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The establishment GOP is scared of Trump because they reportedly think he will get destroyed in the general election, but he may win and win big. If he can get a hardcore dem like myself to cross over and vote for him, then the turnout for Trump could be huugggggggggggeeeeee. I really believe that. No, it's true.
boutons_deux
01-18-2016, 03:23 PM
"he may win and win big"
He won't be President. America has 10Ms of you stupid people, but not enough to put him in the WH.
"he may win and win big"
He won't be President. America has 10Ms of you stupid people, but not enough to put him in the WH.
People said he wouldn't run, then they said he couldn't win the nomination, then they said he couldn't win the WH. It's all happening. What we are watching is historic. People thought Obama was a generational candidate. No, it's Donald J. Trump.
#TrumpCard
boutons_deux
01-18-2016, 03:31 PM
People said he wouldn't run, then they said he couldn't win the nomination, then they said he couldn't win the WH. It's all happening. What we are watching is historic. People thought Obama was a generational candidate. No, it's Donald J. Trump.
#TrumpCard
Trump, Repugs lose women (disgusting, dogs, etc), young, blacks, browns, Asians, LGBT,and intelligent independents, just like in 08 and 12.
Trump, Repugs lose women (disgusting, dogs, etc), young, blacks, browns, Asians, LGBT,and intelligent independents, just like in 08 and 12.
He's going to bring out voters who never have voted before and he's going to flip many intelligent dems like myself who don't buy what Hillary's selling.
boutons_deux
01-18-2016, 03:59 PM
Strong Man flexing his authoritarian mouth
Trump Says He Will Force Apple to Manufacture in the US Even Though That Makes Absolutely No Sense (http://gizmodo.com/trump-says-he-will-force-apple-to-manufacture-in-the-us-1753626111)
http://gizmodo.com/trump-says-he-will-force-apple-to-manufacture-in-the-us-1753626111?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29
I wonder if Donny T has any plans to give IRS, FBI enough funds to go after personal and corporate tax evaders?
Apple actually has some USA manufacturing. In fact, I think it has an Austin campus where it builds Mac Pros and has some Apple Support techs. Trump can't bring it all back (that's just hyperbole), but he can probably bring a lot of it back with a combination of good tax incentives and punitive trade/import barriers.
boutons_deux
01-18-2016, 05:40 PM
Trump and God are besties cuz Trump says so (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/18/1471398/-Trump-and-God-are-besties-cuz-Trump-says-so)
TRUMP: No, I have great relationship with God.
I have great relationship with the evangelicals.
In fact nationwide, I'm up by a lot -- leading everybody.
But I like to be good.
I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness.
And I am good.
I don't do a lot of things that are bad.
I try and do nothing that's bad.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/18/1471398/-Trump-and-God-are-besties-cuz-Trump-says-so?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29
Trump, Repugs lose women (disgusting, dogs, etc), young, blacks, browns, Asians, LGBT,and intelligent independents, just like in 08 and 12.
I am an Asian woman - Trump's got my vote and in that all important swing state called Florida.
boutons_deux
01-18-2016, 09:22 PM
I am an Asian woman - Trump's got my vote and in that all important swing state called Florida.
your anecdote, all anecdotes, are useless. thanks, anyway.
boutons_deux
01-18-2016, 09:28 PM
The Gospel According to Trump
IT is no secret that Donald J. Trump’s ruinous rise in the Republican presidential primaries has been powered, in large part, by a naked agenda of religious division and fear-mongering — an agenda that will likely inform his speech today at Liberty University, a conservative Christian college in Lynchburg, Va.
But while his anti-Muslim provocations have rightly drawn the largest share of public outrage, Mr. Trump has in fact been using his bully pulpit throughout this election season to attack religious minorities of all stripes. He deploys this tactic on the campaign trail whenever it suits his political purposes, and his religious digs and dog whistles are often so cartoonishly retro that they sound as if they’re being delivered by a billionaire Archie Bunker.
In the Gospel According to Trump, there is only one blessedly normal, all-American faith: mainline Protestant Christianity. The Presbyterians, the Methodists, the Baptists — those believers who once made up this country’s midcentury religious mainstream — are Mr. Trump’s “chosen ones.” He regards their customs and values as essentially as American as apple pie, while all other faith communities, even other forms of Christianity, seem to rest somewhere on a spectrum from exotic to sinister.
...
There is an absurdity in seeing Donald Trump trying to play the role of 2016 religion referee. This is a man whose sincerest praise for the Bible is to deem it even better than his best-selling book “The Art of the Deal,” a man whose most famous religious experience is having reportedly struck up a romance with his second wife among the pews of a Manhattan church (while he was still married to Ivana).
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/18/opinion/campaign-stops/the-gospel-according-to-trump.html
Rumor spreading that Trump will get Palin's endorsement. I don't like Palin, but we got to do what we go to do to win.
This is huggeeee news in the race for Iowa. That, I can tell you.
your anecdote, all anecdotes, are useless. thanks, anyway.
However, VOTES are not useless - especially in FL. Can't believe my middle ds will be 18 (just in time for the election) - so that'll be 4 from my household.
DMX7, if Trump wins Iowa, there's a good chance he'll run the table. That's why he's turned up the heat on Cruz - going for the knockout up front.
boutons_deux
01-19-2016, 04:22 PM
"VOTES are not useless"
they're useless. no matter who you vote for, they will legislate to satisfy, or not to upset, their biggest donors
So who are Trump's biggest donors? Who does he have to satisfy or not upset?
Palin does endorse Trump and Iowa's governor wants Cruz defeated. Wonder why Palin endorsed Trump and not Cruz - that's kinda strange.
boutons_deux
01-19-2016, 04:40 PM
So who are Trump's biggest donors? Who does he have to satisfy or not upset?
President only signs/vetoes bills from Congress, and effectively all of Congress is corrupted, owned big donors.
It doesn't matter if Trump thinks he can win without big donors. He's running for President, not all-powerful dictator.
President only signs/vetoes bills from Congress, and effectively all of Congress is corrupted, owned big donors.
It doesn't matter if Trump thinks he can win without big donors. He's running for President, not all-powerful dictator.
You wouldn't know that with the current President and his executive orders/actions. And we are in the Church of Trump thread and discussing the position he's running for - not Congress.
boutons_deux
01-19-2016, 05:16 PM
You wouldn't know that with the current President and his executive orders/actions. And we are in the Church of Trump thread and discussing the position he's running for - not Congress.
Executive orders are legal. We'll see if SCOTUS knocks down his delaying of deporting illegal immigrants.
However, VOTES are not useless - especially in FL. Can't believe my middle ds will be 18 (just in time for the election) - so that'll be 4 from my household.
DMX7, if Trump wins Iowa, there's a good chance he'll run the table. That's why he's turned up the heat on Cruz - going for the knockout up front.
I agree he could run the table if he wins Iowa. But Cruz hit him, and Trump is a big counter puncher so that's the reason he's going after Cruz so hard.
boutons_deux
01-19-2016, 05:50 PM
Palin Endorsement Widens Trump’s Lead Among Idiots
http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Borowitz-Palin-Endorsement-Trump-690x490-1453238616.jpg
DeS MOINES, Iowa — An endorsement from former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin is expected to widen Donald J. Trump’s already impressive lead among so-called “idiot voters,” an aide to the billionaire said on Tuesday.While Trump was previously thought to have a lock on the idiot vote heading into the Iowa caucuses, a recent surge by Senator Ted Cruz, of Texas, has put the idiots back in play.
Cruz has worked tirelessly in recent weeks to tailor his message to undecided idiots, even revamping his stump speech to rid it of two-syllable words.
“That’s why Palin supporting Trump and not Cruz is such a win for us,” the Trump aide said. “She’s been out of politics for awhile, but she still has idiot cred.”
The aide said that no one should be surprised by the bond between Palin and Trump. “They’re both reality-show hosts,” he said. “And by lowering the bar in 2008, Palin singlehandedly made Trump’s candidacy possible.”
But even as the Trump campaign staffers celebrate the Palin endorsement, they recognize that they still have their work cut out for them to secure victory in Iowa. “Getting the idiots to support Trump is only half the battle,” the aide said. “Now we have to make sure that they make it to the caucuses without getting lost on the way.”
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/palin-endorsement-widens-trumps-lead-among-idiots?mbid=nl_011916%20Borowitz%20Newsletter%20(1 )&CNDID=16733151&spMailingID=8450581&spUserID=MTIwNDQ2Mjk3MDExS0&spJobID=842108172&spReportId=ODQyMTA4MTcyS0 (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/palin-endorsement-widens-trumps-lead-among-idiots?mbid=nl_011916%20Borowitz%20Newsletter%20(1 )&CNDID=16733151&spMailingID=8450581&spUserID=MTIwNDQ2Mjk3MDExS0&spJobID=842108172&spReportId=ODQyMTA4MTcyS0)
Spurminator
01-19-2016, 06:03 PM
Palin does endorse Trump and Iowa's governor wants Cruz defeated. Wonder why Palin endorsed Trump and not Cruz - that's kinda strange.
For the attention, probably.
Warlord23
01-19-2016, 08:34 PM
Palin does endorse Trump and Iowa's governor wants Cruz defeated. Wonder why Palin endorsed Trump and not Cruz - that's kinda strange.
Aren't the similarities obvious? Trump can't keep his hole shut ... and neither can Palin's daughter.
Palin endorsing Trump is cold considering what Trump said about John McCain. :lol
LOL what does Palin bring to the table? She doesn't have that many supporters. Actually she has none so this gains Trump nothing.
MultiTroll
01-19-2016, 11:45 PM
Palin Endorsement Widens Trump’s Lead Among Idiots
Got to love it.
Track Palin, 26, was arrested late on Monday night after authorities responded to a domestic disturbance call at a home in Wasilla, Alaska, police said in a statement.
"An investigation revealed Track Palin had committed a domestic violence assault on a female, interfered with her ability to report a crime of domestic violence and possessed a firearm while intoxicated," the statement said.
Got to love it.
Track Palin, 26, was arrested late on Monday night after authorities responded to a domestic disturbance call at a home in Wasilla, Alaska, police said in a statement.
"An investigation revealed Track Palin had committed a domestic violence assault on a female, interfered with her ability to report a crime of domestic violence and possessed a firearm while intoxicated," the statement said.
What the fuck kind of name is Track? :lmao inbred fucks.
SnakeBoy
01-20-2016, 01:29 AM
LOL what does Palin bring to the table? She doesn't have that many supporters. Actually she has none so this gains Trump nothing.
It's all about Iowa. The supporters she does have are mainly evangelicals and it's evangelicals keeping Cruz in contention in Iowa. If the polls are to be believed then Trump is sure to win NH and SC. So if he skims enough away from Cruz with Palins help and wins Iowa as well then he's probably locked up the nomination.
baseline bum
01-20-2016, 01:35 AM
What the fuck kind of name is Track? :lmao inbred fucks.
I thought it was a made up name from boutons' retarded Borowitz Report. :lol
Holy fuck that trailer trash gives all her kids retard names? I thought it was just Trig. Makes me think of the Biggus Dickus scene in Life of Brian.
I thought it was a made up name from boutons' retarded Borowitz Report. :lol
Holy fuck that trailer trash gives all her kids retard names? I thought it was just Trig. Makes me think of the Biggus Dickus scene in Life of Brian.
Well, that trailer trash knowingly brought a Down's Syndrome child into the world and didn't take the easy way out and abort it. That is frightening, takes courage and a lot of work.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/29/trig-paxson-van-palin-sar_n_122474.html
http://www.lifenews.com/2009/11/23/state-4591/
baseline bum
01-20-2016, 08:41 AM
Well, that trailer trash knowingly brought a Down's Syndrome child into the world and didn't take the easy way out and abort it. That is frightening, takes courage and a lot of work.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/29/trig-paxson-van-palin-sar_n_122474.html
That shit happens when an old bitch has a kid.
That shit happens when an old bitch has a kid.
