trump impeachment watch thread

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lol "dig up dirt".

It's "make up dirt". Didn't you read Schiff's reenactment?

Darrin regurgitating shitty talking points and sounding like Kellyanne.

[pgardn]

Lol "dig up dirt".

It's "make up dirt". Didn't you read Schiff's reenactment?

Yep.
Thats exactly what Trump did.
He asked a foreign country to look up corrupt actions (dirt lol) that a political opponent might have committed. So that foreign country can use their spy agencies to look into a political opponent.
You got it.

This is what your red team must explain as the new, true way the red team does business in elections.
Trump has broken the mold, you back it.

[DarrinS]

Head of this shit show:

"We’ve been very good to your country, very good. No other country has done as much as we have. But you know what? I don’t see much reciprocity here. I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you though. And I’m going to say this only seven times so you better listen good. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand. Lots of it. On this and on that. I’m going to put you in touch with people, not just any people, I am going to put you in touch with the attorney general of the United States, my Attorney General Bill Barr. He’s got the whole weight of the American law enforcement behind him. And I’m going to put you in touch with Rudy. You’re going to love him. Trust me. You know what I’m asking. And so I’m only going to say this a few more times. In a few more ways. And by the way, don’t call me again. I’ll call you when you’ve done what I asked."

[ChumpDumper]

Starting a bogus investigation and publicly announcing it would be the very definition of making up dirt, Darrin.

[Chris]

5 more years of trump then jr will run and 8 years of him

CHAAAAAAAAAAARGE!

[Blake]

5 more years of trump then jr will run and 8 years of him


CHAAAAAAAAAAARGE!

Dynasties good now

[Chris]

Dynasties good now

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[Chris]

A retired Army officer who worked with Democrat “star witness” Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman in Grafenwoher, Germany, claims Vindman “really talked up” President Barack Obama and ridiculed America and Americans in front of Russian military officers.

In an eye-opening thread on Twitter last week, retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel Jim Hickman said that he “verbally reprimanded” Vindman after he heard some of his derisive remarks for himself. “Do not let the uniform fool you,” Hickman wrote. “He is a political activist in uniform.”


Hickman, 52, says he’s a disabled wounded warrior who served in Iraq and Afghanistan and who received numerous medals, including the Purple Heart.

The retired officer said that Vindman, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Ukraine, made fun of the United States to the point that it made other soldiers “uncomfortable.” For example, Hickman told American Greatness that he heard Vindman call Americans “rednecks”—a word that needed to be translated for the Russians. He said they all had a big laugh at America’s expense.

[pgardn]

Head of this shit show:

"We’ve been very good to your country, very good. No other country has done as much as we have. But you know what? I don’t see much reciprocity here. I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you though. And I’m going to say this only seven times so you better listen good. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand. Lots of it. On this and on that. I’m going to put you in touch with people, not just any people, I am going to put you in touch with the attorney general of the United States, my Attorney General Bill Barr. He’s got the whole weight of the American law enforcement behind him. And I’m going to put you in touch with Rudy. You’re going to love him. Trust me. You know what I’m asking. And so I’m only going to say this a few more times. In a few more ways. And by the way, don’t call me again. I’ll call you when you’ve done what I asked."

So Schiff Cant make fun of the president?
The same Guy who doles out the nicknames freely.

It does not matter what Schiff said.
It matters what the president DID.

Again, red team trying to wriggle out by digging at politicians that are a part of the process they don’t like because they really have NO ANSWER for what the president did over the phone.

Bottomline: It’s indefensible. So the way out is to directly address it and claim it’s ok. But if the red team does this they know the consequences that follow; Invite foreign countries to help pick our candidates through our elections. So we are being so kind and global asking for the world to join us in OUR elections.

[pgardn]

A retired Army officer who worked with Democrat “star witness” Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman in Grafenwoher, Germany, claims Vindman “really talked up” President Barack Obama and ridiculed America and Americans in front of Russian military officers.

In an eye-opening thread on Twitter last week, retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel Jim Hickman said that he “verbally reprimanded” Vindman after he heard some of his derisive remarks for himself. “Do not let the uniform fool you,” Hickman wrote. “He is a political activist in uniform.”


Hickman, 52, says he’s a disabled wounded warrior who served in Iraq and Afghanistan and who received numerous medals, including the Purple Heart.

The retired officer said that Vindman, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Ukraine, made fun of the United States to the point that it made other soldiers “uncomfortable.” For example, Hickman told American Greatness that he heard Vindman call Americans “rednecks”—a word that needed to be translated for the Russians. He said they all had a big laugh at America’s expense.

Great.

He did not tell the president what to say over the phone.
Bed made.
Red team can’t explain the phone call.

[TSA]

Yep.
Thats exactly what Obama did.
He asked a foreign country to look up corrupt actions (dirt lol) that a political opponent might have committed. So that foreign country can use their spy agencies to look into a political opponent.
You got it.

This is what your blue team must explain as the new, true way the blue team does business in elections.
Obama has broken the mold, you back it.

FIFY

[Spurs Homer]

Wannabe crime mob boss trump ordered his henchmen to oust the professional career professionals at the state dept.

Henchmen complied with mob boss orders.

Wannabe mob boss shakes down the WOMAN patriot who would NOT stand for this political corruption.
Mob boss threatens her, removes her, slanders her, has his pet poodle Hannity defame her....

Mob boss calls ukrainian president and extorts him, solicits a bribe from him using the 400 million dollars of our taxpayer money to investigate his political opponent of whom he is terrified to face in a legit election.

Mob boss did the same thing in 2016 with another country - a sworn enemy of the USA.

Mob boss gets exposed by the patriot whistleblower and mob boss releases his partial transcript which is in essence - a confession of bribery, extortion & campaign felony violations.

The criminal in the oval office is only doing what any criminal would do - COMMIT CRIMES.

How many crimes does this criminal have to commit before he is prosecuted?



Boil it down....here it is... this will be the END GAME for Republicans/Trumpistas:


EVERYONE in the USA - EVERYONE - is a liar and a corrupt never-trumper.
The intel agencies, FBI, CIA, NSA - all of them.
Congress.
Military/veterans/purple heart recipients
State dept pros
Judicial branch
Democrats
Citizens who do not want a criminal in the oval office


EVERYONE BUT TRUMP IS A DIRTY ROTTEN LIAR.

Only DEAR LEADER is honest!


:lmao:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Trump tries bribing the jury — and no Republican seems bothered by it

Trump is working to buy Senate support with campaign cash.

According to Politico, Trump is tapping his vast fund-raising network for a handful of loyal senators facing tough reelection bids in 2020.
Each of them has signed onto a Republican-backed resolution condemning the inquiry as “unprecedented and undemocratic.”

“Conspicuously absent from the group is Maine Sen.Susan Collins, a politically vulnerable Republican who’s refused to support the resolution and avoided taking a stance on impeachment.


In any world I understand, paying cash to would-be jurors in a pending trial would be called jury tampering and is against the law.


Trump is exerting leverage over a group he badly needs in his corner with an impeachment trial likely coming soon to the Senate—but that also needs him,”



in the Senate Republican bubble where almost nothing that this president does is considered unlawful,

we probably will have to put these actions to the ever-growing list of things-that-should-be-Trump-impeachment counts.



https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trump-tries-bribing-the-jury-and-no-republican-seems-bothered-by-it/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2885 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trump-tries-bribing-the-jury-and-no-republican-seems-bothered-by-it/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2885)

Repugs know that if they oppose Trash, they will be screwed by the RNC and be primaried by the VRWC financing their opponents.

Being a Congressman is a fantastically lucrative job that nobody dares risk Doing The Right Thing

The corruption of money is total and beyond repair by non-violent means.

[boutons_deux]

Another Term For Trump’s Quid Pro Quo?

Extortion.

Former federal prosecutors say the president’s interactions with Ukraine also amount to extortion, as defined by the Hobbs Act.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-ukraine-extortion_n_5dc0a6dde4b0bedb2d5149ee?ncid=newsltus hpmgnews

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[pgardn]

FIFY

with zero links

you are dismissed.

[DMX7]

Trump tries bribing the jury — and no Republican seems bothered by it

Trump is working to buy Senate support with campaign cash.

According to Politico, Trump is tapping his vast fund-raising network for a handful of loyal senators facing tough reelection bids in 2020.
Each of them has signed onto a Republican-backed resolution condemning the inquiry as “unprecedented and undemocratic.”

“Conspicuously absent from the group is Maine Sen.Susan Collins, a politically vulnerable Republican who’s refused to support the resolution and avoided taking a stance on impeachment.


