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Chinook
07-04-2016, 06:37 PM
you were wrong about saying that trading tp, green, and bonner for dragic, whiteside, and mcroberts this past season would've been abysmal :lol

That is a shitty trade. I don't want Dragic, and Whiteside would have just walked. I wanted McRoberts before the Heat signed him, and getting him for free is completely different than trading assets for him. I've never seen someone so consistently obtuse about why people hated his trade proposal.

Mr. Body
07-04-2016, 06:38 PM
I think he'll get away with lot more.

The refs in the regular season did their best to make sure the Warriors were near invincible, they let so much to from Golden State that it couldn't have been coincidence. Now with Durant on board ZaZa and Draymond have a license to kill.

We'll see. The worm might have turned on the Warriors. After Lacob's statements, Green finally ball-kicking one too many times, and LeBron's ascension, and then Lil Kevie's bitch-ass move, they're no longer America's darlings.

NASpurs
07-04-2016, 06:39 PM
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Chinook
07-04-2016, 06:43 PM
For fucking shit if Golden State gets Dedmon for the min.

HarlemHeat37
07-04-2016, 06:43 PM
Warriors expressed interest in Dedmon, but haven't heard anything about the Spurs..I hope they inquired, at least..

They could potentially replace Ezeli for mich cheaper..

myhc
07-04-2016, 06:44 PM
We'll see. The worm might have turned on the Warriors. After Lacob's statements, Green finally ball-kicking one too many times, and LeBron's ascension, and then Lil Kevie's bitch-ass move, they're no longer America's darlings.

Agreed. At first I thought the signing of this dirty scumbag would make them even worse. But the league finally decided to crack down on Draymond during the finals so I think that team will be under more scrutiny. That's one thing I'll be interested in following. How many Draymond/Zaza dirty plays get called out by the refs.

HarlemHeat37
07-04-2016, 06:45 PM
Would be very annoyed if the Spurs could have gotten Dedmon for the minimum, tbh..he was my #1 choice heading into the off-season..

objective
07-04-2016, 06:46 PM
Spurs can't pay more than GS. Why bother with the Spurs when he can get a free ring if he has to play for the minimum?

Robz4000
07-04-2016, 06:47 PM
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Fuck PATFO if they haven't looked into him.

gambit1990
07-04-2016, 06:47 PM
Abysmal for the Heat. No way they would have done that deal.
exactly! i was never arguing the plausibility.

but chinook thinks it would've been awful for us:

That is a shitty trade. I don't want Dragic, and Whiteside would have just walked. I wanted McRoberts before the Heat signed him, and getting him for free is completely different than trading assets for him. I've never seen someone so consistently obtuse about why people hated his trade proposal.
:lol

HarlemHeat37
07-04-2016, 06:48 PM
Spurs can't pay more than GS. Why bother with the Spurs when he can get a free ring if he has to play for the minimum?

True..he could also put up Ezeli numbers with GS's supporting cast, too..

Would be an impressive front office move for them IMO..shouldn't be surprised, at this point, their FO is probably the best in the L..

Hoops Czar
07-04-2016, 06:49 PM
True..he could also put up Ezeli numbers with GS's supporting cast, too..

Would be an impressive front office move for them IMO..

ZaZa is a terrible rim protector.

Chinook
07-04-2016, 06:53 PM
Spurs can't pay more than GS. Why bother with the Spurs when he can get a free ring if he has to play for the minimum?

Of course they can pay more. If the Diaw rumors are true, they have a out $3 Million, and if Tim is stretched, they have $7 Million.

picnroll
07-04-2016, 06:54 PM
Zappa and Raymond will form the dirtiest combo in the NBA next season

HarlemHeat37
07-04-2016, 06:55 PM
ZaZa is a terrible rim protector.

Referring to Dedmon..his game is the same as Ezeli's..

ace3g
07-04-2016, 06:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000835070470/f612f678f965d471b49346a2e3a729da_bigger.jpeg Chris Haynes Verified account ‏@ChrisBHaynes (https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes)

Forward Lance Thomas has reached a multi-year agreement to re-sign with Knicks, league source tells @clevelanddotcom (https://twitter.com/clevelanddotcom).

Sean Cagney
07-04-2016, 06:56 PM
He was really solid his last year in Milwaukee, and then pretty decent for Dallas last year too. He's not some amazing player by any means, but he's certainly a better big than I expected them to be able to land.

Yep, they are going to start getting steals around the big 4 now as folks are ring chasing. The Heat got that too, most said but they won't have a bench! Then they suddenly got some vets on the team and the rest is history.

ducks
07-04-2016, 06:57 PM
Lance Thomas resigns with knicks

NASpurs
07-04-2016, 06:57 PM
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timtonymanu
07-04-2016, 06:57 PM
Fuck PATFO if they haven't looked into him.

Seems very typical for them to miss out on him

r0drig0lac
07-04-2016, 06:57 PM
Zappa and Raymond will form the dirtiest combo in the NBA next season

Spurs9
07-04-2016, 06:57 PM
Philly looking to trade Okafor or Noel.

Hoops Czar
07-04-2016, 06:58 PM
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Dodged a bullet there.

HarlemHeat37
07-04-2016, 06:58 PM
Of course they can pay more. If the Diaw rumors are true, they have a out $3 Million, and if Tim is stretched, they have $7 Million.

Do you think Boban is gone, tbh?

objective
07-04-2016, 07:00 PM
Of course they can pay more. If the Diaw rumors are true, they have a out $3 Million, and if Tim is stretched, they have $7 Million.

I'm not so sure about the numbers. We don't know what Pau's starting number is, or even the exact total, only that it's $30+. We still don't know about Bertans and his deal. Don't know about Manu and how much he is holding them up for. Don't know if they're using first round holds for LJC or Milutinov. Hell, one of them could be sent out with Boris.

So, maybe the Spurs can do more, but enough to turn down the Warriors?

LakerHater
07-04-2016, 07:01 PM
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Spurs9
07-04-2016, 07:01 PM
Do you think Boban is gone, tbh?

I think some team will try to overpay, granted he didnt get much minutes but he was effecient and effected the game when he was in. Plenty of teamswhowould probably throw 10 mil at him. I mean tyler johnson got a 50mil contract...

Chinook
07-04-2016, 07:02 PM
Do you think Boban is gone, tbh?

If Dedmon is coming, yes. But would be possible to do Dedmon and Tim still.

Mr. Body
07-04-2016, 07:03 PM
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First thing that twat's said that's remotely correct.

NASpurs
07-04-2016, 07:06 PM
You would had thought that Borrego would had been pushing the Spurs to get Dedmon.

LakerHater
07-04-2016, 07:09 PM
Think Durant pulls a DeAndre Jordan?

LakerHater
07-04-2016, 07:10 PM
First thing that twat's said that's remotely correct.
Was easy for him, he's had it in for Durant!

gambit1990
07-04-2016, 07:13 PM
That is a shitty trade. I don't want Dragic, and Whiteside would have just walked. I wanted McRoberts before the Heat signed him, and getting him for free is completely different than trading assets for him.

