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spursparker9
07-02-2016, 10:09 PM
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ace3g
07-02-2016, 10:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/609330065084710913/zCfWqaQA_bigger.jpg Ed Isaacson ‏@nbadraftblog (https://twitter.com/nbadraftblog)

NBA sources have informed me that 6th Man of the Year Jamal Crawford and Golden State are close to signing a multiyear deal

TheGoldStandard
07-02-2016, 10:18 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/609330065084710913/zCfWqaQA_bigger.jpg Ed Isaacson ‏@nbadraftblog (https://twitter.com/nbadraftblog)

NBA sources have informed me that 6th Man of the Year Jamal Crawford and Golden State are close to signing a multiyear deal

Damn.. another spur killer

sasaint
07-02-2016, 10:18 PM
Just read a tweet that said Conley is going to make over $370K per game with this contract. PER GAME. I almost threw up.

FYI, Walt Frazier's highest annual salary was $300,00 ( +/- $875,000 today, or less than 2.5 games for Conley). :wow

AFBlue
07-02-2016, 10:20 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/609330065084710913/zCfWqaQA_bigger.jpg Ed Isaacson ‏@nbadraftblog (https://twitter.com/nbadraftblog)

NBA sources have informed me that 6th Man of the Year Jamal Crawford and Golden State are close to signing a multiyear deal

That would pull them out if the running for KD right?

Leetonidas
07-02-2016, 10:20 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/609330065084710913/zCfWqaQA_bigger.jpg Ed Isaacson ‏@nbadraftblog (https://twitter.com/nbadraftblog)

NBA sources have informed me that 6th Man of the Year Jamal Crawford and Golden State are close to signing a multiyear deal

No way. So they must not think Durant is coming?

sasaint
07-02-2016, 10:21 PM
Damn.. another spur killer

But why sign Crawford if you are still in the hunt for Durant? (I do not believe he is coming to SA, but maybe the Spurs should follow the Dubs' example and move on.)

TheGoldStandard
07-02-2016, 10:24 PM
But why sign Crawford if you are still in the hunt for Durant? (I do not believe he is coming to SA, but maybe the Spurs should follow the Dubs' example and move on.)

Dubs can get tons of space if they just start letting people go so Barnes could still be gone, or other bench pieces to make room for Crawford.. Just imagine the flukey 3's Crawford will hit in that system.

cd98
07-02-2016, 10:29 PM
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Not sure "sources" would say anything different. What are they going to say??? Brady was pointless? Or that he sucked up the presentation.

not sure why they brought him, only Boston sycophants worship him.

NASpurs
07-02-2016, 10:30 PM
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Hoops Czar
07-02-2016, 10:30 PM
Dubs can get tons of space if they just start letting people go so Barnes could still be gone, or other bench pieces to make room for Crawford.. Just imagine the flukey 3's Crawford will hit in that system.

Crawford is an upgrade over Barnes.

AFBlue
07-02-2016, 10:31 PM
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Yeah, they clearly don't think they have a shot.

NASpurs
07-02-2016, 10:33 PM
Yeah, they clearly don't think they have a shot.

I remember reading a tweet yesterday that Durant's camp were going to tell the Clippers Saturday night whether or not they were still in the running. With these moves they're making, it's obvious what Durant told them.

Ron Swanson
07-02-2016, 10:33 PM
"Blown away" - Broussard

NASpurs
07-02-2016, 10:37 PM
Yeah, they clearly don't think they have a shot.

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That was yesterday.

raybies
07-02-2016, 10:37 PM
1 down, 5 teams remaining. Made the first cut

tmtcsc
07-02-2016, 10:37 PM
"Blown away" - Broussard

Way "blown away". Tears from the owner? Thats just disturbing and desperate.

siraulo23
07-02-2016, 10:37 PM
4 hours, intense meeting, blown away but now clippers officially not in the race

Leetonidas
07-02-2016, 10:37 PM
I think Durant was blown away at what a bunch of faggots the clippers are after Balmer cried :lol

Mr. Body
07-02-2016, 10:41 PM
1 down, 5 teams remaining. Made the first cut

Well, no. He could have turned us down, too.

Hoops Czar
07-02-2016, 10:47 PM
Well, no. He could have turned us down, too.

He didn't turn anyone down. Teams know that Durant is heading back to OKC and the free agent pool is drying up so they're being proactive. None of these players are actually signed so technically the team and/or player can back out of any deal before July 7th.

SAGirl
07-02-2016, 10:49 PM
But why sign Crawford if you are still in the hunt for Durant? (I do not believe he is coming to SA, but maybe the Spurs should follow the Dubs' example and move on.)

Clippers appear to be moving on to sign their own guys too.

AFBlue
07-02-2016, 10:50 PM
Well, no. He could have turned us down, too.

If he did, I assume the Spurs would be moving on like the Clippers and apparently the Warriors are.

AFBlue
07-02-2016, 10:51 PM
"Blown away" - Broussard

:lmao

Chinook
07-02-2016, 10:52 PM
If he did, I assume the Spurs would be moving on like the Clippers and apparently the Warriors are.

The Spurs don't have much to move on to. If they are staying over the cap, the only thing that matters is inking Bertans with the LLE. They won't be able to offer Boban anything more than the full MLE. If they go under the cap, they really have to see what Tim and Gasol do before making any other move.

Mr. Body
07-02-2016, 10:54 PM
He didn't turn anyone down. Teams know that Durant is heading back to OKC and the free agent pool is drying up so they're being proactive. None of these players are actually signed so technically the team and/or player can back out of any deal before July 7th.

Read the thread. It appears he turned down the Clippers.

AFBlue
07-02-2016, 10:55 PM
The Spurs don't have much to move on to. If they are staying over the cap, the only thing that matters is inking Bertans with the LLE. They won't be able to offer Boban anything more than the full MLE. If they go under the cap, they really have to see what Tim and Gasol do before making any other move.

Gasol is exactly the reason to believe the Spurs are still in it. If they were informed that they were out if the running it's reasonable to assume they would've quickly moved on to Gasol.

Budkin
07-02-2016, 10:57 PM
Way "blown away". Tears from the owner? Thats just disturbing and desperate.

Broussard wanted it so bad!

TheGoldStandard
07-02-2016, 10:58 PM
The Spurs don't have much to move on to. If they are staying over the cap, the only thing that matters is inking Bertans with the LLE. They won't be able to offer Boban anything more than the full MLE. If they go under the cap, they really have to see what Tim and Gasol do before making any other move.

I think the Gasol thing would be done by now.. Offers have been thrown out.. I'm sure SA already gave him an amount they would be comfortable with if Durant said no. I'm sure they're just waiting to hear something from their camp and we will get a Gasol is leaning towards a deal with San Antonio or elsewhere..

GSH
07-02-2016, 10:59 PM
Mahinmi got $64M / 4 yrs. from the Wizards? So the Spurs couldn't have afforded him anyway, without major surgery. Unless Gasol is in the mood to sacrifice money to come here, that's probably a moot point, too.

TheGoldStandard
07-02-2016, 11:02 PM
Mahinmi got $64M / 4 yrs. from the Wizards? So the Spurs couldn't have afforded him anyway, without major surgery. Unless Gasol is in the mood to sacrifice money to come here, that's probably a moot point, too.

Not necessarily, the Spurs might dole out 12-13 mil for Gasol which is still great money for a contender. Or they might catch a slight break and offer longer terms.. He's 36, if they give him a 3 year deal with a player option for that 3rd year 3/36 might do it.

AFBlue
07-02-2016, 11:05 PM
Mahinmi got $64M / 4 yrs. from the Wizards? So the Spurs couldn't have afforded him anyway, without major surgery. Unless Gasol is in the mood to sacrifice money to come here, that's probably a moot point, too.

Mahinmi's deal has no bearing on Gasol's potential deal. He knows what the Spurs can afford/clear to sign him, and thus far he hasn't signed elsewhere.

GSH
07-02-2016, 11:11 PM
Not necessarily, the Spurs might dole out 12-13 mil for Gasol which is still great money for a contender. Or they might catch a slight break and offer longer terms.. He's 36, if they give him a 3 year deal with a player option for that 3rd year 3/36 might do it.

