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Reck
05-04-2016, 08:50 AM
Trump should choose either Rubio (camp him out in Miami-Dade and Broward/have him on Univision often) or Kasich for VP. Go hard after FL, OH, VA, NH, NC and pay attention to AZ. Try for IA, MI, and WI (although Never Trump movement poisoned the well here) too.

:lmao

Having Rubio as a running mate would be a death blow. Rubio is a boy and would get destroy against someone like Warren (Let's face it, if Warren is VP it doesn't matter who Trump picks, its an automatic loss) and say someone like Julian Castro would cover Rubio's hispanic base. I mean after all guy has lighyears more experience than Rubio.

boutons_deux
05-04-2016, 08:57 AM
The Repug party and its voters are "bleeding from wherever" :lol

"I've got a really good brain" Trump has made loudly, repeatedly EXPLICIT all the dog-whistling the Repugs have been elected on for decades. :lol

CosmicCowboy
05-04-2016, 09:00 AM
:lmao

Having Rubio as a running mate would be a death blow. Rubio is a boy and would get destroy against someone like Warren (Let's face it, if Warren is VP it doesn't matter who Trump picks, its an automatic loss) and say someone like Julian Castro would cover Rubio's hispanic base. I mean after all guy has lighyears more experience than Rubio.

no way Hillary picks Warren.

Reck
05-04-2016, 09:06 AM
no way Hillary picks Warren.

I know but I hope that she does. It's a guarantee november win.

DMX7
05-04-2016, 10:45 AM
Trump should choose either Rubio (camp him out in Miami-Dade and Broward/have him on Univision often) or Kasich for VP. Go hard after FL, OH, VA, NH, NC and pay attention to AZ. Try for IA, MI, and WI (although Never Trump movement poisoned the well here) too.

I still would pick Kasich. Kasich is almost certainly dropping out of the race today. Perhaps he is already talking to the Trump campaign.

RandomGuy
05-04-2016, 11:08 AM
http://img.ifcdn.com/images/45efe1ec5e2cef752688935cae67827ccfa48868fb95c2bcb8 a6ce64eb982c34_1.jpg

RandomGuy
05-04-2016, 11:09 AM
http://f.tqn.com/y/politicalhumor/1/S/z/V/6/trump-hell-toupee.jpg

RandomGuy
05-04-2016, 11:10 AM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/71/6a/4e/716a4e952c435997fc0f7be58c802497.jpg

RandomGuy
05-04-2016, 11:11 AM
http://cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/2015/09/05/635770136131300460529381563_MEME-TRUMP.imgopt1000x70.jpeg



and now back to your regularly scheduled discussion. (my oh so short break is over....)

tlongII
05-04-2016, 11:28 AM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/45/34/2d/45342ddd1188588da3d881763abcadde.jpg

tlongII
05-04-2016, 11:29 AM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/63/8d/0b/638d0bf29a573d5f638c91b2adb999e7.jpg

tlongII
05-04-2016, 11:31 AM
http://www.allenbwest.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/hillary-meme.jpg

RandomGuy
05-04-2016, 12:31 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/63/8d/0b/638d0bf29a573d5f638c91b2adb999e7.jpg

3/10

Sarcasm, ok, but just not funny. Seriously, self-identified conservatives really seem to lack a sophisticated sense of humor, no offense.

RandomGuy
05-04-2016, 12:31 PM
http://www.allenbwest.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/hillary-meme.jpg

hmmm doesn't hotlink in my browswer. :(

RandomGuy
05-04-2016, 12:32 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/45/34/2d/45342ddd1188588da3d881763abcadde.jpg

6/10 for double entendre.

RandomGuy
05-04-2016, 12:34 PM
I know but I hope that she does. It's a guarantee november win.

It is Trump v. Clinton, no matter what the 2nd slot is.

Looks like we are going to get a woman in the white house. Depending on how much rank and file GOPers live up to their promise to stay at home... she will have a strongly Democratic congress to work with.

baseline bum
05-04-2016, 12:41 PM
It is Trump v. Clinton, no matter what the 2nd slot is.

Looks like we are going to get a woman in the white house. Depending on how much rank and file GOPers live up to their promise to stay at home... she will have a strongly Democratic congress to work with.

No she won't, the Dems have virtually no shot at the house.

tlongII
05-04-2016, 12:42 PM
It is Trump v. Clinton, no matter what the 2nd slot is.

Looks like we are going to get a woman in the white house. Depending on how much rank and file GOPers live up to their promise to stay at home... she will have a strongly Democratic congress to work with.

We shall see. I'm certainly not convinced of that.

baseline bum
05-04-2016, 12:57 PM
We shall see. I'm certainly not convinced of that.

Yeah, but you thought you were beating Golden State tbh. Trump is like the Blazers, one overrated pos and the rest of the team wants out in the summer.

Spurminator
05-04-2016, 01:19 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/63/8d/0b/638d0bf29a573d5f638c91b2adb999e7.jpg

So angry...

Dirk Oneanddoneski
05-04-2016, 01:54 PM
Taiwanese animators election update they even included #trigglypuff

http://i.imgur.com/fcF3f6d.jpg

hOjJUgADNaI

boutons_deux
05-05-2016, 05:59 AM
Coal Bear asks God "Why Trump?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJIllWIRx-M

boutons_deux
05-05-2016, 06:00 AM
So angry...

she's horrible, but much better than Trump.

tlongII
05-05-2016, 08:56 AM
she's horrible, but much better than Trump.

Nope.

boutons_deux
05-05-2016, 09:11 AM
About those intelligence briefings for Donald Trump…

nd more important than the title are the benefits presumptive nominees receive. As Rachel noted (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-victory-a-mark-of-historic-gop-weakness-679629379807) on the show last night, one benefit in particular stands out:

“Now, today, as the presumptive nominee, [Trump] does start to get treated differently. Now starts a process that will see him ultimately get RNC staff and RNC money. He will start to get control of the Republican Party’s bureaucratic apparatus to use for his own purposes.

“Yesterday he was accusing Ted Cruz’s dad on being in on the JFK assassination. Now, he’s about to start getting classified CIA briefings as the Republican Party’s nominee for president.”


That last one is easy to overlook, but it’s quite important. Federal officials – non-partisan, career personnel – begin a process every four years of preparing would-be presidents for their prospective responsibilities.

And that means, among other things, classified intelligence briefings, which Trump is eager to receive (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-takes-the-reins-of-a-divided-republican-party/2016/05/04/48df48ca-122a-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html). By some accounts, Obama administration officials have already begun preparations (http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-exit-race/) to provide regular updates to both parties’ presidential nominees, including Trump, with sensitive national security information.

And this opens the door to some interesting possibilities.

TPM’s Josh Marshall noted (https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/728041353570045953), for example, that Trump will be receiving classified CIA briefings while (https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/paul_manafort_isn_t_a_gop_retread_he_s_made_a_care er_of_reinventing_tyrants.html) his campaign chief “works for pro-Putin Russian oligarchs.” Won’t that be interesting.

But we can keep going with related questions. What would Trump do, for example, if the CIA told him that his anti-Muslim rhetoric was creating a national security threat?

Or more broadly, has anyone started a pool as to when Trump might blurt out sensitive information he’s not supposed to share publicly?

Remember, senators – and to a lesser extent, governors – receive intelligence briefings with some regularity, but Trump has literally no background in public service. This will be a fascinating experiment.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/about-those-intelligence-briefings-donald-trump?cid=sm_fb_maddow

"blah blah blah" "I don't know where I heard it"

boutons_deux
05-05-2016, 09:43 AM
More Trump LIES

Trump says he will raise minimum wage beyond $15 an hour when he brings ‘our jobs back’

“I’m open to doing something with it,” Trump said in an interview with CNN, adding that he did not like the current $15-an-hour level. “I mean you have to something that you can live on.”

“But what I really do like is bring our jobs back, so they’re making much more than the $15” an hour, he added.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-says-he-will-raise-minimum-wage-beyond-15-an-hour-when-he-brings-our-jobs-back/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Talk is cheap, and Trump's talk is cheapest of all.

DMX7
05-05-2016, 09:59 AM
More Trump LIES

Trump says he will raise minimum wage beyond $15 an hour when he brings ‘our jobs back’

“I’m open to doing something with it,” Trump said in an interview with CNN, adding that he did not like the current $15-an-hour level. “I mean you have to something that you can live on.”

“But what I really do like is bring our jobs back, so they’re making much more than the $15” an hour, he added.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-says-he-will-raise-minimum-wage-beyond-15-an-hour-when-he-brings-our-jobs-back/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Talk is cheap, and Trump's talk is cheapest of all.



Jesus, that analysis is so stupid.

He's not saying that he's going to raise the federal minimum wage beyond $15. He's saying he wants to bring back jobs so that people earning the minimum wage can get better jobs that pay way beyond $15 (as a result of a great job market, and not because the law requires it).

I'm not saying the economy will be great, but at least interpret what he is saying honestly...

boutons_deux
05-05-2016, 10:02 AM
Jesus, that analysis is so stupid.

He's not saying that he's going to raise the federal minimum wage beyond $15. He's saying he wants to bring back jobs so that people earning the minimum wage can get better jobs that pay way beyond $15 (as a result of a great job market, and not because the law requires it).

I'm not saying the economy will be great, but at least interpret what he is saying honestly...

Yes, he says it. He doesn't like $15, not enough to live on.

And he lies that he's gonna get BigCorp to bring back all those out-sourced factories and jobs from Asia and start paying good wages again.

TOTAL FUCKING LIE, like his deporting 12M illegals, building that wall and making MX pay for it. ALL TOTAL FUCKING LIES.

DMX7
05-05-2016, 10:11 AM
Yes, he says it. He doesn't like $15, not enough to live on.

And he lies that he's gonna get BigCorp to bring back all those out-sourced factories and jobs from Asia and start paying good wages again.

TOTAL FUCKING LIE, like his deporting 12M illegals, building that wall and making MX pay for it. ALL TOTAL FUCKING LIES.

Oh there will be a wall... a big wall... but I don't expect Mexico to pay for it. He's laying out ambitions, goals and plans... there is an understanding that it may not all come to fruition 100%, but he is going to try. And Bernie Sanders probably couldn't get 1/10th of what he is proposing done if we're honest. And I like Bernie.

CosmicCowboy
05-05-2016, 10:58 AM
Yes, he says it. He doesn't like $15, not enough to live on.

And he lies that he's gonna get BigCorp to bring back all those out-sourced factories and jobs from Asia and start paying good wages again.

TOTAL FUCKING LIE, like his deporting 12M illegals, building that wall and making MX pay for it. ALL TOTAL FUCKING LIES.

Bookaki's head is going to explode November 8.

RandomGuy
05-05-2016, 11:14 AM
About those intelligence briefings for Donald Trump…

nd more important than the title are the benefits presumptive nominees receive. As Rachel noted (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-victory-a-mark-of-historic-gop-weakness-679629379807) on the show last night, one benefit in particular stands out:

“Now, today, as the presumptive nominee, [Trump] does start to get treated differently. Now starts a process that will see him ultimately get RNC staff and RNC money. He will start to get control of the Republican Party’s bureaucratic apparatus to use for his own purposes.

“Yesterday he was accusing Ted Cruz’s dad on being in on the JFK assassination. Now, he’s about to start getting classified CIA briefings as the Republican Party’s nominee for president.”


That last one is easy to overlook, but it’s quite important. Federal officials – non-partisan, career personnel – begin a process every four years of preparing would-be presidents for their prospective responsibilities.

And that means, among other things, classified intelligence briefings, which Trump is eager to receive (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-takes-the-reins-of-a-divided-republican-party/2016/05/04/48df48ca-122a-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html). By some accounts, Obama administration officials have already begun preparations (http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-exit-race/) to provide regular updates to both parties’ presidential nominees, including Trump, with sensitive national security information.

And this opens the door to some interesting possibilities.

TPM’s Josh Marshall noted (https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/728041353570045953), for example, that Trump will be receiving classified CIA briefings while (https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/paul_manafort_isn_t_a_gop_retread_he_s_made_a_care er_of_reinventing_tyrants.html) his campaign chief “works for pro-Putin Russian oligarchs.” Won’t that be interesting.

But we can keep going with related questions. What would Trump do, for example, if the CIA told him that his anti-Muslim rhetoric was creating a national security threat?

Or more broadly, has anyone started a pool as to when Trump might blurt out sensitive information he’s not supposed to share publicly?

Remember, senators – and to a lesser extent, governors – receive intelligence briefings with some regularity, but Trump has literally no background in public service. This will be a fascinating experiment.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/about-those-intelligence-briefings-donald-trump?cid=sm_fb_maddow

"blah blah blah" "I don't know where I heard it"





Maddow FTW.

She has her own specific point of view, but is always cogent, and offers some very intelligent commentary.

It is telling that the right has no equivalent, IMO. It is almost as if you have to give up your ability to think critically to be "right-wing".

angrydude
05-05-2016, 11:33 AM
Yes, he says it. He doesn't like $15, not enough to live on.

And he lies that he's gonna get BigCorp to bring back all those out-sourced factories and jobs from Asia and start paying good wages again.

TOTAL FUCKING LIE, like his deporting 12M illegals, building that wall and making MX pay for it. ALL TOTAL FUCKING LIES.

Not according to Hillary Clinton


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQfdbWGmqjM

Or is Hillary lying?

Mitch
05-05-2016, 02:57 PM
Trump now sealed up Juan-Carlos' ( LkrFan ) vote

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13179308_10157008375200725_4593406568140463398_n.j pg?oh=62fe630b0444c32d7bb483aa2710e705&oe=57B6E1B1

rmt
05-05-2016, 05:29 PM
Yes, he says it. He doesn't like $15, not enough to live on.

And he lies that he's gonna get BigCorp to bring back all those out-sourced factories and jobs from Asia and start paying good wages again.

TOTAL FUCKING LIE, like his deporting 12M illegals, building that wall and making MX pay for it. ALL TOTAL FUCKING LIES.

Can't you wait until he wins the election and tries to do something, anything before you say he's lying. Give him a chance.

IMO, he needs to have an amnesty period (with lowered tax) where the corporations can bring back the trillions parked abroad with the understanding that they will invest/create jobs. Lower the corporate tax rate so that companies like Burger King, Actavis/Allergan and Pfizer (tried but failed) don't run to other countries. Lift a lot of the regulations strangling businesses eg. Obamacare is requiring that restaurants come up with nutritional data on all their menu items. Do you know what that will do to little mom and pop restaurants? The big pizza chains are already complaining - can you imagine how many different variations with the different combination of toppings there are? The expense of doing this is too burdensome.

DMX7
05-05-2016, 05:46 PM
I'm going to add some fuel to the fire and say something the media hasn't. Another reason people are supporting Trump is because they want to be Trump... they want his lifestyle... or at least to live vicariously through him.

I support him for entirely different reasons though. As long as people vote for him, I don't care why they do it (I think).

spurraider21
05-05-2016, 05:52 PM
do you guys really think posting political cartoons/memes make valid points?

Spurminator
05-05-2016, 06:07 PM
Obamacare is requiring that restaurants come up with nutritional data on all their menu items. Do you know what that will do to little mom and pop restaurants? The big pizza chains are already complaining - can you imagine how many different variations with the different combination of toppings there are? The expense of doing this is too burdensome.

Many new restaurants are volunteering this information and big chains are starting to include nutritional information without it being enforced yet. It is becoming a consumer expectation.

I'm not saying it should be mandated (and it's been delayed multiple times), but those restaurants would have to eventually provide this info anyway if they want to stay in business.

Dirk Oneanddoneski
05-05-2016, 06:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/J8PM8d1.jpg

Mitch
05-05-2016, 07:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/J8PM8d1.jpg

Pants will be crapped if he was secretary of state or treasury, tbh

rmt
05-05-2016, 09:51 PM
Many new restaurants are volunteering this information and big chains are starting to include nutritional information without it being enforced yet. It is becoming a consumer expectation.

I'm not saying it should be mandated (and it's been delayed multiple times), but those restaurants would have to eventually provide this info anyway if they want to stay in business.

You expect nutritional data from your Chinese takeout or hot dog stand? Or is there an exception for small businesses?

Spurminator
05-05-2016, 09:59 PM
You expect nutritional data from your Chinese takeout or hot dog stand? Or is there an exception for small businesses?

You just named two of the least trustworthy genres of food.

There are already exceptions built in to the Nutrition guidelines, even for big businesses (example: limited-time offerings are not subject to the requirements).

boutons_deux
05-06-2016, 06:20 AM
knitters, wetbacks, Jews, Muslims, Dems, atheists, libruls, atheists, gun control, feminazis, LGBT, God-lessness:

ALL are the bogus reasons ignorant, poor white males are told by the Repug/VRWC/hate-media propaganda machine they aren't rich white males. When the real reason white males are fucked is the Repug whores have been legislating the VRWC/1% strategy of kleptocratic, autocratic oligarchy for 45 years.

Trump supporter — and former KKK leader — David Duke says Jews are the ‘reason why America is not great’

David Duke, like Trump, with colored, fair-haired Aryan prototype

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/David-Duke-and-Spanish-white-nationalists-Facebook-800x430.png

Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke lauded Donald Trump’s rise to become the Republican nominee on Wednesday, saying that he had overcome “Jewish supremacists who control” the United States.

opposition to Trump showed that Jews are “the real problem” and the “reason why America is not great.”

Duke hailed Trump’s win as an “amazing victory” (http://europe.newsweek.com/will-trumps-triumph-set-civil-war-gop-455617) and blamed Republican Jews for attempts to stop him becoming the eventual candidate for the presidency.

But, according to U.S. Jewish publication The Forward (http://forward.com/news/national/340036/former-klan-leader-says-jewish-opposition-to-trump-will-expose-jews-as-the/#ixzz47ktc1LQk), Jewish Republicans had in fact been noting their support for Trump with former spokesman of George W. Bush tweeting that he would “vote for Trump over Hillary any day” while Republican Jewish Coalition chairman (http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-running-mate-455736)David Flaum criticized Clinton as the worst choice for the presidency and congratulated Trump on his victory.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-supporter-and-former-kkk-leader-david-duke-says-jews-are-the-reason-why-america-is-not-great/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

So gas all the Jews, and America will be great again. got it. Thanks, Dave, you're the best.

rmt
05-06-2016, 06:38 AM
You just named two of the least trustworthy genres of food.

There are already exceptions built in to the Nutrition guidelines, even for big businesses (example: limited-time offerings are not subject to the requirements).

Don't know about you but I love me my Chinese food. And it can be very healthy - just depends on what you choose. Can you imagine providing nutritional data for something like dim sum? And I don't think these restaurants have to provide nutritional data if they want to stay in business. If I feel like a pepperoni pizza, I'm gonna eat one - no matter what the nutritional data says. I care more about the cost of the pizza than the nutritional data of the pizza or I wouldn't be eating something like pizza in the first place. The point is that all these regulations are burdensome on small business.

boutons_deux
05-06-2016, 06:41 AM
For you Trump fellators, his con job is becoming blatant (for some of us).

Donald Trump flip flops on taxes, wages as he turns focus to general election

Two days into his general election campaign, Donald Trump has already signaled he may abandon his positions on two major policy issues: a minimum wage increase and tax cuts for the rich.

Trump has never been known (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trumps-rapidly-changing-policy-positions) for his consistency: He took multiple positions on abortion (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/03/donald-trumps-ever-shifting-positions-on-abortion/) in several days last month, and more recently shifted from promising to erase America’s $19 trillion debt in eight years to arguing it was actually a good time to borrow (https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/723536603700969472). Even on his signature issue of immigration, he’s flipped back and forth – sometimes in the same day (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/only-the-voters-can-judge-donald-trumps-horror-show-debate) – on whether he supports certain visas for legal workers.


Take taxes. Trump put out a tax plan last year that included major cuts to income, estate and business taxes for the ultra-wealthy (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trumps-tax-plan-great-donald-trump) along with far less generous cuts for the middle class. Thenonpartisan Tax Policy Center (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/analysis-donald-trumps-tax-plan/full) estimated his plan would cut the tax bill for the top 1 percent of earners by about $275,000 a year on average and for the top 0.1 percent by $1.3 million. The overall cost would be $9.5 trillion over a decade.

“I fight like hell to pay as little as possible,” Trump said at an event announcing his plan in September.

But that was the old Trump. Pressed by CNBC on Thursday as to how he could simultaneously brand himself as a populist who will take on wealthy elites while proposing sweeping tax cuts for billionaires, Trump backed away from his plan.

Trump’s abrupt dismissal of his own tax plan, which he regularly cited on the campaign trail, came a day after he signaled a possible willingness to raise the federal minimum wage, which would be a major reversal from his stance in the primaries.

“I am open to doing something with it, because I don’t like that,” Trump told CNN on Wednesday after being asked if he thought the $7.25 minimum wage should be increased.

This was, to put it mildly, a complete flip flop from his position in the primaries. He repeatedly argued that raising the minimum would move jobs to countries like China. Speaking in the cold language of a businessman looking at his bottom line, Trump even seemed to indicate overall American wages, regardless of the law, were too generous already.

“Taxes too high, wages too high, we’re not going to be able to compete against the world,”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-flip-flops-taxes-wages-he-turns-focus-general-election?cid=sm_fb_lastword

:lol You stupid, ignorant, duped, conned Trump fellators! :lol

Spurminator
05-06-2016, 08:40 AM
Don't know about you but I love me my Chinese food. And it can be very healthy - just depends on what you choose. Can you imagine providing nutritional data for something like dim sum?

I like Chinese food too, but I don't have any problem asking them to be transparent about what's in it. What would prevent a dim sum place from providing nutritional info?


And I don't think these restaurants have to provide nutritional data if they want to stay in business. If I feel like a pepperoni pizza, I'm gonna eat one - no matter what the nutritional data says. I care more about the cost of the pizza than the nutritional data of the pizza or I wouldn't be eating something like pizza in the first place.

That's you. The number of people who want nutritional information for what they eat is growing, and as it becomes more common, the restaurants who don't provide it will look like they're hiding something.

It's not that these customers are health nuts, they will still want pizza and fried chicken.


The point is that all these regulations are burdensome on small business.

So are other standards we hold them to, like the Health Code. They'll figure it out. No one is going to go in the red because of having to write a calorie number next to their menu items.

boutons_deux
05-06-2016, 09:00 AM
"Obama mocked Trump this week for thinking experience with beauty pageants counts as foreign policy experience.
Then, unexpectedly, Trump proved Obama right."