Yes, an older woman has a higher chance, but it happens to young women too. My neighbor's second child (in her twenties) has Down Syndrome - those tend to be a big shock as they don't check at that age.
boutons_deux
01-20-2016, 09:36 AM
pitbull bitch is as dumb, ignorant as ever.
a drunk son who is a partner abuser
a daughter is unmarried mother of two kids by two different guys.
the Bible humping, holy rollin evangelical Taliban have so much to love and respect
mrsmaalox
01-20-2016, 10:03 AM
Well, that trailer trash knowingly brought a Down's Syndrome child into the world and didn't take the easy way out and abort it. That is frightening, takes courage and a lot of work.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/29/trig-paxson-van-palin-sar_n_122474.html
http://www.lifenews.com/2009/11/23/state-4591/
Absolutely. When a woman of means who has access to the best medical care chooses to raise a special child she is courageous and hard working. Goes to show how cowardly and lazy those skanks are who live in less advantageous conditions and would rather take the "easy way out" than raise a special needs child.
boutons_deux
01-20-2016, 10:51 AM
Another GOP pundit eyes third-party movement
For months, Republicans were afraid Trump would leave the GOP and run as a third-party candidate.
But what if Trump wins the GOP nomination, and some Republicans create a third party of their own?
==============
About a month ago, the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol raised the prospect of creating a new party (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gops-kristol-semi-serious-talk-about-third-party-initiative) to compete against Republicans if Donald Trump is the GOP’s nominee. Pressed on his plans, Kristol said he’s “semi-serious,” adding, “f Trump were to be the nominee, I’d be open to a new party, probably for 2016 only.”
Yesterday, Hugh Hewitt spoke with the Washington Post’s George Will, a prominent Republican pundit in his own right, who said something similar (http://www.hughhewitt.com/george-will-donald-trump/) about what would happen if Trump wins the GOP nomination.
“[Y]ou would also figure that there would be movement to have a third-party candidate because if the election is Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump, this will be the first election since God knows when, there was no real conservative candidate. […]
“ I cast my vote for Barry Goldwater who valued that classic, creative defeat of his because he took the Republican Party and said, ‘Henceforth it will be a conservative party.’ Those of us who feel that way are not about to sit idly and see the Republican Party which was saved by William Howard Taft to 1912 for conservatism that was reclaimed by Barry Goldwater for conservatism, we’re not going to let it disappear in 2016.”
As a rule, it’s unusual to hear prominent national media figures be quite this open about their allegiance to a political party, using words like “us” and “we” to describe Republicans.
But what does George Will think he’ll be able to do, exactly? He’s “not going to let” true Republicanism suffer at the hands of Trump, and he refuses to “sit idly by,” but how does he intend to prevent it?
It seems awfully likely that Republicans like Will and Kristol may have grand ambitions about a third party, which would bravely run a [I]real GOP candidate against the official GOP candidate, but the logistics (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/28/bill-kristol-is-semi-serious-about-launching-a-new-third-party-thats-a-bad-idea/) of such an idea, among other things, make this little more than a fantasy of frustrated insiders.
The broader circumstances, though, are increasingly amusing. For months, the fear among Republicans was that Trump would decide he’d been treated “unfairly” and would therefore run as an independent.
Little did we know we’d be hearing talk from inside-the-Beltway Republicans about launching a third-party effort [I]against Trump.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/another-gop-pundit-eyes-third-party-movement?cid=sm_fb_maddow
Another GOP pundit eyes third-party movement
For months, Republicans were afraid Trump would leave the GOP and run as a third-party candidate.
But what if Trump wins the GOP nomination, and some Republicans create a third party of their own?
==============
About a month ago, the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol raised the prospect of creating a new party (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gops-kristol-semi-serious-talk-about-third-party-initiative) to compete against Republicans if Donald Trump is the GOP’s nominee. Pressed on his plans, Kristol said he’s “semi-serious,” adding, “f Trump were to be the nominee, I’d be open to a new party, probably for 2016 only.”
Yesterday, Hugh Hewitt spoke with the Washington Post’s George Will, a prominent Republican pundit in his own right, who said something similar (http://www.hughhewitt.com/george-will-donald-trump/) about what would happen if Trump wins the GOP nomination.
“[Y]ou would also figure that there would be movement to have a third-party candidate because if the election is Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump, this will be the first election since God knows when, there was no real conservative candidate. […]
“ I cast my vote for Barry Goldwater who valued that classic, creative defeat of his because he took the Republican Party and said, ‘Henceforth it will be a conservative party.’ Those of us who feel that way are not about to sit idly and see the Republican Party which was saved by William Howard Taft to 1912 for conservatism that was reclaimed by Barry Goldwater for conservatism, we’re not going to let it disappear in 2016.”
As a rule, it’s unusual to hear prominent national media figures be quite this open about their allegiance to a political party, using words like “us” and “we” to describe Republicans.
But what does George Will think he’ll be able to do, exactly? He’s “not going to let” true Republicanism suffer at the hands of Trump, and he refuses to “sit idly by,” but how does he intend to prevent it?
It seems awfully likely that Republicans like Will and Kristol may have grand ambitions about a third party, which would bravely run a [I]real GOP candidate against the official GOP candidate, but the logistics (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/28/bill-kristol-is-semi-serious-about-launching-a-new-third-party-thats-a-bad-idea/) of such an idea, among other things, make this little more than a fantasy of frustrated insiders.
The broader circumstances, though, are increasingly amusing. For months, the fear among Republicans was that Trump would decide he’d been treated “unfairly” and would therefore run as an independent.
Little did we know we’d be hearing talk from inside-the-Beltway Republicans about launching a third-party effort [I]against Trump.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/another-gop-pundit-eyes-third-party-movement?cid=sm_fb_maddow
This is just noise and frustration. They will support Trump.
#TrumpCard
boutons_deux
01-20-2016, 11:00 AM
This is just noise and frustration. They will support Trump.
#TrumpCard
not necessarily. They will realized that Trump will slaughtered by Bernie or Hillary, handing the WH to the Dems for another 8 years, and not bother to waste their stamp or time voting.
not necessarily. They will realized that Trump will slaughtered by Bernie or Hillary, handing the WH to the Dems for another 8 years, and not bother to waste their stamp or time voting.
You're kidding yourself. Trump is not going to get slaughtered. And once he wins the nomination, then he will really gain momentum. Fact is he can outspend hillary or bernie. His friend Carl Icahn even has $150M sitting in a superpac ready to take things to another level.
boutons_deux
01-20-2016, 11:08 AM
What Sarah Palin Really Wants From Her Donald Trump Endorsement
Does the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice presidential candidate want anything in return?
Most likely, yes — Palin, who popularized the term “drill, baby, drill,” has said she’d like to be Trump’s Secretary of Energy (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/09/06/3699123/sarah-palin-energy-secretary/).
And Trump has said he’d be willing to give Palin a position in his cabinet, should he be elected president.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/19/3740724/sarah-palin-donald-trump-endorsement/
boutons_deux
01-20-2016, 11:11 AM
You're kidding yourself. Trump is not going to get slaughtered. And once he wins the nomination, then he will really gain momentum. Fact is he can outspend hillary or bernie. His friend Carl Icahn even has $150M sitting in a superpac ready to take things to another level.
:lol rightwingnuts live in a fantasyland.
So Trump is gonna buy the WH?
women, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, young, LGBT gonna vote Repug after voting decisively Dem in 08 and 12? :lol
Trump, Krazy Kruz supporters are so fucking stupid, gullible, ignorant, and Trump, KK know it.
You're going to see record turnout for the GOP and a record number of older people flipping to Trump. Hillary has trust issues and democrats are NOT excited about her. Look at me, I am a life long democrat who voted for Obama and I'm flipping for the first time ever. Voting for Hillary is like voting for a less intelligent, less trustworthy and more corporate version of Obama... How exciting!!! :rolleyes
boutons_deux
01-20-2016, 11:37 AM
:lol
Trump has racism, xenophobia, misogynist, entitlement, psychological, truth, etc ... issues
clambake
01-20-2016, 11:50 AM
:lol
Trump has racism, xenophobia, misogynist, entitlement, psychological, truth, etc ... issues
thats why he's appealing.
boutons_deux
01-20-2016, 12:00 PM
thats why he's appealing.
but the assholes that subscribe to those "issues" are numerous enough to put him in the WH.
clambake
01-20-2016, 12:04 PM
but the assholes that subscribe to those "issues" are numerous enough to put him in the WH.
so....his strategy has been a success?
boutons_deux
01-20-2016, 12:21 PM
so....his strategy has been a success?
... with the assholes, yes. They'd all make Good Germans behind their macho Strong Man
boutons_deux
01-20-2016, 04:02 PM
Sarah Palin blames her son’s domestic violence arrest on Obam
Former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin suggested Wednesday that President Barack Obama was to blame for the arrest of her son Track on domestic violence charges.Palin noted during a political rally in Tulsa that her 26-year-old son had served in Iraq. “My son, like so many others, they come back a bit different. They come back hardened,” she remarked in a video published by Right Wing Watch (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/sarah-palin-blames-sons-alleged-domestic-abuse-obama).
Palin said her son suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder, and that Obama had made his situation worse by allegedly disrespecting veterans.
(lots of Palin word salad )
“So when my own son is going through what he goes through coming back, I can certainly relate with other families who kind of feel these ramifications of some PTSD and some of the woundedness that our soldiers do return with, and it makes me realize more than ever, it is now or never for the sake of America’s finest that we’ll have that commander in chief who will respect them and honor them,”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/sarah-palin-blames-her-sons-domestic-violence-arrest-on-obama/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Obama's budget for the VA is up $5.2B. We'll see if Repug assholes actually spend it.
boutons_deux
01-21-2016, 10:53 AM
Last night, Donald Trump took credit (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-cnn-don-lemon-palin-218051) for the rhetoric, saying he “suggested” to Palin that she talk about the issue.
As Rachel noted (https://twitter.com/maddow/status/689978153301835776) on Twitter late yesterday, some veterans were not pleased (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/vets-dont-blame-obama-track-palins-behavior) with Palin’s rhetoric.
Don’t blame President Obama for the PTSD that Sarah Palin claims her oldest son is battling.
That was the message Wednesday from the head of a New York City-based veteran’s organization that has fought for years to get Iraq and Afghanistan war vets help with their post traumatic stress disorder.
“It’s not President Obama’s fault that Sarah Palin’s son has PTSD,” said Paul Rieckhoff, who heads Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA). “PTSD is a very serious problem, a complicated mental health injury and I would be extremely reluctant to blame any one person in particular…. I hope this doesn’t become a portable chew toy in a political campaign,” he said.
It’s quite simple: bringing attention to PTSD is worthwhile; using PTSD as some of partisan cudgel to take cheap shots at the president is not.
For that matter, the idea that the Obama administration has somehow been lax in helping veterans returning with PTSD is plainly wrong. There’s ample evidence pointing in the opposite direction, with the White House expanding (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/13/us/politics/obama-signs-suicide-prevention-for-veterans-act-into-law.html) treatment (http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/09/veterans.ptsd) options (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/08/31/fact-sheet-president-obama-signs-executive-order-improve-access-mental-h) several times over the course of several years.
In other words, this line of attack isn’t just ugly; it’s also untrue.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/vets-balk-after-palin-connects-ptsd-obama?cid=sm_fb_maddow
Biggest elephant in the room, the context and history Repugs depend on 10Ms of Americans are to be stupid to remember:
Track :lol went to Iraq to fight the Repug LOST war-for-oil.
Sarah Palin's freestyle campaign speeches are among the most bizarre things in the history of American politics. They may not be the most bizarre, but they are up there in their own unique way.
RandomGuy
01-21-2016, 11:10 AM
[B]Palin Endorsement Widens Trump’s Lead Among Idiots
While Trump was previously thought to have a lock on the idiot vote heading into the Iowa caucuses, a recent surge by Senator Ted Cruz, of Texas, has put the idiots back in play.
Cruz has worked tirelessly in recent weeks to tailor his message to undecided idiots, even revamping his stump speech to rid it of two-syllable words.
“That’s why Palin supporting Trump and not Cruz is such a win for us,” the Trump aide said. “She’s been out of politics for awhile, but she still has idiot cred.”[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
The aide said that no one should be surprised by the bond between Palin and Trump. “They’re both reality-show hosts,” he said. “And by lowering the bar in 2008, Palin singlehandedly made Trump’s candidacy possible.”
But even as the Trump campaign staffers celebrate the Palin endorsement, they recognize that they still have their work cut out for them to secure victory in Iowa. “Getting the idiots to support Trump is only half the battle,” the aide said. “Now we have to make sure that they make it to the caucuses without getting lost on the way.”
:lol
RandomGuy
01-21-2016, 11:14 AM
Sarah Palin's freestyle campaign speeches are among the most bizarre things in the history of American politics. They may not be the most bizarre, but they are up there in their own unique way.
Pentacostal.
