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boutons_deux

08-10-2016, 06:29 PM

Hannity Mainstreams a Very Silly Response to Trump’s Bad Poll Numbers

“Social Media Patterns Show Trump Is Looking at a Landslide Victory.” (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/evidence-trump-landslide/)

Evidence from ‘The Truth Division’ shows that if you look at social media, Trump is killing Hillary!

Facebook

Trump: 10,174,358 Likes Clinton: 5,385,959 Likes
Trump has nearly double the amount of ‘Likes’ that Clinton has!

Twitter

Trump: 10.6 million followers
Hillary: 8.1 million followers

Trump has 30% more Twitter followers — and they translate into real votes. A recent study confirmed that 70% of his followers are real supporters, and 90% of those real followers have a voting history.

Who knows if Hillary followers are even real?

And Hannity went right ahead and said, “Analysis from the two candidates’ social media accounts could mean Donald Trump would win in a landslide.”

He listed off the social media stats for both and said on his website (http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/heres-why-trump-supporters-shouldnt-be-14991957/), “Don’t let the polls discourage you.”

So we’ve gone from THE POLLS ARE RIGGED to FORGET THE POLLS to FACEBOOK LIKES MEANS HILLARY LOSES.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/hannity-mainstreams-a-very-silly-response-to-trumps-bad-poll-numbers/

hater

08-10-2016, 06:30 PM

:lmao so what happened did they fail to put Trump in the class corner :lmao

boutons_deux

08-10-2016, 06:37 PM

Ann Kirkpatrick's new ad reminds you how many times John McCain is willing to lick Trump's boots (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/10/1558786/-Ann-Kirkpatrick-s-new-ad-reminds-you-just-many-times-John-McCain-is-willing-to-lick-Trump-s-boots)

How much support would you lend to someone who demeaned your service to your country? How about someone who accused you of mistreating veterans? How many times would you let someone attack the very core of who you are, and still pop up to ask for ‘please, sir, more?’

If you’re John McCain, the answer is plain: an infinite amount.

McCain continued to support Donald Trump even after Trump pointedly refused to support him. McCain supported Trump event after Trump called for McCain to be defeated. McCain still kept his allegiance to Trump after Trump called him a “dummy” and falsely stated that McCain was last in his class at the naval academy.

And McCain’s self-diminishment goes beyond just accepting personal abuse. Someone who is supposedly a defense expert might be expected to shy away from supporting a man who is being shunned by 50 Republican experts on national security (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/8/8/1558047/--None-of-us-will-vote-for-Donald-Trump-say-50-national-security-Republicans).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/08/10/1558786/-Ann-Kirkpatrick-s-new-ad-reminds-you-just-many-times-John-McCain-is-willing-to-lick-Trump-s-boots?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

McLiar must think he's going to be re-elected on Trash's long coattailes. :lol

Dirk Oneanddoneski

08-10-2016, 07:55 PM

Anyone read Hillarys medical records? Shes all fucked up

http://i.imgur.com/NHC72nb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XYCQomG.jpg

boutons_deux

08-10-2016, 08:03 PM

#NeverTrump GOP senator voting for Colin Powell over Hillary because of Iran deal — which Powell backed

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL), who made waves earlier this year when he said he would not vote for GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, undermined his own argument on Wednesday when pressed by CNN host Brooke Baldwin.

Kirk said he would not vote for Democrat Hillary Clinton, arguing that he “can’t support someone who was for the Iran agreement.”

Powell also supported the nuclear agreement between the US and Iran.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/nevertrump-gop-senator-voting-for-colin-powell-over-hillary-because-of-iran-deal-which-he-backed/

:lol

Reck

08-10-2016, 08:32 PM

:lmao :lmao

This motherfucker is imploding.

Says Obama and Hillary co-founded ISIS straight up. :lmao

TheSanityAnnex

08-10-2016, 08:40 PM

http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/lead_960_zpscxaznaxg.jpg
Poor Clinton
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/hillary-cant-fill-high-school-gym-iowa-trump-fills-12000-fl-arena-overflow/

hitmanyr2k

08-10-2016, 08:49 PM

Poor Clinton
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/hillary-cant-fill-high-school-gym-iowa-trump-fills-12000-fl-arena-overflow/

Why does this narrative sound so familiar?

Oh yeah :lol

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/wow-20000-30000-turn-out-to-see-romney-ryan-in-ohio-obama-draws-crowds-less-than-4000/

TheSanityAnnex

08-10-2016, 08:52 PM

Why does this narrative sound so familiar?

Oh yeah :lol

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/wow-20000-30000-turn-out-to-see-romney-ryan-in-ohio-obama-draws-crowds-less-than-4000/

Nice find. looks like business as usual for Hillary.

TheSanityAnnex

08-10-2016, 09:17 PM

blast from the past when MSNBC wasn't on Clinton's payroll

nC6Sa8t9Ywg

DarrinS

08-10-2016, 09:19 PM

blast from the past when MSNBC wasn't on Clinton's payroll

nC6Sa8t9Ywg

Whatever happened to that drama queen?

Splits

08-11-2016, 07:27 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpkx8F_UEAA8bBq.jpg

Reck

08-11-2016, 10:26 AM

Trump doubling down on Obama founder of ISIS. :lmao

Epic meltdown.

Pelicans78

08-11-2016, 10:28 AM

Reck

08-11-2016, 10:34 AM

Trump looks drugged out. Probably sees all the polls widening.

Hillary's average is now 8 points overall. Damnn

Pelicans78

08-11-2016, 10:46 AM

Trump looks drugged out. Probably sees all the polls widening.

Hillary's average is now 8 points overall. Damnn

Yeah the Democrats are extremely luckily that Trump is running. Even Nixon post-Watergate would have a decent chance to win.

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 11:07 AM

Sean Hannity is Melting Down Already Because He Knows He’ll be to Blame For Hillary Winning

Joe Scarborough and Sean Hannity (http://www.mediaite.com/online/scarborough-hannity-can-run-from-their-trump-boosterism-but-they-shouldnt-be-allowed-to-hide/), in different but similar ways, are attempting to take cover from blowback for their obvious promotion of Donald Trump during the primaries.

Since then both have doubled, if not tripled, down on their desperate attempts to re-write history and absolve themselves from blame for the coming general election disaster.

However, Hannity deserves special mention here for going off the rails last night (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/hannity-angrily-rants-against-republicans-sabotaging-trump-names-names/) and bringing fellow Trump sycophant Laura Ingraham along to ride shotgun.

Hannity ramped up his attempt to create the (absurd) narrative that it is the “Never Trump” Republicans who will keep Trump from winning and hand Hillary the keys to the White House. He did so by naming several conservative leaders who have refused endorse Trump for president.

Among the many he cited were Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz.

He called them “crybabies” who are playing a “stupid game” and “sabotaging” the election.

It is they, he claims, who will be personally responsible for everything Hillary does in office.

However, if you look up “projection” in the dictionary (Sean may need to) it is clear that this is exactly what Hannity is doing.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-hannity-is-melting-down-already-because-he-knows-hell-be-to-blame-for-hillary-winning/

Ailes' Fox is so self-fucked,

Repugs are so fucked :lol

Trash! :lol

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 11:08 AM

Trevor Noah explains how Trump’s “Second Amendment” comment is like the famous internet dress

“In this situation, there’s two basic schools of thought,” Noah explained. “Either this was a wry comment about shooting a future president, or it was a call to voter action — and no one can agree. Was it a joke? Or was it serious?”

Noah compared Trump’s amoebic speeches to the 2015 viral phenomenon “the dress (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress_(viral_phenomenon)),” in that “we’re all trying to figure out what the hell it is, and no one can agree.”

“Normally politicians only get to have interpreters when they’re traveling overseas,” Noah continued. “But Donald Trump — he needs one for his own country.”

http://www.salon.com/2016/08/11/watch-trevor-noah-explains-how-trumps-second-amendment-comment-is-like-the-famous-internet-dress/

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 11:13 AM

Why Trump and Pence Aren't Talking About the Auto Bailout in the Midwest

They've both been critical of the move that may have saved hundreds of thousands of jobs.

If the federal government hadn't bailed out the auto industry in 2009, the state of Michigan—where Donald Trump spoke (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-economic-plan-taxes-detroit) about his economic plans Monday—could have lost 338,000 jobs over two years.

On Friday, the Republican nominee will be in Pennsylvania, a state that could have lost 49,000 jobs.

That's according to a 2009 analysis (http://www.cargroup.org/assets/files/impact.pdf) by the Center for Automotive Research of the worst-case scenario for Chrysler and General Motors.

Trump's running mate, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, appeared on Wednesday in Ohio, which could have lost 201,000 jobs.

And Pence is speaking Thursday in Wisconsin, where 44,000 people could have been put out of work.

But as they campaign in the Midwest, Trump and Pence could be undercut by their criticism of that bailout.

Pence was firmly against it, and Trump, despite his customary rhetorical whirligigging that makes it impossible to pin down his actual stance, has made clear that he was not a fan of how President Barack Obama handled the situation.

While Chrysler did start manufacturing Jeeps in China again, that was to sell them in the country and avoid tariffs there.

The company was expanding (http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2012/11/02/trump-slams-auto-bailout-chrysler-exec-fires-back/?cb=logged0.9492357664034934&cb=logged0.5151344707514698) Jeep production domestically at the same time.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-auto-bailout-mike-pence

Repugs, ALWAYS wrong. :lol

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 11:14 AM

Trump Defends Calling Obama ISIS Founder: ‘All I Do Is Tell the Truth’

Donald Trumpdefended his comment Wednesday night that President Barack Obama was the co-founder of ISIS, telling CNBC’s Squawk Box Thursday that he only ever tells the truth.

“He was the founder, absolutely the founder,” Trump said. “In fact, he gets– in sports, they have awards– he gets the Most Valuable Player award. Him, and [Hillary Clinton]. I mean she gets it too.”

“Is there something wrong with saying that?” he asked. “Are people complaining that I said he was the founder of ISIS?”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-defends-calling-obama-isis-founder-all-i-do-is-tell-the-truth/

Reck

08-11-2016, 11:16 AM

Gary Johnson just killed himself. He echoed what Trump said about Obama and Hillary about being the founders of ISIS.

Obviously pandering to Trump's supporters but this is a huge fail.

DMX7

08-11-2016, 11:24 AM

Gary Johnson just killed himself. He echoed what Trump said about Obama and Hillary about being the founders of ISIS.

Obviously pandering to Trump's supporters but this is a huge fail.

jill stein is a more serious candidate than Gary.

CosmicCowboy

08-11-2016, 11:27 AM

Jill Stein is a joke.

“My Power to the People Plan creates deep system change, moving from the greed and exploitation of corporate capitalism to a human-centered economy that puts people, planet and peace over profit.

:lmao

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 12:04 PM

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-blasts-media-for-reporting-things-he-says

TRUMP BLASTS MEDIA FOR REPORTING THINGS HE SAYS

NEW YORK — The Republican nominee Donald Trump tore into the media on Thursday for what he called their “extremely unfair practice” of reporting the things he says.

“I’ll say something at a rally and I look out and see all these TV cameras taking every word down,” Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity.

“No one in politics has ever been subjected to this kind of treatment.”

“It’s unbelievable and, frankly, very unethical,” he added.

At a rally in Florida, the candidate lashed out at a TV cameraman whom he caught in the act of recording his words for broadcasting purposes.

“Look at him over there, picking up everything I’m saying, folks,” Trump shouted. “Get him out of here.”

In his interview with Fox, Trump hinted that he might drop out of this fall’s televised Presidential debates if the media continues its practice of reporting the things he says.

“I’ve always said that I would be willing to debate if I’m treated fairly,” Trump told Hannity.

“But if the media keeps recording everything I say, word for word, and then playing it back so that everyone in the country hears exactly what I said, I would consider that very, very unfair.”

DMX7

08-11-2016, 12:06 PM

White link... didn't read.

ducks

08-11-2016, 12:13 PM

Axl Rose

08-11-2016, 12:23 PM

Trump is playing possum, nothing matters until the debates start. He endorsed McCain Rubio and all the rhinos to bring "never trump" back in line. Hillary is in such bad shape that she can't even handle a heckler or climb some steps without secret service assistance. She may literally have a stroke on stage when trump busts out the real dirt on live tv.

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 12:28 PM

Trash in on the trash heap, discarded garbage.

There aren't enough of you dumbfuck Trash fellators to bring him with 10 points Hillary in November

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 12:30 PM

Monmouth Poll Asked Which is the Biggest Threat to Your Way of Life: Hillary, Trump or ISIS?

When the pollsters were asked which of 6 options made them feel the most threatened, the two answers that came back with highest numbers were radical Islamic terrorists and Donald Trump.

Sixty-one percent of those surveyed electorate said they feel personally threatened by Islamic extremists, while the Republican mogul candidate rang in at 54% :lol

http://www.mediaite.com/online/monmouth-poll-asked-which-is-the-biggest-threat-to-your-way-of-life-hillary-trump-or-isis/

angrydude

08-11-2016, 12:31 PM

ISIS was really started around 2006; Combination of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and Saddam's army generals. In fact, the current "Caliph" Al-Baghdadi was released by the Bush administration. Anything else is BS.

And it didn't become relevant until Obama and Hillary gave them all those guns to overthrow Assad knowing full well what would happen.

As usual, literal liberals are intentionally obtuse.

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 12:34 PM

" Obama and Hillary gave them all those guns to overthrow Assad."

link? The biggest source was the Iraqi army dropping their arms and equipment when faced with ISIS.

As usual, you rightwingnut Repugs love to forget your boys dubya/dichhead/BigOil created the M/E shitpile by lying their way into Iraq for oil.

Splits

08-11-2016, 12:37 PM

Sixty-one percent of those surveyed electorate said they feel personally threatened by Islamic extremists

Jesus fuck this country is full of pussies.

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 12:42 PM

Trump taint forever toxic: GOPers wouldn’t even interview someone with ‘Trump 2016’ on their résumé

Donald Trump and his toxic presidential campaign is driving away staffers from the Republican National Committee because they rightly fear coming into contact with the stench of a potentially historic loser.“If someone applied for a job and brought in a résumé that had Trump 2016 on it, I wouldn’t give them an interview,” a Republican fundraising consultant told Time (http://time.com/4447985/inside-donald-trump-meltdown/).

Behind the scenes, at least 11 RNC staffers have bolted since March, and many of them have cited Trump as the reason, reported Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/republican-national-committee-trump-rnc-226844).

The website reported that deputy press secretary James Hewitt, spokesman Fred Brown, director of Hispanic media Ruth Guerra, and research analysts Lars Trautman and Colin Spence have all blamed Trump for their decision to leave the RNC, and at least three other staffers have left over Trump’s candidacy.

Polls show Trump has put reliably red states such as Arizona, Georgia and South Carolina into play for Hillary Clinton, who is courting Mormon voters (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-reaches-out-to-mormon-voters-in-effort-to-win-utah/) in surprisingly competitive Utah.

Those signs are pointing to a potentially disastrous election for Republicans, whose down-ballot candidates (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/marco-rubio-and-pat-toomey-falling-behind-democratic-rivals-thanks-to-their-support-for-trump/) are also being tied to the boat anchor of Trump’s campaign.

Trump has established few campaign operations in key swing states such as Ohio, where campaign volunteers aren’t even sure whether they have the backing of local Republican Party officials.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/trump-taint-forever-toxic-gopers-wouldnt-even-interview-someone-with-trump-2016-on-their-resume/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Trash! :lol

Trash supporters! :lol

Trash ST supporters! :lol

Reck

08-11-2016, 12:51 PM

Thursday, August 11, 2016

Is the air going out of Hillary Clinton’s post-convention bounce?

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online White House Watch survey of Likely U.S. Voters shows the Democratic nominee with 43% support to Donald Trump’s 40%. Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson picks up eight percent (8%) of the vote, while Green Party nominee Jill Stein trails with two percent (2%). Four percent (4%) like some other candidate, and three percent (3%) are undecided.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/questions/pt_survey_questions/august_2016/questions_election_2016_white_house_watch_august_9 _10_2016

Hey moron, its Rasmussen. They've had Trump up for most of the year. 3 points is actually the highest she's ever been on their polling.

Also they dont even do head to head polling anymore because then that 3 point lead she has on the 4 way would be 5 or 6 if they just said Trump v Hillary.

Splits

08-11-2016, 12:57 PM

that R:lolsmussen poll "Trump gets 20% black support to Clinton’s 72%."

Reality:

(https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
(https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)

POLLSTER (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
CLINTON (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
JOHNSON (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
STEIN (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
TRUMP (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)

ABC News/Washington Post (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
83% (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
4% (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
8% (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
2% (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)

Fox News (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
85 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
7 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
— (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
1 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)

Marist (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
89 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
5 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
3 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
2 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)

NBC News/Wall Street Journal (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
86 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)

4 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
1 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)

Average (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
86 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
4 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
5 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)
2 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-in-fourth-place-among-black-voters/)

Trainwreck2100

08-11-2016, 01:08 PM

Sixty-one percent of those surveyed electorate said they feel personally threatened by Islamic extremists, while the Republican mogul candidate rang in at 54%

That's over 100 percent

FlAVaK

08-11-2016, 01:22 PM

^guess one can feel threatened by two things...

ducks

08-11-2016, 01:38 PM

Jesus fuck this country is full of pussies.

if you live in orlanda you might feel different

Splits

08-11-2016, 02:22 PM

if you live in orlanda you might feel different

No.

Now go update your grindr profile.

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 03:09 PM

BUSTED: Trump told 30 lies in two days during 2007 deposition about his ‘billionaire’ claims

The Washington Post said on Wednesday (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/trump-lies/) that the lawsuit began when Trump sued author Timothy O’Brien for defamation when O’Brien’s book TrumpNation: The Art of Being The Donald said that realistic estimates of the former reality TV star’s net worth would place him in the category of millionaire, not billionaire as he frequently claims.

Trump lost that lawsuit (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-loses-libel-lawsuit-232923), but not before O’Brien’s legal team turned the tables on the real estate magnate and summoned him for a lengthy deposition regarding his net worth.

It was in this deposition that Trump made his now-notorious pronouncement (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-loses-libel-lawsuit-232923) that he bases his net worth on his “feelings.”

“Yes, even my own feelings, as to where the world is, where the world is going, and that can change rapidly from day to day. Then you have a September 11th, and you don’t feel so good about yourself and you don’t feel so good about the world and you don’t feel so good about New York City. Then you have a year later, and the city is as hot as a pistol. Even months after that it was a different feeling. So yeah, even my own feelings affect my value to myself.”

According to the Post, Trump stretched the truth to the breaking point in a number of statements.

