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Spurminator
03-31-2016, 12:46 PM
Trump, assorted assholes, and Christian Taliban say, if illegal, a woman (only) should be punished.
See, that's not true either.
All of them favor punishment for the doctors that carry out abortions.
Trump, assorted assholes, and Christian Taliban say, if illegal, a woman (only) should be punished.
That's not right. They consistently say the doctor should be punished and usually only implicitly state that the woman should be punished too (if at all).
Chinook
03-31-2016, 12:55 PM
See, that's not true either.
Not only is it not true, but it's extremely off base. The reason why right is upset with Trump is because they believe women aren't responsible for abortions. They think it's something that's done to them, not something they do. Trump seems to be the only one in his party that considered women moral agents rather than moral patients. The left is getting mad at the wrong people.
clambake
03-31-2016, 01:02 PM
Not only is it not true, but it's extremely off base. The reason why right is upset with Trump is because they believe women aren't responsible for abortions. They think it's something that's done to them, not something they do. Trump seems to be the only one in his party that considered women moral agents rather than moral patients. The left is getting mad at the wrong people.
thats what the right thinks?
Chinook
03-31-2016, 01:06 PM
thats what the right thinks?
Not all of them. I mean the pro-lifers that bout is talking about, especially the extreme ones on this issue. I stand by the party line until a Republican comes out and disagrees with the hate Trump is getting for his comments.
CosmicCowboy
03-31-2016, 01:15 PM
FWIW Trump already walked it back and doesn't advocate punishing the woman.
Quite honestly I think he is only pro life now to try to suck up to the base so he can get elected. If he actually got to be president I doubt you would ever hear anything about banning abortion.
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 01:21 PM
FWIW Trump already walked it back and doesn't advocate punishing the woman.
Quite honestly I think he is only pro life now to try to suck up to the base so he can get elected. If he actually got to be president I doubt you would ever hear anything about banning abortion.
just like truest words are spoken in jest, truest words are often spoken off the jerking knee. Donny's true position got clobbered, so he lies about it.
In any case, he'll NEVER be President, and is not a shoo in to be the 2016 candidate. At very best, he's a con man, mentally ill (extreme narcissism), and total liar.
... with 40% of polled American losers supporting him. :lol
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 01:30 PM
Trump stumbles on Supreme Court basics
Politico noted (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/trump-supreme-court-clinton-email-221377#ixzz44Oan627F), for example, Trump’s plan for the next high-court justice.
“Well, I’d probably appoint people that would look very seriously at her email disaster because it’s a criminal activity, and I would appoint people that would look very seriously at that to start off with,” Trump said in a phone interview with ABC’s “Good Morning America.”
Regardless of whether or not you consider Clinton’s email server management important, Trump’s rhetoric was nonsense. Supreme Court justices are not responsible for evaluating controversies surrounding politicians. It’s just not in their job description – it’s not how the court works. Trump seems to believe jurists on the nation’s highest court play some kind of prosecutorial role, which is a failure of Civics 101.
But to the broader point, it’s important to realize that Trump’s rhetoric about the Supreme Court used to be smarter.
At a debate last month, for example, Trump was asked about the death of Justice Antonin Scalia, and the Republican talked about who he’d nominate if given the opportunity.
“We could have a Diane Sykes or a Bill Pryor, we have some fantastic people,” he said (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/02/13/donald_trump_just_proposed_diane_sykes_and_bill_pr yor_for_the_supreme_court.html).
Sure, it was a memorized answer, but so what? It was a coherent memorized answer. Sykes and Pryor are right-wing, appeals court judges appointed by the Bush/Cheney administration., and if there were a GOP president right now, these are the kind of folks we’d expect him or her to consider for a Supreme Court vacancy. Trump’s debate answer at least made sense.
But in the weeks that followed, his approach has devolved.
Earlier this month, Trump moved away from his perfectly coherent answer to the Supreme Court question and said he’d leave it (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/03/22/3762275/trump-says-he-will-delegate-supreme-court-appointments-to-the-heritage-foundation/) to the “Heritage Foundation and others” to help him come up with a short list.
As of yesterday, he’s been reduced to looking for a justice who’ll go after Hillary Clinton.
Is Trump somehow getting worse at this, or is he pretending to be foolish because he thinks that’s what it takes to impress Republican primary voters?
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-stumbles-supreme-court-basics?cid=sm_fb_maddow
:lol
spurraider21
03-31-2016, 01:58 PM
it's not whether anyone "thinks" abortion is murder.
It's whether abortion is legal or illegal.
Trump, assorted assholes, and Christian Taliban say, if illegal, a woman (only) should be punished.
Abortionists and other accomplices to the crime aren't mentioned as punishable, only the (hated) woman.
did he say that?
CosmicCowboy
03-31-2016, 02:20 PM
did he say that?
Of course not. Typical Bookaki hysteria.
Blake
03-31-2016, 02:56 PM
Of course not. Typical Bookaki hysteria.
Eh, it wasn't that big of a flub. The main issue is that he said women should be punished which is ridiculous all on its own.
Sportcamper
03-31-2016, 03:06 PM
2016 has coined a new term…Electoral Dysfunction…
The inability to become aroused by any candidate…
Pelicans78
03-31-2016, 03:07 PM
No problem with it whatsoever. As long as Iran can have nukes as well of course. Hell even Pakistan has nukes and that country can't get more backwards if Terry tried :lol plus they are already Saudis servant nation.
Best case scenario, the entire middle east nukes themselves to oblivion :lol
Another genious move by Trump :lol
Do you try to post the craziest stuff for attention? Saudis nor Iran have any reason for nukes. And their run by religious nutjobs unlike Pakistan which is a functional democratic government with a nuclear enemy neighbor next door. Plus they don't make their women wear bee-hive outfits.
CosmicCowboy
03-31-2016, 03:08 PM
Eh, it wasn't that big of a flub. The main issue is that he said women should be punished which is ridiculous all on its own.
And then walked it back to the abortionist and not the women.
An amateur mistake a polished career politician wouldn't have made.
Personally I thing abortion is a dumb issue to start with but if he is gonna run as a Republican he is gonna have to play that game.
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 03:45 PM
All the numbers spell disaster for Trump: Latest projections portend electoral doom for both the billionaire and Republicans in November
Donald Trump’s dominance has obscured just how unpopular he is outside of the conservative bubble. Even among Republican voters, if you dig a little deeper, you find that Trump has serious problems. Nate Silver elaborates (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-donald-trump-hacked-the-media/):
“Trump has consistently had the plurality of Republican support in polls, but those same polls suggest that
Trump faces unusually high resistance from voters who don’t have him as their first choice…
Many of them would be unhappy with a Trump nomination, more than is typical for a polling front-runner.”
In short, Trump is extremely popular with his base, but deeply disliked by everyone else. Republican voters who have supported Cruz or Rubio or Kasich will not reliably unite behind Trump in November – that’s a problem for the GOP. Now that Cruz and Kasich are backing away from their pledge to support Trump if he wins the nomination, the landscape is even more challenging.
It’s worse if you extend the analysis to include the broader electorate.
As The Washington Post reports (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-would-be-least-popular-major-party-nominee-in-modern-times/2016/03/30/b4b077e0-f5e7-11e5-9804-537defcc3cf6_story.html), “If Donald Trump secures the Republican presidential nomination, he would start the general election campaign as the least-popular candidate to represent either party in modern times…
Three-quarters of women view him unfavorably.
So do nearly two-thirds of independents,
80 percent of young adults,
85 percent of Hispanics and
nearly half of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents.”
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/31/all_the_numbers_spell_disaster_for_trump_latest_pr ojections_portend_electoral_doom_for_both_the_bill ionaire_and_republicans_in_november/
pgardn
03-31-2016, 04:12 PM
Trump just toying with extremists emotions at this point. Feminazis, bible thumpers and mainstream media :lol
Hell unite the country when he's had enough
I have never seen one poster try to be so wrong about every subject on this board.
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 04:43 PM
did he say that?
he said the woman should be punished, he didn't say anybody else should be
spurraider21
03-31-2016, 04:48 PM
he said the woman should be punished, he didn't say anybody else should be
he was asked if women should be punished. he wasn't asked if anybody else should be.
YOU LIE... typical of VLWC leftwingnuts like yourself who will vote for shillary in the generals
tlongII
03-31-2016, 05:12 PM
he was asked if women should be punished. he wasn't asked if anybody else should be.
YOU LIE... typical of VLWC leftwingnuts like yourself who will vote for shillary in the generals
He also recanted his statement and said women should not be punished. Instead it should be the physicians if they broke the law. And they should if they break the law. After all, that's what we have laws for right? But Boots is too stupid to understand this.
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 05:17 PM
Instead it should be the physicians if they broke the law. And they should if they break the law. After all, that's what we have laws for right?
When someone hires a hitman, are they punished, or does only the hitman get punished?
Nbadan
03-31-2016, 07:16 PM
The moment Trump lost any chance of winning...
At the end of that whole segment, just before the commercial break, Chris asked him if the guy who had gotten the woman who had an illegal abortion pregnant should also be punished. After hemming and hawing for a few seconds - during which Chris pointed out that ‘some would say the guy had something to do with it’, Trump said simply...
“No.”
There were audible gasps from the pro-Trump audience members, a good portion of which were women.
tlongII
03-31-2016, 07:20 PM
When someone hires a hitman, are they punished, or does only the hitman get punished?
False equivalence.
tlongII
03-31-2016, 07:22 PM
The moment Trump lost any chance of winning...
There were audible gasps from the pro-Trump audience members, a good portion of which were women.
I agree with Trump.
hater
03-31-2016, 07:50 PM
The moment Trump lost any chance of winning...
There were audible gasps from the pro-Trump audience members, a good portion of which were women.
Lmao what the fuck u talking about? If the father was not complicit to the abortion what law did he break?
Trump is 200% right on this one
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 08:37 PM
False equivalence.
Murder is murder.
spurraider21
03-31-2016, 08:50 PM
Murder is murder.
Conspiracy to murder is not murder
Hater getting dominated in the post. :lol
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 09:22 PM
Conspiracy to murder is not murder
I'm having trouble finding a fundamental difference between a woman approaching someone to illegally murder someone (if that's the law) and a hitman scenario.
spurraider21
03-31-2016, 09:51 PM
I'm having trouble finding a fundamental difference between a woman approaching someone to illegally murder someone (if that's the law) and a hitman scenario.
i'm not. i'm saying hiring a hitman isn't the same as being a hitman
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 09:52 PM
i'm not. i'm saying hiring a hitman isn't the same as being a hitman
I don't think it is either, but you still get punished if you hire a hitman.
spurraider21
03-31-2016, 09:53 PM
I don't think it is either, but you still get punished if you hire a hitman.
of course. i think i misunderstood when you said "murder is murder" you were referring to the hitman and the hirer of the hitman
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 09:58 PM
Gotcha. Right, I don't think pro-lifers equate abortion doctors with women having abortions, but I do believe that most would favor some punishment for the woman seeking the abortion.
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 10:07 PM
There were audible gasps from the pro-Trump audience members, a good portion of which were women.
And this is just stupid, tbh.
Pelicans78
03-31-2016, 10:10 PM
Pro-lifers have never thought about punishing the woman for the abortion. It's always been about banning abortions and punishing doctors who perform them. Trump got it all wrong which is why both sides have pummeled him.
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 10:24 PM
If that's really what pro-lifers believe then they have a serious message problem. Maybe this will cause them to rethink the hysterics moving forward. And they should really try not to go off script in casual, private conversations either.
InRareForm
03-31-2016, 11:09 PM
Stunning updated odds:
Trump -250
Cruz +250
Kasich +400
(Repub nomination)
Trump was -1200 a few weeks ago btw
Stunning updated odds:
Trump -250
Cruz +250
Kasich +400
(Repub nomination)
Trump was -1200 a few weeks ago btw
Where is the link? I want to show this to a really pathetic friend of mine who wouldn't believe this without a "source."
hater
04-01-2016, 12:01 AM
Do you try to post the craziest stuff for attention? Saudis nor Iran have any reason for nukes. And their run by religious nutjobs unlike Pakistan which is a functional democratic government with a nuclear enemy neighbor next door. Plus they don't make their women wear bee-hive outfits.
Lmao is you retard? Iran has no reason to nukes? Saudi has no reason? Pretty much any country in the world covets nukes.
Isn't Israel Irans mortal enemy who possesses 200+ nukes??
You seem to live in a fictional fantasy land bro.
Saudi and Iran would kill for nukes
hater
04-01-2016, 12:02 AM
I agree with Trump.
I agree with you bratha
InRareForm
04-01-2016, 12:14 AM
Where is the link? I want to show this to a really pathetic friend of mine who wouldn't believe this without a "source."
http://www.bovada.lv
political section
Pelicans78
04-01-2016, 03:30 AM
Lmao is you retard? Iran has no reason to nukes? Saudi has no reason? Pretty much any country in the world covets nukes.
Isn't Israel Irans mortal enemy who possesses 200+ nukes??
You seem to live in a fictional fantasy land bro.
Saudi and Iran would kill for nukes
Iran's mortal enemy used to be Saddam. Israel isn't a threat to them in the way India is a threat to Pakistan. Same way with the Saudis. They don't have a hostile neighbor with nukes like Pakistan does with India. So yeah, they don't have a viable reason to get nukes like Pakistan did in the 90s.