Obama, Trump, and a classic example of life imitating art

“The Republican establishment is incredulous that [Trump] is their most likely nominee – incredulous, shocking,” Obama said (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/05/01/remarks-president-white-house-correspondents-dinner). “They say Donald lacks the foreign policy experience to be president. But, in fairness, he has spent years meeting with leaders from around the world: Miss Sweden, Miss Argentina, Miss Azerbaijan….”

The point, obviously, is that experience with beauty pageants is a poor substitute for actual foreign policy experience. And with this in mind, it was striking to see Trump’s latest interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJjQWJBP2N8) on Fox News late yesterday, where life imitated art. Mid-way through the interview, Bret Baier brought up Russia:

BAIER: About Russia, you were asked yesterday if you’ve ever spoken to Vladimir Putin, and you said, “I don’t want to say.”

TRUMP: Yeah, I have no comment on that. No comment. I was in Russia –

BAIER: But one of the thing people like about is to answer any question.

TRUMP: Yeah, but I don’t want to comment because, let’s assume I did. Perhaps it was personal. You know, I don’t want to hurt his confidence. But I know Russia well. I had a major event in Russia two or three years ago – Miss Universe contest – which is a big, incredible event, and incredible success. I got to meet a lot of people. And you know what? They want to be friendly with the United States. Wouldn’t it be nice if we actually got with somebody?


Oh my.

The obvious point of concern here is that Trump seems to think he has relevant experience with Russia – experience that would help him if he were elected president – because of his role with a beauty pageant held overseas a few years ago.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/obama-trump-and-classic-example-life-imitating-art?cid=sm_fb_maddow

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

pgardn
05-06-2016, 09:12 AM
I'm going to add some fuel to the fire and say something the media hasn't. Another reason people are supporting Trump is because they want to be Trump... they want his lifestyle... or at least to live vicariously through him.

I support him for entirely different reasons though. As long as people vote for him, I don't care why they do it (I think).

Spot on.

And he says things they are thinking but usually don't say anything as its not very civil. The Megan incident, Carly look at that face, damn Mexicans.

He is a demagogue plain and simple.

boutons_deux
05-06-2016, 10:36 AM
People want, probably? maybe? know they can't, won't EVER have, Trump's racist, xenophobic bullshit implemented.

If they vote for Trump because they envy his "lifestyle", then the supporters are really proving themselves stupid. Q E D

boutons_deux
05-06-2016, 10:44 AM
Even O'Reilly knows Trump is a conman

Watch: O'Reilly Admits to Colbert That Trump's 'Anti-Illegal Immigrant Stuff Is B.S.'

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/watch-oreilly-admits-colbert-trumps-anti-illegal-immigrant-stuff-bs

Trump supporters! :lol

boutons_deux
05-06-2016, 01:26 PM
Look who's fellatin Donny now

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRrJxovlo1cN-GU63CmDWl4wI-iyVfCSibqE9FeMiJtlvd-T7dDBw

An endorsement for the onetime ‘cancer on conservatism’

Among the most notable of these speeches, however, came by way of former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), who invited the press to a DC hotel near the White House last July to deliver an anti-Trump stem-winder (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-22/rick-perry-torches-trump-candidacy-as-cancer-on-conservatism-).

“My fellow Republicans, beware of false prophets,” Perry said at the time. “Do not let itching ears be tickled by messengers who appeal to anger, division and resentment. I will not go quiet when this cancer on conservatism threatens to metastasize into a movement of mean-spirited politics that will send the Republican Party to the same place it sent the Whig Party in 1854: the graveyard.”

Perry went on to characterize Trump as “a barking carnival act” who offers a “toxic mix of demagoguery, mean-spiritedness and nonsense that will lead the Republican Party to perdition if pursued.”

Keep all of this in mind when considering what Perry said yesterday. TPM reported (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rick-perry-endorses-trump):

Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) on Thursday endorsed Donald Trump and left the door open to becoming the Republican vice presidential nominee.

“He is not a perfect man. But what I do believe is that he loves this country and he will surround himself with capable, experienced people and he will listen to them,” Perry told CNN. “He wasn’t my first choice, wasn’t my second choice, but he is the people’s choice.” […]

“He is one of the most talented people who has ever run for the president I have ever seen,” Perry told CNN.



When the subject turned to a possible role as Trump’s running mate, the Texas Republican added (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/rick-perry-donald-trump-vice-president-vp-222877), “I am going to be open to any way I can help. I am not going to say no.”

No, of course not. Why say no to partnering with “a barking carnival act” who represents a “cancer on conservatism,” who’s poised to send your party to the “graveyard”?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/endorsement-the-onetime-cancer-conservatism?cid=sm_fb_maddow

:lol Repugs are SO fucked! :lol

DMX7
05-06-2016, 01:37 PM
Perry clearly wants a job. He brings nothing though... Texas is already in the bag for Trump and Texans never really loved him either.

tlongII
05-06-2016, 01:42 PM
boutons is not very good at criticizing Trump.

boutons_deux
05-08-2016, 12:10 PM
‘Choose me’: Sarah Palin says she’s ‘as vetted as anybody in the country’ for Trump’s VP

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/cnn_sotu_palin_vp_160508c-800x430.jpg

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/choose-me-sarah-palin-says-shes-as-vetted-as-anybody-in-the-country-for-trumps-vp/

:lol The Repugs are so fucked. :lol

boutons_deux
05-08-2016, 12:26 PM
Sarah Palin backs Paul Ryan’s primary opponent as GOP civil war deepens


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/sarah-palin-backs-paul-ryans-primary-opponent-as-gop-civil-war-deepens/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol Repugs are so fucked! :lol

Splits
05-08-2016, 01:03 PM
Don't know about you but I love me my Chinese food. And it can be very healthy - just depends on what you choose. Can you imagine providing nutritional data for something like dim sum? And I don't think these restaurants have to provide nutritional data if they want to stay in business. If I feel like a pepperoni pizza, I'm gonna eat one - no matter what the nutritional data says. I care more about the cost of the pizza than the nutritional data of the pizza or I wouldn't be eating something like pizza in the first place. The point is that all these regulations are burdensome on small business.

You really should learn about the topics you spout off about before said spouting.

http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/LabelingNutrition/ucm248731.htm


C1. Where will I see calorie labeling?

Calorie and other nutrition labeling will be required for standard menu items offered for sale in a restaurant or similar retail food establishment that is part of a chain with 20 or more locations

boutons_deux
05-08-2016, 08:12 PM
Donald Trump’s Warning to Paul Ryan Signals Further G.O.P. Discord

Mr. Trump demonstrated little interest in making peace with party leaders like Mr. Ryan who have called on him to more convincingly lay out his commitment to the issues and ideas that have animated the conservative movement for the last generation.

“I’m going to do what I have to do — I have millions of people that voted for me,” Mr. Trump said on ABC’s “This Week.” “So I have to stay true to my principles also. And I’m a conservative, but don’t forget, this is called the Republican Party. It’s not called the Conservative Party.”

If anything, Mr. Trump’s candidacy has thrived because of his resistance to party politics as usual, not in spite of it. He has broken with Republican leadership in Congress on trade, military intervention and immigration policy. And he appears as determined as ever not to fall in line now that he has effectively secured the nomination.

Mr. Trump’s differences with those in the party who think they have earned more of a right to set its political and ideological course have led to a rupture at the time when Republicans would ordinarily be trying to put the messy personal clashes of the primary contests behind them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/09/us/politics/donald-trumps-warning-to-paul-ryan-signals-further-gop-discord.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

:lol Repugs are SO fucked! :lol

boutons_deux
05-08-2016, 08:15 PM
More Than 50 Veterans Denounce Trump For Disrespectfully Using Vets As Political Props


The veterans led by Former Senator Max Cleland said in a statement:


Donald Trump recently discovered a new love for America’s veterans, promising that a Trump administration will ‘treat them really, really well.’

Yet after a publicity stunt earlier this year when he ditched a GOP debate to hold an event on behalf of veterans, his campaign still hasn’t distributed more than half of the $6 million dollars it allegedly raised.

They don’t even know where that money has gone.

And worse, this is part of a long pattern of the real Donald J. Trump, who for over a decade tried to get disabled veterans, legally operating as street vendors, thrown off of Fifth Avenue in New York City.

He said that these Americans, who were simply trying to earn a living in the country they gave so much to defend, were ‘clogging and seriously downgrading the area.’

And yet, even as Donald Trump denigrates our nation’s current veterans, he’s putting our future veterans at risk with a risky and incoherent foreign policy.

Republican and Democratic national security professionals agree that a Trump administration would make America dangerously less safe while reducing its standing and influence in the world.

His embrace of both military adventurism and isolationism, and his support of the use of torture will not only recklessly place our troops in harm’s way, but will dramatically increase the risk to our service members serving in operations overseas.

Trump’s policies are detrimental to the young men and women who volunteer to serve this country, from the moment they join the armed services to the end of their career, civilian or military.

He can’t be trusted, by our veterans or anyone else.

It’s time for Donald Trump to stop using vets as political props, donate the rest of the money he raised and build a real understanding of the needs and concerns of the men and women who have served America.


http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/08/50-veterans-denounce-trump-disrespectfully-vets-political-props.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

:lol The MIC always insisting that they take priority over ALL Americans. What perversity.

TheSanityAnnex
05-08-2016, 08:38 PM
You really should learn about the topics you spout off about before said spouting.

the fucking irony :lmao

Mitch
05-08-2016, 09:34 PM
I honestly think botox deuce will either kill himself or claim he's a trump supporter if the guy wins.

Reck
05-08-2016, 09:41 PM
I honestly think botox deuce will either kill himself or claim he's a trump supporter if the guy wins.

Trump needs to tell Palin to go back to Alaska. That bitch needs to STFU quick.

:lol Being let on CNN so she can challenge and say Ryan's political career is over and asking to be VP. :lmao

Mitch
05-08-2016, 10:02 PM
Trump needs to tell Palin to go back to Alaska. That bitch needs to STFU quick.

:lol Being let on CNN so she can challenge and say Ryan's political career is over and asking to be VP. :lmao

She won't be VP for sure, but Ryan's political career is in danger, tbh. The GOP isn't too happy with him and Nehlen is ahead in the most recent Wisconsin 1st congressional poll - ie the guy challenging Ryan and he's gaining popularity.

Trump talk aside, I think Ryan is about to get humbled for trying to be a "maverick" in the GOP :lol

Here's Nehlen's ad, btw - dude hates ryan's guts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVsuCgYf0U

boutons_deux
05-09-2016, 01:51 PM
Third-party anti-Trump push turns its attention to Romney


The Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol, a prominent figure in Republican politics for many years, apparently isn’t kidding about helping organize a third-party campaign to run against his own party’s presumptive presidential nominee. As regular readers know (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gops-kristol-semi-serious-talk-about-third-party-initiative), Kristol has spent months talking up such an effort, “probably for 2016 only,” and the initiative has moved beyond just random chatter.

“I think the ballot access question is manageable,” Kristol said (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html) in March. “The big question is, who’s the candidate?”

To that end, organizers reached out to former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), who declined (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/anti-trump-forces-start-eyeing-possible-third-party-candidates) and endorsed Donald Trump. Then there was retired Gen. James Mattis, who seemed receptive, but who withdrew (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/kristols-2016-dream-ends-mattis-rules-out-bid)from consideration last week. Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) and former Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) bowed out (http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-third-party-crowd-knows-scheme-isnt.html), too.

A few days ago, attention reportedly shifted to Mitt Romney, according to this Washington Post report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/06/mitt-romney-met-privately-with-william-kristol-who-is-leading-the-effort-to-draft-an-independent-bid/).


In spite of his insistence that he will not run, Mitt Romney is being courted this week by a leading conservative commentator to reconsider and jump into the volatile 2016 presidential race as an independent candidate.

William Kristol, the longtime editor of the Weekly Standard magazine and a leading voice on the right, met privately with the 2012 nominee on Thursday afternoon to discuss the possibility of launching an independent bid, potentially with Romney as its standard-bearer.


Kristol told the Post that the two had an informal chat in a D.C. hotel, asking not only about Romney’s potential interest in another candidacy, but also about whether he’d be willing to support such a campaign in the event he chooses not to run.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/third-party-anti-trump-push-turns-its-attention-romney?cid=sm_fb_maddow

apparently, the rumor of Romeny filing with FEC was false, at least in March:

Within a few minutes, we received the following response:



From:
[email protected] ([email protected])


Sent:
Tue 3/08/16 6:38 PM


To:
[email protected]


Cc:
[email protected]


No, he has not filed for 2016.
Judith Ingram
Press Officer
Federal Election Commission
o: (202) 694-1220
m: (202) 531-2882

http://www.thepostemail.com/2016/03/09/fec-romney-has-not-filed-documents-to-run-for-president/

boutons_deux
05-09-2016, 04:37 PM
In A Rare Moment Of Truth Paul Ryan Admits That The Republican Party Is Falling Apart

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported: (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/ryan-says-he-would-step-down-as-convention-chair-if-trump-asks-b99721843z1-378661491.html)


“He’s the nominee.

I’ll do whatever he wants with respect to the convention,” Ryan said when asked about that scenario in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

“I just want to get to know the guy … we just don’t know each other,” said Ryan, who delivered a political bombshell last Thursday when he said he wasn’t ready yet to support his party’s presumptive nominee.“

I never said never. I just said (not) at this point.

I wish I had more time to get to know him before this happened.

We just didn’t,” he said.“

We have right now a disunified Republican Party.

We shouldn’t sweep it under the rug without addressing it.

That would be to our detriment in the fall,” said Ryan, speaking in an interview that had been scheduled before Trump became the presumptive GOP nominee.

The Republican Party is not going to unify around Donald Trump, and even Paul Ryan can’t massage the truth enough to sell Trump as a good thing for the GOP.

If Trump puts Ryan in a support me or else situation, Speaker Ryan will probably walk away from his co-chair position at the Republican convention.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/09/rare-moment-truth-paul-ryan-admits-republican-party-falling.html

:lol Repugs are SO fucked! :lol

TheSanityAnnex
05-09-2016, 05:00 PM
Actually the fact that you are mongoloid piece of shit who has zero ability to think independently, so you do nothing but parrot talking points provided by the "brain" you all share and take your marching orders from is not ironic, but pathetic.

Joining the inbred circus with cocksucker, rmt, etc is not a badge of honor. You are all shitty worthless people who should do the honorable thing and end your lives. You've stolen enough oxygen from thinking people. Stop breathing

The semi-articulate version of Quetzal-X :lmao

boutons_deux
05-09-2016, 05:34 PM
Trump’s rhetoric on taxes should not be taken at face value
Asked if he’s prepared to raise his own taxes, Trump said at the time, “That’s right. That’s right. I’m OK with it.”

Pundits marveled at Trump’s willingness to embrace economic populism and challenge some of his party’s cherished assumptions – but none of it was true (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-most-popular-position-isnt-close-being-true). When the Trump campaign outlined the candidate’s actual tax plan, it was a ridiculous, multi-trillion-dollar scheme that would slash taxes for the wealthy (http://www.vox.com/2016/3/8/11178872/donald-trump-policies). A Tax Policy Center found (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=2000560) that a low-income taxpayer would get about $128 from Trump’s plan, while those in the top 0.1% would get $1.3 million.

Everyone who took Trump’s rhetoric at face value was misled. What the GOP candidate said and what he actually proposed were practically opposites.

And over the weekend, it happened again (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-09/tax-shift-marks-trump-s-latest-rejection-of-conservative-orthodoxy).

Donald Trump made a break from conservative orthodoxy on Sunday when he backed away from proposing large tax cuts for wealthy Americans.

“On my plan they’re going down. But by the time it’s negotiated, they’ll go up,” the presumptive Republican presidential nominee said on ABC’s This Week. “I am willing to pay more,” he said. “And you know what? The wealthy are willing to pay more. We’ve had a very good run.”
Reading the quote, one might believe Trump is talking about increasing taxes on the wealthy – a popular position with the American mainstream, to be sure – the opposite of one of his policy platform’s key tenets. What’s more, if he did make such a pronouncement, it’d be an extremely important development, both for his campaign and for Republican politics in general.

But a closer look reveals that’s really not what’s happened. A lot of observers appear to have been misled by deceptive rhetoric, which is the same thing that happened in August when Trump talked about raising the wealthy’s taxes shortly before he proposed cutting the wealthy’s taxes.

Many in the media flubbed Trump’s line on the minimum wage (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-line-the-minimum-wage-isnt-what-it-appears-be), and now they’re flubbing his line on taxes, too. In both instances, the candidate’s misleading rhetoric is driving the mistaken reporting.



To get to the bottom on this, consider this exchange (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-donald-trump/story?id=38951757) yesterday between Trump and ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, which is the basis for much of the confusion:

STEPHANOPOULOS: But bottom line, do you want taxes on the wealthy to go up or down?

TRUMP: They will go up a little bit. And they may got up, you know…

STEPHANOPOULOS: But they’re going down in your plan.

TRUMP: No, no, in my plan they’re going down, but by the time it’s negotiated, they’ll go up.
But what does that mean, exactly? The presumptive Republican nominee clarified (https://twitter.com/gwenrocco/status/729672198877806593) on CNN this morning that he’s not proposing a tax increase on the wealthy.

The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent flagged this quote (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/09/sorry-suckers-trump-didnt-actually-shift-on-taxing-rich-and-minimum-wage/) from Trump’s interview this morning: “Now, if I increase it on the wealthy, they’re still going to pay less than they pay now. I’m not talking about increasing from this point. I’m talking about increasing from my tax proposal.”

I sympathize with journalists who fell for Trump’s trick; the candidate has deliberately used confusing language that has muddled the conversation. Last summer, ABC ran a headline (https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/fqESaqOMJ8kCPBWHfxnxljup2b0=/800x0/filters:no_upscale%28%29/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4104562/abcnewsfail.png) that read, “Donald Trump Calls for Higher Taxes for Wealthiest Americans,” right around the time Trump released a plan that calls for the exact opposite. It’s happening again today.

But that’s all the more reason to pay careful attention to the details:

1. Trump has proposed, in writing, a multi-trillion-dollar tax plan that overwhelmingly benefits the wealthiest of the wealthy.

2. When Trump talks about being open to taxes “going up a little bit” for the rich, he’s talking about changes relative to his written proposal. It’s a reference to the negotiations he expects to have with Congress, not a change from the status quo.

3. For Trump, the debate is about the size of the tax break for the wealthy. He believes it should be a massive tax cut, but he’s open to accepting a slightly less massive tax cut.

Greg Sargent added (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/09/sorry-suckers-trump-didnt-actually-shift-on-taxing-rich-and-minimum-wage/), “There is, understandably, a strong temptation on the part of political and media observers to catch candidates out for flip-flopping or changing their positions. In the case of Trump, however, the eagerness to do this risks obfuscating more than it clarifies.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-rhetoric-taxes-should-not-be-taken-face-value?cid=sm_fb_maddow

He's conning his support for whom he wouldn't do jack shit.

And he's trolling the media with all his from-the-hip, loose-lips conflicting bullshit.

Thanks, Repugs!

boutons_deux
05-10-2016, 07:39 AM
Voter Suppression Is the Only Way Donald Trump Can Win

Given his terrible numbers among non-white and young voters, Trump may try to massively suppress Democratic votes.

In the latest CNN poll (http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politics/poll-results-general-election-matchup/index.html) Hillary Clinton is beating Trump 81 percent to 14 percent among non-white voters, a big reason she’s leading Trump 54 percent to 41 percent overall.

“If the 2016 nominee gets no better than Romney’s 17 percent of the nonwhite vote, he or she would need 65 percent of the white vote to win, a level achieved in modern times only by Ronald Reagan in his 1984 landslide,” writes Dan Balz (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-rubio-campaign-blueprint-for-all-the-world-to-see/2015/05/23/6711c5ba-00ca-11e5-8b6c-0dcce21e223d_story.html)in The Washington Post.

“[George W] Bush’s 2004 winning formula — 26 percent of the nonwhite vote and 58 percent of the white vote—would be a losing formula in 2016, given population changes.”

Trump’s support in the primary directly correlated withracial resentment (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/opinion/campaign-stops/the-great-trump-reshuffle.html?smid=tw-share) toward African Americans, Hispanics and Muslims.

“The higher you scored on racial resentment, the more likely you were to support Trump; the more you resented immigrants or professed your white ethnocentrism, the likelier you were to plan to vote for Trump,”

Suppressing votes may not be enough to save Trump, but it doesn’t mean he won’t try. Recent history suggests that we should expect the worst from his campaign.

http://www.thenation.com/article/voter-suppression-is-the-only-way-donald-trump-can-win/

boutons_deux
05-10-2016, 07:41 AM
The striking decline in women’s support for Donald Trump (in 2 graphs)
https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/files/2016/05/tesler_gendertrump1.png&w=1484

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/files/2016/05/tesler_gendertrump2.png&w=1484

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/09/the-striking-decline-in-womens-support-for-donald-trump-in-2-graphs/

boutons_deux
05-10-2016, 07:43 AM
30% - 40% of women still don't rate Trump unfavorably? :lol

Blue Dog Repugs, vote Repug no matter how shitty, hateful, racist, misogynist the candidate.

boutons_deux
05-11-2016, 08:19 AM
Trump, paraphrase: "I'm conning you, every one of you", just like Repugs have for 45 years: gays, guns, God, fabricated external threats, abortion, deficit, debt (while increasing both) as campaign issues. Total, never-ending CON JOB.

A post-policy party finds a post-policy candidate



A source familiar with Trump’s thinking explained that the billionaire businessman was reluctant to add new layers of policy experts now, feeling it would only muddy his populist message that has been hyperfocused on illegal immigration, trade and fighting Islamic extremists.

“He doesn’t want to waste time on policy and thinks it would make him less effective on the stump,” the Trump source said. “It won’t be until after he is elected but before he’s inaugurated that he will figure out exactly what he is going to do and who he is going to try to hire.”



Oh. So, Trump will eventually put together a policy agenda, but not until after the election.

Voters should support the least-experienced, least-prepared presidential candidate of the modern era first, and then he’ll let the public know how he intends to govern.

Why “waste time on policy” when the priority should be ensuring a candidate is “effective on the stump”? It’s the kind of thinking that suggests style must always trump substance, because governing isn’t nearly as important as winning.

