Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[Obstructed_View]

I have no clue what's going on with the team this season. Pop hates four things: Rookies, excessive fouls, turnovers, and bigs. This year's roster seems designed to make a vein in his head burst.

[objective]

That last roster spot ... I don't know if the Spurs are willing to carry yet another small in Forbes when the bigs are so limited. With Dedmon more of a 5, and only bulky Anderson at backup 4 ... Kawhi and Bertans as small ball pfs? LJC I have a hard time taking seriously as a possibility.

Things would get very, very rough with an injury to either starter.

[Obstructed_View]

I thought the Spurs were somehow required to sign LJC because of some prior obligation. I really hope that's not the case, because that roster spot is worth gold at this point.

[Mugen]

Anderson is going to play PF IMO..with Diaw leaving and Kyle bulking up, it would make sense..

Gasol/Dedmon
Aldridge/Anderson
Kawhi/Simmons/Bertans
Green/Manu
Parker/Mills

2nd best lineup in the West and arguably the league as I really think the Spurs match up well with Cleveland.

Too bad it's all a moot point without significant injury to the Dubs :lol

[FvckMavs]

Quick question: if TD retires and his contract is stretched, can he still come back to play for the Spurs after ASB?

[intlspurshk]

Willie Reed? Terence Jones?

[gambit1990]

Quick question: if TD retires and his contract is stretched, can he still come back to play for the Spurs after ASB?
was having this discussion the other day. not sure if a concrete answer was ever found.

[timtonymanu]

I have no clue what's going on with the team this season. Pop hates four things: Rookies, excessive fouls, turnovers, and bigs. This year's roster seems designed to make a vein in his head burst.

Makes perfect sense. With the Duncan era officially over, it's time to retool. I actually have liked our offseason, tbh.

[objective]

I thought the Spurs were somehow required to sign LJC because of some prior obligation. I really hope that's not the case, because that roster spot is worth gold at this point.

My mistake, I was counting Duncan's stretch hold on the cap as a player. They should have two empty spots even with LJC

[Spur|n|Austin]

Quick question: if TD retires and his contract is stretched, can he still come back to play for the Spurs after ASB?

I don't believe we have found an answer to that yet..

Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557)?

[loveforthegame]

I have no clue what's going on with the team this season. Pop hates four things: Rookies, excessive fouls, turnovers, and bigs. This year's roster seems designed to make a vein in his head burst.

It will certainly be a year of change, growth, and experiments. At least it's with some youth and an eye for the future and not just right now.

It'll be interesting to see how Pop navigates it all. He'll continue to monitor minutes so he has no choice but to let some guys live and learn.

[Spurs9]

I don't believe we have found an answer to that yet..

Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557)?

And can he technically get a ring if we won?

[ceperez]

Gasol / Dedmon
Aldridge / ??? / LJC (Austin)
Leonard / Anderson / Bertans
Green / Ginobili / Simmons
Parker / Mills / Forbes / Murray (Austin)

Looking for a missing PF for the Vet Min.

[montgod]

Willie Reed? Terence Jones?

I could see Willie Reed, Jarnell Stokes being in the price range of what the Spurs have room for which I belive is just going to be minimum contracts now. Although I would hope Pop could sell coming to a player like Terence Jones or Thomas Robinson for the mininum, I just don't see it.

[Chinook]

I don't believe we have found an answer to that yet..

Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557)?

I have no definitive answer, but I'm pretty sure that mid-season wouldn't be any different than if he signed back up the next day after being stretched.

[spursreport]

2nd best lineup in the West and arguably the league as I really think the Spurs match up well with Cleveland.

Too bad it's all a moot point without significant injury to the Dubs :lol

:lmao scared of the new version of the prime Peyton Manning Colts/Broncos of the NBA.

[BillMc]

Gasol / Dedmon
Aldridge / ??? / LJC (Austin)
Leonard / Anderson / Bertans
Green / Ginobili / Simmons
Parker / Mills / Forbes / Murray (Austin)

Looking for a missing PF for the Vet Min.

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/screen-shot-2014-12-20-at-9-57-17-pm.png

:lol

[Leetonidas]

According to Yahoo, best PFs still available:

Meyers Leonard, restricted
Donatas Motiejunas, restricted
Derrick Williams
Terrence Jones
Luis Scola
Marreese Speights
Brandon Bass
Josh Smith
Jordan Hill
Kris Humphries
J.J. Hickson
Udonis Haslem
David Lee
Thomas Robinson
Jason Thompson

Geez....who here is realistic that may be willing to bite for the minimum? Josh Smith? :lol

lol if we end up Scola after all these years

[Chinook]

According to Yahoo, best PFs still available:

Meyers Leonard, restricted
Donatas Motiejunas, restricted
Derrick Williams
Terrence Jones
Luis Scola
Marreese Speights
Brandon Bass
Josh Smith
Jordan Hill
Kris Humphries
J.J. Hickson
Udonis Haslem
David Lee
Thomas Robinson
Jason Thompson

Geez....who here is realistic that may be willing to bite for the minimum? Josh Smith? :lol

lol if we end up Scola after all these years

Could see Jason Thompson if they do want to use Anderson, Bertans and/or LJC as the backup four. But if they don't, then Terrence Jones is still awfully intriguing, especially next to Dedmon.

[Leetonidas]

I would like either Thompson or Jones but i'm not sure they're minimum guys

[timtonymanu]

According to Yahoo, best PFs still available:

Meyers Leonard, restricted
Donatas Motiejunas, restricted
Derrick Williams
Terrence Jones
Luis Scola
Marreese Speights
Brandon Bass
Josh Smith
Jordan Hill
Kris Humphries
J.J. Hickson
Udonis Haslem
David Lee
Thomas Robinson
Jason Thompson

Geez....who here is realistic that may be willing to bite for the minimum? Josh Smith? :lol

lol if we end up Scola after all these years

T Jones is still available? I wish he could come here.

[Leetonidas]

and as for the list of Cs available the only one who seems realistic as a 3rd string C at the end of the bench for the minimum is Kaman :vomit:

[peacemaker885]

According to Yahoo, best PFs still available:

Meyers Leonard, restricted
Donatas Motiejunas, restricted
Derrick Williams
Terrence Jones
Luis Scola
Marreese Speights
Brandon Bass
Josh Smith
Jordan Hill
Kris Humphries
J.J. Hickson
Udonis Haslem
David Lee
Thomas Robinson
Jason Thompson

Geez....who here is realistic that may be willing to bite for the minimum? Josh Smith? :lol

lol if we end up Scola after all these years

I knew it...Scola thread in the making...

[SpursFan86]

How would we get Terrence Jones? We'll likely have no cap room left after signing Pau/Manu/Bertans, correct? I know his stock has dropped off but I still can't imagine him playing for the minimum.

[Hoops Czar]

According to Yahoo, best PFs still available:

Meyers Leonard, restricted
Donatas Motiejunas, restricted
Derrick Williams
Terrence Jones
Luis Scola
Marreese Speights
Brandon Bass
Josh Smith
Jordan Hill
Kris Humphries
J.J. Hickson
Udonis Haslem
David Lee
Thomas Robinson
Jason Thompson

Geez....who here is realistic that may be willing to bite for the minimum? Josh Smith? :lol

lol if we end up Scola after all these years

Festus Ezeli didn't even make that list. :lmao

[Leetonidas]

Spurs would have to sell him on being able to get minutes behind LMA and showcase his talent for a bigger payday next summer

[Leetonidas]

Ezeli is listed as a C

[NASpurs]

Fuck man, I still want Jones but it would take a miracle to get him.

