Church of Trump

[boutons_deux]

‘Clean my hotel room, b*tch': More Trump fans caught making racist remarks at Latinos


Donald Trump supporters unabashedly insulted a group of Latino protesters during the presidential candidate’s rally in Dallas, Texas, Politico reported. (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-2016-dallas-megarally-213625)

“The Mexicans are the hairs of a*sholes. Viva Donald Trump,” one 30-year-old woman reportedly said in both English and Spanish. The woman, who identified herself only as “Jackie,” also told one demonstrator, “Clean my hotel room, b*tch.”

The remarks came in response to the demonstrators challenging attendees in line by saying, “Raise your hand, racists.” According to Politico, the protesters also had pictures depicting Trump in Nazi apparel.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/clean-my-hotel-room-btch-more-trump-fans-caught-making-racist-remarks-at-latinos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[DMX7]

‘Clean my hotel room, b*tch': More Trump fans caught making racist remarks at Latinos


Donald Trump supporters unabashedly insulted a group of Latino protesters during the presidential candidate’s rally in Dallas, Texas, Politico reported. (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-2016-dallas-megarally-213625)

“The Mexicans are the hairs of a*sholes. Viva Donald Trump,” one 30-year-old woman reportedly said in both English and Spanish. The woman, who identified herself only as “Jackie,” also told one demonstrator, “Clean my hotel room, b*tch.”

The remarks came in response to the demonstrators challenging attendees in line by saying, “Raise your hand, racists.” According to Politico, the protesters also had pictures depicting Trump in Nazi apparel.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/clean-my-hotel-room-btch-more-trump-fans-caught-making-racist-remarks-at-latinos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

These people don't speak for Donald Trump. Stop your guilt by association tactics... heck, there isn't really even an association here either. They're just some far right loons.

[hater]

Lol anti trump protestors. Fucking bums.

They don't have a leader to root for so they just protest against a real leader.

[ducks]

white people tell their wifes bitches are the time to clean their stuff

[boutons_deux]

These people don't speak for Donald Trump. Stop your guilt by association tactics... heck, there isn't really even an association here either. They're just some far right loons.

Trump's white nationalism, nativism, racism are fundamental to Repug platform to attract, hold their far right base of low-info, low-education, low-salary loons. Trump's difference is that he's not dog whistling code words, he's singing out loud and right on key.

[boutons_deux]

the Repug/conservative "long knives" are being unsheathed.

Conservatives Slam Trump Over Support for Eminent Domain

The policy has allowed the real estate mogul to profit hugely.

GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump has taken fire from the right for his lack of foreign policy experience, his immigration proposals, and his apparent eagerness to insult women. Now a conservative free enterprise advocacy group has attacked him for his views on a more esoteric subject: eminent domain, long held up by conservatives as an example of government overreach.

The Club for Growth launched a $1 million ad buy (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/conservative-club-for-growth-launches-1-million-anti-donald-trump-campaign/) in Iowa this week that in part attacks the real estate mogul on his support for the practice in which the government is able to take private property for public use."Trump supports eminent domain abuse," the ad says. "Because he can make millions while we lose our property rights."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/trump-eminent-domain-attacks-right

[hater]

The Donald's once again kicked ass all over the place.

The best thing to happen to his campaign is that a guy called Jeb Bush is running against him :lmao

[CavsSuperFan]

Tony Clifton for President!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKOpSP5UMAE8os_.jpg

[DMX7]

He was amazing again last night, but I was disappointing that he backed down from Carly when the "face" comment came up. I hope it doesn't become a trend.

[boutons_deux]

He was amazing again last night, but I was disappointing that he backed down from Carly when the "face" comment came up. I hope it doesn't become a trend.

He's amazingly BAD as candidate, bad for America.

In fact, he's a klown farce of distraction that has deflated all 4 wheels of the Repug Klown Kar.

Trump demonstrates without any doubt the Repugs actually HATE governing, HATE govt, and HATE America's 99%.

[hater]

Shillary is way worse as a candidate and human. So is shiden

[DMX7]

He's amazingly BAD as candidate, bad for America.

In fact, he's a klown farce of distraction that has deflated all 4 wheels of the Repug Klown Kar.

Trump demonstrates without any doubt the Repugs actually HATE governing, HATE govt, and HATE America's 99%.

He's going to do great -- no, amazing things -- for this country! Like you wouldn't believe!!! If you wanna know the truth.

[boutons_deux]

He's going to do great -- no, amazing things -- for this country! Like you wouldn't believe!!! If you wanna know the truth.

The last thing, if ever, we get from rightwingnuts' fantasy universe is the truth

[DMX7]

Old Trump interview on Iraq War during Bush Administration.

Very solid analysis

eAVYjIfU3eA

[Splits]

https://vine.co/v/eU59mHr0b5P

[Quetzal-X]

What a global joke the usa is for allowing this klown anywhere near a pres election .

WWE crowd eats it up as usual.

[Splits]

The Donald's once again kicked ass all over the place.

The best thing to happen to his campaign is that a guy called Jeb Bush is running against him :lmao

http://i.imgur.com/Zph9tPE.gif

[pgardn]

He was amazing again last night, but I was disappointing that he backed down from Carly when the "face" comment came up. I hope it doesn't become a trend.

She calmly slapped the shit out of him. It was funny.

[boutons_deux]

Influential Evangelical Leader Urges Christian Conservatives To Abandon Donald Trump


http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/09/17/3702936/russell-moore-donald-trump/

will the brainwashed, indoctrinated sheeple obey?

iow, Trump fails the evangelical test for office.

[boutons_deux]

Can GOP Party Bosses Rig the Rules to Keep Trump from Winning? You Bet!


If he's not beaten in the primaries, the party could toss those results.

Republican Party bosses could rig the arcane rules governing awarding delegates and convention votes to keep the nomination from Trump.

“I think they will eventually,” said Curly Haugland (https://gop.com/leaders/national-committeeman-curly-haugland-nd), a Republican National Committee member from North Dakota and longtime RNC Rules Committee member, in an interview before Wednesday’s presidential debate. “This process was set up for Bush or Walker to win—establishment guys.”

Though Haugland is one of 168 RNC members, he’s a maverick who’s been making the eyebrow-raising argument that the rules (https://s3.amazonaws.com/prod-static-ngop-pbl/docs/Rules_of_the_Republican+Party_FINAL_S14090314.pdf) governing the 2016 convention are filled with contradictions that nullify whatever occurs before the opening gavel hits the podium in Cleveland next July—including the primary season’s results. Convention delegates and nobody else, he says, get to choose the 2016 presidential ticket.

“Everybody is depending on these primary results, except it is all built on a house of cards, a fabricated reality,” he said. “Everybody wants to have a presumptive nominee. There’s hundreds of millions of dollars at stake to buy votes for primary elections. The votes they are buying are worthless. Nobody wants to hear that story.”

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/can-gop-party-bosses-rig-rules-keep-trump-winning-you-bet?akid=13485.187590.rt6KID&rd=1&src=newsletter1042591&t=2

[boutons_deux]

There’s one reason Trump stands out from the crowd of Republican candidates, even though they largely share his hostile opinions about women, immigrants and social progress generally: He is a loud-mouthed bully (http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/09/bullying-researcher-explains-donald-trump.html). More specifically, he’s the rich, white male bully who revels in his privilege and enjoys stomping on those with less unearned social power than he has. And the Republican base is eating it up.

It’s yet another sign of how much right-wing America, which has its own media and culture, is completely out of step with the rest of America.

While the rest of the country has moved toward an anti-bullying mentality — as evidenced by the anti-bully bent of pop culture — right-wing media has been teaching the opposite lesson, that to be a bully is to be manly and powerful.

Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Ann Coulter? Where the rest of us see belligerent, screaming bullies, conservatives see their own fantasies of who they want to be, people who are rich and snooty and who enjoy pissing off the liberals as sport. In many ways, the bully is an aspirational image for many conservatives, most of who will never be as rich or as powerful as the people they emulate.

http://www.alternet.org/why-america-fascinated-sneering-bullies-donald-trump

[CavsSuperFan]

boutons_deux-You do realize that if you do not vote for The Donald, in essence you are voting for war?

[boutons_deux]

boutons_deux-You do realize that if you do not vote for The Donald, in essence you are voting for war?

Nobody's gonna vote for Donny T, he won't be the nominee.

[CavsSuperFan]

Donald Trump will make our military so strong, so powerful that NOBODY will EVER mess with us again! USA USA USA USA

At the same time he will appoint Carl Icon & people who know how to negotiate, who will eliminate the USA trade deficit…

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/59789309.jpg

[DMX7]

Donald Trump will make our military so strong, so powerful that NOBODY will EVER mess with us again! USA USA USA USA

At the same time he will appoint Carl Icon & people who know how to negotiate, who will eliminate the USA trade deficit…

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/59789309.jpg

It's Carl Icahn, but I like your spelling better.

[Spurminator]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=155&v=RDrfE9I8_hs

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Second Amendment Position Papers Are a White Gun Fellator’s Wet Dream

The position paper, PROTECTING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN: Donald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights) tells us:


The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.


The problem is, that is not what the Second Amendment says at all and Trump proves again and again he did not actually read the Second Amendment before he wrote his position papers on it.There, the rest of us can plainly read:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.



Trump forgot about the “well regulated militia” being the reason for bearing arms. And forgetting about the militia means Trump misunderstands what those arms are for.

He goes on to claim:The Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental right that belongs to all law-abiding Americans. The Constitution doesn’t create that right – it ensures that the government can’t take it away. Our Founding Fathers knew, and our Supreme Court has upheld, that the Second Amendment’s purpose is to guarantee our right to defend ourselves and our families. This is about self-defense, plain and simple.

Plain and simple…no, not really plain and simple at all.

What is a militia Trump has ignored, you ask? Rather than going to a modern dictionary to see why they needed guns (in case the Second Amendment isn’t clear enough on that), let’s open up Samuel Johnson’s A Dictionary of the English Language (London, 1768):


MILITIA. F. [Latin] The train bands; the standing force of a nation

TRAINBANDS. F. The militia; the part of a community trained to martial exercise.

So the militia is the standing force of the nation. And in the absence of the Continental Army during the Revolution, the militia was precisely that, sometimes standing up to the British, sometimes melting away, taking their guns with them.It is important to note here that the Founding Fathers were suspicious of standing armies, so after the Revolution, we had a “well regulated militia” instead. This militia had its backsides handed to them by a Native American force at the Battle of the Wabash in 1791.

The United States Constitution, of course, was drafted in 1787 during the primacy of the militia, and ratified in 1788, both events occurring before President George Washington decided we needed an actual, professional army in 1792. So strictly speaking, the Second Amendment speaks to an era that had ceased to exist by 1792 with the establishment of Mad Anthony Wayne’s “Legion of the United States” (not renamed the United States Army until 1796).It is a shame the Founding Fathers did not bother to change the Second Amendment to reflect the new reality, that Americans no longer needed to be armed like an army because they no longer were an army.

Today, of course, we not only have a standing, active-duty army, but we have the Army Reserve and a new sort of militia, the National Guard.Needless to say, unlike 1776, we no longer have to carry our own weapons to National Guard training. The Army provides the weapons these days.

Technically speaking, the Second Amendment describes a reality that no longer prevails.The problem Trump has here is that he sees guns as a means of defending our homes against intruders, and that is not how guns are written into the United States Constitution. Communities in the 18th century would muster the able-bodied men with their weapons on the village green and drill like soldiers.



And they had to: they were the closet thing to Samuel Johnson’s standing army. But armies were never intended to control our own people, but to ward off outside enemies.

Donald Trump, on the other hand, wants to use guns to control crime.