Mahinmi's deal has no bearing on Gasol's potential deal. He knows what the Spurs can afford/clear to sign him, and thus far he hasn't signed elsewhere.

Does anybody ever read before replying anymore? I thought I was pretty clear about that. If Gasol is in the mood to give up millions to come here, sure it's still possible... IF.


Unless Gasol is in the mood to sacrifice money to come here, that's probably a moot point, too.

There are still a bunch of teams sitting on a shitload of money. One of them is going to offer Gasol something similar to what Ian got. Which means he will have to choose the Spurs over a full payday.

Yeah, Mahinmi's deal has no "bearing" on Gasol signing here. Except that it shows teams are still throwing big money around, and that big men are in demand.

AFBlue
07-02-2016, 11:15 PM
Does anybody ever read before replying anymore? I thought I was pretty clear about that. If Gasol is in the mood to give up millions to come here, sure it's still possible... IF.



There are still a bunch of teams sitting on a shitload of money. One of them is going to offer Gasol something similar to what Ian got. Which means he will have to choose the Spurs over a full payday.

If he wasn't considering coming here, it's pretty likely that he'd already be under contract somewhere. No less than three teams have made him a priority during the first 24hrs of free agency. Is it speculation? Yes. But it's pretty logical speculation.

By the way, yes I read your reply.

cjw
07-02-2016, 11:16 PM
Crawford is a total chucker and will get worse as he gets further into his 30s. I really hope the Warriors waste their exception on him.

TheGoldStandard
07-02-2016, 11:16 PM
Does anybody ever read before replying anymore? I thought I was pretty clear about that. If Gasol is in the mood to give up millions to come here, sure it's still possible... IF.



There are still a bunch of teams sitting on a shitload of money. One of them is going to offer Gasol something similar to what Ian got. Which means he will have to choose the Spurs over a full payday.

Yeah, Mahinmi's deal has no "bearing" on Gasol signing here. Except that it shows teams are still throwing big money around, and that big men are in demand.


What'd you say? I didn't bother reading..

GSH
07-02-2016, 11:23 PM
What'd you say? I didn't bother reading..


:lol

hooperflash
07-02-2016, 11:27 PM
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raybies
07-02-2016, 11:55 PM
Sam Amico ‏@AmicoHoops (https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/749465958587179009)
Kevin Durant has informed #Clippers (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Clippers?src=hash) he will not be joining them, per LA Times.

LakerHater
07-02-2016, 11:56 PM
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raybies
07-02-2016, 11:58 PM
good call on the whole, he hasn't turned down anyone talk. we are still in and if we weren't things would've started to get moving. right now, it's okc, golden state, spurs, celtics, and heat since they haven't been seen yet. okc should have the leg up right now.

We just got to make it to the finals and then anything can happen.

99 Problems
07-03-2016, 12:05 AM
Sound like he is going to tell teams if they're out and let them move on with off season dealings. Therefore the longer there is no Spurs movement (in) means we are still alive. :toast

Keepin' it real
07-03-2016, 12:11 AM
Free agent Ian Mahinmi has agreed to a four year, $64M deal with Washington


Why??? When he could have taken the league minimum to get scapegoated and benched by Pop? Poor decision.

Hoops Czar
07-03-2016, 12:13 AM
Sound like he is going to tell teams if they're out and let them move on with off season dealings. Therefore the longer there is no Spurs movement (in) means we are still alive. :toast

The Clippers probably contacted Durant's agent to see if there was any real shot of him joining their team because Players are threatening to sign elsewhere. If Crawford re-ups with the Clippers, that's exactly what happened.

JR3
07-03-2016, 12:36 AM
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So much for being "blown away"...

Budkin
07-03-2016, 01:04 AM
So much for being "blown away"...

Broussard just making shit up per par...

LakerHater
07-03-2016, 01:14 AM
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SD126
07-03-2016, 01:16 AM
So much for being "blown away"...

More like the Clippers being blown away that the 4 hours they wasted turned out to be a 4 hours they wish they could have back.

szkorhetz
07-03-2016, 01:53 AM
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Good deal!

LakerHater
07-03-2016, 01:58 AM
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szkorhetz
07-03-2016, 02:17 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ZVmPdm2.png?1
One of my peers just the Hungarian Spurs draftee Ádám Hanga. The # says: #TimDuncanwillstay
Don't read too much into it, but likely Hanga won't be taken over until Manu and Duncan won't retire, that's what he is told and he won'tget a contract

cutewizard
07-03-2016, 05:08 AM
these Boston Celtics are very interesting, hmmmm.......

they have long-term planning, a very good basketball vision

they have a very smart coach, a young Coach Pop-like human

and they have a basketball system in place......

SPURS OF THE EAST??!! HMMMMM

objective
07-03-2016, 05:59 AM
It's great for Ian. He's put the work in, and after being set aside as a nothing or emergency player, then as a backup, when he was finally freed he made the NBA recognize his talent. In the think tank free agency thread I speculated it might take 4/60, looks like I was too short.

It feels like it was only yesterday there were threads where I argued with posters who swore Ian couldn't play, and swore by Pop keeping him out of the way, and him never getting a chance. So many were sure he wasn't an NBA player, justifying the judgements without watching and thinking for themselves. They just couldn't see. Just like they couldn't see with Scola. Couldn't see with Splitter. Can't see now with Boban or Simmons. If Ian had returned to the Spurs i could bumped my "Free Ian!" thread, but that's okay.

Chinook
07-03-2016, 06:03 AM
Ian sucked for years. That he's finally a starter after being in the league for a decade means little.

montgod
07-03-2016, 06:50 AM
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Wow...great deal! Jealous Spurs couldn't have nabbed him for that price, but I know.... waiting on Durant.

GSH
07-03-2016, 07:55 AM
Here's a list of FA's that have signed, their salary, team, and % of the cap:

https://twitter.com/TommyBeer/status/749583428983619584/photo/1

Mal
07-03-2016, 08:08 AM
Here's a list of FA's that have signed, their salary, team, and % of the cap:

https://twitter.com/TommyBeer/status/749583428983619584/photo/1

There was posted somewhere, same list with additional row with salaries in $ for old cap space.

Foundit http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260142&page=99&p=8649886&viewfull=1#post8649886

GSH
07-03-2016, 08:11 AM
Wow...great deal! Jealous Spurs couldn't have nabbed him for that price, but I know.... waiting on Durant.

$3M a year seems like a bargain for arena janitors right now. Ennis showed he could light it up, but only for about 9 games at the end of the season. He's either going to be a huge bargain, or a huge waste of 6 Million dollars. I'm really starting to think that it's either Durant, or a bunch of Euros and a D-League call-up or two. I'm sort of getting comfortable with the idea.

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 08:13 AM
these Boston Celtics are very interesting, hmmmm.......

they have long-term planning, a very good basketball vision

they have a very smart coach, a young Coach Pop-like human

and they have a basketball system in place......

SPURS OF THE EAST??!! HMMMMM

I don't know how good their basketball vision is. They destroyed The worst GM in history in the trade with the Nets, Ainge is a decent drafter, and they planned their cap room, which isn't really that hard to do. Their real genius is in their coach. Brad Stevens makes his players better. He's taken some sub-stars and near scrubs and made them look way better than they are.

Kikoluna
07-03-2016, 09:34 AM
Boston is terrible. That Thomas guy at 5'7 and Al 15 points per game horford? Common

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 09:54 AM
Boston is terrible. That Thomas guy at 5'7 and Al 15 points per game horford? Common

I don't see how the addition of Horford changes much. He's barely star level, didn't produce in the playoffs. Hrs not a game changer and is 30. The rest of the roster is just okay. Only elite thing they have is their coach.

ace3g
07-03-2016, 09:57 AM
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Free agent forward Andrew Nicholson has agreed to a four-year, $26 million deal with the Wizards, league source tells @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical).

Chinook
07-03-2016, 10:05 AM
Dedmon is going to get paid.

