trump impeachment watch thread

[velik_m]

Bernie Sanders Attacks Bill Gates’ Wealth. Gates Employs Over 100,000 People. Sanders Does Other Things.

There are 100000 employees of Gates Foundation? That seems a bit high.

[Spurs Homer]

In May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.” So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?

Let me simplify that for you schmucks;

Trump extorted ukraine in 2018 (march 2018) - the same way he extorted ukraine later-
trump said “ill give you javelins - you STOP cooperating with the mueller investigation, DROP the ukraine MANAFORT investigations AND allow KONSTANTINE KILIMNIK - to slip across the border into russia”

Ukraine complied and got their aid/$$$ for 2018


In 2019- TRUMP extorted ukraine again - since it worked so well in 2018

So when you hear your dear leader brag about providing weapons to ukraine and saying he is tougher because obama did not-



He had a reason for giving up those javelins- because the ukrainians were helping him in the mueller investigation

but you dont want to hear the truth - schmucks!

[LkrFan]

How would you defend this...

boiled down - this is what they have to defend:

Extortion = no defense aid/$$$ - unless you smear bidens AND clear Putin


Bribery = IF you help me win 2020 Election - Ill help you defend your country against Russia

and

they have trumps confession and multiple corroborating credible patriot witnesses ....

with a cover- up as the proverbial “cherry on top”

how will they defend that?

Trump's actions are indefensible. Guys on here that pretend to stan for him, I'm convinced are trolling us.

No one in this board would want to be the recipient of any of Trump's shenanigans. So to conscientiously "turn a blind eye" to those that are is just plain wrong tbh.

[koriwhat]

But remember, everyone follows you.

Don't remind me :lol

[Spurs Homer]

Trump's actions are indefensible. Guys on here that pretend to stan for him, I'm convinced are trolling us.

No one in this board would want to be the recipient of any of Trump's shenanigans. So to conscientiously "turn a blind eye" to those that are is just plain wrong tbh.

they absolutely will die on the hill called-trump

they absolutely are “russia’s useful idiots”

they arent trolling- they are traitors who are complicit with russias attack, russia installing a puppet and russias plan to destroy the usa from within

Pelosi: “with Trump-all roads lead to Russia”

[Chris]

^:lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1193612862373142529?s=19

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1193612862373142529?s=19


I remember Lindsey throwing a tantrum when the Dems asked for a complete FBI investigation into the Kavanaugh rapey allegations and the GOP hammered thru and rushed the hearings...

I also remember when the Dems asked for all the documents released from Kavanaughs history - and the GOP rushed thru and hid all those documents - when they weren't dumping a million documents an hour before the trial...

I remember the dems asking Nunes to subpoena Trump Jr, Bannon, etc... in the russia house investigation -

and the GOP acting like trumps cult and denying every request -


but but -

now its

"not fair!"


:cry:cry

[ducks]

Chase Bank CEO Jamie Dimon delivered strong news for President Donald Trump’s 2020 re-election hopes during a “60 Minutes” interview on CBS that aired on Sunday night, saying that the U.S. economy is not showing any signs of letting up and that this is “the most prosperous economy the world has ever seen.”

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1193894144747429889?s=19

Fuck fact checks. What about spell checks? :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1193907271194955776?s=19

Who needs due process when you can alter the optics.

[TSA]

Oh

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1193970160438251520

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1193973002364424193

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1193907271194955776?s=19

Who needs due process when you can alter the optics.


Dems requested a lot of stuff when in the minority

R’s told them to go fuck themselves

2018 blue wave happened- elections have consequences


R’s can go fuck themselves!

[Chris]

Oh

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1193970160438251520

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1193973002364424193

Trump had a typo in his tweet though.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1193968811709476865?s=19

[RandomGuy]

RandomGuy :lmao

I have no idea the fuck you were talking about.

Your argle bargle has gotten so bad, only the people in your cult understand it anymore. Sorry.

[RandomGuy]

Meh. I started paying more attention, almost for the entertainment alone. I still don’t see the big deal. Feels like it will come and go and we will all turn the page a month or so from now....much like we have everything else.

Yeah. That is the true hell of this particular administration. Every week it is some new stupidity, it becomes hard to keep it all straight.

Remember when the administration asked Denmark about buying Greenland?

[RandomGuy]

Multiple witnesses that you named said they didn't know of one or presumed/assumed. None of them said there was one. Instead of making up fake quotes provide the actual sworn testimony of Taylor, Sondland, Vindland, Volker, and Morrison each actually saying they knew there was a quid pro quo.

Answer the simple question.

Was U.S. aid to Ukraine ever held up? If so, when, and who held it up?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1194000457842089984?s=19

[RandomGuy]

https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb110519dAPR20191105034522.jpg

Darrin, why was the prosecutor fired? What was the actual reason? Do you even know?

[RandomGuy]

So much stupid:lol

The call happened...who gives a fuck who outed it or who he worked for or what the fuck ever? Trump isn't even denying it happened. All that matters now is what was actually discussed and the motivations. That's why the interviews are happening.

Eyup.

You will notice a pointed lack of defense of the actions themselves. They are working overtime on the "look over there" defense.

[RandomGuy]

What are the rules for that particular committee? It seems to me, that if committee members can just release witness testimony, then what's the point of the SCIF?

The point of the SCIF is to have a place where you can't and shouldn't fucking have your goddamn cell phone when there are literally top secret documents laying around.

You fucking idiot.

[RandomGuy]

They were paid a long time ago. What? There is no investigation? no something for something?

Translation:

No Benghazi.. :cry :cry

Nothing to investigate. It was a conspiracy theory in a book, with no substance.

[RandomGuy]

I think he guy is an idiot and should have never pulled that bullshit. They can certainly justify impeachment. I just don't think they ultimately can prove quid quo pro since they got their money without an investigation.

Translation:

"It was just attempted murder your honor, please dismiss the case against my client, because no one actually died".

:rolleyes

You will fall for anything.

[ChumpDumper]

Oh

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1193970160438251520

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1193973002364424193:lol this is the stupidest timeline

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1194000457842089984?s=19:lol you guys keep trying the same debunked shit.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1193907271194955776?s=19

Who needs due process when you can alter the optics.

Are there not Rs in the House that are in the meetings? Answer: true

Non-story by Rs who are just grandstanding for Trump.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1194025225110851584?s=19


The president on Monday spoke in his hometown of New York City ahead of the Veterans Day parade. Although the president was behind bulletproof glass, protesters chanted “lock him up” loud enough for him to hear. Chants of “impeach and remove” could also be heard.

Hated in your home country, I mean hometown :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1194025075831398400?s=19

[Chris]

Are there not Rs in the House that are in the meetings? Answer: true

Non-story by Rs who are just grandstanding for Trump.

Nothing to do with my post. Stick to trolling in the NBA forum.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol what would be the purpose of questioning Hunter Biden?

GYM JORDAN: So are you corrupt?

BIDEN: No.

GYM: Well John Solomon said you were.

BIDEN: Who?

GYM: Rosie Memos too.

BIDEN: I don't--

GYM: AHA! CHALUPA! CHECKMATE! NO FURTHER QUESTIONS!

[LkrFan]

Nothing to do with my post. Stick to trolling in the NBA forum.

Absolutely does. Trump knows Rs are able to attend Schiff's meetings, etc. already. He doesn't need more people in there. He's just obstructing justice. Again.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1194025075831398400?s=19:lol anonymous complaints good now

[RandomGuy]

Oh [series for tweets from Stephen McIntyre]

Maybe Stephen McIntyre can tell me if the Ukraine aid got held up and who held that aid up.

[LkrFan]

LtCOL Vindman did his job with valor. Then got fired by a corrupt Commander in Chief. On Veteran's Day! SMFH

[LkrFan]

:lol anonymous complaints good now

:lol

[RandomGuy]

=5th time
Should Trump be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents, TSA? Simple yes or no question.

Sure [denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Well, we have a standard we can both agree on [threatening another country for dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense]. A step forward.
Is Ukraine dependent on US security guarantees and military aid to protect itself from Russia? yes or no.

The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. [denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Another yes.
We are indeed getting somewhere. 1st time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
You might find this link helpful:
https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e

[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer. We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 2nd time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 3rd time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[repeats denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 4th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, posts tweets]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 5th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, posts tweets deflecting from central question of impeachment]

Not really an answer to my question.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. [6th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, answers other posts]



People who cannot answer honest, fair questions are dishonest sophists.

TSA cannot answer answer honest, fair questions.

TSA is a dishonest sophist.
QED


sophist[ sof-ist ]SHOW IPA
EXAMPLES|WORD ORIGINSEE MORE SYNONYMS FOR sophist ON THESAURUS.COM
noun
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any of a class of professional teachers in ancient Greece who gave instruction in various fields, as in general culture, rhetoric, politics, or disputation.
a person belonging to this class at a later period who, while professing to teach skill in reasoning, concerned himself with ingenuity and specious effectiveness rather than soundness of argument.
a person who reasons adroitly and speciously rather than soundly.
The early manifestation of Dunning-Kruger.

Why are you dishonest here?


I already told you I’m not interested in playing your game of hypotheticals just to circle back to your original false claim.

I haven't made any claims yet in the course of this back and forth, dishonest sophist.

I have merely agreed with you:
Trump [should] be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents

I am attempting to determine if that happened based on the facts we can both agree on.

You have not answered any questions that might establish facts relevant to that statement, because you are dishonest.

I am merely curious as to why you are dishonest here. Repeating your refusal to answer questions doesn't really tell me why you are dishonest.

Why are you dishonest here?

[Chris]

Absolutely does. Trump knows Rs are able to attend Schiff's meetings, etc. already. He doesn't need more people in there. He's just obstructing justice. Again.

Stll nothing to do with my post. You just served the same talking point with a side of orange man bad.

