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boutons_deux
08-01-2015, 07:01 PM
Donald Trump Becomes The Face Of The GOP As He Surges To Huge Lead In Iowa
A Gravis Marketing poll released on July 31st confirms that Donald Trump has become the face of the Republican Party.
Sure, party insiders and pundits are still trying to distance themselves from Trump’s toxic rhetoric, but much to their chagrin, Republican voters are embracing Trump’s politics of derision and division.
The Gravis Marketing (http://www.oann.com/polliowa/) poll found Trump surging to a huge lead in Iowa.
Trump polled at 31 percent in the GOP field, followed by Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker at 15 percent, and former Florida Governor Jeb Bush at 10 percent.
Several other Republican candidates were mired in the single digits.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08/01/donald-trump-face-gop-surges-huge-lead-iowa.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
Holy shit! Go Donny Boy! Take the Repugs over the cliff! :lol
boutons_deux
08-02-2015, 11:21 AM
Donald Trump: Blacks are ‘worse than just about ever’ because Obama ‘set a very low bar’
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump predicted on Sunday that he would win that he would win the black vote because President Barack Obama had set a “poor standard,” which made things worse than “just about ever” for African-Americans.”
“He has set a very low bar and I think it’s a shame for the African-American people,” Trump told ABC’s Jonathan Karl.
“And by the way, he has done nothing for African-Americans. You look at what’s going on, at their income levels, you look at what’s gone on with their youth.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/donald-trump-blacks-are-worse-than-just-about-ever-because-obama-set-a-very-low-bar/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
So what does President Trump intend to do to help black people?
Repugs have screwed black people by failing to expand Medicaid, closing health clinics, intending to kill PP, refusing to raise the minimum wage, etc.
boutons_deux
08-02-2015, 01:59 PM
Trump: People Won’t Vote For Another Black President Because Of Obamahttp://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/02/3687115/trump-says-obama-ruined-black-presidents/
Repug establishment really pissed because Trump not using a dog whistle, but a very audible human whistle, as the Repug base is exposed as racist, xenophobic, nativist, and just fucking nasty.
Nixon/Atwater/Ailes racist Southern Strategy (turn southern racist Dems into racist Repug base) is biting them in the ass.
Spurminator
08-02-2015, 02:00 PM
:lol The "typo" excuse
Sorry, David, but you're just really, really dumb.
I found a typo, I win the argument!
(exits)
cd021
08-03-2015, 09:58 AM
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/poll-75-latinos-have-negative-view-donald-trump-n402621
75% of Latinos have a negative view of Trump. GOP needs 45% of the Latino vote to win the white house. :lmao
boutons_deux
08-03-2015, 09:59 AM
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/poll-75-latinos-have-negative-view-donald-trump-n402621
75% of Latinos have a negative view of Trump. GOP needs 45% of the Latino vote to win the white house. :lmao
I'm surprised the 75% is so low
hater
08-03-2015, 10:01 AM
:lol this shit is gold
boutons_deux
08-03-2015, 10:06 AM
but 75% Latinos voting against any Repug, plus votes from women, blacks, young, LGBT, greens, is more than enough, yet again, to defeat any fucking Repug asshole candidate.
old white men gonna vote Repug and continue to be screwed by Repugs.
boutons_deux
08-03-2015, 11:07 AM
Donald Trump Blasts GOP Rivals at Koch Summit as ‘Puppets’
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1980294624/DJT_Headshot_V2_normal.jpgDonald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
I wish good luck to all of the Republican candidates that traveled to California to beg for money etc. from the Koch Brothers. Puppets?
9:00 AM - 2 Aug 2015 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/627841345789558788)
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https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1980294624/DJT_Headshot_V2_normal.jpgDonald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
NBC News just called it the great freeze - coldest weather in years. Is our country still spending money on the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX?
5:48 PM - 25 Jan 2014 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/427226424987385856)
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http://ecowatch.com/2015/08/03/donald-trump-koch-puppets/?utm_source=EcoWatch+List&utm_campaign=0abb8fe1c9-Top_News_8_1_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_49c7d43dc9-0abb8fe1c9-85879165
boutons_deux
08-03-2015, 01:10 PM
Timeline: Donald Trump has been getting called racist since 1973
http://www.vox.com/2015/8/3/9089495/donald-trump-racist
Donald Trump’s Instinct for Racially Charged Rhetoric, Before His Presidential Bid
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/01/nyregion/trumps-instinct-for-racially-charged-rhetoric-before-his-presidential-bid.html?referrer=
cd021
08-03-2015, 06:41 PM
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:cry But, but, he's racist! :cry
75% of Hispanics have an unfavorable view of him. Simply put he has no chance of winning the white house.
boutons_deux
08-03-2015, 08:25 PM
Forget Everything Else. Look at Trump's Net Favorables
Monmouth has polled the evolving GOP primary in April, June and July. And over that period Donald Trump's favorable ratings have gone from 28% to 52%, while his unfavorables have gone from 56% to 35%. To put that a different way he's gone from a -28% net approval to a +17% net approval . In other words, that's a 45 point shift in three months.
It's one of the truisms of politics that high negatives are close to impossible to change, especially if you're a well known person. While new (negative) facts can drive your numbers down, it's very hard to find ones that drive them back up. Like many truisms, this one is bogus. It's difficult to recover from high negatives.
But it happens all the time.
That said, this is a massive, massive shift, especially for someone who is extremely well-known to the public and must have very high name recognition numbers.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/forget-everything-else-look-at-trumps-net-favorables?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
GOP is SO FUCKED! :lol
Clipper Nation
08-03-2015, 08:26 PM
Haters make him famous, tbh.
boutons_deux
08-03-2015, 08:31 PM
Donald Trump pranked by Harvard ‘fraudsters’ and hacker tribute to Jon Stewart
Members of the satirical Harvard Lampoon fooled Republican front-runner Donald Trump into thinking the university’s newspaper endorsed his presidential campaign, The Hill reported. (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/250137-harvard-lampoon-tricks-trump-with-fake-harvard-crimson-endorsement)
“The students who perpetrated this are fraudsters and liars, but frankly it was a waste of only a few minutes,” a campaign spokesperson said after the ruse was discovered. “Mr. Trump attended the great Wharton School of Finance, a school that has more important things to do.”
Lampoon members designed a fake website (http://thecrimson.co/article/2015/7/13/crimson-supports-donald-j-trump/) claiming to belong to its archrival, theHarvard Crimson, and posted an editorial calling the real estage mogul a job creator because of the “creative domino effect” generated by his reality show, Celebrity Apprentice.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/donald-trump-pranked-by-harvard-fraudsters-and-hacker-tribute-to-jon-stewart/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
ducks
08-04-2015, 10:21 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/trump-reagan-common-things/2015/08/03/id/665217/
boutons_deux
08-04-2015, 10:30 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/trump-reagan-common-things/2015/08/03/id/665217/
they're both assholes. St Ronnie and his policies is so far left of tea baggers, that he would not get out of 2015 primary.
ducks
08-04-2015, 10:34 AM
Reagan did a alot for the country
boutons_deux
08-04-2015, 10:35 AM
St Ronnie, Useful Idiot for VRWC, did a lot of BAD for country, got the VRWC shitball rolling, and it rolls on today.
TheSanityAnnex
08-04-2015, 06:27 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-turns-cellphone-voicemail-campaign-ad/story?id=32875155
:lmao Trump wins again
boutons_deux
08-05-2015, 02:55 PM
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietnam by Staying in U.S.
AMES, IOWA — Presidential candidate Donald Trump revealed a little-known episode of personal heroism from his youth on Saturday, telling an Iowa audience that he narrowly avoided capture in Vietnam by remaining in the United States for the duration of the war.
“The Cong were after me,” Trump said, visibly stirred by the memory. “And then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.”
The former reality-show star said he had never shared his record as a war hero before because “I don’t like to boast.”
He said that he only disclosed the episode now because “the way this nation treats our deferment veterans is a disgrace.”
Trump complained that he received no official commendation or medal for his heroism, calling the lack of recognition “shameful.”
“Those brave Americans who, like me, avoided being captured by not serving at all—we are the true heroes,” he said.
Trump’s tale of valor appeared to move many members of his audience, some of whom waited in line after his speech to thank him for his lack of service.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-heroically-avoided-capture-in-vietnam-by-staying-in-u-s
TheSanityAnnex
08-05-2015, 03:52 PM
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietnam by Staying in U.S.
AMES, IOWA — Presidential candidate Donald Trump revealed a little-known episode of personal heroism from his youth on Saturday, telling an Iowa audience that he narrowly avoided capture in Vietnam by remaining in the United States for the duration of the war.
“The Cong were after me,” Trump said, visibly stirred by the memory. “And then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.”
The former reality-show star said he had never shared his record as a war hero before because “I don’t like to boast.”
He said that he only disclosed the episode now because “the way this nation treats our deferment veterans is a disgrace.”
Trump complained that he received no official commendation or medal for his heroism, calling the lack of recognition “shameful.”
“Those brave Americans who, like me, avoided being captured by not serving at all—we are the true heroes,” he said.
Trump’s tale of valor appeared to move many members of his audience, some of whom waited in line after his speech to thank him for his lack of service.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-heroically-avoided-capture-in-vietnam-by-staying-in-u-s
Do you seriously have nothing better to do with your day than highlight sentences in a satirical article? The fuck is wrong with you.
ducks
08-05-2015, 04:17 PM
serving the usa in the military does not make you qualify to be a good president or not
what Donald did 30 more years ago as long is was nothing illegal is no one business
even what he did 3 years ago is no one business
now people polictics that have been in office that is different like perry
ducks
08-05-2015, 04:19 PM
St Ronnie, Useful Idiot for VRWC, did a lot of BAD for country, got the VRWC shitball rolling, and it rolls on today.
name one person that is perfect
name one perfect person in office
there is no such thing as someone perfect including boutons_deux
boutons_deux
08-05-2015, 04:23 PM
Economists dump on Trump boast to bring jobs back from China
Donald Trump vows to bring back the millions of American jobs lost to China and other foreign competitors if voters put him in the White House.
Economists say he wouldn't stand a chance: Trump's boundless self-confidence is no match for the global economic forces that took those jobs away.
Since the beginning of 2000, the U.S. economy has lost 5 million manufacturing jobs. A study published last year by the National Bureau of Economic Research found that between 2 million and 2.4 million jobs were lost to competition from China from 1999 to 2011.
Announcing his presidential bid June 16, Trump declared: "I'll bring back our jobs from China, from Mexico, from Japan, from so many places. I'll bring back our jobs, and I'll bring back our money."
Economists were unimpressed. "It's completely implausible," says former Federal Reserve Vice Chairman Alan Blinder, a Princeton University economist who has studied the offshoring of American jobs.
Companies shifted low-skill jobs to China in the 2000s because American workers couldn't compete with Chinese workers earning around $1 an hour. Now China itself is losing low-wage manufacturing jobs to poorer countries such as Bangladesh and Vietnam.
If America tried to block foreign-made products and make everything at home, prices would skyrocket and foreign countries would likely retaliate by blocking U.S. goods from their countries. "You can't turn back the clock," Blinder says.
But there's an even bigger problem for those who want to restore U.S. manufacturing employment (now 12.3 million) to its 1979 peak of 19.6 million: Technology has taken many of those jobs for good. Today's high-tech factories employ a fraction of the workers they used to. General Motors, for example, employed 600,000 in the 1970s. It has 216,000 now — and sells more cars than ever.
"No matter who becomes president," says economist David Autor of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, "I cannot foresee a scenario where 5 million additional manufacturing jobs ... reappear in the U.S. in the decades
ahead."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-economists-donald-trump-20150805-story.html
spurraider21
08-05-2015, 05:17 PM
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-heroically-avoided-capture-in-vietnam-by-staying-in-u-s
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-economists-donald-trump-20150805-story.html
:lol booboo manipulating text sizes on certain articles to try to hide that fact that they're satire
boutons_deux
08-06-2015, 11:28 AM
Trump’s Website Hacked to Write a Thank You Note to Jon Stewart
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLe1PgzUwAA-hO2.png https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLe1OgpUEAAB-KV.png
http://ecowatch.com/2015/08/06/trump-hacked-thank-jon-stewart/
Clipper Nation
08-06-2015, 04:22 PM
The jaw-dropping rehabilitation of Donald Trump’s imagehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/donald-trumps-first-place-surge-isnt-as-impressive-as-his-image-rehab/
Spurminator
08-06-2015, 04:28 PM
:lol booboo manipulating text sizes on certain articles to try to hide that fact that they're satire
Shit I never even noticed that, that's fucked up, boots.
Also, Borowitz STILL isn't funny. The New Yorker is usually top notch writing, so not sure why they have him as their leading satirist. Any Onion intern would write better stuff.
boutons_deux
08-06-2015, 04:33 PM
Shit I never even noticed that, that's fucked up, boots.
Also, Borowitz STILL isn't funny. The New Yorker is usually top notch writing, so not sure why they have him as their leading satirist. Any Onion intern would write better stuff.
Borowitz is way too intelligent, too perceptive, too clever for you rightwingnuts.
Spurminator
08-06-2015, 05:27 PM
Borowitz is way too intelligent, too perceptive, too clever for you rightwingnuts.
As a leftwingnut, I'm used to good satire. Borowitz is low-hanging fruit.
spurraider21
08-06-2015, 05:33 PM
As a leftwingnut, I'm used to good satire. Borowitz is low-hanging fruit.
sorry. you disagreed with booboo
you're automatically a repug, BigCorp supporter 1%er... spreading VRWC LIES
Spurminator
08-06-2015, 05:38 PM
sorry. you disagreed with booboo
you're automatically a repug, BigCorp supporter 1%er... spreading VRWC LIES
Bots do make assumptions from limited information and have no long term memory.
Splits
08-06-2015, 09:45 PM
Trump getting absolutely destroyed by Fox debate "moderators", booed by the crowd, shit on by everyone on the stage, and can't fight back
:lmao Clipper Nation you fucking idiot. Once again, exposed as a know-nothing, wrong about everything, novice
Clipper Nation
08-06-2015, 10:46 PM
Trump :worthy:
Winning the debate, hands down :worthy:
ChumpDumper
08-06-2015, 10:52 PM
Trump :worthy:
Winning the debate, hands down :worthy:You didn't watch it.
Silver&Black
08-06-2015, 10:53 PM
Trump lost the debate on the very first question....
Clipper Nation
08-06-2015, 10:53 PM
You didn't watch it.
Watched every minute of it, David.
ChumpDumper
08-06-2015, 10:55 PM
Watched every minute of it, David.OK, David -- what was Trump's strongest policy statement?
Clipper Nation
08-06-2015, 10:56 PM
OK, David -- what was Trump's strongest policy statement?
That you're a faggot. You seem very threatened by Trump, David. Must be because your boy Shillary would lose to him in the general.
OK, David -- what was Trump's strongest policy statement?
Build wall Jose!!
ChumpDumper
08-06-2015, 10:58 PM
That you're a faggot. You seem very threatened by Trump, David. Must be because your boy Shillary would lose to him in the general.
:lol told you you didn't watch it, David. You seem very threatened by me. Must be because you completely full of shit and the smell of it is unmistakable.
Clipper Nation
08-06-2015, 10:59 PM
:lol told you you didn't watch it, David. You seem very threatened by me. Must be because you completely full of shit and the smell of it is unmistakable.
Again, watched every minute of it, David. Nobody's threatened by you. Meanwhile, you feel so perpetually threatened by everyone that you run and snitch to the mods to get them banned.
ChumpDumper
08-06-2015, 11:01 PM
Again, watched every minute of it, David. Nobody's threatened by you. Meanwhile, you feel so perpetually threatened by everyone that you run and snitch to the mods to get them banned.lol so scared of me.
You couldn't name any policy statement by your hero. And now you're crying.