Remember these are the dip-di-doo-dahs who Speak In Tongues
http://www.skeptical-science.com/religion/speaking-in-tongues-the-real-story/
That makes her blabbering a lot more contextual.
CosmicCowboy
01-21-2016, 11:55 AM
I think she is hilarious. This political season is gonna be fun to watch with trump and Bernie.
boutons_deux
01-21-2016, 12:10 PM
WATCH: Colbert Just Shreds Sarah Palin's Trump Endorsement—Offers Up His Own Palinesque Plugs
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/watch-colbert-just-shreds-sarah-palins-trump-endorsement-offers-his-own-palinesque
boutons_deux
01-21-2016, 02:17 PM
This is an example the trash you racist, xenophobic, Christian Sharia Trump supporters run with:
Trump supporter goes bonkers on student in MLK shirt: ‘If you’re a Muslim you follow Satan!’
A college student had a loud confrontation with supporters of GOP front runner Donald Trump who were insisting passionately that all Muslims are murderous.Kiernan Majerus-Collins, a student at Bates College in Maine, was kicked out of a Trump rally earlier this month (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/watch-enraged-trump-supporters-attack-man-for-quietly-sitting-with-americas-already-great-sign/) for sitting quietly holding protest signs. On Monday, bystanders with cell phone cameras again caught Majerus-Collins tangling with rally-goers, according to the Hartford Courant (http://www.courant.com/politics/capitol-watch/hc-west-hartford-man-has-another-confrontation-with-trump-supporters-story.html).
The student wore a t-shirt bearing the phrase “I have a dream.” In the video, he is yelled at primarily by an older man in a suit bent on the idea that all Muslims are on the verge of committing massacres.
“Let me tell you about my friends whose heads got cut off, their genitals got cut off, by Muslims who killed them!” the man hollers. “You don’t know a f*cking thing! Pull your head out of your ass!”
“If you’re a Muslim, you follow Satan! Wake up,” the man says, then continues yelling. “You know what a moderate Muslim is? A moderate Muslim when somebody else chops somebody else’s head off and doesn’t do anything!”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/trump-supporter-goes-bonkers-on-student-in-mlk-shirt-if-youre-a-muslim-you-follow-satan/
I think she is hilarious. This political season is gonna be fun to watch with trump and Bernie.
You probably voted for her... you almost put this one heart beat away from the presidency, if so (and yes, so... :lol )
This was one of her more interesting lines:
“We’re talking about no more Reaganesque power that comes from strength. Power through strength.”
NYT Analysis: Whoops! Mrs. Palin seems to be grasping for President Ronald Reagan’s signature Cold War slogan, “Peace through strength.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us/politics/sarah-palin-endorsement-speech-donald-trump.html?mabReward=A6&_r=0
boutons_deux
01-21-2016, 02:35 PM
More America the Beautiful from very probable Trump/Repug supporters
‘My heart is so broken now’: Muslim man beaten for speaking Arabic on Philadelphia street
Amine Aouam, 34, told Metro (http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/muslim-says-he-was-beat-in-center-city-attack-for-speaking-arabic/zsJpas---SSPwzymZmBUI/) that he was walking home after getting a drink with a friend on Saturday night when he encountered “a group of five or six white people.”
He recalled that one of the women in the group seemed to be staring at them while they spoke a Moroccan dialect of Arabic.
“I said to her in Arabic, ‘Good evening,’ which is ‘Masaa al-Khair,'” he explained. “She said ‘What?’ and I said, ‘I just said ‘Good evening.’ Then I walked. And the guy next to her was like ‘Stop this sh*t!’”
Youssef Amarouch, who was walking with Aouam, had a clearer recollection.
“Take that sh*t you said and shove it up in your ass,” Amarouch remembered the man saying.
Amarouch said that while Aouam was speaking to one of the men, another man “sucker-punched him from behind,” according to Metro.
“The guy came from his side and just punched him so bad. The first part of his body that hit the ground was his head,” Amarouch noted. “The whole thing happened in 10 seconds.”
The next thing Aouam remembered was waking up in the hospital.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/my-heart-is-so-broken-now-muslim-man-beaten-for-speaking-arabic-on-philadelphia-street/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
RandomGuy
01-21-2016, 02:56 PM
I think she is hilarious. This political season is gonna be fun to watch with trump and Bernie.
Her appeal to the GOP voters who like her is cultural, not ideological. Such folk, said Mrs Palin in her endorsement speech, are “Right-wingin’, bitter clingin’, proud clingers of our guns, our God, and our religions, and our constitution”. Her target audience did not need to understand what she meant by that, fortunately, to recognise Mrs Palin, a huntin’-fishin’ grandmother, who gets her wires crossed on intellectual matters (in her speech in Iowa she made references to “squirmishes” in the Middle East) as one of their own. “Trump and his, uh, uh, uh, Trumpeters, they’re not conservative enough?” she cried. “Oh my goodness gracious. What the heck would the establishment know about conservatism?”
Squirmish :lol
I guess that makes me a "Trumpeter". Does that also mean I play the trumpet?
boutons_deux
01-21-2016, 03:32 PM
I guess that makes me a "Trumpeter". Does that also mean I play the trumpet?
you blow Trump's horn
Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-21-2016, 08:07 PM
http://i.imgur.com/lp3gq4l.jpg
boutons_deux
01-22-2016, 03:12 PM
Trump on Oscar outrage: 'The Whites' don't get BET nominations
While Donald Trump is "sad" about black actors being shut out for Oscar nominations (http://m.sfgate.com/news/politics/election/article/chron.com/entertainment/movies/article/Oscar-acting-noms-go-white-again-6759294.php), he reasons that white people do not get nominated for Black Entertainment Television (http://www.bet.com/) Awards.
"I think it's a tough situation. I think it's really sad," Trump said Wednesday on "Fox and Friends" when asked about the lack of black nominees.
Earlier in the show, Fox News contributor Stacey Dash claimed channels such as BET segregate the population (https://twitter.com/IamAkademiks/status/689840877502623745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw), adding that "If we don't want segregation then we need to get rid of channels like BET and the BET Awards and the [NAACP] Image Awards, where you are only awarded if you are black," Dash said.
http://m.sfgate.com/news/politics/election/article/Trump-The-Whites-don-t-get-BET-nominations-6772400.php
Stacey Dash? a serious journalist/commentator
https://mrmilitantnegro.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/stacey-dash-nude-big-screen-beauty-07.jpg?w=750&h=937
http://www.hip-hopvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Stacey-Dash.jpg
boutons_deux
01-22-2016, 03:57 PM
WATCH: Colbert Rips Trump's Evangelical Panderfest and Utter Idiocy About John Wayne
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/watch-colbert-rips-trumps-evangelical-panderfest-and-utter-idiocy-about-john-wayne
Splits
01-23-2016, 05:24 PM
http://images.dailykos.com/images/198075/story_image/1.png?1453272774
tlongII
01-23-2016, 06:02 PM
Trump on Oscar outrage: 'The Whites' don't get BET nominations
While Donald Trump is "sad" about black actors being shut out for Oscar nominations (http://m.sfgate.com/news/politics/election/article/chron.com/entertainment/movies/article/Oscar-acting-noms-go-white-again-6759294.php), he reasons that white people do not get nominated for Black Entertainment Television (http://www.bet.com/) Awards.
"I think it's a tough situation. I think it's really sad," Trump said Wednesday on "Fox and Friends" when asked about the lack of black nominees.
Earlier in the show, Fox News contributor Stacey Dash claimed channels such as BET segregate the population (https://twitter.com/IamAkademiks/status/689840877502623745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw), adding that "If we don't want segregation then we need to get rid of channels like BET and the BET Awards and the [NAACP] Image Awards, where you are only awarded if you are black," Dash said.
http://m.sfgate.com/news/politics/election/article/Trump-The-Whites-don-t-get-BET-nominations-6772400.php
Stacey Dash? a serious journalist/commentator
https://mrmilitantnegro.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/stacey-dash-nude-big-screen-beauty-07.jpg?w=750&h=937
http://www.hip-hopvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Stacey-Dash.jpg
I'd hit it.
hitmanyr2k
01-23-2016, 06:09 PM
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay? It's, like, incredible." –Donald Trump
Trump is basically calling his supporters idiots with that line :lol
boutons_deux
01-24-2016, 10:30 AM
Donald Trump Says He Could Shoot Somebody and Not Lose Votes
“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters, OK?” To laughter, he added, “It’s like it’s incredible.”
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/24/donald-trump-shoot-lose-votes.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
... but he doesn't have enough votes from losers to win the WH
boutons_deux
01-24-2016, 11:11 AM
Tina Fey: Actress Returns to 'Saturday Night Live' to Impersonate Sarah Palin's Endorsement Speech
https://www.facebook.com/snl/videos/10153867689976303/
boutons_deux
01-24-2016, 12:46 PM
Top Trump official defends call for ‘pure breed’ president
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/top-trump-official-defends-call-for-pure-breed-president-obama-is-a-half-breed-and-so-am-i/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
and the White Nationalist/Aryan B'hood go crazy.
boutons_deux
01-24-2016, 09:50 PM
Republicans' White Working-Class Trap: A Growing Reliance
Plenty of politicos and pundits have rationalized Donald Trump's political ascent as the result of his enormous popularity among white working-class voters (http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2016/01/01-trump-taking-advantage-of-anxiety-mcelvein).
No doubt Trump is well-liked by many college-educated Republicans, but his real strength is among those without a bachelor's degree. In that demographic, most polls show the business-mogul-turned-GOP-presidential-candidate is trouncing his Republican rivals.
In fact, the main reason Trump is leading national polls (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/12/22/cnnpoll.pdf) is because he dominates the white non-college world.
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/18/462027861/republicans-white-working-class-trap-a-growing-reliance?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20160124&utm_campaign=bestofnpr&utm_term=nprnews
Winehole23
01-25-2016, 09:51 AM
the main reason Trump is leading national polls (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/12/22/cnnpoll.pdf) is because he dominates the white non-college world.
and not because that cohort is particularly conservative. on the contrary, it's the Reagan Democrats, plus disaffected voters from all over the spectrum:
By focusing on his Trump’s really brutal policies (especially his stances on illegal immigration and border security), commentators have ignored how the vast bulk of his positions are to the Left of most of the GOP field. Interestingly, the outing of Trump as a closet liberal was an angle that Fox News used to try to discredit him soon after he entered the race (http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/08/06/video-megyn-kelly-donald-trump-when-did-you-actually-become-republican), but party supporters simply didn’t seem to care. Both Bush (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgKWPcpwFDs) and, more recently, Cruz (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/13/politics/ted-cruz-donald-trump-new-york-values/) have also unsuccessfully attacked on this basis, and the National Review has just published 22 “Against Trump” essays by prominent conservatives (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430126/donald-trump-conservatives-oppose-nomination), some arguing that Trump is not a true conservative. Trump’s strongest support is from GOP voters who self-identify as “moderate/liberal” (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/11/01/outsiders-donald-trump-and-ben-carson-draw-different-gop-crowds/), and he does much better in traditionally moderate-leaning GOP electorates (for example, in northeastern states) than hard Right candidates have in the past.
In case it needs spelling out, in speeches and in his manifesto, Crippled America (http://books.simonandschuster.com.au/Crippled-America/Donald-J-Trump/9781501137969), Trump argues for: protectionist trade policies as part of massively reinvigorating industrial production to create quality jobs; vaguely defined tax cuts and changes to the tax code to promote growth; more funding for schools and health services; replacing Obamacare with a system that brings the insurance companies to heel (until recently he’d even supported single-payer); and rebuilding crumbling infrastructure. It’s a fairly traditional populist, government-led pitch of growing the economy (and the government) out of its problems — and the popularity of the pitch overturns the myth that the disaffected Republican base was dominated by Tea Party style politics (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/trump-tea-party-populist-exposed-213111).
- See more at: http://left-flank.org/2016/01/25/the-trump-paradox-a-rough-guide-for-the-left/#sthash.OwRuUeDR.dpuf
boutons_deux
01-25-2016, 10:30 AM
If Trump gets in the WH, his "progressive/liberal" manifesto will be totally obstructed by the Repugs, as will any progressive stuff from Bernie or Hillary.
Congressional Repugs, along with their asshole judges at all levels (eg, Kennedy's C-U opinion), are the biggest threat to America.
Still waiting for anybody to say how to defeat the slave, red state Repugs.