[LkrFan]

Stll nothing to do with my post. You just served the same talking point with a side of orange man bad.

Thanks for your admission that Trump is obstructing justice :downspin:

I knew you had class son :toast

[Chris]

Thanks for your admission that Trump is obstructing justice :downspin:

I knew you had class son :toast

Only way that works is if there is a comma after the word still. You can't get anything right. :lol

[LkrFan]

Only way that works is if there is a comma after the word still. You can't get anything right. :lol

:rollin :lmao :rollin

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1194078176739151873?s=19
https://media.giphy.com/media/YHYmMLkOmqoo/giphy.gif

[DMX7]

https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1194078176739151873?s=19


I almost can’t believe you would post that given that Jonah owned him with the facts.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1194078176739151873?s=19
https://media.giphy.com/media/YHYmMLkOmqoo/giphy.gif:lol nice straw man argument

[boutons_deux]

Trash purging NatSec council to be tainted with autocrat Trash sycophants

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman to be removed from National Security Council (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/10/1898525/-Lt-Col-Alexander-Vindman-to-be-removed-from-National-Security-Council)

national security advisor Robert O’Brien, who replaced John Bolton in that position in September, said that Vindman would be leaving his position along with several others as part of a “streamlining” of the National Security Council.

“Everyone who’s detailed at the NSC ... people are going to start going back to their own departments and we’ll bring in new folks,”

there was “any retaliation against him.” In reply, O’Brien said,

“I never retaliate against anyone myself.” :lol so, who else is retaliating? :lol

Asked again

whether Vindman had been scheduled to leave,

O’Brien replied

“there will be a time for everyone who is detailed there.”

The evasion in both of those answers is clear.

Trump has referred to Vindman as a “Never Trumper,” part of a group he described as “human scum.”

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281824&page=16

[boutons_deux]

The GOP has a dark reason for ensuring that Trump is never impeached

the Republican Party is backing Donald Trump in his impeachment fight for obvious reasons — not wanting to lose control of the Oval Office — but that is only part of it.

the GOP would prefer to nip any impeachment talk of a Republican in the bud because it would expose the way they do business.

the latest spin by Republicans is that Trump’s pressuring of Ukraine’s president for dirt on his political opponents in return for foreign aid might be debatable, but that

the effort by the president doesn’t rise to the level of an impeachable offense.
Calling the defense, “more insidious, because in sounding reasonable on the surface it masks

the cancer that is eating the Republican Party and has been, in fact, since before Donald Trump ran for president,”

Tomasky wrote,

“the seemingly reasonable, soft-shell defense of Trump is grounded in that authoritarianism.”

there is a deeper fear among party leaders that

they will be exposed as anything but a party interested in democratic values.

They do not want to admit that any Republican president is capable of doing anything illegal or impeachable while in office.

They simply will not allow that precedent to be established,”

the truth about the modern GOP.

It is an un-American party.

It is not interested in democracy.

It is interested in power.

It doesn’t care how it gets it,”

“Twice in the last five elections,

its presidential candidates have lost the popular vote.

Suppose that had gone the other way around.

Do you think the Electoral College would still exist?"

If they were to acquiesce in the removal of a Republican president, they’d be placing democracy ahead of power. And this is one thing that we know they will not do,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/the-gop-has-a-dark-reason-for-ensuring-that-trump-is-never-impeached-columnist/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-secret-reason-republicans-wont-impeach-trump?ref=home

[johnsmith]

Yeah. That is the true hell of this particular administration. Every week it is some new stupidity, it becomes hard to keep it all straight.

Remember when the administration asked Denmark about buying Greenland?

There...that’s sort of the nail on the head....except that the media is so ridiculous these days that they’ve come up so many unwarranted reasons to get rid of him over the past three years....now that there’s probably a legit reason, average Americans are sitting back and assuming wolf is being called.

[pgardn]

There...that’s sort of the nail on the head....except that the media is so ridiculous these days that they’ve come up so many unwarranted reasons to get rid of him over the past three years....now that there’s probably a legit reason, average Americans are sitting back and assuming wolf is being called.

This is a good point.
Which is why the blue team actually has to explain why this particular phone call is so important as to how this country conducts elections in the future and election laws. This call basically establishes a precedent to allow a president to ask foreign powers to use their intelligence agencies for information on political opponents and use $ to get the job done.

It invites foreign governments (ally or not) to have a role in picking our candidates. This is not good. Now that $ is tied to this business we have a bigger mess.

It should also mean red team members establish a position on the above instead of deflecting because it’s pretty clear they wish the phone call never happened.

[boutons_deux]

media is so ridiculous these days

so many unwarranted reasons to get rid of him over the past three years

average Americans are sitting back and assuming wolf is being called.

goddman, you're fucking stupid

[boutons_deux]

‘I only did a little bit of extortion’: Trump mercilessly mocked over desperate tweets arguing he’s innocent

“In order to continue being the most Transparent President in history, :lol LIE

I will be releasing sometime this week the Transcript of the first, and therefore most important, phone call I had with the President of Ukraine,”

Trump tweeted (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1194035922066714625) Monday night.

“I am sure you will find it tantalizing!” :lol NOT his vocab

Of course, that is the call nobody is talking about.

... the infamous July 25 call ...Trump repeatedly has insisted everyone should “read the transcript” from, despite the fact

he has never released the transcript. :lol


Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)




Just like Schiff fabricated my phone call,
he will fabricate the transcripts that he is making and releasing!

3:24 PM - 11 Nov 2019

Helen Kennedy
(https://twitter.com/HelenKennedy)✔@HelenKennedy
(https://twitter.com/HelenKennedy)
(https://twitter.com/HelenKennedy)Replying to (https://twitter.com/_/status/1194041674739208192)real (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6855)DonaldTrump

You released the aid
two days after the Inspector General alerted Congress that
there was an internal complaint about you withholding it, and
one day after Adam Schiff sent a sept 10 letter asking to see that complaint.
Coincidence?

(https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1194042619497717761)6:01 PM - Nov 11, 2019 (https://twitter.com/HelenKennedy/status/1194042619497717761)

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/i-only-did-a-little-bit-of-extortion-trump-mercilessly-mocked-over-desperate-tweets-arguing-hes-innocent/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2956 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/i-only-did-a-little-bit-of-extortion-trump-mercilessly-mocked-over-desperate-tweets-arguing-hes-innocent/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2956)

[Spurs Homer]

There...that’s sort of the nail on the head....except that the media is so ridiculous these days that they’ve come up so many unwarranted reasons to get rid of him over the past three years....now that there’s probably a legit reason, average Americans are sitting back and assuming wolf is being called.


I am astonished that Americans can have their heads buried so deep in the sand that a reasonable person can only come up with a sad conclusion for our country-

and that is that ...

we absolutely deserve what happens to our democracy.

We absolutely deserve being destroyed from within when the citizens willfully bury their head in the sand while the country is under attack.

[boutons_deux]

“The American people will see when this begins to play out publicly is

an act of corruption unprecedented in its magnitude and its severity,” Schmidt said.

“What we see is

the president of the United States extorting a foreign head of state,

withholding congressionally approved military assistance

to a nation that has a hot war with the Russians on the eastern front,

for the purposes of getting dirt on the president’s political opponent.”


“There has never been in the entire post-World War II period of history,

from Truman through Obama until Trump,

there has never been an act of corruption by an American president quite like this,” he added.

“It is extraordinary and severe.”

​https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/stop-lying-msnbcs-steve-schmidt-rains-hell-on-gop-for-defending-trumps-dime-store-mussolini-schemes/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2956

Can Schiff and the Dems fuck up he impeachment? Chances are pretty good.

We know Pelosi says Mueller's 9 instances of Trash obstruction are "nothing"

[djohn2oo8]

1194278927289798660

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1194252639501979648?s=19

Gym Jordan? :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

I have a prediction for tomorrows shit-show;


There will be a humongous DISTRACTION tomorrow...


yuuuge breaking news will happen really close to the start of the show

just watch

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1194281788916555776?s=19

Whoopsie :lol

[DarrinS]

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1194252639501979648?s=19

Gym Jordan? :lmao


Well, we now know where Chump got that from. :lol

Same source for "Gentry Breitbart", referring to The Federalist

[boutons_deux]

I have a prediction for tomorrows shit-show;


There will be a humongous DISTRACTION tomorrow...


yuuuge breaking news will happen really close to the start of the show

just watch

yep, the Trash + Repug distraction, deflection will be huge.

And the Repugs on the committee will be the biggest shitshow of the day.

[Spurs Homer]

yep, the Trash + Repug distraction, deflection will be huge.

And the Repugs on the committee will be the biggest shitshow of the day.


THat too-

but look for something bigger - something national will break -
and the media will be played again and will run to “chase the ambulance”

maybe some rt wing nut job will take one for team trump

[ChumpDumper]

Well, we now know where Chump got that from. :lol

Same source for "Gentry Breitbart", referring to The FederalistI freely admitted to reading Wilson's tweets, though he isn't the first who used that term IIRC.

It was one of those times I asked you what your news and commentary sources are and you shut the fuck up real quick.

What are you afraid of, Darrin?

[boutons_deux]

Rick Wilson gives Democrats the perfect blueprint to shut down Jim Jordan at impeachment inquiry

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/998682468235468800/SSd1CBtm_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson)Rick Wilson
(https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson)✔@TheRickWilson (https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson)

I will max out to any member of the impeachment committee who

tells Gym Jordan to sit down

until he admits he saw in the showers and

why he covered up sexual abuse of athletes in his program.

7:56 AM - Nov 12, 2019 (https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1194252639501979648)

=============

a wrestling referee claimed that

he informed Jordan and other coaches of sexual misconduct by team doctor Richard Strauss,

who was later found to have sexually abused at least 177 athletes during his tenure at OSU.

