Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648356636571140097/4PqUeeRX_bigger.jpg Jon Krawczynski Verified account ‏@APkrawczynski (https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski)

I'm told Thibodeau had a long talk with Pau Gasol last night. Wolves pushing for him. Pau looking hard at Portland, San Antonio as well







https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/441070483392327680/AMrc4vfl_bigger.jpeg Ethan J. Skolnick Verified account ‏@EthanJSkolnick (https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick)

Minnesota and Denver are among the NBA teams that have expressed interest in Heat forward Udonis Haslem

[dbestpro]

I also would not be surprised if everything flames out for the Spurs that there would be a deal in place to bring Splitter back so Atlanta can have the cap space to sign Holford.

[Kikoluna]

If Durant is a no , splitter becomes main option. Even Above gasol. The guy was a blast when healthy. Block on wade comes to mind. And the beautiful partnership with manu.

[BillMc]

If Durant is a no , splitter becomes main option. Even Above gasol. The guy was a blast when healthy. Block on wade comes to mind. And the beautiful partnership with manu.

I'd take Tiago back. But can he stay healthy?

Ian, Pau and an assortment of foreign bigs look like our selection for Timmy replacement (or supplements if he comes back). Pau and Ian may actually be too expensive in this market.

[siraulo23]

Durant meeting started per david aldridge

[BillMc]

Durant meeting started per david aldridge

Cheers. :toast

[Ice009]

Wow. It's on. Time for Pop, RC, LMA and the rest of the guys to work their magic.

[raybies]

749246195139096576

[AFMadison]

It will be in the a.m. so Pop can use this classic line:

http://cdn.quotesgram.com/small/98/23/1629034903-good-morning-good-afternoon-good-evening-and-good-night.jpeg

[dabom]

Cheers. :toast

:bobo

[CGD]

Let's game this out, what happens after:

1. KD politely declined Spurs

2. Spurs offer Pau the full MLE (ugh!)

3. Spurs sign Bertans with full LLE (or whatever it's called now)

4. LJC and Murray signed to rookie deals.

The bigs situation is problematic. It's feeling like Timmy is retiring. Boban is very poachable and all but gone. Unless West signs another minimum deal he's gone.

Don't the Spurs HAVE to bring in Mulitinov whether Duncan retires or not?

[Emperor]

749246195139096576

IT'S HAPPENING!

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/690232680680587264/kAw1ULgW_bigger.jpg Dan Woike Verified account ‏@DanWoikeSports (https://twitter.com/DanWoikeSports)

As I reported last night, Philadelphia has serious interest in Jamal Crawford.

[BillMc]

Wow. It's on. Time for Pop, RC, LMA and the rest of the guys to work their magic.

Hopefully our guys get in a groove, and the wine and "you knows" are flowing and Pop puts it in simple terms:

"You've an opportunity to join and now lead the best, most consistently successful franchise in all of professional sports the last 20 years. Are you ready for that responsibility, if so take it."


:bobo
:toast

[look_at_g_shred]

Any news regarding how his other meetings went?

[look_at_g_shred]

I know last year after every meeting LMA took, there was a report on how he felt about them.

[siraulo23]

Spurs meeting just ended

@daldridgetnt sources say the meeting was intense, at one point durant was crying as kawhi confronted him about his previous "system player" comment. Everyone grew closer and another life lesson was learned

[CGD]

Any news regarding how his other meetings went?

All I've seen:

"Blown away" by Clippers
"Impressed" by warrior

[look_at_g_shred]

Spurs meeting just ended

@daldridgetnt sources say the meeting was intense, at one point durant was crying as kawhi confronted him about his previous "system player" comment. Everyone grew closer and another life lesson was learned
:lmao

[look_at_g_shred]

All I've seen:

"Blown away" by Clippers
"Impressed" by warrior
the clippers..smfh

[Ice009]

Any idea who actually is there for the Spurs. Has there been a reason given for why Kawhi wasn't able to make it? If they were going after it HARD, you would have to think that Kawhi would have been there. I know he's not the greatest talker, but surely you'd still want him there if you were trying to recruit KD. Hopefully they could do a video teleconference between them.

[siraulo23]

Kawhis expecting his first child ^

[siraulo23]

I think woj confirmed aldridge, pop, rc a couple of days ago but no news since then

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/494686813202546689/jeeM5jMw_bigger.jpeg Adrian Wojnarowski Verified account ‏@WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)

Sources on @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical): Boston and Washington have emerged as frontrunners to sign All-Star forward Al Horford.

https://t.co/uS1t0sTDl6

[Ice009]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/494686813202546689/jeeM5jMw_bigger.jpeg Adrian Wojnarowski Verified account ‏@WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)

Sources on @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical): Boston and Washington have emerged as frontrunners to sign All-Star forward Al Horford.

https://t.co/uS1t0sTDl6

The Boston meeting just got a lot more interesting. Are Horford and KD friends or something? Any idea why KD wants to play with him?

[r0drig0lac]

Spurs meeting just ended

@daldridgetnt sources say the meeting was intense, at one point durant was crying as kawhi confronted him about his previous "system player" comment. Everyone grew closer and another life lesson was learned

http://insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/applause.gif

[TheGreatYacht]

Durant or Gasol, please

Just don't bring back Shitter ffs

[tmtcsc]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/494686813202546689/jeeM5jMw_bigger.jpeg Adrian Wojnarowski Verified account ‏@WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)

Sources on @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical): Boston and Washington have emerged as frontrunners to sign All-Star forward Al Horford.

https://t.co/uS1t0sTDl6

I think he's giving Atlanta until tonight to free up money to sign him. If he wants to win he'll go to Boston. There isn't much to think about.

[99 Problems]

Happen:lobt2:ing

[BillMc]

Michael Wright seems to think that Timmy may have joined the meeting after all:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:16699814

Take it for what it's worth. This was recorded this morning, I think.

[raybies]

749261624939319296

Didn't know we could offer more money. That's got to count for something

[Nathan89]

I highly doubt Durant leaves OKC. But if he did hopefully anybody but GSW. If he goes to Boston at least Westbrook would be up for grabs next year.

[Kindergarten Cop]

749261624939319296

Didn't know we could offer more money. That's got to count for something

It's not that we can offer more money per se, it's just that good ol' Uncle Sam (although I realize it's at the state level) takes less away from him.

[Seventyniner]

749261624939319296

Didn't know we could offer more money. That's got to count for something

I think only around half of each amount will be his NBA contract; I guess the rest is known endorsement contracts.

I know about the jock tax, i.e. that players pay taxes based on where the games are located. But do players with large endorsement contracts get to claim residence in a no-state-income-tax state regardless of what team they play for? Or if Durant plays in California would he have to pay state income tax on any non-NBA salary income?

[Ice009]

It's not that we can offer more money per se, it's just that good ol' Uncle Sam (although I realize it's at the state level) takes less away from him.