“Trump had misstated sales at his condo buildings. Inflated the price of membership at one of his golf clubs. Overstated the depth of his past debts and the number of his employees,” wrote David A. Fahrenthold and Robert O’Harrow Jr.

“Trump’s falsehoods were unstrategic — needless, highly specific, easy to disprove. When caught, Trump sometimes blamed others for the error or explained that the untrue thing really was true, in his mind, because he saw the situation more positively than others did,” the Post continued.

O’Brien said after the lawsuit was settled, “A very clear and visible side effect of my lawyers’ questioning of Trump is that he [was revealed as] a routine and habitual fabulist.”

Trump admitted to the Post that the intent of his lawsuit was to punish O’Brien for saying mean things about him.

“I didn’t read [the book], to be honest with you,” he said. “I never read it. I saw some of the things they said. I said: ‘Go sue him. It will cost him a lot of money.’ ”

Trump lied to O’Brien’s attorneys about his percentage of ownership in a Manhattan real estate group saying that he owned a 50 percent stake of the business, when in fact he owned less than 30 percent.

He claimed that he was paid $1 million for a single speech to New York City’s Learning Annex. He actually received $400,000.

The lawyers pointed to an interview with CNN’s Larry King in which Trump claimed to employ “Twenty-two thousand or so” workers.

“Are all those people on your payroll?” attorney Andrew Ceresny asked.

“No, not directly,” Trump admitted. He said that the figure he stated on Larry King Live included employees of other companies that acted as suppliers and subcontractors to Trump businesses.

He lied about the membership fee for one of his golf courses, inflating the figure by $100,000.

He lied about the extent of his debt in the early 90s to make his climb back to solvency look more heroic.

Trump also made a number of unsubstantiated claims in an attempt to slander and discredit O’Brien including a made-up claim that the writer was once arrested for stalking.

“I guess that was probably taken off the Internet,” Trump admitted.

The real estate magnate said that O’Brien has a reputation for threatening his sources, for using public forums to fire arrows at longtime enemies and settle old scores.

“What was the basis for that statement?” Ceresny asked.

“Just my perception of him,” Trump answered. “I don’t know that he indicated anything like that to me, but I think he probably did indirectly.”

At the end of the deposition sessions, Trump’s attorney Mark Ressler ordered that the transcripts be sealed from public scrutiny.

“I want the record to be crystal clear that every single word, every question, every answer, every word, is confidential,” Ressler demanded.

However, after he lost the suit, then appealed and then lost again, the testimony was entered into the public record.

Trump still lies when asked about the outcome of the lawsuit.

“O’Brien knows nothing about me,” Trump said in a statement to the Post this week. “His book was a total failure and ultimately I had great success doing what I wanted to do — costing this third rate reporter a lot of legal fees.”

O’Brien countered that his publisher and their insurers paid to defend TrumpNation in court, “Donald Trump lost his lawsuit and, unlike him, it didn’t cost me a penny to litigate it.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/busted-trump-told-30-lies-in-two-days-during-2007-deposition-about-his-billionaire-claims/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol Trash is one fucking sicko!

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 03:12 PM

Even Trump-backing Republicans are bracing for a massive loss — and it’s only August

Normally, you don’t start to see elected officials admitting that their presidential candidate is toast until late September or early October.This year, it’s happening in August.

The Hill has done some interviews (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/291037-gloom-sets-in-for-gop) with several Congressional Republicans who all say that Hillary Clinton is very likely to win the presidential election in November.

“I think it will be Hillary,” admitted one House GOP lawmaker who has endorsed Trump.

“If he continues the next 90 days like the last week, then he will lose big time,” said another Trump-backing GOP lawmaker.

“Another autopsy will occur and the next time I hope lessons will be learned,” Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) :lol like in 2012? :lol

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/even-trump-backing-republicans-are-bracing-for-a-massive-loss-and-its-only-august/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 03:15 PM

Staffer: Trump’s screaming NC campaign director pulled gun and threatened to blow off my kneecap

As taffer from Donald Trump’s North Carolina operation is suing the campaign and former state campaign director Earl Phillip, alleging that Phillip threatened him and other staffers with a gun.According to WBTV in Charlotte (http://www.wbtv.com/story/32736823/lawsuit-trump-campaign-failed-to-act-after-staffer-pulled-gun?clienttype=generic), when Vincent Bordini approached higher-ups in the campaign, they did nothing. Another campaign official confided to Bordini that he, too, had been threatened at gunpoint by Phillip.

WBTV’s Nick Ochsner posted the first page (https://twitter.com/NickOchsnerWBTV/status/763725273120419840) of Bordini’s complaint on Twitter. The incident took place in Phillip’s Jeep in February of this year, reportedly, when Phillip “produced a pistol, put his right index finger on the trigger, and drove the barrel into Vincent’s knee cap.”

Bordini went straight to campaign officials, the suit says, speaking first to the Trump campaign’s regional director of western North Carolina.

“The Director told Vincent that he, too, had been brandished upon by Phillip,” the lawsuit says. “He was terrified.”

Phillip’s Facebook timeline is littered with pro-gun memes. “Until I am out of ammo or out of blood, I WILL FIGHT,” says one post.

“Life is about kicking ass,” says one image depicting an Army special forces operative brandishing an assault weapon, “not kissing it.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/staffer-trumps-screaming-nc-campaign-director-pulled-gun-and-threatened-to-blow-off-my-kneecap/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Trash fucked-up campaign is full of fucked-up sickos. which mirrors Trash's fucked-up supporters.

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 03:17 PM

WashPo: Sean Hannity’s Yarn About a Heroic Trump Is a Complete Lie

The Fox commentator’s website aired a story in May about how Trumppersonally sent his private plane to go ferry 200 Gulf War Marines home (http://www.hannity.com/onair/the-sean-hannity-show-55176/200-stranded-marines-needed-a-plane-14727522/), after they had been left stranded by a logistical error in 1991. The Hannity.com report is based on the second-hand recollections of a corporal and includes a photo of Marines standing in front of a plane labeled “Trump.” And the Trump campaign reportedly confirmed the story,

Unfortunately, the plane featured in the image wasn’t really Trump’s, as the mogul was in such dire financial straits that he sold off the plane for cash to help repay some outstanding loans.

The Post‘s Glenn Kessler concludes (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/11/too-good-to-check-sean-hannitys-tale-of-a-trump-rescue/?tid=sm_tw):

Despite the rumors on base, it’s clear that Trump had nothing to do with the dispatch of the jet to the troops stranded at Camp Lejeune.

The aircraft that ferried the troops was part of the Trump Shuttle fleet, at a time when Trump barely had control over the airline and was frantically trying to negotiate deals with bankers to prevent the collapse of his business empire.

Trump Shuttle had a contract with the military, and this flight home was part of that contract. Simple as that.

Sean Hannity needs to prominently correct this article. The Trump campaign, meanwhile, earns Four Pinocchios for confirming a story that is easily debunked.

A correction seems unlikely, as Hannity has repeatedly defended his Trump boosterism (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sean-hannity-not-a-journalist_us_570fc4f3e4b0ffa5937e6cd2) by reminding us that he is not a journalist (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/04/13/im-not-journalist-sean-hannity-attacks-critics-calling-out-his-softball-interviews-trump/209912).

http://www.mediaite.com/online/washpo-sean-hannitys-yarn-about-a-heroic-trump-is-a-complete-lie/

Splits

08-11-2016, 03:42 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpmK8bPWEAAy0pB.jpg

:lol

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 05:00 PM

From fringe to mainstream: Conspiracies, baseless accusations and lunacy is the new normal for Republicans

The GOP has no firewalls to insulate itself from its crazies and the conspiracies and dark fantasia they spin out

What these stories all have in common is that they are premised on complete and unadulterated bullshit, the kind of stuff that used to be limited to shortwave radio transmissions beamed out from trailers in the Nevada desert. Now they are the mainstream of the Republican Party.

But this is the problem with the right wing and the Republicans these days. The GOP has no discernment, no firewalls to insulate itself from its crazies and the conspiracies and dark fantasia they spin out. There is no distinction to be made between its presidential candidate, a senator who has been a sleeper darling of the Republican establishment (Bill Kirstol was Cotton’s first mentor when he arrived in Washington), and the lunatics voting for it in this election.

It is hard to see how the GOP splits, forming one right-ish party while the far-right kooks slip further out onto the fringe. The kooks are the party now. Separating them out to become a functional party capable of participating in governance may not be possible.

http://www.salon.com/2016/08/10/from-fringe-to-mainstream-conspiracies-baseless-accusations-and-lunacy-is-the-new-normal-for-republicans/

Watch 90% of Repug incumbents get re-elected. They pay no price for their destructive, sociopathic insanities.

Gerrymandered districts, redistricting means they are immune from moderates, only at risk if they are not extreme right enough.

Repug extremist SCOTUS ensured, completed the corruption of govt at all levels with C-U and gutting the VRA.

America is fucked, and unfuckable. And nobody here YET has shown any path to unfuckedness.

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 07:34 PM

http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ConfederateFlagTrump-701x511.png

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 07:35 PM

Trump’s Lawyer Is Asked About Unreleased Tax Returns, Blames Media Instead

“I personally will not allow him to release those tax returns until the audits are over,” he said.

He affirmed that he would not even release the tax returns for the years that are not presently under audit.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trumps-lawyer-is-asked-about-unreleased-tax-returns-blames-media-instead/

total Trash-y bullshit

boutons_deux

08-11-2016, 07:39 PM

Inside A Broken Nominee’s Mind: The Four Reasons Why Donald Trump Lies So Much

The four reasons why Donald Trump lies so much go to the heart of who Donald Trump really is; aka, what's wrong with Donald Trump.

1) In his mind. This is how Donald Trump sees the facts, whatever he thinks “in his mind” is real to him:

Trump said his personal math included the intangible value of publicity: The Learning Annex had advertised his speech heavily, and Trump thought that helped his brand. Therefore, in his mind he’d been paid more than $1 million, even though his actual payment was $400,000.

Trump claimed he never said Japan should have nukes, but he did.

2) If he’s wrong it’s someone else’s fault.

Even when Trump is brought round to admit he was wrong, he is never at fault for said wrong. In the deposition, he blamed Meredith McIver, the same person he just recently blamed for his wife’s speech being plagiarized, for a large, misleading mistake about his debt load in a book they “co-wrote” called “How to Get Rich.”

In some cases, Trump acknowledged he was wrong — but not that he was at fault.Instead, he sought to turn the blame on others.

We are now seeing this manifest in the holy trinity of Trump blame: Obama, Clinton, and the media. Trump blamed the media and Hillary Clinton for his own comments suggesting Hillary Clinton should be assassinated if she were to win and thus able to appoint Supreme Court justices.Trump surrogate Trump Jr claimed his father had apologized to the Kahn family, but this isn’t true and Trump is still blaming the media for reporting his attacks on the Gold Star family.

3) Trump treats his “perception” of reality as reality, without any reason for his “perception”:

LAWYER: When you wrote, “O’Brien . . . threatened sources by telling them he can, quote, ‘Settle scores with enemies by writing negative articles about them,’ ” what was the basis for that statement?

TRUMP: Just my perception of him.
I don’t know that he indicated anything like that to me, but I think he probably did indirectly. Just my dealing with him.

This is like Trump’s repeated false claim that President Obama founded ISIS. There is no factual basis for this claim, nor is there any way to make this sort of okay as conservative supporters have tried by saying the troop drawdown that happened under Obama created ISIS.

Not only was that drawdown a part of the SOFA signed by Bush before he left office, but Iraq had a say in it. And no matter what, there is an actual founder of ISIS and it wasn’t George W Bush or President Barack Obama.4) Trump claims things to be factual that he has no reason for thinking.

“What basis do you have for that statement?” Ceresney asked in one case, about an assertion from Trump that O’Brien had been reported to the police for stalking.

“I guess that was probably taken off the Internet,” Trump said.

We saw this when Trump claimed to have seen a video of a U.S. plane dropping off millions to Iran. There is no such video.

So the problem with Donald Trump isn’t even just that he lies so much the entire media can’t keep up with him, even when the task is divided.

The problem with Donald Trump is why he lies.

Donald Trump lies because he doesn’t grasp that there are rules of evidence.

Trump sees reality through the very distorted lens of his feelings and perceptions.

He doesn’t bother to check these against the facts.

Trump presents things as true and doesn’t care to learn if they are, indeed, true.

They are true because he wants them to be.This is what is wrong with Donald Trump, and it goes to his emotional challenges and mental inability to discern fact from fiction.

All of Trump that comes from Trump is grandiose wish fulfillment.

This is the sort of trait we find in tyrants.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/11/reasons-donald-trump-lies.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Trash is one sicko motherfucker (as well as wanting to fuck his daughter(s) )

Splits

08-11-2016, 09:00 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpnNQkLXYAANSxk.jpg

Splits

08-11-2016, 09:14 PM

763893353062760450

:lol that crowd
:lol all white
:lol 90% old
:lol 90% fat
:lol more non-whites in the media pen than at the entire rally
:lol white nationalists

Splits

08-11-2016, 09:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDJCe_C__ac

:lol "You love Russia"
:lol "You're Putin's bitch"

Spurminator

08-11-2016, 09:20 PM

763853008597766144

Splits

08-11-2016, 09:59 PM

Patti Davis, an actress, author and daughter of former President Ronald Reagan, penned a message to Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on Wednesday night, calling his recent comments about the Second Amendment “horrifying.”

Davis wrote in a Facebook post that her father had been shot, then went on to scold Trump and remind him that “words matter.”

“Your glib and horrifying comment about ‘Second Amendment people’ was heard around the world,” she wrote. “It was heard by sane and decent people who shudder at your fondness for verbal violence.”

“It was heard by the person sitting alone in a room, locked in his own dark fantasies, who sees unbridled violence as a way to make his mark in the world, and is just looking for ideas,” Davis added.

Saint Ronny's kids hate him too, just like every other sane person on planet Earth

Splits

08-11-2016, 10:06 PM

763877157659607040

2nd Amendment People

Reck

08-11-2016, 11:11 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpnNQkLXYAANSxk.jpg

Does Avante come around here? This is like pedo heaven right there.

DMX7

08-11-2016, 11:25 PM

Mr. Trump will also do more to protect the LGBT-Q Community than Hillary.

Reck

08-11-2016, 11:35 PM

There are rumors that the RNC is going to cut off support from Trump. They have an emergency meeting tomorrow with his campaign.

Implosion intensifies. :lol

:lol "Jesus" meeting.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/08/11/trump-rnc-plan-come-to-jesus-meeting.html

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 06:20 AM

Mr. Trump will also do more to protect the LGBT-Q Community than Hillary.

:lol holy shit. the Pres doesn't make laws and regs, esp not at municipal and state level :lol

You Trash supporters are as ignorant as Trash is.

hater

08-12-2016, 06:39 AM

Mr. Trump will also do more to protect the LGBT-Q Community than Hillary.

Already won that one by not inviting biggest lgbt mass murderers dad in history to his speeches

DMX7

08-12-2016, 06:42 AM

:lol holy shit. the Pres doesn't make laws and regs, esp not at municipal and state level :lol

You Trash supporters are as ignorant as Trash is.

The president signs laws ("the buck stops here") and influences his/her party's legislative agenda. The president can also promote a general culture of inclusiveness and acceptance.

Is this news to you? Why do you think every presidential candidate lays out legislation plans? Tax policy, trade deals, etc., etc.,... The president doesn't "make" the laws, but it still matters what he/she thinks because he/she will be guiding the legislative action of his or her party and signing laws.

DMX7

08-12-2016, 06:49 AM

Already won that one by not inviting biggest lgbt mass murderers dad in history to his speeches

Where was the media outrage? Imagine if he were at Trump's rally!!!! The LGBT----Q community will be so much better off with Mr. Trump!

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 06:51 AM

The president signs laws ("the buck stops here")

your ignorance is deeper and wider than ever.

No LGBTQ protection laws are coming out of a Congress controlled by Repugs who pander to red/slave state Christian Taliban.

DMX7

08-12-2016, 07:06 AM

your ignorance is deeper and wider than ever.

No LGBTQ protection laws are coming out of a Congress controlled by Repugs who pander to red/slave state Christian Taliban.

He only needs Paul Ryan's support (Wisconsin is not a slave state) and the support of enough republicans combined with democrats. Republicans would never listen to Hillary. GOP must change from the inside. Mr. Trump has already shown a willingness to challenge his own party's conventional beliefs such as on the appropriateness of invading Iraq and the benefits of free trade.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced the LGBT--------------------------------------------------------------------------Q community will be better off.

Oh, and just so you understand. As a senator, HRC was against legal gay marriage! What a liberal lion!!!

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 07:06 AM

Trump Now Says Claiming Obama and Clinton Were the ‘Founders of ISIS’ Was Just ‘Sarcasm’

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-now-says-claiming-obama-and-clinton-were-the-founders-of-isis-was-just-sarcasm/

DMX7

08-12-2016, 07:09 AM

Of course it was sarcasm! You people are so stupid. :lol

Killakobe81

08-12-2016, 07:09 AM

Trump congregation with so many excuses dude had some solid momentum but keeps saying dumb shit. Maybe Cubes is right ...its just a show to increase his notoriety which will help him business wise.

DMX7

08-12-2016, 07:12 AM

Trump congregation with so many excuses dude had some solid momentum but keeps saying dumb shit. Maybe Cubes is right ...its just a show to increase his notoriety which will help him business wise.

He already had close to 100% name recognition and business have probably suffered as a result of his run.

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 07:15 AM

Of course it was sarcasm! You people are so stupid. :lol

He followed up the first mention by repeating it much later. NOT sarcasm.

He meant very clearly that Hillary/Obama "founded" ISIS by botching the Repug M/E shithole by executing the REPUG agreement to withdraw from Iraq.

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 07:18 AM

Trash Says He’d Try Americans At Gitmo. Which Is Illegal.

Donald Trump (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/donald-trump/) once again threw legality into the wind, suggesting that Americans could be tried at Guantánamo Bay (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/guantanamo/) if he’s president. As the Miami Herald points out, (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/donald-trump/article95144337.html)that’s against current U.S. law.

Trump told the Herald (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/donald-trump/article95144337.html) on Thursday that it “would be fine” for military tribunals at the infamous detention center to prosecute U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism.

“I know that they want to try them in our regular court systems, and I don’t like that at all,” the GOP presidential nominee said.

You can see his full remarks in the video above.

Trump’s lack of concern for U.S. laws is well documented.

He has suggested he might pull the U.S. from NAFTA (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0ZE0Z0) and

said that’d he “open libel laws” (http://uk.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-libel-laws-sue-media-2016-2?r=US&IR=T) to make it easier (http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/donald-trump-libel-laws-219866) to sue journalists.

