Church of Trump [Archive] - Page 18

boutons_deux

06-08-2016, 06:38 PM

The GOP Owns Trump University's Sleaze: Republicans Have Been Tolerant of Con Artists for Decades

Republicans want distance from Trump U, but their party's long acceptance of grifters makes the stigma stick

“My decision to approve the request to investigate and to devote state resources to that investigation was made without regard to the fact that the company was associated with Donald Trump,” Morales told the Texas Tribune (https://www.texastribune.org/2016/06/03/former-ag-official-abbott-did-not-pull-strings-tru/). “To be clear, I did not discuss this matter with General Abbott.”

Morales’ statement is probably the end of this particular kerfuffle, barring any new information linking Abbott to this decision. But the whole thing shows how deep and scalding the water that Republicans find themselves in truly is.

Abbott’s communications director, Matt Hirsch claimed his boss is exonerated because, “Trump U was forced out of Texas and consumers were protected.” Which, while the word “fraud” wasn’t used, amounts to a tacit admission that they know Trump U is fraudulent, so much so that it had to be forced out of the state to protect Texans from Trump’s economic predation.

The governor of Texas has basically admitted, in public, that the presidential nominee of his own party is a grifter who was running a fraudulent business that had to be strong-armed out of the state. Trump is so undeniably corrupt that even his own party members are having to admit it and just try as hard as they can to keep their distance.

Republican nomination is that the party has spent decades being tolerant, even welcoming, to all manner of grifters and frauds who, for whatever reason, see the conservative base as a bunch of easy-to-exploit marks for their shady money-making schemes.

From Glenn Beck to Mike Huckabee to Sarah Palin, the entire Republican party is full of sleazy operators who use hyperbolic reactionary rhetoric as a sales tactic to push all manner of snake oil.

SarahPAC, the political action committee run by Sarah Palin, that fundraises by promising donors that the money will help elect more conservative politicians into office. The problem is that almost none of the money raised goes to candidates (http://crooksandliars.com/2014/10/sarah-palins-pac-mostly-spends-its-money), and instead seems mostly to be spent on promoting Palin’s brand, leading to more book sales and paid appearances for her.

“Of the 417 leadership PACs (http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/industry.php?txt=Q03&cycle=2012&view=R) that made at least one contribution in that cycle,” Open Secrets reported in October 2014 (http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2014/10/sarahpac-like-palin-herself-light-on-donations-to-fellow-republicans/), “SarahPAC was one of only 19 to give less than 10 percent of its total expenditures to candidates, other PACs or party committees.”

SarahPAC spent $2.7 million overall. Only $150,000, or 5.5 percent, actually went to candidates. The rest went to paid consultants, buying Palin’s books for giveaways, travel for Palin and her staff and other activities that are more properly understood as “advertising Sarah Palin” than fundraising for candidates.

Scam PACs are a major problem on the right (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/super-pac-scams-114581), with dozens and possibly hundreds of groups rising up, claiming to be there to help elect Republicans, but actually just taking most of the money for themselves instead.

Newt Gingrich appears to be making a mint of his direct mail scams (http://www.rawstory.com/2010/12/maddow-newt-gingrich-direct-mail-scam-artist/), which include sending out fake awards and charging people fees ranging from $2,000 to $5,000 to collect them.

Mike Huckabee’s email list (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/01/03/mike-huckabee-sold-out-his-fans-to-a-quack-doct/202000)is always hawking fake “cures” and other shady products.

Glenn Beck has been deeply involved (http://gawker.com/5599293/how-glenn-beck-and-goldline-rip-off-fox-news-viewers) in a gold-selling scam through the company Goldline.

Multiple conservative outlets and even former senator Scott Brown (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/02/05/here-are-5-conservative-outlets-that-promoted-t/197943) have been outed for pushing fake Alzheimer cures.

Ben Carson’s presidential campaign (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/ben-carsons-campaign-is-still-spending-like-crazy/458925/) was structured more like a direct mail scam than a legitimate campaign.

Trump’s grifter tendencies cannot be understood as a departure from regular Republican politics. Instead, this is just another case of Trump taking something that already existed in conservative circles and turning the volume up dramatically.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/republicans-have-long-been-tolerant-trump-con-artists

Reck

06-08-2016, 06:40 PM

Trump's own lawyer donated to Hillary :lol

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/daniel-petrocelli-lawyer-trump-clinton-donation-224047

You have to wonder why he didn't run as a democrat. Trump has more democratic ties than republican.

He probably knew he had zero chance running with a D next to his name so he decided to hijack the republican party instead.

boutons_deux

06-08-2016, 06:43 PM

Humanitarian Donald Trump Tried To Open A ‘Homeless Shelter’ To Drive Out Tenants. What a Guy!

Mother Jones takes us back (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/the-donald-trump-files-homeless-100-central-park-south) to a little-remembered moment in Donald Trump’s infamy, when he was already widely despised in New York and just starting to be known as a colossal jerkwad on a national scale. Having already destroyed New York architectural history, (http://www.pressherald.com/2016/03/18/trumps-first-media-controversy-is-a-really-great-story/) Trump found himself with a dilemma:

He’d bought a whole bunch of old luxury buildings overlooking Central Park and wanted to tear down the lot of them to put up another goddamn glass monstrosity with “TRUMP” all over it, but there were some stubborn tenants in one building, 100 Central Park South, who not only didn’t want to vacate, but were actually protected by New York’s fascist/socialist/unfair to rich developers rent-control laws. What’s a budding real estate baron to do when people get in his way and think they have “rights”?

The problem was of his own making. “I didn’t fully understand until much later…that it’s almost impossible to legally vacate a building filled with rent-controlled and rent-stabilized apartments,” he noted in his 1987 bestseller, The Art of the Deal. (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0399594493/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0399594493&linkCode=as2&tag=wonkette0f-20&linkId=a64281ea99d82e9f0f92c2bb676c129f) But that didn’t mean he didn’t try. He sent eviction notices (http://www.nytimes.com/1985/02/28/nyregion/trump-eviction-dispute-taken-to-state-hearing.html) and cut off heat, hot water, and other services, (http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/28/news/trump-apartment-tenants/) according to lawsuits filed against him. None of that worked, so he tested another solution.

“By the summer of 1982 — about a year after I took over the building — the problem of the homeless in New York was beginning to get a lot of attention,” he recalled in the book. “One morning, after passing several homeless people sleeping on benches in Central Park, I got an idea. I had more than a dozen vacant apartments at 100 Central Park South. Because I still planned to demolish the building, I had no intention of filling the apartments with permanent tenants. Why not, I thought, offer them to the city for use by the homeless, on a temporary

Trump described the tenants he wanted to evict as “multimillionaires living in rent-controlled apartments” who were taking advantage of him by getting in his way

As for those “millionaires living in rent-controlled apartments,” Schanberg did a little digging, and learned that in reality,

while some of the tenants in the 15-story Central Park South building are quite rich, many are elderly people living on fixed incomes, such as Social Security checks, who have made their homes there for 20 years or more.

Imagine that! Would you believe that even back in the 1980s, Donald Trump was a pathological liar?

Yes, we too are shocked, gentle readers.

Ultimately, the city turned down Trump’s beautiful plan for a benevolent place where homeless people could be housed until they drove out the troublesome existing tenants, because city government was full of Mexicans, no doubt, or at least short-sighted functionaries who didn’t appreciate the Art Of The Deal.

And that was the end of what Schanberg dubbed the “Trump Chateau For The Indigent.” You can see why Donald Trump hates politicians.

http://wonkette.com/602722/humanitarian-donald-trump-tried-to-open-a-homeless-shelter-to-drive-out-tenants-what-a-guy

boutons_deux

06-08-2016, 06:59 PM

Just your typical Trash supporter, slave state version

Black Father Assaulted By White Trump-Supporting Hospital Volunteer Speaks Out

North Carolina resident Isaiah Baskins’ two-month-old daughter was born with a heart condition and has already undergone two surgeries. So when he took her to see a doctor at Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center on April 14, he was already stressed.

His wife decided to take their infant into the appointment while he watched his two older sons in the hospital’s family waiting room. That’s when a white volunteer approached him and his sons (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/06/08/3785917/hospital-assault-trump/).

“Get your black kids out of here,” she yelled, according to his attorney. “Do you even have a job? Do you know what a job is, n—? This is what Donald Trump’s talking about, people like you.”

"It was a very stressful situation because I was already in the hospital because my daughter had heart surgery twice, so when this happened, it was unexpected," he told ThinkProgress. "I was embarrassed. My children were scared."

"I felt like I was back in 1950 or 1967, you know?" he continued. "I never thought this would actually happen to me or my family. I've seen it on TV, seen it in movies, but I never thought it would happen to my family."

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/06/08/3786067/isaiah-baskins-donald-trump-north-carolina-hospital-donna-bridger/

the video is hilarious, Trash-y people supporting Trash

boutons_deux

06-08-2016, 07:07 PM

Donald Trump once backed urgent climate action. Wait, what?

As negotiators headed to Copenhagen in December 2009 to forge a global climate pact, concerned U.S. business leaders and liberal luminaries took out a full-page ad in the New York Times calling for aggressive climate action. In an open letter to President Obama and the U.S. Congress, they declared:

“If we fail to act now, it is scientifically irrefutable that there will be catastrophic and irreversible consequences for humanity and our planet.”

One of the signatories of that letter: Donald Trump.

Also signed by Trump’s three adult children, the letter called for passage of U.S. climate legislation, investment in the clean energy economy, and leadership to inspire the rest of the world to join the fight against climate change.

http://grist.org/politics/donald-trump-climate-action-new-york-times/

Mitch

06-08-2016, 07:14 PM

:lmao I will bet you $500 Trump loses PA by 5 points or more

Remind me, Splitsy, how much did Romney lose PA by... remember Romney had very little evangelical support and wasn't a popular candidate.

Hillary's coal comments and Trump's support by the Teamsters (wtf a union supporting a republican? :lol) are pointing to PA being a much closer state than last cycle.

But I mentioned before, if you want to bet on the winner I'll take you on a fun bet (you never responded to my accepting your challenge btw.)

Mitch

06-08-2016, 07:16 PM

What are you talking about?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250910&page=139&p=8613381&viewfull=1#post8613381

#4157

You never responded after I clarified your question "Online poll?"

Reck

06-08-2016, 07:24 PM

#4157

You never responded after I clarified your question "Online poll?"

I thought it was settled.

Mitch

06-08-2016, 07:43 PM

I thought it was settled.

:lol Alright

Splits

06-08-2016, 08:32 PM

Remind me, Splitsy, how much did Romney lose PA by... remember Romney had very little evangelical support and wasn't a popular candidate.

Hillary's coal comments and Trump's support by the Teamsters (wtf a union supporting a republican? :lol) are pointing to PA being a much closer state than last cycle.

But I mentioned before, if you want to bet on the winner I'll take you on a fun bet (you never responded to my accepting your challenge btw.)

Pussy. Just like your coward candidate and the rest of his cowardice cult. I give you 5 points and you STILL won't take the bet.

Mitch

06-08-2016, 09:08 PM

Pussy. Just like your coward candidate and the rest of his cowardice cult. I give you 5 points and you STILL won't take the bet.

You're the only pussy here, Splitsy - you wanted to bet that Trump won't win the election and I accepted and offered my terms.

Splits

06-08-2016, 10:05 PM

You're the only pussy here, Splitsy - you wanted to bet that Trump won't win the election and I accepted and offered my terms.

:lol pussy. Probably haven't ever had $500 cash in your pathetic life. Probably went $35k in debt to Trump U :lmao

Link your offer, I didn't see it

Th'Pusher

06-08-2016, 10:15 PM

You're the only pussy here, Splitsy - you wanted to bet that Trump won't win the election and I accepted and offered my terms.

You can't really call him a pussy when you offer a "fun bet on the winner". Put up some $ if you're willing to stand behind a trump win. He gave you 5 points in PA.

Reck

06-08-2016, 10:19 PM

Do it Mitch. :lol

Mitch

06-08-2016, 10:24 PM

:lol pussy. Probably haven't ever had $500 cash in your pathetic life. Probably went $35k in debt to Trump U :lmao

Link your offer, I didn't see it

Go look for it, shitstick. I accepted, you ignored.

Splits

06-08-2016, 10:27 PM

Go look for it, shitstick. I accepted, you ignored.

Obviously it never happened

How about $500 Trump loses PA and OH?

Mitch

06-08-2016, 10:34 PM

Obviously it never happened

How about $500 Trump loses PA and OH?

Are you lazy or just too stupid to do a search, Splits?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261084&p=8609455&viewfull=1#post8609455

- also, don't need cash. but if you want me to put money on it w/e, sure

Th'Pusher

06-08-2016, 10:34 PM

Mitch, not only are you an election cycle tourist in the political forum, I'm starting to get the felling you're a pussy as well.

Mitch

06-08-2016, 10:35 PM

Mitch, not only are you an election cycle tourist in the political forum, I'm starting to get the felling you're a pussy as well.

Go back upstairs, dumbass.

Th'Pusher

06-08-2016, 10:38 PM

Go back upstairs, dumbass.