How does it work over there in the US? Does he end up with more money in hand after taxes are taken out if he signs with the Spurs or Heat even though an OKC contract would be bigger before taxes? or have I got that totally wrong?

[fundamental9903]

Does he end up with more money in hand after taxes are taken out if he signs with the Spurs or Heat even though an OKC contract would be bigger before taxes

That is correct.

[Kindergarten Cop]

How does it work over there in the US? Does he end up with more money in hand after taxes are taken out if he signs with the Spurs or Heat even though an OKC contract would be bigger before taxes? or have I got that totally wrong?

Players that play in states with no state income tax (i.e. Florida and Texas) benefit from not having to pay state taxes on more than half of their annual salary.

[Chinook]

How does it work over there in the US? Does he end up with more money in hand after taxes are taken out if he signs with the Spurs or Heat even though an OKC contract would be bigger before taxes? or have I got that totally wrong?

Yes. Our state governments also have the option to tax income. Several choose not to, with Texas and Florida being the most prominent. So Durant is taxed twice at the other locales. However, it's significantly more complicated than this it making it seem like. The Spurs should should actually be ahead of Miami, because they play more of their games in tax-free states (49) than Miami does (47). And then you get into individual tax rates for the states (like what's worse: playing so many games in CA with its high tax rates for WC teams or playing on the East Coast with it's own high-tax states). It's actually really hard to get accurate numbers.

[Ice009]

Yes. Our state governments also have the option to tax income. Several choose not to, with Texas and Florida being the most prominent. So Durant is taxed twice at the other locales. However, it's significantly more complicated than this it making it seem like. The Spurs should should actually be ahead of Miami, because they play more of their games in tax-free states (49) than Miami does (47). And then you get into individual tax rates for the states (like what's worse: playing so many games in CA with its high tax rates for WC teams or playing on the East Coast with it's own high-tax states). It's actually really hard to get accurate numbers.

Wow. That's crazy. At least it's good to know that the Spurs are not at a disadvantage salary wise. It's all about the pitch and long term plan now.

[Nathan89]

Wouldn't mind acquiring Tyler Zeller. A blend of Splitter and David West on offense.

[fundamental9903]

41 home games plus road games vs Houston, Dallas, Memphis, Miami and Orlando and you're looking at around 45-48 games with no income tax. I wonder if players even think about this before they sign somewhere.

[Ice009]

41 home games plus road games vs Houston, Dallas, Memphis, Miami and Orlando and you're looking at around 45-48 games with no income tax. I wonder if players even think about this before they sign somewhere.

I hate to say it, but they can't be that dumb and just look at the total number, do they?

[TheGreatYacht]

That Nate Jones faggot talking shit about the Spurs again on twitter

Salty Blazers fan :lol

Can't wait to beat him out on Gasol too... :lol

[CGD]

749261624939319296

Didn't know we could offer more money. That's got to count for something

All very interesting, but if he wants more than a 1+1 OKC has that 5th year trump card

[fundamental9903]

I hate to say it, but they can't be that dumb and just look at the total number, do they?

I don't know but some of these signing make me scratch my head. I mean, Lou Deng has to know that a little more than half of his $72 million deal is going to be taxed at the California rate of 13.3% PLUS he's going to be playing for a cellar dweller in the Lakers.

[Ice009]

All very interesting, but if he wants more than a 1+1 OKC has that 5th year trump card

With the amount of money being given out, it's probably in his best interest to sign a 1+1 deal. Unless he only cares about winning, then I guess locking himself in longer term at a lower salary than he can get next year can help whatever team he signs with to add more pieces in the future. He's also got that huge Nike contract, so really, if I was him, I'd put winning consistently for a lot of years above most everything else.

The Spurs can also say they have both LMA and Kawhi locked into cheaper deals, so they should have more flexibility to add more pieces in the future than teams who are giving out huge contracts to mediocre players.

[Kikoluna]

Any update on meeting?

[Ice009]

Any update on meeting?

I'm pretty sure someone will post if they have any updates. lol - I don't know whether or not to leave the room.

[Nathan89]

41 home games plus road games vs Houston, Dallas, Memphis, Miami and Orlando and you're looking at around 45-48 games with no income tax. I wonder if players even think about this before they sign somewhere.

Durant is not going to look at a few million saved in taxes.

[Hoops Czar]

I'm pretty sure someone will post if they have any updates. lol - I don't know whether or not to leave the room.

The updates will be that he was very impressed like all his other meetings.

[cd98]

Durant is not going to look at a few million saved in taxes.

Kind of agree, when you are talking about that much money, two or three million won't dictate where you want to live for the next 4 or 5 years.

[Hoops Czar]

All very interesting, but if he wants more than a 1+1 OKC has that 5th year trump card

He already said he's not about the money yet, people still want to make it about the money. Spurs only leverage play I suppose.

[AFBlue]

It's not that we can offer more money per se, it's just that good ol' Uncle Sam (although I realize it's at the state level) takes less away from him.

Right, not Uncle Sam. More like Boomer Sooner, Holly Wood and Sam Adams. Our Sam (Houston) is just as cool as Uncle Sam.

[Seventyniner]

This makes things interesting. Is there much doubt that the Spurs with Durant are better than OC with Durant? GS with Durant might be best of all, but that costs a good chunk of money.

[TheGreatYacht]

@wojtek: 1m 49s ago Source: Kevin Durant "loves" what the Spurs are bringing to the table. The San Antonio women, "not so much"

[LakerHater]

749276263190192128

[Mr. Body]

In Texas property taxes are high to make up for the lack of income taxes. You pay for it somewhere.

[Ice009]

I think the Spurs have the best core with the cheapest contracts locked in for a few years Vs all the other teams he's looking at. GSW would have to gut their depth to bring him in. I think he really should consider the Spurs if he wants to win and have a decent team built around him. Spurs are lucky they locked in Kawhi and LMA at the salaries they got them for.

[AFBlue]

749276263190192128

Meeting lasted half as long as the Clips. It could mean there wasn't as much interest, or it could mean the Spurs were straight and to the point. Or both. Or neither.

[Uriel]

749276263190192128
2-hour meeting. Same length as Golden State and half as long as Los Angeles.

[Ice009]

749276263190192128

Doesn't seem the meeting went much over an hour in length? I'd also rather hear he's just going to cancel that next meeting and is going to sign with the Spurs.


2-hour meeting. Same length as Golden State and half as long as Los Angeles.

Was it 2 hours? I didn't take note of what the time when David Aldridge said that it started.

[Hoops Czar]

749276263190192128

Breakfast in the Hampton's with Kevin Durant. Meeting didn't even last 2 hours. So much for interest in the Spurs.

[NickiRasgo]

I think the most logical team for Durant, career-wise is us. Not being too biased but if he's looking for longevity, Pop is good in taking care of his players' minutes (healthy/body).

[Hoops Czar]

I think the most logical team for Durant, career-wise is us. Not being too biased but if he's looking for longevity, Pop is good in taking care of his players body.

