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Quetzal-X
12-08-2015, 06:03 PM
My family and I simply love HP - lots of playacting and hours of listening to the audio in the car. As far as JK Rowling's tweet - I don't think that Trump exercising his freedom of speech is quite as bad as Voldemort killing people.


But Kristians passing off that honkey devil as jesus christ is evil. You fucking disgusting fucking devils and your shitty church need to go blowjob the real jesus of the bible, and thats a black man bitch. Gfy and your fake honkified jesus you bitch you.

mingus
12-08-2015, 06:06 PM
I'm curious as to how sharply divided along party lines this is. I read a poll stating that 60% of democrats are in favor of letting refugees, compared to 30% republicans. But that was the only poll I've read. I don't think it's a cut and dry liberal conservative issue. A lot of people on both sides seem to disfavor it. Can one party own one side of the issue? I don't think so.

boutons_deux
12-08-2015, 06:36 PM
That poll is an anomaly. Trump is doing amazing and he is doing amazing nationwide as well. Cruz is just focusing all his efforts in Iowa which is one of the few states he has a chance of winning in the primary.

Trump actually loves the Muslim people. He has many friends that are Muslim. He has said so repeatedly.

Trump is only doing well among Repug voters, and only 1/3 of them support him as candidate, BUT NOT as President. He's protest candidate for the extreme Repug fringe.

If Krazy Kruz beats Trump in Santorum-sucking Iowa, Trump will be finished.

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Dear Media, Stop Freaking Out About Donald Trump’s Polls

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dear-media-stop-freaking-out-about-donald-trumps-polls/

Trump is exposing that America has Ms, 10Ms? of "good Germans" in the Repug base.

boutons_deux
12-08-2015, 06:50 PM
Fascism in Donald Trump's United States

When Trump proposed the ban at a rally at the USS Yorktown in South Carolina, his plan drew loud cheers from the crowd.

What almost none of the presidential candidates or mainstream political pundits have admitted, however, is not only that Trump's comments form a discourse of hate, bigotry and exclusion, but also that such expressions of racism and fascism are resonating deeply in a landscape of US culture and politics crafted by 40 years of conservative counterrevolution.

Trump is consistently a hatemonger and spreads his message without apology in almost every public encounter in which he finds himself. In this loathsome instance, Trump simply expanded his hate-filled discourse in a new direction, after having already established the deeply ingrained racism and sexism at the heart of his candidacy.

Trump's mockery of Kovaleski and his blatantly discriminatory policy proposals against Muslims are of a piece with his portrayal of Mexican immigrants as violent rapists and drug dealers, and with his calls for the United States to put Syrian refugees in detention centers and create a database to control them. These comments sound eerily close to SS leader Heinrich Himmler's call for camps that held prisoners under orders of what the Nazis euphemistically called "protective custody."

Moreover, Trump's hateful attitude toward people with disabilities points to an earlier element of Hitler's program of genocide in which people with physical and mental disabilities were viewed as disposable because they allegedly undermined the Nazi notion of the "master race." The demonization, objectification and pathologizing of people with disabilities was the first step in developing the foundation for the Nazis' euthanasia program (http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007683) aimed at those declared unworthy of life.

What is truly alarming is how many corporate media figures and intellectuals are defending Trump, not realizing that his candidacy is rooted in the brutal seeds of totalitarianism being cultivated in US society. Trump represents more than the anti-democratic practices and antics of Joseph McCarthy (http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/33687-focus-donald-trump-and-the-legacy-of-joe-mccarthy); he illustrates how totalitarianism can take different forms in specific historical moments.

a dangerous "political space ... in both the wider culture and in recent history." This is evident not only in his race-baiting, his crude comments about women and his call to round up and deport 11 million immigrants, but also in his increasing support for violence (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/protester-tackled-by-crowd-at-trump-rally.html)against protesters at his rallies.

The degree to which Trump expresses his support of violence, racism and the violation of civil liberties, visibly and without apology, is unprecedented in recent national political races.

"We're going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule ... And so we're going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago." Trump's call to do "the unthinkable" is a fundamental principle of any notion of totalitarianism, regardless of the form it takes.

Trump and his ilk merge a hypernationalism, racism, economic fundamentalism and religious bigotry with a flagrant sense of lawlessness. His hate-filled speech is matched by an unsettling embrace of violence against immigrants and other oppositional voices issued by his supporters at many of his rallies. This type of lawlessness does more than encourage hate and violent mob mentalities; it also legitimates the kind of inflammatory rhetoric that gives credibility to acts of violence against others.

This is not simply the behavior of moral and political cowards; it is the toxic affirmation of the machineries of death we associate with fascism. Such acts point to a large climate of lawlessness in US society that makes it all the easier to ignore human rights, justice and democracy itself. There are historical precedents for this type of violence and for the hate-filled racist speech of the politicians who create the climate that legitimates it. We heard this same hatred in the words of Hitler, Mussolini, Pinochet and other demagogic orators who have ranted against Jews, communists and others alleged "infidels."

Trump's recent call to bring back waterboarding and to support a torture regime far exceeds what might be called an act of stupidity or ignorance. Torture in this instance becomes a means of exacting revenge on those whom the right considers to be "other," un-American and inferior - principally Muslims, immigrants and activists taking part in the movement for Black lives. We have heard this discourse before during the totalitarian regimes of the 1930s and later during the dictatorships in Latin America in the 1970s. Heather Digby Parton is right when she writes that Donald Trump "may be the first openly fascistic frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination but the ground was prepared and the seeds of his success sowed over the course of many years. We've had fascism flowing through the American political bloodstream for quite some time."

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33951-fascism-in-donald-trump-s-united-states

rmt
12-08-2015, 07:50 PM
I'm curious as to how sharply divided along party lines this is. I read a poll stating that 60% of democrats are in favor of letting refugees, compared to 30% republicans. But that was the only poll I've read. I don't think it's a cut and dry liberal conservative issue. A lot of people on both sides seem to disfavor it. Can one party own one side of the issue? I don't think so.

Did you see the poll on the previous page? It says 48% Democrat, 62% Independent, 83% Republicans do not want to accept and this was taken before the shooting last week.

spurraider21
12-08-2015, 10:54 PM
liberals call so many conservatives fascist that it really lost its effect

Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-08-2015, 10:57 PM
I'm curious as to how sharply divided along party lines this is. I read a poll stating that 60% of democrats are in favor of letting refugees, compared to 30% republicans. But that was the only poll I've read. I don't think it's a cut and dry liberal conservative issue. A lot of people on both sides seem to disfavor it. Can one party own one side of the issue? I don't think so.

MSNBC

http://i.imgur.com/hpylqHK.jpg

Foxnews poll @ 3:00 99% in favor of banning Muslims

8YzwsGxxfRQ

boutons_deux
12-08-2015, 11:03 PM
liberals call so many conservatives fascist that it really lost its effect

Repugs are the party of privileges for white people, the oppressors of non-white people, authoritarian, jingoists, chauvanists, American exceptionalism, fascist-style marriage of corporate power with govt power,

"Some scholars consider fascism right-wing because of its social conservatism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservatism) and authoritarian means of opposing egalitarianism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Position_in_the_political_spectrum

.... both which are fundamental to Repugs.

Trump is really no different from the other candidates, from tea baggers. He is a shitty dog whistler, the others are better, been doing it since Goldwater.

rmt
12-08-2015, 11:42 PM
MSNBC

http://i.imgur.com/hpylqHK.jpg

Foxnews poll @ 3:00 99% in favor of banning Muslims

8YzwsGxxfRQ

LOL at the MSNBC poll - it's the non-whites who don't want the Muslims here. What say you, boutons?

Th'Pusher
12-08-2015, 11:46 PM
LOL at the MSNBC poll - it's the non-whites who don't want the Muslims here. What say you, boutons?

There's a strong legacy of xenophobia in the minority community.

ChumpDumper
12-09-2015, 01:26 AM
lol internet polls.

angrydude
12-09-2015, 01:47 AM
Since when did being anti-muslim lose you popularity contests in America? Only the media and boutons thinks it hurts you.

Blizzardwizard
12-09-2015, 02:50 AM
Stick a cane in the man's hand and a stubbly moustache and I think you could pass this guy as the modern day Francisco Franco. How long before he bans all trade with other countries and runs an autarkic economy, the bad wanker.

SnakeBoy
12-09-2015, 04:17 AM
I'm starting to believe Trump will be our next potus...as sad as that is to say.

rmt
12-09-2015, 07:54 AM
I'm starting to believe Trump will be our next potus...as sad as that is to say.

The MSNBC poll is an internet one. Some crazy Trump supporter could be mass voting - although they probably would have to have been watching MSNBC to know about the poll - so maybe unlikely.

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 08:18 AM
I'm starting to believe Trump will be our next potus...as sad as that is to say.

absolutely not, 30% of Repug voters isn't enough win the WH. Sounds like the Repugs are going after him seriously, asking him to withdraw, etc, etc. If he goes 3rd party, then Dems win the WH.

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 09:24 AM
Donald Trump is a symptom — not the disease

Candice Miller, a US Congresswoman, introduced a bill, the Visa Waiver Program Improvement Act of 2015.

If passed, the bill will suddenly cast US citizens of Arab, Iranian, and Muslims descent as second-class citizens in their own country - a "legislation that will effectively create two classes of Americans - Americans with Middle Eastern or Muslim background, and Americans without that background".

"If you thought Donald Trump's divisive, bigoted and blatantly racist rhetoric was just a reflection of the silliness we always face during primary campaigns", as one observer rightly put it, "think again".

As world attention is focused on Trump's racist theatrics, the House of Representatives has just passed the bill with an overwhelming vote of 407-19.

Nothing new

In a country where US-Israeli dual citizens go and as mercenary soldiers fight to steal more of Palestine, and their New York Times columnist father publicly brags about that fact, if an American of Iraqi, Syrian, Iranian, or Libyan origin as much as sets foot in his country of birth she or he is subject to systemic suspicion and discrimination.

These are not easy days for Muslims who live in the US and the horrid criminal acts in San Bernardino or Paris have very little to do with these developments.

They are just a subterfuge. People like Trump and his ilk did not have to wait for the San Bernardino or Paris attacks to occur for their hatred of Muslims or Arabs to surface.

That surfacing is a sign of much deeper troubles.

Trump is a symptom not the disease. He is a decoy, a diversion so outrageous, so disgusting, that it overwhelms and hides the real disease.

Trump's call to ban Muslims from entering the US, or his earlier remark to single out and profile Muslims, or his fellow Republican candidate Ben Carson stating point blank that no Muslim should ever become president, are only the most obnoxious versions of a much more deeply rooted bigotry and racism against Muslims that has been dominant in the US for a very long time, but particularly since 9/11.

If you are distracted by the noxious symptom of Trump you will forget that the democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton only a few weeks ago prided herself to have the entire Iranian people as her enemy.

Today leading American liberals such as Michael Tomasky, taking their cues from like-minded Islamophobes gathered under the banner of "New Atheists", unabashedly expose their racism and single out Muslim Americans and order them to prove their peaceful citizenship in the US by declaring to Muslim Americans that "the rights you have as Americans have to be earned, fought for". Why? By what authority? Who died and made Michael Tomasky the judge and the jury of Muslim Americans peaceful citizenship?

To me this fundamental abrogation of human decency is worse than Trump's vulgarity. It is a fundamental democratic principal that a citizen is innocent unless proved guilty, that a citizen is entitled to his and her inalienable rights, and need not "earn" it or "fight for it".

But who has heard of Tomasky, busy as people are denouncing Donald Trump - and yet to me the roots of Trump are precisely in the pretty liberalism of Tomasky and his ilk.

Historic challenge

The threat the Muslims face today in the US is not limited to fascist wannabes like Trump.

The challenge is much deeper and firmly rooted in the political culture of a country that began its history by the mass murder of Native Americans, continued by the systematic slavery of African Americans, and most recently with a stroke of a pen ordered the US population of Japanese descent incarcerated in concentration (internment) camps during World War II.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/donald-trump-is-a-symptom-not-the-disease/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Candy is naturally a Repug, Michigan

We'll see how many co-sponsors her bill gets. Like all Repugs who adore the Constitution, she treats it with the rough love of ignoring it.

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 10:31 AM
The right-wing media’s hilarious response to Donald Trump’s fascism: It’s all Obama’s fault!

Conservatives now forced to cope with a force of nature in their primary are doing what they do best in response

This week Republicans looked deep into their souls in search of the reason for their party’s descent into a frothing mixture of xenophobia and nativism that, to paraphrase Kyle Reese (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAswVl_KZVU), cannot be bargained with, reasoned with, and will never stop, ever. And there, deep within their hearts, they found the answer: It’s all Barack Obama’s fault.

"The president sought to stave off a backlash against Muslim Americans, which has never materialized on a grand scale over the course of the 14 years that elapsed since 9/11. That does not mean it never will, and it is the president who is inviting such a backlash by allowing the terrorist threat overseas to metastasize and erode Americans’ sense of security at home."

"President Obama was supposed to be someone who unified us as a nation; whose eloquence brought us together in harmony and dialogue; he was supposed to be not just smart, but wise and capable. In all these aspects, the professor in chief has failed[…]

There is a marked frustration in the president’s lectures of the American people, an undercurrent that has only grown over the course of his tenure. At first he was frustrated with politicians in Washington not listening to him. Now he seems more frustrated with the American people for not listening, either."

And just for the heck of it, here is Elizabeth Hasselbeck complaining that people are going to such extremes of fear (http://www.salon.com/2015/12/08/fox_news_elisabeth_hasselbeck_president_obama_is_t o_blame_for_donald_trumps_islamophobic_new_immigra tion_plan/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow) because he hasn’t said or done anything to make her feel safe. (Which she would not have listened to anyway, because her paycheck depends on her not listening to it.)

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/09/the_right_wing_medias_hilarious_response_to_donald _trumps_fascism_its_all_obamas_fault/

xrayzebra
12-09-2015, 10:41 AM
You just gotta love it, The Donald is eating the Democrats alive and own them. As well as the Republicans like Karl Rove. The American people are tired of the crap spewed by the same old crowd. Go Donald, your the man.

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 10:50 AM
You just gotta love it, The Donald is eating the Democrats alive and own them. As well as the Republicans like Karl Rove. The American people are tired of the crap spewed by the same old crowd. Go Donald, your the man.

:lol

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 11:10 AM
http://images.dailykos.com/images/184434/story_image/bo151208.png?1449595921

clambake
12-09-2015, 11:43 AM
why not? i think its killer. he takes the conversation where wimps are afraid to go.

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 12:40 PM
https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/xE8Sg-5Cu9xACDyfZi9qeUIqSE4=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4338453/NYDN%20Donald%20Trump.jpg

rmt
12-09-2015, 01:04 PM
absolutely not, 30% of Repug voters isn't enough win the WH. Sounds like the Repugs are going after him seriously, asking him to withdraw, etc, etc. If he goes 3rd party, then Dems win the WH.

boutons, I think his support comes from the moderate repubs, independents - not the typical republican base. That's why he doesn't do well in conservative states like Iowa. He does do well in the swing states like Florida beating even Rubio and Bush. I think that's why Cruz has been very careful not to say anything against Trump. He knows he can't win the repub nomination but he's hoping Trump wins and asks Cruz to run with him (to get the conservative, evangelical vote). That'd cover the widest spectrum from the far right, moderates, center, independents and any disenchanted democrats.

UK has gathered 200,000 signatures on a petition to ban Trump from the UK - bet most of them are Muslims. Wouldn't it be funny if Trump does become president and is banned from the UK?

Quetzal-X
12-09-2015, 01:08 PM
Rubio cant beat trump imo

He knows after trump becomes the Reality Star In Chief, he will be on that train right along the mexicans and muslims.
He knows he isnt white enough to be excluded from the mass deportations. He dont wanna get on trumps bad side imo.

DarrinS
12-09-2015, 01:26 PM
What an elaborate troll job. I don't like Trump, but he just got the entire media to focus on him for the past 72+ hours.

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 02:20 PM
“He was an actor of genius.

There was no more overwhelming actor on the stage, in the motion pictures, nor even in the pulpit.

He would whirl arms,

bang tables,

glare from mad eyes,

vomit Biblical wrath from a gaping mouth;

but he would also coo like a nursing mother,

beseech like an aching lover, and

in between tricks would coldly and almost contemptuously jab his crowds with figures and facts —

figures and facts that were inescapable even when, as often happened, they were entirely incorrect."

Sinclair Lewis, 75 YEARS AGO, describing his novel's character Berzelius “Buzz” Windrip

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/12/09/trumps-bigotry-revives-fears-it-cant-happen-here

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 02:31 PM
British Petition to Keep Donald Trump Out of Country


http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/12/10/world/europe/10PETITION-WEB/10PETITION-WEB-master675.jpg



LONDON — More than 100,000 people, angered by Donald J. Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/16/us/elections/donald-trump.html?inline=nyt-per)’s call to ban the entry of Muslims into the United States, have signed a petition accusing him of hate speech and asking the British government to bar him from the country.

So many people have signed the online petition that Parliament is now required to consider debating the matter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/world/europe/donald-trump-muslims-british-petition.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 03:55 PM
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12342835_10153756285216800_1103509613085234621_n.j pg?oh=e1be2f1945c0e0e7ccd66df7ccf64e9f&oe=5720DD03

ChumpDumper
12-09-2015, 04:16 PM
Q_B9tHGgJp0

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 09:38 PM
Hey Paul Ryan, Here’s Proof That Donald Trump Represents Exactly What Your Party Stands For

House Speaker Paul Ryan even weighed in, stating in part, “What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for.”

JUst look at this list of absurdity coming from the Republican party and conservative media:

Mike Huckabee compared Planned Parenthood to terrorists.

Ted Cruz accused President Obama of wanting to bring Syrian refugees here to slaughter Americans.

Marco Rubio called same-sex marriage a “real and present danger” to Christianity.

Several Republicans at different levels of government (including Cruz, Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert) added legitimacy to the radical conspiracy theory that the Jade Helm military exercise was a plot by the Obama administration to seize guns.

Sean Hannity became a cheerleader for Cliven Bundy, a racist criminal who encouraged people to take up arms against federal agents because he doesn’t want to follow the law.

Fox News’ Eric Bolling touted the “success” of Japanese internment camps and stated that we should declare a “holy war” on Islam.

Another Fox News personality, Dr. Keith Ablow, advocated that the United States declare an “American jihad” on the world, essentially forcing our views on anyone who doesn’t agree to adhere to them willingly. Huckabee called President Obama a “pretend Christian.”

Frequent Fox News guest and conservative personality Ann Coulter has essentially become a one-woman hate group. Draft-dodging, racist piece of scum Ted Nugent, who once said that the “piece of sh*t” President Obama could suck on his machine gun and called Hillary Clinton a “toxic c*nt,” – is adored and embraced. It’s common practice to suggest that President Obama is un-American and trying to destroy this country.

Another Fox News personality, Andrea Tantaros, said President Obama is allowing ISIS to grow stronger because he feels the U.S. has been oppressive to Muslims.