Clipper Nation
08-06-2015, 11:04 PM
lol so scared of me.
You couldn't name any policy statement by your hero. And now you're crying.
Not scared or crying at all, David. Just because your go-to deflection when you get shat on is to accuse the person who shat on you of being "scared" doesn't mean it's true.
His strongest policy statement was obviously when he talked about keeping the illegals out.
ChumpDumper
08-06-2015, 11:05 PM
Not scared or crying at all, David. Just because your go-to deflection when you get shat on is to accuse the person who shat on you of being "scared" doesn't mean it's true.
His strongest policy statement was obviously when he talked about keeping the illegals out.Too late to copy m<s. You already shit your pants, David.
Clipper Nation
08-06-2015, 11:07 PM
Too late to copy m<s. You already shit your pants, David.
Not copying anyone, David. Your pants are permanently shit-stained.
ChumpDumper
08-06-2015, 11:08 PM
Not copying anyone, David. Your pants are permanently shit-stained.You copy everyone, David. You just copied me.
Clipper Nation
08-06-2015, 11:11 PM
THHHHHHTAUP!!! http://i.imgur.com/OABpjNh.gif
ChumpDumper
08-06-2015, 11:12 PM
Now I'm copying gtown!
ChumpDumper
08-06-2015, 11:13 PM
Seriously, you're the carlos Mencia of message board shticks
Clipper Nation
08-06-2015, 11:15 PM
Seriously, you're the carlos Mencia of message board shticks
And you're Liberace.
ChumpDumper
08-06-2015, 11:16 PM
And you're Liberace.That shtick has been done.
ducks
08-06-2015, 11:29 PM
Think trump did not do well first ever debate
But drudgereport says trump won debate
Even the normies on kikebook aren't buying Fox News's bullshit. Pic related. Just scroll through the comments and see that people aren't fooled. Fox is trying to do whatever it takes to get rid of Trump and it isn't working. CANT STUMP THE TRUMP.
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1438920272090.png
ChumpDumper
08-06-2015, 11:53 PM
lol Facebook comments
He knocked it out of the park.
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ducks
08-06-2015, 11:55 PM
http://www.drudgereport.com/now.htm
Trump winning big
ducks
08-06-2015, 11:56 PM
Fox owner hates trump
Splits
08-07-2015, 01:10 AM
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:lmao these faggot republicans
Not a single one of their women are fuckable. They have 3 token black people out of 30, and 2 of them just sit there as if they were paid to show up and shut up
:lol what a farce of a party
Clipper Nation
08-07-2015, 08:51 AM
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Can't con the Don.
Rpg28vLUPlg
:lmao these faggot republicans
Not a single one of their women are fuckable. They have 3 token black people out of 30, and 2 of them just sit there as if they were paid to show up and shut up
:lol what a farce of a party
So how many blacks are required to not be a joke party? Is there a specific number or percentage. I always thought race wasn't supposed to matter or that it doesn't exist. How do you know who in that photo even identifies as black?
ducks
08-07-2015, 12:37 PM
Mel Robbins: Trump won.
The first GOP debate is over and Trump is still winning. He dominated the polls leading into the debate. He dominated the pre-debate commentary. He was the only candidate the press greeted when he arrived in Ohio. And most importantly, the rest of the field wasn't that memorable. Yes Trump's shtick works best when he's on the campaign trail, not the debate stage but Trump didn't do too much damage. At least not enough to knock him from his lead. Plus, Fox pounded him with "gotcha' questions - like - "when did you become a Republican" yet Trump stood firm. He won the night because even despite ridiculous assertions like " building a big beautiful door" in the wall he'd build fencing off Mexico, he managed to hold his lead among nine other GOP candidates.
Mel Robbins
Mel Robbins
Keep in mind, timing is essential in a campaign. And, at this stage in the race, the public is not yet focused on the election. We're focused on paying bills, the end of summer, the start of school, basically - everything but the election. So Trump grabbed our attention early and even though Rubio, Christie and Kasich had a good night, Trump still was more memorable; which means at this stage in the race he won; for now.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/07/opinions/opinion-gop-debate-roundup/index.html
CosmicCowboy
08-07-2015, 01:24 PM
Trump lost the debate on the very first question....
You sure about that? Running Third Party is Trumps biggest hammer with the Republican Party and he just put them on notice. Shit on me and I'll shit on you right back.
ChumpDumper
08-07-2015, 01:25 PM
You sure about that? Running Third Party is Trumps biggest hammer with the Republican Party and he just put them on notice. Shit on me and I'll shit on you right back.So if he runs as the Republican nominee or as an independent, the Democrats win the presidency.
Hillary approves.
CosmicCowboy
08-07-2015, 01:28 PM
So if he runs as the Republican nominee or as an independent, the Democrats win the presidency.
Hillary approves.
As a Republican? Don't be so sure.
As an independent?
Duh.
That's the hammer.
ChumpDumper
08-07-2015, 01:32 PM
As a Republican? Don't be so sure.I'm sure.
Even Sanders beats this guy head-to-head.
Women and Hispanics will never like Trump. That's a sure loss.
CosmicCowboy
08-07-2015, 01:34 PM
I'm sure.
Even Sanders beats this guy head-to-head.
Women and Hispanics will never like Trump. That's a sure loss.
LOL Sanders
ChumpDumper
08-07-2015, 01:37 PM
LOL SandersYep, and Trump is an even bigger joke.
– Clinton thumps Trump 48 – 36 percent. She gets 41 percent to Bush’s 42 percent and gets 44 percent to Walker’s 43 percent.
– Biden tops Trump 49 – 37 percent. He gets 43 percent to Bush’s 42 percent and ties Walker 43 – 43 percent.
– Sanders beats Trump 45 – 37 percent. Bush edges Sanders 44 – 39 percent and
– Walker slips past Sanders 42 – 37 percent.
– Trump has the worst favorability rating of any Republican or Democrat, a negative 27 – 59 percent among all voters, with Clinton getting a negative 40 – 51 percent score, her worst ever.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/30/poll-shows-bernie-sanders-crush-donald-trump-2016-presidential-match.html
I await your Yonivoresque spin attempt.
CosmicCowboy
08-07-2015, 01:49 PM
Yep, and Trump is an even bigger joke.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/30/poll-shows-bernie-sanders-crush-donald-trump-2016-presidential-match.html
I await your Yonivoresque spin attempt.
LONG way to the election.
BTW,I'm not pimping Trump but I don't underestimate him either. Personally I'd like to see a ticket of Rubio and Fiorina.
ChumpDumper
08-07-2015, 01:51 PM
LONG way to the election.
BTW,I'm not pimping Trump but I don't underestimate him either. Personally I'd like to see a ticket of Rubio and Fiorina.Sure, what do you think he will do to get the votes of women and Hispanics?
I think he will make relations with them worse if anything. The republican primary process almost demands it.
Rubio is running for VP IMO.
Silver&Black
08-07-2015, 04:58 PM
You sure about that? Running Third Party is Trumps biggest hammer with the Republican Party and he just put them on notice. Shit on me and I'll shit on you right back.
It was the wrong decision to say that you won't back the Republican nominee....Plain and simple.
Like Chump said in the very next post....it pretty much would guarantee a Democrat victory if he runs independent.
See Ross Perot............
Silver&Black
08-07-2015, 04:59 PM
I'm sure.
Even Sanders beats this guy head-to-head.
Women and Hispanics will never like Trump. That's a sure loss.
Correct me if I'm wrong....but I thought Hispanics voted Trump #1 among Republicans.
CosmicCowboy
08-07-2015, 05:23 PM
It was the wrong decision to say that you won't back the Republican nominee....Plain and simple.
Like Chump said in the very next post....it pretty much would guarantee a Democrat victory if he runs independent.
See Ross Perot............
Well Duh.
That's the hammer I spoke of. I didn't think I had to spell it out for you guys.
CosmicCowboy
08-07-2015, 05:27 PM
Sure, what do you think he will do to get the votes of women and Hispanics?
I think he will make relations with them worse if anything. The republican primary process almost demands it.
Rubio is running for VP IMO.
I assume you think Bush will win out in the end? if that is the case he could do a lot worse than Rubio. Might have to take Kasich though for the electoral votes. Two guys from Florida doesn't play well in the big picture.
Silver&Black
08-07-2015, 05:35 PM
Well Duh.
That's the hammer I spoke of. I didn't think I had to spell it out for you guys.
"The Hammer" you speak of and sticking it to the Republican Party still doesn't change the fact that he lost the debate on the very first question...
It's just a bad decision to say that you won't support whoever wins the nomination. Even if Trump truly believes that he wouldn't support some nominees...just keep it to yourself. All politicians lie....and that would have been a great lie to make.
scott
08-07-2015, 05:38 PM
"The Hammer" you speak of and sticking it to the Republican Party still doesn't change the fact that he lost the debate on the very first question...
It's just a bad decision to say that you won't support whoever wins the nomination. Even if Trump truly believes that he wouldn't support some nominees...just keep it to yourself. All politicians lie....and that would have been a great lie to make.
People think Trump is actually trying to win this thing? The best part about his "candidacy" is how oblivious his supporters are to the fact they are being trolled.
ChumpDumper
08-07-2015, 05:45 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong....but I thought Hispanics voted Trump #1 among Republicans.#1 in unfavorable rating is the only thing I have seen.
Quetzal-X
08-07-2015, 05:50 PM
People think Trump is actually trying to win this thing? The best part about his "candidacy" is how oblivious his supporters are to the fact they are being trolled.
Thats the motherfucking truth. Seems he might appeal to the wwe crowd or whatever that staged and scripted wrestling novela shit is called. He looks a little tipsy as well that orange bitch motherfucker he is.
Silver&Black
08-07-2015, 05:54 PM
#1 in unfavorable rating is the only thing I have seen.
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/poll-trump-leads-gop-field-among-hispanics-records-34-favorability#.nsinpf:qiZF
I just remember that Trump tweeted (or re-tweeted someone I can't remember) that he leads among Republicans with Hispanic voters. I can't find the tweet though...will keep looking for it though..
CosmicCowboy
08-07-2015, 07:03 PM
"The Hammer" you speak of and sticking it to the Republican Party still doesn't change the fact that he lost the debate on the very first question...
It's just a bad decision to say that you won't support whoever wins the nomination. Even if Trump truly believes that he wouldn't support some nominees...just keep it to yourself. All politicians lie....and that would have been a great lie to make.
Ross Perot says HI!
Th'Pusher
08-07-2015, 07:04 PM
I assume you think Bush will win out in the end? if that is the case he could do a lot worse than Rubio. Might have to take Kasich though for the electoral votes. Two guys from Florida doesn't play well in the big picture.
I'm thinking a Kasich Rubio ticket is the republican's best shot.
CosmicCowboy
08-07-2015, 07:07 PM
People think Trump is actually trying to win this thing? The best part about his "candidacy" is how oblivious his supporters are to the fact they are being trolled.
I really don't want Trump as the nominee but at this point I think Trump really believes he can win this.
CosmicCowboy
08-07-2015, 07:08 PM
I'm thinking a Kasich Rubio ticket is the republican's best shot.
That or the other way around. Rubio is pretty charismatic. Kind of a Republican JFK.
Th'Pusher
08-07-2015, 07:18 PM
That or the other way around. Rubio is pretty charismatic. Kind of a Republican JFK.
Either way, lots of electoral votes in two battleground states without the dynastic baggage Jeb's carrying.
I'm thinking a Kasich Rubio ticket is the republican's best shot.
LMAO Rubio he's the only one who could lose to Hillary, nice try shill
He knocked it out of the park.
1Y9_LJj7A68
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Completely agree, Donald. Completely agree.
Rpg28vLUPlg
:lmao these faggot republicans
Not a single one of their women are fuckable. They have 3 token black people out of 30, and 2 of them just sit there as if they were paid to show up and shut up
:lol what a farce of a party
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FuzzyLumpkins
08-07-2015, 10:06 PM
It seems he knows he won't run. You haven't been able to piss on women like that and win an election in over 100 years.
ChumpDumper
08-08-2015, 02:35 AM
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/poll-trump-leads-gop-field-among-hispanics-records-34-favorability#.nsinpf:qiZF
I just remember that Trump tweeted (or re-tweeted someone I can't remember) that he leads among Republicans with Hispanic voters. I can't find the tweet though...will keep looking for it though..The poll I cited is more recent and includes unfavorable ratings.
ducks
08-08-2015, 09:51 AM
Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump
Re Megyn Kelly quote: "you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever" (NOSE). Just got on w/thought
5:46 AM - 8 Aug 2015 · New Jersey, USA, United States
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Clipper Nation
08-08-2015, 02:29 PM
Trump owning Megyn Kelly and that neocon hack Erick Erickson in a campaign statement:
http://i.imgur.com/HbJhKXQ.png
hater
08-08-2015, 02:40 PM
:lmao
http://www.democracy-tree.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/aviation-show-jet-fighter-crash-photo-mid-air-plane-collision2.jpg
hater
08-08-2015, 02:42 PM
:lmao FOX News Headline:
A major US conservative forum has dropped Donald Trump as a speaker, saying it was unacceptable for him to suggest that a journalist was tough on him because she was menstruating.
:lol
Splits
08-08-2015, 02:45 PM
:lmao The Donald with no shame or mercy
Clipper Nation
08-08-2015, 02:47 PM
:lmao The Donald with no shame or mercy
The Don doesn't have anything to be ashamed of, tbh. He's speaking the truth about all you politically-correct bleeding-heart faggots.
ChumpDumper
08-08-2015, 02:59 PM
lol CN melting down along with Trump.
boutons_deux
08-08-2015, 03:08 PM
The Don doesn't have anything to be ashamed of, tbh. He's speaking the truth about all you politically-correct bleeding-heart faggots.
suggesting MK bleeding from the vagina and/or anus? yeah, right, figured you rightwingnut misogynists would lap up that image.
Clipper Nation
08-08-2015, 03:41 PM
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boutons_deux
08-08-2015, 04:49 PM
Erickson kicked trump out Red State meeting for anti-woman!
dumb-as-a shrub2 chimes in
Jeb Bush Says Notorious Sexist Erick Erickson Is ‘On The Side Of Women’
Erickson, however, has a long history of extremely sexist comments. He has repeatedly stated his belief that women, in general, should not work (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/08/3689587/erick-erickson-donald-trump/).
He said men should play “the dominant role” and women earning the primary paycheck is “bad for kids and bad for marriage (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/08/3689587/erick-erickson-donald-trump/).”
He specifically cheered Trump’s sexist and mean-spirited attacks (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/08/3689587/erick-erickson-donald-trump/) on Rosie O’Donnell.
He supported the exclusion of women from Augusta National Golf Club (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/08/3689587/erick-erickson-donald-trump/), saying “I don’t want to be hanging out at some women’s event!” The list goes on and on (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/08/3689587/erick-erickson-donald-trump/).
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/08/3689627/jeb-bush-says-notorious-sexist-erick-erickson-is-on-the-side-of-women/
In 2013, Erickson and Kelly locked horns (http://thinkprogress.org/media/2013/05/31/2086611/megyn-kelly-erick-erickson/) over a comment Erickson made about women being scientifically inferior to men. Citing biology, Erickson argued that women have always played the non-dominant role to men — and that women who break that dynamic by working, or being the family’s primary breadwinner, have a negative impact on their children and their marriage.
“When you look at biology — when you look at the natural world — the roles of a male and a female in society and in other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it’s not antithesis, or it’s not competing, it’s a complementary role,” Erickson said during a Fox News panel in May of 2013, adding that having females as the primary breadwinners in a family is “bad for kids and bad for marriage.”