Of course not.

[dabom]

Didn't even last 2 hours. So much for interest in the Spurs.
Lasted 2 hours though.

[NASpurs]

749246195139096576


749276263190192128

9:19 - 11:19

That's two hours. Math, how does it work

[NickiRasgo]

Of course not.

KD played MPG 35 last season while LMA played MPG 30. Last season, Warriors played like it's a Playoffs 'til end of the season for their meaningless record which somehow I think exposed and exhausts them in the Playoffs.

[loveforthegame]

Spurs don't fool around or enter with bells and whistles. That's probably the most straight forward/no BS meeting Durant will ever have.

[BillMc]

Meeting lasted half as long as the Clips. It could mean there wasn't as much interest, or it could mean the Spurs were straight and to the point. Or both. Or neither.

That pretty much covers it. :toast

Durant was probably thinking: "If LMA gets to 1000 "You knows" I'm ending this thing flat out."

[Hoops Czar]

9:19 - 11:19

That's two hours. Math, how does it work

Didn't realize they brought David Aldridge along to be the official time keeper.

[Mr. Body]

Didn't realize they brought David Aldridge along to be the official time keeper.

He's hiding in the bushes.

[r0drig0lac]

Of course not.

[NASpurs]

Didn't realize they brought David Aldridge along to be the official time keeper.

Then give me your times of how long the meeting was. I'm sure you were there and have your sources. Oh wait, none of us on this board have any way to know besides what people like David Aldridge say.

[LakerHater]

749280403429609473

[siraulo23]

How long was the spurs meeting with aldridge last year?

[SAGirl]

Spurs meeting just ended

@daldridgetnt sources say the meeting was intense, at one point durant was crying as kawhi confronted him about his previous "system player" comment. Everyone grew closer and another life lesson was learned
Creative. Good morning!

[Ice009]

I asked before, but does anyone know why Durant wants to play with Horford? Are they friends? Did they play together when they were younger?

[LakerHater]

749279384134037504

[sasaint]

That pretty much covers it. :toast

Durant was probably thinking: "If LMA gets to 1000 "You knows" I'm ending this thing flat out."

Getting up from his seat when the meeting ended, Durant shook Pop's hand and said,"The Spurs are a truly model franchise. I am honored to have met with you. If you get a starting PG, get in touch."

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

That Nate Jones faggot talking shit about the Spurs again on twitter

Salty Blazers fan :lol

Can't wait to beat him out on Gasol too... :lol

That guy LOVES to shit on the Spurs, so annoying. It's very obvious he's a Blazer fan that got salty about LMA. Since then, he's tried to flip the script to how the Spurs suck so often.

[siraulo23]

Where the tmz photos at

[Kikoluna]

But but but we have Kyle Anderson. he Runs A 13 Minute mile And Can play point forward

[tmtcsc]

How long was the spurs meeting with aldridge last year?

They ended up meeting with him twice if I am not mistaken. Anyways, they needed to get back to Pau today and close him.

[Ice009]

Getting up from his seat when the meeting ended, Durant shook Pop's hand and said,"The Spurs are a truly model franchise. I am honored to have met with you. If you get a starting PG, get in touch."

Why? I would have sold Durant on the point that he can be more of a playmaker. That's an area of his game where he can take it up a notch. He's not going to have a ball dominant PG in his way here.

[NASpurs]

If the Spurs start to trade players, you know some shit is going down like last year.

[tmtcsc]

He already said he's not about the money yet, people still want to make it about the money. Spurs only leverage play I suppose.

Lol, except for a few Spurs players, its always about the $$.

[tmtcsc]

I think the Spurs have the best core with the cheapest contracts locked in for a few years Vs all the other teams he's looking at. GSW would have to gut their depth to bring him in. I think he really should consider the Spurs if he wants to win and have a decent team built around him. Spurs are lucky they locked in Kawhi and LMA at the salaries they got them for.

All they would have to do is trade a very tradeable asset in Bogut and renounce Barnes. Not so bad after all.

[Hoops Czar]

Then give me your times of how long the meeting was. I'm sure you were there and have your sources. Oh wait, none of us on this board have any way to know besides what people like David Aldridge say.

I have no clue but I was going by the times you posted. Those were pretty specific. When I checked DA's twitter account, it said two hours ago since the meeting started yet, the meeting had already been concluded for 20 minutes. Twitter stops giving the minutes after an hour has concluded. Needless to say, it was much shorter than I would have hoped if the goal was to woo one of the three top players in the game to join your team.

[tmtcsc]

Why? I would have sold Durant on the point that he can be more of a playmaker. That's an area of his game where he can take it up a notch.

More of a playmaker? He's almost as bad of a turnover machine as Curry. Don't you remember his passes sailing out of bounds...multiple times against multiple teams?

[Hoops Czar]

Lol, except for a few Spurs players, its always about the $$.

True, but when your dealing with hundreds of millions, a few million doesn't seem like such a big deal to leave on the table.

[Ice009]

More of a playmaker? He's almost as bad of a turnover machine as Curry. Don't you remember his passes sailing out of bounds...multiple times against multiple teams?

There's no reason he can't take it up another level. He's had Westbrook on his team who has the ball a lot. He hasn't had as much practice at it as he could have had. He can be at least as good as Lebron as a playmaker with his height to be able to see over defenders.

[SpursFan86]

749284152902496264

[siraulo23]

I have no clue but I was going by the times you posted. Those were pretty specific. When I checked DA's twitter account, it said two hours ago since the meeting started yet, the meeting had already been concluded for 20 minutes. Twitter stops giving the minutes after an hour has concluded. Needless to say, it was much shorter than I would have hoped if the goal was to woo one of the three top players in the game to join your team.

his meeting with the warriors also only lasted around a couple of hours

:lol okc the favourites followed by steve ballmer :lmao

[AFBlue]

749284152902496264

Who is concerned? I assume Diaw, but that's an odd way to phrase it.

[NASpurs]

749284152902496264

If it's for Durant or Gasol, seems like Bobo's chances of being here next year are slim, unless the Spurs whiff on both of those guys.

[Nathan89]

I asked before, but does anyone know why Durant wants to play with Horford? Are they friends? Did they play together when they were younger?

Just guessing that the addition of Horford just makes the Celtics look more attractive for Durant. They have solid role players so adding Horford and then Himself is quite significant.

[tmtcsc]

Who is concerned? I assume Diaw, but that's an odd way to phrase it.

Nicely done and true. :toast

[Ice009]

I'd assume Diaw should be the only one concerned - I certainly am not. He lost me when he came into camp out of shape twice in a row following the 2014 season. It's his own fault if he gets traded.

[LakerHater]

749282939884613633

[Hoops Czar]

749284152902496264

Who's concerned? :lol

[r0drig0lac]

There's no reason he can't take it up another level. He's had Westbrook on his team who has the ball a lot. He hasn't had as much practice at it as he could have had. He can be at least as good as Lebron as a playmaker with his height to be able to see over defenders.

no way

[Nathan89]

Lol, except for a few Spurs players, its always about the $$.