A Fox News show geared toward women, Outnumbered, actually defended the public sexual harassment of women.

Two Fox News analysts were suspended for hurling profanities at the United States of America. Rush Limbaugh, one of the most deplorable personalities on radio, is revered as a “credible news” source.

A gay soldier who was actually deployed in Iraq was booed by an audience of conservatives at a 2012 debate – without a single candidate on stage having the courage to condemn the response.

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/hey-paul-ryan-proof-donald-trump-represents-exactly-what-party-stands-for/

iow, Trump expresses EXACTLY the nasty, dishonest extremism of the Repug party

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 09:44 PM
Trump Insists His Proposed Muslim Ban Has 'Nothing To Do With Religion'


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-proposed-muslim-ban-religion?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

InRareForm
12-09-2015, 09:51 PM
Trump is a douche bag

boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 09:54 PM
Trump is a douche bag

... his supporters are shitbags

boutons_deux
12-10-2015, 11:13 AM
Borat Crashes 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' To Trash Donald Trump

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/borat-crashes-jimmy-kimmel-live_56697c34e4b009377b23e56a?cps=gravity_2450_178 7431145033521960

Blizzardwizard
12-10-2015, 11:54 AM
As mentioned before, Donald Trump is clearly a social experiment to test how racist 'Murica is.

Trill Clinton
12-10-2015, 12:07 PM
this lady is what i imagine most of his supporters are like. a bunch of loony, racist, uneducated, weirdos.

674951793873453056

this guy is just repeating whatever he heard and really doesn't know wdh he's talking about. if you scared, say you're scared and stop talking out ya ass.

674790510360403968

DMX7
12-10-2015, 12:18 PM
If I were Trump, I would be embarrassed that some of these people are my supporters. But I get the sense that Trump just has an egotistical need to be loved by the masses, and this is as close as he can get to that feeling. It showed itself early on when he used to chant "Trump, Trump, Trump" in a crescendo to lead his audience in a cheer that rarely materialized (making him look especially ridiculous). However, he has really found his voice now. No politician in a generation has used this brand of "us vs. them" rhetoric, the kind that propelled Hitler to higher office. It's too bad. He had potential, but he has really blown it. He's not a serious candidate anymore despite leading in nearly all of the primary polls. He can't win the office of POTUS.

boutons_deux
12-10-2015, 12:40 PM
"He had potential"

bull fucking shit

xrayzebra
12-10-2015, 12:54 PM
:lmao:lmaoOh, Trump and his supporters are living rent free in you twerps mind. You just gotta love it. His popularity keeps growing and at this rate Hillary, the pimp, will lose in a landslide........:lmao:lmao He has you :downspin:

Go Trump you the man.

DMX7
12-10-2015, 01:54 PM
:lmao:lmaoOh, Trump and his supporters are living rent free in you twerps mind. You just gotta love it. His popularity keeps growing and at this rate Hillary, the pimp, will lose in a landslide........:lmao:lmao He has you :downspin:

Go Trump you the man.

As you can see from many of my earlier posts, I supported many of Trump's positions, but he has simply gone too far. So even as an objective observer, I can tell the ride won't end well for him. He can't win the general election anymore.

tlongII
12-10-2015, 03:06 PM
So he proposed not letting any more Muslims enter the U.S.? So fucking what? Anybody can see that radical Islam terrorism is the #1 or #2 issue in the American public's mind today. I don't think he would be able to prevent them from immigrating in practice. He's just stating what he feels, and many Americans feel the same way.

Blizzardwizard
12-10-2015, 04:07 PM
this lady is what i imagine most of his supporters are like. a bunch of loony, racist, uneducated, weirdos.

674951793873453056

this guy is just repeating whatever he heard and really doesn't know wdh he's talking about. if you scared, say you're scared and stop talking out ya ass.

674790510360403968

Oh my, that poor, unassuming racist was just incinerated on live tv. RIP.

rmt
12-10-2015, 05:39 PM
As you can see from many of my earlier posts, I supported many of Trump's positions, but he has simply gone too far. So even as an objective observer, I can tell the ride won't end well for him. He can't win the general election anymore.

I might not agree with all of Trump's positions, but of all of the others running (on both sides), he's the least likely to be in someone's pocket and doing their bidding. I never thought I'd vote for someone like Trump (he is so arrogant and obnoxious) but he doesn't have to kowtow to any donor which most of the rest have to (Hillary is especially dangerous in this respect because some of hers are foreign).

boutons_deux
12-10-2015, 05:51 PM
So he proposed not letting any more Muslims enter the U.S.? So fucking what?

IS AN IMMIGRATION BAN ON MUSLIMS UNCONSTITUTIONAL?

DECEMBER 8, 2015 (http://ericposner.com/is-an-immigration-ban-on-muslims-unconstitutional/) ERIC POSNER (http://ericposner.com/author/ericposner/)

Probably not.

The Supreme Court has held consistently, for more than a century, that constitutional protections that normally benefit Americans and people on American territory do not apply when Congress decides who to admit and who to exclude as immigrants or other entrants.

This is called the plenary power doctrine (http://www.jstor.org/stable/796662?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents).

The Court has repeatedly turned away challenges to immigration statutes and executive actions on grounds that they discriminate on the basis of race, national origin, and political belief, and that they deprive foreign nationals of due process protections.

While the Court has not ruled on religious discrimination, it has also never given the slightest indication that religion would be exempt from the general rule.

http://ericposner.com/is-an-immigration-ban-on-muslims-unconstitutional/

that's "so fucking what"

DMX7
12-10-2015, 05:52 PM
I might not agree with all of Trump's positions, but of all of the others running (on both sides), he's the least likely to be in someone's pocket and doing their bidding. I never thought I'd vote for someone like Trump (he is so arrogant and obnoxious) but he doesn't have to kowtow to any donor which most of the rest have to (Hillary is especially dangerous in this respect because some of hers are foreign).

I don't love Hillary's character and I'm not really much of a supporter of her, but I don't doubt her enough to think she would do things anti-american because a founder she supports got money from foreigners (or whatever the case was).

boutons_deux
12-10-2015, 06:04 PM
Repug establishment planning for a brokered convention as a way to kick Trump out.

rmt
12-10-2015, 06:09 PM
I don't love Hillary's character and I'm not really much of a supporter of her, but I don't doubt her enough to think she would do things anti-american because a founder she supports got money from foreigners (or whatever the case was).

I think Hillary is much better than Obama who fundamentally does want to change America. Hillary, I see as saying whatever way the wind is blowing (not to harm America) but to serve her selfish (financial) purposes. Bernie is much more unselfish, idealistic (motivation-wise) but I think his policies are wacko.

tlongII
12-10-2015, 07:44 PM
IS AN IMMIGRATION BAN ON MUSLIMS UNCONSTITUTIONAL?

DECEMBER 8, 2015 (http://ericposner.com/is-an-immigration-ban-on-muslims-unconstitutional/) ERIC POSNER (http://ericposner.com/author/ericposner/)

Probably not.

The Supreme Court has held consistently, for more than a century, that constitutional protections that normally benefit Americans and people on American territory do not apply when Congress decides who to admit and who to exclude as immigrants or other entrants.

This is called the plenary power doctrine (http://www.jstor.org/stable/796662?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents).

The Court has repeatedly turned away challenges to immigration statutes and executive actions on grounds that they discriminate on the basis of race, national origin, and political belief, and that they deprive foreign nationals of due process protections.

While the Court has not ruled on religious discrimination, it has also never given the slightest indication that religion would be exempt from the general rule.

http://ericposner.com/is-an-immigration-ban-on-muslims-unconstitutional/

that's "so fucking what"

Sounds good to me. Immigration to America is not a right.

boutons_deux
12-10-2015, 09:21 PM
Sounds good to me. Immigration to America is not a right.

you're illiterate

tlongII
12-10-2015, 09:22 PM
you're illiterate

You're a loon.

Quetzal-X
12-10-2015, 10:11 PM
you're illiterate


Just how repugs and WWE like'em yeehaww!!!

Quetzal-X
12-10-2015, 10:25 PM
Im gonna be honest. I fucking hope Trump starts gettin more bad ass and brave and gets ta' feelin' himself and just comes right out and says what his WWE supporters want:

Look as your new Game Show TV Host in Chief I will make sure to overturn Civil Rights! Thats the problem right there but no one wants to say it. WHY(shrug)? WHY(shrug duck lipped pucker) Its time we get 'merica back to White Power! Its gonna be YOUUUUUJ!!!

Th'Pusher
12-10-2015, 10:38 PM
I think Hillary is much better than Obama who fundamentally does want to change America. Hillary, I see as saying whatever way the wind is blowing (not to harm America) but to serve her selfish (financial) purposes. Bernie is much more unselfish, idealistic (motivation-wise) but I think his policies are wacko.
When you reference Obama's desire to fundamentally change America, what specifically do you think he wants to change?

Quetzal-X
12-10-2015, 10:56 PM
rmt-
why do you think trump will not be influenced by $$$? Wealthy people dont just let opportunitie$ go by, shit thats probably why politicians enter gov doin ok and come out wayy fuckin well off. Why on earth would you think a real rich motherfucker tv gameshow host would turn away an opportunity to get richer?

Quetzal-X
12-10-2015, 11:12 PM
//

rmt
12-10-2015, 11:57 PM
Do you think Trump is in the same situation like Rubio with 4 young children in private school, college ahead, student loans just paid off, etc. or Hillary as before when she claimed she was dead broke. How has she gone from being dead broke to having millions in her foundation? That's a whole lot of favors she owes.

Trump comes from money - that alone makes him think differently - there's not that desperation - that knowledge of what it's like to be hungry or in want. He's got billions, already flies around in his helicopter, lives in a place that looks grander than the White House. Why would someone in his position even put up with the aggravation of running for president? I think it's because he sees the way the country is going and knows that his precious hotels cannot be successful in a country where (in the future) more and more are poor - he needs the economy/country to be strong in order for his hotels to continue to be successful. Have you wondered why people have not used the typical methods to bring down Trump like boycotting his hotels? Those people/companies who use his real estate probably believe what he says.

Even my democrat uncle said today that Trump is driving everyone crazy because they can't control him, he can say whatever he wants. The establishment republicans probably fear him more than Hillary. They've spent the last 7 years bowing down and letting Obama do whatever he wants. It's BECAUSE he's rich that he can say what he wants and the typical methods - media, job pressure, protests, boycotts don't trouble him. That's why people like him - because he fights (he's not going to back down on anything he believes in), he can't be bought (because he already has his money) and he says what they believe but can't say because they'd lose their job, get labeled a xxxx.

I also think that Trump is smart enough not to waste political capital on social issues. Things like Planned Parenthood is a no win situation - the repubs are fighting a useless battle but still they waste time on it. Trump knows that the best way to affect the country is to do it through jobs. When there are jobs, a lot of problems are solved. You can help yourself and others - welfare, all this social engineering (talk of free college, free healthcare, etc go away). The trade deals, lowering the corporate tax rate (so that the companies come back), an amnesty period to bring back the money parked abroad, closing the borders so that we don't have to take care of this constant stream of people coming in (our social, education systems are strained) - these are the things that will help the country the most. And because of his experience in business, I hope that he will be the best one to bring the jobs back.

I fear though that he's gone too far this time. This ban on Muslims is never gonna happen even if a lot of people agree with him that they should just PAUSE until they get a handle on things.

Nbadan
12-11-2015, 12:44 AM
I don't think Trump would have a chance against Hillary in the General....that said, IMO Trump may be a dog a pony show to stop any other GOP contender from gaining traction..

boutons_deux
12-11-2015, 06:08 AM
Mark Cuban compares Donald Trump to guy at the bar trying 'to get laid'

During an appearance on Comedy Central’s Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore, the outspoken billionaire said of Trump: “He’s like that guy who’s going into a bar, and he’ll say whatever it’ll take to get laid. Only in this case he’s not trying to (expletive) some girl, he’s trying to (expletive) the country. “

This isn’t the first time that Cuban has been connected with the Trump campaign. In September, the GOP frontrunner hosted an event at Cuban’s Dallas arena.

He also said that Trump’s run has caused him to reevaluate his own political future (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-2016-mark-cuban-213590), and predicted that he would crush Trump or Hilary Clinton, the frontrunner in the Democratic primary, according to a Dallas Morning News report (http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-mavericks/mavericks/2015/09/14/mark-cuban-crush-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-ran-president).

While the two billionaires have often sparred, Cuban said that he does like Trump, and likened him to a friend with a good heart, who continuously does and says stupid things.

http://m.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Mark-Cuban-compares-Donald-Trump-to-guy-at-the-6686964.php

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-2016-mark-cuban-213590

Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-11-2015, 11:23 AM
Trump sistas want him to build the wall and build it tall

oIXGpScZ0Cg

Meanwhile Bernie assumes the liberal position

http://i.imgur.com/DdQlaVZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pLW4N0T.jpg

Quetzal-X
12-11-2015, 01:29 PM
These 2 sistas are what you call house slaves. They dont neva wanna leave massa. Please dont send us out your beautiful house massa. Noo Sahh I bet these 2 fucking hate black folks too. Always gotta be a Uncle Tom Ass Nigga dippityboppin n performin' for massa like a goddamn dog. Just like Mexicans thinking trump and repugs give any shits about non whites. tbqfh.

boutons_deux
12-11-2015, 09:06 PM
the Trump family Christmas newsletter

Dear family & friends, except any of you loser dopes who have said anything bad about me this year, you're low-energy and pathetic and it's really a wonder anybody likes you, you're so unlikable.

What a year it has been! I mean, really, just a big, great, amazing year. You don't get years like this anymore, you know what I mean? I dunno. We just don't have good years like we used to. I don't know what's going on.

But this year. This year has been great and the greatest thing to happen this year has been me running for president and getting people to believe — so many people, it's really remarkable — that we can MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. It's on the hat, you've seen the hat. It's a great hat and you'll all be getting one, except for the low-energy dopes I mentioned earlier, they don't deserve hats. They get no hats.

But the rest of you will get hats and you'll get them because you know — you know! — that we have so many problems in this country. We do. We have problems and we just don't win anymore, we don't have victories. This newsletter is a victory, it's one, we have this one, that's for sure.

This Christmas newsletter … you see I used the word "Christmas" there, the politically correct people, they're gonna be on me about that. Cause you can't say Merry Christmas anymore, right? You just can't. Well guess what? I'm not politically correct and I say what the people are thinking and what the people are thinking is "Merry Christmas" and so that's what we're going to say in this Christmas newsletter, which is going to be such a beautiful thing, you'll see.

So there. Boom. I said it. Merry Christmas.

I have to get back to what matters which is what happened in the Trump family this year. Big news, am I right? Of course I am, I'm always right, I know things. I don't know how I know things, I just do. Always have. That's why I've made so much money and built such beautiful buildings, buildings everywhere, people say they're just the best, kind of like my Christmas fruitcakes. You'll each get one, even the dopes, maybe it'll help with their low-energy, because the fruitcakes are very good, people say they're the best. They say, "Wow. Donald, I've never had a fruitcake like this, it's amazing. Nobody bakes things like you do." And it's true. It is, I'm not lying.

I bake real good and I build good things and that's why we're going to build a wall. That's right. A big, beautiful, magnificent wall, and we're going to decorate it for Christmas and hang garland and it's just going to be the most amazing thing you've ever seen, you'll be so proud. And the Mexicans are going to pay for it, they will, I promise you, and Feliz Navidad to my many Mexican friends, the Mexicans love me.

They love me, and they want this wall too. They do. They know it.

And we need it, folks. We need it. We have so many problems, and that's another big thing that happened in the Trump family this year. I figured out that there's something wrong. I don't know what it is, but I can feel it. I mean, honestly, look at this guy coming around at Christmas, big fat loser who just comes in from wherever, he says it's the North Pole but I don't believe that. We don't know where this guy is coming from or what he wants, but we know he's passing over our borders easily. Does he mean us harm? Is he radicalized? We don't know. Our government doesn't know. They can't screen for that.

We're not safe. We're not safe with this guy, this radical coming in here, sneaking into our homes, judging our children. People don't want you to talk about him, they say you can't say anything bad about Santa Claus, you have to be nice, you have to be politically correct, or he'll put you on a list. What is this list? When I proposed a list for Muslims everyone got mad, why does this guy get a list?

Look, I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking. Who is this guy? He's from another country, we know nothing about his culture, he's got these elves. You gonna sit here and tell me those elves aren't weird? THEY'RE WEIRD! Who has elves. Are they Christian? No. Doubt it. Why does their leader have a beard? I mean, c'mon, this is simple logic. We have to keep our country safe.

What I've proposed is a temporary ban on Santa Claus, reindeer, flying sleighs and elves. Just until we can get our hands around this issue. They call him a "jolly old elf" — and I have many elf friends, they're beautiful people, I have so many great friends who are elves, I've rented apartments to many elves, they love me and we get along great, they have adorable ears — but obviously there's a lot we don't know about these people.

So in conclusion, it has been a great year — really the best year, I'd say, and I know. The other members of the Trump family have done some things, good things, probably better things than any of your family members have done. I won't get into details here, but just know the things they've done this year have been truly great and good, but mainly they've supported me, which is important because we have to save our country.

So Merry Christmas to all of you. There are some beautiful holiday gifts you can buy on my website, and my books. They're really good. I write great books, everybody knows that, I'm a genius, really. I mean it's just true. Look at how successful I've been.

I've won at everything. Including Christmas newsletters. Tell me this isn't the best Christmas newsletter you've ever gotten. Of course it's the best, I wrote it. I don't fail. I win.

And I hope you and your family win in 2016, and you will as long as you vote for me for president because I will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, you'll see, you know it will happen.

Merry Christmas, except to the dopes.

— Donald J. Trump and family

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-trump-christmas-newsletter-huppke-20151211-story.html

Reck
12-11-2015, 09:10 PM
Dope is supposed to be insulting?

From where I'm from, dope is meant as something cool as fuck.

boutons_deux
12-11-2015, 09:14 PM
The overall premise, however, is that "the left" created Donald Trump, in that the Republican presidential race, party, and totem of ideas has been put through a wood chipper by Donald Trump and his fellow extremists only because the left goaded an apparently brick-stupid Republican base into it.

The left, you see, tries so hard to be Gallant that it can't be helped if fed-up Goofus eventually starts setting fires and eating people's skins just to get attention. Or something—it gets a bit sketchy.


[P]rogressives are the champions of every minority group’s grievance, so Trump gives voice to white grievance.

Progressives are suspicious of truth claims, except their own.

Trump makes sweeping statements with firmness and conviction, tenaciously holding on even when they are proven false—which is attractive to Americans who are sick of progressives’ self-serving narrative about how everyone is wrong except them.

Progressives are suspicious of all authority, except when they wield it.

Trump refuses to grant the progressive divine right to rule and flaunts his autocratic personae. Progressives are fixated on welcoming everyone, even to the point of abdicating routine border control and endangering national security. Trump feeds on fear and suspicion of outsiders.