In any world I understand, paying cash to would-be jurors in a pending trial would be called jury tampering and is against the law.



It's not a criminal trial though -- so there is a grey area. Clearly shady though.

[boutons_deux]

It's not a criminal trial though -- so there is a grey area. Clearly shady though.

impeachment being political does not exclude crimes

I'd like to see Trash in prison for 20 years for jury tampering/bribing and international extortion using taxpayer funds

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1191806266668175361?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1191805952602918918?s=19

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1191796366529515520?s=19

:lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

1191787287828455425

So is there anyone on the call now that doesn't implicate Trump?

[boutons_deux]

New DOJ memo says executive branch witnesses must be allowed to bring lawyers to testimony


The Justice Department said attempts by impeachment investigators (http://www.cnn.com/specials/politics/trump-impeachment) to compel testimony from executive branch witnesses about President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine are "legally invalid" unless they allow for the witnesses to bring a government lawyer.

The guidance (https://www.justice.gov/olc/file/1214996/download), from the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel, amounts to

a new legal reasoning that the White House and other agencies can use to stymie House depositions

after Democrats curtailed the previous legal argument that the House wasn't in a formal impeachment inquiry with a vote last week (https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/31/politics/house-impeachment-inquiry-resolution-floor-vote/index.html).

The memo is certain to anger Democrats as it

furthers a strategy of non-cooperation from the White House in the inquiry,

and once again

puts the Justice Department in the position of blocking the President from further scrutiny.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/politics/justice-department-memo-ukraine-testimony/index.html

Tom Hagen just pulling shit out of his fat ass.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

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Sondland said he “always believed that suspending aid to Ukraine was ill-advised,” and although he claims he did not know why the military assistance was initially suspended, Sondland said he later “presumed” that the aid “had become linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement.”

:lol did not know
:lol presumed

[Isitjustme?]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[TSA]

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Not a single witness has confirmed that

[TSA]

1191814959531012096

:lol your boy missed some green highlighting

"I always believed that suspending aid to Ukraine was ill-advised, although I did not know (and still do not know) when, why, or by whom the aid was suspended.

[vy65]

Sondland said he “always believed that suspending aid to Ukraine was ill-advised,” and although he claims he did not know why the military assistance was initially suspended, Sondland said he later “presumed” that the aid “had become linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement.”

:lol did not know
:lol presumed

This is literally the definition of grasping at straws.

You're better off with the "dear leader can quid pro quo whatever he wants" defense.

[CitizenDwayne]

Everybody’s lying except Trump, the professional con man who has made a career of lying about everything.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol your boy missed some green highlighting

"I always believed that suspending aid to Ukraine was ill-advised, although I did not know (and still do not know) when, why, or by whom the aid was suspended.:lmao you've connected a pizza parlor band schedule to Hillary Clinton's drinking baby blood but somehow you can't understand a scheme that Dennison spelled out for you himself.

[Blake]

:lmao you've connected a pizza parlor band schedule to Hillary Clinton's drinking baby blood but somehow you can't understand a scheme that Dennison spelled out for you himself.

:lol

[Chris]

"revised testimony"


https://media1.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/source.gif

[ChumpDumper]

"revised testimony"


https://media1.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/source.gifNot sure why you're laughing.

Explain.

[vy65]

Not sure why you're laughing.

Explain.

Chirp crew doesn’t understand how this is an awful look for Dennison

Three amig:lols

[Spurs Homer]

Trumpistas: 329,999,999 liars in the Usa

1- honest human = dear leader Trump!


lolololol

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1191522866573037568?s=19

Go get em Rand :tu

:lol Even the worthless republicans not wanting anything to do with guy.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's not just that it is revised but that it is revised so that it is now in accord with all the other witnesses to the call and overall effort to get Ukraine to investigate Biden.

It just strikes me how dumb Trump is. The whole narrative got into his head over the Schweizer book and after Clinton Cash did so well for him he tried to egg it along. Only issue is that there is Bannon there to orchestrate it so their stupidity is hung out to dry.

[Reck]

"revised testimony"


https://media1.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/source.gif

What's your problem now? Due process bad now?

This is no different than when someone recants their confession when pressured.

[vy65]

It's not just that it is revised but that it is revised so that it is now in accord with all the other witnesses to the call and overall effort to get Ukraine to investigate Biden.

It just strikes me how dumb Trump is. The whole narrative got into his head over the Schweizer book and after Clinton Cash did so well for him he tried to egg it along. Only issue is that there is Bannon there to orchestrate it so their stupidity is hung out to dry.

He literally lawyered up and revised his testimony to fall in line with the parade of witnesses who hung him out to dry. This isn’t a guy who stands by his initial testimony. This is a guy trying to avoid a charge of perjury.

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1191522866573037568?s=19

Go get em Rand :tu

Subpoena Hunter Biden for what?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He literally lawyered up and revised his testimony to fall in line with the parade of witnesses who hung him out to dry. This isn’t a guy who stands by his initial testimony. This is a guy trying to avoid a charge of perjury.

Anyone who is honest with themselves and with a half a brain can see that there is no witness that supports the "no quid pro" argument while there is a mountain to the affirmative. There are several felonies that correspond to the behavior.

It's going to be interesting if the Senate decides it is not "high crimes and misdemeanors" and votes accordingly. A not vote cannot reasonably be on the merits of the case.

[vy65]

Anyone who is honest with themselves and with a half a brain can see that there is no witness that supports the "no quid pro" argument while there is a mountain to the affirmative. There are several felonies that correspond to the behavior.

It's going to be interesting if the Senate decides it is not "high crimes and misdemeanors" and votes accordingly. A not vote cannot reasonably be on the merits of the case.

It’s kinda comical when you think about it. Historically, the Congress has acted as a check on executive power. Throw a dart at any random Federalist and you’ll see some concern about power consolidating in the executive and the need to have the other branches check that.

A not guilty vote is essentially a ratification of the executive having the power to use the powers of office for his own (political) gain. That’s a pretty drastic departure from the original constitutional design. Question is whether that departure was inevitable.

[boutons_deux]

Impeachment Inquiry Transcript Shows Devin Nunes Desperately Trying to Tie Steele Dossier to Ukraine

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/impeachment-inquiry-transcript-shows-devin-nunes-desperately-trying-to-tie-steele-dossier-to-ukraine/ (https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/impeachment-inquiry-transcript-shows-devin-nunes-desperately-trying-to-tie-steele-dossier-to-ukraine/)

CA doesn't send many Reps to Congress but those they are huge shitbags.

[boutons_deux]

‘A bunch of BS’: Lindsey Graham chairs Senate Judiciary — but refuses to read any transcripts

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee revealed on Tuesday that he is refusing to examine any of the evidence against President Donald Trump.

Following the “do-over” testimony from Ambassador Gordon Sondland, Sen. Lindsey Graham’s defense of Trump was destroyed (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/very-disturbing-lindsey-grahams-2-week-old-trump-defense-gets-blown-to-hell-as-transcript-reveals-quid-pro-quo/).
The South Carolina Republican is now simply refusing to read any of the evidence collected by impeachment inquiry.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/a-bunch-of-bs-lindsey-graham-chairs-senate-judiciary-but-refuses-to-read-any-transcripts/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/a-bunch-of-bs-lindsey-graham-chairs-senate-judiciary-but-refuses-to-read-any-transcripts/)

the "law and order" Repugs don't GAS about any law that curtails thems

[pgardn]

Sondland said he “always believed that suspending aid to Ukraine was ill-advised,” and although he claims he did not know why the military assistance was initially suspended, Sondland said he later “presumed” that the aid “had become linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement.”

:lol did not know
:lol presumed


anticorruption...

It dont matter what you call it to sound proper.
He asked a foreign country to find out allegedly incriminating information on a political opponent for the presidency.

You cant change that.

Keep dog paddling while you sink.

[boutons_deux]

corrupt MoscowMitch says today the Repugs would try and acquit their corrupt law-breaking party leader

[pgardn]

It’s kinda comical when you think about it. Historically, the Congress has acted as a check on executive power. Throw a dart at any random Federalist and you’ll see some concern about power consolidating in the executive and the need to have the other branches check that.

A not guilty vote is essentially a ratification of the executive having the power to use the powers of office for his own (political) gain. That’s a pretty drastic departure from the original constitutional design. Question is whether that departure was inevitable.

We had the British and the French both trying to influence us and our silly voting as well. Its bigger than just the branches of government exerting their own type of control. Its frkn outrageous. Even Trump's own ambassadorial choices, who gave to his campaign, are dumbfounded.