Defending his comments in a post on RedState a few days later, Erickson wrote that “women as primary breadwinners does make raising children harder, increasing the likelihood of harm in the development of children.”
t women staying at home to raise children is “an ideal and optimal family arrangement (http://www.redstate.com/2013/05/30/the-truth-may-hurt-but-is-not-mean/).” In 2014, he doubled-down on his earlier remarks about women being scientifically inferior to men, equating the controversy of that statement to the controversy surrounding reclining airline seats.
Erick Erickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
(https://twitter.com/EWErickson)✔@EWErickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
How awesome is Fox for letting Trump come on and bash Rosie!! Awesome.
9:54 AM - 25 Apr 2007 (https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/39486962)
Erick Erickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
(https://twitter.com/EWErickson)✔@EWErickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
Typically, women are not as funny as men. Science explains why. http://fb.me/18EwGrsUh (http://t.co/ZIFHg1tKJG)
4:22 PM - 24 May 2013 (https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/338042362699870208)
Erick Erickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
(https://twitter.com/EWErickson)✔@EWErickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
Yet another angry dateless feminist upset at Tim Tebow for being pro-life: http://bit.ly/6xqpH3
11:18 AM - 19 Jan 2010 (https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/7952539484)
Erick Erickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
(https://twitter.com/EWErickson)✔@EWErickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
Next the feminist groups will lash out at all the commercials praising manly men. They'll trot out Lorena Bobbit to spade/neuter your man.
7:13 PM - 7 Feb 2010 (https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/8788542907)
Erick Erickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
(https://twitter.com/EWErickson)✔@EWErickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
that's it?!?! That's what the feminazis were enraged over? Seriously?!? Wow. That's what being too ugly to get a date does to your brain
5:45 PM - 7 Feb 2010 (https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/8784700117)
Erick Erickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
(https://twitter.com/EWErickson)✔@EWErickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
All these angry feminists in my timeline today. I thought Sam Alito ordered them all home to make sandwiches this morning.
1:50 PM - 30 Jun 2014 (https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/483684057377959936)
Erick Erickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
(https://twitter.com/EWErickson)✔@EWErickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
First night of the Vagina Monologues in Charlotte going as expected.
7:31 PM - 4 Sep 2012 (https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/243144183529996288)
Erick Erickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
(https://twitter.com/EWErickson)✔@EWErickson (https://twitter.com/EWErickson)
I am proud of myself for pointing out to the Women & Gender Studies students that their major has no real world value.
4:03 PM - 13 Feb 2013 (https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/301813907029385216)
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/08/3689587/erick-erickson-donald-trump/
Warlord23
08-08-2015, 07:00 PM
This Trump saga is hilarious, especially Fox News' situation. For several years Fox along with talk radio and right-leaning websites have been overtly or subtly encouraging the narrative that a possibly Kenyan, possibly Muslim, definitely Marxist and anti-white President has been plotting to destroy America/Christianity/"Real Americans" and impose martial law.
Now their rabid base has gone so far off the reservation that they love Trump more than any GOP Establishment candidate. And Fox has no clue how to deal with it. "True" conservatives are bashing Fox and Megyn Kelly on their own Facebook pages, and denouncing Fox as having become left-wing on sites like Breitbart :lol
hitmanyr2k
08-08-2015, 08:25 PM
I have to laugh at any dullard who thinks Donald Trump is serious about being President. The guy is a great self-promoter and he knows reality TV has taken over the minds of the uninformed cretins of America and he's bringing that style to politics. This is his reality TV show and he's the star. He knows you don't seek the Republican party nomination by displaying intellect and knowledge. That's been proven time and time again. You appeal to the lowest common denominator. How do you appeal to the lowest common denominator? You talk tough. You copy the Kardashian way and say/do anything to keep all eyes on you. When someone asks you a tough question you answer in the dumbest way possible. Trump, how are you going to handle illegal immigration? "Build a wall". Dullards eat that shit up because they want to identify with someone just as stupid as they are. Donald knows this type of psychology exists in the Republican party and he's exploiting it big time. If he actually did somehow win the Republican nomination I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled the greatest troll move of all-time and said something like "I can't believe you morons actually voted me to lead your party" :lol
TheSanityAnnex
08-08-2015, 09:13 PM
I have to laugh at any dullard who thinks Donald Trump is serious about being President. The guy is a great self-promoter and he knows reality TV has taken over the minds of the uninformed cretins of America and he's bringing that style to politics. This is his reality TV show and he's the star. He knows you don't seek the Republican party nomination by displaying intellect and knowledge. That's been proven time and time again. You appeal to the lowest common denominator. How do you appeal to the lowest common denominator? You talk tough. You copy the Kardashian way and say/do anything to keep all eyes on you. When someone asks you a tough question you answer in the dumbest way possible. Trump, how are you going to handle illegal immigration? "Build a wall". Dullards eat that shit up because they want to identify with someone just as stupid as they are. Donald knows this type of psychology exists in the Republican party and he's exploiting it big time. If he actually did somehow win the Republican nomination I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled the greatest troll move of all-time and said something like "I can't believe you morons actually voted me to lead your party" :lol
Nailed it lol
pgardn
08-09-2015, 09:18 AM
The Don doesn't have anything to be ashamed of, tbh. He's speaking the truth about all you politically-correct bleeding-heart faggots.
Politically correct is rapidly becoming the buzz phrase for I can yell "we are under fire" in a crowded theater.
BTw ... You are a Fckn idiot.
ChumpDumper
08-09-2015, 09:28 AM
It's gonna be great to see Trump and his faithful lapdog CN playing the victim in the coming weeks.
Clipper Nation
08-09-2015, 09:35 AM
It's going to be great to see David Fotogrovski del Toros getting upset and triggered every time Trump speaks more truths.
boutons_deux
08-09-2015, 09:57 AM
Trump's policies? How would he run the Exec? who as veep?
what truths is Trump speaking? a catalog for us fans in the stands amused by the Repug Klown Kar.
mingus
08-09-2015, 09:57 AM
At the end of the day, he has to roll out his plans for the country as far as foreign policy, immigration and all the other important issues if he wants to be taken seriously. He doesn't care about political correctness which is an admirable quality to me anyway but he not going to get anywhere on that alone. He's playing softball right now but once he actually has to face tough questions he going to look like a fish out of water because there's truly no substance or pragmatism behind what he's saying. Honestly I think he's just working undercover for Hillary Clinton. Knows he can steal nomination by pandering to the idiots in Republican Party
boutons_deux
08-09-2015, 10:00 AM
I heard one lady, typical Trump asshole, saying essentially "I don't care what he says, because he saying what he believes".
iow, same airy fairy bullshit as Bible humpers. Make up shit, BELIEVE IT!, it doesn't matter WTF it is. God talks to me and He told me to believe it "in my heart of hearts".
hater
08-09-2015, 10:16 AM
Damn the tea baggers are actually supporting Trump even.more now :lmao
:lol GOP in deep trouble :lol
hitmanyr2k
08-09-2015, 10:28 AM
At the end of the day, he has to roll out his plans for the country as far as foreign policy, immigration and all the other important issues if he wants to be taken seriously. He doesn't care about political correctness which is an admirable quality to me anyway but he not going to get anywhere on that alone. He's playing softball right now but once he actually has to face tough questions he going to look like a fish out of water because there's truly no substance or pragmatism behind what he's saying. Honestly I think he's just working undercover for Hillary Clinton. Knows he can steal nomination by pandering to the idiots in Republican Party
I don't think he's working for Hillary. He's a guy in the later stages of his life, has all of this money and is bored out of his fuckin mind. The Apprentice ran its course and he needs a release so why not bring his reality TV schtick to politics and have some fun just trolling everybody and getting attention from the entire nation? Trump knows he couldn't pull this shit running as a Democrat but this stuff works great in a Republican party full of misfits. He screen tested the cretin GOP audience with the Obama birth certificate thing in the last election cycle and liked what he saw. It's obvious Trump doesn't have the first clue about the things he speaks of or how to fix anything but in the Republican party the bar is so low he doesn't need to know anything and he knows it. I really think he's even shocked that he's lasted this long :lol He's been purposely trying to implode for awhile now but Republicans are eating it up.
hater
08-09-2015, 10:33 AM
Agree. And yes he probably has no clue how to fix the country but neither do Bush, Rubio, Perry or most of the rest of the group.
Hell even Hilary sounds like a terrible choice for president. We are fucked :lol
In other words IMO Trump wouldn't be such a huge downgrade over 90% of the field
hater
08-09-2015, 10:35 AM
Tbqh if the choice was between Hilary, Bush or Trump. I'd vote for Trump
Hilary would have to start talking and win me over for me to change my mind. And another Bush??? Fuck no
Trump it is :tu
ChumpDumper
08-09-2015, 12:11 PM
It's going to be great to see David Fotogrovski del Toros getting upset and triggered every time Trump speaks more truths.Aw, David -- I see you're upset. :cry
boutons_deux
08-09-2015, 12:38 PM
Think you're annoyed by Donald Trump? Rand Paul can't believe he's losing the Tea Party to this guy.
Here's a bit of what Paul said to the Berkeley County Republican Party Saturday in Goose Creek, SC, in an effort to cast himself as the true Tea Party conservative.
How could we have tea party conservatives in our country think that somehow Donald Trump’s going to help us.
He’s the consummate insider.
What’s wrong with Washington? People buying and selling politicians. What’s Donald Trump known for? Buying and selling politicians. ...
We are kidding ourselves to even consider someone who is such a chameleon that he’s been on every side of every issue.
Wake up, America.
Wake up, Republicans.
All right, I’m a little bit annoyed.
Here’s the thing.
Does anyone remember when Ross Perot gave us Bill Clinton.
Well, are you ready for Donald Trump to give us Hillary Clinton?
http://www.vox.com/2015/8/8/9121415/Rand-Paul-annoyed-Donald-Trump
Rand Paul! :lol libertarians, libertarianism! :lol
Candidate Rand Paul would shirley "give us Hillary Clinton".
boutons_deux
08-09-2015, 01:49 PM
5 Incredibly Enjoyable Ways Trump Is Destroying the GOP and Delighting the Clintons
1. More Americans saw the unflitered GOP in technicolor than ever.
The debate had the largest audience (http://www.wsj.com/articles/republican-debate-audience-was-the-biggest-ever-for-a-nonsports-cable-event-1438992539) ever for non-sports event on cable—24 million people saw the prime time debate and 6 million the second tier forum. That was because of Trump’s surge in the polls. And boy were they informed! There is no doubt where this party stands on abortion, (If women have to die, so be it!), God, guns, gays, government regulation, war and more.
2. Republicans are now officially at war with themselves.
Hours before Trump’s post-debate tweets resulted in the most amazing spectacle yet — right-wingers attacking (https://shark-tank.com/2015/08/07/fox-news-failed-america-with-their-debate-attacks-on-donald-trump/) Fox News — the big tent of business conservatives tolerating social conservatives collapsed. That happened seconds into the debate, when Trump said he’d consider running as an independent, third-party candidate if he didn’t get the GOP nomination.
The audience reaction (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/07/in-red-america-trumps-third-party-ponderings-arent-welcome/), mixing cheers and boos, set the ensuing tone as various candidates piled on Trump, either praising him (John Kasich) for striking a vein with voters or saying he simply didn’t deserve to be there at all (Rand Paul, Lindsay Graham). Either way, a political firestorm erupted—and it only got worse (http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/08/carly-fiorina-attacks-donald-trump-defends-megyn-kelly/) as the weekend unfolded.
3. Trump’s defenders then started attacking Fox News.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Trump’s defenders quickly took their cues from the candidate himself (http://www.mediaite.com/online/donald-trump-retweets-sexist-attack-on-megyn-kelly/) and joined him on pouncing on moderator Megyn Kelly who dared confront Trump on a long history of very public sexist and mysognist comments: basically, is it presidential to be a male chauvinist pig in 2015?
To which, Trump replied (http://time.com/3988276/republican-debate-primetime-transcript-full-text/) he was sorry if he offended her irrelevant politically correct sensibilities. But just savor this moment: Fox News is now getting attacked by a good slice of its audience for going after a racist, sexist pig. Let’s repeat that: Republicans are now attacking Fox News.
4. Then the right-wingers started attacking each other.
This is even more amazing to behold. As everyone watching the news knows, Trump went further and suggested that maybe Megyn Kelly was unduly hormonal (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-had-blood-coming-out-of-her-wherever_55c55a97e4b0923c12bd079c) when she eagerly questioned his misogyny before a national audience. That prompted the organizer of the next big GOP event, Erick Erickson and his Red State summit, to disinvite Trump. (He later attacked (http://www.eonline.com/news/684556/donald-trump-clarifies-megyn-kelly-blood-comment-and-adds-only-a-deviant-would-think-anything-else) him and others for having dirty minds and misinterpreting the tweets.)
It gets even better, because, of course, other GOP candidates stood behind Erickson’s we-can’t-have-that-slob-be-our-nominee line in the sand. But at the event Saturday, Erickson was reading tweets from Trump supporters (http://www.redstate.com/diary/freedomrepublican/2015/07/17/trump-right-read-support-president/) on his big stage, which, CNN eagerly carried nationwide. And what did it mean besides showing their love of the Donald—and how the party has a serious racist, nativist, mysognist wing?
Ponder this: for years, Erickson and his ilk have tried to promote the radical right as a legitimate part of the GOP. But by reading those tweets, Erickson is helping to destroy the very movement of crazies that he helped build. For political junkies, this is more delicious than Tiramisu at the White House!
5. Hillary is loving this, but Bernie not so much.
Could all of this started with a slight prod from the political world’s Elvis Presley (http://www.avclub.com/review/greil-marcus-idouble-trouble-bill-clinton-and-elvi-6613), a nod from Bill Clinton? It’s hard to say but you can be sure that Hillary Clinton is one of the happiest people in American right now.
The new Donald show has not only taken her out of the spotlight, which only helps in a still very long campaign, but it also eclipses the Bernie surge. Bernie may be drawing the biggest crowds on the Democratic side, but the Republican Party’s uncivil war is a truly remarkable, and eminently coverable, news event and gift that keeps on giving.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/5-incredibly-enjoyable-ways-trump-destroying-gop-and-delighting-clintons
boutons_deux
08-09-2015, 02:26 PM
Donald Trump: Jeb Bush Is The One Who Insults Women
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said Sunday that he would be the “exact opposite” of rival Jeb Bush (R) on women’s health because “I cherish women.” Earlier in the week, Bush said that he wasn’t sure (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/05/3688257/jeb-bush-womens-issues-not-so-far-off/) “we need a half a billion dollars for women’s health issues.”
State of the Union host Jake Tapper on asked the billionaire real estate mogul about a demand by the former Florida governor that Trump apologize for seemingly suggesting that Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly had been menstruating during the Republican presidential debate. Trump instead attacked Bush, likening his remarks on women’s health to 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney’s 47 percent gaffe (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/07/mitt-romney-47-percent-denial).
“I think it’s amazing because three days ago, he was talking so negatively about women’s health issues,” Trump said. “And I thought it was disgraceful frankly. And I think that will go down to haunt him and maybe be the same as Romney’s 47 percent, which possibly cost him the election. Jeb was very negative on women’s health and when you’re negative on women’s health, you can forget about it. I’m the exact opposite. I cherish women. I want to help women. I want to do things for women that no other candidates can do.”
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/09/3689641/donald-trump-jeb-bush-sexism/
Clipper Nation
08-09-2015, 02:45 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/yTTx8lB.jpg
SocialJusticeWarrior
08-09-2015, 02:48 PM
Donald Trump: Jeb Bush Is The One Who Insults Women
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said Sunday that he would be the “exact opposite” of rival Jeb Bush (R) on women’s health because “I cherish women.” Earlier in the week, Bush said that he wasn’t sure (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/05/3688257/jeb-bush-womens-issues-not-so-far-off/) “we need a half a billion dollars for women’s health issues.”
