Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[ace3g]

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Anthony Tolliver to the Kings, two years, $16 million, I'm told. $2 million guaranteed in the 2nd season.

[palangi]

:lmao these teams spending so much money on White American basketball players in 2016..Jesus, apparently a bunch of GMs are stuck in the 80s..
FUCK YOU BIGOT!!!

[ace3g]

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Also on Kings front, a key update on Arron Afflalo deal: only $1.5 million is guaranteed in the 2nd year of his two-year, $25 mil deal.

[Kindergarten Cop]

This is probably why the Kevin Durant meeting with the Spurs only lasted 1 hour and a half.

https://twitter.com/JonesOnTheNBA/status/749264801612701696

He took one look at the Spurs aging backcourt.

So now a meeting that apparently went 2 hours, changed to "just under 2 hours", now to "1 hour and a half"? How long before "I can't believe the Spurs meeting only lasted an hour!" or "Durant sat down and left 5 minutes after visiting with Pop."?

[objective]

I can't believe that deal for Tolliver, even with the partial guarantee on the second year.

He just doubled his lifetime earnings with the guaranteed money, and probably won't even play that much.

[slick'81]

So now a meeting that apparently went 2 hours, changed to "just under 2 hours", now to "1 hour and a half"? How long before "I can't believe the Spurs meeting only lasted an hour!" or "Durant sat down and left 5 minutes after visiting with Pop."?

Hes not comng here

[HarlemHeat37]

^^:lmao wow, somebody made a Twitter account using my ST handle? Smh..

[RayTdropout]

Time to go all in for gasol Durant was never coming.

[K...]

Why are teams blowing their $$$ before horford and Durant sign,? Both those guys are likely to result in better players in better contacts to be traded for cap space I know some teams have double max space and I haven't checked which tab dicked up worse, but some names of o possible trade players include Millsap splitter, kamter

Those players are clearly better than most of the contacts bring inked.

[Ron Swanson]

The teams blowing their money early have no shot at getting either of them.

[Mal]

The teams blowing their money early have no shot at getting either of them.

But they have a shot at whatever teams which are going after both of them will throw for free to get cap space

[SD126]

The teams blowing their money early have no shot at getting either of them.

Didn't have a shot to begin with tbh

[tholdren]

It's not being "head-hunted" when they're looking for a new manager of Radio Shack. But you were right not to listen, because the Great American Cookie Company would have fired your ass if they knew you were looking elsewhere.

You claim that you didn't listen to incoming offers, so that means Durant shouldn't see what's available? What makes people like you think that everyone else should behave just like you? But, hey... it's good to know that you wouldn't be a choker, like Kevin Durant, because you'd be in the gym working that out. I guess being here, typing stupid shit all the time, is your equivalent of being a gym rat.
I just told you why. people who need to be wooed aren't worth anything because they are soft. sorry you can't accept it

[tholdren]

:lmao these teams spending so much money on White American basketball players in 2016..Jesus, apparently a bunch of GMs are stuck in the 80s..

canada is a shithole

[K...]

But they have a shot at whatever teams which are going after both of them will throw for free to get cap space

Yeah, that's my point. Earlier I also said I'd rather just give my players more $$$ rather than over bid a mid tier player.

Places like Orlando, Atlanta, who needed to stir the pot and were close to a competitive team..

But do you think Charlotte, the pelicans, Houston, Lakers got better?

It's not like you can't create role players with some development, and many of these singings aren't role players in the classic sense of skilled specialists but rather just second tier talents without any elite skills .


The big contacts don't bother me. The impatience in these contracts are.

[Keepin' it real]

Where are all the tweets saying "Durant blown away by Spurs in meeting! Now 90% sure to sign with Spurs."??

[K...]

Where are all the tweets saying "Durant blown away by Spurs in meeting! Now 90% sure to sign with Spurs."??

Sign up with Twitter dot com, you can be the t spence we have been waiting for, see if f spense is available

[AFMadison]

Where are all the tweets saying "Durant blown away by Spurs in meeting! Now 90% sure to sign with Spurs."??

[NASpurs]

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[AFBlue]

Where are all the tweets saying "Durant blown away by Spurs in meeting! Now 90% sure to sign with Spurs."??

Wouldn't be surprised to hear "(insert team name here) emerges as front runner for Durant if he leaves. Now 50/50 if he stays in OKC or joins (insert star players) in (insert city)" after the meetings are done tomorrow...maybe even tonight.

Gotta build the intrigue and suspense.

[dabom]

Seriously any new developments on KD?

[Leetonidas]

:sleep

[timtonymanu]

Seriously any new developments on KD?

doesn't he still have one more meeting tomorrow? I bet we don't find anything out until the 4th like Aldridge did last season.

[Budkin]

We won't hear about KD for several days.

[SD126]

doesn't he still have one more meeting tomorrow? I bet we don't find anything out until the 4th like Aldridge did last season.

Heat meeting tomorrow

[Kikoluna]

This kd thing is getting annoying. Make up your mind already.

[Mr. Body]

Really doesn't sound like the Spurs are in it at all.

[timtonymanu]

Really doesn't sound like the Spurs are in it at all.

Yep. Sounds like he's staying in OKC, followed by going to Warriors

[SD126]

Kings/Pacers working on a Rudy Gay/Monta Ellis trade

[LakerHater]

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[NASpurs]

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[Mugen]

Millsap trade coming soon. Hopefully not to a Western contender tbh.

[NASpurs]

Woj fail

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[Mugen]

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WTF

[NASpurs]

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[TheGoldStandard]

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WTF


Boston probably didn't want to pay that much. lol..

[coachmac87]

Really doesn't sound like the Spurs are in it at all.

Why do you say that?