Winehole23
01-25-2016, 10:54 AM
winning the presidency would give the other party veto power against the more ridiculous things they'll pass.
demographics and internal dissention in the GOP could mean the end of their Congressional majorities within a few presidential cycles.
power ebbs and flows between the two parties. the oligarchy is well served no matter who holds power -- the last eight years of extremist, black Marxist hegemony proves it.
Can you imagine Trump with all that power? He's going to do amazing things for this country -- like you wouldn't believe!!!
boutons_deux
01-25-2016, 11:41 AM
http://esq.h-cdn.co/assets/16/03/480x240/landscape-1453647422-palin.gif
boutons_deux
01-25-2016, 12:11 PM
PANTS ON FIRE: Sarah Palin’s Abusive Kid Never Saw A Day Of Combat!
People have been questioning Track’s service record ever since he returned from the military. A rumor that dogs him is the courts gave him the choice of the military or jail, after he allegedly cut the brakes (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-blames-obama-son-track-legal-problems-article-1.2503589) on a school bus. Given the choice, he enlisted in 2007.
Track deployed with the Army’s Alaska-based 25th Infantry Division’s 1st Stryker Brigade Combat Team, fittingly known as the “Arctic Wolves (http://winningdemocrats.com/track-palin-didnt-see-a-single-second-of-combat-before-obama-and-ptsd-made-him-beat-his-girlfriend/).”
Jason Kirell is one of the soldiers who served with Track. Here is how he responded to a question about whether or not he saw combat (http://winningdemocrats.com/track-palin-didnt-see-a-single-second-of-combat-before-obama-and-ptsd-made-him-beat-his-girlfriend/):
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/bipartisanreport/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-01-24_12-20-13.jpg
Yes, the military awarded Track a combat service medal for his Iraq tour, but a form is circulating on Twitter brings the merit of that medal into question:
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/bipartisanreport/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/12493546_963342980427179_2916772553205746552_o.jpg
Republicans George W. Bush and water-boarding Dick Cheney dragged us into Iraq, but in a near-unanimous vote, Republican senators rejected a $24 billion bill (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-blames-obama-son-track-legal-problems-article-1.2503589) that would have expanded healthcare for veterans, including PTSD.
Then, they passed a bill slashing $16 billion (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-blames-obama-son-track-legal-problems-article-1.2503589) in services to vets, even though the Congressional Budget Office estimated the cost of healthcare for returning vets at $35 billion, just through the year 2017.
Fine, here’s hoping PTSD strikes rigid each of you military service-avoiding politicians, horrific nightmares plague you, and you sweat through your sheets every night.
Track was charged (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-blames-obama-son-track-legal-problems-article-1.2503589) with fourth-degree assault, interfering with the report of a domestic violence crime, and possession of a firearm while intoxicated. All the charges are Class A misdemeanors.
So save it, Sarah. We’re onto your racket.
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/01/24/pants-on-fire-sarah-palins-abusive-kid-never-saw-a-day-of-combat-document/
Obama saying things about our military gave him the PTSD, not combat. Isn't that her actual claim?
boutons_deux
01-25-2016, 03:14 PM
Donald Trump got lucky: He’s only winning because he’s competing against clowns and losers
http://www.salon.com/2016/01/25/donald_trump_got_lucky_hes_only_winning_because_he s_competing_against_clowns_and_losers/
Donald Trump got lucky: He’s only winning because he’s competing against clowns and losers
http://www.salon.com/2016/01/25/donald_trump_got_lucky_hes_only_winning_because_he s_competing_against_clowns_and_losers/
Salon, lol. Trump could beat anyone anywhere in the GOP.
ducks
01-25-2016, 07:25 PM
name one democract president or candidate trump could not beat
that is what I thought NO ONE BOUTONS
boutons_deux
01-25-2016, 08:15 PM
FWIW, national polls have shown Bernie and Hillary both beating Trump, and Bernie beating Trump by a bigger %age than Hillary.
Nbadan
01-26-2016, 01:11 AM
name one democract president or candidate trump could not beat
:lol Ducks.....said the same thing about McCain and Romney....
RandomGuy
01-26-2016, 10:26 AM
name one democract president or candidate trump could not beat
that is what I thought NO ONE BOUTONS
Imagine a three person voting system, person A, person B, and person C.
A votes one way
C votes the opposite of A on everything.
On any given vote who casts the deciding vote?
After you answer that in your head, then who really gets to make the decisions?
If Democrats vote for Democrats, and Republicans vote for Republicans then who picks the president?
After you have answered that question in your head, tell me how moderates and independents will vote for someone who has a history of making extremist statements.
Why will they ignore those extreme statements and vote for Trump over ANY more moderate person?
tlongII
01-26-2016, 10:37 AM
Trump could absolutely beat Hillary or Bernie. Hillary is a proven liar who might just get indicted prior to the election. And if you think Trump is more extreme than Bernie then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-26-2016, 11:12 AM
Trump bullying niggas
Starting with a classic
d32577Hom08
http://i.imgur.com/falML08.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iV5Z7l3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gVozwJX.jpg
Sportcamper
01-26-2016, 12:01 PM
Dirk Oneanddoneski...Donald's Huffington hack…LMAO…:lmao
boutons_deux
01-26-2016, 04:36 PM
Republican rivals launch effort to villainize Donald Trump
Republicans are testing out new lines of attack on Donald Trump meant to portray him as a ruthless dealmaker who sought to make money at any cost — even if he hurt working people in the process.
The attacks are meant to go after one of Trump’s greatest strengths: that he is a consummate business dealmaker who can bring those skills to the White House and better America’s position with the rest of the world.
Ted Cruz’s campaign has launched an ad that accused Trump of colluding with “Atlantic City insiders to bulldoze the home of an elderly widow for a limousine parking lot at his casino.” The elderly woman is shown on screen saying of Trump, “He doesn’t have no heart, that man.”Team Cruz, which is fighting for supremacy with Trump in the Feb. 1 Iowa caucuses, makes no apologies for the hit.
“The idea is that eminent domain is for the public good and he attempted to use it for personal gain,” said Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler, in a telephone interview with The Hill. “It gives people the sense that, when [Trump] talks about the art of the deal … somebody’s going to get screwed.
“He doesn’t have a record of doing anything for the public good. He has a record of paying off Democratic politicians and the party, and now he’s claiming that they are the people destroying the country.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/267059-republican-rivals-launch-effort-to-villainize-donald-trump
Trump is not going to the next debate therefore I will NOT be watching.
boutons_deux
01-26-2016, 09:49 PM
Trump is not going to the next debate therefore I will NOT be watching.
I bet he folds, OR Fox removes Meagen. WAY TOO much ad $$$ to be lost of DT bails.
I bet he folds, OR Fox removes Meagen. WAY TOO much ad $$$ to be lost of DT bails.
I bet he doesn't fold and Fox doesn't remove Meagen. Both have too much pride to fold in this standoff.
Don't think this was a good move by Trump. They'll all be beating up on him and he won't be there to defend himself. Cruz is already saying that if he can't handle Meagan, how's he gonna handle Putin? He's gonna take a lot of heat from this. His only upside will be if the ratings aren't good without him.
The Reckoning
01-26-2016, 11:45 PM
Trump is troll of the century. He doesn't want to be president. It's just an ego trip and he can't believe how far he's gotten. Of course he'll pull out of the debates aka the primaries.
MultiTroll
01-27-2016, 12:06 AM
Battle of the two phony users.
Can Faux give up the ratings $$$?
For this one time they will.
Aztecfan03
01-27-2016, 08:53 AM
Trump would get killed in the general election. And if it's sanders and trump, i would actually vote sanders because i'd like to see a conservative in the wite house in 2021 if we cant get one in 2017.
If it's hillary and trump, i would write someone in though.
Aztecfan03
01-27-2016, 08:57 AM
Imagine a three person voting system, person A, person B, and person C.
A votes one way
C votes the opposite of A on everything.
On any given vote who casts the deciding vote?
After you answer that in your head, then who really gets to make the decisions?
If Democrats vote for Democrats, and Republicans vote for Republicans then who picks the president?
After you have answered that question in your head, tell me how moderates and independents will vote for someone who has a history of making extremist statements.
Why will they ignore those extreme statements and vote for Trump over ANY more moderate person?
I'm staunchly conservative but would vote for someone as far left wing as sanders over trump. Trump is Obama 2.0 but with more terrible qualities.
Aztecfan03
01-27-2016, 08:58 AM
Trummp Calls Megyn Kelly a bimbo by "refusing to call her a bimbo"
692312112115380224
ChumpDumper
01-27-2016, 10:55 AM
lol what a pussy Trump turned out to be.
boutons_deux
01-27-2016, 11:04 AM
Pussy, maybe, but they are all frauds, liars.
But he's using his power to screw Fox, RNC, and Repugs in general, a party that is really really screwed itself.
Sportcamper
01-27-2016, 11:09 AM
Megyn Kelly might be a lightweight reporter but DANG she looked HOT last night…Michael Moore was salivating all over that…
http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/a65-410x220.jpg
Aztecfan03
01-27-2016, 11:10 AM
I haven't watched much of the debates, but i will definitely watch this one since Sideshow Don won't be there.
I haven't watched much of the debates, but i will definitely watch this one since Sideshow Don won't be there.
They won't be half as entertaining without Trump. May I ask why a staunch conservative would vote for Bernie over Trump. To me, Bernie is (sincere but) waaay out there.
RandomGuy
01-27-2016, 11:16 AM
Trump could absolutely beat Hillary or Bernie. Hillary is a proven liar who might just get indicted prior to the election. And if you think Trump is more extreme than Bernie then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Trump is a phony who is playing his followers like cheap violins. Note that I said "extremist statements".
Again, tell me how the moderates who actually decide the elections will pick Trump over Sanders/Hillary?
RandomGuy
01-27-2016, 11:17 AM
lol what a pussy Trump turned out to be.
Nah, it is another publicity stunt. Don't confuse pussy-ness for cynicism.
RandomGuy
01-27-2016, 11:21 AM
Trump is troll of the century. He doesn't want to be president. It's just an ego trip and he can't believe how far he's gotten. Of course he'll pull out of the debates aka the primaries.
I see someone else has my theory. One has to wonder though, if he is pulling out because he wants to flame out before the nomination, or if he has actually convinced himself he can/should try to win, and this is another publicity stunt.
RandomGuy
01-27-2016, 11:23 AM
if he can't handle Meagan, how's he gonna handle Putin?
It will be a bromance made in heaven. What is there to handle when you have a bizarre mutual admiration club?
Enjoy your crap ratings, Fox News. This is what you get for not treating Trump with respect. The statement Fox News put out was totally shameful and a disgrace.
I'm glad he's not going to the debate. We need someone who isn't going to take crap from people anymore. Our country needs this.
Trill Clinton
01-27-2016, 01:41 PM
(http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/republicans-point-fingers-who-let-trump-get-this-far-218260#ixzz3yPC9PQSB)With time running out until the first primary votes are cast, establishment Republicans have begun a ferocious round of finger-pointing over who is to blame for the party’s failure to stop Donald Trump.
The chiding, once limited to private conversations, is now erupting in public view — with campaigns, operatives, donors, party officials and conservative intellectuals arguing over why something hasn’t been done to stop the man who has been leading nearly every state and national poll since August. Trump, many in the GOP’s upper ranks are convinced, would lead the Republican Party to an epic defeat in November, with consequences all the way down the ballot.
“This whole thing is a disaster,” said Curt Anderson, a former Republican National Committee political director and veteran operative. “I think I’ll write a book about it.”
Receiving much of the blame is Right to Rise, the cash-flush super PAC that broke records when it announced last year that it had raised more than $100 million in support of Jeb Bush. The group has directed relatively little of that sum toward attacking Trump — instead focusing its efforts on taking down Bush’s establishment rivals, above all Marco Rubio. To date, the group has spent about $5 million on TV commercials going after Trump, while dropping four times as much in negative ads against Rubio. The latest spot, which came Tuesday, hammered (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/jeb-bush-marco-rubio-super-pac-218255) Rubio over his messy financial history.
Right to Rise, with its nearly limitless resources, had the best chance to wage a concerted campaign to take down the real estate mogul, many are convinced — and they blame Mike Murphy, the group’s chief strategist, for missing the opportunity. While Bush often personally went after Trump on the campaign trail and in debates — even calling him a “jerk” and then cutting an ad about it — his super PAC usually hasn’t.