The GOP nominee also may have broken multiple (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/07/21/nbc-s-today-ignores-possible-lawbreaking-interview-trump-campaign-chairman/211784) federal election laws. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/01/13/bush-aligned-lawyer-donald-trumps-camp-breaking-federal-election-law/78756404/)

He’s equally unconcerned about international humanitarian laws.

Most notable are his repeated promises (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/22/politics/donald-trump-torture-brussels-abdeslam/) to bring back waterboarding, an act that is widely considered torture (http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/ted-cruz-is-wrong-waterboarding-is-considered-legal-torture-by-most/).

And, during a GOP debate earlier this year, he even vowed to use torture (https://www.thenation.com/article/exactly-what-kind-of-torture-does-donald-trump-want-to-use/) “a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.”

Trump’s also pledged (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-families-terrorists_us_565ef81ae4b072e9d1c41f99) to “take out” the families of suspects ― regardless of their involvement in or knowledge of terror attack plans.

President Barack Obama (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/barack-obama/) has acknowledged (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/01/obama-cia-torture-some-folks-brennan-spying) that the CIA “tortured some folks” in the years after the 9/11 attacks.

But he’s said the so-called “enhanced interrogation techniques” the U.S. used to get information from terrorist suspects “was a mistake” that “crossed the line.”

Editor’s note:

Donald Trump regularly incites political violence (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-violence_us_56e1f16fe4b0b25c91815913)

and is a serial liar (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-911_565b1950e4b08e945feb7326),

rampant xenophobe (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/9-outrageous-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-latinos_55e483a1e4b0c818f618904b),

racist (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83),

misogynist (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_us_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023) and

birther (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-stephen-colbert-birther_56022a33e4b00310edf92f7a)

who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims ― 1.6 billion members of an entire religion ― from entering the U.S.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-gitmo_us_57ad7775e4b071840410c1d6?section=&&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Morning%20Email%20081216&utm_content=The%20Morning%20Email%20081216+CID_f4a ba3c1666e611e426985f7274a4e26&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=Alana%20Horowitz%20Satlin%20HuffPost

DMX7

08-12-2016, 07:20 AM

He followed up the first mention by repeating it much later. NOT sarcasm.

He meant very clearly that Hillary/Obama "founded" ISIS by botching the Repug M/E shithole by executing the REPUG agreement to withdraw from Iraq.

Yes, which is why the "founding" claim was sarcasm and not a literal assertion.

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 07:21 AM

Yes, which is why the "founding" claim was sarcasm and not a literal assertion.

Not sarcasm. You Trash fellators are an ignorant, stupid bunch.

DarrinS

08-12-2016, 08:13 AM

I love that this is being fact checked

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/11/donald-trump/donald-trump-pants-fire-claim-obama-founded-isis-c/

:lol

DarrinS

08-12-2016, 08:21 AM

Lol, CNN

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/291139-cnn-fact-checks-trumps-isis-claim-on-screen

hitmanyr2k

08-12-2016, 08:40 AM

Not sarcasm. You Trash fellators are an ignorant, stupid bunch.

Trump likes to stir up headlines so he can feign ignorance when it blows up. He knows what he's doing but I don't see how this helps his campaign at all. It helped him in the primaries because let's face it, his base are a bunch of mouth-breathers that fall for that shit. In the general election it's just another waste of a day where he's not making up any ground and instead digging himself a bigger hole with the undecided voters.

hater

08-12-2016, 08:41 AM

Lol, CNN

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/291139-cnn-fact-checks-trumps-isis-claim-on-screen

:lmao CNN CIA mouthpiece

I'm glad Trump is going in that ass

Truth is Obama founded ISIS by allowing Mcain and other jyts to go to Syria and personally dliver weapons and $ to Al Bigdaddy. Obama was the boss's so if the boss allows it to happen, its on the boss.

Same thing what happened with Bin Laden being killed. Obama toom the credit didn't he?

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 09:48 AM

He already had close to 100% name recognition and business have probably suffered as a result of his run.

:lol NEGATIVE name recognition, aka he's NOTORIOUS for lying, race-baiting, xenophobia, etc, etc.

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 09:53 AM

The true founder of ISIS

No matter how you feel about politics, there has been no evidence to suggest that Obama literally created ISIS.

"I would say it's another unsupportable conspiracy theory," John Limbert, an international affairs professor and former State Department counterterrorism official, told Politifact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/15/donald-trump/donald-trump-suggests-barack-obama-supported-isis-/) last month when Trump floated the concept that the president supported Al Qaeda and ISIS.

Politifact rated the claim to be a "Pants on Fire" lie.

ISIS's generally recognized creator was a Jordanian man named Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who started a group named Al Qaeda in Iraq in 2004 after leaving prison.

He pledged loyalty to Osama bin Laden and wanted "to foment a civil war" by targeting Shiite Muslims, "causing them to retaliate against Sunnis, who would then have no choice but to turn to jihadists for protection," PBS reported (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/who-was-the-founder-of-isis/).

Zarqawi was killed in an airstrike in 2006, but his ideas had taken hold. His successor, Abu Ayub al-Masri, changed Zarqawi's organization's name to the Islamic State of Iraq later that year. Masri also put Abu Umar al-Baghdadi in charge.

A raid left both men dead in 2010, and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the current leader of ISIS, took over, according to Stanford University's Mapping Militant Organizations project (http://web.stanford.edu/group/mappingmilitants/cgi-bin/groups/view/1).

While ISIS was forming overseas, Obama was busy campaigning for and eventually being elected to the presidency. In 2014, he announced the U.S. was putting together an anti-ISIS coalition to conduct airstrikes on the extremist group.

"Our objective is clear: We will degrade, and ultimately destroy, ISIL through a comprehensive and sustained counterterrorism strategy," Obama said at the time (http://www.state.gov/s/seci/).

The Pentagon has said (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/10/12/islamic-state-pentagon/73840116/) its airstrikes have taken out more than 20,000 ISIS supporters.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/the-true-founder-of-isis/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi/AQI arose directly from the dubya/dickhead/neocon Repug destruction of Iraq for BigOil

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 10:11 AM

The LGBT----Q community will be so much better off with Mr. Trump!

Donald Trump To Address Extremist Anti-LGBT Summit In Orlando

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is scheduled to attend a radical anti-LGBT event in being held in Orlando this week exactly two months after the Pulse nightclub shooting,

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and a host of anti-LGBT extremists (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/marco-rubio-defends-radical-anti-lgbt-orlando-event) are slated to address the “Rediscovering God in America” event,

Lane, a vocal opponent of LGBT equality (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/meet-david-lane-anti-gay-christian-nation-extremist-rnc), has said that “homosexuals praying at the Inauguration” in 2012 would cause “car bombs in Los Angeles, Washington D.C. and Des Moines, Iowa (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/david-lane-predicts-car-bombings-la-dc-and-des-moines-over-gay-inauguration-prayers)” as a sign of God’s judgment and that the “pagan onslaught (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/republican-presidential-hopefuls-favorite-christian-nation-extremist)” of the LGBT rights movement will lead to the destruction (http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/indecency-sin-and-todays-whig-party/)of (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/meet-david-lane-anti-gay-christian-nation-extremist-rnc)America (http://www.westernjournalism.com/normalizing-sin-and-the-decadent-society/#A0Ge3SjkSUTlkeUU.97).

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/donald-trump-address-extremist-anti-lgbt-summit-orlando?utm_medium=email&utm_source=botb&utm_campaign=rightwingwatch

:lol Your boy Trash PANDERING to Christian Taliban LGBTQ HATERS :lol

DMX7

08-12-2016, 10:26 AM

You're reaching!!!:lol

Trump loves the LGBT----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Q community.

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 10:36 AM

Trash speaks to LGBTQ EXTREMIST HATE GROUPS, stupid.

And even if he wanted LGBTQ protections passed (next step would be Fed Equal Opportunity job protection), the Repug Congress would NEVER pass it, or even bring it up for a vote.

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 11:04 AM

TRUMP SAYS HE WOULD ONLY USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN A SARCASTIC WAY

NEW YORK — Clarifying his position on a key national-security issue, Donald Trump said on Friday that as President he would be willing to use nuclear weapons “but only in a sarcastic way.”

“People who are worried about me having the nuclear launch codes should stop worrying, O.K.?” Trump told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.

“If I ever used nuclear weapons it would be really obvious that I was just being sarcastic.”

Pressed by Blitzer to explain the

difference between a sarcastic and non-sarcastic nuclear attack,

Trump responded,

“You’d use the weapons and everything, but then you’d say, ‘Just kidding.’”

Trump did not specify which nations he would target for a sarcastic nuclear attack. “I can’t say right now,” he said. “But there are a lot of countries that need to lighten up.”

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-would-only-use-nuclear-weapons-in-a-sarcastic-way (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-would-only-use-nuclear-weapons-in-a-sarcastic-way)

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 11:10 AM

Donald Trump is only looking out for himself and his billionaire friends? Not surprised.

Why would we even expect Donald to come up with a serious plan to fix a rigged economy? He's the one who rigged it.

Donald says he will "fix" trade – he can start by shutting down his own sweatshops in Bangladesh and pay workers in the U.S. a living wage.

(Wanna know why Trump believes wages are too high in the U.S.? He is used to paying 30 cents an hour in low-wage countries abroad.)

He's the poster child of failed trade policies:

❌ Trump clothing made in Mexico
❌ Trump ties made in China
❌ Trump shirts made in Bangladesh
❌ Trump furniture made in Turkey and Germany
❌ Trump picture frames made in India
❌ Trump barware made in Slovenia

Wanna know how serious Donald is about fixing the trade problem?

From Trump University:  "Outsourcing Creates Jobs in the Long Run." 

Meanwhile, Trump is proposing huge tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires while gutting the Department of Education and the EPA.

Trump's plan to repeal the estate tax alone would give a $269 billion tax break over a 10-year period to the top two-tenths of 1 percent.

In total, Trump wants to provide a $3 trillion tax cut to Americans who make over $1 million a year.

https://www.facebook.com/berniesanders/?fref=nf

aka, Trash running a "populist" campaign, but in fact his policies are absolutely standard Repug establishment, anti-99% policies.

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 11:33 AM

Mentally Unbalanced Man Still Waiting For The Right Trump Comment To Incite Him

http://i.onionstatic.com/onion/5406/5/16x9/1200.jpg

HARRISBURG, PA—Explaining that the candidate’s recent inflammatory statements had further stoked his uncontrollable fury but hadn’t quite pushed him over the edge, local resident and mentally unhinged man Peter Scheft told reporters Friday he is still waiting for the exact right comment from Trump that will incite him to action.

“Donald Trump has definitely said a lot of things that have reinforced my paranoid worldview, but I still haven’t heard that one key phrase that I know will really set me off,” said the psychologically disturbed 45-year-old, who noted that Trump’s remarks over the past 12 months, while increasingly vitriolic and incendiary, have not yet been worded in such a way that speaks directly to his delusional beliefs and spurs him to act on his manic, deep-seated rage.

“It might not be tomorrow, or next week, or maybe not even until the debates, but sooner or later Trump is going to utter a perfectly phrased comment that provokes a major reaction from me.

It could be a statement comparing all refugees to the 9/11 hijackers, or one that

describes liberal judges as enemies of the Constitution bent on removing all our freedoms—

regardless, I have complete confidence that between now and Election Day, something he says will just click and set me on an irreversible course of action.”

The deeply troubled individual added that if Trump were to ever direct a bitter comment toward women who use Planned Parenthood services, that might be just the ticket.

http://www.theonion.com/article/mentally-unbalanced-man-still-waiting-right-trump--53506 (http://www.theonion.com/article/mentally-unbalanced-man-still-waiting-right-trump--53506)

Reck

08-12-2016, 11:41 AM

Is this his new schtick?

Is he going to say he was being sarcastic for every retarded shit he's ever said?

Spurminator

08-12-2016, 11:43 AM

"I like him cause he says what he means."

InRareForm

08-12-2016, 12:04 PM

Trump a True clown.

Splits

08-12-2016, 12:39 PM

"I like him cause he says what he means."

:lol

:cry he tells it like it is :cry
:cry he's not politically correct :cry

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 12:50 PM

Trump makes play for evangelicals by noting his problems in Mormon-rich Utah

Trump tried to draw a direct distinction between himself and Mitt Romney, the party’s 2012 nominee, who would have become the nation’s first Mormon president.

Echoing some post-2012 analysis suggesting that Romney’s religion led some evangelicals to stay home, Trump said “religion didn’t get out and vote” for the former governor, “whatever the reason.”

Here in Orlando, he spoke to leaders of evangelical Christian groups, some of whom have privately expressed skepticism about Mormons.

Trump stressed his difficulties in the country’s only majority-Mormon state — making an apparent play for support by noting that he has a “tremendous problem” in Utah.

Recent polls have shown Clinton within striking distance of Trump in Utah.

Trump’s brash style appears to have turned off much of the state’s large Mormon population, as it did during the GOP primary campaign.

Trump lost badly to Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.) in Utah’s Republican caucuses. :lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-makes-play-for-evangelicals-by-noting-his-problems-in-mormon-rich-utah/2016/08/11/39afcb58-5fe2-11e6-9d2f-b1a3564181a1_story.html?tid=hybrid_experimentrando m_3_na

Utah for Krazy Kruz! :lol

Pelicans78

08-12-2016, 01:00 PM

And Trump is wrong again. Evangelicals came out and voted for Romney. That's not why Romney lost.

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 01:29 PM

the numbers keep increasing, with many weeks remaining

70 Top Republicans Call on the RNC to Dump Trump: His 'Chances of Being Elected President Are Evaporating by the Day'

Dozens of former GOP governors, senators, congressmen and RNC staffers urge Reince Priebus to cut off Trump's funds.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/70-top-republicans-call-rnc-dump-trump-his-chances-being-elected-president-are

Will RNC comply? Rinse Priapism is particularly dickless, as Repug establishment dicklessness goes.

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 03:57 PM

Trump backs away from labeling Obama founder of Islamic State

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Friday backed away from repeated remarks labeling President Barack Obama and Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton as the founders of Islamic State, saying they were sarcasm.

A new opinion poll showed Trump losing ground in three crucial states.

Trump used the unfounded description of Clinton and Obama on Wednesday night and all day on Thursday during campaign appearances in Florida, including in an interview on Thursday with radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt.

"I meant he’s (Obama) the founder of ISIS. I do. He was the most valuable player," Trump said, using an acronym for the militant Islamist group, adding that Clinton also deserved the MVP award.

But in a tweet on Friday, he called the comments sarcasm.

It was the same tactic he used to try to quell criticism after he invited Russia in late July to dig up tens of thousands of "missing" emails from Clinton's time as U.S. secretary of state.

He tweeted, "Ratings challenged @CNN reports so seriously that I call President Obama (and Clinton) 'the founder' of ISIS, & MVP. THEY DON'T GET SARCASM?"

Trump's accusation against Obama and Clinton went well beyond a charge made in the past by him and other Republicans: that the president and former secretary of state helped create the conditions for the rise of Islamic State by withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq in 2011.

But a Wall Street Journal/NBC News/Marist poll released on Friday suggested support for Trump is eroding among voters in three battleground states.

Such states are hotly contested because their populations can swing either to Republicans or Democrats and thus play a decisive role in presidential elections.

The poll found Clinton widening her lead in Colorado, Virginia and North Carolina, while holding her advantage over Trump in Florida.

Clinton released her tax returns on Friday, painting the move as a sign of transparency that her campaign says Trump lacks.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN10N1V0?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 03:59 PM

Happy Birthday Social Security -- Let's Remember That Mike Pence Was A Cheerleader For The Program's Destruction

As early as 2002 (https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2002/3/6/house-section/article/h725-1?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22%5C%22mike+pence%5C%22 %22%2C%22Social+Security%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=6), Pence spoke in the House of Representatives in favor of privatization. In 2005, after President Bush proposed reforms, he delivered (https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2005/2/9/house-section/article/h418-2?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22%5C%22mike+pence%5C%22 %22%2C%22Social+Security%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=2) speech (https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2005/6/22/house-section/article/h4902-3?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22%5C%22mike+pence%5C%22 %22%2C%22Social+Security%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=1)after (https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2005/6/23/house-section/article/h4989-5?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22%5C%22mike+pence%5C%22 %22%2C%22Social+Security%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=3) speech (https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2005/5/11/house-section/article/h3118-4?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22%5C%22mike+pence%5C%22 %22%2C%22Social+Security%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=4) in (https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2005/5/17/house-section/article/h3336-1?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22%5C%22mike+pence%5C%22 %22%2C%22Social+Security%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=5) favor (https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2002/3/6/house-section/article/h725-1?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22%5C%22mike+pence%5C%22 %22%2C%22Social+Security%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=6) of the proposal. He claimed at the time (https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2005/5/11/house-section/article/h3118-4?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22%5C%22mike+pence%5C%22 %22%2C%22Social+Security%22%5D%7D&resultIndex=4), “Social Security reform means keeping its promise in tact for seniors and all who choose to remain in the system. But Social Security reform also means offering a better deal to younger Americans in the form of voluntary personal accounts.”

A consistent theme of Pence’s was that privatization and other reforms would save the program from insolvency and protect seniors from future cuts. This was not true.

According to an analysis at the time from the Center for American Progress (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2005/05/05/1462/primer-on-president-bushs-plan-for-social-security-privatization/), such reforms would actually “worsen Social Security’s financial outlook. In addition:

Bush Would Address Solvency Solely by Cutting Benefits.
Benefit Cuts Would Come Through a Change in the Benefit Formula.
Bush’s Benefit Cuts Would Affect 70 Percent of All Taxpayers.
More Benefit Cuts Down the Road under Bush’s Plan.

Furthermore, Bush’s privatization plan would have added “trillions of dollars” to the deficit, while only providing “limited” investment choices for seniors. Yet Pence enthusiastically supported this policy.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/happy-birthday-social-security-lets-remember-mike-pence-was-cheerleader-programs-destruction

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 04:01 PM

Trump Blows A Gasket Changes His Mind And Claims Obama Really Did Found ISIS

Donald Trump has blown up in Pennsylvania and changed his mind by claiming that he isn't being sarcastic. Obama really did found ISIS.

When I said that Obama, and of course, I’m being sarcastic.

They know that, because after I said that, I said he’s the MVP, he is going to collect his MVP award.

So I said Obama is the founder of ISIS, the founder, and these dishonest media people they say did he mean that, and after that, I’d say a lot, in fact, they like him so much because he’s been so week and so bad.

I mean, he let this happen.

They had eight states.

They had eight countries.

They’re now in twenty-eight countries.

They’re expanding.

So I said the founder of ISIS. Obviously, I was being sarcastic, then, then but not that sarcastic to be honest with you.