So conservatives like Donald Trump because he gives voice to white grievance, and because he is an unapologetic liar even about easily provable things, and because he is an autocrat who doesn't give a rat's ass what the laws and Constitution say, and because he flat-out doesn't trust brown people. There you go.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/12/1458271/-A-conservative-explains-Donald-Trump-He-gives-voice-to-white-grievance-and-it-s-liberals-fault?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

Nbadan
12-12-2015, 12:57 AM
Poll: Nearly Two-Thirds Of Likely GOP Voters Back Trump’s Muslim Ban
Source: Talking Points Memo


Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump’s recent proposal to ban all Muslims from entering the U.S. has far from hurt his poll numbers; in fact, a poll released Wednesday found that almost two-thirds of GOP primary voters back the widely-condemned plan.

In a new Bloomberg Politics/Purple Strategies poll, 37 percent of all likely general election voters said they support Trump’s plan while 65 percent of likely Republican primary voters said they back the ban.

Support for the controversial proposal remained nearly unchanged after those surveyed were presented with more information about the plan, including the statement “it will make our country less safe by alienating the allies we need to fight ISIS.”

“We believe these numbers are made up of some people who are truly expressing religious bigotry and others who are fearful about terrorism and are willing to do anything they think might make us safer,” Doug Usher, leader of Purple Strategies’ research arm, said of the results.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/trump-muslim-ban-voter-support?utm_content=buffer38f59&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Among all voters, 46% favor a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States, while 40% are opposed. " according to Rassmussen...

boutons_deux
12-12-2015, 01:11 AM
Rassmussen is in-house Repug tool

WSJ had 2-1 against the ban.

it's all a bunch of hypothetical bullshit. Trump will never be Pres.

boutons_deux
12-12-2015, 06:25 AM
Expert: New England police union that endorsed Trump doesn’t represent most officers’ views

The New England police association that made a controversial splash by endorsing Donald Trump doesn’t represent the views of most police officers in the region and doesn’t negotiate any labor contracts, a law enforcement expert said Friday.

Before its “presidential candidate’s forum” in Portsmouth Thursday night, the New England Police Benevolent Association said in a letter to presidential campaign directors (http://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20151208/NEWS/151209290) that it “will NOT endorse any candidate who does NOT personally attend our candidate forum.”

Donald Trump was the only candidate present. He received the organization’s official endorsement. :lol

The group, which claims to be (http://nepba.org/about-us) the “fastest-growing law enforcement organization in the northeastern United States,” has nearly 5,000 members across New England.

But what does that vote of confidence really mean? Nothing, according to Tom Nolan, a former Boston Police Department lieutenant who now teaches criminology at Merrimack College.

“Up until a few months ago,,” Nolan said. “This is some wingnut faction of cops who came together and made up some club, and then try to get on the national stage by doing these grandstanding political things.”

Nolan said he was not aware of the organization, which was founded in 2005, endorsing a presidential candidate in the past. The group’s executive director, Jerry Flynn, a Lowell policeman who’s currently on leave, did not respond to a request for comment from Boston.com.

Nolan, who served in the Boston police force for 27 years, said the association’s views don’t represent those of most police officers in New England—especially of those in Boston.

“They’re trying to give the impression that they represent Boston police officers, but they’re not a labor union that actually negotiates contracts,” he said. “This organization is largely constituted by small departments in New Hampshire that are attempting to get a big splash.”

The association first garnered attention in September when it announced a boycott of President Barack Obama’s Labor Day speech in Boston because it felt his administration was silent on violence against police officers.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2015/12/11/expert-new-england-police-union-that-endorsed-trump-doesn-represent-most-officers-views/4VRS3ZHt07qCjjnvZaUqoL/story.html?p1=feature_pri_hp

boutons_deux
12-12-2015, 06:43 AM
Goose-Steppers in the G.O.P.

Well, he’s got the Hitler vote. The neo-Nazi website, Daily Stormer, was out and proud earlier this week: “Heil Donald Trump — the Ultimate Savior.”

After endorsing the Republican presidential front-runner earlier this year for his call to deport 11 million Mexican immigrants, the fomenters of American fascism have now added an apt twist to his slogan, one not far from the truth of the campaign:

“Make America White Again.”

Add to that supporters of the Ku Klux Klan, who’ve thrown in with Trump as well. David Duke, a former grand wizard of the Klan, liked everything he heard from Trump this week, embracing him for standing up for white nationalism.what about the 35 percent of Republican voters, in the New York Times/CBS News poll, who say they’re all in with the man sieg heiled by aspiring brownshirts and men in white sheets?

The Republican Party is now home to millions of people who would throw out the Constitution,

welcome a police state against Latinos and Muslims, and

enforce a religious test for entry into a country built by people fleeing religious persecution.

This stuff polls well in their party, even if the Bill of Rights does not.

To review: He started with “the blacks,” through his smear campaign on the citizenship of the nation’s first African-American president.

Moved on to Mexicans, war veterans, women who look less than flawless in middle age, the disabled, all Muslims and now people whose grandparents were rousted from their American homes and put in camps.

His supporters, most of them, do not see the shadow of the Reich when they look in the mirror. They are white, lower middle class, with little education beyond high school.

What he’s done is to give marginalized Americans permission to hate. He doesn’t use dog whistles or code. His bigotry is overt.

But the table was set by years of dog whistles and code.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/opinion/campaign-stops/goose-steppers-in-the-gop.html

boutons_deux
12-12-2015, 07:02 AM
Trump Is Latest Version Of Long-Held Republican Strategy

Trumpism is embedded in the Republican Party’s DNA, the cornerstone of its modern structure. Desperate to peel working-class whites away from their allegiance to the Democratic Party, associated since Franklin Roosevelt with the interests of the common man, the GOP played to the social and cultural fears and prejudices of less-educated whites with a Southern strategy honed by the late Lee Atwater, once a prominent Republican operative.

Over the years, the Republican Party has refined and broadened that strategy. And it has been used by every Republican presidential candidate since

Barry Goldwater, from

Richard Nixon (“law and order”) to the sainted

Ronald Reagan (states’ rights) to even the genteel

George H.W. Bush (Willie Horton),

cultivating the loyalty of working-class whites while simultaneously alienating black and brown voters. With the rise of a gay rights movement, homophobia has also become an honored tenet of that strategy.

When the nation elected its first black president in 2008, disaffected working-class whites became ever more resentful, many of them channeling their rage into a tea party movement that pledged to “take back” the country. How did the Republican establishment respond to that? By running from immigration reform, by indulging the birther movement, by disparaging Obama at every turn as a radical who would ruin the country and a weak-kneed coward who would give in to terrorists.

It worked.

While a whopping 66 percent of Trump’s supporters believe Obama is a Muslim,

a solid 54 percent of Republicans overall think the same thing, polls show.

And 54 percent of Republicans also believe no Muslim should be elected president.

So the establishment wants to get rid of Trump? He may leave the race, but Trumpism is likely to linger for a long time.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-is-latest-version-of-long-held-republican-strategy/

"Repugs: We aren't racists" :lol

Repug reachout? :lol

And of course the article leaves out the Repug War on Women

boutons_deux
12-12-2015, 10:08 PM
WATCH: Security guards at Trump speech violently shove female protester to the ground


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/watch-security-guards-at-trump-speech-violently-shove-female-protester-to-the-ground/

TheSanityAnnex
12-12-2015, 10:15 PM
Trump will never be Pres.
You sure do spend a ton of free time talking about the guy who will never be Pres. Awesome social life you've got.

boutons_deux
12-12-2015, 10:18 PM
Trump is important because he exposes the 10Ms of shitty people in America.

TheSanityAnnex
12-12-2015, 10:34 PM
Trump is important because he exposes the 10Ms of shitty people in America.
And your constant spamming is important because.....

boutons_deux
12-12-2015, 10:38 PM
And your constant spamming is important because.....

who said it's important?

TheSanityAnnex
12-12-2015, 10:41 PM
who said it's important?

If it's not important dont you seem to be wasting your own valuable time?

boutons_deux
12-12-2015, 10:50 PM
If it's not important dont you seem to be wasting your own valuable time?

:lol I spend my time how I want, but I deeply appreciate your concern.

mingus
12-13-2015, 12:04 AM
Liberals compare Donald Trump to Hitler and they want me to explain how they fear monger. :rolleyes

mingus
12-13-2015, 12:13 AM
Trump is important because he exposes the 10Ms of shitty people in America.

They don't agree with my politics! They must be shitty people!

boutons_deux
12-13-2015, 07:24 AM
They don't agree with my politics! They must be shitty people!

Supporting Trump, voting Repug is SHITTY, and fucking insane.

Ask the families of 5000+ dead military from Repug failed wars, ask the 10Ks of red/state Americans dying from want of medical care.

Repug politics is a blood and money sport

Florida kicks 9,000 chronically ill, disabled kids out of healthcare system (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/12/1458266/-Florida-kicks-9-000-chronically-ill-disabled-kids-out-of-healthcare-system)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/12/1458266/-Florida-kicks-9-000-chronically-ill-disabled-kids-out-of-healthcare-system?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

boutons_deux
12-13-2015, 07:26 AM
Liberals compare Donald Trump to Hitler and they want me to explain how they fear monger. :rolleyes

Trump and the entire Repug Klown Kar are to be feared. They are the greatest threat to the lives and quality of life of the 99%, greater than Muslim terrorists.

boutons_deux
12-13-2015, 08:07 AM
Ted Cruz takes substantial lead over Trump in Iowa (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheRawStory/~3/8PE5UrPTTM8/)

http://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/cruz_face-800x430.jpg

Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas has taken a substantial lead among Republican presidential candidates in the Iowa caucus, leading second-place Donald Trump by 10 percentage points in a new survey released Saturday night.

The Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics poll confirmed a recent trend that has shown Cruz gaining in the state,

The poll released Saturday showed Cruz as the first choice for 31 percent of those who responded, with Trump having support from 21 percent and Carson coming in third with 13 percent.

Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, with 10 percent, was the only other candidate in the double digits.

Cruz also led all candidates when voters were asked for their second-choice candidate, underscoring his strength in the state.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/ted-cruz-takes-substantial-lead-over-trump-in-iowa/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Santorum won Iowa! :lol

Racist Repugs aren't going to elect an even an Uncle Tom of a black guy. Carson is crumpling.

Now we'll see if Donny T, with his master race aryan hairdo, will attack Cruz.

I'd love a Trump-Cruz ticket :lol

boutons_deux
12-13-2015, 08:24 AM
Trump Sets His Own Campaign on Fire: The Donald's Increasingly Insane Behavior Is All Part of a Strategy

Trump's brazen rhetoric and willingness to run as an independent may be proof that he was bullshitting us all along.

“I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.” – Walter Sobchak, “The Big Lebowski”

It may be too generous to call Donald Trump a fascist or a jingoist – that implies he actually believes something. If you look closely at his past, however, you’ll find nothing resembling a philosophy or a value system.

He’s flopped with the political winds for decades, taking contradictory positions on a number of issues, including health care, taxes, gun control, and foreign policy.

As Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/will-the-real-donald-trump-please-stand-up-120607) reported back in July, “Over the past two decades he [Trump] was a Republican, then an independent, then a Democrat, then a Republican. Now, registered as an independent, he leads the Republican 2016 presidential field.” This incoherence is reflected in Trump’s public remarks as well.

In 1999 (http://partners.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/102599wh-ref-trump.html), for example, Trump left the GOP, saying “I believe the Republicans are just too crazy right.”

Five years later, after quitting the Reform Party, Trump officially registered as a Democrat, telling CNN’s Wolf Blitzer (http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/21/politics/donald-trump-election-democrat/) that “It just seems that the economy does better under Democrats.”

Also in 1999 (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914), Trump said he was “very pro-choice,” yet in January he told Bloomberg News that he’s “pro-life and I have [always] been pro-life.”

And the list goes on.

Like almost everyone else in the media, I’ve spent an egregious amount of my time analyzing Trump – Is he serious? What’s his strategy? Does he really want to be president? We’ll never know for sure what Trump was thinking when he lurched into this race, but

this much is clear: He’s in over his head.

I suspect even Trump underestimated how stupid and credulous the conservatives supporting him would be. :lol

He’s dominated the polls for several months now without dignity or the aid of a single substantive idea or proposal – only half-baked slogans and incendiary rhetoric. And no matter how offensive he is, or who he insults (including Veterans (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/us/politics/trump-belittles-mccains-war-record.html)), his numbers go up.

One indication that Trump is torpedoing his own campaign is that he continues to float the idea (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/674317248803307520) of running as an independent, not a Republican. If he wants to preserve his brand and ensure that he has no chance of becoming president, this makes a lot of sense. Were he to win the Republican nomination, he would almost certainly lose a general election, but there’s no guarantee of that.

As an independent, however, he’d have even less of a chance to win, but he would have all the leverage in the world without the fear of his bluff being called. And he’d remain in good standing with his followers, who would interpret such a move as more evidence of Trump’s anti-establishment credentials.

Is this not the best of all possible outcomes for Trump at this point?

If it happens that Trump was, in fact, bullshitting this entire time, then it makes him all the more detestable.

He appears completely indifferent to the consequences of his campaign. He’s made a mockery of our political process and he’s cultivated a dangerous climate with his fascistic rhetoric (http://www.salon.com/2015/12/08/fascism_is_all_the_rage_in_europe_and_its_coming_t o_america/), and for no reason but his own self-aggrandizement.

Trump would collapse under the weight of his own shame if he were capable of that emotion.

But, alas, he isn’t, and so the circus rolls on.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trump-sets-his-own-campaign-fire-donalds-increasingly-insane-behavior-all-part

You and other assholes supporting Trump are just like the stupid, credulous assholes who were in love, maybe still are, with pitbull bitch.

mingus
12-13-2015, 05:24 PM
Trump and the entire Repug Klown Kar are to be feared. They are the greatest threat to the lives and quality of life of the 99%, greater than Muslim terrorists.

I get that. You're position on Trump and Republicans is well-documented here.

But you dodged my statement.

Why is the Trump comparison to Hitler an apt one, other than for functioning as a scare/fear-mongering tactic?

It's funny to me that you play the mud-slinging game, and cry when it's done to your political heroes.

boutons_deux
12-13-2015, 05:33 PM
Why is the Trump comparison to Hitler an apt one, other than for functioning as a scare/fear-mongering tactic?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250910&p=8302936&viewfull=1#post8302936

Trump's game is an old, well-known one, he invented nothing.

And the American "good Germans" fall in line behind him.

Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-13-2015, 06:40 PM
He's even starting to redpill MSNBC

LIeIx2HJUAs

http://i.imgur.com/j2rpwrp.jpg

boutons_deux
12-13-2015, 06:54 PM
Donald Trump’s ex-wife Ivana related (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-used-to-keep-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-according-to-his-ex-wife-a6765391.html) in a 1990 interview with Vanity Fair (http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/donald-trump-marie-brenner-ivana-divorce) that “from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.”

Trump confirmed that the former Mrs. Trump’s 1990 assertion is true.

The Hitler volume, “My New Order” not only contains 23 years’ worth of Hitler’s speeches, “it is profusely indexed and filled with details about the speeches’ impact on the media and the political establishment.”

According to a literary periodical, Kirkus Review, Trump’s collection of Hitler speeches contains (https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/adolf-hitler-2/my-new-order/) “actual quotations from Hitler’s own utterances, including corresponding data showing the effect on the world press.

Section after section follows pattern-background, speech, press;” and Donald Trump faithfully follows Hitler’s model.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/12/13/donald-trump-sounds-acts-adolf-hitler-running-fuhrer.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Quetzal-X
12-13-2015, 10:13 PM
Whats the worst that might happen if this orangutan haired motherfucker gets voted in by his supporters?

Aztecfan03
12-13-2015, 10:40 PM
Boutons must love Trump. He has more than double the amount of posts as anyone else in this thread.

boutons_deux
12-13-2015, 10:44 PM
Donald Trump Really Doesn’t Want Me to Tell You This, But …

http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5668ac8f3da6b2362869a9d3/master/h_600,c_limit/mark-bowden-playboy-donald-trump-1996.jpg
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/12/donald-trump-mark-bowden-playboy-profile

rmt
12-14-2015, 01:07 PM
Trump hits a new high in national poll
The billionaire businessman surges to 41 percent after releasing proposal to ban all Muslims from entering the U.S.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/poll-trump-new-high-216741#ixzz3uJshL7yb

Not just repubs but some independents too - maybe those MSNBC online polls weren't so off. And the comments on this Politico piece are telling - usually dominated by liberals.

DMX7
12-14-2015, 01:28 PM
WATCH: Security guards at Trump speech violently shove female protester to the ground


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/watch-security-guards-at-trump-speech-violently-shove-female-protester-to-the-ground/

Dude, it's wrong and not appropriate. But Donald can't be held responsible for something his security guards or followers do.

boutons_deux
12-14-2015, 02:12 PM
Dude, it's wrong and not appropriate. But Donald can't be held responsible for something his security guards or followers do.

he pays them, he's responsible for their behavior.

DMX7
12-14-2015, 02:21 PM
he pays them, he's responsible for their behavior.

Legally, he may bear some responsibility. But morally, we all know they acted on their own. Mr Trump wants protesters to be treated with respect (except one time where there was a misunderstanding). He firmly believes that if they would simply listen to his ideas, then they too may become Trump supporters.

boutons_deux
12-14-2015, 02:26 PM
for the bad press he's getting, for the brutality in his name, he can fire them.

boutons_deux
12-14-2015, 03:15 PM
Trump Is Proposing To Ban Muslims While Simultaneously Making Billions In Muslim Countries

Donald Trump’s recent call to ban all Muslims from entering the United States may end uphindering (http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/12/11/3731183/how-the-world-is-reacting-to-donald-trump/)his businesses abroad. While the real estate mogul is denouncing Muslims, he is simultaneously profiting from businesses in a number of Muslim-majority countries.

In Turkey, Trump pulls in (http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/news/donald-trump-muslim-countries-business/) “royalty income of $1 million to $5 million” for lending his name to a 40-story residential tower in Istanbul. His business there might be in jeopardy though, as “on Dec. 10, caving under growing social pressure, General Manager of Trump Towers Bulent Kural issued a statement condemning Trump’s words and explaining that they are ‘evaluating different legal aspects of their relationship with the Trump brand’,” Al-Monitor reported (http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/12/turkey-usa-prepares-for-trump-presidency.html#ixzz3uJvHJcXP).

In the petroleum-rich nation of Azerbaijan, Trump Hotel is scheduled to open this year. “Trump lists income of $2.5 million for ‘management fees’ for the Trump International Hotel & Tower Baku,” according (http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/news/donald-trump-muslim-countries-business/)to CNN.

While the Trump brand is not adorning a hotel or residential tower in Egypt, “Trump owns what appear to be brand placeholder companies in a number of countries,” the Washington Postreported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/08/where-donald-trump-does-business-in-muslim-countries/). Trump’s comments on Muslims were strongly denounced (http://www.thenational.ae/world/middle-east/egypts-dar-al-iftaa-denounces-extremist-and-racist-trump-tirade)by Dar al-Iftaa, Egypt’s official religious body.