I don't hang out upstairs. So if splits becomes cub's shoe shiner if trump wins, what's your debt should Hillary win? You seemed to have left that out of your big boy bet.

Splits

06-08-2016, 10:40 PM

Are you lazy or just too stupid to do a search, Splits?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261084&p=8609455&viewfull=1#post8609455

- also, don't need cash. but if you want me to put money on it w/e, sure

That's your "bet"?

That if Trump wins I shine Dale's shoes and if he loses then nothing?

:lmao you're a fucking amateur

Name your bet, bitch. I've aleady given you multiple with favorable odds. You've specified nothing.

Just like your hero racist. All talk, no action.

Pussy

Th'Pusher

06-08-2016, 10:42 PM

^ he's fucking you pretty good there Mitch? Whatcha gonna do?

Mitch

06-08-2016, 10:42 PM

That's your "bet"?

That if Trump wins I shine Dale's shoes and if he loses then nothing?

:lmao you're a fucking amateur

Name your bet, bitch. I've aleady given you multiple with favorable odds. You've specified nothing.

Just like your hero racist. All talk, no action.

Pussy

but if you want me to put money on it w/e, sure

Too stupid to read, Splits? Original bet was who wins presidency and you never replied. If you want me to put money on it, w/e, but I got no interest in you putting money on it - it's not an incentive to take from the poor :lol

Splits

06-08-2016, 10:45 PM

Too stupid to read, Splits? Original bet was who wins presidency and you never replied. If you want me to put money on it, w/e, but I got no interest in you putting money on it - it's not an incentive to take from the poor :lol

That makes no fucking sense.

Make me a bet if you're too pussy to accept the ones I've offered

Th'Pusher

06-08-2016, 10:46 PM

Too stupid to read, Splits? Original bet was who wins presidency and you never replied. If you want me to put money on it, w/e, but I got no interest in you putting money on it - it's not an incentive to take from the poor :lol

you'd be smarter to take the 5 points in PA. But it's become obvious you have no idea what you're doing. You best head back upstairs :lol

Mitch

06-08-2016, 10:48 PM

That makes no fucking sense.

Make me a bet if you're too pussy to accept the nes I've offered

It's like talking to a fucking child...

Here I'll simplify it for you

Trump wins - you shine cub's shoes for an indefinite amount of time

Hillary wins - what do you want, 500 dollars? fine :lol

Bet is off if for whatever reason either candidate is replaced during the GE.

Th'Pusher

06-08-2016, 10:51 PM

Reck

06-08-2016, 11:02 PM

It's like talking to a fucking child...

Here I'll simplify it for you

Trump wins - you shine cub's shoes for an indefinite amount of time

Hillary wins - what do you want, 500 dollars? fine :lol

Bet is off if for whatever reason either candidate is replaced during the GE.

Your bet doesn't make sense imo. If you win, the penalty is being Cully's shoe shiner? What does that even mean? Since you're already putting money if you lose, make Split give something that is attainable to you. Ie money.

500 bet. Loser pays it.

Do it.

Mitch

06-08-2016, 11:09 PM

Your bet doesn't make sense imo. If you win, the penalty is being Cully's shoe shiner? What does that even mean? Since you're already putting money if you lose, make Split give something that is attainable to you. Ie money.

500 bet. Loser pays it.

Do it.

Just means he'll be kissing Cub's ass for the rest of this website's life :lol

I'm not a gambling man, Reck. If splitsy wants money so bad for me to have a fun bet, no skin off my nose.

Splits

06-08-2016, 11:12 PM

Just means he'll be kissing Cub's ass for the rest of this website's life :lol

I'm not a gambling man, Reck. If splitsy wants money so bad for me to have a fun bet, no skin off my nose.

So you're basically saying you will welch no matter what.

You've got less dignity than Trump.

Pussy.

Mitch

06-08-2016, 11:16 PM

So you're basically saying you will welch no matter what.

You've got less dignity than Trump.

Pussy.

Can't make this shit up, tbh :lol

z0sa

06-09-2016, 06:48 AM

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/282782-trump-asked-for-meaningful-climate-change-policy-in-2009

Trump asked for 'meaningful' climate change policy in 2009

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 08:49 AM

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13335595_1009498859104960_2194546689465510949_n.jp g?oh=00fd11881116d896a39af496908d9c78&oe=57D66AD3

Holy Shit! :lol

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 09:02 AM

Hatch wants us to ‘be nice’ to flailing, amateurish Trash

“My experience with Donald Trump is he doesn’t have a prejudiced bone in his body,” Hatch said (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-republicans-congress-senate-223968).

Perhaps the senator was thinking of a different person named Donald Trump.

Hatch went on to make an appeal on behalf of his party’s presumptive presidential nominee. The L.A. Times reported (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-election-trump-20160607-snap-story.html):

Another top Republican, Sen. Orrin G. Hatch of Utah, sounded a similar plea for leniency, saying a person as new to politics as Trump will say “stupid” and “outrageous” things.

“Be nice to him,” said Hatch. “He’s a poor first-time candidate.”

The GOP senator may have been trying to be funny, but it prompted the Huffington Post’s Igor Bobic to note (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-preadolescent-child_us_5757147be4b0b60682df23d1),

“Donald Trump is the presumptive GOP nominee, but members of his own party keep excusing his outrageous behavior as if he’s a pre-adolescent whose cognitive functions and sense of right and wrong haven’t fully developed.”
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/hatch-wants-us-be-nice-flailing-amateurish-trump?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Repugs are SO fucked, it's hilarious.

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 09:07 AM

Iowa lawmaker has seen enough, gives up GOP allegiance

State Sen. David Johnson, one of the senior members of the Iowa Senate, says he has suspended his Republican Party membership to protest “the racist remarks and judicial jihad” by presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump. […]

“I will not stand silent :lol if the party of Lincoln :lol and the end of slavery :lol buckles under the racial bias of a bigot,” :lol :lol

Johnson said, referring to Trump.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/iowa-lawmaker-has-seen-enough-gives-gop-allegiance?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Repugs! :lol

Party of Lincoln! :lol

Iowa! :lol

Repugs and their base (now supporting racist, bigoted Trash) are not racist, bigoted for 60+ years! :lol

Party of Lincoln! :lol

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 09:12 AM

Laughing at Iowa :lol, how about this one:

"And when it comes to Donald Trump, there are invertebrates that have shown more spine than Sen. Charles Grassley." :lol

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/2016/06/08/editorial-grassley-ignores-judicial-crisis-and-trumps-racism/85549460/

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 09:27 AM

Donald Trump’s ‘huge and not widely understood’ disadvantage

money is proving to be one of Trump’s biggest pitfalls.

The Wall Street Journal reported (http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-is-getting-a-late-start-to-fundraising-1465341288) this week that Trump, who’s abandoned his promises about self-financing, finds himself “reliant on party fundraisers who haven’t all swung into action and aren’t always in sync with his campaign promises.”

The WSJ article quoted Fred Malek, the finance chairman of the Republican Governors Association and a leading fundraiser for past GOP nominees, describing Trump’s fundraising disadvantage as “huge and not widely understood.” Malek added, “Unless he’s willing to write a huge personal check, which is unlikely, I believe Trump will have a financial disparity of $300 million to $500 million.”

What about Trump’s boasts last summer that he’s prepared to spend $1 billion (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/15/politics/donald-trump-billions-campaign-spending/) on the presidential race? Those claims now appear ridiculous. He has no intention of writing that kind of check; few believe he’ll be able to raise anywhere close to that kind of money; and in an interview (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-08/trump-says-no-reason-to-raise-1-billion-for-campaign) with Bloomberg Politics yesterday, Trump downplayed the figure’s significance.

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump distanced himself from his own fundraising estimate of $1 billion, refusing to commit to collecting even half that amount, and saying his campaign didn’t need much money to win the White House.

Trump, who has held just two major fundraising events since agreeing three weeks ago to help the party raise cash, said he would rely instead more on his own star power as a former reality-TV personality to earn free media, and has no specific goals for how much money his campaign needs.

“There’s no reason to raise that,” Trump told Bloomberg Politics about raising $1 billion. “I just don’t think I need nearly as much money as other people need because I get so much publicity. I get so many invitations to be on television. I get so many interviews, if I want them.”

If only it were that simple.

When Hillary Clinton and her allies raise money for the general election, much of the money will go towards campaign advertising – which means they’ll pick the issues, they’ll control the message, they’ll target the audience, and they’ll manage their own calendar.

When Donald Trump relies on his “star power as a former reality-TV personality to earn free media,” he’s referring to news interviews – in which media professionals pick the issues and press the Republican candidate to explain and/or defend himself. If recent history is any guide, Trump has an unfortunate habit of making problematic comments during many of these interviews, which creates a controversy he and his campaign have to spend days dealing with.

Postscript: Just as an aside, now that Trump is raising money from GOP mega-donors, he looks an awful lot like his former Republican rivals whom he condemned as “puppets” of moneyed interests.

Asked recently for an explanation, he said this money is only going to the Republican Party, not his campaign. For the record, this is demonstrably untrue (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2016/05/24/donald-trump-self-funding_n_10120078.html).

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/donald-trumps-huge-and-not-widely-understood-disadvantage?cid=sm_fb_maddow

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 09:39 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkVEuZuVAAAQVfh.jpg

https://twitter.com/JackPMoore/status/740074838161686529/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw (https://twitter.com/JackPMoore/status/740074838161686529/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Smart People LAFFING at the Klown of fake skin, fake hair, but TRUE pot belly

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 12:47 PM

McConnell tries teaching someone to ‘act’ like a candidate

Watching Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) talk about Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, it occurred to me we’re all stuck in one long, occasionally excruciating episode of “Faking It” – better known as the 2016 presidential election.

Consider this comment (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1606/08/ebo.01.html) from McConnell on CNN yesterday:

“We have an obligation here in 2016 to see if we can turn this country around. :lol

And the primary voters have selected Donald Trump to be the change agent, and what

we’re trying to do is to get him to act and speak like a serious presidential candidate.” :lol Holy Shit! :lol

Note, it goes without saying – in McConnell’s case, literally – that Donald Trump isn’t a serious presidential candidate. He’s not going to become a serious presidential candidate. He will never be a serious presidential candidate.

But what Republican officials are “trying to do is to get him to act and speak like a serious presidential candidate.”

In other words, in this elaborate episode of “Faking It,” GOP officials are the coaches putting an amateur through a crash course before he has to compete with an actual presidential candidate who knows what she’s talking about.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/mcconnell-tries-teaching-someone-act-candidate?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Quetzal-X

06-09-2016, 12:50 PM

THANKS WWE!!!

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 01:32 PM

Trash (purposely) attracts white supremacists like a turd attracts flies and maggots

Grand Dragon Defends Trump's Judge Attacks By Blaming 'Jewish' Media

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/david-duke-defends-trump-curiel?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

CosmicCowboy

06-09-2016, 02:23 PM

Reck

06-09-2016, 05:26 PM

Delete Your account.

Guy meltdowns. :lol

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 05:41 PM

No one but Bookaki gives a fuck what some nobody KKK white trash says.

Trash attracts racists and bigots because he BLATANTLY is appealing to them (no dog whistling like your establishment Repugs)

RandomGuy

06-09-2016, 05:51 PM

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13335595_1009498859104960_2194546689465510949_n.jp g?oh=00fd11881116d896a39af496908d9c78&oe=57D66AD3

Holy Shit! :lol

Ok, that's funny.

RandomGuy

06-09-2016, 05:52 PM

No one but Bookaki gives a fuck what some nobody KKK white trash says.

I don't, but complaining about "the media"... that sounds oddly familiar... where I have heard that one...?

RandomGuy

06-09-2016, 05:59 PM

The thing that is about ready to be pounded on is how Trump will disentangle himself from his business.

That shit will get real now that the gloves are off, and people start digging.

Trump is going to be squealing about being treated unfairly. Dude has no idea what is about to happen to him.

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/09/481351291/if-elected-president-would-trump-put-his-investments-in-a-blind-trust

He is going to be hammered over conflicts of interest, in a way that will completely bury any coverage over Hillary's emails, and make that look minor in comparison.

As a president you can put your money into a blind trust, where you hire someone to manage it, but don't know what it is invested in, just minimal information about the returns.

But you can't do that with real estate. You know where the hotels and golf courses are.

The fact that Trump hasn't released his tax returns... will get hammered on similarly.

I have little doubt that if he DOES release his tax returns, every single dodgy gambit buried in that will be uncovered, and the fucker knows it.

Which is why I am going to guess that he won't do it, no matter what the pressure to do so is.

So that will be hammered, and hammered, and hammered.

I can't wait to see him squirm, and then whine and complain.

rmt

06-09-2016, 06:05 PM

Delete Your account.

Guy meltdowns. :lol

One would think she'd avoid ever using the word "delete" - she's just out of touch.

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 06:09 PM

"people start digging."

start? :lol

Hillary's oppo people have certainly dug up all the shit, the scams, the business failures, the wife raping, the screwing his wife(s) out of divorce $Ms, etc, etc. going back a couple decades, just like Trash blames Hillary for enabling Slick Willie getting his willie slicked 20 years ago, blames Hillary for murdering Vince Foster, etc, etc.