Trump then went on a rant about the media being the lowest form of humanity.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/12/trump-blows-gasket-mind-claims-obama-isis.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Trash! :lol

Trash supporters! :lol

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 04:29 PM

Trash's people, ALL CLASS

Trump co-chair smears Khan Gold Star parents with a vicious lie: They support ‘ISIS-type’ groups
Carl Paladino is a proud co-chair of the Donald Trump campaign in New York and he’s frustrated at the bum rap his candidate is getting over the Khan family scandal.

Trump surrogates and spokespeople have tried to move forward, but moments like Paladino’s keep popping up. Paladino’s son died in Iraq in 2004 but he has little sympathy for the Khan family, claiming Mr. Khan doesn’t deserve the title of a Gold Star parent. He explained that Khan is “anti-American” and alleged he is supportive of “the ISIS-type of attitude against America.”

“We’ve got an un-indicted felon as his opponent and you’re talking about Khan, about him making a remark about this man,” Paladino told Imus in the Morning.

“All right, I don’t care if he’s a Gold Star parent.

He certainly doesn’t deserve that title, OK, if he’s as anti-American as he’s illustrated in his speeches and in his discussion.

I mean, if he’s a member of the Muslim Brotherhood or supporting, you know, the ISIS-type of attitude against America, there’s no reason for Donald Trump to have to honor this man.”

He continued the conversation by pushing internet conspiracy rumors about Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton’s health that have been debunked (http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-medical-records-leaked/) and that President Barack Obama is a secret Muslim, which has also been debunked (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/aug/26/18-percent-american-public/obama-muslim-no-hes-not-evidence-has-not-changed/).

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/trump-co-chair-smears-khan-gold-star-parents-with-a-vicious-lie-they-support-isis-type-groups/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Paladino? google him to see what a shitbag he is. He will turn NY totally Repug all by himself

Dirk Oneanddoneski

08-12-2016, 09:17 PM

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 10:07 PM

Trump Has Gone So Crazy That His Own Campaign Has No Idea What He’s Talking About

Donald Trump has gone so crazy that even his own campaign can’t explain what he is talking about.

Trump spokesperson Katrina Pierson aimlessly flailed around an MSNBC interview when she was asked if Trump was being sarcastic when he said that Obama founded ISIS.

Kristen Welker asked Trump spokesperson Katrina Pierson if Trump was being sarcastic about Obama founding ISIS.Her answer was, “Yes and no.”

Pierson tried to compare Trump’s comments to Clinton joking that she knew so little about computers that she thought you wiped a hard drive with a cloth.

Welker zoomed right back in, “Katrina, I’m going to stop you. The answer can’t be both yes and no.”

Pierson said that Trump was being sarcastic, but he was being very serious when he talked about what happened and why ISIS was here today.

Welker brought up Trump telling Hugh Hewitt that he was being literal.

Pierson tried to spin, but it was obvious that she was making up her own interpretation of what Trump meant as the interview went along.Donald Trump has gone so far down the rabbit hole that his own campaign has no idea what he is talking about.

Here is how the latest Trump mess has gone down:

1). Trump claimed Obama founded ISIS.

2). Trump said he was only being sarcastic.

3). Later the same day, Trump reverses himself and claims that he really wasn’t being sarcastic.

Donald Trump’s own campaign can’t explain their candidate’s out of control behavior.

Trump has gone far off the rails that there is no clean up possible.

What we are witnessing is a candidate who is so uncontrollable that he has gone rogue on his own campaign.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/12/trump-crazy-campaign-idea-talking.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux

08-12-2016, 10:20 PM

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13901511_1046753968712782_5360366900648874262_n.jp g?oh=0c826a2be2d1bccfd73931ad1311714c&oe=5811D42A

ducks

08-12-2016, 10:46 PM

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13891805_10157484572565725_1562794665721004572_n.j pg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=cded1f9dcaf590cd0debda29124b5b24&oe=581ED364
Another pack house

baseline bum

08-12-2016, 11:00 PM

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13891805_10157484572565725_1562794665721004572_n.j pg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=cded1f9dcaf590cd0debda29124b5b24&oe=581ED364
Another pack house

ducks, are you as confident in Trump as you were that Darko would be better than LeBron?

ducks

08-12-2016, 11:05 PM

If trump does the debates he will beat her
Clinton is by far the worse of the two

ducks

08-12-2016, 11:09 PM

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13891836_10157480048730725_6925358639049806387_n.j pg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=788daa7864c2dcbc10453b6660dd8457&oe=58199E1E

One person there in Florida was surprised how many blacks Nan's Hispanics were at trumps rally

hater

08-12-2016, 11:14 PM

If trump does the debates he will beat her
Clinton is by far the worse of the two

Ma nigga ducks with da goods. I called it first dough nigga

I called it first

ducks

08-13-2016, 12:46 AM

Today was rally in pa
FULL Event: Donald Trump Holds HUGE Rally in Erie, PA 8/12/16
Right Side Broadcasting 93,624 views
3K475

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp6E9tdYkeI&feature=youtu.be&t=3328

Splits

08-13-2016, 03:12 AM

Ma nigga ducks with da goods. I called it first dough nigga

I called it first

If you're so confident take the bet, pussy.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up with your "calls".

boutons_deux

08-13-2016, 06:08 AM

boutons_deux

08-13-2016, 09:24 AM

An Even Stranger Donald Trump

Donald Trump’s rallies once drew their share of benign conservatives, offbeat libertarians and plain curiosity seekers.

But as time and Mr. Trump’s act have worn on, many of them have no doubt gone the way of his poll numbers. Mr. Trump’s crowds remain big and loud, but they’re angrier and more malevolent, and so is Mr. Trump.

By referring to the president by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama, he continues to wink at some of his staunchest supporters:

conspiracy theorists obsessed with the false claim that Mr. Obama is a secret Muslim.

The trolls and websites that advance racist theories have supplied Mr. Trump with talking points for years. He consulted with (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/03/us/politics/donald-trump-birther-obama.html) one of them in 2011, when he launched his “birther” campaign, falsely claiming that Mr. Obama was born outside the United States.

Sure enough, Mr. Trump’s Twitter legions took up the call. Tweeted one: “Barack Hussein Obama is the Founder of ISIS! America’s Islamist-in-Chief, America’s Muslim-in-Charge. An ongoing disaster threatening World!”

One whose Twitter avatar is the muzzle of a revolver wrote, “So Why Can’t Barack Hussein Obama Admit #ISIS (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISIS?src=hash) Beheaded Christians?”

When Mr. Trump fans racist rage against the president,

suggests that gun owners take up arms against Mrs. Clinton, or

speaks darkly of a “rigged” election,

he is not trying to woo Republican skeptics, independents or undecided voters.

He is appealing to the mob.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/12/opinion/an-even-stranger-donald-trump.html

boutons_deux

08-13-2016, 10:24 AM

Pieces of Silver

By now, it’s obvious to everyone with open eyes that Donald Trump is an ignorant, wildly dishonest, erratic, immature, bullying egomaniac.

On the other hand, he’s a terrible person.

But despite some high-profile defections, most senior figures in the Republican Party — very much including Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House, and Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader — are still supporting him, threats of violence and all.

Why?

there’s a third answer, which can be summarized in one number: 34.

What’s that? It’s the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the average federal tax rate (https://www.cbo.gov/publication/51361) for the top 1 percent in 2013, the latest year available.

And it’s up from just 28.2 in 2008, because President Obama allowed the high-end Bush tax cuts to expire and imposed new taxes to pay for a dramatic expansion of health coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

Taxes on the really, really rich have gone up even more.

If Hillary Clinton wins, taxes on the elite will at minimum stay at this level, and may even go up significantly if Democrats do well enough in congressional races to enable her to pass new legislation. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center estimates (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/sites/default/files/alfresco/publication-pdfs/2000638-an-analysis-of-hillary-clintons-tax-proposals.pdf) that her tax plan would raise the average tax rate for the top 1 percent by another 3.4 percentage points, and the rate for the top 0.1 percent by five points.

But if “populist” Donald Trump wins, taxes on the wealthy will go way down; in particular, Mr. Trump is calling for elimination of the inheritance tax, which these days hits only a tiny number of really yuuuge estates (a married couple doesn’t pay any tax unless its estate is worth more than $10.9 million (https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/estate-tax)).

So if you’re wealthy, or you’re someone who has built a career by reliably serving the interests of the wealthy, the choice is clear

— as long as you don’t care too much about stuff like

shunning racism,

preserving democracy and

freedom of religion, or

for that matter avoiding nuclear war,

Mr. Trump is your guy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/12/opinion/pieces-of-silver.html

ducks

08-13-2016, 10:27 AM

Yep people who have money need to pay more taxes and workers more or what now they are broke So they layoff workers or go to Mexico

djohn2oo8

08-13-2016, 11:17 AM

If trump does the debates he will beat her
Clinton is by far the worse of the two
No Trump is a shit debater. He let Megyn Kelly get in his head...Besides, he's not winning the minority vote.

Splits

08-13-2016, 12:29 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMIKzUAY8n4

hater

08-13-2016, 12:36 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMIKzUAY8n4

And shillary failed at basic math. "you have 1 ambassador and you get him killed. How many ambassadors you have left"

:lol

Splits

08-13-2016, 05:01 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MubunsD-7g

Splits

08-13-2016, 07:18 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpqjJMdWcAAYc7U.jpg

Splits

08-14-2016, 07:10 AM

Once in control of their party, conservatives agonize over the election and beyond

DENVER — Glenn Beck had traveled across the country to stop Donald Trump from winning the Republican nomination. He didn’t succeed.

Pacing the stage here at the RedState Gathering, a conference for conservative activists being held this weekend, Beck acknowledged that many Republicans would vote for Trump to stop Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency.

He wouldn’t.

“I know, as a recovering alcoholic, that the truth will set you free,” Beck said Friday. “This election is between two choices that suck.”

Hundreds of conservative activists and bloggers cheered. None of them booed. With fewer than 90 days to go before the election, an annual event that usually revs up Republicans had become a therapy session on the agony of 2016.

Trump was not invited; the highest-profile speakers, such as Beck and Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), were adamantly anti-Trump. Attendees debated whether the election was still winnable, whether the Republican Party was fixable, and who was to blame for a looming Clinton victory.

In their darkest moments, they couldn’t imagine how the infighting would end.

“If Trump loses, the Republican National Committee will realize that this situation’s got to change,” said Leon Wolf, the editor of the RedState website that gives the conference its name. “But 40 percent of their party enthusiastically supported this guy. How far do they dare to go in alienating these people?”

At the same time, RedState’s editors and users tried to police the conservative movement. In 2007, the site blocked a wave of “zany” new users who were using the site to promote the Ron Paul presidential campaign. In 2015, the site’s longtime editor, Erick Erickson, disinvited Trump from the Gathering, citing the candidate’s comment that Fox News debate co-moderator Megyn Kelly had “blood coming out of her wherever” when she grilled him during a Republican debate.

“I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal,” Erickson said.

The reporters who had packed last year’s conference wondered whether the comment about Kelly would be a pivot moment, a sign that Republican voters were abandoning Trump. It was not. In the year since, Trump had taken over the Republican Party, while RedState editors such as Wolf and Ben Howe achieved sudden cable news fame as Trump critics; Erickson founded a new site critical of Trump and briefly tried to draft a third-party conservative candidate into the race. RedState’s traffic was up for the year, but its leading voices were constantly being reminded of where the power was in the GOP.

For rank-and-file conservatives, the question was to join a rebellion or to join a possibly losing campaign for the White House. “I’m playing for the team,” said Alex Iscoe, 21, an activist who wore the lone “Make America Great Again” cap at the conference. “If the team doesn’t win, we get four more years of Obama, basically — or worse.”

All weekend, the fact that the presidential election was between Trump and Clinton hung in the air like a foul odor. The conference was sponsored by a constellation of groups, such as the Charles Koch Institute and the millennial-focused Generation Opportunity, which had long ago switched from electioneering to advocating for free-market reform. In a glitchy series of pre*recorded videos, House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) pivoted from a question about 2016 to a question about what he had learned from his 2012 vice-presidential run.

“The single greatest threat to national security is sitting in the Oval Office,” John Bolton, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said at the end of a long indictment of the Obama administration’s foreign policy. “The second-greatest threat is coming right behind him, unless things change dramatically.”

Darryl Glenn, the Republican who is seeking to unseat Sen. Michael F. Bennet (D-Colo.) in November, blamed the news media for the idea that “everything’s negative out there.” After Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) equivocated on whether Trump could win the state — the real estate mogul trails by double digits — an audience member excitedly grabbed a microphone to remind him that “they said you couldn’t win your race, either.”

Few of the conservatives who had come to Denver were so optimistic. Steve Deace, an influential Iowa radio host who had endorsed Cruz for president, predicted that Trump would lose and then stick around to continue hurting the conservative movement.

“He’s going to get months of free media when he loses,” Deace said. “He will not go away.” Deace argued that Trump will have to kiss up to the “liberal elites whose approval he craves, and he will do it by attacking all of us.”

Cruz did not attend the conference, telling organizers that he previously committed to a family vacation. But the 45-year-old senator’s political future was never far from the RedState discussion. Asked about Cruz’s speech at the Republican National Convention, at which he was heckled for refusing to endorse Trump, Beck said he had called to thank him for doing it. Cruz, he said, had acted in the tradition of Charles Sumner, the anti-slavery senator beaten with a cane by pro-slavery Democrats, and Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the German pastor who returned home from America to oppose the Nazis.

Kendal Unruh was more pessimistic. Elected as a Cruz delegate from Colorado, she had led an effort — “Free the Delegates” — to stop Trump at the convention.

“I don’t see myself spending the next 30 years to rebuild the party,” she said. “I know that Cruz is gearing up Carly Fiorina to run for party chair. That’s a brilliant move. But in order to that, you have to roll all those RNC members, and we’ve seen how that goes.”

Fiorina made it to Denver, introduced wryly as “that face” — a reference to how Trump had once mocked her looks. In a 30-minute speech, she promised to campaign “for down-ballot candidates” and avoided mentioning the nominee.

Not every conservative would allow himself to think that way.

“I’m a conservative before I’m a Republican,” said Matt Schlapp, the chairman of the American Conservative Union. “It’s our philosophy that guides us, not the elephant. I’m happy to help the elephant when he’s right; I’m happy to pick up his poop when he’s got problems in the middle of the street. All of that stuff — I’ve signed up for that.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/once-in-control-of-their-party-conservatives-agonize-over-the-election-and-beyond/2016/08/13/e2655710-6157-11e6-8e45-477372e89d78_story.html

Fabbs

08-14-2016, 10:06 AM

Trump trolling the oven dodger media
....This is a clever way...... In other words, it is brilliant media manipulation, and it worked.

...Trump does something brilliant. ....Trump’s clever persuasion is crystal-clear to anyone who thinks Trump is smart.....Total success. Brilliant technique.

...Trump was brilliant.

(Trump is smart, the media is gullible) an incredible thing to behold.

I think this story will end up in psychology textbooks.
It already has.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/psychobabble-richard-l-ganz/1111013664/2674666156388?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+Professional_0000 0000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP4747&k_clickid=3x4747

baseline bum

08-14-2016, 01:13 PM

Yep people who have money need to pay more taxes and workers more or what now they are broke So they layoff workers or go to Mexico

ducks, are you as confident in Trump as you were that Darko would be better than LeBron?

boutons_deux

08-14-2016, 03:12 PM

How Donald Trump’s bizarre voter-watch effort could get the GOP in trouble

After telling an audience in Altoona, Pa., that he would seek their help in policing the polls in November to root out voter fraud — something that even the state of Pennsylvania has noted (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/12/donald-trump-says-hell-only-lose-pennsylvania-where-hes-down-9-points-is-if-cheating-goes-on/?postshare=4051471094897387&tid=ss_tw-bottom) doesn't exist in any meaningful way — Donald Trump's campaign nationalized the effort on Saturday morning.

Now eager Trump backers can go to Trump's website (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/lp/volunteer-to-be-a-trump-election-observer) and sign up to be "a Trump Election Observer." Do so, and you get an email thanking you for volunteering and assuring you that the campaign will "do everything we are legally allowed to do to stop crooked Hillary from rigging this election."

There are any number of problems with this, again starting with the fact that the frequency of in-person voter fraud in elections is lower (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/03/heres-how-rare-in-person-voter-fraud-is/) than getting five numbers right in the Powerball. But there's a potentially bigger legal problem noted by (http://electionlawblog.org/?p=85289) election law expert Rick Hasen of the University of California at Irvine:

Trump's unnecessary effort could be violating a prohibition against voter intimidation that applies to the Republican Party.

Trump in Altoona:

"We have to call up law enforcement.

And we have to have the sheriffs and the police chiefs and everybody watching. ...

The only way they can beat it in my opinion — and I mean this 100 percent — if in certain sections of the state they cheat, okay?")

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/13/how-donald-trumps-bizarre-voter-watch-effort-could-get-the-gop-in-trouble/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

This absolutely standard Repug strategy of LYING: saying in-person voter fraud is a huge problem for the sanctity of democracy.

boutons_deux

08-14-2016, 03:17 PM

No electricity and bouncing paychecks: What it was like to work for Trump Magazine

a former employee for Trump Magazinedocuments a cash-strapped and dysfunctional company where paychecks bounced, the power was shut off due to unpaid bills and important health insurance was cancelled — after a cancer diagnosis.

One might call it a preview of Trump’s America.

According to Carey Purcell, she took a position as a receptionist with Trump Magazine — originally called Trump World — in 2006 when it was under the direction of publisher Michael Jacobson,

Trump himself was paid a licensing fee of $120,000 per issue as of 2005,

which was increased to $135,000 per issue in 2006.

His hands-on involvement — outside of using the magazine to promote his name, his ventures and his family — was to sign off on each issue, making notes on proofs with a Sharpie and ensuring that he and his family looked good inside the magazine.

According to the magazine’s former creative director, the rest of every issue was filled with “wealth porn.”

Purcell notes that four months into her $25,000-a-year job answering phones and opening mail, her first paycheck bounced.

“The first time it happened, it seemed like an accident, or maybe an oversight. The office accountant quickly issued a new payment and covered the fee for the check bouncing,” she wrote. “But then it happened again. And this time, the company didn’t reissue a check.

Instead, I was handed a brown paper bag filled with hundred-dollar bills to cover for the company’s lack of payroll funds.”