In recent days, those once-quiet complaints have become a roar. Stephen Hayes, an influential Weekly Standard columnist, blasted Right to Rise for a strategy that effectively “cleared the way for Trump.” Katie Packer, who served as Mitt Romney’s deputy campaign manager during the 2012 election and has been trying to orchestrate an anti-Trump effort (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/donald-trump-super-pacs-iowa-cruz-218216), lamented that just 10 percent of the super PAC’s $100 million “could have had a significant impact.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/republicans-point-fingers-who-let-trump-get-this-far-218260#ixzz3yTIpuHlM
(http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/republicans-point-fingers-who-let-trump-get-this-far-218260#ixzz3yPC9PQSB)
Trill Clinton
01-27-2016, 01:46 PM
republicans and their decades of fear mongering and peddling hate brought them to this point. trump is the "hero" to fight their fears, so the republican party can't fight trump without admitting all that fear mongering and hate was built on lies or risk losing voters.
boutons_deux
01-27-2016, 02:20 PM
Repugs have been peddling "hate/destroy govt and govt IS THE PROBLEM" for 35+ years, a fundamental tenet of VRWC strategy.
Repug propaganda that govt IS the problem was always silly because the Repugs WERE the govt for 12 years, and the again the 8-year Reign of Repug Error under dubya.
Finally (some) Repug voters who have been fucked over by Repugs are, consistent with "hate/destroy govt", realizing they've been fucked over and going for a trashy "outsider" rather than Repug establishment Klowns.
ChumpDumper
01-27-2016, 03:55 PM
Nah, it is another publicity stunt. Don't confuse pussy-ness for cynicism.I guess, but Cruz gets to call him a pussy from here on in.
I guess, but Cruz gets to call him a pussy from here on in.
He can call him whatever he wants. Cruz is more suited for P.M. of Canada.
ChumpDumper
01-27-2016, 04:10 PM
He can call him whatever he wants. Cruz is more suited for P.M. of Canada.And Trump is a pussy.
His being called a pussy is going to be great. It's what makes America great. America will be great again because Trump is a pussy.
boutons_deux
01-27-2016, 04:31 PM
Millions Resent Being Put in Horrible Position of Siding with Megyn Kelly (http://links.newyorker.mkt4334.com/ctt?kn=22&ms=ODQ4MDQ2NAS2&r=MTIwNDQ2Mjk3MDExS0&b=0&j=ODQzMDM4NDMxS0&mt=1&rt=0)Many Americans are calling the state of affairs “intolerable.” (http://links.newyorker.mkt4334.com/ctt?kn=24&ms=ODQ4MDQ2NAS2&r=MTIwNDQ2Mjk3MDExS0&b=0&j=ODQzMDM4NDMxS0&mt=1&rt=0)
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/millions-resent-being-put-in-horrible-position-of-siding-with-megyn-kelly?mbid=nl_160127_Borowitz&CNDID=16733151&spMailingID=8480464&spUserID=MTIwNDQ2Mjk3MDExS0&spJobID=843038431&spReportId=ODQzMDM4NDMxS0
RandomGuy
01-27-2016, 04:34 PM
I guess, but Cruz gets to call him a pussy from here on in.
True. It opens Trump up to an easy attack. Tactical disadvantage, we'll see if it yields any strategic benefits.
RandomGuy
01-27-2016, 04:36 PM
Millions Resent Being Put in Horrible Position of Siding with Megyn Kelly (http://links.newyorker.mkt4334.com/ctt?kn=22&ms=ODQ4MDQ2NAS2&r=MTIwNDQ2Mjk3MDExS0&b=0&j=ODQzMDM4NDMxS0&mt=1&rt=0)Many Americans are calling the state of affairs “intolerable.” (http://links.newyorker.mkt4334.com/ctt?kn=24&ms=ODQ4MDQ2NAS2&r=MTIwNDQ2Mjk3MDExS0&b=0&j=ODQzMDM4NDMxS0&mt=1&rt=0)
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/millions-resent-being-put-in-horrible-position-of-siding-with-megyn-kelly?mbid=nl_160127_Borowitz&CNDID=16733151&spMailingID=8480464&spUserID=MTIwNDQ2Mjk3MDExS0&spJobID=843038431&spReportId=ODQzMDM4NDMxS0
“Never in a million years did I envision a situation where I would be on the same side as Megyn Kelly,” Tracy Klugian, of Butte, Montana, said. “Now that I find myself in just such a situation, let me say this: it’s horrible. Truly horrible.”
“Putting people through the ordeal of siding with Megyn Kelly could be the worst thing Donald Trump has done in this campaign,” Jervis Kentwell, of Norwalk, Connecticut, said. “I know he thinks he’s invulnerable or whatever, but it’s hard to see him recovering from this.”
Harland Dorrinson, a psychologist from Akron, Ohio, has created an online community for people who are suffering from the emotional trauma of momentarily siding with Megyn Kelly.
:lol
And Trump is a pussy.
His being called a pussy is going to be great. It's what makes America great. America will be great again because Trump is a pussy.
You can call him pussy, but one day you'll be calling him President.
RandomGuy
01-27-2016, 04:41 PM
Pittsburgh man's obituary asks voters not to vote for Trump
PITTSBURGH (AP) — A Pittsburgh chiropractor's obituary is asking people to not vote for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, in lieu of sending flowers.
http://news.yahoo.com/pittsburgh-mans-obituary-asks-voters-not-vote-trump-205216474--election.html
RandomGuy
01-27-2016, 04:43 PM
You can call him pussy, but one day you'll be calling him President.
http://thespiritscience.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/article-1269288-095fbc16000005dc-551_634x447_popup-e1273007840660.jpg
Holy crap. Is the sky green there?
TheSanityAnnex
01-27-2016, 06:33 PM
True. It opens Trump up to an easy attack. Tactical disadvantage, we'll see if it yields any strategic benefits.
It already has :lmao
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Aztecfan03
01-27-2016, 07:01 PM
They won't be half as entertaining without Trump. May I ask why a staunch conservative would vote for Bernie over Trump. To me, Bernie is (sincere but) waaay out there.
because trump is liberal anyways and reminds me too much Obama wanting to be a celebrity and all. ANd if trump wins, I don't know if the republicans would have someone run agaisnt him in 2020 and i want a conservative in as soon as possible. Plus like you said, Bernie seems pretty sincere. Everything Trump says is full of shit and he genuinely seems like a terrible person.
Aztecfan03
01-27-2016, 07:03 PM
And I would never watch a debate for entertainment purposes, so there is no downside to trump not being there.
tlongII
01-27-2016, 08:21 PM
Trump is a phony who is playing his followers like cheap violins. Note that I said "extremist statements".
Again, tell me how the moderates who actually decide the elections will pick Trump over Sanders/Hillary?
Bernie would never get elected. Are you kidding me? Trump is actually more moderate than the other republican candidates. Moderates know that. I'm surprised you don't. As far as Hillary goes I've already told you.
tlongII
01-27-2016, 08:31 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/12/16/donald-trump-is-a-textbook-example-of-an-ideological-moderate/
angrydude
01-27-2016, 09:33 PM
Bernie would never get elected. Are you kidding me? Trump is actually more moderate than the other republican candidates. Moderates know that. I'm surprised you don't. As far as Hillary goes I've already told you.
The sad part is that is really true.
Trump is exactly the type of "fighter" mainstream conservatives have been demanding for the past 10 years......and he's mostly liberal.
Aztecfan03
01-27-2016, 11:25 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/12/16/donald-trump-is-a-textbook-example-of-an-ideological-moderate/
Trump is the textbook example of an opportunist.
RandomGuy
01-28-2016, 08:18 AM
Bernie would never get elected. Are you kidding me? Trump is actually more moderate than the other republican candidates. Moderates know that. I'm surprised you don't. As far as Hillary goes I've already told you.
I know Trump holds some moderate views, but his extremist statements will overshadow that by far. There is a reason I say Trump is playing the GOP base like a cheap fiddle.
Again, if you want to sweep "Bernie would never get elected" you miss the populist theme of the election. One just has to wonder which stream of populist will come out to vote.
RandomGuy
01-28-2016, 08:20 AM
Trump is the textbook example of an opportunist.
I think the fact that he isn't going to be in the debate, pretty much proves he isn't serious. I think he is hoping to lose, despite himself, because he is doing far better than he thought he would or wanted to.
His remark "I could shoot someone, and they would still vote for me" would be pretty telling of his mindset/thinking. Even he is shocked at how easily manipulated the GOP base is.
He has gotten enough attention to his brand to meet his own perceived need, although one could be argued that he has effectively damaged it, given the recent counterparty divestitures from some of his joint overseas ventures.
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 09:19 AM
TPR interviewed some Texans, naturally it was hilarious
A lady, probably well off, said inequality was not a problem, because there had always been inequality :lol
A guy said Obama destroyed the US military :lol
etc, etc.
tlongII
01-28-2016, 10:05 AM
I know Trump holds some moderate views, but his extremist statements will overshadow that by far. There is a reason I say Trump is playing the GOP base like a cheap fiddle.
Again, if you want to sweep "Bernie would never get elected" you miss the populist theme of the election. One just has to wonder which stream of populist will come out to vote.
It's just my opinion, but I think the word "socialist" has too many negative connotations to give someone like Bernie a chance any time soon.
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 11:14 AM
It's just my opinion, but I think the word "socialist" has too many negative connotations to give someone like Bernie a chance any time soon.
people don't fucking know what "socialism" is. In general, Americans are not only politically disengaged, disaffected (an strategy objective of the VRWC), but fucking stupid, eg, all Repugs voters, esp supporters of the current Repug Klown Kar riders.
tell us which of Bernie's policies are "socialist" https://berniesanders.com/issues/
tlongII
01-28-2016, 03:51 PM
My understanding is that Bernie Sanders self identifies as a "democratic socialist" so I don't really need to identify specific policies do I?
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 03:57 PM
My understanding is that Bernie Sanders self identifies as a "democratic socialist" so I don't really need to identify specific policies do I?
absolutely, total ignorance of Bernie's issues is bliss for you rightwingnuts, and Trump fellators.
anyway, what policies would your "understanding" :lol of a generic "democratic socialist" promote, according to you?
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 04:01 PM
Trump's Sexist Attacks Aside, Megyn Kelly Is A Shill For Conservative Misinformation
Megyn Kelly is garnering another wave of misplaced praise, benefiting from Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump's latest attacks on her. But outside of the debate scene, Kelly's role on Fox News is little more than to shill for conservative misinformation.
Journalists and pundits across (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/27/why-this-liberal-loves-megyn-kelly.html) the political (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2016/01/27/how-megyn-kelly-learned-to-triumph-over-sexism-and-bullying/?tid=pm_local_pop_b) spectrum (http://time.com/4196506/republican-debate-donald-trump-megyn-kelly-fox-news/) are stepping up to defend the Fox News anchor after Trump labeled (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-refuses-debate-calls-foxs-kelly-lightweight-36536593) her a "lightweight journalist" leading up to Fox News' January 28 GOP primary debate, which he declined to participate in. Kelly's defenders have called out the sexism in Trump's attacks while lauding her as a "real journalist willing to stick her neck out to defend the vulnerable." But in doing so, they have bought into the distorted persona she has carefully crafted for herself -- that of the credible journalist, distinct from other Fox figures who are more obviously partisan.
That image has been bolstered by a series of glowing profiles (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/25/magazine/the-megyn-kelly-moment.html?_r=0) of Kelly that describe (http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/megyn-kelly-fox-news-star-anchor-republicans-hillary-clinton-1201524340/) her as a "take-no-prisoners newswoman" who "isn't afraid to throw hardballs at Republicans" and (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/01/04/vanity-fairs-glowing-megyn-kelly-profile-inadve/207715) have called her "the brightest star at Fox News" who "transcends politics with her skillful skewering of windbags of both parties." Fox helped Kelly reinforce that image (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/07/what-really-happened-at-last-nights-fox-news-de/204832) in Fox's first GOP primary debate, where Kelly posed a series of tough questions to the candidates -- most notably challenging Trump on his history of sexism -- and persuaded many of the 24 million viewers that she is a serious journalist. Fox's January 28 GOP debate will likely provide yet another opportunity for Kelly to amplify this deceptive image by deviating from her usual bigotry and right-wing misinformation (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/01/04/vanity-fairs-glowing-megyn-kelly-profile-inadve/207715) to ask tough questions while all eyes are on her.