Reck

06-09-2016, 06:29 PM

One would think she'd avoid ever using the word "delete" - she's just out of touch.

She followed through. She deleted. He needs to follow suit and delete his twitter because he's really bad at it. Most of his tweet backfire like no one's business.

Reck

06-09-2016, 06:36 PM

Elizabeth Warren destroying Trump and the whole goddamn GOP. :lmao

angrydude

06-09-2016, 07:45 PM

Elizabeth Warren destroying Trump and the whole goddamn GOP. :lmao

Elizabeth Warren's twitter 11 page twitter rants aren't interesting or impressive to anyone who already isn't in the bag for Hillary.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Reck

06-09-2016, 07:58 PM

Elizabeth Warren's twitter 11 page twitter rants aren't interesting or impressive to anyone who already isn't in the bag for Hillary.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

More than twitter pal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzLMf6QGONQ

GOP having to deal with Trump. :lol

boutons_deux

06-09-2016, 08:08 PM

Elizabeth Warren's twitter 11 page twitter rants aren't interesting or impressive to anyone who already isn't in the bag for Hillary.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

she's not comedian.

She's a destroyer of Trash and all you rightwingnutjobs, and the totally destructive, retrograde, nasty assholes you elect.

angrydude

06-09-2016, 08:25 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqPt7cBhDqs

So pretty much she's this but a little more sophisticated.

CosmicCowboy

06-10-2016, 06:33 AM

Elizabeth Warren is irrelevant.

The Clintons don't want her stealing Shillary's thunder.

pgardn

06-10-2016, 09:07 AM

Elizabeth Warren is irrelevant.

.

No she is not. This is the first salvo in bring back the Bernie vote. And if this works, Trump gets thoroughly trounced.

CosmicCowboy

06-10-2016, 09:14 AM

No she is not. This is the first salvo in bring back the Bernie vote. And if this works, Trump gets thoroughly trounced.

If someone cares what Elizabeth Warren says they are already voting for Hillary anyway.

She is irrelevant in that she is just one more endorsement. Big deal.

No way Hillary chooses her as VP and she will be too old in 20 or 24 to run for President.

DMX7

06-10-2016, 09:31 AM

She is irrelevant in that she is just one more endorsement. Big deal.

No way Hillary chooses her as VP and she will be too old in 20 or 24 to run for President.

Is anyone really surprised at this endorsement? And I agree with the second point.

CosmicCowboy

06-10-2016, 09:48 AM

No she is not. This is the first salvo in bring back the Bernie vote. And if this works, Trump gets thoroughly trounced.

You have to be a political junkie to even know who Elizabeth Warren is.

Most of the Berners are too unsophisticated to know or care what she says.

Th'Pusher

06-10-2016, 09:56 AM

You have to be a political junkie to even know who Elizabeth Warren is.

Most of the Berners are too unsophisticated to know or care what she says.

You should look at her social media feeds. She was getting blasted by the Bernie or bust crew after the endorsement.

The reality is that outside of Bernie, she represents the progressive left and I wouldn't consider this endorsement meaningless.

Trill Clinton

06-10-2016, 10:13 AM

You have to be a political junkie to even know who Elizabeth Warren is.

Most of the Berners are too unsophisticated to know or care what she says.

damn you've been defending trump harder than anyone here, including hater. i thought you didn't like the guy?

boutons_deux

06-10-2016, 10:19 AM

Repugs are so fucked :lol

Rubio makes a powerful case against Trump (while endorsing him)

About a month ago, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) was reminded that during his failed presidential campaign, he told voters that Donald Trump shouldn’t be given access to nuclear codes because he lacked the necessary judgment and temperament. “I stand by the things that I said,” Rubio replied (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/10/marco_rubio_will_support_trump_but_still_doesn_t_t hink_he_should_have_nuclear.html), shortly before saying he’ll support Trump’s candidacy anyway.

Yesterday, the Weekly Standard’s John McCormack talked to the Florida senator about the same issue, and received a very similar response (http://www.weeklystandard.com/rubio-i-still-believe-trump-cant-be-trusted-with-americas-nuclear-weapons-codes/article/2002759).

One month after announcing his support for Donald Trump, Marco Rubio still believes that the presumptive GOP nominee is unfit to be commander-in-chief. “I stand by everything I said during the campaign,” the Florida senator told THE WEEKLY STANDARD on Thursday when asked if he still believes Trump cannot be trusted with access to the country’s nuclear weapons codes.

During the campaign, Rubio said that Trump was “dangerous” and that we must not hand “the nuclear codes of the United States to an erratic individual.”

Rubio doesn’t seem to understand why this posture is untenable.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/rubio-makes-powerful-case-against-trump-while-endorsing-him?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Repugs are so fucked :lol

boutons_deux

06-10-2016, 10:27 AM

Maybe Trash studied Campaign Management 101 at Trash U

Donald J. Trump has hired a new pollster to help him capture an elusive Republican victory in New York, his home state, two people briefed on the move said.

The pollster, John McLaughlin, will be focusing exclusively on New York, polling to determine what type of climb Mr. Trump would face in a state that hasn’t voted for a Republican in a presidential race since Ronald Reagan in 1984.

Though recent polls show Hillary Clinton leading Trump in hypothetical match-ups in the Empire State, the Times article added that the Republican is nevertheless “adamant” about winning New York. :lol

Failed New York gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino, Trump’s campaign’s co-chair in the state, told CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/09/politics/donald-trump-ground-game/index.html) the campaign will prevail by “blanketing the upstate region with signs and bumper stickers.” :lol Paladino lost in 2010 by 20+ points. GREAT campaigner :lol

Republican officials in North Carolina and Michigan are “yet to hear from” anyone with the Trump campaign, and

the presumptive GOP nominee “doesn’t have so much as a state director” in battlegrounds such as Ohio and Colorado.

The Trump campaign has real financial problems (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/donald-trumps-huge-and-not-widely-understood-disadvantage) as the general election gets underway, and what limited resources he has, the candidate wants to invest in things like New York polling – as if this is a state that’s within reach.
NBC News’ Benjy Sarlin, Katy Tur, and Ali Vitali had a great report (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/team-trump-struggles-dysfunction-leaderless-amateurism) this week that Trump “is a candidate without a campaign,” and it’s a problem that’s getting worse, not better.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maybe-trump-studied-campaign-management-101-trump-u?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Repugs are so fucked! :lol

boutons_deux

06-10-2016, 10:33 AM

Can Trash lose the general 30% - 70%?

I don't think the Repugs will pull dirty convention tricks to nominate some non-Trash, because they wouldn't have ANY campaign machinery in place.

The VRWC billionaires, BigCorp, etc will yield the WH, while spending heavily on Congressional and state elections, where they can do much more damage to America.

CosmicCowboy

06-10-2016, 11:07 AM

damn you've been defending trump harder than anyone here, including hater. i thought you didn't like the guy?

How is that defending Trump? He wasn't even mentioned.

Thats just fucking dumb.

boutons_deux

06-10-2016, 11:12 AM

‘Deadbeat Donald’ caught refusing to pay his bills

The front page of USA Today’s print edition features an all-caps, above-the-fold headline that Republicans probably didn’t want to see: “Trump’s Trail Of Unpaid Bills.” And while the headline is rough, the article (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/) hits like a sledgehammer.

During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah’s at Trump Plaza.

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward’s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort’s builder.

Edward’s son, Paul, who was the firm’s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason: the money never came. “That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company… which has been around since my grandfather,” he said.

USA Today recently broke some news (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/), noting that Trump and his business enterprises have been involved in “at least 3,500 legal actions in federal and state courts during the past three decades.” But this new report goes one step further, noting

much of the litigation involves ordinary Americans – mechanics, plumbers, painters, waiters, dishwashers, etc. – who sent Trump bills for completed work, and the New York Republican simply refused to pay.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/deadbeat-donald-caught-refusing-pay-his-bills?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Repugs should love Trash, as their man to default on the US Treasury bonds, on the national debt.

Trill Clinton

06-10-2016, 11:26 AM

How is that defending Trump? He wasn't even mentioned.

Thats just fucking dumb.

is this not the trump thread? did elizabeth warren not just eviscerate trump yesterday? you downplayed her as a threat in defense of trump. you're dumb.

CosmicCowboy

06-10-2016, 11:29 AM

is this not the trump thread? did elizabeth warren not just eviscerate trump yesterday? you downplayed her as a threat in defense of trump. you're dumb.

Dwnplay? :lmao

I simply commented that she is irrelevant.

Splits

06-10-2016, 01:14 PM

Again with the straw man, Splits? I said special occasions, not victory speeches - winning the final set of primaries is a special occasion as is his AIPAC, foreign policy and energy speeches. You're starting to sound like Botox Deuce, tbh :lol

:lmao he just read another shitty speech he didn't write off a teleprompter at that "special occasion" known as the "Faith and Freedom" conference. That's his only two speeches in the last four days.

That pussy has been NEUTERED by the establishment and I nailed your ass to the tree of woe again :lol Just can't make this shit up

boutons_deux

06-10-2016, 07:01 PM

The GOP Is Being Run By A Six Year Old As Trump Announces He’s Not Going To Have Policies

Donald Trump has announced that he thinks policies are a stupid waste, so he is not going to have any policies in his presidential campaign.

According to Time (http://time.com/trump-clinton-mismatch/):

For Trump, the idea of hiring an aide whom he might never meet is a recipe for waste.

“Hillary’s campaign is crazy,” he continued.

“I look at her staffing, and I mean she’s got the United States government there.”

He even mocks her focus on putting out so many policy proposals, a longtime tradition for major party nominees.

“She’s got people that sit in cubicles writing policy all day. Nothing’s ever going to happen. It’s just a waste of paper.”

(The Clinton campaign counts that paper as a point of pride: 73,645 words of policy and counting.)

According to Trump, it is crazy for a person who is running for president to tell the voters what they are going to do by having policies and plans to deal with problems.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/10/gop-run-year-trump-announces-policies.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/10/gop-run-year-trump-announces-policies.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

Splits

06-10-2016, 07:36 PM

:lol only 2k in a 12 stadium for a friday night Trump rally in GOP hotbed Richmond, VA

FuzzyLumpkins

06-10-2016, 07:45 PM

If someone cares what Elizabeth Warren says they are already voting for Hillary anyway.

She is irrelevant in that she is just one more endorsement. Big deal.

No way Hillary chooses her as VP and she will be too old in 20 or 24 to run for President.

I care what Warren says and I am still not voting for Hillary.

This where your narcissism works against you. While what you say may be or may not true with the old fucks out there such as yourself, Warren like Bernie is hugely popular amongst young voters. This is well documented and you're so pigheaded you cannot see it.

You don't matter in the larger scale. Very few people do. Warren does though.

boutons_deux

06-10-2016, 07:47 PM

Repugs are so fucked, and it's only getting started. :lol

Cleveland! :lol

FuzzyLumpkins

06-10-2016, 07:48 PM

How is that defending Trump? He wasn't even mentioned.

Thats just fucking dumb.

When you attack someone who is attacking someone else that is defending someone. You have heard to cliche 'the best defense is a good offense' right, pedobear?

I guess this is the mental gymnastics you have to go through to not think attacking Hastert's victims/accusers is defending Hastert. You probably think rape shield laws are a bad idea too.

boutons_deux

06-10-2016, 08:12 PM

RNC keeps its presidential candidate under an online bushel

how weird it is that the RNC’s homepage, a month after the party named Donald Trump the presumptive Republican nominee, included literally zero references to Trump’s candidacy. This week, TPM’s Josh Marshall noted (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/wow-she-s-right) the same thing.

There does not seem to be any mention of Donald Trump on the official Republican Party website, gop.com. Hillary is there. Bernie is there. George H.W.Bush is there. Reagan is there. Reagan/Bush. Lincoln is there. No Trump anywhere. Not on the blog, signups. Not anywhere that I could find.

I checked again this morning, assuming this oversight would be quickly fixed, if only to avoid embarrassment, but there’s still nothing (https://gop.com/). I found this (https://gop.com/take-back-the-white-house/) “Take Back The White House” page in which the RNC touts “our presidential candidates” – as if there were still several Republican contenders – but literally no references to Donald Trump specifically.

The RNC’s homepage has two pictures of Hillary Clinton, but zero of Trump. Click on the “View All Articles” link for the latest RNC blog posts and press releases, and you’ll find plenty of content, but of the top 20 items, 19 attacked Hillary Clinton, while one attacked President Obama.

Here, too, there wasn’t a single Trump mention.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/rnc-keeps-its-presidential-candidate-under-online-bushel?cid=sm_fb_maddow

boutons_deux

06-10-2016, 08:20 PM

McConnell agrees Trump’s ignorance is a problem

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Thursday that Donald Trump needs to pick an experienced running mate because “he doesn’t know a lot about the issues” and strongly urged him to change course on his rhetoric. […]

“He needs someone highly experienced and very knowledgeable because it’s pretty obvious he doesn’t know a lot about the issues,” McConnell said. “You see that in the debates in which he’s participated.”