“The A-level people, and there are not that many of them to begin with, mostly don’t want to work for Trump.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/post-policy-party-finds-post-policy-candidate?cid=sm_fb_maddow

boutons_deux
05-11-2016, 09:25 AM
Donald Trump More Disliked Than Nickelback

http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/donald-trump-on-abortion.jpg

The GOP presumptive nominee beats cockroaches and hemorrhoids, though

A national poll reveals that presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is viewed less favorably than lice, root canals, hipsters, jury duty, the DMV and even Nickelback.
The poll by Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/05/gop-quickly-unifies-around-trump-clinton-still-has-modest-lead.html) (PPP) shows that Trump is losing to lice by 26 points.

In fairness to Trump, lice has an approval rating above 50 percent

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-wrong-republican-pick-fight-facebook?cid=sm_fb_maddow

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2016, 10:43 AM
Boo, if you think that's bad, you should see YOUR approval rating. Herpes beats you.

boutons_deux
05-11-2016, 10:57 AM
Boo, if you think that's bad, you should see YOUR approval rating. Herpes beats you.

your opinion is as worthless as your knees

boutons_deux
05-11-2016, 03:00 PM
Trump prepared to keep tax returns hidden from public

In the modern era, major-party presidential nominees are expected to make certain disclosures, just as a matter of course. Candidates for the nation’s highest office are expected to release information related to their personal health and public scrutiny of candidates’ tax returns is a given.

In December, Donald Trump more or less met the first of these two tests. His campaign released an unintentionally hilarious letter (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-doctor-candidate-astonishingly-excellent-condition) from Dr. Harold Bornstein, who claimed he’s been Trump’s personal physician since 1980.

The physician insisted the Republican candidate’s “physical strength and stamina are extraordinary” and his recent lab tests results were “astonishingly excellent.” Bornstein added, “If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.”

And what of this fine physical specimen’s tax returns? The Associated Press reported (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/087bc8bc5028405c80fa20cea70be877/ap-interview-trump-narrows-vp-list-he-moves-general) this morning:

Despite pressure, the billionaire also doesn’t expect to release his tax returns before November, citing an ongoing audit of his finances. He said he will release them after the audit ends. But he said that he wouldn’t overrule his lawyers and instruct them to release his returns if the audit hasn’t concluded by November.

“There’s nothing to learn from them,” Trump told The Associated Press in an interview Tuesday. He also has said he doesn’t believe voters are interested.


I can’t speak to what voters may or may not find interesting, but if the AP report is correct, it appears Trump will be the first major-party nominee in the modern era to simply refuse to disclose his tax returns.

Trump, in contrast, is prepared to move forward with no disclosure in this area at all, prompting all kinds of questions about what, exactly, the Republican may be hiding from the public. Is he far less wealthy than he claims to be? Has most of his income come by way of television, rather than the purported success of his business?

We could know the answers – even if Trump is telling the truth about being audited, there’s nothing stopping him from releasing these materials – but according to the GOP candidate, we won’t.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-prepared-keep-tax-returns-hidden-public?cid=sm_fb_maddow

boutons_deux
05-11-2016, 03:20 PM
Corporations still ‘wary’ of sponsoring Republican convention

the New York Times reports (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/09/us/politics/donald-trumps-warning-to-paul-ryan-signals-further-gop-discord.html) that the corporate money still isn’t rolling in.

The large corporations that usually fund both parties’ conventions have grown wary of becoming involved. They are holding back on sponsorships, leaving Cleveland about $7 million short of its $64 million fund-raising goal just 10 weeks before the festivities begin. […]

[S]ome previous corporate sponsors, like Coca-Cola and Walmart, have been reassessing their commitments. Joe Roman, the vice chairman of the Cleveland host committee, said the large national corporations that were needed to close the $7 million gap the city is facing were taking some time to line up.


In March, the gap was about $10 million, suggesting the party is still struggling to get on track.

There is, of course, still time for corporate sponsors to meet the party’s $64 million target, but theTimes’ reporting suggests Republicans aren’t accustomed to having these kinds of problems. If this is no longer about the threat of violence, then it’s probably about the danger of being associated with Donald Trump himself.

Indeed, as we’ve noted (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/corporate-sponsors-think-twice-backing-republican-event), every time Trump speaks, there are probably some corporate public-relations executives sending an email to their bosses saying, “Maybe we ought to scale back this year.”

Carla Eudy, a longtime Republican fundraising consultant, told (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/31/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-national-convention.html) the Times, “I have talked to several people at companies who have said, ‘I’ve always gone to the convention, I’ve always participated at some level, but this year we’re not putting it in our budget, we’re not going, we’re not going to sponsor any of the events going on.’”

corporate sponsors are reluctant to play favorites. When a company like Coca-Cola agrees to help sponsor one major-party convention, it nearly always writes a comparable check to the other party’s convention.

The more businesses pull back from the Republican convention this year, the more likely it is to cause at least some trouble for Dems.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/corporations-still-wary-sponsoring-republican-convention?cid=sm_fb_maddow

boutons_deux
05-12-2016, 08:37 AM
Why Donald Trump’s tax-return defense isn’t working

The presumptive Republican nominee spoke to Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren last night about his position, arguing (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-tax-returns-223101#ixzz48P2UGCA7) that he’d “like to” disclose the tax documents, “hopefully before the election,” but he’s waiting for the end of an IRS audit. The problem with this excuse is that it doesn’t make sense: an IRS audit doesn’t preclude someone from sharing their returns (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/irs-donald-trump_us_56d083b5e4b0871f60eb2c06).

Politico reported (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-tax-returns-223101#ixzz48P2UGCA7):


Anthony Scaramucci, a New York financier who recently backed Trump, told Fox News that the real estate mogul’s reluctance is due to “the complication of the return, the fact that he’s under an audit, he feels that he doesn’t want to give out that information to the general public and have a whole nightmare situation with opposition research trying to pick holes through the return.”


Note, Scaramucci, a prominent Republican fundraiser, just this week signed on as an official member (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/09/anthony-scaramucci-a-top-republican-fundraiser-signs-on-with-trump-campaign/) of Trump’s national finance committee. He’s not, in other words, just some outside observer; Scaramucci is a new member of Team Trump.

And his defense for keeping tax returns hidden from the public is cringe-worthy. The complexity of the documents is irrelevant, as is the IRS audit. As for the notion that opposition researchers might uncover embarrassing information in Trump’s tax materials, that, almost by definition, is the worst of all possible defenses.

In effect, it’s like saying, “I have to keep the documents hidden because the truth might make me look bad.”

If the Republican candidate is waiting for this story to simply fade away, that might take a while. BothHillary Clinton (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/11/trump-prompting-criticism-indicates-he-may-not-release-tax-returns-before-election-day/) and

Mitt Romney (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trump-nothing-learn-tax-returns), :lol:lol:lol:lol serial criminal TAX EVADER

for example, have begun slamming Trump over his refusal to disclose his returns.

Making matters worse, journalists have begun shining a light on the fact that Trump

not only committed to releasing the materials (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-returns_us_5733b130e4b077d4d6f21a20?1tfy24i7mpjy8p vi=) he now wants to keep hidden, :lol :lol :lol

he also blasted Romney in 2012 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/11/donald-trump-is-building-a-giant-beautiful-wall-between-america-and-his-tax-returns/) for delaying the release of his returns. :lol :lol :lol

In other words, we’re dealing with one of those nicely packaged controversies in which a presidential candidate is guilty of secrecy, dishonesty, and hypocrisy – all at the same time.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/why-donald-trumps-tax-return-defense-isnt-working?cid=sm_fb_maddow

CosmicCowboy
05-12-2016, 08:38 AM
Mitt Romney needs to fuck off. Bitchy little sore loser.

boutons_deux
05-12-2016, 08:53 AM
Donald Trump won't be able to have the classiest, most luxurious presidential administration (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/10/1525039/-Donald-Trump-won-t-be-able-to-have-the-classiest-most-luxurious-presidential-administration)

the big names—and plenty of the small ones—in Republican policy don’t want to work for Trump (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-administration-transition-222944):

One former Republican official who worked in the Environmental Protection Agency put it this way: “You’d have to worry about your future career and the way you’re perceived in these things. You just kind of think of how he deals with people. Would you really want to work for him?”


So what’s a Trump administration going to look like if the Paul Wolfowitz types think they’re too good for it?

“The bottom line is Trump will be able to fill these jobs because there is a whole class of people who want these titles so badly it doesn’t matter who is president,” said a former senior George W. Bush administration official.

“But these are B- or C-level people. They are honorable, but not very good.

The A-level people, and there are not that many of them to begin with, mostly don’t want to work for Trump.

He will cut the A-level bench of available policy talent at least in half, if not more.”


You don’t have to praise the big names of the George W. Bush administration to think it would be truly terrifying to see what a B- and C-level administration headed by Donald Trump would look like.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/05/10/1525039/-Donald-Trump-won-t-be-able-to-have-the-classiest-most-luxurious-presidential-administration?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

war criminal Wolfie? Really? :lol

MultiTroll
05-12-2016, 09:00 AM
^^ Fat Bastard got the job of recruiting for Trumps cabinet? :lmao

boutons_deux
05-12-2016, 09:39 AM
this Repug mofo "bucket of warm piss" is as dumb as ever

Has anyone heard from Dan Quayle? Oh wait, there he is now (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/dan-quayle-trump-hillary-clinton-223108).


Hillary Clinton may be a more qualified presidential candidate than Donald Trump “on paper,” former Vice President Dan Quayle said Thursday. But Trump is more qualified in another respect, the Indiana Republican suggested.

“He’s more qualified in the sense that the American people, I think, want an outsider,” Quayle said in an interview with NBC’s “Today,” remarking that he would support him as the Republican Party’s nominee. “And they want an outsider this time. She’s not an outsider, so if you’re looking for an outsider, no, she’s not qualified, and he is.”


It sounds as if the former vice president is arguing that if we take the word “qualified,” and change its meaning so that it’s unrelated to qualifications, then Trump is fully capable and ready to lead – even more so than the Democratic frontrunner.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/dan-quayle-defines-qualified-unusual-way?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Reck
05-12-2016, 10:44 AM
Paul Ryan has assumed the position. Is now sucking Trump dry.

Mitch
05-12-2016, 11:18 AM
It was never a matter of if, only when. He sees how Republicans are disowning the Bush dynasty and had to bend the knee or switch parties. He might make a better Democrat like Webb would make a better Republican.


Paul Ryan has assumed the position. Is now sucking Trump dry.

CosmicCowboy
05-12-2016, 11:26 AM
Trump and Bernie have both pushed their parties left.

Hillary is out of touch with whats going on in her own party and is now stuck to the right of Trump on a couple of issues...:lmao

boutons_deux
05-12-2016, 11:56 AM
Trump and Bernie have both pushed their parties left.

Holy shit, you're dumb mark for the Trump con job.

Bernie is sincere, consistent, has been for the campaign, has been for decades, as a social democrat.

Trump is a con man, changes his con on every topic, even within hours, even on same day.

He won't be able to do any of the "leftist" shit you swallow, and never intended to. His people said he will make up his policies after he's elected. :lol

His suckered followers haven't been "pulled left".

They're still extreme right, racist, misogynist, white supremacy/nationalist, xenophobe, anti-govt, anti-Muslim who have been conned into thinking Trump will accomplish any of the extreme right, bigoted shit he claims, and what they didn't get from establishment Repugs.

And they all will vote in AGAIN the extreme right, racist, misogynist, white supremacy/nationalist, xenophobe, anti-govt, anti-Muslim assholes they put in Congress already. "pulled left"? :lol

CosmicCowboy
05-12-2016, 12:01 PM
go suck Bernies dick, Bookaki.

boutons_deux
05-12-2016, 04:43 PM
Donny hires the best people. Premonitions for his cabinet:

Trump’s butler calls for Obama’s execution

Donald Trump's longtime former butler hates President Barack Obama and thinks he should be killed, according to recent social media rants teeming with profanity and exclamation points.

Anthony Senecal, who worked as Trump's butler for 17 years and was named the in-house historian at the business mogul's Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, has touted his close relationship with his former boss in media interviews. But Senecal feels very differently about the nation's first black president, according to Mother Jones, which posted Thursday his social media rants. Read them here (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/trump-butler-anthony-senecal-facebook-kill-obama).

Senecal, 84, confirmed the posts to Mother Jones. "I wrote that. I believe that," he said. A spokeswoman for the Trump campaign told Mother Jones Senecal had not worked at Mar-a-Lago "for many years."

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trumps-butler-calls-for-obamas-execution/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Trump the Turd attacks flies, maggot-y people.

boutons_deux
05-12-2016, 04:52 PM
I Was Attacked Over Nude Trump Painting

http://img2-azcdn.newser.com/image/1067125-11-20160504082733.jpeg

From death threats to an alleged attack: Artist Illma Gore, whose unflattering pastel drawing of Donald Trump in the buff (http://www.newser.com/story/223722/14m-painting-of-nude-trump-triggers-death-threats.html) is hanging in a gallery in London, says a Trump supporter punched her in the face on a Los Angeles street as she walked near her home on Friday.

Gore, who had just returned from the UK, tells NBC4 (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/trump-artist-punched-face-nude-painting-los-angeles-378062381.html) that a shirtless man around 25 years old, wearing red shorts and a red cap, jumped out of a car, yelled "Trump 2016," hit her, and then laughed.

An Instagram photo (https://www.instagram.com/p/BE6k9q-MLNE/) shows Gore with blood in her eye and plenty of bruising. "She sustained severe injuries," an LAPD rep says. "We are aware of the incident and we are investigating."

http://www.newser.com/story/224582/artist-i-was-attacked-over-nude-trump-painting.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=im

Trump incites, attracts the Very Best Dickless Goons and Bullies in America.

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http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/56bcb8491a00002d00ab2770.jpeg

Artist threatened with lawsuits if she sells nude Donald Trump painting

An infamous nude of Donald Trump (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donaldtrump) has attracted bids of over £100,000 after it went on display at the Maddox Gallery in Mayfair, London, last week, but the artist is being anonymously threatened with legal action if she sells it, due to its resemblance to the Republican presidential hopeful.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/17/nude-donald-trump-painting-illma-gore-lawsuits

TheSanityAnnex
05-12-2016, 05:14 PM
Maddow FTW.

She has her own specific point of view, but is always cogent, and offers some very intelligent commentary.

It is telling that the right has no equivalent, IMO. It is almost as if you have to give up your ability to think critically to be "right-wing".Maddow makes no mention of Clinton and people actually in the intelligence community seem to have more concerns about Clinton than Trump. Maddow FTL.


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With the Republican and Democratic conventions fast approaching, intelligence officials are already mapping out their approach to providing classified briefings to the eventual nominees. It’s a decades-long tradition embedded in the transition of power, but several former high-ranking officials have expressed concerns to ABC News over what they consider “unprecedented” circumstances facing both current front-runners and their capabilities to responsibly handle sensitive intel.


The Briefing Barring unforeseen circumstances, Donald Trump (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/donald-trump.htm) and Hillary Clinton (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/whitehouse/hillary-clinton.htm) are currently closest to securing their parties' nominations at their respective conventions.
According to a former intelligence official involved in past briefing processes, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, after the conventions, President Obama or a leading national security advisor will coordinate with the director of National Intelligence and the CIA to determine the content of an introductory classified briefing for both of the nominees.
“Until somebody’s elected president, most of the information is what I’d call analytical, sophisticated, carefully thought-out thoughts about where things are going, where trend lines are, things to watch,” this former official told ABC News. “It’s more of a description of the landscape and where the landmines are and where the active volcanoes are rather than getting into the capabilities.”
The White House has so far suggested it will not interfere with Clinton or Trump's receiving the briefings, but White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest would not answer whether President Obama is comfortable with Trump's handling classified info.


Concerns Over Trump In the past, Trump has taken to Twitter to promote conspiracy theories (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/issues/conspiracy-theory.htm), was a leading promoter of the "birther" movement, and, with no experience in public office, has never been a recipient of classified or sensitive intelligence.
But in an interview with ABC News, former CIA Director Gen. Mike Hayden said the outgoing president is obligated to provide the briefings to the nominees whether he wants to or not.
“I would share the general concern that people have expressed," Hayden said of Trump’s penchant for what some have described as recklessness, “but you’ve got real constitutional considerations at work here. One of the great powers of this country is the peaceful transfer of power. There are things that need to be done, particularly for a president elect, and you need to go about doing those things even if this particular president-elect might seem a bit more ... I don’t know fill in the blank.”


In a recent interview with The Washington Post, Trump said he was “eager” to start regularly receiving classified briefings.
But House Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Rep. Adam Schiff has questioned the ultimate value of providing Trump classified information. “The practice of providing intelligence briefings to the presidential nominees of both parties is a sound one,” Schiff, D-California, said. “Whether it would do any good is another [question].”
Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency under President Obama, said he has met with Trump to discuss foreign policy and has no doubts about his capacity.
“Mr. Trump is preparing to become the leader of the free world and I have no qualms with him being presented classified information to better prepare him to be that leader,” Flynn said in an interview with ABC News. “The one person in this race who cannot handle classified information is Secretary Clinton. She’s proven that.”
Since leaving his post, Flynn has expressed criticism of both Clinton and President Obama’s handling of foreign policy, but there’s no evidence he was ever pushed out.

Clinton Faces Ongoing Investigation In her capacity as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton had virtually unfettered access to the nation’s top secrets, but her use of a private email server during that time has led to a formal FBI (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/federal-bureau-of-investigation.htm) inquiry about how she may have handled that information, leading some intelligence officials to doubt her judgment.
Flynn argues that Clinton should be ineligible to receive the briefings. “If you mishandled classified information unintentionally you immediately have your clearance suspended -- at a minimum -- until the investigation is complete,” Flynn said. “So Hillary Clinton should not even have access to classified information until this investigation is over.”
The FBI investigation into Clinton's private email server is still ongoing and so far no one has been accused formally of any criminal wrongdoing.
Clinton says she only used her account for unclassified email and that no information in her emails was marked classified at the time she sent or received them.


The former unnamed intelligence official speaking to ABC News said Clinton’s status is “unprecedented” in the history of presidential candidates.
“I don’t really recall any time when I’ve seen such, what I’ll call, ‘willful negligence’ in handling classified information,” the former official said. “I can tell you I have counseled people before on the rules and they ignored the rules and they’ve paid a penalty.”
While it would not weigh in on Trump, the White House maintained President Obama has no doubts about his former secretary of state's again receiving classified briefings.
Clinton and Trump's campaigns did not immediately respond to ABC News' requests for comment.


In the end, this former intelligence official said it is less about whether each candidate would willfully compromise classified information, but how responsibly they would put it to use.
“I think Donald Trump has many secrets, and I think Hillary Clinton does too,” the former intelligence official said. “So I don’t think either of them have a problem with keeping a secret. It’s a question of whether they have the wrong judgment about when to use secret information.”


https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-officials-raise-concerns-over-trump-clinton-receiving-165259850--abc-news-topstories.html

boutons_deux
05-12-2016, 06:40 PM
Rudy Giuliani eyed for controversial GOP ‘commission’

Trump told Fox News the proposed ban was “only a suggestion (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/may/11/us-election-live-sanders-trump-clinton-campaign),” adding, “It hasn’t been called for yet.” I’m not altogether sure what that means – ithas been “called for,” by Trump himself – but this is apparently Trump’s way of making his more outlandish ideas sound more palatable.

Nevertheless, Trump is moving forward with ideas as to how best to implement his “suggestion.” The AP reported (http://elections.ap.org/content/latest-trump-may-ask-ex-ny-mayor-study-muslim-ban) yesterday:

Donald Trump says he may set up a commission to study his immigration policies and his proposed ban on foreign Muslims entering the U.S. The man he may ask to lead the commission is the former New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani, who’s called Trump’s idea of a Muslim ban unconstitutional. […]

He says a commission would examine all those issues, as well as the question of letting in Syrian refugees, and it would be “possibly headed” by Giuliani, the mayor when New York was attacked on 9/11.


Soon after, the New York Times reported (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/05/11/rudolph-giuliani-praises-donald-trumps-proposed-commission-on-radical-islam/?ref=politics) that the former mayor seems to be on board with the plan. “I think the idea of studying how we can best deal with radical Islam, and try to figure how to distinguish between all the good people who are Muslims and the bad ones, is a good idea,” Giuliani told reporters yesterday.

The other way is that this endeavor is absurd and offensive. The idea that a government commission, led by a former mayor who has no background in matters of religion or national security, would tackle “distinguishing” between “good” members of faith tradition and “bad” is so plainly ridiculous and unworkable that the proposal itself is something of a national embarrassment.

The only thing worse than the idea of some kind of McCarthy-like anti-Muslim commission is putting Rudy Giuliani in charge of it. Media Matters pulled together (https://mediamatters.org/research/2016/05/11/trump-considers-tapping-rudy-giuliani-lead-anti-muslim-commission/210357) a list of some of the former mayor’s recent comments on race and diversity, and the list is as ugly as it is long.

We are, however, starting to get a better sense of what a Trump administration might actually look like, and how it might go about achieving some of its goals. So far, the evidence is more than a little alarming.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/rudy-giuliani-eyed-controversial-gop-commission?cid=sm_fb_maddow

CosmicCowboy
05-12-2016, 06:46 PM
Hey bookaki....London's new mayor says there are good Muslims and radicalized Muslims. Is he wrong?

boutons_deux
05-12-2016, 08:19 PM
Hey bookaki....London's new mayor says there are good Muslims and radicalized Muslims. Is he wrong?

why ask me? Figure out some shit for yourself.

spankadelphia
05-12-2016, 11:05 PM
The Democrat party is tearing itself apart. Even moreso than the GOP.

At least the GOP has a light at the end of the tunnel. The useless "cuckservatives" and the traitorous neoco(he)ns are being pushed aside in favor of nationalists/populists, which is exactly what America needs and is a recipe for electoral success for the next several decades.

But the Democrats are facing an existential crisis. Hillary is a neocon warhawk, who nobody likes, not even liberals. But she's the leader of the party and is a capable politician who controls the party machinery and generates massive amounts of cash. But it won't win the election for her, and it looks like she's going to drive the whole Democrat power/money machine right into the ground.

Bernie is more aligned with the party's ideology, but he's an ineffective pushover who could never in a million years lead the party to greatness.

Tough times for Democrats.

boutons_deux
05-12-2016, 11:06 PM
The Democrat party is tearing itself apart. Even moreso than the GOP.