Trump doesn’t lend his name to any property in Qatar at the moment, but Qatar airways does rent an office out of the Trump Tower in Manhattan. “While details of the Qatar Airways lease were not immediately available, offices for rent in the building start at about $19,000 a month and can go above $100,000 a month,” according (http://qz.com/568178/donald-trump-owes-much-of-his-fortune-to-wea/)to Quartz.

The United Arab Emirates is the site of some of Trump’s ambitious future projects, with two golf courses set to be built (http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/news/donald-trump-muslim-countries-business/) in the glitzy, economic hub of Dubai. At least one of the developments dropped the Trump brand name on Thursday, according (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/12/10/dubai-development-drops-trump-branding/77099812/)to USA Today.

In an ironic twist of fate, the Trump Hotel Collection recently announced plans to build a development in the country with the most Muslims on the planet — Indonesia. “TRUMP HOTEL COLLECTION…has announced (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/trump-hotel-collection-announces-second-resort-in-asia-300141229.html)it will advance its vision for delivering exceptional resort offerings across the globe with a new ultra-luxury resort in Indonesia located in Lido in West Java.”

This past May, Trump’s daughter Ivanka told (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e6decf2c-9db9-11e5-8ce1-f6219b685d74.html#axzz3uJx7GCgI)Hotelier Middle East magazine that they were considering expanding into Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE’s capital city, Abu Dhabi.

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/12/14/3731762/trump-muslim-countries/

UNT Eagles 2016
12-14-2015, 08:37 PM
membership affirmed

angrydude
12-14-2015, 11:31 PM
he pays them, he's responsible for their behavior.

not for intentional torts.

boutons_deux
12-15-2015, 12:00 PM
‘Light That Motherf*cker on Fire!’: Vegas Trump Rally off the Charts as Private Guards Toss Black Activists
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/light-motherfcker-fire-vegas-trump-rally-charts-private-guards-toss-black-activist?akid=13773.187590.xy-z5k&rd=1&src=newsletter1047369&t=10

racist Trump's racist goons takin care of racist business.

Trill Clinton
12-15-2015, 12:06 PM
Whoever said trump is the human form of Internet comment sections was right.

Koolaid_Man
12-15-2015, 12:39 PM
‘Light That Motherf*cker on Fire!’: Vegas Trump Rally off the Charts as Private Guards Toss Black Activists


http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/light-motherfcker-fire-vegas-trump-rally-charts-private-guards-toss-black-activist?akid=13773.187590.xy-z5k&rd=1&src=newsletter1047369&t=10

racist Trump's racist goons takin care of racist business.




light the muthafucker nigga on fire..

676611661487190018

Ball Buster
12-15-2015, 12:56 PM
:lol Holy shit

MultiTroll
12-15-2015, 01:03 PM
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/light-motherfcker-fire-vegas-trump-rally-charts-private-guards-toss-black-activist?akid=13773.187590.xy-z5k&rd=1&src=newsletter1047369&t=10

racist Trump's racist goons takin care of racist business.
Pssshh.
From that link:
"Earlier this week, video emerged of security guards at a Trump rally in Pennsylvania throwing activist Jamila Hammami onto the ground."

:rolleyes She flopped worse then Manu Gnob. Obviously attempting to draw a foul.
Jamila Hammami:
Arab Muslimah and executive director of the Queer Detainee Empowerment Project, was a key protest organizer and accompanied the activists that interrupted Trump to a $1,000-a-head Republican fundraiser at the Park Plaza in Pennsylvania.

:lmao obviously there to stir up chit.

boutons_deux
12-16-2015, 04:12 PM
Donald Trump Has Been Fighting To Stop A Wind Farm In Scotland From Being Built. He Just Lost.



http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/12/16/3732799/trump-wind-farm-ruling/

Maybe he can license his name to go on the nacelles.

boutons_deux
12-16-2015, 05:35 PM
Speaker at Trump rally: ‘I believe he was sent from God’ to stop ‘this oppression from illegal aliens’


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/speaker-at-trump-rally-i-believe-he-was-sent-from-god-to-stop-this-oppression-from-illegal-aliens/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
12-16-2015, 05:51 PM
Joe Arpaio Reminds Everyone That Trump Questioned Obama's Birth Certificate

Maricopa County, Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio introduced Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump Wednesday at a rally by reminding everyone that they were both vocal members of the "birther" movement that questioned President Barack Obama's birth certificate.

Arpaio's comment came less than a day after the real estate mogul evaded a question about whether he thought Obama was a legitimate President.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joe-arpaio-trump-obama-birther?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

DMX7
12-16-2015, 07:09 PM
Protesters very rudely interrupt Mr. Trump and they deliberately try to make him look bad. Then they get made when they are treated rudely in return. :whine

boutons_deux
12-16-2015, 07:36 PM
Protesters very rudely interrupt Mr. Trump and they deliberately try to make him look bad. Then they get made when they are treated rudely in return. :whine

the protesters didn't rough Trump up, his goons roughed up the protesters.

RD2191
12-16-2015, 07:38 PM
Speaker at Trump rally: ‘I believe he was sent from God’ to stop ‘this oppression from illegal aliens’


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/speaker-at-trump-rally-i-believe-he-was-sent-from-god-to-stop-this-oppression-from-illegal-aliens/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Wow

DMX7
12-16-2015, 08:07 PM
the protesters didn't rough Trump up, his goons roughed up the protesters.

Rough up? Please... they were being as gently as possible. I'm surprised they didn't offer him an ice cream sundae while they were at it.

boutons_deux
12-18-2015, 04:11 PM
Trump embraces Putin's killing of journalists, opponents: 'He's running his country' (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/18/1461435/-Trump-embraces-Putin-s-killing-of-journalists-He-s-running-his-country)

"Sure, when people call you 'brilliant' it's always good. Especially when the person heads up Russia," Trump told cohost Mika Brzezinski when asked about Putin praising him as "very talented" the day before (http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-2015-12).

Scarborough pointed to Putin's status as a notorious strongman.

"Well, I mean, it's also a person who kills journalists, political opponents, and invades countries. Obviously that would be a concern, would it not?" Scarborough asked.
"He's running his country, and at least he's a leader," Trump replied. "Unlike what we have in this country."

Trump finally conceded that all was not right with Putin when Scarborough backed him into a corner, saying, "you obviously condemn Vladimir Putin killing journalists and political opponents, right?"


"Oh sure, absolutely," Trump said.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/18/1461435/-Trump-embraces-Putin-s-killing-of-journalists-He-s-running-his-country?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

FuzzyLumpkins
12-18-2015, 04:48 PM
http://static2.politico.com/dims4/default/668e791/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F0d%2F2c%2F 4a029ce5423b8602908dc8eaf191%2F6-matt-davies-universal-uclick-and-newsday.jpg

boutons_deux
12-20-2015, 09:49 AM
I win, I'm very rich, and I hire the best people

Trump spokesperson: Why bother having nuclear weapons if you’re afraid to use them?


http://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/tof_pierson_oreilly-800x430.jpg

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/trump-spokesperson-why-bother-having-nuclear-weapons-if-youre-afraid-to-use-them/

Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-20-2015, 04:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/IqVU7qy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LkHG39N.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Yh6k2SD.jpg

angrydude
12-20-2015, 09:59 PM
Trump is going to be President for two simple reasons: he has one liners and confidence.

Hillary has the charisma of a dead cat.

The irony is he is the perfect candidate for the cable news cycle, yet cable news hates him.

FuzzyLumpkins
12-20-2015, 10:22 PM
Trump is going to be President for two simple reasons: he has one liners and confidence.

Hillary has the charisma of a dead cat.

The irony is he is the perfect candidate for the cable news cycle, yet cable news hates him.

Trump is appealing to the LCD who on average don't vote. He's an womanizing, oligarch and the perfect figurehead for the GOP too. His tabloid material would be held up Willie Horton style comparing it to various foreign and domestic policy issues.

Just the type of thing to scare off independents to Hillary. He's a terrible candidate for the general.

boutons_deux
12-21-2015, 09:07 AM
http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/danzcolorplus6543-668x501.jpg

WHITE gloves, of course

boutons_deux
12-21-2015, 02:37 PM
http://images.dailykos.com/images/186328/story_image/12-13-mcfadden-KOS.png?1450116047

boutons_deux
12-21-2015, 03:39 PM
The Donald and the Decider

After all, the antiestablishment candidates now dominating the field, aside from being deeply ignorant about policy, have a habit of making false claims (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-some-lie-more-than-others.html), then refusing to acknowledge error. Why don’t Republican voters seem to care?

Well, part of the answer has to be that the party taught them not to care.

Bluster and belligerence as substitutes for analysis,

disdain for any kind of measured response,

dismissal of inconvenient facts reported by the “liberal media” didn’t suddenly arrive on the Republican scene last summer.

On the contrary, they have long been key elements of the party brand. So how are voters supposed to know where to draw the line?

Let’s talk first about the legacy of He Who Must Not Be Named.

I don’t know how many readers remember the 2000 election, but during the campaign Republicans tried — largely successfully — to make the election about likability, not policy. George W. Bush was supposed to get your vote because he was someone you’d enjoy having a beer with, unlike that stiff, boring guy Al Gore with all his facts and figures.

And when Mr. Gore tried to talk about policy differences, Mr. Bush responded not on the substance but by mocking his opponent’s “fuzzy math” — a phrase gleefully picked up by his supporters. The press corps played right along with this deliberate dumbing-down: Mr. Gore was deemed to have lost debates, not because he was wrong, but because he was, reporters declared, snooty and superior, unlike the affably dishonest W.

Then came 9/11, and the affable guy was repackaged as a war leader. But the repackaging was never framed in terms of substantive arguments over foreign policy. Instead, Mr. Bush and his handlers sold swagger. He was the man you could trust to keep us safe because he talked tough and dressed up as a fighter pilot. He proudly declared that he was the “decider” — and that he made his decisions based on his “gut.”

The subtext was that real leaders don’t waste time on hard thinking, that listening to experts is a sign of weakness, that attitude is all you need.

And while Mr. Bush’s debacles in Iraq and New Orleans eventually ended America’s faith in his personal gut, the elevation of attitude over analysis only tightened its grip on his party, an evolution highlighted when John McCain, who once upon a time had a reputation for policy independence, chose the eminently unqualified Sarah Palin as his running mate.

So Donald Trump as a political phenomenon is very much in a line of succession that runs from W. through Mrs. Palin, and in many ways he’s entirely representative of the Republican mainstream. For example, were you shocked when Mr. Trump revealed his admiration for Vladimir Putin (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/18/donald-trump-returns-vladimir-putins-admiration-looking-past-his-darker-side/)? He was only articulating a feeling that was already widespread in his party (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2014_12/why_republicans_admire_putin053401.php).

Meanwhile, what do the establishment candidates have to offer as an alternative? On policy substance, not much. Remember, back when he was the presumed front-runner, Jeb Bush assembled a team (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/02/18/jeb-bushs-foreign-policy-team-is-eerily-familiar-in-1-venn-diagram/) of foreign-policy “experts,” people who had academic credentials and chairs at right-wing think tanks. But the team was dominated by neoconservative hard-liners, people committed, despite past failures, to the belief that shock and awe solve all problems.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/21/opinion/the-donald-and-the-decider.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0#story-continues-6)In other words, Mr. Bush wasn’t articulating a notably different policy than what we’re now hearing from Trump et al; all he offered was belligerence with a thin veneer of respectability.

Marco Rubio, who has succeeded him as the establishment favorite, is much the same, with a few added evasions (https://newrepublic.com/article/123406/how-marco-rubio-became-gops-foreign-policy-candidate). Why should anyone be surprised to see this posturing, er, trumped by the unapologetic belligerence offered by nonestablishment candidates?

In case you’re wondering, nothing like this process has happened on the Democratic side. When Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders debate, say, financial regulation, it’s a real discussion, with both candidates evidently well informed about the issues.

American political discourse as a whole hasn’t been dumbed down, just its conservative wing.

Going back to Republicans, does this mean that Mr. Trump will actually be the nominee? I have no idea. But it’s important to realize that he isn’t someone who suddenly intruded into Republican politics from an alternative universe. He, or someone like him, is where the party has been headed for a long time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/21/opinion/the-donald-and-the-decider.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

The dumbness started with St Ronnie The Diseased Hollywood Con Man Faker Useful Idiot. Eventually even his WH staff knew his disease had dumbed him down and were thinking about succession.

boutons_deux
12-21-2015, 10:49 PM
Footage from Trump’s appearance in Grand Rapids, Michigan, shows him discussing her 2008 Democratic primary loss to then-Sen. Barack Obama and saying, “She was going to beat Obama.

I don’t know who’d be worse. I don’t know. How does it get worse? She was favored to win and she got schlonged. She lost. She lost.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/trump-makes-crude-reference-to-male-genitalia-in-speech-attacking-hillary-clinton/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

DMX7
12-22-2015, 12:01 AM
I don’t know who’d be worse. I don’t know. How does it get worse? She was favored to win and she got schlonged. She lost. She lost.”



:lol

boutons_deux
12-22-2015, 06:22 AM
How Donald Trump is breathing life into America's dying white supremacist movement

Making friends is no easy task for modern white nationalists.In an era of gay marriage and a black president, more than a half-century after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 became law, separatists can't exactly swan dive into conversations with strangers about the white-power cause.

But Rachel Pendergraft - the national organizer for the Knights Party, a standard-bearer for the Ku Klux Klan - told The Washington Post that the KKK, for one, has a new conversation starter at its disposal.

You might call it a "Trump (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/business/construction/donald-trump-PEBSL000163-topic.html) card."

It involves, say, walking into a coffee shop or sitting on a train while carrying a newspaper with a Donald Trump headline. The Republican presidential candidate, Pendergraft told The Post, has become a great outreach tool, providing separatists with an easy way to start a conversation about issues that are important to the dying white supremacist movement.

"One of the things that our organization really stresses with our membership is we want them to educate themselves on issues, but we also want them to be able to learn how to open up a conversation with other people," Pendergraft said.

For large numbers of Americans, Trump's rhetoric surrounding immigration, minority groups and crime may sound like finely tuned retrograde vitriol. But for Pendergraft and a growing number of white nationalists flocking to the campaign's circus-like tent, the billionaire sounds familiar, like a man fluent in the native tongue of disaffected whites.

It's a language people such as Pendergraft never thought they'd hear a mainstream politician in either party use in public.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-donald-trump-white-supremacist-movement-20151221-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-donald-trump-white-supremacist-movement-20151221-story.html)

boutons_deux
12-22-2015, 06:54 AM
Armed police raid offices of Putin critic Mikhail Khodorkovsky in Moscow


http://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20151222&t=2&i=1104144624&w=644&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXMPEBBL0MZ

Armed Russian police on Tuesday raided the offices of a pro-democracy movement founded by outspoken Kremlin critic Mikhail Khodorkovsky, less than two weeks after investigators accused him of organizing a contract killing.

Khodorkovsky's Open Russia movement said police had also searched some of its employees' apartments in Moscow and St Petersburg and had taken away documents.

Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for Russia's Investigative Committee, was quoted by the Interfax news agency as saying the raids were related to a legal case first launched in 2003 against Khodorkovsky and his allies relating to what the state regarded as the illegal privatization of a mining and fertilizer company called Apatit.

Khodorkovsky, 52, once Russia's richest man thanks to his then control of the Yukos oil company, likened the raids to repression in the Soviet era, suggesting they were linked to critical comments he had made about President Vladimir Putin.

"The decay had entered its final stage," Khodorkovsky told the Ekho Moskvy radio station. ""We are all familiar with this from the time of (Soviet leader Leonid) Brezhnev."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-khodorkovsky-idUSKBN0U517R20151222?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

boutons_deux
12-22-2015, 12:27 PM
Tough guy Trump backs down to conservative talk radio hosts (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/21/1462409/-Tough-guy-Trump-backs-down-to-conservative-talk-radio-hosts)

What made Donald Trump back off his description of Ted Cruz as a “maniac”? The same thing (http://crooksandliars.com/2015/12/donald-trump-admits-conservative-talk) that’s made many other more traditional Republican politicians back off from their own positions: powerful right-wing radio hosts. John Amato flags Trump’s explanation:

Kurtz: But after the maniac comment, two powerful voices in radio, Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin, generally been supportive of you...

Trump: Two great guys..

Kurtz: Yea, said, criticized you for taking on Cruz. Did that make you rethink it a little?

Trump: Well, I like those two people. They've been very supportive and it did. It made me think about it a little bit because Mark and Rush have been so nice to me and, and I did think about it a little bit.


Mr. Tough Guy, there, who loves to talk about how only he could take on ISIS and be a strong leader who’d make the world cower before the United States and so on.

But Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh can make him cuddle up to a competitor he thinks is a maniac.

Boy, that kind of strong stance should have ISIS running scared (while playing videos of Trump as recruiting tools).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/21/1462409/-Tough-guy-Trump-backs-down-to-conservative-talk-radio-hosts?detail=email

Donny T is a Wizard of Oz bully, hiding behind the curtain of his $Bs, promoting his brand, until he gets SCHLONGED in Nov 2016.

rmt
12-22-2015, 01:52 PM
Tough guy Trump backs down to conservative talk radio hosts (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/21/1462409/-Tough-guy-Trump-backs-down-to-conservative-talk-radio-hosts)

What made Donald Trump back off his description of Ted Cruz as a “maniac”? The same thing (http://crooksandliars.com/2015/12/donald-trump-admits-conservative-talk) that’s made many other more traditional Republican politicians back off from their own positions: powerful right-wing radio hosts. John Amato flags Trump’s explanation:

Kurtz: But after the maniac comment, two powerful voices in radio, Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin, generally been supportive of you...

Trump: Two great guys..

Kurtz: Yea, said, criticized you for taking on Cruz. Did that make you rethink it a little?

Trump: Well, I like those two people. They've been very supportive and it did. It made me think about it a little bit because Mark and Rush have been so nice to me and, and I did think about it a little bit.


Mr. Tough Guy, there, who loves to talk about how only he could take on ISIS and be a strong leader who’d make the world cower before the United States and so on.

But Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh can make him cuddle up to a competitor he thinks is a maniac.

Boy, that kind of strong stance should have ISIS running scared (while playing videos of Trump as recruiting tools).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/21/1462409/-Tough-guy-Trump-backs-down-to-conservative-talk-radio-hosts?detail=email

Donny T is a Wizard of Oz bully, hiding behind the curtain of his $Bs, promoting his brand, until he gets SCHLONGED in Nov 2016.





Trump already backed down on Cruz during the GOP debate. I'll bet that if Trump wins the nomination, Cruz will be on the ticket.

boutons_deux
12-22-2015, 02:07 PM
Trump already backed down on Cruz during the GOP debate. I'll bet that if Trump wins the nomination, Cruz will be on the ticket.

yep, Cruz as veep.

I don't think Trump would accept to be veep candidate, he only WINS, and veeping ain't winning

rmt
12-22-2015, 02:19 PM
yep, Cruz as veep.

