caught sitting in a pile of money.

Trump was a gift from God himself to Hillary.

Assange and Fitton both hinted at exactly that. Fitton actually said the information he'll be releasing will have the Clinton Foundation shutting their doors.

[Winehole23]

this is the disease I was referring to, TSA. by breathlessly hyping each new revelation as an out-of-the-park home run, too many easy political points are left on the table.

there's nothing wrong with a bloop single or a bunt sacrifice, unless you try to tell people it's a home run.

[Winehole23]

building up expectations is often self-vitiating. the urge to stretch each tactical advantage to the utmost is bad strategy -- it fatigues the intended audience.

[Winehole23]

and, to be honest, it makes the speaker look foolish.

[Winehole23]

nothing has done more harm to the relentless campaign against HRC, than the relentless campaign against HRC.

[spurraider21]

Presidential

http://nodeassets.nbcnews.com/cdnassets/projects/trump03/lead-pt3-v2-840px.jpg
if somebody did this for Krazy Klinton they'd be called sexist misogynists

[TheSanityAnnex]

this is the disease I was referring to, TSA. by breathlessly hyping each new revelation as an out-of-the-park home run, too many easy political points are left on the table.

there's nothing wrong with a bloop single or a bunt sacrifice, unless you try to tell people it's a home run.

Holds more weight coming from the two that are actually reading/releasing the emails...at least to me.

[Winehole23]

of course it does. wishful thinking is about all you've got left...time's running out.

[CosmicCowboy]

Personally I think Hillary went nuclear way too soon. We all knew it was coming but not in August. If she spends the next three months just repeating the same shit over and over she is gonna come across as a shrill kunt by election day.

I fully expect her to win but she is going to go into the white House as damaged goods.

[Winehole23]

you said Benghazi was a home run, you said the same about the emails.

by the time she's elected you'll be damaged goods too --all your predictions of doom for Obama and HRC will have come to nothing.

[Winehole23]

death, taxes and unreliable predictions from CC. some things you can just count on.

[Winehole23]

if wrong were a wind direction, you'd be a weather vane

[Winehole23]

anyway, calling HRC damaged goods is gnomic poetry...it's like saying the sky is blue and the grass is green.

lol your predictions

[clambake]

pretty good stuff

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn winehole. You seem to have me confused with someone else. I never said Benghazi was a home run. You have to admit that HRC wouldn't have gone nuclear so early if she hadnt had a couple of sucky weeks.

[CosmicCowboy]

Throwing the "if you don't vote for me you are a racist" is pretty strong stuff.

[rmt]

Throwing the "if you don't vote for me you are a racist" is pretty strong stuff.

Did she really say that? So almost half the electorate is racist? Hope all those undecided independents are paying attention.

[ElNono]

Did she really say that? So almost half the electorate is racist? Hope all those undecided independents are paying attention.

I'm sure they are, but they're also aware what the options on the menu are, tbh

[rmt]

I'm sure they are, but they're also aware what the options on the menu are, tbh

So all those decided on Trump, Johnson, and Stein are racist? And those undecideds better vote for Hillary or they're racist?

[ElNono]

So all those decided on Trump, Johnson, and Stein are racist? And those undecideds better vote for Hillary or they're racist?

There's only two realistic choices (and I personally don't like either, tbh)... and some of Trump's rhetoric can easily be characterized as racist, there shouldn't be any outrage or surprise about it at this stage. That doesn't make Shillary a saint by any means, but one thing doesn't negate the other.

You might vote for Trump for other reasons, but you're certainly voting for a person that was fairly clear about his xenophobia, etc...

[rmt]

There's only two realistic choices (and I personally don't like either, tbh)... and some of Trump's rhetoric can easily be characterized as racist, there shouldn't be any outrage or surprise about it at this stage. That doesn't make Shillary a saint by any means, but one thing doesn't negate the other.

You might vote for Trump for other reasons, but you're certainly voting for a person that was fairly clear about his xenophobia, etc...

You seem to be speaking about the candidates. To me, her statement is talking about the VOTERS - making a sweeping statement about many millions of people - calling them racist if they don't vote for her.

[ElNono]

You seem to be speaking about the candidates. To me, her statement is talking about the VOTERS - making a sweeping statement about many millions of people - calling them racist if they don't vote for her.

The voters can only vote for the candidates. There's no such thing as voters and candidates as independent entities in an election. They're always interwoven (unless you opt not to vote, in which case you're no longer a voter).

You might vote for Trump because you hate Shillary or because you like his orange tan, that's your choice, but you can't disconnect the fact you're also voting for a guy with similar sweeping statements (i.e.: Mexican illegals are rapists, etc) or the 'OBummer is a Kenyan' guy. Just like anybody proactively voting for Hillary can't disconnect from the fact that you're voting for a false person and neocon warhawk...

It sucks, but unfortunately it's what's on the menu. Personally, in good conscience, I can't vote for either of these guys.

[hitmanyr2k]

Personally I think Hillary went nuclear way too soon. We all knew it was coming but not in August. If she spends the next three months just repeating the same shit over and over she is gonna come across as a shrill kunt by election day.

I fully expect her to win but she is going to go into the white House as damaged goods.

The thing is she won't have to say the same shit over and over. Just like at the DNC her campaign is going to be able to unleash some powerful voices on the trail in the coming months. She'll have Obama making the case, Biden giving his unique voice and perspective, Bernie giving his 2 cents as only he can, and I'm sure Michelle Obama will jump in the fray as well. In contrast Trump has nobody. He burned all of his bridges in the primaries and with his inflammatory rhetoric no prominent Republican is sticking his neck out there to speak on his behalf. He has more Republicans speaking out against him than for him with his flopping all over the place on immigration. So all you have is Trump's shrill voice saying the same shit over and over. The "crooked Hillary" shtick is already wearing thin and Trump is using his best material calling Hillary a bigot which reeks of desperation.

[Winehole23]

Damn winehole. You seem to have me confused with someone else. I never said Benghazi was a home run. You have to admit that HRC wouldn't have gone nuclear so early if she hadnt had a couple of sucky weeks.You overstate the case, as usual. It wasn't as bad as it could have been for HRC.

Trump took the bait: he couldn't stay on message and called HRC a bigot. No discipline. Has to respond to every taunt, like a bully on the schoolyard.

[Winehole23]

What should have been a bad week for HRC was overshadowed by another terrible one for Trump.

Melting down over a personal slight, condescending to minorities and waffling on immigration.

[Winehole23]

Your ongoing anti-HRC Jihad has caused you to exaggerate the picture. Again.

[djohn2oo8]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-dwyane-wade-227467

Christ!!

[Trill Clinton]

if trump doesn't think america is great then he needs to leave! stop the whining and leave.

[TheSanityAnnex]

if trump doesn't think america is great then he needs to leave! stop the whining and leave.
irony alert

[Splits]

This nigga :lol

769526017887080449

[ducks]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/clinton-leads-trump-5-points-reuters-ipsos-poll-062657638.html trump took 7 points off her lead in 7 days same poll

[ducks]

if trump doesn't think america is great then he needs to leave! stop the whining and leave.

very great for people living in chicago no guns and murders up alot
president has not even ever visited there in 7.5 years but he only is from their you know

[ducks]

What is pathetic is that maybe know with wades cousin baby shot something in chicago might be done but if it was not related to someone famous nothing would be done

[Reck]

Damn winehole. You seem to have me confused with someone else. I never said Benghazi was a home run. You have to admit that HRC wouldn't have gone nuclear so early if she hadnt had a couple of sucky weeks.

What exactly do you call nuclear? That speech she gave a few days ago?

Most of that speech wasn't even original. She just recited everything Trump has said and done. There wasn't anything new in there.

With someone like Trump, all you have to do is remind people who Trump is and they'll be like oh yeah you're right.

It's hard to refute something that cant be argued. For example everyone thinks Trump is a bigot. How do you combat that? You just nod your head.

[Trill Clinton]

very great for people living in chicago no guns and murders up alot
president has not even ever visited there in 7.5 years but he only is from their you know

crime in america is at an all time low. chicago has been violent since the days of al capone. chicago is an outlier and the only city white supremacists bring up. you would think white supremacists actually cared about the americans in chicago the way they bring the city up any chance they get lol

[Reck]

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/clinton-leads-trump-5-points-reuters-ipsos-poll-062657638.html trump took 7 points off her lead in 7 days same poll

:lol

You're such a moron. She kept her margin of about 45-47 percent while Trump kept his around 35ish. The difference here were the undecideds. They opted not to say for neither.