McConnell went on to say that he’s urged Trump to demonstrate “the seriousness of purpose that is required to be president of the United States.” Suggesting the presidential hopeful has not yet met this threshold, the senator added, “We’ll see whether that’s something he’s capable of doing.”

Could there be a more direct validation of the post-policy thesis than this? McConnell freely admits that his party’s presidential candidate is ignorant on matters of public policy and hasn’t demonstrated the necessary seriousness of purpose – but the senator nevertheless wants this man in the Oval Office, making life-and-death decisions, and leading the free world.

I half-expect McConnell to start telling reporters, “Qualified, schmalifed. As long as he has an ‘R’ after his name, I don’t care.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/mcconnell-agrees-trumps-ignorance-problem?cid=sm_fb_maddow

As if Bitch McConnell and the Repugs gave the tiniest shit about "governing" :lol

hitmanyr2k

06-11-2016, 07:55 AM

The Trump campaign has real financial problems (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/donald-trumps-huge-and-not-widely-understood-disadvantage) as the general election gets underway, and what limited resources he has, the candidate wants to invest in things like New York polling – as if this is a state that’s within reach.

I keep hearing Trump's campaign is having cashflow issues. Wasn't this guy saying he's worth billions and is self-funding his campaign so he's not beholden to any campaign donors who want something for their money? I know Trump lies through his teeth and exaggerates everything but how much liquidity does he truly have?

florige

06-11-2016, 11:00 AM

rmt

06-11-2016, 12:51 PM

I keep hearing Trump's campaign is having cashflow issues. Wasn't this guy saying he's worth billions and is self-funding his campaign so he's not beholden to any campaign donors who want something for their money? I know Trump lies through his teeth and exaggerates everything but how much liquidity does he truly have?

Hillary is aiming for $2 billion. Nobody expects Trump to self-fund the general election campaign and compete with that. He won the primaries on his own money, but the general election should be the responsibility of the whole party. Sounds like the big donors at Romney's fundraiser are griping - I can see why - Trump intends to shake things up in Washington if elected and they don't want that. IMO, it's terrible the way Romney is going on about Trump - if you don't like him, keep quiet, don't sabotage any chance he and the republican party might have of competing. Sour grapes, if you ask me - wish he had been this vocal and fighting against Obama.

CosmicCowboy

06-11-2016, 01:19 PM

I think political ads have lost their effectiveness, especially negative ones. By November 8 we will all be sick of them.

CosmicCowboy

06-11-2016, 01:24 PM

When you attack someone who is attacking someone else that is defending someone. You have heard to cliche 'the best defense is a good offense' right, pedobear?

I guess this is the mental gymnastics you have to go through to not think attacking Hastert's victims/accusers is defending Hastert. You probably think rape shield laws are a bad idea too.

That's just dumb. Life is not black and white. Your juvenile and oversimplistic world view just shows your ignorance, loser.

djohn2oo8

06-11-2016, 01:32 PM

I think political ads have lost their effectiveness, especially negative ones. By November 8 we will all be sick of them.
No they haven't. They are geared toward the uninformed and there are plenty of uninformed people in the country

CosmicCowboy

06-11-2016, 01:35 PM

No they haven't. They are geared toward the uninformed and there are plenty of uninformed people in the country

even the majority of the uninformed DVR and skip commercials.

SpursforSix

06-11-2016, 01:42 PM

even the majority of the uninformed DVR and skip commercials.

The majority? Where do you get that?

CosmicCowboy

06-11-2016, 01:44 PM

The majority? Where do you get that?

fuck. i'm freaking old and understand the technology to skip commercials. Are you saying you don't?

SpursforSix

06-11-2016, 05:32 PM

fuck. i'm freaking old and understand the technology to skip commercials. Are you saying you don't?

Yeah. I understand it. Your assumption was that the majority of the uninformed DVR all their shows. I'd be surprised if that's the case.

FuzzyLumpkins

06-11-2016, 06:21 PM

That's just dumb. Life is not black and white. Your juvenile and oversimplistic world view just shows your ignorance, loser.

:lol

You said that you set expectations for others based on yourself and asked what other way there was. It's actually a quite common worldview particularly amongst men. Remember when I pointed out how I did not think that way? Now take all of what you just tried to put on me and think about it some more, pedobear.

Further, if you are going to make that argument it helps to actually state an alternate explanation for your insisting that Hastert's victims consented.

boutons_deux

06-12-2016, 07:06 AM

One Moment At Trump’s Florida Rally Showed Republican Racism At It’s Misplaced Worst

The crowd chanted, "build that wall," Donald Trump went over and hugged an American flag, and the xenophobic and racist impulses of the Republican Party were on full display.

Republicans have substituted xenophobia for patriotism, and their racist warping of everything that this country is supposed to stand for was captured in a single moment while Donald Trump spoke in Florida.

Trump and his supporters represent a knee-jerk reaction to the changing of America.

They represent a reaction against change and diversification, and the desperate pleas for a wall were symptomatic of their desire to block progress in our country.

The xenophobic bigotry and racism that is the beating heart of the Republican Party have never been clearly captured than when Trump hugged the American flag in Tampa.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/11/moment-trumps-florida-rally-showed-republican-racism-misplaced-worst.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

DMX7

06-12-2016, 08:15 AM

741965111968075776

djohn2oo8

06-12-2016, 08:20 AM

741965111968075776

Riveting information Donald.

DMX7

06-12-2016, 08:23 AM

Riveting information Donald.

"possible terrorism" = possible opportunity

741983436865306627

"Moch" :lol

Winehole23

06-12-2016, 09:17 AM

boutons_deux

06-12-2016, 09:22 AM

posters and politicians scrambling to prop themselves up on dead bodies to make political hay while the bodies are still warm and the investigation barely underway, is normal.

it's also disgraceful, foolish and unprincipled.

grace and (moral) principles DO NOT APPLY in politics and business.

Make money and get elected (to make money), by any means, are the economic, venal principles for business and politics.

boutons_deux

06-13-2016, 05:35 AM

How Trump Could Help Clinton Win Black Voters At Obama Levels (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/tpm-news/~3/9i-RE15ePKk/hillary-clinton-reaches-for-obama-s-electoral-victory-with-african-americans)

by Lauren Fox

Presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton was always expected to do well with African American voters, but Donald Trump may help her do even better.

"I think Trump helps drive black voter turn out. I really do," says Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) "He has created more unforced errors than any politician I've ever seen...People question his judgement."

Pollsters, strategists and Democratic politicians are beginning to forsee a November election where Trump's divisive rhetoric drives black voters to the polls for Clinton in the same numbers they came out for Obama, better enabling her to hold onto rust belt states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan where Trump is betting on white working class voters to win the White House.

"Any doubts about black turnout that we had, Donald Trump has more than compensated for the absence of Obama," Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) told TPM. "I think Donald Trump has done more for Democrats than any one person I know in recent history."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/hillary-clinton-reaches-for-obama-s-electoral-victory-with-african-americans?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

boutons_deux

06-13-2016, 06:41 AM

Absolute H I L A R I T Y !

US election: 50 Trump supporters explain why

"Donald Trump is very real and very sincere. We're tired of being cheated. The more they try to attack him, the more we love him." - Sandra Stone, Florida, March 2016

"The other politicians are controlled by their handlers. He's not." - Vern Engel, Kansas City, August 2015

"He's brought energy back to the people. They want somebody that's not connected with the government." Linda Callahan, Florida, November 2015

They like that 'he tells it like it is'

"I backed Trump from the beginning. Because he calls things out. He does not allow lies to live. He just exposes things. Pastors sometimes need to be politically correct, and Donald Trump is not politically correct, and I love that about him" - Crystal Myers, California, May 2016
"He's outspoken. Other candidates wouldn't tell you how it is, but he does." - Betty Tully, August 2015

"I like that he's over the top. My president needs bravado... somebody who is big and loud, strong and powerful." - Victoria Wilen, Orlando, Florida, November 2015

"He doesn't hold back. You get what he really believes in, even if everything that he says isn't what is the right thing exactly." - Nicholas Poucher, Florida, December 2015

"Passionate, driven, confident, motivated….I think I've seen him really successful as a businessman, so I'd like to see how he'd be as a leader of the United States." Taylar Martin, a 19-year-old student at American University in Washington DC.

"I think he's really someone who understands economics and international finance on a global level in many ways beyond just theory but real first-hand experience " - Issac Eves, Florida, March 2016

"He has so much money but he's waking up everything morning to campaign. He deeply cares about America," John Friedlander, Washington DC, May 2016

"He's the epitome of a business success... he's got contacts in all these countries." John Hikel, New Hampshire, January 2016

"We need to close the borders... It has to be done the right way and they can't just come into our country and expect us to take care of them, take our jobs, and then for us to have to support them, and all the things America has to do to help them out.

"That's not being ugly about anybody or not liking people or not wanting to help people. It's just that it needs to be done the right way. We have so many people in our country that we need to help as well." - Peggy Smith Shortt, South Carolina, May 2016

"My ancestors were immigrants from Ireland in the 1700's, and I support legal immigration in the way our forefathers intended it to be. The current immigration system is broken and millions are taking advantage of it, while having a negative impact on the entire US." - Nascar driver David Ragan, May 2016

"Trump has instilled hope in people. If he does what he says he's gonna do, we would be less fearful. We fear the federal government very much." Robert Sandifer, South Carolina, January 2016

"In the bigger picture he does have a lot to learn, but we all know he's an excellent manager and very, very bright. I have faith that he will learn and develop the policies that will make America the superpower that we want it to be." - Kathy Baker, Virginia, December 2015

"I don't see that America [of 30 years ago] anymore. So when Trump says make America great again, I fully agree with him." - Jesse Singh, Maryland, March 2016

"I'm 66 years old. Our country is in trouble and we need to do something." - Mary Faulk, Virginia, December 2015

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36253275

:lol

I bet nearly everyone of these deluded fools voted in the Repug corporate whose who fucked up Congress, SCOTUS, and red/slave states, and they'll keep voting them in.

Fabbs

06-13-2016, 09:23 AM

I'm sure Donnys banning Muzlims from entering the US will stop the bad ones from coming in.

Orlando shooter born in New York.

DMX7

06-13-2016, 10:31 AM

I'm sure Donnys banning Muzlims from entering the US will stop the bad ones from coming in.

Orlando shooter born in New York.

He visited Saudi Arabia... and may not have been let back in under Trump. Trump is still wrong though.

Fabbs

06-13-2016, 10:34 AM

He visited Saudi Arabia... and may not have been let back in under Trump. Trump is still wrong though.
I do agree with the statement that non radical Muzz's are not doing enough to turn in suspected (known) terrorists / terrorist leanings.

Pelicans78

06-13-2016, 10:35 AM

He visited Saudi Arabia... and may not have been let back in under Trump. Trump is still wrong though.

Gonna be hard to keep out all the Muslims who do the pilgrimage to Mecca.

Pelicans78

06-13-2016, 10:36 AM

I do agree with the statement that non radical Muzz's are not doing enough to turn in suspected (known) terrorists / terrorist leanings.

It's really some of the family members who are responsible for that.

DMX7

06-13-2016, 10:38 AM

I do agree with the statement that non radical Muzz's are not doing enough to turn in suspected (known) terrorists / terrorist leanings.

I feel the same way. It's absolutely not their fault... but that doesn't mean that the community shouldn't be doing more to turn in AND discourage theses terrorists from doing what they're doing.

Pelicans78

06-13-2016, 11:09 AM

I feel the same way. It's absolutely not their fault... but that doesn't mean that the community shouldn't be doing more to turn in AND discourage theses terrorists from doing what they're doing.

They actually have to know which ones are the terrorists. I'm sure some of the family members know and some communities have turned in people. It's really hard to know who is a terrorist unless they openly talk about it.

Fabbs

06-13-2016, 11:10 AM

It's really some of the family members who are responsible for that.
Is this part of the bullshit that exists in other cultures that ANY kind of reporting is *snitching*?

Pelicans78

06-13-2016, 11:12 AM

Is this part of the bullshit that exists in other cultures that ANY kind of reporting is *snitching*?

Probably just family members not wanting to report other family members and put them in Cuba forever.

boutons_deux

06-13-2016, 11:18 AM

Trash is a total turd

“He doesn’t get it or he gets it better than anybody understands. It’s one or the other,” Trump said of Obama on “Fox & Friends,” speaking on the phone. “And either one is unacceptable.” […]

And Trump again implied that the president was not a trustworthy leader when it comes to fighting terrorism.

“We’re led by a man who is a very – look, we’re led by a man that either is, is not tough, not smart, or he’s got something else in mind,”

Trump said.

“And the something else in mind, you know, people can’t believe it. People cannot – they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the ways he acts and can’t even mention the words ‘radical Islamic terrorism.’ There’s something going on. It’s inconceivable.”