I don't think Trump would accept to be veep candidate, he only WINS, and veeping ain't winning

agreed. Trump's ego couldn't take losing and being VP.

boutons_deux
12-22-2015, 02:48 PM
Trump-loving conservative calls for armed raids of ‘demonic’ yoga studios to ‘Christianize the land


http://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Theodore-Shoebat-YouTube-800x430.png


An anti-gay extremist who has pledged his support for Donald Trump denied that he was anything like Islamic State militants — and to prove it, he called for armed raids of yoga studios to “Christianize the land.”Theodore Shoebat, a right-wing video blogger who appeared in an anti-LGBT film (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/activist-linked-to-mike-huckabee-and-rand-paul-calls-for-death-to-gays-and-their-christian-supporters/) with Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee, fantasized in a recent post about the wrathful judgment he would unleash on the world’s Hindus should he somehow be declared dictator, reported Right Wing Watch (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/theodore-shoebat-wants-government-send-swat-teams-shut-down-yoga-studios).

Shoebat, the son of fraudulent “terror expert” Walid Shoebat (http://www.rawstory.com/2011/07/cnn-exposes-terror-expert-as-a-fraud/), complained that he is often compared to ISIS because he calls for the killing of gays and others who refuse to convert to Christianity.
He wished earlier this month (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/trump-supporter-looks-forward-to-christian-supremacist-society-where-muslims-will-be-put-to-death/) for a Trump administration that would execute Muslims who didn’t convert.

“We need a Christian supremacist society or else these things are going to continue to happen,” Shoebat said of a Muslim judge sworn in on the Koran instead of a Bible. “God willing, if Donald Trump wins, and I think he will win, he will put a cap on things like this.”

He turned his attention this week to the more than 1 billion Hindus living in India.

“You need to Christianize the land,” Shoebat said. “We need to destroy these false religions, end of story. Hinduism is an evil, demonic, anti-Christ religion. It needs to be uprooted from the earth and it has no place in the world.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/trump-loving-conservative-calls-for-armed-raids-of-demonic-yoga-studios-to-christianize-the-land/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

all y'alls rightwingnut Christian supremacist Taliban politicians attract like-thinking assholes

boutons_deux
12-22-2015, 03:09 PM
Trump Superfan Arrested for Plotting to Bomb Muslims


The Donald's toxic vitriol may have led to another potential hate crime
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/trump-superfan-arrested-plotting-bomb-muslims?akid=13799.187590.HkIYC5&rd=1&src=newsletter1047793&t=8

SnakeBoy
12-22-2015, 05:46 PM
I'm enjoying listening to talking heads (even conservatives on Fox) acting like they are offended that Trump said Hillary "got schlonged" in '08. Even on Fox they bleep "schlonged".

Trump says plenty of stupid shit that has no basis in reality but it is undeniable that Obama fucked Hillary in '08.

FuzzyLumpkins
12-22-2015, 06:43 PM
I'm enjoying listening to talking heads (even conservatives on Fox) acting like they are offended that Trump said Hillary "got schlonged" in '08. Even on Fox they bleep "schlonged".

Trump says plenty of stupid shit that has no basis in reality but it is undeniable that Obama fucked Hillary in '08.

You and Trump share the same brain. How cute.

boutons_deux
12-22-2015, 08:22 PM
Analysis of Donald Trump Tax Plan Sees a Boon for Wealthy and Trillions in Debt (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/22/analysis-of-donald-trump-tax-plan-sees-a-boon-for-wealthy-and-trillions-in-debt/)

Donald J. Trump’s tax plan would benefit the wealthiest Americans the most while saddling the economy with trillions of dollars in new debt, according to an analysis (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=2000560) released on Tuesday by the Tax Policy Center.

Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential candidate who is leading most polls,released his plan in September (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/28/donald-trump-unveils-plan-to-overhaul-tax-code-with-broad-cuts/) after vowing to crack down on loopholes that benefit rich hedge fund and private equity managers, while eliminating provisions that encourage companies to park their cash in overseas tax havens.

The proposal would cut the top tax rate to 25 percent from 39.6 percent, and bring down the corporate tax rate to 15 percent from 35 percent. It would also end federal income taxes on individuals making less than $25,000 and married couples who file their taxes jointly earning less than $50,000.

Despite the populist tone of his campaign, Mr. Trump’s plan appears to open new loopholes that would allow the well-off to shave their tax bills and could debilitate the economy as lawmakers look for requisite spending cuts. According to analysts at the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, the cuts would mean nearly $25 trillion in lost government revenue over the next 20 years, and swell the ratio of debt to gross domestic product from about 74 percent to 180 percent.

“The revenue losses from this plan are really enormous,” Len Burman, director of the Tax Policy Center (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/index.cfm), said on a conference call before releasing the report. “Basically it would negate all the economic benefits if we were running deficits anywhere near as large as we’re projecting here.”

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/22/analysis-of-donald-trump-tax-plan-sees-a-boon-for-wealthy-and-trillions-in-debt/

Reck
12-22-2015, 08:26 PM
I finished watching The Man in The High Castle the other day and I figured that's exactly how the USA would look under a Trump presidency.

Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-22-2015, 10:44 PM
lol tshlong Trump is the guest candidate in the race

SnakeBoy
12-23-2015, 12:35 AM
I finished watching The Man in The High Castle the other day and I figured that's exactly how the USA would look under a Trump presidency.

You think Trump is a Nazi? I thought Obama was the fascist that replaced the previous fascist Dubya.

It sucks how no matter who America picks to be POTUS they're always a secret Nazi.

Reck
12-23-2015, 12:47 AM
You think Trump is a Nazi? I thought Obama was the fascist that replaced the previous fascist Dubya.

It sucks how no matter who America picks to be POTUS they're always a secret Nazi.

Trump is being a nasty, shameless POS.

He's short of being a dictictor imo with all the shit he says/wants to do.

It's not hard to draw up those conclusions.

FuzzyLumpkins
12-23-2015, 12:53 AM
You think Trump is a Nazi? I thought Obama was the fascist that replaced the previous fascist Dubya.

It sucks how no matter who America picks to be POTUS they're always a secret Nazi.


Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.

Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

“I don’t remember,” I said.

“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)

Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

Is Ivana trying to convince her friends and lawyer that Trump is a crypto-Nazi? Trump is no reader or history buff. Perhaps his possession of Hitler’s speeches merely indicates an interest in Hitler’s genius at propaganda. The Führer often described his defeats at Stalingrad and in North Africa as great victories. Trump continues to endow his diminishing world with significance as well. “There’s nobody that has the cash flow that I have,” he told The Wall Street Journal long after he knew better. “I want to be king of cash.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2015/07/donald-ivana-trump-divorce-prenup-marie-brenner

FuzzyLumpkins
12-23-2015, 12:55 AM
Can you imagine the shit storm that would erupt if the world learned that Obama slept with a copy of the Quran by his bed at some point?

admiralsnackbar
12-23-2015, 03:20 AM
Curious if pro-Trump people find Putin's endorsement objectionable. What do yáll make of it?

boutons_deux
12-23-2015, 10:51 AM
Donald Trump got viciously personal in his attacks on Hillary Clinton

"I haven't started with Hillary yet," Trump said.

"What happened to her? I'm watching the debate and she disappeared. Where did she go?! Where did she go?! I thought she quit! I thought she gave up! Where did she go? Where did Hillary go?

They had to start the debate without her.

Phase two. I know where she went. It's disgusting. I don't want to talk about it. No, it's too disgusting. Don't say it. It's disgusting."

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bathroom-break-2015-12

Hey, all y'all Trump fellators, Donny T has proved himself to be a classless, trashy, piece of shit.

boutons_deux
12-24-2015, 01:59 PM
Trump warns Clinton to be careful in using woman ‘card’

“Be careful Hillary as you play the war on women or women being degraded card,” Trump said in a Twitter post on Wednesday.

Trump has been criticized for calling women fat pigs, dogs and slobs and in August his comments about Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly were widely interpreted as referring to her menstrual cycle.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/trump-warns-clinton-to-be-careful-in-using-woman-card/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

tlongII
12-24-2015, 02:56 PM
Go Trump Go!

boutons_deux
12-24-2015, 04:39 PM
http://www.truthdig.com/images/made/images/cartoonuploads/[email protected]

rmt
12-25-2015, 01:04 AM
Trump warns Clinton to be careful in using woman ‘card’

“Be careful Hillary as you play the war on women or women being degraded card,” Trump said in a Twitter post on Wednesday.

Trump has been criticized for calling women fat pigs, dogs and slobs and in August his comments about Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly were widely interpreted as referring to her menstrual cycle.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/trump-warns-clinton-to-be-careful-in-using-woman-card/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29




Hillary does have to be careful using the gender card. Can't be seen as the victim in this time of ISIS when perceived strength is wanted.

Winehole23
12-26-2015, 10:49 AM
If Hilary responds to sexist commentary, she's playing the gender card and it makes her look weak?

boutons_deux
12-26-2015, 11:26 AM
Hillary does have to be careful using the gender card. Can't be seen as the victim in this time of ISIS when perceived strength is wanted.

Trump is the woman-demeaning, sexist-card asshole.

CosmicCowboy
12-26-2015, 12:00 PM
Hillary was a willing accomplice in Bills attempts to destroy the women who accused him of being a sexual predator.

Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-26-2015, 12:26 PM
Hillary was a willing accomplice in Bills attempts to destroy the women who accused him of being a sexual predator.

She defended a few child sex predators in her days as a lawyer too

Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-26-2015, 12:34 PM
This is one Mexican that does not want to BUILD WALL

http://i.imgur.com/8Mvmdlg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/GoZl8Hb.jpg

boutons_deux
12-26-2015, 12:58 PM
Hillary was a willing accomplice in Bills attempts to destroy the women who accused him of being a sexual predator.

You voting for Trump?

CosmicCowboy
12-26-2015, 01:03 PM
No but he has a point. Hillary is the last one to "defend women".

boutons_deux
12-26-2015, 01:06 PM
No but he has a point. Hillary is the last one to "defend women".

maybe so, she is far from perfect, but she's TONS superior to any of your Repug Klowns.

Hillary will also get 70%+ of the wimmen vote. Trump doesn't even have to wonder about her "bleeding from wherever"

Reck
12-27-2015, 06:12 PM
No but he has a point. Hillary is the last one to "defend women".

Trump should run the other way whenever the women issue is raise. He doesn't have a clean record with women. His sexism and superiority complex against women goes back decades.

boutons_deux
12-29-2015, 10:46 AM
Kristol is ALWAYS WRONG, but anyway...

GOP’s Kristol: ‘Semi-serious’ talk about a third-party initiative

Bill Kristol, “a member of the Republican firmament (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/28/bill-kristol-is-semi-serious-about-launching-a-new-third-party-thats-a-bad-idea/),” took this sentiment to Twitter last week, asking (https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/678581773832470528) what to name the new political party insiders will have to create if Trump is the Republican nominee.

ABC News asked (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bill-kristol-donald-trump-mystique-disappear-iowa-loss/story?id=35945758) Kristol if he was serious.


ABC: Would you leave the Republican Party if he does win the nomination?

KRISTOL: I was semi-serious. I don’t think Trump will be the nominee, so I don’t expect it to be an issue. But since I don’t think I could support Trump, and I’d like to have someone to vote for, if Trump were to be the nominee, I’d be open to a new party, probably for 2016 only – but you never know.



Note, the Weekly Standard editor wasn’t predicting the creation of a separate Republican Party to take on a possible Trump-led ticket, which is important – because everything Kristol predicts is invariably (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/how-does-he-keep-getting-a-platform-bill-kristols-history-of-terrible-predictions-and-bad-advice/)proven wrong.

Rather, this was a GOP insider kicking around the idea – in public, on the record, more than once – of leaving his party, temporarily, in order to take on the Republican nominee, in the event Trump prevails in the primary process.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gops-kristol-semi-serious-talk-about-third-party-initiative?cid=sm_fb_maddow

There have been a few other Repugs who said they wouldn't support Trump as nominee.

And Congressmen in competitive races next year are very nervous.

boutons_deux
12-29-2015, 12:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN1HKMyJAro

Clipper Nation
12-29-2015, 12:51 PM
681881143420030977

First female president :worthy:

DMX7
12-30-2015, 01:20 PM
681881143420030977

First female president :worthy:

If she weren't Donald Trump's daughter, he would consider dating her. What an endorsement!

DMX7
12-30-2015, 01:21 PM
Kristol is ALWAYS WRONG, but anyway...

GOP’s Kristol: ‘Semi-serious’ talk about a third-party initiative

Bill Kristol, “a member of the Republican firmament (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/28/bill-kristol-is-semi-serious-about-launching-a-new-third-party-thats-a-bad-idea/),” took this sentiment to Twitter last week, asking (https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/678581773832470528) what to name the new political party insiders will have to create if Trump is the Republican nominee.

ABC News asked (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bill-kristol-donald-trump-mystique-disappear-iowa-loss/story?id=35945758) Kristol if he was serious.


ABC: Would you leave the Republican Party if he does win the nomination?

KRISTOL: I was semi-serious. I don’t think Trump will be the nominee, so I don’t expect it to be an issue. But since I don’t think I could support Trump, and I’d like to have someone to vote for, if Trump were to be the nominee, I’d be open to a new party, probably for 2016 only – but you never know.



Note, the Weekly Standard editor wasn’t predicting the creation of a separate Republican Party to take on a possible Trump-led ticket, which is important – because everything Kristol predicts is invariably (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/how-does-he-keep-getting-a-platform-bill-kristols-history-of-terrible-predictions-and-bad-advice/)proven wrong.

Rather, this was a GOP insider kicking around the idea – in public, on the record, more than once – of leaving his party, temporarily, in order to take on the Republican nominee, in the event Trump prevails in the primary process.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gops-kristol-semi-serious-talk-about-third-party-initiative?cid=sm_fb_maddow

There have been a few other Repugs who said they wouldn't support Trump as nominee.

And Congressmen in competitive races next year are very nervous.



He is ALWAYS wrong. Trump will be the nominee and the republicans will most likely fall in line and support him.

CosmicCowboy
12-30-2015, 01:39 PM
Hillary = Rubio

not much difference.

Funny how worked up Boo gets about this.

boutons_deux
12-30-2015, 02:28 PM
Hillary = Rubio

not much difference.

Funny how worked up Boo gets about this.

Rubio has made lots of enemies in Congress, see the Rubio thread. He's a joke about his attendance to Senate work, not paying his dues, not playing ball with the establishment.

The Great Boutons doesn't get worked up, he bitch slaps.

Winehole23
12-30-2015, 02:28 PM
Hillary = Rubio

not much difference.

Funny how worked up Boo gets about this.what are the differences between the two? does it matter which party gets elected?

your habit of throwing scorn on Dems and defending Republicans reflexively seems to indicate you do see a difference.

boutons_deux
12-30-2015, 02:34 PM
Donald Trump warns his supporters: ‘No more golf’ if Bernie Sanders wins

Electing Bernie Sanders as president would lead to the end of golfing in the United States, according to Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.“We have to be progressive in our thinking,” Trump said during a campaign rally in Hilton Head, South Carolina. “When I say progressive I mean like smart. I’m not talking progressive like a Bernie Sanders would say.”

“This guy wants to tax you — think of it — this guy wants to raise your taxes to 90 percent,” he continued. “No, no, think. You’ll have to move out — I love this area by the way, I’ve been here many times. Great golfing area, right? We love it. No more golf — no more golf. You won’t have any golf any more. You won’t have any money left to be golfing.”

It’s not the first time Trump has accused Sanders of wanting to raise taxes to 90 percent — a claim that PolitiFact has rated (http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2015/oct/20/donald-trump/trump-bernie-sanders-wants-tax-everyone-90-percent/) as “Pants on Fire” in October.

The fact-checking websitesaid “Sanders has never explicitly proposed a 90 percent tax rate for billionaires, let alone applying that rate across the board.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/donald-trump-warns-his-supporters-no-more-golf-if-bernie-sanders-wins/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

DMX7
12-30-2015, 02:36 PM
Facts are not important, beau, feelings are. It feels like we're going to get taxed at 90%. And even though I'm not a billionaire, I feel like I'm close to getting there and these rates could affect me some how. I don't want to feel that. It's too much.

boutons_deux
12-30-2015, 02:37 PM
Donny Turd keeping the hate, Islamophobia, paranoia, LIES front and center

Trump on American Muslims: 'Wonderful people, but there's something going on there' (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/30/1464533/-Trump-on-American-Muslims-Wonderful-people-but-there-s-something-going-on-there)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/30/1464533/-Trump-on-American-Muslims-Wonderful-people-but-there-s-something-going-on-there?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

DMX7
12-30-2015, 02:39 PM
I LOVE how he talks in extremely ominous and vague generalizations... "something is going on"... "people are saying bad things are happening". :lol

CosmicCowboy
12-30-2015, 02:40 PM
Technically Bernie gave a range of 50%-90% with his (so far unspoken) choice somewhere between the two.

DMX7
12-30-2015, 02:42 PM
Technically Bernie gave a range of 50%-90% with his (so far unspoken) choice somewhere between the two.

Of course Congress determines the tax rates, and so nothing material is going to change... even a slight super majority of democrats in congress couldn't guarantee that.

CosmicCowboy
12-30-2015, 02:46 PM
Facts are not important, beau, feelings are. It feels like we're going to get taxed at 90%. And even though I'm not a billionaire, I feel like I'm close to getting there and these rates could affect me some how. I don't want to feel that. It's too much.

Hell, 40% is too fucking high. It sucks to take risks and work your ass off and have to give half to the government when you do make some money. I sure as hell don't think I'm getting my moneys worth. Only jealous loser bitches like Boo want to screw people that make more than they do.

boutons_deux
12-30-2015, 05:00 PM
WorldNetDaily Names Trump 'Man Of The Year,' Compares Him To Founding Fathers :lol

Yesterday, we noted (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trump-speak-event-honoring-birther-publisher-joseph-farah) that Donald Trump will be delivering the keynote address in March at an event honoring WorldNetDaily founder and editor Joseph Farah, who has been a leader in driving birther conspiracy theories about President Obama. Today, WND returns the favor, naming Trump its “ Man of the Year (http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/man-of-the-year-donald-trump/).”

(President Obama already took the “Muslim of the Year (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/larry-klayman-names-obama-2015-muslim-year)” honor from WND columnist Larry Klayman.)
Trump told WND that the recognition was an “honor” and that he appreciates the publication’s “informative polls and coverage.” (We’ve compiled some highlights of that “coverage” here (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ten-most-absurd-stories-santorum-worldnetdaily).)

From WND:

They treated his campaign announcement as a joke. They tried to destroy his business. They called him every foul name they could come up with. But at the end of 2015, the biased journalists, political consultants, leftist activists, snarky comedians and embittered critics of every stripe had to concede one man had beaten them all.
Donald J. Trump is the Republican favorite for president of the United States. There’s no indication he’ll fall from the top spot any time soon. And he’s the WND 2015 Man of the Year.

“It is my great honor to be named Man of the Year by your publication,” Trump said in a statement to WND. “I very much appreciate your informative polls and coverage. Together, we will Make America Great Again.”