That's not a Trump win. He didn't take shit.

[TheSanityAnnex]

What exactly do you call nuclear? That speech she gave a few days ago?

Most of that speech wasn't even original. She just recited everything Trump has said and done. There wasn't anything new in there.

With someone like Trump, all you have to do is remind people who Trump is and they'll be like oh yeah you're right.

It's hard to refute something that cant be argued. For example everyone thinks Trump is a bigot. How do you combat that? You just nod your head.
That is easily refutable. I don't think Trump is a bigot. Your "everyone thinks Trump is a bigot" has been refuted.

[Reck]

That is easily refutable. I don't think Trump is a bigot. Your "everyone thinks Trump is a bigot" has been refuted.

Obviously I was speaking in a general term that excludes his own base.

They think Trump is a god. And before you say you're not a Trump guy..lol you damn well know you like him more than Hillary so by default, you are.

The vast majority either think Trump is a racist or a bigot.

[Winehole23]

59% by one recent poll. not a vast majority, but a clear one.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Obviously I was speaking in a general term that excludes his own base.

They think Trump is a god. And before you say you're not a Trump guy..lol you damn well know you like him more than Hillary so by default, you are.

The vast majority either think Trump is a racist or a bigot.
I'm not a Trump guy and I still don't find him to be a racist or bigot. Certainly not on the level of calling black people super predators.

And no, the vast majority don't think Trump is a racist or a bigot, that is easily refutable.

[Reck]

51+ is not a majority?

[Winehole23]

whether or not polls back up the perception that Trump is bigoted, perceptions count.

the perception that Trump is a bigot is a liability regardless.

[Winehole23]

Trump could've dispelled the impression. Not only did he miss his chance to do so, he spoiled it by openly courting bigots and trash talking minorities during the primaries.

Now that the chickens have come home to roost, he points at HRC and calls her a bigot. It makes him look childish.

[Winehole23]

Federal disclosures released this past weekend help make the case that the real estate mogul, at the very least, is not conducting a traditional campaign operation.


They show, among other things, that Trump’s organization spent more money in July on the now-iconic “Make America Great Again” red hats, Trump T-shirts, and mugs than on the staff whose job it is to run the campaign.


The Trump campaign paid more than $1.8 million to two vendors — California-based headwear-maker Cali-Fame and Louisiana’s Ace Specialties — for T-shirts, mugs, stickers, and the red hats (which the campaign spent over $400,000 on alone).
Compare that to his spending on staff. In the month of July, Trump spent roughly (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-campaign-finances_us_57b9cb79e4b03d513688f5f2?) $921,000 on staff and consultants, about half of what he spent on merchandise bearing his own name and slogans.

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/24/donald-trump-is-spending-more-on-hats-and-other-merchandise-than-on-campaign-staff/

[TheSanityAnnex]

51+ is not a majority?
You claimed vast majority. Or is this another just kidding just speaking in general terms I didn't really mean vast majority?

[Winehole23]

Trump's defenders, including New York donor Anthony Scaramucci, say a major part of his appeal is that he's a "non-politician" who does things differently. That extends to his propensity to mix business with politics.



Finance reports filed with the Federal Election Commission detail a campaign unafraid to co-mingle political and business endeavors in an unprecedented way.


Wealthy political candidates in the past, including New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and presidential contender Steve Forbes both walled off their campaigns from the companies bearing their names.


Not so for Trump. Through the end of May, his campaign had plowed about $6 million back into Trump corporate products and services, a review of federal filings shows. That's nearly 10 percent of his expenditures.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9f7412236962464f9f2c0a8d2696ba25/trumps-campaign-cycles-6-million-trump-companies

[Winehole23]

new FEC filings from the Trump campaign indicate it paid Trump Tower Commercial LLC $35,458 for commercial space in March, when Trump was still largely self-funding. But as the months went by, up went the rent. By May, the same space in Trump Tower cost the campaign $72,800. Then it paid $110,684 on June 9, and $169,758 on July 10.

In total, the campaign paid $169,758 in rent during the month of July, HuffPost tells us, nearly five times what it paid in March.


But wait—maybe costs were just growing with his campaign. After all, Trump secured the Republican nomination during this period and may have been gearing up for the general election. Except the same report indicates the Trump campaign was paying 197 employees and consultants in March. In July, the number actually dropped to 172. That's pretty much in line with what we know about Trump's organization, which has long been hovering (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/there-is-no-trump-campaign/486380/) between bare-bones and non-existent.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a47924/donald-trump-raised-rent-campaign-offices/

[Reck]

You claimed vast majority. Or is this another just kidding just speaking in general terms I didn't really mean vast majority?

What's the difference between vast majority and a majority?

My mistake for making it sound like I meant 90% think he's a racist. I meant that more than 50 percent of people here think he is one. A majority threshold has been reached.

[CosmicCowboy]

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a47924/donald-trump-raised-rent-campaign-offices/

I am curious. Could it be the office has grown as the campaign staff grew? A quick search appears to show the Trump Tower commands a $91 per square foot per month rental rate with outside, unaffiliated commercial tenants...

http://streeteasy.com/building/trump-tower

[Reck]

I am curious. Could it be the office has grown as the campaign staff grew? A quick search appears to show the Trump Tower commands a $91 per square foot per month rental rate with outside, unaffiliated commercial tenants...

http://streeteasy.com/building/trump-tower

No, the staff when from 197 to 172.

"The Trump campaign paid Trump Tower Commercial LLC $35,458 in March ― the same amount it had been paying since last summer ― and had 197 paid employees and consultants. In July, it paid 172 employees and consultants.

In addition to the rent for Trump Tower space in Manhattan, Trump has paid his eponymous golf courses and restaurants more than $260,000 since his campaign and the RNC struck a joint fundraising deal in mid-May, after he essentially locked up the GOP nomination. On May 18, the day the fundraising deal was announced, Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach was paid $29,715; Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, Florida, was paid $35,845; and Trump Restaurants LLC was paid $125,080, according to FEC records. Such large payments were much rarer when Trump was self-funding."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-rent_us_57bba424e4b03d51368a82b9

As per usual, Trump is ripping off his own donors.

[Winehole23]

as usual, CC fails to read the post he's responding to. it's a curiously common fault in this forum.

[baseline bum]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-dwyane-wade-227467Christ!!That's horrible. I have a friend whose wife was killed in almost the same way in LA while walking with her 9 year-old son.

[TheSanityAnnex]

What's the difference between vast majority and a majority?I'd tell you the difference is vast but that word seems to give you trouble so....it's a big difference.

[CosmicCowboy]

as usual, CC fails to read the post he's responding to. it's a curiously common fault in this forum.

Pardon me for not phrasing my question to pass Wineholes sneering scrutiny. A more accurate way to have phrased the question is if the square footage increased as he added executives to the campaign. I saw no reference to actual office area used.

At the top rent number divided by $91 dollars divided by the number of employees it works out to about 11 square feet per employee.

[Winehole23]

TSA and CC split hairs to excuse Trump's faults, but malign anyone who does so for Hilary.

Pots jeering at kettles.

[CosmicCowboy]

I simply point out obvious inconsistencies in partisan arguments. I admit to despising Hillary but don't particularly like Trump either. Since about 90% of this forums posters are Hillary apologists I tend to rebut their arguments more than Trump supporters. If you were fair however, you would admit I have rebutted some of ducks and others more outrageous assertions about Hillary.

[cd021]

whether or not polls back up the perception that Trump is bigoted, perceptions count.

the perception that Trump is a bigot is a liability regardless.


It hurts the GOP in particular, there has long been a perception of underlying racism and now they are looking at losing 98% of the black vote , Obama won 93% and 95% for comparison. I saw a poll back in March (before the judge and Telemundo comments) that had his favorably with Hispanics was at less than 20%. Trump could be permanently losing the Latino vote for the GOP going forward, that thing just doesn't flip election to election. This will be the 20th straight election that Blacks have voted Democrat and the 10th straight for Hispanics.