Chinook
04-01-2016, 06:33 AM
If that's really what pro-lifers believe then they have a serious message problem.
It's actually consistent with an "anti-choice" designation. As I said earlier, it implies that they don't consider women moral agents (people capable of making full rational decisions for which they are held responsible) but instead moral patients (those who lack agency but whom agents have to protect). They want to reduce women to animals or at least children, trying to preserve the belief that they didn't known what they were doing or that they were being tricked.
It's disturbing and paternalistic, and Trump had a great opportunity to come out and show how he's the most pro-woman than his counterparts. But in today's PC world where people are only looking for sound bites to latch onto, there probably wasn't a way for him to get that very important argument across, even if he was able to articulate it.
boutons_deux
04-01-2016, 06:35 AM
"It's disturbing and paternalistic"
and it's in the Bible.
hater
04-01-2016, 06:44 AM
Iran's mortal enemy used to be Saddam. Israel isn't a threat to them in the way India is a threat to Pakistan. Same way with the Saudis. They don't have a hostile neighbor with nukes like Pakistan does with India. So yeah, they don't have a viable reason to get nukes like Pakistan did in the 90s.
Wrong wrong and wrong.
Irans mortal enemies are Israel and Saudi.
Israel and Saudis mortal enemy is Iran. They already engaged in proxy wars and have been for years.
Wake up
Chinook
04-01-2016, 07:00 AM
"It's disturbing and paternalistic"
and it's in the Bible.
And it's part of both parties' platforms. That's why humans are disgusting if you let them talk long enough.
pgardn
04-01-2016, 07:55 AM
And it's part of both parties' platforms. That's why humans are disgusting if you let them talk long enough.
This is an art form in some cases.
Lead them to go on and remove the mask.
SnakeBoy
04-01-2016, 08:35 AM
Iran's mortal enemy used to be Saddam. Israel isn't a threat to them in the way India is a threat to Pakistan. Same way with the Saudis. They don't have a hostile neighbor with nukes like Pakistan does with India. So yeah, they don't have a viable reason to get nukes like Pakistan did in the 90s.
lol Iran wants nukes to protect themselves from us.
lol Iran wants nukes to protect themselves from us.
Which makes Trump's comments even more stupid. Dont you think?
Its like handing your enemy a gun and saying shoot me will ya? Nukes are bad for business, period. Allied or otherwise.
SnakeBoy
04-01-2016, 09:01 AM
Which makes Trump's comments even more stupid. Dont you think?
Its like handing your enemy a gun and saying shoot me will ya? Nukes are bad for business, period. Allied or otherwise.
The evidence is that nukes promote peace.
The evidence is that nukes promote peace.
Peace by impending fear.
Pelicans78
04-01-2016, 10:06 AM
lol Iran wants nukes to protect themselves from us.
Not necessarily. They sponsor alot of terror groups against Israel. And protection from the U.S is not a viable reason.
boutons_deux
04-01-2016, 11:06 AM
Romney, Ryan won’t come to the Republicans’ rescue
It’s a dream more than a few Republican officials have no doubt had in recent months: the party’s presidential nominating contest remains unresolved through June, and a contested election opens the door to Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan rescuing Republicans by riding in on a white horse. “Finally!” party officials declare in the dream. “Our establishment heroes will rescue us from the dreaded Trump monster!”
PPP’s newest national poll finds that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan wouldn’t exactly be the solution to the GOP’s Donald Trump problem, with Romney doing even worse head to head against Hillary Clinton than Trump does.
In the PPP results, both Clinton and Sanders lead Trump by about eight points nationally. Romney, however, trails both of the Democratic candidates by double digits.
“Romney is incredibly unpopular nationally now – his 23/65 favorability rating is even worse than the 29/63 Trump comes in at.” It may seem odd, but when Romney delivered his recent speech condemning Trump, most of the public liked the attacker even less than his target.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/romney-ryan-wont-come-the-republicans-rescue?cid=sm_fb_maddow
You Repugs are so fucked! :lol
How funny would it be if the GOP nominated a Romney/Ryan ticket again?
spurraider21
04-01-2016, 11:40 AM
Romney, Ryan won’t come to the Republicans’ rescue
It’s a dream more than a few Republican officials have no doubt had in recent months: the party’s presidential nominating contest remains unresolved through June, and a contested election opens the door to Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan rescuing Republicans by riding in on a white horse. “Finally!” party officials declare in the dream. “Our establishment heroes will rescue us from the dreaded Trump monster!”
PPP’s newest national poll finds that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan wouldn’t exactly be the solution to the GOP’s Donald Trump problem, with Romney doing even worse head to head against Hillary Clinton than Trump does.
In the PPP results, both Clinton and Sanders lead Trump by about eight points nationally. Romney, however, trails both of the Democratic candidates by double digits.
“Romney is incredibly unpopular nationally now – his 23/65 favorability rating is even worse than the 29/63 Trump comes in at.” It may seem odd, but when Romney delivered his recent speech condemning Trump, most of the public liked the attacker even less than his target.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/romney-ryan-wont-come-the-republicans-rescue?cid=sm_fb_maddow
You Repugs are so fucked! :lol
who's gna save the democrats if Krazy Klinton gets the nom?
djohn2oo8
04-01-2016, 12:49 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/trumps-uphill-delegate-scramble-221443
Seemw it just might happen
boutons_deux
04-01-2016, 01:00 PM
who's gna save the democrats if Krazy Klinton gets the nom?
Any Repug will get stomped by Hillz, and stomped worse by Bernie.
spurraider21
04-01-2016, 01:04 PM
Any Repug will get stomped by Hillz, and stomped worse by Bernie.
Krazy Klinton can do damage to the democrats while in office
Krazy Klinton can do damage to the democrats while in office
Bernie will banrupt us trying to get free tuiton for everybody and universal healthcare. It evens out.
spurraider21
04-01-2016, 01:11 PM
Bernie will banrupt us trying to get free tuiton for everybody and universal healthcare. It evens out.
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I am aware how he wants to do it. Doesn't make it a realistic goal.
spurraider21
04-01-2016, 01:23 PM
I am aware how he wants to do it. Doesn't make it a realistic goal.
so if he doesn't get it done, then how is he going to bankrupt the country?
so if he doesn't get it done, then how is he going to bankrupt the country?
I said trying to.
spurraider21
04-01-2016, 01:38 PM
I said trying to.
you said "he will bankrupt us trying to..."
you said "he will bankrupt us trying to..."
Yes, and?
spurraider21
04-01-2016, 01:45 PM
your wording implies the bankrupting is going to happen just by him trying, even if he doesnt get it done
your wording implies the bankrupting is going to happen just by him trying, even if he doesnt get it done
If you got the message I was trying to go for, then what's the problem? Moving on.
hater
04-01-2016, 02:10 PM
:lmao Reck getting wrecked :lol
:lmao Reck getting wrecked :lol
How?
And how come you dissapear when people got you on the ropes and your idol is doing real shitty.
Just last night you were ducking me. :lmao
Exactly, hater I see you running again. Asshole. :lmao
InRareForm
04-01-2016, 05:24 PM
Lol wow
spurraider21
04-01-2016, 05:47 PM
yeah, i agree with chinook on the outrage over trump's comments being misplaced.
for the record, i'm completely pro choice and think abortions should be legal, but if we are dealing with a hypothetical scenario where an abortion is illegally done, then the "mother" should absolutely have some form of penalty.
boutons_deux
04-01-2016, 09:23 PM
Trump Takes His Fourth Position On Abortion In Three Days. He’ll Need To Change This One Immediately
UPDATE APR 1, 2016 8:29 PM
A Trump spokeswoman quickly walks back his statement, establishing his fifth position in three days:
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/04/01/3765914/trump-abortion-four-positions-three-days/
Milo Yiannopoulos: Donald Trump - best hope to smash political correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fely6gd2Q-k
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https://i.gyazo.com/c7ca668b56d1b2e55daa696da0b58b62.png
BOOM
djohn2oo8
04-02-2016, 06:04 AM
yeah, i agree with chinook on the outrage over trump's comments being misplaced.
for the record, i'm completely pro choice and think abortions should be legal, but if we are dealing with a hypothetical scenario where an abortion is illegally done, then the "mother" should absolutely have some form of penalty.
Actually, the doctor or whoever performs an illegal abortion should be punished or prosecuted. Not the mother.
spurraider21
04-02-2016, 12:55 PM
Actually, the doctor or whoever performs an illegal abortion should be punished or prosecuted. Not the mother.
i'm not in disagreement about the doctor getting punished, too
boutons_deux
04-02-2016, 11:05 PM
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boutons_deux
04-02-2016, 11:26 PM
Trump Creates A Political Disaster By Sending Sarah Palin To Speak For Him In Wisconsin
Donald Trump sent Sarah Palin to speak for him at a Milwaukee County Republican gathering. The result was a total disaster.
http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/palin-wisconsin-701x407.jpg
Palin opened with a joke that bombed, and her schtick was met with stone cold silence.
The problem was obvious. Palin was her usual unhinged and disjointed self. She later attacked immigrants with the bizarre claim of immigrants receiving gift baskets, “What the heck are you thinking, candidates? What the heck are you thinking when you’re actually asking for more immigrants — even illegal immigrants, welcoming them in.
Even inducing and seducing them with gift baskets. Come on over the border and here’s a gift basket of teddy bears and soccer balls.
What are you thinking? It’s just inviting more.”Roughly five minutes into her speech, it was clear that the audience was praying for this nightmare to end:
Sarah Palin continued to ramble on and on and on. Palin unintentionally provoked laughter from the crowd by claiming that Donald Trump talks rationally about foreign policy, “Only Trump talks rationally, about listening to top brass as president, and hiring the best of the best to work alongside our commander-in-chief.”
Palin tried to bash the media by claiming that they let their chosen ones get away without answering questions while completely ignoring the fact that nobody has gotten a bigger free pass from the press than Donald Trump.
It was clear to see that Palin either wasn’t following her speech transcript, or she never had one. Palin had some notes, and like Trump, she appeared to wing it.Milwaukee Republicans are the heart and soul of Wisconsin’s never Trump movement, but the Trump campaign managed to make the situation even worse by sending Sarah Palin to speak.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/02/trump-creates-political-disaster-sending-sarah-palin-speak-wisconsin.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
:lol Trump and Trump supporters. :lol
boutons_deux
04-03-2016, 06:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Ivji-ph4A
RD2191
04-03-2016, 08:51 AM
Trump Creates A Political Disaster By Sending Sarah Palin To Speak For Him In Wisconsin
Donald Trump sent Sarah Palin to speak for him at a Milwaukee County Republican gathering. The result was a total disaster.
http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/palin-wisconsin-701x407.jpg
Palin opened with a joke that bombed, and her schtick was met with stone cold silence.
The problem was obvious. Palin was her usual unhinged and disjointed self. She later attacked immigrants with the bizarre claim of immigrants receiving gift baskets, “What the heck are you thinking, candidates? What the heck are you thinking when you’re actually asking for more immigrants — even illegal immigrants, welcoming them in.
Even inducing and seducing them with gift baskets. Come on over the border and here’s a gift basket of teddy bears and soccer balls.
What are you thinking? It’s just inviting more.”Roughly five minutes into her speech, it was clear that the audience was praying for this nightmare to end:
Sarah Palin continued to ramble on and on and on. Palin unintentionally provoked laughter from the crowd by claiming that Donald Trump talks rationally about foreign policy, “Only Trump talks rationally, about listening to top brass as president, and hiring the best of the best to work alongside our commander-in-chief.”
Palin tried to bash the media by claiming that they let their chosen ones get away without answering questions while completely ignoring the fact that nobody has gotten a bigger free pass from the press than Donald Trump.
It was clear to see that Palin either wasn’t following her speech transcript, or she never had one. Palin had some notes, and like Trump, she appeared to wing it.Milwaukee Republicans are the heart and soul of Wisconsin’s never Trump movement, but the Trump campaign managed to make the situation even worse by sending Sarah Palin to speak.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/02/trump-creates-political-disaster-sending-sarah-palin-speak-wisconsin.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
:lol Trump and Trump supporters. :lol
Wow
If anyone cares to hear the bitch speak..
http://youtu.be/KgjTUY-YRA4
I may just watch for comedic relief.
nahhhh
If anyone cares to hear the bitch speak..
http://youtu.be/KgjTUY-YRA4
I may just watch for comedic relief.
nahhhh
Trump Condom:
http://cdn.konbini.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/9/files/2016/03/trump-condoms-im-huuuuge-condom-foil1-300x300.jpg
boutons_deux
04-03-2016, 12:49 PM
http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ivanka-trump.jpg
Ivana Trump Tries to Fix The Donald’s Problems with Women and Only Makes It Worse
Ivana Trump tried to fix Donald Trump's problems with women and immigrants and only made it worse.
She even included a bit about how she loves Mexicans because someone has to clean up after us.
No, really.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/03/ivana-trump-reagan-somebody-told-donald-trump-run-president.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
boutons_deux
04-03-2016, 01:31 PM
Trump: Decision to Consider Women Humans Should Be Left to States (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/decision-to-consider-women-humans-should-be-left-to-states)
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report))—Attempting to repair some of the fallout from his recent remarks about women, Donald Trump said on Sunday that the decision of whether women should be considered humans should be left to the states.