Would love for Josh McRoberts to somehow get to the Spurs.
well you wouldn't get mcroberts for free this summer because he's still signed with the heat.

and out of all the people who know what a basketball is, you would be in the small minority who would want a 34 year old parker over a 30 year old dragic.

dbestpro
07-04-2016, 07:14 PM
Why is it that the off season seems to be more interesting than most of the actual games?

NASpurs
07-04-2016, 07:16 PM
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LakerHater
07-04-2016, 07:19 PM
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Spurs9
07-04-2016, 07:24 PM
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Good deal tbh

tbdog
07-04-2016, 07:25 PM
Think Durant pulls a DeAndre Jordan?

It would be a huge troll move where Barnes, bogut, and Ezile are all gone. lol.

Kawhitstorm
07-04-2016, 07:26 PM
I believe Hibbert is their backup plan if they lose out on Zaza, in any case not signing Hibbert isn't a big deal considering he was being outplayed by D-League centers like Willie Reed.:lol

Hibbert signed w/ Charlotte:

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SD126
07-04-2016, 07:27 PM
It would be a huge troll move where Barnes, bogut, and Ezile are all gone. lol.

Would be the greatest day ever if he did pull this off.

DPG21920
07-04-2016, 07:28 PM
For fucking shit if Golden State gets Dedmon for the min.

Got damn that FO is on point! Glad he's seemingly spuring them. Thank GOD

Kawhitstorm
07-04-2016, 07:30 PM
Referring to Dedmon..his game is the same as Ezeli's..

Dude is a fouling machine ala Ian which will get him benched real quickly on a team coached by Pop. But you are right in that he has terrible hands like Ezeli.:lol

Willie Reed seems to me like a better fit since he can play along side Pau & guard mobile 4s. (He also doesn't have butterfingers::lol)

LakerHater
07-04-2016, 07:32 PM
Y didn't spurs jump on that Lance Thomas deal, was a steal deal!

look_at_g_shred
07-04-2016, 07:33 PM
Damn would love to get Brandon Jennings.

Mr. Body
07-04-2016, 07:33 PM
Think Durant pulls a DeAndre Jordan?

He's too much of a weenie.

NASpurs
07-04-2016, 07:34 PM
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SD126
07-04-2016, 07:34 PM
Damn would love to get Brandon Jennings.

Signed with the Knicks

Kawhitstorm
07-04-2016, 07:44 PM
Y didn't spurs jump on that Lance Thomas deal, was a steal deal!

B/c they didn't have the cap space & Lance gave the Knicks a "hometown discount" ala Danny.

NASpurs
07-04-2016, 09:04 PM
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ace3g
07-04-2016, 09:14 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/719657781951799298/lSHlxDNT_bigger.jpg Marc J. Spears Verified account ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN (https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN)

Ex-NBA forward Anthony Randolph, a 2016 all-Euroleague 2nd team, selection, is getting interest as a free agent by NBA teams, a source said.

Nathan89
07-04-2016, 09:16 PM
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Recreating the Warriors tbh.

apalisoc_9
07-04-2016, 09:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/719657781951799298/lSHlxDNT_bigger.jpg Marc J. Spears Verified account ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN (https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN)

Ex-NBA forward Anthony Randolph, a 2016 all-Euroleague 2nd team, selection, is getting interest as a free agent by NBA teams, a source said.

Who was that nigga that was so high on Randolph? Mavs>Spurs? Its been years tbh

ElNono
07-04-2016, 09:20 PM
Who was that nigga that was so high on Randolph? Mavs>Spurs? Its been years tbh

mono, iirc

ace3g
07-04-2016, 09:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr5Ph3en2-I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWohlVD0RIE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppYF7oYScM

MI21
07-04-2016, 09:39 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/719657781951799298/lSHlxDNT_bigger.jpg Marc J. Spears Verified account ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN (https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN)

Ex-NBA forward Anthony Randolph, a 2016 all-Euroleague 2nd team, selection, is getting interest as a free agent by NBA teams, a source said.

Damn, that guy is still around? I can't believe he didn't just fade away, I'm very surprised he has become a good player in Europe :lol

Ron Swanson
07-04-2016, 09:48 PM
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Cuban: We have 40% of the Dubs starting lineup from last year and Steph's brother. That has to be worth an extra 25 wins.

SPURt
07-04-2016, 09:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/719657781951799298/lSHlxDNT_bigger.jpg Marc J. Spears Verified account ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN (https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN)

Ex-NBA forward Anthony Randolph, a 2016 all-Euroleague 2nd team, selection, is getting interest as a free agent by NBA teams, a source said.
It's crazy he's only 26

tholdren
07-04-2016, 10:04 PM
It's crazy he's only 26
hes 46.

ace3g
07-04-2016, 10:05 PM
Randolph might be a cheaper version of Terrence Jones = versatile mobile forward.

djohn14
07-04-2016, 10:07 PM
I'm hearing A LOT of talk on Wade to the Cavs. No great sources yet, so I may be getting fucked over but in the next 12 or so hours I think we may be hearing something on him.

Mr. Body
07-04-2016, 10:09 PM
I'm hearing A LOT of talk on Wade to the Cavs. No great sources yet, so I may be getting fucked over but in the next 12 or so hours I think we may be hearing something on him.

With what money?

djohn14
07-04-2016, 10:12 PM
With what money?

If Wade wants another ring he knows it won't be in Miami. Could be a sign and trade, but I doubt Riley would facilitate that. I'm skeptical too man, but theres a lot of smoke out there.

Ice009
07-04-2016, 10:14 PM
I'm hearing A LOT of talk on Wade to the Cavs. No great sources yet, so I may be getting fucked over but in the next 12 or so hours I think we may be hearing something on him.

LeBron has probably gotten on the phone to him straight away after the Beta announced he's going to the Warriors.

GSH
07-04-2016, 10:19 PM
Y didn't spurs jump on that Lance Thomas deal, was a steal deal!


Spurs can't jump on shit. They can't jump on the deal they've already made with Pau, until they find someone to take Boris' salary. So far this is going pretty much the way I thought - there are going to be some decent mid-level guys that are going to be available for much more reasonable salaries, for the teams who have cap space to snap them up. I know the Spurs needed a C, and that Pau is still pretty good. But they also have to put a whole team together. I STILL would rather have seen them sign Pachulia and maybe Bourousis, and to have kept some powder dry for guys like Dedmon. The fact that they got Bertans for the min is great, but they are still going to have to fill some roster spots for cheap.

I'm still worried that getting rid of Boris is going to cost more than just him, and that would be a damned shame.

djohn14
07-04-2016, 10:19 PM
Theres a lot of speculation ranging from Wades tweet about how important relationships are after Durants decision, to a tweet from a luxery jet wishing Dan Gilbert, LeBron, and D-Wade a Happy 4th, and I think like an ex Cleveland radio host saying that he's hearing Dan Gilbert is meeting with Wade and or his agent tonight or in the morning. Again guys, I'm probably gettinng duped but theres a lot of smoke. Just something to keep your eyes on.