State of the Union host Jake Tapper on asked the billionaire real estate mogul about a demand by the former Florida governor that Trump apologize for seemingly suggesting that Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly had been menstruating during the Republican presidential debate. Trump instead attacked Bush, likening his remarks on women’s health to 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney’s 47 percent gaffe (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/07/mitt-romney-47-percent-denial).
“I think it’s amazing because three days ago, he was talking so negatively about women’s health issues,” Trump said. “And I thought it was disgraceful frankly. And I think that will go down to haunt him and maybe be the same as Romney’s 47 percent, which possibly cost him the election. Jeb was very negative on women’s health and when you’re negative on women’s health, you can forget about it. I’m the exact opposite. I cherish women. I want to help women. I want to do things for women that no other candidates can do.”
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/09/3689641/donald-trump-jeb-bush-sexism/
Why don't you support the only candidate who's serious about women's health issues, you misogynist cis-male scum? Vote for Trump or you hate women!
angrydude
08-09-2015, 03:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP6S3KE2DaI
Surprised no one has posted this.
ducks
08-09-2015, 04:44 PM
NBC Poll: Trump Up Again, Holds 10-Point Lead After Debate
http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/669251
boutons_deux
08-09-2015, 04:50 PM
NBC Poll: Trump Up Again, Holds 10-Point Lead After Debate
http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/669251
... Carson in 2nd shows how screwed up you rightwingnuts in the Repug base are. Fiorina, too? :lol
Clipper Nation
08-09-2015, 06:00 PM
... Carson in 2nd shows how screwed up you rightwingnuts in the Repug base are. Fiorina, too? :lol
So you're against a black candidate and a female candidate succeeding in the polls?
boutons_deux
08-09-2015, 06:03 PM
So you're against a black candidate and a female candidate succeeding in the polls?
doesn't matter what color they are, these two have NO CHANCE to run the US Exec branch, or even get the nomination, so these egoists should have as much fun as they can for now.
hater
08-09-2015, 06:26 PM
told u so niggas. Teabaggers got a hardon for Trump :lol
its gonna be a long primaries for GOPers :lol :lmao
DarrinS
08-09-2015, 06:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP6S3KE2DaI
Surprised no one has posted this.
This has to be a joke
Splits
08-09-2015, 08:07 PM
I have to laugh at any dullard who thinks Donald Trump is serious about being President. The guy is a great self-promoter and he knows reality TV has taken over the minds of the uninformed cretins of America and he's bringing that style to politics. This is his reality TV show and he's the star. He knows you don't seek the Republican party nomination by displaying intellect and knowledge. That's been proven time and time again. You appeal to the lowest common denominator. How do you appeal to the lowest common denominator? You talk tough. You copy the Kardashian way and say/do anything to keep all eyes on you. When someone asks you a tough question you answer in the dumbest way possible. Trump, how are you going to handle illegal immigration? "Build a wall". Dullards eat that shit up because they want to identify with someone just as stupid as they are. Donald knows this type of psychology exists in the Republican party and he's exploiting it big time. If he actually did somehow win the Republican nomination I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled the greatest troll move of all-time and said something like "I can't believe you morons actually voted me to lead your party" :lol
I don't think he's working for Hillary. He's a guy in the later stages of his life, has all of this money and is bored out of his fuckin mind. The Apprentice ran its course and he needs a release so why not bring his reality TV schtick to politics and have some fun just trolling everybody and getting attention from the entire nation? Trump knows he couldn't pull this shit running as a Democrat but this stuff works great in a Republican party full of misfits. He screen tested the cretin GOP audience with the Obama birth certificate thing in the last election cycle and liked what he saw. It's obvious Trump doesn't have the first clue about the things he speaks of or how to fix anything but in the Republican party the bar is so low he doesn't need to know anything and he knows it. I really think he's even shocked that he's lasted this long :lol He's been purposely trying to implode for awhile now but Republicans are eating it up.
damn dude, spot on
boutons_deux
08-10-2015, 09:44 AM
8 Skeletons in Donald Trump's Closet That Reveal a Life-Long Dedication to Being the Biggest Jerk Possible
Lesson He Learned From Punching His Music Teacher: In a book he wrote in 1987, Trump admitted to punching his music teacher in the second grade. While many would look back at such an event as immature furor, Trump didn't seem reflective about it at all: “In the second grade...I punched my music teacher because I didn’t think he knew anything about music....I’m not proud of that, but it’s clear evidence that even early on I had a tendency to stand up and make my opinions known in a very forceful way
Instant Missile Expertise: “It would take an hour and a half to learn everything there is to learn about missiles,” Trump boasted. “I think I know most of it anyway.” He claimed he should be in charge of nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union.
Less Than Perfect Understanding of the Working Class: Trump claimed that electricians “make a hundred and some odd dollars an hour. The concrete people just make fortunes. Laborers make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.”
Attacking Lawyers for Stopping His Unlawful Evictions: A group of lawyers defended tenants at one Trump property who claimed they were being unlawfully evicted. When the courts sided with the tenants, Trump tried to launch a racketeering lawsuit against the lawyers, claiming they were trying to “prevent, frustrate, and inhibit” him from making profits. The courts dismissed Trump's case.
Exploiting the Homeless, Bashing Refugees: Trump offered to put homeless tenants in his Central Park South building in a bid to try to drive the current tenants out so he could tear the whole thing down. The city offered to put Polish refugees there, but Trump countered he'd only allow “people who live in America now, not refugees.”
Bashing Ronald Reagan: Although not particularly crazy sounding, this may be a crazy thing for a leader in the polls of the Republican presidential primary to say. He compared rival developers to Ronald Reagan because they were “people who talk a good game but don't deliver.”
Telling the World African Americans Have It Easy: Spy quoted Trump telling reporters in 1989, “If I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.”
Blaming Other People For His Business Failings: In the early 1990s, Trump made a deal with Poland's tourism minister to build a series of “hotels, shops and gambling casinos in Warsaw,” but two years after the $55 million payment was made, ground wasn't even broken. “They've been patient? I've been patient,” said Trump. “Did you ever try to get quality marble in Warsaw? It's pathetic.”
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/8-skeletons-donald-trumps-closet-reveal-life-long-dedication-being-biggest-jerk?akid=13369.187590.LT9obf&rd=1&src=newsletter1040656&t=5
boutons_deux
08-10-2015, 01:21 PM
Trump: Megyn Kelly Should Apologize To Me — And I’m The ‘Pure’ One
Trump called in to MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Monday, and said that it’s Kelly who should be apologizing to him — and that the whole story has been obviously rebounding to his benefit, anyway.
“My whole life has been led on the theory that I do not want to embarrass people. :lol
The fact is that I think I don’t think I get treated well by Fox — and that’s all right, because look what happens. I don’t understand it myself — I mean, I have double-digit leads in every poll.”
He also added: “You know it’s like, a lot of good things are happening. So maybe I should just leave it the way it is.”
“The fact is,” he continued, “she asked me a very inappropriate question. She should really be apologizing to me, you want to know the truth.”
Trump also described Kelly’s inquiry as a “stupid question” and “gibberish.”
http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-megyn-kelly-should-apologize-to-me-and-im-the-pure-one/
Menstruating women in many cultures are considered to be "impure"
ducks
08-10-2015, 04:18 PM
trump!The share of Republican primary voters who say they view Trump favorably also increased since from 57 percent to 62 percent, though he continues to have a 52 percent unfavorable rating.
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/GOP-Debate-Megyn-Kelly/2015/08/10/id/669397/#ixzz3iRuqBrtW
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he just keeps going up and up and up
Clipper Nation
08-10-2015, 04:31 PM
630764447716540417
Damn, all it took was a couple appearances on CNN and FOX came crawling back to Trump with their tail between their legs.
hater
08-10-2015, 06:01 PM
:lmao Trump playing the GOP and mainstream media lime a fiddle :lol
They don't know what the fuck to do about it :lol
It's funny when the "experts" don't know what to say about this :lol
spurraider21
08-10-2015, 06:54 PM
Trump's policies? How would he run the Exec? who as veep?
high stakes version of The Apprentice, imo
Clipper Nation
08-10-2015, 07:01 PM
Fuck a VP, Trump can do it himself. Trump/Trump 2016!
Clipper Nation
08-10-2015, 07:38 PM
630898742707798017
Deport all the illegals, including LkrFan.
LkrFan
08-10-2015, 08:03 PM
630898742707798017
Deport all the illegals, including LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824).
:lmao
Clipper Nation
08-10-2015, 08:37 PM
:lmao
Laugh it up, Berto, but your days of living off the taxpayer dime without a green card are over with the Trump administration. :downspin:
Blizzardwizard
08-10-2015, 08:47 PM
630898742707798017
Deport all the illegals, including LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824).
Dey took er jerbssss!!!! :cry
Clipper Nation
08-10-2015, 08:48 PM
Dey took er jerbssss!!!! :cry
You do realize that Bernie's only sane opinion is that he wants closed borders, right?
boutons_deux
08-10-2015, 08:52 PM
You do realize that Bernie's only sane opinion is that he wants closed borders, right?
"get them out" is more than closing the borders, it's BOXCAR time.
Blizzardwizard
08-10-2015, 08:53 PM
You do realize that Bernie's only sane opinion is that he wants closed borders, right?
He doesn't want closed borders. Criticising open borders is not the same thing as wanting closed borders..
LkrFan
08-10-2015, 09:06 PM
Laugh it up, Berto, but your days of living off the taxpayer dime without a green card are over with the Trump administration. :downspin:
:lol
De ninguna manera el hijo. Donald Trump es mi negro. ¡Charla honesta! :lol
boutons_deux
08-10-2015, 09:08 PM
He doesn't want closed borders. Criticising open borders is not the same thing as wanting closed borders..
the MX border isn't "open" and he wants to "get them out" and build a wall.
Blizzardwizard
08-10-2015, 09:56 PM
the MX border isn't "open" and he wants to "get them out" and build a wall.
Bernie said that? Or are you talking about Trump?
ducks
08-10-2015, 11:46 PM
Trump said he was also sure of his victory because several of his rivals told him that he beat them.
"Four of the candidates came up to me and said, 'You crushed it tonight. You won,'" Trump claimed.
boutons_deux
08-11-2015, 06:32 AM
5 ways Donald Trump is blatantly sabotaging his own party
1. More Americans saw the unflitered GOP in technicolor than ever before.
The debate had the largest audience (http://www.wsj.com/articles/republican-debate-audience-was-the-biggest-ever-for-a-nonsports-cable-event-1438992539) ever for non-sports event on cable—24 million people saw the primetime debate and 6 million the second tier forum. That was because of Trump’s surge in the polls. And boy were they informed! There is no doubt where this party stands on abortion (if women have to die, so be it!), god, guns, gays, government regulation, war and more.
2. Republicans are now officially at war with themselves.
Hours before Trump’s post-debate tweets resulted in the most amazing spectacle yet (right-wingersattacking (https://shark-tank.com/2015/08/07/fox-news-failed-america-with-their-debate-attacks-on-donald-trump/) Fox News), the big tent of business conservatives tolerating social conservatives collapsed. That happened seconds into the debate, when Trump said he’d consider running as an independent, third-party candidate if he didn’t get the GOP nomination. The audience reaction (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/07/in-red-america-trumps-third-party-ponderings-arent-welcome/), mixing cheers and boos, set the ensuing tone as various candidates piled on Trump, either praising him for striking a vein with voters (John Kasich) or saying he didn’t deserve to be there at all (Rand Paul, Lindsey Graham). Either way, a political firestorm erupted, and it only got worse (http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/08/carly-fiorina-attacks-donald-trump-defends-megyn-kelly/) as the weekend unfolded.
3. Trump’s defenders started attacking Fox News.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Trump’s defenders quickly took their cues from the candidate himself (http://www.mediaite.com/online/donald-trump-retweets-sexist-attack-on-megyn-kelly/) and joined him in pouncing on moderator Megyn Kelly, who dared confront Trump on his long history of very public sexist and misogynist comments: basically, is it presidential to be a male chauvinist pig in 2015? To which Trump replied (http://time.com/3988276/republican-debate-primetime-transcript-full-text/) he was sorry if he offended her irrelevant politically correct sensibilities. But just savor this moment: Fox News is now being attacked by a good slice of its audience for going after a racist, sexist pig. Let’s repeat that: Republicans are now attacking Fox News.
4. The right-wingers started attacking each other.
This is even more amazing to behold. As everyone watching the news knows, Trump went further and suggested that maybe Megyn Kelly was unduly hormonal (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-had-blood-coming-out-of-her-wherever_55c55a97e4b0923c12bd079c) when she eagerly questioned his misogyny before a national audience. That prompted the organizer of the next big GOP event, Erick Erickson and his Red State summit, to disinvite Trump. (Trump laterattacked (http://www.eonline.com/news/684556/donald-trump-clarifies-megyn-kelly-blood-comment-and-adds-only-a-deviant-would-think-anything-else) Erickson and others for having dirty minds and misinterpreting the tweets.)
It gets even better, because, of course, other GOP candidates stood behind Erickson’s we-can’t-have-that-slob-be-our-nominee line in the sand. But at the event Saturday, Erickson was reading tweets from Trump supporters (http://www.redstate.com/diary/freedomrepublican/2015/07/17/trump-right-read-support-president/) on his big stage, which CNN eagerly carried nationwide. And what did it mean besides showing their love of the Donald and how the party has a serious racist, nativist, misogynist wing?
Ponder this: for years, Erickson and his ilk have tried to promote the radical right as a legitimate part of the GOP. But by reading those tweets, Erickson is helping to destroy the very movement of crazies he helped build. For political junkies, this is more delicious than tiramisu at the White House!
5. Hillary is loving this, but Bernie not so much.
Could all of this have started with a slight prod from the political world’s Elvis Presley (http://www.avclub.com/review/greil-marcus-idouble-trouble-bill-clinton-and-elvi-6613), a nod from Bill Clinton? It’s hard to say, but you can be sure Hillary Clinton is one of the happiest people in America right now. The new Donald show has not only taken her out of the spotlight, which only helps in a still very long campaign, but it also eclipses the Bernie surge. Bernie may be drawing the biggest crowds on the Democratic side, but the Republican Party’s uncivil war is a truly remarkable and eminently coverable news event, and a gift that keeps on giving.
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/11/5_ways_donald_trump_is_blatantly_sabotaging_his_ow n_party_partner/
hater
08-11-2015, 07:09 AM
He's running circles around each and every other candidate :lol
Can't even imagine what hell do to shillary :lol
Trump trumps
hater
08-11-2015, 07:28 AM
John McCain is a veteran, a hero, that is a stretch. Depending on which source you believe, McCain could have been responsible for the fire on the USS Forrestal in 1967. He has voted at least 22 times against legislation to help veterans or to properly equip troops fighting in the Middle East. He is a RINO and an establishment republican. He seems to think fighting wars constantly is a good thing, regardless of the cost in American lives and treasure. Donald Trump lacks tact and diplomacy, that is what appeals to people. He's not a politician and it seems the mainstream media and the GOP are afraid of him. Neither party wants to rock the boat and both parties are sprinting for an inevitable economic collapse. Maybe Trump deserves a chance to do something different, because we KNOW the politicians are either too incompetent to prevent our demise or complicit in bringing it about.
Well said
Spurminator
08-11-2015, 09:40 AM
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/with-donald-trumps-rise-fox-news-reaps-what-it-sows/400973/?utm_source=SFFB
With Donald Trump's Rise, Fox News Reaps What It Sows
The cable news network that trained its audience to see media criticism of Republican politicians as evidence of bias is attacked for its coverage of Trump.
Fox News’ coverage of Donald Trump’s campaign has resembled the treatment that the real estate tycoon and reality TV star receives in “the mainstream media.” It is unlike the network’s coverage of unqualified populist favorites from past election cycles, like Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and Herman Cain. And populists are taking notice.
Last week’s debate is a fine illustration.