FromWayDowntown
07-03-2016, 10:17 AM
There are still a bunch of teams sitting on a shitload of money. One of them is going to offer Gasol something similar to what Ian got. Which means he will have to choose the Spurs over a full payday.

One thing that might make this more likely than it might otherwise seem is the fact that two years ago, Gasol faced the same choice -- Spurs vs. more money -- chose the bigger payday, and ended up in a disappointing situation. One would think that will bear upon how he resolves the situation this summer. That's not to say that the Spurs are clearly a better situation than anyone else who might offer him money, but if the choice is between the Spurs at a smaller payday and an iffy situation with a bigger payday, the Spurs may have an advantage.

AFBlue
07-03-2016, 10:30 AM
One thing that might make this more likely than it might otherwise seem is the fact that two years ago, Gasol faced the same choice -- Spurs vs. more money -- chose the bigger payday, and ended up in a disappointing situation. One would think that will bear upon how he resolves the situation this summer. That's not to say that the Spurs are clearly a better situation than anyone else who might offer him money, but if the choice is between the Spurs at a smaller payday and an iffy situation with a bigger payday, the Spurs may have an advantage.

Very sensible, solid take. :tu

DPG21920
07-03-2016, 10:39 AM
Wow - Burke dumped for just a 2nd round pick. Things change quickly in the NBA.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 10:44 AM
God damn, a second was all it took to get Burke?! Meanwhile we bring back a 40yr old mummy who's worse.

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 10:52 AM
God damn, a second was all it took to get Burke?! Meanwhile we bring back a 40yr old mummy who's worse.

You don't have much to say, do you?

CGD
07-03-2016, 10:57 AM
One thing that might make this more likely than it might otherwise seem is the fact that two years ago, Gasol faced the same choice -- Spurs vs. more money -- chose the bigger payday, and ended up in a disappointing situation. One would think that will bear upon how he resolves the situation this summer. That's not to say that the Spurs are clearly a better situation than anyone else who might offer him money, but if the choice is between the Spurs at a smaller payday and an iffy situation with a bigger payday, the Spurs may have an advantage.

Good point; the only thing that cuts against this is that Pau isnt the typical ring chaser, since, well he has two. I think his desire to win/good situation thing might be a little overstated especially if someone could offer him above 12m.

Uriel
07-03-2016, 10:59 AM
One thing that might make this more likely than it might otherwise seem is the fact that two years ago, Gasol faced the same choice -- Spurs vs. more money -- chose the bigger payday, and ended up in a disappointing situation. One would think that will bear upon how he resolves the situation this summer. That's not to say that the Spurs are clearly a better situation than anyone else who might offer him money, but if the choice is between the Spurs at a smaller payday and an iffy situation with a bigger payday, the Spurs may have an advantage.
And it's not like the Spurs can't pay him either. A couple of seasons ago, they were limited to only offering Pau the MLE. This year, we can clear enough cap space to offer him at or near market value.

Canyonero
07-03-2016, 11:09 AM
God damn, a second was all it took to get Burke?! Meanwhile we bring back a 40yr old mummy who's worse.

What's wrong with Timmy coming back?

myhc
07-03-2016, 11:10 AM
God damn, a second was all it took to get Burke?! Meanwhile we bring back a 40yr old mummy who's worse.

can you stop posting? it makes my brain hurt.

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 11:12 AM
:lmao :lmao

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Seventyniner
07-03-2016, 11:12 AM
You don't have much to say, do you?

Entirely too much, in fact.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 11:16 AM
can you stop posting? it makes my brain hurt.
Put me on ignore. Don't even know who you are

SpursFan86
07-03-2016, 11:20 AM
Wow, it was a 2021 2nd round pick that got Burke? Holy shit, there must not have been much of a market for him :lol

BatManu20
07-03-2016, 11:22 AM
Tyler Johnson getting $50M :wow

BatManu20
07-03-2016, 11:23 AM
So glad the Spurs aren't giving out these horrendous contracts to role players tbh.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 11:23 AM
So glad the Spurs aren't giving out these horrendous contracts to role players tbh.
One of the positives to waiting for KD to make his decision, tbh

TheGoldStandard
07-03-2016, 11:29 AM
So glad the Spurs aren't giving out these horrendous contracts to role players tbh.

Dont know what they intend to pay manu yet.. lol..

-21-
07-03-2016, 11:32 AM
God damn, a second was all it took to get Burke?! Meanwhile we bring back a 40yr old mummy who's worse.

He sucks anyway. Outplayed by Raul Neto and Shelvin Mack.


:lmao :lmao

749635969670868992

WTF?

texbound
07-03-2016, 11:40 AM
Does anyone remember the movie BASKETball? That's what this feels like. All this money going out to 3rd and 4th tier players is going to raise the ticket prices on the fans. I'm a die hard Spurs fan, but I will not renew my league pass, or go to a game if prices are raised. I'm not paying for this lunacy.

SpursFan86
07-03-2016, 11:41 AM
The same rules that apply to Boban apply to Tyler Johnson, right? Meaning, TJ was only eligible to make $5.6 million this upcoming season, but the Nets just backloaded the shit out of the contract to where he's making $15+ million the last 2 years.

Hopefully no one does that with Boban or we'll be shit out of luck.

Kindergarten Cop
07-03-2016, 12:10 PM
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Chinook
07-03-2016, 12:14 PM
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There are a lot of RFAs who haven't been addressed yet. The Spurs should try to secure an S&T to keep the costs down.

elemento
07-03-2016, 12:14 PM
That's a decent contract for Aldrich.

Good for Minny.

GSH
07-03-2016, 12:15 PM
One thing that might make this more likely than it might otherwise seem is the fact that two years ago, Gasol faced the same choice -- Spurs vs. more money -- chose the bigger payday, and ended up in a disappointing situation. One would think that will bear upon how he resolves the situation this summer. That's not to say that the Spurs are clearly a better situation than anyone else who might offer him money, but if the choice is between the Spurs at a smaller payday and an iffy situation with a bigger payday, the Spurs may have an advantage.


And it's not like the Spurs can't pay him either. A couple of seasons ago, they were limited to only offering Pau the MLE. This year, we can clear enough cap space to offer him at or near market value.


Can't argue with any of that - except maybe the part about having any idea what "market" is right now. I just read that Toronto has entered the chase for Gasol. If they think they have a chance, they must believe that his market is a good bit less than Mahinmi got, because they'd have to clear space to even get to $10M. That doesn't mean that they're right, but maybe the market is at least south of Ian's $16M.

I still want to take Pau's silence as a sign that he's waiting to see what KD is doing, and that the Spurs are at least a strong contender.

Mouth is Bleeding
07-03-2016, 12:15 PM
It's seemingly crazy money for Tyler Johnson but he is a lot better with a lot more potential than people think.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 12:16 PM
Someone take Miles Plumlee, next. Please.

Just so I don't gotta hear about those bums on here again.

CGD
07-03-2016, 12:20 PM
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Bargain

GSH
07-03-2016, 12:25 PM
I'm thinking the Spurs should put in an offer on Allen Crabbe. The Blazers have said they're going to match any offer, so let 'em. After the Blazers commit all that cash to Crabbe, the Spurs turn around and hand an offer to Harkless, and put the Blazers in a bind to match that. Crabbe is a good player, but with Manu coming back there would be a logjam. But... it might be a way of prying Harkless loose from the Blazers.

Kawhitstorm
07-03-2016, 12:32 PM
Someone take Miles Plumlee, next. Please.

Just so I don't gotta hear about those bums on here again.

The only bigs that are being rumored are the likes of Thomas Robinson/Willie Reed whose market value is in the 2/6mill range (room exception). Plumlee is most likely going get the MLE.

BillMc
07-03-2016, 12:36 PM
I can't believe how many 8 digit contracts handed out to players I've never heard of these last 2 days.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 12:38 PM
The only bigs that are being rumored are the likes of Thomas Robinson/Willie Reed whose market value is in the 2/6mill range (room exception). Plumlee is most likely going get the MLE.
Ditch Diaw to clear some money for Pau, then replace him with Robinson for cheap :tu

No way a team outrebounds a combo of Gasol/Boban & Aldridge/Robinson

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 12:39 PM
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This means they're out of the Gasol running?