Mr. Body
07-04-2016, 10:20 PM
If Wade wants another ring he knows it won't be in Miami. Could be a sign and trade, but I doubt Riley would facilitate that. I'm skeptical too man, but theres a lot of smoke out there.

I think what you've seen are a lot of joke posts.

noles1983
07-04-2016, 10:20 PM
so warriors can get the money for durant, cavs can get the money for wade magically? yet we are stuck with fucking fathead and parker. i want to throw up.

Vic Petro
07-04-2016, 10:22 PM
Agree a lot of smoke on Wade to Cleveland right now.

DPG21920
07-04-2016, 10:23 PM
Spurs can't jump on shit. They can't jump on the deal they've already made with Pau, until they find someone to take Boris' salary. So far this is going pretty much the way I thought - there are going to be some decent mid-level guys that are going to be available for much more reasonable salaries, for the teams who have cap space to snap them up. I know the Spurs needed a C, and that Pau is still pretty good. But they also have to put a whole team together. I STILL would rather have seen them sign Pachulia and maybe Bourousis, and to have kept some powder dry for guys like Dedmon. The fact that they got Bertans for the min is great, but they are still going to have to fill some roster spots for cheap.

I'm still worried that getting rid of Boris is going to cost more than just him, and that would be a damned shame.

Hashtagtrusttheprocess

We know the SL is still pretty damn boss and I'm very excited to see Pau with SA. I've always loved his game, despite his flaws and I am legit exctited to see him in a SA jersey. Pau/LMA is a beast 4/5 in terms of skill - it's crazy. They have some limitations but with how LMA showed he was a much better defender than advertised, I'm excited.

TP/DG/Kawhi/LMA/Pau

Bench needs work, but we have to see how this shakes out.

Mills/Kyle/Simmons at least we have some info on them. Bertans seems pretty intriguing. Murray I'm not counting on but having youth is exciting.

If SA can bring back Manu and land a big like Dedmon or whomever, could be a good bench (even if scary/unproven which is what youth/change brings).

Ice009
07-04-2016, 10:23 PM
Agree a lot of smoke on Wade to Cleveland right now.

Who says he doesn't go there for a huge discount though? He might go there for a discount. That would probably be the only place he does that, but yeah, he might do something crazy like that.

GSH
07-04-2016, 10:23 PM
Think Durant pulls a DeAndre Jordan?


No, but that would be incredibly cold-blooded. The ripples from that would just cause a shitstorm in the league. They'd implement new rules over it, IMO.

Mouth is Bleeding
07-04-2016, 10:23 PM
Not sure he'll even make CLE better.

Lebron is best with his shooters so when JR caught fire they were almost unstoppable.

djohn14
07-04-2016, 10:24 PM
I think what you've seen are a lot of joke posts.

I respect your opinion. We will see

HarlemHeat37
07-04-2016, 10:24 PM
Theres a lot of speculation ranging from Wades tweet about how important relationships are after Durants decision, to a tweet from a luxery jet wishing Dan Gilbert, LeBron, and D-Wade a Happy 4th, and I think like an ex Cleveland radio host saying that he's hearing Dan Gilbert is meeting with Wade and or his agent tonight or in the morning. Again guys, I'm probably gettinng duped but theres a lot of smoke. Just something to keep your eyes on.

Gilbert and Lebron don't have a relationship, nor do they interact, according to virtually all reports, so I doubt he would be meeting Wade..

Cavs would have to do some serious convincing to get Wade to play for that cheap, though, since his biggest issue with Miami has been $..

Vic Petro
07-04-2016, 10:29 PM
Who says he doesn't go there for a huge discount though? He might go there for a discount. That would probably be the only place he does that, but yeah, he might do something crazy like that.

Oh I agree. I think the smoke leads to fire. It makes sense on multiple levels.

Chinook
07-04-2016, 10:31 PM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?

djohn14
07-04-2016, 10:33 PM
Gilbert and Lebron don't have a relationship, nor do they interact, according to virtually all reports, so I doubt he would be meeting Wade..

Cavs would have to do some serious convincing to get Wade to play for that cheap, though, since his biggest issue with Miami has been $..I see what you are saying but I would think Dan Gilbert would have to play some sort of role in this process.
In regards to money, yes theres reason to be skeptical espcially in this inflated market...It's hard to see a guy like Wade playing for that cheap. But lets's be honest, like 2 teams have a shot at a title next season barring injury. If Wade wants another one he's going to have to go.

DPG21920
07-04-2016, 10:33 PM
No ^ better use for money right now. I'd rather have Dedmon

Emperor
07-04-2016, 10:34 PM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?

Hell yes.

Mr. Body
07-04-2016, 10:35 PM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?

Yep.

look_at_g_shred
07-04-2016, 10:35 PM
Hell no

cjw
07-04-2016, 10:45 PM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?

As long as he bought into the system and took the right role. Though how weird would it be for Kobe to get his sixth with Duncan's team. Never will happen, but fun to think about.

ace3g
07-04-2016, 10:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/744600788685619200/_A3Le2p2_bigger.jpg Chris Mannix Verified account ‏@ChrisMannixYS (https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS)

Crazy prediction: Westbrook leaves OKC for...San Antonio. Teams with Kawhi/LMA to haunt Durant and the Warriors into the next decade.

Chinook
07-04-2016, 10:48 PM
Also, what's Nene up to? I haven't heard of him receiving interest, and he's still a good offense-only big who can make a defensive play every once in a while. If he ends up becoming a min-salary guy, he makes some sense. He can score in a variety of ways, and if the team is going to double-down on dominating with their front court, Nene seems like a decent final piece to that.

Mr. Body
07-04-2016, 10:48 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/744600788685619200/_A3Le2p2_bigger.jpg Chris Mannix Verified account ‏@ChrisMannixYS (https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS)

Crazy prediction: Westbrook leaves OKC for...San Antonio. Teams with Kawhi/LMA to haunt Durant and the Warriors into the next decade.

Warriors don't have the pedigree to last into the next decade. But Westbrook won't ever come to the Spurs.

Mr. Body
07-04-2016, 10:49 PM
Also, what's Nene up to? I haven't heard of him receiving interest, and he's still a good offense-only big who can make a defensive play every once in a while. If he ends up becoming a min-salary guy, he makes some sense. He can score in a variety of ways, and if the team is going to double-down on dominating with their front court, Nene seems like a decent final piece to that.

I was thinking he'd go to GS.

Kikoluna
07-04-2016, 10:49 PM
Man kobe sounds great.

tbdog
07-04-2016, 10:50 PM
No team can beat the Dubs in small ball. Not even slightly big ball. You need to go big, stay big at all times and never give up a board. It is the only way.

GSH
07-04-2016, 10:52 PM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?


My gut says no - he really wasn't good, and even he knew it. Then there was that last game, where he scored a zillion, and made me believe he could still do it. Maybe the other team let off the gas, but Kobe still but the ball through the hoop. My answer is no and yes. Definitely.