The referee is now the second person who says

they informed Jordan directly of allegations of misconduct against Strauss, who worked at OSU from 1979 to 1996.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/rick-wilson-gives-democrats-the-perfect-blueprint-to-shut-down-jim-jordan-at-impeachment-inquiry/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2970 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/rick-wilson-gives-democrats-the-perfect-blueprint-to-shut-down-jim-jordan-at-impeachment-inquiry/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2970)

[RandomGuy]

There...that’s sort of the nail on the head....except that the media is so ridiculous these days that they’ve come up so many unwarranted reasons to get rid of him over the past three years....now that there’s probably a legit reason, average Americans are sitting back and assuming wolf is being called.

The Mueller report showed at least four ,and arguably about nine, solid instances of felony obstruction of justice. Do multiple counts of abusing your office to obstruct justice rise to "warranting" impeachment?

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1194078176739151873?s=19
https://media.giphy.com/media/YHYmMLkOmqoo/giphy.gif
6th amendment starts with "In all criminal prosecutions"

impeachment is not a criminal prosecution

lol

[Chris]

6th amendment starts with "In all criminal prosecutions"

impeachment is not a criminal prosecution

lol

^posts the exact same shit everyone else has

lol

[spurraider21]

^posts the exact same shit everyone else has

lol
^ignores the basic language of the sixth amendment

lol

[Winehole23]

He's right, Cnris.

Why should Trump be treated any differently than Clinton or Nixon?

[Spurs Homer]

The Mueller report showed at least four ,and arguably about nine, solid instances of felony obstruction of justice. Do multiple counts of abusing your office to obstruct justice rise to "warranting" impeachment?


Does ordering a felony -which was carried out and resulted in prison for the person who carried out the orders (cohen)

for “individual 1” warrant impeachment?

[RandomGuy]

Does ordering a felony -which was carried out and resulted in prison for the person who carried out the orders (cohen)

for “individual 1” warrant impeachment?

I would say that yes, ordering the commission of felonies would meet that too. So many crimes... so little giving of shits by Republicans.

[boutons_deux]

Trump aides fear John Bolton's secret notes

John Bolton is the impeachment inquiry's biggest wildcard.

People around the president say

they are worried about what notes Trump's former national security adviser has kept and when he might divulge them.

the former national security adviser was the most prolific note-taker at the top level of the White House and

probably has more details than any impeachment inquiry witness, so far, about President Trump's machinations on Ukraine.



"Bolton was a voracious note-taker, in every meeting," said a source who attended numerous meetings with him.
While others sat and listened in meetings with Trump, Bolton distinguished himself by filling legal pads with contemporaneous notes on what was said in the room.


there is no evidence that Bolton has held onto classified information.

But the unease inside the administration has been churning ever since staff learned that Bolton had signed a book deal to tell about his time working for Trump.

Bolton's book deal is worth $2 million, per AP (https://apnews.com/9d2af632621f453595b9cf3643b936bd?utm_source=newsle tter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top), which suggests he's willing to dish.

https://www.axios.com/john-bolton-impeachment-testimony-secret-notes-8a2f8417-67f3-4a8c-9693-643ff347ede9.html (https://www.axios.com/john-bolton-impeachment-testimony-secret-notes-8a2f8417-67f3-4a8c-9693-643ff347ede9.html)

[Winehole23]

I can barely believe just how stupid this whole scandal is.

All Trump had to do was retweet John Solomon a couple times and let the TSA rubes of the world do the rest.Does John Solomon still have a job at The Hill? He sure has clammed up since Fruman and Parnas got popped.

https://www.propublica.org/article/giuliani-was-close-to-a-podcast-deal-with-the-news-outlet-that-spread-his-ukraine-conspiracies/amp

[pgardn]

^posts the exact same shit everyone else has

lol

And you still cant understand it.

[Winehole23]

Trump aides fear John Bolton's secret notes

John Bolton is the impeachment inquiry's biggest wildcard.

People around the president say

they are worried about what notes Trump's former national security adviser has kept and when he might divulge them.

the former national security adviser was the most prolific note-taker at the top level of the White House and

probably has more details than any impeachment inquiry witness, so far, about President Trump's machinations on Ukraine.



"Bolton was a voracious note-taker, in every meeting," said a source who attended numerous meetings with him.
While others sat and listened in meetings with Trump, Bolton distinguished himself by filling legal pads with contemporaneous notes on what was said in the room.


there is no evidence that Bolton has held onto classified information.

But the unease inside the administration has been churning ever since staff learned that Bolton had signed a book deal to tell about his time working for Trump.

Bolton's book deal is worth $2 million, per AP (https://apnews.com/9d2af632621f453595b9cf3643b936bd?utm_source=newsle tter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top), which suggests he's willing to dish.

https://www.axios.com/john-bolton-impeachment-testimony-secret-notes-8a2f8417-67f3-4a8c-9693-643ff347ede9.html (https://www.axios.com/john-bolton-impeachment-testimony-secret-notes-8a2f8417-67f3-4a8c-9693-643ff347ede9.html)



Bolton has reportedly said US/Turkey relations under DJT are more driven by personal and business concerns than US interests.

It gets little play in this forum, but Trumpworld shenanigans with Turkey have been far more direct, and far more dangerous/disturbing. -- than all the Russiagate stuff rolled up into one big nasty ball, just my opinion.

[Blake]

^posts the exact same shit everyone else has

lol

You're really stupid.

[TSA]

Does John Solomon still have a job at The Hill? He sure has clammed up since Fruman and Parnas got popped.

https://www.propublica.org/article/giuliani-was-close-to-a-podcast-deal-with-the-news-outlet-that-spread-his-ukraine-conspiracies/amp

Was previous Politico/now NYT Vogel also spreading baseless conspiracy theories?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

[Spurs Homer]

Does John Solomon still have a job at The Hill? He sure has clammed up since Fruman and Parnas got popped.

https://www.propublica.org/article/giuliani-was-close-to-a-podcast-deal-with-the-news-outlet-that-spread-his-ukraine-conspiracies/amp

ari melber just reported that solomon left the hill- so as not to have to answer questions about his propaganda and is now a Fox news contributor

TSA’s hero propaganda backfired and got trump impeached lolol

or soon to be impeached

[TSA]

Maybe Stephen McIntyre can tell me if the Ukraine aid got held up and who held that aid up.

Since you’re being lazy and your begging is downright pathetic...

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531?__twitter_impression=true

[Winehole23]

Was previous Politico/now NYT Vogel also spreading baseless conspiracy theories?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446Dunno, what does that have to do withJohn Solomon being Parnas/Fruman/Giuliani's personal media magpie running interferenxe for DJT?

[Chris]

I'm really stupid.

I know.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1194421352255631362?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1194411044552220672?s=19

[Blake]

I know.

No I don't think you do

[TSA]

Dunno, what does that have to do withJohn Solomon being Parnas/Fruman/Giuliani's personal media magpie running interferenxe for DJT?
Opening line :lol

“After John Solomon ran columns in The Hill that touched off a disinformation campaign against Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden”

So was Vogel also pushing a disinformation campaign? Solomon and he both reported the same thing.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1194421352255631362?s=19

Hunter’s fine Papa Joe not so much.

[Winehole23]

Opening line :lol

“After John Solomon ran columns in The Hill that touched off a disinformation campaign against Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden”

So was Vogel also pushing a disinformation campaign? Solomon and he both reported the same thing.Dunno, I'm not familiar with Vogel or his sources. What's your take on that?

[TSA]

Dunno, I'm not familiar with Vogel or his sources. What's your take on that?

It’s a well sourced article and Vogel wasn’t pushing a disinformation campaign.

[Winehole23]

It’s a well sourced article and Vogel wasn’t pushing a disinformation campaign. If, as you suggest, Vogel and Solomon reported the same story using independent sources and reached the same conclusions then John Solomon would seem to have nothing to worry about.


You wouldn't lie about something like this, would you, TSA?

[ChumpDumper]

Does John Solomon still have a job at The Hill? He sure has clammed up since Fruman and Parnas got popped.

https://www.propublica.org/article/giuliani-was-close-to-a-podcast-deal-with-the-news-outlet-that-spread-his-ukraine-conspiracies/amp
The On the Media podcast had a great story on Solomon that shows what a terrible piece of shit he is and how rubes like TSA were taken in by him time after time.

[ChumpDumper]

Since you’re being lazy and your begging is downright pathetic...

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531?__twitter_impression=true

Is this your Chalupa Grande conspiracy theory again?

lol you gullible rube

[ElNono]

Hunter’s fine Papa Joe not so much.

Why not? What’s your conspiracy here?

[TSA]

If, as you suggest, Vogel and Solomon reported the same story using independent sources and reached the same conclusions then John Solomon would seem to have nothing to worry about.


You wouldn't lie about something like this, would you, TSA?

What is John Solomon worries about? And no there is nothing to lie about.

[TSA]

Why not? What’s your conspiracy here?

Terrible optics for a candidate.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol rube

[Winehole23]

What is John Solomon worries about? And no there is nothing to lie about.His employer seems to be concerned John Solomon has compromised himself -- possibly in a career ending fashion -- and might being discredit to them as well.

But, since you've given John Solomon a clean bill of health, they probably have nothing to worry about

[RandomGuy]

=5th time
Should Trump be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents, TSA? Simple yes or no question.

Sure [denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Well, we have a standard we can both agree on [threatening another country for dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense]. A step forward.
Is Ukraine dependent on US security guarantees and military aid to protect itself from Russia? yes or no.

The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. [denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Another yes.
We are indeed getting somewhere. 1st time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
You might find this link helpful:
https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e

[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer. We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 2nd time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 3rd time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[repeats denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 4th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, posts tweets]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 5th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, posts tweets deflecting from central question of impeachment]

Not really an answer to my question.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. [6th time]
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, answers other posts]


[RG repeats question several more times, TSA ignores until finally...]