Shastafarian
07-03-2016, 12:45 PM
This means they're out of the Gasol running?

You think a 35 year old Spaniard was ever going to go to Minnesota?

AFBlue
07-03-2016, 12:46 PM
Any news on the Miami meeting with Durant and/or confirmation on him circling back with OKC?

cd98
07-03-2016, 12:48 PM
You think a 35 year old Spaniard was ever going to go to Minnesota?

This. He's made it clear he wants to be in a cosmopolitan city. Not sure SA is, but the team is, and SA is at least more Hispanic.

T Park
07-03-2016, 12:48 PM
This means they're out of the Gasol running?



Would think so.

Means it's Spurs Warriors or Blazers now most likely

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 12:49 PM
Any news on the Miami meeting with Durant and/or confirmation on him circling back with OKC?

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Keepin' it real
07-03-2016, 12:49 PM
One thing that might make this more likely than it might otherwise seem is the fact that two years ago, Gasol faced the same choice -- Spurs vs. more money -- chose the bigger payday, and ended up in a disappointing situation. One would think that will bear upon how he resolves the situation this summer. That's not to say that the Spurs are clearly a better situation than anyone else who might offer him money, but if the choice is between the Spurs at a smaller payday and an iffy situation with a bigger payday, the Spurs may have an advantage.

Are you sure about that? He got more money, more minutes and a more desirable city. He got EXACTLY what he wanted.

If anything, I look for him to make a similar decision because he's already shown what he prefers, and it's not San Antonio.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 12:51 PM
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Hopefully Riley gives us another boost just like he did last year with LMA

AFBlue
07-03-2016, 12:52 PM
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:bobo

BillMc
07-03-2016, 12:53 PM
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Well it definitely didn't include Wade talking about Riley's loyalty...:lol

cd98
07-03-2016, 12:57 PM
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Hmmm...no players willing to come or Miami hoping Durant doesn't know their roster sucks and don't want him to take note?

Kawhitstorm
07-03-2016, 01:01 PM
Ditch Diaw to clear some money for Pau, then replace him with Robinson for cheap :tu

No way a team outrebounds a combo of Gasol/Boban & Aldridge/Robinson

LMA/Robinson were teammates in Portland, we all know how that tandem worked out.:lol

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 01:04 PM
You think a 35 year old Spaniard was ever going to go to Minnesota?

Where else is he going to play if the Spurs have boo ruin for him?

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 01:05 PM
LMA/Robinson were teammates in Portland, we all know how that tandem worked out.:lol
So were LMA and Paddy :lol

Kawhitstorm
07-03-2016, 01:05 PM
This means they're out of the Gasol running?

They still have room but it makes no sense for Pau to play on such a young team when they have KG under contract to be a lockerroom leader & Dieng on the roster. Rubio is still probably recruiting him but he might be getting shipped out himself.:lol

Kawhitstorm
07-03-2016, 01:06 PM
So were LMA and Paddy :lol

...the results were disastrous in the playoffs.:wakeup

Shastafarian
07-03-2016, 01:12 PM
Where else is he going to play if the Spurs have boo ruin for him?

Any of the other places linked to interest in signing him. Spurs/Warriors > Portland/Toronto >>> Minnesota

timtonymanu
07-03-2016, 01:14 PM
Would think so.

Means it's Spurs Warriors or Blazers now most likely

You must mean Raptors instead of Warriors? Didn't know there was any interest between Pau and GS.

GSH
07-03-2016, 01:14 PM
Let's pretend:
1. Danny's 3P shooting from the playoffs follows him into this season.
2. Patty wants a big payday, so he's in the best shape of his career, and playing better than before the shoulder injury.
3. The Spurs work with Boban and turn him into a valuable backup C.
4. Kyle progresses (and the Spurs figure out exactly what position he plays)
5. Davis Bertans comes back from the ACL with a vengeance.
5. Gasol turns out to be too expensive, or just wants to play in a bigger market.

Is Bourousis good enough to play in the middle with LMA and Kawhi? If he is, is there anyone left on the FA board (that the Spurs could remotely afford) that would be a legitimate upgrade on that core?

I'm looking at who's left, and I see a bunch of guys who the Spurs can't afford, or who are going to get offers matched, or who wouldn't really be an upgrade - if you assume the best out of the players we have. Maybe $6M would pry Harkless loose from Portland, but the rest of the roster looks to me like it has to get filled out from our stash players and/or D-league.

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 01:37 PM
Any of the other places linked to interest in signing him. Spurs/Warriors > Portland/Toronto >>> Minnesota

Warriors have shown no interest. If SAS are out it's Portland or Toronto for him.

cool cat
07-03-2016, 01:42 PM
Could Pau be considering taking the MLE if we get Durant?

Just consider if Durant does decide to come to the Spurs, unlikely i agree. But say he does, help me out with the numbers here. Do we just have to get rid of Patty and Boris, maybe renounce Boban. Sign Pau to MLE, sign Manu with the Bi-annual and fill out the rest of the roster with min level guys.

Throw out a starting line up of
Tim
LMA
Kawhi
Danny
Durant
Forget using a PG just have Kawai & Durant bring up the ball.

Bench line up of
Pau
West
Kyle
Manu
Parker
Simmons
Murry

Ditty
07-03-2016, 01:44 PM
Warriors fans on Warriors World are so fucking delusional :lol I've never been happier to see a team lose in the finals since the 2012 Thunder & 2008 Lakers.

T Park
07-03-2016, 01:45 PM
You must mean Raptors instead of Warriors? Didn't know there was any interest between Pau and GS.



Raptors no, yes Warriors have interest.

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 01:51 PM
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raybies
07-03-2016, 01:51 PM
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NASpurs
07-03-2016, 01:52 PM
Fuck that, I rather take my chances with the international players and D Leaguers

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 01:52 PM
Guessing it's Gasol at a discount if Durant falls through. Pau isn't looking for loose change.

raybies
07-03-2016, 01:52 PM
Welp

Would have to trade Boris

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 01:53 PM
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Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 01:54 PM
Don't see how Pau says no to that. Spurs resign everyone and stay out of the FA market.

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 01:54 PM
Portland can have Gasol, I hope the Spurs don't go after him if it's true that's what his market is.

SD126
07-03-2016, 01:55 PM
Like Ramona Shelburne is a credible source

Juan
07-03-2016, 01:57 PM
Portland can have Gasol, I hope the Spurs don't go after him if it's true that's what his market is.

Manu wants a market contract. $10-$15M

raybies
07-03-2016, 01:58 PM
Manu wants a market contract. $10-$15M

If that's true, got to let him go

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 01:59 PM
Manu wants a market contract. $10-$15M

Sayonara then

timtonymanu
07-03-2016, 02:00 PM
If Pau wanted to go to Portland, he would have signed with them days ago when interest was picking up. Still feel like he's waiting out for the Spurs. If Tim comes back though, it's a different story.

Kawhitstorm
07-03-2016, 02:07 PM
Don't see how Pau says no to that. Spurs resign everyone and stay out of the FA market.

D-Worst :bang

sasaint
07-03-2016, 02:11 PM
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If that's true, I think they will have to renounce a couple of RFAs that could be of interest.

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2016, 02:11 PM
I don't understand why people here keep thinking Gasol prioritizes winning:lol

As I said last week and 2 years ago in the 100-page "Pau to Spurs" thread, he cares about money and touches.. He already has 2 rings, he has never been willing to sacrifice for winning, he's known as a complainer that pouts when he doesn't shoot enough..

He will go to the team that will give him money and touches..

CGD
07-03-2016, 02:17 PM
Please let the Blazers get Pau.

dbestpro
07-03-2016, 02:17 PM
Time for plan C - Roy Hibbert.

Shastafarian
07-03-2016, 02:17 PM
Warriors have shown no interest. If SAS are out it's Portland or Toronto for him.

That's fair. I'm not sure we know the Warriors aren't interested but as you say here, Minnesota would be his last choice.

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 02:22 PM
That's fair. I'm not sure we know the Warriors aren't interested but as you say here, Minnesota would be his last choice.