She points out that the inner workings of the magazine was a mess with “no company-wide database for subscriptions; all the information was stored in Excel spreadsheets that were emailed back and forth,” odd and extravagant expenses charged to the magazine, and a publisher who increasingly disappeared for days at a time.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/no-electricity-and-bouncing-paychecks-what-it-was-like-to-work-for-trump-magazine/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Trash is a grifring piece of shit.

boutons_deux

08-14-2016, 03:23 PM

Fox propaganda bimbo confirms that Trash has no self-control

Kimberly Guilfoyle Accuses Obama and Clinton of Baiting Trump Into Saying Stupid Things

"And what you've seen is a concerted effort, really -- it's like the most unholy partnership of all time between the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton, constantly making comments trying to bait Trump into saying something that will sidetrack him"

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/13/kimberly-guilfoyle-accuses-obama-clinton-baiting-trump-stupid.html

:lol

Splits

08-14-2016, 03:24 PM

ducks, are you as confident in Trump as you were that Darko would be better than LeBron?

:lol

boutons_deux

08-14-2016, 03:29 PM

Donald Trump's spokeswoman Katrina Pierson says (incorrectly) that it was Obama who 'went into Afghanistan'

Donald Trump's spokeswoman leveled false accusations against President Obama on Saturday, saying he started the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan.

When asked on CNN about Trump saying Obama was the "founder" (http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-trump-calls-obama-the-founder-of-1470914177-htmlstory.html) of Islamic State, spokeswoman Katrina Pierson delivered a lengthy response in which she proclaimed it was Obama who "went into Afghanistan," where U.S. troops had begun fighting in 2001 under former President George W. Bush.

"Remember, we weren’t even in Afghanistan by this time," she said of Obama taking office in 2009. "Barack Obama went into Afghanistan creating another problem."

The visibly surprised CNN anchor pressed Pierson to confirm that she was saying that Obama took the country into Afghanistan.

"What I'm saying is the policies of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton — that was Obama’s war, yes,” Pierson said.

The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Pierson cited audio problems. :lol

Katrina Pierson (https://twitter.com/KatrinaPierson)
(https://twitter.com/KatrinaPierson)✔@KatrinaPierson (https://twitter.com/KatrinaPierson)

For the record, audio disruptions and echos should be fixed immediately. Especially when you say it out loud on the air.@CNN (https://twitter.com/CNN)

:lol :lol :lol

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-donald-trump-s-spokeswoman-says-it-was-1471118986-htmlstory.html

Trash hires the best people! :lol

Splits

08-14-2016, 05:40 PM

750397567830069248

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-A2q4a6B0OM0/V7DANZy4ObI/AAAAAAAAlNY/GSZ0WDthgIM2HrsG6I2EBGk2XNlVLZWxQCLcB/s1600/Screenshot%2B2016-08-14%2Bat%2B11.59.50%2BAM.png

Sourced from one of TSA's go to sites: http://beforeitsnews.com/ :lol

rmt

08-14-2016, 08:36 PM

OT: proud Jamaican here - go Bolt!

boutons_deux

08-14-2016, 09:14 PM

Trump Could End Up In Prison As He Continues To Solicit Illegal Foreign Donations

Calls for a full Justice Department investigation into the Trump campaign are growing as the Republican nominee continues to illegally solicit foreign donations.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/14/trump-prison-continues-solicit-illegal-foreign-donations.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Reck

08-14-2016, 10:28 PM

They did say the Trump campaign has raised over 120 millions in the past 2 months. That is a quick turnaround given that no big donors from the US is giving him signifant amount of money.

Makes you think.

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 04:50 AM

Bigotry Backfires On Republicans As Millennials Reject Trump And Flock To Hillary Clinton

A new poll of Millennials reveals that Donald Trump is getting historically low levels of support as voters under age 35 are flocking to Hillary Clinton.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/14/bigotry-backfires-republicans-millennials-reject-trump-flock-hillary-clinton.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 05:16 AM

Like all Trash supporters, Trash is dumb as fuck

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14022206_1046754715379374_5918601141702727291_n.jp g?oh=d204de3a3951925737cbc85574a75354&oe=5819B39E

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 07:02 AM

Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trump’s Campaign Chief

Handwritten ledgers show $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from Mr. Yanukovych’s pro-Russian political party from 2007 to 2012, according to Ukraine’s newly formed National Anti-Corruption Bureau.

Investigators assert that the disbursements were part of an illegal off-the-books system whose recipients also included election officials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

"Many people are saying" : "how deeply indebted is Trash to Russian oligarchs?"

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 10:33 AM

Trump’s 5 Biggest Lies

http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/Reuters_Direct_Media/USOnlineReportPoliticsNews/tagreuters.com2016binary_LYNXNPEC5R1RO-BASEIMAGE-e1467710787184-668x501.jpg

1. His supporters are the only “real Americans.”

Trump is doing worse with white voters, suffering unprecedented losses with college-educated Republicans and Republican women.

Still, somehow, Trump has convinced America’s loudest, angriest, and most ungrateful minority that they’re silent and a majority.

“Most Americans are white, most are Christian, most don’t have college degrees, and most live in the South or Midwest Census Bureau regions (http://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us_regdiv.pdf),”FiveThirtyEight‘s Nate Silver wrote.

“And yet, only about 1 in 5 voters meets all of these descriptions.” America’s working class is increasingly diverse.

While Trump has endeavored to do something Republicans have failed to do for generations — empathize with the pain of American workers who’ve been displaced by globalization (http://www.eclectablog.com/2016/08/trumps-biggest-fans-would-also-be-some-of-trumps-worst-victims.html)

2. He was against the Iraq War.

Trump’s one foreign policy credential is a lie. Unlike Barack Obama, Trump was for the war (https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/a-guide-to-donald-trump-early-flip-flops-on-the-iraq-war?utm_term=.jlD1P5y6A#.ap623DBPK) when it was hardest to be against it. And he was for the withdrawal (https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/trump-cites-iraq-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say?utm_term=.wckxbg5ed#.nnX4eNlnp) that he now blames for the creation of ISIS.

3. He would help workers.

Trump completed his evolution to full Romneyism/ Bushism/ Rubioism while maintaining his trademark racism (https://newrepublic.com/minutes/135902/donald-trump-now-running-mitt-romneys-campaign-plus-racism).

It’s the same old tax breaks that mostly or only help the rich, matched with… nothing to help workers.

“If such policies were effective, we would remember George W. Bush’s presidency as one of great prosperity, instead of a period of stagnant wages for blue- and white-collar workers,”

4. The press is killing his campaign.

Trump’s act used to feature him bragging about polls and acting awed over his success.

Now that the stench of failure follows him like a dazed Mike Pence, he’s stuck ranting against the institution that made his rise possible — free media.

The Washington Post‘s Greg Sargent points out (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/08/05/trump-thought-he-could-win-through-sheer-media-dominance-in-reality-its-killing-him/?utm_term=.a700c3411ce7) that while Trump’s “dominate all media” strategy worked in the GOP primary, he was completely unprepared for how “the coverage and scrutiny are inevitably getting a lot harsher, at precisely the moment when Trump is devolving into his worst bouts of depravity and unhinged behavior yet.”

5. Society is rigged against a fortunate son who’s relied on government help his entire career.

Trump’s rich daddy gave him every advantage known to man, which helped Trump avoid the draft and launch his business.

The courts protected him from creditors — over and over again.

City government and tax breaks fueled his first development projects.

Powerful lobbyists keep him from paying taxes.

Conservative media gave him a platform.

Cable news desperate for relevance let him exploit their airwaves to perform informercials of hate.

his escalating wrath comes from knowing that as rigged as his success has been,

he’s facing the greatest failure of his life, perhaps the most resounding defeat suffered by any candidate in a generation.

And he’s losing fair and square. Sad!

http://www.nationalmemo.com/trumps-5-biggest-lies/

Sad! :lol

SO SAD! :lol

DMX7

08-15-2016, 11:37 AM

Like all Trash supporters, Trash is dumb as fuck

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14022206_1046754715379374_5918601141702727291_n.jp g?oh=d204de3a3951925737cbc85574a75354&oe=5819B39E

Mr. Trump went to the Wharton School of Finance. He's like a really smart person.

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 11:48 AM

TRUMP BLAMES BAD POLL NUMBERS ON EXISTENCE OF NUMERICAL SYSTEM

YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO — Donald J. Trump lashed out a new target on Monday, blaming his bad poll numbers on the existence of the numerical system.

In sometimes rambling remarks at an outdoor rally in Ohio, the Republican Presidential nominee called the numerical system “rigged” and unleashed a torrent of abuse on numbers themselves, calling them “disgusting” and “the lowest form of life.”

“It’s why I won’t release my taxes,” he said. “They’re full of goddam numbers.”

While Republican candidates in the past have attempted to exploit their supporters’ distrust of math, Trump is believed to be the first nominee to call into question the numerical system itself.

Behind the scenes, G.O.P. insiders fretted that, in attacking the very existence of numbers, Trump was veering wildly off message.

“He should be talking about Hillary Clinton, and instead he’s going off on integers,” one insider said.

Officially, aides remained upbeat about the campaign and denied reports that Trump was spending an increasingly large portion of each day angrily muttering to himself and chewing on paper.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-blames-bad-poll-numbers-on-existence-of-numerical-system (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-blames-bad-poll-numbers-on-existence-of-numerical-system)

Reck

08-15-2016, 12:22 PM

Trump is getting his clock cleaned by Hillarity today.

And Joe hasn't even come up to speak yet. :lol

DMX7

08-15-2016, 12:31 PM

Trump is getting his clock cleaned by Hillarity today.

And Joe hasn't even come up to speak yet. :lol

Mr. Trump will be giving a major policy (maybe?) speech today on the fight against terrorism.

ducks

08-15-2016, 12:35 PM

Monday, August 15, 2016 -

Youngstown, OH

Donald J. Trump

Youngstown State University

2:00 PM

RandomGuy

08-15-2016, 12:38 PM

Like all Trash supporters, Trash is dumb as fuck

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14022206_1046754715379374_5918601141702727291_n.jp g?oh=d204de3a3951925737cbc85574a75354&oe=5819B39E

:cry the media is out to get me.

Fuck.

Let me ask one question, what would his supporters think a truly neutral media would say about something so fucktarded?

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 12:39 PM

Mr. Trump went to the Wharton School of Finance. He's like a really smart person.

probably father bribed admissions, happens a lot with wealthy people.

even dubya went to Yale and Harvard on "affirmative action"

RandomGuy

08-15-2016, 12:40 PM

Reck

08-15-2016, 12:41 PM

Seriously, you have to read more than a sentence or two of these to be able to see if it is satire or not.

What does that say?

He knows. That's why he puts a white link with super tiny fonts in there.

Dont know why he wastes his time with these though.

RandomGuy

08-15-2016, 12:43 PM

Mr. Trump went to the Wharton School of Finance. He's like a really smart person.

I’m telling you, I used to use the word incompetent. Now I just call them stupid. I went to an Ivy League school. I’m very highly educated. I know words, I have the best words...but there is no better word than stupid. Right?

"I've got words."

I am going to strain my eyes rolling them before November.

RandomGuy

08-15-2016, 01:03 PM

Trump trolling the oven dodger media

Here’s the set-up:

1. The mainstream media knows they are smarter than Donald Trump. They see evidence of this truth all the time, although much of that evidence is confirmation bias.*

Then…

2. Trump does something smart – accusing Obama and Clinton of being*“founders” of ISIS. This is a clever way to get the world to debate Clinton and Obama’s ineffectiveness during a time when ISIS expanded. In other words, it is brilliant media manipulation, and it worked.

3. CNN and other Clinton supporters interpret Trump’s statement about ISIS as absurd and uninformed because they can’t imagine a scenario in which Trump does something brilliant. Trump being brilliant isn’t one of the options, as far as they know.

The reality of Trump’s clever persuasion is crystal-clear to anyone who thinks Trump is smart. Trump was clearly joking about the*“founder” part to get people squawking, and it worked. Total success. Brilliant technique.

Now the media has a big problem. They can’t admit that they were extraordinarily dumb in this situation and Trump was brilliant. That reality is invisible to them because it doesn’t fit their worldview.

So…cognitive dissonance happens.*

This is a textbook set-up for cognitive dissonance. The facts we observe (Trump is smart, the media is gullible) is opposite of the media’s worldview in which they are smart and Trump is uninformed. So what do they do?

They act as if Trump is the dumb one in this situation. Because that fits their worldview.

And…they…fact-check his claim.

Meanwhile, the unhypnotized laugh themselves into a stupor watching this spectacle of cognitive dissonance. Humor aside, it is a marvelous and incredible thing to behold.

One of my smartest friends just emailed me to say he thinks Trump really believes that Obama and Clinton*“founded” ISIS. My friend has a very high IQ and he’s well-informed. But cognitive dissonance isn’t influenced by intelligence. He believes whatever fits his worldview. Just like the rest of us.

The fun part is that we can see cognitive dissonance when it happens to others – such as with my friend, and CNN – but we can’t see it when it happens to us. So don’t get too smug about this. You’re probably next.*

I think this story will end up in psychology textbooks. You rarely see such a clean example of cognitive dissonance in public.

Oh, and Trump hates babies, and he also wants a 2nd amendment supporter to assassinate his opponent. As long as the media is being dumbasses, they might as well fact-check that stuff too.

I have never been so entertained.

Eyup. +1

I am somewhat in awe of the way he is manipulating media to try and control the narrative and dominate coverage. It is working well.

He says stuff with juuust enough plausible denial to say "I wasn't really serious", but which resonate with angry disillusioned white people, then gets to play the "liberal media" card.

That Right there though pinpoints what is Trumps greatest failing:

His massive ego, and overconfidence. He got so pumped up in the primaries, where what he said didn’t really have to be smell tested by independents, or worry about riling up Democrats, that he set his own strategy up in his mind as a winning one that doesn’t need to be changed.

The datapoint that his ego won’t let him see is that he is creating his opponents narrative for her. His ego also doesn’t want to admit that he is part of a larger entity, the Republican party.

He is NOT a team player. The same eschewing of social norms that is causing Republicans down-ticket to not just back away from him, but to actively disavow their top-ticket nominee, will not play well on the world stage either. Countries and alliances are not too unlike individuals in that regard. Trump’s presidency would see our great country turned into a pariah, and actively hand our enemies constant propaganda victories about an unstable, unreliable superpower that can’t be trusted.

Trump’s strategy is working and is, in its limited way, brilliant. It is also going to fail spectacularly in November when it comes to producing votes. It is a brilliant way to win media coverage, but an utter failure at getting votes.

The reality TV star with the outsized ego will be unable to see that. I would offer the fact that he didn’t pivot, and every day he doesn’t try to get the bilge pumps working is a day closer to that.

Trumps candidacy will have damaging effects long after the election is over, and we have sworn in the first woman president. It will play into the overall Democratic narrative of “too erratic and radical to be trusted with government” narrative.

RandomGuy

08-15-2016, 01:07 PM

Who will win the presidency?
Chance of winning

FiveThirtyEight
Hillary Clinton
89.0%
Donald Trump
11.0%
FiveThirtyEight

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

It will be harder and harder for his supporters to explain away these numbers as "poll bias".

You can put your thumb on the scale only so far, but it is hard to really do much to affect the measurement with your thumb when you are weighing an elephant.

Reck

08-15-2016, 01:12 PM

Eyup. +1

I am somewhat in awe of the way he is manipulating media to try and control the narrative and dominate coverage. It is working well.

He says stuff with juuust enough plausible denial to say "I wasn't really serious", but which resonate with angry disillusioned white people, then gets to play the "liberal media" card.

That Right there though pinpoints what is Trumps greatest failing:

His massive ego, and overconfidence. He got so pumped up in the primaries, where what he said didn’t really have to be smell tested by independents, or worry about riling up Democrats, that he set his own strategy up in his mind as a winning one that doesn’t need to be changed.

The datapoint that his ego won’t let him see is that he is creating his opponents narrative for her. His ego also doesn’t want to admit that he is part of a larger entity, the Republican party.

He is NOT a team player. The same eschewing of social norms that is causing Republicans down-ticket to not just back away from him, but to actively disavow their top-ticket nominee, will not play well on the world stage either. Countries and alliances are not too unlike individuals in that regard. Trump’s presidency would see our great country turned into a pariah, and actively hand our enemies constant propaganda victories about an unstable, unreliable superpower that can’t be trusted.

Trump’s strategy is working and is, in its limited way, brilliant. It is also going to fail spectacularly in November when it comes to producing votes. It is a brilliant way to win media coverage, but an utter failure at getting votes.

The reality TV star with the outsized ego will be unable to see that. I would offer the fact that he didn’t pivot, and every day he doesn’t try to get the bilge pumps working is a day closer to that.

Trumps candidacy will have damaging effects long after the election is over, and we have sworn in the first woman president. It will play into the overall Democratic narrative of “too erratic and radical to be trusted with government” narrative.

If his strategy is working why are more and more people distancing themselves from him?

They're not working for the voters and they're not working for his brand.

Many of his hotels are now tanking. No bookings.

It has gotten so bad they had to lower their prices. :lol

https://priceonomics.com/bookings-at-trump-hotels-plummet/

Also here's a list of the companies that have already dumped the Trump.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/companies-dumped-donald-trump/story?id=32162703

This guy is going home a bigger loser than how he came in.

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 01:18 PM

Polls: Clinton Running the Table in Key Battlegrounds

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/polls-clinton-running-table-key-battlegrounds-n629136?cid=sm_fb_lastword

DMX7

08-15-2016, 01:33 PM

Actual Quote by Mr. Trump on Tim Kaine:

"I actually think he is going to be a negative in Virginia, not a positive. I really do, I really do. Hey, you know what? I wish him luck, I wish him luck. Whatever. Whatever."

:lol

da_suns_fan

08-15-2016, 01:44 PM

Eyup. +1

I am somewhat in awe of the way he is manipulating media to try and control the narrative and dominate coverage. It is working well.

He says stuff with juuust enough plausible denial to say "I wasn't really serious", but which resonate with angry disillusioned white people, then gets to play the "liberal media" card.

That Right there though pinpoints what is Trumps greatest failing:

His massive ego, and overconfidence. He got so pumped up in the primaries, where what he said didn’t really have to be smell tested by independents, or worry about riling up Democrats, that he set his own strategy up in his mind as a winning one that doesn’t need to be changed.

The datapoint that his ego won’t let him see is that he is creating his opponents narrative for her. His ego also doesn’t want to admit that he is part of a larger entity, the Republican party.

He is NOT a team player. The same eschewing of social norms that is causing Republicans down-ticket to not just back away from him, but to actively disavow their top-ticket nominee, will not play well on the world stage either. Countries and alliances are not too unlike individuals in that regard. Trump’s presidency would see our great country turned into a pariah, and actively hand our enemies constant propaganda victories about an unstable, unreliable superpower that can’t be trusted.

Trump’s strategy is working and is, in its limited way, brilliant. It is also going to fail spectacularly in November when it comes to producing votes. It is a brilliant way to win media coverage, but an utter failure at getting votes.

The reality TV star with the outsized ego will be unable to see that. I would offer the fact that he didn’t pivot, and every day he doesn’t try to get the bilge pumps working is a day closer to that.