The people listening in on that call had to have blood just drain from their body if they understood. Somebody needed to grab the phone and throw it at Trump and explain it to him immediately. Then the orange guy finds out what an fup it is, and thinks he can just admit it and all is fine. This sets a huge precedence for how an incumbent or possibly even candidates can get an huge advantage in an election. Go ask the foreign countries for money and background info. Let them get their intelligence services firmly involved in our elections.

[pgardn]

This is red team and it’s so stupid. From WSJ:

But Trump and some of his closest allies have called for the individual's identity to be publicly revealed, arguing that the president should have the ability to confront his accuser.


Trump needs to release his own name for spouting off on the phone and whistleblowing with those false teeth and lying mouth.

[weebo]

This is red team and it’s so stupid. From WSJ:

But Trump and some of his closest allies have called for the individual's identity to be publicly revealed, arguing that the president should have the ability to confront his accuser.


Trump needs to release his own name for spouting off on the phone and whistleblowing with those false teeth and lying mouth.

We're way past the whistleblower...who cares now

[Chris]

Yeah I would want to sweep the whistle blower under the rug too if I had TDS

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1191913156391657474?s=19

[benefactor]

The Whistlebl:crywer Sh:cryuld be Unmasked

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[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1191913156391657474?s=19

Sixth Amendment


In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence

Impeachment is not a criminal prosecution (in fact a DOJ memo says the POTUS can’t be prosecuted); therefore the sixth amendment does not apply.

Moreover, the whistler blower only brought facts to the attention of Congress. He is not a witness.

[boutons_deux]

"Impeachment is not a criminal prosecution "

... Repugs are using criminal aspects to a strictly political action to confuse their ignorant base, convince them, stupidly easy, that the impeachment is illegit

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1191929199315038209?s=19


Rand flexin on them hoes :lol

[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1191929199315038209?s=19


Rand flexin on them hoes :lol

Rand Paul doesn’t want to touch that Ambassador Sondland testimony question with a 10 foot pole. :lol

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1191929199315038209?s=19


Rand flexin on them hoes :lol

:lol what an idiot.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1191929199315038209?s=19


Rand flexin on them hoes :lollol he's a pussy

[FuzzyLumpkins]

anticorruption...

It dont matter what you call it to sound proper.
He asked a foreign country to find out allegedly incriminating information on a political opponent for the presidency.

You cant change that.

Keep dog paddling while you sink.

And used congressionally appropriated aid to do it.

The aid package passed in February. The aid was finally released ~46 hours after the whistleblowers report went public sometime in September if I remember correctly.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1191798771505598464?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RepLeeZeldin/status/1191817248530477057?s=19


9Jz1TjCphXE

[boutons_deux]

lol he's a pussy

Elected by KY jelly brains, Ayn Rand Paul playing look-at-me, formerly a HUGE privacy advocate.

[Chris]

6th amendment right to face your accuser sorry boots

[boutons_deux]

6th amendment right to face your accuser sorry boots

you're FUCKING willfully confused and duped by Repug bullshit.

6th amendment is for judicial trials, not political impeachment. so eternally G F Y

The whistleblower's claim has been CONFESSED publicly by Trash himself AND IN CONGRESS.

Whistleblower got the shitball rolling, but Trash and others have kept rolling, and there is more to come.

Why did WH secrete the FULL transcript in an isolated, code-word WH server intended for Nat Sec info?

As always, Trash and has mafiya ACT guilty because they ARE guilty.

[ChumpDumper]

6th amendment right to face your accuser sorry bootsArticle I: The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1191929199315038209?s=19


Rand flexin on them hoes :lol

he should reveal what he said to the sr citizen neighbor who gave him a beating and left him in the hospital lololol

[pgardn]

And used congressionally appropriated aid to do it.

The aid package passed in February. The aid was finally released ~46 hours after the whistleblowers report went public sometime in September if I remember correctly.

And Guiliani has switched to radio silence. Lots of decorating to do, but Trump built the cake himself and the red team is dancing all around it because we know it’s really indefensible. Unless they want to consider this call proper conduct. And if that’s so, they might as well just keep the presidency in the Trump family and declare democracy dead. The red team can try to guide the line of kings and queen’s with the likes of McConell, Graham, Paul... should be a great comedy.

[boutons_deux]

Unless they want to consider this call proper conduct.

... and that's exactly what many Repugs and Fox are saying.

Extortion using taxpayer funds is not improper, and "none of anybody's business" (Pirro)

[vy65]

6th amendment right to face your accuser sorry boots

Cite me a single case that the 6th Amendment applies to an impeachment proceeding.

You can’t because it doesn’t.

Stop lying tweetie bird.

[pgardn]

... and that's exactly what many Repugs and Fox are saying.

Extortion using taxpayer funds is not improper, and "none of anybody's business" (Pirro)

If the blue team uses this properly Trump goes down so hard in 2020.

So it will be interesting to see what other mess the orange chaotic slime gets himself into between now and then that the red team must claim as normal business in a democracy. This is not going away and he has a tendency to just make things worse.

[Chris]

Cite me a single case that the 6th Amendment applies to an impeachment proceeding.

You can’t because it doesn’t.

Stop lying tweetie bird.

I'll take the good Senator's word over an ambulance chaser's strawman.

Have a nice day.

[vy65]

https://tenor.com/Z7p8.gif

What authority does the good senator cite that holds the confrontation clause applicable to an impeachment proceeding, my sweet little bird?

[Winehole23]

What authority does the good senator cite that holds the confrontation clause applicable to an impeachment proceeding, my sweet little bird?The authority of repeating a false thing over and over again until people think it true, aka, propaganda.

[Blake]

6th amendment right to face your accuser sorry boots

:lol you're stupid

[vy65]

The authority of repeating a false thing over and over again until people think it true, aka, propaganda.

And predictably runs away with his feathers between his legs when asked to provide actual, legal support for the patent lies he's spreading

[DMX7]

I'll take the good Senator's word over an ambulance chaser's strawman.

Have a nice day.

ad hominem

[DMX7]

It's basically over in terms of making the case for "quid pro quo". Now impeachment is a strictly moral/political decision, not a decision based on the facts. We know the facts. Even Ambassador Sondland, who is not exactly a "Never Trumper", has essentially admitted it... in writing...and under oath.

[boutons_deux]

"Now impeachment is a strictly moral/political decision, not a decision based on the facts"

no.

Impeachment is political, not judicial, BUT is based on facts.

the Ukraine facts are clear, as are the fact of 9 obstructions in the Mueller report.

Pelosi thinks the Mueller report is "nothing", fuck her.

She and the DNC would rather lose to Trash again, than win with Liz or Bernie, who would probably vote Pelosi out of the speakership

[DMX7]

"Now impeachment is a strictly moral/political decision, not a decision based on the facts"

no.

Impeachment is political, not judicial, BUT is based on facts.



No.

I'm talking about the facts related to the allegations. Senators can choose to totally ignore the facts if they like and base their decision on politics, not facts.

That's the reality, like it or not.

[boutons_deux]

Republicans Seek to Swamp Democratic Offices With Anti-Impeachment Calls

The Republican National Committee’s effort was

meant to tie up phone lines of congressional Democrats

as part of a broader plan to defend the president.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/us/politics/impeachment-republican-national-committee.html?link_id=0&can_id=4217e8eb109c68bd0c2e4143dd2d8c15&source=email-the-republicans-hit-a-new-low-please-read-2&email_referrer=email_656905&email_subject=the-republicans-hit-a-new-low-please-read (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/us/politics/impeachment-republican-national-committee.html?link_id=0&can_id=4217e8eb109c68bd0c2e4143dd2d8c15&source=email-the-republicans-hit-a-new-low-please-read-2&email_referrer=email_656905&email_subject=the-republicans-hit-a-new-low-please-read)

With the Repugs, politics has been for decades dirty tricks (Stone, Atwater, Ailes, The Plumbers), lies, slander, total bullshit in their total disregard for actually governing and then governing only for the oligarchy, not For The People.

In that sense, Trash is not an anomaly, simply an out-front, blatant culmination of decades of Repugs' degradation of themselves and America.

[RandomGuy]

It's basically over in terms of making the case for "quid pro quo". Now impeachment is a strictly moral/political decision, not a decision based on the facts. We know the facts. Even Ambassador Sondland, who is not exactly a "Never Trumper", has essentially admitted it... in writing...and under oath.

Sondland reminds me of the guy in Princess Bride with the gate key.