[r0drig0lac]

Boston will stay with Durant

[Robz4000]

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Spurs reacquiring the Golden God!!!

[Seventyniner]

Boston probably didn't want to pay that much. lol..

Sure, but I doubt they could have gotten away with less. Next summer the deals will look even more crazy.

[Robz4000]

Welp, nevermind

[BatManu20]

Celtics getting better, but not good enough to contend with the Cavs in the next 2-3 years.

[Mugen]

Celtics getting better, but not good enough to contend with the Cavs in the next 2-3 years.

Miraculously sign KD then trade the Nets Pick + young players to retarded ass Vlade for Boogie.

[TheGoldStandard]

Celtics getting better, but not good enough to contend with the Cavs in the next 2-3 years.

Horford liked the idea of losing in green

[Kikoluna]

I don't get the al horford excitement. Every time I see him play I think he's OK but nothing special. Your typical 15 points per game.

[LakerHater]

Horford liked the idea of losing in green

Money?

[Mr. Body]

Celts seemed prime for a major offseason, with tons of draft picks, cap room and flexibility. It's disappointing what they've ended up with.

[Mugen]

Horford liked the idea of losing in green

For a 113 mil, I'd play for the Pyongyang Pirates tbh.

[Hoops Czar]

Seriously any new developments on KD?

The development is he's not coming here.

[r0drig0lac]

Horford liked the idea of losing in green
who knows, Durant would like to play with Horford, the agreement with Horford was closed after the meeting with Kevin

[LakerHater]

So do they take Horford to the meetin w KD?

[SD126]

The development is he's not coming here.

Not sure that's really a development. Too bad some in this forum are too delusional to think this from the beginning

[LakerHater]

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[random21]

KD either stays in OKC or Boston...Spurs need to move on...

[NASpurs]

I forgot that OKC wanted Horford. Yeah I'm glad Horford went to Boston then. :lol

[LakerHater]

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[r0drig0lac]

KD either stays in OKC or Boston...Spurs need to move on...

if he is not going for gsw, I'm fine with that

[Mugen]

Celts seemed prime for a major offseason, with tons of draft picks, cap room and flexibility. It's disappointing what they've ended up with.

2 days into Free Agency. Celtics have young players plus a Brooklyn Nets pick in a stacked draft next year that could net them a star player in a trade....

They somehow get Jimmy Butler or Boogie for those assets within the next day or two, then Durant absolutely has to consider their offer tbh....

[Mr. Body]

2 days into Free Agency. Celtics have young players plus a Brooklyn Nets pick in a stacked draft next year that could net them a star player in a trade....

They somehow get Jimmy Butler or Boogie for those assets within the next day or two, then Durant absolutely has to consider their offer tbh....

It's kind of a junky team with parts that are all over the place. It'll take a few years to get it figured out and that's not a place top tier free agents tend to go to.

[Spurs9]

In b4 front office suprsies all of spurstalk with a rondo signing :lol

[Nathan89]

Spurs can target Westbrook next off-season if Durant leaves for Boston.

[Nathan89]

if he is not going for gsw, I'm fine with that

Agreed. GSW is the only team that becomes unbeatable with Durant.

[Nathan89]

Lakerfans would be pissed if Durant started to win some rings with the Celtics.:lol

[TheGoldStandard]

Spurs can target Westbrook next off-season if Durant leaves for Boston.

He'd never come here

[raybies]

I'm just looking forward to the players that they'll have to trade or rebounder as a result of this.

[Hoops Czar]

I wonder what the market for Greivis Vasquez is like. I wouldn't mind him as a back up 2nd/3rd string pg to help take some of the pressure off Manu and the second unit. Not a blockbuster signing but, a play maker nonetheless who can add depth to the bench.

[AFBlue]

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So Durant pitched another free agent to come to OKC even as he was getting pitches from other teams? Interesting.

[AFBlue]

Spurs can target Westbrook next off-season if Durant leaves for Boston.

Westbrook is going back to LA.

[LakerHater]

Durant gonna look wierd in Green!

[Nathan89]

Westbrook is going back to LA.

If he never plans to win then I guess that's a good plan.

[NASpurs]

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[AFBlue]

Durant gonna look wierd in Green!

There's no way Boston is in it for Durant. They now have Horford and...a bunch of overrated, underperforming high first round picks.

[AFBlue]

If he never plans to win then I guess that's a good plan.

Probably thinks he could turn them into a contender all by himself.

[Mugen]

Man, the Celtics turn that Nets pick into another legit player and you have to consider it if you're Durant...

Go to the East where your only competition is LeBron (that Celtics team would be better) so you have a good shot at being in every Finals for the next 3-4 years + you don't have the stigma of coat-tailing a championship team like he'd have in Golden State so his brand would still be protected...

If money really isn't a factor (I still think the 1+1 option to stay in OKC is the key to keeping him with the Thunder) then Boston seems like a really damn good option tbh,

[Nathan89]

If GSW loses Barnes they'll take a huge step backwards. I guess they can match but I would think it looks better just to make the max offer themselves.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA) Free agent guard Austin Rivers has agreed to a deal to return to the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/).

[AFBlue]

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Good. Put pressure on the Warriors to choose between Barnes and the hope of Durant.

[Spurs9]

What team is offering Boban the max, dallas?

[Nathan89]

Probably thinks he could turn them into a contender all by himself.

I doubt it. He'll be in his 30's by the time there young guys are ready.

[Spurs9]

Wonder what allen crabbe will bring

[SpursFan86]

If GSW loses Barnes they'll take a huge step backwards. I guess they can match but I would think it looks better just to make the max offer themselves.

What? You really think Barnes is that important? Maybe I'm just overreacting to his shitty postseason, but I would not want to be the team that throws a max at Barnes.