I've not seen Warriors mentioned regarding Gasol anywhere

FromWayDowntown
07-03-2016, 02:22 PM
If anything, I look for him to make a similar decision because he's already shown what he prefers, and it's not San Antonio.

It wouldn't surprise me if he went elsewhere, but the Spurs offer some things that other places don't for a guy like Pau, including Popovich (whose worldly personality seems likely to have an appeal to a smart guy like Pau) and a roster full of guys from all over the world.

Add to that the fact that Marc Gasol has already stated outright his belief that his brother would end up playing in San Antonio; my speculation is that Marc's views on that are informed by things that his brother has told him.

I'm torn on Gasol. I think he's a brilliant player whose intellect would fit well. I think adding his rebounding ability and shot blocking as a help defender would be a difference maker for the Spurs, but he doesn't move tremendously well on the defensive end and has struggled for some time now defending pick and rolls - to the point that teams will run multiple consecutive PnR's at him because of his deficiencies there. Pop and the Spurs' scheme might be able to mask some of that (or even to improve it), but the Spurs with Gasol might improve their rebounding and rim protection in general only to find that their being picked apart by the screen-roll game and don't have as many misses to rebound.

And with all of that said, Pau's likely not coming unless Tim retires or accepts a role coming off the bench for the coming season.

coachmac87
07-03-2016, 02:25 PM
I don't understand why people here keep thinking Gasol prioritizes winning:lol

As I said last week and 2 years ago in the 100-page "Pau to Spurs" thread, he cares about money and touches.. He already has 2 rings, he has never been willing to sacrifice for winning, he's known as a complainer that pouts when he doesn't shoot enough..

He will go to the team that will give him money and touches..



You seem to know so much...why hasn't he signed?

Blizzardwizard
07-03-2016, 02:25 PM
I don't understand why people here keep thinking Gasol prioritizes winning:lol

As I said last week and 2 years ago in the 100-page "Pau to Spurs" thread, he cares about money and touches.. He already has 2 rings, he has never been willing to sacrifice for winning, he's known as a complainer that pouts when he doesn't shoot enough..

He will go to the team that will give him money and touches..

This. His ass flat out rejected the Spurs two years ago chasing better pay, and it seems like he'd rather land with a mediocre muddling team able to offer a ridiculous deal than the cash-strapped Spurs.

Ditty
07-03-2016, 02:27 PM
It's pretty obvious Pau wants to sign with the Spurs, but Spurs haven't showed the money yet because of KD.

It seems like the Spurs still think they have a good chance of landing KD. They've never been delusional, so something must but be up on that end fwiw.

Spurs will open up the checkbook, but not that much for a player past their prime and declining imo. I still think we will bring majority of the team back, outside of Miller, Martin, Bonner and West.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 02:30 PM
Manu wants a market contract. $10-$15M
Faggots thought he was coming back with a discount :lmao

He ain't worth more than the vets min at this point

Tully365
07-03-2016, 02:33 PM
Pau definitely looks at things differently from the average player, bringing up things like the culture of cities, etc... He left L.A. to play in Chicago at a discounted rate, so I'd say classifying him as a guy mostly interested in chasing money is just inaccurate.

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2016, 02:34 PM
You seem to know so much...why hasn't he signed?

He will sign with the team that gives him the most money and touches..the fact that he hasn't signed with anybody yet doesn't have anything to do with my point..

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 02:35 PM
It's pretty obvious Pau wants to sign with the Spurs, but Spurs haven't showed the money yet because of KD.

It seems like the Spurs still think they have a good chance of landing KD. They've never been delusional, so something must but be up on that end fwiw.

Spurs will open up the checkbook, but not that much for a player past their prime and declining imo. I still think we will bring majority of the team back, outside of Miller, Martin, Bonner and West.

Agree. Gasol would have signed elsewhere by now if he weren't waiting for the Spurs. I'd expect them to move fast once Durant decides.

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2016, 02:37 PM
Pau definitely looks at things differently from the average player, bringing up things like the culture of cities, etc... He left L.A. to play in Chicago at a discounted rate, so I'd say classifying him as a guy mostly interested in chasing money is just inaccurate.

To clarify, when I say he doesn't care about "winning", I mean playing for contenders..as I said in the other thread, he's fine with playing for mid-tier teams that aren't contenders, like the Bulls..

He routinely complained about his touches and role in LA, and they were a bottom-feeder..

The Bulls offered the best combination of touches and money..if he cared about contending and strictly winning, he would have joined the Spurs..

If Portland offers substantially more money than the Spurs, I'll bet that he chooses them..perfect fit for him..

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 02:37 PM
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Blizzardwizard
07-03-2016, 02:37 PM
Be intrigued to see how much Minnesota have offered for Gasol, not entirely sure of their cap situation.

dbestpro
07-03-2016, 02:39 PM
The difference between many of the players getting 8-10 mil and others that will be available for 5 mil is negligible. Spurs need to stay smart.

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 02:40 PM
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TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 02:40 PM
Pau is waiting until after the Durant decision, and the Spurs are waiting for the Durant decision. Not to mention that he hasn't taken Portland's 2yr/40M offer yet... It ain't that hard to connect one with another.

The way him and his brother have talked about the Spurs, it's obvious he wants to join.

Diaw would get sacrificed to make the money work. Worth it.

tholdren
07-03-2016, 02:41 PM
I don't understand why people here keep thinking Gasol prioritizes winning:lol

As I said last week and 2 years ago in the 100-page "Pau to Spurs" thread, he cares about money and touches.. He already has 2 rings, he has never been willing to sacrifice for winning, he's known as a complainer that pouts when he doesn't shoot enough..

He will go to the team that will give him money and touches..

Let's hope you are correct. Cue the It's happening. Pau is a glamor girl just like KD. Come out of the closet already.

K...
07-03-2016, 02:42 PM
so i guess the gameplan is something like, trade green for picks if KD chooses us, then if pau, trade Diaw and filler for space.

coachmac87
07-03-2016, 02:42 PM
He will sign with the team that gives him the most money and touches..the fact that he hasn't signed with anybody yet doesn't have anything to do with my point..

You don't think him waiting on Durant who's had meetings with GSW or SA means anything? Most money or touches?? I don't believe that. Stein just said Portland has 2yr/40mil on the table. Why not sign that immediately?

Hoops Czar
07-03-2016, 02:44 PM
To clarify, when I say he doesn't care about "winning", I mean playing for contenders..as I said in the other thread, he's fine with playing for mid-tier teams that aren't contenders, like the Bulls..

He routinely complained about his touches and role in LA, and they were a bottom-feeder..

The Bulls offered the best combination of touches and money..if he cared about contending and strictly winning, he would have joined the Spurs..

Actually, he turned down a lot more money from the Lakers to join the Bulls so he probably does care a little bit. :lol

RayTdropout
07-03-2016, 02:49 PM
Ramona shel is the mallcops sister and looks like she can fuuk a toilet up

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 02:50 PM
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Vic Petro
07-03-2016, 02:51 PM
Of course there are no absolutes. He'll sign with whoever offers the most money, or whoever has the best chance to win, or whoever offers the most touches, or whoever has the best modern art museum, or whatever. His decisions will be based on some combination of those factors. To use the fact that he hasn't signed yet as some kind of evidence he "definitely" wants to play for the Spurs is a leap. He's waiting for the biggest domino to fall so he can have all the concrete offers in front of him to choose the best fit.

To Harlem's point, if it's the difference between $12m a year in San Antonio or $20m a year in Portland or Minny, I sincerely doubt he is coming to San Antonio.

RayTdropout
07-03-2016, 02:51 PM
Oj mayo is the type of player that would have gotten bank in this free agency. He fuuked up

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 02:51 PM
I don't see Gasol doing a David West and favoring us.

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2016, 02:52 PM
Actually, he turned down a lot more money from the Lakers to join the Bulls so he probably does care a little bit. :lol

Mid-tier team vs. Bottom-feeder

If he cares about contending, he would have joined the Spurs, rather than a mid-tier Bulls team, especially since he "loves the Spurs", as most here seem to believe..