[Splits]

ducks, tbh

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/vagenda-of-manocide.jpg

[Winehole23]

I simply point out obvious inconsistencies in partisan arguments. I admit to despising Hillary but don't particularly like Trump either. Since about 90% of this forums posters are Hillary apologists I tend to rebut their arguments more than Trump supporters. If you were fair however, you would admit I have rebutted some of ducks and others more outrageous assertions about Hillary.If I read all of your posts -- which I don't -- I might say you're justified patting yourself on the back for being even-handed.

Throwing ducks under the bus hardly counts as a principled stand for fairness. And it's simply not true that 90% of the forums posters are Hilary apologists. I bet you couldn't name five and credibly support the charges.

Seems you can't make a point without stretching it. Sometimes you just make stuff up.

[CosmicCowboy]

What percentage would you claim? I certainly see you as a defender of Hillary and there are a lot that are more aggressively "progressive" than you are. As for naming five off the top if my head would be boutons, reck, fuzzy, rg, bonnerific, hitman, pusher, etc.

[Reck]

I laffed at the 90% Hillary supporters in here.

I think I'm the only democrat in here who has defended some of her positions in here. Bouton is all over the place. Fuzzy is an independent whose calling it like he or she sees it as are others.

I've not seeing them go all out for Hillary since I started posting in this section.

What's happening is, being objective in this place is no longer considered being just objective. You either have to be a Hillary or a Trump. That's why I stopped defending myself when I was accused of being a Hillary shill.

Also I think Trump's positions are so out of whack that most common sense people just tend to be like yeah Hillary might or might not be corrupt but at least she's not going full retarded out there.

[Pelicans78]

look at the polls when it was dumped...brought her down to neck and neck with Trump.

No it didn't. Trump got a bump from his convention to make it close. Wasn't the emails loser.

[Winehole23]

again with the people say stuff. is it wise for Trump to accuse the NSA for being in the tank for HRC?


“I hear the NSA maybe has the emails,” Trump said in a phone interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7LC_-7zrrQ) on Fox News’ “On The Record.” “A lot of people say the NSA would have the emails if they really wanted to get them.”
“Obviously they don’t want to get them,” he added. “They’re protecting her, they’re coddling her. And it’s the only way she could even consider running.”

[Reck]

again with the people say stuff. is it wise for Trump to accuse the NSA for being in the tank for HRC?

So much for his new team having him on a leash and on message.

I love these rogue moments from Trump. They never work.

They only make him seem weak.

[Winehole23]

Trump's sinking like a stone.

[ducks]

clinton is sinking trump is raising at the moment things could change though

[ducks]

NC Civil Rights Activist Backs Trump: 'America Is a Business'

[ducks]

The U.S. Department of Clinton
The latest emails show that State and the foundation were one seamless entity.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-u-s-department-of-clinton-1472167746?mod=trending_now_5

[ducks]

Florida Court Order Adds Pressure on Clinton-Related Emails
Judge sets Sept. 13 date for government to produce potential Benghazi materials
http://www.wsj.com/articles/florida-court-order-adds-pressure-on-clinton-related-emails-1472242599

[boutons_deux]

Florida Court Order Adds Pressure on Clinton-Related Emails
Judge sets Sept. 13 date for government to produce potential Benghazi materials
http://www.wsj.com/articles/florida-court-order-adds-pressure-on-clinton-related-emails-1472242599

:Lol Benghazi!!!

[ducks]

Benghazi was not funny what if it was your dad or mom that was their instead

[DMX7]

Benghazi was not funny what if it was your dad or mom that was their instead

Remember Clinton talking about the 3:00AM phone call in 2008??? Well she got the 3:00AM phone call and she was asleep!

[cd021]

769571710924263424

Damn, Trump foaming at the mouth to try and court the black vote by trying to capitalize on someones death. Fitting that minorities are going to be a crucial reason why he gets beaten.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

Anyone catch the Happy Merchant on Fox News? What a time to be alive :rollin

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqqHG0SVUAA7wZh.jpg

[ducks]

Remember Clinton talking about the 3:00AM phone call in 2008??? Well she got the 3:00AM phone call and she was asleep!

they knew stuff hours before 3 am and also they get stuff done in congress at 1 2 am all the time

[ducks]

769571710924263424

Damn, Trump foaming at the mouth to try and court the black vote by trying to capitalize on someones death. Fitting that minorities are going to be a crucial reason why he gets beaten.

he will get more black votes then mccain or romney

[cd021]

he will get more black votes then mccain or romney

Currently down 90% to 1% according to MSNBC. He is unlikely to even match Romney's 4%.

BTW McCain and Romney combined to get 10% of the black vote and at this rate, Trump may not get even 1/4 of that percentage. The Hispanic vote could easily hit 90% as well which would be an new low for Conservatives from the demo in the presidential election.

[Reck]

Currently down 90% to 1% according to MSNBC. He is unlikely to even match Romney's 4%.

BTW McCain and Romney combined to get 10% of the black vote and at this rate, Trump may not get even 1/4 of that percentage. The Hispanic vote could easily hit 90% as well which would be an new low for Conservatives from the demo in the presidential election.

You actually took ducks seriously? :lol

[cd021]

he will get more black votes then mccain or romney

Trump going and giving speeches about black people to crowds full of virtually all white people certainly isn't helping his "outreach". Talking about blacks people is a lot different than talking to black people, he gave a speech about race in Wisconsin :lol in a part of the state that is especially overwhelmingly white. He needs to give a speech in area's populated heavily by black people to prove that he is serious.

He is clearly trying to convince Whites that he isn't racist instead of really courting minority votes.

[cd021]

You actually took ducks seriously? :lol

I couldn't help myself, his take was especially silly.:lol

[benefactor]

Every day this looks more and more like a landslide for Clinton. What an embarrassing election.

[ducks]

Clinton's Lead Over Trump Cut in Half in New Poll

Hillary Clinton’s lead over Donald Trump has been cut in half in one week in a new national poll.

Clinton now leads Trump by 3 points, 43 percent to 40 percent, in the Morning Consult poll released Sunday morning.



The new poll of 2,007 registered voters, conducted Aug. 24–26, has a margin of error of 2 percentage points.

[ducks]

Trump going and giving speeches about black people to crowds full of virtually all white people certainly isn't helping his "outreach". Talking about blacks people is a lot different than talking to black people, he gave a speech about race in Wisconsin :lol in a part of the state that is especially overwhelmingly white. He needs to give a speech in area's populated heavily by black people to prove that he is serious.

He is clearly trying to convince Whites that he isn't racist instead of really courting minority votes. he is going to black churches in the next 2 weeks and a black church in detroit

[Reck]

:lol Morning consult poll. That nobody takes into account. Breitbart :lol

[cd021]

he is going to black churches in the next 2 weeks and a black church in detroit

And going to talk down to them and tell them that the think they need in their communities is more police and to give him a chance even though he has decades of racist comments on his track record.

That is really going to raise that 1% :lol

[DMX7]

they knew stuff hours before 3 am and also they get stuff done in congress at 1 2 am all the time

It's a metaphor, stupid.

[ducks]

Currently down 90% to 1% according to MSNBC. He is unlikely to even match Romney's 4%.

BTW McCain and Romney combined to get 10% of the black vote and at this rate, Trump may not get even 1/4 of that percentage. The Hispanic vote could easily hit 90% as well which would be an new low for Conservatives from the demo in the presidential election.
new poll out today clinton 79 trump 5

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump going and giving speeches about black people to crowds full of virtually all white people certainly isn't helping his "outreach". Talking about blacks people is a lot different than talking to black people, he gave a speech about race in Wisconsin :lol in a part of the state that is especially overwhelmingly white. He needs to give a speech in area's populated heavily by black people to prove that he is serious.

He is clearly trying to convince Whites that he isn't racist instead of really courting minority votes.

Black people don't watch TV or listen to the radio? Who Knew?

[rmt]

So how many here have been polled? So many Florida polls and I haven't been called once. And it's not because I don't have a landline - hubby insists on keeping it in case of hurricanes (and cel towers don't work) - complete waste of $37 a month.