[AFBlue]

Man, the Celtics turn that Nets pick into another legit player and you have to consider it if you're Durant...

Go to the East where your only competition is LeBron (that Celtics team would be better) so you have a good shot at being in every Finals for the next 3-4 years + you don't have the stigma of coat-tailing a championship team like he'd have in Golden State so his brand would still be protected...

If money really isn't a factor (I still think the 1+1 option to stay in OKC is the key to keeping him with the Thunder) then Boston seems like a really damn good option tbh,

I just don't see how they're competitive with the Cavs in the East, even with Durant and Horford.

[SAGirl]

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Starting to think Atlanta should have traded him if they were not willing to do whatever it takes to keep him. Hindsight I know, but its a blow.

[AFBlue]

I doubt it. He'll be in his 30's by the time there young guys are ready.

Oh I didn't say he actually WOULD turn them into contenders. I said he THINKS he could.

[Nathan89]

Man, the Celtics turn that Nets pick into another legit player and you have to consider it if you're Durant...

Go to the East where your only competition is LeBron (that Celtics team would be better) so you have a good shot at being in every Finals for the next 3-4 years + you don't have the stigma of coat-tailing a championship team like he'd have in Golden State so his brand would still be protected...

If money really isn't a factor (I still think the 1+1 option to stay in OKC is the key to keeping him with the Thunder) then Boston seems like a really damn good option tbh,

Even if they can't beat the Cavs immediately they'll be ready to take over if Lebron declines.

Yeah, he'll dodge all the hate from building his own thing in Boston. Plus he'll be "the man" with the ability to shape his own legacy.

[spursince#99]

This waiting for Durant thing is stupid and lazy. Hope we got a Plan B. No pun ��

[NASpurs]

Man, the Celtics turn that Nets pick into another legit player and you have to consider it if you're Durant...

Go to the East where your only competition is LeBron (that Celtics team would be better) so you have a good shot at being in every Finals for the next 3-4 years + you don't have the stigma of coat-tailing a championship team like he'd have in Golden State so his brand would still be protected...

If money really isn't a factor (I still think the 1+1 option to stay in OKC is the key to keeping him with the Thunder) then Boston seems like a really damn good option tbh,

While fucking the Thunder over and sending that franchise into a tailspin into mediocrity. Damn now you got me rooting for him to go to Boston.

[SD126]

If GSW loses Barnes they'll take a huge step backwards. I guess they can match but I would think it looks better just to make the max offer themselves.

So a dumbass owner in Dallas decided to max out Barnes, but a dumbass head coach in Oakland would maybe want that max matched?? One of those will win te dumbass of the offseason award by far getting Barnes maxed out on their roster.

[Nathan89]

What? You really think Barnes is that important? Maybe I'm just overreacting to his shitty postseason, but I would not want to be the team that throws a max at Barnes.

He's not that good individually but he pretty important to that team. There offense won't work without a really good three point shooter to replace him. Perhaps they can find that skill but it will probably come at a loss of his length and defensive abilities. They'll have to find someone like him to play their best lineup as well.

[Mugen]

I just don't see how they're competitive with the Cavs in the East, even with Durant and Horford.

Re-read my first sentence. The rest of what I wrote is contingent on Boston netting another star player using the Nets pick as a centerpiece in a trade.

[AFBlue]

This waiting for Durant thing is stupid and lazy. Hope we got a Plan B. No pun ��

You been a Spurs fan since '99 and you don't think they have a plan if the longshot pitch to Durant doesn't materialize. You sure about that handle?

[Dro210]

Wonder what allen crabbe will bring

$14-15m per


So Durant pitched another free agent to come to OKC even as he was getting pitches from other teams? Interesting.

It really is.

[Brian Windhorst]

Kings/Pacers working on a Rudy Gay/Monta Ellis trade

TBH I'd be fine with a year of Rudy Gay if the Kings threw in a pick or two. The 76ers have the right to swap first rounders with them in 2017 but it will still probably be a top 10 pick regardless. Granted he's a career loser, but a Gay + 1st rounder for Green trade would solve a lot of our problems that stem from only having two players (Kawhi and LMA) who can create offense for themselves. Honestly I think you could talk those idiots Vivek and Divac into giving you Gay + Skal + a first for Green and Diaw. They're desperate to right the ship and Green's contract is looking like an absolute bargain. That being said I know a lot of people here would be horrified at the prospect of having to watch Rudy Gay play 82+ games of basketball, and it would be a huge waste if we didn't use the room it would clear up next summer for a A+ free agent.

[NikosChelsea7]

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[SD126]

He's not that good individually but he pretty important to that team. There offense won't work without a really good three point shooter to replace him. Perhaps they can find that skill but it will probably come at a loss of his length and defensive abilities. They'll have to find someone like him to play their best lineup as well.

Golden State would be flat stupid to match the offer sheet. Let Cuban's dumbass keep him. The more dumbass Cuban shows himself to be, the better.

[Nathan89]

This waiting for Durant thing is stupid and lazy. Hope we got a Plan B. No pun ��

I don't think it's hold the Spurs back. They just aren't making any moves at the moment.

[Mugen]

While fucking the Thunder over and sending that franchise into a tailspin into mediocrity. Damn now you got me rooting for him to go to Boston.

Yup. As a Spurs fan, I absolutely want Durant out of the conference.

[SD126]

TBH I'd be fine with a year of Rudy Gay if the Kings threw in a pick or two. The 76ers have the right to swap first rounders with them in 2017 but it will still probably be a top 10 pick regardless. Granted he's a career loser, but a Gay + 1st rounder for Green trade would solve a lot of our problems that stem from only having two players (Kawhi and LMA) who can create offense for themselves. Honestly I think you could talk those idiots Vivek and Divac into giving you Gay + Skal + a first for Green and Diaw. They're desperate to right the ship and Green's contract is looking like an absolute bargain. That being said I know a lot of people here would be horrified at the prospect of having to watch Rudy Gay play 82+ games of basketball, and it would be a huge waste if we didn't use the room it would clear up next summer for a A+ free agent.