There isn’t much in the way of ambiguity here. As Politico’s Blake Hounshell summarized (https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/742330526737043456),

“This morning, Trump implied President Obama is a terrorist sympathizer.” Politico’s Jake Sherman added (https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/742327050237841408),

“The Republican Party’s nominee for president seems to be saying its possible the POTUS is in cahoots with terrorists.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-suggests-president-obama-may-be-terrorist-sympathizer?cid=sm_fb_maddow

ducks

06-13-2016, 12:29 PM

people saying trump will not win the Mexican vote because they do not like the wall are being racist what they are saying is they do not agree with being law abiding people because of their heritage NOT TRUMP!

rmt

06-13-2016, 01:04 PM

spurraider21

06-13-2016, 03:22 PM

“This morning, Trump implied President Obama is a terrorist sympathizer.” Politico’s Jake Sherman added (https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/742327050237841408), “The Republican Party’s nominee for president seems to be saying its possible the POTUS is in cahoots with terrorists.”http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-suggests-president-obama-may-be-terrorist-sympathizer?cid=sm_fb_maddow:lmao maddow
:lmao the gullible sheep that buy this crap

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 04:36 PM

:lmao maddow
:lmao the gullible sheep that buy this crap

What do you think Trump was implying?

boutons_deux

06-13-2016, 04:51 PM

:lmao maddow
:lmao the gullible sheep that buy this crap

so you deny that Trump said that?

CosmicCowboy

06-13-2016, 04:59 PM

What do you think Trump was implying?

Personally I don't think he was implying Obama was a Muslim.

One does, however, tend to wonder why Obama refuses to use the terms Jihadi or radicalized Muslim. This IS the same guy that called the fort Hood shooting "workplace violence".

If he thinks it will make the radicalized Muslims "angry" I propose that blowing their ass up with drones probably bothers them more.

boutons_deux

06-13-2016, 05:11 PM

One does, however, tend to wonder why Obama refuses to use the terms Jihadi or radicalized Muslim.

Trash, as the journalists said, CLEARLY suggested that Obama was a terrorist sympathizer/protector/secret Muslim, aligning himself with the birther crowd, with the Obama-is-a-Muslim crowd, and y'alls entire knitter hatin right wing media slime machine.

6M Muslims in USA. Obama is President of every one of them. The crimes terrorists commit in the name of Muslim extremism, like ISIS/AQ/etc, that has been condemned repeatedly by mainstream Muslim scholars, make them above all criminals and terrorists, violating Muslim religion.

But I realize this is too fine a point for you rednecks and knitter haters.

CosmicCowboy

06-13-2016, 05:19 PM

Trash, as the journalists said, CLEARLY suggested that Obama was a terrorist sympathizer/protector/secret Muslim, aligning himself with the birther crowd, with the Obama-is-a-Muslim crowd, and y'alls entire knitter hatin right wing media slime machine.

6M Muslims in USA. Obama is President of every one of them. The crimes terrorists commit in the name of Muslim extremism, like ISIS/AQ/etc, that has been condemned repeatedly by mainstream Muslim scholars, make them above all criminals and terrorists, violating Muslim religion.

But I realize this is too fine a point for you rednecks and knitter haters.

:lmao

you are such a brainwashed tool.

spurraider21

06-13-2016, 07:04 PM

What do you think Trump was implying?
That Obama is soft on isis. Not that he's "in cahoots" :lmao

boutons_deux

06-13-2016, 07:15 PM

That Obama is soft on isis. Not that he's "in cahoots" :lmao

bullshit. your rightwingnut birthers have been calling Obama a Kenyan Muslim for 8 years. Trash is dog whistling that EXACTLY.

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 07:15 PM

That Obama is soft on isis. Not that he's "in cahoots" :lmao
Hmm. I guess I'd have to question your reading comprehension skills if you think the below means Obama is soft on ISIS. Do you know what the words either and or mean? Not to mention he goes on to spell out the "something else on his mind" in vague terms "there is something else going on."

“We’re led by a man who is a very – look, we’re led by a man that either is, is not tough, not smart, or he’s got something else in mind,”Trump said.

“And the something else in mind, you know, people can’t believe it. People cannot – they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the ways he acts and can’t even mention the words ‘radical Islamic terrorism.’ There’s something going on. It’s inconceivable.”

z0sa

06-13-2016, 07:23 PM

Hmm. I guess I'd have to question your reading comprehension skills if you think the below means Obama is soft on ISIS. Do you know what the words either and or mean? Not to mention he goes on to spell out the "something else on his mind" in vague terms "there is something else going on."

You call it deliberately vague yet question other people's reading comprehension?

spurraider21

06-13-2016, 07:24 PM

Mocking my reading comprehension while misquoting a direct quote that you yourself quoted? :lol

"Not tough" was even part of the quote

spurraider21

06-13-2016, 07:26 PM

bullshit. your rightwingnut birthers have been calling Obama a Kenyan Muslim for 8 years. Trash is dog whistling that EXACTLY.
I'm neither right wing, nor a birther, nor have I claimed Barry is a Muslim.

CosmicCowboy

06-13-2016, 07:26 PM

C'mon guys.

In his own words he was raised as a muslim in Indonesia in his formative years.

I don't doubt he "converted" to Christianity later in life and hung out with "Got Damn America" Reverend Wright.

At the same time it can't help but influence and somewhat prejudice his world view on the Muslim faith.

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 07:32 PM

Mocking my reading comprehension while misquoting a direct quote that you yourself quoted? :lol

"Not tough" was even part of the quote

He said he's not tough, not smart, Or he's got something else on his mind. Then he proceeds to say what something else on his mind means. Do you understand what the word or means?

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 07:33 PM

Reck

06-13-2016, 07:45 PM

That Obama is soft on isis. Not that he's "in cahoots" :lmao

When Trump said this:

"Look, we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind," Trump said in a lengthy interview on Fox News early Monday morning. "And the something else in mind — you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."

I took that as Trump saying Obama was a muslim and that's why he doesn't A, use the word islamic terrorissm and B, doesn't want to "act" on them because he himself is a muslim.

If you look back at Trump's history with Obama is not hard to see a connection. He doesn't believe Obama was even born here after Obama showed the certificate. Guy thinks Obama is a certified muslim for god's sake.

Trump is on another level of stupid.

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 07:50 PM

When Trump said this:

I took that as Trump saying Obama was a muslim and that's why he doesn't A, use the word islamic terrorissm and B, doesn't want to "act" on them because he himself is a muslim.

If you look back at Trump's history with Obama is not hard to see a connection. He doesn't believe Obama was even born here after Obama showed the certificate. Guy thinks Obama is a certified muslim for god's sake.

Trump is on another level of stupid.

Yeah. Pretty much anyone with basic reading comprehension skills reads it that way.

z0sa

06-13-2016, 07:54 PM

Yeah. Pretty much anyone with basic reading comprehension skills reads it that way.

Actually, at this point more than a few people who laugh at Obama literally being Muslim find him a gigantic apologist and semen shielder. It is pretty much only neoliberals (outside of Islam proper) who rush to defend Muslims every time one or more of their radicals kill people. It is especially taking sone hoop jumping not to criticize any part of a faith which mass murders another neolib favorite, LGBTs.

spurraider21

06-13-2016, 08:00 PM

"something going on" imo is a reference to the general pc movement trump is always ranting about. The refusal to acknowledge/identify the enemy, etc. To trump that whole dynamic is inconceivable

Either way reck, suggesting Obama is a Muslim is a FAR cry from suggesting he's "in cahoots with terrorists"

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 08:00 PM

Actually, at this point more than a few people who laugh at Obama literally being Muslim find him a gigantic apologist and semen shielder. It is pretty much only neoliberals (outside of Islam proper) who rush to defend Muslims every time one or more of their radicals kill people. It is especially taking sone hoop jumping not to criticize any part of a faith which mass murders another neolib favorite, LGBTs.

What is your point? It's pretty obvious what trump said and it was not just "Obama isn't tough on ISIS", which is apparently what Spurraider read. I have no idea wtf you are talking about.

Spurminator

06-13-2016, 08:02 PM

It is pretty much only neoliberals (outside of Islam proper) who rush to defend Muslims every time one or more of their radicals kill people.

#distinctions

z0sa

06-13-2016, 08:07 PM

What is your point? It's pretty obvious what trump said and it was not just "Obama isn't tough on ISIS", which is apparently what Spurraider read. I have no idea wtf you are talking about.

That Obama refusing to lay any part of the blame on radical Islam precludes any real defense against Pulse or San Bernardino happening again. Attacking only gun laws when an admitted religious terrorist commits a crime is the epitome of intellectual dishonesty and only makes people distrust your intentions and or your iq.

z0sa

06-13-2016, 08:08 PM

#distinctions

Neoliberals and real progressives arent the same by any measure. You would know that if you asked the right questions, Avante.

boutons_deux

06-13-2016, 08:10 PM

That Obama refusing to lay any part of the blame on radical Islam precludes any real defense against Pulse or San Bernardino happening again. Attacking only gun laws when an admitted religious terrorist commits a crime is the epitome of intellectual dishonesty and only makes people distrust your intentions and or your iq.

you're full of shit.

Spurminator

06-13-2016, 08:11 PM

Neoliberals and real progressives arent the same by any measure. You would know that if you asked the right questions, Avante.

I don't know what you mean by that, I was just saying you seem to be having trouble with distinctions.

z0sa

06-13-2016, 08:13 PM

I don't know what you mean by that, I was just saying you seem to be having trouble with distinctions.

It no longer surprises me if you misunderstand and lie about me or my posts.

Spurminator

06-13-2016, 08:17 PM

It no longer surprises me if you misunderstand and lie about me or my posts.

You're easy to misunderstand. Have you read some of the stuff you've posted in the last hour? Have you been drinking?

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 08:20 PM

That Obama refusing to lay any part of the blame on radical Islam precludes any real defense against Pulse or San Bernardino happening again.

I think this quote from Obama directly contradicts this statement:

At the end of the day, this is something that we are going to have to grapple with -- making sure that even as we go after ISIL and other extremist organizations overseas, even as we hit their leadership, even as we go after their infrastructure, even as we take key personnel off the field, even as we disrupt external plots -- that one of the biggest challenges we are going to have is this kind of propaganda and perversions of Islam that you see generated on the Internet, and the capacity for that to seep into the minds of troubled individuals or weak individuals, and seeing them motivated then to take actions against people here in the United States and elsewhere in the world that are tragic. And so countering this extremist ideology is increasingly going to be just as important as making sure that we are disrupting more extensive plots engineered from the outside.

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 08:22 PM

Is it just the fact that he refers to it as a perversion of Islam as opposed to radical Islam that you take issue with zosa?

z0sa

06-13-2016, 08:25 PM

I think this quote from Obama directly contradicts this statement:

At the end of the day, this is something that we are going to have to grapple with -- making sure that even as we go after ISIL and other extremist organizations overseas, even as we hit their leadership, even as we go after their infrastructure, even as we take key personnel off the field, even as we disrupt external plots -- that one of the biggest challenges we are going to have is this kind of propaganda and perversions of Islam that you see generated on the Internet, and the capacity for that to seep into the minds of troubled individuals or weak individuals, and seeing them motivated then to take actions against people here in the United States and elsewhere in the world that are tragic. And so countering this extremist ideology is increasingly going to be just as important as making sure that we are disrupting more extensive plots engineered from the outside.

That's a confusing statement. It seems more to me that he is concerned mostly about countering internet propaganda from ISIS that reaches weak and temperamental conservative-minded Muslims. Like I've said multiple times now, ISIS is only one part of the equation. No one can even get past that one, though, so it doesn't surprise me everyone wants to conflate the two at every turn.

spurraider21

06-13-2016, 08:27 PM

Yeah I personally don't care about the 3 magic words as if it's "bippidy boppidy boo" that's going to suddenly weaken isis.

I'm just saying that's what trumps beef is regarding the "something else going on"... The culture where the president tries to tip toe around words out of fear of possibly offending people.

I also agree that it's pretty lame to nitpick between calling it a perversion instead of radical. Which is why it's so odd that Barry is playing around it so hard as though he's lost a bet and isn't allowed to utter the words. The wording is such an irrelevant issue that has blown up to a giant game of chicken that's distracting from the real issue

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 08:35 PM

That's a confusing statement. It seems more to me that he is concerned mostly about countering internet propaganda from ISIS that reaches weak and temperamental conservative-minded Muslims. Like I've said multiple times now, ISIS is only one part of the equation. No one can even get past that one, though, so it doesn't surprise me everyone wants to conflate the two at every turn.

That was an excerpt from a longer. I'm sorry you though it was confusing.

You're right in that Obama doesn't attribute this terrorism to radical Islam, but rather to a perversion of Islam. I'm fine with that distinction. I don't think that it in any way "precludes any real defense from Pulse or San Bernardino" as you suggest.

z0sa

06-13-2016, 08:36 PM

Is it just the fact that he refers to it as a perversion of Islam as opposed to radical Islam that you take issue with zosa?

Yes and no. it depends on "which" spectrum of Islam you're talking about. Conservative Islam encourages killing gays, encourages honor killings, encourages theocracy, encourages misogyny. More moderate and liberal Muslims do not see the need to follow these extreme practices, and thus would agree it is a "perversion."

What I want is some leadership that not only says extremists must be countered, but that we are not going to tolerate any religious sect which encourages or is even apathetic to unlawful behavior, or actively denies the rights of others. Not from a lawmaker standpoint, from a societal and cultural standpoint.