“I wouldn’t want to tell Texas whether women are humans, for example,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “They obviously have some very strong opinions about that.”
When asked point-blank whether he considered women humans, the billionaire responded, “It should be a case-by-case thing.”
Trump also blasted the media for applying what he called a “double standard” to his remarks about women. “I can call a woman a pig and it’s totally taken out of context,” he said.
Trump’s latest comments drew a strong rebuke from his chief rival, Senator Ted Cruz, on the campaign trail in Wisconsin.
“Once again, Donald has utterly failed to find a subtle way to express the Republican Party’s anti-woman views,” he said.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report)
CosmicCowboy
04-03-2016, 05:09 PM
Trump self destructing. Kind of embarrassing to watch.
Winehole23
04-03-2016, 05:34 PM
he's like a mad dog chasing a car. it's increasingly clear Trump hasn't thought through the possibility -- and the due responsibilities -- of succeeding.
Winehole23
04-03-2016, 05:36 PM
fortunately, his unpopularity with women will sink him in the general election, should he be the GOP nominee.
Galileo
04-03-2016, 05:44 PM
I stand with Trump!
Trump: Decision to Consider Women Humans Should Be Left to States (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/decision-to-consider-women-humans-should-be-left-to-states)
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report))—Attempting to repair some of the fallout from his recent remarks about women, Donald Trump said on Sunday that the decision of whether women should be considered humans should be left to the states.
“I wouldn’t want to tell Texas whether women are humans, for example,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “They obviously have some very strong opinions about that.”
When asked point-blank whether he considered women humans, the billionaire responded, “It should be a case-by-case thing.”
Trump also blasted the media for applying what he called a “double standard” to his remarks about women. “I can call a woman a pig and it’s totally taken out of context,” he said.
Trump’s latest comments drew a strong rebuke from his chief rival, Senator Ted Cruz, on the campaign trail in Wisconsin.
“Once again, Donald has utterly failed to find a subtle way to express the Republican Party’s anti-woman views,” he said.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report)
This is a fake story. Why did you post it?
spurraider21
04-03-2016, 07:40 PM
Trump: Decision to Consider Women Humans Should Be Left to States (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/decision-to-consider-women-humans-should-be-left-to-states)
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report))—Attempting to repair some of the fallout from his recent remarks about women, Donald Trump said on Sunday that the decision of whether women should be considered humans should be left to the states.
“I wouldn’t want to tell Texas whether women are humans, for example,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “They obviously have some very strong opinions about that.”
When asked point-blank whether he considered women humans, the billionaire responded, “It should be a case-by-case thing.”
Trump also blasted the media for applying what he called a “double standard” to his remarks about women. “I can call a woman a pig and it’s totally taken out of context,” he said.
Trump’s latest comments drew a strong rebuke from his chief rival, Senator Ted Cruz, on the campaign trail in Wisconsin.
“Once again, Donald has utterly failed to find a subtle way to express the Republican Party’s anti-woman views,” he said.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report)
lol humor, lol editing url color
lol humor, lol editing url color
:lol
boutons_deux
04-03-2016, 10:43 PM
From the "moderate adult" in the Repug Klown Kar
Kasich Would Let States Decide Whether To Punish Women For Abortion
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2016/04/03/3765989/john-kasich-abortion/
pgardn
04-03-2016, 10:51 PM
This is a fake story. Why did you post it?
Boots thinks the author is funny.
Trump is such a disaster it's not far fetched for him to try and explain away if women really should be considered humans. The guy has gotten away with so much it's becoming difficult to craft humor from his antics. Trump has made so many outrageous claims it's actually becoming impossible to make fun of him. Is there a word for this phenomena? There should be.
DAF86
04-04-2016, 01:04 AM
I can't believe this character, taken from a bad SNL skit, is even in this position. Shame on you guys. :lmao
Mitch
04-04-2016, 03:24 PM
He actually pinned this shit :lol
717003103871115267
Splits
04-04-2016, 04:24 PM
He actually pinned this shit :lol
717003103871115267
bend over if you want your shit pinned.
Whatd it say?
DarrinS
04-04-2016, 06:41 PM
Damn, Ivana aged pretty badly.
Mitch
04-04-2016, 07:08 PM
bend over if you want your shit pinned.
Whatd it say?
He pinned a pro-trump video made by a fan using mass effect sound. You can probably find it somewhere, it was called trump effect
These attacks against Trump where they say he mistreats women are just wrong. He cherishes women, and it's not right for these lies to be thrown around. What evidence is there? Give me a break.
Pelicans78
04-04-2016, 09:53 PM
These attacks against Trump where they say he mistreats women are just wrong. He cherishes women, and it's not right for these lies to be thrown around. What evidence is there? Give me a break.
That's true. Even when he's married, he always cherishes woman.
That's true. Even when he's married, he always cherishes woman.
Thank you for supporting my case.
spurraider21
04-04-2016, 11:20 PM
These attacks against Trump where they say he mistreats women are just wrong. He cherishes women, and it's not right for these lies to be thrown around. What evidence is there? Give me a break.
lol lies
lol lies
Give me a break.
spurraider21
04-04-2016, 11:30 PM
Give me a break.
why, because it happens to be inconvenient for the candidate you support?
he berates women all the time, but then follows it up with a backhanded compliment by commenting on how attractive they are, reducing them to their appearance. happens all the time, even did it on fuckin stage to carly fiorina
why, because it happens to be inconvenient for the candidate you support?
he berates women all the time, but then follows it up with a backhanded compliment by commenting on how attractive they are, reducing them to their appearance. happens all the time, even did it on fuckin stage to carly fiorina
Carly is really a nasty person. I don't like to say that about anyone but she gets very nasty. Melania, on the other hand, is a smart woman and I like that she is more than looks. She would make a great first lady.
spurraider21
04-04-2016, 11:45 PM
Carly is really a nasty person. I don't like to say that about anyone but she gets very nasty. Melania, on the other hand, is a smart woman and I like that she is more than looks. She would make a great first lady.
wow. that literally has nothing to do with anything i said :lol
that was a trump-esque dodge. i'm surprised you didnt brush it off by talking about political correctness then change the topic about how we have so many problems, trade with china, etc
pgardn
04-04-2016, 11:47 PM
Carly is really a nasty person. I don't like to say that about anyone but she gets very nasty. Melania, on the other hand, is a smart woman and I like that she is more than looks. She would make a great first lady.
So it's cool to suggest a woman is on her period when the questions get too tough?
He cherishes women...
Jesus...
wow. that literally has nothing to do with anything i said :lol
that was a trump-esque dodge. i'm surprised you didnt brush it off by talking about political correctness then change the topic about how we have so many problems, trade with china, etc
No, it has something to do with what you said. Point is he's a counter-puncher. He counter-punches women... No wait, that sounds bad, but he does not discriminate when defending himself. If you attack, he attacks back and the people who he supposedly "berates" weren't just totally innocent... so let's drop this silly narrative that he doesn't respect woman and is just looking to harass them.
So it's cool to suggest a woman is on her period when the questions get too tough?
He cherishes women...
Jesus...
What? You're a deviant for even thinking that's what he meant! Sick!
spurraider21
04-04-2016, 11:55 PM
No, it has something to do with what you said. Point is he's a counter-puncher. He counter-punches women... No wait, that sounds bad, but he does not discriminate when defending himself. If you attack, he attacks back and the people who he supposedly "berates" weren't just totally innocent... so let's drop this silly narrative that he doesn't respect woman and is just looking to harass them.
What? You're a deviant for even thinking that's what he meant! Sick!
what about when he told a female reporter that she "only has her job because she's beautiful"
what about when he told a woman that "she must have looked good on her knees"
pgardn
04-04-2016, 11:57 PM
No, it has something to do with what you said. Point is he's a counter-puncher. He counter-punches women... No wait, that sounds bad, but he does not discriminate when defending himself. If you attack, he attacks back and the people who he supposedly "berates" weren't just totally innocent... so let's drop this silly narrative that he doesn't respect woman and is just looking to harass them.
What? You're a deviant for even thinking that's what he meant! Sick!
You are an idiot if you did not.
I'm not familiar with those instances. I need context.
Your an idiot if you did not.
You're the idiot. Clearly.
NO ONE is stupid enough to say that. And to be honest, I didn't think that when I first heard it. If you did, that's on you and the other sickoes.
DMX trollin fools left and right. :lol
pgardn
04-05-2016, 12:06 AM
DMX trollin fools left and right. :lol
Thats illegal at this hour.
And he Fkn knows this.
Play by the rules.
Thats illegal at this hour.
And he Fkn knows this.
Play by the rules.
DMX is a liberal at heart.
boutons_deux
04-05-2016, 07:41 AM
And yet, some in Priebus’ party can’t seem to let go of their dream. Politico reported (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/paul-ryan-republican-nominee-convention-221522) this morning there are still “top” Republican insiders talking up the idea of nominating House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.).
On the eve of the Wisconsin primaries, top Republicans are becoming increasingly vocal about their long-held belief that Speaker Paul Ryan will wind up as the nominee, perhaps on the fourth ballot at a chaotic Cleveland convention.
One of the nation’s best-wired Republicans, with an enviable prediction record for this cycle, sees a 60 percent chance of a convention deadlock and a 90 percent chance that delegates turn to Ryan – ergo, a 54 percent chance that Ryan, who’ll start the third week of July as chairman of the Republican National Convention, will end it as the nominee.
The piece, from Politico’s Mike Allen, added that the Wisconsin congressman is “more calculating and ambitious than he lets on.” It added that Ryan “is running the same playbook he did to become speaker: saying he doesn’t want it, that it won’t happen. In both cases, the maximum leverage is to not want it – and to be begged to do it.”
The Speaker happens to be in Israel right now, but he called into Hugh Hewitt’s conservative radio show this morning to once again he rejects the speculation. “I think you need to run for president in order to be president,” Ryan said (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/paul-ryan-gop-nomination-2016-221520). “I’m not running for president, so, period. End of story.”
Except, it’s probably not the end of the story.
The Republicans and pundits keeping these embers burning have been quick to note, accurately, that Paul Ryan made similar comments after John Boehner’s retirement, saying he wouldn’t be a candidate for Speaker. The Wisconsin Republican, we now know, can be talked into accepting great power when it’s offered to him on a platter – which means the speculation will continue, probably until the convention itself.
But so long as the chatter continues, let’s keep a few relevant details in mind.
The first is the simple fact that if Republicans hold 50+ nominating contests over a six-month period, and then nominate someone who did not run for president – and has said repeatedly that he does not want to be president – the prospect of party-wide chaos shouldn’t be dismissed too quickly.
Second, the assumption that Paul Ryan represents electoral magic for the GOP continues to be wrong. The Speaker was on the Republican ticket four years ago – when he failed to win his home state – and recent polling suggests the American mainstream doesn’t share (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/romney-ryan-wont-come-the-republicans-rescue) the Beltway’s affection for the GOP House leader.
Finally, let’s say for the sake of conversation that all of the obvious hurdles simply disappear.
Let’s imagine convention delegates were willing to embrace Ryan without controversy; the Speaker decided he wouldn’t mind being president after all;
the party wouldn’t fracture; and polls turned in his favor.
Even then, the idea would be dubious on the merits:
The Republican Party would find itself in late July with a presidential nominee who has no campaign infrastructure, no platform, no stump speech, no staff, and no money.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/some-republicans-arent-ready-give-paul-ryan-dream?cid=sm_fb_maddow
Repugs are so fucked, no matter which extremist scumbag they nominate.
InRareForm
04-06-2016, 12:57 AM
Bovada removed the odds on trump to win repub.
oddschecker has a little over even money for trump to win repub.
cruz down to 2 to 1
hater
04-06-2016, 06:16 AM
The next few weeks the US populace will take one good long look at Ted Cruz and come running back to Trump :lol book this and Ill bump in a few weeks
hater
04-06-2016, 06:17 AM
Classic case of we fucked up but we should stick to the guy not possessed by Satan :lol
I love how Cruz revels in his victory as if the people who voted for him actually like him.
boutons_deux
04-06-2016, 02:33 PM
here's the kind of authoritarian, violent bully attracted to Trump
"So the fix is in. If Trump does not run the table on the rest of the primaries and the caucuses, we’re looking at a very, very narrow path in which the kingmakers go all out to cheat, to steal, and to snatch this nomination from the candidate who is overwhelmingly selected by the voters, which is why I have urged Trump supporters:
come to Cleveland.
March on Cleveland. Join us in the Forest City.
We’re going to have protests, demonstrations. We will disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved in the steal.
If you’re from Pennsylvania, we’ll tell you who the culprits are.
We urge you to visit their hotel and find them.