That couldn't happen, right?

NASpurs
07-04-2016, 10:52 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/744600788685619200/_A3Le2p2_bigger.jpg Chris Mannix Verified account ‏@ChrisMannixYS (https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS)

Crazy prediction: Westbrook leaves OKC for...San Antonio. Teams with Kawhi/LMA to haunt Durant and the Warriors into the next decade.

Pop wouldn't make it til the All Star Game. :lol

Kawhitstorm
07-04-2016, 10:53 PM
Also, what's Nene up to? I haven't heard of him receiving interest, and he's still a good offense-only big who can make a defensive play every once in a while. If he ends up becoming a min-salary guy, he makes some sense. He can score in a variety of ways, and if the team is going to double-down on dominating with their front court, Nene seems like a decent final piece to that.

Seem like he has been waiting until the dust settles so he can go ring chasing. I would guess he would sign w/ GSW especially if Barbosa/Sideshow Bob are still on the roster.

Spur|n|Austin
07-04-2016, 11:04 PM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/48/e3/58/48e358b2ee42b3ef81effd66fac1fda5.jpg

ElNono
07-04-2016, 11:09 PM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?

no

Ice009
07-04-2016, 11:10 PM
Hell no

For a small amount of money (a lot less than 30 million or whatever he got paid last year), and a bench role, absolutely I would take him.

Edit : I keep forgetting how bad his defense was. If he was capable of playing better defense and focusing on that end, I would take him, but if his defense is truly shot due to age, then I might have to re-think it ;).

NASpurs
07-05-2016, 12:22 AM
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/07/cavs_reached_out_to_david_west.html

Cavs reached out to David West, but the veteran forward undecided on playing


If free agent David West chooses to continue his playing career, the Cleveland Cavaliers are one of many teams interested in acquiring the power forward, league sources informed cleveland.com.

West, 35, is "still weighing all of his options," cleveland.com was told. Retirement is one, following his lone season with the San Antonio Spurs.

Obstructed_View
07-05-2016, 12:26 AM
No, but that would be incredibly cold-blooded. The ripples from that would just cause a shitstorm in the league. They'd implement new rules over it, IMO.

That would be the greatest thing in the history of sports. I don't think the potential damage to the Warriors is enough for Durant to risk it. Someday someone will do it and they'll eviscerate a team like Jordan did to the Mavericks.

Obstructed_View
07-05-2016, 12:27 AM
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/07/cavs_reached_out_to_david_west.html

Cavs reached out to David West, but the veteran forward undecided on playing


If free agent David West chooses to continue his playing career, the Cleveland Cavaliers are one of many teams interested in acquiring the power forward, league sources informed cleveland.com.

West, 35, is "still weighing all of his options," cleveland.com was told. Retirement is one, following his lone season with the San Antonio Spurs.

I thought the Cavs were like a jillion dollars into the luxury tax. How the fuck do they have money to sign free agents?

Hoops Czar
07-05-2016, 12:48 AM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?

Hmm, let me see... Key rotation players next year are Kyle Anderson, Jonathan Simmons, Davis Bertans and Boban Marjanovic. Ah, yeah, I'd take Kobe in a heartbeat.

Uriel
07-05-2016, 12:52 AM
Scary thought: David West leaving the Spurs to join the Warriors.

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-05-2016, 03:21 AM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?

Him and Murray could form the first sub 30% shooting backup backcourt in history. Would be fun. Pop would also be obliged to play him 40 mins per game. What's not to like eh?

TheGreatYacht
07-05-2016, 03:23 AM
You know, running the numbers, I don't think the Spurs NEED to trade Diaw at all if they intend to stretch Tim. They should have JUST enough to complete this deal. That also means that stretching Tim and trading Diaw gives them about $7 Million they could use on bring in about big man (and hopefully not use on Manu's ass) or to retain Boban.



Player
Salary/Hold


LaMarcus Aldridge
$20,575,005


Kawhi Leonard
$17,638,063


Pau Gasol
$14,669,927


Tony Parker
$14,445,313


Danny Green
$10,000,000


Boris Diaw
$6,500,000


Patty Mills
$3,578,948


Tim Duncan (Stretched)
$2,131,250


Kyle Anderson
$1,192,080


Livio Jean-Charles
$990,700


Dejounte Murray
$983,400


Jonathan Simmons
$874,636


Roster Charge
$543,471






Total
$94,122,793


Remaining Cap Space
$20,207



Thanks :tu oh man, you just have that feeling the front office is going to give that money to Manu smh

Kawhitstorm
07-05-2016, 04:02 AM
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/07/cavs_reached_out_to_david_west.html

Cavs reached out to David West, but the veteran forward undecided on playing


If free agent David West chooses to continue his playing career, the Cleveland Cavaliers are one of many teams interested in acquiring the power forward, league sources informed cleveland.com.

West, 35, is "still weighing all of his options," cleveland.com was told. Retirement is one, following his lone season with the San Antonio Spurs.

Trying to replace a rim protector & rugged rebounder like Mozgov w/ D-Worst?:lmao

I get that Dick Jefferson rang but D-Worst is physically DONE!:lol

Robz4000
07-05-2016, 04:15 AM
Scary thought: David West leaving the Spurs to join the Warriors.

Don't think he's that desperate for a ring.

polandprzem
07-05-2016, 05:04 AM
We are old farts tbh - how we gonna defend GS machine with so many off ball plays?

insane

CGD
07-05-2016, 06:31 AM
Thanks :tu oh man, you just have that feeling the front office is going to give that money to Manu smh

And Bertans now

NickiRasgo
07-05-2016, 07:45 AM
Serious question, do you think if the Spurs was able to acquired KD would the hate floating around going to be the same? Or same treatment just like to LMA?

SpursFan86
07-05-2016, 07:52 AM
Serious question, do you think if the Spurs was able to acquired KD would the hate floating around going to be the same? Or same treatment just like to LMA?

Nah it wouldn't be as bad, but I do think there'd be a decent amount of people criticizing him for leaving to join a 67-win team (and one that has been somewhat of a rival of OKC's for the past few years).

djohn14
07-05-2016, 07:58 AM
Serious question, do you think if the Spurs was able to acquired KD would the hate floating around going to be the same? Or same treatment just like to LMA?
He would get criticized, but not like he is now. For the simple reason that we haven't been the best team in the league the last two years. We didn't win a title last year and we didn't set the wins record this year. Even though we've been terrific those two points make all the difference in the world.

Jdspur20
07-05-2016, 08:18 AM
He would get criticized, but not like he is now. For the simple reason that we haven't been the best team in the league the last two years. We didn't win a title last year and we didn't set the wins record this year. Even though we've been terrific those two points make all the difference in the world.

Yep.

Kuestmaster
07-05-2016, 08:32 AM
Dirk is returning to Dallas on a two-year 40 million deal. Cuban is crazy.

SpursFan86
07-05-2016, 08:40 AM
Dirk is returning to Dallas on a two-year 40 million deal. Cuban is crazy.