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 08:37 PM

spurraider21

06-13-2016, 08:48 PM

The only people making an issue of the wording are republicans making political hay while simultaneously blowing their dog whistles...
It ends up becoming a distraction for everybody. See: this thread.

It's stupid and just a game of chicken. Obama literally won't say it put of pride at this point or else trump can say "I told you so"

TheSanityAnnex

06-13-2016, 09:04 PM

It ends up becoming a distraction for everybody. See: this thread.

It's stupid and just a game of chicken. Obama literally won't say it put of pride at this point or else trump can say "I told you so"
Trump finally got Hillary to say it lol

pgardn

06-13-2016, 10:35 PM

Trump finally got Hillary to say it lol

This man is a Fckn lunatic or has stroked out. See his comments on Orlando #339 - 360

djohn2oo8

06-13-2016, 10:52 PM

Trump finally got Hillary to say it lol

Actually, because she said it, Trump or the GOP don't have an attacking point.

Th'Pusher

06-13-2016, 10:54 PM

Actually, because she said it, Trump or the GOP don't have an attacking point.

Neutered them early.

Reck

06-14-2016, 12:04 AM

Trump finally got Hillary to say it lol

“Whether you call it radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing,” Clinton told CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/13/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-orlando-attacks-reaction/).

“I’m happy to say either. But what I won’t do, because I think it is dangerous for our efforts to defeat this threat, is to demonize and demagogue and, you know, declare war on an entire religion. That plays right into ISIS’ hands.”

That reads differently.

spurraider21

06-14-2016, 12:08 AM

one thing i dont get is why clinton/obama have to constantly remind people that we aren't "declaring a war on an entire religion"

has any GOP candidate said otherwise? heck even dubya was adamant about not being at war against islam

TheSanityAnnex

06-14-2016, 12:08 AM

That reads differently.
Through your semen coated glasses, sure.

Reck

06-14-2016, 12:12 AM

Through your semen coated glasses, sure.

Pull a quote that says otherwise. Go.

TheSanityAnnex

06-14-2016, 12:24 AM

Pull a quote that says otherwise. Go.

“Whether you call it radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing, I’m happy to say either". Not only did Trump get her to say it but she's fucking happy to do so :rollin

z0sa

06-14-2016, 12:25 AM

Through your semen coated glasses, sure.

:lol

Reck

06-14-2016, 12:32 AM

Not only did Trump get her to say it but she's fucking happy to do so :rollin

Then you won't have a hard time pulling a direct quote of her saying it.

TheSanityAnnex

06-14-2016, 12:58 AM

Then you won't have a hard time pulling a direct quote of her saying it.Did you ha

boutons_deux

06-14-2016, 05:32 AM

has any GOP candidate said otherwise? heck even dubya was adamant about not being at war against islam

:lol Trash wants to ban ALL Muslims from entering USA, and 10Ms of you stupid Trash supports agree with him, esp you Christian Taliban.

Repugs HATE THE KNITTER so much they want to force their "boy" to speak exactly the words they dictate.

boutons_deux

06-14-2016, 07:40 AM

Trash: Let’s keep refugee kids out so they won’t ‘listen to the Internet and fall in love with ISIS’

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/trump-lets-keep-refugee-kids-out-so-they-wont-listen-to-the-internet-and-fall-in-love-with-isis/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux

06-14-2016, 07:55 AM

Here's a conservative politician dumping the Trash

Morning Joe panel declares Trump’s “treasonous” remarks about Obama should “disqualify him for presidency”

Trump accused a sitting president of being complicit in the murder of Americans — of committing a "treasonous act"

On MSNBC’s Morning Joe Tuesday, the panel discussed what they characterized as presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump’s “treasonous” remarks about President Barack Obama.

Co-host Joe Scarborough opened the segment by mocking Trump’s decision to revoke The Washington Post’s press credentials, comparing it to the Pope banning the Bible from church or Major League Baseball banning baseball bats from baseball stadiums.

He further noted that Trump made “a suggestion on a couple of channels” — referring to his appearances on both the TODAY show (http://www.salon.com/2016/06/13/watch_nbcs_savannah_guthrie_slams_trump_for_self_c ongratulatory_tweets_in_wake_of_orlando_massacre/) and Fox & Friends (http://www.salon.com/2016/06/13/watch_fox_friends_join_donald_trump_in_blaming_orl ando_massacre_on_political_correctness/) — that the president “was somehow implicated in these terror attacks, and then said, ‘Well, I’ll let people just try to figure out what I said.'”

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/14/watch_morning_joe_panel_declares_trumps_treasonous _remarks_about_obama_should_disqualify_him_for_pre sidency/

rmt

06-14-2016, 09:39 AM

:lol Trash wants to ban ALL Muslims from entering USA, and 10Ms of you stupid Trash supports agree with him, esp you Christian Taliban.

Repugs HATE THE KNITTER so much they want to force their "boy" to speak exactly the words they dictate.

He said in his speech yesterday, "The immigration laws of the United States give the president powers to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons. ... I would use this power to protect the American people. When I'm elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we fully understand how to end these threats" Trump said, adding that "we have no choice."

boutons_deux

06-14-2016, 10:05 AM

He said in his speech yesterday, "The immigration laws of the United States give the president powers to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons. ... I would use this power to protect the American people. When I'm elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we fully understand how to end these threats" Trump said, adding that "we have no choice."

See, your garden-variety Trash fellator is one ignorant, bigoted, hateful fucktard.

spurraider21

06-14-2016, 10:35 AM

hitmanyr2k

06-14-2016, 10:57 AM

rmt

06-14-2016, 12:09 PM

Yeah, that's going to stop home-grown terrorism.

Why let more possible/future terrorists into the country to overwhelm the FBI? Lots of other places on this planet they can accept immigration from.

djohn2oo8

06-14-2016, 12:09 PM

:lol Barry eviscerated Donny

boutons_deux

06-14-2016, 12:38 PM

I don't agree with his immigration proposal

what do you agree with?

and what do think his chances are of getting his fantasies implemented?

spurraider21

06-14-2016, 12:46 PM

what do you agree with?

and what do think his chances are of getting his fantasies implemented?
What do I agree with regarding trumps policies? Can't really think of any off the top of my head. He was the 2nd worst candidate on either side (only Carson was worse imo)

rmt

06-14-2016, 01:00 PM

what do you agree with?

and what do think his chances are of getting his fantasies implemented?

He won't ever get a ban on muslims, but he might stop the flow of refugees from countries with terrorist ties.

boutons_deux

06-14-2016, 01:06 PM

He won't ever get a ban on muslims, but he might stop the flow of refugees from countries with terrorist ties.

But Trash Supporter Agency says the watch list is full of errors, how would stopping terrorists from entire countries be any more accurate?

Stopping visitors from Saudi Arabia? From Egypt?

Splits

06-14-2016, 09:16 PM

742900858715820032

spurraider21

06-14-2016, 09:36 PM

who is jared yates sexton and why should anybody care

djohn2oo8

06-14-2016, 09:40 PM

who is jared yates sexton and why should anybody care
Why should anybody care about the hate Trump is inciting? Is that what you are asking?

boutons_deux

06-16-2016, 02:29 PM

Trump offers hilarious ‘proof’ to back up conspiracy theory

The day after the deadliest mass-shooting in American history, Donald Trump suggested to a national television audience that President Obama might be a terrorist sympathizer (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-suggests-president-obama-may-be-terrorist-sympathizer). Two days later, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee was even less subtle, declaring (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-accuses-obama-siding-us-enemies) that the president “continues to prioritize our enemy over … the American people.”

In an unexpected twist, Trump yesterday said he has proof to substantiate his ridiculous claims. TheWashington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-he-was-right-about-obama-and-terrorists-citing-questionable-2012-intelligence-cable/2016/06/15/2bf2666c-330d-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html):

Just two days after Donald Trump implied that President Obama sympathized with terrorists, provoking a backlash that included members of his own party, the presumed Republican presidential nominee declared himself “right,” based on a published report claiming administration “support” for the Islamic State.

In a post to his Twitter account early Wednesday, Trump said “Media fell all over themselves criticizing what Donald Trump ‘may have insinuated’ ” about Obama. “But he’s right,” it said, linking to a story published by the conservative website Breitbart News.

The problem, of course, is that Trump is accusing the war-time president of treason based on information he clearly doesn’t understand.

As ABC News reported (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-pushes-conspiracy-theory-obama-supports-isis/story?id=39877503) yesterday, Breitbart, a prominent right-wing website, relied on a memo that is “neither secret nor does it demonstrate the administration’s support for ISIS or any other policy.

Indeed, it’s a recently declassified and heavily redacted intelligence field report from August 2012 about the worsening security situation in Iraq…. Breitbart falsely concludes that because the memo mentions that al Qaeda in Iraq (a precursor to ISIS) is fighting against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, the Obama administration therefore supports ISIS.”

The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler added (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/06/16/trumps-bizarre-claim-that-the-administration-actively-supported-terror-groups/), “This is what happens when people with little understanding of policy or context choose to willfully misinterpret documents. This is a relatively unimportant memo, with little information not in newspapers at the time. Rather than showing that the Obama administration is supporting terror groups, the information in the memo demonstrates why the administration was so reluctant to back rebel groups in Syria, often to the annoyance of Republican hawks.”

But before just laughing this off as the latest nonsense from a ridiculous candidate, it’s worth appreciating what stories like these tell us.

A presumptive major-party nominee for the world’s most powerful job accused the president of treason.

That’s bonkers.

Facing criticism, he pointed to evidence that actually proved the opposite of his intended point. That, too, is plainly outrageous.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-offers-hilarious-proof-back-conspiracy-theory?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Trash! :lol

Trash supporters! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

boutons_deux

06-16-2016, 02:38 PM

Republicans Run From Donald Trump's Orlando Response

GOP lawmakers in Washington jumped, ducked and crawled through yet another obstacle course laid by Trump as reporters peppered them with questions about the candidate's proposed ban on Muslim travel (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/donald-trump-pushes-gop-toward-far-right-islam-speech-n591561), his suggestions that President Obama sympathizes with radical Islamists (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/donald-trump-s-conspiracy-turn-n591291) and should resign and his threat of "big consequences" for Muslim communities in America who he says are harboring terrorists.

"I'm not going to be commenting on the presidential candidates today," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell

House Speaker Paul Ryan, "I am not going to spend my time commenting about the ups and downs and the in-betweens of comments," he said.

That was a popular reaction among Republicans, some of whom looked like they would rather be anywhere else doing anything but taking a question on Trump.

Jostling to get onto an elevator, Senator Pat Toomey, R-Penn., told reporters inquiring about Trump's Monday speech that he "didn't follow it closely."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/republicans-run-donald-trump-s-orlando-response-n592436?cid=sm_fb_lastword

Repugs are SO fucked! :lol

The Repug convention is gonna be SO MUCH FUN! :lol

boutons_deux

06-16-2016, 08:54 PM

Tensions Growing as Trump Campaign Brushes Off RNC Advice

Tensions are growing between Donald Trump's campaign and the Republican National Committee as the presumptive GOP nominee's operation proves sluggish to adopt suggestions from party leaders,

trust between the two camps has steadily deteriorated as the Trump campaign seems to brush off RNC advice on personnel, messaging and what it will take to win a national election come November.

Behind the scenes, the RNC is struggling to get Trump's team to staff up. Communication hires that were supposed to happen last week never materialized.

Instead of matching the RNC's ground game and firing power, Trump is focused on the same strategy he had during the primary -- dominate the news cycle and don't worry about details.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/tensions-growing-trump-campaign-brushes-rnc-advice-n593776?cid=sm_fb_lastword

spurraider21

06-16-2016, 09:02 PM

Spurminator

06-16-2016, 09:07 PM

still cant believe trump actually got the nom :lol... republican voters handed the presidency to clinton on a silver platter. she woulda had a much tougher time against any of the other candidates (save carson)

I really think trying to have 25 candidates for such a long time is what fucked them. It made Trump stand out even more while the "rational" support was split thin.

z0sa

06-16-2016, 09:16 PM

I really think trying to have 25 candidates for such a long time is what fucked them. It made Trump stand out even more while the "rational" support was split thin.

That's the problem. All those dumb bubba types actually have more faith in Trump than the highest levels of conservative leadership lol

boutons_deux

06-16-2016, 10:51 PM

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough Thinks Donald Trump Is Throwing The Election

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough thinks there is only one explanation for Donald Trump’s reckless behavior over the past few weeks: the presumptive GOP nominee is throwing the election.On Thursday’s episode of “Morning Joe,” Scarborough said that it’s time for Republican leaders to “stand up to him.”

Scarborough said:“This is getting out of control.

It’s not like we haven’t been talking about this day in and day out.

Donald Trump for some reason over the past two weeks has decided to throw this election.

This is, again, you look at Trump after Manafort came in, after Wisconsin, look at what happened for two or three weeks.

You had a disciplined campaign.

He actually delivered a half-disciplined speech to AIPAC.

It looked like he was shifting into second gear.