Not that bad of a suggestion tbh.

[NASpurs]

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But he was"blown away" :lol

[Mr. Body]

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Huh.

I didn't believe the "blown away" leak but this is somewhat surprising. And then news that Durant was trying to pitch Horford to OKC and that's gone. Still think Durant stays, but he's got to wonder if Westbrook is leaving next year.

[SD126]

I don't think it's hold the Spurs back. They just aren't making any moves at the moment.

Which is the smart thing to do.

[raybies]

Ian to the wizards

[ace3g]

Looks like Mahinmi is going to Wizards





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[sasaint]

Starting to think Atlanta should have traded him if they were not willing to do whatever it takes to keep him. Hindsight I know, but its a blow.

They DID trade him - for Dwight and +/- $45MM in cap space.

[ace3g]

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Free agent Ian Mahinmi has agreed to a four year, $64M deal with Washington, league source tells The Vertical.

[Hoops Czar]

But he was"blown away" :lol
If "blown away" can't get it done, I'm pretty sure "adequately impressed" doesn't stands much of a chance.

[dabom]

Huh.

I didn't believe the "blown away" leak but this is somewhat surprising. And then news that Durant was trying to pitch Horford to OKC and that's gone. Still think Durant stays, but he's got to wonder if Westbrook is leaving next year.

He couldn't assure Horford that westbrook was staying... Very telling tbh.

[NASpurs]

Spurs are going to sign a mix of ten D Leaguers and international players to minimum contracts

[AFBlue]

But he was"blown away" :lol

:lol

Wasted four hours of Durant's time and ended up going with Austin Rivers instead. That's some good work.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

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Durant is a beta and has never experienced free agency. He was "blown away" by the Clips. He will probably be "swept off his feet" by the Spurs. Then he will be "completely mindfucked" by the Heat. Its all bullshit.

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs free agent targets dropping like flies.

[NASpurs]

If "blown away" can't get it done, I'm pretty sure "adequately impressed" doesn't stands much of a chance.

No one's holding their breath on him coming here. I think most just want to move on already.

[tmtcsc]

Ian Mahinmi to the Wizards. 4 year deal.

[Mr. Body]

This FA period has gone by in a blur. Last year it seemed teams were waiting for the big chips to fall first.

[elemento]

Ian got a 64m contract OMG :wow

Good for him.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

If "blown away" can't get it done, I'm pretty sure "adequately impressed" doesn't stands much of a chance.

The highest IQ move for Durant is to come to SA, so you know he wont do it. Basketballers are dumb motherfuckers.

[LakerHater]

Free agent Ian Mahinmi has agreed to a four year, $64M deal with Washington

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Ian got a 64m contract OMG :wow

Good for him.

Today's NBA :lol

[timtonymanu]

No one's holding their breath on him coming here. I think most just want to move on already.

Yep. Spurs should just get Pau before he gets snatched up

[Ditty]

:lol No one wants to play long term in Oklahoma

Please Dallas land Barnes so you can even be more terrible than you already are and committed long term to an average player. Why are they waiting so long to sign him to an offer sheet?

[Nathan89]

If these 30yo centers are worth 65mil then Festus has bring in at least that but probably 70+mil.

[Mugen]

Great to see these young niggas force the Dan Gilberts of the world to give them these bloated contracts.

It's like Robin Hood but instead of stealing from the rich to give to the poor, it's stealing from the uber rich to give to the rich...

God bless America tbh.

[DPG21920]

A few notes:

Woj bleeds!! First time I've seen him back peddle. :lol

How does it make sense that ATL is ok paying Horford 130M but they draw the line at 6M total (1.2M a year for 5 years) :lol?!

Interesting that Horford nixed OKC because KD didn't commit long term....interesting.

[SD126]

The highest IQ move for Durant is to come to SA, so you know he wont do it. Basketballers are dumb motherfuckers.

So you're suggesting if KD doesn't come to the Spurs, he's a low BBIQ player?? Uh...ok. As you suggest.

[Ron Swanson]

Ian got a 64m contract OMG :wow

Good for him.

Holy shit

[sasaint]

I don't think it's hold the Spurs back. They just aren't making any moves at the moment.

I am liking it, too. Waiting for the stoopid money to get spent to see what more reasonable deals are to be made. Plus, teams will start renouncing RFAs who will be late arriving UFAs in the market. Perhaps we can even pick up a little gravy by being a third team trade facilitator.

[tmtcsc]

:lol No one wants to play long term in Oklahoma

Please Dallas land Barnes so you can even be more terrible than you already are and committed long term to an average player. Why are they waiting so long to sign him to an offer sheet?

If they sign him now it puts pressure on GSW. They will have only 3 days to match. That would put pressure on Durant to make a decision.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

So you're suggesting if KD doesn't come to the Spurs, he's a low BBIQ player?? Uh...ok. As you suggest.

No Im saying the best decision is for him to come here and its pretty obvious. Its a very easy pick. If he cant see that then he is low IQ.

[raybies]

No wonder the spurs been looking at many low key bigs. The good ones are out of the budget.

[AFBlue]

The fact that these MONSTER deals are being thrown out for bigs and Pau is not among them gives me comfort. Seems pretty clear he's holding out for a deal from a contender.

[SD126]

If they sign him now it puts pressure on GSW. They will have only 3 days to match. That would put pressure on Durant to make a decision.

Golden State would be retarded to match regardless of KD's decision

[Nathan89]

Great to see these young niggas force the Dan Gilberts of the world to give them these bloated contracts.