Bernie Sanders wants fewer prisons, and to eliminate private prisons.

Donald Trump wants to throw more people into prison. And he makes a careful distinction (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights) between white folks with guns, who are okay in his book, and “other” people with guns, or “drug dealers and gang members” as he calls them.

We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals. The Obama administration’s record on that is abysmal. Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control. Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street. This needs to stop.

Then there are the “okay” people:Why does that matter to law-abiding gun owners? Because they’re the ones who anti-gun politicians and the media blame when criminals misuse guns.

Like the Oath Keepers aiming guns at federal officers?

That sort of non-violent?

Or offering to “protect” Kim Davis from re-arrest?

Or trying to intimidate a judge at his home by gathering outside, armed?

Or entering into government offices, armed, to intimidate lawmakers?

Those were all actions carried out by white people with guns.

Yet Trump believes no white man with a gun can be wrong,proposes (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights):

Empower law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves. Law enforcement is great, they do a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere all of the time. Our personal protection is ultimately up to us. That’s why I’m a gun owner, that’s why I have a concealed carry permit, and that’s why tens of millions of Americans have concealed carry permits as well. It’s just common sense. To make America great again, we’re going to go after criminals and put the law back on the side of the law-abiding.

Common sense tells Trump to turn a bunch of untrained yokels with guns, who as often as not shoot themselves or each other by accident, or are shot by their wives or children by accident because they leave their loaded weapons lying around, loose on criminals. Donald Trump thinks this is the answer to crime.Trump complains (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights)in his papers that “law-abiding gun owners…get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen,” but has no problem assigning group guilt to blacks or Mexicans or Muslims for the actions of a violent few.It’s just that in Trump’s white supremacist world, white folks with guns can do no wrong.

And Trump doesn’t want to confuse people with terms like “assault weapon” or “high capacity magazine”: he says (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights)“Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice.”

The old adage Keeping up with the Joneses just assumed a terrifying new dimension.Trump neither read nor understood the Second Amendment, but uses it as just an excuse for “law-abiding” (read: white) folks to lock and load while we clear everyone else off the streets, and oh, by the way,

that concealed carry permit should be valid in your neighborhood too, even if your community says no, because, you know, it’s a “right.”

Never mind the Second Amendment’s failure to mention “concealed carry,” because why would a militia conceal its weapons?

We need to thank Donald J. Trump for releasing his position papers on the Second Amendment. They are very…illuminating, to say the least. We now have a fuller understanding of Trump’s “us vs. them” world and how he intends to “manage” it.

White folks with guns are just protecting themselves and maintaining law and order. Other folks…well, there are always those prisons Republicans love so much.

Let’s see – Übermensch on the streets with guns. Untermenschen in the prisons. That’s Donald Trump’s America.Does that sound at all familiar to you? It should. Welcome to Germany, 1933.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/19/trumps-second-amendment-position-papers-dream.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[Clipper Nation]

Retarded article, especially when Godwin's Law kicked in at the end. I know libs aren't big on facts, but Hitler confiscated all firearms from Jews and political opponents. When the Nazis took over France, the French had to give up their guns too.

[ChumpDumper]

Which German Jews had guns by 1938 when the prohibition was passed?

[Winehole23]

gotta love CN dinging boutons for the argumentum ad Hitlerum, then immediately succumbing to his own.

[boutons_deux]

Seeking distance from Trump, California GOP loosens immigration stance

The California Republican Party voted Sunday to soften its stance on immigration, responding to harsh rhetoric from presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Republicans have been struggling to find a balance between appealing to the Golden State's growing Latino population and satisfying its base of white conservatives. The problem has grown more pressing with Trump, a New York real estate mogul, soaring to the top of the primary polls while advocating a crackdown on illegal immigration.

(http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-ln-california-republicans-soften-stance-on-immigrants-in-the-country-illegally-20150919-story.html)The changes say Republicans "hold diverse views" on "what to do with the millions of people who are currently here illegally." The wording of the amendment was tweaked after a Saturday committee meeting, which used the phrase "otherwise law-abiding folks" instead of "people."

Although the new language emphasizes opposition to "amnesty," it removes the statement that "allowing illegal immigrants to remain in California undermines respect for the law."

The changes were proposed by a Latino party official from Fresno, Marcelino Valdez, who said it was a reaction to Trump's "offensive" comments on immigrants.
It's important to use "language that is more appealing to California's diverse electorate," Valdez said.

In a statement after the vote, he called it "an anti-Proposition 187 plank," referring to the controversial 1994 ballot measure that would have prevented immigrants in the country illegally from receiving public services. It was invalidated by federal courts, but not before it helped drive Latinos away from the Republican Party.

http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-pc-california-republican-party-immigration-donald-trump-20150920-story.html

[DMX7]

Carl Icahn is going to do amazing things for this country as our Secretary of State. We are going to win again. I can't wait! :hat

[spurtech09]

If you would have to predict....who would be president for 2016?Any guesses on who will be the next President?

[Splits]

If you would have to predict....who would be president for 2016?Any guesses on who will be the next President?

No matter what it's going to suck, which is one reason I'm moving back overseas in a few years. But my money would be on Rubio vs. Clinton with Clinton winning.

[DMX7]

Another Trump critic bites the dust:

NY TIMES: Scott Walker Said to Be Quitting Presidential Race

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/21/scott-walker-said-to-be-quitting-presidential-race/?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

[spurtech09]

No matter what it's going to suck, which is one reason I'm moving back overseas in a few years. But my money would be on Rubio vs. Clinton with Clinton winning.At this point I have no clue who will be president...For all I know Obama could serve 3rd term by suspending the 2016..vote....who knows its a toss up....but Clinton could be president 2016

[ChumpDumper]

For all I know Obama could serve 3rd term by suspending the 2016..vote.You really don't know much of anything.

[spurtech09]

No matter what it's going to suck, which is one reason I'm moving back overseas in a few years. But my money would be on Rubio vs. Clinton with Clinton winning.where overseas?

[m>s]

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1442872066943.png

[spurtech09]

The chart says Trump is winning.....Do you think he will be president for 2016?

[m>s]

Yes, get used to addressing him as president trump

[Will Hunting]

:lol DarrinShit
:lol Cuckservative

[Splits]

where overseas?

Switzerland. Most likely Basel.

[boutons_deux]

What People Around the World Think of America After Trump's Bewildering Rise
http://www.alternet.org/what-people-around-world-think-america-after-trumps-bewildering-rise

[boutons_deux]

An Engineer Explains Why Trump’s Wall Is So Implausible

TRUMP: Very easy. I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings that are — can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?

The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.

In order to adequately answer Mr. Ramos’ question, let’s first make some assumptions on the project’s scope: A successful border wall must be effective, cheap, and easily maintained. It should be built from readily available materials and should take advantage of the capabilities of the existing labor force. The wall should reach about five feet underground to deter tunneling, and should terminate about 20 feet above grade to deter climbing.

If we assume a border wall length of 1,954 miles (there are 600 or so miles of existing border barrier, but much of this would not qualify for Trump’s wall), then we can make some estimates as to the volume of concrete needed for the project:



Foundation: 6 feet deep, 18 inch radius = 42.4 cubic feet
Column: 4 square feet area by 30 feet tall = 120 cubic feet
Wall panels: 25 feet tall by 10 feet long by 8 inches thick = 166.7 cubic feet
Total concrete per 10 foot segment = 329.1 cubic feet
1,954 miles = 10,300,00 feet = 1,030,000 segments (10-feet long each)
1,030,000 segments * 329.1 cubic feet per segment = 339,000,000 cubic feet = 12,555,000 cubic yards. (The cubic yard is the standard unit of measure of concrete volume in the United States.)


Twelve million, six hundred thousand cubic yards. In other words, this wall would contain over three times the amount of concrete used to build the Hoover Dam

Such a wall would be greater in volume than all six pyramids of the Giza Necropolis — and it is unlikely that a concrete slab in the town of Dead Dog Valley, Texas would inspire the same timeless sense of wonder.

Concrete, of course, requires reinforcing steel (or rebar). A reasonable estimate for the amount of rebar would be about 3 percent of the total wall size, resulting in a steel volume of 10,190,000 cubic feet, or about 5 billion pounds. We could melt down 4 of our Nimitz-class aircraft carriers and would probably be a few cruisers short of having enough steel.

This analysis also ignores the less sexy aspects of large-scale engineering projects: surveying, land acquisition, environmental review, geological studies, maintenance, excavating for foundations, and so on. Theoretical President Trump may be able to executive-order his way through the laser grid of lawsuits that normally impede this kind of work, but he can’t ignore the physical realities of construction.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/an-engineer-explains-why-trumps-wall-is-so-implausible/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning%20Memo%20-%202015-09-22&utm_term=MM_frequency_six

iow, Donny T is a bullshitting conman.

[hater]

If you build it they wont come.

[CosmicCowboy]

who says it has to be built of concrete?

[boutons_deux]

who says it has to be built of concrete?

what would you build it with? the article addresses alternatives

[DMX7]

If the Chinese could do it centuries ago, we can do it now. All we need is the will to do it.

[hater]

If you let Mexicans build it. They will come. But then they should leave.

[boutons_deux]

If the Chinese could do it centuries ago, we can do it now. All we need is the will to do it.

chinese, romans, etc all built with 10Ks of slave and/or forced labor.

"will to do it" with whose $Ts, are you "will"ing to pay to build AND maintain it forever?

Damn, you rightwingnuts are fucking stupid.

[DMX7]

chinese, romans, etc all built with 10Ks of slave and/or forced labor.

"will to do it" with whose $Ts, are you "will"ing to pay to build AND maintain it forever?

Damn, you rightwingnuts are fucking stupid.

The Mexicans will be pay for it!

And if you wanna know the truth, the cost of not building the wall would far exceed the cost of maintaining it.

[boutons_deux]

Let's Be Real: Donald Trump Doesn't Really Want To Be President

I do not believe that Donald Trump really wants to be president.

In fact, behind all that arrogance and bravado, Trump is incredibly insecure and knows he's not prepared for the job. Nobody who talks so excessively about how rich, smart and lovable he is really believes it.

I doubt Trump is very self-reflective, but even he knows he's way over his head, and he's more surprised than anyone that he's doing so well among Republican voters in the polls.

Trump jumped into the race as a lark, to feed his ego, and his campaign took off far beyond his own expectations. He's milking it now, because he loves the attention, but he's also scared shitless that he might actually win the GOP nomination.

At that point, his ignorance will be even more exposed than it is now.

He won't be able to improvise his policy ideas on a day-by-day basis.

And if it gets to the point where he has to debate Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden, he will collapse.

Even more than now, he'll become a laughing stock.

Trump doesn't have the patience, temperament, self-discipline or interest in policy issues that it takes to be president, and, deep inside, he knows it.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/donald-trump-does-not-want-to-be-president?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

The IMPORTANCE of DONALD TRUMP

Far from destroying our democracy, he’s exposing all its phoniness and corruption in ways as serious as he is not. And changing it in the process.

There is indeed a lighter way to look at Trump’s rise and his impact on the country. Far from being an apocalyptic harbinger of the end-times, it’s possible that his buffoonery poses no lasting danger. Quite the contrary: His unexpected monopoly of center stage may well be the best thing to happen to our politics since the arrival of Barack Obama.

In the short time since Trump declared his candidacy, he has performed a public service by

exposing, however crudely and at times inadvertently, the posturings of both the Republicans and the Democrats and the foolishness and obsolescence of much of the political culture they share. He is, as many say, making a mockery of the entire political process with his bull-in-a-china-shop antics. But the mockery in this case may be overdue,

highly warranted, and ultimately a spur to reform rather than the crime against civic order that has scandalized those who see him, in the words of the former George W. Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson, as “dangerous to democracy (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-gop-led-by-donald-trump-will-fail-and-deserve-it/2015/07/30/614b173c-36f6-11e5-b673-1df005a0fb28_story.html).”