[Link showing that yes this aid was held up for months after being approved, and was held up directly by Donald Trump]

I don't think having to repeatedly ask you the same question when you aren't honest enough to answer it is lazy. At the very beginning of this thread gave you a link that said exactly that, but was simply trying to get you on the record.

So after over a dozen times being asked a question, we have "yes, Ukraine aid was held up and Trump was the one holding it up".

Now we can continue.

Why was that aid held up?

[TSA]

[RG repeats question several more times, TSA ignores until finally...]



I don't think having to repeatedly ask you the same question when you aren't honest enough to answer it is lazy. At the very beginning of this thread gave you a link that said exactly that, but was simply trying to get you on the record.

So after over a dozen times being asked a question, we have "yes, Ukraine aid was held up and Trump was the one holding it up".

Now we can continue.

Why was that aid held up?


[Link you didn’t read says why aid was held up]

[TSA]

His employer seems to be concerned John Solomon has compromised himself -- possibly in a career ending fashion -- and might being discredit to them as well.

But, since you've given John Solomon a clean bill of health, they probably have nothing to worry about

So what does John Solomon have to worry about? Should Ken Vogel be worried about the same?

[ElNono]

Terrible optics for a candidate.

He's a terrible candidate to begin with... this is the problem with scrapping the bottom of the barrel, tbh

[Winehole23]

So what does John Solomon have to worry about? Should Ken Vogel be worried about the same?Unless Vogel was also taking dictation from the President's personal lawyer and his mobbed up cronies in service of DJT's shadow diplomacy in Ukraine, he probably has nothing to worry about.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1194453795402637313?s=19

[Winehole23]

Even if that were true (has been repeatedly debunked,) the bona fides of the whistleblower is more or less moot at this point. The ICIG found the complaint credible, then Trump, Mulvaney, the "transcript," and multiple WH staffers corroborated the substance of his complaint.

[Winehole23]

You pretty much have to ignore the transcript, the context and DJT's own words to conclude there was no shakedown. DJT dangled US miltary aid and a meeting in exchange for a statement from Ukrainian leadership smearing the Dem frontrunner.

[ducks]

Senators are told they will be made to work SIX days a week for six weeks for Donald Trump's impeachment trial at height of Democratic primary season

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7678773/Senate-2020-candidates-work-SIX-days-week-Trump-impeachment-trial.html

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1194492730984017920?s=19

[johnsmith]

goddman, you're fucking stupid

Your mom didn’t think so. Before she died ya know?

[djohn2oo8]

Gets the popcorn

[boutons_deux]

"GOP aide tells me one plan discussed is for Gym Jordan and others

to repeatedly use the whistleblower’s name as one of several strategies

to blow up the hearings and

make the media report on his identity.

Be prepared for stunts."

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 13, 2019 (https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1194587475789983744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Lawless GOP breaking Federal law to out the now-irrelevant whistleblower.

[Spurs Homer]

Senators are told they will be made to work SIX days a week for six weeks for Donald Trump's impeachment trial at height of Democratic primary season

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7678773/Senate-2020-candidates-work-SIX-days-week-Trump-impeachment-trial.html

maybe they can relieve themselves of that burden with just one simple act;


tell Trump to....


STOP COMMITTING CRIMES!!!

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1194492730984017920?s=19NY Post mischaracterizes the procedure. The trial for removal, if there is one, will be in the US Senate. Impeachment is analogous to indictment by a grand jury.

[boutons_deux]

Nunes is example extraordinaire of the descent, degradation of the Repugs and their cult base

the tweets totally, deservedly trash Nunes

1194637042577096704

[Winehole23]

Nunes is example extraordinaire of the descent, degradation of the Repugs and their cult base

the tweets totally, deservedly trash Nunes

1194637042577096704Sounds like a man who'd sue a fake cow on Twitter.

[boutons_deux]

Sounds like a man who'd sue a fake cow on Twitter.

What CA lacks in quantity of Reps, it triple downs on their shittiness, McCarthy, Nunes, Issa

and the memorable:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Cunningham

btw, CA Repugs are moving to TX to enjoy the cheaper living in a Repug shithole

[johnsmith]

What CA lacks in quantity of Reps, it triple downs on their shittiness, McCarthy, Nunes, Issa

and the memorable:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Cunningham

btw, CA Repugs are moving to TX to enjoy the cheaper living in a Repug shithole


You’re such a beta incel....it’s amazing that you’re still here.

[RandomGuy]

=5th time
Should Trump be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents, TSA? Simple yes or no question.


Sure [denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]


Well, we have a standard we can both agree on [threatening another country for dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense]. A step forward.
Is Ukraine dependent on US security guarantees and military aid to protect itself from Russia? yes or no.


The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. [denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Another yes.
We are indeed getting somewhere. 1st time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
You might find this link helpful:
https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e


[repeats denial that denial several times that a threat was made for dirt]


[Repeats question approximately two dozen times]

[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt, and ignores question]

until finally...


[Link [from an article on Aug 28 before the whistleblower complaint came out] showing that yes this aid was held up for months after being approved, and was held up directly by Donald Trump]


So... we have "yes, Ukraine aid was held up and Trump was the one holding it up".

Now we can continue.

Why was that aid held up?


[Link you didn’t read says why aid was held up]

I did indeed read the link, I wanted to know what your position is. I will assume that your response here means you are going to attempt to stick to the thin lies given before the whistleblowers initial compliant.


The senior administration official, who asked to remain anonymous in order to discuss internal matters, said the president wants to ensure U.S. interests are being prioritized when it comes to foreign assistance, and is seeking assurances that other countries are “paying their fair share.”

We have the method of potential extortion established, now we need to get to the act, and the bribe requested for that extortion. The problem is that we now know it wasn't "US interests" that Trump was worried about, but Trumps own interests. The withholding of funds was the extortion part of Trumps abuse of his office, and the requests for investigation into the debunked Crowdstrike theory and the debunked Biden corruption story are the bribes he wanted in exchange, so that his campaign could have valuable talking points to damage a political rival.



We have established:

Presidents should be impeached if they threaten countries for dirt on political opponents.

Ukraine is vulnerable to threats, because they desperately need our aid, against Russia.

Ukraine aid was being held up directly by Trump.

Trump then asked for valuable, material help for his re-election campaign in the form of investigation into the debunked DNC/Crowdstrike conspiracy theory and Biden family.



Extortion and Bribery, which, by your own given admission should be impeachable.

[RandomGuy]

You’re such a beta incel....it’s amazing that you’re still here.

People ding boutons a lot, but he doesn't run away from his posted material.

The conservatives here love to bash him, but so many like DMC and DarrinS run away the instant their posts are challenged and hide behind personal attacks.

Say what you want about boutons, but he is not as lazy as some of the board conservatives.

[RandomGuy]

Sounds like a man who'd sue a fake cow on Twitter.

Nunes, Jordon, Goetz.

This is the kind of incompetent ass-clownery that is in charge of Trumps "defense". Trump himself is already undercutting some of their defense.

[boutons_deux]

You’re such a beta incel....it’s amazing that you’re still here.

eat my shit, motherfucker

[Winehole23]

lol

1194620896708845570

[Winehole23]

Surprised the president isn't rage-tweeting. Taylor's testimony is really bad for him.

[Winehole23]

1194653384172810240

1194653932947197952

[boutons_deux]

Surprised the president isn't rage-tweeting. Taylor's testimony is really bad for him.

Trash is buddying today with fellow autocrat Erdogan.

Erdogan is forcibly repatriating ISIS fighters to Western European countries as revenge for them punishing Erdogan.

[ChumpDumper]

1194632364497887237

[djohn2oo8]

:lmao Sondland

[djohn2oo8]

1194659652115537920

[ChumpDumper]

This is such a clear cut case of bribery and extortion Trumpistas are going to talk about everything but the facts of the case.

[ChumpDumper]

Thank goodness real attorneys are out here doing extended questioning.

[boutons_deux]

Thank goodness real attorneys are out here doing extended questioning.

Echoes of the prosecutor Barry Berke destroying Levandowski.

[RandomGuy]

This is such a clear cut case of bribery and extortion Trumpistas are going to talk about everything but the facts of the case.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281255&page=175&p=9974684&viewfull=1#post9974684

Took me months to get there. But yeah, expect more attacks on the process, and more vile personal destruction of witnesses, up to and including outright breaking the law and talking about the whistleblower, who Trump has it in for particularly.

The only one person defending the "perfect" call.

[ChumpDumper]

Echoes of the prosecutor Barry Berke destroying Levandowski.I posted I hoped they learned their lesson after that. Looks like they did.

[ducks]

Billions poor in Clinton foundation can then talk to the president talk about bribery

[ChumpDumper]

This is such a clear cut case of bribery and extortion Trumpistas are going to talk about everything but the facts of the case.

Billions poor in Clinton foundation can then talk to the president talk about bribery

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

The Fox News commentators are saying it's a good case for impeachment but not sexy enough theater.

[djohn2oo8]

The Fox News commentators are saying it's a good case for impeachment but not sexy enough theater.
Good thing is Independents want the facts not theater.

[djohn2oo8]

At least for public support

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1194667703551905793?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

That Sondland to Trump call is a bombshell. Taylor's staffer needs to take the stand. Sondland might be fucked for leaving that out.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1194668522670043136?s=19

[Winehole23]

Schizzed out GOP, tbh.

1194664660257198086

[djohn2oo8]

1194668796147048449

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1194653782229094400?s=19
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1194653782229094400?s=19

[LkrFan]

1194668796147048449

"Who was just added" G:lmao Shifty!

[ChumpDumper]

Nunes going full Chalupa Grande.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1194659835398311936?s=19

[RandomGuy]

That Sondland to Trump call is a bombshell. Taylor's staffer needs to take the stand. Sondland might be fucked for leaving that out.