It's like Robin Hood but instead of stealing from the rich to give to the poor, it's stealing from the uber rich to give to the rich...

God bless America tbh.

The league is just making more money. The owners are also making more money.

[Holden_Caulfield]

i need to be an agent tbh

[raybies]

I am liking it, too. Waiting for the stoopid money to get spent to see what more reasonable deals are to be made. Plus, teams will start renouncing RFAs who will be late arriving UFAs in the market. Perhaps we can even pick up a little gravy by being a third team trade facilitator.

Exactly. Better deals this route.

[tmtcsc]

Golden State would be retarded to match regardless of KD's decision

I agree completely. Harrison Barnes made some sort of deal with the Devil. The dude is even on the Olympic team.

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[Nathan89]

The fact that these MONSTER deals are being thrown out for bigs and Pau is not among them gives me comfort. Seems pretty clear he's holding out for a deal from a contender.

He'll probably get an offer the Spurs don't even come close to matching. I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.

[Hoops Czar]

No one's holding their breath on him coming here. I think most just want to move on already.

Exactly. So the FO needs to move on and sign Pau before the MoFo signs elsewhere. Free agency will be over with before Durant makes his decision.

[Texas_Ranger]

No Im saying the best decision is for him to come here and its pretty obvious. Its a very easy pick. If he cant see that then he is low IQ.

actually going to the Warriors would be even better for him.

[Mr. Body]

The fact that these MONSTER deals are being thrown out for bigs and Pau is not among them gives me comfort. Seems pretty clear he's holding out for a deal from a contender.

The teams contending for him aren't big players otherwise.

[elemento]

A few notes:

Woj bleeds!! First time I've seen him back peddle. :lol

How does it make sense that ATL is ok paying Horford 130M but they draw the line at 6M total (1.2M a year for 5 years) :lol?!


Interesting that Horford nixed OKC because KD didn't commit long term....interesting.

To be fair, OKC lost Harden for a 6m difference (he wanted 60m and OKC was willing to pay 54m at most).

But yeah, it was funny to see Woj trying to fix his 1st tweet when he said that Boston and WAS were basically out. 2 minutes later Horford tweets a bunch a green stuff finally choosing the Celtics. :lol

[AFBlue]

He'll probably get an offer the Spurs don't even come close to matching. I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.

He probably already has. Portland reportedly went after him hard and made him a major priority. No deal.

[Hoops Czar]

actually going to the Warriors would be even better for him.

He's the Warriors plan B so if the Spurs want Gasol, they'd better act quick.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

actually going to the Warriors would be even better for him.

Disagree, He wouldnt be first option there. He would face the highest taxes and cost of living and get absolutely destroyed by the media.

[Mel_13]

If they sign him now it puts pressure on GSW. They will have only 3 days to match. That would put pressure on Durant to make a decision.

Nothing, including offer sheets, can be signed until after the moratorium. KD will make his decision long before that.

[sasaint]

Good. Put pressure on the Warriors to choose between Barnes and the hope of Durant.

I don't see how that pressures the Dubs. Durant will almost certainly decide before the 7th...

[SAGirl]

They DID trade him - for Dwight and +/- $45MM in cap space.
uhhhggggg I forgot about that yuck. Dwight has a reputation for getting coaches fired.
Good luck Bud!

[AFBlue]

But yeah, it was funny to see Woj trying to fix his 1st tweet when he said that Boston and WAS were basically out. 2 minutes later Horford tweets a bunch a green stuff finally choosing the Celtics. :lol

Bigger surprise of free agency...the ridiculous amount of guaranteed money being paid to middling NBA players, or Woj throwing out an inaccurate off-base tweet?

I'm going with the latter.

[Mel_13]

Bigger surprise of free agency...the ridiculous amount of guaranteed money being paid to middling NBA players, or Woj throwing out an inaccurate off-base tweet?

I'm going with the latter.

Definitely, the amount of money being paid out was entirely predictable.

[Nathan89]

uhhhggggg I forgot about that yuck. Dwight has a reputation for getting coaches fired.
Good luck Bud!That's be great news for the Spurs if Bud got fired.

[Mugen]

Go to Boston, KD.

Do it.

[AFBlue]

I don't see how that pressures the Dubs. Durant will almost certainly decide before the 7th...

Forgot the clock doesn't start until the moratorium is over.

[elemento]

Doc giving his scrub son 12m/year :lol

[NASpurs]

Currently, the Spurs have enough cap space to sign someone in the Austin Rivers range :lol

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[Nathan89]

Golden State would be retarded to match regardless of KD's decision

GSW will definitely match if KD doesn't go to GSW.

[TheGoldStandard]

Currently, the Spurs have enough cap space to sign someone in the Austin Rivers range :lol

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About as good as TP though

[Nathan89]

Spurs should've bought an early 2nd round pick. It's worth the gamble.

[sasaint]

uhhhggggg I forgot about that yuck. Dwight has a reputation for getting coaches fired.
Good luck Bud!

I am not a Dwight fan by any means, but I think the Hawks made a bold and intriguing move. Horford was no great rim protector. Plus, Dwight has never played in a "democratic" system like Pop/Bud espouse. This move could surprise some naysayers. Plus, it did save cap space.

[sasaint]

Spurs should've bought an early 2nd round pick. It's worth the gamble.

To target who?

[Vic Petro]

If this means Gasol's market value is a multi-year deal at $15m+, fuck him too tbh.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/494686813202546689/jeeM5jMw_bigger.jpeg Adrian Wojnarowski Verified account ‏@WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)

Free agent Eric Gordon has reached a deal with the Houston Rockets, league source tells @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical).

[Nathan89]

To target who?

Anyone who isn't valued at $15mil.