It's not about money but the offer has to be near max anyways. He's still making the decision based on other things. The money is a prerequisite.

[AFBlue]

his meeting with the warriors also only lasted around a couple of hours

:lol okc the favourites followed by steve ballmer :lmao

OKC is the favorite followed by...God only knows. Just because Broussard reported that he was "blown away" and the meeting lasted four hours does not make the Clips second in line.

[Mugen]

I wouldn't want to lose Boris if it meant bringing in Gasol tbh. I'm fine with trading away Bobo but not just to acquire Pau.

[Ice009]

Just guessing that the addition of Horford just makes the Celtics look more attractive for Durant. They have solid role players so adding Horford and then Himself is quite significant.

I thought I read somewhere that he wanted to play with him and that the Thunder were trying to get him? Maybe they know each other from when they were younger or played against each other when they were younger, or I am just wrong.

[Nathan89]

Why? I would have sold Durant on the point that he can be more of a playmaker. That's an area of his game where he can take it up a notch. He's not going to have a ball dominant PG in his way here.

No. Durant showed his playmaking against Igua at the end of those series closing games.

[Mr. Body]

749282939884613633

How much is Gasol looking for?

[Ice009]

How much is Gasol looking for?

Probably a fuckload of cash after seeing what a lot of mediocre players are getting.

[Kikoluna]

Westbrook does not allow Durant to blossom

[Mr. Body]

Shit, our offseason may be drafting Murray and trading Duncan for Pau Gasol.

[JonNOKC]

749282939884613633

As the $ keeps rising he becomes less & less good option. Beginning to think best move is bring over Euro guys & rookies, & save $ for next year. Outside KD don't know that other guys significantly increase chance to win championship

[Ice009]

Westbrook does not allow Durant to blossom

That's my line of thinking. Durant has a lot of potential that he doesn't end up using because of Westbrook being on the team. He has a more all around game in him with potential to be a much better playmaker than he's currently shown.

[AFBlue]

As the $ keeps rising he becomes less & less good option. Beginning to think best move is bring over Euro guys & rookies, & save $ for next year. Outside KD don't know that other guys significantly increase chance to win championship

That's not talking about his market value, just the available cash to spend for each team. The Spurs can and probably will be outbid, but the question is about overall dollars. Spurs could only offer $5M last go-round. Now they can offer almost three times that.

[BillMc]

As the $ keeps rising he becomes less & less good option. Beginning to think best move is bring over Euro guys & rookies, & save $ for next year. Outside KD don't know that other guys significantly increase chance to win championship

Is Ian still out there?

[Nathan89]

Pau Gasol for more than 1 year isn't a good plan for the Spurs.

[Ice009]

Pau Gasol for more than 1 year isn't a good plan for the Spurs.

How about a 1+1?

[Hoops Czar]

Is Ian still out there?

He should get more than Gasol.

[siraulo23]

Yea with all the contracts already signed, spurs 14 million not gonna get gasol

[RD2191]

Lol. That faggot gonna turn us down again and ST is still blowing him.

[Ron Swanson]

Clippers meeting lasted four hours because Rivers probably held KD hostage like Jordan last year.

[DPG21920]

I don't understand that reference of that tweet? Spurs can open up whatever space they want. I'm assuming he's talking without trade and just renouncing cap holds, but it's oddly phrased.

[Ice009]

Clippers meeting lasted four hours because Rivers probably held KD hostage like Jordan last year.

lol. Maybe he was almost literally blown away as Doc Rivers pulled out a gun and held him at gunpoint. That's why Steve Balmer was crying ;).

[LakerHater]

Rather have Ian Mahinmi than Gasol

[coachmac87]

Length of the meeting doesn't mean anything. Clippers was 4hrs because they're desperate..Spurs will be just fine along with the Warriors..they'd love to have KD obviously but the structure and foundation is solid enough for both franchises that not getting KD would not be the end of the world..

[NickiRasgo]

Willie Reed seems an intriguing option as well.

[sasaint]

Is Ian still out there?

Yes. So is Biyombo. In fact, despite the day 1 frenzy, many guys are out there that I have not heard any news on. Ryan Anderson was rumored to be a hot commodity, for example. I think the Spurs plan to see who is available after the stoopid money is spent or be available as a third team facilitator. Personally, I like how things are shaking out. Everybody I thought we might have a legitimate shot at is still available.

[Spurious]

Length of the meeting doesn't mean anything. Clippers was 4hrs because they're desperate.
Either that or they were waiting for Jordan to make a free throw.

[BillMc]

Yes. So is Biyombo. In fact, despite the day 1 frenzy, many guys are out there that I have not heard any news on. Ryan Anderson was rumored to be a hot commodity, for example. I think the Spurs plan to see who is available after the stoopid money is spent or be available as a third team facilitator. Personally, I like how things are shaking out. Everybody I thought we might have a legitimate shot at is still available.

Hope you are right. We need a big no matter what Tim does. I'd be interested in bring over Mulitinov if he's ready. (Though he's not on SL team).

[RD2191]

Why even meet with other teams if you aren't going to leave OKC. Seems pointless to me.

[Ice009]

Hope you are right. We need a big no matter what Tim does. I'd be interested in bring over Mulitinov if he's ready. (Though he's not on SL team).

I thought he was supposed to be on the Summer League team?

[DPG21920]

Why even meet with other teams if you aren't going to leave OKC. Seems pointless to me.

To see what's out there. Even if it's likely you know you want to stay, I think players have legit interests. It's like saying why not marry the first person you kind of like? Sure, you may like them a lot, but if you don't explore you may not know for sure.

Plus when you are as good as KD and sought after, things are different since you know you get max no matter where you go. Allows to get insight to things outside of your bubble to see if you are missing anything or can learn and bring back.

[NASpurs]

I want Terrance Jones on the team and slide Aldridge to the center position. Tough shit he would have to accept it, the center position isn't what it used to be in the NBA, there's no Shaq's out there anymore. Only thing that sucks are T Jones' injuries.

[BillMc]

I thought he was supposed to be on the Summer League team?

He's not on the roster. Neither is Bertans.

[DPG21920]

Yes. So is Biyombo. In fact, despite the day 1 frenzy, many guys are out there that I have not heard any news on. Ryan Anderson was rumored to be a hot commodity, for example. I think the Spurs plan to see who is available after the stoopid money is spent or be available as a third team facilitator. Personally, I like how things are shaking out. Everybody I thought we might have a legitimate shot at is still available.

Despite a flurry of agreements (A.D.D thought mid-sentence wonder if we see any DeAndre Jordan moments this year) it's really normal for the "others" (Ryan Anderson, Biyombo, Barnes, etc..) to wait for the main FA shoe to drop (KD, Horford, Conley).

It's the norm. Once they decide all the money then flows to the "others".