Trumps candidacy will have damaging effects long after the election is over, and we have sworn in the first woman president. It will play into the overall Democratic narrative of “too erratic and radical to be trusted with government” narrative.

Im pretty sure theres no "strategy". Even if there was one, Trump would never follow it. He just tries to get the crowds in front of him all riled up and get the applause he wants and says stupid things.

Then when the media report on it he says he a victim and some people say he's "brilliant".

I wouldnt trust this guy with my grocery list. He would come back from the store empty handed and claim I never gave him my grocery list. After pressing he would say the store didnt have any groceries. After pressing more he would say all the groceries were junk etc.

da_suns_fan

08-15-2016, 01:45 PM

spurraider21

08-15-2016, 01:45 PM

Seriously, you have to read more than a sentence or two of these to be able to see if it is satire or not.

What does that say?
It says that you're slow

Reck

08-15-2016, 02:24 PM

DMX7

08-15-2016, 02:26 PM

What a shitty speech.

:cry We're gonna suspend immigrations. :lol
:cry We're gonna shut down the Internet to keep terrorism out. :cry
:lol We're gonna break every single constitutional right to kill anyone and everyone. :lol

Mr. Trump built one of the great companies of the world. Great assets, tremendous cash flow! He doesn't need this.

ducks

08-15-2016, 02:28 PM

we have to change something
doing to the same thing over and over again is a definition of being insain and that is what Clinton wants to do

ducks

08-15-2016, 02:28 PM

immigrations do not have more rights then americans!

ducks

08-15-2016, 02:29 PM

crime is up because people have no jobs!

ducks

08-15-2016, 02:30 PM

WHAT WOULD RECK DO?

ducks

08-15-2016, 02:39 PM

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Radical_Islam_Speech.pdf 20 pages if you want to read it

Warlord23

08-15-2016, 02:54 PM

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Radical_Islam_Speech.pdf 20 pages if you want to read it

Look at my hands. They’re fine. Nobody other than Graydon Carter years ago used to use that. My hands are normal hands. During a debate, he was losing, and he said, “Oh, he has small hands and therefore, you know what that means.” This was not me. This was Rubio that said, “He has small hands and you know what that means.” Okay? So, he started it. So, what I said a couple of days later … and what happened is I was on line shaking hands with supporters, and one of supporters got up and he said, “Mr. Trump, you have strong hands. You have good-sized hands.” And then another one would say, “You have great hands, Mr. Trump, I had no idea.” I said, “What do you mean?” He said, “I thought you were like deformed, and I thought you had small hands.” I had fifty people … Is that a correct statement? I mean people were writing, “How are Mr. Trump’s hands?” My hands are fine. You know, my hands are normal. Slightly large, actually. In fact, I buy a slightly smaller than large glove, okay? No, but I did this because everybody was saying to me, “Oh, your hands are very nice. They are normal.” So Rubio, in a debate, said, because he had nothing else to say … now I was hitting him pretty hard. He wanted to do his Don Rickles stuff and it didn’t work out. Obviously, it didn’t work too well. But one of the things he said was “He has small hands and therefore, you know what that means, he has small something else.” You can look it up. I didn’t say it.

ducks

08-15-2016, 03:01 PM

everyone has lied

Clinton lied to family members that died because of political gains for the current president that is far worse
she also has lied about her emails

rmt

08-15-2016, 03:05 PM

Trump gets killed for what he SAYS (sometimes deservedly so). Hillary gets a pass on what she DOES. Whatever happened to actions speak louder than words.

RandomGuy

08-15-2016, 03:38 PM

Trump gets killed for what he SAYS (sometimes deservedly so). Hillary gets a pass on what she DOES. Whatever happened to actions speak louder than words.

What about the pass you are giving trump on how badly he is managing his campaign?

or how badly he is souring relations with his own party?

His business was one of tight control, with one guy at the top directing everything, in a small organization.

That just doesn't work in a presidency, where you have millions of employees, or a campaign which is also pretty large scale. (edit) He seems unable to grasp this very basic thing.(/edit)

You can't blame media bias, or skewed polls for that, rmt. That is ALL on him, and he is flailing badly, and looks set to lose in a landslide of historic proportions to the single most unpopular Democratic national candidate in the modern era.

When will you stop giving him a pass for failing?

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 05:28 PM

Donald Trump's Wildly Contradictory Foreign Policy Speech in 5 Tweets

1) Trump's contention that the United States should have kept Iraq's oil after the 2003 invasion.

3h
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/456819845711925248/gjnObvRb_bigger.jpegMicah Zenko @MicahZenko (https://twitter.com/MicahZenko)

Trump: US military should have stolen Iraqi oil and natural gas, and then produced and exported it to consumers. #newmission (https://twitter.com/hashtag/newmission?src=hash)

Follow (https://twitter.com/MicahZenko)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/456819845711925248/gjnObvRb_bigger.jpegMicah Zenko @MicahZenko (https://twitter.com/MicahZenko)

Just to be clear: Trump opposes "nation-building," but supports using US troops for coerced natural resource extraction.
1:53 PM - 15 Aug 2016 (https://twitter.com/MicahZenko/status/765260164962201601)

(https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=765260164962201601)

176176 Retweets (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=765260164962201601)

181181 likes (https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=765260164962201601)

2) Trump's call for human rights—and praise for Middle Eastern dictators.

Follow (https://twitter.com/michaelcrowley)
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✔@michaelcrowley (https://twitter.com/michaelcrowley)

Trump bashes Obama for not pressing human rights during '09 Cairo visit. Then vows close partnership with even more repressive Egypt vs ISIS
2:01 PM - 15 Aug 2016 (https://twitter.com/michaelcrowley/status/765262169118281728)

(https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=765262169118281728)

6262 Retweets (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=765262169118281728)

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At another point in the speech, Trump also praised the alleged stability of the Middle East in 2009 under repressive rulers including Libya's Muammar Qaddafi, Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, and Syria's Bashar al-Assad.

3) Trump's insistence that Obama and Clinton caused Iraq to fall apart by pulling troops out in 2011.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp6_GEdW8AAyUaX.jpg:smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp6_ai2XYAAikXQ.jpg:small (http://twitter.com/alivitali/status/765259486588174336/photo/1)

Follow (https://twitter.com/alivitali)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/723730577610911744/95Ub9VEW_bigger.jpgAli Vitali
✔@alivitali (https://twitter.com/alivitali)

Trump calls Obama/Clinton "reckless" for leaving Iraq. But he also advocated for troops to get out "right now" in 08
1:50 PM - 15 Aug 2016 (https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/765259486588174336)

(https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=765259486588174336)

123123 Retweets (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=765259486588174336)

8787 likes (https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=765259486588174336)

Trump also falsely claimed (http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/) [6]—again—that he opposed the war in Iraq before it began.

4) Trump's demands that the United States take actions against ISIS that it's already taking.

Follow (https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/761221296273428480/IdvtkfuT_bigger.jpgKevin Baron
✔@DefenseBaron (https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron)

Trump: Keep open GTMO. Renewed emph on HUMINT. Drone strikes.
Obama already doing it: check, check, check.
2:11 PM - 15 Aug 2016 (https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron/status/765264671091941376)

(https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=765264671091941376)

3636 Retweets (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=765264671091941376)

3333 likes (https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=765264671091941376)

5) Trump's mockery of Merkel for accepting refugees in Germany.
View image on Twitter (http://twitter.com/_cingraham/status/765263570770628608/photo/1)

Follow (https://twitter.com/_cingraham)
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serendipity

2:07 PM - 15 Aug 2016 (https://twitter.com/_cingraham/status/765263570770628608)

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-wildly-contradictory-foreign-policy-speech-5-tweets

Killakobe81

08-15-2016, 05:28 PM

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 05:29 PM

Jaws Drop As Poll Shows Trump Could Lose His Own Running Mate’s State Of Indiana

Donald Trump's campaign is faring so poorly that new internal polling revealed that Hillary Clinton is tied with Trump in his own running mate's home state of Indiana.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/15/jaws-drop-poll-shows-trump-lose-running-mates-state-indiana.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 06:23 PM

Just another totally fucked up, demagogue-ing Trash fellator

Giuliani Claims There Were No Terror Attacks On US Soil Before Obama

Rudy Giuliani, who was the mayor of New York City on 9/11, declared that Islamic extremists hadn't carried out any terror attacks on American soil before Barack Obama's presidency.

"Under those 8 years, before Obama came along, we didn't have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the US," Giuliani told the crowd. "They all started when Clinton and Obama came into office."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rudy-giuliani-forgets-sept-11-donald-trump?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 06:48 PM

The State of the Clinton-Trump Race: Is It Over?

Her national lead over Donald J. Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/donald-trump-on-the-issues.html?inline=nyt-per) of seven (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/polls.html) to eight (http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton) percentage points could slip a bit over the next few weeks. But it has been long enough that much of her expected convention “bounce” should have faded. It leaves Mr. Trump in an unenviable position:

No modern candidate who has trailed by this much a few weeks after the conventions has gone on to win the presidency.
On that basis, you can expect a wave of articles about how the presidential race is basically “over.”

That’s probably a bit too strong, at least from a historical point of view.

The Upshot’s model gives Mrs. Clinton an 88 percent chance of winning.

It’s about the same probability of hitting a field goal from the 20-yard line.

The possibility of a landslide victory for Mrs. Clinton — one larger than any since 1984 in the national popular vote — is larger than the chance that Mr. Trump will pull it out.

Mrs. Clinton’s gains have proved relatively durable in part because they’ve come from Democratic-leaning voters who seem unlikely to defect to Mr. Trump.

Recent polls have shown her with the support of up to 90 percent of Bernie Sanders’s supporters, and more than 90 percent of Democrats.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/upshot/the-state-of-the-clinton-trump-race-is-it-over.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

baseline bum

08-15-2016, 07:08 PM

Guliani :lmao

http://i.onionstatic.com/onion/3335/original/304.jpg

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boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 07:16 PM

Julie Annie willfully forgets WTC being hit TWICE by Muslim terrorists, once while he was police chief, once while he was self-anointed, self-promoting "America's Mayor"

His "history" starts 20 Jan 2009.

boutons_deux

08-15-2016, 07:27 PM

Pro-Trump Breitbart commissions its own poll, but it still shows Trump getting hammered (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/15/1560401/-Pro-Trump-Breitbart-commissions-its-own-poll-but-it-still-shows-Trump-getting-hammered)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/08/15/1560401/-Pro-Trump-Breitbart-commissions-its-own-poll-but-it-still-shows-Trump-getting-hammered?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

Splits

08-15-2016, 08:10 PM

Damn, truth bombs detonated

Yeah RG is that nigga, constantly brings the pain

ducks

08-15-2016, 08:40 PM

As previously noted, Trump has more than ten times the number of people at his campaign events than Hillary has at hers since August 1st. More than 100,000 people have shown up for Trump events since the beginning of August (with many more turned away due to the events reaching capacity). Hillary on the other hand hasn’t even had one tenth of that or not even 10,000 show up at her events since August 1st.

rmt

08-15-2016, 08:53 PM

What about the pass you are giving trump on how badly he is managing his campaign?

or how badly he is souring relations with his own party?

His business was one of tight control, with one guy at the top directing everything, in a small organization.

That just doesn't work in a presidency, where you have millions of employees, or a campaign which is also pretty large scale. (edit) He seems unable to grasp this very basic thing.(/edit)

You can't blame media bias, or skewed polls for that, rmt. That is ALL on him, and he is flailing badly, and looks set to lose in a landslide of historic proportions to the single most unpopular Democratic national candidate in the modern era.

When will you stop giving him a pass for failing?

I am not giving him any pass on how he's managing his campaign. He's crazy to be campaigning in CT. He can't keep his mouth shut. It's like he feels he must entertain at these rallies and in order to do that, he says more and more outrageous things. But the media does blow his words up out of proportion. If he blatantly lied like Hillary did with Wallace about Comey and the emails, he'd get crucified by the media. She - barely a blip. This is a race where the lower the profile, the better. She got baited about lack of press conference, answered two questions and got herself into trouble. Imagine if she talked the amount of (unscripted) times he does. I expect her to not say anything that's not scripted from now till the election. What got him attention and won him the nomination is working against him in the general election - if this election is about him, he loses which is stupid on his part because there is lots of ammunition with what is wrong with this country.

He needs to only talk policy - how bad the economy is - low GDP, low worker productivity, low home ownership - it's the economy, stupid and national security/ISIS/ME. She cannot defend these topics and they are the 2 topics that worry Americans most. Oh, and Obamacare and the increase in premiums. Shut up about anything personal or anything else. His only hope now is devastating news in released emails and that might not even matter - I fear people are getting email fatigue - it's already baked in. Nothing he SAYS is as bad as all the stuff that she's DONE and will the media follow up on her - nope - look at NYT and Mannafort/Russia - why aren't they looking into Cheryl Mills and the Clinton Foundation?

And I don't recall saying anything about skewed polls - I helped out with some math in one particular poll that was over-represented, but I didn't bring the topic up.

rmt

08-15-2016, 10:59 PM

And lest you think that I've given up on Trump - I haven't. IMO, his policies are what could possibly get us out of this financial mess (and yes, I know there are those of you who don't think we're in one). The way this country is going with socialism and the thought of free this and free that and that we can tax the rich to pay for it all - well, the rich are not stupid and they have many more options and choices than the rest of us (like leaving the country) - sooner or later, other people's money will run out (or leave) and what happens then - Venezuela? Do you think we can indefinitely support all these illegals coming in, all the seniors, all the unemployed?

But take heart, I don't think that Hillary is the ideologue that Obama is. She cares only for herself and hers - so there's the chance that she won't even pursue any of the things she's promised - maybe she'll keep busy enriching the Clinton Foundation for 4-8 years and retire to her and Bill's speaking engagements.

spurraider21

08-16-2016, 02:12 AM

would trump pass his own immigration test, tbh? :lol

FuzzyLumpkins

08-16-2016, 02:46 AM

FuzzyLumpkins

08-16-2016, 03:07 AM

I am not giving him any pass on how he's managing his campaign. He's crazy to be campaigning in CT. He can't keep his mouth shut. It's like he feels he must entertain at these rallies and in order to do that, he says more and more outrageous things. But the media does blow his words up out of proportion. If he blatantly lied like Hillary did with Wallace about Comey and the emails, he'd get crucified by the media. She - barely a blip. This is a race where the lower the profile, the better. She got baited about lack of press conference, answered two questions and got herself into trouble. Imagine if she talked the amount of (unscripted) times he does. I expect her to not say anything that's not scripted from now till the election. What got him attention and won him the nomination is working against him in the general election - if this election is about him, he loses which is stupid on his part because there is lots of ammunition with what is wrong with this country.

He needs to only talk policy - how bad the economy is - low GDP, low worker productivity, low home ownership - it's the economy, stupid and national security/ISIS/ME. She cannot defend these topics and they are the 2 topics that worry Americans most. Oh, and Obamacare and the increase in premiums. Shut up about anything personal or anything else. His only hope now is devastating news in released emails and that might not even matter - I fear people are getting email fatigue - it's already baked in. Nothing he SAYS is as bad as all the stuff that she's DONE and will the media follow up on her - nope - look at NYT and Mannafort/Russia - why aren't they looking into Cheryl Mills and the Clinton Foundation?

And I don't recall saying anything about skewed polls - I helped out with some math in one particular poll that was over-represented, but I didn't bring the topic up.

You can parrot him about the economy if it makes you feel better but considering the POTUS came in with the worst economic downturn in 80 years and 7 out of the last 8 quarters have seen growth your whinging about the economy is not getting traction amongst independents and the opposition. Unemployment has been dropping and if you think either oligarch is going to do anything about the rich poor gap then you are delusional.

There is an FBI probe in the Clinton Foundation. Pay attention. BTW your take is a parrot from Lewandowski. You claim to criticize the Trump campaign yet you parrot it's mouthpiece like a good minion. The press reported that too btw.

BTW its not 'free.' We pay taxes remember? The notion that free market can handle things like infrastructure, health care, education, and mass transit at a reasonable cost is empirically false.

Th'Pusher

08-16-2016, 06:42 AM

I am not giving him any pass on how he's managing his campaign. He's crazy to be campaigning in CT. He can't keep his mouth shut. It's like he feels he must entertain at these rallies and in order to do that, he says more and more outrageous things. But the media does blow his words up out of proportion. If he blatantly lied like Hillary did with Wallace about Comey and the emails, he'd get crucified by the media. She - barely a blip. This is a race where the lower the profile, the better. She got baited about lack of press conference, answered two questions and got herself into trouble. Imagine if she talked the amount of (unscripted) times he does. I expect her to not say anything that's not scripted from now till the election. What got him attention and won him the nomination is working against him in the general election - if this election is about him, he loses which is stupid on his part because there is lots of ammunition with what is wrong with this country.

He needs to only talk policy - how bad the economy is - low GDP, low worker productivity, low home ownership - it's the economy, stupid and national security/ISIS/ME. She cannot defend these topics and they are the 2 topics that worry Americans most. Oh, and Obamacare and the increase in premiums. Shut up about anything personal or anything else. His only hope now is devastating news in released emails and that might not even matter - I fear people are getting email fatigue - it's already baked in. Nothing he SAYS is as bad as all the stuff that she's DONE and will the media follow up on her - nope - look at NYT and Mannafort/Russia - why aren't they looking into Cheryl Mills and the Clinton Foundation?

And I don't recall saying anything about skewed polls - I helped out with some math in one particular poll that was over-represented, but I didn't bring the topic up.

You continue to harp on the low GDP growth, and while it has been depressed since the Great recession, you have to look at it in the context of other industrialized countries. What you'll find is that it is in-line with or better than most.

This is my primary issue with your posts RMT...you take the latest GOP talking point, repeat it ad nauseam without any critical analysis. If it's anti Obama or anti democrat, it's gospel to RMT.

boutons_deux

08-16-2016, 06:56 AM

Establishment Repugs won't let Pres Trash (gag!) do anything non-Repug, eg

GOP Obsession With Austerity Is to Blame for Sluggish Economic Recovery

New analysis provides opportunity to challenge austerity policies 'directly, unambiguously, and fearlessly'

Fiscal austerity in the wake of the Great Recession—imposed by Republicans on the federal, state, and local levels—is responsible for the sluggish pace of economic recovery since 2009, states a new paper (http://www.epi.org/publication/why-is-recovery-taking-so-long-and-who-is-to-blame) that undercuts conservative attempts to pin the blame on President Barack Obama.

"By far the biggest drag on growth throughout the recovery from the Great Recession has been the fiscal policy forced upon us by Republican lawmakers in Congress and austerity-minded state legislatures and governors," wrote Josh Bivens of the Economic Policy Institute (EPI), which put out the analysis on Thursday.