"Where is the gate key?" "I have no gate key." "ok, Fezzig, tear his arms off" "oh, you mean this gate key".

"was there a quid pro quo" "there was no quid pro quo" "everybody else says there was, and you knew about it, perjury carries jail time, you know" "oh you mean this quid pro quo"

[boutons_deux]

Adam Schiff Drops The Hammer On Trump With Public Impeachment Hearings
starts Nov 13

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/06/public-impeachment-hearings.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/06/public-impeachment-hearings.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

Expect Trash, Tom Hagen, and all Repugs, who are ALL bad faith, and right wing hate media to make lots of deflecting, distracting noise.

[vy65]

I'll take the good Senator's word over an ambulance chaser's strawman.

Have a nice day.

Tell you what, buttercup. You come forward with a single case holding that the confrontation clause applies to impeachment proceedings and I'll never post here again. If you can't, you're gone.

This should be a no brainer if you take the good Senator's word over a strawman from an ambulance chaser.

[boutons_deux]

Taylor, Kent, Yovanovitch Will Be First Public Impeachment Testimonies Next Week

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/taylor-kent-yovanovitch-will-be-first-public-impeachment-testimonies-next-week?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/taylor-kent-yovanovitch-will-be-first-public-impeachment-testimonies-next-week?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1192115854655311872?s=19

:wow

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1192124527792271360?s=19

[DMX7]

Taylor, Kent, Yovanovitch Will Be First Public Impeachment Testimonies Next Week

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/taylor-kent-yovanovitch-will-be-first-public-impeachment-testimonies-next-week?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/taylor-kent-yovanovitch-will-be-first-public-impeachment-testimonies-next-week?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)

Those are all powerful witnesses.

[spurraider21]

I'll take the good Senator's word over an ambulance chaser's strawman.

Have a nice day.
if you're going to assess the credibility of the argument based on the source, then even the ambulance chasing attorney would be a better source of authority than a congressman who never went to law school

[boutons_deux]

Those are all powerful witnesses.

exactly, and probably more to come.

Repugs/Trash/Nunes/RPaul screaming about outing the whistleblower (to get him killed) is now, has been, a fool's errand.

Whistleblower won't even show up in Congress, no need.

[vy65]

if you're going to assess the credibility of the argument based on the source, then even the ambulance chasing attorney would be a better source of authority than a congressman who never went to law school

If he was anything other than a coward who hid behind tweets, he'd take me up on my wager.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1191945359620296705?s=19

[RandomGuy]

You [to TSA] omitted the next sentence, where he clearly invites him to talk to his personal laywer, his attorney general, about the Bidden.

Because you didn't quote it doesn't mean I didn't post it or it didn't happen. People here can read all of our posts.

Cherry picking.

He can't acknowledge the other part of what was being asked for. The omission was very deliberate, and obviously so.

[RandomGuy]

It's falling apart on them.

Week in review. It's bribery just wait until you see the transcript, oh well you have to read between the lines and a brief claim it constituted a campaign finance violation. Then it was just wait until you see the whistle blower report but now that it's clear this person doesn't even qualify as a whistle blower they are moving onto the "cover up" angle. Let's see how long it takes to find out who the leaker is and if the rumors that Schiff was involved in writing the phony whistle blower report are true.

Funny watching you guys saying "it is falling apart on them" as the evidence mounts. Multiple people with first hand knowledge all saying the same thing, i.e. that aid was conditioned on an investigation of a political opponent.

You never learn.

[RandomGuy]

Average American citizen here....literally decided today to read about what’s going on with all this impeachment talk. So that may be your answer as to how much people care at this point.....if I’m truly average anyway.

Based on what you read, what do you think?

Had a few weeks for this to percolate.

Seems pretty obvious that the fact is a sitting president used government resources to extort another country into investigating a political rival. Republicans not even trying to deny this anymore.

The question is, what do we collectively do about it?

[RandomGuy]

Trump releases actual call from Whistleblower complaint, no threat made, no quid pro quo.

... and there it is.

TSA asserting there was no quid pro quo.


There was a quid pro quo, so what?

There was a quid pro quo

There was a quid pro quo

There was a quid pro quo

Multiple witnesses of the process all said there was one.

Snakeboy, Darrin S and the other useful idiots all chiming in with the party line about "no direct knowledge" when the whistleblower first come out.

TSA himself is unable to answer the simple fucking question as to if Ukraine aid was ever suspended and whose decision it was tell you all you need to know.

Straight up delusion. Trump derangement syndrome.

[ducks]

Support for Impeachment Falls as Inquiry Moves to New Phase
https://morningconsult.com/2019/11/06/support-for-impeachment-falls-as-inquiry-moves-to-new-phase/

[boutons_deux]

Ethically compromised Florida Woman recruited by Trash

Former Florida AG Once Suspected of Engaging in ‘Quid Pro Quo’ with Trump to Join Impeachment Team


https://am22.akamaized.net/lc/cnt/uploads/2019/11/Screen-Shot-2019-11-06-at-3.31.48-PM-1200x628.jpg

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/former-florida-ag-once-suspected-of-engaging-in-quid-pro-quo-with-trump-to-join-impeachment-team/

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1192197603389267969?s=19

[Blake]

Jeez, what an attention whore

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1192197603389267969?s=19
:lmao she didnt call the 6th amendment laughable. she said that calling his bill the whistleblower protection act is laughable. its right there in his own video :lmao

[vy65]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1192197603389267969?s=19


Tell you what, buttercup. You come forward with a single case holding that the confrontation clause applies to impeachment proceedings and I'll never post here again. If you can't, you're gone.

This should be a no brainer if you take the good Senator's word over a strawman from an ambulance chaser.

[pgardn]

I'll take the good Senator's word over an ambulance chaser's strawman.

Have a nice day.

The good senator?

uhm hmm...

[boutons_deux]

Just heard on NPR on civics education

40% of Americans can't name all 3 branches of Fed govt

20% can't name even one

[boutons_deux]

Repug script I heard Ohio shitbag Gym (I ain't so no staff fucking the students) Jordan on NPR

1. (Trash did to extort Z for dirt on Biden) Trash did nothing wrong

2. Trash, like others earlier, only wanted to clear up Ukraine corruption before releasing the funds, weapons, whatever.

3. Dems "secret basement" meetings were unfair, bullshit (even Repugs were in attendance, and Dems followed Repug rules)

... the main points, with lots of noise around those points.

[boutons_deux]

David Frum Calls Out Evolving GOP Impeachment Spin:

They ‘Started Off With a Stupid Argument…

Retreated to a Depraved Argument’

Frum tore into his party’s constant backtracking and shifting spin

to defend President Donald Trump’s conduct toward Ukraine.

Frum alluded to Republican messaging that began six weeks ago with strong pushback to House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry because

there was “no quid pro quo.”

But since then, the party’s talking points have quickly evolved to arguments that the

White House was too “incoherent” (https://www.mediaite.com/trump/lindsey-graham-trump-admin-was-incapable-of-quid-pro-quo-because-of-incoherent-ukraine-policies/) to pull corruption,

that

the damning sworn testimony “proved nothing” (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/kellyanne-conway-claims-transcripts-proved-nothing-sondland-doesnt-know-why-aid-was-held-up/) or was “a bunch of BS” (https://www.mediaite.com/politics/lindsey-graham-dismisses-impeachment-process-bs-after-release-of-sondland-volker-testimony/), or

that Trump’s solicitations to investigate his potential 2020 rival, Joe Bide, was perhaps acceptable (https://www.mediaite.com/news/senate-gop-weighs-new-impeachment-defense-of-trump-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-happened-but-no-corrupt-intent/)

after multiple witnesses have confirmed there was a quid pro quo.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281255&page=103

But Trash, with The Best Biggest Brain(c), has said he's smart enough to know how to do qpq corruption.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Loses It In Louisiana And Flips Out Over Impeachment

Trump flipped out and read the crowd a Fox News conspiracy article about impeachment during his rally in Louisiana.

Trump said,

“Democrats must be accountable for their hoaxes and for their crimes.

Now corrupt politicians Nancy Pelosi and Shifty Adam Schiff and the crooked media have launched the deranged, delusional, destructive and hyperpartisan impeachment witch hunt. Now, we go again.”

Trump then pulled a Fox News conspiracy article about impeachment (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coup-has-started-whistleblowers-attorney-said-in-2017-posts-calling-for-impeachment)out of his pocket and started reading to his rally crowd.

The president stopped reading, called impeachment a sham, and then attacked the media.