WND specifically praised Trump for having “changed the accepted history of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks by forcing the media to report Muslim celebrations in the United States that day.” In fact, the media has repeatedly (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trump-campaign-manager-police-witnessed-new-jersey-911-celebrations) debunked (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/donald-trump-campaign-repeats-lie-thousands-partied-911) Trump’s claim (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/donald-trump-claims-thousands-and-thousands-muslim-americans-celebrated-911-finds-only-two)that he saw “thousands and thousands” of American Muslims celebrating the 9/11 attacks in New Jersey.

“Has any personality ever dominated the news more than Donald Trump did in 2015?” asked WND Editor and CEO Joseph Farah. “I don’t think I’ve seen it in my lifetime. That’s why there can be no question about who 2015′s Man of the Year is – at least not if we’re being honest. He didn’t just change the debate, he became the debate. And there doesn’t seem to be any let-up in sight as we move into the presidential election year of 2016.”

As Farah observed, Trump has done what almost no other conservative has ever been able to accomplish by repeatedly forcing the mainstream media to back down. As he repeatedly brags, Trump turned immigration into a central issue in the Republican primary. Trump shifted the national conversation on terrorism by calling for a ban on Muslim immigration. He even changed the accepted history of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks by forcing the media to report Muslim celebrations in the United States that day.


WND even throws in some positive words for Trump from its chief birther correspondent Jerome Corsi (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/05/31/jerome-corsis-wheres-the-birth-certificate-why-birthers-wont-die.html), who, in addition to his crusade to prove that the president is lying about his birthplace, also thinks that Obama wears a ring from a secret marriage to his male Pakistani roommate (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jerome-corsi-obama-altered-his-muslim-wedding-ring). Corsi declares that Trump is “one of those rare people who appear in U.S. history as the right guy for the times” and that if he had lived during the American Revolution, he would have been “leading the Boston Tea Party and joining Sam Adams and Thomas Paine” in forming a new nation.

WND Senior Staff Writer and longtime political observer Jerome Corsi says Trump is the “real deal.”

He told WND: “Despite how much the Obama/Clinton leftists in the Democratic Party and the D.C. establishment leadership of the GOP hate Trump, he is not going away, he is not going to drop out, and he is positioned to win the GOP nomination and the White House despite all odds.”

Corsi believes Donald Trump is “one of those rare people who appear in U.S. history as the right guy for the times.”

“If these were the days of the American Revolution,” Corsi said, “Trump would be leading the Boston Tea Party and joining Sam Adams and Thomas Paine in carving the political room for a rebirth of the type of constitutional freedom our Founding Fathers had envisioned for the American Republic.”

Today’s challenge, Corsi stated, is political correctness. And Donald Trump is just the man to destroy it.

“Trump will succeed precisely because he is politically incorrect, because he dares to say what most Americans are thinking,” Corsi argued. “Calling Trump sexist, racist, and every phobe the leftist intolerant political ideologies can generate only boosts his popularity, as the mainstream media lose their power to control the news by calling their enemies a nasty name. He’s rising in the polls because he defies the politically correct rules ordained by pundits and exposes leftists – including those at Fox News – for what they are.”

Corsi, author of “What Went Wrong: Inside the GOP Debacle of 2012 and How It Can Be Avoided Next Time,” also says pundits are underestimating Trump’s chances to win both the primary and the general election.

“Trump will attract votes from women, Hispanics, and African-Americans,” Corsi predicted. “He has done more to improve the economic status of minorities in America than all the other candidates combined – in both the GOP and among the Democrats.”



http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/worldnetdaily-names-trump-man-year-compares-him-founding-fathers

KKK, Aryan nation, WND, Farah, Corsi, etc, etc. Donny T is really racking up the racist, xenophobic, nativist, white supremacist asshole endorsemements.

boutons_deux
12-30-2015, 05:15 PM
Taibbi destroying Trump

In the Year of Trump, the Joke Was On Us

How the campaign's biggest laugh turned ugly in 2015

But things turned ugly less than 45 minutes into his run. In his announcement (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-defends-calling-mexican-immigrants-rapists/), Trump told the world that Mexican immigrants were "rapists" who needed to be stopped. Then, in an interview with CNN's Don Lemon, he doubled down on the remark instead of recanting. "Well, somebody's doing the raping," he seethed. A week later, Mexicans, to Trump, were not just rapists but "rapists and killers," and he was now adding a proposal to build a giant wall (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-i-would-force-mexico-build-border-wall) across the Mexican border to stop the Army of Darkness-style invading rape-murder horde. The wall would be "tall" and building it would be "easy, (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-on-the-us-mexico-border-building-a-wall-is-easy/2015/07/16/9a619668-2b0c-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html)" he said, adding that he would get Mexico to pay for it, because he knew the "art of negotiating" and wasn't a "clown."

The ancient report that he used to keep a book of Hitler's speeches by his bedside (http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/donald-trump-marie-brenner-ivana-divorce) notwithstanding, it's very likely that Donald Trump never in his life thought seriously about things like nativism, fascism, eugenics, or any kind of ideology at all. This was not someone who likely ever dreamed of cattle cars and rivers of blood. Trump is a narcissist, not a demagogue; his pathology is himself, not politics.

But shortly after Trump jumped into the race, he stumbled onto a secret: whenever he blurted out forbidden thoughts about race, ethnicity or gender, he was showered with the attention he always craved.

A sizable portion of the country seemed appalled at the things he said. But at the sametime he was suddenly attracting huge and adoring crowds at down-home sites like Bluffton, South Carolina (http://www.bustle.com/articles/98802-8-incredibly-bizarre-donald-trump-moments-from-his-south-carolina-rally-that-will-leave-you-asking) and Mobile, Alabama (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/21/politics/donald-trump-rally-mobile-alabama/index.html), pretty much the last places you'd ever expect the Trump brand to take off.

But the rabble — white, working-class, rural, despising exactly those big-city elites who live in Trump's buildings — turned out to be Trump's base. They're the people who hooted and hollered every time he said something off-color about Muslims or Mexicans or Asians ("We (http://blog.angryasianman.com/2015/08/donald-trump-mocks-asians-in-campaign.html)wantdeal (http://blog.angryasianman.com/2015/08/donald-trump-mocks-asians-in-campaign.html)! (http://blog.angryasianman.com/2015/08/donald-trump-mocks-asians-in-campaign.html)" Trump snickered earlier this year, in a Chinese-waiter voice) or "the blacks."

White America has been talking about race in code for more than half a century. You can trace the practice back to Barry Goldwater's 1964 acceptance speech, when he talked about "law and order" and the need to restrain "marauders (http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/barrygoldwater1964rnc.htm)," after a series of race riots in east coast cities. The speech struck a chord with white voters.

Goldwater's discovery that you could use crime as a proxy to talk about race helped define the next half-century of major-party politics in America. Later generations of pols used other issues like immigration, tax reform and "income redistribution" to achieve the same end.

We called it "dog-whistle politics"because after the Civil Rights Movement, the party line was that we were now all partners in Dr. King's famous dream of racial harmony. So there were certain things you were no longer supposed to say out loud.

You couldn't just come out and say black people were lazy anymore. But you could talk (http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/barrygoldwater1964rnc.htm) about how "good people" in "small towns" do "some of the hardest work," as Sarah Palin did in 2008. And you could hint that there was another group of people who preferred just to get "free stuff," as Mitt Romney said in 2012.

Trump made the Republican field look weak by blurting straight-out what they would only say in code (Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and Chris Christie all parroted (http://www.salon.com/2015/10/20/gops_romney_revival_republicans_adopt_the_free_stu ff_rhetoric_that_sunk_mitt/) Romney's pathetic "free stuff" line this year, for instance). This part of Trump's act has to thrill Democrats, since he's stealing away from Republicans the illusion of centrism.

Clay and Kinison and comedians like them were trying to make a point about the absurdity of policing away forbidden thoughts, while Trump is basically a cretinous dinosaur who doesn't understand why slurs about periods or the disabled or "the blacks" were ever made taboo in the first place. He's not pushing back with a laugh, from a nightclub. He wants to do it from the Oval Office. Even Dice Clay thinks he's nuts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12ksFm7ygsw).

2015 was the same kind of mistaken-identity tale. The Silent Majority has been waiting 50 years for a prophet, but this year it settled for a billionaire loudmouth with a comb-over and a personality disorder.

Like all comedies, this one is bound to end with an explosion of unintended consequences. What we won't know until 2016 is whether this joke will end up being on all of us — or just those of us who waited too long to take Trump's accidental war seriously.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-year-the-trump-laughter-died-20151229

DMX7
12-30-2015, 05:36 PM
President Trump is going to do things you wouldn't believe. That, I can tell you.

CosmicCowboy
12-30-2015, 05:56 PM
President Trump is going to do things you wouldn't believe. That, I can tell you.

:lmao

I believe you.

Reck
12-30-2015, 07:18 PM
Trump is like a child. This is war..you're my enemy. We'll go to war.

Oh and you cant spray my hair!

Thee fuck is this guy about. :lmao

boutons_deux
12-30-2015, 11:09 PM
Donald Trump Laments Loss of Aerosol Sprays to Frame His Hair (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/30/donald-trump-laments-loss-of-aerosol-sprays-to-frame-his-hair/)

Mr. Trump has offered little in the way of an environmental policy during his presidential campaign, but on Wednesday he said that President Obama’s concerns about the environment were infringing on his rights as a consumer. More pressing than saving the ozone layer, he suggested, was the freedom to buy aerosol hairspray.

“You can’t use hairspray because hairspray is going to affect the ozone,” Mr. Trump said during a rally in South Carolina (https://amp.twimg.com/v/1e4e21ae-78c5-4ad5-8eb1-822b251efe3b). “They don’t want me to use hairspray, they want me to use the pump.”

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/30/donald-trump-laments-loss-of-aerosol-sprays-to-frame-his-hair/

boutons_deux
01-01-2016, 04:38 PM
Crazy Trump Spokesperson with Bullet Necklace Turns Out to be Unemployment Cheat & Shoplifter (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/31/1465057/-Crazy-Trump-Spokesperson-with-Bullet-Necklace-Turns-Out-to-be-Welfare-Cheat-and-Shoplifter)


http://images.dailykos.com/images/191279/story_image/image.jpg?1451580199

Katrina Pierson, the national spokeswoman for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, collected (http://www.texasobserver.org/katrina-pierson-bubble-bursts/) at least $11,000 in unemployment benefits while she was still working.

Pierson received these benefits from the Texas Workforce Commission between January 2012 and November 2013. At the same time she received this government money, Pierson was working as a consultant for Ted Cruz’s campaign for the U.S. Senate.

Receiving unemployment benefits while she was still working would seem to go against the grain of the message being pushed by Trump and the Republican Party, who have often been quick to blame minorities and immigrants for being on the government dole, supposedly taking up resources that should be going to white Americans (in reality, whites are the most likely to receive welfare benefits).

The spokeswoman, who recently made news in a CNN appearance where she wore a necklace (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/12/30/bullet-wearing-trump-spokeswoman-goes-full-crazy-with-what-she-wants-to-wear-next-tweet/) made out of bullets and promised to wear one stylized like fetuses after gun violence prevention advocates called her out, also had an arrest for shoplifting (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140214-sessions-rival-katrina-pierson-says-1997-shoplifting-charge-helped-turn-life-around.ece). She stole clothing from a JC Penney store in Plano, Texas. She had her child with her.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/31/1465057/-Crazy-Trump-Spokesperson-with-Bullet-Necklace-Turns-Out-to-be-Welfare-Cheat-and-Shoplifter

Donny T: "I Hire Really Smart People" :lol

Reck
01-02-2016, 02:55 AM
https://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-featured-in-terrorist-recruitment-video/

Looks like Hillary wasn't lying after all.

This jack weed is giving the terrorists all the material for their recruitment.

Red Hawk #21
01-02-2016, 07:31 PM
#FactsArentRacist trending on twitter, gems being dropped. More people getting tired of Political Correctness?

angrydude
01-03-2016, 02:42 AM
https://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-featured-in-terrorist-recruitment-video/

Looks like Hillary wasn't lying after all.

This jack weed is giving the terrorists all the material for their recruitment.

More like she gave them the idea.

And I'd bet 99% of potential recruits have no idea who Trump is. They just see some white guy.

Reck
01-03-2016, 02:55 AM
More like she gave them the idea.

And I'd bet 99% of potential recruits have no idea who Trump is. They just see some white guy.

LMAO now you're saying she's planting ideas to terrorist organizations?

You get an A for spinning this. I'll give you that. :lmao

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-04-2016, 12:10 AM
, Pierson was working as a consultant for Ted Cruz’s campaign for the U.S. Senate.




So is she just a hired gun or are Trump and Cruz working together to try and cock block any neocons from the nomination?

Winehole23
01-04-2016, 11:56 AM
tapping disgust seems to be working:

https://newrepublic.com/article/126837/donald-trump-politics-disgust

boutons_deux
01-04-2016, 11:58 AM
tapping disgust seems to be working:

https://newrepublic.com/article/126837/donald-trump-politics-disgust

disgust isn't a govt policy, it's only a campaign issue, like Trump's racism, xenophobia, nativism, birtherism, women-hating

In beautiful symmetry, Donnty T disgusts 10Ms people. He couldn't beat Bernie in the election.

DMX7
01-04-2016, 06:21 PM
Trump Supporters, let's share our favorite thing about Trump. I like how he speaks his mind. :bobo

rmt
01-04-2016, 09:20 PM
If Hillary was watching this video so much, why didn't she produce it back when she first mentioned it? Is it so hard to tape whatever foreign station the video was playing on and show proof BACK THEN?

boutons_deux
01-05-2016, 03:46 PM
Disaster For Trump As Campaign Sent Reeling After Botched Television Ad

The Donald Trump campaign is reeling and spinning itself in circles after admitting that they accidentally screwed up the Republican frontrunner’s first television ad by showing footage of Morocco instead of Mexico.

Donald Trump’s first television ad showed footage of people pouring over a border that the campaign suggested was from the US southern border. PolitiFact tracked down the footage, (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/04/donald-trump/donald-trumps-first-tv-ad-shows-migrants-southern-/)“PolitiFact was able to trace the footage back to the Italian television network RepubblicaTV. On May 3, 2014, the network posted footage of migrants crossing the border into Melilla, one of two enclaves on the Moroccan coast that are held by Spain. Migrants who cross the border there are essentially entering territory held by a European Union nation, even though they are still on the African continent.”

Instead of owning up to their mistake, the Trump campaign claimed that they used footage of Morocco while talking about the border with Mexico on purpose. Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told NBC News, (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-ad-fact-checked-mexican-border-footage-campaign-says-no-n489981) “No s***, it’s not the Mexican border but that’s what our country is going to look like. This was 1,000 percent on purpose.”

On Tuesday, Trump’s lawyer told CNN’s New Day (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/05/cnns-chris-cuomo-just-got-donald-trumps-lawyer-to-cop-to-a-mistake-in-their-tv-ad/) that the use of the footage of Morocco was an accident, “Yeah, I’m going to have a conversation with whoever made the mistake — there’s no doubt about that.”

The lawyer took the admission that a mistake was made back in an email to to the media (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-ad-mistake-morocco-217355#ixzz3wP1FRu6y), “I wasn’t aware of the question as stated, knew little about the ad or campaign strategy, but after connecting with the Trump campaign, I understand it was done that way to demonstrate that the United States has become a dumping ground for other countries who are continually taking advantage of us. I do not speak for Mr. Trump or the campaign.”

Trying to fool voters into believing that footage of Morocco was the US border with Mexico was bad enough, but the bigger problem for the Trump campaign is that they have demonstrated that can’t handle something as simple as getting their story straight. The Trump campaign has been all over the place with their excuses while refusing to be honest with voters about their mistake.

The worst fears of many Republicans are being confirmed with this debacle.

If Trump can’t release an ad without screwing it up, how is going to win an election if he is the Republican nominee? Donald Trump doesn’t have much in terms of campaign organization, and the fact that they botched their first ad and continued to lie about it should make Republicans very uneasy about nominating a campaign that is clearly an amateur hour operation.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/05/disaster-trump-campaign-reeling-botched-television-ad.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

:lol

Donny T's "winning" ad. Donny wins so much stuff. Make America ... laugh at him again.

rmt
01-05-2016, 04:02 PM
Trump Supporters, let's share our favorite thing about Trump. I like how he speaks his mind. :bobo

What I like is that no one owns him, therefore he can speak his own mind - he can say what a lot of people are thinking but can't say for fear of being ostracized, losing their job, labelled a xxxxx, etc. I also like that he is a businessman and hopefully will bring back the jobs - which is the key to solving a lot of US's problems. When you have a good job, you can take care of your own AND help others (financially, I mean).

CosmicCowboy
01-05-2016, 04:05 PM
Disaster For Trump As Campaign Sent Reeling After Botched Television Ad

The Donald Trump campaign is reeling and spinning itself in circles after admitting that they accidentally screwed up the Republican frontrunner’s first television ad by showing footage of Morocco instead of Mexico.

Donald Trump’s first television ad showed footage of people pouring over a border that the campaign suggested was from the US southern border. PolitiFact tracked down the footage, (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/04/donald-trump/donald-trumps-first-tv-ad-shows-migrants-southern-/)“PolitiFact was able to trace the footage back to the Italian television network RepubblicaTV. On May 3, 2014, the network posted footage of migrants crossing the border into Melilla, one of two enclaves on the Moroccan coast that are held by Spain. Migrants who cross the border there are essentially entering territory held by a European Union nation, even though they are still on the African continent.”

Instead of owning up to their mistake, the Trump campaign claimed that they used footage of Morocco while talking about the border with Mexico on purpose. Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told NBC News, (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-ad-fact-checked-mexican-border-footage-campaign-says-no-n489981) “No s***, it’s not the Mexican border but that’s what our country is going to look like. This was 1,000 percent on purpose.”

On Tuesday, Trump’s lawyer told CNN’s New Day (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/05/cnns-chris-cuomo-just-got-donald-trumps-lawyer-to-cop-to-a-mistake-in-their-tv-ad/) that the use of the footage of Morocco was an accident, “Yeah, I’m going to have a conversation with whoever made the mistake — there’s no doubt about that.”

The lawyer took the admission that a mistake was made back in an email to to the media (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-ad-mistake-morocco-217355#ixzz3wP1FRu6y), “I wasn’t aware of the question as stated, knew little about the ad or campaign strategy, but after connecting with the Trump campaign, I understand it was done that way to demonstrate that the United States has become a dumping ground for other countries who are continually taking advantage of us. I do not speak for Mr. Trump or the campaign.”

Trying to fool voters into believing that footage of Morocco was the US border with Mexico was bad enough, but the bigger problem for the Trump campaign is that they have demonstrated that can’t handle something as simple as getting their story straight. The Trump campaign has been all over the place with their excuses while refusing to be honest with voters about their mistake.

The worst fears of many Republicans are being confirmed with this debacle.