[RD2191]

To see what's out there. Even if it's likely you know you want to stay, I think players have legit interests. It's like saying why not marry the first person you kind of like? Sure, you may like them a lot, but if you don't explore you may not know for sure.

Plus when you are as good as KD and sought after, things are different since you know you get max no matter where you go. Allows to get insight to things outside of your bubble to see if you are missing anything or can learn and bring back.
Idk. It seems like a waste of time to me. He knows exactly what OKC can offer and what their future looks like. You either want to be there or you don't.

[offset formation]

Why even meet with other teams if you aren't going to leave OKC. Seems pointless to me.

Double secret agent strategy to learn other team's plans.

[DPG21920]

Idk. It seems like a waste of time to me. He knows exactly what OKC can offer and what their future looks like. You either want to be there or you don't.

Well, we just have to disagree. Normal people like you & I don't understand this because we aren't sought after by employers like this.

If you worked at Google, they paid you well and you loved it, but Apple, Amazon, etc..said let us talk to you, of course you would still do that even though you love your job at Google.

[ceperez]

Despite a flurry of agreements (A.D.D thought mid-sentence wonder if we see any DeAndre Jordan moments this year) it's really normal for the "others" (Ryan Anderson, Biyombo, Barnes, etc..) to wait for the main FA shoe to drop (KD, Horford, Conley).

It's the norm. Once they decide all the money then flows to the "others".

Indeed odd that Lakers preempted everyone with the Mosgov signing... what were they thinking?

[SPURt]

At least Horford is deciding tonight meaning KD's speed dating is going to cost OKC a chance there. Also, I'm glad Atlanta signed Howard so quick. We get to see what he would look like in the Spurs system with none of the frustration or regret.

[DPG21920]

Indeed odd that Lakers preempted everyone with the Mosgov signing... what were they thinking?

IMO, while I don't agree with the player, that is a sound strategy. If you know you don't get meetings with the Stars, thus not being subject to waiting on them, you go for the smaller targets you like to really give them the warm & fuzzies.

I agree, LA was likely bidding against themselves but I understand the logic.

[sasaint]

Hope you are right. We need a big no matter what Tim does. I'd be interested in bring over Mulitinov if he's ready. (Though he's not on SL team).

I think we may end up with Gasol, which is okay by me for an interim fix - perhaps for Milutinov to get a little more seasoning. I was hoping for Ian a few weeks back, before day 1 shocked my eyes open. Cole Aldrich would not disappoint me. But I really expect the Spurs to wait until some of the current RFAs are renounced by teams that sign Durant, Horford et al, or those teams have to make some trades. We will possibly be in a position to oblige - for a price.

[RD2191]

Well, we just have to disagree. Normal people like you & I don't understand this because we aren't sought after by employers like this.

If you worked at Google, they paid you well and you loved it, but Apple, Amazon, etc..said let us talk to you, of course you would still do that even though you love your job at Google.

Well I certainly see where you're coming from but to me it is still pointless.

[DPG21920]

Well I certainly see where you're coming from but to me it is still pointless.

OK, imagine you are working a Whataburger. You started on mopping duty. But then you are on fries now. Really the stud WB employee.

You telling me that if Wendy's or hell, even Chipotle comes calling you aren't listening? I mean who doesn't like free chipotle and being wine'd and dined?

[AFBlue]

Lol. That faggot gonna turn us down again and ST is still blowing him.

If he was going to turn us down, he likely would've done so already. He's waiting for the Spurs to hear back on KD, and if the Spurs can offer a competitive salary I'm assuming he ends up here.

[Nathan89]

OK, imagine you are working a Whataburger. You started on mopping duty. But then you are on fries now. Really the stud WB employee.

You telling me that if Wendy's or hell, even Chipotle comes calling you aren't listening? I mean who doesn't like free chipotle and being wine'd and dined?:lol

[Nathan89]

From Google to Whataburger:lol

[NASpurs]

OK, imagine you are working a Whataburger. You started on mopping duty. But then you are on fries now. Really the stud WB employee.

You telling me that if Wendy's or hell, even Chipotle comes calling you aren't listening? I mean who doesn't like free chipotle and being wine'd and dined?

I don't think Rob has to imagine. He's the manager of one.

Hook me up with some chicken strips Rob!

[sasaint]

Despite a flurry of agreements (A.D.D thought mid-sentence wonder if we see any DeAndre Jordan moments this year) it's really normal for the "others" (Ryan Anderson, Biyombo, Barnes, etc..) to wait for the main FA shoe to drop (KD, Horford, Conley).

It's the norm. Once they decide all the money then flows to the "others".

Yeah, I understand the "trickle down" effect, but no news of teams' interest or meetings with some of the next tier players seems a little unexpected to me.

[RD2191]

OK, imagine you are working a Whataburger. You started on mopping duty. But then you are on fries now. Really the stud WB employee.

You telling me that if Wendy's or hell, even Chipotle comes calling you aren't listening? I mean who doesn't like free chipotle and being wine'd and dined?

Do you even know me? I would never leave whataburger you sick son of a bitch. Are you even a Texan?

[RD2191]

I don't think Rob has to imagine. He's the manager of one.

Hook me up with some chicken strips Rob!
Ight son. You got it.

[Mugen]

OK, imagine you are working a Whataburger. You started on mopping duty. But then you are on fries now. Really the stud WB employee.

You telling me that if Wendy's or hell, even Chipotle comes calling you aren't listening? I mean who doesn't like free chipotle and being wine'd and dined?

:lol

[AFBlue]

Why even meet with other teams if you aren't going to leave OKC. Seems pointless to me.

If there was no chance of him leaving then he wouldn't have taken the other meetings. OKC is still in pole position, but there are things that appeal to him from each of the other teams he won't have if he stays in OKC.

OKC - championship core with great team chemistry

Spurs - Pop, championship culture, #1 scoring option opportunity

Clips - Doc, unselfish superstars, LA

MIA and Boston - Uhh...Riley and championship legacy, I guess.

[NASpurs]

Ight son. You got it.

#boldchickenstrips

[NASpurs]

:lol

749299918511087616

[Seventyniner]

:lol

749299918511087616

What.

[DPG21920]

Do you even know me? I would never leave whataburger you sick son of a bitch. Are you even a Texan?

Puro Texan :lol

[CGD]

:lol

749299918511087616

My god

[elemento]

A backup scrub like Jon Leuer got a bigger contract than DG :rollin

[Hoops Czar]

If there was no chance of him leaving then he wouldn't have taken the other meetings. OKC is still in pole position, but there are things that appeal to him from each of the other teams he won't have if he stays in OKC.

OKC - championship core with great team chemistry

Spurs - Pop, championship culture, #1 scoring option opportunity

Clips - Doc, unselfish superstars, LA

MIA and Boston - meh

Durant won't have a chance to be the #1 scoring option in OKC? News to me. Westbrook averaged 10.4 assists last year. What about overrated Pop? He doesn't look so tough without Duncan being at the top of his game. Just ask OKC and the Clippers. Championship culture is a thing of the past when Duncan and Ginobili retire. They're basically starting over.