Tully365
07-03-2016, 02:52 PM
To clarify, when I say he doesn't care about "winning", I mean playing for contenders..as I said in the other thread, he's fine with playing for mid-tier teams that aren't contenders, like the Bulls..

He routinely complained about his touches and role in LA, and they were a bottom-feeder..

The Bulls offered the best combination of touches and money..if he cared about contending and strictly winning, he would have joined the Spurs..

If Portland offers substantially more money than the Spurs, I'll bet that he chooses them..perfect fit for him..

I think he's a pretty intelligent guy, and made a reasonable decision going to Chicago. If he thinks (at the time) that Rose has a shot at returning to form and a guy like Butler is going to continue to grow (which he did) and Noah will hold steady (he didn't unfortunately), it's really not a bad choice. It obviously didn't work out, but I can understand the thinking behind how Rose (healthy) + Butler + Noah (pre-decline) + Taj + Pau + one more piece would actually makes some serious noise in the playoffs.

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 02:53 PM
If it's an $8 million a year difference I can see him coming to the Spurs. Maybe.

raybies
07-03-2016, 02:54 PM
At these prices I'm starting to fall Terrence Jones.

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2016, 02:55 PM
I think he's a pretty intelligent guy, and made a reasonable decision going to Chicago. If he thinks (at the time) that Rose has a shot at returning to form and a guy like Butler is going to continue to grow (which he did) and Noah will hold steady (he didn't unfortunately), it's really not a bad choice. It obviously didn't work out, but I can understand the thinking behind how Rose (healthy) + Butler + Noah (pre-decline) + Taj + Pau + one more piece would actually makes some serious noise in the playoffs.

Sure, I could see them being a fringe team at the time(although the turmoil in their organization had already begun IIRC), but wasn't this in 2014 when the Spurs had just won the title? If he cares about winning more than anything and "loved the Spurs", seems odd that he didn't choose them..

Also, in addition to the money, he would be Portland's only big that can create his own shot..he would have a nice role with a high volume of shots..

Vic Petro
07-03-2016, 02:58 PM
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Tully365
07-03-2016, 03:04 PM
Sure, I could see them being a fringe team at the time(although the turmoil in their organization had already begun IIRC), but wasn't this in 2014 when the Spurs had just won the title? If he cares about winning more than anything and "loved the Spurs", seems odd that he didn't choose them..

Also, in addition to the money, he would be Portland's only big that can create his own shot..he would have a nice role with a high volume of shots..

Yeah-- I think the whole "loves the Spurs" thing is overplayed around here... I'm sure he'd also say that he "loves Phil Jackson/his brother Marc/the cosmopolitan culture of NYC/the philanthropy of Mark Cuban/ etc., etc..." He's a pretty diplomatic guy. He has rarely said a negative word publicly about Kobe, but I'm sure he has a few private thoughts on the topic.

raybies
07-03-2016, 03:05 PM
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GSH
07-03-2016, 03:07 PM
Fuck that, I rather take my chances with the international players and D Leaguers


I've been saying it since the night free agency opened. I don't think there will be much of a choice. I'm sure the Spurs would make room for Durant, if he wanted to come. And I think they would rather have Gasol, if he agreed to play for less than he will get offered elsewhere. But I don't think either of those things will happen. And I think it's pretty clear that if neither one of those does happen, they are planning on harvesting as much as they can from their stash players, D-League, and/or finding a Euro player like Bourousis to make the break to the NBA.

They may find a player, or even two, that another team has to move to clear cap space. Portland is sitting on Crabbe and Harkless, and I don't think they will be able to keep both. Utah had three that they considered expendable, but they already traded Burke for a 2021 second-round pick. None of those kinds of players are going to excite Spurs fans like Durant, but there will be some solid role-players sacrificed by other teams. But more and more I think that the balance of the roster will come from among the Euros and D-Leaguers we already know about.

noles1983
07-03-2016, 03:07 PM
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I'm done with the nba if that happens.

Vic Petro
07-03-2016, 03:07 PM
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I don't believe this guy is hearing anything. No leaks from Durants camp except to Alex Kennedy? Gtfoh

Ron Swanson
07-03-2016, 03:07 PM
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If you thought last year's media love fest with GS was bad, just wait until this happens.

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 03:09 PM
No reason to watch the league if Durant goes to the Warriors. Completely his right, but I might check out for a few years.

raybies
07-03-2016, 03:11 PM
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UZER
07-03-2016, 03:11 PM
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And last year LMA was going to PHX, except that he never was.

Mugen
07-03-2016, 03:12 PM
:lol If Durant joins Golden State then the Spurs should just punt this offseason and focus on getting Westbrook or some other top FA next summer.

Durant joining the Dubs would basically be a death knell to his legacy. I don't think he'd do it but this is the same guy who wanted to be known as The Servant crofl

Ron Swanson
07-03-2016, 03:13 PM
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Let's see how good Barnes is without Curry and Klay opening up the offense for him.

HankChinaski
07-03-2016, 03:14 PM
I don't care for tweets about "strongly considering" or " blown away" unless it is confirming a verbal agreement with numbers I don't bother with Tweets about allegedly

Mr. Body
07-03-2016, 03:14 PM
:lol If Durant joins Golden State then the Spurs should just punt this offseason and focus on getting Westbrook or some other top FA next summer.

Durant joining the Dubs would basically be a death knell to his legacy. I don't think he'd do it but this is the same guy who wanted to be known as The Servant crofl

Yeah, he'd basically be seen as a total bitch.

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2016, 03:14 PM
Credible sources like Stein and Lowe(he was one of the first to discuss Aldridge to Spurs well before the off-season) have said Durant to the Warriors has a good chance of occurring, not just a rumor..

Really hoping he stays in OKC or goes to the East, because Durant to GS would be horrifying(coming from somebody that hates Dominos)..

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 03:14 PM
Let's see how good Barnes is without Curry and Klay opening up the offense for him.

Everyone but Dallas knows the answer to that. :lol

:lol Max money to a role player

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2016, 03:15 PM
Let's see how good Barnes is without Curry and Klay opening up the offense for him.

He wasn't good, even with Steph and Klay :lol

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 03:16 PM
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Robz4000
07-03-2016, 03:16 PM
:lol if Durant chooses the Dubs it'll close the door on him ever being considered a Top 25 player...

palangi
07-03-2016, 03:18 PM
I don't think Durrant goes to the Warriors. He didn't look to happy with them during and after their series. Especially with Draymond.

I think your seeing the national media push agendas. California and Boston is where they want him. Saying those two areas gives them more views.

loveforthegame
07-03-2016, 03:20 PM
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$24 million, 3rd year player option.

AFBlue
07-03-2016, 03:21 PM
So when is the Spurs/Pau announcement?

Tully365
07-03-2016, 03:21 PM
To be honest, if I was Durant I'd go to Golden State... they have young players locked up, Curry will definitely not leave, etc. They'd have a shot at a legendary run of championships... If Golden State loses to LeBron James and his inferior team but then turns around with Durant to win 3 or 4 straight, that certainly wouldn't hurt Durant's "legacy."

raybies
07-03-2016, 03:22 PM
It's okc and golden state imo I just hope if we're not in, he lets us know soon so we can move on, although, We may elect to take on salary and players from teams trying to get cap room. That would be smart. Let everyone spend their money on name brands while we go to thrift store.

Mugen
07-03-2016, 03:22 PM
To be honest, if I was Durant I'd go to Golden State... they have young players locked up, Curry will definitely not leave, etc. They'd have a shot at a legendary run of championships... If Golden State loses to LeBron James and his inferior team but then turns around with Durant to win 3 or 4 straight, that certainly wouldn't hurt Durant's "legacy."

He'd be joining the best regular season of all time and the unanimous MVP of last year? Joining them wouldn't hurt his legacy just because the DUbs choked away a trophy? :lol

r0drig0lac
07-03-2016, 03:23 PM
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this is getting interesting

Kawhitstorm
07-03-2016, 03:24 PM
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$24 million, 3rd year player option.