Aldridge/Jones
Gasol/Dedmon

:wow

[ceperez]

According to Yahoo, best PFs still available:

Meyers Leonard, restricted
Donatas Motiejunas, restricted
Derrick Williams
Terrence Jones
Luis Scola*
Marreese Speights
Brandon Bass
Josh Smith
Jordan Hill
Kris Humphries
J.J. Hickson
Udonis Haslem*
David Lee*
Thomas Robinson*
Jason Thompson

Geez....who here is realistic that may be willing to bite for the minimum? Josh Smith? :lol

lol if we end up Scola after all these years

Marked * those who may accept a vet. min. salary.

I AM NOT GOING TO BE SURPRISED IF SCOLA SIGNS FOR THE MINIMUM

[Hoops Czar]

JJ hickson for the league min. would not be a bad option.

[intlspurshk]

Spurs could trade Mills to open some cap room for Jones, could they?

[Mr. Body]

Spurs could trade Mills to open some cap room for Jones, could they?

Uh, yes, but why?!

[jermaine]

According to Yahoo, best PFs still available:

Meyers Leonard, restricted
Donatas Motiejunas, restricted
Derrick Williams
Terrence Jones
Luis Scola
Marreese Speights
Brandon Bass
Josh Smith
Jordan Hill
Kris Humphries
J.J. Hickson
Udonis Haslem
David Lee
Thomas Robinson
Jason Thompson

Geez....who here is realistic that may be willing to bite for the minimum? Josh Smith? :lol

lol if we end up Scola after all these years

Kris Humphries

[jermaine]

Marked * those who may accept a vet. min. salary.

I AM NOT GOING TO BE SURPRISED IF SCOLA SIGNS FOR THE MINIMUM

Scola an Ginobili plays last yr in the NBA with the Spurs together then both ride off into the sunset. I could see that! Lol

[td4mvp2k]

Scola more likely for the min tbh

[objective]

While I think Scola would be cool, after some thought I don't think I want him after all. He could be a fine 12th man, but ...

I just don't trust Pop to keep him on the bench if the matchups will get him killed on defense. Sad, but true.

[monkeypunk]

For the min, you can do a lot worse than a savvy vet like Scola who would already have chemistry with Manu.

I'd take him as long as Pop has realistic expectations for his usage as objective mentions above...

[ceperez]

While I think Scola would be cool, after some thought I don't think I want him after all. He could be a fine 12th man, but ...

I just don't trust Pop to keep him on the bench if the matchups will get him killed on defense. Sad, but true.

Spurs, are loaded with too many noobs!

Simmons, Dedmon, Murray, Bertans, Jean-Charles, Forbes. You got folks like Manu, Pau, Parker and Aldridge that will sit out games because of old age.

The only players that will be consistently available will be Leonard, Green and Anderson. Anderson was considered a noob last year and he's the only one out of that 3 that can actually pass!!!

[intlspurshk]

Uh, yes, but why?!

Spurs not getting much from Mills nowadays and T Jones is very good backup PF with upside potential.
LJC is waste of rosters spot and Bertans is unproven. Spurs have more need for back up PF. Spurs may be able to replace Mills with Forbes

[SpurPadre]

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Feels like that dude has been saying that for like 15 years, lol.

[From Downtown]

I would take Scola tbh

[NASpurs]

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[beirmeistr]

question to the forum: do free agents that agree to sign with a team get a physical before they sign?

[DPG21920]

question to the forum: do free agents that agree to sign with a team get a physical before they sign?

Yes.

[TD 21]

That last roster spot ... I don't know if the Spurs are willing to carry yet another small in Forbes when the bigs are so limited. With Dedmon more of a 5, and only bulky Anderson at backup 4 ... Kawhi and Bertans as small ball pfs? LJC I have a hard time taking seriously as a possibility.

Things would get very, very rough with an injury to either starter.

I've been saying the same thing.


While I think Scola would be cool, after some thought I don't think I want him after all. He could be a fine 12th man, but ...

I just don't trust Pop to keep him on the bench if the matchups will get him killed on defense. Sad, but true.

I'm thinking it'll be Scola or Bonner, but I'm leaning the former. Bonner would be mostly redundant with Bertans and they need someone who can spot start if Aldridge gets injured. Plus, Scola would make for a better fourth/emergency center because he's a superior rebounder.

Sure, he's old, athletically deficient and was terrible in the playoffs, but the Raptors were asking too much of him. As a fringe rotation player, who'd mostly be around for insurance, he'd be fine. Teams didn't guard him from 3, but he shot 40.4%, with 65 makes and Dedmon is the type that can protect him defensively.

[rastaspur]

Larry sanders? Should patfo kick the tires on him . A headcase but you cant deny his talents. Rim protector and rebounder. Low risk high reward if signed at vet minimum. If he acts up during the season then cut him and move on.

[beirmeistr]

Yes.
thanks

[tonight...you]

Larry sanders? Should patfo kick the tires on him . A headcase but you cant deny his talents. Rim protector and rebounder. Low risk high reward if signed at vet minimum. If he acts up during the season then cut him and move on.
Lol, rastaspur talking about a pothead player.
No worries bro, I enjoy the Green Muse myself. We dance quite often.

[szkorhetz]

If Duncan is coming back, Scola would make hell lot of sense.

[rastaspur]

The pot is not to blame for larry being a head case. Thats on him. Plenty of productive pot heads in our society. Ive practiced law for 15 years. Never affected my ability to perform my job, but i dont roll into court stoned either.

Maybe larry just cant balance the two. I imagine he likes that white lady and thats been his real issue. Cocaine is a helluva drug

[TheGoldStandard]

Sanders problem was that he liked basketball but he didn't like all the other stuff that came with it.. He has an interview floating around the net where he talks about his anxiety issues because of it and walked away from the money and the game because he had other interests and invest and saved his cash so he wasn't hurting. Probably didn't like the travel or the high expectations, didn't like being away from family and didn't like that he couldn't do the rec drugs he wanted.

[Kikoluna]

Spurs, are loaded with too many noobs!

Simmons, Dedmon, Murray, Bertans, Jean-Charles, Forbes. You got folks like Manu, Pau, Parker and Aldridge that will sit out games because of old age.

The only players that will be consistently available will be Leonard, Green and Anderson. Anderson was considered a noob last year and he's the only one out of that 3 that can actually pass!!!

Kyle Anderson is worthless

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Just throwing a name out their for back up PF. Brandon Bass.

[rastaspur]

Sanders problem was that he liked basketball but he didn't like all the other stuff that came with it.. He has an interview floating around the net where he talks about his anxiety issues because of it and walked away from the money and the game because he had other interests and invest and saved his cash so he wasn't hurting. Probably didn't like the travel or the high expectations, didn't like being away from family and didn't like that he couldn't do the rec drugs he wanted.

Dude needs to get over that. Geez. Like that useless fuck houston drafted huh. Geez

[tonight...you]

The pot is not to blame for larry being a head case. Thats on him. Plenty of productive pot heads in our society. Ive practiced law for 15 years. Never affected my ability to perform my job, but i dont roll into court stoned either.

Maybe larry just cant balance the two. I imagine he likes that white lady and thats been his real issue. Cocaine is a helluva drug

You speak the truth. I think you may on to something about that white chick.
She's a great, great dancer, but she always leaves you feeling like shit about it when she's tired.

And yet, all many of us can even think about is dancing with her again.

Good point, my man.