I wonder what Kawhi thinks about being #2, losing his position at SF or his legacy in San Antonio. If actions speak louder than words and in Leonard's case, they do because he doesn't speak, then we already know what he thinks.

[Leetonidas]

who the fuck is Jon leuer

[K...]

Does no team have player development strategies? I know you have to spend cap, but why not bump up your kids salary rather than bring in three dubious valued mid tier players? Why not just stay under the cap and load up on undrafted players. None of these big money contracts have big upside. I guess mosgov, deng, and other guys don't have downsides but there are more than a few multi millionaire warm body signings.

I just think it'll destroy team chemistry for an under performing mid tier player to be your leading salary. Not every team is a disciplined like the spurs and their ability to tolerate that Parker contract. That Parker contact was also never the biggest team contact either

[raybies]

Kawhitstorm been wanting him. Even he's out of our range.

[SAGirl]

Does no team have player development strategies? I know you have to spend cap, but why not bump up your kids salary rather than bring in three dubious valued mid tier players? Why not just stay under the cap and load up on undrafted players. None of these big money contracts have big upside. I guess mosgov, deng, and other guys don't have downsides but there are more than a few multi millionaire warm body signings.

I just think it'll destroy team chemistry for an under performing mid tier player to be your leading salary. Not every team is a disciplined like the spurs and their ability to tolerate that Parker contract. That Parker contact was also never the biggest team contact either
And although he's overpaid now he had "earned it" one could say with a couple of great seasons when he wasn't paid top dollar. That's different from bringing someone out of the blue.

[Ditty]

Kevin Durant was adequately intrigued by the Spurs meeting from Twitter and from what I know. This is going to be an interesting couple of days...

[Nathan89]

who the fuck is Jon leuer

Just a dude bouncing around the league on min contracts the last few years.

[Robz4000]

Kevin Durant was adequately intrigued by the Spurs meeting from Twitter and from what I know. This is going to be an interesting couple of days...

Sounds like an early dismissal already tbh.

[NASpurs]

749306742132076544

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol Today's GMs

:lol Analytics

[Ice009]

Kevin Durant was adequately intrigued by the Spurs meeting from Twitter and from what I know. This is going to be an interesting couple of days...

Adequately intrigued? Is that your wording? or is it coming from somewhere else?

[spurs10]

Do you even know me? I would never leave whataburger you sick son of a bitch. Are you even a Texan? :lol No self-respecting Texan would ever leave Whataburger for Wendy's or Chipotle!

[tholdren]

To see what's out there. Even if it's likely you know you want to stay, I think players have legit interests. It's like saying why not marry the first person you kind of like? Sure, you may like them a lot, but if you don't explore you may not know for sure.

Plus when you are as good as KD and sought after, things are different since you know you get max no matter where you go. Allows to get insight to things outside of your bubble to see if you are missing anything or can learn and bring back.

Ive been headhunted several times. A couple times it has happened when I wasn't actively searching. I got calls and emails. I didnt even listen. When I'm not pushing my intent out there, I find it tasteless for employers to call out of the blue. I wouldn't want to be associated with that, even for a raise, better benefits, working conditions, etc. You are the company you keep.

The other times I have had employers calling was due to word of mouth that I was looking. This time I did listen. BUT only because I KNEW I wasn't a lifer at my current(at that time) place of employment. It's about loyalty with me.

To hear about these guys parading around and wasting time, it's nonsense, really. If I were KD I would be working the choking out of my game. Hearing about this should make it even more enjoyable the Spurs have the characters that they do. Unfortunately, Pop is buying into this garbage. If you have to hear someone tell you you're great, you're not that great. Maybe that's why KD Lebum Aldridge have a knack for choking.

[offset formation]

Kevin Durant was adequately intrigued by the Spurs meeting from Twitter and from what I know. This is going to be an interesting couple of days...


I think the guy that tweeted that was joking.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/494686813202546689/jeeM5jMw_bigger.jpeg Adrian Wojnarowski Verified account ‏@WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)

Sources: So far, the delay in getting Marvin Williams' deal complete with Charlotte: The Brooklyn Nets' pursuit of the free agent forward.

[Joseph Kony]

lol Nets, throwing all their picks away and shackling themselves to mediocre contract year players on huge contracts. that russian guy is a fucktard

[Nathan89]

Nets are going spend themselves into a team that hovering at around the 8th seed. Maybe not this year but over the next couple. By the time they get their draft picking ability back they'll be getting shit end of the lottery picks and have blow the team up again.

[NASpurs]

749314264415006720

[elemento]

Considering this FA, not a bad deal by the Kings. Vet SG in a short term deal. Way better than overpay to get Dion Waiters like they wanted to do.

[Ice009]

749314264415006720

Another player with a get yourself more than Steph Curry. Why not.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1301125894/tjones100_bigger.jpg Tony Jones ‏@Tjonessltrib (https://twitter.com/Tjonessltrib)

Utah Jazz forward Trevor Booker is close to reaching an agreement to join the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell the Salt Lake Tribune

[NASpurs]

749316820968960001

[Nathan89]

The aging NBA players(like Afflalo) that were supposed be getting dwindling contracts end up with better contracts than they ever had. So fortunate.

[r0drig0lac]

Tony Jones @Tjonessltrib
Utah Jazz forward Trevor Booker is close to reaching an agreement to join the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell the Salt Lake Tribune

Marks trying to clean up the mess and put a reasonable team out there

[NASpurs]

749318109031493632

[apalisoc_9]

749318109031493632

Biyombo-Ibaka-Vuc...

I don't think orlando is planning on resigingin Ibaka for next year.

[Nathan89]

Biyombo and Ibaka is a nice pairing for offense and defense.

[palangi]

who the fuck is Jon leuer

The Internet is full of information. Try the Google tool.

[elemento]

Biyombo-Ibaka-Vuc...

I don't think orlando is planning on resigingin Ibaka for next year.

Or maybe they have a move in place for Vuc.

[szkorhetz]

Or maybe they have a move in place for Vuc.
Spurs?

[Nathan89]

Biyombo-Ibaka-Vuc...

I don't think orlando is planning on resigingin Ibaka for next year.

If that's the case they made a terrible trade.

[GSH]

Ive been headhunted several times. A couple times it has happened when I wasn't actively searching. I got calls and emails. I didnt even listen. When I'm not pushing my intent out there, I find it tasteless for employers to call out of the blue. I wouldn't want to be associated with that, even for a raise, better benefits, working conditions, etc. You are the company you keep.

The other times I have had employers calling was due to word of mouth that I was looking. This time I did listen. BUT only because I KNEW I wasn't a lifer at my current(at that time) place of employment. It's about loyalty with me.