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump going and giving speeches about black people to crowds full of virtually all white people certainly isn't helping his "outreach". Talking about blacks people is a lot different than talking to black people, he gave a speech about race in Wisconsin :lol in a part of the state that is especially overwhelmingly white. He needs to give a speech in area's populated heavily by black people to prove that he is serious.

He is clearly trying to convince Whites that he isn't racist instead of really courting minority votes.

I keep hearing this ridiculous talking point and it not only makes no sense, it is demeaning to black voters. Hillary Clinton hasn't given a single speech in San Antonio yet through the "miracle" of modern media I have heard the full text of many of the speeches she has given and the highlights of many others. Are you insinuating blacks aren't capable of the same?

[ducks]

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/clinton-foundation-official-requests-state-165059307.html


A series of newly released State Department emails obtained by ABC News offers fresh insight on direct contact between the Clinton Foundation and Hillary Clinton's inner circle while she was Secretary of State.

[cd021]

Black people don't watch TV or listen to the radio? Who Knew?

Point being if you are trying to appeal to blacks then why aren't you taking you messages to black churches or places that are predominantly black. He came to VA. and drew a massive crowd that was virtually all white. He isn't seriously trying to when more black support, black people do have TV and radio and they certainly know about him twice being in trouble for housing discrimination back in the 70's and they've read the articles which chronicle his decades of racism.

There is a reason why he is polling at 1% of the black vote. Him getting up to 5% (the average of the last two GOP presidential candidates with the black vote) isn't happening.

[ducks]

he will get more then 5%

[TheSanityAnnex]

Point being if you are trying to appeal to blacks then why aren't you taking you messages to black churches or places that are predominantly black. He came to VA. and drew a massive crowd that was virtually all white. He isn't seriously trying to when more black support, black people do have TV and radio and they certainly know about him twice being in trouble for housing discrimination back in the 70's and they've read the articles which chronicle his decades of racism.


Whatever Trump has done to negatively impact blacks dwarfs in comparison to the devastating effects Clinton policies had on black families, mainly doubling the prison population while Bill was in office. How do black people get past that fact and still vote for Clinton?

[CosmicCowboy]

Point being if you are trying to appeal to blacks then why aren't you taking you messages to black churches or places that are predominantly black. He came to VA. and drew a massive crowd that was virtually all white. He isn't seriously trying to when more black support, black people do have TV and radio and they certainly know about him twice being in trouble for housing discrimination back in the 70's and they've read the articles which chronicle his decades of racism.

There is a reason why he is polling at 1% of the black vote. Him getting up to 5% (the average of the last two GOP presidential candidates with the black vote) isn't happening.

LOL talking points. Boutons is that you?

[Th'Pusher]

So how many here have been polled? So many Florida polls and I haven't been called once. And it's not because I don't have a landline - hubby insists on keeping it in case of hurricanes (and cel towers don't work) - complete waste of $37 a month.

Rmt, do you feel trump is softening his stance on immigration?

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump has a massive Catholic problem

34% trump vs 61% clinton

If you compare the difference between Romney’s margin among Catholics in 2012 and Trump’s margin among Catholics this year, the 25-point difference is tied for the biggest shift of any demographic group in the Post-ABC poll.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/28/donald-trump-has-a-massive-catholic-problem/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump’s Doctor Draws Healthy Heaps of Ridicule on Twitter

Dr. Harold Bornstein comes under fire for everything from his hippie-ish style to his choice of technology


http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/51/25/31/10835548/5/920x920.jpg

http://m.sfgate.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Donald-Trump-s-Doctor-Draws-Healthy-Heaps-of-9187542.php

[rmt]

Rmt, do you feel trump is softening his stance on immigration?

I think the polls have gotten so bad that he's listening to the (female) campaign manager. But I don't think he likes the word "softening" (lol). I'm okay with the shift (I never wanted a wall anyways - don't think it's necessary - just e-verify, get rid of sanctuary cities, enforce the current law and all those here join the back of the line). He's got to do something and try to get more people under the tent. The people with him will vote for him regardless or for the Supreme Court.

[Th'Pusher]

I think the polls have gotten so bad that he's listening to the (female) campaign manager. But I don't think he likes the word "softening" (lol). I'm okay with the shift (I never wanted a wall anyways - don't think it's necessary - just e-verify, get rid of sanctuary cities, enforce the current law and all those here join the back of the line). He's got to do something and try to get more people under the tent. The people with him will vote for him regardless or for the Supreme Court.

Hmm. In that respect he doesn't really seem like a change agent. Just another politician who'll say whatever he thinks the electorate wants to hear. Does that bother you?

[ducks]

It bothers me he has to soften his stance on immigration but he has to get elected
He by far is better then any of the other ones that ran this year

[ElNono]

It bothers me he has to soften his stance on immigration but he has to get elected
He by far is better then any of the other ones that ran this year

lol duped and proud...

outsider! now rhymes with hopey and changey

[ducks]

lol duped and proud...

outsider! now rhymes with hopey and changey

they are have to change some from a primary to general election to get the majority of the vote to win

[pgardn]

It bothers me he has to soften his stance on immigration but he has to get elected
He by far is better then any of the other ones that ran this year

Trump speechwriter ^

[pgardn]

they are have to change some from a primary to general election to get the majority of the vote to win

Ya think?

[ElNono]

they are have to change some from a primary to general election to get the majority of the vote to win

:lol no shit sherlock... that's why all that badmouthing was bound to come back to him...

[ducks]

if trump changes a little from the primary though the media is all over it for days but they let clinton change a little and not report it
of course last week was the first time in almost a month she called in on a tv show (even if was cnn)

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump is bankrupting the Republican Party — and we don’t mean morally

The only thing that seems to be dropping faster than Donald Trump’s odds of being elected president of the United States is the bank balance for the Republican National Committee that is currently at a historic low this close to a presidential election.

According to Open Secrets (http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2016/08/rnc-pulls-worst-fundraising-numbers-in-recent-years/), the Republican Party has seen contributions take a nosedive as contributors — including big money interests — are sitting on their wallets while the Trump campaign moves from gaffe to unforced error to reports of inner turmoil that has resulted in three campaign managers in the past three months.

While in previous presidential years the

GOP went into the last ninety days before the election with $70 to $90 million in the bank, the party showed a balance of $34.5 million in cash on hand at the end of July — compared to $88.7 million four years ago.

Making matters worse, of those funds, only $15 million is available in unrestricted dollars that can be used toward the election which includes not only funding Trump’s faltering campaign but also get-out-the-vote operations, registration drives and data operations that help down-ticket candidates as well.

One of the myriad of problems the party is facing is backing a candidate who has a history of bankruptcies (http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html)

— blithely walking away with cash in his pockets while leaving investors holding the bag (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/what-trump-didnt-say-about-his-four-big-business-bankruptcies/2015/08/07/bc054e64-3d12-11e5-9c2d-ed991d848c48_story.html) —

and who once declared, “I’m the king of debt. I love debt (http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/05/investing/trump-king-of-debt-fire-janet-yellen/).”
Additionally, the Trump campaign has asked the RNC to open field offices for him in all 50 states (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/trump-asks-rnc-to-open-offices-for-him-in-all-50-states.html) — including states where he stands no chance such as California and New York — putting a further strain on the few dollars available.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/donald-trump-is-bankrupting-the-republican-party-and-we-dont-mean-morally/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol What a train wreck!

[rmt]

Hmm. In that respect he doesn't really seem like a change agent. Just another politician who'll say whatever he thinks the electorate wants to hear. Does that bother you?

No, at this point - I just want him elected. I'm sure I'm thinking the same way most of you are - not crazy over Hillary (Trump, in my case) but the alternative is unthinkable. I'm not hung up on "change" for the sake of change - I'm hung up on the direction the country is going in - more Obamacare, more redistribution, "free" college tuition/debt, public option, more taxes, more regulation, more socialism. I want lower corporate taxes, bringing back the trillions parked abroad to create JOBS, no more H1-B visas - that's the bottom line for me - more JOBS for Americans - that's the solution for most of what ails us. And what Hillary is for is not going to bring that - it'll be more of the same - stagnant GDP (revised downward to 1.1 for last quarter).