[TheGoldStandard]

Dude needs to get over that. Geez. Like that useless fuck houston drafted huh. Geez

Meh.. it's his choice.. he didn't grow up playing ball.. That interview talks about him picking up basketball when he was like 16 or 17 because he was a tall dude and he was athletic and picked up on the game. Talks about how it was easy for him to walk away from it because he liked other things before ball so he focused on those.. Some dudes just aren't meant to play regardless of their physical gifts.

I'm sure in a few years if the investments dry up or he gets an itch he will play again and collect a paycheck. I swear if half these physical gifted dudes had the desire that guys like bonner had or some of these other scrubs floating around the league they would be mega stars.

[rastaspur]

Meh.. it's his choice.. he didn't grow up playing ball.. That interview talks about him picking up basketball when he was like 16 or 17 because he was a tall dude and he was athletic and picked up on the game. Talks about how it was easy for him to walk away from it because he liked other things before ball so he focused on those.. Some dudes just aren't meant to play regardless of their physical gifts.

I'm sure in a few years if the investments dry up or he gets an itch he will play again and collect a paycheck. I swear if half these physical gifted dudes had the desire that guys like bonner had or some of these other scrubs floating around the league they would be mega stars.

Read an article today that says he wants to play this year. Worth a look if true.

[TheGoldStandard]

Read an article today that says he wants to play this year. Worth a look if true.

It's a cash grab.. he knows the market.. that's why he said it. If it was like 1 mil yeah but he probably wants half of what whiteside is getting at the very least. The sad thing is some stupid team would give it to him.

[rastaspur]

It's a cash grab.. he knows the market.. that's why he said it. If it was like 1 mil yeah but he probably wants half of what whiteside is getting at the very least. The sad thing is some stupid team would give it to him.

That would be a huge risk.

[TheGoldStandard]

That would be a huge risk.

It is for sure but for every smart GM there are those like Cubes who want to make a big splash. My guess would be to get on a team closer to the end of the season or midway through, have some really solid games and then cash in next summer.

[DPG21920]

So as of now, the Spurs have:

Starters - Parker / Danny / Kawhi / LMA / Pau (5)

Bench - Manu / Mills / Simmons / Kyle / Murray / Bertans / Dedmon (7)

That's 3 spots left to fill. If LJC comes over which is likely, that's 2 spots left. Have to imagine SA just goes best player available, but one more big seems like a must if not two (although Forbes may get that last spot).

[rastaspur]

So as of now, the Spurs have:

Starters - Parker / Danny / Kawhi / LMA / Pau (5)

Bench - Manu / Mills / Simmons / Kyle / Murray / Bertans / Dedmon (7)

That's 3 spots left to fill. If LJC comes over which is likely, that's 2 spots left. Have to imagine SA just goes best player available, but one more big seems like a must if not two (although Forbes may get that last spot).

I say try and get willie reed or a servicable euro big and dont cut forbes and call it an offseason

[SpursforSix]

I say try and get willie reed or a servicable euro big and dont cut forbes and call it an offseason

Pretty successful offseason imo. Better than I expected. I think Pau is a good fit. Nice draft pick that has good upside. Some decent talent on the SL team. Forbes could be something. Now Dedmond. I'm pretty stoked about next season.

[r0drig0lac]

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/screen-shot-2014-12-20-at-9-57-17-pm.png

:lol

unfortunately you may be right

[BillMc]

So as of now, the Spurs have:

Starters - Parker / Danny / Kawhi / LMA / Pau (5)

Bench - Manu / Mills / Simmons / Kyle / Murray / Bertans / Dedmon (7)

That's 3 spots left to fill. If LJC comes over which is likely, that's 2 spots left. Have to imagine SA just goes best player available, but one more big seems like a must if not two (although Forbes may get that last spot).

Thanks. Gotta have another big. Pau is old, and LMA not young. Injuries/rest and you'll be starting Dedmon or one of Kyle, LJC or Bertans. Might be okay for spot duty, but for a long stint would be tough I think.

[DPG21920]

Thanks. Gotta have another big. Pau is old, and LMA not young. Injuries/rest and you'll be starting Dedmon or one of Kyle, LJC or Bertans. Might be okay for spot duty, but for a long stint would be tough I think.

I agree, but with who is left I'm not sure you can get anyone you would feel good with anyways. I'm hoping SA gets at least one big, but at this point I do think SA should be looking at getting "assets".

[bigfan]

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/52011/4e8a81df-0469-44c6-884e-110cb73806b9/d8f/filename/robertas-javtokas-profile.jpg

Tanned, rested and (still) ready!!!

[Emperor]

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/52011/4e8a81df-0469-44c6-884e-110cb73806b9/d8f/filename/robertas-javtokas-profile.jpg

Tanned, rested and (still) ready!!!

Is that Javtokas?

[bigfan]

yeppers, still plays at 36

[Emperor]

Nice! Dude was a beast. Too bad he had that accident though.

[BillMc]

I agree, but with who is left I'm not sure you can get anyone you would feel good with anyways. I'm hoping SA gets at least one big, but at this point I do think SA should be looking at getting "assets".

As I mentioned on another thread, with the money Boban just made after a 1 year stint with the Spurs, they might be able to use that example to find a foreign big to come over for a 1 year minimum, knowing that if he does well he could cash in next year with a contract from the Spurs or somewhere else.

Maybe Lorbek will rebound (pun intended) or Bourgois (the Greek league guy, I know I'm spelling it wrong). Or as others have said maybe Scola to go out with Manu. Or some young guy we don't even know about. We'd never even mentioned Boban on this site when the Spurs seemed to sign him out of nowhere last year. RC might have more magic up his sleeve.

[bigfan]

Even after the accident he was a great player, I always thought he was the one that got away, worse than losing Scola.

[MaNu4Tres]

While I think Scola would be cool, after some thought I don't think I want him after all. He could be a fine 12th man, but ...

I just don't trust Pop to keep him on the bench if the matchups will get him killed on defense. Sad, but true.

So true. I agree. Keep Scola away.

[DPG21920]

As I mentioned on another thread, with the money Boban just made after a 1 year stint with the Spurs, they might be able to use that example to find a foreign big to come over for a 1 year minimum, knowing that if he does will he could cash in next year with a contract from the Spurs or somewhere else.

Maybe Lorbek will rebound (pun intended) or Bourgois (the Greek league guy, I know I'm spelling it wrong). Or as others have said maybe Scola to go out with Manu. Or some young guy we don't even know about. We'd never even mentioned Boban on this site when the Spurs seemed to sign him out of nowhere last year. RC might have more magic up his sleeve.

Great point. Nows the time to make the jump to the NBA and money next year is the key.

[ace3g]

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[LakerHater]

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[Jdspur20]

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Now that's funny

[gambit1990]

glad boban's where he's at. stan van will treat him great :tu

[r0drig0lac]

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Drum seems to be a great guy

[pad300]

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Tired of it, that's to bad short man... So many practice scrimmages where we will be on opposing teams. You might just want to accept it.

[spurtech09]

Going to miss the guy.....Great guy......Congrats Boban....

[ace3g]

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Free agent center Festus Ezeli has reached agreement on a two-year deal with Portland, league source tells @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical).

[ace3g]

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The Blazers signed free agent Festus Ezeli to a two-year, $16 million contract, a source told @TheUndefeated (https://twitter.com/TheUndefeated). Woj first to report.

[Mugen]

:lol Lakers playing twice as much and twice the years for Timofey F'n Mozgov.