The last two weeks have been absolutely colossal and we’re going to show you numbers that show Republican numbers nationwide has gone to record lows… [Republican leaders have] got to stand up to him.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/16/msnbcs-joe-scarborough-thinks-donald-trump-throwing-election.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux

06-17-2016, 10:23 AM

Former President George W. Bush is helping a handful of vulnerable Republican senators up for re-election in November, including Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH), according to a New York Times report.

What it says is that, despite lingering antipathy for Bush, despite the fact that he was named worst president (http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/48916)by 61% of historians, and despite increasing evidence that Bush could have prevented 9/11, (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mw-jacobs/more-evidence-bush-was-that_b_8462640.html) he still looks good when compared to Donald Trump.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/06/17/1539764/-Republicans-drag-out-history-s-worst-president-because-he-s-still-much-better-than-Trump?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

Americans famously have short memories, and Repug voters are also ignorant, stupid fucks, to boot.

FkLA

06-17-2016, 01:50 PM

Just saw Trump in SA. Told him to stop being a faggot in Spanish tbh.

spurraider21

06-17-2016, 02:06 PM

Just saw Trump in SA. Told him to stop being a faggot in Spanish tbh.
Did you run into him at HEB tbh?

baseline bum

06-17-2016, 02:08 PM

Just saw Trump in SA. Told him to stop being a faggot in Spanish tbh.

He wasn't going to tip you anyways, you should have dropped him off at Alazan-Apache Courts instead.

Trill Clinton

06-17-2016, 02:22 PM

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FkLA

06-17-2016, 02:29 PM

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spurraider21

06-17-2016, 03:08 PM

:lol saxton

boutons_deux

06-17-2016, 08:02 PM

U.N. Warns Trump May Be 7 Months Away From Acquiring Nuclear Weapons

http://www.theonion.com/article/un-warns-trump-may-be-7-months-away-acquiring-nucl-53093

boutons_deux

06-18-2016, 07:50 AM

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13415424_10153499360746338_6061952778632762031_o.j pg

boutons_deux

06-18-2016, 01:05 PM

Dozens of GOP delegates launch new push to halt Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dozens-of-gop-delegates-launch-new-push-to-halt-donald-trump/2016/06/17/e8dcf74e-3491-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html?wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

Repugs are so fucked. :lol

boutons_deux

06-18-2016, 05:14 PM

Trump’s Embarrassing VP Short List Leaks And It Completely Reeks Of Failure

By Jason Easley (http://www.politicususa.com/author/jasoneasley-2-2-2-2-2) on Sat, Jun 18th, 2016 at 12:59 pm
Donald Trump's short list for potential running mates has been leaked, and the list contains a group of losers that would only hurt Republicans in November.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/686402105201000448/xdygWnkk_normal.jpgMatt Katz (https://twitter.com/mattkatz00)
(https://twitter.com/mattkatz00)✔@mattkatz00 (https://twitter.com/mattkatz00)

Trump VP List as of now, sources tell @politico (https://twitter.com/politico):
1)Chris Christie
2)Newt Gingrich
3)Jeff Sessions
4)Mary Fallin http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-vice-president-224488 … (https://t.co/Av351frtTU)

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/18/trumps-embarrassing-vp-short-list-leaks-completely-reeks-failure.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Repugs are so fucked! :lol

boutons_deux

06-18-2016, 05:15 PM

Trump Attacks ‘Illegal’ GOP ‘Insurgency’ at Vegas Rally

"I could give you names but I won't because it's meaningless. First of all it's illegal, second of all you can't do it."

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/18/trump-gop-insurgency-vegas-rally.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux

06-18-2016, 05:22 PM

Floundering Trump campaign sends out ’emergency’ email to raise $100,000 by end of the day

Setting their sights low, the campaign of presumptive 2016 GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump sent out an “emergency” email Saturday morning with a goal of raising $100,000 by the end of the day — for a campaign that is expected to cost in the hundreds of millions.

With the Clinton campaign launching a multi-million dollar ad blitz at Trump in the wake of his ill-timed comments on the Orlando shooting, the Trump campaign is making an appeal to Republican donors at the same time that the party appears to be shunning him.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/floundering-trump-campaign-sends-out-emergency-email-to-raise-100000-by-end-of-the-day/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux

06-18-2016, 05:23 PM

Apple won't aid GOP convention over Trump

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/apple-wont-aid-gop-convention-over-trump-224513

ducks

06-18-2016, 10:43 PM

ducks

06-18-2016, 10:44 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/13/horowitz-donald-trumps-speech-game-changer/

Winehole23

06-19-2016, 07:14 AM

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z0sa

06-19-2016, 07:20 AM

Apple won't aid GOP convention over Trump

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/apple-wont-aid-gop-convention-over-trump-224513

Fuck Apple. Ive been boycotting their phones since day 1 and also their computers, but of course that wasnt on purpose. :lol

Seriously though, I will never forget the mix of anger and pity i felt when i read about the Chinese authorities installing suicide prevention nets on their Apple factories due to the high number of workers offing themselves. Americans are fucking depraved letting this shit go on as long as it has.

boutons_deux

06-19-2016, 10:28 AM

Conservatives Have Already Given Up On Trump And Are Anticipating A Hillary Clinton Win

In the clearest sign that Republicans have already given up on Trump, conservative groups are pushing a two-year spending plan that would run through 2018 in anticipation that Hillary Clinton will be the next president.

In the clearest sign that Republicans have already given up on Trump, conservative groups are pushing a two-year spending plan that would run through 2018 in anticipation that Hillary Clinton will be the next president.Forbes reported: (http://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2016/06/19/conservatives-signaling-they-expect-hillary-clinton-to-win-the-election-this-november/#6659030f56d3)

According to a story by Matthew Nussbaum of Politico Pro (behind a paywall so no link),

“A network of conservative groups backed by mega-donors Charles and David Koch met with reporters today to unveil a plan to cut spending and reduce the national debt.

The plan, titled “Stop, Cut, Fix,” calls on Congress to pass a two-year continuing resolution for fiscal 2018 and 2019 that locks in sequester-level spending.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/19/conservatives-trump-anticipating-hillary-clinton-win.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Repugs as always hell-bent on self-fulfilling their ideology that govt is fucked up by fucking up govt.

DMX7

06-19-2016, 10:31 AM

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You know, I said I would never vote for Trump but what a commercial! I may just be back in the game with Trump. World President??? I never even thought of such a thing... he would be amazing!

boutons_deux

06-19-2016, 01:07 PM

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2016/06/RCP_Support.jpg&w=1484

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/19/the-brutal-numbers-behind-a-very-bad-month-for-donald-trump/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

boutons_deux

06-19-2016, 01:11 PM

Donald Trump Comes Up With A Gun Plan That’s So Crazy Even The NRA Won’t Support It

Donald Trump's plan to allow drunk people to have guns in bars to "prevent terrorism" is so crazy that two top NRA officials rejected it on national television.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/19/nras-top-lobbyist-thinks-trumps-plan-guns-bars-crazy.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

z0sa

06-19-2016, 01:19 PM

What happened to the ol' shotgun behind the bar? Is it illegal or something? That was the very first thing I thought of when I got the alerts about the shooting.

z0sa

06-19-2016, 01:53 PM

...for Putin there was little doubt about what he meant. “You see, it’s like I said,” Putin said. “Trump’s a colorful person. And well, isn’t he colorful? Colorful.

http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/trump-orange.jpg

:lmao can't make this shit up.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/18/putin_downplays_support_for_trump_says_u_s_is_prob ably_the_only_superpower.html

Reck

06-20-2016, 09:00 AM

Such a meltdown going in in the Trump camp.

He just fired hitman #1 this morning.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/21/us/politics/corey-lewandowski-donald-trump.html

boutons_deux

06-20-2016, 09:34 AM

While NRA trashes Trash's "personal carry needed in bars, drinking places" bullshit, NRA/ALEC has pushed, is pushing hard, and has succeeded, for personal carry and guns everywhere for (heavy drinking) college kids.

boutons_deux

06-20-2016, 10:17 AM

Lewandowski leaves Trump campaign

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/20/donald-trump-corey-lewandowski-campaign/86133274/

:lol

hater

06-20-2016, 10:59 AM

All this turmoil in GOP and Trump campaign and yet... Not a sane person would put his money on Shillary winning it all :lmao

She's that bad :lol

Reck

06-20-2016, 11:19 AM

All this turmoil in GOP and Trump campaign and yet... Not a sane person would put his money on Shillary winning it all :lmao

She's that bad :lol

They are.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/republicans-clinton-trump-indiana-222778

AT least 5 top ranking republicans have said they will support her over Trump. :lmao

hater

06-20-2016, 12:13 PM

They are.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/republicans-clinton-trump-indiana-222778

AT least 5 top ranking republicans have said they will support her over Trump. :lmao

Putting support != putting their money

My point is even with all the mess, its still a tight race and it will go down to the wire :lol

:lol shillary

ducks

06-20-2016, 12:35 PM

Spurminator

06-20-2016, 01:43 PM

this is why congress has a rating of 14 percent

LOL @ Party DISloyalty being the reason for low approval ratings.

Trill Clinton

06-20-2016, 03:36 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=5-ekdCYzRDQ

smh

boutons_deux

06-20-2016, 04:13 PM

Is Trash already "sick of winning" the GOP support? :lol

Trill Clinton

06-20-2016, 04:38 PM

:lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5abq7Pgp3K8

boutons_deux

06-20-2016, 05:57 PM

An inside look at the voters who took over the Republican Party

A year after Donald Trump launched his presidential bid, and against all expectations, the business mogul is the presumptive GOP nominee.

Who supported him?

How did he take over a Republican Party whose leaders almost uniformly opposed him?

And will the GOP ever be the same?

NBC News crunched polling and election data and conducted dozens of interviews with supporters, critics and party leaders of all stripes for a series of stories explaining the phenomenon that defined 2016.

In chapter one, we look at Trump’s voters: Where they live, what they want, and how their deep unease with a changing America fueled a political revolution.

http://www.nbcnews.com/specials/donald-trump-republican-party?cid=sm_fb_po_1_062016_15

cd021

06-20-2016, 06:53 PM

Putting support != putting their money

My point is even with all the mess, its still a tight race and it will go down to the wire :lol

:lol shillary
People thought Obama Vs. Romney would go down to the wire and how did that turn out?:lol

Trump is not winning Florida and Virginia, with both states having more than 1/3 of their populations Black/Asian/Hispanic. Even if Trump holds the red states he would have no chance of winning.

Reck

06-20-2016, 08:04 PM

Putting support != putting their money

My point is even with all the mess, its still a tight race and it will go down to the wire :lol

:lol shillary

This is a tight race? What polls and data are you looking at? In fact, Republicans are at risk of losing deep red states that would never go blue in any other circustance. :lol

boutons_deux

06-20-2016, 10:06 PM

boutons_deux

06-21-2016, 06:32 AM

is the Trump presidential campaign just an over-elaborate bank heist? (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/6/20/1539947/-Wait-is-the-Trump-presidential-campaign-just-an-over-elaborate-bank-heist)

Trump was the chairman of Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts in Atlantic City from 1995 to 2009, his only outing as the head of a major public company.

During that time, the company lost more than $1 billion, financial records show.

He also was chief executive from 2000 to 2005, during which time share prices plunged from a high of $35 to as low as 17 cents.

Trump may have helmed the company bearing his name to penny-stock status, but he himself did exceedingly well. He got $44 million in salary. He charged the company additional "fees" for his services. The company paid for the $2 million care and feeding of his personal jet, and so on, and so on.

To say Trump has no remorse about the cratering of the company he helmed would be, if anything, an understatement:

He expounded: “They say, ‘Why don’t you take the casinos public or something?’ You know, if you take them public, you make money on that. All I can say is I wasn’t representing the country. I wasn’t representing the banks. I wasn’t representing anybody but myself.”

All right, so Trump created a public company and then charged it exuberantly for his every involvement. That's not terribly surprising. But the Washington Post piece hints at the serious possibility that the public company became a dumping ground for Trump's other debt:

Trump offloaded his failing efforts onto the stockholders, while he himself basked in stockholder-provided cash and perks.

When it debuted that year on the New York Stock Exchange, Trump’s company raised $140 million from investors, at $14 a share, and said the money would go toward expanding the Plaza and developing a riverboat casino in Indiana.

But much of that money went to pay off tens of millions of dollars in loans Trump had personally guaranteed, filings show.

Those loans were taken out before the company went public, but Trump’s private fortune could have been at risk if they went unpaid.

That was only the beginning:

In less than a year, the company paid premium prices for two of Trump’s deeply indebted, privately held casinos, the Trump Taj Mahal and the Trump Castle.

In essence, he was both buyer and seller, able to set whatever price he wanted.

The company bought his Castle for $100 million more than analysts said it was worth.

Trump pocketed $880,000 in cash after arranging the deal, financial filings show.

By the end of 1996, shareholders who had bet on a rosy Trump future were now investors in a company with $1.7 billion of Trump’s old debt.

The company was forced to spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year on interest payments, more than the casinos brought in [...]