You have a right to discuss this if you voted in the Pennsylvania primary, for example, and your votes are being disallowed."
http://wonkette.com/600397/trump-pal-roger-stone-promises-anti-trump-rnc-delegates-room-service-with-fists
"right to discuss" :lol
boutons_deux
04-06-2016, 03:55 PM
Orange news
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jenlewis/this-is-what-donald-trump-would-look-like-without-his-fake-t#.klPNv67ao
spurraider21
04-06-2016, 04:14 PM
news?
boutons_deux
04-06-2016, 04:58 PM
Ann Coulter: Author Says Donald Trump Will Protect US From 'Latin American Rape Culture'
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/275289-ann-coulter-trump-will-protect-women-from-latin-american-rape-culture
:lol yep, Donny T has great respect for women :lol
spurraider21
04-06-2016, 05:20 PM
:lmao paying attention to ann coulter
MultiTroll
04-06-2016, 05:24 PM
Nicely done SNL :lol
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/275415-snl-mocks-gop-woes-with-the-establishment-shuffle
boutons_deux
04-06-2016, 09:54 PM
The Donald Trump Remark That Left Trevor Noah Speechlesshttp://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/DT-1994-668x501.png
http://www.nationalmemo.com/endorse-this-the-donald-trump-remark-that-left-trevor-noah-speechless/
Inherited wealth, privilege are great guarantors of excellent character.
boutons_deux
04-07-2016, 07:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze4DQAzlzRA
It'd be nice if all of us could ask daddy for a $1,000,000 loan.
boutons_deux
04-07-2016, 07:42 AM
It'd be nice if all of us could ask daddy for a $1,000,000 loan.
did Donny pay back the "loan". Or was it "forgiven", making it unearned, untaxed income.
I love how Cruz revels in his victory as if the people who voted for him actually like him.
They like him more than Kasich? They had other choices.
did Donny pay back the "loan". Or was it "forgiven", making it unearned, untaxed income.
According to the Donald, he paid it back with interest. I don't doubt that he did, but still, it must be nice saying hey dad, can I get a cool mill? Thanks homie
Nbadan
04-07-2016, 05:06 PM
Daddy Trump was worth an estimated $200 million when he passed....The Donald inherited at least a quarter of that...
Daddy Trump was worth an estimated $200 million when he passed....The Donald inherited at least a quarter of that...
Are you forgetting estate taxes?
pgardn
04-07-2016, 09:42 PM
Are you forgetting estate taxes?
Yeah.
Trump only got like 100,000.
Anyone here get 100,000 to start?
boutons_deux
04-08-2016, 10:08 AM
Why Trump Supporters Are Angry — and Loyal
Ted Cruz’s big win in Wisconsin Tuesday was an important moment for the Never Trump forces that hope to keep Donald Trump from amassing the delegates he needs to win the Republican nomination outright. But Mr. Cruz’s supporters remain seriously frustrated anyway, to the point where they have begun denigrating and demonizing Mr. Trump’s supporters, a tactic that can do neither Mr. Cruz nor his party any good.
But the results showed that many supporters in Mr. Trump’s most steadfast constituency, non-college-educated whites, stuck by him. Exit polls show that Mr. Cruz won 48 percent of this group, but more than one-third of them still voted for Mr. Trump. This confounding fealty is maddening to some Never Trumpers (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/02/opinion/why-should-never-trump-mean-ted-cruz.html), who have turned their anger on the people who have stayed loyal to Mr. Trump.
Yet who, really, has let these people down? For several election cycles — most prominently Pat Buchanan’s presidential bid in 1996 — Republican politicians have
played on class- and
race-based resentment to win elections.
In loyalty to wealthier voters, they, including the extreme Mr. Cruz,
have cut federal safety-net programs and
done little to address problems of job training,
wage stagnation and
drug addiction (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/25/opinion/drug-deaths-reach-white-america.html) that affect the lower middle class, both minority and white.
White working-class Republicans, reeling from the recession and declining as a proportion of the population, entered this election year driven by that betrayal.
Mr. Trump divined their fear and rage. He was there to shout the despicable things other Republicans had merely insinuated, and rewrote the rules of the blame game they invented. He played to the party’s angriest members, and offered a con man’s hope to its most desperate.
a correspondent for National Review, which has endorsed Mr. Cruz, wrote last month that it is “immoral” and “a lie” to say “that the white working class that finds itself attracted to Trump has been victimized by outside forces. It hasn’t.” Mr. Williamson wrote that these voters have no one to blame for their distress but themselves, and certainly not the Republican establishment. ( :lol NR, lying hard-core conservatives, as always )
Wisconsin suggested that Republicans have begun to understand that Mr. Trump is playing supporters like Mr. Moss for suckers. The pro-Cruz forces ought to refrain from piling on. As Mr. Trump would say, they started this.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/07/opinion/blaming-the-white-victim-class.html?_r=0
boutons_deux
04-09-2016, 06:13 AM
POLITICS (http://occupydemocrats.com/category/politics/)Just In: Trump Is Now Facing Criminal Charges For Bribing Carson For Endorsement
The American Democracy Legal Fund has filed a criminal complaint to the Department of Justice (http://americandemocracy.org/adlf-files-criminal-complaint-against-donald-trump/) over Donald Trump’s alleged promise of a cabinet position to Ben Carson in exchange for his endorsement, which is of course illegal.
Pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 599, “[w]hoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”
Dr. Carson’s comments strongly suggest that Mr. Trump promised him an administration position in return for his endorsement. In his interview, Dr. Carson stated that he would “certainly” have an advisory capacity within a potential Trump administration.
When asked directly whether this role was discussed during their endorsement meeting, Dr. Carson responded, “Yes.” Dr. Carson’s assured answers lead to the reasonable conclusion that Mr. Trump promised Dr. Carson an administration post in order to secure his endorsement in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 599.
While this is pretty far down on the list of unethical, immoral, or simply reprehensible things that Trump has said or done, it might be the closest chance we might have to take him out of the running for good.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/04/01/just-trump-now-facing-criminal-charges-bribing-carson-endorsement/
boutons_deux
04-09-2016, 06:26 AM
The Repug convention will be a RIOT
A contested convention where the Repug mucky mucks draft Bishop Gekko (he registered with FEC) and Paul "asterisked Ayn Rand budget" Ryan?
Paul Ryan stokes presidential chatter with campaign-style video
Here’s a simple rule: if you don’t want people to think you’re running for president, don’t do things that presidential candidates do.
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), for example, is aware of the fact that some Republicans (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/paul-ryan-republican-nominee-convention-221522) – andsome GOP mega-donors (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/charles-koch-paul-ryan-nomination_us_57029099e4b083f5c6082b95) – much prefer him to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz for the party’s 2016 ticket. Ryan is also aware of the fact that those same supporters may try to exploit a contested Republican convention to nominate someone who didn’t actually seek the office.
In response to this chatter, the House Speaker is only too pleased to tell reporters (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/some-republicans-arent-ready-give-paul-ryan-dream), “I’m not running for president.” And yet, if the Wisconsin congressman wants to quash the speculation about his ambitions, Ryan should probably stop taking the kind of steps a prospective candidate might take. TPM reported (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ryan-video-definitely-not-a-campaign-ad)this morning that the Republican leader has released a new “swelling, optimistic video laying out his policy plans.”
In the video, dubbed “Politics These Days,” Ryan bemoans the polarized state of American politics.
“What really bothers me the most about politics these days is this notion of identity politics: that we’re going to win an election by dividing people, rather than inspiring people,” Ryan says in a speech delivered to an audience of House interns. […] “So let’s have a battle of ideas. Let’s have a contest of whose ideas are better and why our ideas are better,” he concludes, as inspirational music soars.
Videos like these (https://twitter.com/SpeakerRyan/status/718400263296430081) aren’t uncommon – but they tend to be released by national figures who have their eyes on the Oval Office.
Maybe Paul Ryan is trying to create a distinct platform for House Republicans in order to keep them separate from the party’s presidential ticket. Maybe the Speaker, who’s spent years talking about the need for the GOP majority on the Hill to come up with some kind of governing agenda, is taking the next step towards an elusive goal.
Or maybe the nation’s highest ranking Republican officeholder is subtly trying to stoke the 2016 fires so they don’t go out.
Ryan is many things, but blind to political circumstances isn’t one of them. I’ve long been skeptical about his White House plans, but for him to launch a p.r. push like this, against the backdrop of Beltway chatter about a presidential nomination, is making me re-think those assumptions.
Yes, the Speaker has said he’s not running, but as regular readers know, Ryan said the same thing about his current job – right before he accepted it.
If the Wisconsin lawmaker wants to end the scuttlebutt, he can do so with relative ease.
First, Ryan can make a Shermanesque statement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shermanesque_statement) about his 2016 plans.
Second, he can stop doing the kinds of things presidential hopefuls do.
Until then, the chatter will continue, which may very well be exactly what the Speaker wants.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/world-watches-trumps-rise-fear-trepidation?cid=sm_fb_maddow
boutons_deux
04-09-2016, 06:40 AM
Exclusive: Blocking Trump could hurt Republicans in election
A third of Republican voters who support Donald Trump could turn their backs on their party in November's presidential election if he is denied the nomination in a contested convention, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.
The results are bad news for Trump's rivals as well as party elites opposed to the real estate billionaire, suggesting that an alternative Republican nominee for the Nov. 8 presidential race would have a tougher road against the Democrats.
"If it’s a close election, this is devastating news" for the Republicans, said Donald Green, an expert on election turnout at Columbia University.
The Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted March 30 to April 8 asked Trump’s Republican supporters two questions: if Trump wins the most delegates in the primaries but loses the nomination, what would they do on Election Day, and how would it impact their relationship with the Republican Party?
Sixty-six percent said they would vote for the candidate who eventually wins the nomination,
while the remaining third were split between a number of alternatives such as
not voting,
supporting a third-party candidate, and
switching parties and voting for the Democratic nominee.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-republicans-poll-idUSKCN0X60B3?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
:lol Repugs have so fucked themselves.
They SUCK intentionally at MISgoverning, and
they fail totally as the political party of All Politics, All The Time :lol
boutons_deux
04-09-2016, 07:29 AM
World watches Trump’s rise with fear, trepidation
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham tried to reassure foreign leaders that Donald Trump is nothing to worry about during a trip to the Middle East last week. “Everybody asked me about Trump in terms of policy changes. I said he is an outlier, don’t look at him,” Graham told reporters Thursday about his overseas trip.
The most serious concerns Graham said leaders from Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Egypt expressed raised were regarding Trump’s proposal to temporarily ban most Muslims from entering the United States.
At a White House briefing this week, a reporter asked President Obama whether Trump’s foreign-policy proposals are “already doing damage” to America’s reputation. “The answer … is yes,” Obama responded (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/04/05/remarks-president-economy-0). “I think that I’ve been very clear earlier that I am getting questions constantly from foreign leaders about some of the wackier suggestions that are being made.”
Last week, Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) returned from a trip abroad and said (http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/274925-dem-senator-netanyahu-worried-about-election-rhetoric) officials in Israel and Turkey specifically pressed him on the anti-Muslim rhetoric in the Republican presidential race.
All of this dovetails with reporting from a month ago about international “alarm (http://news.yahoo.com/foreign-diplomats-voicing-alarm-u-officials-trump-110913258.html)” over Trump from officials in Europe, the Middle East, Latin America, and Asia.
A senior NATO official, speaking before the Republican frontrunner talked publicly about abandoning the treaty organization, was quoted telling Reuters (http://news.yahoo.com/foreign-diplomats-voicing-alarm-u-officials-trump-110913258.html), “European diplomats are constantly asking about Trump’s rise with disbelief and, now, growing panic.”
As we talked about (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lindsey-graham-foreign-leaders-dumbfounded-trump-policies) at the time, there’s ample speculation about the message the United States would send to the world if Trump was elected president. But there’s probably not enough speculation about the damage the success of Trump’s campaign is already doing to the nation’s reputation.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/world-watches-trumps-rise-fear-trepidation?cid=sm_fb_maddow
Thanks, Repugs.
boutons_deux
04-09-2016, 10:18 AM
exploding Repugs! :lol
Donors trying to draft 'Mad Dog' Mattis for presidential run
http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/730x420-e7930c31c5f232d747710c6ee783fdcc.jpg
A group of wealthy donors is preparing to draft retired Marine Gen. James "Mad Dog" Mattis to run for president and taken down Donald Trump, according to reports.
Nearly a dozen donors are willing to throw their resources behind the former head of U.S. Central Command. The group has delivered six memos to Mattis outlining how he could win the race in the hope that it will encourage him to run, the Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/08/the-secret-movement-to-draft-general-james-mattis-for-president.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page) reported.
The game plan would be for Mattis to win enough states to keep Trump and Hillary Clinton from getting the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency. The House would then pick the president, and supporters believe lawmakers would support a former general widely seen as an American hero.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donors-trying-to-draft-mad-dog-mattis-for-presidential-run/article/2588042?custom_click=rss
Aztecfan03
04-09-2016, 03:25 PM
This is a fake story. Why did you post it?
He posts fake stories allthe time.
boutons_deux
04-09-2016, 03:32 PM
He posts fake stories allthe time.
You Lie. Not fake
Aztecfan03
04-10-2016, 12:44 AM
You Lie. Not fake
stop projecting
boutons_deux
04-11-2016, 11:03 PM
Bill O’Reilly questioned Donald Trump’s ability to provide jobs in African-American communities during an interview on Monday by painting black Americans as being ill-equipped for the labor force.