Immediately after the candidates left the stage in Cleveland, Ohio, Fox News moderator and anchor Megyn Kelly threw the network’s coverage over to pollster Frank Luntz, who stood in a room with a small group of voters gathered to offer their impressions. “Megyn, we’re about to make some news tonight,” he said as he turned to the panel. His meaning quickly became apparent: Under questioning, most of the assembled voters revealed that they felt unfavorably about Trump’s performance.
“You know what happened?” one man said. “I liked him when I came in here, because he wasn’t a politician. But right now, he skirted around questions better than a lifelong politician ever had.” Said another, “I was really expecting him to do a lot better, but he just crashed and burned. He was mean, he was angry, he had no specifics, he was bombastic.” A third voter declared, “You know, he just let me down. I just expected him to rise to the occasion and look presidential. He didn’t.”
The reactions were confounding to me, even though they squared with the conventional wisdom that Trump’s demeanor had finally inflicted a fatal wound on his presidential prospects.
I’d watched the debate. For most of it, I thought that Donald Trump would emerge as popular as ever: I don’t understand his appeal, but his performance was completely in keeping with the style and substance of his campaign to that point. Why did the handpicked Republicans disagree? Had I been in the room with them, I’d have asked, “If you came here as a Donald Trump supporter, how could you possibly be disappointed by tonight’s anger, bombast, blatant question-skirting, and a lack of specifics? When have you known the man to act differently?”
As I switched off the TV, I thought of two possibilities: Either I understood Trump supporters less well than I thought, or Fox News had assembled a wildly unrepresentative panel that misrepresented the reaction to Trump’s performance.
Come Monday, I was no longer puzzled.
“There is no sign that Donald Trump's raucous first presidential debate is hurting his support among party voters,” Reuters reported (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/10/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0QF1WL20150810), “with the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll showing he still has a big lead over his rivals for the Republican presidential nomination. The debate did little to change Republican voters' opinions of Trump, the poll found. One-third said they liked him more after the debate, one-third said they liked him less, and the remaining third said their opinions had not changed.”
An unrepresentative Fox News panel does not raise my suspicions. Like other cable news channels, the network offers political coverage that isn’t particularly rigorous, and pollster Frank Luntz has gotten far more consequential matters wrong before. But the hard right has always been more inclined to attribute media missteps to conspiracy rather than incompetence. Now it’s suspicious of Fox News.
“They took advantage of us,” talk radio host Mark Levin told (http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/09/mark-levin-fox-news-megyn-kelly-hosted-a-national-enquirer-debate-not-a-republican-debate-owe-american-people-an-apology/) Breitbart, “they took advantage of the audience.” Steve Deace declared in USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/08/07/jeb-rand-fiorina-fox-debate-column/31278581/) that “very few conservatives I interacted with during and after the debate thought Fox was ‘fair and balanced.’”
The most popular entertainer in the conservative movement, talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh, speculated (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/08/07/the_orders_to_take_out_trump_must_have_gone_to_fox _not_the_other_candidates) on Friday that the Republican Party establishment had conspired with Fox News, ordering the network to “take out” Trump. In another segment (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/08/07/my_initial_thoughts_on_the_debates), he criticized the debate moderators. “If I didn't know any better,” he said, “I would have watched this thing thinking that there is a Republican War on Women based on the questions and the lack of a woman being on the stage among the 10. I thought the War on Women was a Democrat creation by George Stephanopoulos. The last place I ever thought I would see it continued is Fox News.”
In a CNN interview, Trump either implied or accidentally seemed to imply that Kelly treated him angrily during the debate because she was menstruating at the time. Said fellow GOP candidate Carly Fiorina in a tweet: “Mr. Trump: There. Is. No. Excuse.” Fiorina would continue to attack Trump and to voice her support for Kelly.
Afterwards, a caller to Rush Limbaugh’s show responded:
Rush, it's an honor. Thank you for taking my call, and mega dittos. I'm calling in regard to Carly Fiorina and her support in her tweet to where she clearly stated, “I stand with Megyn.” She tweeted that, Rush. And, you know what, in my book, you stand up with the media or for the media, you are now part of the media. If you align yourself personally with the media, you are now part of the media. And, Rush, she has clearly played straight into the hand of the media, and there is no way I want my president to send out little tweets in support of the media. I'm just outraged.
Note that there is no distinction made between the Fox News Channel and “the mainstream media” or “the liberal media” or what Rush Limbaugh calls “the drive-by media.” There’s just “the media.” Kelly is a part of it. She is therefore the enemy, her attackers are allies, and those who stand with her are useful idiots at best.
I rarely agree with Limbaugh. But I think he was right when he said about Trump: “There's a percentage of the population that is totally fed up with the political class, including the media. And they have wanted things said to people and about people… for years and they haven't heard it. I mean, the media is not loved. The media in some cases is despised, and Trump is giving it right back to 'em in ways that many people in this country have dreamed of happening.”
“As such,” the radio star said of the former NBC host, “he comes off as refreshing. Even when he's not on message, or not on issues, he comes across as somebody that says things they would like to say … things they have hoped others would say ... I don't think a lot of these big players, including in the media, have any idea who their audiences are … I don't think they have the slightest idea the size of and the amount of real anger directed at them … It goes so far beyond the fact that they're biased.”
Consider the Fox News debate as Donald Trump fans experienced it. Wouldn’t you wager that Kelly, Chris Wallace and Bret Baier all believe that Trump’s candidacy is a joke and that his supporters are naive and misguided? Didn’t their questions seem to imply that Trump is obviously unfit to be president?
Meanwhile, hasn’t Fox News spent years conditioning viewers to believe that journalists belong to a condescending class of decadent elites which engages in barely-concealed conspiracies to destroy anyone who tells it like it is to real Americans? For years, Roger Ailes broadcast everything that Glenn Beck wrote on a chalk board! Surveying America for individuals whose insights he would broadcast to the masses, he settled on Sarah Palin as a person whose analysis he would amplify. It is no accident that a chunk of the Fox News audience is now inclined to side with Trump over Kelly. With Trump’s rise, the network is reaping what it has sown.
Of course, I agree with the Fox anchors about Trump, assuming I’m reading them right. I think he is unqualified to be president; that his supporters are naive and misguided; and that they would abandon him immediately if they knew what was good for them. But there’s one sense in which I’ll show Trump supporters more respect than many in the media. I won’t pretend to think that they should stop supporting Trump because of his remarks about Rosie O’Donnell or John McCain or Megyn Kelly. Sure, in every case, I find the man’s comments beyond distasteful, but let’s be honest: If he’d never said any of those things, I’d still be horrified by his rise to the top of the Republican field, and so would the vast majority of his media critics.
Better to be forthright.
Trump is unfit to be president because he has no experience in government; because he cynically stokes xenophobia for political gain; because he has given voters every reason to believe that he would put his own selfish interests above the country’s interests; because he has demonstrated no firm grasp of public policy in any area; and because his boastfulness, bombast, and petty insults are signs of insecurity, not confidence. It would be dangerous to put such an apparently insecure man in a position of power.
In the next debate, those are the areas that moderators ought to probe, not the far less interesting and more easily deflected subject of whatever off-color insult he last uttered, as if it is more relevant than his glaring flaws on matters of huge importance.
Perhaps engaging Trump supporters on substantive points would be fruitful; perhaps not. Either way, hoping that off-the-cuff comments about a McCain or a Kelly will discredit him—and play-acting as if that is the source of the dismay at his rise—isn’t working. Populists see through it. And they believe, sometimes correctly, that elites talk about them in ways that are equally insulting without ever having to apologize. Trump may yet implode. And I don’t see any way for him to win a general election. But if he doesn’t implode and GOP elites want to keep him from becoming their nominee or a third-party spoiler, they’ll need to offer winning arguments as to why he’s unqualified to a base that they’ve trained to be immune to media persuasion.
Karma is a Trump.
CosmicCowboy
08-11-2015, 09:41 AM
That is really a stupid article.
hater
08-11-2015, 09:43 AM
Spamming the Donald's threads are not helping your cause haters :lol
CosmicCowboy
08-11-2015, 09:52 AM
:lol when a Liberal quotes Mark Levin as a valid source which he would totally disregard on any other subject but Fox News. Pathetic.
boutons_deux
08-11-2015, 09:52 AM
That is really a stupid article.
Fox allowed the rise of Trump, has had him on dozens of times, let him spew, now they've got their very own Frankenstein monster making a (bigger) joke of the Repug Klown Kar.
btw, Rubio is 100% against abortion for any reason (let both mother and fetus die, rape, incest babies go full term), but his solution is morning-after pill, but Repugs/Christian Taliban call that abortion.
SpursforSix
08-11-2015, 09:57 AM
Fox allowed the rise of Trump, has had him on dozens of times, let him spew, now they've got their very own Frankenstein monster making a (bigger) joke of the Repug Klown Kar.
btw, Rubio is 100% against abortion for any reason (let both mother and fetus die, rape, incest babies go full term), but his solution is morning-after pill, but Repugs/Christian Taliban call that abortion.
LOL. No. Obama allowed the rise of Trump. So you get what you get. I have no idea how Trump would do in the white house. But whatever he would do, it wouldn't be worse than the current administration.
If Trump becomes president, feel free to use any of the "Thanks Obama" gifs.
CosmicCowboy
08-11-2015, 10:35 AM
Fox allowed the rise of Trump, has had him on dozens of times, let him spew, now they've got their very own Frankenstein monster making a (bigger) joke of the Repug Klown Kar.
btw, Rubio is 100% against abortion for any reason (let both mother and fetus die, rape, incest babies go full term), but his solution is morning-after pill, but Repugs/Christian Taliban call that abortion.
Stupid fuck. Trumps been on the major networks, CNN, MSNBC, etc. too. He is an equal opportunity blowhard. Fox didn't "create" Trump.
boutons_deux
08-11-2015, 10:35 AM
http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2015/07/donald-ivana-trump-divorce-prenup-marie-brenner
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20116915,00.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html
I remember Trump being trashed as a cheap, cheating chump for frantically trying to reduce is wealth so divorce from Ivana wouldn't cost him so much.
SpursforSix
08-11-2015, 10:37 AM
I remember Trump being trashed as a cheap, cheating chump for frantically trying to reduce is wealth so divorce from Ivana wouldn't cost him so much.
I remember Obama being touted as the Transparent President for Hope and Change.
CosmicCowboy
08-11-2015, 10:41 AM
I remember Obama being touted as the Transparent President for Hope and Change.
Don't forget he was going to stop the oceans from rising!
SpursforSix
08-11-2015, 10:44 AM
Don't forget he was going to stop the oceans from rising!
He's got about 2 years to finish that.
boutons_deux
08-11-2015, 10:45 AM
you guys got nothing on Obama
hater
08-11-2015, 10:47 AM
you guys got nothing on Obama
Yup. Last 7 years speak for themselves :lol
Spurminator
08-11-2015, 10:53 AM
:lol when a Liberal quotes Mark Levin as a valid source which he would totally disregard on any other subject but Fox News. Pathetic.
:wtf
He's quoting Mark Levin to show conservative reaction. Same reason he's quoting Rush Limbaugh. That's the point of the article. It's not about a "valid source," these are quotes from conservative opinion-makers. Do you deny that there are a lot of FOX News viewers and conservatives who didn't like the way Trump was treated in the debate?
RandomGuy
08-11-2015, 11:57 AM
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/with-donald-trumps-rise-fox-news-reaps-what-it-sows/400973/?utm_source=SFFB
With Donald Trump's Rise, Fox News Reaps What It Sows
The cable news network that trained its audience to see media criticism of Republican politicians as evidence of bias is attacked for its coverage of Trump.
Fox News’ coverage of Donald Trump’s campaign has resembled the treatment that the real estate tycoon and reality TV star receives in “the mainstream media.” It is unlike the network’s coverage of unqualified populist favorites from past election cycles, like Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and Herman Cain. And populists are taking notice.
Last week’s debate is a fine illustration.
Immediately after the candidates left the stage in Cleveland, Ohio, Fox News moderator and anchor Megyn Kelly threw the network’s coverage over to pollster Frank Luntz, who stood in a room with a small group of voters gathered to offer their impressions. “Megyn, we’re about to make some news tonight,” he said as he turned to the panel. His meaning quickly became apparent: Under questioning, most of the assembled voters revealed that they felt unfavorably about Trump’s performance.
“You know what happened?” one man said. “I liked him when I came in here, because he wasn’t a politician. But right now, he skirted around questions better than a lifelong politician ever had.” Said another, “I was really expecting him to do a lot better, but he just crashed and burned. He was mean, he was angry, he had no specifics, he was bombastic.” A third voter declared, “You know, he just let me down. I just expected him to rise to the occasion and look presidential. He didn’t.”
The reactions were confounding to me, even though they squared with the conventional wisdom that Trump’s demeanor had finally inflicted a fatal wound on his presidential prospects.
...
Perhaps engaging Trump supporters on substantive points would be fruitful; perhaps not. Either way, hoping that off-the-cuff comments about a McCain or a Kelly will discredit him—and play-acting as if that is the source of the dismay at his rise—isn’t working. Populists see through it. And they believe, sometimes correctly, that elites talk about them in ways that are equally insulting without ever having to apologize. Trump may yet implode. And I don’t see any way for him to win a general election. But if he doesn’t implode and GOP elites want to keep him from becoming their nominee or a third-party spoiler, they’ll need to offer winning arguments as to why he’s unqualified to a base that they’ve trained to be immune to media persuasion.
Karma is a Trump.
On the whole a fair analysis. Fox news viewers don't want to know what is wrong with their candidates. The fact that they got asked things that they would have to answer in a general election is a bad thing.
They want cardboard cutouts that parrot the right things to say, and never get asked the hard questions that a decent, conscientious voter would ask.
RandomGuy
08-11-2015, 11:58 AM
That is really a stupid article.
How? Specifically?
boutons_deux
08-11-2015, 02:16 PM
http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/large/public/sorensen_on_trump.png
boutons_deux
08-11-2015, 02:20 PM
Bristol Palin backs Trump, slams Fox News president for saying he only hired her mom because she was ‘hot’
http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/palins_facebook-800x430.jpg
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/bristol-palin-backs-trump-slams-fox-news-president-for-saying-he-only-hired-her-mom-because-she-was-hot/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Donny's support really ramping up!
Clipper Nation
08-11-2015, 02:20 PM
http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/large/public/sorensen_on_trump.png
Don't forget Trump Presidential (formerly known as the White House).
SpursforSix
08-11-2015, 02:29 PM
On the whole a fair analysis. Fox news viewers don't want to know what is wrong with their candidates. The fact that they got asked things that they would have to answer in a general election is a bad thing.
They want cardboard cutouts that parrot the right things to say, and never get asked the hard questions that a decent, conscientious voter would ask.
I don't know how they were able to assemble that retarded a group of people to monitor for the debate. It was proof enough to me that Fox News isn't biased.
boutons_deux
08-11-2015, 02:42 PM
"proof enough to me that Fox News isn't biased."
holy shit! :lol
the debate was BUSINESS activity for Fox, selling corporate ads to 24M viewers. Fox knows one of these Klowns will be the candidate, they don't really care which one.
multi-year, money-polluted USA elections are BUSINESSES masquerading as democracy.
http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016-debate-schedule/2016-republican-primary-debate-schedule/
SpursforSix
08-11-2015, 02:51 PM
"proof enough to me that Fox News isn't biased."
holy shit! :lol
the debate was BUSINESS activity for Fox, selling corporate ads to 24M viewers. Fox knows one of these Klowns will be the candidate, they don't really care which one.
multi-year, money-polluted USA elections are BUSINESSES masquerading as democracy.
http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016-debate-schedule/2016-republican-primary-debate-schedule/
You expect a network to not try to make money? That has nothing to do with them being biased to any agenda.