At least the GOP has a light at the end of the tunnel. The useless "cuckservatives" and the traitorous neoco(he)ns are being pushed aside in favor of nationalists/populists, which is exactly what America needs and is a recipe for electoral success for the next several decades.

But the Democrats are facing an existential crisis. Hillary is a neocon warhawk, who nobody likes, not even liberals. But she's the leader of the party and is a capable politician who controls the party machinery and generates massive amounts of cash. But it won't win the election for her, and it looks like she's going to drive the whole Democrat power/money machine right into the ground.

Bernie is more aligned with the party's ideology, but he's an ineffective pushover who could never in a million years lead the party to greatness.

Tough times for Democrats.

:lol Apply to Fox as contributor. They adore liars, ignorant fucks, ideological idiots.

Reck
05-13-2016, 08:55 AM
Supposely there is a recording of Trump impersonating a publicist hyping himself from 20 years ago. :lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-alter-ego-barron/2016/05/12/02ac99ec-16fe-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html

boutons_deux
05-13-2016, 05:12 PM
Trump on his tax rate: ‘None of your business’

this morning the story took an unexpected turn. For quite a while, Trump has suggested he’d be comfortable with disclosure – he specifically said this week he’d “like to (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/why-donald-trumps-tax-return-defense-isnt-working)” disclose the tax documents – but the IRS process is standing in the way. It’s a bogus posture, which he seemed to abandon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGuqua3rv44&) this morning during an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos:

STEPHANOPOULOS: Yes or no: Do you believe voters have a right to see your tax returns before they make a final decision?

TRUMP: I don’t think they do.


He quickly added that he’s willing to “present” the documents anyway, after “the audit ends.”

When the host asked what tax rate he currently pays, the Republican candidate snapped (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0cp7xN626U&feature=youtu.be), “It’s none of your business. You’ll see it when I release. But I fight very hard to pay as little tax as possible.”

There’s no shortage of angles to this – Trump’s hypocrisy, his dishonesty, his reversals from previous commitments – all of which raise questions about what in the world the presumptive GOP nominee is so desperate to hide. For that matter, given how eager Trump is to slash rates for the wealthiest of the wealthy (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-camp-doubles-down-outlandish-tax-plan) – people like Trump himself – it arguably is our “business” just how big a tax break the Republican candidate intends to give himself.

Paul Waldman noted (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/looking-out-no) at the time, “Apparently, Romney feels that if you don’t hire lawyers to help you take advantage of every hidden provision and loophole that might lower your tax bill, you’re some kind of contemptible sucker unworthy of high office.”

As part of this morning’s interview, Trump also said “many presidents (https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/731105316050456576)” have not released their tax returns. Pressed to explain, he said he was referring to pre-1976 presidents.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-his-tax-rate-none-your-business?cid=sm_fb_maddow

:lol What an autocratic, lying asshole. He thinks can dictate to US govt as he dictates to the sycophants he employs.

Warlord23
05-13-2016, 05:15 PM
The video is hilarious. "John Miller" praises Trump for a while, then says "I've seen her" when talking about Carla Bruni, and then starts talking about Trump in the 3rd person again. Trump also stated in court that he used the name John Miller, but completely denies it now. This guy is a total weirdo :lol

rmt
05-13-2016, 05:16 PM
I don't know a single person who doesn't try to pay the least amount of taxes that he/she legally can - including Bernie and his <14% tax rate.

boutons_deux
05-13-2016, 05:22 PM
I don't know a single person who doesn't try to pay the least amount of taxes that he/she legally can - including Bernie and his <14% tax rate.

Bernie had nothing to hide, and released his.

Bishop Gekko had to hide his tax evasion crimes, and I bet Trump has been LYING about being "really rich", and is lying about "after the IRS audit".

TheSanityAnnex
05-13-2016, 05:37 PM
Bernie had nothing to hide, and released his.

Bishop Gekko had to hide his tax evasion crimes, and I bet Trump has been LYING about being "really rich", and is lying about "after the IRS audit".

Peanuts compared to the lies of his Democratic counterpart.

Spurminator
05-13-2016, 05:45 PM
I don't know a single person who doesn't try to pay the least amount of taxes that he/she legally can - including Bernie and his <14% tax rate.

This is always an interesting comment, and I don't mean to assume anything about you, but it typically comes from the same people who complain about lazy moochers stealing from taxpayers by taking advantage of as much of the entitlements they legally can.

boutons_deux
05-15-2016, 05:30 PM
http://www.truthdig.com/images/made/images/cartoonuploads/The_Megaphone_1000_590_638.jpg

boutons_deux
05-15-2016, 05:32 PM
RNC Chair: Nobody Cares How Awful Trump Has Been To Women


http://cdn.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/15102211/Reince-Priebus-1024x692.jpg

In its effort to rally behind Donald Trump as the presumptive nominee, the Republican Party is embracing a new messaging strategy: None of the terrible things Trump has said or done matter to anybody.

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said as much Sunday morning. On Fox News Sunday, Chris Wallace asked Priebus about the Saturday New York Times story (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html) cataloging multiple times Trump has mistreated women in private. “Does that bother you?” Wallace asked.

“Well, you know, a lot of things bother me, Chris,” he replied, “and obviously I’m the wrong person to be asking that particular question.” When Wallace pointed out that he was the chairman of the party and this was the nominee, Priebus continued, “What I would say is we’ve been working on this primary for over a year, Chris, and I’ve got to tell you. I think that all these stories that come out — and they come out every couple weeks — people just don’t care.

“I don’t think Donald Trump — and his personal life — is something that people are looking at and saying, ‘Well, I’m surprised that he’s had girlfriends in the past.’ It’s not what people look at Donald Trump for, so I think the traditional playbook and analysis really don’t apply.”

On ABC’s This Week, Priebus repeated almost the identical line when also challenged about Trump refusing to release his tax returns and a recent Washington Post report that Trump pretended to be his own press person. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-alter-ego-barron/2016/05/12/02ac99ec-16fe-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html) “After a year of dealing with this primary one-on-one… I don’t think the traditional playbook applies, John. We’ve been down this road for a year, and it doesn’t apply. He’s rewritten the playbook.”
He added, “People don’t look at Donald Trump as to whether or not he releases his taxes or what this story was of 30 years ago.

People look at Donald Trump and say, ‘Is this person going to cause an earthquake in Washington, D.C. and make something happen?’ That is it. That’s how he is being judged by the American people, so all these things that we’ve been analyzing for a year and that Mitt Romney’s obsessing over, it hasn’t done a thing.”

Moments later, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), who has endorsed Trump and advises him on national security issues, echoed the same sentiment.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/05/15/3778466/priebus-trump-women/

boutons_deux
05-16-2016, 05:28 AM
Meet Donald Trump’s New Energy Adviser


Kevin Cramer calls himself a climate-change skeptic yet he might support a carbon tax


Cramer, who has expressed support for a small carbon tax to replace the Clean Power Plan

(iow, just fuckover whatever the Knitter has done),

said he may offer Trump advice on climate change that challenges the candidate’s assertions about it being a hoax promoted by Democrats.

“He can do all that if he wants,” Cramer said of Trump’s climate position in a lengthy interview. “But my advice would be, while I’m a skeptic, as well, he is a product of political populism, and political populism believes that there needs [to be] some addressing of climate change.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/meet-donald-trump-s-new-energy-adviser/

Effective populism :lol (politicians actually do what the populus prefers and wants) is dead in USA. Citizen preferences almost ALWAYS get overridden by corrupted, whore politicians doing what their corrupt big donors want.

CosmicCowboy
05-16-2016, 01:43 PM
This is always an interesting comment, and I don't mean to assume anything about you, but it typically comes from the same people who complain about lazy moochers stealing from taxpayers by taking advantage of as much of the entitlements they legally can.

I'm a little perplexed by your position. We are talking about following the law and filing an accurate tax return based on that law. Are you proposing that it is morally wrong to take legal deductions and attempt to not pay more tax than one is obligated by law to pay? That one should willfully pay more tax than is due?

CosmicCowboy
05-16-2016, 01:50 PM
Meet Donald Trump’s New Energy Adviser


Kevin Cramer calls himself a climate-change skeptic yet he might support a carbon tax


Cramer, who has expressed support for a small carbon tax to replace the Clean Power Plan

(iow, just fuckover whatever the Knitter has done),

said he may offer Trump advice on climate change that challenges the candidate’s assertions about it being a hoax promoted by Democrats.

“He can do all that if he wants,” Cramer said of Trump’s climate position in a lengthy interview. “But my advice would be, while I’m a skeptic, as well, he is a product of political populism, and political populism believes that there needs [to be] some addressing of climate change.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/meet-donald-trump-s-new-energy-adviser/

Effective populism :lol (politicians actually do what the populus prefers and wants) is dead in USA. Citizen preferences almost ALWAYS get overridden by corrupted, whore politicians doing what their corrupt big donors want.




I don't think anyone denies anthropogenic climate effect. The argument is over degree.

boutons_deux
05-16-2016, 02:00 PM
I don't think anyone denies anthropogenic climate effect. The argument is over degree.

There are plenty of Your People who still say:

AGW is joke and hoax,

an IPCC world-wide conspiracy,

"climate always changes", etc, etc.

And of course, the Your Repug politicians have and will block ALL attempts to reduce GHG, etc, etc.

ducks
05-16-2016, 02:03 PM
what about making a lot of rules for people in the usa about air pollution then winds blow the Canada and mexico air in az and then they put more rules in place for businesses in az
more rules will not fix the quality of the air because it blows in from MEXICO!!!!

boutons_deux
05-16-2016, 02:14 PM
Little Is Off Limits as Donald Trump Plans Attacks on Hillary Clinton’s Character

Donald J. Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/donald-trump-on-the-issues.html?inline=nyt-per) plans to throw Bill Clinton (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/bill_clinton/index.html?inline=nyt-per)’s infidelities in Hillary Clinton (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/hillary-clinton-on-the-issues.html?inline=nyt-per)’s face on live television during the presidential debates this fall, questioning whether she enabled his behavior and sought to discredit the women involved.

Mr. Trump will try to hold her accountable for security lapses at the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and for the death of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens there.

And he intends to portray Mrs. Clinton as fundamentally corrupt, invoking everything from her cattle futures trades in the late 1970s to the federal investigation into her email practices (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/12/us/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-james-comey.html) as secretary of state.

Drawing on psychological warfare tactics that Mr. Trump used to defeat “Lyin’ Ted” Cruz, “Little Marco” Rubio and “Low-Energy” Jeb Bush in the Republican primaries, the Trump campaign is mapping out character attacks on the Clintons to try to increase their negative poll ratings and bait them into making political mistakes, according to interviews with Mr. Trump and his advisers.

Another goal is to win over skeptical Republicans, since nothing unites the party quite like castigating the Clintons. Attacking them could also deflect attention from Mr. Trump’s vulnerabilities, such as his treatment of women (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?ref=politics), some Trump allies say.

For Mrs. Clinton, the coming battle is something of a paradox. She has decades of experience and qualifications, but it may not be merit that wins her the presidency — it may be how she handles the humiliations inflicted by Mr. Trump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&ncid=newsltushpmg00000003&_r=0

Spurminator
05-16-2016, 02:23 PM
I'm a little perplexed by your position. We are talking about following the law and filing an accurate tax return based on that law. Are you proposing that it is morally wrong to take legal deductions and attempt to not pay more tax than one is obligated by law to pay? That one should willfully pay more tax than is due?

As long as we're not talking about tax havens, no I don't think it's morally wrong to take as many deductions as you are legally entitled to.

I'm just observing that some people seem a lot quicker to rush to defend billionaires for taking advantage of deductions and tax benefits, while turning around and criticizing the 47% who either don't pay taxes or receive entitlements as lazy moochers. It's all legal, right?

RandomGuy
05-16-2016, 03:38 PM
Maddow makes no mention of Clinton and people actually in the intelligence community seem to have more concerns about Clinton than Trump. Maddow FTL.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-officials-raise-concerns-over-trump-clinton-receiving-165259850--abc-news-topstories.html

Confirmation bias, meet data, data meet confirmation bias.

Meh, as a former intel guy, his remarks, and the reporting read fairly even handed.

Unless, of course you are a partisan hack looking to make a point. Then it "seems like" the guy was more critical of X than Y.

boutons_deux
05-16-2016, 03:53 PM
Republican leader: Trump’s alter ego ‘a little odd’

Imagine an alternate recent history. Imagine if, on Friday morning, Donald Trump were asked about the times he pretended to be his own publicist when talking to reporters, and he replied, “You know, ‘John Miller’ and ‘John Barron’ were jokes that went awry. This was years ago and I was just kidding around.”

Bizarre fakery scandal hurts Trump character

The proof that Trump created a bizarre alter ego (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-alter-ego-barron/2016/05/12/02ac99ec-16fe-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html) for himself still would have been a story – if you’re pretending to be someone else in order to feed praise about yourself to reporters, you probably have some issues – but it probably wouldn’t have been quite as captivating a story.

Except the Republican candidate just can’t help himself. Trump felt compelled to lie reflexively, denying what he’s already admitted, and pretending his voice on a recording isn’t really his.

The new challenge is coming up with a defense. Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, for example, hasn’t quite figured out exactly what he wants to say on the subject. CBS’s John Dickerson asked Priebus (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-transcripts-may-15-2016-priebus-gates-king-blackburn-collins/) about this yesterday on “Face the Nation.”

DICKERSON: Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask you about a report that Donald Trump in the 1990s served as his own spokesman under another name. What do you make of that?

PRIEBUS: It’s just – it’s a little bit odd, but I will just tell you that I think, of all the things facing this country right now, and after being through this primary for a year, I can assure you that that particular issue is not going to move the electorate.


Maybe, maybe not.

Trump has no record of public service, and no real policy platform, so voters are left to evaluate the presumptive Republican nominee on some of his more personal qualities.

The fact that he pretended to be his own publicist, making up an alter ego to brag to reporters about his professed greatness in third person, only to lie about it years later, might very well move some of the electorate.
Paul Manafort, one of the Trump campaign’s top aides, tried a slightly different tack (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1605/15/sotu.01.html) with CNN’s Jake Tapper:


TAPPER: In 1990, under oath, he testified that he did use the name John Barron. And in 1991, he told People magazine that he did use the name John Miller. So, this has already been admitted previously. I don’t understand why now.

MANAFORT: I don’t – I don’t know those facts to be true or not. I just know that he said it’s not him. I believe him. I don’t even know the relevance of this, frankly, other than it’s 25 years old…. Why the media is spending so much time going back 25 years old to talk about a People magazine interview – article – tape that may or may not be Trump, totally irrelevant.


That might be a decent response, were it not for a few glaring problems.

First, Manafort believes the recording of Trump isn’t a recording of Trump, which is a little silly.

Second, again, if all we have to judge Trump on is the force of his personality, it’s relevant for Americans to know he’s the kind of guy who makes up alter egos in order to pretend to be his own publicist.

Third, he lied about this a few days ago, not 25 years ago. When presidential candidates get caught lying in the middle of a campaign season, it’s “relevant.”

And finally, as Tapper was quick to remind the candidate’s aide, Donald Trump has spent a fair amount of time recently making the case that Bill Clinton’s sex life in the 1990s is of great interest in 2016 – and Bill Clinton isn’t even a candidate.

In other words, as Team Trump sees it, Americans should care about Bill Clinton’s misdeeds from 25 years ago, but not Donald Trump’s behavior from the same period.

The Republican candidate’s allies have had a few days to come up with a compelling explanation for Trump lying about his bizarre alter ego. So far, they evidently haven’t come up with much.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/republican-leader-trumps-alter-ego-little-odd?cid=sm_fb_maddow

come on, RMT, TLONG, etc, SPIN Trump yet again on his hilarious bullshit and lies. Your Guy obviously has a disordered personality. He's a mental sicko, so what does that make you as his supporters, supporters of a mentally ill person for Pres?

boutons_deux
05-16-2016, 06:00 PM
Fox News Helps Trump Try To Con America Into Believing He’s Bernie Sanders

Trump said, “I mean, I view myself as a person that, like everybody else, is fighting for survival. :lol :lol

I, that’s all I view myself as. And I really view myself now as somewhat of a messenger… :lol :lol

You know, this is, um … This is a massive thing that’s going on.

These are millions and millions of people that have been disenfranchised from this country.” :lol :lol

All that was missing from Trump’s comments was a call for a political revolution. Donald Trump is such a political parasite that he is trying to steal the identity of Sen. Bernie Sanders.

The truth about Trump is that he has never had to fight for anything.

Trump started out, not with a $1 million loan, but $40 million when he became president of his father’s real estate company. That’s right.

Trump didn’t even have to start his own business. His successful business was handed to him by his father.

One couldn’t create a person who is more different from Sen. Bernie Sanders if they tried, but here is Trump trying to pull the wool over the eyes of voters are across the United States of America. The logic behind Trump’s ploy is simple.

He believes that if he can capture the supporters of Sanders and combine them with his Republican supporters, he’ll beat Hillary Clinton.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/16/fox-news-helps-trump-con-america-believing-bernie-sanders.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/16/fox-news-helps-trump-con-america-believing-bernie-sanders.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

boutons_deux
05-16-2016, 06:01 PM
WSJ Publishes Pro-Trump Op-Ed Without Disclosing Its Author Works For Trump Campaign

The Wall Street Journal published a pro-Donald Trump op-ed without disclosing that its author, Anthony Scaramucci, works as part of the Trump campaign’s national finance committee.

The Journal wrote that Scaramucci is “the founder and co-managing partner of SkyBridge Capital,” failing to mention that he joined (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/09/anthony-scaramucci-a-top-republican-fundraiser-signs-on-with-trump-campaign/) the Trump campaign as part of Trump’s “nascent national finance committee.” According to The Washington Post, Scaramucci was “one of the first traditional bundlers to join the Trump campaign.”

In his May 15 op-ed, titled, “The Entrepreneur’s Case For Trump,” Scaramucci hyped (http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-entrepreneurs-case-for-trump-1463344997?mod=trending_now_) Trump as a “pragmatic entrepreneur,” “team builder,” and a candidate with “empathy” who can win. Scaramucci concluded his piece urging his “fellow Republicans to listen to the will of people” and “unite not only for the good of the party, but for the good of the nation”.

Trump responded to Scaramucci’s op-ed, tweeting (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/732274340188852224), “Thank you, Anthony Scaramucci”:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05/16/wsj-publishes-pro-trump-op-ed-without-disclosing-its-author-works-trump-campaign/210448?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MediaMattersForAmerica-CountyFair+%28Media+Matters+for+America+-+Blog%29

DMX7
05-16-2016, 08:56 PM
The video is hilarious. "John Miller" praises Trump for a while, then says "I've seen her" when talking about Carla Bruni, and then starts talking about Trump in the 3rd person again. Trump also stated in court that he used the name John Miller, but completely denies it now. This guy is a total weirdo :lol

The part where he says, "Well she [Madonna] called and wanted to go out with him [Trump]... that, I can tell you" was so vintage Trump it had me literally laughing out loud.

boutons_deux
05-17-2016, 12:48 PM
The enthusiastic embrace of ignorance

President Obama delivered a powerful commencement address at Rutgers University over the weekend, taking some time to celebrate knowledge and intellectual pursuits.

“Facts, evidence, reason, logic, an understanding of science – these are good things,”

the president said (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/obama-sends-pointed-shots-across-gops-bow), implicitly reminding those who may have forgotten.

“These are qualities you want in people making policy.”

He added,

“Class of 2016, let me be as clear as I can be. In politics, and in life, ignorance is not a virtue. It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about. That’s not ‘keeping it real,’ or ‘telling it like it is.’ That’s not challenging ‘political correctness.’ That’s just not knowing what you’re talking about.”
Donald Trump heard this and apparently took it personally. The presumptive Republican nomineeresponded last night (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/732377163505225728) with arguably the most important tweet of the 2016 presidential campaign to date:

“ ‘In politics, and in life, ignorance is not a virtue.’ This is a primary reason that President Obama is the worst president in U.S. history!”


I assumed someone would eventually tell the GOP candidate why this was unintentionally hilarious, prompting him to take it down, but as of this morning, Trump’s message remains online.

In case it’s not blisteringly obvious, candidates for national office generally don’t argue publicly that ignorance is a virtue. But Donald Trump is a different kind of candidate, offering an enthusiastic, albeit unconventional, embrace of ignorance.

There’s been a strain of anti-intellectualism in Republican politics for far too long, and it comes up far too often.

House Speaker Paul Ryan last month dismissed (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/paul-ryans-curious-case-against-expertise) the role of “experts” in policy debates;

former President George W. Bush and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker have publicly mocked (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/walker-embraces-familiar-anti-intellectualism) those who earn post-graduate degrees;

Jeb Bush last year complained (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/jeb-bush-balks-obamas-big-syllable-words) about Democrats using too many “big-syllable words.”

As a rule, prominent GOP voices prefer to exploit conservative skepticism about intellectual elites to advance their own agenda or ambitions. They don’t celebrate stupidity just for the sake of doing so; anti-intellectualism is generally seen as a tool to guide voters who don’t know better.

Trump, however, has come to embody an alarming attitude: ignorance is a virtue.

If the president believes otherwise, it must be seen as proof of his awfulness. The Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee intends to lead a movement of those who revel in their lack of knowledge.

History will not be kind.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-enthusiastic-embrace-ignorance?cid=sm_fb_maddow

boutons_deux
05-17-2016, 01:27 PM
Republican Tom Anderson, who was named Monday as Trump’s press representative in the state, was convicted in 2007 (https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2007/July/07_crm_489.html) of bribery, extortion, money laundering and conspiracy for accepting bribes from a private prison company in exchange for advancing the company’s interests in the Alaska legislature.

He served four years in federal prison and was released in 2011.
Anderson was listed as the press contact on Monday’s announcement naming an assortment of state Republicans to Trump Alaska 2016 (https://www.adn.com/article/20160516/donald-trump-campaign-unveils-alaska-supporters-including-treadwell-mcguire), the campaign organization for the presumptive GOP nominee

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-alaska-felon_us_573a9252e4b077d4d6f3e279?0m5fo0apxyy0evcx r&

TheSanityAnnex
05-17-2016, 02:46 PM
Republican Tom Anderson, who was named Monday as Trump’s press representative in the state, was convicted in 2007 (https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2007/July/07_crm_489.html) of bribery, extortion, money laundering and conspiracy for accepting bribes from a private prison company in exchange for advancing the company’s interests in the Alaska legislature.