Dude lied his ass off in his initial testimony. "refreshed memory" :lol

You know his lawyers told him he had perjured himself. "oh, you mean this extortion"

My guess is that he left out so much that he will still face charges, even after his revised testimony.

[TSA]

until finally...







I did indeed read the link, I wanted to know what your position is. I will assume that your response here means you are going to attempt to stick to the thin lies given before the whistleblowers initial compliant.



We have the method of potential extortion established, now we need to get to the act, and the bribe requested for that extortion. The problem is that we now know it wasn't "US interests" that Trump was worried about, but Trumps own interests. The withholding of funds was the extortion part of Trumps abuse of his office, and the requests for investigation into the debunked Crowdstrike theory and the debunked Biden corruption story are the bribes he wanted in exchange, so that his campaign could have valuable talking points to damage a political rival.



We have established:

Presidents should be impeached if they threaten countries for dirt on political opponents.

Ukraine is vulnerable to threats, because they desperately need our aid, against Russia.

Ukraine aid was being held up directly by Trump.

Trump then asked for valuable, material help for his re-election campaign in the form of investigation into the debunked DNC/Crowdstrike conspiracy theory and Biden family.



Extortion and Bribery, which, by your own given admission should be impeachable.

There still hasn't been a single witness who has said they were told by Trump military aid was being held by Trump until investigations were announced, not a single one. The closest you've got is one guy testifying he presumed it was being held up for that reason and then testifying Trump never told him that and he didn't know why he presumed it. The rest of the witnesses just heard second and third hand gossip originating from the guy who presumed it.

And :lol at you saying these investigations were not in the U.S. interest and that they've already been debunked. You are so intellectually dishonest it's sad.

Investigating how a former Vice President and now Presidential candidate possibly abused his power of office to help his son make money in Ukraine and China is in the U.S. interests.

Investigating Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election is in the U.S. interest.

Investigating the DNC colluding with Ukraine to meddle in the 2016 election is in the U.S. interest.

None of what you claim has been debunked, quite the opposite.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrainian-officials-meddled-in-2016-election-by-leaking-secret-manafort-ledger-court-says

Investigating how the actually debunked Trump/Russia election collusion investigation started is in the U.S. interest.

When you are willing to admit you were full of shit and none of what you claimed was debunked we can resume our conversation. :bobo

[RandomGuy]

Nunes going full Chalupa Grande.

I keep hearing this, but don't quite get the reference? Link? short version? (can guess from context, but would prefer to have a solid understanding)

[RandomGuy]

There still hasn't been a single witness who has said they were told by Trump military aid was being held by Trump until investigations were announced, not a single one. The closest you've got is one guy testifying he presumed it was being held up for that reason and then testifying Trump never told him that and he didn't know why he presumed it. The rest of the witnesses just heard second and third hand gossip originating from the guy who presumed it.

And :lol at you saying these investigations were not in the U.S. interest and that they've already been debunked. You are so intellectually dishonest it's sad.

Investigating how a former Vice President and now Presidential candidate possibly abused his power of office to help his son make money in Ukraine and China is in the U.S. interests.

Investigating Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election is in the U.S. interest.

Investigating the DNC colluding with Ukraine to meddle in the 2016 election is in the U.S. interest.

None of what you claim has been debunked, quite the opposite.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrainian-officials-meddled-in-2016-election-by-leaking-secret-manafort-ledger-court-says

Investigating how the actually debunked Trump/Russia election collusion investigation started is in the U.S. interest.

When you are willing to admit you were full of shit and none of what you claimed was debunked we can resume our conversation. :bobo

If the threat wasn't explicit you must acquicit?

Johnny Cochrain strikes again.

Nice children you got there, be a shame if something happened to them.

[Winehole23]

I keep hearing this, but don't quite get the reference? Link? short version? (can guess from context, but would prefer to have a solid understanding)just guessing

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/912098938651586560/pu/img/GIPXEOaijDW501OJ.jpg
(https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiBvoKw4eflAhUKRa0KHVYGBQ4QjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Finvestorshub.advfn.com%2Fboards% 2Fread_msg.aspx%3Fmessage_id%3D143313826&psig=AOvVaw0TUWVsr2BYz8S5QcP4j-cv&ust=1573754194068102)

[RandomGuy]

There still hasn't been a single witness who has said they were told by Trump military aid was being held by Trump until investigations were announced, not a single one. The closest you've got is one guy testifying he presumed it was being held up for that reason and then testifying Trump never told him that and he didn't know why he presumed it. The rest of the witnesses just heard second and third hand gossip originating from the guy who presumed it.

And :lol at you saying these investigations were not in the U.S. interest and that they've already been debunked. You are so intellectually dishonest it's sad.

Investigating how a former Vice President and now Presidential candidate possibly abused his power of office to help his son make money in Ukraine and China is in the U.S. interests.

Investigating Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election is in the U.S. interest.

Investigating the DNC colluding with Ukraine to meddle in the 2016 election is in the U.S. interest.

None of what you claim has been debunked, quite the opposite.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrainian-officials-meddled-in-2016-election-by-leaking-secret-manafort-ledger-court-says

Investigating how the actually debunked Trump/Russia election collusion investigation started is in the U.S. interest.

When you are willing to admit you were full of shit and none of what you claimed was debunked we can resume our conversation. :bobo

Can threats be implicit? yes or no.

[TSA]

I keep hearing this, but don't quite get the reference? Link? short version? (can guess from context, but would prefer to have a solid understanding)

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

[TSA]

Can threats be implicit? yes or no.

When you are willing to admit you were full of shit and none of what you claimed was debunked we can resume our conversation :bobo

[ChumpDumper]

For her part, Chalupa Grande is eager to tell her sided of the story. Trump and his cronies are upset and want to die on Manafort Hill.

:lol muh conditions from TSA

[ChumpDumper]

Not one question about the facts of the bribery/extortion so far.

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1194672754353721344

Ok then

[ChumpDumper]

Man, Republican counsel did nothing for 45 minutes. Basically a surrender on the actual issues of impeachment.

Now standby for the five minute Gymnastic routine.

[Reck]

Gym Jordan time!

[ChumpDumper]

Did Gym take some bennies before his time?

[Reck]

Gym Jordan getting his ass whopped. lol

[Luka Doncic]

https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1194667703551905793?s=19
Yeah but according to Trumptards, Chris Wallace is a bleeding heart libtard cuck.

[ChumpDumper]

Gym Jordan getting his ass whopped. lol
1194686661961158656
:lol

[Luka Doncic]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1194684479568306176?s=21

[Spurs Homer]

Shiff was very effective

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1194691190370779137

Mauled by John fucking Cusack. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Gym's yelling that attempted murder isn't a crime.

[boutons_deux]

pitiful Kock Bros tea-bagging whore:

Meadows Says ‘Everyone Has Their Impression Of What Truth Is’ Amid Key Hearing

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/meadows-says-everyone-has-their-impression-of-what-truth-is-amid-key-hearing?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/meadows-says-everyone-has-their-impression-of-what-truth-is-amid-key-hearing?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29)

How Biblical of him, just make your any old shit, believe it's from God talking to you, and believe it.

[boutons_deux]

Devin Nunes' embarrassing performance is going viral on Twitter

Here’s a legal reason why Nunes finds himself so far out to sea right now.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/983523688699125760/LcbsdNVo_bigger.jpg (https://twitter.com/neal_katyal)Neal Katyal
(https://twitter.com/neal_katyal)✔@neal_katyal
(https://twitter.com/neal_katyal)
(https://twitter.com/neal_katyal)I think the President was not served well by Nunes' opening. He's like a bad high school football coach, running the same playbook because it worked last time.

But Ukraine is difft than Mueller.

The accusers are Trump's own Executive Branch employees, and

it goes to Trump's use of his awesome powers as President,

not as a campaign person in 2016.

That's why Republicans have struggled so much to come up with a defense of Trump's conduct.

There's another problem with Nunes' statement...

It has zero acknowledgement that what Trump did was wrong.

It reminds me of a bad Supreme Court advocate,

hiding all the flaws in a case by pretending they just don't exist.

It lacks credibility.

Everyone knows what he did was wrong,

the question is simply if it is impeachable

=============

This is where we remember that

Nunes and the Republicans are not trying to get to the truth, defend the Constitution, or protect the country.

This is performance art for the rubes, who are now learning the catechism of the Alternate Universe Version they will repeat on Facebook.

===============

Can anyone help me make sense of *anything* Devin Nunes has said today?

======

Nunes to actual experts: How come you don’t know about this dumb shit we made up to absolve trump and Russia?

=================

Yup. These aren’t questions that have anything to do with Taylor’s knowledge.

This is Nunes using his time to read Hannity segments into the public record.

=============

Does anyone even know WTF Nunes is babbling about?

=============

Part of Nunes tactic here is to ask Taylor a question with an embedded false premise and

then cite to Taylor saying he wasn't aware of it (because it is false) and

getting Taylor to say "yes" or "that is correct" in response

================

I don't know how Devin Nunes can breathe with his head so far up Trump's ass.

=================

After a brief break in #ImpeachmentHearings (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ImpeachmentHearings?src=hash) Nunes is back spreading some more bs.

I think I need to take a shower.

============

While George Kent speaks eloquently, Devin Nunes is doodling "PREZ NUNES!" in death-metal font.

=============

Devin Nunes preparing for work this morning

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJRAEIZWwAA3Q1s?format=jpg&name=900x900

===============

Bill Taylor testimony may end up forcing Nunes to start babbling about Vince Foster

==============

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1899142

[LkrFan]

kU-wG4017EY

[Reck]

How, do you as a Republican see these text messages and still see no problem? :lol

It's plain to see.

[Blake]

: cry but Ukraine got the money! They really did! Nothing wrong here! :cry

[ChumpDumper]

Essay contests!

[Reck]

:lol the Obama Admin investigated Burisma back in 2014??