Not really. Dirk took a huge discount the previous few years, and it's not like Dallas would be contending if they used that money on other players. Besides. Dirk for $20 million/year isn't that overpriced in this current market.

sasaint
07-05-2016, 08:49 AM
Thanks :tu oh man, you just have that feeling the front office is going to give that money to Manu smh

You just expressed the fear of a lot of fans.

sasaint
07-05-2016, 08:51 AM
Dirk is returning to Dallas on a two-year 40 million deal. Cuban is crazy.

Where else is Cuban going to spend the money? Not many FAs will even look at Dallas. I am more surprised that Dirk is returning. Is it money or loyalty? It isn't a burning desire to win another championship.

ceperez
07-05-2016, 09:41 AM
The current team based on reports?

C - Gasol \ Marjanovic ( offered )
PF - Aldridge \ Diaw (to be traded )
SF - Leonard \ Anderson \ Bertans ( as reported )
SG - Green \ Manu (as reported ) \ Simmons \ Murray (1st round draft)
G - Parker \ Mills \ Forbes (1 year)

13 players (excluding Diaw)

Spurs need a couple of bigs on the cheap.

No word on LJC.

Chinook
07-05-2016, 09:55 AM
The current team based on reports?

C - Gasol \ Marjanovic ( offered )
PF - Aldridge \ Diaw (to be traded )
SF - Leonard \ Anderson \ Bertans ( as reported )
SG - Green \ Manu (as reported ) \ Simmons \ Murray (1st round draft)
G - Parker \ Mills \ Forbes (1 year)

13 players (excluding Diaw)

Spurs need a couple of bigs on the cheap.

No word on LJC.

I think once a Diaw trade goes through, we'll see more talk about the team signing these contracts. I think Anderson slides over to the four spot with Bertans, LJC and Simmons competing to take the small-forward spot next to him. If Boban or Tim is retained, I think Milutinov makes sense to bring over, though it could also be Cady.

TheGreatYacht
07-05-2016, 09:58 AM
You just expressed the fear of a lot of fans.
I know. We need what little money there is left to bring back Boban (or another backup center) and a backup PF

It's going to be tough to get a ring chasing vet to come here on the vets min, thanks to what them Gay Area boys are doing.

Keepin' it real
07-05-2016, 10:08 AM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?

I might stop being a Spurs fan, like I stopped being a Cowboys fan after they signed Terrell Owens. There are some things a team just shouldn't do.

sasaint
07-05-2016, 10:10 AM
I know. We need what little money there is left to bring back Boban (or another backup center) and a backup PF

It's going to be tough to get a ring chasing vet to come here on the vets min, thanks to what them Gay Area boys are doing.

At some point we simply must have some young guys. But Pop is so averse to playing young guys and living with their growing pains that something has to give. Basically, Pop forced the issue with TP but we had Avery to bail him out. Then he invested some trust in that Slavic guy who Lindsay Hunter ate alive in the Detroit championship series, and that pretty much killed Pop's patience with young guys until George Hill came along and then, of course, Kawhi. That's not many young guys in 19 years.

Keepin' it real
07-05-2016, 10:11 AM
Scary thought: David West leaving the Spurs to join the Warriors.

Why a scary thought? Spurstalk been shitting on the guy. He's the reason the Spurs lost to OKC, remember? So if anything, Spurstalk should HOPE DWest joins the Warriors. That would improve the Spurs chance of winning.

TheGreatYacht
07-05-2016, 10:15 AM
At some point we simply must have some young guys. But Pop is so averse to playing young guys and living with their growing pains that something has to give. Basically, Pop forced the issue with TP but we had Avery to bail him out. Then he invested some trust in that Slavic guy who Lindsay Hunter ate alive in the Detroit championship series, and that pretty much killed Pop's patience with young guys until George Hill came along and then, of course, Kawhi. That's not many young guys in 19 years.
JaMychal Green could've been our guy had they offered him a longer contract. If Boban would be brought back, he's guaranteed minutes now that he doesn't have the "rookie" label that Pop hates

Keepin' it real
07-05-2016, 10:18 AM
Serious question, do you think if the Spurs was able to acquired KD would the hate floating around going to be the same? Or same treatment just like to LMA?

No, if KD had chosen the Spurs, Sportscenter's lineup would have been:

Over analysis of every MLB game
Detailed coverage of every soccer game
Latest Lebron news
Should the Warriors be considered the best team ever?

...

Oh yeah, and on the ticker, there'd be a typo-riddled mention of KD agreeing to sign with the "boring" Spurs.

Leetonidas
07-05-2016, 10:18 AM
Trade fat Diaw already

sasaint
07-05-2016, 10:22 AM
JaMychal Green could've been our guy had they offered him a longer contract. If Boban would be brought back, he's guaranteed minutes now that he doesn't have the "rookie" label that Pop hates

We are paying now for the JaMychal decision. It really hurt. But supposedly we wouldn't give him 2 years - probably would have meant parting with the beloved Boner. :lol Pop simply sabotaged our season by refusing to give Boban a shot against the OKC bigs. Going with West/Diaw... SMH. So I hope Boban does get a shot, and I hope he can learn to position himself better.

sasaint
07-05-2016, 10:24 AM
Trade fat Diaw already

You think teams are chomping at the bit to acquire a coaster who revived his career for a couple of seasons under the best of circumstances, but has rapidly regressed to Charlotte form?

Chinook
07-05-2016, 10:25 AM
Trade fat Diaw already

Trading him for 2014 Diaw would be nice, especially considering that one was making $4.5 Million a year.

cjw
07-05-2016, 10:29 AM
You think teams are chomping at the bit to acquire a coaster who revived his career for a couple of seasons under the best of circumstances, but has rapidly regressed to Charlotte form?

If I'm well below the salary floor, I'd definitely take him on now that free agency has played itself out in large part. His contract has value next offseason given it's fully non-guaranteed until well into 2017 free agency.

And at $6-$7 million, he's not the worst use of money in this market.

sasaint
07-05-2016, 10:32 AM
If I'm well below the salary floor, I'd definitely take him on now that free agency has played itself out in large part. His contract has value next offseason given it's fully non-guaranteed until well into 2017 free agency.

And at $6-$7 million, he's not the worst use of money in this market.

I hope you are right. I fear we will have to attach an asset to move him.

Kikoluna
07-05-2016, 10:41 AM
Kyle as first sub for Leonard is scary shit.:wakeup

Leetonidas
07-05-2016, 10:44 AM
You think teams are chomping at the bit to acquire a coaster who revived his career for a couple of seasons under the best of circumstances, but has rapidly regressed to Charlotte form?

Yes

montgod
07-05-2016, 10:44 AM
I hope you are right. I fear we will have to attach an asset to move him.

I don't think they will.

SPURt
07-05-2016, 10:45 AM
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DPG21920
07-05-2016, 10:47 AM
I think once a Diaw trade goes through, we'll see more talk about the team signing these contracts. I think Anderson slides over to the four spot with Bertans, LJC and Simmons competing to take the small-forward spot next to him. If Boban or Tim is retained, I think Milutinov makes sense to bring over, though it could also be Cady.