My point was that if they wanted to cast the average Republican in a positive light, they could have done a better job of selecting their panel.
boutons_deux
08-11-2015, 02:54 PM
You expect a network to not try to make money? That has nothing to do with them being biased to any agenda.
My point was that if they wanted to cast the average Republican in a positive light, they could have done a better job of selecting their panel.
you mean the panel of questioners? you don't think Ailes didn't know about the questions?
Fox is biased to the Repug/VRWC agenda: get Repugs elected at all levels everywhere.
SpursforSix
08-11-2015, 03:04 PM
you mean the panel of questioners? you don't think Ailes didn't know about the questions?
Fox is biased to the Repug/VRWC agenda: get Repugs elected at all levels everywhere.
No. The public panel that they were questioning and monitoring about how the debate went.
CosmicCowboy
08-11-2015, 03:36 PM
you mean the panel of questioners? you don't think Ailes didn't know about the questions?
Fox is biased to the Repug/VRWC agenda: get Repugs elected at all levels everywhere.
if you claim this then you have to acknowledge that all the other networks are biased to the Democrat agenda.
CosmicCowboy
08-11-2015, 03:59 PM
Had to laugh
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/1514623_10153045757291700_2536946718633838049_n.jp g?oh=1b6f8e9fd8d74da8f28c47fe32bf1340&oe=56380697
boutons_deux
08-11-2015, 04:18 PM
Swan Song for the Donald? GOP Party Bosses Plan to “Take Out” Trump (http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/10/swan-song-for-the-donald-gop-party-bosses-plan-to-take-out-trump/)
In one short 20-second exchange, the brash Trump revealed the quid pro quo that assures that the coffers at both the Democrat and Republican headquarters remain full-to-the-brim. He said:
“I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me. And that’s a broken system.”
Dear reader, there are things you can say in America and there are things you cannot say. You can criticize the government, support torture, applaud the racist arrest and incarceration immigrants looking for work, and cheerlead the bombing of civilians in the many countries around the world where the US has launched its vicious wars of aggression.
But you cannot stand in front of an audience of 24 million Americans on national Television and explain in excruciating detail how the political system really works, how the tycoons and moguls pay for favors from the sock-puppet politicians, how the politicians do whatever they are told to do, and why the system is a complete and utter fraud.
The people who own the system will not allow that, after all, it is their system, a system which they created, which they control, and that provides the very foundation upon which their wealth and power depend.
They have no intention of allowing a loudmouth, upstart casino operator to seriously threaten the credibility of their precious system by blurting out all kinds of insider information that exposes the rot at the heart of the machine.
That’s not something they want to hear, and that’s not something they’re going to hear.
Donald Trump is about to be crushed and destroyed in ways he never could have imagined.
He’s about to discover a painful truth, that the vindictive and merciless people who run this country are not to be trifled with.
One day he’ll be playfully sparring with the press corps on the front steps of his Manhattan penthouse, and the next thing you know he’ll be frog-marching across Times Square in handcuffs and leg-irons.
You can bet on it.
Trump’s got to know what’s coming next.
He’s a smart guy and he’s seen this play out many times before.
The bottom line, is that if you fu** with these guys, you’re going to wind up “sleeping with the fishes.”
It’s that simple.
He ought to know that by now.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/10/swan-song-for-the-donald-gop-party-bosses-plan-to-take-out-trump/
Splits
08-11-2015, 04:21 PM
ks_240VM1WI
hater
08-11-2015, 07:11 PM
Swan Song for the Donald? GOP Party Bosses Plan to “Take Out” Trump (http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/10/swan-song-for-the-donald-gop-party-bosses-plan-to-take-out-trump/)
In one short 20-second exchange, the brash Trump revealed the quid pro quo that assures that the coffers at both the Democrat and Republican headquarters remain full-to-the-brim. He said:
“I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me. And that’s a broken system.”
Dear reader, there are things you can say in America and there are things you cannot say. You can criticize the government, support torture, applaud the racist arrest and incarceration immigrants looking for work, and cheerlead the bombing of civilians in the many countries around the world where the US has launched its vicious wars of aggression.
But you cannot stand in front of an audience of 24 million Americans on national Television and explain in excruciating detail how the political system really works, how the tycoons and moguls pay for favors from the sock-puppet politicians, how the politicians do whatever they are told to do, and why the system is a complete and utter fraud.
The people who own the system will not allow that, after all, it is their system, a system which they created, which they control, and that provides the very foundation upon which their wealth and power depend.
They have no intention of allowing a loudmouth, upstart casino operator to seriously threaten the credibility of their precious system by blurting out all kinds of insider information that exposes the rot at the heart of the machine.
That’s not something they want to hear, and that’s not something they’re going to hear.
Donald Trump is about to be crushed and destroyed in ways he never could have imagined.
He’s about to discover a painful truth, that the vindictive and merciless people who run this country are not to be trifled with.
One day he’ll be playfully sparring with the press corps on the front steps of his Manhattan penthouse, and the next thing you know he’ll be frog-marching across Times Square in handcuffs and leg-irons.
You can bet on it.
Trump’s got to know what’s coming next.
He’s a smart guy and he’s seen this play out many times before.
The bottom line, is that if you fu** with these guys, you’re going to wind up “sleeping with the fishes.”
It’s that simple.
He ought to know that by now.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/10/swan-song-for-the-donald-gop-party-bosses-plan-to-take-out-trump/
Bullshit.
Obama has been singing that song for 8 years.
We have a boken system this, we have a broken system that. He won thanks to that.
You're full of shit dude
boutons_deux
08-12-2015, 08:18 AM
How Roger Ailes Picked Trump, and Fox News’ Audience, Over Megyn Kelly
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2015/08/11/11-trump-ailes-kelly.w529.h352.2x.jpg
Eventually, as I reported yesterday (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/08/donald-trump-and-roger-ailes-make-up-for-now.html), he made the same choice he always does: follow the ratings, and mend fences with Trump (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/08/donald-trump-and-roger-ailes-make-up-for-now.html).
But that process has meant that Fox has had to mute its defense of Kelly, who is now watching uneasily as the Fox audience turns on her:
According to one high-level source, Kelly has told Fox producers that she’s been getting death threats from Trump supporters.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/08/fox-news-picked-trump-over-megyn-kelly.html?ncid=newsltushpmg00000003
ducks
08-12-2015, 04:38 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/donald-trump-just-surged-biggest-205900662.html
Bigger lead
Clipper Nation
08-12-2015, 08:58 PM
Trump destroys Rand Paul:
Rand Paul is doing so poorly in the polls he has to revert to old footage of me discussing positions I no longer hold. As a world-class businessman, who built one of the great companies with some of the most iconic real estate assets in the world, it was my obligation to my family, my company, my employees and myself to maintain a strong relationship with all politicians whether Republican or Democrat. I did that and I did that well.
Unless you are a piece of unyielding granite, over the years positions evolve as they have in my case. Ronald Reagan, as an example, was a Democrat with a liberal bent who became a conservative Republican.
Recently, Rand Paul called me and asked me to play golf. I easily beat him on the golf course and will even more easily beat him now, in the world in the politics.
Senator Paul does not mention that after trouncing him in golf I made a significant donation to the eye center with which he is affiliated.
I feel sorry for the great people of Kentucky who are being used as a back up to Senator Paul’s hopeless attempt to become President of the United States--- weak on the military, Israel, the Vets and many other issues. Senator Paul has no chance of wining the nomination and the people of Kentucky should not allow him the privilege of remaining their Senator. Rand should save his lobbyist’s and special interest money and just go quietly home.
Rand’s campaign is a total mess, and as a matter of fact, I didn’t know he had anybody left in his campaign to make commercials who are not currently under indictment!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/12/new-rand-paul-video-basically-calls-donald-trump-a-closet-democrat/
Rand is a disappointment to his father's legacy, tbh. Trump is right on the money as usual.
boutons_deux
08-13-2015, 09:22 AM
Why Trump Is the Pied Piper for the Huge Number of Republican Woman Haters
Donald Trump is a misogynist. This has been indisputable (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/column-anna-holmes-on-donald-trumps-sexism/2011/04/21/AFmSfEHF_story.html) for decades (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/08/donald-trump-s-gross-history-of-misogyny-from-rosie-o-donnell-to-megyn-kelly.html), but many Republican leaders are finally starting to agree there might be something, you know, bigoted about Trump’s eagerness to use every sexist trope in the book to attack women he takes issue with.
Specifically, Republicans are "offended" that Donald Trump made a gross crack (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-blood) about Fox News host Megyn Kelly after Kelly dared ask him some tough questions during Thursday night’s Republican primary debate.
Conservative posturing about the evils of misogyny (http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/08/10/conservative_outrage_over_donald_trump_s_misogyny_ hilariously_opportunistic.html) is sheer opportunism; that is hardly in dispute. Trump has been a pig as long as he’s been in the public eye, calling Rosie O’Donnell a “fat pig,” saying women from Gail Collins to Arianna Huffington are ugly because they disagree with him, and suggesting Anne Hathaway is a golddigger. That his hateful attitude toward women suddenly offends Republicans has little to do with sincere objections to misogyny and everything to do with the fact that Republican leadership wants Trump to end his stunt race now, before his antics do any further damage to the Republican brand.
But while Republican leaders have started to express disgust about Trump’s misogyny, Trump (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/09/donald-trump-i-cherish-women/) denies the charge, claiming, “I cherish women. I want to help women."
That Trump pulls this card is hardly a surprise. You’ll have more luck finding a talking dog than a misogynist who openly cops to hating women. The dictionary may define misogyny as “hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women” but it’s usually a little more complex than that.
Your average misogynist, like Trump, often claims -- may even believe -- that he loves women. But that supposed love comes with a caveat, which is that he expects a woman to be subservient and know her place. If a woman steps out of line by disagreeing with the misogynist, rejecting his instructions on how to live her life, or behaving or dressing in a way he doesn’t like, that’s when the anger and hatred come pouring out.
Misogyny is more about male entitlement than anything else. It’s a direct result of men feeling entitled to women’s obedience, submission, silence, fawning adoration, or some combination of all of these. When the misogynist claims he loves women, he means women who are deferential to him and his desires. Incidentally, this also explains why there are so many female misogynists — women who have absorbed the message that women should be deferential to men and attack any women who disagree.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/why-trump-pied-piper-huge-number-republican-woman-haters?akid=13379.187590.KeHm55&rd=1&src=newsletter1040825&t=6
A lot of misogyny, women as inferior to men, based on Bible humpers interpretation of the OT. Remember Bible humper/Christian supremacist Bachmann saying she deferred to her husband. QuiverFull is women as nothing but fuck holes.
Clipper Nation
08-13-2015, 09:50 AM
^ SJW faggot ^
hater
08-13-2015, 09:53 AM
Democrats throwing shit hoping something, anything sticks :lol
Splits
08-13-2015, 10:49 AM
Democrats throwing shit hoping something, anything sticks :lol
Uhh, no. There's nothing better for the blue team right now than the continued success of The Donald. He's a horrific candidate, will never be elected, is making the entire red team look like total clowns, and is drowning out any message they may have that doesn't appeal to the 1%. Trust me, Dems are rooting HARD for The Donald
hater
08-13-2015, 10:50 AM
You'd think that.
But then why the avalanche of anti Trump jbberish from Democratic media???? Makes no sense.
Either they are really scared of him or they are to stupid to realize they need to root for him. :lmao
Splits
08-13-2015, 10:53 AM
Please point me to the "anti-Trump jibberish from the Democratic media".
hater
08-13-2015, 11:19 AM
Please point me to the "anti-Trump jibberish from the Democratic media".
All the articles posted by boutons :lmao
Splits
08-13-2015, 12:33 PM
:lol
RU6FTo5W7f8
:lmao
Rand Paul is doing so poorly in the polls he has to revert to old footage of me discussing positions I no longer hold. As a world-class businessman, who built one of the great companies with some of the most iconic real estate assets in the world, it was my obligation to my family, my company, my employees and myself to maintain a strong relationship with all politicians whether Republican or Democrat. I did that and I did that well.
Unless you are a piece of unyielding granite, over the years positions evolve as they have in my case. Ronald Reagan, as an example, was a Democrat with a liberal bent who became a conservative Republican.
Recently, Rand Paul called me and asked me to play golf. I easily beat him on the golf course and will even more easily beat him now, in the world in the politics.
Senator Paul does not mention that after trouncing him in golf I made a significant donation to the eye center with which he is affiliated.
I feel sorry for the great people of Kentucky who are being used as a back up to Senator Paul’s hopeless attempt to become President of the United States--- weak on the military, Israel, the Vets and many other issues. Senator Paul has no chance of wining the nomination and the people of Kentucky should not allow him the privilege of remaining their Senator. Rand should save his lobbyist’s and special interest money and just go quietly home.
Rand’s campaign is a total mess, and as a matter of fact, I didn’t know he had anybody left in his campaign to make commercials who are not currently under indictment!
:lmao :lol :lmao
Wow, that took a while to read.
First, Ronald Reagan spent 20 years as a conservative before running for President, not twenty minutes. He changed out of conviction. He campaigned for Goldwater in 1964 giving one of the great conservative speeches of all time, setting the intellectual agenda for a generation of conservatives.
Donald Trump couldn't set the intellectual conservative agenda of anything, not even the tiniest rooms, never mind a country. He is devoid of ideas other than he likes the idea of power and getting attention for foolish statements and bluster.
Rand Paul is the one following in the footsteps of Reagan, setting the intellectual agenda for a conservative movement of change. Rand stands for principle. He has detailed plans to end our debt by balancing the budget in 5 years. He has a detailed flat and fair tax that would be a huge tax cut for Americans while ending the corporate welfare gravy train for people like Donald Trump. He has real plans to defeat the Washington machine like term limits and forcing Congress to read the bills.
While he appreciates Donald's golf skills, I will note that [the game] was on his home course that he plays often. And he does sincerely appreciate Donald's generosity to the eye clinic. In fact he has mentioned it often, including in his op-ed and speeches this weekend.
The fact is, Rand is running to fight the big business, big government establishment. Donald Trump already represents one end of that problem. Now he wants to represent the other. It won't work.
boutons_deux
08-13-2015, 02:29 PM
Donald Trump’s foreign-policy platform is so catastrophically bad that world leaders are now taking the time to pan it: “It reflects an enormous ignorance”
Mexico won't pay to build a wall on its border with US, nor will military "bomb the hell" out of the Middle East
In an interview (https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-13/sorry-donald-trump-mexico-says-it-will-not-pay-for-wall-on-border) with Bloomberg’s Sean Martin on Wednesday, however, Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto’s spokesman Eduardo Sanchez said, in no uncertain terms, that Mexico would do nothing of the sort.
“Of course it’s false,” he said of Trump’s claim. “It reflects an enormous ignorance of what Mexico represents, and also the irresponsibility of the candidate who’s saying it.”
“Mexicans in the U.S. work with passion, they do their jobs well,” he added. “His comments reflect an enormous lack of knowledge of the reality in the U.S.”
As for Trump’s other plan — that the United States should solve the crises in the Middle East by “bomb[ing] the hell out of” Iraq, Iran, and ISIS (http://www.salon.com/2015/08/11/donald_trump_says_hes_the_most_militaristic_person _there_is_proves_it_by_demanding_we_bomb_the_hell_ out_of_iraq_iran_and_isis/), Army Chief of Staff Gen. Raymond T. Odierno said Wednesday (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/08/12/gen-ray-odierno-i-disagree-with-donald-trump-on-iraq/) that he couldn’t disagree more with the real estate magnate’s proposed plan.
“That is not where we are today,” he said. “What we want to do is try to stop a group that is potentially attempting to be a long-term influence in the Middle East, that is clearly promoting extremism and frankly suppressing populations in the Middle East. In order to resolve that, you need countries of the Middle East and those surrounding the Middle East to be involved in the solution.”