Is anybody going to sign for the MLE/BAE unless they're from Europe or D-League?:lol

AFBlue
07-03-2016, 03:24 PM
To be honest, if I was Durant I'd go to Golden State... they have young players locked up, Curry will definitely not leave, etc. They'd have a shot at a legendary run of championships... If Golden State loses to LeBron James and his inferior team but then turns around with Durant to win 3 or 4 straight, that certainly wouldn't hurt Durant's "legacy."

Always my thought too...if he left OKC the Warriors had to be heavy favorites due to their combination of young superstar talent and unselfish fun playing style. Was always a longshot for the Spurs.

ducks
07-03-2016, 03:25 PM
Poison pill
For Johnson, the contract represents one of the most rapid financial ascensions in recent league history: From an undrafted NBA Development League guard in 2015, to participating in only 68 games over parts of the past two seasons, to a staggering poison-pill contract that guarantees seasons of $18.8 million and $19.6 million in the final two years of the deal.

TD 21
07-03-2016, 03:25 PM
I don't understand why people here keep thinking Gasol prioritizes winning:lol

As I said last week and 2 years ago in the 100-page "Pau to Spurs" thread, he cares about money and touches.. He already has 2 rings, he has never been willing to sacrifice for winning, he's known as a complainer that pouts when he doesn't shoot enough..

He will go to the team that will give him money and touches..

Two years ago, he was out to prove he could still be a featured player after being questioned for his declining play with the Lakers (which was clearly injury/unhappiness related).

This was also at a time when it was thought the Bulls might have a one year window as favorites in the East, before the Cavs core gelled and they surrounded them with the requisite role players.

Then there was the fit with Duncan, which would have been awkward. Neither could defend power forwards and the post touches would have been split.

I'm not saying it's a certainty, but I do get the sense that this time is different. If he really wanted the money/touches, why wouldn't he have already signed with the Trail Blazers or Timbewolves? It's not as if the Spurs can come close to $20M.

random21
07-03-2016, 03:25 PM
Hope Durant doesn't go to GSW...But, if he chooses to go with them and wins championships, whats the difference with him vs Lebron doing it? Teaming up with some of the best players in the NBA to win titles....

DesignatedT
07-03-2016, 03:25 PM
I don't necessarily think the Spurs have a shot at KD but kinda surprised they haven't moved on if they really thought they didn't have a shot. The clippers knew they had no chance and moved forward with their free agency without waiting for his official decision. Spurs should be able to see the writing on the wall.

Kikoluna
07-03-2016, 03:28 PM
All these people saying spurs don't have a shot lol. They do have a shot. They met with him. So enough with that nonsense

AlexJones
07-03-2016, 03:28 PM
I'd like to see Dirk join Durant to GS, but both are probably staying put

Kawhitstorm
07-03-2016, 03:28 PM
:lol If Durant joins Golden State then the Spurs should just punt this offseason and focus on getting Westbrook or some other top FA next summer. l

I wonder where WestBrook would go next summer if Dominos bolts? (Maybe Blake goes back to his hometown & WB gets his super max)

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2016, 03:28 PM
Two years ago, he was out to prove he could still be a featured player after being questioned for his declining play with the Lakers (which was clearly injury/unhappiness related).

This was also at a time when it was thought the Bulls might have a one year window as favorites in the East, before the Cavs core gelled and they surrounded them with the requisite role players.

Then there was the fit with Duncan, which would have been awkward. Neither could defend power forwards and the post touches would have been split.

I'm not saying it's a certainty, but I do get the sense that this time is different. If he really wanted the money/touches, why wouldn't he have already signed with the Trail Blazers or Timbewolves? It's not as if the Spurs can come close to $20M.

I think there's a decent chance that he joins the Spurs and a better chance than the last time..I'm just objecting to the thought that he's all about winning and contending, which many seem to believe
.

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2016, 03:29 PM
Hope Durant doesn't go to GSW...But, if he chooses to go with them and wins championships, whats the difference with him vs Lebron doing it? Teaming up with some of the best players in the NBA to win titles....

The media hated Lebron, while they love both Durant and the Warriors:lol

coachmac87
07-03-2016, 03:30 PM
I think there's a decent chance that he joins the Spurs and a better chance than the last time..I'm just objecting to the thought that he's all about winning and contending, which many seem to believe
.

Back pedaling

Duncan2177
07-03-2016, 03:31 PM
I don't necessarily think the Spurs have a shot at KD but kinda surprised they haven't moved on if they really thought they didn't have a shot. The clippers knew they had no chance and moved forward with their free agency without waiting for his official decision. Spurs should be able to see the writing on the wall.

Maybe the reason the Spurs haven't moved on is because Durant is seriously considering the Spurs. I'm not buying into what the media is saying it's just wishful thinking on their part.

SpurPadre
07-03-2016, 03:31 PM
All these people saying spurs don't have a shot lol. They do have a shot. They met with him. So enough with that nonsense

i have some land I'd like to sell you...

LakerHater
07-03-2016, 03:32 PM
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ducks
07-03-2016, 03:35 PM
Guess what he talked to pop in person west was to lazy to go see durrant

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2016, 03:36 PM
Back pedaling

:lol no, I never said there was "no chance"

Gasol isn't nearly good enough to say there isn't a chance, he's just an above average player without a brand or imagine to worry about..I believe he will sign with the team that offers the best combination of touches and money..

As we have discussed the past few months, though, I feel comfortable saying there's "no chance" of Durant joining the Spurs..

coachmac87
07-03-2016, 03:42 PM
:lol no, I never said there was "no chance"

Gasol isn't nearly good enough to say there isn't a chance, he's just an above average player without a brand or imagine to worry about..I believe he will sign with the team that offers the best combination of touches and money..

As we have discussed the past few months, though, I feel comfortable saying there's "no chance" of Durant joining the Spurs..



Well you said you don't think he prioritized winning and made fun of people on the board thinking so. Do you think the Spurs are really going to pay him 20M? If not and you think there's a "chance" of him signing in SA...

I'm confused on what fucking point you're trying to make

UZER
07-03-2016, 03:43 PM
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Someone just found out they talked and now the media is running with it because it's a team they want him to go to. :lol

I'll believe it when I see it.

TD 21
07-03-2016, 03:44 PM
I think there's a decent chance that he joins the Spurs and a better chance than the last time..I'm just objecting to the thought that he's all about winning and contending, which many seem to believe
.

If you're maintaining that he'll still be all about the money/touches, then how can you also say that "there's a decent chance that he joins the Spurs"? They can't offer the most of either.

I'm sure he realizes that, so if he has interest in them, then it's logical to think it's not about that this time.

Similar to West, I think he's also sick of all of the drama of his previous situation and wants to play in an environment where he knows he won't have to deal with the typical petty shit that goes on with most teams.

SD126
07-03-2016, 03:45 PM
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Alex Kennedy is more unreliable than Chris Broussard and Ramona Shelburne. All I need to know.

AFBlue
07-03-2016, 03:47 PM
Alex Kennedy is more unreliable than Chris Broussard and Ramona Shelburne. All I need to know.

Lol. If it ain't Woj it ain't shit

objective
07-03-2016, 03:50 PM
A note about Plumlee and the Spurs:

If all the Spurs have is the MLE, I don't see how he's possible. The MLE starts at just $2 million a year more than his QO. Milwaukee has just about burned through their relevant cap room. I don't see them not matching an MLE bid, it'd be reasonable and not too far from where they're already paying him.

SD126
07-03-2016, 03:51 PM
Lol. If it ain't Woj it ain't shit

I'd actually prefer Lowe over Woj, who trashed our '07 title run for no reason.

coachmac87
07-03-2016, 03:53 PM
If you're maintaining that he'll still be all about the money/touches, then how can you also say that "there's a decent chance that he joins the Spurs"? They can't offer the most of either.

I'm sure he realizes that, so if he has interest in them, then it's logical to think it's not about that this time.

Similar to West, I think he's also sick of all of the drama of his previous situation and wants to play in an environment where he knows he won't have to deal with the typical petty shit that goes on with most teams.