I'm trying to get confirmation on whether or not a player can in fact be waived/stretched then resigned. If that is the case, I have no idea why SA would not do that as it means a raise for Tim (unless they feel they want every cent of cap space next year and want to eat Tim's fully salary this year only).

It also seems like SA is keeping Manu's cap hold on the books as well.

gambit1990
07-05-2016, 11:07 AM
Random question: If Kobe Bryant wanted to sign for the room exception right now, would you say yes?
:lol fuck no.

Chinook
07-05-2016, 11:08 AM
I'm trying to get confirmation on whether or not a player can in fact be waived/stretched then resigned. If that is the case, I have no idea why SA would not do that as it means a raise for Tim (unless they feel they want every cent of cap space next year and want to eat Tim's fully salary this year only).

It also seems like SA is keeping Manu's cap hold on the books as well.

They better not be messing around with that cap hold. It's room exception or bust. The team just needs that space.

ceperez
07-05-2016, 11:09 AM
Can anyone breakdown the situation with the Gasol signing?

I read that Diaw and Marjanovic will have to go. Is that correct?

tav1
07-05-2016, 11:11 AM
I'm trying to get confirmation on whether or not a player can in fact be waived/stretched then resigned. If that is the case, I have no idea why SA would not do that as it means a raise for Tim (unless they feel they want every cent of cap space next year and want to eat Tim's fully salary this year only).

It also seems like SA is keeping Manu's cap hold on the books as well.

If this is possible, I vote we name it The Chinook Maneuver. It's clever.

loveforthegame
07-05-2016, 11:14 AM
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Also trying to get David Lee to return.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242691/David-Lee-Doesnt-Rule-Out-Return-To-Warriors

Mr. Body
07-05-2016, 11:15 AM
Um, doesn't GSW realize they already have shooting?

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-05-2016, 11:31 AM
750342992028954624

Also trying to get David Lee to return.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242691/David-Lee-Doesnt-Rule-Out-Return-To-Warriors

As much as I hate Ray Allen I'd like to see his clutch shooting at the end of the Spurs bench.

Leetonidas
07-05-2016, 11:33 AM
lol Ray Allen. dude has been retired for like 2 years already. he ain't helping no one

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 11:42 AM
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Damn, spurs coulda gone for that!

gambit1990
07-05-2016, 11:42 AM
Can you resign someone who you just stretched?

Yeah, I don't see a single rule against it. You can definitely re-sign guys you waive.
when has someone ever been stretched and then resigned by the same team in the same summer?

if it were possible why wouldn't more teams do it? stretch a player's contract to free cap space... then resign him to the minimum.

Chinook
07-05-2016, 11:47 AM
when has someone ever been stretched and then resigned by the same team in the same summer?

if it were possible why wouldn't more teams do it? stretch a player's contract to free cap space... then resign him to the minimum.

Teams usually don't commit to pay a player to be a free agent. Why would that player not just go out a re-sign for more than the min? And is it worth it to lose Bird rights or to expose that player to waivers?

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 11:51 AM
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gambit1990
07-05-2016, 12:06 PM
Teams usually don't commit to pay a player to be a free agent. Why would that player not just go out a re-sign for more than the min? And is it worth it to lose Bird rights or to expose that player to waivers?
the player would resign for the minimum to help the team out:


If I were the Spurs, I would just stretch Tim right now. I'd tell him if that he could take as long as he wanted to decide and that when he did, there'd be a minimum contract waiting for him.

and if td has to clear waivers... another team could just claim him. would he play for them? probably not. but if he wanted to play that team could then get something from the spurs via trade.

Chinook
07-05-2016, 12:15 PM
the player would resign for the minimum to help the team out:

But that's a big risk for most teams, in the same way as letting someone out of their contract with a wink-wink re-signing is. That only happens one a generation, and it's been around longer than the stretch provision has been.


and if td has to clear waivers... another team could just claim him. would he play for them? probably not. but if he wanted to play that team could then get something from the spurs via trade.

It is something that could happen, but it wouldn't. No one's gonna volunteer to take money off the Spurs' hands for no reason.

Leetonidas
07-05-2016, 12:17 PM
Westbrook rules out signing an extension with OKC...get on the phone now :lol

gambit1990
07-05-2016, 12:20 PM
chris paul will opt out after next season. i'll take him or westbrook :hungry:

Emperor
07-05-2016, 12:24 PM
Westbrook rules out signing an extension with OKC...get on the phone now :lol

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hoxl6mp

All i can come up with. We'd obviously have to include future picks but it's highly likely Toronto still says no cuz it does seem pretty lopsided. But since this is a contract year for Bobo then he'll most likely play more motivated and Parker well, maybe he will aswell being in a new environment.

tmtcsc
07-05-2016, 12:27 PM
As much as I hate Ray Allen I'd like to see his clutch shooting at the end of the Spurs bench.

I think your memory is better than Ray's current shooting.

tmtcsc
07-05-2016, 12:28 PM
Teams usually don't commit to pay a player to be a free agent. Why would that player not just go out a re-sign for more than the min? And is it worth it to lose Bird rights or to expose that player to waivers?

Carlos Boozer.

Chinook
07-05-2016, 12:33 PM
Carlos Boozer.

Yes, and Chandler Parsons. For something we know is legal, you see it happen extremely rarely.

GSH
07-05-2016, 12:39 PM
I'm trying to get confirmation on whether or not a player can in fact be waived/stretched then resigned. If that is the case, I have no idea why SA would not do that as it means a raise for Tim (unless they feel they want every cent of cap space next year and want to eat Tim's fully salary this year only).

It also seems like SA is keeping Manu's cap hold on the books as well.


I don't know, but I can't believe that they would allow a loophole like that to exist. We all know what the intent in the stretch provision was, and that's not it. I remember a situation coming up about retirement (Brandon Roy, I think) where he was thinking about coming back to a different team, after being out of basketball for a couple of seasons. The way I remember it, if he signed with a new team before a certain date, his old team would be on the hook for a huge cap hit, to make up for the relief they had gotten when he retired. Basically, it seems like Tim would have to stay out of the league for a significant time before deciding to "un-retire" - otherwise the league would reverse the cap relief they get from stretching his salary.

Just a guess, but it makes sense.

Chinook
07-05-2016, 12:45 PM
I don't know, but I can't believe that they would allow a loophole like that to exist. We all know what the intent in the stretch provision was, and that's not it. I remember a situation coming up about retirement (Brandon Roy, I think) where he was thinking about coming back to a different team, after being out of basketball for a couple of seasons. The way I remember it, if he signed with a new team before a certain date, his old team would be on the hook for a huge cap hit, to make up for the relief they had gotten when he retired. Basically, it seems like Tim would have to stay out of the league for a significant time before deciding to "un-retire" - otherwise the league would reverse the cap relief they get from stretching his salary.

Just a guess, but it makes sense.