“How are you going to get jobs for them?” O’Reilly asked. “Many of them are ill-educated and have tattoos on their foreheads, and
I hate to be generalized about it but it’s true. :lol :lol
If you look at all the educational statistics, how are you going to give jobs to people who aren’t qualified for jobs?”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/oreilly-asks-trump-how-can-you-help-blacks-get-jobs-when-they-have-tattoos-on-their-foreheads/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
spurraider21
04-11-2016, 11:39 PM
POLITICS (http://occupydemocrats.com/category/politics/)Just In: Trump Is Now Facing Criminal Charges For Bribing Carson For Endorsement
The American Democracy Legal Fund has filed a criminal complaint to the Department of Justice (http://americandemocracy.org/adlf-files-criminal-complaint-against-donald-trump/) over Donald Trump’s alleged promise of a cabinet position to Ben Carson in exchange for his endorsement, which is of course illegal.
Pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 599, “[w]hoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”
Dr. Carson’s comments strongly suggest that Mr. Trump promised him an administration position in return for his endorsement. In his interview, Dr. Carson stated that he would “certainly” have an advisory capacity within a potential Trump administration.
When asked directly whether this role was discussed during their endorsement meeting, Dr. Carson responded, “Yes.” Dr. Carson’s assured answers lead to the reasonable conclusion that Mr. Trump promised Dr. Carson an administration post in order to secure his endorsement in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 599.
While this is pretty far down on the list of unethical, immoral, or simply reprehensible things that Trump has said or done, it might be the closest chance we might have to take him out of the running for good.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/04/01/just-trump-now-facing-criminal-charges-bribing-carson-endorsement/
:lmao "facing criminal charges"
apalisoc_9
04-12-2016, 10:54 AM
I dont know why people even bother with prsidential race tbh. I used to myself but then I realized every president has had a significantly different stance in terms of their actions once they get elected as president.
For all we know, trump is probably just pushing some hot buttons and the next thing you know he is Bffs with middle eastern countries and businessmen. Etc.
Mitch
04-14-2016, 04:23 PM
Imagine this man as your president
516382177798680576
Imagine this man as your president
516382177798680576
:wow
This legit or photoshop? If true then I don't know how he gets out of this one. :lol
Mitch
04-14-2016, 05:43 PM
:wow
This legit or photoshop? If true then I don't know how he gets out of this one. :lol
It's an old tweet, but it's legit - you can click on it.
He does NOT like criticism.
MultiTroll
04-14-2016, 08:08 PM
:wow
This legit or photoshop? If true then I don't know how he gets out of this one. :lol
I'm not a Trumper but I will tell you how he "gets out of it".
US citizens have long ago grown tired of phony, canned pc politicians.
Pelicans78
04-14-2016, 10:55 PM
He does NOT like criticism.
He can't handle criticism. Big flaw of his.
Trump and Bernie - common ground
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-and-sanders-find-common-ground-despite-deep-dislike-for-each-other/2016/04/16/8d33c9fe-0354-11e6-9203-7b8670959b88_story.html
boutons_deux
04-17-2016, 07:42 AM
Trump threatens a ‘rough time’ at the Republican National Convention if he isn’t given the nomination
Trump is angry over the likelihood of a brokered convention (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/what-is-a-contested-convention-and-what-would-one-mean-for-the-gop/), which means that he could be denied the nomination even if he wins the majority of votes.
“The system is rigged,” Trump said in Syracuse on Saturday, according to KCCI. “They gotta do something about it. The Republican National Committee better get going because I’ll tell you what, you’re gonna have a rough time at that convention in July … because people want to vote and the people wanna be represented properly.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/trump-threatens-a-rough-time-at-the-republican-national-convention-if-he-isnt-given-the-nomination/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
:lol Donny T is such a naive, privileged, entitled fool, thinking politics was gonna be a cakewalk, appealing to racists, xenophobes, dickless, overweight white male losers.
Dude, there could be riots. We just don't know -- we don't know. he is doing the responsible thing by warning them of what could happen. It would irresponsible for him not to -- they need to be prepared for the consequences of not nominating him.
Mitch
04-18-2016, 01:13 AM
Is botoxdeuce the worst poster around here, tbh? He's like cosmoron, but more copy paste.
Is botoxdeuce the worst poster around here, tbh? He's like cosmoron, but more copy paste.
He suffers from identity disorder. You don't know which bouton you'll get from day to day.
Mitch
04-18-2016, 02:45 AM
He suffers from identity disorder. You don't know which bouton you'll get from day to day.
Either one is a retard who posts salon articles, it seems :lol
Splits
04-18-2016, 02:43 PM
vPRfP_TEQ-g
CosmicCowboy
04-18-2016, 03:13 PM
Is botoxdeuce the worst poster around here, tbh? He's like cosmoron, but more copy paste.
Bookaki is the forums idiot mascot. He is the classic stereotype mindless liberal.
boutons_deux
04-18-2016, 05:21 PM
How the #NeverTrump movement could drive the GOP over a cliff
Ir'’s impossible to overstate the disaster anti-Trump Republicans are inviting as they maneuver to deprive their party’s front-runner of the nomination.
The #NeverTrump coalition believes it can select someone other than Donald Trump because the rules say they can. It’s a profound delusion, and one that could lead to unprecedented chaos in Cleveland.
They appear to be oblivious about the white-hot fury against the “establishment” that led to Trump and Ted Cruz dominating the primaries in the first place.
(Those who think they can screw over both Trump and the equally loathsome Cruz and give the nomination to someone like House Speaker Paul Ryan are especially disconnected from reality.)
The GOP built that fury by promising their voters that if they gave Republicans control of Congress, they’d undo Barack Obama’s agenda despite the fact that doing so would require a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and the president’s signature, and now they’re blinded to the conservative backlash that has resulted from their inability to deliver.
Roger Stone, a longtime Trump ally and infamous (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster) “dirty trickster” told Politico (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/roger-stone-donald-trump-delegates-convention-hotel-221586) that he would release the names and hotel rooms of disloyal delegates to the mob. “We’re going to have protests, demonstrations,” he promised. That may be campaign bluster, but Stone was the driving force behind the “Brooks Brothers Riot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot)” during the 2000 Florida recount – he’s got a track-record.
And Sarah Burris reported (https://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/donald-trumps-hit-squad-spew-death-threats-at-colorado-gop-chair-and-indiana-delegates/) that Republican delegates from Indiana and Colorado’s GOP chair have already received a slew of death threats.
Trump’s claim that the party is cheating him will be a compelling one.
62 percent of Republican primary voters said that the candidate with the most votes should be the nominee, and 71 percent said it would be “unacceptable” to give the nod to someone, like Paul Ryan, who hadn’t even competed.
Given that Trump has the support of 45 percent of GOP voters, that means a lot of people who aren’t backing him are nonetheless receptive to his gripes about the “establishment” rigging the process.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/how-the-nevertrump-movement-could-drive-the-gop-over-a-cliff/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
You astroturf patriots, gun fellators, bubbas, rednecks, shitkickers, low-wage, low-info rightwingnuts have voted you and your beloved Repug party into a shitstorm.
Fucking hilarious, all this shitstorm to nominate a guaranteed loser. :lol
boutons_deux
04-19-2016, 10:23 AM
Big Top Trump: His yearning for “showbiz” quality at RNC hilariously illustrates how Donald Trump has turned the party into a circus
Trump has proven yet again that as an entertainer with a flair for bullshit, he has no equal
Donald Trump gave an interview (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/while-the-gop-worries-about-convention-chaos-trump-pushes-for-showbiz-feel/2016/04/17/482cc914-0322-11e6-9d36-33d198ea26c5_story.html?wpmm=1&wpisrc=nl_daily202) to The Washington Post over the weekend that had buried within it a nugget that probably sent shivers down whatever remains of the spines of that shrinking circle of Republican officials and insiders known as the Establishment.
Donald Trump…asserted in an interview that he should have at least partial control over programming, stagecraft and other issues [at this summer’s convention] by virtue of his front-runner status — even if he does not have the delegates to secure the nomination beforehand.
Trump blasted the GOP’s last convention, in Tampa four years ago, as “the single most boring convention I’ve ever seen.”
The billionaire real estate mogul and reality-television star said it was imperative that this year’s gathering have a “showbiz” quality[.]
One wonders what a Trump-produced GOP convention would entail.
A keynote speech by former “The Apprentice” contestant Gary Busey?
Delegates mandated to wear souvenir Trump wigs on the convention floor?
A swimsuit competition for all 17 candidates who ran in the primaries?
Trump has also allegedly been turning up his nose at the choice of location for the convention, noting that Cleveland is a “heavily Democratic city” that could attract many leftist protestors. Which is funny because a GOP convention is likely to attract leftist protesters anywhere.
You could hold it in Superman’s Fortress of Solitude, and leftists will be outside, probably in a “free-speech pen,” demonstrating against the Republicans and their revanchist agenda.
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/19/big_top_trump_his_yearning_for_showbiz_quality_at_ rnc_hilariously_illustrates_how_donald_trump_has_t urned_the_party_into_a_circus/
Privileged autocrat Donny T already dictating the convention show business agenda and wanting to move the show biz from Cleveland.
boutons_deux
04-19-2016, 04:56 PM
http://media.salon.com/2016/04/gore-237x300.jpg
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/19/donald_trump_in_his_naked_um_glory_controversial_p ortrait_finds_a_home_at_las_vegas_museum/
People actually visit Salon?
Anyway... excellent victory for Mr. Trump tonight.
boutons_deux
04-20-2016, 08:38 AM
"Trump won 61 of the state’s 62 counties. Ironically, the only one he lost is the one he lives in."
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-clinton-new-york-state-mind?cid=sm_fb_maddow
hater
04-20-2016, 08:59 AM
Not surprised at this win at all. New Yorkers are usually smart human beings and way smarter than the typical idiot American :tu
Trump it is :tu
SnakeBoy
04-20-2016, 12:20 PM
"Trump won 61 of the state’s 62 counties. Ironically, the only one he lost is the one he lives in."
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-clinton-new-york-state-mind?cid=sm_fb_maddow
lol Boo is upset that Trump lost the Wall Street vote.
boutons_deux
04-20-2016, 07:17 PM
The Loophole That Could Cost Donald Trump the Nomination
Pennsylvania, which holds its primary next Tuesday, uses a nonbinding “loophole” primary — and that could cost Donald Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/donald-trump-on-the-issues.html?inline=nyt-per) the Republican nomination.
If the state adopted the delegate rules of any other primary, he would probably be an even-money favorite, or better, to amass the 1,237 delegates needed before the convention.
Instead, his chances may come down to the whims of 54 unpledged Pennsylvania delegates.
No other state leaves so many of its delegates unbound — allowed to vote for whomever they please at the convention.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/upshot/the-loophole-that-could-cost-donald-trump-the-nomination.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
But PA is urban blue and rural red
boutons_deux
04-21-2016, 06:11 AM
Donald Trump Is Right: The GOP Primary System Is Rigged
Just look at New York: (http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york) Kasich and Cruz won 40 percent of the vote but only 4 percent of the delegates. It's an outrage.
In the early contests, Trump's opponents won 68 percent of the vote but only 38 percent of the delegates.
On Super Tuesday they won 66 percent of the vote but only 57 percent of the delegates.
In early March they eked out a fair result: 63 percent of the vote and 66 percent of the delegates.
But on Super Tuesday II it was back to business as usual: they crushed Trump with 60 percent of the vote but won only 38 percent of the delegates.
I'm glad Trump is helping shine a media spotlight on this gross inequity—and he deserves special credit since he's the one benefiting from it.
It's a pretty selfless act.
Maybe someone will finally start paying attention to the way the Republican establishment is so obviously in the bag for Trump.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/04/donald-trump-right-gop-primary-system-rigged
boutons_deux
04-21-2016, 07:35 AM
For leading Republicans, #NeverTrump is often paired with "unless he wins the nomination" (http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11471650/trump-republicans-general-election)
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11471650/trump-republicans-general-election
boutons_deux
04-21-2016, 02:03 PM
Donny T lying again and again and again
Trump’s most popular position isn’t close to being true
GUTHRIE: Do you believe in raising taxes on the wealthy?
TRUMP: I do. I do – including myself. I do.
The audience, it’s worth noting, applauded the answer. The one policy most Republicans would never consider under any circumstances happens to be quite popular – a detail Trump seems to understand far better than his party does.
There’s just one nagging problem: what Trump said isn’t even close to being true.
Vox’s Ezra Klein had a good summary (http://www.vox.com/2016/3/8/11178872/donald-trump-policies) of the Republican candidate’s proposal last month.
The Republican field is full of breathtakingly large tax cuts. But even in the crazy context of this election, Trump’s tax plan stands out for its sheer irresponsibility.
The Tax Policy Center found that Trump’s tax cuts would cost about $9.5 trillion – and that’s before accounting for interest on all that new debt. The size of that number boggles the mind. Trump’s plan would, for instance, more than double the national debt. It would wipe out 45 percent of projected income tax revenue over the next decade. […]
But Trump’s tax plan isn’t just incredibly expensive; it’s also incredibly regressive.
The Tax Policy Center found that the average low-income taxpayer would get $128 from Trump’s plan, but the average top 1-percenter would get $275,257, and the average 0.1-percenter will get $1.3 million. It’s a huge tax cut for Trump and his wealthy friends.
In other words, when Trump earns applause for saying he supports raising taxes on the wealthy, he conveniently overlooks the fact that he’s running on a platform that calls for massive tax breaks for the wealthy.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-most-popular-position-isnt-close-being-true?cid=sm_fb_maddow
boutons_deux
04-21-2016, 07:54 PM
Watch: Trump Thugs Threaten Potential Armed Insurrection at Contested GOP Convention
Trump says there will be riots if he is denied the nomination, a warning his supporters echo in this video.