Because the "ability of conventional monetary policy to spur recovery following the Great Recession was more limited than in any other post-war recovery," Bivens explained, increases in government spending and federal aid to states were necessary to help working Americans following the recession that began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009.

Given the degree of damage inflicted by the Great Recession and the restricted ability of monetary policy to aid recovery, historically expansionary fiscal policy was required to return the U.S. economy to full health," said Bivens, who is EPI's research and policy director.

"But this government spending not only failed to rise fast enough to spur a rapid recovery, it outright contracted, and this policy choice fully explains why the economy is only partially recovered from the Great Recession a full seven years after its official end."

s he said.

(In fact, even the stimulus measures that were enacted were criticized (http://www.commondreams.org/views/2010/11/05/failure-enact-bigger-stimulus-was-fatal-mistake) at the time as too small (http://www.commondreams.org/views/2009/04/21/more-fiscal-stimulus-needed-reverse-economic-decline) to make a real difference (http://www.commondreams.org/views/2009/06/02/economic-recovery-wishful-thinking).)

As the Guardian notes (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/aug/11/us-economy-recession-republicans-hillary-clinton-policy), "[t]he report comes as the Republican party once again calls for the reining in of government spending and reductions in the deficit."

But, while it's clear that "Republicans remain steadfast in their opposition to government spending—even for government jobs like teaching, firefighting, and emergency management," Campaign for America's Future blogger Richard Eskow notes (https://ourfuture.org/20160812/the-fiscal-myth-thats-killing-the-economy-in-7-steps) that "a lot of Democrats have bought into the myth, too."

Indeed, he wrote on Friday, "[t]here are strong hints of austerity-oriented thinking in Hillary Clinton's rhetoric,"

================

Why is recovery taking so long — and who’s to blame?

http://www.epi.org/publication/why-is-recovery-taking-so-long-and-who-is-to-blame/

Repug/conservative strategy is to fuck up govt so people will hate govt for being fucked up (eg: Repug strict obstructionist in Congress).

Repugs tried to make Obama one-term Pres by fucking up the economy with austerity so they could run in 2012 on "Obama's bad economy"

Pelicans78

08-16-2016, 06:58 AM

Trump gets killed for what he SAYS (sometimes deservedly so). Hillary gets a pass on what she DOES. Whatever happened to actions speak louder than words.

You're gonna blame the media for this instead of your candidate's stupidity? Seriously, he's on his way to getting destroyed in the election and costing his party many seats in the house and senate.

rmt

08-16-2016, 07:32 AM

You can parrot him about the economy if it makes you feel better but considering the POTUS came in with the worst economic downturn in 80 years and 7 out of the last 8 quarters have seen growth your whinging about the economy is not getting traction amongst independents and the opposition. Unemployment has been dropping and if you think either oligarch is going to do anything about the rich poor gap then you are delusional.

There is an FBI probe in the Clinton Foundation. Pay attention. BTW your take is a parrot from Lewandowski. You claim to criticize the Trump campaign yet you parrot it's mouthpiece like a good minion. The press reported that too btw.

BTW its not 'free.' We pay taxes remember? The notion that free market can handle things like infrastructure, health care, education, and mass transit at a reasonable cost is empirically false.

Pardon me, if I don't think that 0.8 and 1.2 GDP in the last 2 quarters is as great as you do. Go ahead and believe that unemployment is dropping when people have just given up. How do you explain the labor participation rate? Do you really think that everyone who wants a job has one and hasn't just given up (or aren't working 2 or 3 part times ones)?

You are the one who isn't paying attention. What does the FBI have to do with this? I was talking about the media (specifically about NYT) and how they cover Trump as opposed to Hillary. I know it's not free stuff - but isn't it being sold as "free" and that we're gonna tax those evil rich people and corporations to pay for it. But guess what, it's those evil rich people and corporations who create jobs - jobs that we so desperately need. And if you tax them severely to pay for healthcare, college tuition, parental leave, etc - do you think they are going to invest in new equipment to improve worker productivity, create new jobs, etc?

And we'll just have to disagree on whether the government can do infrastructure, healthcare, education and transit as cheaply/efficiently as the private sector. Look at this mess we're in with Obamacare when yes, Obama and the democrats, do something about healthcare. Soon the premiums/deductibles/copays will be so high that the young and middle class will not be able to afford it, will drop out and then instead of poor people being the ones without health care, it'll be the young and middle class who'll still be helping to fund it with their penalties and getting nothing in return. All those billions wasting on the website, advertising, help desk, operators, etc could have gone to helping those with major health problems and left the rest of the country able to buy what they want/need (mostly catastrophic insurance to cover major incidents) instead of coverage we don't want or need.

rmt

08-16-2016, 07:33 AM

You're gonna blame the media for this instead of your candidate's stupidity? Seriously, he's on his way to getting destroyed in the election and costing his party many seats in the house and senate.

Maybe you missed the part where I said "sometimes deservedly so"? LOL - if you think the media's coverage of Trump and Hillary are equally fair.

rmt

08-16-2016, 07:53 AM

You continue to harp on the low GDP growth, and while it has been depressed since the Great recession, you have to look at it in the context of other industrialized countries. What you'll find is that it is in-line with or better than most.

This is my primary issue with your posts RMT...you take the latest GOP talking point, repeat it ad nauseam without any critical analysis. If it's anti Obama or anti democrat, it's gospel to RMT.

Pardon me, if I don't want to go down the road that the other industrialized countries are going - overrun with migrants, very susceptible to terrorism, negative interest rates, huge pension and retiree obligations, etc.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/europe-faces-pension-predicament-1457287588

Illinois (iirc) faces less than 50% pension funded ratio but I guess when the fan hits the ceiling, some can just move to other states - the people from other industrialized countries - not so much.

I guess you'd rather hear from the democrats how rosy the economy is instead of the doom and gloom from the GOP/Trump. You can go ahead and believe the promises that Hillary is spouting - believe that we can have "free" healthcare, college tuition and parental leave. I'll continue to believe that we can't even afford what we already have - SS, Medicare, Medicaid and servicing our $19.4+ trillion debt.

CosmicCowboy

08-16-2016, 07:55 AM

CosmicCowboy

08-16-2016, 08:34 AM

Ignorant pussy mongoloid piece of shit. Kill yourself. It would be the one decent thing you have ever done.

Same to you, asshole.

Hasn't school started yet?

Reck

08-16-2016, 09:03 AM

You act like you don't have the school calendar memorized, along with recess times and bus routes.

:wow

And :lmao

CosmicCowboy

08-16-2016, 09:08 AM

:wow

And :lmao

Yeah, it's real funny how a flaming faggot like Bonnerific can twist my statement that I would have fucked a hot female teacher in high school given the opportunity into participating in his fucked up fantasy world of hunting little boys.

Splits

08-16-2016, 09:12 AM

You act like you don't have the school calendar memorized, along with recess times and bus routes.

I will bet that you are in heaven now all the little boys in their first day of school uniforms.

You get aroused when you walk through the school uniform section at old navy don't you pedo.

Holy shit :lmao

CosmicCowboy

08-16-2016, 09:27 AM

Holy shit :lmao

Like I said...I'm not participating in that flaming faggots fantasies about little boys.

Reck

08-16-2016, 09:35 AM

Someone's being defensive. :lol

CosmicCowboy

08-16-2016, 09:39 AM

Someone's being defensive. :lol

Someones tired of the faggots fantasy bullshit.

Splits

08-16-2016, 09:44 AM

August 16, 2016

An Open Letter to Reince Priebus, Chairman, Republican National Committee

In every election cycle, the Republican National Committee (RNC) must make difficult decisions in the closing months about where to allocate its limited resources – money, time, staff, and ads – to ensure the best possible opportunities for the Party’s success. Given the catastrophic impact that Donald Trump’s losing presidential campaign will have on down-ballot Senate and House races, we urge you to immediately suspend all discretionary RNC support for Trump and focus the entirety of the RNC’s available resources on preserving the GOP’s congressional majorities.

The signatories to this letter have been involved with Republican politics at the local, state, and national levels for more than three decades. We have served as past and current elected officials and as staffers for the RNC; appointees in every Republican administration since President Reagan; advisors on the last nine GOP presidential campaigns; aides on leadership, personal, and committee staff in both the House and Senate; grassroots workers; and delegates to multiple GOP conventions.

We believe that Donald Trump’s divisiveness, recklessness, incompetence, and record-breaking unpopularity risk turning this election into a Democratic landslide, and only the immediate shift of all available RNC resources to vulnerable Senate and House races will prevent the GOP from drowning with a Trump-emblazoned anchor around its neck. This should not be a difficult decision, as Donald Trump’s chances of being elected president are evaporating by the day. Since the GOP convention, less than a month ago, he has alienated millions of voters of all parties by:

• Attacking Gold Star families of soldiers who died serving their country;
• Urging a hostile foreign government to intervene in a U.S. election;
• Suggesting that gun owners take action against his opponent if she is elected;
• Repudiating our NATO treaty obligations to protect our allies;
• Reportedly expressing interest in the preemptive use of nuclear weapons;
• Exposing his total ignorance of basic foreign policy matters;
• Stating his admiration for violent foreign autocrats;
• Refusing to disclose any of his past taxes, including those not under audit; and
• Deliberately and repeatedly lying about scores of issues, large and small.

Those recent outrages have built on his campaign of anger and exclusion, during which he has mocked and offended millions of voters, including the disabled, women, Muslims, immigrants, and minorities. He also has shown dangerous authoritarian tendencies, including threats to ban an entire religion from entering the country, order the military to break the law by torturing prisoners, kill the families of suspected terrorists, track law-abiding Muslim citizens in databases, and use executive orders to implement other illegal and unconstitutional measures.

Those disqualifying elements of Trump’s personality and positions are reflected in his plummeting support. As respected polling analyst Nate Silver recently wrote, “recent Fox News, Marist College and NBC News/Wall Street Journal national polls show Trump trailing Clinton by 9 to 14 percentage points, margins that would make for the largest general election blowout since 1984 if they held.”

Commenting on the Marist poll, The Washington Post said, “Those numbers are, to put it bluntly, shocking. Mitt Romney was never down by that much to President Obama in 2012; his worst poll was a survey in June from Bloomberg that had him down 13, with 40 percent of the vote.” On Clinton’s seven-point lead in the overall polling average, the article continued, “Relative to Election Day in 2004, 2008 and 2012, Clinton's lead is more than twice that of the eventual victor at this point. “

According to Silver, whose analysis correctly picked 49 of the 50 states in the 2008 presidential election and all 50 states in 2012, current polling gives Trump barely a 11 percent chance of being elected president in November. That polling projects a potential 365 electoral vote blowout for Hillary Clinton, including a sweep of every battleground state from Florida to Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Colorado, Virginia, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, and North Carolina. Trump’s across-the-board collapse has put even Republican bastions like Georgia and Arizona in play

As you know, there are very rarely large shifts in support at this late stage in a presidential election cycle, particularly with two candidates as well known to the public as the current nominees.

Beyond Trump’s likely electoral failure, his actions toward his fellow Republicans should disqualify him from receiving any further support. Since winning the primaries, Trump has claimed he wants to unify the party but instead has doubled down on vicious and vengeful attacks on fellow Republicans, including:
• Threatening to set up a super PAC with tens of millions of dollars of his own money to go after Republicans who did not support him;
• Dismissing a GOP Senator who spent more than five years being tortured as a prisoner- of-war as “not a hero;”
• Warning another GOP Senator that he might work against his reelection;
• Calling yet another incumbent Republican Senator a “loser” to his Senate peers;
• Repeating his false and outlandish claims that yet another Senator’s father played some role in the Kennedy assassination;
• Falsely accusing the nation’s first Hispanic woman Governor of “not doing her job;” and
• Refusing to initially endorse the Speaker of the House and at least two Republican Senators, despite their support for his presidential bid.

In summary, every dollar spent by the RNC on Donald Trump’s campaign is a dollar of donor money wasted on the losing effort of a candidate who has actively undermined the GOP at every turn. Rather than throwing good money after bad, the RNC should shift its strategy and its resources to convince voters not to give Hillary Clinton the “blank check” of a Democrat controlled Congress to advance her big government agenda.

Signing an appeal such as this is not easy for any of us. But in our view, Trump’s divisive and dangerous actions are not only a threat to our other candidates, but to our Party and the nation. Only swift and decisive action can save the Republican Party and protect the hundreds of other GOP candidates running for office. We urge the RNC to immediately halt all support for Donald Trump and invest its resources in a real and winnable campaign to save the Republican Senate and House.

:lol

RandomGuy

08-16-2016, 10:10 AM

He needs to only talk policy - how bad the economy is - low GDP, low worker productivity, low home ownership - it's the economy, stupid and national security/ISIS/ME. She cannot defend these topics and they are the 2 topics that worry Americans most. Oh, and Obamacare and the increase in premiums. Shut up about anything personal or anything else. His only hope now is devastating news in released emails and that might not even matter - I fear people are getting email fatigue - it's already baked in. Nothing he SAYS is as bad as all the stuff that she's DONE and will the media follow up on her - nope - look at NYT and Mannafort/Russia - why aren't they looking into Cheryl Mills and the Clinton Foundation?

And I don't recall saying anything about skewed polls - I helped out with some math in one particular poll that was over-represented, but I didn't bring the topic up.

"how bad the economy is"?

He could talk about that, but it would fall pretty flat with a low unemployment rate, rising wages, and a stock market triple where it was when the last disastrous Republican president handed the reins to a Democrat.

http://www.pensitoreview.com/Wordpress/wp-content/themes/mimbo2.2/images/chart-job-growth-bush-obama.jpg

http://www.motherjones.com/files/blog_krugman_employment_bush_obama.jpg

http://theprogressivelatino.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/DOL-Feb-15-Jobs-rpt.png

There are arguments to be made on both sides of that, which means they will wash each other out as an election issue.

hitmanyr2k

08-16-2016, 12:27 PM

"how bad the economy is"?

He could talk about that, but it would fall pretty flat with a low unemployment rate, rising wages, and a stock market triple where it was when the last disastrous Republican president handed the reins to a Democrat.

There are arguments to be made on both sides of that, which means they will wash each other out as an election issue.

Imagine how much better it could have been if we didn't have a shit Congress throughout those years screwing around trying to sabotage economic growth with manufactured crisis after manufactured crisis in an effort to take back power.

Splits

08-16-2016, 12:31 PM

765011506186579970

Ivanka and Putin's bitch vacationing together :lmao

hater

08-16-2016, 12:33 PM

Had American citizens and Russia not saved Odumbos ass wed be talking about ISIS capital being in Damascus and Israel waging a full scale war in the area and taking over 1/3 of Syria. And our economy would be complete shit

Obomber and co basically dodged a bullet by pure luck :lol

hater

08-16-2016, 12:34 PM

765011506186579970

Ivanka and Putin's bitch vacationing together :lmao

You mean Ivanka and Putins gf?

We all know Putins bitch is Barrack Obummo

boutons_deux

08-16-2016, 12:42 PM

Donald Trump’s Campaign Manager Worked for Warlords, Arms-Dealers and Dictators

Paul Manafort doesn’t care who writes his checks

Even the most brutal dictators and the bloodiest warlords could benefit from having a friendly public-relations operative in Washington. Access to high-ranking officials goes a long way in the nation’s capital.

There’s always somebody willing to take on the vilest of clients — and one of those somebodies is Paul Manafort, Donald Trump’s new campaign manager.

Manafort has worked on behalf of

an Angolan warlord,

a Lebanese arms-dealer,

the Pakistani spy agency that went on to create the Taliban,

the Putin-aligned president of Ukraine and

a who’s-who of 1980s dictators.

He helped enrich clients who left trails of death and destruction in their wakes.

https://warisboring.com/donald-trumps-campaign-manager-worked-for-warlords-arms-dealers-and-dictators-261626a143d8#.xvqv0wwda

Trash hires the shittiest people, Manafort, Katrina Pierson, and probably lots of other people in his dis-organization.

CosmicCowboy

08-16-2016, 12:48 PM

765011506186579970

Ivanka and Putin's bitch vacationing together :lmao

Please provide more than a twitter claim about Deng Murdoch dating Putin.

A credible link. Not some "rumor" from a gossip magazine.

clambake

08-16-2016, 01:09 PM

Please provide more than a twitter claim about Deng Murdoch dating Putin.

A credible link. Not some "rumor" from a gossip magazine.

they are the only reliable news source. haven't you seen men in black?

DMX7

08-16-2016, 01:31 PM

Trump supporters: How will you celebrate when he wins?

DMX7

08-16-2016, 01:34 PM

Mr. Trump has not tweeted in over 22 hours! I'm concerned. Is he ok?

clambake

08-16-2016, 01:36 PM

Mr. Trump has not tweeted in over 22 hours! I'm concerned. Is he ok?

have you ever seen moon over parador?

DMX7

08-16-2016, 02:08 PM

have you ever seen moon over parador?

No

rmt

08-16-2016, 02:32 PM

Mr. Trump has not tweeted in over 22 hours! I'm concerned. Is he ok?

This is a good thing - keeps him out of trouble.

clambake

08-16-2016, 02:34 PM

No

he may be hanging in a meat locker.

Spurminator

08-16-2016, 03:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MubunsD-7g

DarrinS

08-16-2016, 04:01 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MubunsD-7g

That can't be real. I have no proof, but I'm gonna call fake on that one.

Spurminator

08-16-2016, 04:05 PM

That can't be real. I have no proof, but I'm gonna call fake on that one.

I'm guessing most of the participants were playing along to some extent. Looks like some of them weren't even around anymore by the end. I just thought the commercials were funny.

DMX7

08-16-2016, 05:10 PM

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Splits

08-16-2016, 05:19 PM

765629939811020802

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FuzzyLumpkins

08-16-2016, 05:56 PM

Pardon me, if I don't think that 0.8 and 1.2 GDP in the last 2 quarters is as great as you do. Go ahead and believe that unemployment is dropping when people have just given up. How do you explain the labor participation rate? Do you really think that everyone who wants a job has one and hasn't just given up (or aren't working 2 or 3 part times ones)?

You are the one who isn't paying attention. What does the FBI have to do with this? I was talking about the media (specifically about NYT) and how they cover Trump as opposed to Hillary. I know it's not free stuff - but isn't it being sold as "free" and that we're gonna tax those evil rich people and corporations to pay for it. But guess what, it's those evil rich people and corporations who create jobs - jobs that we so desperately need. And if you tax them severely to pay for healthcare, college tuition, parental leave, etc - do you think they are going to invest in new equipment to improve worker productivity, create new jobs, etc?