Trump may be injecting American democracy with steroids. No one, after all, is arguing that the debates among the GOP presidential contenders would be drawing remotely their Game of Thrones-scale audiences if the marquee stars were Jeb Bush and Scott Walker. When most of the field — minus Trump — appeared ahead of the first debate at a New Hampshire forum broadcast on C-SPAN, it caused little more stir than a soporific pageant of congressional backbenchers (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/04/us/politics/confrontation-is-avoided-in-forum-for-republican-presidential-candidates.html) addressing the empty floor of the House. Without Trump, even a relatively tame Trump, would anyone have sat through even a third of the three-hour-plus trainwreck that CNN passed off as the second debate?

What has made him more entertaining than his peers is not his superficial similarities to any historical analogues or his shopworn celebrity. His passport to political stardom has been his uncanny resemblance to a provocative fictional comic archetype that has been an invigorating staple of American movies since Vietnam and Watergate ushered in wholesale disillusionment with Washington four decades ago. That character is a direct descendant of Twain’s 19th-century confidence men:

the unhinged charlatan who decides to blow up the system by running for office — often the presidency — on a platform of outrageous pronouncements and boorish behavior.

Trump has taken that role, the antithesis of the idealist politicians enshrined by Frank Capra and Aaron Sorkin, and run with it.

He bestrides our current political landscape like the reincarnation not of Joe McCarthy (that would be Ted Cruz) but of Jay Billington Bulworth.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/frank-rich-in-praise-of-donald-trump.html#

[DMX7]

I wish so badly that someone would make a sequel to Triumph of the Will starring Donald Trump. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Very Very Revealing

I'm not sure how much play this will get.

But this poll tells you a lot about the candidacies of Donald Trump and Jeb Bush (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/public-policy-polling-iowa-september).

A new PPP polls shows Trump, not surprisingly, at the head of the GOP pack. But when PPP created head to head match ups with the other contenders, Carson, Fiorina, Rubio and Walker all beat Trump and in most cases handily.

Except Jeb.

Trump beat Jeb.

So Trump really isn't that strong.

He's just got a committed following that holds the ground in a crowded field.

Another way of putting it is that as big a plurality as Trump has, the bigger deal is the majority that is clearly against him.

Meanwhile, Jeb is weak and nobody likes him.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/very-very-revealing?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

the govt cannot place a "religious test for office", but voters sure can.

Sooner or later, the nutty evangelical Christian Taliban will push Trump, "test" him, on his religiosity, and find that it's absent.

[Splits]

I guess they're all in DC at the Pope's mass...

646745003461603328

[DMX7]

I guess they're all in DC at the Pope's mass...

646745003461603328

There's not much new being said by him, at least not at the moment. He is just biding his time until the election.

Then once he wins, he will do what we all know needs to be done.

[ChumpDumper]

I guess they're all in DC at the Pope's mass...

646745003461603328O'Reilly is behind this.

Doesn't matter -- it's going to be great.

[hater]

Wish we could just fast forward to 2017 when trump is the oval office kicking ass and taking names.

[Clipper Nation]

I guess they're all in DC at the Pope's mass...

646745003461603328
Democratic presidential hopeful Senator Bernie Sanders spoke Saturday to a half-empty gymnasium at Benedict College in South Carolina. The school is historically black, but the crowd appeared to be largely white.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/14/opinion/charles-m-blow-bernie-sanders-and-the-black-vote.html?_r=0

Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke in Columbia, S.C., on Wednesday with African-American women and others who own small businesses... She still has a ways to go in generating enthusiasm, to judge from the empty seats in the room.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-in-south-carolina-reminds-black-women-of-her-support-for-obama.html

[ChumpDumper]

Democratic presidential hopeful Senator Bernie Sanders spoke Saturday to a half-empty gymnasium at Benedict College in South Carolina. The school is historically black, but the crowd appeared to be largely white.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/14/opinion/charles-m-blow-bernie-sanders-and-the-black-vote.html?_r=0

Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke in Columbia, S.C., on Wednesday with African-American women and others who own small businesses... She still has a ways to go in generating enthusiasm, to judge from the empty seats in the room.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-in-south-carolina-reminds-black-women-of-her-support-for-obama.htmllol you searched for empty rooms and Democratic candidates.

[boutons_deux]

https://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/trump-mural.jpg?w=620&h=349&crop=1

[m>s]

Trump hits 40%

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/26/poll-donald-trump-sets-record-hits-40-percent-in-new-poll/

[HarlemHeat37]

I have only ever voted once in my life, but it'll be an honor to vote for Mr. Trump( if given the opportunity), tbh:(..

[m>s]

^YES

[SuperCam]

Trump hits 40%

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/26/poll-donald-trump-sets-record-hits-40-percent-in-new-poll/


Poll is from Aug 26th, dumb whitey :lol

[DMX7]

I have only ever voted once in my life, but it'll be an honor to vote for Mr. Trump( if given the opportunity), tbh:(..

Are you Canadian? That could be a problem.

[m>s]

Poll is from Aug 26th, dumb whitey :lol
Fuck off n!gger

[HarlemHeat37]

Are you Canadian? That could be a problem.

:lol Dual-citizen, born in America..last time I voted I was still living in America, but to my knowledge, I can still vote in the US if I'm a dual-citizen living in Canada IIRC..

[ducks]

Rosie Gray ‏@RosieGray · 13m13 minutes ago
I'm watching Trump's speech from in the crowd, which is so big I can't see the stage from where I am.

[Blake]

" Trump brought his Bible along once again, and briefly addressed his faith between attacks on his rivals and Democrats."I believe in God. I believe in the Bible. I'm a Christian," he said. He ended by bemoaning the increased use of the term "Happy Holidays" in place of "Merry Christmas" as a sign that Christianity is under attack. As president, he said, he'd reverse the trend."

http://news.yahoo.com/playboy-no-more-trump-courts-christian-074522507--election.html?nf=1

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump’s Phony Christian Routine Earns Boos at Values Voter Summit

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/26/donald-trump-claims-christian-believes-bible-loves-people.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

the Christian Taliban will probably not vote Donny because he's missing Christian Taliban bona fides

[boutons_deux]

Grindr Republicans back Donald Trump as top choice in presidential poll

Users of the gay hookup app Grindr have selected Donald Trump as their top choice in the Republican presidential primary.

Grindr announced (http://www.grindr.com/blog/hillary-or-bernie-carly-or-the-donald-welcome-to-the-grindr-2015-election-p) the results of its election poll this week by noting that Trump had the support of 21 percent of Republicans users of the app. Ohio Gov. John Kasich and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush trailed with 7 percent. Carly Fiorina and Ben Carson were backed by 5 percent of GOP users.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/grindr-republicans-back-donald-trump-as-top-choice-in-presidential-poll/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[ducks]

Tax plan to be announced Monday

[hater]

Clinton just said Trump could very well win the nomination. I guess he's a delusional Te Bagger as well :lmao

[Sportcamper]

The 60 minute segment on “The Donald” last night was so bizarre…Donald’s orange face and white make up around his eyes...I could not get past it... Did his handlers ever hear of a pre screen test? You would think that someone so rich could afford a Hollywood Powder Puff… HD 1080 leaves nothing to the imagination…Meanwhile Putin came off as calm & rational…Leave it to 60 minutes to distort reality…:lol

[DMX7]

The 60 minute segment on “The Donald” last night was so bizarre…Donald’s orange face and white make up around his eyes...I could not get past it... Did his handlers ever hear of a pre screen test? You would think that someone so rich could afford a Hollywood Powder Puff… HD 1080 leaves nothing to the imagination…Meanwhile Putin came off as calm & rational…Leave it to 60 minutes to distort reality…:lol

I didn't see Donald's interview but I saw most of Putin's. That is just Putin being Putin. In interviews, he almost always comes across that way.

[DMX7]

"I looked the man [Vladimir Putin] in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul. He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship."

- George W. Bush

Does anyone have a more keen eye that George W. Bush? :lol

Trump won't play games like that.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Plan Is Tax Cut for the Rich, Even Hedge Fund Managers

despite his campaign’s assurances that the plan is “fiscally responsible,” it would grow budget deficits by trillions of dollars over a decade.

You could call Mr. Trump’s plan a higher-energy version of the tax plan Jeb Bush announced earlier this month (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/upshot/jeb-bushs-tax-plan-is-a-large-tax-cut-for-the-wealthiest.html): similar in structure, but with lower rates and wider tax brackets, meaning individual taxpayers would pay even less than under Mr. Bush, and the government would lose even more tax revenue.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/upshot/trump-plan-is-tax-cut-for-the-rich-even-hedge-fund-managers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0#story-continues-2)Currently, the top income tax rate for regular income is 39.6 percent. Mr. Trump would cut that rate to 25 percent, the lowest level since 1931. He’d cut maximum rates on capital gains and dividends to 20 percent from 23.8 percent. He’d cut the corporate tax rate to 15 percent, and also offer a special tax rate of 15 percent to business owners — less than half what they may pay under today’s rules. He’d abolish the estate tax (http://topics.nytimes.com/your-money/planning/estate-planning/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) entirely.

In 2013, taxpayers earning between $500,000 and $10 million deducted or exempted an average of 12 percent of their income from tax; for those earning more than $10 million, the figure was 16 percent. If those deductions were abolished entirely (and Mr. Trump proposes only to reduce them), that would not come close to paying for a cut in the top tax rate from 39.6 percent to 25 percent, which is a relative reduction of 37 percent.

Mr. Trump has also proposed taxing investment returns related to life insurance that currently don’t appear on tax returns at all. This would raise more revenue than you might expect, perhaps $20 billion a year at Mr. Trump’s proposed tax rates, but still wouldn’t be enough to offset the high-end rate cuts.

Even the hedge fund managers Mr. Trump has railed against on the stump would get a tax cut under his plan. The usual fee structure for a hedge fund is called “2-and-20”: a flat management fee (often 2 percent) on all assets, plus a performance fee (often 20 percent) on profits above a set threshold. Currently, the management fee is taxed at ordinary rates up to 39.6 percent, while the performance fee enjoys a preferential rate of 23.8 percent. Under Mr. Trump’s plan, all this income would be taxed at a maximum of 25 percent. The performance fee would be subject to a small tax increase, but that effect would be dwarfed by the large tax cut on ordinary management fees.

Another large, though less-noticed, tax cut in Mr. Trump’s plan is a reduction in the maximum tax rate on “pass-through income” to 15 percent; currently, this income is taxed at the same rates as wage income, up to 39.6 percent.

In addition to offering huge tax cuts to the rich and to business owners (including me!), Mr. Trump would offer huge tax cuts for the middle and upper-middle class. Married couples would pay no tax on their first $50,000 of income and just 10 percent on the next $50,000. A married couple with no children earning $100,000 and taking the standard deduction would pay $11,437 in income tax under today’s rules; under Mr. Trump’s plan, they would pay just $5,000, a tax cut of 56 percent. Many people with low-to-moderate incomes would see their income tax bills reduced to zero, increasing the share of the population that pays no income tax at all.

He’d also offer huge tax breaks to corporations, which would pay 15 percent, down from a current rate of 35 percent. Corporate tax is the main place where his plan departs from Republican orthodoxy, but in a fairly arcane way. Mr. Trump would tax the worldwide income of American corporations at the time it is earned.