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/06/trump-louisiana-impeachment.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/06/trump-louisiana-impeachment.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

:lol shitbag Trash is fucked intellectually, emotionally

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1192197603389267969?s=19

Well, obviously, it *is* laughable, as impeachment is a political proceeding, not a legal one. Now, he's a doctor, not a lawyer, so while it might be excusable, he's still an idiot.

[ElNono]

:lmao she didnt call the 6th amendment laughable. she said that calling his bill the whistleblower protection act is laughable. its right there in his own video :lmao

Yeah, just sad he'll even promote the ankle bite.

[boutons_deux]

Ambassador Bill Taylor is the ‘linchpin’ who will pull together the whole impeachment inquiry

former FBI lawyer James Baker told Chris Cuomo that Ukrainian envoy William

Taylor will be the “critical piece” of the impeachment investigation

“He links everything together,

the two pieces, and

sees a lot going on on both sides, and

trying to figure out what it all means.

And I think he has this credibility and

this background that makes him so believable.

So, anyway, so I see him as a critical piece in all this.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/ambassador-bill-taylor-is-the-linchpin-who-will-pull-together-the-whole-impeachment-inquiry-ex-fbi-counsel/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/ambassador-bill-taylor-is-the-linchpin-who-will-pull-together-the-whole-impeachment-inquiry-ex-fbi-counsel/)

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1192229251489026048?s=19


n-e-t-w'o-r-k

[SnakeBoy]

Well, obviously, it *is* laughable, as impeachment is a political proceeding, not a legal one.

https://media.giphy.com/media/13L53FdeOWIfbq/giphy.gif

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1192303837236932608?s=19

[Chris]

Senator Rand Paul has blocked a Senate resolution backing protection for whistleblowers, adding that legislation he introduced would "make clear" that President Trump should be able to face his accuser - The Hill

[pgardn]

Senator Rand Paul has blocked a Senate resolution backing protection for whistleblowers, adding that legislation he introduced would "make clear" that President Trump should be able to face his accuser - The Hill

Good luck controlling THE DEEP STATE.

Exactly what does the whistleblower have to do with Trump admitting and telling the American people that he asked a foreign power to look for information on a political opponent in the next election?

And now we find out also threaten the foreign country by withholding funds set forth by CONGRESS.

There actually may be a connection, but you won’t get it, because if you do it will tell us that our president thinks it’s ok to ask foreign intelligence services to search for information on his US political opponents.


And now since we have posters who wish to have a king:
I wonder if the orange thing pardons the Saudi (the dude is gonna get convicted) who used twitter to find US citizens critical of the Saudi regime. That would be cool. Just to show the new globalist powers the president can wield. No one can hide anymore, if you are critical of the wrong people we will Putin your ass.

So much contradictory shit that is gonna come back and bite the red team in the ass.

[vy65]

Online cowards supporting the legislation of real life cowards. Unsurprising.

[boutons_deux]

Lindsey Graham's new Trump defense:

Trump administration too stupid to break the law (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/6/1897718/-Lindsey-Graham-s-new-Trump-defense-Trump-administration-too-stupid-to-break-the-law)

“I'm not going to read these transcripts. The whole process is a joke.”

He says he will not even consider the evidence. Lindsey feels that

“the whole process to be a sham” and

therefore, he will not “legitimize it.”

Donald Trump et al are so goddamn stupid, they can’t be involved in a quid pro quo conspiracy.

Because they’re dumb dumbs.

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM:

What I can tell you about the trump policy towards the Ukraine.

It was incoherent.

It depends on who you talk to.

They seem to be incapable of performing a quid pro quo.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/6/1897718/-Lindsey-Graham-s-new-Trump-defense-Trump-administration-too-stupid-to-break-the-law (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/6/1897718/-Lindsey-Graham-s-new-Trump-defense-Trump-administration-too-stupid-to-break-the-law)

[Chris]

Good luck controlling THE DEEP STATE.

Exactly what does the whistleblower have to do with Trump admitting and telling the American people that he asked a foreign power to look for information on a political opponent in the next election?

And now we find out also threaten the foreign country by withholding funds set forth by CONGRESS.

There actually may be a connection, but you won’t get it, because if you do it will tell us that our president thinks it’s ok to ask foreign intelligence services to search for information on his US political opponents.


And now since we have posters who wish to have a king:
I wonder if the orange thing pardons the Saudi (the dude is gonna get convicted) who used twitter to find US citizens critical of the Saudi regime. That would be cool. Just to show the new globalist powers the president can wield. No one can hide anymore, if you are critical of the wrong people we will Putin your ass.

So much contradictory shit that is gonna come back and bite the red team in the ass.

Trump sets foreign policy.

[TSA]

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2019-11-06%20RHJ%20CEG%20to%20State%20-%20Burisma%20Inquiry.pdf

:corn:

[Spurs Homer]

Lol ^ BOOOOM!!!!!

[boutons_deux]

Iowa :lol Grassley :lol and Koch-whore :lol Johnson :lol only concerned about foreign influence in the Obama administration?

But no concern about sovereign funds, etc spending $100Ms at Trash's properties, and then not even staying in the hotel rooms, to buy influence with Trash?

[TSA]

... and there it is.

TSA asserting there was no quid pro quo.






Multiple witnesses of the process all said there was one.

Snakeboy, Darrin S and the other useful idiots all chiming in with the party line about "no direct knowledge" when the whistleblower first come out.

TSA himself is unable to answer the simple fucking question as to if Ukraine aid was ever suspended and whose decision it was tell you all you need to know.

Straight up delusion. Trump derangement syndrome.

Multiple witnesses that you named said they didn't know of one or presumed/assumed. None of them said there was one. Instead of making up fake quotes provide the actual sworn testimony of Taylor, Sondland, Vindland, Volker, and Morrison each actually saying they knew there was a quid pro quo.

[koriwhat]

Multiple witnesses that you named said they didn't know of one or presumed/assumed. None of them said there was one. Instead of making up fake quotes provide the actual sworn testimony of Taylor, Sondland, Vindland, Volker, and Morrison each actually saying they knew there was a quid pro quo.

these losers are strictly reading the liberal clickbait headlines and that's all.

[Chris]

Multiple witnesses that you named said they didn't know of one or presumed/assumed. None of them said there was one. Instead of making up fake quotes provide the actual sworn testimony of Taylor, Sondland, Vindland, Volker, and Morrison each actually saying they knew there was a quid pro quo.

:tu

[boutons_deux]

U.S. House committee says Bolton threatened to sue if subpoenaed

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-sue/u-s-house-committee-says-bolton-threatened-to-sue-if-subpoenaed-idUSKBN1XH2CJ?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29​​ (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-sue/u-s-house-committee-says-bolton-threatened-to-sue-if-subpoenaed-idUSKBN1XH2CJ?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29)

Call his bluff, see what cards he's holding

[ChumpDumper]

Multiple witnesses that you named said they didn't know of one or presumed/assumed. None of them said there was one. Instead of making up fake quotes provide the actual sworn testimony of Taylor, Sondland, Vindland, Volker, and Morrison each actually saying they knew there was a quid pro quo.Why was the aid frozen, TSA?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/jennajameson/status/1192272570545913857?s=19

[boutons_deux]

TSA always trying to prove shit with ankle-biting technical details that have no consequence and technicalities that are supposed to absolve the criminals he defends

Trump-Ukraine scandal:

Taylor transcript details direct quid pro quo via irregular channels – as it happened

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/nov/06/donald-trump-david-hale-news-today-impeachment-inquiry-latest (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/nov/06/donald-trump-david-hale-news-today-impeachment-inquiry-latest)

... plus the supporting circumstantial evidence is fucking OVERWHELMING

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/jennajameson/status/1192272570545913857?s=19No wonder Trump's lawyer is over there so much, amirite?

[TSA]

:tu

I can't wait until RG has to post the sworn testimony of Taylor saying his source for Trump's request was a New York Times article :rollin

[boutons_deux]

Trash admitted his crime in the redacted transcript, the full transcript has been secreted as if it were Nat Sec info because the WH lawyers heard/knew Trash had committed a crime.

[TSA]

TSA always trying to prove shit with ankle-biting technical details that have no consequence and technicalities that are supposed to absolve the criminals he defends

Trump-Ukraine scandal:

Taylor transcript details direct quid pro quo via irregular channels – as it happened

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/nov/06/donald-trump-david-hale-news-today-impeachment-inquiry-latest (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/nov/06/donald-trump-david-hale-news-today-impeachment-inquiry-latest)

... plus the supporting circumstantial evidence is fucking OVERWHELMING




https://twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1192257449790562305

also

https://twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1192226462276804608

:rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Except the Ukrainians did know the aid was withheld.