If Trump can’t release an ad without screwing it up, how is going to win an election if he is the Republican nominee? Donald Trump doesn’t have much in terms of campaign organization, and the fact that they botched their first ad and continued to lie about it should make Republicans very uneasy about nominating a campaign that is clearly an amateur hour operation.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/05/disaster-trump-campaign-reeling-botched-television-ad.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

:lol

Donny T's "winning" ad. Donny wins so much stuff. Make America ... laugh at him again.




crazy! How dare they claim immigrants are pouring into the US from Mexico!

http://www.wnd.com/files/2014/07/bestia-beast-train-illegal-alien-children-600-2.jpg

DMX7
01-05-2016, 04:09 PM
What I like is that no one owns him, therefore he can speak his own mind - he can say what a lot of people are thinking but can't say for fear of being ostracized, losing their job, labelled a xxxxx, etc. I also like that he is a businessman and hopefully will bring back the jobs - which is the key to solving a lot of US's problems. When you have a good job, you can take care of your own AND help others (financially, I mean).

Also, he doesn't have time for political correctness. And PC is a big problem in our country, lol.

DMX7
01-05-2016, 11:21 PM
Cruz is doing well, but he may not be eligible to run due to his birth place. Trump hopes this is not the case, but people are talking about it. People are talking about it and it could be an issue.

boutons_deux
01-06-2016, 12:16 PM
Trump Has Allowed Pundits to Revive the Great Penis Chase of the 1990s

Guess what's back in the news? You'll never guess.

It's Bill Clinton's penis!

Because the national news media will jump at everything that proceeds from the mouth of the vulgar talking yam currently leading the Republican presidential field, everybody has decided to relive the formative experience of their young pundit lives—the Great Penis Chase of the 1990's. There are a number of excuses given for this: 1) Donald Trump mentioned it; 2) Bill Cosby; 3) Hillary Rodham Clinton's feminism; 4) Donald Trump mentioned it, and 5) Donald Trump, you know, mentioned it.

Ruth Marcus, scourge of teenaged potty-mouths everywhere (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a11878/emma-sullivan-potty-mouth-6603619/), has weighed in (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.washingtonpost.com_opinions_trump-2Dis-2Dright-2Dbill-2Dclintons-2Dsordid-2Dsexual-2Dhistory-2Dis-2Dfair-2Dgame_2015_12_28_70a26bdc-2Dad92-2D11e5-2Db711-2D1998289ffcea-5Fstory.html&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=C0G6Ae5N6o-49Sr-4B0ssYoInBjTRIEXRRb2OslIKxo&m=T5LAqfSqki2Iy95Fl0CVbcFimdAuCTVQYvoCIV5OVVU&s=LJYMQEBzekN_6oBzrS9vkIOnFqFYvJ20lFB1L3-gLqg&e=):

Well, Bill Clinton has a penchant for something. He had a successful presidency—with an ugly blot. "Sexism" isn't the precise word for his predatory behavior toward women or his inexcusable relationship with a 22-year-old intern. Yet in the larger scheme of things, Bill Clinton's conduct toward women is far worse than any of the offensive things that Trump has said.


Is it worse than any of the offensive things toward women that Trump allegedly has done (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.huffingtonpost.com_entry_donald-2Dtrump-2Drape-5F55b6df6ce4b0074ba5a60418&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=C0G6Ae5N6o-49Sr-4B0ssYoInBjTRIEXRRb2OslIKxo&m=T5LAqfSqki2Iy95Fl0CVbcFimdAuCTVQYvoCIV5OVVU&s=3HDbqEW9bsO-20mfzVhhA_IyzrV0zeUBvzBXBkLl_5Y&e=)? Inquiring minds want to know.

But the real speciality du jour was delivered to Glenn Kessler, the Washington Post's fact-checker, who ran through an entire New Year's Eve marathon (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.washingtonpost.com_news_fact-2Dchecker_wp_2015_12_30_a-2Dguide-2Dto-2Dthe-2Dallegations-2Dof-2Dbill-2Dclintons-2Dwomanizing&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=C0G6Ae5N6o-49Sr-4B0ssYoInBjTRIEXRRb2OslIKxo&m=T5LAqfSqki2Iy95Fl0CVbcFimdAuCTVQYvoCIV5OVVU&s=U-9yZsr2X2a1CmqMMhPxp6wBaalH3sX-GHcLkfIJizc&e=) as though he were the SyFy Channel and Bill Clinton were The Twilight Zone. I confess a certain fondness for a "fact-checker" who provides us with a guide to "allegations." The further you read down in the piece, the foggier the facts of it get, until you get to this passage right here:

Peter Baker, in "The Breach (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amazon.com_The-2DBreach-2DInside-2DImpeachment-2DWilliam_dp_1476730075&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=C0G6Ae5N6o-49Sr-4B0ssYoInBjTRIEXRRb2OslIKxo&m=T5LAqfSqki2Iy95Fl0CVbcFimdAuCTVQYvoCIV5OVVU&s=1A1vRQLTEVA5vG6szaTKi22LrmygHhVDxmpU7jntT8Y&e=)," the definitive account of the impeachment saga, reported that House investigators later found in the files of the independent prosecutor that Jones's lawyers had collected the names of 21 different women they suspected had had a sexual relationship with Clinton.

Baker described the files as "wild allegations, sometimes based on nothing more than hearsay claims of third-party witnesses." But there were some allegations (page 138) that suggested unwelcome advances:

"One woman was alleged to have been asked by Clinton to give him oral sex in a car while he was the state attorney general (a claim she denied). A former Arkansas state employee said that during a presentation, then-Governor Clinton walked behind her and rubbed his pelvis up against her repeatedly. A woman identified as a third cousin of Clinton's supposedly told her drug counselor during treatment in Arkansas that she was abused by Clinton when she was baby-sitting at the Governor's Mansion in Little Rock."


Even the author quoted by the fact-checker calls these "wild allegations, sometimes based on nothing more than hearsay claims of third-party witnesses." (It was a strange time, kids. Ask your folks.) Nonetheless, we quickly get to, "But…" and that "but" is doing a lot of heavy lifting by the end of the paragraph. I also note the lack of Pinocchios awarded to He, Trump as regards to the tweet that touched this whole thing off.

If only there had been someone who warned us all this was coming (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a22860/hillary-clinton-2016-opinion-0613/), we might have been prepared.

It would be a capital mistake to believe that Ms. Clinton's years as a senator, and as a presidential candidate, and as secretary of state—to say nothing of the post-presidential popularity of her husband—have somehow put all the ghosts of the 1990s to rest. The political climate is even wilder now, the political conversation, in many quarters, even further detached from reality than it was when Rush Limbaugh openly passed along a report that Vince Foster had died in some Washington pied-à-terre, only to have his body moved to Fort Marcy Park. There are thousands of little Limbaughs now, on the radio and on the Internet. A lot of mainstream political journalism is being practiced by young people whose formative lessons in the business were not Woodward and Bernstein chasing down lead after futile lead, but rather Matt Drudge ruling the world in the 1990s, with all the elite press chasing after him. I would like to believe we all have learned as much as we've needed to learn from that incredible decade of enabled slander. I also would like to believe in unicorns.


http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a40891/bill-clinton-sex-scandal-returns/

boutons_deux
01-06-2016, 12:21 PM
Cruz is doing well, but he may not be eligible to run due to his birth place. Trump hopes this is not the case, but people are talking about it. People are talking about it and it could be an issue.

even man-on-dog inSane torum won IA. lots of ignorant, evangelical Bible humpers in the IA Repug base, which is less than total IA Repugs, with IA having less than 1% of the US population. iow, IA is meaningless as predictor.

Trump's birterism is bullshit, for Obama or Krazy Kruz, but Trump's base is always hungry for slander and lies.

DMX7
01-06-2016, 01:09 PM
Trump didn't say Cruz was not eligible. He just said people are talking about, and a lot of people are talking about it (mostly him). Even some legal scholars believe he may not be eligible.

boutons_deux
01-06-2016, 02:36 PM
Trump didn't say Cruz was not eligible. He just said people are talking about, and a lot of people are talking about it (mostly him). Even some legal scholars believe he may not be eligible.

Krazy Kruz, aka Lex Luthor, is a US citizen through his Krazy-assed US citizen Christian Taliban father (unless he and his father have been forging documents and have been lying).

boutons_deux
01-06-2016, 02:41 PM
Low Energy Donald Trump Has Campaigned Less For The White House Than Hillary Clinton

On MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Donald Trump called Hillary Clinton low energy, but the numbers reveal that Clinton has made dozens more campaign stops than the Republican frontrunner.

According to National Journal’s candidate travel tracker (http://nj-travel-tracker.herokuapp.com/), Hillary Clinton has made 129 campaign stops compared to 100 for Trump. Ted Cruz has made one more campaign visit than Trump at 101, and two struggling Republicans have made the most campaign stops. Jeb Bush has made 172, and Ben Carson has made 135.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/06/energy-donald-trump-campaigned-white-house-hillary-clinton.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Just another Trump pants-on-fire lie for his ignorant, misogynist supporters to suck down.

DMX7
01-06-2016, 02:51 PM
Krazy Kruz, aka Lex Luthor, is a US citizen through his Krazy-assed US citizen Christian Taliban father (unless he and his father have been forging documents and have been lying).

All I can say is that people are talking about this issue and legal scholars have some doubts. I just wanted to put that out there. I am not saying I or Trump have doubts (i'm not saying we don't have doubts either though).

DMX7
01-06-2016, 02:54 PM
Low Energy Donald Trump Has Campaigned Less For The White House Than Hillary Clinton

On MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Donald Trump called Hillary Clinton low energy, but the numbers reveal that Clinton has made dozens more campaign stops than the Republican frontrunner.

According to National Journal’s candidate travel tracker (http://nj-travel-tracker.herokuapp.com/), Hillary Clinton has made 129 campaign stops compared to 100 for Trump. Ted Cruz has made one more campaign visit than Trump at 101, and two struggling Republicans have made the most campaign stops. Jeb Bush has made 172, and Ben Carson has made 135.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/06/energy-donald-trump-campaigned-white-house-hillary-clinton.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Just another Trump pants-on-fire lie for his ignorant, misogynist supporters to suck down.






Having "energy" is about way more than how many campaign stops you make. :lol

It's about how passionately one speaks and the strength and creativity of one's ideas.

I'm not saying he is high energy. I'm just saying it doesn't make Hillary high energy.

CosmicCowboy
01-06-2016, 03:33 PM
I will give Trump credit that he puts himself out there every day with no holds barred interviews and has done hundreds. He doesn't discriminate...he will do CBS, MSNBC, NPR etc. and isn't scared to face an adversarial interviewer. Hillary, on the other hand scripts everything, plants "questions" at "town hall meetings" and shits her panties at the thought of a no holds barred interview with anyone that won't pitch her softball questions.

boutons_deux
01-06-2016, 03:39 PM
"no holds barred interviews"

... fulls slander, lies, bullshit. He and his supporters are a shit stain on America.

CosmicCowboy
01-06-2016, 03:42 PM
even man-on-dog inSane torum won IA. lots of ignorant, evangelical Bible humpers in the IA Repug base, which is less than total IA Repugs, with IA having less than 1% of the US population. iow, IA is meaningless as predictor.

Trump's birterism is bullshit, for Obama or Krazy Kruz, but Trump's base is always hungry for slander and lies.

You really are stupid. Since 1976 no candidate from either party except one has won the nomination without winning either Iowa or New Hampshire. It's not as much that they are representative of the US voters but rather contributions dry up and the underdogs run out of money.

rmt
01-06-2016, 03:56 PM
You really are stupid. Since 1976 no candidate from either party except one has won the nomination without winning either Iowa or New Hampshire. It's not as much that they are representative of the US voters but rather contributions dry up and the underdogs run out of money.

Contributions drying up won't affect Trump so hopefully he makes it to March 15 when winner takes all states kicks in and the bigger, more moderate states vote.

boutons, I thought Cruz is a citizen through his mother.

And oil is at all time low - time to buy.

boutons_deux
01-06-2016, 04:18 PM
You really are stupid. Since 1976 no candidate from either party except one has won the nomination without winning either Iowa or New Hampshire. It's not as much that they are representative of the US voters but rather contributions dry up and the underdogs run out of money.

Santorum won IA, and disappeared. Cruz is polling ahead of Trump in IA, he will disappear.

Trump looks to win NH

boutons_deux
01-07-2016, 12:10 PM
How Donald Trump Loses


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/opinion/campaign-stops/how-donald-trump-loses.html

boutons_deux
01-07-2016, 04:43 PM
New Trump Attack Video Ties Hillary Clinton To Cosby, Anthony Weiner
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-web-video-cosby-clinton?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

spurraider21
01-07-2016, 05:02 PM
Trump Supporters, let's share our favorite thing about Trump. I like how he speaks his mind. :bobo
and that makes him more qualified to be president? not seeing it

boutons_deux
01-07-2016, 05:13 PM
#BlackMovieStarsDontMatter

Trump says he doesn't remember ever playing golf with Samuel L.Jackson—Jackson smashes him (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/6/1466617/-Trump-says-he-doesn-t-remember-ever-playing-golf-with-Samuel-L-Jackson-Jackson-smashes-him)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/06/1466617/-Trump-says-he-doesn-t-remember-ever-playing-golf-with-Samuel-L-Jackson-Jackson-smashes-him?detail=email

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-07-2016, 11:58 PM
Going to a Trump rally to try to make him feelthebern but forgetting a second change of underpants:lol
:36 shaking realizing how far away from a safespace he is:lol
1:45 granny trying to get a trip in at the end :rollin

-s2dm2AuUr0

boutons_deux
01-08-2016, 03:41 PM
Trump's angry white men – and why there are more of them than you think

White Americans feel more angry than black Americans, according to a November survey (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a40693/american-rage-nbc-survey/) of 3,257 US adults by Esquire and NBC.

White people were more likely than black people to say their current financial situation isn’t what they thought it would be when they were younger, and they were also more likely to put that down to difficult circumstances rather than “wrong choices”. :lol

Trump understands these white men – or at the very least, he understands that these white men want a politician who understands them. It was these voters that Trump was speaking to when he said (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-says-african-american-youths-have-no-spirit-10342030.html) last year:

And if you look at black and African American youth, to a point where they’ve never done more poorly. There’s no spirit.


This is more than just opportunism – Trump gets it. Of course, the history of American politicians is the history of many, many white men, but there’s something unique about Trump’s whiteness and his masculinity. He is distinctly unashamed of either trait, and is unwilling to even pay lip service to the notion that they were beneficial to his success. In a 1989 NBC interview (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1989-09-13/news/8909133112_1_black-white-people-white-women), for example, he made his point:

A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that … I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.


Liberals may respond with rolled eyes or outrage, but for men like the hypothetical Michael, quotes like these are evidence that Trump is simply willing to state facts others are too cowardly to say. Michael still probably wouldn’t think of himself as racist – 10% (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/july_2013/more_americans_view_blacks_as_racist_than_whites_h ispanics) of white Americans think white Americans are racist. But 38% of those white Americans think black people are racist.

When asked why black Americans have worse jobs, incomes and housing on average than whites, 45% of white Americans (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/30/upshot/dont-be-surprised-that-people-still-say-racist-things.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-upshot) in 2012 said it was because “blacks don’t have the motivation or willpower to pull themselves out of poverty”.

The fact that most media organizations do not repeat these beliefs – aka “facts” to some who hold them – merely entrenches the feeling that the mainstream, “lamestream (http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palin-defends-donald-trump-on-bible-question-2015-8)” media cannot be trusted.

Of 36 organizations listed, Fox News stands out as the crucial source to 88% of conservatives who say that they trust the information they receive from the channel. :lol

Republicans were more likely to believe in Bigfoot, government TV mind control and diseases invented for pharmaceutical companies to profit than Democrats were.

White Americans were more likely to believe those claims than black Americans, and in most cases, men were more likely than women to believe the conspiracies listed in the survey.

One theory is particularly important: 37% of Americans think global warming is a hoax. That number rises to 39% when you only look at male respondents, 41% for white respondents and 58% for Republicans. With that in mind, it’s easier to understand who the audience is when Trump makes statements like these:

With all this in mind, Trump’s rising political fortunes aren’t surprising at all. Polling shows he is more popular among Americans that are white than those who aren’t, and more popular among Americans with penises than those without. Often, these white men are also working or middle class and middle-aged

Those men represent a significant voting block in a country which is still 62% white. When those men want to hear from someone who is willing to stand up for them, Donald Trump (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donaldtrump) is only too willing to oblige. And, when what’s “right” is about unapologetically refuting facts, Trump can’t go wrong.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/08/angry-white-men-love-donald-trump

:lol White guy losers say they're screwed because of circumstances, not because of bad choices, but they say blacks are screwed by their own bad choices, not by circumstances (like being born black, poor) :lol

boutons_deux
01-08-2016, 03:49 PM
http://images.dailykos.com/images/193293/large/Screen_Shot_2016-01-07_at_9.38.28_AM.png?1452188473

DMX7
01-08-2016, 06:54 PM
http://images.dailykos.com/images/193293/large/Screen_Shot_2016-01-07_at_9.38.28_AM.png?1452188473

It's true that we need someone like Trump who is smart.

boutons_deux
01-09-2016, 09:53 AM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tweets-throughout-history_568a93d3e4b0b958f65c274c?ir=Daily%2BBrief&

boutons_deux
01-09-2016, 10:18 AM
Muslim woman expelled from Trump rally: They asked me, ‘Do you have a bomb?’


http://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Rose-Hamid-010816-800x430.jpg


The 56-year-old Muslim woman who was seen on video being harassed (https://t.co/1MpVrHPpmA) after being kicked out of a Donald Trump rally on Friday described both the pleasant encounters and “ugliness” she encountered during the event.“One guy was saying, ‘Get out — do you have a bomb? Do you have a bomb?’ Rose Hamid told CNN host Don Lemon. (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/08/politics/donald-trump-muslim-woman-protesting-ejected/index.html)

“I said, ‘No. Do you have a bomb?’ They were saying ugly, ugly things. One guy was saying, ‘God is great.’ I said, ‘Yeah, God is great.'”

Footage of the rally in Rock Hill, South Carolina captured the moment when Hamid — wearing a shirt that read “Salam, I come in peace” — and a man identified as Marty Rosenbluth were led out of the event by a police officer, and two men subsequently harassed her.

As she was being led out, Trump said, “There is hatred against us that is unbelievable. It’s their hatred, it’s not our hatred.” :lol

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/muslim-woman-expelled-from-trump-rally-they-asked-me-do-you-have-a-bomb/

"America! America! God shed His grace on thee"

boutons_deux
01-09-2016, 01:05 PM
Poll: Trump Leading By 18 Points In New Hampshire

Trump, whose appeal was balanced among men and women respondents but particularly strong among those without college degrees,

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-fox-poll-new-hampshire-january?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

CosmicCowboy
01-09-2016, 01:08 PM
interesting survey this weekend had 20% of Democrats crossing over and voting for Trump instead of Clinton.

boutons_deux
01-09-2016, 01:12 PM
interesting survey this weekend had 20% of Democrats crossing over and voting for Trump instead of Clinton.

yep, ignorance, stupidity, paranoia, susceptibility to propaganda and rabble rousing mainly infects the you rightwingnuts, but not only.