Smart move by Trump, now Hillary can't hire him.

DMX7
05-17-2016, 03:58 PM
boutons_deux, you are so biased. You've had it out for Mr. Trump since the beginning. If you gave the man a fair shake, you would appreciate all the great things he can do for our country. We have to take our country back!

boutons_deux
05-17-2016, 05:58 PM
appreciate all the great things he can do for our country

:lol you stupid fuck

ducks
05-17-2016, 06:01 PM
:lol you stupid fuck

he will do more for the country then BOUTONS_DEUX
hell he already does by paying more taxes then you

DMX7
05-17-2016, 07:14 PM
he will do more for the country then BOUTONS_DEUX
hell he already does by paying more taxes then you

So true. boutons_deux is probably just another taker.

boutons_deux
05-18-2016, 06:35 PM
The enthusiastic embrace of ignorance

President Obama delivered a powerful commencement address at Rutgers University over the weekend, taking some time to celebrate knowledge and intellectual pursuits.

“Facts, evidence, reason, logic, an understanding of science – these are good things,”

the president said (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/obama-sends-pointed-shots-across-gops-bow), implicitly reminding those who may have forgotten.

“These are qualities you want in people making policy.”

He added,

“Class of 2016, let me be as clear as I can be. In politics, and in life, ignorance is not a virtue. It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about. That’s not ‘keeping it real,’ or ‘telling it like it is.’ That’s not challenging ‘political correctness.’ That’s just not knowing what you’re talking about.”
Donald Trump heard this and apparently took it personally. The presumptive Republican nomineeresponded last night (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/732377163505225728) with arguably the most important tweet of the 2016 presidential campaign to date:


“ ‘In politics, and in life, ignorance is not a virtue.’ This is a primary reason that President Obama is the worst president in U.S. history!”


I assumed someone would eventually tell the GOP candidate why this was unintentionally hilarious, prompting him to take it down, but as of this morning, Trump’s message remains online.

In case it’s not blisteringly obvious, candidates for national office generally don’t argue publicly that ignorance is a virtue. But Donald Trump is a different kind of candidate, offering an enthusiastic, albeit unconventional, embrace of ignorance.

There’s been a strain of anti-intellectualism in Republican politics for far too long, and it comes up far too often.

House Speaker Paul Ryan last month dismissed (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/paul-ryans-curious-case-against-expertise) the role of “experts” in policy debates;

former President George W. Bush and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker have publicly mocked (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/walker-embraces-familiar-anti-intellectualism) those who earn post-graduate degrees;

Jeb Bush last year complained (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/jeb-bush-balks-obamas-big-syllable-words) about Democrats using too many “big-syllable words.”

As a rule, prominent GOP voices prefer to exploit conservative skepticism about intellectual elites to advance their own agenda or ambitions. They don’t celebrate stupidity just for the sake of doing so; anti-intellectualism is generally seen as a tool to guide voters who don’t know better.

Trump, however, has come to embody an alarming attitude: ignorance is a virtue.

If the president believes otherwise, it must be seen as proof of his awfulness. The Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee intends to lead a movement of those who revel in their lack of knowledge.

History will not be kind.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-enthusiastic-embrace-ignorance?cid=sm_fb_maddow




OBAMA ALIENATES MILLIONS WITH INCENDIARY PRO-KNOWLEDGE REMARKS

http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/ObamaRutgers-1200.jpg

NEW BRUNSWICK, NEW JERSEY — President Obama handed the Republican Party a gift for the general election by making a series of offensive pro-knowledge remarks at Rutgers University over the weekend, a leading Republican official said on Monday.

According to Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, the President’s inflammatory comments, in which he offered full-throated praise for such controversial fields of knowledge as math and science, are sure to come back to haunt the Democrats in November.

“If President Obama was trying to alienate millions of Americans in one speech, mission accomplished,” Priebus told Fox News. “When I watched him speak, I said to myself, ‘Well, Christmas came early this year.’ ”

While many Republicans expected Obama to walk back his ill-advised praise of knowledge, facts, and evidence, the White House as of Monday morning had refused to do so.

“The President seems to be doubling down on this, which is not surprising,” Priebus said. “This is a man who never met a fact he didn’t like.”

The R.N.C. chairman said that the Party was already creating negative ads that would make extensive use of the President’s polarizing pro-knowledge rant.

“This fall, we will ask the American people, ‘Do you want four more years of knowledge, or do you want something else?’ ”

Priebus said. “Because the Republican Party has something else.”

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/obama-alienates-millions-with-incendiary-pro-knowledge-remarks?intcid=mod-most-popular (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/obama-alienates-millions-with-incendiary-pro-knowledge-remarks?intcid=mod-most-popular)

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 04:00 AM
The media’s latest Trump ‘narrative’ is plainly wrong

Some of the political media establishment has apparently settled on a new “narrative”: Donald Trump will appeal to Democrats by breaking with Republican orthodoxy and endorsing some progressive goals. It might be a compelling thesis, if it were in any way true.

The Washington Post got the ball rolling (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-donald-trump-is-running-to-the-left-of-hillary-clinton/2016/05/09/ebde82da-147c-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html) last week with a provocative, attention-getting headline: “How Donald Trump is running to the left of Hillary Clinton.” As proof, the article noted, among other things, Trump’s “America First” foreign policy, and his willingness to shift “to the left on the minimum wage and tax policy.”

The problem, of course, is much of this is factually incorrect. Given its historical underpinnings (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-invokes-infamous-america-first-slogan-675190851964), there’s nothing liberal about Trump’s “America First” vision, and the media hype surrounding Trump’s purported shifts on the minimum wage (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-rhetoric-taxes-should-not-be-taken-face-value) and tax policy (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-rhetoric-taxes-should-not-be-taken-face-value) turned out to be completely wrong. The Post’s entire thesis struggled under scrutiny (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/10/trump_is_not_running_to_clinton_s_left_just_stop.h tml).

And yet, there it was again (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/us/politics/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-campaign.html) in the New York Times yesterday.

On a range of issues, Mr. Trump seems to be taking a page from the Sanders playbook, expressing a willingness to increase the minimum wage, suggesting that the wealthy may pay higher taxes than under his original proposal, attacking Mrs. Clinton from the left on national security and Wall Street, and making clear that his opposition to free trade will be a centerpiece of his general election campaign.

As Mr. Trump lays the groundwork for his likely showdown with Mrs. Clinton, he is staking out a series of populist positions that could help him woo working-class Democrats in November.



Again, if these observations were rooted in fact, the thesis might have merit, but it’s important not to fall for shallow hype and bogus narratives.

Trump did not endorse a minimum-wage hike; he actually said there shouldn’t be a federal minimum wage at all (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-rhetoric-taxes-should-not-be-taken-face-value).

He did not call for higher taxes on the wealthy; he proposed literally the exact opposite (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-tax-cut-flip-flop-turns-out-be-mirage).
And far from “attacking Mrs. Clinton from the left on … Wall Street,” a few hours after the Times article was published,

Trump insisted (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-kim-jong-un_us_573b86f2e4b0aee7b8e83308) he would repeal Dodd-Frank reforms – which represents an attack from the right, not the left.
The Times sees Trump “staking out a series of populist positions,”

but there’s nothing even remotely populist about

massive tax breaks for the wealthy,

repealing Wall Street safeguards,

opposing an increase to the federal minimum wage, and even

opening the door to entitlement cuts (http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-adviser-says-hes-open-to-entitlement-program-changes-1462997756).

It’s easy to get the impression that the media likes the idea – not the reality, but the idea – of Trump having broad national appeal, enough to woo disaffected Democrats and Bernie Sanders’ most ardent backers, and defeat Clinton in a general election. But the thesis is belied by reality.

Trump’s platform – on the economy, on immigration, on taxes, on policies towards women, on race, on torture – offers literally nothing for progressive voters, which is probably why Sanders has said he’s prepared to fight as hard as he can in the coming months to ensure Trump’s defeat.

To be sure, favorable media coverage might advance Trump’s cause on his behalf, and if the public is led to believe the Republican really is “running to the left of Hillary Clinton” and “staking out a series of populist positions,” it might actually help the presumptive GOP nominee win.

But that doesn’t make the coverage true.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-medias-latest-trump-narrative-plainly-wrong?cid=sm_fb_maddow

DMX7
05-19-2016, 12:48 PM
Look at the polls; he's already making up ground on Hillary. In fact, some national polls have him ahead of Hillary.

CosmicCowboy
05-19-2016, 12:51 PM
Look at the polls; he's already making up ground on Hillary. In fact, some national polls have him ahead of Hillary.

Just common sense. Trump is the only Republican candidate and supporters of others are consolidating behind him. Same will happen with Hillary when she gets rid of Bernie. The current polls are misleading.

DMX7
05-19-2016, 01:54 PM
Just common sense. Trump is the only Republican candidate and supporters of others are consolidating behind him. Same will happen with Hillary when she gets rid of Bernie. The current polls are misleading.

But Bernie is beating Trump in the head-to-head polls vs. Trump... basically all of them.

CosmicCowboy
05-19-2016, 01:55 PM
But Bernie is beating Trump in the head-to-head polls vs. Trump... basically all of them.

Hillary will beat him too after the convention.

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 01:58 PM
Look at the polls; he's already making up ground on Hillary. In fact, some national polls have him ahead of Hillary.

Polls? Fox and Rasmussen? Holy fucking shit :lol

CosmicCowboy
05-19-2016, 02:07 PM
Polls? Fox and Rasmussen? Holy fucking shit :lol

Funny how Bookaki has suddenly become a Hillary lover.

DMX7
05-19-2016, 02:42 PM
Hillary will beat him too after the convention.

If I had to place a bet, I would bet on Hillary to win. I'm just saying I wouldn't totally write him off. He's a wild card. He could pull off a shocker or totally flame out and get crushed in the election. We will see...

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 02:54 PM
Donald Trump, president of the Confederacy: The Southern strategy created the GOP civil war

A decades-long pattern of racists appeals has left the Republican Party with no one but the racists

There are two consistent themes about the American right-wing in the Age of Obama.

First, racism and conservatism is now one and the same thing.

Second, the Republican Party is the United States’ largest white identity organization.

The ascendance of Donald Trump and his coronation as the presumed 2016 Republican presidential candidate is the logical outcome of a several decades-long pattern of racism, nativism, and bigotry by the American right-wing and its news entertainment disinformation machine.

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/17/donald_trump_president_of_the_confederacy_the_sout hern_strategy_created_the_gop_civil_war/

Mitch
05-19-2016, 02:54 PM
If I had to place a bet, I would bet on Hillary to win. I'm just saying I wouldn't totally write him off. He's a wild card. He could pull off a shocker or totally flame out and get crushed in the election. We will see...

His only shot is somehow taking the lion's share of California, tbh. Then it'll be close enough that the super dels will have to almost unanimously go with one candidate - that's Bern's only shot really.

CosmicCowboy
05-19-2016, 03:04 PM
If I had to place a bet, I would bet on Hillary to win. I'm just saying I wouldn't totally write him off. He's a wild card. He could pull off a shocker or totally flame out and get crushed in the election. We will see...

One thing we do know, it's going to be entertaining as hell..:lol

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 03:14 PM
One thing we do know, it's going to be entertaining as hell..:lol

From Trump's side, it's going to be just like his shit so far, racist, xenophobic, misogynist, America First supremacy/bullying, insults, name-calling, and above all LIE after LIE after LIE, with plenty of gaslighting and flip flopping.

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 03:15 PM
Funny how Bookaki has suddenly become a Hillary lover.

Link?

Hilarious how CosmicParasite has always been a "I'm Really Rich" bullshitter.

CosmicCowboy
05-19-2016, 03:31 PM
Link?

Hilarious how CosmicParasite has always been a "I'm Really Rich" bullshitter.

And that's supposed to be an insult? Don't be jealous, Boo.

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 03:38 PM
Time to Press Donald on Whether He Raped His Wife?


http://a5.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/c_fill,fl_keep_iptc,g_faces,h_365,w_652/dwmomv94ne0wo0aixmlz.jpg


Trump himself has now moved on from immigration politics to dredging up allegations about Bill Clinton (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-bill-clinton-rape-allegations) that range from unsubstantiated to discredited to ridiculous. But here's the thing: Trump's former wife Ivana said Trump raped her in a sworn deposition.

Given how central a role rape accusations have played in Trump's campaign - against Mexicans, political opponents, etc. it is clearly a highly germane question, as frankly it would be for any presidential candidate.

The details surrounding the alleged rape are bizarrely novelistic even by Trumpian standards.

According to Ivana, Trump was driven to freakish rage by a failed anti-baldness surgery - a so-called 'scalp reduction'.

But the actions are very clear cut (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/wait-what--6).

According to her deposition, Trump flew into a rage, attacked her, held her down and began pulling hair out of her head to mimic his pain and then forcibly penetrated her.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/time-to-press-donald-on-raping-his-wife?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

But but but "women love me and I love women" Trump! :lol

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 03:45 PM
DONALD TRUMP: I'm going to open up our libel laws, so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We're going to open up those libel laws, so that when The New York Times writes a hit piece, which is a total disgrace, or when The Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money.

AMY GOODMAN: After The New York Times piece about his attitude toward women, now he has escalated, and on Fox last night, in talking to Sean Hannity, he is talking about President Clinton's past behavior and now using the word "rape" when it comes to allegations of President Clinton and what he did.

He knows what they want. He knows how to feed the beast. And so, stories that they wouldn't touch with a 100-foot pole, Donald Trump makes front and center, and he's going to keep them there as long as he wants. And again, what -- the solution to this, if you have journalists, is to investigate them, investigate the charges, and report on them, and also to do the same to Donald Trump's side, so it's an equal playing field

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/36110-donald-trump-vows-to-sue-new-york-times-in-latest-show-of-disregard-for-freedom-of-press

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 03:59 PM
Trump Card: The Bully Who Exposes Our Bully Nation

Donald Trump's flagrant bullying -- much denounced even by the Republican Party establishment, with both President Bushes refusing to endorse him (https://www.texastribune.org/2016/05/04/bush-41-43-have-no-plans-endorse-trump/) -- is no sign that he will lose the presidential nomination or election.

The dirty secret is that GOP leaders secretly admire and envy his power as a bully. Worse, Trump's bullying resonates not only with his hardcore supporters, but also to many in the elite classes and much of the population.

There has been endless elite and media bemoaning (https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/03/trump-is-a-bully) of Trump as a bully (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/11/trumps-a-bully-and-narcissist-dick-kovacevich.html). Much of this misses the key point and is hypocritical, for Trump's bullying is largely a reflection of the establishment's own bullying and the centrality of bullying in our culture and society.

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/36057-trump-card-the-bully-who-exposes-our-bully-nation

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 04:21 PM
Trump Invested In Companies He Bashes On Campaign Trail

Donald Trump has invested in some of the companies that he uses as punching bags on the campaign trail, according to new financial documents he submitted to the U.S. government.

In his 104-page public financial disclosure report, the presumptive Republican nominee reported holding investments in companies like Ford Motor Co., Apple Inc. and the parent company of the maker of Oreo cookies — all businesses that he's assailed for outsourcing or, in Apple's case, not agreeing to crack into iPhones for police or federal law enforcement in criminal cases. Trump also has invested in other companies that have outsourced jobs but escaped his public shaming.

One of Trump's main talking points during his campaign rallies is that as president he would stop the outflow of American jobs. He often calls out companies and their products by name. The investments make up only a tiny fraction of Trump's reported net worth, and a comparison with his previous filings show he's reduced his holdings in some of the companies he targets.

Trump's campaign did not respond to emailed questions about his investments in companies that have recently outsourced jobs. The campaign also did not return a phone message from The Associated Press on Wednesday.

"I love Oreos. I will never eat them again," Trump said in August after Nabisco announced it was laying off 600 bakery workers in Chicago and building a new facility in Mexico. Trump reported between $5,000 and $15,000 in interest income from a now-sold investment in Nabisco's parent company.

"Who do they think they are?" Trump said of Apple in February, when the company balked at hacking an iPhone used by one of the two people in a mass shooting in San Bernardino, California. More recently, Trump pledged to make Apple "build their damn computers and things in this country." Trump holds multiple investments in Apple, which combined are worth between $1.1 million and $2.25 million.

"We're going to tax you when those air conditioners come," Trump said in February of air conditioner manufacturer Carrier Corp., whose parent company United Technologies Corp. relocated 1,400 jobs to Monterrey, Mexico. Trump no longer owns stock in the company, but he earned between $2,500 and $5,000 in interest income from a sold investment.

In March, Trump blasted Disney for its "outrageous practices" in requiring 250 Florida workers to train their foreign replacements before being laid off. Trump owns between $15,000 and $50,000 in Disney stock.

In April, Trump called Ford's plans to open a $1.6 billion assembly plant in Mexico "an absolute disgrace," and threatened to impose a 35 percent tax on imported Ford vehicles. In his personal financial disclosures, Trump reports investments in Ford Motor Credit Co. worth between $500,000 and $1 million.

Trump so far hasn't attacked all the companies he listed on his financial records that have outsourced jobs. Trump listed investments in V F Corp. and Thermo Fisher Scientific, both of which moved jobs out of the U.S. in high-profile outsourcing deals last year.

But Trump has put the others on notice.

"Carrier and Ford and Nabisco need to know that there are consequences to leaving and firing people," Trump said at a rally in Evansville, Indiana, last month. "You can't just go to another country and make products to sell across our weak borders."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-invest-companies-bashed-apple-ford?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

CosmicCowboy
05-19-2016, 04:27 PM
Trump Invested In Companies He Bashes On Campaign Trail

Donald Trump has invested in some of the companies that he uses as punching bags on the campaign trail, according to new financial documents he submitted to the U.S. government.

In his 104-page public financial disclosure report, the presumptive Republican nominee reported holding investments in companies like Ford Motor Co., Apple Inc. and the parent company of the maker of Oreo cookies — all businesses that he's assailed for outsourcing or, in Apple's case, not agreeing to crack into iPhones for police or federal law enforcement in criminal cases. Trump also has invested in other companies that have outsourced jobs but escaped his public shaming.

One of Trump's main talking points during his campaign rallies is that as president he would stop the outflow of American jobs. He often calls out companies and their products by name. The investments make up only a tiny fraction of Trump's reported net worth, and a comparison with his previous filings show he's reduced his holdings in some of the companies he targets.

Trump's campaign did not respond to emailed questions about his investments in companies that have recently outsourced jobs. The campaign also did not return a phone message from The Associated Press on Wednesday.

"I love Oreos. I will never eat them again," Trump said in August after Nabisco announced it was laying off 600 bakery workers in Chicago and building a new facility in Mexico. Trump reported between $5,000 and $15,000 in interest income from a now-sold investment in Nabisco's parent company.

"Who do they think they are?" Trump said of Apple in February, when the company balked at hacking an iPhone used by one of the two people in a mass shooting in San Bernardino, California. More recently, Trump pledged to make Apple "build their damn computers and things in this country." Trump holds multiple investments in Apple, which combined are worth between $1.1 million and $2.25 million.

"We're going to tax you when those air conditioners come," Trump said in February of air conditioner manufacturer Carrier Corp., whose parent company United Technologies Corp. relocated 1,400 jobs to Monterrey, Mexico. Trump no longer owns stock in the company, but he earned between $2,500 and $5,000 in interest income from a sold investment.

In March, Trump blasted Disney for its "outrageous practices" in requiring 250 Florida workers to train their foreign replacements before being laid off. Trump owns between $15,000 and $50,000 in Disney stock.

In April, Trump called Ford's plans to open a $1.6 billion assembly plant in Mexico "an absolute disgrace," and threatened to impose a 35 percent tax on imported Ford vehicles. In his personal financial disclosures, Trump reports investments in Ford Motor Credit Co. worth between $500,000 and $1 million.

Trump so far hasn't attacked all the companies he listed on his financial records that have outsourced jobs. Trump listed investments in V F Corp. and Thermo Fisher Scientific, both of which moved jobs out of the U.S. in high-profile outsourcing deals last year.

But Trump has put the others on notice.

"Carrier and Ford and Nabisco need to know that there are consequences to leaving and firing people," Trump said at a rally in Evansville, Indiana, last month. "You can't just go to another country and make products to sell across our weak borders."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-invest-companies-bashed-apple-ford?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29




Seriously Boo? Did you notice they were all INTEREST INCOME? As in bond income?

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 04:41 PM
Unconventional no more: Donald Trump becomes what he opposed

In early August, Donald Trump appeared on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” and summarized (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-transcript-august-2-2015-n402571) his unique qualities as a presidential candidate. Nine months later, the quote has taken on even greater salience.

“I don’t have pollsters, I don’t want to waste money on pollsters,” the Republican candidate told Chuck Todd. “I don’t want to be unreal. I want to be me. I have to be me. You know, we have enough of that in Washington with pollsters telling everybody what to say and everybody being controlled by the special interests, and the lobbyists, et cetera, and the donors.”

Every single one of these boasts is no longer applicable. Lobbyists (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/paul_manafort_isn_t_a_gop_retread_he_s_made_a_care er_of_reinventing_tyrants.html) now run Team Trump; Republicanmega-donors (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/adelson-ready-invest-trump-whos-the-puppet-now) now finance Team Trump; and as of this week, the candidate who had no use for pollsters has, in fact, hired a pollster (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-hires-pollster-after-previously-attacking-them).

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump will hire pollster Tony Fabrizio, a strategic shift as he reconfigures his campaign with an eye toward the general election.

A source close to the Trump campaign confirmed to NBC News the hire, which was first reported by Politico. Fabrizio is a veteran Republican pollster who most recently worked on Sen. Rand Paul’s presidential campaign and Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s campaign. He also conducted polling for then-Texas Gov. Rick Perry during the 2012 presidential race.



But it’s against this backdrop that Trump has, in many ways, done the one thing he vowed not to do: become conventional. Every modern Republican nominee has relied on lobbyists, mega-donors, and pollsters, and as of this week, Trump is now just an inexperienced, unqualified version of his GOP predecessors.

He’s even started (http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/04/trumps-foreign-policy-doesnt-improve-when-read-teleprompter) using (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/273830-trump-uses-teleprompter-in-foreign-policy-speech) teleprompters, even after having said (https://twitter.com/American_Bridge/status/725357098738044928), “When you’re really, really, really smart like me … I don’t need teleprompters.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/unconventional-no-more-donald-trump-becomes-what-he-opposed?cid=sm_fb_maddow


Trump and his totally conned suckers! :lol

florige
05-19-2016, 05:07 PM
Hillary will beat him too after the convention.