Mr. Trump’s worldwide tax plan would have no effect on Ford’s choice to make cars in Mexico, so long as they’re paying at least 15 percent in tax to Mexico on their Mexican activities.

his tax plan would pay for itself: economic growth, perhaps as fast as 6 percent a year, again a higher-energy estimate than the 4 percent Mr. Bush has proposed. But there is no evidence (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/18/upshot/economists-advise-us-not-to-hold-our-breath-on-jeb-bushs-growth-target.html) to support the idea that such rapid growth can be produced through tax cuts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/upshot/trump-plan-is-tax-cut-for-the-rich-even-hedge-fund-managers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

iow, enrich the 1% and BigCorp while fucking America.

[DMX7]

Trump Tax Plan Released: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform


If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.

[Spurminator]

Well, on the surface at least it's better than the flat tax. I'd have to see what deductions/loopholes specifically are removed before I could really judge it.

[ducks]

they say he talked to tax excepts and came up with the plan

[hater]

Boom. He wins its official

[hater]

What a master plan :wow

[CavsSuperFan]

If you are single and earn less than $25,000, they get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win”

I seriously do not think that earning less than 25k is “winning”…
http://reasonradionetwork.com/images/2011/09/Ross_Perot.jpg

[ducks]

many people going to school and right out of highschool do not make 25 k
you think they should pay taxes to uncle sam

[DMX7]

If you are single and earn less than $25,000, they get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win”

I seriously do not think that earning less than 25k is “winning”…
http://reasonradionetwork.com/images/2011/09/Ross_Perot.jpg

I didn't realize "50%" of (married status) households make less than $50K. That's not good.

[DMX7]

I am not a fan of repealing the estate tax as Trump proposes. Hate to have to disagree with him on anything he says, but I still support him.

#TeamTrump
#Orange4Ever
#WINNING

[ducks]

I am not a fan of repealing the estate tax as Trump proposes. Hate to have to disagree with him on anything he says, but I still support him.

#TeamTrump
#Orange4Ever
#WINNING
know someone they own a ranch he and wife die tomorrow
they have 6 kids say it is worth 6 million none of the kids have enough money to pay 57% tax on that and their parents already paid tax on the ranch!

[RandomGuy]

know someone they own a ranch he and wife die tomorrow
they have 6 kids say it is worth 6 million none of the kids have enough money to pay 57% tax on that and their parents already paid tax on the ranch!

Ranch pays the taxes, which I would guess have a pretty fair exemption from the estate tax. $5,340,000M is exempt.
http://www.irs.gov/instructions/i706/ch01.html (irs website gives figure of initial exemption)

6M-5.34M = 660,000.

57% of that is roughly 376k.

Pretty doable from the revenues on such a large working ranch, I would guess.

That is assuming there is not a further exemption from the tax for farms/ranches, which I would say is pretty probable, given teh politics of such things.

I can read it for you, but you have, once again, gotten suckered by people willing to lie to you to get you to vote for them. Those people rail against estate taxes, because that is what their rich donors tell them to be mad about.

[DMX7]

know someone they own a ranch he and wife die tomorrow
they have 6 kids say it is worth 6 million none of the kids have enough money to pay 57% tax on that and their parents already paid tax on the ranch!

The first $5.43M is completely exempt from estate taxes.

Also, I don't think the rate on the portion not exempt is 57%.

[RandomGuy]

Boom. He wins its official

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-six-stages-of-doom/

or if you prefer the votes that actually matte, where Jeb is clearly winning:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

Silver gives rather low 50:1 odds on Trump getting the nomination.

Trump is popular with the "low information" crowd, but will be winnowed out as people start paying attention.

[Splits]

Trump is popular with the "low information" crowd

which explains why he's so popular on this sub :lol

morans.

[ducks]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-six-stages-of-doom/

or if you prefer the votes that actually matte, where Jeb is clearly winning:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

Silver gives rather low 50:1 odds on Trump getting the nomination.




Trump is popular with the "low information" crowd, but will be winnowed out as people start paying attention.
congress has a disApproval rating of 75%
why would anyone care about their endorsement

[ducks]

Ranch pays the taxes, which I would guess have a pretty fair exemption from the estate tax. $5,340,000M is exempt.
http://www.irs.gov/instructions/i706/ch01.html (irs website gives figure of initial exemption)

6M-5.34M = 660,000.

57% of that is roughly 376k.

Pretty doable from the revenues on such a large working ranch, I would guess.

That is assuming there is not a further exemption from the tax for farms/ranches, which I would say is pretty probable, given teh politics of such things.

I can read it for you, but you have, once again, gotten suckered by people willing to lie to you to get you to vote for them. Those people rail against estate taxes, because that is what their rich donors tell them to be mad about.
ranch is not making money has only 80 cows dude is in his 70's can not have more cows
people want 30 or more an hour to help him out

they will have to sell it to pay taxes and not keep it in the family
37 k at 4.5 for 30 years is 1950 I guess that is pocket change for you

[hater]

:lmao talking about low information crowd. Remember the Obama voters saying if Obama wins he would pay their bills :lmao

[DMX7]

ranch is not making money has only 80 cows dude is in his 70's can not have more cows
people want 30 or more an hour to help him out

they will have to sell it to pay taxes and not keep it in the family
37 k at 4.5 for 30 years is 1950 I guess that is pocket change for you

So the $6 million farm is not making money? Then sell it.

[ducks]

some things have more then money
the land is beautiful and it was their parents they will have to do something when their folks pass on
the ranch could make money if you bought more cows and things.......

[boutons_deux]

Donny T is as lost in Repug fantasy world, is nothing but con man, as any of the other assholes

Trump's tax cuts could cost U.S. trillions of dollars

Trump’s tax cuts appear to be substantially larger than those recently proposed by his Republican rivals Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio, experts said. The plan also hews closely to standard Republican fiscal policy despite Trump campaign rhetoric that has hinted he might challenge party orthodoxy on taxes.

Kyle Pomerleau, an economist at the nonpartisan Tax Foundation in Washington, said it was highly unlikely that the overall plan would cost the government nothing, as Trump asserted.

“Even accounting for additional economic growth from the plan,” he said, “it still wouldn’t be able to claw back the revenue losses.”

For months, Trump hinted that he would break with his party and crack down on tax breaks for Wall Street. His plan does include elimination of the so-called carried interest break that has enabled hedge fund titans and private equity investors like Mitt Romney to pay lower tax rates than the middle class.

But it’s not clear that Trump’s plan would actually raise taxes on the group. Most of their investment income is now taxed at the top 23.8% rate for capital gains. Under Trump’s plan, it would be taxed as ordinary income at the new top rate of 25%, down from 39.6%.

Because much of the other earnings of Wall Street’s richest bankers is already taxed as ordinary income, the net result could be a substantial drop in their overall income taxes.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-politics-trump-tax-policy-20150928-story.html

So, like dubya2, Donny T is proposing to save himself $10Ms in taxes.

[ducks]

if you believe what they wrote

[DMX7]

some things have more then money
the land is beautiful and it was their parents they will have to do something when their folks pass on
the ranch could make money if you bought more cows and things.......

Only $570K is subject to any taxes at all... So we're looking at about $300K or so in taxes on a $6 million estate.

If you own a large $6M property and KNOW you want to keep it in the family, then it's YOUR responsibility to think ahead and plan for taxes. There are ways they probably could have gotten around this without selling anything. For example, below indicates they could have given an annual gift to reduce their estate by $168K ($28K in FMV of property to each of the 6 kids) last year. If they had done that each of the last 4 years, they would owe NOTHING.

IRS FAQ:
What if my spouse and I want to give away property that we own together? You are each entitled to the annual exclusion amount on the gift. Together, you can give $22,000 to each donee (2002-2005) or $24,000 (2006-2008), $26,000 (2009-2012) and $28,000 on or after January 1, 2013 (including 2014 and 2015).

http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Estate-Tax

[DMX7]

And if you own $6M in personal property and just want to keep 100% because it looks pretty, you're not a charity case. What a load of shit.

[TeyshaBlue]

I'm all over the place on this. It's theirs. They've paid taxes when it was purchased, and continue to pay taxes on the property. How many additional times does this need to be taxed?

[TeyshaBlue]

Just because they have land valued at 6 million doesn't mean they're liquid. Might not be so easy to dole out 30k per kid each year.

[boutons_deux]

I'm all over the place on this. It's theirs. They've paid taxes when it was purchased, and continue to pay taxes on the property. How many additional times does this need to be taxed?

the kids paid shit, it's taxable income to them, of which first $5M or $10M is already tax free.

[Pelicans78]

Why would Trump propose a tax on investment from life insurances? That's retarded and basically stealing since people are already putting money into that every year.

[DMX7]

Just because they have land valued at 6 million doesn't mean they're liquid. Might not be so easy to dole out 30k per kid each year.

Doesn't have to be liquid. It would most likely be the FMV of the property given.

[DarrinS]

Why does the left have such a hard-on for taxing the uber rich? There's not enough of them, tbh.

[TeyshaBlue]

Doesn't have to be liquid. It would most likely be the FMV of the property given.

Still got to be liquid enough to peel off 30 bones per kid....or am I misunderstanding this?

[DMX7]

Why does the left have such a hard-on for taxing the uber rich? There's not enough of them, tbh.

It's really a tax on the kids who inherit it. The rich person who owns the estate is dead and gone before a cent is ever owed.

[TeyshaBlue]

the kids paid shit, it's taxable income to them, of which first $5M or $10M is already tax free.

STFU.. the grownups are talking.

[DMX7]

Still got to be liquid enough to peel off 30 bones per kid....or am I misunderstanding this?

A gift doesn't have to be in cash. I'm sure they could get creative with an advisor. So they could probably get the land appraised, carve it up , and "gift" areas (by square feet or something) with approximate FMVs of $28K each to each of the kids.

[TeyshaBlue]

Ah... that makes sense. Thx. :tu

[JoeChalupa]

Donald lied about his tax plan.

[diego]

I'm all over the place on this. It's theirs. They've paid taxes when it was purchased, and continue to pay taxes on the property. How many additional times does this need to be taxed?

There has to be some pressure on landowners to make their property valuable. Otherwise, the strongest player will buy up all the land and lock competition out like that. It goes back to feudal times, you can be a hard worker but if you dont your own land to work you'll always be a class below. Estate taxes are necessary to curtail the power of landlords. It tilts the entire social structure. Even now most places the primary cost and primary driver of inflation is how land prices continue to climb worldwide. In my opinion, true capitalism requires further restrictions. Most of the mega rich people I know, on 3 different continents, all make substantial income off rent. They arent contributing jack shit to society, they arent working or competing or thinking or doing anything at all but renting old family properties, most of which are office/retail space they didnt have any hand in building, its just an investment- but it cant pay off forever IMO. They have a tendency to become leaches, a lot of that money that goes to paying them rent could be going to improving everyone elses salaries, that produces inequality, and then the government needs more tax money to subsidize the costs and it becomes even worse. For small businesses (like me) the cost of rent is easily over 50% of my costs, until you buy your own property you are just bleeding money. The point of the estate tax is to encourage them to behave responsibly and develop and value that property in some capacity, so at least someone else can get something from it. You are essentially paying a mega discounted price in order to legally transfer the property to your name, at least here to do that you'd have to document a sale for the fiscal tax value of the property between the father and son- that can be loopholed but you at least have to fake it :lol If it goes as inheritance you pay 30% tax.