When asked directly if that means he disagrees with Trump’s plan, Gen. Odierno said “I do, I do, right now, I do.”
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/13/donald_trumps_foreign_policy_platform_is_so_catast rophically_bad_that_military_and_world_leaders_are _now_taking_the_time_to_pan_it_it_reflects_an_enor mous_ignorance/
Talk is CHEAP, like classless, trashy Trump himself.
Blizzardwizard
08-13-2015, 02:41 PM
Uhh, no. There's nothing better for the blue team right now than the continued success of The Donald. He's a horrific candidate, will never be elected, is making the entire red team look like total clowns, and is drowning out any message they may have that doesn't appeal to the 1%. Trust me, Dems are rooting HARD for The Donald
I'm sure that closer to the election we get the Repugs will feel more and more stupid to put their support behind Trump when polls inevitably show the democrat candidate 20% ahead of that buffoon.
Martin O'Malley could beat that clown!
Clipper Nation
08-13-2015, 03:11 PM
Trump is in it to win it in Iowa:
http://wapo.st/1L9cCf3
Splits
08-13-2015, 03:38 PM
:lmao
It showed up at a country music concert in Cherokee and at a bacon festival in Ottumwa.
And these faggot fucks decide who gets to run for president :lol
boutons_deux
08-13-2015, 04:27 PM
Trump Is the Authoritarian Ruler Republicans and Some Dems Have Been Waiting For
How far can a truly authoritarian leader go in America?
University of Virginia political scientist Larry Sabato, who has a very good crystal balls for predicting presidential contenders and races, has broken the massive GOP want-to-be field into five tiers (http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2016-president/) to establish who is and who is not a viable potential. Professor Sabato’s first tier GOP candidates are (alphabetically): Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and Scott Walker. Donald Trump, who is currently leading in the polls, ranks in lowest—or fifth—tier by Professor Sabato, who labels Trump a “gadfly.”
I looked closely at authoritarians in Conservatives Without Conscience (http://www.amazon.com/Conservatives-Without-Conscience-John-Dean/dp/0143038869), and the information I developed and shared in 2006 is equally, if not more, relevant today. Actually, Trump is far more aggressive in his authoritarianism than his predecessors. To understand the Trump phenomenon, it is essential to appreciate political authoritarianism, as well as its limits and boundaries.
Political Authoritarians—The Followers
Americans were introduced to “the authoritarian type” in a 1951 book that was controversial from its publication: The Authoritarian Personality (https://books.google.com/books?id=_YiiPwAACAAJ&dq=The+Authoritarian+Personality&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAGoVChMIq4zx_ZbwxgIVwaOICh27awVh) by Theodor W. Adorno (https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Theodor+W.+Adorno%22), Else Frenkel-Brunswik (https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Else+Frenkel-Brunswik%22), and Daniel J. Levinson (https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Daniel+J.+Levinson%22). While the book had its flaws, time has also shown much of the analysis was accurate, if not prescient, in explaining this type of personality. When studying these personalities I discovered the later work of an American-born professor at the University of Manitoba, Bob Altemeyer, whose book The Authoritarian Specter updates, expands upon, and solidifies the work of Adorno’s team
To cut to the bottom line: I can envision a number of scenarios where Trump could capture the GOP nomination, and they all start with him making respectable showings in New Hampshire and South Carolina. If Trump is going to decide to go home and stop playing the game due to it being a waste of money, it will be after South Carolina. If he is in play at that time, he could win the nomination.
But I can find no scenario in which he could win the White House. Too many voters still remember Nixon, Agnew, Bush, and Cheney, who ranked high on the authoritarian leaders scale, albeit not as high as Donald Trump.
Should it happen that Trump wins the GOP nomination, he will surely all but finish the destruction of the Republican Party, which began with the ascendency of the religious right and Southern conservatives leaving the “Big Tent” Democratic Party to make the GOP their unspoken racist home. The authoritarian base of the GOP has been steadily growing, and Trump could test its strength.
Of only one thing am I absolutely certain: Donald Trump will never be President of the United States, so rest easy. Authoritarians remain a minority in America, thankfully.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trump-authoritarian-ruler-republicans-and-some-dems-have-been-waiting
Clipper Nation
08-13-2015, 04:41 PM
:lmao
And these faggot fucks decide who gets to run for president :lol
Let them have this - there's literally nothing else to do ever in Iowa.
boutons_deux
08-13-2015, 04:49 PM
The emphasis on Iowa CAUCUSes (not even full electorate) is one of the huge perversions in American politics.
3M people
4M cows
pigs, chickens, etc, etc.
and LOTS of shit.
Splits
08-14-2015, 02:30 AM
HNkHsyyIiZ0
boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 04:54 PM
the authoritarian wealthy capilatlist reaching out to the working class
Donald Trump to Detroit autoworkers: you make too much money (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/14/1412018/-Donald-Trump-to-Detroit-autoworkers-you-make-too-much-money)
Donald Trump has something to say to Detroit autoworkers: you make too much money. Talking about U.S. vehicle manufacturers moving production to Mexico in an interview with The Detroit News (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2015/08/12/trump-autos/31589899/), Trump said this:
He said U.S. automakers could shift production away from Michigan to communities where autoworkers would make less. “You can go to different parts of the United States and then ultimately you’d do full-circle — you’ll come back to Michigan because those guys are going to want their jobs back even if it is less,” Trump said.
“We can do the rotation in the United States — it doesn’t have to be in Mexico.”He said that after Michigan “loses a couple of plants — all of sudden you’ll make good deals in your own area.”
See? The problem we have is that Michigan autoworkers are getting paid too much. We need to destroy their jobs and starve them until they are willing to go back to work at a lower wage.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/14/1412018/-Donald-Trump-to-Detroit-autoworkers-you-make-too-much-money?detail=email
CosmicCowboy
08-14-2015, 05:05 PM
UAW assembly line (basically repetitive unskilled labor) wage averages compensation of $70 an hour after including benefits and legacy retirement costs. Trump does have a point that it is not competitive with other markets. That's pretty hard to argue.
It is what it is.
President trump , get used to it folks
boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 05:13 PM
UAW assembly line (basically repetitive unskilled labor) wage averages compensation of $70 an hour after including benefits and legacy retirement costs. Trump does have a point that it is not competitive with other markets. That's pretty hard to argue.
It is what it is.
not the new hires. the bankruptcy forced the unions to hire new workers at under $20/hour, iow, poverty wages
http://www.autonews.com/article/20150324/OEM01/150329934/uaw-rank-and-file-decry-tier-2-pay-at-bargaining-convention
Splits
08-14-2015, 05:22 PM
UAW assembly line (basically repetitive unskilled labor) wage averages compensation of $70 an hour after including benefits and legacy retirement costs. Trump does have a point that it is not competitive with other markets. That's pretty hard to argue.
It is what it is.
Do you just pull numbers out of your ass?
And just how do those Germans make the world's best cars with all their socialism and unionization?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2011/12/21/germany-builds-twice-as-many-cars-as-the-u-s-while-paying-its-auto-workers-twice-as-much/
In 2010, Germany produced more than 5.5 million automobiles; the U.S produced 2.7 million. At the same time, the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary in benefits; the average one in the U.S. made $33.77 per hour. Yet Germany’s big three car companies—BMW, Daimler (http://www.forbes.com/companies/daimler) DDAIY +% (http://www.forbes.com/companies/daimler) (Mercedes-Benz (http://www.forbes.com/companies/mercedes-benz)), and Volkswagen—are very profitable.
How can that be? The question is explored in a new article (http://www.remappingdebate.org/article/tale-two-systems) from Remapping Debate, a public policy e-journal. Its author, Kevin C. Brown, writes that “the salient difference is that, in Germany, the automakers operate within an environment that precludes a race to the bottom; in the U.S., they operate within an environment that encourages such a race.”
There are “two overlapping sets of institutions” in Germany that guarantee high wages and good working conditions for autoworkers. The first is IG Metall, the country’s equivalent of the United Automobile Workers. Virtually all Germany’s car workers are members, and though they have the right to strike, they “hardly use it, because there is an elaborate system of conflict resolution that regularly is used to come to some sort of compromise that is acceptable to all parties,” according to Horst Mund, an IG Metall executive. The second institution is the German constitution, which allows for “works councils” in every factory, where management and employees work together on matters like shop floor conditions and work life. Mund says this guarantees cooperation, “where you don’t always wear your management pin or your union pin.”
Mund points out that this goes
against all mainstream wisdom of the neo-liberals. We have strong unions, we have strong social security systems, we have high wages. So, if I believed what the neo-liberals are arguing, we would have to be bankrupt, but apparently this is not the case. Despite high wages . . . despite our possibility to influence companies, the economy is working well in Germany.
As Michael Maibach, president and chief executive of the European American Business Council, puts it, union-management relations in the U.S. are “adversarial,” whereas in Germany they’re “collaborative.”
Does such a happy relationship survive when German automakers set up shop in the U.S.? No. As a historian observes in the article, “BMW is a German company and it has a very German hierarchy and management system in Germany,” yet “when they are operating in Spartanburg [in South Carolina] they have become very, very easily adaptable to Spartanburg business culture.” At Volkswagen’s Chattanooga plant, the nonunionized new employees get $14.50 an hour, which rises to $19.50 after three years.
The article’s author, Kevin C. Brown, asked Claude Barfield, a scholar with the American Enterprise Institute, why the German car companies behave so differently in the U.S. He answered, “Because they can get away with it so far.”
Read the complete Remapping Debate article her (http://www.remappingdebate.org/article/tale-two-systems)e.
CosmicCowboy
08-14-2015, 05:25 PM
Do you just pull numbers out of your ass?
And just how do those Germans make the world's best cars with all their socialism and unionization?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2011/12/21/germany-builds-twice-as-many-cars-as-the-u-s-while-paying-its-auto-workers-twice-as-much/
Fuck you asshole.
From FactCheck.Org
the average GM, Ford and Chrysler worker receives compensation – wages, bonuses, overtime and paid time off – of about $40 an hour. Add in benefits such as health insurance and pensions and you get to about $55. Another $15 or so in benefits to retirees (known as "legacy costs") brings the number to roughly $70.
ChumpDumper
08-14-2015, 05:58 PM
Fuck you asshole.
From FactCheck.Org2008?
Has anything changed in the industry since then?
And how do benefits to retirees count for current employee pay?
Clipper Nation
08-14-2015, 07:33 PM
Trump killed it in New Hampshire tonight!
boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 07:35 PM
Has anything changed in the industry since then?
And how do benefits to retirees count for current employee pay?
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...ing-convention (http://www.autonews.com/article/20150324/OEM01/150329934/uaw-rank-and-file-decry-tier-2-pay-at-bargaining-convention)
Splits
08-14-2015, 08:20 PM
Fuck you asshole.
From FactCheck.Org
Hilarious how you cherry-pick your information. I'm sure it was simply an accident that you eliminated these facts from the exact same article:
A report (http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/wm2135.cfm) from the conservative Heritage Foundation, opposing the auto industry bailout, said that members of the United Auto Workers union "earn $75 an hour in wages and benefits – almost triple the earnings of the average private sector worker." Later in the report, it’s phrased this way: "The vast majority of UAW workers in Detroit today still earn $75 an hour."
That figure has caught hold with some conservatives, and it seeps into media coverage from time to time as well. A few examples: At a Nov. 19 House Financial Services Committeehearing (http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/financialsvcs_dem/hr111908.shtml) on a possible bailout for the auto industry, Alabama Republican Rep. Spencer Bachus said, "Even with recent changes, the average hourly wage at General Motors is still $75 an hour. …" Two of his GOP colleagues on the panel made similar statements. And in a Nov. 18 column (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/18/business/economy/18sorkin.html?_r=2&sq=andrew%20ross%20sorkin%20auto%20workers%20$70&st=cse&scp=1&pagewanted=print) in the New York Times, business reporter Andrew Ross Sorkin wrote, "At GM, as of 2007, the average worker was paid about $70 an hour, including health care and pension costs."
The problem is, that’s just not true. The automakers say that the average wage earned by its unionized workers is about $29 per hour. So how does that climb to more than $70? Add in benefits: life insurance, health care, pension and so on. But not just the benefits that the current workers actually receive – after all, it’s pretty rare for the value of a benefits package to add up to more than wages paid, even with a really, really good health plan in place. What’s causing the number to balloon is the cost of providing benefits to tens of thousands of retired auto workers (http://www.uaw.org/barg/07fact/fact02.php) and their surviving spouses.
The automakers arrived at the $70+ figure by adding up all the costs associated with providing wages and benefits to current and retired workers and dividing the total by the number of hours worked by current employees
Clipper Nation
08-14-2015, 10:12 PM
President-Elect Trump dropping truthbombs left and right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eof8mZWRIMI
Clipper Nation
08-14-2015, 10:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/S5eNQCQ.jpg
Splits
08-14-2015, 10:32 PM
:lmao CN actually falling for this
Clipper Nation
08-14-2015, 10:44 PM
:lmao CN actually falling for this
:lmao You actually voting for Hillary and her emails.
Splits
08-14-2015, 10:48 PM
:lmao You actually voting for Hillary and her emails.
You see, I actually have intellectual integrity. I would never vote for Hillary, and have made that clear.
You on the other hand actually think Donald fucking Trump is a serious candidate for President of "the greatest country in the history of the universe". :lmao
Did you vote for Palin?
Clipper Nation
08-14-2015, 10:49 PM
The Donald is rolling out his plans on immigration and taxes early next month:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-reveal-immigration-tax-policy-plans-next-month/2015/08/14/2bba0d3e-42cd-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html
Clipper Nation
08-14-2015, 10:51 PM
You see, I actually have intellectual integrity. I would never vote for Hillary, and have made that clear.
So who are you voting for, then? That socialist nutjob Bernie "The Bomber" Sanders? :lmao
You on the other hand actually think Donald fucking Trump is a serious candidate for President of "the greatest country in the history of the universe". :lmao
Trump himself is actually taking it seriously and is in it to win it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/an-iowa-surprise-donald-trump-is-actually-trying-to-win/2015/08/13/564a9f50-4142-11e5-8e7d-9c033e6745d8_story.html
Th'Pusher
08-14-2015, 10:52 PM
The Donald is rolling out his plans on immigration and taxes early next month:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-reveal-immigration-tax-policy-plans-next-month/2015/08/14/2bba0d3e-42cd-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html
So are you going to vote for trump or write in Ron Paul?
Your last proclamation was a write in for Paul. State your position.
Clipper Nation
08-14-2015, 10:56 PM
So are you going to vote for trump or write in Ron Paul?
Your last proclamation was a write in for Paul.
I'll vote for Trump if he's on the ballot and write in Ron if he's not.
State your position.
The irony of you ordering others to do this is rich when you have zero takes of your own and just whine about how "unintelligent" everyone else's is.
Splits
08-14-2015, 10:59 PM
So who are you voting for, then? That socialist nutjob Bernie "The Bomber" Sanders? :lmao
Trump himself is actually taking it seriously and is in it to win it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/an-iowa-surprise-donald-trump-is-actually-trying-to-win/2015/08/13/564a9f50-4142-11e5-8e7d-9c033e6745d8_story.html
What part of Trump's tax policy do you agree with and which part do you disagree with?
Clipper Nation
08-14-2015, 11:03 PM
What part of Trump's tax policy do you agree with and which part do you disagree with?
I like his idea of getting rid of the estate tax and reducing the capital gains tax.
Th'Pusher
08-14-2015, 11:04 PM
I'll vote for Trump if he's on the ballot and write in Ron if he's not.
The irony of you ordering others to do this is rich when you have zero takes of your own and just whine about how "unintelligent" everyone else's is.
What are you talking about? I've got plenty of takes of my own. I think you're a total moron, a wildly illogical ideologue and a plagiarist.
You pay Ron Paul a subscription to tell you what to think and you have absolutely no ability to look at ramifications of policy positions at a macro level.