And we'll just have to disagree on whether the government can do infrastructure, healthcare, education and transit as cheaply/efficiently as the private sector. Look at this mess we're in with Obamacare when yes, Obama and the democrats, do something about healthcare. Soon the premiums/deductibles/copays will be so high that the young and middle class will not be able to afford it, will drop out and then instead of poor people being the ones without health care, it'll be the young and middle class who'll still be helping to fund it with their penalties and getting nothing in return. All those billions wasting on the website, advertising, help desk, operators, etc could have gone to helping those with major health problems and left the rest of the country able to buy what they want/need (mostly catastrophic insurance to cover major incidents) instead of coverage we don't want or need.

Explosive growth is not sustainable. It is why there have been bubbles that have burst in increasingly devastating fashion for each of the last 3 decades.

What about Trump is not being covered? The problem is that they Trump campaign has no money because he pissed off his party's money people just like he did the US banks that won't give him a line of credit. No money no exposure. perhaps this will get conservatives' heads out of their asses regarding citizen united.

FuzzyLumpkins

08-16-2016, 06:01 PM

hitmanyr2k

08-16-2016, 06:13 PM

Explosive growth is not sustainable. It is why there have been bubbles that have burst in increasingly devastating fashion for each of the last 3 decades.

What about Trump is not being covered? The problem is that they Trump campaign has no money because he pissed off his party's money people just like he did the US banks that won't give him a line of credit. No money no exposure. perhaps this will get conservatives' heads out of their asses regarding citizen united.

I still find it hard to believe GOP supporters were stupid enough to choose Trump as their nominee. They were playing the short game and not the long game. How in their right mind did they think Trump's bullshit was going to work in the general election? Kasich should have been their guy even if he had Ohio's Medicaid expansion hanging around his neck taking away his "extreme" card. Out of all of the GOP candidates he's the one who would be absolutely cleaning Hillary's clock right now in the general election. He's a straight shooter type, has a good temperament and I think independents would probably like that he compromised and expanded Medicaid in his state. Ohio would have been off the table for Democrats since he's popular. He probably could have stolen quite a few Bernie holdouts as well. And unlike Trump I don't think Kasich would be doing or saying anything batshit stupid to overshadow all of Hillary's e-mail issues so the news cycle would have been all about her trustworthy problems.

FuzzyLumpkins

08-16-2016, 06:40 PM

I still find it hard to believe GOP supporters were stupid enough to choose Trump as their nominee. They were playing the short game and not the long game. How in their right mind did they think Trump's bullshit was going to work in the general election? Kasich should have been their guy even if he had Ohio's Medicaid expansion hanging around his neck taking away his "extreme" card. Out of all of the GOP candidates he's the one who would be absolutely cleaning Hillary's clock right now in the general election. He's a straight shooter type, has a good temperament and I think independents would probably like that he compromised and expanded Medicaid in his state. Ohio would have been off the table for Democrats since he's popular. He probably could have stolen quite a few Bernie holdouts as well. And unlike Trump I don't think Kasich would be doing or saying anything batshit stupid to overshadow all of Hillary's e-mail issues so the news cycle would have been all about her trustworthy problems.

I'm not surprised that the GOP electorate bought into it. They take things on faith and ate up hearing what they wanted to hear. You're right that it's stupid but that is besides the point. Faith makes you stupid.

Trump doesn't surprise me either. He's a classic narcissist and it's not enough for him to win. He wants to be the center of it all and it chafes for him to see anyone else dominating the news cycle. It's not like he has impulse control.

boutons_deux

08-16-2016, 06:58 PM

Marco Rubio’s line on Trump still needs work

http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/styles/ratio--3-2--1_5x-1245x830/public/ap_732046061428_copy.jpg?itok=fMT45nyb

The comments generally aren’t sincere, but it’s the script candidates read, not only in the name of party unity, but also to help justify a post-primary endorsement.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) may not (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/marco-rubio/article95752532.html) fully understand this.

In the heat of the Republican presidential primary, Marco Rubio called Donald Trump a “con man.” And he doesn’t take it back. “I’ve stood by everything I ever said in my campaign,” Rubio told the Miami Herald editorial board Monday.

But Rubio still supports Trump for president.

During the race for the Republican presidential nomination, Rubio was quite candid in his condemnations of Trump.

The Floridian referred to Trump as a “lunatic” and a “con man.”

Rubio’s campaign, quite literally, sold #NeverTrump swag (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/will-party-trump-principle-marco-rubio) on its website.

The senator told audiences that Trump might urinate on himself, mocked Trump’s hair and face, and even made vulgar jokes about Trump’s genitals.

In one especially memorable moment, Rubio insisted Trump cannot be trusted with the nation’s nuclear codes (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/10/marco_rubio_will_support_trump_but_still_doesn_t_t hink_he_should_have_nuclear.html).

The GOP senator has had multiple opportunities to walk all of this back, and chalk it up to overheated campaign rhetoric, but Rubio doesn’t want to do that. On the contrary, he keeps saying that he “stands by everything” he said while condemning Trump’s fitness for office.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/marco-rubios-line-trump-still-needs-work?cid=sm_fb_maddow

:lol

Th'Pusher

08-16-2016, 07:26 PM

Pardon me, if I don't want to go down the road that the other industrialized countries are going - overrun with migrants, very susceptible to terrorism, negative interest rates, huge pension and retiree obligations, etc.

I wasn't suggesting we need to "go down the road that other industrialized countries are going". the point was, when looking at GDP growth as a performance indicator, a person who applied critical thinking skills would analyze it a a macro level. How is the US GDP growth rate as compared to other industrialized nations.

I guess you'd rather hear from the democrats how rosy the economy is instead of the doom and gloom from the GOP/Trump.

I don't think the Democrats are suggesting the economy is rosy. They're simply pointing to real progress and proposing new policy to continue/speed up the progress that's been made.

You can go ahead and believe the promises that Hillary is spouting - believe that we can have "free" healthcare, college tuition and parental leave. I'll continue to believe that we can't even afford what we already have - SS, Medicare, Medicaid and servicing our $19.4+ trillion debt.

If you believe that we can't even afford what we already have why are you voting for a candidate that is proposing across the board tax cut that every non-partisan economist agrees will increase federal deficits and national debt over the next decade.

Splits

08-16-2016, 07:51 PM

I wasn't suggesting we need to "go down the road that other industrialized countries are going". the point was, when looking at GDP growth as a performance indicator, a person who applied critical thinking skills would analyze it a a macro level. How is the US GDP growth rate as compared to other industrialized nations.

I don't think the Democrats are suggesting the economy is rosy. They're simply pointing to real progress and proposing new policy to continue/speed up the progress that's been made.

If you believe that we can't even afford what we already have why are you voting for a candidate that is proposing across the board tax cut that every non-partisan economist agrees will increase federal deficits and national debt over the next decade.

:lmao engaging this fool like she has an ability to comprehend facts or an alternative point of view

I don't know how you do it. I read her posts and my head spins, "where to possibly begin"? So much delusion encapsulated into every response its a full time job to fact check stupidity times 11venty million.

Reck

08-16-2016, 09:23 PM

:lol Trying trying to flip the script.

Pandering to the black community and calling Hillary a bigot. :lol

boutons_deux

08-16-2016, 09:25 PM

Serb Who Inspired Ethnic Cleansing of Bosnia Leads “Vote Trump” Rally in Belgrade (https://theintercept.com/2016/08/16/serb-inspired-ethnic-cleansing-bosnia-leads-vote-trump-rally-belgrade/)

The activists, led by the head of Serbia’s ultranationalist Radical Party, Vojislav Seselj, chanted “Donald Trump!” and marched outside the country’s Parliament wearing t-shirts bearing the name and likeness of the American candidate.

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/16/serb-inspired-ethnic-cleansing-bosnia-leads-vote-trump-rally-belgrade/

Racist, bigoted, xenophobic Trash attracts trash

Pelicans78

08-16-2016, 09:34 PM

:lol Trying trying to flip the script.

Pandering to the black community and calling Hillary a bigot. :lol

It's actually a very good speech tonight. Too bad he waited so long to produce like this.

Shastafarian

08-16-2016, 09:41 PM

Yeah, it's real funny how a flaming faggot like Bonnerific can twist my statement that I would have fucked a hot female teacher in high school given the opportunity into participating in his fucked up fantasy world of hunting little boys.

lol Not sure how defending an admitted child molester turned into, "I'd fuck a hot teacher".

Reck

08-16-2016, 09:42 PM

It's actually a very good speech tonight. Too bad he waited so long to produce like this.

How can this be any good? Its a replica of what he said in his convention.

Not only is this riddled with lies, it is full of nonsensical shit. I will be your fighter. Only I can do it.

Also dipping into light sexism. Doesn't have the physical stamina. :lol

Shastafarian

08-16-2016, 09:44 PM

Pardon me, if I don't want to go down the road that the other industrialized countries are going - overrun with migrants, very susceptible to terrorism, negative interest rates, huge pension and retiree obligations, etc.

I'll ignore the other bullshit you posted here and focus on this. I knew you were heartless but this just proves it. They're refugees and the bigots keep trying to push the word "migrant" to make it seem like they aren't fleeing for their lives. Typical heartless GOP bullshit.

Reck

08-16-2016, 09:45 PM

Pelicans78

08-16-2016, 09:48 PM

How can this be any good? Its a replica of what he said in his convention.

Not only is this riddled with lies, it is full of nonsensical shit. I will be your fighter. Only I can do it.

Also dipping into light sexism. Doesn't have the physical stamina. :lol

The physical stamina part was dumb.

But he had a broader message than at the convention and his attacks on her were pretty much spot on with how she governed and what she represents. Plus, it's what he had to say even though it's probably too late.

Reck

08-16-2016, 09:54 PM

But he had a broader message than at the convention and his attacks on her were pretty much spot on with how she governed and what she represents. Plus, it's what he had to say even though it's probably too late.

True.

Also it would help if you held the rally at an actual county that is predominantly black. I heard a commentator say that where he gave the rally was an all white district with only 1% of African American.

Might also help to have a blacks only crowd...if he could even get 10 of them to go to his rallies.

Pelicans78

08-16-2016, 10:08 PM

True.

Also it would help if you held the rally at an actual county that is predominantly black. I heard a commentator say that where he gave the rally was an all white district with only 1% of African American.

Might also help to have a blacks only crowd...if he could even get 10 of them to go to his rallies.

That joker would be too afraid to go to such a crowd. He knows better :lol

CosmicCowboy

08-16-2016, 10:12 PM

I'll ignore the other bullshit you posted here and focus on this. I knew you were heartless but this just proves it. They're refugees and the bigots keep trying to push the word "migrant" to make it seem like they aren't fleeing for their lives. Typical heartless GOP bullshit.

fleeing for their lives...:lmao

The majority that flood over the southern border are coming for economic reasons.

CosmicCowboy

08-16-2016, 10:16 PM

lol Not sure how defending an admitted child molester turned into, "I'd fuck a hot teacher".

And that's a lie too. I never defended a child molester. EVER.

Did I say I played sports from junior high to college and and would have NEVER let a coach suck my dick? yes I did.

Hate me for being an articulate conservative but cut it out with the stupid pedo bullshit. It's just not true.

Shastafarian

08-16-2016, 11:54 PM

fleeing for their lives...:lmao

The majority that flood over the southern border are coming for economic reasons.What southern border? You're so brainwashed you think people fleeing Iraq and Syria aren't fleeing because they fear for their lives? :rollin

And that's a lie too. I never defended a child molester. EVER.

Did I say I played sports from junior high to college and and would have NEVER let a coach suck my dick? yes I did.

Hate me for being an articulate conservative but cut it out with the stupid pedo bullshit. It's just not true.It's absolutely true. By implying Hastert wasn't 100% at fault ("I would never let a coach do this"), you're defending him. You're actually just too fucking stupid to understand this. Pedo-Bridage! lol defended and CONTINUES to defend a child molester.

CosmicCowboy

08-17-2016, 06:25 AM

So what you're saying is that you only do the sucking? You are a true bottom.

I can see why you hate yourself. Just stop taking it out on innocent children.

Faggot is back with his pedo fantasy bullshit again. That shit is only funny with your circle jerk faggot buddies in here.

boutons_deux

08-17-2016, 06:27 AM

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13912800_1049793448408834_477751766049843992_n.png ?oh=b320b6b2eba2a1a34755cf00e97d15af&oe=5851A8F1

... and he really doesn't want to be President.

CosmicCowboy

08-17-2016, 06:31 AM

What southern border? You're so brainwashed you think people fleeing Iraq and Syria aren't fleeing because they fear for their lives? :rollin

It's absolutely true. By implying Hastert wasn't 100% at fault ("I would never let a coach do this"), you're defending him. You're actually just too fucking stupid to understand this. Pedo-Bridage! lol defended and CONTINUES to defend a child molester.

Did a coach molest you?

Shit. Again, Hastert belongs in Jail. Period. He should have never hit on the teenage athletes. Ever. I'm glad he is going to jail. I am not now and never did defend his actions.

I'm not fighting this battle again. If you weak little Betas would have let Hastert suck your cock that's on you, not me.

boutons_deux

08-17-2016, 07:15 AM

Trump campaign undergoes (another) major staff shake-up

In April, in the face of broad criticisms about his campaign’s direction, Donald Trump shook up (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/team-trump-takes-big-risk-staff-shakeup) his leadership team and implemented a “massive restructuring (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trump-campaign-undergoes-major-reorganization-amid-delegate-fight).”

Two months later, in June, the Republican presidential candidate made another major staffing change (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/donald-trump-ousts-campaign-manager-corey-lewandowski), ousting campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.

And now, two months after that, facing long odds of success, Team Trump is once again undergoing an overhaul (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-hands-kellyanne-conway-stephen-bannon-new-roles-campaign-n632471).

Donald Trump is shaking up his campaign’s leadership amid flagging poll numbers, NBC News has learned.

Kellyanne Conway – already a senior adviser to the campaign – told NBC News she has been promoted to the role of campaign manager.

She confirmed that Paul Manafort will stay on as campaign chair but said Stephen Bannon, the co-founder of conservative Breitbart News, :lol will come on board as campaign CEO.

The Wall Street Journal, which first reported the staffing changes, said (http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-overhauls-campaign-team-1471424401) Manafort will stay on, though his power will clearly be diminished.

The Washington Post’s report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/17/trump-reshuffles-staff-in-his-own-image/) added, “Trump’s stunning decision effectively ended the months-long push by campaign chairman Paul Manafort to moderate Trump’s presentation and pitch for the general election.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-campaign-undergoes-another-major-staff-shake?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Arranging deckchairs on the Titanic while Trump blows holes in the hull daily :lol

TheGreatYacht

08-17-2016, 07:51 AM

He's hired Breitbart CEO to run his campaign :lmao
Splits

Reck

08-17-2016, 07:54 AM

He's hired Breitbart CEO to run his campaign :lmao
Splits (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24583)

Getting advices from women stalker/wannabe rapist Roger Ailes. :lol

Reck

08-17-2016, 08:12 AM

Also adding Roger Stone to his campaign. :lmao

Manafort
Roger Ailes
Roger Stone
Stephen Bannon (Exec chairman of breitbart)

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH :lmao

Splits

08-17-2016, 08:34 AM

:lmao holy shit. Br:lolitb:lolrt as "campaign CEO"? Were they not getting enough out of the uneducated racist white guy demo? Who's next, Alex Jones?

Reck

08-17-2016, 09:12 AM

rmt Your thoughts on this?

Spurminator

08-17-2016, 09:20 AM

Every day this looks more and more like the creation of a media and business empire than a Presidential campaign.

Spurminator

08-17-2016, 09:31 AM

Hopefully they all go down together. But the Breitbarts of the world are built on stupid readers, and stupid readers aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

CosmicCowboy

08-17-2016, 09:36 AM

http://www.combatreform.org/R_Crash3_MiG-29.jpg

Reck

08-17-2016, 09:40 AM

http://www.combatreform.org/R_Crash3_MiG-29.jpg

So you're actually being objective for once.

CosmicCowboy

08-17-2016, 09:48 AM

So you're actually being objective for once.

You have me confused with someone else. I despise Hillary but I'm not crazy about trump either.

TheGreatYacht

08-17-2016, 09:51 AM

Retard isn't going to see anything wrong with it. That ignorant racist piece of shit takes her thinking orders from them.

The best part, sarcasm, is that she's so mentally and spiritually worthless, she thinks they're so smart she vomits up what they tell her on here. Reality is she is an ugly racist person who deems people of color, and the poor, as inferior even though they are smarter than she is. So these sites feed into her false feelings of superiority, along with the bullshit "Christianity" fed to her by other snake oil salesmen.

The result is the stupidest person in the history of this site, and that's saying something when you have something like hater and ducks.
Bold this man Bonnerific

CosmicCowboy

08-17-2016, 10:00 AM

Wow. That went over your face like a 7 year old's balls.

Guess you would know how that feels, faggot. You are the forum expert in that fantasy.

:lmao @ BetaBonnerific

Splits

08-17-2016, 10:13 AM

Bold this man Bonnerific (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=25588)

Splits

08-17-2016, 10:16 AM

Every day this looks more and more like the creation of a media and business empire than a Presidential campaign.

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Fabbs

08-17-2016, 10:30 AM

Clinton may be sleaze when it comes to business cover ups. Donald is right there with her.
I was intrigued by Trash when he 1st started running. Hearing the details of Trump University and now his ongoing dalliances with Fat Bastard....
Pretty sure the Clinton attack ads are gonna be featuring some of this:

Trump Casinos’ Tax Debt Was $30 Million. Then Chris Christie Took Office.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-casinos%E2%80%99-tax-debt-was-dollar30-million-then-chris-christie-took-office/ar-BBvHIH3?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Some cliffs: Trash spouts about how "we" (US taxpayers) are getting ripped by Mexico and China.
How did the taxpayers of New Jersey fair with Trash and the 30 million his casinos owed?

But the year after Governor Christie, a Republican, took office, the tone of the litigation shifted. The state entertained settlement offers. And in December 2011, after six years in court, the state agreed to accept just $5 million, roughly 17 cents on the dollar of what auditors said the casinos owed.

The Times discovered the agreement during a review of the thousands of documents filed in the bankruptcies of Mr. Trump’s casinos. The taxes went unpaid from 2002 through 2006, during which time Mr. Trump was leading the company as chairman and, until 2005, as its chief executive. He reaped millions of dollars in fees and bonuses from the company, even as it underperformed competitors, lost money every year and saw its stock collapse.

After the Trump casinos filed for bankruptcy protection in 2004 for the third time, state officials noticed the company had not been filling out the required schedule for the minimum tax assessment. The Trump casinos had reported losing money and paid a little more than $600,000 in state income taxes in 2002, and only $1,500 in 2003. State auditors determined the Trump casinos should have paid $8.8 million in alternative minimum taxes for those two years, according to court records.