We went to the April 20 Donald Trump rally in Ocean City, Maryland, to ask Trump's supporters how they would react if he did not receive the nomination at a contested Republican National Convention.
Many told us they were prepared to wage an armed insurrection against the powers that be, or what one Trump fan called "a civil war."
Take a look.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trump-supporters-ocean-city-maryland-threaten-potential-armed-insurrection-contested
boutons_deux
04-25-2016, 03:06 PM
Trump as garden-variety Repug voter suppression advocate, pandering to the Repug establishment, while also pandering to his racist, xenophobic base.
Donald Trump Calls Virginia ‘Crooked’ For Allowing Former Felons To Vote
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/04/25/3772501/trump-felon-voting/
There's no way a republican should have any business winning this election but I think Hillary Clinton is such a bad candidate that there is at least a 2-3% chance she could blow it. Cruz has zero percent chance and Trump has alienated a lot of people but who knows? He is a great salesman and showman -- this would be his greatest performance yet if he could pull it off and win (assuming he is the nominee)!
boutons_deux
04-26-2016, 06:09 AM
He is a great salesman and showman
he's a liar, a con man.
If Repugs had a healthy base, if Repugs had done ANYTHING for its base in the last 40 years, Trump wouldn't even be in the running.
He's a protest candidate, blatantly running of the racism, xenophobia, gun-fellating, LBGT hate that Repugs have been dog-whistling for decades.
One idea why the Repug establishment is so pissed about Trump is that "he stole their hate" and make is blatantly explicit.
CosmicCowboy
04-26-2016, 06:32 AM
Watch: Trump Thugs Threaten Potential Armed Insurrection at Contested GOP Convention
Trump says there will be riots if he is denied the nomination, a warning his supporters echo in this video.
We went to the April 20 Donald Trump rally in Ocean City, Maryland, to ask Trump's supporters how they would react if he did not receive the nomination at a contested Republican National Convention.
Many told us they were prepared to wage an armed insurrection against the powers that be, or what one Trump fan called "a civil war."
Take a look.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trump-supporters-ocean-city-maryland-threaten-potential-armed-insurrection-contested
Alternet...:lmao
boutons_deux
04-26-2016, 06:53 AM
Alternet...:lmao
CosmicParasite :lol
boutons_deux
04-26-2016, 06:57 AM
Trump supporters acting like true Repug.
Black and Latina girls walk off soccer field after whites chant ‘Donald Trump, build that wall’
White high school soccer fans chanted, “Donald Trump, build that wall,” at a group of black and Latina players from an opposing team last week in Wisconsin.Some of the players from the Beloit Memorial girls varsity soccer team walked off the field during the game Thursday at Elkhorn Area High School after they were taunted with racial slurs and the pro-Trump chant, reported WISC-TV (http://m.channel3000.com/news/district-investigating-racist-chants-directed-at-beloit-soccer-players/38950592).
“They came off the field and weren’t able to finish the game because they were too upset and distraught over what happened to them,” said coach Brian Denu. “One of the girls was cradled in the arms of one of our assistant coaches for a good 15 to 20 minutes.”
Denu said the chant came from a small group of Elkhorn students,
Latino players were taunted by white fans (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/minority-basketball-players-targeted-with-racist-trump-chants-at-iowa-high-school/) chanting Trump’s name during an Iowa high school basketball game in February.
Trump’s name was also used as a racial epithet (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/us/midwest-trump-school-chants/) during a high school basketball game in Indiana, where students held up large printed photos of the Republican presidential candidate’s face and chanted his name at Latino players on an opposing team.
Those fans also chanted “build a wall,” “No comprende” and “speak English.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/black-and-latina-girls-walk-off-soccer-field-after-whites-chant-donald-trump-build-that-wall/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=im
boutons_deux
04-26-2016, 07:14 AM
Sam Bee on Trump and you Trump supporters, aka gullible rubes who have been suckered by Trump's "entertainment"
Samantha Bee crushes Kasich and Cruz for trying to invent a form of math that might help them win
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/samantha-bee-crushes-kasich-and-cruz-for-trying-to-invent-a-form-of-math-that-might-help-them-win/
boutons_deux
04-26-2016, 08:17 AM
Trump At War
http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/trump-at-war/media/images/opener/opener-1280.jpg
How the military is preparing for the possibility of a very different kind of Commander in Chief.
http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/trump-at-war/?ncid=newsltushpmg00000003
Sam Bee on Trump and you Trump supporters, aka gullible rubes who have been suckered by Trump's "entertainment"
Samantha Bee crushes Kasich and Cruz for trying to invent a form of math that might help them win
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/samantha-bee-crushes-kasich-and-cruz-for-trying-to-invent-a-form-of-math-that-might-help-them-win/
The "entertainment" aspect of his campaign gets him extra attention, but it's substance that is winning him the day in the GOP primary. Don't kid yourself.
boutons_deux
04-26-2016, 09:38 AM
The "entertainment" aspect of his campaign gets him extra attention, but it's substance that is winning him the day in the GOP primary. Don't kid yourself.
his said his racist, xenophobic shit was entertainment, not SUBSTANCE. He's kidding you, he's lying to you, he's suckering you, he's conning you. Not me.
President Trump is a non-starter, dead in the water, still-born, self-aborting.
President Trump is a non-starter, dead in the water, still-born, self-aborting.
Your graphic language is disgusting! Seek help!
https://vine.co/v/iPBJu07Vr0e
LOL
ducks
04-26-2016, 11:45 PM
The Loophole That Could Cost Donald Trump the Nomination
Pennsylvania, which holds its primary next Tuesday, uses a nonbinding “loophole” primary — and that could cost Donald Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/donald-trump-on-the-issues.html?inline=nyt-per) the Republican nomination.
If the state adopted the delegate rules of any other primary, he would probably be an even-money favorite, or better, to amass the 1,237 delegates needed before the convention.
Instead, his chances may come down to the whims of 54 unpledged Pennsylvania delegates.
No other state leaves so many of its delegates unbound — allowed to vote for whomever they please at the convention.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/upshot/the-loophole-that-could-cost-donald-trump-the-nomination.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
But PA is urban blue and rural red
36 of 54 say they will vote for trump or who won country
boutons_deux
04-27-2016, 01:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h6BXGkgkgE
My only fear of a Donald J. Trump presidency is how wildly successful it will be. I want him to beat Hillary but I don't want his greatness to rub off and be associated with the republican party which doesn't deserve the credit for his rise. It's a real dilemma, but it's one I'm ok with.
Dirk Oneanddoneski
04-27-2016, 05:35 PM
Trump Foreign policy speech from earlier today starts @ 34:25
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Trump Foreign policy speech from earlier today starts @ 34:25
XW8RqLN3Qao
Masterful.
boutons_deux
04-27-2016, 06:10 PM
Maybe Donald Trump Has Really Lost His Mind: What If the GOP Frontrunner Isn't Crazy, but Simply Not Well?
Channeling his inner Sarah Palin, Trump’s rants often seem to lose any connection with reality at all. Take the example of Trump’s interview with the Washington Post editorial board in March. During that exchange one of the editors asked Trump if he would consider using a tactical nuclear weapon against ISIS.Check out Trump’s reply: (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/03/21/a-transcript-of-donald-trumps-meeting-with-the-washington-post-editorial-board/)
TRUMP: I don’t want to use, I don’t want to start the process of nuclear. Remember the one thing that everybody has said, I’m a counterpuncher. Rubio hit me. Bush hit me. When I said low energy, he’s a low-energy individual, he hit me first. I spent, by the way, he spent 18 million dollars’ worth of negative ads on me. That’s putting [MUFFLED]…
RYAN: This is about ISIS. You would not use a tactical nuclear weapon against ISIS?
TRUMP: I’ll tell you one thing, this is a very good-looking group of people here. Could I just go around so I know who the hell I’m talking to?
We have become so accustomed to these sorts of ramblings that we don’t really register them as anything more than standard nonsensical Trump-speak—a pattern of speech we have seen crop up across the GOP in recent years, most notably in Palin’s gibberish. But I urge you to re-read the exchange above and register the range of nonsense—the lack of basic grammar, the odd syntax, the abrupt shift in topic, the disconnect from reality, the paranoia, and the seeming inability to even grasp the question.
what if his campaign isn’t a sign of a savvy politician channeling Tea Party political rhetoric and reality TV sound bites? What if it’s an example of someone who doesn’t have full command of his faculties?
There could be a good reason why. At times it can be very hard to distinguish between extreme right-wing politics and symptoms of dementia. The Alzheimer’s Association tells us that if two of the following core mental functions seem impaired then it is time to seek medical help (http://www.alz.org/what-is-dementia.asp): Memory, communication and language, ability to focus and pay attention, reasoning and judgment, visual perception.
Alzheimer’s carries other symptoms besides memory loss including (http://www.alz.org/alzheimers_disease_what_is_alzheimers.asp#symptoms ) difficulty remembering newly learned information, disorientation, mood and behavior changes; deepening confusion about events, time and place; unfounded suspicions about family, friends and professional caregivers; more serious memory loss and behavior changes.
Scholars of the recent trends in GOP politics point to some of the very same tendencies happening across the extreme right-wing faction of the party.
it is now often difficult to distinguish Republican rhetoric from the ravings of someone suffering from diminished mental capacity. :lol
The next real warning sign was the doctor letter Trump trotted out to show that he was in fine shape. The Daily Beast jokingly said that the letter was more insane than Trump’s campaign (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/14/the-donald-s-trumped-up-medical-report.html). But, at the time, no one expected him to still be the frontrunner today. I urge you to take a look and re-read the letter now (http://www.npr.org/2015/12/14/459700154/doctor-trump-would-be-healthiest-individual-ever-elected-president).
One might wonder how a physician could mess up the phrase “to whom it may concern” and not be asked for a revision from the Trump team, but the really disturbing tells are the reference to “positive” results (which in medicine means actually finding an ailment) and Trump being the “healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency” (a statement that can’t be proven).
Last October, Death and Taxes ran a piece wondering if Trump had dementia (http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/265291/donald-trump-dementia/). They pointed to the fact that Trump’s father, Fred, was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s six years prior to his death. They also highlighted Trump’s aggressive late-night tweets, his childish behavior, his name-calling and mood swings. They explained that it would be really easy for Trump take some tests and prove that he is mentally fit.
“Because if Trump can prove he’s not suffering from a degenerative neurological disorder that has left him with a damaged mind devoid of all shame or self-awareness, he might just be an asshole.”
One excellent example was John Oliver’s brilliant piece on Trump that ended by outing that Trump’s name had originally been Drumpf—a truth that was extremely ironic since Trump himself likes to mock others for their names.
Lee Camp’s Redacted Tonight reminded viewers that Trump speaks at a fourth grade level (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqX4wg5aojs). That makes him, according to Camp, scientifically proven to be the dumbest candidate of them all.
But Camp’s joke is only funny if Trump is talking that way to attract voters who respond to his simplistic rhetoric.
It’s not funny if he really has lost the ability to speak like a healthy adult.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/maybe-donald-trump-has-really-lost-his-mind-what-if-gop-frontrunner-isnt-crazy-simply
After voting in Alzheimer's St Ronnie, how consistent if Repugs nominated a brain-damaged Trump.
boutons_deux
04-27-2016, 06:20 PM
Trump University lawsuit will go to trial, NY judge rules
http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/styles/ratio--3-2--1_5x-1245x830/public/ap_05052306686.jpg?itok=GiYT8Wo8
The lawsuit against Donald Trump’s self-styled “university” accusing it of scamming hundreds of students can head to trial, a New York judge decided Tuesday.
Eric Schneiderman, New York state’s attorney general, filed a $40 million civil suit against Trump University — an online program for would-be real estate investors — in 2013. He claimed the school used fraud and false advertising techniques to lure students with the promise that they could get rich — just like Trump.
The school has come under renewed scrutiny since the businessman became the front-runner in the GOP presidential race and touted that Trump University earned an “A” rating (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/better-business-bureau-trump-right-rating-mostly-n527671) with the Better Business Bureau.
The agency said in February that Trump University no longer had any rating because it was believed to be out of business. While it had “A” ratings in the past under a previous name of the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, it also collected ratings of “D-minus.”
Trump’s lawyer argued Tuesday in Manhattan Supreme Court that the fraud case against the university deserves a jury trial. The judge didn’t set a trial date, but said lawyers for both sides can submit arguments in regards to a jury.
Schneiderman said he wants a trial to move quickly in court after “thousands of Mr. Trump’s alleged victims have been waiting years for relief from his fraud.”
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trump-university-lawsuit-will-go-trial-ny-judge-rules?cid=sm_fb_lastword
boutons_deux
04-27-2016, 06:34 PM
Here are the top 7 Carly Fiorina television interview meltdowns ranked
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/the-top-7-carly-fiorina-television-interview-meltdowns-ranked/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Lol Trump is doctor cerified healthy, like all remaining candidates.
AGHHHHHHH.... Carly just won't go away.
Mitch
04-27-2016, 09:30 PM
botox deuce in full meltdown mode, tbh. post a few salon articles, it'll make you feel better. maybe a guilty pleasure huffpost or onion article as well
pgardn
04-27-2016, 10:16 PM
Masterful.