[Hoops Czar]

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The Blazers signed free agent Festus Ezeli to a two-year, $16 million contract, a source told @TheUndefeated (https://twitter.com/TheUndefeated). Woj first to report.

Actually 7.4M, 400k more than Boban.

[Mr. Body]

751198829417029636

Drummond has funny tweets. I might start following the Pistons.

[timtonymanu]

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The Blazers signed free agent Festus Ezeli to a two-year, $16 million contract, a source told @TheUndefeated (https://twitter.com/TheUndefeated). Woj first to report.

Nice value for Portland.

[spursistan]

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The Blazers signed free agent Festus Ezeli to a two-year, $16 million contract, a source told @TheUndefeated (https://twitter.com/TheUndefeated). Woj first to report.

:lmao Lakers...

What a steal for the Blazers if you look dudes like Mozgov/Biyombo getting $16-17 million per year...

[djohn14]

Thats a fantastic deal in this market. Im really shocked it's just a two year deal though.

[GSH]

Maybe Lorbek will rebound (pun intended) or Bourgois (the Greek league guy, I know I'm spelling it wrong). Or as others have said maybe Scola to go out with Manu. Or some young guy we don't even know about. We'd never even mentioned Boban on this site when the Spurs seemed to sign him out of nowhere last year. RC might have more magic up his sleeve.


I had mentioned Boban. I'd been calling for the Spurs to sign him, and even said that he would be available for cheap. That would be impressive, if not for the fact that I almost never guess what the hell the Spurs FO is going to do. And since they never listen to me, all the great ideas I have never get validated. :lol

This year I really want them to bring Bourousis over. I've been watching a lot of video of him recently, and I'm even more convinced than I was before. I think this might be his last chance, and from what he's said I think he really wants to come. Enough that he might be willing to come for less than you might expect.

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs had enough to get Ezeli?!?!?! You gotta be kidding me.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ezeli's stock went downhill in the playoffs, he was horrible, tbh..could be a nice buy low opportunity for Portland..

[BillMc]

I had mentioned Boban. I'd been calling for the Spurs to sign him, and even said that he would be available for cheap. That would be impressive, if not for the fact that I almost never guess what the hell the Spurs FO is going to do. And since they never listen to me, all the great ideas I have never get validated. :lol

This year I really want them to bring Bourousis over. I've been watching a lot of video of him recently, and I'm even more convinced than I was before. I think this might be his last chance, and from what he's said I think he really wants to come. Enough that he might be willing to come for less than you might expect.

Cheers then for the Boban alert. :toast It was a good call. I've never any idea what the FO is going to do, and usually get it wrong.

Can they possibly get Bourousis at the minimum? (Which is all we have left I think). Give him a short contract and tell him about the riches Boban is making (and Baynes and all our ex bigs except Jeff Ayres). Maybe he bets on himself and comes?

[GSH]

Ezeli's stock went downhill in the playoffs, he was horrible, tbh..could be a nice buy low opportunity for Portland..


He wasn't good in the post season. And thinking about it, I'm not even sure what kind of player he would be outside of that wide-open GS system. He benefitted a lot from the double teams on other players, and getting easy-ish offensive boards because defenders over-committed to other guys.

[GSH]

Cheers then for the Boban alert. :toast It was a good call. I've never any idea what the FO is going to do, and usually get it wrong.

Can they possibly get Bourousis at the minimum? (Which is all we have left I think). Give him a short contract and tell him about the riches Boban is making (and Baynes and all our ex bigs except Jeff Ayres). Maybe he bets on himself and comes?


I finally just gave up on trying to keep up with how much the Spurs have left to spend. I bet they could get him for about $1.1M. But then again, I didn't think Boban would get any more than about $15M, so who the hell knows?

I had seen Boban play, and I was a fan. Plus the Spurs needed a big man, and he had indicated he was open to giving the NBA a shot - to the point of sounding almost like he was begging for a chance. But when the Spurs announced, I was as shocked as anyone else. If you throw enough darts, you're bound to hit a bullseye once in a while.

[Leetonidas]

ST was right about Dedmon, perhaps Bourousis is next

[BillMc]

I finally just gave up on trying to keep up with how much the Spurs have left to spend. I bet they could get him for about $1.1M. But then again, I didn't think Boban would get any more than about $15M, so who the hell knows?

I had seen Boban play, and I was a fan. Plus the Spurs needed a big man, and he had indicated he was open to giving the NBA a shot - to the point of sounding almost like he was begging for a chance. But when the Spurs announced, I was as shocked as anyone else. If you throw enough darts, you're bound to hit a bullseye once in a while.

True. Just keep throwing those darts bro, we need more to land!:toast

[SpurPadre]

those calling for Bourisis need to understand PATFO have explicitly stated they want to get younger and more athletic. Getting just Denmon and drafting Murray alone shouldn't cover that plan, tbh. I think they have something else up their sleeve that will address that.

[ace3g]

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Sources: Portland RFA Allen Crabbe has signed a four-year, $75M offer sheet with the Brooklyn Nets. Bonuses could reach $83M.

[TheGoldStandard]

those calling for Bourisis need to understand PATFO have explicitly stated they want to get younger and more athletic. Getting just Denmon and drafting Murray alone shouldn't cover that plan, tbh. I think they have something else up their sleeve that will address that.


Just leave that roster spot open and wait for teams to start shedding some players at the end of the season and pick them up once they clear waivers.

[SpurPadre]

Just leave that roster spot open and wait for teams to start shedding some players at the end of the season and pick them up once they clear waivers.

Who knows if they're trying to make a big trade to counter the Dubs' attempts to ruin NBA competition?

[Spurs9]

Man Ben Simmons looks really impressive.

[TheGoldStandard]

Who knows if they're trying to make a big trade to counter the Dubs' attempts to ruin NBA competition?

Really no pieces they can trade.. Moving Danny wouldn't bring anyone over that would move the needle especially in salary trade off since everyone was overpaid.. They're not going to move TP..

[cjw]

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Sources: Portland RFA Allen Crabbe has signed a four-year, $75M offer sheet with the Brooklyn Nets. Bonuses could reach $83M.

He was nice last year, but I don't touch that as Portland. Especially after burning that money on Evan Turner.

[GSH]

those calling for Bourisis need to understand PATFO have explicitly stated they want to get younger and more athletic. Getting just Denmon and drafting Murray alone shouldn't cover that plan, tbh. I think they have something else up their sleeve that will address that.


If they wanted to get younger, they should have just let Manu go somewhere else, and told Tim that he gets his money, but he's being waived. That would have moved the age-o-meter a whole bunch.

Look, I know you're right about the apparent youth movement. But I don't see the Spurs ruling out the best available choice (whoever that is) because he's not in his 20's. Big men, in particular, take time to develop. Bourousis has been around. He has good timing on the PnR. There is an art to getting into the right position, at the right time, to set a good, effective pick. Bourousis is better at it than anyone I can think of since Fabbs. (No, I don't want to get into a long argument about who sets the best picks. My point is that he's another European big man who "does the little things".) He's not just tall - he's solid and strong, and not afraid of some contact.

I read a lot of conflicting opinions about whether Bertans will crack the rotation. But he and Bourousis have played together, and have some chemistry. Imagine how nice it would be to have two guys on the second team who are already familiar with each others' games.

I could be all wet about how much he'd play for, at least for one year. But looking at what else is available, I can't believe that the Spurs would turn down an opportunity, if he wanted to make the money work.

[GSH]

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Sources: Portland RFA Allen Crabbe has signed a four-year, $75M offer sheet with the Brooklyn Nets. Bonuses could reach $83M.