[Mugen]

Spurs should've bought an early 2nd round pick. It's worth the gamble.

Yup, that's my only gripe with the offseason so far tbh. Spurs absolutely should have tried to acquire a pick in the 30s.

[montgod]

Go to Boston, KD.

Do it.

That would be very interesting... LeBron would finally have some competition in East

[Mugen]

Crofl @ the Rockets trying to become the Pelicans, a team that's been worse than them the last 3 years

[loveforthegame]

Spurs are going to sign a mix of ten D Leaguers and international players to minimum contracts

That doesn't excite you?

[NASpurs]

At this point, it's Cole Aldrich or bust :lol

[AFBlue]

If this means Gasol's market value is a multi-year deal at $15m+, fuck him too tbh.

2yrs, $30M sounds like a bargain tbqh

[SpursFan86]

Rockets added Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon, lost Dwight, and made D'Antoni their coach. They're really doubling down on the whole "all offense, no defense" strategy huh?

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/494686813202546689/jeeM5jMw_bigger.jpeg Adrian Wojnarowski Verified account ‏@WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)

Sources: Eric Gordon's deal with the Rockets: Four years, $53M

[Hoops Czar]

Sign Gasol and Vasquez and call it an offseason.

[Kawhitstorm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/494686813202546689/jeeM5jMw_bigger.jpeg Adrian Wojnarowski Verified account ‏@WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)

Free agent Eric Gordon has reached a deal with the Houston Rockets, league source tells @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical).

That's where I expected to go after the Knicks/Grizz splurged on Lee/Parsons.

[sasaint]

If this means Gasol's market value is a multi-year deal at $15m+, fuck him too tbh.

In order to accommodate that contract, the Blazers (who reportedly pursued him aggressively) would have to renounce the rights to a piece or two that I would be happy to have instead of Pau.

[SpursFan86]

At this point, it's Cole Aldrich or bust :lol

At this point, I'm expecting Aldrich to get a 4 year/$60 million deal :lol

[AFBlue]

Rockets added Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon, lost Dwight, and made D'Antoni their coach. They're really doubling down on the whole "all offense, no defense" strategy huh?

They're led by James Harden tbqh.

[NASpurs]

That doesn't excite you?

We used to joke about the Spurs being able to win even if they were to put out the Austin Spurs on the court. One part of that statement seems to be growing closer to the truth. :lol

[SAGirl]

I am not a Dwight fan by any means, but I think the Hawks made a bold and intriguing move. Horford was no great rim protector. Plus, Dwight has never played in a "democratic" system like Pop/Bud espouse. This move could surprise some naysayers. Plus, it did save cap space.
I hope it does. In general I didn't want ATL to get worse. I can't recall their other moves, I remember Teague being moved, but not who they got for him. Glad they kept Millsap though I wonder if his feelings didn't get trashed in this.

[r0drig0lac]

actually going to the Warriors would be even better for him.

[Mugen]

:lol Daryl Morey

[SAGirl]

Anyone who isn't valued at $15mil.
Pop could you know bring in MIlutinov a first round pick in 2015.

[NASpurs]

At this point, I'm expecting Aldrich to get a 4 year/$60 million deal :lol

Seems like a fucking bargain in today's NBA :lol

[Ron Swanson]

Rockets will average 110 ppg and give up 120 ppg.

[r0drig0lac]

clutchfans should be on fire now

[SAGirl]

Got to be concerned for Boban with all these big men getting paid.

[sasaint]

I hope it does. In general I didn't want ATL to get worse. I can't recall their other moves, I remember Teague being moved, but not who they got for him. Glad they kept Millsap though I wonder if his feelings didn't get trashed in this.

Atlanta got the number 12 pick in the draft that they used on Taurean Prince.

[Vic Petro]

2yrs, $30M sounds like a bargain tbqh

This would be the absolute max I'd go for him. I want no part of paying a 38 year old Gasol who's sulking because he can't find foie gras sin achiote in South Texas.

[SAGirl]

Atlanta got Taurean Prince.
oh SF I remember him.
They are a younger team now. One step forward and two back. It will take time for Prince and Schroder to get it together.

[AFBlue]

This would be the absolute max I'd go for him. I want no part of paying a 38 year old Gasol who's sulking because he can't find foie gras sin achiote in South Texas.

Did you start speaking in tongues mid-post? :lol

[r0drig0lac]

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=275963
lmao

[sasaint]

Seems like a fucking bargain in today's NBA :lol

A little less than that would be okay with me.

[Kawhitstorm]

At this point, it's Cole Aldrich or bust :lol

More like Thomas Robinson or bust.:lol

[sasaint]

More like Thomas Robinson or bust.:lol

Please... No.

[Vic Petro]

Spurs going to wind up with crazy ass Willie Reed

[Nathan89]

Brandon Rush about make 10mil per.

[Nathan89]

More like Thomas Robinson or bust.:lol

I'll take bust.

[Leetonidas]

so is Durant done meeting with teams? when is this faggot gonna make his decision

[Mugen]

so is Durant done meeting with teams? when is this faggot gonna make his decision

Probably tomorrow or the 4th, just like Lamarcus did last year tbh.

[Leetonidas]

definitely glad spurs are bringing over some euros now watching these scrubs getting massively overpaid. if even one or two are solid it will be quite a bargain

[ace3g]

How many former Nets players will be linked to Spurs?

Alex Kennedy AlexKennedyNBA
(https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) Donald Sloan has received interest from the Kings, Timberwolves, Sixers, Mavericks and Spurs among others, per sources.

[loveforthegame]

We used to joke about the Spurs being able to win even if they were to put out the Austin Spurs on the court. One part of that statement seems to be growing closer to the truth. :lol

It's hard waiting to see what the Spurs do.