It's not that I'm particularly stuck on Trump, but I knew that the country has moved so far left that only someone like him (not a true conservative) could possible win (or I would have voted for someone like Huckabee or Carson - people with my values). And Trump did have a chance, if he kept him mouth shut and head down and only talked economy and national security but no, he had to step into it (starting with Khan). Now, he's so far down that it's unlikely that he can recover in time. But hope springs eternal (anything can happen), and I'm not the type to give up so I'll be there till the end.

[ElNono]

No, at this point - I just want him elected. I'm sure I'm thinking the same way most of you are - not crazy over Hillary (Trump, in my case) but the alternative is unthinkable. I'm not hung up on "change" for the sake of change - I'm hung up on the direction the country is going in - more Obamacare, more redistribution, "free" college tuition/debt, public option, more taxes, more regulation, more socialism. I want lower corporate taxes, bringing back the trillions parked abroad to create JOBS, no more H1-B visas - that's the bottom line for me - more JOBS for Americans - that's the solution for most of what ails us. And what Hillary is for is not going to bring that - it'll be more of the same - stagnant GDP (revised downward to 1.1 for last quarter).

It's not that I'm particularly stuck on Trump, but I knew that the country has moved so far left that only someone like him (not a true conservative) could possible win (or I would have voted for someone like Huckabee or Carson - people with my values). And Trump did have a chance, if he kept him mouth shut and head down and only talked economy and national security but no, he had to step into it (starting with Khan). Now, he's so far down that it's unlikely that he can recover in time. But hope springs eternal (anything can happen), and I'm not the type to give up so I'll be there till the end.

Nothing personal, rmt, but this post is full of contradictions, really a lack of understanding of what's going on in the world today... we're living the peak of globalization and the US remains the world's epicenter of capitalism...

You're not getting more jobs for Americans until either of these happen:

1) The US can compete with the shitty quality of the life in the rest of the world (staring with China, India, etc). Nobody really wants this. Nobody wants to destroy our quality of life so that earning 10c/hour looks like a reasonable salary.
2) The US imposes market-distorting (some would call adjusting) controls like tariffs... protectionism isn't new, but it's a lot closer to socialism than it is to free-market. It will include inflation and bickering, but you'll get some of your darned jobs back.

There's a couple more options, but neither are realistically better than those two from the standpoint of the US. And they're both really ugly in different ways.

The world we live in is what the absolute optimization of capitalism looks like. Chasing the almighty buck over everything means you invest where labor is absolutely cheap and borderline criminal and you sell where people can still pay. It overrides national interests and boundaries. What do you want the trillions of dollars back for? Those companies have zero interest in investing them in the US when they already invest and manufacture in much cheaper countries. The only reason you would want those trillions back is so the government could capture some of the taxation and invest them in infrastructure, etc, creating artificial jobs. We've gotten to this point of government being the de-facto job creator, not because of socialism!, but because of globalization. I agree with your H1B comment, but that's just one more symptom of a much larger problem.

I think this is also a big reason why republicans are generally very conflicted with the current times. It appears to me that certain dogmas like free-market, trickle-down, etc have been getting really ugly when applied to their capacity, and it's difficult to perhaps accept that you simply can't control the whole economic game, and you have to act in the country's best interest, even if sometimes it goes against certain dogmas.

As far as this election goes, neither Shillary or Trump are likely to change any of this stuff. We live in a political system that's also the full embodiment of capitalism-to-the-max, and as far as I'm concerned, until Citizen's United is overturned, won't change. Even after that, it remains to be seen how much we can get money out of politics and really put country-first again. In the meantime, we're just going to have to live in this world and survive.

[Warlord23]

No, at this point - I just want him elected. I'm sure I'm thinking the same way most of you are - not crazy over Hillary (Trump, in my case) but the alternative is unthinkable. I'm not hung up on "change" for the sake of change - I'm hung up on the direction the country is going in - more Obamacare, more redistribution, "free" college tuition/debt, public option, more taxes, more regulation, more socialism. I want lower corporate taxes, bringing back the trillions parked abroad to create JOBS, no more H1-B visas - that's the bottom line for me - more JOBS for Americans - that's the solution for most of what ails us. And what Hillary is for is not going to bring that - it'll be more of the same - stagnant GDP (revised downward to 1.1 for last quarter).

It's not that I'm particularly stuck on Trump, but I knew that the country has moved so far left that only someone like him (not a true conservative) could possible win (or I would have voted for someone like Huckabee or Carson - people with my values). And Trump did have a chance, if he kept him mouth shut and head down and only talked economy and national security but no, he had to step into it (starting with Khan). Now, he's so far down that it's unlikely that he can recover in time. But hope springs eternal (anything can happen), and I'm not the type to give up so I'll be there till the end.

:lol
Bless your heart rmt, your posts are always good for a few laughs. Let's hope your children turn out to be more informed and able to engage in critical thinking than you.

[rmt]

:lol
Bless your heart rmt, your posts are always good for a few laughs. Let's hope your children turn out to be more informed and able to engage in critical thinking than you.

Why, thank you for that blessing. I'm glad I can amuse you. What a boring world this would be if we all thought alike!

[boutons_deux]

Why the GOP establishment embraces Trump in Iowa more than any other battleground

There are six factors that explain why so many Iowa Republicans are tying themselves to the polarizing nominee, in sharp contrast to places such as Ohio:

1. It is not as risky in Iowa as other places.

2. Republicans want blue-collar Democrats who are crossing over for Trump to vote for down-ballot Republicans, too.

3. Iowa Republicans said they don’t want the bottom to fall out from underneath Trump because it would cost them dearly down-ballot.

4. GOP leaders believe supporting Trump is necessary to save the caucuses in 2020.

5. Iowa leaders care more about judges than others.

6. Finally, some elected Republicans genuinely like Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/08/29/daily-202-why-the-gop-establishment-embraces-trump-in-iowa-more-than-any-other-battleground/57c36df3cd249a6fcddb9f50/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

Iowa, the state that chose "Dick" "Man-on-Dog" Catholic Santorum over Bishop Gekko.

[boutons_deux]

Trash's pandering to the nativists, jingoists, racists, white supremacists ...

Presidential Campaign Brings the Alt-Right Out of the Shadows

The alt-right, a mostly anonymous internet subculture, has been introduced to the mainstream thanks to the 2016 presidential campaign.

First Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump hired controversial political figure Steve Bannon to a major position within his campaign.

Then Hillary Clinton attacked him for it, claiming that Trump has associated himself with alt-right themes throughout his campaign -- nationalism, closed borders and race separation.

After she delivered a scathing speech Thursday, tying Donald Trump the movement, it exploded into everyday vernacular.

In the span of 24 hours, the words alt-right and discussion about it blanketed 24-hour cable news, it was covered in every major mainstream news outlet from NBC News to the New York Times to Vice News to the Voice of America.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/presidential-campaign-brings-alt-right-out-shadows-n638396?cid=sm_fb_lastword

Nothing new here. Trash has made blatant what the Repugs have had as campaign tactics, and actual policies for 50 years.

[Th'Pusher]

The alt right is pretty well represented here in spurs talk, tbh.

[ducks]

An NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll from last week showed that 8% of black voters are supporting Trump while 87% are supporting Clinton.

8 percent and climbing

[boutons_deux]

Trash is as trash says

Donald Trump to sexual harassment victims, 'find another career' if you're so unhappy

Donald Trump has decided to elaborate on his opinion of the sexual harassment charges against former Fox News CEO

Speaking with Fox News' Kirsten Powers, Trump sad it was "very sad" that women were accusing Ailes of harassment, questioning why those same women has previously praised him in the past.

Trump told Powers that Carlson has said "fabulous things" about Ailes, which apparently led him to raise questions.

When asked if his daughter Ivanka was in the same position, allegedly being sexually harassed, Trump responded accordingly.

"I would like to think she would find another career or find another company if that was the case."

http://us.blastingnews.com/news/2016/08/donald-trump-to-sexual-harassment-victims-find-another-career-if-you-re-so-unhappy-001047109.html

Just fucking wow. Trash is just super-duper OK with sexual harassment. What a piece of shit. No doubt his done his share of sexual harassment.

[boutons_deux]

In line with Trash's "if you liked being sexually harassed, girl, get another job", Trash listens to a lifelong sexual harasser

Roger Ailes’ role on Team Trump draws scrutiny


MADDOW: Is Roger Ailes working as part of the Donald Trump campaign?