If Bernie supporters are really not going to vote for Hillary during the Generals then she may be in a world of trouble. Of the one or so Bernie supporters I have come across, for every one who says they would support Hillary, ten more say they would either write Bernie in, or just stay home. Hillary is very much disliked. Maybe not quite up there with Trump, but she isn't lagging too far behind.

ducks
05-19-2016, 06:26 PM
NYT Poll: Overwhelming Majority of GOP Voters Want Party Behind Trump

DMX7
05-19-2016, 08:37 PM
His only shot is somehow taking the lion's share of California, tbh. Then it'll be close enough that the super dels will have to almost unanimously go with one candidate - that's Bern's only shot really.

I'm talking about Trump. The primaries are effectively over. Bernie isn't winning, and I love the guy, but it's not going to happen.

Mitch
05-19-2016, 09:29 PM
I'm talking about Trump. The primaries are effectively over. Bernie isn't winning, and I love the guy, but it's not going to happen.

Yep, it was over in NY for him.

Reck
05-19-2016, 09:58 PM
Look at the polls; he's already making up ground on Hillary. In fact, some national polls have him ahead of Hillary.

Meh, Between Fox and Rasmussen, you couldn't tell which is more biased.

Rasmussen for example has Hillary being at a mere 37%..how? She had been leading by a wide 49 points. You cant lose that much ground that fast. There is something they're not showing us. Like how even was this poll? 500 Republicans and 500 democrats. Also a whopping 31% is undecided which means that poll is useless as fuck.

A more balanced poll came out today by CBS that has her up 6 which is consistent with the quinnipiac which I think its the only legit poll out of them all imo.

Granted she is still losing some ground to Trump but not as significant as 12 points in the national polling.

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 11:18 PM
And the KKK goes wild!

Donald Trump Wanted A White-Versus-Black Season Of “The Apprentice”

“Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world,” Trump said in 2005.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/donald-trump-wanted-a-white-versus-black-season-of-the-appre?bffbnews&utm_term=.hlyE9aZ485#.juVPjJZGK3

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 11:59 PM
Trump’s Financial Disclosure Shows How He Avoids Taxes

Unlikely Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump recently filed paperwork that claims his net worth increased by $1.2 billion in just a month. Trump publicized his personal financial disclosure (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/donald-trumps-personal-wealth), a vague outline of assets, income, and business positions that all candidates submit to the Federal Elections Commission,

Trump’s mandatory disclosure indicates that Trump’s own claims about his assets change when it’s convenient for him; specifically, when he stands to pay less in taxes.

Take Trump National Golf Club in Westchester County, New York. Trump wrote in his financial disclosure that the club was worth more than $50 million, even though Trump’s own attorneys say it’s worth only $9 million. Trump has earned the ire of county administrators who accuse him of trying to pay less in taxes on the property than he should.

His attorneys had previously valued the golf course at an absurdly low $1.35 million, before ABC News’ reporting on the course, according to a subsequent update (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-team-revises-golf-amid-tax-controversy/story?id=39155939). Trump spent $8 million to buy the property and a further $45 million to build the golf course and facilities on the property grounds, and then received a 55 percent reduction in the club’s official value, minimizing his tax burden even more.

He has tried to divert attention to the disclosure’s wild claim that he’s worth $10 billion, even though Forbes, publisher of the venerable World’s Billionaires list, has calculated his worth to be around $4 billion (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarlyle/2015/07/15/donald-trump-says-he-is-worth-10-billion-files-personal-financial-disclosure/#67b828856e0e), and many others have estimated Trump is worth much less.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/trumps-financial-disclosure-shows-how-he-avoids-taxes/

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 11:59 PM
Trump Plans On Breaking The Law With Huge Illegal Act At The Republican Convention

Donald Trump is considering naming his cabinet at the Republican convention. The problem is that it is illegal for Trump to name cabinet members for an election that he hasn't won yet.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/18/trump-plans-breaking-law-huge-illegal-act-republican-convention.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux
05-20-2016, 12:03 AM
Samantha Bee Explains the Ugly History that Led the Religious Right to Trump's Door

On Monday night's episode of Full Frontal With Samantha Bee, the host joked, "Most evangelicals said, 'Nah, we're going to go with the thrice-married, foul-mouthed tit judge who likesPlanned Parenthood and thinks Corinthians is a type of car upholstery.'"

Bee then unpacked the surprisingly brief but society- and politics-changing relationship between the Republican Party and the evangelical community, from its very beginnings to the elections today. It started in the early 1970s when Paul Weyrich, a co-founder of the Heritage Foundation (http://www.heritage.org/about) whom Bee describes as a "Dwight Schrute (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0HT9QpH_sQ) understudy," realized he could tap America's churches for "potential Republicans" and found the perfect vehicle in a prominent court case.

"It wasn't abortion that birthed the religious right," she said. "It was good old white nativism and anti-government anger when the IRS challenged evangelicals' God-given right to go to school without black people. (https://www.oyez.org/cases/1982/81-3)"
Since then, the Republican platform has vehemently opposed abortion, sex education, and gay marriage, and the party has focused on religious freedom and "family values."

Bee offers a bit of optimism: The religious right has seen many of its most cherished causes defeated in the last 15 years. Gay people can marry and serve in the military, and there has been overwhelming opposition in the business community and elsewhere to North Carolina's sweeping anti-transgender law.

"When North Carolina Republicans tried to get people to the polls with a bathroom culture war, the country held their heads in the toilet while the attorney general gave them a swirley," Bee said, referring to Loretta Lynch's condemnation of the new law.

Nonetheless, they still remain a powerful force, so much so that Donald Trump has courted them aggressively. With their strong support for Trump's presidential bid,Bee suggested, evangelicals may just be happy to "ditch the Bible" in exchange for "good old-fashioned white nativism and anti-government anger."

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2016/05/samantha-bee-explains-how-right-became-so-obsessively-religious

boutons_deux
05-20-2016, 12:14 AM
Cenk Uygur slams Trump: If you thought Bill Clinton was a rapist, why was he at your wedding?
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/cenk-uygur-slams-trump-if-you-thought-bill-clinton-was-a-rapist-why-was-he-at-your-wedding/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

CosmicCowboy
05-20-2016, 06:26 AM
Trump Plans On Breaking The Law With Huge Illegal Act At The Republican Convention

Donald Trump is considering naming his cabinet at the Republican convention. The problem is that it is illegal for Trump to name cabinet members for an election that he hasn't won yet.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/18/trump-plans-breaking-law-huge-illegal-act-republican-convention.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29




Please quote the legal statute that says a candidate cannot reveal their choices for cabinet positions if they are elected.

boutons_deux
05-20-2016, 06:29 AM
Please quote the legal statute that says a candidate cannot reveal their choices for cabinet positions if they are elected.

“Pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 599, “[w]hoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

CosmicCowboy
05-20-2016, 07:09 AM
“Pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 599, “[w]hoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”



Got fucking damn Bookaki. Can't you read? That's not what it says at all.

DMX7
05-20-2016, 08:42 AM
Where did CC's foul mouth come from all of the sudden???

CosmicCowboy
05-20-2016, 09:06 AM
Where did CC's foul mouth come from all of the sudden???

From all the ankle biting attack dogs.

DMX7
05-20-2016, 09:43 AM
From all the ankle biting attack dogs.

Ok, well let me give you some advice. Profanity is often used for effect, but when you use it in almost every sentence it loses it's effect.

rmt
05-21-2016, 12:09 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trumps-campaign-dwarfed-by-clintons-223438

Total spent on campaign (not counting SuperPacs)
Trump $57m
Clinton $182m
Bernie $207m

Staff
Trump 70
Clinton 732
Bernie - slightly smaller than Hillary

Rent
Trump 101k
Clinton 328k

Advertising
Trump $2.7m
Clinton $12m digital and broadcast media
Bernie - article says twice as much as Hillary on media and payroll

Direct Mail
Trump $931k
Clinton $398k

Merchandise
Trump $856k
Clinton $88k

Clinton also has a massive head start over Trump when it come to analytics, polling and building models of likely voters and turnout plans. Probably ground game too since Trump does so poorly in this area.

boutons_deux
05-21-2016, 12:13 PM
Trump’s Campaign: Just Kidding About the $6 Million For Veterans

Back in January, Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump boycotted a debate moderated bysometimes (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/03/3756440/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-reunion/)–rival (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/05/17/3779303/trump-starts-megyn-kelly-interview-blatant-lie/) Megyn Kelly of Fox News, opting to host a stunt (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/28/3743681/gop-veterans-props/) fundraising event (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/27/3743369/trump-veterans-iava/) for veterans’ charities (https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/MILITARY_CHARITIES_SHEET_FOR_MR._TRUMP.pdf) instead. He boasted (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-are-the-veterans-groups-donald-trump-will-donate-to/) at the time that the event raised $5 million and that he had personally donated $1 million from his self-proclaimed $8.7 billion (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ukmxoytvaasocgg/AAAumCOLwNmSD1EETyT86c5Ia/Mr.%20Trump's%20Summary%20of%20Net%20Worth.pdf?dl= 0) fortune — for a $6 million total haul.

Days after the event, Trump lauded himself (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-are-the-veterans-groups-donald-trump-will-donate-to/) for an event that could “not have been better.” “I did something great for veterans,” he claimed, adding, “You know, as they say when something works out, it was a ten. And I didn’t know it was going to be a ten.”

But last month, the Wall Street Journal reported (http://www.wsj.com/articles/veterans-charities-await-funds-raised-by-donald-trump-1460069309) that the promised beneficiaries had apparently received just a “fraction of the promised money.” Trump deflected these criticisms, telling CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-claims-6-million-raised-for-veterans-has-been-mostly-distributed/) “I don’t have the final numbers, but the money we raised for veterans has been mostly distributed. We’re looking for some other really worthy places to distribute the final [funds] … But for the most part, it has been distributed. We raised millions of dollars.”

On Friday, Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/04/17/3770215/lewandowski-refuses-apology/) revealed that the fundraiser actually netted less than initial claims.

Lewandowski told CNN that he did not “know the exact number,” but explained that the $6 million figure reflected only pledged donations — not the amount actually collected. The Washington Post quoted Lewandowski as putting the total raised at just $4.5 million (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-said-he-raised-6-million-for-vets-now-his-campaign-says-it-was-less/2016/05/20/871127a8-1d1f-11e6-b6e0-c53b7ef63b45_story.html), but he later told CNN that that number was incorrect (http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/20/politics/trump-veterans-6-million-not-raised/index.html).

As Trump has already contributed $43 million (http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-05-20/trumps-campaign-investment-tops-43-million) to his campaign, it is noteworthy that he did not opt to make up the difference, given his stated concern (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/28/politics/donald-trump-2016-election-rally-gop-debate/) that “illegal immigrants are treated better in many cases than our vets.”

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/05/21/3780634/trump-campaign-gives-less-to-veterans/

:lol Trump is actually, verifiably THE PERFECT REPUG: he opens his mouth, he BULLSHITS, SLANDERS, LIES.

DMX7
05-21-2016, 12:38 PM
As much as I love Mr. Trump, he has been caught it clear lies many times. That does worry me that he won't be very transparent in the White House, but then again, neither would Hillary. Just look at Benghazi.

boutons_deux
05-21-2016, 12:47 PM
Just look at Benghazi.


7 or 8 Repug committees found nothing!

Benghazi! :lol

DMX7
05-21-2016, 04:41 PM
7 or 8 Repug committees found nothing!

Benghazi! :lol

She told the public one thing happened and told her daughter something totally different.

Dirk Oneanddoneski
05-22-2016, 10:33 AM
http://i.imgur.com/gBJeTxH.jpg

boutons_deux
05-22-2016, 11:55 AM
She told the public one thing happened and told her daughter something totally different.

and where's the crime? where's the conspiracy to tell help to "stand down"?

a Trump-fellator like you GAFD about "truth"? :lol

DMX7
05-22-2016, 02:14 PM
and where's the crime? where's the conspiracy to tell help to "stand down"?

a Trump-fellator like you GAFD about "truth"? :lol

My original point is that they both have been caught lying. Nothing you said discredits that.

Mitch
05-22-2016, 04:50 PM
Go to 9:05 :lmao Reck


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4VLna7Lo2o

Reck
05-22-2016, 10:27 PM
Go to 9:05 :lmao Reck (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4VLna7Lo2o

LOL old jew got Trumped. :lol

Reck
05-23-2016, 01:09 AM
http://i.imgur.com/gBJeTxH.jpg

Meh, another poll came out today that has her up 3.

These batches of polls are skewed as fuck. I dont think you can really gauge what's really going on while Clinton has to deal with two people at once. And it is early.

Other polls are out that has her beating Trump in 2 swing states.

http://i68.tinypic.com/260siue.jpg

All useless polls though. Gotta get within a month or two of the elections to know.

boutons_deux
05-23-2016, 04:37 AM
Donald Trump: ‘I’m not advocating guns in classrooms’ but ‘teachers should have guns in classrooms’

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/donald-trump-im-not-advocating-guns-in-classrooms-but-teachers-should-have-guns-in-classrooms/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

and the Gun Fellators of America go wild!

Trump is seriously fucked up, and so are his supporters.

He's just like TV.

TV produces pure shit, pure garbage, and people watch it, mindlessly.

America shits Trump and 10Ms of people eat it up.

boutons_deux
05-23-2016, 04:45 AM
Donald Trump backtracking continues: Campaign now seeking Muslim voters

If you’re keeping a tally, this is, at least, the fifth time presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has backtracked on promises he made during the primary election and caucuses.

Thus far,

Trump is changing course on not raising taxes on his rich friends (https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-quickly-backtracks-on-remarks-about-raising-taxes-on-wealthy-americans/),

he has backtracked on punishing women for having an abortion (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/trump-backpedals-on-punishing-women-for-abortion-after-conservative-backlash/),

reversed on the anti-trans bathroom bill in North Carolina (http://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/04/22/trump-backtracks-on-north-carolina-anti-lgbt-law/) and even

his legislative surrogate admitted that Trump will never actually build that wall (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-surrogate-admits-theres-not-going-to-be-a-wall-but-racists-can-still-imagine-its-there/) on the U.S./Mexico border his supporters chant about at rallies.

Now,

Trump campaign is seeking votes from the very Muslims Trump has promised to ban

from the United States.

In a phone interview with The Hill (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/280762-trump-campaign-quietly-courts-muslims), a top national security adviser for Trump, Walid Phares, admitted that the campaign is in talks with Muslim leaders because they are a small but important voting bloc.

He explained that these talks are merely a natural extension of the campaign’s policy work for Middle Eastern affairs.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/donald-trump-backtracking-continues-campaign-now-seeking-muslim-voters/

"Words don't matter, policies don't matter. We'll dream up policies after we're elected"

... and they will be exactly what the establishment Repugs want. Trump will sign every piece of garbage a Repug Congress passes to him

You Repug supporters are being hilariously CONNED by a Tee Vee pitchman selling snake oil. :lol

boutons_deux
05-23-2016, 04:58 AM
the dickless Grassley bends over and lets Trump rape him

GOP senator sparks conversation about Trump’s tall tales

Donald Trump this week unveiled a list of 11 potential Supreme Court nominees, which impressed Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). Referring to his conservative colleagues on Capitol Hill, many of whom aren’t sold on the presumptive Republican nominee, Grassley told (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-05-19/grassley-says-trump-s-supreme-court-list-is-pretty-encouraging)Bloomberg Politics, “If anybody had any doubts – and I think a lot of people do have doubts – this will help settle that.”

But for some on the right, the fear is that the list is a sham, which Trump will abandon if elected.

Grassley added (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-05-19/grassley-says-trump-s-supreme-court-list-is-pretty-encouraging) that these concerns are unfounded.


Asked about concerns Trump wouldn’t honor list, Grassley says he has “heard a lot of misstatements and corrections by Trump” but has “never heard him accused of being a liar.”


Really? Never?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-senator-sparks-conversation-about-trumps-tall-tales?cid=sm_fb_maddow

boutons_deux
05-23-2016, 05:31 AM
More than 100 lawsuits, disputes, tied to Trump and his companies

While Donald J. Trump refuses to release his federal tax returns, saying his tax rate is “none of your business,” a USA TODAY analysis found Trump’s businesses have been involved in at least 100 lawsuits and other disputes related to unpaid taxes or how much tax his businesses owe.

Trump’s companies have been engaged in battles over taxes almost every year from the late 1980s until as recently as March, the analysis of court cases, property records, and other documents across the country shows. At least five Trump companies were issued warrants totaling more than $13,000 for late or unpaid taxes in New York state just since Trump declared his candidacy in June 2015, according to state records.

This spring, as Trump flew to campaign rallies around the country aboard his trademark private jet, the state of New York filed a tax warrant to try to collect $8,578 in unpaid taxes (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2839403/DJT-Operations-I-LLC-Warrant.pdf) from the Trump-owned company that owns the Boeing 757. The company has since paid that tax bill.

As recently as last week, Trump said he was “willing to pay more” taxes personally and that “taxes for the rich will go up somewhat” if he becomes president. But the lawsuits and other tax-related disputes show a different reality for his businesses.

They illustrate

a pattern of systematically disputing tax bills,

arguing for lower property assessments, and in some cases

not paying taxes until the government takes additional action.

At least three dozen times, Trump companies’ unpaid tax bills have forced the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance to go to local courts to get liens against his properties to try to collect overdue bills.

New Jersey also had to go to court for a lien to collect a Trump company’s unpaid tax bill. Eventually, those disputes were resolved, and his companies paid some amount of taxes.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/05/19/trumps-tax-troubles/84543538/

Of course, Repugs think the IRS must be abolished, and avoiding/evading taxes to the max is super-patriotic, esp for well-connected, wealthy draft dodgers.

CosmicCowboy
05-23-2016, 06:33 AM
More than 100 lawsuits, disputes, tied to Trump and his companies

While Donald J. Trump refuses to release his federal tax returns, saying his tax rate is “none of your business,” a USA TODAY analysis found Trump’s businesses have been involved in at least 100 lawsuits and other disputes related to unpaid taxes or how much tax his businesses owe.

Trump’s companies have been engaged in battles over taxes almost every year from the late 1980s until as recently as March, the analysis of court cases, property records, and other documents across the country shows. At least five Trump companies were issued warrants totaling more than $13,000 for late or unpaid taxes in New York state just since Trump declared his candidacy in June 2015, according to state records.

This spring, as Trump flew to campaign rallies around the country aboard his trademark private jet, the state of New York filed a tax warrant to try to collect $8,578 in unpaid taxes (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2839403/DJT-Operations-I-LLC-Warrant.pdf) from the Trump-owned company that owns the Boeing 757. The company has since paid that tax bill.

As recently as last week, Trump said he was “willing to pay more” taxes personally and that “taxes for the rich will go up somewhat” if he becomes president. But the lawsuits and other tax-related disputes show a different reality for his businesses.

They illustrate

a pattern of systematically disputing tax bills,

arguing for lower property assessments, and in some cases

not paying taxes until the government takes additional action.

At least three dozen times, Trump companies’ unpaid tax bills have forced the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance to go to local courts to get liens against his properties to try to collect overdue bills.

New Jersey also had to go to court for a lien to collect a Trump company’s unpaid tax bill. Eventually, those disputes were resolved, and his companies paid some amount of taxes.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/05/19/trumps-tax-troubles/84543538/

Of course, Repugs think the IRS must be abolished, and avoiding/evading taxes to the max is super-patriotic, esp for well-connected, wealthy draft dodgers.



The takeaway line from the whole article:

Eventually, those disputes were resolved, and his companies paid some amount of taxes

The local/state taxing authorities just throw out large numbers hoping some stupid people will just pay them . Smart people protest them and don't pay until it's settled. It's call business and both sides play the game. Bexar County just raised the appraisal on my commercial property almost 65% in one year. I'b be an idiot to just pay it. I will protest the increase and not pay the taxes until we agree on an appropriate number. They get an increase and I don't have to pay the full 65% number they opened with. The process is not illegal or unethical.

boutons_deux
05-23-2016, 07:01 AM
Eventually, those disputes were resolved, and his companies paid some amount of taxes


Wasting govt's time and taxpayers' $MS on silly, and eventually pointless, ineffective tax disputes is UNETHICAL.

Simply makework for lawyers, like army grunts picking up cigarette butts from the parade ground.

CosmicCowboy
05-23-2016, 07:17 AM
Wasting govt's time and taxpayers' $MS on silly, and eventually pointless, ineffective tax disputes is UNETHICAL.

Simply makework for lawyers, like army grunts picking up cigarette butts from the parade ground.

:lmao

Protesting ridiculous tax assessments is unethical?

boutons_deux
05-23-2016, 07:20 AM
:lmao

Protesting ridiculous tax assessments is unethical?

if they were so ridiculous, why did Trump finally pay them?

CosmicCowboy
05-23-2016, 07:27 AM
if they were so ridiculous, why did Trump finally pay them?

I just explained it two posts ago. Don't you read?

boutons_deux
05-23-2016, 04:43 PM
Here's Tramp pandering to the Christian Taliban Hispanics

Trump 'Christian Policy' Adviser Is A 'Prophet' Who Stopped A Tsunami, Says AIDS Is Result Of 'Unnatural Sex'

Mario Bramnick, an official with the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, told Time magazine last week (http://time.com/4342885/donald-trump-immigration-hispanic-evangelicals/) that Donald Trump has taken on Frank Amedia of Touch Heaven Ministries (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trumps-christian-liaison-threatened-withhold-food-haitians-who-dont-give-voodoo)in Ohio as his new “liaison for Christian policy” and that Amedia has been arranging meetings for the Republican presidential candidate with conservative religious leaders.

Amedia, who was once implicated in a bribery scandal in which he attempted to help a car-dealer friend avoid prosecution, is now a self-proclaimed “apostle” who says that he once single-handedly stopped a tsunami from hitting an island in Hawaii.

Amedia got his religious training from Miami pastor Guillermo Maldonado, who is associated (https://www3.nd.edu/~newsinfo/pdf/2006_08_07_pdf/Evangelical%20Empire%20on%20the%20Rise.pdf) with the controversial New Apostolic Reformation (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/nar-critic-slams-james-dobson-and-pro-family-leaders-giving-credibility-false-teachers), a group of self-proclaimed modern-day apostles and prophets. In a 2012 appearance on Maldonado’s TBN program, Amedia referred to Maldonado (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5CCdUsgPBI) as his “spiritual father.”