You have some incredibly low standards.
pgardn
04-27-2016, 10:17 PM
Here are the top 7 Carly Fiorina television interview meltdowns ranked
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/the-top-7-carly-fiorina-television-interview-meltdowns-ranked/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Wtf does it matter boots?
Winehole23
04-28-2016, 02:23 AM
You have some incredibly low standards.DMX trollin.
Must say, had me on the hook for awhile. Does it well.
boutons_deux
04-28-2016, 04:32 AM
Cruz really thinks CarLIE will improve his cred, give him a boost at brokered convention?
All these assholes live in fantasy worlds, where facts, logic, science, data are totally denied.
boutons_deux
04-28-2016, 07:45 PM
Florida GOP official: Against Donald Trump, Clinton 'going to go down like Monica Lewinsky' (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/28/1521166/-Florida-GOP-official-Against-Donald-Trump-Clinton-is-going-to-go-down-like-Monica-Lewinsky)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/04/28/1521166/-Florida-GOP-official-Against-Donald-Trump-Clinton-is-going-to-go-down-like-Monica-Lewinsky?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29
All Repugs are classless bags of shit
Mitch
04-28-2016, 08:30 PM
Another "white powder" scare at trump tower, hopefully they catch whoever does these terrorism pranks tbh
Splits
04-28-2016, 08:54 PM
Another "white powder" scare at trump tower, hopefully they catch whoever does these terrorism pranks tbh
You mean like how they caught the anthrax terrorist?
Mitch
04-28-2016, 09:11 PM
You mean like how they caught the anthrax terrorist?
No, like how they didn't catch the guy who mailed Trump's son a letter with white powder saying next time it'll be real. The terrorism pranks should be punished with jail time, tbh.
Dirk Oneanddoneski
04-28-2016, 09:43 PM
FCjjVSmop5Q
you might remember Carl the cuck and AIDS Skrillex
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/carl-the-cuck-and-aids-skrillex
Now let me introduce you to trigglypuff
BY1H1rZL53I
http://i.imgur.com/Cv9lLgl.jpg
spurraider21
04-28-2016, 10:05 PM
:lmao trump retelling the retarded pig blood story
Mitch
04-28-2016, 10:08 PM
you might remember Carl the cuck and AIDS Skrillex
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/carl-the-cuck-and-aids-skrillex
Now let me introduce you to trigglypuff
BY1H1rZL53I
http://i.imgur.com/Cv9lLgl.jpg
I have never in my life seen a person so out of shape that they tire themselves out just shouting for a minute. Even that fatass Christie can go on for half an hour before needing an M&M break.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/politics/donald-trump-bernie-sanders/
CNN: Donald Trump's new target: Bernie Sanders supporters
With the Republican presidential nomination within his grasp, Donald Trump is courting an unlikely group of voters: Bernie Sanders supporters.
The GOP front-runner has ratcheted up his rhetoric against presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in recent weeks, calling her a "crooked" politician who is unqualified to be president. But when it comes to her challenger, Bernie Sanders, Trump has taken a notably softer tone, praising the Vermont senator's rhetoric and encouraging him to launch a third-party bid.
"I think Bernie Sanders should run as an independent. I think he'd do great," Trump said at a victory rally in New York City Tuesday night, after sweeping five GOP contests in the Northeast.
The next morning, Trump said on MSNBC: "Bernie Sanders has a message that's interesting. I'm going to be taking a lot of the things Bernie said and using them."
Trump's advisers say these comments are a preview of more explicit overtures the campaign is ready to make to Sanders' supporters once the populist liberal exits the 2016 race. That strategy is based on the broad areas of overlap between voters attracted to Trump and those who have flocked to Sanders. Both have angrily denounced the political system as corrupt and expressed deep frustration that Washington is not helping ordinary people. They both oppose international trade deals, saying they hurt American jobs.
And, of course, targeting Sanders supporters could serve to undermine Clinton.
Splits
04-29-2016, 04:09 PM
tlongII (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=158) is that you?
Racist Trump Fan Arrested With Stockpile Of Pipe Bombs After Threatening Obama
John Martin Roos, 61, repeatedly threatened to kill President Barack Obama in regular racist rants on Twitter and Facebook.
04/29/2016 04:25 pm ET
WASHINGTON — A fanatical Donald Trump supporter, who was arrested by the FBI in Oregon this week after repeatedly threatening to kill President Barack Obama and federal agents, had multiple pipe bombs in his home, authorities alleged in court on Friday.
John Martin Roos, a 61-year-old from Oregon, has been charged with communication of a threat in interstate commerce, and additional charges are likely forthcoming. Roos first came onto the federal government’s radar after a “concerned citizen” brought Roos’ Facebook and Twitter postings to the FBI’s attention in February, according to an affidavit from Special Agent Jeffrey Gray. (Excerpts, below, from Roos’ postings contain explicit language.)
In one Jan. 31 Facebook post cited by the FBI, Roos referred to agents as “pussies” and wrote he would “snipe them with hunting rifles everywhere.” (Despite his threats to kill members of law enforcement, he also complained on Facebook earlier this month about the “liberal media ... slamming police.”) In a post in November that was also cited by the FBI, Roos spoke out against accepting refugees and threatened to kill Obama.
“Obama you goat fffing fudgepacker, the refugees are men of fighting age. Black lives matter! Sure we need someone to pick cotton and wash cars. Paris, burn diseased muslim neighborhoods to the ground and start over with human beings. Obama you are on a hit list,” he wrote in a post that appears to have been removed.
Beyond what was mentioned in the affidavit, Roos regularly posted on both Facebook and Twitter about his support for Trump and his hatred for Obama, who he called a “muslim faggot” and other derogatory terms. He indicated he wanted to kill Obama’s family and made other racist and sexist statements about Michelle Obama. He also made negative references to Attorney General Loretta Lynch, singer Beyonce, Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly and reporter Michelle Fields, and said he believed that the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia was killed by Obama. He praised Ann Coulter and Stacey Dash, and posted several links to posts on Breitbart.com.
He regularly posted about his support for Trump, the leading Republican presidential candidate. In one post mentioned in court filings, Roos stated that he believed the establishment “is trying to steal the election” from Trump. “All hail Donald Trump, the savior of America,” he wrote on Christmas Eve. “I’ll bet he was born on Dec 25 just like Jesus.”
When two FBI special agents visited him in March, Roos allegedly acknowledged making the postings on social media, calling the threats a way he “blows off steam.” He said he didn’t intend to harm anyone, but also that he would “punch Obama in the nose” if he had the chance.
After a federal judge signed off on a search warrant, FBI agents searched Roos’ home, where he lives with a roommate. According to the affidavit they found “an AK-47 like firearm,” a rifle and shotgun, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and a .45 caliber Glock hidden under a couch cushion. Four pipe bombs were found in a white bucket next to Roos’ computer workstation. Another weapon was found underneath the floor mat of his truck.
tlongII
04-29-2016, 04:36 PM
Of course not.
Mitch
04-29-2016, 04:38 PM
Saw my boy Juanito ( LkrFan) at the Costa Mesa rally, good thing ICE missed him
http://assets.mediaspanonline.com/prod/12921830/GOP-2016-Trump-2104292016_w315.jpg
Holden_Caulfield
04-29-2016, 05:24 PM
lol damn i was gonna attend a trump rally in cali just for shits and giggles but nevermind
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/politics/donald-trump-bernie-sanders/
CNN: Donald Trump's new target: Bernie Sanders supporters
Trump proving his lacks originality and creativity.
First he steals Reagan's slogan and now he's stealking Bernie's rhetorics and attacks to use on Clinton.
Also, good luck trying to get Sanders supporters. :lol
Trump proving his lacks originality and creativity.
First he steals Reagan's slogan and now he's stealking Bernie's rhetorics and attacks to use on Clinton.
Also, good luck trying to get Sanders supporters. :lol
He's got me.
HI-FI
04-29-2016, 09:19 PM
He's got me.
You like his foreign policy (as do I) but what about his takes on immigration? Since you're a democrat and they want hordes of illegals, does Trump's take on that piss you off?
You like his foreign policy (as do I) but what about his takes on immigration? Since you're a democrat and they want hordes of illegals, does Trump's take on that piss you off?
I'm ok with a wall... we do need to better protect our borders. I don't like the idea of trying to kick out millions of illegal immigrants but what he has suggested isn't even possible so I suspect the end actual result wouldn't look that different from the peak of when Obama was deporting people left and right.
Mitch
04-29-2016, 09:57 PM
Trump proving his lacks originality and creativity.
First he steals Reagan's slogan and now he's stealking Bernie's rhetorics and attacks to use on Clinton.
Also, good luck trying to get Sanders supporters. :lol
Watya like about Clinton, Reck? You seem to avoid saying anything bad about her, tbh
Watya like about Clinton, Reck? You seem to avoid saying anything bad about her, tbh
I'm indifferent toward her.
Outside of her email scandal she's not saying outrageous shit. She's running a boring presidential campaign.
What's there that hasn't already been said about her? The emails and the paid speeches is old news. Give me something to actually critic Mitch.
Mitch
04-29-2016, 10:59 PM
I'm indifferent toward her.
Outside of her email scandal she's not saying outrageous shit. She's running a boring presidential campaign.
What's there that hasn't already been said about her? The emails and the paid speeches is old news. Give me something to actually critic Mitch.
She's a certified warhawk at a time when there is a lot of potential military intervention to be had. Don't you think the US should stop being so interventionist, tbh? Her and Kasich are pretty much the biggest pro-war candidates on the podium.
boutons_deux
04-30-2016, 02:12 PM
Trump Throws Racist Tantrum Calling Hispanic Protesters Thugs And Criminals
Donald Trump has responded to the protesters in California, many of whom were Hispanic, by calling them thugs and criminals.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/30/trump-throws-racist-tantrum-calling-hispanic-protesters-thugs-criminals.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
Autocrat Trump already criminalizing dissent, free assembly.
MultiTroll
04-30-2016, 02:16 PM
^^^ :lol what a completely biased article.
Newcasts show beaners jumping on police cars, climbing up traffic light poles with the Mexican flag in their arms.
GTFO.
boutons_deux
04-30-2016, 02:31 PM
Journalist who profiled Melania Trump hit with barrage of antisemitic abuse
Julia Ioffe has received disturbing calls and online abuse since profiling Donald Trump’s wife (http://www.gq.com/story/melania-trump-gq-interview) for GQ, and likens antisemitism to ‘shit I’ve only seen in Russia’
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/28/julia-ioffe-journalist-melania-trump-antisemitic-abuse
Just your exercising their typical white Euro-males exercising their identity politics
boutons_deux
05-02-2016, 07:59 AM
Trump’s most impressive boast is a brazen lie
There is, however, a rather important problem with the entire argument: it’s based on a fairly obvious lie.
Trump’s claim is that he, relying solely on his extraordinary instincts and unrivaled prognostication skills, recognized that the war in Iraq would be a disaster from the outset. The political establishment at the time lacked Trump’s vision, but if insiders had only listened to him, a catastrophic mistake could have been avoided.
Last fall, Trump went so far as to say, in multiple interviews, that he was so outspoken in his condemnations of the U.S. invasion plans in 2003 that officials from the Bush/Cheney White House actually reached out to him, urging him to tone down (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/10/21/donald-trumps-baseless-claim-that-the-bush-white-house-tried-to-silence-his-iraq-war-opposition-in-2003/) his criticism before he started turning Americans against the coming conflict.
These are all important assertions in the 2016 race, which may impress Clinton’s critics, but which aren’t even remotely true. Not to put too fine a point on this, but Trump is brazenly, shamelessly lying (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/25/timeline-of-trumps-comments-on-iraq-invasion-not-loud-not-strong-and-no-headlines/). There is literally no evidence to substantiate any of his claims, and extensive evidence that proves the opposite.
On Sept. 11, 2002, for example, Howard Stern asked Trump, “Are you for invading Iraq?” Trump replied (http://www.vox.com/2016/2/18/11057968/donald-trump-iraq-war-2002), “Yeah, I guess so.”
One can certainly characterize this as lukewarm support for the disastrous war, but it’s hardly a position that can fairly be described as opposition. And for a New York Times columnist to tell readers that Trump “thought the invasion of Iraq was a stupid idea” is both wrong and bizarre. (As of this morning, Dowd’s error has not yet generated a correction.)
In fairness, Trump eventually criticized the war in Iraq, but only well after the Bush/Cheney policy took a devastating turn for the worse and it became painfully obvious to everyone that the U.S. invasion had been a terrible mistake. But by the time Trump acknowledged this, he was only repeating observations that had already dawned on much of the country.
The larger dynamic to keep in mind is that some in the political world have not yet come to terms with Trump’s unique style of campaigning:
(1) manufacture self-aggrandizing boast;
(2) repeat said boast regularly;
(3) wait for unsuspecting media professionals to accept boast at face value;
(4) repeat.
It’s a shame some haven’t noticed the pattern sooner, failing to recognize the importance of scrutinizing Trump’s demonstrably ridiculous claims, but it’s not too late. The likely Republican nominee will continue to make outrageous boasts with no basis in fact, counting on journalists to simply give him the benefit of the doubt, between now and Election Day. For those who’ve been fooled by Trump’s falsehoods, now would be an excellent time to re-adjust their b.s. detectors accordingly.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-most-impressive-boast-brazen-lie?cid=sm_fb_maddow
You Trump supporters are such stupid, ignorant suckers and dupes.