LOL

[Spurs Homer]

Just when the Republicans think they successfully derailed the impeachment train...

schiff comes back and expertly guides the train back onto the rails by exposing the misinformation that was spewed by republicans

and by re-establishing all the corroboration that has been already established.

[Spurs Homer]

obama could see into the future!

[RandomGuy]

When you are willing to admit you were full of shit and none of what you claimed was debunked we can resume our conversation :bobo

If I am so full of shit, then why is it I can always answer your questions, and yet you have to ignore, change the subject, and stomp your feet when I ask simple things?

Let's bypass a few rounds of you throwing a temper tantrum then.

Yes, threats can be implicit, and understood by everybody without being explicitly ever stated.

Trump as dumb about things as he is, understands lawsuits from all the times he has been sued for various forms of fraud. I will give him that he may not have been quite so dumb as to make the order explicit.

Which still leaves us with the extortion threat to withhold aid, and the bribe he wanted in return.

[Spurs Homer]

Lol

repugs trying to make a case that

trump really reeeeaaally cares about corruption


hahahahahaha!

[RandomGuy]

There still hasn't been a single witness who has said they were told by Trump military aid was being held by Trump until investigations were announced, not a single one. The closest you've got is one guy testifying he presumed it was being held up for that reason and then testifying Trump never told him that and he didn't know why he presumed it.

Provide any evidence or testimony from any White house official about why the aid was being held up then.

If Trump was holding it up for some reason other than to use it for extortion, i.e. a valid U.S. interest, there should be evidence of that, such as a review of procedures meant to stem potential corruption.

You don't get to wave your arms and claim you have debunked my claim when you haven't done the work.

We have multiple witnesses all saying that the aid was extortion being used for a bribe of help with his reelection campaign. That was implicit and everybody knew it.

Except, for some reason, you.

[Reck]

Trump to Gym Jordan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktDO_LtGSLM

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1194691402145423362?s=19

/thread

[Reck]

Chris right on cue after he was given his marching orders. :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1194664839903363072?s=19

:lmao

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/CarpeDonktum/status/1194705077493288961?s=19
https://media.tenor.com/images/d878619f09b6a0b8728555cb2ea37bd0/tenor.gif

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1194710379844124672?s=19

Gym :lol

[boutons_deux]

shithole TX Repug shit bag in a starring role

Rep. John Ratcliffe symbolizes the GOP FAIL in defending Trump during impeachment proceedings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-mi3gNQ_Zg&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-mi3gNQ_Zg&feature=emb_logo)

[LkrFan]

TSA in the hizzouse in defense of David Dennison
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1194715085828231168?s=19

:lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RepJimBanks/status/1194648152999178242?s=19
https://twitter.com/RepJimBanks/status/1194655492431392768?s=19


https://media.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1194717341386526720?s=19

Like the coward would ever :lol

[weebo]

Pretty damning stuff so far...if it keeps going Trump's presidency is F'd :lol

[RandomGuy]

“In the presence of my staff at a restaurant, Ambassador Sondland called President Trump and told him of his meetings in Kyiv,” Taylor testified. “The member of my staff could hear President Trump on the phone, asking Ambassador Sondland about ‘the investigations.’ Ambassador Sondland told President Trump that the Ukrainians were ready to move forward.”

At the time, the administration had put a hold on nearly $400 million in security aid to Ukraine, which was fighting Russian-backed separatist militias. Taylor said he was dismayed that the aid, which had been allocated by Congress, had not been delivered.

https://news.yahoo.com/taylor-gives-new-detail-on-trumps-desire-for-a-ukrainian-investigation-of-the-bidens-172544365.html

[benefactor]

doginburninghousefine.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Pretty damning stuff so far...if it keeps going Trump's presidency is F'd :lol

It will.

At some point, Bolton et al. will get a judge to tell them: yeah you have to show up to Congress, and then it will start all over again. This will be a steady stream of repeating all the details of the extortion and bribery, which each new witness all saying the same things.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/joelpollak/status/1194715292137656322?s=19

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1194717341386526720?s=19

Like the coward would ever :lol

you continue to laugh it up with the commies in office who want nothing but the worst for our country. it's quite sad and sickening tbh.

trump doesn't have to sit down in front of those dweebs on the hill regardless of the tantrums they throw. the tanscript is out there but like most idiots you love the fake reality tv bullshit because you libs love make believe anyhow.

[boutons_deux]

Moscow Mitch says the Senate will not convict Trash.

Moscow Mitch will do all kinds Constitutional hardass hardball to ensure that Trash will be acquitted.

[koriwhat]

https://news.yahoo.com/taylor-gives-new-detail-on-trumps-desire-for-a-ukrainian-investigation-of-the-bidens-172544365.html

“In the presence of my staff at a restaurant, Ambassador Sondland called President Trump and told him of his meetings in Kyiv,” Taylor testified.


oh so you mean, taylor wasn't there and didn't hear it first hand? wtf is he testifying then and not his "staff"? lmao the left are nothing but clowns!

[koriwhat]

Moscow Mitch says the Senate will not convict Trash.

Moscow Mitch will do all kinds Constitutional hardass hardball to ensure that Trash will be acquitted.

keep crying you pussy :cry

[Chris]

just a turrible turrible day for the coup and NPC :lol DOA

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/joelpollak/status/1194715292137656322?s=19Qhris. Did you watch the actual hearing?

Yes or no.

[boutons_deux]

White House Called Out

for Mocking Dems’ Lack of Firsthand Witnesses:

They’re ‘Telling Aides Not to Testify’

https://am13.akamaized.net/med/cnt/uploads/2019/11/grisham-1-1200x675.jpg

https://www.mediaite.com/news/white-house-called-out-for-mocking-dems-lack-of-firsthand-witnesses-theyre-telling-aides-not-to-testify/

Trash/Barr obstruction of witnesses: impeach both the motherfuckers.

[LkrFan]

you continue to laugh it up with the commies in office who want nothing but the worst for our country. it's quite sad and sickening tbh.

trump doesn't have to sit down in front of those dweebs on the hill regardless of the tantrums they throw. the tanscript is out there but like most idiots you love the fake reality tv bullshit because you libs love make believe anyhow.

Impeaching the Orange Menace IS good for the countryPERIOD.

[Reck]

doginburninghousefine.jpg

Now brought to you in gif form:

https://media.giphy.com/media/z9AUvhAEiXOqA/giphy.gif

[koriwhat]

Impeaching the Orange Menace IS good for the countryPERIOD.

impeachment is never good tbh.

you're just sick with TDS like most on the left. that's how we got here... those in their ivory towers told you and other lemmings that orange man bad was hitler himself and yall bought it hook, line, and sinker but yall call everyone else cultists. it's hilariously sad.

i have asked this of numerous people now, "when did you actually start hating trump?"

i don't want no fake answers either... when was it LkrFan?

[TSA]

If I am so full of shit, then why is it I can always answer your questions, and yet you have to ignore, change the subject, and stomp your feet when I ask simple things?

Let's bypass a few rounds of you throwing a temper tantrum then.

Yes, threats can be implicit, and understood by everybody without being explicitly ever stated.

Trump as dumb about things as he is, understands lawsuits from all the times he has been sued for various forms of fraud. I will give him that he may not have been quite so dumb as to make the order explicit.

Which still leaves us with the extortion threat to withhold aid, and the bribe he wanted in return.

you're literally stomping your feet and changing the subject right here :lol You just claimed the investigations were not in the interest of the U.S. and the theories debunked. Prove you aren't full of shit and back your claims.


How is investigating how a former Vice President and now Presidential candidate possibly abused his power of office to help his son make money in Ukraine and China not in the U.S. interests?

How is investigating Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election not in the U.S. interest?

How is investigating the DNC colluding with Ukraine to meddle in the 2016 election not in the U.S. interest?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrain...ger-court-says

How is investigating how the actually debunked Trump/Russia election collusion investigation started not in the U.S. interest?

[Chris]

When you got nothing just post the dog meme to cope. :lol

[TSA]

It will.

At some point, Bolton et al. will get a judge to tell them: yeah you have to show up to Congress, and then it will start all over again. This will be a steady stream of repeating all the details of the extortion and bribery, which each new witness all saying the same things.

Will one of these new witnesses finally have testimony of an actual order from Trump why aid was withheld and not a guess as to why it was withheld like every witness so far?

[TSA]

Will one of these new witnesses finally have testimony of an actual order from Trump why aid was withheld and not a guess as to why it was withheld like every witness so far?

https://twitter.com/mad_liberals/status/1194708605674622977

:rollin

[boutons_deux]

"an actual order from Trump why aid was withheld and not a guess " ? LOL

Even Repugs now ADMIT it was qpq, but say such abuse of office is OK with Repugs, who want to lower the bar for future Repug authoritarian abuses of office.

Why is Trash/Barr blocking FIRST HAND witnesses from appearing in Congress?

Why did WH lawyers immediately SECRETE the Trash/Z full transcript, the one Trash says we should read :lol,

in a device reserved for Nat Sec info, not meant for political bullshit?

[Luka Doncic]

oh wow, another day where both sides claim they DESTROYED the other side, and nothing actually happens.

[boutons_deux]

oh wow, another day where both sides claim they DESTROYED the other side, and nothing actually happens.

a LOT happened but ignorant Mavs fans are too fucking ignorant to see it

[boutons_deux]

Whistleblower never met or talked with Schiff

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-impeachment-whistleblower/whistleblower-never-met-or-talked-with-schiff-source-idUSKBN1XN2O5?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-impeachment-whistleblower/whistleblower-never-met-or-talked-with-schiff-source-idUSKBN1XN2O5?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews)

and even if wb did meet Schiff, so fucking what?