And Rudy stated he was only working for his client, David Dennison.

[Chris]

I can't wait until RG has to post the sworn testimony of Taylor saying his source for Trump's request was a New York Times article :rollin

:lol

[DarrinS]

1192233144340144128

[ChumpDumper]

1192233144340144128Except we actually have Sondland's testimony.

Seriously, Darrin -- what's your narrative for these events that exonerates Dennison and everyone connected to Dennison?

[pgardn]

Meh...

None of this even matters.
We got what the president himself said over the phone.

Trump asked a foreign leader 8 times to look for compromising information on a political opponent.

Red team still has not addressed the issue except to say there is nothing wrong with the above.
If thats true, lets see that written into law or a new amendment:

Foreign countries may be used by US elected officials and or citizens running for political office to aid in spying and collecting data on opponents for any elected position. The foreign country, agency or individual can be compensated for their election work by use of US tax payer money.

go ahead red team, do it.
Because this is what your orange god did and wants to do.

... just straight out admit the above is legal and acceptable.

[pgardn]

Barr and Guiliani...

Where have they gone?

[pgardn]

Trump sets foreign policy.

Excellent Chris.

Go on... so this means that ________________.

(I can fill it in for you if what you are stating escapes you.)

[Chris]

Meh...

None of this even matters.
We got what the president himself said over the phone.

Trump asked a foreign leader 8 times to look for compromising information on a political opponent.

Red team still has not addressed the issue except to say there is nothing wrong with the above.
If thats true, lets see that written into law or a new amendment:

Foreign countries may be used by US elected officials and or citizens running for political office to aid in spying and collecting data on opponents for any elected position. The foreign country, agency or individual can be compensated for their election work by use of US tax payer money.

go ahead red team, do it.
Because this is what your orange god did and wants to do.

... just straight out admit the above is legal and acceptable.

Trump sets foreign policy.

[TSA]

Meh...

None of this even matters.
We got what the president himself said over the phone.

Trump asked a foreign leader 8 times to look for compromising information on a political opponent.

Red team still has not addressed the issue except to say there is nothing wrong with the above.
If thats true, lets see that written into law or a new amendment:

Foreign countries may be used by US elected officials and or citizens running for political office to aid in spying and collecting data on opponents for any elected position. The foreign country, agency or individual can be compensated for their election work by use of US tax payer money.

go ahead red team, do it.
Because this is what your orange god did and wants to do.

... just straight out admit the above is legal and acceptable.

You accepted it during the last election and didn’t protest, what’s changed?

[boutons_deux]

Barr and Guiliani...

Where have they gone?

Tom Hagen, having impeachably LIED about the Mueller report, is working hard on a report to totally negate the Mueller report

Julie Annie is probably talking his lawyers about his big legal problems.

Manafort, Cohen in prison

yet, for TSA, etc, Trash, ordered to pay $2M of his own money for stealing from his charity, is an angel, perfectly innocent

[ChumpDumper]

You accepted it during the last election and didn’t protest, what’s changed?:lmao still clinging to your conspiracy theory

Do you still believe in pizzagate too?

[koriwhat]

Meh...

None of this even matters.
We got what the president himself said over the phone.

Trump asked a foreign leader 8 times to look for compromising information on a political opponent.

Red team still has not addressed the issue except to say there is nothing wrong with the above.
If thats true, lets see that written into law or a new amendment:

Foreign countries may be used by US elected officials and or citizens running for political office to aid in spying and collecting data on opponents for any elected position. The foreign country, agency or individual can be compensated for their election work by use of US tax payer money.

go ahead red team, do it.
Because this is what your orange god did and wants to do.

... just straight out admit the above is legal and acceptable.

it's quite comical how yall leftys are crying over this ukraine bullshit but have no qualms with 5 eyes spying on the incumbent president or even biden and his son's corruption over there. it's crazy town!

[Nathan89]

KNOWLES: When Leftists Admit Impeachment Is A Coup, Believe Them

"Four and a half months after President Trump’s inauguration, Democratic congressman Al Green announced plans to impeach him. He cited as justification the president’s perfectly legal firing of FBI director James Comey — ironically one of Trump’s most popular decisions on both sides of the aisle — but Green later admitted the real motivation behind impeachment. “I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected,” Green confessed."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/knowles-when-leftists-admit-impeachment-is-a-coup-believe-them

Eventually someone should ask themselves "are we the baddies?".

[ChumpDumper]

When did he admit it was a coup?

[spurraider21]

When did he admit it was a coup?
inaccurate headline

daily wire is the enemy of the people

[ElNono]

https://media.giphy.com/media/13L53FdeOWIfbq/giphy.gif

Yep. The actual question is what does Mitch want in exchange...

[boutons_deux]

Democrats discussing multiple articles of impeachment against Trump

House Democrats have considered drafting as many as three articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump (https://abcnews.go.com/alerts/donald-trump),

In the last two modern impeachment proceedings against Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton,

the House Judiciary Committee sent three and four articles of impeachment, respectively, to the full chamber for consideration, including articles

charging abuse of power,

obstruction of justice, and

contempt of Congress for defying congressional subpoenas.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-discussing-mutiple-articiles-impeachment-trump/story?
id=66822206&te=1&nl=impeachment-briefing&emc=edit_ib_20191108?campaign_id=140&instance_id=13702&segment_id=18619&user_id=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&regi_id=80821797 (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-discussing-mutiple-articiles-impeachment-trump/story?id=66822206&te=1&nl=impeachment-briefing&emc=edit_ib_20191108?campaign_id=140&instance_id=13702&segment_id=18619&user_id=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&regi_id=80821797)

[pgardn]

You accepted it during the last election and didn’t protest, what’s changed?

Links?

Liar.

[pgardn]

it's quite comical how yall leftys are crying over this ukraine bullshit but have no qualms with 5 eyes spying on the incumbent president or even biden and his son's corruption over there. it's crazy town!

Ukraine and Russia both have very corrupt systems.

Please tell me what that has to do with our president asking a foreign country to spy on a political opponent? Or actually, just find something on an opponent and withholding aid. "I have deemed you corrupt so go spy on my opponent." Beautiful...

But, but.... stop it with the shit and answer the question that the entire thread concerns.
Go get everything the Biden's have done, fine.
But... the president ASKING a foreign country to look into a political opponent?

This is exactly what the founding fathers DID NOT want; To make our country susceptible to foreign interference because GB and France were all up in our cracks trying to compromise the elections of a young democracy. But you dont get this? But, but... your silly diversions are like dust grains compared to what this orange nut has done.

Righty.

[koriwhat]

Please tell me what that has to do with our president asking a foreign country to spy on a political opponent? Or actually, just find something on an opponent and withholding aid.?

prove that's the case... same shit the MSM and the loser leftys on the hill can't even prove. they have the transcript but still...

[ChumpDumper]

prove that's the case... same shit the MSM and the loser leftys on the hill can't even prove. they have the transcript but still...Not a transcript.

[koriwhat]

^^^ keep knocking but you can't come in.

[ChumpDumper]

^^^ keep knocking but you can't come in.:lol I don't give a shit. It's not like you would respond intelligently if you actually read anything.

[DarrinS]

https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb110519dAPR20191105034522.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb110519dAPR20191105034522.jpgWhere is your proof that Hunter Biden was being investigated?

Post your source.

[TSA]

Links?

Liar.

I did not find a single link of you protesting this during the last election.

[ChumpDumper]

Because it didn't happen last election.

[pgardn]

prove that's the case... same shit the MSM and the loser leftys on the hill can't even prove. they have the transcript but still...

Trump himself released the transcript.
Did you read it?
If you read it and you understand the history of our democracy and aversion to allowing foreign countries play with our elections you might get it.
so you can start but, but,... we ______________
Avoidance will do you or other Trump lickers no good. The country and the Constitution are larger than Trump. But not for you.

I dont watch the News I read it.
So what do you read for information since MSM is off limits?

[pgardn]

I did not find a single link of you protesting this during the last election.

Protesting what?

Links chicken shit... You wont because they get torn to shreds like your child part pizza stories.

[pgardn]

https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb110519dAPR20191105034522.jpg

Out of all the corruption that goes on in Ukraine Trump picks Biden because ________________
What a bunch of BS.
Oh Biden is by far the worse (even though we have zero evidence but plenty of evidence with Rudy G & buddies)
Honest to God the red team is getting slaughtered on this.

[TSA]

Protesting what?