The media is right to call out the sexism of Trump's attacks on Megyn Kelly, but to argue that she is a serious, legitimate journalist while doing so misses the mark.
Outside of Fox's debate scene, Kelly has repeatedly used her authority to prop up conservative misinformation from The Kelly File's anchor desk.
In the first two weeks of 2016, she spent over 1 hour and 22 minutes promoting (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/01/21/megyn-kelly-turned-her-show-into-a-junket-for-m/208090) Michael Bay's myth-filled Benghazi movie as "the gripping new film that may pose a threat to Hillary Clinton's hopes for the White House."
Kelly regularly hosts (http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/01/26/megyn-kelly-hosts-hate-group-leader-to-announce/208192) the leader of an anti-LGBT hate group, and
has a long history of offensive, discriminatory comments (http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/04/gop-debate-moderator-megyn-kelly-has-long-histo/204729) about minorities.
Kelly has also used her primetime Fox show to push falsehoods (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/12/01/megyn-kelly-defends-anti-planned-parenthood-sme/207154) about Planned Parenthood, most recentlyasking (http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/01/25/foxs-megyn-kelly-asks-whether-indictment-agains/208159) whether the grand jury indictment of two members of the group that released deceptively edited smear videos to attack the organization was a "political hit job."
Kelly once told Charlie Rose she's "not an opinion maker," yet she has repeatedly advocated (http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/10/08/megyn-kelly-tells-charlie-rose-shes-not-an-opin/206046) for conservative causes and spread misinformation -- and has gotten away with it because there are journalists willing to call her credible.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/01/28/trumps-sexist-attacks-aside-megyn-kelly-is-a-sh/208240
MG is just your garden-variety Fox news bimbo.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/fe/4f/54/fe4f5422976a2488500c2427f230bded.jpg
Hasn't Bernie mentioned some high income tax for the rich (77)? So boutons, you're okay with Danny Green ($10 million) paying a tax rate of 77%?
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/22/10814798/bernie-sanders-tax-rates
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 04:17 PM
Hasn't Bernie mentioned some high income tax for the rich (77)? So boutons, you're okay with Danny Green ($10 million) paying a tax rate of 77%?
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/22/10814798/bernie-sanders-tax-rates
77% is marginal rate ABOVE $10M so Danny wouldn't pay 77%
77% is marginal rate ABOVE $10M so Danny wouldn't pay 77%
You don't think he makes money on those commercials? He does them for free? He doesn't invest his money and earn interest/dividends/capital gains? What about the 73% on $2 million to $10 million?
spurraider21
01-28-2016, 11:54 PM
:lmao Cher goin IN
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Aztecfan03
01-29-2016, 12:07 AM
:lmao Cher goin IN
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Wow she actually tweeted something coherent. The world is ending.
boutons_deux
01-30-2016, 03:17 PM
http://static2.politico.com/dims4/default/ab40920/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F80%2F2a%2F e0af4266489ea17554ef4bb2e1cf%2F2-dana-summers-tribune-media.jpg
tlongII
01-30-2016, 04:20 PM
Trump was smart. Nothing to gain by being in that debate. Polls prove it. Dem's are gonna be skerred now.
clambake
01-30-2016, 04:24 PM
Trump was smart. Nothing to gain by being in that debate. Polls prove it. Dem's are gonna be skerred now.
are dem's skerred of dem's?
Trump was smart. Nothing to gain by being in that debate. Polls prove it. Dem's are gonna be skerred now.
Yep. It was a good move. Cruz was the target instead and didn't look too good.
Nbadan
01-30-2016, 04:33 PM
Hasn't Bernie mentioned some high income tax for the rich (77)? So boutons, you're okay with Danny Green ($10 million) paying a tax rate of 77%?
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/22/10814798/bernie-sanders-tax-rates
That's IF Bernie got everything he wanted....with a GOP controlled Congress not so much....but still...
boutons_deux
01-30-2016, 04:55 PM
That's IF Bernie got everything he wanted....with a GOP controlled Congress not so much....but still...
my big picture is that Hillary won't try much, won't do much to FIX America, because the Repugs will continue to obstruct EVERYTHING from the Dems.
And she will, like Bill did, sign some Repug nasty bills that fuck American harder and deeper.
Same with Bernie, totally obstructed, but his advantage is that he would veto a lot more shitty Repug bills than Hillary would.
Repugs will probably retain the House, and thereby the spending, and continue fuck up the Federal govt even more with bad-faith, destructive austerity.
Why in the world would someone like Danny Green work so hard to have his money given away to pay for someone who sits at home and gets free healthcare, free college tuition, free ....? Remember he has a very limited time to earn his money to be secure for the rest of his life. Bernie's plan is the destruction of anyone even TRYING to get ahead. Everyone will just sit back, do nothing and get FREE. And the really rich people will just move elsewhere. How long will that system work?
boutons_deux
01-30-2016, 10:18 PM
"Bernie's plan is the destruction of anyone even TRYING to get ahead."
bull fucking shit
America economic mobility now ranks below several European countries.
boutons, please explain to me, how, if Bernie's plan is implemented, anyone is motivated to work hard and get ahead? What do you think will happen to innovation if the profit motive is severely hampered with taxes? Do you think people will risk what money they have left over after taxes on new products, new businesses, new investments?
boutons_deux
01-30-2016, 11:20 PM
boutons, please explain to me, how, if Bernie's plan is implemented, anyone is motivated to work hard and get ahead? What do you think will happen to innovation if the profit motive is severely hampered with taxes? Do you think people will risk what money they have left over after taxes on new products, new businesses, new investments?
you're so fucking naive. countries with higher income tax rates don't have the bullshit problem you imagine.
Th'Pusher
01-30-2016, 11:26 PM
boutons, please explain to me, how, if Bernie's plan is implemented, anyone is motivated to work hard and get ahead? What do you think will happen to innovation if the profit motive is severely hampered with taxes? Do you think people will risk what money they have left over after taxes on new products, new businesses, new investments?
RMT doesn't only fear Isis, she also fears Bernie Sanders stealing the profit motive from the American people.
Nbadan
01-31-2016, 12:22 AM
boutons, please explain to me, how, if Bernie's plan is implemented, anyone is motivated to work hard and get ahead? What do you think will happen to innovation if the profit motive is severely hampered with taxes? Do you think people will risk what money they have left over after taxes on new products, new businesses, new investments?
Danny Green can deduct his declining skills as a business expense and still come out ahead....
CosmicCowboy
01-31-2016, 12:32 AM
The current tax system is a joke. I'm burning cash like a motherfucker in my company this month so I don't have to pay corporate taxes. Hell, I'm giving all my good customers custom $50 32oz YETI cups with my company logo/name on them. I can only spend so much salary and bonus. My goal as a C corporation is to make 0 profit. I work my ass off all year and then the government wants 30% of what the company has left over after they take 40% of the money I take as salary and bonus after all other expenses are paid.
CosmicCowboy
01-31-2016, 01:12 AM
BTW , don't try to paint me as some heartless predatory employer making bank on their backs. I work 60+ hour a week keeping it all together and sleep and dream work. My guys make more per hour working for me than any of my competitors pay. I give them shit loads of paid PTO and Vacation. I pay 100% of their and their families health care premiums. Need to take your mom to the doctor? Sure...turn in 8 and get the hell out of here. I gave out an average of $1000 per employee cash bonuses for Christmas on top of everything else.
Good companies can take care of their employees and still make money so fuck all you jealous ankle biting bitches. You know who you are. There are some really good dudes in here. I may disagree on politics with some of you but I respect and listen to your opinions. Teysha, RG, Clambake and many more make it worth coming in here. The rest of the arrogant whiney bitches like Fuzzy and Pusher just disgust me. Is what it is.
Danny Green can deduct his declining skills as a business expense and still come out ahead....
Be honest - everyone thought Danny's contract was a steal at the beginning of the season. Sure, he's in a slump, but I'm still hoping that the record holder of 3 pters in the NBA Finals will get his act together in time for the playoffs. Spurs can manage fine during the rs even with his slump, but his shot is needed for the playoffs.
And yes, the current tax system is a joke. Don't know what would adequately describe Bernie's tax plan.
CosmicCowboy
01-31-2016, 08:50 AM
Bernie sized tax rates are what drove the Beatles out of Great Britain. Wealth really is mobile. Since then they learned their lesson and lowered rates.
Th'Pusher
01-31-2016, 09:10 AM
BTW , don't try to paint me as some heartless predatory employer making bank on their backs. I work 60+ hour a week keeping it all together and sleep and dream work. My guys make more per hour working for me than any of my competitors pay. I give them shit loads of paid PTO and Vacation. I pay 100% of their and their families health care premiums. Need to take your mom to the doctor? Sure...turn in 8 and get the hell out of here. I gave out an average of $1000 per employee cash bonuses for Christmas on top of everything else.
Good companies can take care of their employees and still make money so fuck all you jealous ankle biting bitches. You know who you are. There are some really good dudes in here. I may disagree on politics with some of you but I respect and listen to your opinions. Teysha, RG, Clambake and many more make it worth coming in here. The rest of the arrogant whiney bitches like Fuzzy and Pusher just disgust me. Is what it is.
I disgust you? :lol Stop being so emotional. Looks like you had a few too many last night.
The reality is that nearly everything you say on this board is an opinion heavily influenced by an irrational hate for the Federal Government and Obama, yet you state it as a matter of fact. You cite nothing to back up your opinion and dismiss anyone who disagrees out of hand. That's arrogant.
boutons_deux
01-31-2016, 09:17 AM
The current tax system is a joke. I'm burning cash like a motherfucker in my company this month so I don't have to pay corporate taxes. Hell, I'm giving all my good customers custom $50 32oz YETI cups with my company logo/name on them. I can only spend so much salary and bonus. My goal as a C corporation is to make 0 profit. I work my ass off all year and then the government wants 30% of what the company has left over after they take 40% of the money I take as salary and bonus after all other expenses are paid.
that's exactly why corporate taxes are great. For BigCorp, "high" taxes used to be avoided by investment in the real economy, with the tax write off for investom. Low taxes kills investment. Low taxes means profits go to mgmt and investors, "profit taking", increasing inequality and weakening the country that has stopped investing in the future.
oh, and VWRC/1%/Repug "trickle down" is a fucking LIE.
In fact, there's NOTHING from VWRC/1%/Repug that isn't a LIE.
TeyshaBlue
01-31-2016, 10:20 AM
BTW , don't try to paint me as some heartless predatory employer making bank on their backs. I work 60+ hour a week keeping it all together and sleep and dream work. My guys make more per hour working for me than any of my competitors pay. I give them shit loads of paid PTO and Vacation. I pay 100% of their and their families health care premiums. Need to take your mom to the doctor? Sure...turn in 8 and get the hell out of here. I gave out an average of $1000 per employee cash bonuses for Christmas on top of everything else.
Good companies can take care of their employees and still make money so fuck all you jealous ankle biting bitches. You know who you are. There are some really good dudes in here. I may disagree on politics with some of you but I respect and listen to your opinions. Teysha, RG, Clambake and many more make it worth coming in here. The rest of the arrogant whiney bitches like Fuzzy and Pusher just disgust me. Is what it is.
You don't want to know what I'm paying my crew. Hell, my lead makes more salary than I do. :lol. I got to take care of her...she'll have this accidental enterprise of mine to run in a year or so. I'm ready to slow down a bit. Maybe Ill have time to post again. :p:
boutons_deux
01-31-2016, 10:33 AM
CC jerking off in public, orgasmically self-congratulating.
CosmicCowboy
01-31-2016, 11:07 AM
Boo rolling his tongue and begging for it like a baby bird.
TeyshaBlue
01-31-2016, 11:08 AM
:cry
boutons_deux
01-31-2016, 11:22 AM
Donald Trump’s plan for replacing Obamacare: ‘We’ll work something out’ so people aren’t ‘dying’
“Ted Cruz is a total liar,” Trump replied dismissively. “I am so against Obamacare. I’ve been saying it for two years in my speeches. I’m going to repeal and replace Obamacare. I don’t know even where he gets this. But he’s a liar.”
“That’s true,” Trump insisted. “I want people taken care of, I have a heart. If people have no money, we have to help people, but that doesn’t mean single payer. It means we have to help people.”
“How do you do it?” the ABC host asked.
“We’re going to work with our hospitals, we’re going to work with our doctors,” Trump said. “We’ve got to do something. You can’t have a small percentage of our economy — because their down and out — have absolutely no protection so they end up dying.”