[Spurs Homer]

Will one of these new witnesses finally have testimony of an actual order from Trump why aid was withheld and not a guess as to why it was withheld like every witness so far?

sure,

when the corrupt and chicken-shit administration stop obstructing witnesses from appearing

then we can watch

mulvaney, pompeo, bolton, perry, julie-yanni

all either man the fuck up and be truthful ot perjure themselves

[TSA]

sure,



:lol Spurs Homer admitting all witnesses to this point are just guessing motive :lol

[koriwhat]

sure,

when the corrupt and chicken-shit administration stop obstructing witnesses from appearing

then we can watch

mulvaney, pompeo, bolton, perry, julie-yanni

all either man the fuck up and be truthful ot perjure themselves

god damn you're a fucking idiot SH

[Reck]

TSA and Chris coping mechanism is to fill their posts with emoticons.

[koriwhat]

TSA and Chris coping mechanism is to fill their posts with emoticons.

and yours is to tuck your noodle between your buttcheeks. :tu

[Chris]

TSA and Chris coping mechanism is to fill their posts with emoticons.

You bring nothing to the table, ever.

[koriwhat]

You bring nothing to the table, ever.

ain't that the truth :tu

[Nathan89]

https://youtu.be/BmjVYIIlTRI

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

you're literally stomping your feet and changing the subject right here :lol You just claimed the investigations were not in the interest of the U.S. and the theories debunked. Prove you aren't full of shit and back your claims.

How is investigating how a former Vice President and now Presidential candidate possibly abused his power of office to help his son make money in Ukraine and China not in the U.S. interests?

How is investigating Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election not in the U.S. interest?

How is investigating the DNC colluding with Ukraine to meddle in the 2016 election not in the U.S. interest?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446[LINK BROKEN-RG]]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrain...ger-court-says[LINK BROKEN-RG]

How is investigating how the actually debunked Trump/Russia election collusion investigation started not in the U.S. interest?

Ah, the "when did you stop beating your wife" tack.

Investigating corruption on the part of US officials is definitely in the US interest.

Investigating foreign interference into US elections is definitely in the US interest.

Your problem though is that Trump was ONLY concerned about corruption stories on the part of his political rivals. This is consistent with his efforts to get a bribe of help with his re-election campaign.


Himes asked State Department official George Kent, one of two witnesses testifying Wednesday, what a “real anti-corruption effort” would look like in Ukraine.

Kent replied that “if we are doing a systemic, holistic program,” the United States needed to depend on institutions with integrity in Ukraine and “that is going to start with investigators and then goes to the prosecutors and the courts and the corrections system.”

Which is what we did in 2014,” Kent said.

He detailed past efforts of the United States to prod Ukraine toward reform, including the establishment of an “anti-corruption team” to look into “unusual wealth” and an “anti-corruption council,” as well as the installation of prosecutors and investigators “that could not be bought and focused on the high level of corruption.”

Himes then read part of a memo released by the White House of the now-infamous July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in which the president asked Ukraine’s leader to coordinate with U.S. Attorney General William Barr to investigate Hunter Biden, the son of former Vice President Joe Biden.

“When you hear that, do you think the president is requesting a well thought out, fully calibrated corruption program?” Himes asked.

“I do not,” Kent replied.

Donald Trump cares about "corruption". :lol

[Nathan89]

"Are we the baddies?"

[Winehole23]

Will one of these new witnesses finally have testimony of an actual order from Trump why aid was withheld and not a guess as to why it was withheld like every witness so far?Perhaps Trump should cooperate with the inquiry and let witnesses be heard instead of ordering them not to testify.

An honest man has nothing to hide, right?

[Spurs Homer]

:lol Spurs Homer admitting all witnesses to this point are just guessing motive :lol

idiot

the evidence has been corroborated already and further witnesses will just make the case stronger

the direct witnesses are all being ordered to hide under their desks by the guilty traitor in chief

boiled down - we have:

EXTORTION = no defense aid $$$ unless you smear bidens and clear PUtin


BRIBERY = If you help me win 2020 election - i will help you defend your country against Russia


no matter how hard you defend

extortion and bribery

you still have extortion and bribery

so go fuck yourself comrade!

[LkrFan]

impeachment is never good tbh.

you're just sick with TDS like most on the left. that's how we got here... those in their ivory towers told you and other lemmings that orange man bad was hitler himself and yall bought it hook, line, and sinker but yall call everyone else cultists. it's hilariously sad.

i have asked this of numerous people now, "when did you actually start hating trump?"

i don't want no fake answers either... when was it LkrFan?

I don't hate him, for the record. I dislike
his ass tho. Since when? Since I read about United States vs Fred Trump (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.clearinghouse.net/chDocs/public/FH-NY-0024-0015.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiG-_CDm-jlAhXBslkKHdoNDlcQFjALegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3VaP8KTrA5hxIu-rlk7uqr) and how Don the Con gladly followed in his racist ass footsteps. Boiled down: the Orange Menace is a certified POS. If I recall correctly, "Equal Housing Lender" was created due to the Trumps. Fuck him and his whole sadistic family tbh.

[Nathan89]

"Are we the baddies?"

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1194710194166497281?s=20

"Hearsay is the most reliable evidence of all. And we got it. A lot of it.":elephant

[koriwhat]

I don't hate him, for the record. I dislike
his ass tho. Since when? Since I read about United States vs Fred Trump (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.clearinghouse.net/chDocs/public/FH-NY-0024-0015.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiG-_CDm-jlAhXBslkKHdoNDlcQFjALegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3VaP8KTrA5hxIu-rlk7uqr) and how Don the Con gladly followed in his racist ass footsteps. Boiled down: the Orange Menace is a certified POS. If I recall correctly, "Equal Housing Lender" was created due to the Trumps. Fuck him and his whole sadistic family tbh.

i doubt the EHL had to due with the trumps but more so with a nationwide problem.

you should deal with jews in a jew community or asians in an asian community, etc... though it's against the law to not rent/sell to whomever those communities aren't very welcoming to outsiders. besides that, look up all your heroes on the left, their neighborhoods, and tell me what demo's reside in them please.

either way, the trumps not renting to certain demo's is despicable to say the least. now, when did you read that memorandum?

thanks for the link btw. i'll save the pdf and read it soon. :tu

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1194710194166497281?s=20

"Hearsay is the most reliable evidence of all. And we got it. A lot of it.":elephant

that's all there's been tbh. a bunch of rumors passed down from one person to the next... what a sad excuse of a party the libs are.

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1194710379844124672?s=19

Gym :lol

:bobo

[koriwhat]

idiot

the evidence has been corroborated already and further witnesses will just make the case stronger

the direct witnesses are all being ordered to hide under their desks by the guilty traitor in chief

boiled down - we have:

EXTORTION = no defense aid $$$ unless you smear bidens and clear PUtin


BRIBERY = If you help me win 2020 election - i will help you defend your country against Russia


no matter how hard you defend

extortion and bribery

you still have extortion and bribery

so go fuck yourself comrade!

well, that's it folks! ST's own retard SH has spoken truth to power and the shit show is over. long live authoritarianism and the totalitarian party dubbed "liberalism"!

[LkrFan]

:bobo

:bobo

[RandomGuy]

https://youtu.be/BmjVYIIlTRI

:lmao

:lmao Jordan made a fool of himself. Again.

[Nathan89]

Perhaps Trump should cooperate with the inquiry and let witnesses be heard instead of ordering them not to testify.

An honest man has nothing to hide, right?

If video of an asshole Indian beating his drum in the face of a teenager didn't stop the media from demonizing an innocent teenager with remarkable restraint then trying to avoid a shit show seems imperative. Your "honest man" platitudes don't mean shit.

[RandomGuy]

Perhaps Trump should cooperate with the inquiry and let witnesses be heard instead of ordering them not to testify.

An honest man has nothing to hide, right?

Don't forget all the documentation that is being held up.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/white-house-refuses-turn-over-documents-democrats-impeachment-inquiry-n1063771

[baseline bum]

Pretty damning stuff so far...if it keeps going Trump's presidency is F'd :lol

You and I both know 100% there is nothing that could make the senate convict. The GOP is terrified by Trump's base and thus is stuck swallowing our Dear Leader's shit.

[RandomGuy]

Will one of these new witnesses finally have testimony of an actual order from Trump why aid was withheld and not a guess as to why it was withheld like every witness so far?

Translation:

"I don't understand the word implicit".

[baseline bum]

It will.

At some point, Bolton et al. will get a judge to tell them: yeah you have to show up to Congress, and then it will start all over again. This will be a steady stream of repeating all the details of the extortion and bribery, which each new witness all saying the same things.

It'll never get a conviction. And no way in hell Bolton is going to want to make his party convict Trump, because it would be handing the country over to the Democrats in January 2021.

[LkrFan]

i doubt the EHL had to due with the trumps but more so with a nationwide problem.

Do your research son


you should deal with jews in a jew community or asians in an asian community, etc... though it's against the law to not rent/sell to whomever those communities aren't very welcoming to outsiders. besides that, look up all your heroes on the left, their neighborhoods, and tell me what demo's reside in them please.
This is white nationalist speak. Who cares what your nationality is? Even Trump's ancestors were immigrants... but look at him now: locking immigrants in cages, get this - for money. Yep, private companies are profiting off of his racism...but of course, Melania's parents got their green card, no problem.


either way, the trumps not renting to certain demo's is despicable to say the least. now, when did you read that memorandum?
I'm very familiar with the Trump crime mobster family son. Been knowing for years.


thanks for the link btw. i'll save the pdf and read it soon. :tu

You got it son. There's more where that came from :tu

[RandomGuy]

Will one of these new witnesses finally have testimony of an actual order from Trump why aid was withheld and not a guess as to why it was withheld like every witness so far?

To answer your question though:

I don't know.

If Trump was holding up the aid for some reason, let's find out what that reason was.

Everybody directly involved seemed to get the message loud and clear that the reason the US government aid was being held up was that it was being used as extortion by Trump to get Trump a bribe from the Ukrainians.

Feel free to present ANY evidence for any other explanation.