To hear about these guys parading around and wasting time, it's nonsense, really. If I were KD I would be working the choking out of my game. Hearing about this should make it even more enjoyable the Spurs have the characters that they do. Unfortunately, Pop is buying into this garbage. If you have to hear someone tell you you're great, you're not that great. Maybe that's why KD Lebum Aldridge have a knack for choking.


It's not being "head-hunted" when they're looking for a new manager of Radio Shack. But you were right not to listen, because the Great American Cookie Company would have fired your ass if they knew you were looking elsewhere.

You claim that you didn't listen to incoming offers, so that means Durant shouldn't see what's available? What makes people like you think that everyone else should behave just like you? But, hey... it's good to know that you wouldn't be a choker, like Kevin Durant, because you'd be in the gym working that out. I guess being here, typing stupid shit all the time, is your equivalent of being a gym rat.

[Nathan89]

Spurs?
No. We have nothing they want.

[Cloud786]

Any way we can send Diaw and change for Vucevic? Orlando now has Biyombo, Ibaka, & Vucevic. Vucevic has 3 more years left on his contract at 12 mil per year or so.

[Mnky]

749318109031493632

Biyombo is really a 4, and next to ibaka, that will be one fun defensive anchor to watch.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/704288361737908226/dNnfOTNW_bigger.jpg Marc Stein Verified account ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)

Hearing that Orlando's four-year deal with Bismack Biyombo is likely to approach $70 million

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/625856166690689025/0jT_ertK_bigger.jpg Rob H ‏@RCH1I1 (https://twitter.com/RCH1I1)

Boston's recruitment team for KD in Hampton's @CSNNE (https://twitter.com/CSNNE) @WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA) @StoolGreenie (https://twitter.com/StoolGreenie) @stoolpresidente (https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente) @sam_amick (https://twitter.com/sam_amick)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmYg8iSWEAAIQEq.jpg

[LakerHater]

Tom Brady, Kelly Olynyk & Marcus Smart?

[GSH]

Here's a list of next season's FA's to compare. The cap will be going up so much that teams won't have any trouble paying their big-impact players. So unless they just don't like where they are, you aren't going to see any of them getting pried loose. http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2017/

I'm thinking this might also be a good time to make a trade that includes a pick. Rookie contracts are going to be HUGE bargains. Even more so than they have been.

[SAGirl]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/704288361737908226/dNnfOTNW_bigger.jpg Marc Stein Verified account ‏@ESPNSteinLine (https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)

Hearing that Orlando's four-year deal with Bismack Biyombo is likely to approach $70 million
Wow! He deserves it, considering his youth and the elite skills he has defensively, but talk about a guy who just last season was not reupped by his team, and picked up very cheaply by the Raptors. Good for him.:toast

[Nathan89]

Here's a list of next season's FA's to compare. The cap will be going up so much that teams won't have any trouble paying their big-impact players. So unless they just don't like where they are, you aren't going to see any of them getting pried loose. http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2017/

I'm thinking this might also be a good time to make a trade that includes a pick. Rookie contracts are going to be HUGE bargains. Even more so than they have been.

Elite pg or bust next year. That's what we need given the talents of Green, Kawhi, and LMA.

[offset formation]

Spurs could have pursued Ish Smith and gotten him for cheap based on other agreements. Agreed td a 3 year 18M deal earlier.

Would have been a fantastic second option at PG. And his quickness would have been nice.

[LakerHater]

749328996853288960

[cd021]

Biyombo-Ibaka-Vuc...

I don't think orlando is planning on resigingin Ibaka for next year.

I think they want him long term, maybe they are considering moving Vucivic

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs could have pursued Ish Smith and gotten him for cheap based on other agreements. Agreed td a 3 year 18M deal earlier.

Would have been a fantastic second option at PG. And his quickness would have been nice.

Would have been a huge upgrade over Mills but the Spurs are more fitting square pegs into round holes rather than addressing team needs. Smith was an absolute steal at that price.

[Kikoluna]

Orlando is going to be goood. Those 2 guys at the 4 or 5. No one is going is going to the paint. now positions 1-3 who knows....who are they?

[gambit1990]

boston and washington frontrunners for horford... would rather him go to the wizards. doesn't really matter to me though.

[Lostwingman]

Do you even know me? I would never leave whataburger you sick son of a bitch. Are you even a Texan?

:rollin

[HarlemHeat37]

Orlando should be looking to trade Vucevic while he still has value, regardless, he's pretty overrated IMO..

Atlanta moving Millsap to keep Horford would be ridiculous..the latter is significantly better, especially in today's league..

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3611020926/1c288811c3bc4799af324e09268547f9_bigger.jpeg Eric Pincus Verified account ‏@EricPincus (https://twitter.com/EricPincus)

If Hawks can find a team to take Splitter + Hardaway Jr. w/o salary back - enough room to keep Horford

[BillMc]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3611020926/1c288811c3bc4799af324e09268547f9_bigger.jpeg Eric Pincus Verified account ‏@EricPincus (https://twitter.com/EricPincus)

If Hawks can find a team to take Splitter + Hardaway Jr. w/o salary back - enough room to keep Horford



What's the book on Hardaway Jr?

[montgod]

Orlando should be looking to trade Vucevic while he still has value, regardless, he's pretty overrated IMO..

Atlanta moving Millsap to keep Horford would be ridiculous..the latter is significantly better, especially in today's league..

Not sure what is going on in Orlando but I read they are looking to keep Vucevic and trade.... A Gordon. Wth? Can Spurs please get in on their fire sale of youth?

[cd021]

Think I am in camp Mahinmi much improved player, his numbers last season were solid.
16.6 P.E.R
+14 Net Rtg
100 Def Rtg
.163 Win shares per 48 minutes.
9 ppg, 7 rpg, 1 bpg, 1 spg, and 59% from the field.

his FT% needs work, hopefully Chip can help get him up to 70% he is only shooting 58%.

Issue is he likely wants a long term deal, Spurs want to keep cap flex but adding him on a 4 year, 50 million makes some sense. I had the Spurs at around $30 million in cap next season if Diaw is cut a deal with Ian that would trim that to about $18 million if my math is correct.

[Kindergarten Cop]

749332800055156736

[SAGirl]

What's the book on Hardaway Jr?
Good shooter. Would be a possible upgrade over Simmons, but I can't tell you for sure. I have seen much more of J.Simms than I have seen of Hardaway Jr. but one thing is evident Hardaway is a much better and willing shooter, Simmons prefers to get to the basket. Hardaway Jr. was 43 in SG in RPM, Simmons was 71. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/2/sort/RPM/position/2

[NASpurs]

So Brandon Jennings is done in Orlando? How much is a guy like him going to make?

[objective]

Mahinmi's free throw % has fluctuated in a wide range for his career,

Hell, his rookie year in the d-league he shot 77% on 6 attempts a game, with a higher season total than any of his NBA years.

[elemento]

So Brandon Jennings is done in Orlando? How much is a guy like him going to make?


In a market that gave Bayless 9m/year and Augustin almost 8m, I'd say that 10m+ is a safe bet.