Holy shit, I didn't see that either. I know the Blazers wanted to keep him, and I got the impression that they thought they would. For those wondering about Harkless, I saw that he's buds with Lillard, and Lillard specifically told management that he wanted them to do what they had to, in order to keep him. A whole lot of the players we thought might be overlooked are getting paid, just like everyone else. Especially the ones we were watching, it seems like.

[SpursBig3s]

in for later

[Obstructed_View]

Gasol / Dedmon
Aldridge / ??? / LJC (Austin)
Leonard / Anderson / Bertans
Green / Ginobili / Simmons
Parker / Mills / Forbes / Murray (Austin)

Looking for a missing PF for the Vet Min.

Move Murray up at least one spot, maybe two. He looks like the real deal. I feel a lot better about not being able to get Hanlan on the team now that I've seen Murray.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2aqSjSWyI

[cutewizard]

If they wanted to get younger, they should have just let Manu go somewhere else, and told Tim that he gets his money, but he's being waived. That would have moved the age-o-meter a whole bunch.

Look, I know you're right about the apparent youth movement. But I don't see the Spurs ruling out the best available choice (whoever that is) because he's not in his 20's. Big men, in particular, take time to develop. Bourousis has been around. He has good timing on the PnR. There is an art to getting into the right position, at the right time, to set a good, effective pick. Bourousis is better at it than anyone I can think of since Fabbs. (No, I don't want to get into a long argument about who sets the best picks. My point is that he's another European big man who "does the little things".) He's not just tall - he's solid and strong, and not afraid of some contact.

I read a lot of conflicting opinions about whether Bertans will crack the rotation. But he and Bourousis have played together, and have some chemistry. Imagine how nice it would be to have two guys on the second team who are already familiar with each others' games.

I could be all wet about how much he'd play for, at least for one year. But looking at what else is available, I can't believe that the Spurs would turn down an opportunity, if he wanted to make the money work.


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me too....

i want the greek center so much......!

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2jR0WXLA48

[cutewizard]

Bourosis, please sign with the Spurs!!!!!!!

[ceperez]

Move Murray up at least one spot, maybe two. He looks like the real deal. I feel a lot better about not being able to get Hanlan on the team now that I've seen Murray.

Murray has talent, but he has too many issues that make his a problem with the spurs system.

Murray has two major gaps (1) learning how to defend and (2) learning how to shoot. So he news to ferment first in Austin before even considering him sniffing the floor. If D-league is to demoralizing a demotion for his ego, then I say that he gets traded with the first opportunity.

[Jdspur20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2jR0WXLA48

So what are the pros and cons for bourousis?

[cutewizard]

If we get the Greek center, we are set.....

im not yet happy with our roster, hope the Spurs FO makes me happy

[cutewizard]

He obtains good position, got a good basketball IQ, lots of experience, not afraid to bang it inside.....

[jermaine]

Bourosis, please sign with the Spurs!!!!!!!
I 2nd this notion!

[palangi]

Murray has talent, but he has too many issues that make his a problem with the spurs system.

Murray has two major gaps (1) learning how to defend and (2) learning how to shoot. So he news to ferment first in Austin before even considering him sniffing the floor. If D-league is to demoralizing a demotion for his ego, then I say that he gets traded with the first opportunity.
:bangSpurs talk really has no patience or understanding.

[cutewizard]

Murray is a rookie, for gods sake......

your elementary children are rookies in the game of life....

think of it that way

[cutewizard]

If Murray has discipline, he will emerge and evolve

so, lets give our rookies the benefit of the doubt

---------------------------------------------------


but that greek center will not be a rookie for me, i have the highest expectations for him

[Leetonidas]

People forget Pop benched an old Terry Porter for rookie 19 year old TP midway thru the season. you never know what Murray will turn into

[cd98]

People forget Pop benched an old Terry Porter for rookie 19 year old TP midway thru the season. you never know what Murray will turn into

Yes, but TP now is much better than Terry Porter of then. It would take injuries.

[cutewizard]

If Mills enters the season with the best shape of his life, we would at least be competitive in the backcourt.....

[Kikoluna]

The back up for Leonard will be our demise, am issue often overlooked around here

[palangi]

The back up for Leonard will be our demise, am issue often overlooked around here
Um Bertans is coming over. A good compliment with shooting ability.

[Obstructed_View]

Murray has talent, but he has too many issues that make his a problem with the spurs system.

Murray has two major gaps (1) learning how to defend and (2) learning how to shoot. So he news to ferment first in Austin before even considering him sniffing the floor. If D-league is to demoralizing a demotion for his ego, then I say that he gets traded with the first opportunity.

He looks better than Simmons already.

[Obstructed_View]

People forget Pop benched an old Terry Porter for rookie 19 year old TP midway thru the season. you never know what Murray will turn into

I think AD was the starter early on, not TP.

[Chinook]

Speights to LAC for the min. Gotta say, if that's all it took, I might would've preferred to Denmon on the RE 1+1.

[SPURt]

Speights to LAC for the min. Gotta say, if that's all it took, I might would've preferred to Denmon on the RE 1+1.
+1

[BackHome]

The back up for Leonard will be our demise, am issue often overlooked around here

We are loosing 3 PF - Diaw/West/Bonner. To me we have no one in the pipe line that can come close to these guys and I don't even see a decent PF on our summer league team.

[picnroll]

Wouldn't mind picking up Woods. Think he's available.

[djohn14]

Murray is a rookie, for gods sake......

your elementary children are rookies in the game of life....

think of it that way

Yep, the guy is 19 and just played his first competitive game in over 3 months, looked pretty good, and people bitch. We historically do a great job at developing players and we have a kid with a lot of potential. Just sit back and enjoy watching him develope.

[SpursFan86]

Speights to LAC for the min. Gotta say, if that's all it took, I might would've preferred to Denmon on the RE 1+1.

Really? Have to disagree with you on that one. Considering the other guys on the roster, I think an interior presence like Dedmon is much more preferable to Speights. Dedmon's rim protection and rebounding is much needed for a bench unit that could very well end up having KA play at the 4.

Besides, I've always thought Speights was quite overrated. He has his moments (and it was interesting to see him add a 3-point shot to his game last season), but in general he's not a very good player. He's been a net negative for GS these past couple of years IMO.

If we got Speights for the minimum, who would you want to get for the RE?

[Nathan89]

The back up for Leonard will be our demise, am issue often overlooked around here

The starting pg will be our demise.

[montgod]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242766/Dario-Saric-May-Not-Join-76ers-For-16-17

I wish Spurs could trade for his rights since 76ers have Simmons.

[montgod]

Really? Have to disagree with you on that one. Considering the other guys on the roster, I think an interior presence like Dedmon is much more preferable to Speights. Dedmon's rim protection and rebounding is much needed for a bench unit that could very well end up having KA play at the 4.

Besides, I've always thought Speights was quite overrated. He has his moments (and it was interesting to see him add a 3-point shot to his game last season), but in general he's not a very good player. He's been a net negative for GS these past couple of years IMO.

If we got Speights for the minimum, who would you want to get for the RE?

I agree... rim protector is definitely more in need than another scorer off the bench.

[sasaint]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242766/Dario-Saric-May-Not-Join-76ers-For-16-17

I wish Spurs could trade for his rights since they have Simmons.

:tu Dario's decision may have less to do with money than NBA destination. If you were one of the best Euros would you want to join a team in disarray without ANY proven leadership that just selected Ben Simmons in the draft?