A review of aid distribution methods by Trump perhaps? Go ahead... step on the rake.

[ducks]

‘I’m horrified, I’m appalled’: Kellyanne Conway’s lawyer husband tears into Donald Trump over impeachment hearings


Lol he put himself first all lawyers do

[baseline bum]

boiled down - we have:

EXTORTION = no defense aid $$$ unless you smear bidens and clear PUtin


BRIBERY = If you help me win 2020 election - i will help you defend your country against Russia


no matter how hard you defend

extortion and bribery

you still have extortion and bribery

so go fuck yourself comrade!

Not an impeachable offense, unlike say, getting a blowjob while Democrat.

[TSA]

Ah, the "when did you stop beating your wife" tack.

Investigating corruption on the part of US officials is definitely in the US interest.

Investigating foreign interference into US elections is definitely in the US interest.

Your problem though is that Trump was ONLY concerned about corruption stories on the part of his political rivals. This is consistent with his efforts to get a bribe of help with his re-election campaign.



Donald Trump cares about "corruption". :lol

Investigating what happened in the 2016 election and how the bullshit Russia collusion investigation started has nothing to do with Joe Biden/Hunter Biden/Burisma nor any other candidates in the 2020 election. Your claim of Trump ONLY being concerned about corruption stories on the part of his political rivals is bullshit. Still waiting to hear from you how these are debunked and not in the interest of the U.S.

How is investigating Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election not in the U.S. interest? How how Ukraine meddling been debunked?

How is investigating the DNC colluding with Ukraine to meddle in the 2016 election not in the U.S. interest? How has the DNC colluding with Ukraine been debunked?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrain...ger-court-says

How is investigating how the actually debunked Trump/Russia election collusion investigation started not in the U.S. interest?

[RandomGuy]

It'll never get a conviction. And no way in hell Bolton is going to want to make his party convict Trump, because it would be handing the country over to the Democrats in January 2021.

The fact that the Republican party won't do the right thing, does not mean that Democrats shouldn't do the right thing.

The right thing is to rein in a president who is abusing his office. The circumstances of that abuse, from the obstruction of justice in the Mueller report, and the extortion and bribery here, pretty much demand that.

[koriwhat]

Do your research son

principles of real estate never taught me the trumps were responsible for EHL.


This is white nationalist speak. Who cares what your nationality is? Even Trump's ancestors were immigrants... but look at him now: locking immigrants in cages, get this - for money. Yep, private companies are profiting off of his racism...but of course, Melania's parents got their green card, no problem.

you took a hard turn on the issue at hand but whatever... so now we're talking immigrants? i thought at first you were talking about trump not renting to blacks? guess we'll move on from that then... as for immigrants in cages & private companies profiting off of racism ask obama what he would've done instead; oh wait...

[Luka Doncic]

a LOT happened but ignorant Mavs fans are too fucking ignorant to see it
Nothing happened except a bunch of overpaid blowhards blew really hard. Nothing will come of this, because there is nothing Trump could do that would cause his fanbase to turn on him. They could leak a video of Trump shitting on the American flag and Trumptards would defend it by claiming a deep state operate put ex-lax in his Diet Coke.

[koriwhat]

They could leak a video of Trump shitting on the American flag and Trumptards would defend it by claiming a deep state operate put ex-lax in his Diet Coke.

the make believe world yall lefty's live in is so hyperbolic and asinine.

[RandomGuy]

Investigating what happened in the 2016 election and how the bullshit Russia collusion investigation started has nothing to do with Joe Biden/Hunter Biden/Burisma nor any other candidates in the 2020 election. Your claim of Trump ONLY being concerned about corruption stories on the part of his political rivals is bullshit. Still waiting to hear from you how these are debunked and not in the interest of the U.S.

How is investigating Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election not in the U.S. interest? How how Ukraine meddling been debunked?

How is investigating the DNC colluding with Ukraine to meddle in the 2016 election not in the U.S. interest? How has the DNC colluding with Ukraine been debunked?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrain...ger-court-says

How is investigating how the actually debunked Trump/Russia election collusion investigation started not in the U.S. interest?

Both your links are broken.

So, no, you don't have any evidence at all of why the aid was being held up by Trump. Hence the tap dance and obfuscation with the shiny baubles.

Not my job to disprove your conspiracy theories. It is your job to prove them. I have seen no evidence, nor has anyone else that proves them out.

[boutons_deux]

Whistleblower Advocates:

Trump’s Harassment and Intimidation Violates Several Laws and Regulations

Trash has violated several little-known laws and regulations

which specifically require the executive branch to protect whistleblowers in the intelligence community

“Federal employee whistleblower and confidentiality rights are frequently misunderstood,”

“Some confusion about whistleblower rights to confidentiality has emerged

as a media frenzy intensified surrounding the Intelligence Community whistleblower who filed a complaint alleging concerns about President Trump’s conduct in August.”

several federal whistleblower protections in the context of the alleged quid pro quo controversy–and Trump’s arguably unlawful response to those allegations–that’s led to ongoing impeachment hearings in the U.S. House of Representatives.

“Simply stated, President Trump can’t harass and retaliate against a whistleblower for weeks or months on end and

say he is carrying out his duty to enforce the whistleblower statute,”

the depth of the apparent violations here:


There are several statutes and regulations involved that form the framework of legal protections for [intelligence community] whistleblowers, not just one law.

Rather than say the President violated one specific provision it’s more accurate to state that

the President is not carrying out his duty under the [intelligence community] whistleblower statute to ensure enforcement of [intelligence community] whistleblower protections

when you consider how the protections are provided by multiple laws [and] regulations:

50 U.S.C. § 3234, the [Inspector General] Act, Presidential Directive PPD-19 (https://www.dni.gov/index.php/ic-legal-reference-book/presidential-policy-directive-19)…

and other administrative orders and procedures that were implemented by [the Office of the Director of National Intelligence] and the [Intelligence Community Inspector General].

President Trump’s threats to unmask the whistleblower, or asking others to do so,

is the exact opposite of providing for enforcement of the [intelligence community] whistleblower protections.

It’s exacerbating retaliation on the whistleblower that’s prohibited by 50 U.S.C. § 3234 by changing their working conditions through
repeated threats,
subjecting them to ridicule,
accusing them of treason and
comparing them to spies
who should be prosecuted or
implying that they should be imprisoned or executed.


https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/whistleblower-advocates-trumps-harassment-and-intimidation-violates-several-laws-and-regulations/ (https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/whistleblower-advocates-trumps-harassment-and-intimidation-violates-several-laws-and-regulations/)

Lawless Repugs already lowered the bar on complying by vindictively outing covert agent Valerie Plame after her hubby dared to challenge dickhead Cheney's LIES about Iraq-for-oil.

Add Trash's violations of the wb protection statutes to Articles of Impeachment.

[RandomGuy]

Nothing happened except a bunch of overpaid blowhards blew really hard. Nothing will come of this, because there is nothing Trump could do that would cause his fanbase to turn on him. They could leak a video of Trump shitting on the American flag and Trumptards would defend it by claiming a deep state operate put ex-lax in his Diet Coke.

Pretty much.

The play though, is for the middle that isn't paying attention, and the vanishingly small number of Republicans that have any integrity left.

American system is essentially a three person voting block, with voters A, B, and C

A always votes one way, C always votes the opposite.

Leaving B to make the decisions in practice. Substitute A and C for partisan voters, and B for the undecided middle.

[Spurs Homer]

well, that's it folks! ST's own retard SH has spoken truth to power and the shit show is over. long live authoritarianism and the totalitarian party dubbed "liberalism"!

ok druggie - lets test your clouded mind - put the drugs down for a second...

it is the year 2023...

Extortion = Democrat President warren/biden/sanders - calls ukraine -tells them - “find me some shit on ivanka & jared in their dealings with china & saudi arabia and all the billions they raked in when they were in the white house - and i will release the military aid you still need to defend your country

Bribery = dem prez warren/biden/sanders is being challenged by republican candidate nikki haley who leads in all polls by a wide margin- so dem prez says to ukrainian president “you need to publicly announce on cnn that you are opening an investigation into nikki haleys corruption when whe worked in the trump administration - if you do that you can have the aid you need


you would see absolutely zero wrong with that right - and you would absolutely defend the dem prez because you trusted that the dem prez was just doing their job investigating corruption amirite?

[koriwhat]

ok druggie - lets test your clouded mind - put the drugs down for a second...

yall want to keep this bullshit lie up then i won't be having any sort of discussion with you whatsoever.

btw, my mind is clouded by a dragonfruit tea from starbucks right now and a multivitamin so go fuck yourself you retard!

[TSA]

Both your links are broken.

So, no, you don't have any evidence at all of why the aid was being held up by Trump. Hence the tap dance and obfuscation with the shiny baubles.

Not my job to disprove your conspiracy theories. It is your job to prove them. I have seen no evidence, nor has anyone else that proves them out.

You brought up this and said they were debunked and investigating them served no interest to the U.S, not me.

Both links fixed. Both links sourced. Both links prove them out.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrainian-officials-meddled-in-2016-election-by-leaking-secret-manafort-ledger-court-says

Now explain why investigating Ukraine’s role in 2016 election interference is not in the interest of the U.S.

[Spurs Homer]

yall want to keep this bullshit lie up then i won't be having any sort of discussion with you whatsoever.

btw, my mind is clouded by a dragonfruit tea from starbucks right now and a multivitamin so go fuck yourself you retard!


ok - new age enlightened zen dude

answer the original question

[boutons_deux]

Pretty much.

The play though, is for the middle that isn't paying attention, and the vanishingly small number of Republicans that have any integrity left.

American system is essentially a three person voting block, with voters A, B, and C

A always votes one way, C always votes the opposite.

Leaving B to make the decisions in practice. Substitute A and C for partisan voters, and B for the undecided middle.

voters don't enforce laws