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-09-2016, 07:50 PM
Muslim woman expelled from Trump rally: They asked me, ‘Do you have a bomb?’


http://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Rose-Hamid-010816-800x430.jpg


The 56-year-old Muslim woman who was seen on video being harassed (https://t.co/1MpVrHPpmA) after being kicked out of a Donald Trump rally on Friday described both the pleasant encounters and “ugliness” she encountered during the event.“One guy was saying, ‘Get out — do you have a bomb? Do you have a bomb?’ Rose Hamid told CNN host Don Lemon. (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/08/politics/donald-trump-muslim-woman-protesting-ejected/index.html)

“I said, ‘No. Do you have a bomb?’ They were saying ugly, ugly things. One guy was saying, ‘God is great.’ I said, ‘Yeah, God is great.'”

Footage of the rally in Rock Hill, South Carolina captured the moment when Hamid — wearing a shirt that read “Salam, I come in peace” — and a man identified as Marty Rosenbluth were led out of the event by a police officer, and two men subsequently harassed her.

As she was being led out, Trump said, “There is hatred against us that is unbelievable. It’s their hatred, it’s not our hatred.” :lol

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/muslim-woman-expelled-from-trump-rally-they-asked-me-do-you-have-a-bomb/

"America! America! God shed His grace on thee"






Mudslimes and Jews working together to try to stump the Trump

http://i.imgur.com/zJw9PPU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YbsX6an.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WXhNsiV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/c8lmoHN.jpg

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-09-2016, 07:58 PM
Why Would a Man Vote for Hillary Clinton?

Posted January 9th, 2016 @ 9:51am in #Trump #clinton

If you have been following the Master Persuader series in this blog, you know that the influence stack goes like this:

Identity beats analogy

Analogy beats reason

Reason beats nothing

Most of the candidates are trying to make an appeal to reason, and failing, because reason beats nothing. Rand Paul has lots of reasons. Some might be darned good. No one cares.

Trump says he wants to “make America great again” which is a pure identity play. Voters enjoy – at a visceral level – the idea of having a national identity that makes them proud. According to the Master Persuader stack, Trump is a full layer of influence above the others. And it shows.

But what about Hillary Clinton’s identity message? Clearly she appeals to strong, alpha women who identify with her political strength and impressive success.

But what about men?

Now that Clinton has played the woman card, and said in a public debate that her gender is a selling point for the job of president, how does a man vote for that?

Well, first we must acknowledge that all people are different. Roughly speaking, I would say 20% of men are alpha types, 20% are pure betas, and 60% are lifestyle betas – meaning they have made a conscious decision to control their ambitions and base desires in order to focus on the needs of their families.

My prediction, based on the Master Persuader filter, is that a majority of male Democrats will abandon Clinton in the privacy of the voting booth. Remember that identity always beats reason, and Clinton has made it clear that in her view, men had their turn.

A big chunk of Democratic men might be lying, for social reasons, about supporting Clinton. They might lie to friends and they might lie to pollsters. But on voting day, in the privacy of the voting booth, no lying is required. On voting day day, people vote for identity.

If you are wondering how President Obama got elected in a world where identity rules, it is because he never played the race card. That made it safe for the public to create identities for themselves as open-minded. (Yay for us!) So that was a special case.

I can’t see any scenario in which Clinton wins the male vote in her own party.

Then there’s this article that suggests Clinton’s support is soft.

The survey by Washington-based Mercury Analytics is a combination online questionnaire and "dial-test" of Trump's first big campaign ad among 916 self-proclaimed "likely voters" (this video shows the ad and the dial test results). It took place primarily Wednesday and Thursday and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percent.

Nearly 20 percent of likely Democratic voters say they'd cross sides and vote for Trump, while a small number, or 14 percent, of Republicans claim they'd vote for Clinton. When those groups were further broken down, a far higher percentage of the crossover Democrats contend they are "100 percent sure" of switching than the Republicans.

When the firmed showed respondents the Trump ad, and assessed their responses to each moment of it, it found "the primary messages of Trump's ad resonated more than Democratic elites would hope."

About 25 percent of Democrats "agree completely" that it raises some good point, with an additional 19 percent agreeing at least "somewhat."

Mercury CEO Ron Howard, a Democrat whose firm works for candidates in both parties and corporate clients, concedes, "We expected Trump's first campaign spot to strongly appeal to Republican Trump supporters, with little impact – or in fact negative impact – on Democratic or independent voters."

:wow

Reck
01-09-2016, 08:09 PM
Trump didn't say Cruz was not eligible. He just said people are talking about, and a lot of people are talking about it (mostly him). Even some legal scholars believe he may not be eligible.

Trump needs to lay off the birther shit. It once blew up in his face with Obama. Why does he continue doing it? Because he sees Cruz is surging and it's a threat.

If only Trump realizes now that he has no shot at the presidency, he would save himself a lot of grief.

boutons_deux
01-09-2016, 10:46 PM
Trump praises ‘maniac’ North Korean dictator for consolidating power by slaughtering family members

“And you’ve got to give him credit — how many young guys — he was like 26 or 25 when his father died — take over these tough generals and all of a sudden, you know, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it. How does he do that?” Trump went on, according to The Hill (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/265353-trump-kim-jong-un-deserves-credit-for-taking-out-rivals).

“Even though it is a culture, and it’s a culture thing, he goes in, he takes over, he’s the boss. It’s incredible,” Trump said.

“He wiped out the uncle, he wiped out this one, that one. I mean this guy doesn’t play games.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/trump-praises-maniac-north-korean-dictator-for-consolidating-power-by-slaughtering-family-members/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

DMX7
01-10-2016, 12:48 AM
Trump praises ‘maniac’ North Korean dictator for consolidating power by slaughtering family members

“And you’ve got to give him credit — how many young guys — he was like 26 or 25 when his father died — take over these tough generals and all of a sudden, you know, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it. How does he do that?” Trump went on, according to The Hill (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/265353-trump-kim-jong-un-deserves-credit-for-taking-out-rivals).

“Even though it is a culture, and it’s a culture thing, he goes in, he takes over, he’s the boss. It’s incredible,” Trump said.

“He wiped out the uncle, he wiped out this one, that one. I mean this guy doesn’t play games.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/trump-praises-maniac-north-korean-dictator-for-consolidating-power-by-slaughtering-family-members/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

He said that tongue in cheek.

boutons_deux
01-10-2016, 08:47 AM
He said that tongue in cheek.

If so, (I doubt it, too long and elaborate) then I bet nearly all his stupid supporters took it seriously.

His comments about the Korean Strong Man align with the American Strong Man he's running as and that his "good German" supporters are longing for.

boutons_deux
01-10-2016, 11:19 AM
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boutons_deux
01-10-2016, 12:54 PM
Trump Calls Bill Clinton 'An Abuser'

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump criticized Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in an interview aired Sunday and called her husband and former President Bill Clinton "an abuser."

Trump has taken jabs at Bill's infidelities in recent weeks (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-web-video-cosby-clinton). Hillary commented (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-clinton-trump-bill-comments) on Trump's attacks Sunday and said that it was his prerogative to "engage in personal attacks from the past."

Trump didn't let up during an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press" and mentioned the reports of sexual abuse against Bill.

"She's married to an abuser," Trump said. "A woman claimed rape, and all sorts of things. I mean, horrible things."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/doanld-trump-bill-clinton-abuser?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

Donny, would you legislate to confiscate guns from abusive male partners?

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/DomesticViolenceMAP6.png

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/09/men-killing-women-domesti_n_5927140.html

or, Donny, do you have POLICIES about reducing men-on-women violence?

those women you call dogs, fat pigs, that "bleed from wherever" and are unspeakably "disgusting" in restrooms?

DMX7
01-10-2016, 01:38 PM
He is going to win the nomination.

boutons_deux
01-11-2016, 09:15 AM
http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/danzcolorplus6560-668x501.jpg

DMX7
01-11-2016, 10:39 AM
You really think he will pick Cruz? I doubt it.

boutons_deux
01-11-2016, 10:42 AM
You really think he will pick Cruz? I doubt it.

Cruz is sure playing it that way. He's not attacking Donny,

1) not to alienate, and pick up Trump's assholes if Trump collapses

or

2) be picked as Trump's Anchor Baby Veep

Trump/Krazy Kruz ticket would lose 65% - 35%, losing women, blacks, Hispanics, LGBT, young, "independents"

DMX7
01-11-2016, 10:48 AM
Cruz is sure playing in that way. He's not attacking Donny,

1) not to alienate, and pick up Trump's assholes if Trump collapses

or

2) be picked as Trump's Anchor Baby Veep

Trump/Krazy Kruz ticket would lose 65% - 35%, losing women, blacks, Hispanics, LGBT, young, "independents"

There are serious questions about Cruz's eligibility to even run. He may not be able to fill in as POTUS in an emergency if he were VP. That's one of the main things to judge a VP candidate on.

boutons_deux
01-11-2016, 11:09 AM
There are serious questions about Cruz's eligibility to even run.

see my post in the cruz thread. The Constitution is bad law, because it's so vague, arguable, open to interpretation.

rmt
01-11-2016, 08:38 PM
You really think he will pick Cruz? I doubt it.

I think so. Cruz has covered his bases by not insulting Trump, and he'll hopefully bring the far right/conservative votes. Trump will draw the moderates, independents and disenfranchised Dems - providing the widest range.

DMX7
01-11-2016, 09:55 PM
I think so. Cruz has covered his bases by not insulting Trump, and he'll hopefully bring the far right/conservative votes. Trump will draw the moderates, independents and disenfranchised Dems - providing the widest range.

Ummm... Trump is winning thanks to the far right (non-evangelicals though).

rmt
01-12-2016, 12:16 AM
Ummm... Trump is winning thanks to the far right (non-evangelicals though).

I guess I should have said the religious right. I tend to see the religious right as the furthest right (fiscally, politically and SOCIALLY - abortion, gays, etc). I guess what you call the far right (Trump followers), I see as moderate socially. I am evangelical but as far as voting for a president, imo someone like Cruz is too "religious" to work the way the country is. I feel that Trump would be more persuasive, able to work with others more than Cruz.

Quetzal-X
01-12-2016, 01:00 AM
Sooner or later he will speak his mind on bringing back internment camps for the asian community until we figure out what is going on with China.

Quetzal-X
01-12-2016, 01:02 AM
Because, frankly (shrug/pucker) we dont know/

boutons_deux
01-12-2016, 03:21 PM
Donald Trump Talks at a 4th-Grade Level. Maybe That’s Why the Fox News Audience Loves Him

Trump isn’t the cause, just the symptom. The deeper cause is a strain of anti-intellectualism that runs through the roots of American culture. And while this strain is found on both sides of the political spectrum (see some liberals on vaccines and chemtrails), it’s mostly concentrated among religious conservatives on the political right. For those who espouse anti-intellectualism, conspiracy theories have the same clout as legitimate science (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/04/18/3647978/neil-degrasse-tysons-new-show-will-blow-your-mind-on-4-20/), the opinions of non-experts are just as credible as those of the experts, and ideology takes precedence over the cold hard facts.

The US has fostered a culture of anti-intellectualism more than “most other Western countries (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wired-success/201407/anti-intellectualism-and-the-dumbing-down-america).” While traveling through Europe and the UK for extended periods of time, I’ve often been quite envious of how respectful other countries are toward those with knowledge in the fields of science and the humanities.

Not only is the U.S. unique for its love affair with anti-intellectualism, but this romantic relationship appears to have grown stronger over the past few decades. A primary reason for this is no doubt the huge influence that conservative media have had on American culture, such as Fox News, which is currently the most trusted news network in the country (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/09/fox-news-is-the-most-trusted-national-news-channel-and-its-not-that-close/).

there are to date at least seven academic studies that have found that Fox News’ viewership constitutes the most misinformed audience out there (http://www.alternet.org/media/science-fox-news-why-its-viewers-are-most-misinformed).

the most dangerous consequence of Fox News is that it discourages that most important form of rigorous curiosity called critical thinking. If people want a single phenomenon to blame for the gradual decline of the American empire, direct your wagging finger at the devaluation of critical thinking skills.

Stephen Colbert once declared, “reality has a well-known liberal bias (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X93u3anTco).”

there’s a causal link between “analytical thinking” and religious disbelief. Perhaps this is why the Republican Party of Texas literally wrote into its 2012 platform (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html) that, “We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs [that] have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs.”

“political conservatism may be a … consequence of low-effort thought,” meaning that, “when effortful, deliberate thought is disengaged, endorsement of conservative ideology increases.”

multiple studies have reported (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives) that liberals (and atheists) have higher average IQs than conservatives. One study even found (http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html) that low childhood IQ predicts conservative and racist beliefs later in life.

, Trump’s support base consists of the least educated Americans (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/27/donald-trumps-surge-is-heavily-reliant-on-less-educated-americans-heres-why/).

And it fits with the observation that the more outrageous, harebrained, foolish, and asinine Trump’s claims — from John McCain not being a “war hero” to shutting down parts of the Internet to violating the Geneva Convention by killing terrorists’ families to temporarily keeping Muslims out of America (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/08/dick-cheney-slams-trumps-muslim-entry-ban-and-suggests-u-s-re-invade-middle-east/) — the more Trump’s poll numbers seem to rise.

Holding beliefs that are properly tethered to reality via the best available evidence doesn’t matter much to the army of quasi-fascist conservatives who’ve been hypnotized by Trump’s shallow charisma.

etc, etc, etc

http://www.alternet.org/media/donald-trump-talks-4th-grade-level-maybe-thats-why-fox-news-audience-loves-him?akid=13874.187590.Pmj6ol&rd=1&src=newsletter1048826&t=10

:lol I'd say the same goes for ALL Repug supporters. iow, "the party of stupid"

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-12-2016, 09:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/F5RMrf6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RxyNvo5.jpg

boutons_deux
01-14-2016, 12:34 PM
very technical, so you stupid Trump supporters don't try to understand it.

GOP Nomination Rules Tilt the Playing Field toward Donald Trump

http://prospect.org/article/gop-nomination-rules-tilt-playing-field-toward-donald-trump

CosmicCowboy
01-14-2016, 12:43 PM
:lmao @ Dirks post

that's cold.

Sportcamper
01-14-2016, 01:51 PM
:lmao @ Dirks post...that's cold.
+1 OMG...:lmao

boutons_deux
01-14-2016, 03:12 PM
Donald Trump Vs. The ‘Son Of A B****’ Microphone Man

“By the way, I don’t like this mic. Whoever the hell bought this mic system, don’t pay the son of a bitch that put it in,” Trump said, as the crowd applauded “I’ll tell you, these people.

This mic is terrible — stupid mic keeps popping! Do you hear that, George? Don’t pay him — don’t pay him! You know, I believe in paying — but when somebody does a bad job, like this stupid mic, you shouldn’t pay the bastard.”

As the crowd roared, Trump continued: “Terrible, terrible. It’s true. And you gotta be tough with your people, ’cause they’ll pay. They don’t care. They’ll pay. So we’re not gonna pay. I guarantee, I’m not paying for this mic!”

http://www.nationalmemo.com/endorse-this-donald-trump-vs-the-son-of-a-b-microphone-man/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Endorse%20This%20-%202016-01-14&utm_term=Endorse_This_Sign_Up

rmt
01-14-2016, 05:03 PM
:lmao @ Dirks post

that's cold.

I guess Mrs. Bush must have some super personality - I doubt he married her for her looks. That's as flattering a pic of Jeb as it is unflattering of Mrs. Bush - she has really skinny legs - shouldn't wear black leggings - a white skirt would be better.

SpursforSix
01-14-2016, 05:10 PM
I guess Mrs. Bush must have some super personality - I doubt he married her for her looks. That's as flattering a pic of Jeb as it is unflattering of Mrs. Bush - she has really skinny legs - shouldn't wear black leggings - a white skirt would be better.

I heard she's crazy good in the sack.

CosmicCowboy
01-14-2016, 05:19 PM
I heard she's crazy good in the sack.

yep. Can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.

TheSanityAnnex
01-14-2016, 06:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/F5RMrf6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RxyNvo5.jpg
:lmao pregnant Willow Ufgood

GSH
01-15-2016, 12:00 PM
yep, ignorance, stupidity, paranoia, susceptibility to propaganda and rabble rousing mainly infects the you rightwingnuts, but not only.

Your entire worldview is based on hate for people you think don't deserve what they have. Always was. You tell yourself that you are innately superior, and that the "system" is keeping you down. It's the nature of losers that they are unable to see why others win.

Keep telling yourself that the superior people continually wind up at the bottom of the dunghill.

boutons_deux
01-15-2016, 12:22 PM
Your entire worldview is based on hate for people you think don't deserve what they have. Always was. You tell yourself that you are innately superior, and that the "system" is keeping you down. It's the nature of losers that they are unable to see why others win.

Keep telling yourself that the superior people continually wind up at the bottom of the dunghill.

you're full of shit. GFY

Clipper Nation
01-15-2016, 12:37 PM
Your entire worldview is based on hate for people you think don't deserve what they have. Always was. You tell yourself that you are innately superior, and that the "system" is keeping you down. It's the nature of losers that they are unable to see why others win.

Keep telling yourself that the superior people continually wind up at the bottom of the dunghill.
GSH

boutons_deux
01-17-2016, 06:02 PM
Donny T plans may sue Krazy Kruz over his right to be Pres.

SCOTUS has always declined to hear such cases

‘When I file suits, I file real suits’

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/donald-trump-may-sue-ted-cruz-over-his-eligibility-to-be-president-when-i-file-suits-i-file-real-suits/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

CosmicCowboy
01-17-2016, 07:16 PM
Your entire worldview is based on hate for people you think don't deserve what they have. Always was. You tell yourself that you are innately superior, and that the "system" is keeping you down. It's the nature of losers that they are unable to see why others win.

Keep telling yourself that the superior people continually wind up at the bottom of the dunghill.

truth bomb!

boutons_deux
01-17-2016, 08:45 PM
"Your entire worldview"

... you have NO IDEA

"is based on hate for people you think don't deserve what they have."

... bullshit. All us smart people know the US economy is rigged. the riggers don't deserve their extreme lucre

"you are innately superior"

I AM superior to all you rightwingnuts and your bullshit extremist politicians you so blindly elect and re-elect.


"that the "system" is keeping you down"

the rigged system is keep EVERYBODY down.

"It's the nature of losers that they are unable to see why others win"

the US is rigged by and for the 1%, BigCorp, which you obviously, naively don't believe, filled with bullshit, propaganda, myths.

"Keep telling yourself that the superior people continually wind up at the bottom of the dunghill"

:lol WTF?

Reck
01-17-2016, 09:11 PM
http://i.imgur.com/F5RMrf6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RxyNvo5.jpg

:lmao

Bitch looks like the Leprechaum from the movies. :lmao

DMX7
01-18-2016, 10:52 AM
Those glasses are pretty stylish.