Tim only has to officially retire if he's under contract. The Spurs waiving him relieves him of that obligation. If he is done, he just stays a free agent for ever, or he can apply then. If he's not, he can come back. It would be no different than anyone else who retires and comes back.

Roy was amnestied so that they didn't have to deal with how strict the retirement rules are. You are correct about that. But medical retirement is completely different. Roy actually did come back, by the way. He just couldn't get it done.

cjw
07-05-2016, 12:47 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hoxl6mp

All i can come up with. We'd obviously have to include future picks but it's highly likely Toronto still says no cuz it does seem pretty lopsided. But since this is a contract year for Bobo then he'll most likely play more motivated and Parker well, maybe he will aswell being in a new environment.

Any trade for Westbrook would at the least need to include Green, and more probably Aldridge (being sent to a third team). No point in proposing anything less.

Ice009
07-05-2016, 01:01 PM
Any trade for Westbrook would at the least need to include Green, and more probably Aldridge (being sent to a third team). No point in proposing anything less.

I mean, the only other way the Spurs could have a very, very remote chance of getting him is if Russell comes out and says that the only team he wants to be traded to is the Spurs and that he won't play for any other team.

tmtcsc
07-05-2016, 01:01 PM
Any trade for Westbrook would at the least need to include Green, and more probably Aldridge (being sent to a third team). No point in proposing anything less.

Just wait until next summer for Westbrook.

GSH
07-05-2016, 01:05 PM
Tim only has to officially retire if he's under contract. The Spurs waiving him relieves him of that obligation. If he is done, he just stays a free agent for ever, or he can apply then. If he's not, he can come back. It would be no different than anyone else who retires and comes back.

Roy was amnestied so that they didn't have to deal with how strict the retirement rules are. You are correct about that. But medical retirement is completely different. Roy actually did come back, by the way. He just couldn't get it done.


I appreciate the explanations. But I wasn't aware that there is any difference between medical retirement and normal old-age retirement, when it came to the stretch provision. But the intent is clearly not to allow the team the cap relief PLUS to be able to keep the player and pay him the full amount of the contract. The league has a rule against circumvention, and it seems like what is being discussed would be circumventing the rule.


Hey... wait a minute...

Could the Spurs be trying to work out a Disabled Player's Exception for Tim? Keeping his contract live, acting as if he would play this season, if healthy? If an NBA doctor says that it is unlikely that he could play this season, they could possibly get an exception that would let them pay around $3M for another player, if I remember right. That would let Tim get paid, and still let the Spurs acquire a player. Actually, I think it's pretty valid, given the condition of his knees. There may be other technicalities that I don't know about, but it would sure make sense out of what we're seeing. I think they had to wait until July 1 to apply, so it could be tied up with doctors right now?

bklynspursfan
07-05-2016, 01:12 PM
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GSH
07-05-2016, 01:21 PM
Kyle on Manu's return. (I can't keep up with the gazillion posts in unpredictable threads. If it's been posted, just don't click on the link.)

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2016/07/05/anderson-plans-to-take-advantage-of-ginobilis-return/

Chinook
07-05-2016, 01:28 PM
I appreciate the explanations. But I wasn't aware that there is any difference between medical retirement and normal old-age retirement, when it came to the stretch provision. But the intent is clearly not to allow the team the cap relief PLUS to be able to keep the player and pay him the full amount of the contract. The league has a rule against circumvention, and it seems like what is being discussed would be circumventing the rule.


Hey... wait a minute...

Could the Spurs be trying to work out a Disabled Player's Exception for Tim? Keeping his contract live, acting as if he would play this season, if healthy? If an NBA doctor says that it is unlikely that he could play this season, they could possibly get an exception that would let them pay around $3M for another player, if I remember right. That would let Tim get paid, and still let the Spurs acquire a player. Actually, I think it's pretty valid, given the condition of his knees. There may be other technicalities that I don't know about, but it would sure make sense out of what we're seeing. I think they had to wait until July 1 to apply, so it could be tied up with doctors right now?

I mean, they would save more this season by waiving him, and he'd still get his money. And the team wouldn't have to worry about only using that exception on a one-year deal, as they do for DPEs.

BillMc
07-05-2016, 02:57 PM
It's weird there has been no rumors annoucements on West of any sort. If he's retiring you'd think you'd have heard a link or two or he even might have announced it by now. If he's looking at offers from other teams, you'd think you'd have heard of a meeting at least. I can only wonder if he's got a deal from the Spurs and is just waiting for all the other pieces to go in place. Or a contingent one at least. Or he's waiting on TD.

West's a big enough name that retirement might make some news at least in the twitterverse.

NASpurs
07-05-2016, 03:01 PM
It's weird there has been no rumors annoucements on West of any sort. If he's retiring you'd think you'd have heard a link or two or he even might have announced it by now. If he's looking at offers from other teams, you'd think you'd have heard of a meeting at least. I can only wonder if he's got a deal from the Spurs and is just waiting for all the other pieces to go in place. Or a contingent one at least. Or he's waiting on TD.

West's a big enough name that retirement might make some news at least in the twitterverse.

I guess you missed this link I posted yesterday :lol

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cleveland.com/articles/18897218/cavs_reached_out_to_david_west.amp#

GSH
07-05-2016, 03:05 PM
I mean, they would save more this season by waiving him, and he'd still get his money. And the team wouldn't have to worry about only using that exception on a one-year deal, as they do for DPEs.


Not trying to be obtuse. I really thought I understood the cap better than this. If they waive him, they either have to take the full cap hit this year, or spread it over three years. But at minimum, that's $2M and change that counts against this year's cap. And since they are totally up against the wall, that $2m limits their ability to sign players. Pretty sure all that is right.

If they get an exception, they still have the hit for his salary, but at least they could fill a roster slot by paying more than a min contract. I was thinking that they could offer a Euro player enough to possibly get him to come over. Yeah, it's a one-year deal, but if he steps up he would get a big payday under next year's expanded cap. I know it would cost more total dollars, but it's the cap that is the big worry right now.

Am I just missing something in the numbers? The Knicks just signed Kuzminskas away from Dogus. I'm still expecting to see more of these Euro players getting signed, because of the salary craziness. I just thought this would give the Spurs the ability to possibly put one of those guys on the roster, where they might not be able to otherwise because they're cap-bound.

BillMc
07-05-2016, 03:05 PM
I guess you missed this link I posted yesterday :lol

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cleveland.com/articles/18897218/cavs_reached_out_to_david_west.amp#

Yep. I missed that. Thanks. Still wonder if something is going on behind the scenes with the Spurs, or if David is just chillin' on a beach thinkin' about his future.

kobyz
07-05-2016, 03:09 PM
We just missed on the Lithuanian Kawhi Leonard! Kusmniskas sign two years deal with the Knicks!

GSH
07-05-2016, 03:09 PM
Yep. I missed that. Thanks. Still wonder if something is going on behind the scenes with the Spurs, or if David is just chillin' on a beach thinkin' about his future.


I'd love to see him come back and actually get to play PF, with a real C on the floor.