"I guess so"... LMAO, what a ringing endorsement and on the Howard Stern Show of all places. :lol
Obviously he reconsidered and has consistently opposed the war for some time.... long before republicans ever accepted that it was a bad idea...
It was Hillary Clinton's job to determine whether or not to approve the war and she had access to much more state intelligence and information than Trump, and yet SHE STILL GOT IT WRONG.
boutons_deux
05-02-2016, 11:01 AM
"I guess so"... LMAO, what a ringing endorsement and on the Howard Stern Show of all places. :lol
Obviously he reconsidered and has consistently opposed the war for some time.... long before republicans ever accepted that it was a bad idea...
It was Hillary Clinton's job to determine whether or not to approve the war and she had access to much more state intelligence and information than Trump, and yet SHE STILL GOT IT WRONG.
Trump is lying that he didn't support the war until he FOLLOWED a bunch of other people who figured out the Repugs lied USA into Iraq.
Repugs have NEVER admitted the Iraq war for oil was a LIE.
Repugs have NEVER admitted the Iraq war for oil was a LIE.
Trump said it was a lie.
boutons_deux
05-02-2016, 12:19 PM
Trump said it was a lie.
... that he swallowed, and he's not a Repug, as the Repug establishment will tell you.
boutons_deux
05-02-2016, 01:33 PM
Trump's Foreign Policy Adviser Thinks Turkey Is Conspiring With Native Americans to Build Nukes
Joseph Schmitz seems unaware that Turkey is a U.S. ally and member of NATO.
The dam, which was built in the 1930s on tribal land, was renamed (http://missoulian.com/news/local/cskt-officially-assumes-ownership-of-kerr-dam-announces-new-name/article_c1061b4d-0a60-5930-8f20-36ca6c0dd060.html) the Seli’š Ksanka Qlispe’ dam when the tribally owned Energy Keepers, Inc., paid nearly $18.3 million to NorthWestern Energy to acquire it.
That’s when things got weird.
Schmitz, who’s an “insider” with the right-wing Newsmax website and senior fellow at the virulently anti-Islam Center for Security Policy, and fellow co-counsel Lawrence Kogan filed a lawsuit seeking to block the transfer—which they argued posed a national security threat from Turkey.
The attorneys claimed the dam transfer would allow the Turkish government and terrorists to obtain nuclear materials, although they were unable to provide any factual evidence of their claims.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trumps-foreign-policy-adviser-thinks-turkey-conspiring-native-americans-build-nukes
Holy shit! Lawyers! :lol
boutons_deux
05-02-2016, 08:05 PM
America Has Never Been So Ripe for Tyranny
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/29/magazine/29-sullivan.w529.h352.2x.jpg
For Trump is not just a wacky politician of the far right, or
a riveting television spectacle, or
a Twitter phenom and bizarre working-class hero.
He is not just another candidate to be parsed and analyzed by TV pundits in the same breath as all the others.
In terms of our liberal democracy and constitutional order,
Trump is an extinction-level event.
It’s long past time we started treating him as such.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html?ncid=newsltushpmg00000003
TheSanityAnnex
05-02-2016, 08:25 PM
Trump Throws Racist Tantrum Calling Hispanic Protesters Thugs And Criminals
Donald Trump has responded to the protesters in California, many of whom were Hispanic, by calling them thugs and criminals.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/30/trump-throws-racist-tantrum-calling-hispanic-protesters-thugs-criminals.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
Autocrat Trump already criminalizing dissent, free assembly.
20 arrested, police car smashed, police in riot gear, man beat up and sent to hospital. :lol dissent and free assembly.
boutons_deux
05-03-2016, 06:57 AM
WHITE POWER MEETS BUSINESS CASUAL
Inside the Effort to “Make White Nationalism Great Again”
http://washingtonspectator.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/kkk-768x684.jpg
NPI is no ordinary Washington think tank. Founded by an heir to a conservative publishing fortune, it drew white nationalists and sympathizers from around the country—and at least one from Canada—to its innocuously named “Identity Politics” conference a couple of days after Donald Trump dominated the field on Super Tuesday.
It is the rise of the bombastic Republican frontrunner that brought this amalgam of aggrieved crusaders together for an evening of cocktails, appetizers, and songs of praise to the candidate who’s inspired them to dip a toe into the stream of establishment politics.
When Spencer asked who is under 30, at least 20 people raised their hands—myself included. He seemed delighted. The movement, he said, needs that “youthful” energy.
a slideshow of various right-wing memes welcomed self-described “shitlord” and video-blogger, Paul Ramsey. Among this crowd, he is better known by his pseudonym, Ramzpaul.
. “Identity,” the bedrock of the alt-right agenda, rests upon three pillars: sex realism (“men and women are suited for different roles”), race (inexplicably broken up into “race realism, nationalism, and Jews”), and natural order (a nebulous and quasi-mythical construct that appears to amount to the naïve, tautological, and politically irrelevant idea that society should resist acting against what is deemed “natural”).
Ramzpaul proceeded to identify several cultural scapegoats. The latest Star Wars is bad because it shows that women can be epic warriors and have better command of a fictional psycho-spiritual “force.” The military is bad because it’s putting dainty lil’ ladies right up against tough guy machismo. The media is bad because it dubs all adherents to race-conscious ideologies white “supreeeeeeeeeemists,” without considering the nuances of their high-minded intellectual exercise!
So white, so right
The National Policy Institute was founded in 2005 by William Regnery II who, in the words of the Southern Poverty Law Center, is a “prime mover and shaker” within academic white nationalist circles. As an heir to the conservative Regnery Publishing, which brought us Trump’s campaign screed Time to Get Tough in 2011, Regnery has thrown his fortune behind a number of white nationalist causes.
In 2001, he founded the Occidental Quarterly, whose pseudo-scientific agitprop makes it “sort of the Nature of academic racism,” according to Mother Jones. Indeed, NPI’s Identity Politics conference featured one of the Quarterly’s higher profile contributors—Kevin MacDonald, a disgraced former academic who maintains that Jews are responsible for an influx of non-white immigrants to the United States.
Under Spencer’s guidance, NPI has helped lead the North American crusade for what Spencer calls “identitarianism”—an ideology that has its roots in the French far-right and posits that identity (in this case, racial) is the crux of any political, religious, or political movement.
Trump the übermensch
After that startling exchange of gifts among the identity-conscious agitators, Kevin MacDonald took the stage. Applause filled the room as the 72-year-old stepped to the podium. The guy’s some fucking hero, I noted. This is a standing ovation.
MacDonald—true to his RateMyProfessor assessment—is dry. Yet he sounded more like a disgruntled uncle reflecting on the good ol’ days of white supremacy than an academic.
http://washingtonspectator.org/white-nationalist-trump-election/
boutons_deux
05-03-2016, 07:08 AM
Despicable Trump Ally Roger Stone Called for Bernie Sanders to Be Shot for Treason
This red-baiting dirty trickster, who once loved and now hates the Bushes, is still highly influential in the Trump campaign.
http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/screen_shot_2016-05-02_at_12.57.43_pm.png
These days, the notorious, nefarious Stone—opposition researcher, all-around dirty trickster, organizer of the “Brooks Brothers riot” of the 2000 Florida recount, rumor-monger of the Michelle Obama “whitey” tape, and general political hitman for the GOP (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2008/11/20/a-gop-dirty-trickster-has-second-thoughts.html)—remains an ally of Donald Trump (even though he quit last year as Trump’s campaign manager).
He is also chief of a Trump SuperPac (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/04/20/movie-producer-and-son-phillies-co-owner-big-donor-behind-roger-stone-s-controversial-group/209970), the Committee to Restore America's Greatness.
trash talk, with ample portions of pseudo-hick xenophobia and exuberant misogyny (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/29/1521397/-Trump-s-strategy-against-Hillary-Clinton-Misogyny-misogyny-and-if-that-doesn-t-work-misogyny).
http://www.alternet.org/files/screen_shot_2016-05-02_at_12.58.21_pm.png
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/despicable-trump-ally-roger-stone-called-bernie-sanders-be-shot-treason
You Trump-suckers support an autocratic, tacky, classless piece of shit, a reflection of yourselves.
Mitch (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=36270) What did I say about Trump's people using the communist schtick on Sanders. :lol
boutons_deux
05-03-2016, 07:53 AM
Seth Meyers Shreds Trump's Pathetic Ground Game and Bogus Claims About a Rigged System
here’s at least one thing that Trump has proven he can’t run, and that’s his own delegate operation. Now, this is complicated, but basically when you win a primary, you get delegates to the GOP convention. But you need people to serve as those delegates. And in addition to that, a few states [like Colorado] don’t even hold primaries. They hold local and statewide conventions where they choose those delegates directly. Getting those delegates requires a strong organization on the ground, and so far Trump has been very, very bad at this.
Trump received 0 of 34 delegates at the Colorado convention—and just 1 of 25 in North Dakota.
Trump should be able to figure this out because not only is he a “great manager” but a “really smart person,” he claims. “I have a very good brain,” he told MSNBC last month.
the state of Washington hasn’t held its primary yet, but the campaigns still need to recruit people to serve as delegates there. Because even if Trump wins the Washington primary, those delegates can vote for whoever they want to on the second ballot at a contested GOP convention.”
According to Mediaite, “The campaign sent out an email soliciting possible delegates on Friday, April 8 to let everyone know that the deadline [to submit their Declaration of Candidacy for Delegate form] was Wednesday, April 6.”
But it gets worse. The Trump campaign actually sent the email to residents of Washington, D.C.—not Washington state.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/seth-meyers-shreds-trumps-weak-ground-game-and-its-totally-embarrassing-delegate
spurraider21
05-03-2016, 09:11 AM
trump is a terrible candidate and i'll never vote for him, but LOL :cry tyranny :cry
boutons_deux
05-03-2016, 09:50 AM
Trump’s latest conspiracy theory is a doozy, even for Trump
Take this morning, for example, when Trump, repeating a story he saw in a tabloid, alleged that Ted Cruz’s father was seen palling around with Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963. Politico reported (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/trump-ted-cruz-father-222730) this morning:
“His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald’s being – you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous,” Trump said Tuesday during a phone interview with Fox News. “What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don’t even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it.”
“I mean, what was he doing – what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?” Trump continued. “It’s horrible.”
No, really, that’s what he said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9vj9Tl0omw).
In keeping with his m.o., Trump’s odd broadside against his rival’s father comes on the heels of Rafael Cruz, a prominent surrogate for his son’s campaign, telling conservatives that a Trump presidency could lead to “the destruction of America.”
Evidently, Trump heard this and decided to respond with a JFK assassination conspiracy theory.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-latest-conspiracy-theory-doozy-even-trump?cid=sm_fb_maddow
I can't wait for tonight's glorious victory by Mr. Trump!
Trill Clinton
05-03-2016, 10:58 AM
:danceclub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkZ5e94QnWk
Dirk Oneanddoneski
05-03-2016, 05:38 PM
EKTWoCDVnAU
Mitch
05-03-2016, 07:17 PM
Mitch (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=36270) What did I say about Trump's people using the communist schtick on Sanders. :lol
I dunno, Trump has been pretty nice to Bernie lately. He wants Bernie to run as independent to schlong the hilary
Mitch
05-03-2016, 08:03 PM
There it is
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Aztecfan03
05-03-2016, 09:36 PM
There it is
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eff that. Can't vote for someone who is just as bad as Hillary. Third party or write-in for me.
TheSanityAnnex
05-03-2016, 10:11 PM
eff that. Can't vote for someone who is just as bad as Hillary. Third party or write-in for me.
Basically a vote for Hillary. I'm not pleased either but was always voting against Hillary no matter who the nominee was. Sack up and take one for the team.
eff that. Can't vote for someone who is just as bad as Hillary. Third party or write-in for me.
Do you live in Texas?
Gummi Clutch
05-04-2016, 12:26 AM
I'm indifferent toward her.
Outside of her email scandal she's not saying outrageous shit. She's running a boring presidential campaign.
What's there that hasn't already been said about her? The emails and the paid speeches is old news. Give me something to actually critic Mitch.
Same, at the very least she is one of the most intelligent candidates ever and has extensive experience. I don't really like her, seems cold and fake but w.e
Compared to the shit the GOP has been serving...:lol
boutons_deux
05-04-2016, 12:42 AM
Repugs are so fucked. :lol
And America is fucked, too.
Trump should choose either Rubio (camp him out in Miami-Dade and Broward/have him on Univision often) or Kasich for VP. Go hard after FL, OH, VA, NH, NC and pay attention to AZ. Try for IA, MI, and WI (although Never Trump movement poisoned the well here) too.
pgardn
05-04-2016, 08:45 AM
Trump should choose either Rubio (camp him out in Miami-Dade and Broward/have him on Univision often) or Kasich for VP. Go hard after FL, OH, VA, NH, NC and pay attention to AZ. Try for IA, MI, and WI (although Never Trump movement poisoned the well here) too.
Rubio?
The bridge that was never there is burned. Rubio still has future aspirations When Trump loses being the presumptive VP would look awful. No way no how.
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