[montgod]

:tu Dario's decision may have less to do with money than NBA destination. If you were one of the best Euros would you want to join a team in disarray without ANY proven leadership that just selected Ben Simmons in the draft?

It might be but Spurs can't afford him this year anyways if we could get him. Next year, he definitely will get a pay day so it makes sense for him to wait another year.

[sasaint]

It might be but Spurs can't afford him this year anyways if we could get him. Next year, he definitely will get a pay day so it makes sense for him to wait another year.

As a first round pick, isn't his salary slotted?

[look_at_g_shred]

The starting pg will be our demise.
I like that.

[palangi]

We are loosing 3 PF - Diaw/West/Bonner. To me we have no one in the pipe line that can come close to these guys and I don't even see a decent PF on our summer league team.
KA is the Diaw replacement. And he should be just fine.

[Chinook]

As a first round pick, isn't his salary slotted?

Not after this season.

[montgod]

As a first round pick, isn't his salary slotted?

Not after that third year...

[sasaint]

Not after this season.

Thanks. Frankly I didn't recall when he was drafted. Good to know. He actually has zero incentive to join the Sixers this season.

[SPURt]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242766/Dario-Saric-May-Not-Join-76ers-For-16-17

I wish Spurs could trade for his rights since 76ers have Simmons.
"(Saric's parents are) counting every dollar because this is their gravy train," the source said.
Yikes.

[montgod]

Thanks. Frankly I didn't recall when he was drafted. Good to know. He actually has zero incentive to join the Sixers this season.

Pretty much. Check out the link I included with my initial post.

[sasaint]

Pretty much. Check out the link I included with my initial post.

I already did. Thanks. That's why I entered the conversation.

[ducks]

Clippers sign big man Marreese Speights to one-year-deal

The Clippers added some championship pedigree to their bench Friday, agreeing with free agent Marreese Speights on a one-year deal to be their backup big man for the veteran’s minimum salary. Speights, who can play center and power forward, won a title with the Golden State Warriors in 2015 and was one victory away from a repeat last month before the Cleveland Cavaliers’ epic comeback from a 3-1 deficit in the NBA Finals. Playing for the Warriors also made Speights something of an arch-rival of the Clippers, though the tenor of the rivalry had gone from revulsion to resignation. Golden State won seven of the last eight meetings between the teams after the Clippers defeated the Warriors in the first round of the 2014 playoffs. ...

[DPG21920]

Clippers sign big man Marreese Speights to one-year-deal

The Clippers added some championship pedigree to their bench Friday, agreeing with free agent Marreese Speights on a one-year deal to be their backup big man for the veteran’s minimum salary. Speights, who can play center and power forward, won a title with the Golden State Warriors in 2015 and was one victory away from a repeat last month before the Cleveland Cavaliers’ epic comeback from a 3-1 deficit in the NBA Finals. Playing for the Warriors also made Speights something of an arch-rival of the Clippers, though the tenor of the rivalry had gone from revulsion to resignation. Golden State won seven of the last eight meetings between the teams after the Clippers defeated the Warriors in the first round of the 2014 playoffs. ...

Ducks, does Woj send you carrier pigeons?

[NASpurs]

751525450430623744

[-21-]

Ducks, does Woj send you carrier pigeons?

:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

751525666919559168

A rim protector, just what the Warriors needed. What a coincidence.

Either Cuban is a huge cuck, or there's some illegal $hit going on behind closed doors

[Ron Swanson]

751525666919559168

A rim protector, just what the Warriors needed. What a coincidence.

Either Cuban is a huge cuck, or there's some illegal $hit going on behind closed doors

How about both?

[TheGreatYacht]

How about both?
Good point, tbh.

[Mnky]

751525666919559168

A rim protector, just what the Warriors needed. What a coincidence.

Either Cuban is a huge cuck, or there's some illegal $hit going on behind closed doors

Maybe spurs show interest? If he goes to warriors. It's another player smart coaching can abuse. One of the good things about their bench was that they were all hussle type players with awareness. They've lost a lot of the dirty work players. I really want to see what they have outside the top 5. Last year , San Antonio's top 5 could hang with anyone. It was the lack of bench scoring and defense that killed them. Spurs are looking much better this year on both ends tbh. Warriors only improved in one area.. could work out against them.

[SPURt]

751525666919559168

A rim protector, just what the Warriors needed. What a coincidence.

Either Cuban is a huge cuck, or there's some illegal $hit going on behind closed doors
He's only 28? I thought he was older

[look_at_g_shred]

I hope he goes to the warriors tbh.

[ceperez]

751525450430623744

Eh..... vet minimum!

hmmm.... wasn't he injured?

[raybies]

Don't want Javale at all. Not even a little bit.

[Spurs9]

Javale :wow

[NASpurs]

751536498227355648

[Chinook]

751536498227355648

:lol at him acting like the team hasn't been shopping him for weeks.

Anyway, if the Spurs still had disposable contracts, I'd be okay with it. Dude can score. But obviously, I'm not giving up rotation players for him.

[Leetonidas]

Gay would be nice scoring off the bench since we have no real backup SF. wouldn't mind but doubt it happens

[coachmac87]

:lol at him acting like the team hasn't been shopping him for weeks.

Anyway, if the Spurs still have disposable contracts, I'd be okay with it. Dude can score. But obviously, I'm not giving up rotation players for him.

What would be a realistic trade option with us? Seems impossible tbh lol

[NASpurs]

:lol at him acting like the team hasn't been shopping him for weeks.

Anyway, if the Spurs still have disposable contracts, I'd be okay with it. Dude can score. But obviously, I'm not giving up rotation players for him.

What kind of trade do you have in mind?

[NASpurs]

Trade Duncan's contract before he retires :lol

[Chinook]

What would be a realistic trade option with us? Seems impossible tbh lol

Yeah, I mean, the Spurs just dumped the guys they would have been able to use for trade bait. So no, there's no question that every Spur who could be used in a trade is more valuable than Gay.

[Chinook]

What kind of trade do you have in mind?

I meant "had" not "have". There's no trade that I can see that I'd do.

[kobyz]

751536498227355648
:lol at him acting like the team hasn't been shopping him for weeks.

Anyway, if the Spurs still had disposable contracts, I'd be okay with it. Dude can score. But obviously, I'm not giving up rotation players for him.


A year too late, trading for him last season and we are the champions right now

[NASpurs]

Duncan + Mills + Anderson worked on the Trade Machine :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Didn't we get a trade exception for Diaw? Pull the trigger RC

[Chinook]

Trade Duncan's contract before he retires :lol

It's an idea. He can Mills should get it done. They might need to include Simmons to create the incentive for SAC to take Duncan's dead money. But I don't think Manu would be about giving up $7 Million for Rudy.


Duncan + Mills + Anderson worked on the Trade Machine :lol

Wouldn't consider Anderson as part of the deal. Him, Murray and Bertans. Are off-limits as far as cheap prospects.

[raybies]

Duncan + Mills + Anderson worked on the Trade Machine :lol

That would actually be a decent haul for them considering nobody really wants to give up anything, I'm assuming of course.

[coachmac87]

Duncan + Mills + Anderson worked on the Trade Machine :lol

Id do that lol

[Emperor]

Parker for Gay.

[NASpurs]

It's an idea. He can Mills should get it done. They might need to include Simmons to create the incentive for SAC to take Duncan's dead money. But I don't think Manu would be about giving up $7 Million for Rudy.



Wouldn't consider Anderson as part of the deal. Him, Murray and Bertans. Are off-limits as far as cheap prospects.