Exactly. I dunno what point Harlem is trying to make..

cd98
07-03-2016, 04:03 PM
I’m not saying he’s going to the Spurs, but they have just as much to offer as the Warriors. They have a team where Durant can come in and immediately get the most shots. Aldridge is a complementary player and Kawhi is highly efficient and only needs 8-10 shots to be effective (plus he generates a lot of points on getting turnovers or offensive rebounds). Plus, Kawhi will be there to guard the best players, so Durant won’t be forced to play in many tough defensive assignments. He’ll mostly be able to guard the player at his position. The Spurs have the coach recognized universally as the best in the game. They have a team organization that is recognized as smart and ahead of the game in assembling a roster, so he can be confident they will field winning teams. And the Spurs can pay him the most (after taxes and cheaper cost of living). Don’t forget he’s a hop, skip, and a jump from Austin, where he played college ball and a place he chose over countless other top schools.

Ditty
07-03-2016, 04:05 PM
:lol Anyone that believes Alex Kennedy

r0drig0lac
07-03-2016, 04:07 PM
I’m not saying he’s going to the Spurs, but they have just as much to offer as the Warriors. They have a team where Durant can come in and immediately get the most shots. Aldridge is a complementary player and Kawhi is highly efficient and only needs 8-10 shots to be effective (plus he generates a lot of points on getting turnovers or offensive rebounds). Plus, Kawhi will be there to guard the best players, so Durant won’t be forced to play in many tough defensive assignments. He’ll mostly be able to guard the player at his position. The Spurs have the coach recognized universally as the best in the game. They have a team organization that is recognized as smart and ahead of the game in assembling a roster, so he can be confident they will field winning teams. And the Spurs can pay him the most (after taxes and cheaper cost of living). Don’t forget he’s a hop, skip, and a jump from Austin, where he played college ball and a place he chose over countless other top schools.


no

Mal
07-03-2016, 04:07 PM
It will great monday for when I wake up and see Woj`s twitter saying Durant has chosen Spurs

benefactor
07-03-2016, 04:12 PM
:lol Anyone that believes Alex Kennedy

cd98
07-03-2016, 04:13 PM
no

Durant, Kawhi, and LMA is better than Curry, Thompson, and Green. After taxes, Spurs can pay more (plus cost of living). Durant would get less shots in a GSW offense that has to feed 4 shooters. And would KD be rolling his eyes as Curry jacks up those errant long threes like he did in the finals when the games were on the line and Lebron was getting layups?

RayTdropout
07-03-2016, 04:15 PM
Let's be honest Lamarcus is the only big fish ever caught on the free-agent market by the the Spurs. Spurs fans should be happy that we even got a meeting unlike the Lakers and knicks pretty good for a small-market team. Trust me he will not sign here.

Joseph Kony
07-03-2016, 04:15 PM
Odd how there has been no word or buzz regarding Spurs/Durant yet they apparently havent been ruled out and no FA moves have been done by SA....

Duncan2177
07-03-2016, 04:17 PM
Odd how there has been no word or buzz regarding Spurs/Durant yet they apparently havent been ruled out and no FA moves have been done by SA....

Exactly

Kindergarten Cop
07-03-2016, 04:17 PM
Durant, Kawhi, and LMA is better than Curry, Thompson, and Green.

While I totally agree with this, your premise is flawed. The true comparison is Curry, Thompson, Green, and Durant >>> Kawhi, LA, and Durant.

r0drig0lac
07-03-2016, 04:20 PM
While I totally agree with this, your premise is flawed. The true comparison is Curry, Thompson, Green, and Durant >>> Kawhi, LA, and Durant.

they can keep Livingston and Iggy, right?

AFBlue
07-03-2016, 04:26 PM
Odd how there has been no word or buzz regarding Spurs/Durant yet they apparently havent been ruled out and no FA moves have been done by SA....

It's happening! :lol

siraulo23
07-03-2016, 04:30 PM
Odd how there has been no word or buzz regarding Spurs/Durant yet they apparently havent been ruled out and no FA moves have been done by SA....

Maybe the spurs have moved on, but not interested in signing FAs this year

siraulo23
07-03-2016, 04:32 PM
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ernest787
07-03-2016, 04:33 PM
yeah it's a weird situation. I don't think it's likely that Durant comes here, but it's also interesting that the Spurs have not made any moves. I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that the players the Spurs are looking at are not going to sign before Durant officially comes off the board.

Once he announces he's staying in OKC, I imagine we will hear the Spurs making a move or 2 pretty quickly.

ducks
07-03-2016, 04:33 PM
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Posted several times Already
West was to lazy to go their in person
Pop was not

Robz4000
07-03-2016, 04:33 PM
Guys, did you hear KD had a phone convo with Jerry West? Jerry West!!

siraulo23
07-03-2016, 04:35 PM
Guys, did you hear KD had a phone convo with Jerry West? Jerry West!!


:lol

damn my bad

cd98
07-03-2016, 04:37 PM
While I totally agree with this, your premise is flawed. The true comparison is Curry, Thompson, Green, and Durant >>> Kawhi, LA, and Durant.

Not so sure. Who gets the last shot in that GSW lineup? That matters to Durant. And he'll have to be happy taking less shots than he did in OKC, which I also thinks matters to him. And that might make him less likely to be an MVP candidate, which I also think matters to Durant. Though I do agree that anywhere he goes shifts the overall balance of power, be that in the West (he can eliminate OKC from top 3 in West by moving and shift power to GSW or SA) or in the East (if he goes to Boston, he can make them a contender over Raptors and put them in a spot to beat Lebron...Celtics have the tools, but they need a prime time scorer).

Robz4000
07-03-2016, 04:38 PM
:lol

damn my bad

To be fair, it was more a shot at the media.

:lol thinking a phone call with Jerry West is a huge gamechanger

cd98
07-03-2016, 04:38 PM
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I bet there are lots of calls to Durant from the key GMs. Few are reported.

Duncan2177
07-03-2016, 04:39 PM
To be fair, it was more a shot at the media.

:lol thinking a phone call with Jerry West is a huge gamechanger

:lol

NASpurs
07-03-2016, 04:42 PM
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SAGirl
07-03-2016, 04:43 PM
So glad the Spurs aren't giving out these horrendous contracts to role players tbh.
Just have to wait until next season when we see a similar or higher offer for Simmons TBH.

siraulo23
07-03-2016, 04:43 PM
Durant meeting with okc just ended

SAGirl
07-03-2016, 04:44 PM
The same rules that apply to Boban apply to Tyler Johnson, right? Meaning, TJ was only eligible to make $5.6 million this upcoming season, but the Nets just backloaded the shit out of the contract to where he's making $15+ million the last 2 years.

Hopefully no one does that with Boban or we'll be shit out of luck.
I think so, same situation.. but I am not a capologist.

Hoops Czar
07-03-2016, 04:50 PM
The same rules that apply to Boban apply to Tyler Johnson, right? Meaning, TJ was only eligible to make $5.6 million this upcoming season, but the Nets just backloaded the shit out of the contract to where he's making $15+ million the last 2 years.

Hopefully no one does that with Boban or we'll be shit out of luck.

Who cares.

r0drig0lac
07-03-2016, 04:59 PM
inb4 WOJBOMB....

Nathan89
07-03-2016, 05:00 PM
Who cares.

Exactly. I hope somebody does that so the Spurs don't waste money on him. Dude is a 5th big at best.

marinoman
07-03-2016, 05:00 PM
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BillMc
07-03-2016, 05:01 PM
inb4 WOJBOMB....

What WOJBOMB would that be? You've got insider info? :toast

AFBlue
07-03-2016, 05:03 PM
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Deja vu x4?

:lmao

Nathan89
07-03-2016, 05:04 PM
Odd how there has been no word or buzz regarding Spurs/Durant yet they apparently havent been ruled out and no FA moves have been done by SA....

It's not odd. This isn't the first time spurs seemingly sat on the sidelines in free agency. We've been bringing back basically the same team for years.

Joseph Kony
07-03-2016, 05:05 PM
It's not odd. This isn't the first time spurs seemingly sat on the sidelines in free agency. We've been bringing back basically the same team for years.

hey man, let me look for something where there isn't anything:lol