And that, to make a short story shorter, was the beginning of the end. Trump had taken millions from the company and in exchange, his stockholders were saddled with two near-defunct Trump properties at inflated prices. The company would continue to pay Trump handsomely for the next decade while struggling under those debts and others—such as purchasing Trump-branded bottled water for their patrons and paying Trump $6 million in "entertainment" fees for hosting company clients on his jet and golf courses—before eventually having its stock frozen, then delisted.

So that is the story of how Donald Trump survived the collapse of his two privately held casinos,

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/06/21/1539947/-Wait-is-the-Trump-presidential-campaign-just-an-over-elaborate-bank-heist?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

Trash is nothing but a classic con man, a superb demagogue, fraud, fake, huckster.

ducks

06-21-2016, 03:11 PM

Trump did not kill people Clinton did

TheGreatYacht

06-21-2016, 04:28 PM

Trump did not kill people Clinton did
Hillary didn't kill anyone.

Trump got a baby dick

ducks

06-21-2016, 05:28 PM

Hillary didn't kill anyone.

Trump got a baby dick

She lied and got people killed

Trump has big balls to start some of the businesses he has done

TheGreatYacht

06-21-2016, 05:59 PM

She lied and got people killed

Trump has big balls to start some of the businesses he has done
Are you saying he pisses on his balls?

Hillary will win by a landslide. People don't care about Benghazi, sad that that's the only dirt cuckservatives have

pgardn

06-21-2016, 06:13 PM

:lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5abq7Pgp3K8

Kids with speech impediments end up like this.

Aztecfan03

06-21-2016, 10:59 PM

All these investigations of Hillary and yet... Not a sane person would put his money on Trump winning it all :lmao

He's that bad :lol

Fixed it for you.

boutons_deux

06-22-2016, 08:50 AM

http://www.truthdig.com/images/made/images/cartoonuploads/[email protected]

angrydude

06-22-2016, 12:52 PM

Hillary didn't kill anyone.

Trump got a baby dick

When people say that they aren't talking about Benghazi, but about Hillary's illegal foreign wars for gold, oil, and power.

DMX7

06-22-2016, 02:21 PM

DMX7

06-22-2016, 02:29 PM

breaking news of the Donald Trump campaign's latest FEC filing showing a shockingly weak war chest.
The campaign reports a meager $1.3M cash-on-hand, and $3.2M raised.

the Sanders campaign filed their monthly report as well:
$9.2M cash-on-hand
$16.4M raised

TRMS

How is Sanders still raising any money at this point? Automatic monthly donations that people have forgotten to stop renewing?

spurraider21

06-22-2016, 02:32 PM

I don't think Hillary really wanted to go to war in Iraq but instead her vote was a consequence of calculated thinking. She has always had her eye on the top job and she wanted to be seen as tough to separate herself from the GOP branding of all democrats as weak on the use of military force.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/26/the-13-words-you-cant-write-about-hillary-clinton-anymore/

You sexist pig

DMX7

06-22-2016, 02:59 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/26/the-13-words-you-cant-write-about-hillary-clinton-anymore/

You sexist pig

The reason Hillary Clinton is so polarizing is because her ambitions inevitably lead to a sense of entitlement expressed through disingenuous, out-of-touch and insincere opinions.

boutons_deux

06-22-2016, 08:15 PM

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13501839_10209837868687481_1875971026326286635_n.j pg?oh=b3b4d7e1cd87c1ec030a66a5b6fc240d&oe=57EFE2F2

boutons_deux

06-22-2016, 08:25 PM

Bachmann’s new gig: Trump adviser on evangelical issues

No matter how much American politics have changed during this election cycle, one eternal truth remains: Republicans need evangelical voters.

Even Donald Trump, the man of botched Bible verses and many wives, is making moves to win over conservative Christians.

On Tuesday, he met with more than 1,000 mostly evangelical leaders, along with some Catholics, in a closed-to-the-press meeting in New York City.

Big names – from former presidential candidate Ben Carson to the Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. to the pollster George Barna – apparently spoke at the event, while Trump took pre-selected questions in a discussion moderated by the former presidential candidate and preacher Mike Huckabee.

But while Trump has a number of vocal evangelical cheerleaders, and leaders gave him a hearing on Tuesday, many conservative Christians are still wary of the presumptive Republican nominee.

Soon after, the Trump campaign announced (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/trump-campaign-announces-evangelical-executive-advisory-board) the creation of a new “executive board convened to provide advisory support to Mr. Trump on those issues important to Evangelicals and other people of faith in America.” The name at the top of the list: Michele Bachmann.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/bachmanns-new-gig-trump-adviser-evangelical-issues?cid=sm_fb_maddow

HI-FI

06-22-2016, 09:11 PM

The reason Hillary Clinton is so polarizing is because her ambitions inevitably lead to a sense of entitlement expressed through disingenuous, out-of-touch and insincere opinions.
http://cdn.noodlenuke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Photoshopped-Hillary-Clinton-3.png

spurraider21

06-22-2016, 11:38 PM

The reason Hillary Clinton is so polarizing is because her ambitions inevitably lead to a sense of entitlement expressed through disingenuous, out-of-touch and insincere opinions.
you fucking misogynist

https://i.gyazo.com/d8b5139303110ee59901c5c97089255d.png

boutons_deux

06-23-2016, 01:55 AM

"Donald Trump apparently wants the presidential race to be about honesty.His brazen lies this morning proved why that's a spectacularly bad idea."

Donald Trash gets lost beneath ‘an avalanche of falsehoods’

Donald Trump called Hillary Clinton “a world class liar” who thinks she is “entitled” to the presidency during a speech attacking his Democratic rival Wednesday.

“Hillary Clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency of the United States,” Trump said in a speech at one of his properties in New York. […]

“Her campaign slogan is ‘I’m with her,’” Trump said. “You know what my response to that is? I’m with you: the American people.”

Right. Because if there’s one thing that’s obvious about Donald J. Trump, it’s that he isn’t a narcissist.

Most of the attacks were predictable and clumsily delivered, but the most striking thing about this morning’s scripted address was its breathtaking dishonesty. In theory, if Clinton were as awful as Trump and Republicans claim, it should be fairly easy to deliver a speech condemning her using facts and real-world evidence.

Instead, as Slate’s Jamelle Bouie put it (http://twitter.com/jbouie/status/745637325409914880), Trump leaned on “an avalanche of falsehoods.”

It’s hard to even know where to start; the lie-to-sentence ratio approached one to one.

Trump said he opposed the war in Iraq before the 2003 invasion, which isn’t true (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-most-impressive-boast-brazen-lie).

He said Clinton’s email server was hacked, which isn’t true (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/fact-checking-trump-s-speech-n597051).

Trump said Clinton wants “totally open borders” and an end to “virtually all immigration enforcement,” which isn’t even close (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/fact-checking-trump-s-speech-n597051) to being true.

Trump lied about Syrian refugees (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fact-check-trump-speech-clinton).

He lied about the loan (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/fact-checking-trump-s-speech-n597051) he received to start his business.

He liedabout U.S. tax rates (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/23/us/politics/donald-trump-speech-highlights.html).

He lied about Benghazi (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/06/22/trump-s-benghazi-lies-came-fox-news/211105) (more than once (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/01/26/600-requests-from-benghazi-for-better-security-what-this-statistic-really-means/)).

He lied about the Clinton Foundation (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/).

He lied about gifts (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/fact-check-trump-speech-clinton) Clinton received during her tenure as Secretary of State.

And really, this is just a sampling. If there had been a machine in the room that buzzed every time Trump said something untrue, the thing would have caught fire by the time the candidate wrapped up his remarks.

Remember, if Trump had been speaking off the cuff, it might be easier to defend some of these obvious and demonstrable falsehoods; he and his allies might be able to say he got confused or lost his train of thought.

But this was Trump reading on a teleprompter from a prepared text. In other words, Trumpdeliberately made a whole lot of claims that weren’t in any way true – all while accusing his rival of being a “liar.”

By some measures, this morning’s ridiculous tirade should have been a disqualifying moment for Trump: it served as powerful evidence that the candidate is so disconnected from reality, he hardly understands what the truth is.

If Trump is serious about turning this presidential race into a contest over which candidate is more honest, he should be prepared to lose every state.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/donald-trump-gets-lost-beneath-avalanche-falsehoods?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Fabbs

06-23-2016, 05:49 AM

^^ Fact checking Trumps latest attack:

Summary
Donald Trump’s once delayed, and much anticipated, speech on Hillary Clinton’s character, included numerous false and misleading statements:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheckingtrump/trump%e2%80%99s-attack-on-clinton%e2%80%99s-character/ar-AAhuEB2?ocid=spartandhp

boutons_deux

06-23-2016, 08:35 AM

With a comical pandering session, Trump shows how irrelevant the Christian right has become to presidential politics

Donald Trump could deliver them (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/06/20/how-can-trump-win-the-many-undecided-evangelicals-we-asked-them/) the most simplistic, insincere session of pandering they’ve ever witnessed.

the Christian right has faded into nothingness. It now exists for nothing more than to be patted on the head and sent on its way with an encouragement to vote in November.

a man who has divided their group with comments on women, immigrants and Islam. In his comments, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee said he would end the decades-old ban on tax-exempt groups’ — including churches — politicking,

called religious liberty “the No. 1 question,” and promised to appoint antiabortion Supreme Court justices.

“I think maybe that will be my greatest contribution to Christianity :lol — and other religions — is to allow you, when you talk religious liberty, to go and speak openly, and if you like somebody or want somebody to represent you, you should have the right to do it,” Trump said.

A ban was put in place by President Lyndon Johnson on tax-exempt groups making explicit political endorsements. Religious leaders in America today, Trump said, “are petrified.”

Trump’s comically ham-handed appeal to these leaders — among other things, he apparently believes that someone passed a federal law forbidding the words “Merry Christmas” from being uttered, but he’s going to take care of that, believe me

many evangelicals, particularly adherents of the “prosperity gospel,” which preaches that God wants you to be rich, ended up attracted to the least observant and most personally morally repugnant candidate in the race, because hey, he has his own plane and hates Muslims.

The “missing” evangelical voters aren’t missing because they’ve turned away from worldly things; they’re missing because they’re Americans, and Americans only turn out at rates of 55 percent to 60 percent or so in presidential elections.

give the overwhelming majority of their votes to Trump, not because they believe his occasional claims of devotion (they can’t possibly be that stupid), but simply because he’s a Republican.

Trump is exactly the kind of candidate they deserve: one who’ll read off a list of pander points somebody prepared for him, then forget them as soon as he takes office.

he made people like James Dobson and Franklin Graham feel, for a day, that they matter to this election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/06/22/with-a-comical-pandering-session-trump-shows-how-irrelevant-the-christian-right-has-become-to-presidential-politics/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

boutons_deux

06-23-2016, 09:42 AM

They are flying Mexican flags in Scotland for Trump's visit (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/6/22/1541336/-They-are-flying-Mexican-flags-in-Scotland-for-Trump-s-visit)

http://images.dailykos.com/images/266139/story_image/GettyImages-541954116.jpg?1466615251

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/6/22/1541336/-They-are-flying-Mexican-flags-in-Scotland-for-Trump-s-visit

Trash's xenophobic, racist reputation precedes him. :lol

boutons_deux

06-23-2016, 09:46 AM

Trump’s Scottish trip is a bigger mistake than he realizes

But as the New York Times reported (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/us/politics/donald-trump-scotland.html), the truth is a little more complicated.

His campaign is desperately short of cash. He has struggled to hire staff. Influential Republicans are demanding that he demonstrate he can run a serious general election campaign.

But, for reasons that emphasize just how unusual a candidate he is, Donald J. Trump is leaving the campaign trail on Thursday to travel to Scotland to promote a golf course his company purchased on the country’s southwestern coast.

This may sound like some sort of joke, but it’s quite real. This isn’t a situation in which an American presidential hopeful has scheduled meetings with foreign officials, and he’s checking in on his business interests while he’s there; it’s largely the opposite. Trump’s Scottish sojourn appears to have practically nothing to do with the office he’s seeking.

The Times report added that Trump’s business interests “still drive his behavior, and his schedule. He has planned two days in Scotland, with no meetings with government or political leaders scheduled.” The Republican’s itinerary “reads like a public relations junket crossed with a golf vacation,” complete with “a ceremonial ribbon cutting.”

Scott W. Reed, senior political strategist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, added (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/us/politics/donald-trump-scotland.html), “Everyone knows this is the wrong thing for the nominee to be doing now, and it is amazing this can’t be stopped.”

The problem, as the Washington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-top-example-of-foreign-experience-a-scottish-golf-course-losing-millions/2016/06/22/12ae9cb0-1883-11e6-9e16-2e5a123aac62_story.html) yesterday, is that the entire venture has been a bit of a disaster.

[T]o many people in Scotland, his course here has been a failure.

Over the past decade, Trump has battled with homeowners,

elbowed his way through the planning process,

shattered relationships with elected leaders and sued the Scottish government.

On top of that, he has yet to fulfill the lofty promises he made.

Trump has also reported to Scottish authorities that he lost millions of dollars on the project – even as he claims on U.S. presidential disclosure forms that the course has been highly profitable.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-scottish-trip-bigger-mistake-he-realizes?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Trash's golf course is simple "sick of winning" :lol