I would give up Simmons in this scenario and keep Anderson, and Anderson and Gay could alternate between playing backup SFs and PF in small ball situations next year, which I'm guessing will be numerous.

[Chinook]

I would give up Simmons in this scenario and keep Anderson, and Anderson and Gay could alternate between playing backup SFs and PF in small ball situations next year, which I'm guessing will be numerous.

I don't think it would be situational. I think that's just what they'd do normally. Would be nice to have a go-to scorer off the bench, but again, I don't think Manu would accept that.

[ducks]

manu would accept that
the big three have no ego

[Mnky]

I'd take Rudy over manu in a heartbeat. Manu can take that 20 MIL elsewhere.

[td4mvp2k]

green for gay easy :tu

[K...]

green for gay easy :tu

you just said that to piss off chinook right?

[ceperez]

green for gay easy :tu

hmmm..... will need to add mills with green and it works out.

or parker + murray. or something like that.

I would do it!

[palangi]

Trade green and mills for Rudy Gay. Then bring in Hanga who wants to come over.

Starting Lineup

parker
gay
leonard
LMA
pau

2nd unit

Murray
Manu
Bertans
Anderson
Dedmon

Rest of Bench

Forbes
Hanga
Simmons
LJC
???

[Spur|n|Austin]

Ducks, does Woj send you carrier pigeons?

He got via fax give him a break

[cjw]

Find a way to keep Bonner's bird rights (would mean some insane maneuvering) and sign him for a crazy contract to make the salaries match. Can trade him December 1 or something.

[marinoman]

Our second units sux so much.

[raybies]

Trade green and mills for Rudy Gay. Then bring in Hanga who wants to come over.

Starting Lineup

parker
gay
leonard
LMA
pau

2nd unit

Murray
Manu
Bertans
Anderson
Dedmon

Rest of Bench

Forbes
Hanga
Simmons
LJC
???

I actually like it. Sorry Green lovers/defenders. Gay is more versatile and as long as he understands he would be the 4th/5th option. I think it might work. I'm only concerned with the shooting from three, although Leonard would make a fine shooting guard imo. The bench though might struggle with consistency with so many new players. But this is a move you could make at the trade deadline if the season isn't going great.

As for Hanga, he said he's not coming over this year.

[Spurs9]

They can have Parker, we got Murray now. :king

[Spurs9]

Trade green and mills for Rudy Gay. Then bring in Hanga who wants to come over.

Starting Lineup

parker
gay
leonard
LMA
pau

2nd unit

Murray
Manu
Bertans
Anderson
Dedmon

Rest of Bench

Forbes
Hanga
Simmons
LJC
???
I like this :tu

[Robz4000]

Our second units sux so much.

First unit isn't so hot either.

[palangi]

I actually like it. Sorry Green lovers/defenders. Gay is more versatile and as long as he understands he would be the 4th/5th option. I think it might work. I'm only concerned with the shooting from three, although Leonard would make a fine shooting guard imo. The bench though might struggle with consistency with so many new players. But this is a move you could make at the trade deadline if the season isn't going great.

As for Hanga, he said he's not coming over this year.
He did say in a tweet the other day he wants to play in the NBA.

[palangi]

At 6'9" and a 7'2" wingspan Rudy would be an interesting matchup with Durrant.

[HarlemHeat37]

Gay would be fine as a 6th or 7th man if he accepted that role, tbh..should never be starting on a legit NBA contender team, though, there's a reason literally every team he joins gets worse, and every team he leaves gets better:lol

There's no way you can build a championship offense if he's in your starting unit IMO..

[loveforthegame]

751548310066900992

[Chinook]

Gay would be fine as a 6th or 7th man if he accepted that role, tbh..should never be starting on a legit NBA contender team, though, there's a reason literally every team he joins gets worse, and every team he leaves gets better:lol

There's no way you can build a championship offense if he's in your starting unit IMO..

Yeah, he's much more of a Beli replacement than a Green replacement. Dude's a net-negative as a starter.

[Nathan89]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK7lIjFsGvg

[HarlemHeat37]

Yeah, he's much more of a Beli replacement than a Green replacement. Dude's a net-negative as a starter.

I would say more of a Manu replacement, in a much different way(Gay is a terrible passer, but could carry the bench load as an ISO scorer)..

Who knows, though, he's going to be 30 very soon, maybe he's tired of losing and would be willing to alter his style of play(the embarrassment with the Raptors fueled him to have arguably his best NBA season in 2014-2015 with the Kings, for example)..

An entire year of Cousins and Rondo on your team would probably make you lose your mind:lol

[tonight...you]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK7lIjFsGvg
:lol

[Emperor]

Yeah, he's much more of a Beli replacement than a Green replacement. Dude's a net-negative as a starter.

More like Kawhi insurance imo. The offense wouldn't take as much of a hit as the defense would.

[Boogie Munster]

Per KSAT News, Tim Duncan's decision will be delayed a few more days out of respect for the fallen police officers killed in an ambush in Dallas.

[ceperez]

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Too bad.... he was a very good mobile defender.

[pad300]

Didn't we get a trade exception for Diaw? Pull the trigger RC

I am not sure if we did - the rules are a little murky to me. However, Trade exceptions count against cap ; we would have to renounce it to have the space to sign Gasol...

[Leetonidas]

Spurs have to renounce the TPE for Gasol

[cd98]

Forget Gay, he's too expensive. How about we free McLemore. He's sucked but he has all the tools to be good. He's on the trading block. Spurs could save his career. He's on a rookie deal; seems like a trade could be possible.

[Seventyniner]

Find a way to keep Bonner's bird rights (would mean some insane maneuvering) and sign him for a crazy contract to make the salaries match. Can trade him December 1 or something.

I wonder if that's ever been tried? Sign Bonner to an almost fully non-guaranteed contract (guaranteed amount equal to the vet min) to match Gay's but with a guarantee date of October 1. Then after the trade is done the Kings waive Bonner.

That's such a big loophole that it can't be right. But I don't know enough about the CBA to know which rule that violates.

[cjw]

I wonder if that's ever been tried? Sign Bonner to an almost fully non-guaranteed contract (guaranteed amount equal to the vet min) to match Gay's but with a guarantee date of October 1. Then after the trade is done the Kings waive Bonner.

That's such a big loophole that it can't be right. But I don't know enough about the CBA to know which rule that violates.

I think sign and trade deals have to be at least three years. And new FA can't be traded till 12/1 and one year contract guys need to give sign off on a trade.

Not sure what the date is on contracts becoming guaranteed for the whole year.

But could be a very interesting loophole!

[cd98]

I wonder if that's ever been tried? Sign Bonner to an almost fully non-guaranteed contract (guaranteed amount equal to the vet min) to match Gay's but with a guarantee date of October 1. Then after the trade is done the Kings waive Bonner.

That's such a big loophole that it can't be right. But I don't know enough about the CBA to know which rule that violates.

There was the time that Zkeith Van Horn had been retired for a year or so, and his team brought him out of retirement and signed him to a contract so they could include him in a trade and then traded him with other assets. Keith stayed retired but was still used as an asset to complete a trade for salary purposes.

[cutewizard]

Where now is our greek center?????

[GSH]

Where now is our greek center?????