Amedia, who says he is a former Jew (http://www.daystar.com/shows/deep-calls-to-deep-with-frank-amedia/), now identifies as an “apostle” himself. Until recently, his biography (http://web.archive.org/web/20160324142416/http:/touchheaven.com/About/OurSeniorPastors.aspx) on his church’s website read:

Frank Amedia is called as an Apostle, Prophet, Pastor, Evangelist, Teacher, and Minister in sound biblical doctrine with gifts of knowledge, healing, and discernment …

For over two decades, his clarity of vision, prophetic insight, and revelations of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God in the scriptures have been an enormous blessing to a worldwide audience. Enabled by this extensive experience, Pastor Frank has a unique perspective on the parallel journey of the Church and Israel as he is called as one to prepare the way for the coming of the Lord.

Thousands of wondrous records of miraculous testimonies of healings, deliverances, re-creative miracles, and physical gifts follow him wherever he goes, even as he gives all of the Glory to God his Father, Jesus his Messiah, and the Holy Spirit.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trump-christian-policy-adviser-apostle-who-stopped-tsunami-says-aids-result-unnatural-sex

boutons_deux
05-23-2016, 04:45 PM
John Hagee: God Will Hold You Accountable For Not Voting For Donald Trump

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/john-hagee-god-will-hold-you-accountable-not-voting-donald-trump

Hate and fear, yawn, Christian Taliban and Repugs conning the rednecks, racists, Christian idiots.

CosmicCowboy
05-23-2016, 05:09 PM
John Hagee sucks.

boutons_deux
05-23-2016, 05:15 PM
John Hagee sucks.

He obviously has violated the tax exemption rule for churches by publicly entering into partisan politics.

IRS should fry his obese ass and his fake "church" for $10Ms in taxes. Bexar County, too.

ducks
05-23-2016, 06:34 PM
John Hagee sucks.I doubt he is gay

ducks
05-23-2016, 06:35 PM
He obviously has violated the tax exemption rule for churches by publicly entering into partisan politics.

IRS should fry his obese ass and his fake "church" for $10Ms in taxes. Bexar County, too.

rules and records are made to be broken as clinton

boutons_deux
05-24-2016, 06:47 AM
Remember when Donald Trump tried to “out” Jon Stewart’s Jewish heritage in 2013?

Donald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔‎@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

I promise you that I'm much smarter than Jonathan Leibowitz - I mean Jon Stewart @TheDailyShow (https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow). Who, by the way, is totally overrated.
10:09 AM - 24 Apr 2013 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/327076720425451523)

It was payback. Stewart had called Trump a "boiled ham with a wig" on The Daily Show,and in retaliation Trump seemingly tried to either shame Stewart for hiding his Jewish heritage or for being Jewish altogether — the motives are unclear. It's important to note that in addition to the general prevalence of stage names, Stewart has also never hidden his Jewish heritage.

When Trump "outed" him, Stewart had the perfect comeback — equally as childish, and with a Daily Show–esque bite to it — exposing Trump's real name: Fuckface Von Clownstick.

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/23/11746028/jon-stewart-leibowitz-comeback-donald-trump-man-baby

boutons_deux
05-24-2016, 07:24 AM
The Washington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-escalates-attack-on-bill-clinton/2016/05/23/ed109acc-2100-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html)overnight:


When asked in an interview last week about the Foster case, [Donald Trump] dealt with it as he has with many edgy topics – raising doubts about the official version of events even as he says he does not plan to talk about it on the campaign trail.

He called theories of possible foul play “very serious” and the circumstances of Foster’s death “very fishy.”

“He had intimate knowledge of what was going on,” Trump said, speaking of Foster’s relationship with the Clintons at the time. “He knew everything that was going on, and then all of a sudden he committed suicide.”


http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-talks-vince-foster-90s-show-returns?cid=sm_fb_maddow

DMX7
05-24-2016, 09:50 AM
Trump would make an outstanding opposition research political consultant. He's incredibly dedicated and talented in that area.

boutons_deux
05-24-2016, 10:28 AM
Trump would make an outstanding opposition research political consultant. He's incredibly dedicated and talented in that area.

:lol GREAT qualifications to be President.

rmt
05-24-2016, 10:33 AM
Well, he certainly knows just the right name to brand people with. Heard somewhere that 4 days after Romney lost, Trump took a patent out on "Make America Great Again." What do you all think about Hillary's slogan, "Stronger together"?

Pelicans78
05-24-2016, 10:54 AM
Trump isn't the ideal candidate by any means, but he can't be worse than Hillary.

boutons_deux
05-24-2016, 11:04 AM
Trump isn't the ideal candidate by any means, but he can't be worse than Hillary.

He would be definitely worse than Hillary.

Pelicans78
05-24-2016, 11:06 AM
He would be definitely worse than Hillary.

Her record in public office speaks for itself. Expect 100,000 troops in the Middle East once she takes over.

boutons_deux
05-24-2016, 11:21 AM
Her record in public office speaks for itself. Expect 100,000 troops in the Middle East once she takes over.

yep, no doubt at all. That's why I can't support her at all, but she'd be better than Tramp, aka, a very low bar to beat

DMX7
05-24-2016, 01:11 PM
Well, he certainly knows just the right name to brand people with. Heard somewhere that 4 days after Romney lost, Trump took a patent out on "Make America Great Again." What do you all think about Hillary's slogan, "Stronger together"?

It's good. I'm sure it's been focus group tested to death like all her policy positions. Not something Trump can't overcome with some branding of his own.

boutons_deux
05-24-2016, 05:11 PM
Lindsey Graham disappoints with his malleable principles

The number of prominent, die-hard, “Never Trump” voices in Republican politics is pretty small, but one of those voices had been quite loud. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), arguably more than anyone else in his party, had spent the better part of a year telling anyone who’ll listen that Donald Trump must never be the president of the United States.

Which is probably why this CNN report (http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/22/politics/donald-trump-lindsey-graham-republican-party/index.html), published on Sunday, came as something of a shock.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, one of Donald Trump’s fiercest critics, is now calling on Republicans to support their presumptive nominee.

Graham urged GOP donors at a private fundraiser Saturday in Florida to unite behind Trump’s campaign and stressed the importance of keeping likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton from the White House…. “He did say that we need to get behind him,” Teresa Dailey, a prominent Florida Republican fundraiser who attended the private event, told CNN on Sunday.


I held off on writing about this yesterday largely because I wanted to give Graham a day to forcefully deny the accuracy of the report. There doesn’t appear to be a recording of the senator’s remarks at the event, and the CNN coverage was based on second-hand accounts, so there was at least some grounds for skepticism. If Graham and his aides insisted that the senator never said what his audience claimed he said, maybe Graham should get the benefit of the doubt.

But that’s not what happened. Instead, Graham’s spokesperson confirmed that he attended the fundraiser, and remained coy about what, exactly, the senator said about supporting the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.

Pressed for an explanation yesterday, Graham had an opportunity to deny the accuracy of the CNN report, but he didn’t. “You vote the way you want to vote for president,” the senator told reporters (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/280972-graham-im-still-not-supporting-trump). “I’ve decided to take a pass on that race.”

Except, that’s not entirely true. Graham has had plenty to say about the presidential race.


Consider this report (http://www.salon.com/2016/05/23/lindsey_graham_knifes_nevertrump_one_of_donald_tru mps_loudest_detractors_quietly_gives_up/) from Salon’s Simon Maloy:

This is the Lindsey Graham who, when he was still a presidential candidate, called Trump

a “race-baiting, xenophobic bigot (http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/12/08/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-xenophobic-bigot-interview-newday.cnn/video/playlists/lindsey-graham-2016/),”

a “complete idiot (http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/19/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-is-a-complete-idiot/),”

a “jackass (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sen-lindsey-graham-to-donald-trump-stop-being-a-jackass/),” and

a “wrecking ball (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lindsey-graham-trump-wrecking-ball).”

He urged GOP voters to

tell Trump to “go to hell (http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-go-to-hell-ted-cruz/)”

and warned that if Trump did win the nomination,

“that’s the end of the Republican Party (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-end-republican-party).”


After Graham dropped out, he described

the two-man race between Trump and Ted Cruz as a choice between “being shot or poisoned (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/lindsey-graham-trump-cruz-choice-218069).”

Graham eventually did endorse Cruz (http://www.salon.com/2016/03/18/lindsey_graham_buries_the_republican_rebrand_the_g op_officially_gives_up_on_expanding_its_demographi c_appeal/), who, you may have already guessed, Graham dislikes intensely (http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/26/politics/lindsey-graham-ted-cruz-dinner/), because he hated Trump that much more.

My personal favorite came just three weeks ago, when Graham told CBS (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-presidency-will-lead-to-another-911/) that Trump’s approach to foreign policy “will lead to another 9/11.”

If Lindsey Graham, of all people, is telling GOP donors they’re going to have to rally behind the party’s presumptive nominee, then

#NeverTrump is not only dead, it’s become something of a joke – sort of like Graham’s purported principles.

As for why in the world the South Carolina senator would do this to his reputation, I think Slate’s Josh Voorhees gets this right (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/23/lindsey_graham_tells_gop_donors_to_unite_behind_do nald_trump.html):

“Graham’s long-held position, then, seems to be that Trump is a dangerous bigot who is unfit for office,

but also a dangerous bigot who is worth supporting

if it will help his Republican colleagues keep their jobs.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/lindsey-graham-disappoints-his-malleable-principles?cid=sm_fb_maddow

DMX7
05-24-2016, 05:14 PM
Mr. Trump is a charming man. He has won Lindsey Graham over. His power of persuasion will be useful in negotiations with Mexico.

CosmicCowboy
05-24-2016, 05:35 PM
Mr. Trump is a charming man. He has won Lindsey Graham over. His power of persuasion will be useful in negotiations with Mexico.

Yeah. He will be able to convince them to pay for the wall.



















































:lmao

boutons_deux
05-24-2016, 06:08 PM
Is Donald Trump’s Hair a $60,000 Weave? A Gawker Investigation (http://gawker.com/is-donald-trump-s-hair-a-60-000-weave-a-gawker-invest-1777581357)


https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--CMmH_zal--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ztr29gygmy3xgp5hcxh3.png

Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump has generated an unceasing torrent of press attention that some estimate (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-donald-trump-hacked-the-media/) to be worth roughly $2 billion. Yet the central mystery at the very core of his persona—his inscrutable hairdo (http://gawker.com/watch-gawker-exclusive-donald-trump-is-bald-496610302#_ga=1.65852590.1652696571.1429540144)—ha s somehow, impossibly, remained unsolved. Until, perhaps, now.

A tipster who claimed knowledge of Trump’s hair recently came to Gawker with a potential solution to the enigma:

Trump’s hair is not his own, costs tens of thousands of dollars for installation and upkeep, and comes from a man as mysterious as Trump is bombastic.

This solution that Trump, our tipster says, sought for his hair woes is a little-known, patented hair restoration treatment called a “microcylinder intervention.”

It’s only performed by one clinic that we know of — Ivari International (http://ivari.com/) — where our source once sought treatment, and where he says he learned of Trump’s apparent patronage.

What’s more, Ivari’s New York location was inside Trump Tower—on the private floor reserved for Donald Trump’s own office.

http://gawker.com/is-donald-trump-s-hair-a-60-000-weave-a-gawker-invest-1777581357

Reck
05-24-2016, 11:08 PM
LOL Massive protest at one of his rallies tonight. :lol

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/may/24/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll-campaign-live-sanders-election

boutons_deux
05-25-2016, 09:29 AM
Caught fibbing, Trump scrambles to address veterans controversy

In a normal year, in a normal party, with a normal candidate, it would be the kind of controversy that effectively kills a presidential candidate’s chances of success. In January, Donald Trump skipped a Republican debate in order to host a fundraiser for veterans. He boasted at the time (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/donald-trumps-shady-support-veterans) that he’d raised $6 million for vets – which led to a related boast that Trump contributed $1 million out of his own pocket.

The Washington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-said-he-raised-6-million-for-vets-now-his-campaign-says-it-was-less/2016/05/20/871127a8-1d1f-11e6-b6e0-c53b7ef63b45_story.html) this week that Trump’s claims simply weren’t true. He did not, for example, raise $6 million.

And what about the $1 million check the Republican bragged about? His campaign manager insisted this week that Trump did make the contribution.

Except, that wasn’t true, either. The Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/24/four-months-later-donald-trump-says-he-gave-1-million-to-veterans-group/) last night:

Almost four months after promising $1 million of his own money to veterans’ causes, Donald Trump moved to fulfill that pledge Monday evening – promising the entire sum to a single charity as he came under intense media scrutiny.


The check is apparently going to a group called the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation, whose chairman received a call from Trump on Monday night, the day the campaign controversy broke.

Let’s put aside, for now, why the Trump campaign said he’d made a donation that did not exist. Let’s instead ask

why it took nearly four months for the candidate to do what he claimed to have already done.

“You have a lot of vetting to do,” Trump told the Washington Post yesterday.

That might be a decent response were it not for the fact that the New York Republican doesn’t appear at all interested in vetting veterans’ groups – as the story (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/veterans-strong-america-draws-scrutiny) of the sketchy “Veterans for a Strong America” helps prove.

CNN, meanwhile, reported (http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/24/politics/donald-trump-veteran-charity-discrepancy/index.html) last night that when it comes to the candidate’s support for veterans’ groups, there have been “discrepancies between the amount of money Trump touts, and the amount actually donated.”

You can find one example right on Trump’s own website, where Trump boasts of saving an annual veterans parade in 1995 with his participation, and a cash donation, “Mr. Trump agreed to lead as grand marshal,” and “made a $1 million matching donation to finance the Nation’s Day Parade.”

Trump did save the event, according to the parade’s organizer, but he didn’t give $1 million to it.


He actually donated “somewhere between $325,000 and $375,000” – about a third of what he claimed – and

Trump was not the parade’s grand marshal, a honor reserved for actual veterans.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/caught-fibbing-trump-scrambles-address-veterans-controversy?cid=sm_fb_maddow

All y'all's HERO suffers personality disorders and downright pathologies. Making America the laughing stock of the planet.

Ignignokt
05-25-2016, 10:59 AM
Here's Tramp pandering to the Christian Taliban Hispanics

Trump 'Christian Policy' Adviser Is A 'Prophet' Who Stopped A Tsunami, Says AIDS Is Result Of 'Unnatural Sex'

Mario Bramnick, an official with the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, told Time magazine last week (http://time.com/4342885/donald-trump-immigration-hispanic-evangelicals/) that Donald Trump has taken on Frank Amedia of Touch Heaven Ministries (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trumps-christian-liaison-threatened-withhold-food-haitians-who-dont-give-voodoo)in Ohio as his new “liaison for Christian policy” and that Amedia has been arranging meetings for the Republican presidential candidate with conservative religious leaders.

Amedia, who was once implicated in a bribery scandal in which he attempted to help a car-dealer friend avoid prosecution, is now a self-proclaimed “apostle” who says that he once single-handedly stopped a tsunami from hitting an island in Hawaii.

Amedia got his religious training from Miami pastor Guillermo Maldonado, who is associated (https://www3.nd.edu/~newsinfo/pdf/2006_08_07_pdf/Evangelical%20Empire%20on%20the%20Rise.pdf) with the controversial New Apostolic Reformation (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/nar-critic-slams-james-dobson-and-pro-family-leaders-giving-credibility-false-teachers), a group of self-proclaimed modern-day apostles and prophets. In a 2012 appearance on Maldonado’s TBN program, Amedia referred to Maldonado (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5CCdUsgPBI) as his “spiritual father.”

Amedia, who says he is a former Jew (http://www.daystar.com/shows/deep-calls-to-deep-with-frank-amedia/), now identifies as an “apostle” himself. Until recently, his biography (http://web.archive.org/web/20160324142416/http:/touchheaven.com/About/OurSeniorPastors.aspx) on his church’s website read:

Frank Amedia is called as an Apostle, Prophet, Pastor, Evangelist, Teacher, and Minister in sound biblical doctrine with gifts of knowledge, healing, and discernment …

For over two decades, his clarity of vision, prophetic insight, and revelations of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God in the scriptures have been an enormous blessing to a worldwide audience. Enabled by this extensive experience, Pastor Frank has a unique perspective on the parallel journey of the Church and Israel as he is called as one to prepare the way for the coming of the Lord.

Thousands of wondrous records of miraculous testimonies of healings, deliverances, re-creative miracles, and physical gifts follow him wherever he goes, even as he gives all of the Glory to God his Father, Jesus his Messiah, and the Holy Spirit.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trump-christian-policy-adviser-apostle-who-stopped-tsunami-says-aids-result-unnatural-sex





Every GOT DAMN TIME

Ignignokt
05-25-2016, 11:04 AM
Remember when Donald Trump tried to “out” Jon Stewart’s Jewish heritage in 2013?

Donald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔‎@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

I promise you that I'm much smarter than Jonathan Leibowitz - I mean Jon Stewart @TheDailyShow (https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow). Who, by the way, is totally overrated.
10:09 AM - 24 Apr 2013 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/327076720425451523)

It was payback. Stewart had called Trump a "boiled ham with a wig" on The Daily Show,and in retaliation Trump seemingly tried to either shame Stewart for hiding his Jewish heritage or for being Jewish altogether — the motives are unclear. It's important to note that in addition to the general prevalence of stage names, Stewart has also never hidden his Jewish heritage.

When Trump "outed" him, Stewart had the perfect comeback — equally as childish, and with a Daily Show–esque bite to it — exposing Trump's real name: Fuckface Von Clownstick.

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/23/11746028/jon-stewart-leibowitz-comeback-donald-trump-man-baby




You lose when you have to resort to cursing.

boutons_deux
05-25-2016, 11:39 AM
You lose when you have to resort to cursing.

:lol And we hear you rightwingnutjobs whining about political correctness? :lol G F Y

DMX7
05-25-2016, 12:16 PM
You lose when you have to resort to cursing.

Are you a Trump supporter too? I hate to be on the same side of any argument as you.

boutons_deux
05-25-2016, 04:48 PM
Trump Used His Aliases For Much More — And Worse — Than Gossip

http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-used-aliases-much-more-worse-gossip/

Tramp is one sick mofo

Fabbs
05-25-2016, 06:00 PM
Caught fibbing, Trump scrambles to address veterans controversy
In January, Donald Trump skipped a Republican debate in order to host a fundraiser for veterans. He boasted at the time (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/donald-trumps-shady-support-veterans) that he’d raised $6 million for vets – which led to a related boast that Trump contributed $1 million out of his own pocket.[/FONT][/COLOR]marshal,” and “made a $1 million matching donation to finance the Nation’s Day Parade.”[/FONT][/SIZE]

Trump did save the event, according to the parade’s organizer, but he didn’t give $1 million to it.
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In the event SpursTalk has any legit veteran/Trumper Supporter combos, are you really gonna just let this go?

Will the vets at large that are buying Hump really just let this go? :lol

boutons_deux
05-26-2016, 06:47 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/would_trump_or_clinton_be_better_at-_-_trump_better_clinton_better_chartbuilder_ee0726da 9a568d866315e5cb7811ebef.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.png

Delusions dominate voters who apparently think the Pres is an omnipotent autocrat.

btw, neither Trump nor Hillary will even try to "deal" with Wall St, and wouldn't dent Wall St if they did try.

rmt
05-26-2016, 07:34 AM
I'm encouraged from that poll that maybe Trump will win since he's ahead on the "Dealing with the economy" question - which is usually the subject most of people's minds.

boutons_deux
05-26-2016, 07:55 AM
I'm encouraged from that poll that maybe Trump will win since he's ahead on the "Dealing with the economy" question - which is usually the subject most of people's minds.

sure, people vote their wallet, while 10Ms vote their Bible.

But with Repugs controlling Congress and budgeting for austerity, the economy will remain well short of robust, and downright nightmarish for 40M+ people on public assistance, for the working poor.

boutons_deux
05-26-2016, 09:57 AM
Why a prominent GOP governor is feuding with Donald Trump


http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/styles/ratio--3-2--1_5x-1245x830/public/jamilsmith7E0735A2-0521-049B-32AC-3EAFFB8B0EAE.jpg?itok=Vmxc6ey2

Trump appeared in New Mexico on Tuesday night, though the governor steered clear of the event, saying she was too “busy” to appear with the GOP presidential hopeful.

Soon after, speaking to a receptive audience, Trump suggested Martinez, the nation’s first and only Latina governor, was lazy and ineffectual. “We have got to get your governor to get going,” he said.

“She’s got to do a better job, okay? Your governor has got to do a better job. She’s not doing the job…. She’s not doing the job. We’ve got to get her moving. Come on, let’s go, governor.”
Keep in mind, Martinez is a conservative Republican and the current chair of the Republican Governors Association. For months, pundits have talked about the New Mexico governor as a leading contender for the party’s vice presidential nomination and a rising GOP star.

Which makes Trump’s criticisms – read from pre-written notes, not made off the cuff – all the more striking. It’s one thing for Trump to take some verbal shots at leading Republicans during the primaries after they’ve endorsed a rival candidate, but in GOP politics, the primaries are over.

Trump’s the last man standing, and this is the point in the process in which he’s

(a) supposed to be uniting the party,

(b) stepping up outreach to Hispanic voters; and

(c) toning down his attacks on women.

And yet, this week in New Mexico, Trump did the exact opposite. The question is, why?

Slate’s Josh Voorhees ran through (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/25/trump_attacks_susana_martinez_because_he_can.html) some of the possibilities:

“Trump is a bully, and his attack last night could have been an effort to force Martinez’s hand, or a warning to other party figures still on the fence. It could have been Trump trying to re-establish his anti-establishment bona fides now that the GOP is mainstreaming him, or simply him overreacting to a political slight, either because he couldn’t stop himself or because he didn’t want to.”

It’s obviously speculative, but I’m going with “the guy just can’t help himself.”

When Trump goes on the offensive like this, it’s hard to see any broader strategic thinking. In this case, Martinez slighted Trump by saying she didn’t want to appear with him, so the presidential candidate responded the only way he knows how: by lashing out.

And while that’s notable on its face, it’s also the sort of instinct that causes consternation among Republican insiders who want to win the White House.

Presidential candidates are supposed to develop a pretty thick skin while having enough discipline to resist the urge to initiate pointless feuds, especially with high-profile members of their own party.