Links chicken shit... You wont because they get torn to shreds like your child part pizza stories.

Quit playing dumb. Protesting intelligence agencies digging for dirt on Trump and his campaign at the direction of our government. Or do you think all the foreign spies/informants that tried to infiltrate the campaign just did it on their own?

[pgardn]

Quit playing dumb. Protesting intelligence agencies digging for dirt on Trump and his campaign at the direction of our government. Or do you think all the foreign spies/informants that tried to infiltrate the campaign just did it on their own?


Intelligence agencies FROM THIS COUNTRY do background checks on many politicians.

I will tear your links up if you post them.
Its happened before. I can read.
So quit being a chicken shit and post links for the analogous behavior last election.

[TSA]

Intelligence agencies FROM THIS COUNTRY do background checks on many politicians.

I will tear your links up if you post them.
Its happened before. I can read.
So quit being a chicken shit and post links for the analogous behavior last election.

Before we go any further, are you of the belief there were no foreign intelligence assets that tried to infiltrate Trumps campaign? A simple yes or no will do.

[pgardn]

Before we go any further, are you of the belief there were no foreign intelligence assets that tried to infiltrate Trumps campaign? A simple yes or no will do.

Trump and Hillary both had campaign interference by foreign entities. They are not the first pair.

So who guided them in the US.
Asked to do so by whom?

Links that show who in the US asked for foreign intelligence to enter these camps?
And this won’t go any further until I get your links. Stop playing around child parts in pizza sauce.

Then I will compare your overmasters to our current president so you might see the seriousness of this stupid phone call for all to see. OUR PRESIDENT

[johnsmith]

Based on what you read, what do you think?

Had a few weeks for this to percolate.

Seems pretty obvious that the fact is a sitting president used government resources to extort another country into investigating a political rival. Republicans not even trying to deny this anymore.

The question is, what do we collectively do about it?

Meh. I started paying more attention, almost for the entertainment alone. I still don’t see the big deal. Feels like it will come and go and we will all turn the page a month or so from now....much like we have everything else.

[Spurs Homer]

Meh. I started paying more attention, almost for the entertainment alone. I still don’t see the big deal. Feels like it will come and go and we will all turn the page a month or so from now....much like we have everything else.

you dont see a big deal when the us president extorts a foreign leader and solicits a bribe?
to have that leader meddle in our election to help trump?

after inviting russia to meddle in the last election?


its ok with you that foreign govts have a say in our future elections?


so throw out the constitution because dear leader is that precious to you and the gop


ok

[ElNono]

https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb110519dAPR20191105034522.jpg

Even if we assume that's true, Biden's son wasn't a political opponent... not sure how some of you are still overlooking that point.

[ElNono]

Quit playing dumb. Protesting intelligence agencies digging for dirt on Trump and his campaign at the direction of our government. Or do you think all the foreign spies/informants that tried to infiltrate the campaign just did it on their own?

What you're saying is that your conspiracy theory is that US intelligence agencies dug for dirt on Trump (which we now know he had plenty, ie: paying on the down low to fuck a pornstar) directed by the administration at the time but were so incompetent that they could not only not find anything to bring his campaign down, but they instead re-opened an investigation into his political opponent... :lol

This is basically the theory you're presenting (backed up by nothing, obviously).

[boutons_deux]

House GOP looks to protect Trump by raising doubts about motives of his deputies

House Republicans’ latest plan to shield President Trump from impeachment is

to focus on at least three deputies —

U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland,
Trump’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, and
possibly acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney —

who they say could have acted on their own to influence Ukraine policy. :lol

they are sowing doubts about whether Sondland, Giuliani and Mulvaney were actually representing the president or freelancing to pursue their own agendas.

The GOP is effectively offering up the three to be fall guys.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-gop-looks-to-protect-trump-by-raising-doubts-about-motives-of-his-deputies/2019/11/07/aaa14efa-0173-11ea-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-gop-looks-to-protect-trump-by-raising-doubts-about-motives-of-his-deputies/2019/11/07/aaa14efa-0173-11ea-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html)

Total desperation to save a criminal piece of shit.

and they forced Trash to publish the script and confess that he did a qpq

[pgardn]

Meh. I started paying more attention, almost for the entertainment alone. I still don’t see the big deal. Feels like it will come and go and we will all turn the page a month or so from now....much like we have everything else.

As I stated before.

Do the American people understand the history of early foreign interference in our elections and why the founding fathers considered this so off limits? And our president initiates this.... Blue team has work to do with the public airing because some people don’t get it and the red team relies on ignorance for this incredibly serious call.

Is this history and idea really only in the realm of a political nerd... who is not a political nerd. A science nerd, but not a political nerd. People in this country don’t understand our origins thus why there is such surprise in the reaction. Just a phone call, “help us out, we give you money; let’s make this the perfect call”

[pgardn]

Is Rudy going to dive under the bus himself and say he wrote the phone call out for Trump and Trump did not understand what he was doing?

[Spurs Homer]

https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb110519dAPR20191105034522.jpg


Trumpistas still using this lie that the ukrainian prosecutor was fired because he was investigating bidens son -


and the truth is the opposite =

He was fired for NOT investigating corruption.


But the uneducated NEVER seem to get that part - he was NOT investigating corruption and the USA foreign policy will not/should not support governments that allow corruption to flourish.

[pgardn]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1191913156391657474?s=19


6th amendment right to face your accuser sorry boots


I'll take the good Senator's word over an ambulance chaser's strawman.

Have a nice day.

Rand and Chris are sticking with: Trump is a criminal that has been prosecuted.
Even after having stepped on their own 6 th amendment IED.

Amazing....

There is a bunch I don’t read in this forum but this solidifies the assertion that the red team will lie and present excessively disingenuous arguments to back their cause. Honesty is not in the red vocabulary. Facts have alternatives. Yes actually means No, if it fits the red cause. Thread was willing to admit it.

[LkrFan]

More keep me out of jail amnesia
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1192830752326606849?s=19

:lol

[Spurminator]

Even if we assume that's true, Biden's son wasn't a political opponent... not sure how some of you are still overlooking that point.

What's funny about that cartoon is that it presents Trump as "just making an innocent suggestion" on something that Ukraine would have been aware of already. What would ever be the point of Trump even bringing it up on the call?

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1192844258606272512?s=19

Scurred :lol

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1192608377995743234?s=20

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1192608377995743234?s=20

Leaking to journalists =/= following whistleblower protocol

[vy65]

Rand and Chris are sticking with: Trump is a criminal that has been prosecuted.
Even after having stepped on their own 6 th amendment IED.

Amazing....

There is a bunch I don’t read in this forum but this solidifies the assertion that the red team will lie and present excessively disingenuous arguments to back their cause. Honesty is not in the red vocabulary. Facts have alternatives. Yes actually means No, if it fits the red cause. Thread was willing to admit it.

Steve Vladeck, a Supreme Court analyst for CNN and professor at the University of Texas law school, says invoking the Sixth Amendment to suggest that Trump has the right to face the whistleblower "is so wrong as to be embarrassing."

"The text of the Sixth Amendment literally limits its applicability to criminal prosecutions," Vladeck said. "Impeachment is not a criminal prosecution."

"There is no debate," Vladeck continued, "there is no division on the Supreme Court about this, there is no meaningful room for disagreement, this is just flat wrong." He also noted that the amendment does not afford the accused an absolute right to face everyone who contributed to the investigation.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/politics/sixth-amendment-require-whistle-blower-to-face-donald-trump-fact-check/index.html

This is why the coward didn't take my bet. He's content posting lies on here and running away when he gets called out.

[djohn2oo8]

1192870475631939585

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1192608377995743234?s=20

https://twitter.com/SecretsBedard/status/1192512824276406273?s=19

[djohn2oo8]

1192871870976200705

[djohn2oo8]

1192873612316938241

[djohn2oo8]

1192873208778838018

[djohn2oo8]

1192875368954441728

[djohn2oo8]

1192865643751706634

[djohn2oo8]

1192876944460828672

[DarrinS]

Whistleblower be like


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swBtLPWeKbU

[djohn2oo8]

1192870720465965059

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1192608377995743234?s=20It's absolutely correct to point out Obama's war on whistleblowers as a low point. I dedicated a thread contemporaneously because I thought people who expose waste, fraud and abuse in government should be protected from retaliation.

Do you think whistleblowers should be protected from retaliation, Nathan89?

[djohn2oo8]

1192878224751104007

[djohn2oo8]

1192882004540436480

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Apparently PBS is going to broadcast them live then replay them primetime on World.