I recently sold a property for nearly twice what I bought it for 2 years before. Great for me, but really, it just shows how easy it is to make money from money, and its plain unfair. Im sure there are guys out there more adept than me at doing that but they just dont have even the small beans money I do, much of which is thanks to my family (sure I get some credit but I got a lot of opportunities a lot of people dont). And as medicine gets more sophisticated, the landlords grip will only get tighter, be it for people, businesses, renters and buyers. The real estate market distorts capitalism, and is the reason that a lot of people think it doesnt work- some people start at the top of the playingfield, most have to pay just to be on the fringe. How can you have free trade if big old money is dealing the cards? Gotta at least make them work like everyone else. If anything the exemption should be much lower than 5 million.

[ducks]

Donald Trump's tax plan, which he announced on Monday, would be good for the country, Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist tells "Newsmax TV."

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/693774

[DMX7]

Of course Norquist loves it.

[ducks]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/anti-tax-crusader-grover-norquist-192713175.html

[ChumpDumper]

Norquist!

Yeah!

[DarrinS]

It's really a tax on the kids who inherit it. The rich person who owns the estate is dead and gone before a cent is ever owed.

Ah, so you want to fuck over the kids of the uber riich? I'm pretty sure they don't have many kids.

[DMX7]

Ah, so you want to fuck over the kids of the uber riich? I'm pretty sure they don't have many kids.

How are they being "fucked over"? A lot of poor kids would love to get fucked over like that...LMAO

[ducks]

http://conservativeintel.com/2015/09/28/its-official-carl-icahn-backs-trump-for-president/

[ducks]

If they were your kids would you saw fuck the kids

[ChumpDumper]

I've never even heard of saw fucking but I certainly wouldn't do that kind of thing to any kid.

[DMX7]

If they were your kids would you saw fuck the kids

That's some sick shit. Gross!

[DMX7]

...[A] heavy percentage of the survey participants were first-generation wealthy and feel their children should earn their own money just like they did, said Chris Heilmann, chief fiduciary executive of U.S. Trust.

The most famous—and richest—proponent of this approach to inheritance is Warren Buffett, who created the Giving Pledge to convince more of the world's ultrarich to leave a majority of their fortunes to nonprofits rather than family.

Buffett was famously quoted saying, "My family won't receive huge amounts of my net worth. That doesn't mean they'll get nothing. My children have already received some money from me and Susie and will receive more. I still believe in the philosophy ... that a very rich person should leave his kids enough to do anything but not enough to do nothing."

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/03/09/boomers-mimic-warren-buffett-when-it-comes-to-inheritances.html

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12036449_903767126357957_4928103511818621634_n.jpg ?oh=afc923295a0814a9e58825ed9cdaec9d&oe=569D3394

[SpursforSix]

I came in here thinking I would find a spirited debated on Trump and his tax plan. Instead, I've learned that there is not limit to the despicable and perverted things grownups will do to kids.

[ducks]

He also insisted that his plan will bring money into the United States, "because we're bringing in at least $2.5 trillion that's stuck outside of this country... the number could be much, much higher."


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[DMX7]

He also insisted that his plan will bring money into the United States, "because we're bringing in at least $2.5 trillion that's stuck outside of this country... the number could be much, much higher."


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The repatriation is just a giant corporate tax giveaway. The last repatriation break basically did nothing for the economy.

[RandomGuy]

which explains why he's so popular on this sub :lol

morans.

The joke most won't get. I think its funny.

[RandomGuy]

Ah, so you want to fuck over the kids of the uber riich? I'm pretty sure they don't have many kids.

Buncha lazy good for nothings who didn't earn anything wanting handouts?

Why should I give a fuck about lazy people wanting handouts for not doing anything?

[RandomGuy]

If they were your kids would you [say] fuck the kids[?]

Yes. Were I that wealthy, I would want my kids to earn their own way.

Unlike Trump who inherited tens of millions, whose overall long-term return on that gift was worse than an index fund. Oh yeah, he's a shitty businessman.

[RandomGuy]

congress has a disApproval rating of 75%
why would anyone care about their endorsement

People hate Congress collectively, but tend to think very positively about their own congressperson.

Endorsements, as Nate noted, make very good predictors of who will actually win. That is an evidence-based assertion, and reasonable to accept on that basis as being true.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao talking about low information crowd. Remember the Obama voters saying if Obama wins he would pay their bills :lmao

Just as stupid as the people that claim Obama is a secret muslim not born in the country.

[DarrinS]

Just as stupid as the people that claim Obama is a secret muslim not born in the country.

Lol, started by Hillary.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

[RandomGuy]

ranch is not making money has only 80 cows dude is in his 70's can not have more cows
people want 30 or more an hour to help him out

they will have to sell it to pay taxes and not keep it in the family
37 k at 4.5 for 30 years is 1950 I guess that is pocket change for you

If you own a $6M asset, and you haven't done any estate or tax planning that is all on you.

Competent businesses do that all the time.

Do you not think people should take personal responsibility for themselves?

[RandomGuy]

Lol, [restated] by Hillary['s staff after making the rounds of conservatards first]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

FIFY, although I thought you were smart enough to be able to tell the difference between stupid people, and smart people who manipulate stupid people by telling them what they want to hear.

I guess not, although seems hard to be a Republican these days and be smart enough to do that.

[RandomGuy]

Lol, started by Hillary.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2012/11/obama_conspiracy_theories_the_full_list.html


Obama is a secret Muslim: This one began right after he took the stage at the 2004 Democratic convention, with chain emails alleging his "true" religious affiliation. The rumor soon found its way onto the popular conservative online forum Free Republic, and took on a whole new life in the years to come. Related: Obama secretly speaks Arabic, attended a madrassa as a kid in Indonesia, referred to "my Muslim faith" in an interview, and was sworn in on a Koran.

[RandomGuy]

Here is a good analytic on the nutbaggery:

Chart: Almost Every Obama Conspiracy Theory Ever
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/chart-obama-conspiracy-theories

Or if you prefer Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump just got busted for exaggerating his net worth by more than 100 percent — and he’s not happy about it

In true Trump fashion, he lashed out at the magazine for it's report: "Forbes is a bankrupt magazine"


Far from the $10 billion dollar figure Trump routinely brags about on the campaign trail or from his stoop in Trump Tower, Forbes estimates his net worth at $4.5 billion.

Trump first made the Forbes 400 list in 1982, when he shared the position with his father Fred, the original Trump real-estate tycoon who made millions building apartments in Brooklyn and Queens before handing over the family business to his son. Their combined net worth at the time was half a billion dollars. Trump would arrive on the list again as a billionaire for the first time only five years later, but his wild claims about his personal wealth have been dogged by accusations of exaggeration and hyperbole for years. Forbes’ latest assessment:

Trump has filed statements claiming he’s worth at least $10 billion or, as he put in a press release, TEN BILLION DOLLARS (capitalization his). After interviewing more than 80 sources and devoting unprecedented resources to valuing a single fortune, we’re going with a figure less than half that–$4.5 billion, albeit still the highest figure we’ve ever had for him.


Forbes editor Randall Lane explained (http://on.msnbc.com/1FFecqa) on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that the main discrepancy between Trump’s figure and the magazine’s valuation stems from Trump’s inclusion of his “brand” in his total net worth.

Lane said that after spending more time investigating Trump’s market value than any other figure in the list’s 33-year history (Lane claimed that other top 400 listers are investigated for nearly a year by the Forbes staff), he believes the valuation of $4.5 billion “settled the issue.”

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/29/donald_trump_just_got_busted_for_exaggerating_his_ net_worth_by_more_than_100_percent_and_hes_not_hap py_about_it/

Another Repug caught LYING. :lol You rightwingnuts got nothing but LIES and SLANDER.

[DarrinS]

Why the obsession with people thinking Obama could be a Muslim? Who gives a shit, tbh?

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01ii3vwHaWk

[hater]

Anything over 1 billion is obscenely rich so why even waste time on it??? Fucking losers

[RandomGuy]

Why the obsession with people thinking Obama could be a Muslim? Who gives a shit, tbh?


Obama is a secret Muslim: This one began right after he took the stage at the 2004 Democratic convention, with chain emails alleging his "true" religious affiliation. The rumor soon found its way onto the popular conservative online forum Free Republic, and took on a whole new life in the years to come. Related: Obama secretly speaks Arabic, attended a madrassa as a kid in Indonesia, referred to "my Muslim faith" in an interview, and was sworn in on a Koran.

[boutons_deux]

Why the obsession with people thinking Obama could be a Muslim? Who gives a shit, tbh?

If he's Muslim, your boy Carson sez Obama fails religious test for office of the President.

[DarrinS]

Why does Random keep posting 72-pt cartoon fonts?

[DMX7]

There's no getting around it: The tax plan sucks!

I thought I had found the perfect candidate who I agreed with on absolutely EVERYTHING.

Unfortunately, that candidate doesn't exist. :(

[admiralsnackbar]

Anything over 1 billion is obscenely rich so why even waste time on it??? Fucking losers Because constantly saying he has more amounts to loser bullshit, probably. If he's willing to comedically exaggerate something that's actually quantifiable, why do you trust any of his "dunno how I'll do it, but it'll be TERRIFFIC when I do" horseshit? Would you do business with somebody who you knew was lying to you simply because you were taken in by their seeming confidence? Of course not.

[ducks]

I wish we could combine them and make one good candiate

[Warlord23]

So Trump's tax plan is just another deficit-ballooning giveaway ala Reagan and Bush Jr. For a "fiscally conservative" party, they sure like to come up with unsustainable tax policy. Everybody gets a tax cut, especially the rich, but don't worry - the economy will double its growth rate and the deficit will go away.

It's almost like they don't have historical data of when this was tried before.

Example 1: Reagan signed a huge tax cut, saw the deficit jump from 2.5% of GDP in 1981 to 5.9% of GDP in 1983. Thankfully he realized his mistake and increased taxes (which many conservatives seem to have forgotten). When he left, the US had a deficit of 2.7% in 1989.
Example 2: GWB's tax cuts (plus wars and Medicare Part D) turned a 2001 budget surplus of 1.2% of GDP to a deficit of 9.8% of GDP in 2009.

The Bush Sr. and Clinton terms turned the deficit around after Reagan, while the Obama years have reduced the deficit to 2.8% in 2014.

But Jeb, Rubio and now Trump want to cut some more taxes. And yet, they claim the mantle of being fiscally responsible.

[ducks]

the usa needs to cut thinks plan parent heard is a business should not need 500 million a year
the usa needs to stop with the food stamps and free handouts that would save 1 billion there

[hater]

Because constantly saying he has more amounts to loser bullshit, probably. If he's willing to comedically exaggerate something that's actually quantifiable, why do you trust any of his "dunno how I'll do it, but it'll be TERRIFFIC when I do" horseshit? Would you do business with somebody who you knew was lying to you simply because you were taken in by their seeming confidence? Of course not.

It was already stated there are differences on how much Trumps brand is worth. So maybe he's not lying maybe he seriously believes it. As I said he's already a billionaire I don't give a fuck how many billions :rolleyes

[hater]

There's no getting around it: The tax plan sucks!

I thought I had found the perfect candidate who I agreed with on absolutely EVERYTHING.

Unfortunately, that candidate doesn't exist. :(

Da fuck? Trump is going to make filing taxes a fantastic experience. Shame o you

[hater]

I wish we could combine them and make one good candiate

Trump and Putin combination would be amazing

[Spurminator]

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/when-america-was-great-taxes-were-high-unions-were-strong-and-government-was-big/407284/

[admiralsnackbar]

It was already stated there are differences on how much Trumps brand is worth. So maybe he's not lying maybe he seriously believes it. As I said he's already a billionaire I don't give a fuck how many billions :rolleyes It's not like he's off by a billion or two, dude. Givin' homeboy a lot of room for fudging, aren't you? :lol

[DMX7]

Da fuck? Trump is going to make filing taxes a fantastic experience. Shame o you

Oh, I'm still going to vote for him. We have other problems and he has a solution to those other problems.