CONWAY: No. He is not a formal or informal adviser. They’re old friends. I mean, he’s Donald Trump. He talks to a lot of people. Something is always ringing. […]

MADDOW: Roger Ailes, no role in the campaign, though?

CONWAY: Roger Ailes has no formally or informal role in the campaign, no. But he is a marketing genius.


A “marketing genius” who was recently accused of grotesque and indefensible workplace behavior.

the campaign manager was nevertheless categorical: Ailes has no role on the team.

There’s nevertheless a fair amount of evidence of Ailes having at least some kind of role in the Republican operation.

The Washington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-and-advisers-remain-split-on-how-far-to-move-toward-the-middle/2016/08/26/e94f5eb4-6ba1-11e6-ba32-5a4bf5aad4fa_story.html) over the weekend, for example, that Ailes still has no formal role on the campaign, but the former Fox News chairman “talks to the candidate frequently and attended a strategy session last weekend.”


The Post’s Robert Costa added (https://twitter.com/costareports/status/769572925032759296) that Ailes is a member of Trump’s “new inner circle,” which includes a very small group of allies.

(Costa emphasized (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-august-28-2016-n639011) this again on “Meet the Press” yesterday.)

NBC News’ Kelly O’Donnell also reported (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/video/should-third-party-candidates-join-debates-744057411934) that Trump scheduled a debate-prep meeting yesterday at his New Jersey home, and Ailes, “who is advising Trump ahead of the debates,” was in attendance.

Conway’s response to Rachel didn’t leave much in the way of wiggle room – Ailes “is not a formal or informal adviser” – but it’s hard not to get the impression that the former Fox News chief, at a minimum, has the GOP candidate’s ear.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/roger-ailes-role-team-trump-draws-scrutiny?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Conway is competing with Pierson to see who can spout the worst bullshit, the biggest lies.

[boutons_deux]

Kellyanne Conway Calls Breitbart Chief ‘Consultant,’ Says Trump ‘Chose Me to Run His Campaign’

In a moment reminiscent of Reagan Secretary of StateAlexander Haig‘s “I’m in charge here” moment,

new Donald Trump campaign manager (http://www.mediaite.com/online/who-is-kellyanne-conway-the-newest-campaign-manager-for-donald-trump/) Kellyanne Conwayappeared to diminish the role of Breitbart News chairman and Trump campaign CEO Steve Bannon (http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-massively-shakes-up-staff-with-only-82-days-to-go-installs-breitbarts-bannon-as-ceo/)Sunday morning in an interview with Fox News Sunday’s Chris Wallace.

When pressed about Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton‘s speech blasting Trump’s courtship of the racist “alt-right,” (http://www.mediaite.com/online/hillary-clinton-accuses-donald-trump-of-promoting-multiple-racist-lies/)

Conway told Wallace that she’s in charge, and Bannon is a mere consultant:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/kellyanne-conway-calls-breitbart-chief-consultant-says-trump-chose-me-to-run-his-campaign/

[Reck]

An NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll from last week showed that 8% of black voters are supporting Trump while 87% are supporting Clinton.

8 percent and climbing

:lol ducks

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

[boutons_deux]

What Is The Alt-Right?


http://i.onionstatic.com/onion/5417/9/16x9/1200.jpg



A recent speech by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton criticizing the “alt-right” movement and its support of Republican nominee Donald Trump has shone the national spotlight on the ideologically conservative group. Here’s what you need to know about the alt-right:

Beliefs

Why ruin your day by getting into this?

Precursors

Long lineage of conservative philosophers including Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Julius Evola, and “U Mad Bro” 4chan meme

Membership

Over 40,000 individuals currently appealing ban on Wikipedia editor account

Origin

Although generally considered an online movement, the alt-right actually has its roots in the evolution of adrenal glands in vertebrates 525 million years ago

Against

Political correctness, immigration, feminism

For

Being against political correctness, immigration, feminism

Notable Achievements

Finally convincing Twitter to take online harassment seriously

History

Movement began in earnest after Ronald Reagan aired his famous “It’s Morning In Cuckmerica” campaign ad in 1984

How It Differs From Traditional Conservatism

Even less diverse

Chief Opponents

Social media sites’ conduct policies

Goals

Members hope to preserve European culture, promote nativism, feel less sad and angry about everything all the time, and oppose political correctness

How Long Will The Movement Last?

As long as there are libtards that need uncucking

http://www.theonion.com/infographic/what-alt-right-53747 (http://www.theonion.com/infographic/what-alt-right-53747)

[boutons_deux]

In Trump’s new ad, keep an eye on the fine print

Team Trump unveiled (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/08/29/daily-202-why-the-gop-establishment-embraces-trump-in-iowa-more-than-any-other-battleground/57c36df3cd249a6fcddb9f50/) its second ad, and this time, the economy really is the focus.

“In Hillary Clinton’s America, the middle class gets crushed,” a narrator says. “In Donald Trump’s America, working families get tax relief.

Millions of new jobs created. :lol

Wages go up. :lol

Small businesses thrive. :lol

The American Dream, achievable. :lol

Change that makes America great again.” :lol

NBC News reported (http://www.nbcnews.com/card/trump-launches-biggest-tv-ad-buy-date-n639261%20https://youtu.be/4obk0P2YCFg) that the 30-second spot, which is online here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4obk0P2YCFg&feature=youtu.be), is part of a significant ad buy – “about $10 million over the next week or so” – and will air in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.

By and large, it’s pretty much a boilerplate message we’d expect from any GOP candidate in any election cycle, effectively arguing, “Democrats will raise taxes; I’ll cut them; and tax cuts create prosperity.” It’s nothing Americans haven’t heard before.

But what I found notable about the ad was the fine print.

To the Trump campaign’s credit, the commercial includes footnotes of sorts for many of its core claims.

For example, at the 15-second mark, when the narrator says “working families get tax relief” in Trump’s America, there’s small text at the bottom that reads, “A Pro-Growth Tax Code For All Americans, GOP: A Better Way, 6/24/16.”

Why does that matter? Because

“A Pro-Growth Tax Code For All Americans, GOP: A Better Way, 6/24/16” is House Speaker Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) tax plan, not Donald Trump’s. They’re actually pretty different,

and include their own marginal rates, which makes it odd for Trump to cite the House GOP’s plan as if it were his own.

A couple of seconds later, the same ad includes fine print that reads, “ ‘Details and analysis of the 2016 House Republican Tax Reform Plan,’ Tax Foundation, 7/15/16.” And while I’d take issue with the center-right Tax Foundation’s analysis of Ryan’s plan, the point is, again, that Trump has a different plan.

At the 19-second mark, note that the fine print reads, “ ‘Details and analysis of Donald Trump’s Tax Plan, Tax Foundation, 9/29/15.” And while that’s certainly closer to being applicable,

what the ad doesn’t mention is that Trump has since abandoned that tax plan, unveiling a new blueprint three weeks ago (http://www.vox.com/2016/8/9/12412066/donald-trump-tax-plan-changes).

There are some core questions that obviously deserve to be part of the national debate this election season:

Is Trump correct that massive tax breaks for the wealthy trickle prosperity down on everyone else? :lol

Especially with unemployment being cut from 10% to below 5%, are far-right economic ideas really the appropriate course?

Why would the candidate who says U.S. wages are already “too high” promise voters increased wages? :lol

But as important as these lines of inquiry are, this new ad suggests the Trump campaign isn’t altogether familiar with its own platform.

As MSNBC’s Benjy Sarlin asked (https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/770257236014792704),

Trump’s commercial “twice cites the House GOP tax plan.

Then it cites his old tax plan,

which has totally different rates.

What is his plan?”

Don’t ask Trump and his aides; they don’t appear to know.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-new-ad-keep-eye-the-fine-print?cid=sm_fb_maddow

:lol

Of course, the Trash supporters are stupid, ignorant, emotionally, not rationally, committed to Trash, so analysis such as above is totally incomprehensible and, to them, irrelevant.

[cd021]

Whatever Trump has done to negatively impact blacks dwarfs in comparison to the devastating effects Clinton policies had on black families, mainly doubling the prison population while Bill was in office. How do black people get past that fact and still vote for Clinton?