“We’ll work something out,” he added. “That doesn’t mean single payer.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/donald-trumps-plan-for-replacing-obamacare-well-work-something-out-so-people-arent-dying/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Donny T is totally full of shit. That's why DT does so well conning low-wage, low-info, low-education losers.
Like a grifting pastor with a Bible, DT makes up shit as he goes along, with absolutely no idea, and no care, about what he would do, and even less, COULD do, as Pres.
Aztecfan03
01-31-2016, 11:38 AM
Donald Trump’s plan for replacing Obamacare: ‘We’ll work something out’ so people aren’t ‘dying’
“Ted Cruz is a total liar,” Trump replied dismissively. “I am so against Obamacare. I’ve been saying it for two years in my speeches. I’m going to repeal and replace Obamacare. I don’t know even where he gets this. But he’s a liar.”
“That’s true,” Trump insisted. “I want people taken care of, I have a heart. If people have no money, we have to help people, but that doesn’t mean single payer. It means we have to help people.”
“How do you do it?” the ABC host asked.
“We’re going to work with our hospitals, we’re going to work with our doctors,” Trump said. “We’ve got to do something. You can’t have a small percentage of our economy — because their down and out — have absolutely no protection so they end up dying.”
“We’ll work something out,” he added. “That doesn’t mean single payer.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/donald-trumps-plan-for-replacing-obamacare-well-work-something-out-so-people-arent-dying/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Donny T is totally full of shit. That's why DT does so well conning low-wage, low-info, low-education losers.
Like a grifting pastor with a Bible, DT makes up shit as he goes along, with absolutely no idea, and no care, about what he would do as Pres.
For once, i agree with you.
The only thing Donald has ever endorsed issingle payer, but that doesn't work for the people he is trying to get to vote for him so he is bullshitting it.
hitmanyr2k
01-31-2016, 11:58 AM
Be honest - everyone thought Danny's contract was a steal at the beginning of the season. Sure, he's in a slump, but I'm still hoping that the record holder of 3 pters in the NBA Finals will get his act together in time for the playoffs. Spurs can manage fine during the rs even with his slump, but his shot is needed for the playoffs.
And yes, the current tax system is a joke. Don't know what would adequately describe Bernie's tax plan.
No, some of us saw Danny Green for what he really is :lol
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252665&p=8197593&viewfull=1#post8197593
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252665&p=8197602&viewfull=1#post8197602
I'll go ahead and call it right here so that people don't say I retroactively predicted this. Hillary wins the dem nomination and Trump wins the repub nomination then he wins the general election. I will be voting republican for the first time in my life and hopefully the 2nd to last time.
I'll go ahead and call it right here so that people don't say I retroactively predicted this. Hillary wins the dem nomination and Trump wins the repub nomination then he wins the general election. I will be voting republican for the first time in my life and hopefully the 2nd to last time.
LOL - you think the country could take 8 years of Trump? :lol
boutons_deux
02-01-2016, 09:16 AM
Trump's Negative Image
http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/ny3t2cbxiuyd0gizj40hfg.png
Putting his favorable and unfavorable ratings together yields a net favorable of -27 for Trump,
far above the -10 for Clinton and for Bush, the next lowest among the major candidates.
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/188936/trump-negative-image.aspx
It seems that favorable/unfavorable ratings are not affecting who people plan to vote for. For all HC's problems, she's still the frontrunner. And despite some of the crazy things Trump says, I and quite a lot of people still plan to vote for him. I thought Gallup gave up on election polling.
LOL - you think the country could take 8 years of Trump? :lol
I'm glad you caught that. :lol
The American people are going to be sick of winning, that's my only concern.
Tonight is going to be so fun. I can't wait for the victory speech.
boutons_deux
02-01-2016, 05:04 PM
Trump Tells Crowd To ‘Knock The Crap Out Of’ Protesters
Donald Trump, at a rally today in Iowa, encouraged the crowd to get violent.
“Get a little notice, in case you see — the security guys, we have wonderful security guys. They said, ‘Mr. Trump, there may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience.’ So if you see somebody getting ready to throw tomatoes, knock the crap out of them, would you?
“Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise. There won’t be so much, ’cause the courts agree with us, too — what’s going on in this country.”
http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-tells-crowd-to-knock-the-crap-out-of-protestors/
There ya go, Repugs, Trump fellators, y'all got really classy THUG there. The Strong Man and his goons. America The Beautiful.
FuzzyLumpkins
02-01-2016, 05:18 PM
Why in the world would someone like Danny Green work so hard to have his money given away to pay for someone who sits at home and gets free healthcare, free college tuition, free ....? Remember he has a very limited time to earn his money to be secure for the rest of his life. Bernie's plan is the destruction of anyone even TRYING to get ahead. Everyone will just sit back, do nothing and get FREE. And the really rich people will just move elsewhere. How long will that system work?
Ideology is great except when it has been proven untrue empirically over and again. According to you the new deal and great society would have meant the downfall of the US while the Contract with America would have us at our zenith.
In fact the opposite was the case. Those 90's deregulation and dismantling of the social services network didn't improve circumstances one whit.
Trump Tells Crowd To ‘Knock The Crap Out Of’ Protesters
Donald Trump, at a rally today in Iowa, encouraged the crowd to get violent.
“Get a little notice, in case you see — the security guys, we have wonderful security guys. They said, ‘Mr. Trump, there may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience.’ So if you see somebody getting ready to throw tomatoes, knock the crap out of them, would you?
“Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise. There won’t be so much, ’cause the courts agree with us, too — what’s going on in this country.”
http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-tells-crowd-to-knock-the-crap-out-of-protestors/
There ya go, Repugs, Trump fellators, y'all got really classy THUG there. The Strong Man and his goons. America The Beautiful.
Throwing tomatoes is NOT classy, and Trump was just kidding.
boutons_deux
02-01-2016, 06:23 PM
Throwing tomatoes is NOT classy, and Trump was just kidding.
:lol throwing (rotten) tomatoes is classic protest gesture.
:lol throwing (rotten) tomatoes is classic protest gesture.
I know, and it's not classy. Did MLK JR. ever throw tomatoes? Did Gandhi?
boutons_deux
02-01-2016, 06:49 PM
I know, and it's not classy. Did MLK JR. ever throw tomatoes? Did Gandhi?
:lol Trump doesn't invite classy handling. He's a trashy shitbag.
:lol Trump doesn't invite classy handling. He's a trashy shitbag.
GFY
boutons_deux
02-01-2016, 07:02 PM
GFY
and so are his supporters.
and so are his supporters.
And apparently at least one of his Spurstalk critics.
:lmao
Trump is getting the shit kicked out of him.
hater
02-01-2016, 10:21 PM
Trump coasting tbqh. Lol Iowa. Means jackshit
He's still winning IMO
Someone post Cruz vid of him molesting his daughter :lol
Ted with the 12 inch dildo.
Trump never loses. #winning
:lmao
hater
02-01-2016, 10:30 PM
Finally Trump getting challenged tbh
On.the other hand Shillary can't even get into 1st gear vs a mummy :lmao
baseline bum
02-01-2016, 10:32 PM
Holy fuck if this election ends up Cruz vs Clinton :pctoss
Finally Trump getting challenged tbh
On.the other hand Shillary can't even get into 1st gear vs a mummy :lmao
She's not that popular in Iowa, The fact she's leading at all there is already a win.
baseline bum
02-01-2016, 10:33 PM
Trump just barely beating Rubio for second
hitmanyr2k
02-01-2016, 10:36 PM
I hate Rubio more than any other candidate but I want to see him overtake Trump for second just to see the meltdown from the Trump camp :lol
hater
02-01-2016, 10:36 PM
She's not that popular in Iowa, The fact she's leading at all there is already a win.
Truth is she's not that popular anywhere :lol
ChumpDumper
02-01-2016, 10:37 PM
Trump loses by two Corinthians .
Will Trump throw a tantrum and not make a speech?
Trump made a big mistake not going to the debate. All the late minute decisions went to Rubio who wildly exceeded expectations. I expected Cruz to win (he put all his money on Iowa) but did not expect Rubio's surge. Still, it's proportional votes until March 15 with the big and moderate states after that.
ChumpDumper
02-01-2016, 10:49 PM
So there is hope for a tolerable Republican candidate.
So there is hope for a tolerable Republican candidate.
RINO and establishment candidate - same old, same old.
hitmanyr2k
02-01-2016, 10:51 PM
Trump looks like a oompa loompa. What's with that fake orange tan?
hater
02-01-2016, 10:51 PM
And hope for an honest Democratic one :tu
ChumpDumper
02-01-2016, 10:51 PM
RINO and establishment candidate - same old, same old.lol Republicans keep saying that. I don't think they know what it means.
Trump sounds like he's been crying ever since he lost. :lol
hitmanyr2k
02-01-2016, 10:53 PM
Trump sounds like he's been crying ever since he lost. :lol
I thought it was just me but it sound like his voice was wavering as if he were going to cry. I had to do a double take :lol
baseline bum
02-01-2016, 11:01 PM
So there is hope for a tolerable Republican candidate.
Which one is that? :lol
baseline bum
02-01-2016, 11:01 PM
lol Republicans keep saying that. I don't think they know what it means.
Isn't that a Rush Limbaugh term for anyone to the left of Santorum?
ElNono
02-01-2016, 11:04 PM
awaiting the "Iowa is full of stupid people" tweet :lol
baseline bum
02-01-2016, 11:04 PM
Damn, Bush actually got 3%. :lol
And then Cain with 9%.
CosmicCowboy
02-01-2016, 11:06 PM
awaiting the "Iowa is full of stupid people" tweet :lol
:lol
Iowa means nothing. They consistently pick losers.
spurraider21
02-01-2016, 11:23 PM
Holy fuck if this election ends up Cruz vs Clinton :pctoss
u complain about cuck sanders, u complain about hillary, u complain about repugs
what's a preferable ballot to you?
baseline bum
02-01-2016, 11:46 PM
u complain about cuck sanders, u complain about hillary, u complain about repugs
what's a preferable ballot to you?
I'd vote the corpse of Eisenhower over any of them
MultiTroll
02-02-2016, 12:23 AM
Iowa means nothing. They consistently pick losers.
Saw this on HuffBlows:
Cliffs: fair chance Iowa winner gets Party nod but very few go on to win Prez.
Since 1972 only three non-incumbent candidates who won Iowa have gone on to win the presidency.
Seven democrats in 10 caucuses who won in Iowa have ended up winning their party's nomination, according to the Des Moines Register (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/99999999/NEWS09/71114028/Caucus-history-Past-years-results). (Two were incumbents who ran unopposed.)
Six Republican winners in Iowa, out of nine contests there, have gone on to win the GOP nomination. (Three were incumbents who ran unopposed.)
Notables who did not win Iowa:
Ronnie Raygun
Bush Oil n War I
Billy Clinton
TheCultOfPersonality
02-02-2016, 12:44 AM
Truth is she's not that popular anywhere :lol
True.
Hillary always gets overrated and overhyped for no reason other than her being Bill's cuck. She's the worst type of candidate. A candidate that has zero substance, but doesn't have any superficial qualities (likeability, charisma, not having an annoying voice and annoying laugh) to make up for it.
TheCultOfPersonality
02-02-2016, 12:50 AM
I'd vote the corpse of Eisenhower over any of them
You and me both. :tu
HI-FI
02-02-2016, 01:12 AM
shocked that Cruz pulled it off. To Trump's credit he was far more gracious than I expected.
I'd vote the corpse of Eisenhower over any of them
Very underrated president imo, especially his final MIC speech.
3 man race. Trump and Cruz are gonna split the anti-establishment votes and Rubio will coalesce the establishment/moderate votes of Bush and soon to be dropouts Christie and Kaisch. Carson's votes will probably go to Cruz. Trump needs to hang on until March 15 when it'll be winner take all. Although surprisingly, Trump in NOT polling ahead in New York and California (see http://www.270towin.com/2016-republican-nomination-polls/)
angrydude
02-02-2016, 02:04 AM
3 man race. Trump and Cruz are gonna split the anti-establishment votes and Rubio will coalesce the establishment/moderate votes of Bush and soon to be dropouts Christie and Kaisch. Carson's votes will probably go to Cruz. Trump needs to hang on until March 15 when it'll be winner take all. Although surprisingly, Trump in NOT polling ahead in New York and California (see http://www.270towin.com/2016-republican-nomination-polls/)
The thing for Rubio is, that establishment bump ain't much.