We have been waiting years for someone to have the courage to stand up and do what we all know needs to be done.

I'm not passing that up just because I don't care for his tax plan.

[admiralsnackbar]

Trump and Putin combination would be amazing :lol That it would be.

[hater]

Oh, I'm still going to vote for him. We have other problems and he has a solution to those other problems.

We have been waiting years for someone to have the courage to stand up and do what we all know needs to be done.

I'm not passing that up just because I don't care for his tax plan.

Fantastic!

[boutons_deux]

he has a solution to those other problems.

he has ... a big mouth full of shit, he'll never have solutions, and won't even have the chance to implement any.

You naives act like the President is omnipotent King, with no restraints from Congress or SCOTUS.

[DMX7]

he'll never have solutions, and won't even have the chance to implement any.

You naives act like the President is omnipotent King, with no restraints from Congress or SCOTUS.

Yes he does! Immigration laws are already on the books. He will use executive orders and the constitution to enforce it!!!

[boutons_deux]

Yes he does! Immigration laws are already on the books. He will use executive orders and the constitution to enforce it!!!

yes, "round them up in a nice way" and boxcar them to MX auschwitz

[hater]

Obama did Obamakare and Iran deal with zero support.

I'm sure trump could right this ship despite the maniacs who want to destroy it. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Lol, started by Hillary.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclintonStarted long before that.

[DMX7]

yes, "round them up in a nice way" and boxcar them to MX auschwitz

Yes, that's right. Almost too right...

[admiralsnackbar]

Obama did Obamakare and Iran deal with zero support. I'm sure trump could right this ship despite the maniacs who want to destroy it. :tu :lol Obamacare passed because of a Dem super-majority, and the Iran deal passed because the house and the senate capitulated to the public desire to avoid another war in the Middle East. Legislative, Judicial, Executive... that's gotta ring a bell, dude.

[hater]

And who's in majority now Einstein?

Trump is also 10x the leader Obumba is. He will say jump and niggas will say how high?

[boutons_deux]

With His Poll Numbers Sliding Donald Trump Slithers Back To Fox News

Donald Trump’s poll numbers are slipping.

The Republican candidate is in dire need of some free publicity, so he is heading back to Fox News to pick a fight with Bill O’Reilly.

Trump’s presidential campaign has been living off of free media and controversy.

As the billionaire’s numbers began to slip in the Republican polls, his free TV coverage started to dry up.Fox News and Trump had a high-profile spat last week (http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/23/anarchy-gop-fox-news-responds-boycott-trashing-donald-trump.html), where Trump announced he was boycotting Fox, and the network responded by claiming that he can’t boycott because they canceled his upcoming appearances.

In the meantime, Trump’s momentum has ground to a halt as he continues to lose support on a weekly basis. The Republican frontrunner has responded by doing the only thing that he knows how to do.

Donald Trump is going to start another slap fight with Fox News.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/29/poll-numbers-sliding-donald-trump-slithers-fox-news.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/29/poll-numbers-sliding-donald-trump-slithers-fox-news.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

[admiralsnackbar]

And who's in majority now Einstein? Trump is also 10x the leader Obumba is. He will say jump and niggas will say how high? I honestly don't give two shits about any candidate right now, so cool them jets if you think I'm coming at you on the partisan or fan-boy tip, hoss. Whatever Obama is is pretty much irrelevant at this point since he's only preening through his victory lap and working on legacy... but that doesn't change the fact that he did get Obamacare passed by a Dem majority, or that a bipartisan caucus in a predominantly Republican legislature green-lighted an Iran deal. Doesn't really change the fact that he didn't get a whole hell of a lot done once the Hill went red, either. It doesn't make me a genius or a smart-ass to recognize that. As for leadership... it doesn't really exist after a politician fucks up, does it? Trump would/will unavoidably fuck-up as much as any other politician -- that's true of any public figure. Once those opinion polls go down, "leadership" reveals itself to just be what it is: a hollow ideal.

[DMX7]

The best tax code for America. Three numbers: 9-9-9.

[Saved By Zero]

He's already hinting he'll drop out just like we all knew he would. Narcissistic behavior.

[velik_m]

I find it funny how worked up americans get about who will be the next president, like it matters in any significant way. The policies won't change regardless of who is in charge.

[boutons_deux]

I find it funny how worked up americans get about who will be the next president, like it matters in any significant way. The policies won't change regardless of who is in charge.

I really don't think Gore would have lied, bullied, intimidated Congress, CIA/NSA, the media to invade Iraq for oil, or created Medicare Advantage to enrich BigInsurance, or written regulations to block govt from negotiating drug prices, or made a huge reduction in taxes on the wealthy and estates.

[hater]

I find it funny how worked up americans get about who will be the next president, like it matters in any significant way. The policies won't change regardless of who is in charge.



Mmm Bush Jr brought change by attacking Iraq. Not sure Gore white house woulda done that. Obama brought Obamakare

Sure many things woulda been the same: Bombings, wars, spying. But there are marked differences

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

yes, "round them up in a nice way" and boxcar them to MX auschwitz

That's what I'm talking about

http://i.imgur.com/YZfPVe9.jpg

[ducks]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

[ducks]

Poll: Trump Up 10 Points Over Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina

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[hater]

:lol only candidate allowed to curse on national tv

:lol he was off the chain tonight

Maybe even a little drunk :lol

[Quetzal-X]

Thats the best part. I think he's sloshed most of the time or on some xanax or both or some bullshit like that.

[Clipper Nation]

Poll: Trump Up 10 Points Over Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/trump-poll-gop-ben-carson/2015/09/30/id/694098/#ixzz3nFhrH1Ey
Urgent: Rate Obama on His Job Performance. Vote Here Now!
:cry But, but, his polls are sliding because the establishment says so! We really need him to not be popular! :cry

[hater]

He's really impressing me in foreign policy.

He says Obama's strategy to hand over weapons and vehicles to whoever will take them is a disgrace

He said let the Russians take Syria for now and concentrate on Iraq.

Fucking genius.

He should be commander in chief

[DMX7]

He's really impressing me in foreign policy.

He says Obama's strategy to hand over weapons and vehicles to whoever will take them is a disgrace

He said let the Russians take Syria for now and concentrate on Iraq.

Fucking genius.

He should be commander in chief

Completely agree. We are wasting time and money in Syria. If Russia wants to take over that disaster, then let them go right ahead.

[hater]

Completely agree. We are wasting time and money in Syria. If Russia wants to take over that disaster, then let them go right ahead.

Hear hear.

Trump also said. Once Assad falls, who's going to take over?? We don't even know who were helping.

I'm not going to start WWIII over Syria...

Fucking genius

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s tax plan should be titled ‘The Art of the Con’


Such obvious deceptions and bogus thinking would get him fired on ‘The Apprentice’


If you believe that the $18.1 trillion federal debt should be much bigger, that the rich don’t have nearly enough, and that corporations need a tax-rate cut of 57 percent, then Donald Trump has just what you are looking for.

The real estate mogul and reality TV star who wants to be president put out a document he called a tax plan (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform). Like many of his business deals, it is long on boastfulness and short on money to pay the inevitable bills.

Trump told “60 Minutes (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-60-minutes-scott-pelley/)” that his plan will work because “overall, it’s going to be a tremendous incentive to grow the economy and we’re going to take in the same or more money … We’re gonna grow the economy so much.”

He would cut the top tax rate from 39.6 percent to 25 percent, cut the corporate rate from 35 percent to 15 percent and eliminate the estate tax so the children of billionaires inherit tax-free. (Most of the estate tax falls on economic gains that have never been taxed, as I showed in my book “Perfectly Legal (http://www.amazon.com/Perfectly-Legal-Campaign-Rich-verybody-ebook/dp/B000OCXHJA/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=)”.) That sounds like more of the tried and failed Republican tax policies of the past 35 years.

Trump says he can make up for the lost tax revenue partly by requiring hedge-fund managers to pay at the top tax rate and ending corporate tax deferrals — something I have championed for years. But there’s just dimes in these proposals to offset lost dollars.

He would also eliminate the income tax for 75 million households, up from the 53 million households in 2013, by exempting the first $25,000 of earnings from tax, double that for married couples. Currently about 36 percent of tax returns show no tax owed, mostly because people are poor (about 35 million households) or have children who qualify for the $1,000 per child tax credit championed by Republicans in Congress.

Tax breaks for me, not thee

Speaking of children, assuming Trump is worth the $10 billion he claims (his election disclosures indicate its likely closer to $1 billion), his five children would save about $800 million each in taxes on their inheritances from his estate-tax repeal. That would seem to put his children in the same situation as hotel scion Barron Hilton, whom Trump once dismissed because he owed his riches to being a member of “the lucky sperm club.”

Trump also says he would close loopholes to raise revenue, but does not say which. That’s interesting because Trump benefits from an outrageous loophole, a 1990s tax-code change that let’s people who work just 15 hours a week in real estate live tax-free.

All you need is a enough buildings so that your annual write down for depreciation exceeds your income from other sources such as, say, a television show and royalties for putting your name on neckties made in China (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-admits-gear-made-china-labels/story?id=13472355). Everyone who does not qualify for this loophole is limited to offsetting no more than $25,000 of earned income with depreciation.

I wonder if we will ever see Trump’s tax returns and learn just how much he saves because of this loophole. Early in his career, his tax returns showed that paper losses from real estate were so huge he escaped income taxes, as I revealed in “Temples of Chance (http://www.amazon.com/Temples-Chance-David-Johnston/dp/0385419201),” my 1992 book on Trump and other casino moguls.

Laughable

When I read the Trump tax plan, vagaries and all, I literally burst out laughing at its fairy tales. But I also knew most people would not understand that his plan was fantasy wrapped in deception, Trump’s art of the con.

Having spent five decades studying taxes I know the Trump tax is as realistic as human transporters (http://martinjclemens.com/no-the-star-trek-transporter-is-not-almost-a-reality/). Having covered Trump on and off since 1988, I also knew that reporters would faithfully regurgitate his plan with no more than a dash of skepticism.

The Trump tax cannot do anything but create economic disaster. But don’t take my word for it; take the word of one of the leading opponents of taxes in America, the nonprofit Tax Foundation (http://taxfoundation.org/).

Its computer model shows (http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-donald-trump-s-tax-plan) that federal revenues would drop by almost $12 trillion in the next decade. That is well more than a third of what the government is expected to collect in individual and corporate income taxes in ten years after President Barack Obama leaves office so the annual federal deficit would balloon.

Under President Obama the annual budget deficit has shrunk by two-thirds to 2.5 percent of the economy, which is less than the average of George W. Bush budgets. By contrast, Trump’s plan would put the deficit deep into double digits.

But it’s actually much worse than that, as the Tax Foundation’s disclaimers show. Its computer model ignores such basics as “fiscal or economic effects of interest on debt” and “does not require budgets to balance over the long term.” The Tax Foundation also ignores the effects of spending cuts (or increases) on the economy overall.

Spend, spend, spend

Trump the would-be tax cutter also promises to be Trump the big spender.

Trump wants universal health care. That would sharply lower America’s overall healthcare costs (http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2012/09/11/a-tale-of-two-healthcare-plans/), if done wisely. But while private spending would fall or even be eliminated, government spending would rise.

Next comes the cost of rounding up millions of illegal aliens. Trump says he would remove people summarily, but our Constitution limits such power. The president can only do what Congress authorizes and finances; he must follow the due process judicial procedures that safeguard liberty.

Then there’s that nearly 2,000-mile wall Trump wants to build on the Mexican border.