[djohn2oo8]

1192880199756582912

[djohn2oo8]

1192883050390134784

[djohn2oo8]

1192891011401441280

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1192867994201993216?s=19

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1192867994201993216?s=19

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1192877054255083520

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1192877054255083520

No wonder Schiff wanted to keep this hush hush. It exposes his entire network.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1192888779809402882?s=19

[pgardn]

1192883050390134784

This is interesting.
I thought Bolton and his lawyer were happy to just steer clear of the whole Trump mess.

In representing Mr. Bolton and Mr. Kupperman, Mr. Cooper denied that they were trying to delay proceedings and insisted that their legal position was not coordinated with the White House. Mr. Cooper argued that if the House was serious about an inquiry, then Mr. Bolton would be a logical person to question.

This indicates a client telling his lawyer what he wants.
The lawyer could just continue to say this is a big court mess and we have been put in a difficult spot and until it becomes perfectly clear what the courts have to stay John Bolton will be on vacation.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1192888779809402882?s=19

Great to see Schiff was concerned with protecting the whistleblower’s safety.

[ChumpDumper]

Great to see Schiff was concerned with protecting the whistleblower’s safety.
Qhris and TSA really want this guy dead.

[djohn2oo8]

Qhris and TSA really want this guy dead.
I mean, when you believe in pizza child sex shops, are you really that stable?

[Chris]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/091/TrollFace.jpg

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/091/TrollFace.jpg

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/091/TrollFace.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

Still whining about the whistleblower when witness after witness is destroying whatever narrative you could possibly make up about this.

What is your narrative that explains all this, Qhris?

TSA?

Any takers?

[ChumpDumper]

NARRATOR: There were no takers.

[ChumpDumper]

"We don't talk about sources at this committee. We want more people to come forward. The good thing is that we have continued to have people come forward, voluntarily, to this committee and we want to continue that and I will tell you that that will not happen if we tell you who our sources are and people that come to the committee."

-- Adam Schiff

[djohn2oo8]

1192916038045896704

[djohn2oo8]

1192914822758838278

[djohn2oo8]

1192916617212125185

[koriwhat]

The country and the Constitution are larger than Trump. But not for you.

really, even when you and the rest of the left rolled out russiagate and propped it up for yrs? but but but the constitution though...

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1192867994201993216?s=19

poor roger stone knew the whole time... fucking dumb bitch fiona hill!

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jhseher/status/1192861681963151361

to get....a meeting :rollin

[Chris]

"my source is New York Times" :lmao

[TSA]

"my source is New York Times" :lmao

RandomGuy :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jhseher/status/1192861681963151361

to get....a meeting :rollin

dumb ass

ukraine getting a mtg is a big deal

russia is watching to see if the usa is in ukraines corner to gauge how aggressive they can be

if the us/ukraine relation is strained

it tells russia that their prey is weakened/if ukraine cannot adequately arm themselves - russia can become emboldened

of course you would know this if you read a transcript

the aid was withheld and the mtg was dangled and both were conditioned on ukraine making up dirt on the bidens


then your hero confessed and provided written proof

lololol

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jhseher/status/1192861681963151361

to get....a meeting :rollinAnd that's bribery-- which had been the case going back to the previous Ukraine administration.:tu


Later it was the military aid. That's extortion.:tu

[Chris]

Schiff wanted the "whistleblower" to testify until everyone found out he was working with the "whistleblower" before the complaint was ever filed. Now Schiff wants anonymity even though nowhere in the whistleblower law does it state a whistleblower is entitled to or guaranteed the right to anonymity. The "whistleblower" is an operative placed in the white house by John Brennan.

"6 ways from Sunday"

[ChumpDumper]

Schiff wanted the "whistleblower" to testify until everyone found out he was working with the "whistleblower" before the complaint was ever filed. Now Schiff wants anonymity even though nowhere in the whistleblower law does it state a whistleblower is entitled to or guaranteed the right to anonymity. The "whistleblower" is an operative placed in the white house by John Brennan.

"6 ways from Sunday"Sorry Qhris, all the testimony and Dennison's "transcript" have proved the whistleblower right. Since we have the testimony of people who were actually involved now, what would be the point of having the whistleblower testify?

Explain.

[pgardn]

really, even when you and the rest of the left rolled out russiagate and propped it up for yrs? but but but the constitution though...

what did I have to say about Russia?
You have no fucking clue what I posted.

[pgardn]

Chris, the Lord ourGod, wants to smite the whistleblower.
Let us pray

[koriwhat]

what did I have to say about Russia?
You have no fucking clue what I posted.

you can sit here and make claims that i'm far-right when i'm not even close to that bullshit moniker you're trying to label me with but how dare i assume you're a russiagate peddler... what exactly have you said against the conspiracy theory called russiagate? your silence, if any, speaks volumes!

don't act like you're not just like the rest of the losers here who want to usher in socialistic ideals, communistic ideals, or just plain out far-left bullshit. you libs aren't libs at all and that's why yall are called progressives... progressively moving into a stalinesque utopia.

[djohn2oo8]

1192981945090752512

[pgardn]

you can sit here and make claims that i'm far-right when i'm not even close to that bullshit moniker you're trying to label me with but how dare i assume you're a russiagate peddler... what exactly have you said against the conspiracy theory called russiagate? your silence, if any, speaks volumes!

don't act like you're not just like the rest of the losers here who want to usher in socialistic ideals, communistic ideals, or just plain out far-left bullshit. you libs aren't libs at all and that's why yall are called progressives... progressively moving into a stalinesque utopia.

This exactly what you have so wrong.
Dont post about what I have said when you dont have a fckn clue.
I made many posts about what I thought about Trump colluding with Russia v. Russian interfering with our elections.
You should really stop posting and shut your mouth because you are completely wrong.
Which is not surprising.

And I am supposed to act like I am one of the many lefty losers here?
You are seriously establishing criteria dealing with what a loser is?
You should really stop posting.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1192986699833520128

:corn:

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1192919744669724678?s=20

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1192919744669724678?s=20

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/RepDougCollins/status/1192797181540999168?s=20

[ElNono]

I've got nothing

yep

[ducks]

Bernie Sanders Attacks Bill Gates’ Wealth. Gates Employs Over 100,000 People. Sanders Does Other Things.

[ducks]

Nikki Haley: ‘There’s Just Nothing Impeachable’ About Trump’s Actions

[ElNono]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1192986699833520128

:corn:

Surprised Nunes has time for this, considering he's busy suing twitter users...

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1192986699833520128

:corn:
TSA is falling for it again.

lol dumbass

[koriwhat]

This exactly what you have so wrong.
Dont post about what I have said when you dont have a fckn clue.
I made many posts about what I thought about Trump colluding with Russia v. Russian interfering with our elections.
You should really stop posting and shut your mouth because you are completely wrong.
Which is not surprising.

And I am supposed to act like I am one of the many lefty losers here?
You are seriously establishing criteria dealing with what a loser is?
You should really stop posting.

I think I'll post more now... :tu

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1193181598809763841?s=19

[Winehole23]

George Nader says hi.

[ChumpDumper]

George Nader says hi.:lol i never thought there would be people like Qhris who think child porn is acceptable depending on the political party involved.

[johnsmith]

you dont see a big deal when the us president extorts a foreign leader and solicits a bribe?
to have that leader meddle in our election to help trump?

after inviting russia to meddle in the last election?


its ok with you that foreign govts have a say in our future elections?


so throw out the constitution because dear leader is that precious to you and the gop


ok

I see everyone up in arms because they don’t like the guy and this won’t matter in the long run anyway. ALL politicians are crooks....this changes nothing.

[ducks]

Senate Democrats Face Their Own Risks Over Impeachment
The New York TimesNovember 9, 2019, 8:06 AM MST

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-democrats-face-own-risks-150627442.html

[pgardn]

I think I'll post more now... :tu

K

But remember, everyone follows you.
Especially when you want honest answers to questions.

[ducks]

Trump wants to win even more rural votes in 2020. Democrats are scrambling to catch up

Read more here: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article236982411.html#storylink=cpy

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1193536525872578561?s=19

#MoscowMitch

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1193536525872578561?s=19

#MoscowMitch

How would you defend this...

boiled down - this is what they have to defend:

Extortion = no defense aid/$$$ - unless you smear bidens AND clear Putin


Bribery = IF you help me win 2020 Election - Ill help you defend your country against Russia

and

they have trumps confession and multiple corroborating credible patriot witnesses ....

with a cover- up as the proverbial “cherry on top”

how will they defend that?

[ducks]

In May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.” So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?