Cruz is dead. He only won in Iowa because he went full evangelical. Like Huckabee, like Santorum. That doesn't fly in other places......especially primary states....... where you don't have to be a registered republican to vote......and where people don't get their marching orders from their pastors.
Nbadan
02-02-2016, 02:21 AM
The thing for Rubio is, that establishment bump ain't much.
Cruz is dead. He only won in Iowa because he went full evangelical. Like Huckabee, like Santorum. That doesn't fly in other places......especially primary states....... where you don't have to be a registered republican to vote......and where people don't get their marching orders from their pastors.
I agree....it's a two man race in the GOP....Trump and Rubio......I'm starting to think Rubio is the 'establishment' man....
FuzzyLumpkins
02-02-2016, 03:04 AM
I agree....it's a two man race in the GOP....Trump and Rubio......I'm starting to think Rubio is the 'establishment' man....
Seeing how Trump has been complaining about his billionaire dark money donors for 4+ months I would tend to agree with you. A lot of the oil money is going with Cruz right now though.
hater
02-02-2016, 08:10 AM
Lol Trump basically took a shit on Iowa and he still got 2nd place :lol
hater
02-02-2016, 08:12 AM
Shilary basically got gangbanged by the entire state f Iowa and can't even beat a mummy :lol
RandomGuy
02-02-2016, 08:18 AM
I agree....it's a two man race in the GOP....Trump and Rubio......I'm starting to think Rubio is the 'establishment' man....
Eyup. I would venture a guess, but it is hard to figure. My gut says that people are looking for ANYBODY but Trump, until I see the "Trump" signs in neighbor's yards. Texas is a big chunk of delegates.
Pelicans78
02-02-2016, 08:26 AM
Lol Trump basically took a shit on Iowa and he still got 2nd place :lol
Nah he's a loser who thought he was going to win Iowa by just talking a big game yet blew it because he wasn't organized and detailed enough. Same reason why his businesses have filed for bankruptcy a few times. Overrated candidate got exposed for being a big talker who got support from the stupid class of his party. Heck his supporters were too lazy to vote for him or they turned on him by voting for the next GW.
Pelicans78
02-02-2016, 08:27 AM
Trump is not going to make this a two man race. He has to get through Cruz and that ain't happening cause he's not smart enough to outwit Teddy.
boutons_deux
02-02-2016, 09:31 AM
Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
“No one remembers who came in second.” - Walter Hagen
2:55 PM - 30 Dec 2013 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/417760911177162752)
Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
“No one remembers who came in second.” - Walter Hagen
2:55 PM - 30 Dec 2013 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/417760911177162752)
The war is not over.
ChumpDumper
02-02-2016, 01:28 PM
I'd vote the corpse of Eisenhower over any of themHe was Neocon before anyone realized Neocon was a thing.
Eisenhower's MIC warning doesn't allow me to identify him as a full fledged neocon.
Eyup. I would venture a guess, but it is hard to figure. My gut says that people are looking for ANYBODY but Trump, until I see the "Trump" signs in neighbor's yards. Texas is a big chunk of delegates.
Unless one person gets over 50% of votes, delegates are allocated proportionally. Trump just has to hope Cruz doesn't get 50%.
boutons_deux
02-02-2016, 03:26 PM
Grifter NEWS
Sarah Palin's PAC burning through cash
Alaskan spending money on self, not conservative candidates
the former Alaska governor's own political action committee, once prodigious, is flaming out: Palin's appetite for luxury travel and pricey consultants has depleted its cash reserves to historically low levels, a Center for Public Integrity (http://www.publicintegrity.org/) review of new federal records indicate.
Sure, lots of political committees would love to have the $380,000 that remained in Sarah PAC’s coffers as of Dec. 31.
But not since mid-2009, just after Palin formed SarahPAC following her unsuccessful vice presidential bid, has the group’s cash stash dipped so low. It sat on $1 million as recently as mid-2014.
How’d this happen?
SarahPAC is simply burning through more money than it’s bringing in.
< there's a graph! >
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/01/29/19194/sarah-palins-pac-burning-through-cash?utm_source=email&utm_campaign=watchdog&utm_medium=publici-email&goal=0_ffd1d0160d-4a3411d141-100106293&mc_cid=4a3411d141&mc_eid=3b8f64cce8
ChumpDumper
02-02-2016, 09:48 PM
Eisenhower's MIC warning doesn't allow me to identify him as a full fledged neocon.His administration's actions in El Salvador, Guatemala, Cuba and Iran allow me to. Given the times, I can't really see others doing much different, but it's when the US really got used to fucking with stuff everywhere.
spurraider21
02-02-2016, 10:15 PM
:lmao Clipper Nation
:lmao false hope
https://i.gyazo.com/a06a54e6ce9e5461fc7d035344215745.png
Thebesteva
02-02-2016, 11:37 PM
:lmao Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)
:lmao false hope
https://i.gyazo.com/a06a54e6ce9e5461fc7d035344215745.png
Why does that broke ass nigga wanna vote Republican anyway?
His administration's actions in El Salvador, Guatemala, Cuba and Iran allow me to. Given the times, I can't really see others doing much different, but it's when the US really got used to fucking with stuff everywhere.
The 91% top marginal tax rate under Ike also sets him apart from today's neocons.
Nbadan
02-03-2016, 12:46 AM
Well, they found the coin used for the 6 coin flips Hillary won...
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS3gCAs9UAVE-5ubFAnQ0SD6U752fCAkx33W3bmLGDtUGWos5Jy
spurraider21
02-03-2016, 01:43 AM
lol bernie sheep believe everything they hear
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/hillary-clinton-coin-flip-iowa-bernie-sanders/index.html
https://i.gyazo.com/8743e8fcd6d15dde75a307e745ae765b.png
https://i.gyazo.com/36ba1df6f7e899d569e4fe5ac207b396.png
https://i.gyazo.com/c1d626d592ecab88e5180b6c3f984b8c.png
:cry but but, daily kos said hillary cheated! :cry
boutons_deux
02-03-2016, 06:06 AM
IA caucus crap is over-complicated bullshit, an anachronism. It also excludes people who can't physically go to a caucus at 7 PM from participating. It should be an voting election like other states.
boutons_deux
02-03-2016, 09:51 AM
How Trump Did It
What they heard as they ate deli sandwiches around Donald Trump’s hulking wooden conference table sounded like the businessman’s typical bravado. These 25 New York political operatives had come to ask him to run for governor. But Trump had another plan—a very specific plan—to run for president.
“You guys are going to be very helpful when I do the big thing,” he said, according to people who were in the room that day.
To the GOP county chairs and assemblymen there in Trump Tower’s glass-enclosed conference room overlooking Fifth Avenue and Central Park, Trump’s aspirations seemed far-fetched and the plan itself sounded downright implausible.
“He said, ‘I’m going to walk away with it and win it outright,’” a long-time New York political consultant recalled. “Trump told us, ‘I’m going to get in and all the polls are going to go crazy. I’m going to suck all the oxygen out of the room. I know how to work the media in a way that they will never take the lights off of me.’”
This gathering of New York’s political class was not held on the eve of Trump’s announcement. It was much earlier than that – 25 months ago, in the weeks before Christmas of 2013, a period well before most Americans and even many politicians were thinking about the 2016 presidential contest. Well before Trump would come to utterly dominate the GOP race from the very moment he declared himself a candidate.
In this meeting, Trump showed his cards, laying out the route he would take to tonight’s Iowa caucuses.
Notoriously frugal, Trump insisted he wouldn’t need to spend much money on paid advertising, drawing disbelief from the professionals gathered around his table.
“You can’t run for president on earned media,” one attendee recalled telling Trump.
The billionaire looked up, and paused for a long moment. “I think you’re wrong,” Trump said.
“Are you going to do all those little events at the Pizza Ranches?” another person asked, referring to the Iowa fast-food franchises that are a staple of presidential campaign stops.
“Maybe a little,” Trump replied. “But it’s really about the power of the mass audience.”
I’m going to get in and all the polls are going to go crazy. I’m going to suck all the oxygen out of the room. I know how to work the media in a way that they will never take the lights off of me.”
What sounded then like fantasy now looks like prophecy. Trump’s long-planned but largely improvisational campaign, propelled by a high-wattage personality, has him in position to win the Iowa caucuses, and perhaps steamroll his rivals on his way to the GOP nomination.
It couldn’t have worked for anyone else. Everything that explains the first-time candidate’s mind-blowing success—his uncanny ability to read and react to people and to bait his foes into positions of weakness, his eagerness to accept risk, and, above all, his ability to trust his gut to navigate the race while eschewing professional guidance—is the result of an entire career in the public spotlight and the ruthless worlds of New York real estate, media and politics.
“When he looks down his nose at the political consulting class, no wonder,” said veteran Republican pollster and Trump acquaintance Tony Fabrizio. “And I’m one of them!”
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/how-donald-trump-did-it-213581
boutons_deux
02-03-2016, 10:29 AM
http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/large/public/story_images/labor-trump700.png
boutons_deux
02-03-2016, 11:49 AM
Trump calls for 'new election' after accusing Cruz of fraud in Iowa
"Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified," Trump tweeted on Wednesday.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/268014-trump-accuses-cruz-of-illegal-iowa-win-in-deleted-tweet
stinky shitbag Krazy Kruz sent out msg that Krazy Karson was quitting, trying to pickup Carson's Bible humpers. With undoubted sincerity, Krazy Kruz apologized. :lol
boutons_deux
02-03-2016, 12:00 PM
the morning-after with Coal Bear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyo7sqYBR2M
ElNono
02-03-2016, 01:37 PM
shocked that Cruz pulled it off. To Trump's credit he was far more gracious than I expected.
694879900256354304
694890328273346560
:lol
RandomGuy
02-03-2016, 01:43 PM
IA caucus crap is over-complicated bullshit, an anachronism. It also excludes people who can't physically go to a caucus at 7 PM from participating. It should be an voting election like other states.
I disagree. The ability to actually talk things over provides for a much better democratic process.
boutons_deux
02-03-2016, 02:25 PM
I disagree. The ability to actually talk things over provides for a much better democratic process.
whatever, IA is meaningless for the general election. It's extremist Congress people are a bigger problem.
boutons_deux
02-03-2016, 03:25 PM
Trump says he'll probably sue over Cruz 'voter fraud' in Iowa (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/3/1479297/-Trump-says-he-ll-probably-sue-over-Cruz-voter-fraud-in-Iowa)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/03/1479297/-Trump-says-he-ll-probably-sue-over-Cruz-voter-fraud-in-Iowa?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29
boutons_deux
02-03-2016, 03:50 PM
http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/large/public/story_images/toxicity.jpg
spurraider21
02-03-2016, 04:14 PM
lol alternet
ChumpDumper
02-03-2016, 04:16 PM
694879900256354304
694890328273346560
:lollol meltdown
Man, Cruz is shitting all over him right now.
spurraider21
02-03-2016, 04:21 PM
Trump v Cruz would be a more retarded version of Bush v Gore :lol
boutons_deux
02-03-2016, 04:32 PM
iow, Trump is doing what he has done for months, sucking all the oxygen up, dominating/trolling the media.
You Trump fellators must be ecstatic.
If you're going run as evangelical Christians (both Cruz and Rubio), you better not be doing dirty things like what they did to Carson. I feel so bad for him.
If you're going run as evangelical Christians (both Cruz and Rubio), you better not be doing dirty things like what they did to Carson. I feel so bad for him.
Well cruz did it anyway.
Aztecfan03
02-04-2016, 03:16 AM
Well cruz did it anyway.
according to a rubio supporter, he did too.
:lmao wanting a re-do.
This guy. :lmao
boutons_deux
02-04-2016, 07:32 AM
If you're going run as evangelical Christians (both Cruz and Rubio), you better not be doing dirty things like what they did to Carson. I feel so bad for him.
those Pharisees talk the talk, but don't walk the walk. They're both venal shitbags, like grifter Fuckabee
Pelicans78
02-04-2016, 07:52 AM
If you're going run as evangelical Christians (both Cruz and Rubio), you better not be doing dirty things like what they did to Carson. I feel so bad for him.
Cruz only said what was inevitable. Besides Carson is a sorry candidate who has no business running for president. He's terrible in debates, about as interesting to listen to as watching grass grow, and he set himself up for what Cruz did by having to get more suits. What kind of a pathetic excuse is that? Time for him to go. Cruz just did what needed to be done.
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