And what of Trump’s plans for more wars (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421825/donald-trumps-odd-fixation-seizing-middle-eastern-oil-fields-jim-geraghty)? He escaped the Vietnam era draft, but says the military school his father sent him to because of his persistent misbehavior was like serving. Trump is very clear, as even far right political website have noted, that he will send your sons and daughters where he would not go — into battle (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/lindsey-graham-isis-loves-donald-trump/2015/08/28/id/672486/).

The cost of a new Middle East war, just in terms of drains on the taxpayers, would likely continue well into the 22nd century. After all, the last Civil War dependent’s pension was still being paid in 2013 (http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/07/03/one-civil-war-veterans-pension-remains-on-governments-payroll).

The peak year for World War II veteran benefits was 1993 (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/middle-east/article24477178.html).

My guess is that the ridiculousness of his tax plan means that Trump is about to fade politically, allowing him to resume his lucrative career as a television entertainer, where he can flourish.

For the sake of your wallet and your country, you should hope so.

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/10/trumps-tax-plan-should-be-titled-the-art-of-the-con.html

[boutons_deux]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQJg87XUcAAAQA9.jpg

[boutons_deux]

http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2015-10-01-daily-show-trevor-noah-donald-trump-president-africa-640-668x501.jpg

Trevor Noah realized that Donald Trump’s campaign style is in fact very presidential — he’s just like some of the more notorious presidents from back in Trevor’s home continent of Africa.

Indeed, Trump’s many notorious quotations resemble exactly the likes of Idi Amin, Muammar Gaddafi, Robert Mugabe, and many more.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/late-night-roundup-the-first-african-president-donald-trump/

[boutons_deux]

Voodoo Never Dies

So Donald Trump has unveiled his tax plan (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/upshot/trump-plan-is-tax-cut-for-the-rich-even-hedge-fund-managers.html). It would, it turns out, lavish huge cuts on the wealthy while blowing up the deficit.

This is in contrast to Jeb Bush’s plan (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/upshot/jeb-bushs-tax-plan-is-a-large-tax-cut-for-the-wealthiest.html), which would lavish huge cuts on the wealthy while blowing up the deficit, and Marco Rubio’s plan (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/12/upshot/marco-rubios-puppies-and-rainbows-tax-plan.html), which would lavish huge cuts on the wealthy while blowing up the deficit.

For what it’s worth, it looks as if Trump’s plan would make an even bigger hole in the budget than Jeb’s. Jeb justifies his plan by claiming that it would double America’s rate of growth; The Donald, ahem, trumps this by claiming that he would triple the rate of growth. But really, why sweat the details? It’s all voodoo. The interesting question is why every Republican candidate feels compelled to go down this path.

You might think that there was a defensible economic case for the obsession with cutting taxes on the rich. That is, you might think that if you’d spent the past 20 years in a cave (or a conservative think tank). Otherwise, you’d be aware that tax-cut enthusiasts have a remarkable track record: They’ve been wrong about everything, year after year.

Some readers may remember the forecasts (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2010/08/10/173450/1993-quotes/) of economic doom back in 1993, when Bill Clinton raised the top tax rate. What happened instead was a sustained boom, surpassing the Reagan years by every measure.

Undaunted, the same people predicted great things as a result of George W. Bush’s tax cuts. What happened instead was a sluggish recovery followed by a catastrophic economic crash.

Most recently, the usual suspects once again predicted doom in 2013, when taxes on the 1 percent rose sharply due to the expiration of some of the Bush tax cuts and new taxes that help pay for health reform. What happened instead was job growth at rates not seen since the 1990s.

Then there’s the recent state-level evidence. Kansas slashed taxes, :lol :lol KANSAS! :lol in what its right-wing governor described as a “real live experiment (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jun/19/brownback-gets-heat-real-live-experiment-comment-t/)” in economic policy; the state’s growth has lagged ever since.

California moved in the opposite direction, raising taxes; it has recently led the nation in job growth.

True, you can find self-proclaimed economic experts claiming to find overall evidence that low tax rates spur economic growth, but such experts invariably turn out to be on the payroll of right-wing pressure groups (and have an interesting habit of getting their numbers wrong (http://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/stephen_moore_heritage_foundation_paul_krugman_kan sas_city_star.php)). Independent studies of the correlation between tax rates and economic growth, for example by the Congressional Research Service (https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42111.pdf), consistently find no relationship at all. There is no serious economic case for the tax-cut obsession.

Still, tax cuts are politically popular, right? Actually, no, at least when it comes to tax cuts for the wealthy. According to Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/168521/taxes-rise-half-say-middle-income-pay.aspx), only 13 percent of Americans believe that upper-income individuals pay too much in taxes, while 61 percent believe that they pay too little. Even among self-identified Republicans, those who say that the rich should pay more outnumber those who say they should pay less by two to one.

So every Republican who would be president is committed to a policy that is both demonstrably bad economics and deeply unpopular. What’s going on?

Well, consider the trajectory of Marco Rubio, who may at this point be the most likely (https://www.predictit.org/Browse/Group/53/President) Republican nominee. Last year he supported a tax-cut plan devised by Senator Mike Lee that purported to be aimed at the poor and the middle class. In reality, its benefits were strongly tilted toward high incomes — but it still drew harsh criticism from the right (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/397679/hostage-child-tax-credit-amity-shlaes-matthew-denhart) for giving too much to ordinary families while not cutting taxes on top incomes enough.

So Mr. Rubio came back with a plan (http://www.cbpp.org/blog/lee-rubio-tax-plan-huge-new-windfall-at-the-top-lost-child-credits-at-the-bottom) that eliminated taxes on dividends, capital gains, and inherited wealth, providing a huge windfall to the very wealthy. And suddenly he was gaining a lot of buzz (http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/415280/insider-buzz-grows-marco-rubio-eliana-johnson) among Republican donors. The new plan would add trillions to the deficit, which conservatives claim to care about, but never mind.

In other words, it’s straightforward and quite stark: Republicans support big tax cuts for the wealthy because that’s what wealthy donors want.

No doubt most of those donors have managed to convince themselves that what’s good for them is good for America. But at root it’s about rich people supporting politicians who will make them richer. Everything else is just rationalization.

Of course, once the Republicans settle on a nominee, an army of hired guns will be mobilized to obscure this stark truth. We’ll see claims that it’s really a middle-class tax cut, that it will too do great things for economic growth, and look over there — emails!

And given the conventions of he-said-she-said journalism, this campaign of obfuscation may work.

But never forget that what it’s really about is top-down class warfare. That may sound simplistic, but it’s the way the world works.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/02/opinion/voodoo-never-dies.html

[boutons_deux]

“Shut the f**k up Donny”: This mashup of The Big Lebowski’s Walter Sobchak silencing Donald Trump is everything

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/02/shut_the_fk_up_donny_this_mashup_of_the_big_lebows kis_walter_sobchak_silencing_donald_trump_is_every thing/

[Clipper Nation]

Shouldn't Salon be busy writing more "pedophile acceptance" propaganda articles?

[ducks]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/03/politics/donald-trump-oregon-shooting-armed-teachers/index.html

Go trump go

[boutons_deux]

Pandering to the xenophobes, racists, nativists, Spurtalkers

Donald Trump Preposterously Claims Syrian Refugees Could Launch Military Coup

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/04/donald-trump-syrian-refugees-launch-military-coup.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[m>s]

Shitface you should be for trump because of his tax plan, you won't have to pay any federal income taxes

[boutons_deux]

Donny T, of the bullshit silly hairdo, he's really 69 years old?, and spray on tan, says he will drop out if his poll numbers drop.

Leaving the nomination to Car Lie Fiorina and a 7th Day Adventist freak.

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump Is Crumbling As George Stephanopoulos Blows His Mr. Fix It Image To Bits

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/04/donald-trump-crumbling-george-stephanopoulos-blows-mr-fix-image-bits.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[DMX7]

Sometimes I have mixed feelings about Trump. His tax plan is just plain stupid and he got humiliated by George here, yet he is a boarder line genius when it comes to immigration and foreign policy. I love how he asks rhetorically why aren't the wealthy gulf states taking in Syrian refugees? They totally should be!

vlFVap0-Lyg

[boutons_deux]

"he is a boarder line genius when it comes to immigration and foreign policy."

:lol

[hater]

Wow trump is awesome. He said if ghadafi and Saddam were still in power. Everything.would.be more stable.

All, vote for this guy.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Calls Mass Shooters 'Geniuses in a Certain Way'


http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trump-calls-mass-shooters-geniuses-certain-way

[DMX7]

Trump Calls Mass Shooters 'Geniuses in a Certain Way'


http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trump-calls-mass-shooters-geniuses-certain-way

We have to stop worrying about political correctness. This nation can't afford it anymore. Hell, we invented the participation trophy, but in the real world there are winners and losers... and we keep losing. Trump will make us winners again. You'll be sick of winning because we'll be winning so much -- just gotta believe man.

[ducks]

Trump Calls Mass Shooters 'Geniuses in a Certain Way'


http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trump-calls-mass-shooters-geniuses-certain-wayread read article he did not say that anywhere very misleading title

[DMX7]

read article he did not say that anywhere very misleading title

Why do you write like that? You have like three independent clauses in a single line.

[Splits]

Why do you write like that? You have like three independent clauses in a single line.

Because he's a Trump supporter. And it isn't "like three" it is "three".

[Clipper Nation]

Just cuck my shit up!
FIFY

[DMX7]

Make America Great Again is such a simple slogan but it is so meaningful -- not just pablum. We have to do it!

[Splits]

Make America Great Again is such a simple slogan but it is so meaningful -- not just pablum. We have to do it!

When was the last time American was great?

[DMX7]

When was the last time American was great?

January 20, 1989

[Splits]

January 20, 1989

:lol is that your birthdate?

[DMX7]

:lol is that your birthdate?

No, it's close though. :lol

Actually, it's the last day Ronald Reagan was president. He's a hero of mine.

He single handedly defeated the Soviet Union, solved the Iranian hostage crisis and did other stuff.

I feel that Trump can do similar great things.

[Splits]

No, it's close though. :lol

Actually, it's the last day Ronald Reagan was president. He's a hero of mine.

He single handedly defeated the Soviet Union, solved the Iranian hostage crisis and did other stuff.

I feel that Trump can do similar great things.

:lol no he didn't

Is that what they're teaching in high school these days? Lemme guess, Texas public school...

[ducks]

now someone is offering 100 form him to be dead

[Splits]

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/10/graydon-carter-donald-trump


Like so many bullies, Trump has skin of gossamer. He thinks nothing of saying the most hurtful thing about someone else, but when he hears a whisper that runs counter to his own vainglorious self-image, he coils like a caged ferret. Just to drive him a little bit crazy, I took to referring to him as a “short-fingered vulgarian” in the pages of Spy magazine. That was more than a quarter of a century ago. To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him—generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby. The most recent offering arrived earlier this year, before his decision to go after the Republican presidential nomination. Like the other packages, this one included a circled hand and the words, also written in gold Sharpie: “See, not so short!” I sent the picture back by return mail with a note attached, saying, “Actually, quite short.” Which I can only assume gave him fits.

:lol

[boutons_deux]

http://images.dailykos.com/images/170432/large/1259ckCOMIC-trump-university.png?1444910385

[boutons_deux]

Trump Rally Turns Violent As His Supporters Push And Spit On Immigrant Advocates

Donald Trump supporters are not just passionate about his anti-immigrant rhetoric; they’re also living out his outrage in real-time.

A man spat in an immigrant activist’s face during a campaign rally for the Republican presidential candidate in Richmond, Virginia on Wednesday night. The incident occurred soon after immigrant activists briefly interrupted the Republican presidential candidate as Trump launched into an anti-immigrant tirade about giving “free stuff” to “illegal immigrants.”