[NASpurs]

In a market that gave Bayless 9m/year and Augustin almost 8m, I'd say that 10m+ is a safe bet.

Yeah he'll probably sign with a low tier team that'll give him playing time (Sixers?). He'll probably sign a one year deal in order to prove himself again to the league so he could get paid next year when cap goes up again.

[cd021]

I wouldn't mind having Splitter back but I heard that he could miss training camp following that surgery. If Splitter can play 20-25 minutes similar to his first time around, I take him if TD retires and the Spurs strike out on other bigs.

[cd021]

Good shooter. Would be a possible upgrade over Simmons, but I can't tell you for sure. I have seen much more of J.Simms than I have seen of Hardaway Jr. but one thing is evident Hardaway is a much better and willing shooter, Simmons prefers to get to the basket. Hardaway Jr. was 43 in SG in RPM, Simmons was 71. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/2/sort/RPM/position/2

He is not a very good shooter, a career 35% 3pt shooter and shot 34% last season.

[Tully365]

I'm thinking this might also be a good time to make a trade that includes a pick. Rookie contracts are going to be HUGE bargains. Even more so than they have been.

:tu

[NASpurs]

749342509948690432

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA) Free agent Ryan Anderson plans to sign a four-year, $80M deal with the Houston Rockets, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/).

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/709490101848563716/nIvHgKvb_bigger.jpg David Pick ‏@IAmDPick (https://twitter.com/IAmDPick)

Source: NBA teams making calls on former Bobcats forward Derrick Brown. His Turkish out is $400 thousand.

[gambit1990]

749332800055156736
just the news i wanted to hear! get him spurs.

[ace3g]

Alex Kennedy AlexKennedyNBA
(https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) D-League MVP Jarnell Stokes has interest from Spurs, Mavs and Nuggets, per sources. He averaged 20.6 PPG (66.5% FG) and 9.3 RPG in D-League.

[elemento]

Yeah he'll probably sign with a low tier team that'll give him playing time (Sixers?). He'll probably sign a one year deal in order to prove himself again to the league so he could get paid next year when cap goes up again.

There are some rumors about Jamal Crawford going to the 76ers. They want to add veteran presence. Yeah, I could see BJ signing a short-term deal to prove himself as a starting PG to get a big contract next season. I think he ends up with the Nets.

[loveforthegame]

So Spurs have interest in:

Ian Mahinmi
Jordan Hill
Thomas Robinson
Willie Reed
Jarnell Stokes

Did I miss anyone? Besides the obvious Durant and Gasol?

[NASpurs]

That Ryan Anderson deal makes it seem that Jones is less likely to return.

[ace3g]

Sportando (https://twitter.com/Sportando) @Sportando (https://twitter.com/Sportando)
Jan Vesely told Sport Klub that he is free agent and no longer a member of Fenerbahce (via @mondoportal (https://twitter.com/mondoportal/))

[SAGirl]

He is not a very good shooter, a career 35% 3pt shooter and shot 34% last season.
stand corrected on that. I have not seen much of hardaway like I said, I did watch games where he made 3s. I just said "good shooter" not a very good shooter. but thanks for that. I would not be hot on his tail. He struggled to make the ATL roster if I remember correctly, though I am not sure bc I don't watch that team what was up with that. He is more of a willing shooter than J.Simms at least.

[T Park]

So Spurs have interest in:

Ian Mahinmi
Jordan Hill
Thomas Robinson
Willie Reed
Jarnell Stokes

Did I miss anyone? Besides the obvious Durant and Gasol?

Kris Humphries

[Hoops Czar]

Alex Kennedy (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)Alex (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18999)KennedyNBA
D-League MVP Jarnell Stokes has interest from Spurs, Mavs and Nuggets, per sources. He averaged 20.6 PPG (66.5% FG) and 9.3 RPG in D-League.




Of course they do. :lol

[SAGirl]

I wouldn't mind having Splitter back but I heard that he could miss training camp following that surgery. If Splitter can play 20-25 minutes similar to his first time around, I take him if TD retires and the Spurs strike out on other bigs.
I am very intrigued by him, but if we don't have TD can you imagine taking the risk Tiago doesn't recover to playable shape following the surgery. It's an enormous risk. ATL may have to sweeten that pot with picks or something.

[loveforthegame]

Kris Humphries

Right. Forgot. Thanks.

Interesting mix to say the least. And there's likely others that haven't been reported yet too.

[AFBlue]

Kris Humphries

The Greek dude and Lorbek

[palangi]

Biyombo-Ibaka-Vuc...

I don't think orlando is planning on resigingin Ibaka for next year.
That's a lot of bigs.

Vucevic, Ibaka, dedmon, Biyombo, Sabonis, Zimmerman

[Hoops Czar]

That's a lot of bigs.

Vucevic, Ibaka, dedmon, Biyombo, Sabonis, Zimmerman

Isn't Sabonis with OKC?

[BillMc]

Good shooter. Would be a possible upgrade over Simmons, but I can't tell you for sure. I have seen much more of J.Simms than I have seen of Hardaway Jr. but one thing is evident Hardaway is a much better and willing shooter, Simmons prefers to get to the basket. Hardaway Jr. was 43 in SG in RPM, Simmons was 71. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/2/sort/RPM/position/2

Many thanks. :toast

[Ron Swanson]

Isn't Sabonis with OKC?

Yes.

[palangi]

Isn't Sabonis with OKC?
You're right he got traded.

[HarlemHeat37]

I wonder what Orlando is willing to match for Dedmon, now that their roster is full of bigs..

[siraulo23]

Where the reports at about the spurs meeting

was durant impressed? Intrigued? Blown away? :lol

who was at the meeting?

[HarlemHeat37]

:lmao these teams spending so much money on White American basketball players in 2016..Jesus, apparently a bunch of GMs are stuck in the 80s..

[Mugen]

749355739853062148

Much better value than Ryan Anderson at 20mil per season :lol

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/494686813202546689/jeeM5jMw_bigger.jpeg Adrian Wojnarowski Verified account ‏@WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)

Marvin Williams has agreed to a four-year, $54.5M deal to return to the Charlotte Hornets, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical).

[HarlemHeat37]

Pretty nice deal for Williams, despite his horrendous playoff performance..

[RayTdropout]

Gasol please

[Ron Swanson]

Where the reports at about the spurs meeting

was durant impressed? Intrigued? Blown away? :lol

who was at the meeting?

:pop: Kevin hasn't got over himself so I walked out. I'd rather give that money to Bonner.

[DenialTwist]

This is probably why the Kevin Durant meeting with the Spurs only lasted 1 hour and a half.

https://twitter.com/JonesOnTheNBA/status/749264801612701696

He took one look at the Spurs aging backcourt.

[Hoops Czar]

:lmao these teams spending so much money on White American basketball players in 2016..Jesus, apparently a bunch of GMs are stuck in the 80s..

"White" Gasol 'bout to get paid.