You have to believe they'll put a competitive team out there but it's looking pretty grim right now.

[AFBlue]

All these guys linked, and I bet the Spurs end up with someone random like Ekpe Udoh.

[loveforthegame]

so is Durant done meeting with teams? when is this faggot gonna make his decision

He meets with Miami tomorrow morning and the Thunder again tomorrow night. Supposedly he'll make his decision on the 4th. Certainly before he leaves on his publicity tour in the 9th.

[AFBlue]

so is Durant done meeting with teams? when is this faggot gonna make his decision

Has Miami tomorrow and then will wrap up with OKC (second meeting).

[Leetonidas]

It's hard waiting to see what the Spurs do.

You have to believe they'll put a competitive team out there but it's looking pretty grim right now.

you're kidding right?

[NASpurs]

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[timtonymanu]

He meets with Miami tomorrow morning and the Thunder again tomorrow night. Supposedly he'll make his decision on the 4th. Certainly before he leaves on his publicity tour in the 9th.

Yeah Aldridge made the decision last year on July 4th. Miami was also the last team he met with, iirc .

[loveforthegame]

you're kidding right?

A little. It's a bit depressing no? Lots of question marks surrounding this team right now. Yeah they have a ton of time to get things done still.

[Mr. Body]

A little. It's a bit depressing no? Lots of question marks surrounding this team right now. Yeah they have a ton of time to get things done still.

As is this is still a 55 win team, pushing to 60. Even without Duncan.

[Kawhitstorm]

How many former Nets players will be linked to Spurs?

Alex Kennedy (https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)Alex (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18999)KennedyNBA
Donald Sloan has received interest from the Kings, Timberwolves, Sixers, Mavericks and Spurs among others, per sources.




Donald Sloan was also linked w/ the Spurs last summer as a CoJo replacement.

[Leetonidas]

A little. It's a bit depressing no? Lots of question marks surrounding this team right now. Yeah they have a ton of time to get things done still.

No I mean you really think our 67 win team won't be competitive next season? :lol unless GS gets Durant no one has really improved in the west and spurs could still land gasol. I don't think GS is going to win 70 again and I dont think curry is going to repeat his aberration season. Spurs may not be favorites but they are certainly contenders. don't sleep on kawhi improving tbh

[coachmac87]

I think Horford going to Boston really mixes things up for the Durant sweepstakes. Durant was pushing for Horford to OKC but Horford wouldn't comit to OKC with Westbrook and KD future uncertain....again if KD was going to sign the plus 1 he already would've IMO. They could've then really moved Kanter and convincing Horford. I've stated I thought KD would sign a 5yr deal and that's a possibility but I think he's gone

[SD126]

GSW will definitely match if KD doesn't go to GSW.

Which is stupidly dumb by them to do so

[SD126]

More like Thomas Robinson or bust.:lol

God no

[sasaint]

I think Horford going to Boston really mixes things up for the Durant sweepstakes. Durant was pushing for Horford to OKC but Horford wouldn't comit to OKC with Westbrook and KD future uncertain....again if KD was going to sign the plus 1 he already would've IMO. They could've then really moved Kanter and convincing Horford. I've stated I thought KD would sign a 5yr deal and that's a possibility but I think he's gone

I don't know what moves the Celts would have to make in order to sign both Horford and Durant, but they might jettison some pieces that would be of interest to the Spurs.

[r0drig0lac]

I don't know what moves the Celts would have to make in order to sign both Horford and Durant, but they might jettison some pieces that would be of interest to the Spurs.

they need not do anything only waive one player (maybe the Swedish wing)

[loveforthegame]

No I mean you really think our 67 win team won't be competitive next season? :lol unless GS gets Durant no one has really improved in the west and spurs could still land gasol. I don't think GS is going to win 70 again and I dont think curry is going to repeat his aberration season. Spurs may not be favorites but they are certainly contenders. don't sleep on kawhi improving tbh

Sorry. I still have the bad taste of the playoffs in my mouth. I really soured on some guys. I know. I need to get over it. :lol

I'm just not confident in Boban, Anderson, and Simmons taking the next step.
Our aging pg isn't getting his speed back nor is he going to be able to guard his own man again.
Diaw is more interested in his espresso machine than losing weight.
Mills lost his shot and gets torched on defense.
Manu can no longer lead the bench unit.

Like I said, I know Spurs will do something. There's no guarantee fresh blood puts us over the top either. I'm not worried about the regular season so much. It's watching some of these same guys crumble in the playoffs again that concerns me.

[sasaint]

they need not do anything only waive one player (maybe the Swedish wing)

On a decent contract I'd take Jerebko.

[coachmac87]

I don't know what moves the Celts would have to make in order to sign both Horford and Durant, but they might jettison some pieces that would be of interest to the Spurs.

They don't need to make any moves.

[timtonymanu]

Sorry. I still have the bad taste of the playoffs in my mouth. I really soured on some guys. I know. I need to get over it. :lol

I'm just not confident in Boban, Anderson, and Simmons taking the next step.
Our aging pg isn't getting his speed back nor is he going to be able to guard his own man again.
Diaw is more interested in his espresso machine than losing weight.
Mills lost his shot and gets torched on defense.
Manu can no longer lead the bench unit.

Like I said, I know Spurs will do something. There's no guarantee fresh blood puts us over the top either. I'm not worried about the regular season so much. It's watching some of these same guys crumble in the playoffs again that concerns me.

People said on here that the Spurs should just wait for next offseason where the free agent list will be much better. I agree, tbh. Unless we get Durant, we are gonna have a short offseason. And Pau is still on the market right now, like Lee said.