At that point, progressive activists began loudly protesting, but a small group of Trump supporters drowned them out. Local CBS reporter Garrett Haake recorded an encounter (https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/status/654439854965719040) in which a blue-shirted Trump supporter repeatedly shouted “Fuck you” to the activists and spat in the face of one man before walking away.

By now, incidents like this at Trump rallies are becoming routine (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2015/09/15/3701574/trump-supporters-extreme/). In fact, his supporters have spat on immigrant activists in the past.

Trump supporters have told immigrant activists (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2015/09/15/3701574/trump-supporters-extreme/) to “clean my hotel room, bitch (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-2016-dallas-megarally-213625);”

shouted “if it ain’t white, it ain’t right (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-supporters-harass-immigration-protesters-in-iowa_55f6d6aae4b077ca094f891a)” while ripping up posters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfKVpGN5DFc);

told Latino U.S. citizens to “go home (https://twitter.com/_mariocarrillo_/status/641675128246407168)” while grabbing their hair and spitting on them;

told prominent journalist and U.S. citizen Jorge Ramos to “get out of my country (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2015/09/15/3701574/trump-supporters-extreme/thinkprogress.org/immigration/2015/08/26/3695602/trump-supporter-jorge-ramos/);”

joked “you can shoot all the people you want that cross illegally (http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/08/he_came_to_mobile_to_put_on_a.html);” and

beat up and urinated on (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2015/08/20/3693346/trump-inspired-brothers-beat-up-homeless-latino-man/) the homeless.

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg (http://americasvoice.org/blog/a-timeline-trumps-racial-demagoguery-is-having-dangerous-real-life-consquences/) of incidents against Latinos.

There’s some evidence to back up this phenomenon. A slew of behavioral psychology studies have found that xenophobic rhetoric can and will (https://books.google.com/books?id=YEPgHxQ2VVoC&pg=PA155&lpg=PA155&dq=normalize+xenophobia&source=bl&ots=2AFkv5Cdiw&sig=wJ0Wlb-Pe2Gg9LTJieSjU9NHvFc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAmoVChMI8NuOq9XEyAIVxosNCh3dSwhf#v=on epage&q=normalize%20xenophobia&f=false) embolden supporters to normalize racism.

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2015/10/15/3712633/trump-rally-violent/

and we can be sure the ST racists and xenophobes would be at a Trump rally to spit on Messcans

[Quetzal-X]

:lolFucking bitch made honkey spitting like a damn common whore. These Trump fellators must shit their pants multiple times daily. BTW only bitches and whores spit when angry. Defenseless bitch spitting like a damn female lol.:lol

Life must suck for you honkey trump fellators , this is fucking great!


:bobo

[boutons_deux]

Poll finds Trump 'most electable Republican for 2016.' Really?

Donald Trump doesn't just defy the laws of political gravity. He rewrites them.

That's according to two recent polls that list the brash, outspoken, surprise candidate as the most electable Republican in the 2016 general election.

A whopping 47 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers in Nevada said Mr. Trump has the best chance of winning the general election next November, according to a new CNN/ORC poll (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/14/politics/cnn-orc-poll-full-results-toplines-south-carolina-nevada-republicans/index.html) out Wednesday.

By contrast, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who has tried to brand himself as "Mr. Electable," is seen as the party's best chance by just 7 percent of Nevada voters.

These findings echo those of a Sept. 15 New York Times/CBS News Poll (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/15/us/politics/document-poll-presidential-race.html) that found that 39 percent of Republican primary and caucus voters viewed Trump as their best shot at winning the presidency.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/1506d6cb26fbce2c

:lol America is so fucked when a major party wants a self-promoting buffoon trolling asshole as President. :lol

[Quetzal-X]

:lolA GodDAMN motherfucking game show host 4President!:lol

'Murica!

[ducks]

Poll finds Trump 'most electable Republican for 2016.' Really?

Donald Trump doesn't just defy the laws of political gravity. He rewrites them.

That's according to two recent polls that list the brash, outspoken, surprise candidate as the most electable Republican in the 2016 general election.

A whopping 47 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers in Nevada said Mr. Trump has the best chance of winning the general election next November, according to a new CNN/ORC poll (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/14/politics/cnn-orc-poll-full-results-toplines-south-carolina-nevada-republicans/index.html) out Wednesday.

By contrast, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who has tried to brand himself as "Mr. Electable," is seen as the party's best chance by just 7 percent of Nevada voters.

These findings echo those of a Sept. 15 New York Times/CBS News Poll (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/15/us/politics/document-poll-presidential-race.html) that found that 39 percent of Republican primary and caucus voters viewed Trump as their best shot at winning the presidency.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/1506d6cb26fbce2c

:lol America is so fucked when a major party wants a self-promoting buffoon trolling asshole as President. :lol


Why is American fucked because you say so?

all the candiates are assholes in one area or the other

[ducks]

Wow
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-poll-nevada-south-carolina-2015-10#comments

[boutons_deux]

RNC Chair: GOP 'Cooked As A Party' If We Don't Win 2016 Election
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/reince-priebus-2016-cooked-gop?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

and NONE of the Repugs are electable.

[DMX7]

Wow
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-poll-nevada-south-carolina-2015-10#comments

He is a once in a generation candidate. We have to elect him -- he is our only hope.

[hater]

Wow
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-poll-nevada-south-carolina-2015-10#comments

This is Trump's world and we just happen to live in it.

[DMX7]

Wow
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-poll-nevada-south-carolina-2015-10#comments


And when GOP voters in South Carolina were asked who could best handle ...

+The economy, 59% said Trump, which put him more than 50 points ahead of former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson.

Incredible!

[Splits]

655098096649707520

:lmao He kept us safe by ignoring "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" presidential memo

[Splits]

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Oh the irony.

[DMX7]

644542458735525888

Oh the irony.

Ok, that's worse that just ironic. I mean it's fun to poke at Jeb for how dumb that comment is. But people actually died underneath the rubble his brother is standing on -- he didn't keep those people safe. It's almost offensive for Jeb to say that.

[DMX7]

Not to mention all the Americans he sent to go die in Iraq for no good reason... really unforgivable.

[DMX7]

Donald Trump is so refreshing. Republicans need one of their own to tell it like it is.

[rasuo214]

644542458735525888

Oh the irony.

Why does no one call him out for this shit?

[DMX7]

Why does no one call him out for this shit?

Donald trump is starting too.

[boutons_deux]

Why does no one call him out for this shit?

Scared America bought the Repug CYA LIE that "nobody could have stopped the 9/11 attack".

The 9/11 commission showed gross incompetence by the WH and its natsec people, and that was only the stuff that dickhead allowed the 9/11 commission to see.

dickhead wouldn't allow the 9/11 commission to depose dubya unless dickhead was present (aka dickhead emasculating dubya).

Rice had NO natsec meetings until after 9/11, because the Repugs ignored Clinton's and Clark's warnings about OBL, didn't think Muslim terrorism was serious.

[DMX7]

The thing we have to remember is that 9/11 really mentally scared many people in the administration and people close to them. It's not just politics that makes Jeb say what he says. He is truly in denial. He has to say those things to convince himself that his brother isn't in any way responsible for all those people who died.

[Clipper Nation]

Jeb! "The Cuck" Bush getting BTFO again by Trump:

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At this point, I'm convinced Jeb! is a masochist with a scat fetish. He keeps trying to stump the Trump, even though he knows full well he's going to get shat on every time.

[Clipper Nation]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKH6PAoUuD0

[Jacob1983]

Jeb has no defense for Dubya. His brother destroyed America. His family has been destroying America for the last 100 years. Props to Trump for finally not wimping out and bashing Jeb when it comes to Dubya.

[DMX7]

Jeb! "The Cuck" Bush getting BTFO again by Trump:

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At this point, I'm convinced Jeb! is a masochist with a scat fetish. He keeps trying to stump the Trump, even though he knows full well he's going to get shat on every time.

Wow... wowwwwwwww...... :wow

Trump is such a boss. :hat

#MakeAmericaGreatAgain

[hater]

:lol Bush family. Destroyed

[boutons_deux]

not-smarter-brother and Hillary are still the two biggest financial favorites of Wall St donors.

[hater]

not-smarter-brother and Hillary are still the two biggest financial favorites of Wall St donors.

They are the safe picks for the corporatocracy and as I said months ago, one of them will be president. Both neocons and both shills

[boutons_deux]

Ted Cruz: Donald Trump is unleashing the ‘volcanic rage’ of voters and that is good for my campaign


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ted-cruz-donald-trump-is-unleashing-the-volcanic-rage-of-voters-and-that-is-good-for-my-campaign/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Krazy Kruz thinks he will pick up the Trump and Carson idiot supporters when those two flame out.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Says He Will Cut The EPA As Prez: 'We'll Be Fine With The Environment'

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-epa-dept-of-education

[boutons_deux]

Trump: My 'Tough' Immigration Policies Would've Prevented 9/11


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-immigration-policies-911

[DMX7]

Trump Says He Will Cut The EPA As Prez: 'We'll Be Fine With The Environment'

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-epa-dept-of-education

What does he mean by "we can leave a little bit.."? A little bit of the environment or a little bit of the EPA? Regardless, he needs to stick to Jeb bashing, foreign affairs and immigration. That's his bread and butter... the other issues are almost making him look not fit to be president.

Don't spoil this, Mr. Trump. We need you. America needs you.

[pgardn]

What does he mean by "we can leave a little bit.."? A little bit of the environment or a little bit of the EPA? Regardless, he needs to stick to Jeb bashing, foreign affairs and immigration. That's his bread and butter... the other issues are almost making him look not fit to be president.

Don't spoil this, Mr. Trump. We need you. America needs you.

Oh yeah.

He knows China.
And, Sarah Palin kept a close watch on Russia while in her Alaskan outpost.
The guy is a joke. But I do like the entertainment.

[JoeChalupa]

Trump has proven he has staying power. Can he go all the way!?

[boutons_deux]

Trump has proven he has staying power. Can he go all the way!?

I hope so, although none of the Klowns has a chance against Hillary (but Bernie has all the superior policies).

The people who "support" Donny T poll as NOT wanting him, or Carson, for Pres. They are both protest candidates, not real candidates.

[boutons_deux]

Trump: My 'Tough' Immigration Policies Would've Prevented 9/11

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-immigration-policies-911

Fox Hosts Tell Trump To Direct 9/11 Blame At Bill Clinton, Not Bush

the hosts of "Fox and Friends" on Monday morning proposed that the real estate mogul instead target President Bill Clinton.

Co-host Brian Kilmeade told Trump that he should be "madder" at Clinton "for not taking a legitimate shot at somebody who declared war on us in the '90s."

Kilmeade suggested that Bush was not prepared for the threat of Al Qaeda because it was not adequately discussed before his presidency.

"You have to think about 2001. When we walked in to -- when the president walked into his four years in office, Al Gore and George Bush weren't even debating Al Qaeda, even though Bin Laden declared war on us in 1996," he said.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/brian-kilmeade-trump-bush-clinton-9-11?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

Wonderful Faux, and its Faux History.

Clinton shot cruise missiles at OBL, and got TRASHED by the Repugs accusing him of deflecting from their blow-job witch hunting.

Repugs/Condi had not a single NatSec meeting in 2001 until after 9/11, and IGNORED the OBL/terrorists warning from Clinton's people.

[DMX7]

Clinton shot cruise missiles at OBL, and got TRASHED by the Repugs for trying to deflect from their blow-job witch hunting.


It's so true. If you said that, they would probably still blame Clinton though and say he put himself in that situation where his credibility was damaged and so they were right to be suspicious of why he did that.