That is true, and the Clinton's haven't run from that either. Clinton (Bill) said that he was a part of the problem. There is also the fact that children of parents that are incarcerated are 7x more likely be imprisoned, creating a cycle.

The fascinating thing is that the GOP can't hit the Clinton's on that because blacks have no interest in anything the GOP is trying to sell and the GOP has either given up or intentionally Whether true or not; the GOP has been seen as a racist party. There are certainly some that seem to qualify (Maine's Governor recent meltdown isn't helping that perception).

Trump has a long track record of saying and doing things that can be considered racist, starting in 1974 with being sued for housing discrimination, which has been reported on extensively.

And then there are the endorsements of David Duke and Tom Metzger (both former leaders of the KKK) , The American Nazi Party, and the KKK, who all have endorsed him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aXgDTK-Iz8&feature=youtu.be

this actually first aired in VA, a state with a black population of 20% and almost 30% non-white.

That's apart of the reason why he is down 16 points here, blacks and other minorities aren't going to vote for someone who attracts this type of support, and the weren't likely to back the GOP in this election anyway given the voting trends.

As for Clinton, I think its less about her and more about how Blacks really like Bill Clinton, the Obama's, and Sanders ( black millennials at least) and have been voting Democrat for eight decades that play into her massive lead (she is up 91 to 1% with 8 percent undecided)

[Reck]

I like what one dude said on TV.

The Trumps have been getting sued and saying racist things since the 70s.

The Clinton's, in the case of Hillary have been trying to help the black communities since the 70s.

Also..

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history

[Trill Clinton]

it took hillary clinton to run for president for bigots and white supremacists to finally acknowledge that the war on drugs and mass incarceration were racist policies that targeted blackshttp://i66.tinypic.com/xmo09f.png

[TheSanityAnnex]

it took hillary clinton to run for president for bigots and white supremacists to finally acknowledge that the war on drugs and mass incarceration were racist policies that targeted blackshttp://i66.tinypic.com/xmo09f.png
Having said that, why are you voting for Clinton?

[Reck]

Having said that, why are you voting for Clinton?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263040&page=4&p=8714595&viewfull=1#post8714595

[Trill Clinton]

Having said that, why are you voting for Clinton?

where did i say i was voting for clinton?

[ducks]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-anthony-weiner-sexting-000000444.html

[Reck]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-anthony-weiner-sexting-000000444.html

And you think this is fit for someone who wants to be president?

Why is Trump in other people's business? This is between two couple that's not named Trump or Melania.

[cd021]

it took hillary clinton to run for president for bigots and white supremacists to finally acknowledge that the war on drugs and mass incarceration were racist policies that targeted blackshttp://i66.tinypic.com/xmo09f.png

The Truth.

[cd021]

I like what one dude said on TV.

The Trumps have been getting sued and saying racist things since the 70s.

The Clinton's, in the case of Hillary have been trying to help the black communities since the 70s.

Also..

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history

Huff Po also did a similar article detailing his racism. The one he said in Playboy is the rare one where he insults blacks and Jewish people in like 30 words.

Its fitting that minorities are going to be the reason why he gets hammered. :lol

[spurraider21]

Having said that, why are you voting for Clinton?
probably cause her opponent is trump

[ducks]

APPLE ORDERED TO PAY $15B EU TAX
woud it not be nice if it went to the usa debt not theirs!

[ducks]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/30/politics/fbi-report-hillary-clinton-investigation/index.html FBI TO RELEASE EMAILS!

[clambake]

pretty quiet in here.

what is today's red team outrage?

what is today's blue team outrage?

[CosmicCowboy]

pretty quiet in here.

what is today's red team outrage?

what is today's blue team outrage?

I just posted one that should be a purple team outrage.

[boutons_deux]

APPLE ORDERED TO PAY $15B EU TAX
woud it not be nice if it went to the usa debt not theirs!

Ireland is APPEALING the ruling so they don't get the money, don't want the precedent of NOT being a safe , reliable offshore tax evading haven.

[boutons_deux]

Trash debacle shows why kids shouldn’t run the campaign

Trump, however, has no top-flight people around him. He has never been able to trust or enlist people who have won presidential races.

In essence, by default and, perhaps, because of his frail ego and distrust of those who know more than he does, he has turned his three adult children and son-in-law into his top campaign echelon.

Ivanka Trump’s husband, Jared Kushner, reportedly helped draft speeches and has overseen “virtually every facet (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/05/us/politics/jared-kushner-donald-trump.html)” of the Trump campaign.

For starters, the Trump children have zero experience running a campaign and no more command of policy than Trump himself.

Moreover, you cannot fire your kids, nor can they quit.

if you live the rarefied life of a billionaire, insulated from the concerns and pressures of ordinary people, you probably don’t want to surround yourself with millionaire/billionaire children insulated from the concerns and pressures of ordinary people. Their friends, experiences and perspective are as unrepresentative of ordinary America as your own. All you are doing is magnifying the blind spots and minimizing the opportunity for corrective action.

In Trump’s case, over-reliance on his kids is a reflection of both his narcissism and deep insecurity (which, I suppose, is at the root of the former). He believes he knows it all.

Professionals are “stupid” and “incompetent.” (Some are, but he cannot distinguish between the stupid and the smart, the incompetent and the expert.)

He has not the patience nor the capacity to learn policy or master the fine points of political strategy;

he therefore is loath to interact with professionals who’d figure out that he, in essence, is a fraud woefully uninformed about anything beyond his own business.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/08/17/trump-debacle-shows-why-kids-shouldnt-run-the-campaign/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_1_na&utm_term=.a31eed2f2f04

Trash! :lol

Trash supporters! :lol

D E B A C L E ! :lol

[DMX7]

Trump speaking right now!!!

[DMX7]

Mr. Trump, you don't have to repeatedly say "believe me" during your speeches. I believe you!!!

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFlwh4kq_ls

[Reck]

Trump going to Mexico. :lol

Probably won't come back alive. lmao

[boutons_deux]

Fmr. Mexican President Fox Slams Trump’s ‘Political Stunt’: ‘130 Million People Reject His Visit’

Vicente Fox, who was President of Mexico from 2000 to 2006, has been a sharp critic of Donald Trump‘s for much of the last year. In May, Fox referred to the real estate mogul as, “the hated gringo (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/former-mexican-president-donald-trump-is-an-ugly-american-the-hated-gringo/),” and in February of this year he defiantly asserted (http://www.mediaite.com/online/former-mexican-president-were-not-paying-for-that-fcking-wall/), “[we’re] not paying for that fucking wall.”

Trump is set to visit Mexico today and meet with incumbent presidentEnrique Peña Nieto, a leader who has seen his own precipitous drop in the polls this year (http://www.mediaite.com/online/mexicos-desperate-president-meets-with-trump-while-both-face-abysmally-low-approval-ratings/). Fox spoke with CNN’s Chris Cuomo this morning, telling the host in no uncertain terms, “[Donald Trump’ is not welcome.

He is not welcome, by 130 million people. We don’t like him, we don’t want him. We reject his visit. I don’t understand why President Peña has offered this opportunity. I think it’s nothing more than a political stunt.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/fmr-mexican-president-fox-slams-trumps-political-stunt-130-million-people-reject-his-visit/

[boutons_deux]

“Not welcome”: Massive protests planned for Trump’s trip to Mexico

With less than 24 hour notice, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump accepted an open invitation from Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto to visit the country less than 70 days before the U.S. election and on the same day Trump is set to deliver a pivotal speech on immigration in Arizona.

The Washington Post first broke news (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-considers-last-minute-meeting-in-mexico-with-the-countrys-president/2016/08/30/5a694790-6f12-11e6-9705-23e51a2f424d_story.html) of Trump’s hastily planned jaunt to Mexico City late Tuesday night.


In an interview with CNN in July, Peña Nieto said there was “no way” Mexico would pay for a border wall. The GOP candidate only enjoys a 4 percent favorable rating from Mexican citizens, according to a Reforma newspaper poll (http://gruporeforma-blogs.com/encuestas/) published August 16.

The surprise event, closed to the public, is already engendering calls for a massive protest of the candidate who decried that Mexico is sending “rapists” and “criminals” across the border illegally.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrKoAD_VUAARquO.jpg

http://www.salon.com/2016/08/31/not-welcome-massive-protests-planned-for-trumps-trip-to-mexico/

Trash and his sycophant handlers don't have a clue.