2504 N. St. Mary's (Downtown)

http://www.stsophiagoc.org/assets/images/Funstival/group.jpg

[cutewizard]

2504 N. St. Mary's (Downtown)

http://www.stsophiagoc.org/assets/images/Funstival/group.jpg

lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Anyone but Bourousis :vomit:

[Chinook]

I wonder if that's ever been tried? Sign Bonner to an almost fully non-guaranteed contract (guaranteed amount equal to the vet min) to match Gay's but with a guarantee date of October 1. Then after the trade is done the Kings waive Bonner.

That's such a big loophole that it can't be right. But I don't know enough about the CBA to know which rule that violates.

S&T deals have to be for a least three years with the first season guaranteed. Bogans was the last filler S&T guy I remember.

[Obstructed_View]

There was the time that Zkeith Van Horn had been retired for a year or so, and his team brought him out of retirement and signed him to a contract so they could include him in a trade and then traded him with other assets. Keith stayed retired but was still used as an asset to complete a trade for salary purposes.

Yep. League closed that loophole almost immediately.

[sasaint]

2504 N. St. Mary's (Downtown)

http://www.stsophiagoc.org/assets/images/Funstival/group.jpg

Good one! I never miss the Greekfest!

[Spurs da champs]

What would it take to get McLemore?...he seems like he has the tools to be a '3 & D' guy, we need an extra wing defender off the bench now, anyway.

[Seventyniner]

I forgot about the Van Horn thing. That might have been his most valuable contribution to the league.

[GSH]

There was the time that Zkeith Van Horn had been retired for a year or so, and his team brought him out of retirement and signed him to a contract so they could include him in a trade and then traded him with other assets. Keith stayed retired but was still used as an asset to complete a trade for salary purposes.


A few years back, the Lakers still held rights to a guy (don't feel like dredging up his name) who had been out of basketball for something like 3-4 years. He was actually an assistant coach at some college. The Lakers signed him, and used him in a trade. He got a shitload of money for absolutely nothing, because it was impossible that he could actually come back and play. I think it was part of the Gasol trade, and to do that the player is supposed to be legitimately trying to come back and play. EVERYONE knew he couldn't, and wasn't going to try. But the league let it happen with a nudge and a wink, and the Lakers got their deal done.

[Keepin' it real]

He's only 28? I thought he was older

But everyone here says Simmons is already 27.

Only 28 ... but already 27???

You people know they make pills for this.

[mo7888]

What would it take to get McLemore?...he seems like he has the tools to be a '3 & D' guy, we need an extra wing defender off the bench now, anyway.

I think patty mills would do it

[kobyz]

Forbes or Hanlan for last roster spot, who will get it?

[Kikoluna]

Mills is better than Sacramento dude, not a good trade

[kobyz]

Trade idea: danny green and murray for gordon hayward... Utah afraid to lose hayward for nothing as he free agent next summer and we need firepower to try and compete with gsw...

[Chinook]

Forget Gay, he's too expensive. How about we free McLemore. He's sucked but he has all the tools to be good. He's on the trading block. Spurs could save his career. He's on a rookie deal; seems like a trade could be possible.

There's not point in trading for prospects. The team has plenty of potential guys now. They need to look at legit high-caliber guys if they look at all, especially given the initial condition of them trying to get utility out of Tim's contract.

[tonight...you]

Trade idea: danny green and murray for gordon hayward... Utah afraid to lose hayward for nothing as he free agent next summer and we need firepower to try and compete with gsw...
Isn't Hayward a SF? I do like him as a player...

[kobyz]

Isn't Hayward a SF? I do like him as a player...

He can play both positions, you can also play Patty with him while Hayward being in playmaker role a la Manu...

[tonight...you]

He can play both positions, you can also play Patty with him while Hayward being in playmaker role a la Manu...
I would hate hate hate to lose Green, but that's tempting IMO. I'm sure someone will come in and quash it all with numbers and such.
I look forward to a more thorough analysis of this scenario.

[ace3g]

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Sources on @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical): All-Star James Harden has agreed to a 4-year, $118M contract renegotiation that takes him through 2020 in Houston.

[BillMc]

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Sources on @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical): All-Star James Harden has agreed to a 4-year, $118M contract renegotiation that takes him through 2020 in Houston.

Is this an extension? I may be completely off base here, but I thought the CB didn't allow for existing contracts to be renegotiated?

[ace3g]

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@EricPincus (https://twitter.com/EricPincus) can any player do a renegotiation?


1:34 PM - 9 Jul 2016







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Eric Pincus Retweeted Jesse Beer
No - I list the players eligible - short list - need to be on at least a 4-year contract http://www.basketballinsiders.com/utah-jazz-should-restructure-derrick-favors-contract/ … (https://t.co/FHtJvISo3W)

[cjw]

Is this an extension? I may be completely off base here, but I thought the CB didn't allow for existing contracts to be renegotiated?

Can be renegotiated three years after signing (so four year deals only). Probably something the players union got in negotiations - teams are more likely to give the fourth year if it means they'll have a chance to renegotiate.

[BillMc]

Can be renegotiated three years after signing (so four year deals only). Probably something the players union got in negotiations - teams are more likely to give the fourth year if it means they'll have a chance to renegotiate.

Didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification!:toast

[Mel_13]

Can be renegotiated three years after signing (so four year deals only). Probably something the players union got in negotiations - teams are more likely to give the fourth year if it means they'll have a chance to renegotiate.

It's actually not a new provision in the CBA, just something that was extremely rare because the conditions that would allow it almost never happened. The bizarre circumstance of this huge one year spike in the salary cap made more players eligible. Even so, there was hardly a rush to employ it.

[SPURt]

But everyone here says Simmons is already 27.

Only 28 ... but already 27???

You people know they make pills for this.
I've never had a problem with Simmons and I think he is young. My definition of young means the player is from there physical prime or younger.

[NASpurs]

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[LakerHater]

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[SpurPadre]

Goddamnit, getting Sanders, although rusty and a former headcase, could end up working for the Dubs big time even in a limited role. Fucking assholes.

[td4mvp2k]

what a midget :lol

[Mr. Body]

Goddamnit, getting Sanders, although rusty and a former headcase, could end up working for the Dubs big time even in a limited role. Fucking assholes.

I dunno, I have a feeling there'll be some weird locker room stuff going on with that team.

[r0drig0lac]

this is the reason to sign West

[Leetonidas]

He might be trolling because the next picture he posted was cavalier in a red coat :lol dude hasnt even played in awhile and doesnt give a shit about basketball, doubt this would be an earth shaking pick up

[Emperor]

He's joking around it seems. Also posted a pic of a Cavalier haha.

[Mr. Body]

this is the reason to sign West

Who looks like a surly malcontent. Think he'll get along with the pseudo-religious, self-loving twinks at the head of the team?

[spursreport]

The 2016-2017 Warriors turning into the 2013-2014 Denver Broncos. At first they were a mix of both teams, but now they are drawing more comparisons to that team. Signed their Peyton Manning (Kevin Durant), already have their other Peyton Manning (Curry), have mvps, offensive records that will be broken, regular season dominance, people/media calling them unstoppable/unbeatable, players wanting to join them, etc etc. You literally can't tell these teams apart other than it being a different sport.

[LakerHater]

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[slick'81]

If sanders gets off the pot, big if he could be a steal.

[LakerHater]

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[Robz4000]

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Lakers gonna give him the max now.

[spurs10]

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Sources on @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical): All-Star James Harden has agreed to a 4-year, $118M contract renegotiation that takes him through 2020 in Houston. Bet this does a lot for team morale. Feel bad for Rocket fans.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't.

[Vic Petro]

Warriors signing Larry Sanders when California voters are about to legalize recreational use of marijuana in November would be perfect. :hat