You're one of the most ridiculous posters on the political forum.
Clipper Nation
08-14-2015, 11:08 PM
What are you talking about? I've got plenty of takes of my own. I think you're a total moron, a wildly illogical ideologue and a plagiarist.
You pay Ron Paul a subscription to tell you what to think and you have absolutely no ability to look at ramifications of policy positions at a macro level.
You're one of the most ridiculous posters on the political forum.
I don't pay anyone a subscription. I'm sure you're a proud subscriber to DailyKos, though.
Thanks for proving my point, BTW. Your entire presence on this forum is spent on the political board whimpering about how people who apparently disagree with you are "ridiculous" and "unintelligent." Meanwhile, you are by far one of the dumbest libcucks on the site. You make Boutons' contributions look worthwhile by comparison.
:cry "Dissenting views trigger me, they must be stupid!" :cry
Th'Pusher
08-14-2015, 11:11 PM
I don't pay anyone a subscription. I'm sure you're a proud subscriber to DailyKos, though.
Thanks for proving my point, BTW. Your entire presence on this forum is spent on the political board whimpering about how people who apparently disagree with you are "ridiculous" and "unintelligent." Meanwhile, you are by far one of the dumbest libcucks on the site. You make Boutons' contributions look worthwhile by comparison.
:cry "Dissenting views trigger me, they must be stupid!" :cry
Dude. You just said you're going to either vote for Donald Trump or write in Ron Paul. You might as well write in James Madison. You are a stupid man.
Splits
08-15-2015, 02:39 AM
I like his idea of getting rid of the estate tax and reducing the capital gains tax.
You do realize that he's not just "getting rid of the estate tax" but instead taxing everyone worth $10m+ at 14.25%, right?
I would impose a one-time, 14.25% tax on individuals and trusts with a net worth over $10 million. For individuals, net worth would be calculated minus the value of their principal residence. That would raise $5.7 trillion in new revenue, which we would use to pay off the entire national debt [and shore up the Social Security Trust Fund].
admiralsnackbar
08-15-2015, 04:07 AM
I like his idea of getting rid of the estate tax and reducing the capital gains tax.
So he doesn't want people with assets to be taxed. It certainly wouldn't create a country with a fixed class-system of landed gentry and powerless peons like the one our forefathers wished to escape. And it's certainly the kind of legislation the majority of US citizens are CLAMORING for.
He also doesn't want to tax illegal immigrants, but instead hopes to build a wall between MX and the US that he promises MX will pay for while expecting current illegals to self-deport. As somebody who worked with the MX govt for 15 years, I promise you MX won't pay to do anything for the US unless the US pays them -- in tutto and then some -- for the trouble. MX citizens might generally be kind and generous people, but the oligarchs who lord over them are among the canniest, most venal fuckers on earth. As for self-deportation... if you come from a corrupt country where misery/poverty is guaranteed to your sons but are making good money and enjoying a better life-style in a less corrupt country, are you going to self-deport yourself? Sure you will.
He's gonna release his tax and immigration plans NEXT MONTH? Why is he running if he didn't have policy agendas in place BEFORE he declared? Maybe it's because he wants to be Prez more than he cares how to be Prez.
Funny thing about the Donald that doesn't seem to get a lot of press: he also supports universal healthcare. So he's pro-business, but he wants to nationalize/destabilize a whole industry that employs 12+M citizens (http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/total-health-care-employment/#). He hasn't said where the money to fund the program and offset the losses of healthcare workers should come from, he hasn't articulated how he would shore up the US economy to take the hit. I can promise you shit all day long, but if I don't tell you how I intend to honor my promises, why should I deserve your respect/loyalty?
Dude is running for POTUS on blustering hot air alone, chief. Even Clinton and Perry have clearer agendas, and both are about as grotesque as US politics get.
boutons_deux
08-15-2015, 06:56 AM
"nationalize/destabilize a whole industry that employs 12+M citizens (http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/total-health-care-employment/#)"
red herring. that "whole industry" is raping America, raping more (ratcheting up prices way above inflaton) every year, over our entire lifetimes, leaving retirement underfinanced.
That fucking industry needs to be "destabilised" by competition from no-profit govt insurance AND no-profit govt health providing.
admiralsnackbar
08-15-2015, 07:01 AM
"nationalize/destabilize a whole industry that employs 12+M citizens (http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/total-health-care-employment/#)"
red herring. that "whole industry" is raping America, raping more (ratcheting up prices way above inflaton) every year, over our entire lifetimes, leaving retirement underfinanced.
That fucking industry needs to be "destabilised" by competition from no-profit govt insurance AND no-profit govt health providing.
Cool economic policy, bro -- now how do you pay for it? And don't get a hair up your bum assuming I'm unsympathetic to the idea of universal healthcare.
boutons_deux
08-15-2015, 07:02 AM
Trump's tax policies will obviously enrich/protect his Wealthy Class, which has won the war on the Non-wealthy class.
The ignorant Trump supporters will suck down his pro-wealthy policies knowing they, too, will be wealthy "one day". :lol
iow, Trump's ignorant supporters demonstrate their ignorance by still believing The Bullshit American Dream.
Trump to reveal immigration, tax policy plans next month
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-reveal-immigration-tax-policy-plans-next-month/2015/08/14/2bba0d3e-42cd-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html
Trump said he's got the smartest people in the "business" working on his tax policy, smartest at avoiding and evading taxes, for sure.
admiralsnackbar
08-15-2015, 07:26 AM
Skip the obvious copy/paste opportunities and hatch a thought, bud.
boutons_deux
08-15-2015, 07:32 AM
Skip the obvious copy/paste opportunities and hatch a thought, bud.
GFY, dud
admiralsnackbar
08-15-2015, 07:39 AM
GFY, dud
Ok, champ. Carry on with ya bad self... dud.
boutons_deux
08-15-2015, 07:58 AM
Cool economic policy, bro -- now how do you pay for it? And don't get a hair up your bum assuming I'm unsympathetic to the idea of universal healthcare.
pay for it like employer's group insurance now, skimmed out of your salary before tax, but unlike for-profit insurance skimming, the employer doesn't get to claim GOVT insurance deduction as his business expense, killing that tax break for employers, helping finance the GOVT health system.
hater
08-15-2015, 11:50 AM
:lmao Trump went HAM on everyone today :lol
Trump pulled no punches, whacking Scott Walker's record in Wisconsin, mocking Rick Perry and Lindsey Graham's stagnant poll numbers, and trashing Carly Fiorina's business resume after joking that he might get in trouble for attacking the only woman in the GOP field.
"I promised I would not say that she ran Hewlett-Packard into the ground, that she laid off tens of thousands of people and she got viciously fired," he said. "I said I will not say it, so I will not say it."
:lol
Trump seized on Jeb Bush's remark this week that removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq was a "good deal," despite the deaths of thousands of U.S. servicemen and over $1 trillion spent on the war.
"The Iraq war is a disaster for the Bushes," Trump told reporters in a press conference before his rally. "The last thing we need is another Bush. Trust me. Saddam Hussein instead of him you have ISIS and instead of him you have Iran taking over. So you tell me, was it worth what we paid for?"
:lol :lol
He saved particular venom for Rand Paul, who has been attacking Trump since the first Republican debate, as "a disaster in the polls" who is "getting decimated by everybody." He poked fun at Paul's stature, making fun of his 5-foot-8 height and his "chirping" presence on last week's debate stage.
:lmao
hater
08-15-2015, 11:52 AM
"Well, I think that Biden and Gore will be probably involved at some point because there's a lot of pressure on Hillary right now," Trump speculated, referring to the unfolding controversy over Clinton's emails. "It's been brutal for Hillary. And I think at some point perhaps she's not going to be able to run her campaign... It looks to me like this is top secret stuff. General Petraeus, his life was destroyed by a tiny fraction of what she's done. I don't see how she can run. She's got much bigger problems than running for office."
:lol absolutely wrecked everyone :lol
hater
08-15-2015, 11:53 AM
"You know, they're calling it 'the summer of Trump,'"
:wow
hater
08-15-2015, 12:04 PM
dz7GRRvwCso
boutons_deux
08-15-2015, 02:54 PM
Donald Trump Tells His Biggest Lie By Claiming To Break Bernie Sanders’ Crowd Records
The truth is that Trump isn’t breaking any records. His biggest crowd was a little over 4,000 in Las Vegas.
Sanders set the record last weekend when 28,000 came out to see him in Portland, OR (http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08/10/bernie-sanders-sends-message-kochs-drawing-28000-rally.html). Trump’s best crowd is about seven times less than the Sanders record.
The media isn’t bothering to fact check Trump. He is making it all up as he goes along, and no one is challenging him.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08/15/donald-trump-tells-biggest-lie-claiming-break-bernie-sanders-crowd-records.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
"I promised I would not say that she ran Hewlett-Packard into the ground, that she laid off tens of thousands of people and she got viciously fired," he said. "I said I will not say it, so I will not say it."
Some say he doesn't respect women, but that was pretty classy of him.
Quetzal-X
08-15-2015, 05:05 PM
Nigga sound like Rick James speakin bout the Eddie murphy couch beatdown.
thunder
08-15-2015, 05:26 PM
Some say he doesn't respect women, but that was pretty classy of him.
^Libtard being selectively sensitive, cherry picking comments ^
^Libtard being selectively sensitive, cherry picking comments ^
I support Donald Trump. I don't know what you're talking about.
boutons_deux
08-15-2015, 07:42 PM
I support Donald Trump.
:lol did you support pitbull bitch, too?
:lol did you support pitbull bitch, too?
No, I did not. She does not have the business acumen of Donald Trump.
boutons_deux
08-16-2015, 05:26 AM
No, I did not. She does not have the business acumen of Donald Trump.
US govt is not a business. Dubya's WH was the "MBA WH" and it started bogus, criminal wars, tripled the national debt, did NOTHING for job creation over 8 years.
Again, Trump was born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a homerun. He's loser, and will lose the election if he gets the Repug nomination.
boutons_deux
08-16-2015, 05:58 AM
Donald Trump’s Biggest Crime Is His Honesty: How He Exposes the Sickening Rot At the Core of the GOP
Republicans have spent decades dressing up fear as courage, pretending at seriousness while advancing hysteriaThe Republican Party as it has been in history is already gone, more or less, and is being replaced—more swiftly than one would have thought possible—with what amounts to a fanatical fringe.
who could have guessed that irrationality was a winning political platform? Who would have imagined even a few years ago that the Rockefeller wing of the party was so spineless and desperate to win Washington that it would capitulate to extremists thoroughly incompetent to address the 21st century’s self-evident realities?
The other 16 candidates detest him more than any Democrat does, I would wager, because there is no air whatsoever between the Donald’s views—assuming they remain stable long enough to make them out—and those of anyone else vying for office in the reconstituted G.O.P.
All that marks out Trump from other Republican aspirants is his presentation, the too-blunt-to-bear crudity of his prejudices against too many things and people to count, his hollowed-out presumptions of American primacy, his impossible promise to lunge backward to “make America great again.”
Trump is correct in his estimation of what a right-wing American pol has to be to get anywhere: dismissive of the Other, intolerant of all alternative perspectives, suspicious of thought, given to action (preferably violent) while indifferent to its consequences. Trump’s ultimate sin—a paradox here—is to possess an affect so plainly the sum total of what he has to offer that it exposes the rest of the Republican crowd: They are all empty but for slightly varied poses. All they have for us is affect.
we are in an argument between affect and thought, or between feeling and reason. We need to have it, but right-thinking people must recognize that we do not have much time to get it done.
To substitute affect for thought, as all G.O.P. candidates propose, is dangerous for two reasons.
First and very practically, it almost inevitably produces bad results. Bush II’s invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq in the post-September 11 period are obvious but not isolated cases. The need was to look tough, to act without thinking, to declare “mission accomplished” on an aircraft carrier’s deck.
Second, affect is a dangerous appeal to the subconscious in us. It addresses unsayable fears, resentments and insecurities, and fortifies idealized selves, self-images derived from impossible Hollywood plots and characters. In this respect it is the doorway to irrational politics and behavior, especially in our conduct abroad.
To complete the thought, while affect may be mistaken for charisma, the two are very different. The latter is a many-sided attribute in a man or woman. Charisma draws its power from thought, insight, imagination, wisdom; it leads people to new understandings, ways of seeing they never knew were possible.
Affect is by comparison one-dimensional. It reduces politics to spectacle, so it is ersatz, WalMart charisma at best.
Reagan, who dragged America back into the politics of affect after the defeat in Vietnam, was the master—and hence the idol of all 10 men on the stage in Cleveland.
Bobby Kennedy (the later Bobby) or Mandela were by contrast charismatic figures.
http://www.alternet.org/donald-trumps-biggest-crime-his-honesty-how-he-exposes-sickening-rot-core-gop
Repugs, as owned by BigCorp/VWRC and pandering to the bottom of the US electorate, and all their scumbag ilk are the biggest threat to America, bigger than ISIS, bigger than Muslim terrorism.
boutons_deux
08-16-2015, 07:48 AM
Trump says he’d deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants as president
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/trump-says-hed-deport-all-11-million-undocumented-immigrants-as-president/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
US govt is not a business. Dubya's WH was the "MBA WH" and it started bogus, criminal wars, tripled the national debt, did NOTHING for job creation over 8 years.
Again, Trump was born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a homerun. He's loser, and will lose the election if he gets the Repug nomination.
Dubya was effectively born on 3rd base too but he had a history of failure when it comes to actually running businesses before he entered the white house. He does not have the business acumen of Mr. Donald Trump nor is his net worth OVER 10 BILLION DOLLARS. Dubya was disinterested in actually learning how to run businesses, he only got an MBA after being rejected from law school. I doubt he was a great student there or really learned much.
boutons_deux
08-16-2015, 09:43 AM
Dubya was effectively born on 3rd base too but he had a history of failure when it comes to actually running businesses before he entered the white house. He does not have the business acumen of Mr. Donald Trump nor is his net worth OVER 10 BILLION DOLLARS. Dubya was disinterested in actually learning how to run businesses, he only got an MBA after being rejected from law school. I doubt he was a great student there or really learned much.
Exposing How Donald Trump Really Made His Fortune: Inheritance from Dad and the Government's Protection Mostly Did the Trick
http://www.alternet.org/story/156234/exposing_how_donald_trump_really_made_his_fortune% 3A_inheritance_from_dad_and_the_government's_prote ction_mostly_did_the_trick
His father was bailed out by conservative hate-target FDR, and D. Trump totally bankrupted what he inherited.
His or anybody's business success is no evidence of governmental success.
djohn2oo8
08-16-2015, 10:19 AM
:lol calling people libtards while supporting Trump who is a lifelong Democrat.
:rollin det shit
Clipper Nation
08-16-2015, 10:41 AM
:lol calling people libtards while supporting Trump who is a lifelong Democrat.
:rollin det shit
You mean a "lifelong Democrat" who's had three stints as a Republican, has been a Republican for almost all of his life, and has also been an independent and a third-party (Reform Party) member?
Trump says he’d deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants as president
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/trump-says-hed-deport-all-11-million-undocumented-immigrants-as-president/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
This man is incredible!!! Trump yes!!!
Exposing How Donald Trump Really Made His Fortune: Inheritance from Dad and the Government's Protection Mostly Did the Trick
http://www.alternet.org/story/156234/exposing_how_donald_trump_really_made_his_fortune% 3A_inheritance_from_dad_and_the_government's_prote ction_mostly_did_the_trick
His father was bailed out by conservative hate-target FDR, and D. Trump totally bankrupted what he inherited.
His or anybody's business success is no evidence of governmental success.
Lol alternet.
Trumps fathers business was nowhere near the size it is before trump came on board, not even a tiny fraction of what trump has built. You're just slandering the enemy per par etc.
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