[slick'81]

Sorry. I still have the bad taste of the playoffs in my mouth. I really soured on some guys. I know. I need to get over it. :lol

I'm just not confident in Boban, Anderson, and Simmons taking the next step.
Our aging pg isn't getting his speed back nor is he going to be able to guard his own man again.
Diaw is more interested in his espresso machine than losing weight.
Mills lost his shot and gets torched on defense.
Manu can no longer lead the bench unit.

Like I said, I know Spurs will do something. There's no guarantee fresh blood puts us over the top either. I'm not worried about the regular season so much. It's watching some of these same guys crumble in the playoffs again that concerns me.


Yes spurs will still be a top 4-5 team in the league win 50 plus games and should get out the first round yet again but after that....

[Mugen]

Pop could shit out a 55 win team. He's been terrible in the playoffs the last 2 seasons but the Spurs will be just fine in the regular season barring catastrophic injury.

They likely won't win the championship in 2017 but they'll have a chance to make some real noise next offseason.

Or maybe Curry/LeBron/Durant all get injured next year and the Spurs get 6 :lobt2:

[hsxvvd]

Clips apparently pissed off Crawford... not a bad short term option?

[Hoops Czar]

People said on here that the Spurs should just wait for next offseason where the free agent list will be much better. I agree, tbh. Unless we get Durant, we are gonna have a short offseason. And Pau is still on the market right now, like Lee said.

Curry, Westbrook, Griffin and James aren't signing here. Once they're off the board, the free agents aren't so appealing. Regardless, they're gonna get paid next year when the cap rises again so it's not like the Spurs won't get stuck with a bad contract or two.

Nt many game changers in this list.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2017/

[Leetonidas]

Clips apparently pissed off Crawford... not a bad short term option?

dear god no :vomit:

[NASpurs]

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[timtonymanu]

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Pretty clear he's waiting to see if Durant goes to Spurs.

[AFBlue]

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In other words Pau wants to go to a contender, more specifically the Spurs, and is willing to wait on the outcome. This is a real blessing for the Spurs. Pau knows he effed up a couple years ago tbqh.

[cd021]

I am very intrigued by him, but if we don't have TD can you imagine taking the risk Tiago doesn't recover to playable shape following the surgery. It's an enormous risk. ATL may have to sweeten that pot with picks or something.
I wished Pop would have started Baynes during the second half of the 14-15 season and had Splitter play backup center. The move would have allowed for Duncan and Splitter to split minutes keeping both of them from being overused (i.e. 28/20 or 30/18)


Mills, Manu, Beli, Diaw, Splitter

[Nathan89]

Gasol isn't coming to the Spurs. Set your eyes on some other target.

[NASpurs]

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[TheGoldStandard]

The more I see these insane deals the more insane the deals will be next seasons, regardless of whatever cap space will be free next season for the Spurs they'll have to overspend or pay "market value" for some scrubs who might not even be game changers..

Some form of identity needs to be constructed soon in order to get an idea of what the future is going to bring. Is this Kawhi's team? If so then start finding pieces both starting and bench players that compliment his abilities and talent and potential. Or are we going to be a committee team in which case we will need to jettison players that keep us afloat and load up with 3 or 4 superstars and surround them with scrubs..

[cd021]

Clips apparently pissed off Crawford... not a bad short term option?

No thanks, don't like his game at all.

[RayTdropout]

Nathan89 how about kris hump ohh the stories he would have about Kim kardashians ase

[Spur-Addict]

If Durant makes his decision on independence day :stirpot:

[Hoops Czar]

In other words Pau wants to go to a contender, more specifically the Spurs, and is willing to wait on the outcome. This is a real blessing for the Spurs. Pau knows he effed up a couple years ago tbqh.

He's the Warriors plan B so that's not actually a good thing.

[spurs10]

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[TheGoldStandard]

If Pau chooses San Antonio and we continue to have interest then it'll be a 25/2 year deal.

Or Maybe he'll go cheaper for long term deal.. 40/4 team option on the 4th year

[sasaint]

He's the Warriors plan B so that's not actually a good thing.

Correct, according to the GSW fanboys below. So if the Spurs want Gasol, they should give up the Durant delusion.

[coachmac87]

Correct, according to the GSW fanboys below. So if the Spurs want Gasol, they should give up the Durant delusion.

Well maybe it isn't a delusion

[TheGoldStandard]

Man.. imagine if Parkers deal was expiring right now or next season.. imagine what we could get back on a sign and trade.. the value would be great..

[NASpurs]

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[ace3g]

If Durant makes his decision on independence day :stirpot:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250288

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/739558942775201792/zEjZ3yFY_bigger.jpg Isaiah Thomas Verified account ‏@Isaiah_Thomas (https://twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas)

@JCrossover (https://twitter.com/JCrossover) might as well come to Boston my brotha lol. I know we would take you!

[ducks]

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Wow was reported there was

[Spur-Addict]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250288

It has been foretold....

[AFBlue]

Just read a tweet that said Conley is going to make over $370K per game with this contract. PER GAME. I almost threw up.

[Ron Swanson]

Multiple sauces

[spurs10]

Just read a tweet that said Conley is going to make over $370K per game with this contract. PER GAME. I almost threw up. If true, that is the dumbest move I've ever seen. He will never live up to that deal causing resentment from his teammates and fans.

[Brian Windhorst]

Man.. imagine if Parkers deal was expiring right now or next season.. imagine what we could get back on a sign and trade.. the value would be great..

We'd be scrambling to find a starting PG among this horrible class of FA PGs tbh. We probably would've thrown the kitchen sink at Conley.

[Sean Cagney]

If true, that is the dumbest move I've ever seen. He will never live up to that deal causing resentment from his teammates and fans.

Yep, he is not a difference maker and they are still 1st or second round exits with him on the team. I don't blame him for taking it but that team will regret that contract, book it.