Trump, however, doesn’t really know what he’s doing, so he relies on his instincts while making up a strategy as he goes along.

This week’s volley wasn’t pretty, and if you’re expecting more fights like this one in the coming months, you probably won’t be disappointed.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/why-prominent-gop-governor-feuding-donald-trump?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Tramp is mentally disordered, emotionally, intellectually arrested at the age of early teens.

boutons_deux
05-26-2016, 03:14 PM
“He needs an experienced person to do the part of the job he doesn’t want to do.

He seems himself more as the chairman of the board, than even the CEO, let alone the COO.”



This is no small acknowledgement. For months,

it’s been clear that Trump has no meaningful understanding of public policy or even how government works at a basic level.

By any fair measure, his ignorance and incompetence about affairs of state is unlike anything Americans have ever seen in a major-party presidential candidate. The question has long been when we can expect Trump to get up to speed.

And the answer is, he has no intention of doing any such thing. Day-to-governing and overseeing the executive branch are apparently represent “the part of the job he doesn’t want to do.”

President Trump, in other words, would prefer to be more of a big-picture kind of guy who isn’t overly concerned about details and roll-up-your-sleeves kind of work.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/there-are-presidential-duties-trump-doesnt-want-do?cid=sm_fb_maddow

So Tramp thinks he's a Big Picture Artiste, "hiring the best people" who will do the President's job. :lol

boutons_deux
05-26-2016, 03:18 PM
Hillary has blown off Bernie and his Ms of supporters.

Why would Tramp do any different?

boutons_deux
05-26-2016, 03:43 PM
Hillary has blown off Bernie and his Ms of supporters.

Why would Tramp do any different?

Donald Trump says he'll debate ‘dream’ Bernie Sanders — for $10M

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/donald-trump-debate-dream-bernie-sanders-10m-article-1.2651321

:lol Tramp is a 100% scumbag, shitbag. Running for and being President is self-promotion clown's game.

CosmicCowboy
05-26-2016, 03:57 PM
be more of a big-picture kind of guy who isn’t overly concerned about details and roll-up-your-sleeves kind of work.

Sounds like Maddog is talking about Obama.

clambake
05-26-2016, 03:59 PM
boo in rare form today

boutons_deux
05-26-2016, 04:18 PM
Sounds like Maddog is talking about Obama.

as always, sound like you have you head up your ass.

Your boy dubya, the "affirmative action" MBA President :lol, was the ignorant, uneducated Big Picture loser.

boutons_deux
05-26-2016, 04:22 PM
Trump Just Opened His Mouth And Created A Gigantic New Problem For Republicans

During his speech supposedly on energy policy in North Dakota, Donald Trump told voters that only rich people can be great.

Trump said,

“There is one more thing that we have to do to make America wealthy again, and you have to be wealthy in order to be great.

I’m sorry to say it :lol …..

We’ll build the wall.

We’re going to build the wall.

Believe me. (I'm LYING my ass off, as always )

We’re going to build the wall.”

In Donald Trump’s view greatness only comes with wealth.

People who dedicate their lives to helping others for low pay aren’t great.

Public servants who risk their lives as police officers, firefighters, or serving in the military aren’t great.

To Trump, greatness is defined by the size of your bank account.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/26/trump-opened-mouth-created-gigantic-problem-republicans.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/26/trump-opened-mouth-created-gigantic-problem-republicans.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)9

In the BigCorp/captalist/VRWC/1%/neoliberal world view, if you aren't one of them, you're sub-human untermenschen, so G F Y.

Dirk Oneanddoneski
05-26-2016, 06:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Pet14uM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Eco60gl.jpg

Meltdown:lol https://twitter.com/elizabethforma

rmt
05-26-2016, 06:13 PM
"She's as Native American as I am"

Reck
05-26-2016, 06:26 PM
LOL there's reported in-fighting within his own campaign now.

If the Clinton campaign is smart they would hired the guy who got canned from Trump's staff so he can give some dirt on how they run shit over there.

Mitch
05-26-2016, 10:55 PM
LOL there's reported in-fighting within his own campaign now.

If the Clinton campaign is smart they would hired the guy who got canned from Trump's staff so he can give some dirt on how they run shit over there.

Where you hear of infighting, Reck? Trump's people disliked Wiley, the guy who was fired. He was brought on from the RNC and didn't see eye to eye with Trump. This just means Trump is keeping Corey as his #1 guy instead of having a GOP official head his campaign.

New Mexico voters aren't even complaining about Trump shitting on their gov :lol

spankadelphia
05-26-2016, 11:06 PM
This just in: DRUMPF DESTROYED! HOW WILL HE EVER RECOVER?!?!?

More at 11.

Reck
05-26-2016, 11:12 PM
Where you hear of infighting, Reck? Trump's people disliked Wiley, the guy who was fired. He was brought on from the RNC and didn't see eye to eye with Trump. This just means Trump is keeping Corey as his #1 guy instead of having a GOP official head his campaign.

New Mexico voters aren't even complaining about Trump shitting on their gov :lol

They were talking about it on CNN.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3610809/Top-Trump-aide-fired-campaign-amid-escalating-claims-infighting-presidential-bid.html

That's what I could find online.

Mitch
05-26-2016, 11:28 PM
They were talking about it on CNN.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3610809/Top-Trump-aide-fired-campaign-amid-escalating-claims-infighting-presidential-bid.html

That's what I could find online.

I'd wager CNN just speculated that instead of reported on it.

Read the article, seems like Manafort hired him and everybody on the Trump Campaign began to hate him. Wiley is a GOP establishment guy, seems pretty predictable that he'd not gel with the pretty close-nit trump campaign (he has under 80 people on payroll for his campaign) who are loyal to Trump's unorthodox stance on liberal - conservative values.

angrydude
05-26-2016, 11:36 PM
Just waiting for Warren's spitting in the wind Twitter meltdown response to be breathlessly reported on by the media as "knowing how to handle Donald Trump's attacks"

InRareForm
05-27-2016, 01:29 AM
Trump was 100/1 to win the republican nomination a year ago.

boutons_deux
05-27-2016, 08:48 AM
my prediction, based on recent elections:

McLiar was proposed as plausible candidate. Got destroyed.

Bishop Gekko was proposed as plausible candidate. Got destroyed.

Donny Trash is proposed as plausible candidate, even has enthusiastic, committed supporters for his ignorance, imperialism, tax-cuts for wealthy, xenophobia, LIES, racism, misogyny right here on Spurstalk. Will get destroyed.

boutons_deux
05-27-2016, 03:25 PM
Trump backs out of debate against Sanders after tech company offers to pay for it

“Based on the fact that the Democratic nominating process is totally rigged and Crooked Hillary Clinton and Deborah Wasserman Schultz will not allow Bernie Sanders to win, and now that I am the presumptive Republican nominee, it seems inappropriate that I would debate the second place finisher,” the statement read.

The statement came to light shortly after Traction and Scale CEO Richie Heckervolunteered (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/tech-company-offers-to-pay-10-million-for-trump-sanders-debate-throwdown/) to offer the $10 million the GOP nominee had wanted to be donated to charity as a condition of debating Sanders.

“The networks want to make a killing on these events and are not proving to be too generous to charitable causes, in this case, women’s health issues,” Trump said in his statement.

“Therefore, as much as I want to debate Bernie Sanders — and it would be an easy payday — I will wait to debate the first place finisher in the Democratic Party, probably Crooked Hillary Clinton, or whoever it may be.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-backs-out-of-debate-against-sanders-after-tech-company-offers-to-pay-for-it/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

"it would be an easy payday" yawn, Trash just another conventional politician in his unbounded venality.

boutons_deux
05-27-2016, 05:03 PM
New York Democrat seeks post-9/11 refund from Donald Trump

The New York Daily News reported (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-9-11-funds-program-net-150g-payday-article-1.2641951) last week, for example, on a post-9/11 program, designed to help small businesses around Ground Zero after the terrorist attacks. According to the article, the state “didn’t enforce federal guidelines on what defines a small business” at the time, and Donald Trump took advantage, receiving $150,000 in taxpayer money for “swanky property” he owned on Wall Street.

The Daily News added (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-9-11-funds-program-net-150g-payday-article-1.2641951) that the money was supposed to help “mom and pop shops make it through an incredibly difficult stretch,” and yet, Trump, a self-professed billionaire, sought and received a slice of the pie.

Today, the New York Times reports (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/us/politics/jerrold-nadler-donald-trump-sept-11.html) that Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), whose district includes Ground Zero and Lower Manhattan, wrote an open letter to Trump, asking for a refund.

“When do you plan on returning the taxpayer money that was designated to ease the suffering of our city’s small-business owners?” Mr. Nadler wrote in the letter, a copy of which his office provided to The New York Times. […]

“It’s been reported that on your grant application, you claimed 40 Wall Street L.L.C. – which employed 28 people and had $26.8 million in annual revenues at the time – as a ‘small business,’” Mr. Nadler wrote. “Despite the federal definition of a small business as having less than $6 million in revenue, you accepted a $150,000 payout.”

He added, “In grabbing that money with both fists, you took it out of the pockets of small-business owners in New York who were truly hurting, and prevented them from taking full advantage of the relief so generously offered by their fellow citizens.”


The Democratic lawmaker went on to urge (http://www.jerrynadler.com/blog/open-letter-donald-j-trump) Trump to “return the funds you received or donate them to a charitable organization dedicated to providing legitimate support for the victims of 9/11.”

Nadler concluded, “Whatever the size of your business, we need no further proof that you are a small man.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/new-york-democrat-seeks-post-911-refund-donald-trump?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Splits
05-27-2016, 05:09 PM
Trump backs out of debate against Sanders after tech company offers to pay for it

“Based on the fact that the Democratic nominating process is totally rigged and Crooked Hillary Clinton and Deborah Wasserman Schultz will not allow Bernie Sanders to win, and now that I am the presumptive Republican nominee, it seems inappropriate that I would debate the second place finisher,” the statement read.


:lol what a pussy

Mitch
05-27-2016, 10:42 PM
:lol what a pussy

RNC and DNC both don't allow unsanctioned debates, tbh.

ducks
05-28-2016, 12:19 AM
:lol what a pussy

He has fucked hotter pussy then u ever have

boutons_deux
05-28-2016, 07:42 AM
Media Explain Everything Wrong With Trump’s Energy Speech
Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump gave a speech about energy issues on May 26 at an oil conference in North Dakota in which he asserted that he would expand fossil fuel drilling and restore coal mining jobs and he ignored or downplayed renewable energy’s potential.

Media figures have criticized Trump’s claims as “utter nonsense” that “defy free market-forces” and noted that his remarks displayed a “lack of basic knowledge” about the energy industry and were full of “absurd, impossible-to-keep promises.”

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/05/27/media-explain-everything-wrong-trump-s-energy-speech/210619?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mediamatters%2Fresearch+%28Me dia+Matters+for+America+-+Research%29

You Trash-fellators are being totally CONNED by Trash's bullshit, lies.

boutons_deux
05-28-2016, 07:47 AM
Donald Trump pivots to the general election: 'I want a statue in Washington' edition (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/27/1531819/-Donald-Trump-pivots-to-the-general-election-I-want-a-statue-in-Washington-edition)

promising to single-handedly end the statewide drought (http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/281555-trump-pledges-to-open-up-the-water-to-solve-calif-drought).


“If I win, we’re going to start opening up the water so you can have your farmers survive, so that your job market will get better,” the presumptive Republican nominee said. “We’re going to get it done and we’re going to get it done quick, don’t even think about it, that’s an easy one.”

Finally, a politician with the good sense to open up the water. Previously the water was closed: he will open it. Because the drought itself, you see, does not exist (http://time.com/4351330/trump-california-no-drought/?xid=tcoshare).

“They don’t understand — nobody understands it,” he said, adding that, “There is no drought.”


Reid J. Epstein
✔‎@reidepstein (https://twitter.com/reidepstein)

Donald Trump in Billings:
“I want a statue in Washington, D.C. Maybe share it with Jefferson or somebody.”


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/05/27/1531819/-Donald-Trump-pivots-to-the-general-election-I-want-a-statue-in-Washington-edition?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

Paraphrase: "We're gonna build water, build beautiful water, build water like you've never seen, and I'm gonna build enough water for everybody, everything"

hater
05-28-2016, 07:47 AM
He has fucked hotter pussy then u ever have

:lmao splits

boutons_deux
05-28-2016, 07:51 AM
Water Scientist Donald Trump on Fixing California's Drought: "Start Opening Up the Water" (http://gawker.com/water-scientist-donald-trump-on-how-to-end-californias-1779228841)

At a rally in Fresno, California (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=550&v=KPe-WY2eghY) today, newfound irrigation expert Donald Trump finally revealed the solution to the drought that’s been crippling California for the past five years: Turn the water back on, idiots.

The historic proposal appropriately took place amid a sea of “Farmers for Trump” signs, where Trump revealed that the reason California’s water problem is “so insane, so ridiculous” is because “they’re taking the water and shoving it out to sea.”

Fortunately for California, when Donald Trump becomes president, he plans to “start opening up the water so that you can have your farmers survive so that your job market will get better”

Now, how is Trump going to make good on his promise of “opening up the water?”

According to Trump, “We’re going to get it done, and we’re going to get it done quick. Don’t even think about it.”

http://gawker.com/water-scientist-donald-trump-on-how-to-end-californias-1779228841?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29

florige
05-28-2016, 08:28 AM
Trump backs out of debate against Sanders after tech company offers to pay for it

“Based on the fact that the Democratic nominating process is totally rigged and Crooked Hillary Clinton and Deborah Wasserman Schultz will not allow Bernie Sanders to win, and now that I am the presumptive Republican nominee, it seems inappropriate that I would debate the second place finisher,” the statement read.

The statement came to light shortly after Traction and Scale CEO Richie Heckervolunteered (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/tech-company-offers-to-pay-10-million-for-trump-sanders-debate-throwdown/) to offer the $10 million the GOP nominee had wanted to be donated to charity as a condition of debating Sanders.

“The networks want to make a killing on these events and are not proving to be too generous to charitable causes, in this case, women’s health issues,” Trump said in his statement.

“Therefore, as much as I want to debate Bernie Sanders — and it would be an easy payday — I will wait to debate the first place finisher in the Democratic Party, probably Crooked Hillary Clinton, or whoever it may be.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-backs-out-of-debate-against-sanders-after-tech-company-offers-to-pay-for-it/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

"it would be an easy payday" yawn, Trash just another conventional politician in his unbounded venality.




I'm not a Trump supporter at all, but him debating Bernie at this point really made no sense for Trump and all it would be doing was creating more buzz for Bernie, and held a real chance to damage Trump. Why would he debate the loser.

hater
05-28-2016, 08:41 AM
Btw isn't Shillary the pussy bitch one??? She's the one afraid to die debate sanders.

Masterful move by sanders to start shit with Donald. Shillary looking like Floyd Fairwheather Jr :lol

Splits
05-28-2016, 11:28 AM
RNC and DNC both don't allow unsanctioned debates, tbh.

:lol you Trumpettes always got an excuse. Neither NC interfered, not even that pussy Trump claimed that excuse when he backed down.


“Well, I hope that he changes his mind again,” Sanders told reporters. “Mr. Trump has been known to change his mind many times in a day.”Sanders, who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, called Trump a “bully,” adding, “Well Mr. Trump, what are you afraid of?”


:lmao getting his shit pushed by a 74 year old socialist Jew

What a fucking PUSSY! :lol

Mitch
05-28-2016, 12:45 PM
:lol you Trumpettes always got an excuse. Neither NC interfered, not even that pussy Trump claimed that excuse when he backed down.



:lmao getting his shit pushed by a 74 year old socialist Jew

What a fucking PUSSY! :lol


There shall be a Standing Committee on Presidential Primary Debates, which shall be composed of thirteen (13) members of the Republican National Committee, five (5) of whom shall be appointed by the Chairman of the Republican National Committee, and each of the four (4) regions shall elect two (2) members, one man and one woman, at its regional caucus at the RNC Summer Meeting in each even-numbered year in which no Presidential election is held. The chairman of the Republican National Committee shall appoint the chairman of the Standing Committee on Presidential Primary Debates from among the members thereof. The Standing Committee on Presidential Primary Debates shall have the authority to sanction debates on behalf of the Republican National Committee based on input from presidential campaigns and criteria which may include but are not limited to considerations of timing, frequency, format, media outlet, and the best interests of the Republican Party. Each debate sanctioned by the Standing Committee on Presidential Primary Debates shall be known as a "Sanctioned Debate." Any presidential candidate who participates in any debate that is not a Sanctioned Debate shall not be eligible to participate in any further Sanctioned Debates.

Stop being a moron, Splits.

Fabbs
05-28-2016, 12:51 PM
Never intended to debate Bernie.

Like all of Trumps maneuvers, calculated lures.

Reck
05-28-2016, 01:03 PM
Btw isn't Shillary the pussy bitch one??? She's the one afraid to die debate sanders.

Masterful move by sanders to start shit with Donald. Shillary looking like Floyd Fairwheather Jr :lol

She had a more legit excuse not to debate. She thinks it's over which if you see the numbers, basically it is over so no need to debate.

In the other hand, you had this faggot challenging Sanders, puts up unrealistic conditions and when Sanders still wanted to do it he says wait a minute I dont want to get embarrassed worldwide so let me leave. :lmao

Splits
05-28-2016, 01:34 PM
Stop being a moron, Splits.


Any presidential candidate who participates in any debate that is not a Sanctioned Debate shall not be eligible to participate in any further Sanctioned Debates.

So if he debates Sanders, the penalty is that he is not allowed to participate in any more RNC-sanctioned debates. Of which, there are none. :lol No wonder neither he or anybody else used this lame excuse for backing down scared from a 74 year old socialist

Keep trying to :downspin: Trump's cowardice

Bernie called him a bully, but the fact is he is a pussy.

Mitch
05-28-2016, 02:27 PM
So if he debates Sanders, the penalty is that he is not allowed to participate in any more RNC-sanctioned debates. Of which, there are none. :lol No wonder neither he or anybody else used this lame excuse for backing down scared from a 74 year old socialist

Keep trying to :downspin: Trump's cowardice

Bernie called him a bully, but the fact is he is a pussy.

You can't be that dumb, can you Splits? If he breaches that then he will just have to participate in DNC sanctioned debates. So he's going to enjoy CNN or nothing.

Reck
05-28-2016, 02:37 PM
You can't be that dumb, can you Splits? If he breaches that then he will just have to participate in DNC sanctioned debates. So he's going to enjoy CNN or nothing.

C'mon Mitch. You're smart enough to know that 1, Trump doesn't give 2 fucks about breaking RNC rules. In fact he has been breaking their rules from the start. He's the same guy who said there will be no more debates and the RNC being the beta cucks they are cancelled all the remaining debates because Trump said so.

Trump just got scared when he saw Sanders still wanted to do it even after his ridiculous asking price.

There were rumors that ABC and CBS were going to split the money difference to make the debate happen. Even the young turds put a million bucks on the line to make it happen.

It was too real for Trump so he had to tuck his tail and run.

Mitch
05-28-2016, 02:50 PM
C'mon Mitch. You're smart enough to know that 1, Trump doesn't give 2 fucks about breaking RNC rules. In fact he has been breaking their rules from the start. He's the same guy who said there will be no more debates and the RNC being the beta cucks they are cancelled all the remaining debates because Trump said so.

Trump just got scared when he saw Sanders still wanted to do it even after his ridiculous asking price.

There were rumors that ABC and CBS were going to split the money difference to make the debate happen. Even the young turds put a million bucks on the line to make it happen.

It was too real for Trump so he had to tuck his tail and run.

All rumors, Reck. Pretty sure Trump doesn't want to muck up uniting the GOP before convention, tbh.

Hillary should debate him, though :tu

Reck
05-28-2016, 02:52 PM
All rumors, Reck. Pretty sure Trump doesn't want to muck up uniting the GOP before convention, tbh.

Hillary should debate him, though :tu

Why do you think she should debate him but not Trump? I mean, he's the one who even proposed the thing. Stop shielding. :lol

Mitch
05-28-2016, 02:54 PM
Why do you think she should debate him but not Trump? I mean, he's the one who even proposed the thing. Stop shielding. :lol

Because she should follow her own beliefs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Benyh_m5Vc8

Reck
05-28-2016, 02:56 PM
Because she should follow her own beliefs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Benyh_m5Vc8

OK, but I dont know what she has to do with Bernie v Trump debate though.

Dont say you would debate a guy for charity and walk out on that. That's a shitty thing to do.

Splits
05-28-2016, 03:19 PM
You can't be that dumb, can you Splits? If he breaches that then he will just have to participate in DNC sanctioned debates. So he's going to enjoy CNN or nothing.

What the fuck are you talking about? You either didn't read what you posted (only applies to RNC primary debates) or you've gone full retard.

Talk about dumb. Trump is a pussy and you know it.

Splits
05-28-2016, 03:22 PM
All rumors

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281557-tech-firm-well-pay-10m-for-trump-sanders-debate


May 27, 2016, 04:20 pm
Tech firm offers $10M for Trump-Sanders debate


A technology investment company says it will foot the $10 million bill for a potential debate between presidential candidates Donald Trump (http://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) and Bernie Sanders (http://thehill.com/people/bernie-sanders).

“Yesterday, Mr. Trump asked for a $10 [million] donation to charity in order to accept Mr. Sanders’s challenge to debate him,” Richie Hecker, chairman and CEO of Traction and Scale, said in a statement to BuzzFeed (https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/tech-company-we-will-put-up-10-million-for-bernie-trump-deba?utm_term=.jho656N0m#.qhNLDLPRj). "We are willing to offer that $10 [million] donation in return for the opportunity to host the debate.

“We believe that Mr. Sanders and Mr. Trump collectively represent the voice of the American people. We are confident that convening the voice of the people in a nonpartisan forum will spark the revolution and make America great again.”New York-based Traction and Scale invests in “transformative businesses that makes peoples’ lives easier,” according to its website (http://www.tractionandscale.com/).

Hecker on Friday said that his company would seek “the largest venue” possible in California if Sanders, who is running for the Democratic nomination, and Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, agree to a June 6 debate there. Traction and Scale would focus primarily on internet streaming of the event, he added, but also expects TV coverage as well.

After back and forth between the two camps, with Sanders seeming on board with the idea, Trump shut debate talks down on Friday in a statement, saying, "it seems inappropriate that I would debate the second place finisher."


Idiot.