[ducks]

The USA Today NinersWire transcript of the follow-up discussion shows that Kaepernick added, "You have Hillary who has called black teens or black kids super predators."

[ducks]

Last night Trump set an all-time ATTENDANCE RECORD for the Xfinity arena in Everett, Washington in the arena’s 13-year history! What does that tell you?

[Fabbs]

Last night Trump set an all-time ATTENDANCE RECORD for the Xfinity arena in Everett, Washington in the arena’s 13-year history! What does that tell you?
They've had a lot of low attendance events.

[baseline bum]

Last night Trump set an all-time ATTENDANCE RECORD for the Xfinity arena in Everett, Washington in the arena’s 13-year history! What does that tell you?

That there is going to be 10,000 motherfuckers up in Everett really pissed off on November 8th?

[TheGreatYacht]

Trump looked weak and pathetic. Typical cuck

[clambake]

looks like trump is gonna wrap this thing up.

[boutons_deux]

Trump campaign CEO and manager part of secret ‘extremist’ right-wing group: SPLC

The Southern Poverty Law Center reported Wednesday that the two most high-profile recent hires by the Donald Trump 2016 campaign are both members of a secret radical group of the country’s most powerful white nationalists and far right operatives.

According to an SPLC statement (https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/08/31/revealed-conway-bannon-members-secretive-group), Breitbart.com CEO

Stephen Bannon and pollster Kellyanne Conway

— hired as Trump 2016’s CEO and campaign manager, respectively —

are members of the Council for National Policy (CNP), a highly secretive group that includes a roster of controversial white supremacists and rightwing agitators.

“The CNP is not controversial so much for the conservatives who dominate it — activists of the religious right and the so-called ‘culture wars,’ along with a smattering of wealthy financiers, Congressional operatives, right-wing consultants and Tea Party operatives — as for the many real extremists who are included,”

The SPLC was able to obtain the CNP’s closely-guarded 2014 membership directory and found that it included “people like

Michael Peroutka, a neo-Confederate who for years was on the board of the white supremacist League of the South;

Jerome Corsi, a strident Obama ‘birther’ and the propagandist hit man responsible for the ‘Swift boating’ of John Kerry;

Joseph Farah (https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/joseph-francis-farah), who runs the wildly conspiracist “news” operation known as WorldNetDaily;

Mat Staver, the Liberty Counsel leader who has worked to re-criminalize gay sex;

Philip Zodhaites, another anti-gay activist who is charged with helping a self-described former lesbian who kidnapped her daughter from her former partner and fled the country; and a large number of other similar characters.”

Conway and Bannon’s names both appear on the CNP’s 2014 membership roster.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/trump-campaign-ceo-and-manager-part-of-secret-extremist-right-wing-group-splc/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol Trash is gonna carry the black vote! :lol

[clambake]

so much for secret.

[rmt]

Last night Trump set an all-time ATTENDANCE RECORD for the Xfinity arena in Everett, Washington in the arena’s 13-year history! What does that tell you?

Why is Trump wasting time campaigning in Washington?

[boutons_deux]

Why is Trump wasting time campaigning in Washington?

same reason he campaigned in CT.

[clambake]

a new fox poll shows trump only 1% behind.

[DMX7]

Mr. Trump will be giving a major speech tonight.

[tlongII]

a new fox poll shows trump only 1% behind.

They must be polling their audience.

[clambake]

They must be polling their audience.

oh good. so its legit.

[DMX7]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio is speaking. I wonder who he's voting for.

[Reck]

a new fox poll shows trump only 1% behind.



General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_st ein-5952.html)
FOX News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/31/fox-news-poll-trump-narrows-clintons-lead.html)
Clinton 41, Trump 39, Johnson 9, Stein 4 (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_st ein-5952.html)
Clinton +2


General Election: Trump vs. Clinton (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html)
FOX News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/31/fox-news-poll-trump-narrows-clintons-lead.html)
Clinton 48, Trump 42 (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html)
Clinton +6



Still behind by a lot when compare head to head.

[spurraider21]

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_st ein-5952.html)
FOX News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/31/fox-news-poll-trump-narrows-clintons-lead.html)
Clinton 41, Trump 39, Johnson 9, Stein 4 (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_st ein-5952.html)
Clinton +2


General Election: Trump vs. Clinton (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html)
FOX News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/31/fox-news-poll-trump-narrows-clintons-lead.html)
Clinton 48, Trump 42 (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html)
Clinton +6



Still behind by a lot when compare head to head.
its really odd. even if you give all the stein votes to hillary, she's up 5 points in a 3 way race compare to being up 6 points head to head. weird that johnson actually is a net negative for her. conventional logic says johnson would be taking almost all trump votes

[Reck]

So Trump badly wants the black vote but calls Obama "weak and foolish." :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

So Trump badly wants the black vote but calls Obama "weak and foolish." :lol
Are you suggesting blacks only voted for Obama based on his skin color?

[Reck]

Are you suggesting blacks only voted for Obama based on his skin color?

No dumbass, but he's the president who happens to be black and most of them look up to him.

It's common sense that if you want a core group you dont attack their leader. In fact just last week he was prasing Obama when he was pandering to the blacks. Now he's weak? :lol

Goodbye African American vote.

[boutons_deux]

Are you suggesting blacks only voted for Obama based on his skin color?

People vote for and against candidates by skin color.

It's called "racial or ethnic identity politics"

[Reck]

Oh and btw, this speech is a carbon copy of his Convention speech. America is hell, I alone will save it.

[Reck]

Trump just gave Hillary a bump in the polls.

We will deport on mass. :lmao

[DMX7]

Is he ever going to do a rally in a battleground state? I guess Arizona is becoming one, lol.

[ducks]

They must be polling their audience.

yeah except a month ago he was down 10 same poll

[ducks]

So Trump badly wants the black vote but calls Obama "weak and foolish." :lol

why should he lie

[ducks]

Obama got their vote because he was a democrat and ignored by the republicans

[InRareForm]

the drunk repub crowd is getting tired tbh

[Reck]

In a very Trump way, he insults his own audience.

"I bet there are some illegals in this room right now." :lmao

[ducks]

Is he ever going to do a rally in a battleground state? I guess Arizona is becoming one, lol.

gave a speech in nc battleground

[DMX7]

Trump: We're [America] like the big bully that keeps getting beat up.

It's usually not the big bully that keeps getting beaten up. :lol

[ducks]

Trump: We're [America] like the big bully that keeps getting beat up.

It's usually not the big bully that keeps getting beaten up. :lol

china is beating the hell out of AMERICA

[Reck]

china is beating the hell out of AMERICA

How? They opressed their own people.

[ducks]

How? They opressed their own people.

trade

[TheSanityAnnex]

No dumbass, but he's the president who happens to be black and most of them look up to him.

It's common sense that if you want a core group you dont attack their leader. In fact just last week he was prasing Obama when he was pandering to the blacks. Now he's weak? :lol

Goodbye African American vote.
That's pretty insulting to assume that just because he is black he is their "leader". What has Obama done for the black community that would make them look up to him? What has improved for blacks under an Obama presidency? Be specific.

[DMX7]

The Angel moms!

[DMX7]

Damn, the Angel Moms and Dads did a great job. If Trump had used the earlier in the campaign, we would have had a much more powerful message. Instead he got sidetracked with the racist shit.

[Reck]

That's pretty insulting to assume that just because he is black he is their "leader". What has Obama done for the black community that would make them look up to him? What has improved for blacks under an Obama presidency? Be specific.

Let me rephrase it. He's our leader.

Unless you live in Canada, he's your president, too.

[Fabbs]

offering any real solutions or just more blow hardedness?

[Reck]

offering any real solutions or just more blow hardedness?

New extreme.

Speech universally panned already. All Networks lolling at the clown.

[spurraider21]

Step right up! Step right up and talk about your dead children!

[TheSanityAnnex]

Let me rephrase it. He's our leader.

Unless you live in Canada, he's your president, too.
Fair enough he is everybody's leader. You still didn't answer the questions though.
What has Obama done for the black community that would make them look up to him? What has improved for blacks under an Obama presidency? Be specific.