BillMc
07-05-2016, 03:10 PM
I'd love to see him come back and actually get to play PF, with a real C on the floor.

Agreed.

NikosChelsea7
07-05-2016, 03:11 PM
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GSH
07-05-2016, 03:14 PM
We just missed on the Lithuanian Kawhi Leonard! Kusmniskas sign two years deal with the Knicks!


Kuzminskas wasn't a bad pickup for the Knicks. He was undrafted, so all they had to do was come to terms on money. They're going to have to buy him out, I'm sure to the max the NBA will allow these days. (Used to be $500K.) He may have to pay more of a buyout himself, so no clue what the salary was at this time. But considering the state of the FA market, I suspect he will be a good value. Certainly as good or better player than some of the other scrubs that are getting paid.

NikosChelsea7
07-05-2016, 03:19 PM
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Joseph Kony
07-05-2016, 03:20 PM
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:lmao

this is actually good for us. This dude sucks ass and you know Kerr is gonna give him minutes :lol

SpursforSix
07-05-2016, 03:20 PM
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well damn

Ron Swanson
07-05-2016, 03:21 PM
Of course :lol

jyra
07-05-2016, 03:21 PM
You have to respect his willingness to give up this much money for a ring.

Joseph Kony
07-05-2016, 03:22 PM
Warriors really are gonna have no size

raybies
07-05-2016, 03:23 PM
Yeah I'm not mad at him, he has his best shot to ring. It's clear he's ready to go out. Thanks for the year David but the parting was mutually best for all.

Robz4000
07-05-2016, 03:23 PM
750423398795194368

:lol God dammit

lmbebo
07-05-2016, 03:23 PM
West going to Golden State. I kinda figured.

bklynspursfan
07-05-2016, 03:24 PM
West was solid for us all year. It's not his fault he was forced to play a position that isn't his strong suit. OKC was just a bad match up for our bigs. I wish we could've gotten that ring with him a la Mike Finley. He was a pro all year.

GSH
07-05-2016, 03:24 PM
My first thought was that West must have been really pissed at the Spurs or something. But he came here looking for a ring, and you have to admit that's his best chance to get one next season.

timtonymanu
07-05-2016, 03:25 PM
Good for him, tbh. Just sucks they continue to pick up everybody.

keeferob25
07-05-2016, 03:25 PM
Nobody can realistically be mad at West. Dude wants and ring and thought his shot was with us. Gave up 10 million at least to play for us. It didn't work and now he's moving on. But isn't Speights better than him at this point? What's his situation?

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 03:25 PM
Huge ring chaser :lol

BillMc
07-05-2016, 03:26 PM
West chasing a ring like a 45 year old cougar

raybies
07-05-2016, 03:27 PM
I kinda wanted this to happen so Anderson could slide over to the four. That would leave us with a hole at the backup three and if Manu or Simmons can play it you could essentially sign another two. This would leave room for someone like Arcidiacono or Forbes. I need see more of Forbes but I think he might be worth a roster spot.

szkorhetz
07-05-2016, 03:28 PM
Fuck this shit.

NASpurs
07-05-2016, 03:28 PM
West chasing a ring like a 45 year old cougar

That was impeccable timing from you, wondering about West like an hr ago. :lol

TheGoldStandard
07-05-2016, 03:28 PM
D-Worst gonna get dominated on the boards in GS

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 03:29 PM
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NASpurs
07-05-2016, 03:29 PM
Watch West not look like a TOSB when he plays the Spurs. :lol

BillMc
07-05-2016, 03:30 PM
That was impeccable timing from you, wondering about West like an hr ago. :lol

Yeah. :lolWith that timing I really thought at first I was being trolled by someone. But it's the truth.

NASpurs
07-05-2016, 03:30 PM
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ceperez
07-05-2016, 03:30 PM
I kinda wanted this to happen so Anderson could slide over to the four. That would leave us with a hole at the backup three and if Manu or Simmons can play it you could essentially sign another two. This would leave room for someone like Arcidiacono or Forbes. I need see more of Forbes but I think he might be worth a roster spot.

Forbes already has a one year contract. So between Arcidiacono and Forbes, it'll likely be Forbes. Besides, we don't need any slow footed players in the team, we already got SloMo and Bertans!

TheMulletMan3000
07-05-2016, 03:31 PM
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/750426511996510208

Another one?

Hoops Czar
07-05-2016, 03:31 PM
And everybody thought the Warriors were going to have trouble filling out the roster. :lol He'll be a great fit in GS because unlike the Spurs, the Warriors won't need him to much of anything except hit the occasional jumper and get some rebounds. He's basically replacing Mo Speights.

Robz4000
07-05-2016, 03:31 PM
750426511996510208

Spurs continue to get pillaged

raybies
07-05-2016, 03:32 PM
I'm just waiting for word on the Boris front. It's strange that there hasn't been a deal yet. Other teams get it done. Spurs must be slowing the game down to get the best offer from bobos preferred choice. When can we expect a deal. I would imagine by today or tomorrow. I doubt they want a holdup on the 7th. Best to get everyone signed.

Joseph Kony
07-05-2016, 03:33 PM
what's Rasual Butler up to :lol

HarlemHeat37
07-05-2016, 03:33 PM
They upgraded from Varejao and Speights by adding Pachulia and West..all they need is somebody to give them some rim protection to replace the Bogut/Ezeli duo and it's over..

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 03:35 PM
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ceperez
07-05-2016, 03:35 PM
They upgraded from Varejao and Speights by adding Pachulia and West..all they need is somebody to give them some rim protection to replace the Bogut/Ezeli duo and it's over..

Verajao likely to sign for minimum too... he wants revenge for what Cleveland did to him.

bklynspursfan
07-05-2016, 03:36 PM
Watch West not look like a TOSB when he plays the Spurs. :lol

I mean he really only did against OKC, and all our bigs did for the most part. All year, especially when Timmy when down dude stepped up big time.

TheGoldStandard
07-05-2016, 03:37 PM
Wonder where Barbosa ends up and for how much

HarlemHeat37
07-05-2016, 03:38 PM
Verajao likely to sign for minimum too... he wants revenge for what Cleveland did to him.

He sucks, tbh:lol

Spurs9
07-05-2016, 03:38 PM
Verajao likely to sign for minimum too... he wants revenge for what Cleveland did to him.

What do you mean? He got a ring with either team winning.

sasaint
07-05-2016, 03:38 PM
what's Rasual Butler up to :lol

Going to the Dubs?

RD2191
07-05-2016, 03:38 PM
Could the Spurs not afford West?

sasaint
07-05-2016, 03:39 PM
What do you mean? He got a ring with either team winning.

:lol That has gotta be a first!

HarlemHeat37
07-05-2016, 03:39 PM
With Draymond and Dominos easily able to play 40 minutes in the playoffs, if necessary, West will thrive in a limited role, tbh..much different than here, where he became unplayable against OKC and the Spurs didn't have alternatives..

Mugen
07-05-2016, 03:40 PM
Could the Spurs not afford West?

He's thirsty for a ring tbh.

raybies
07-05-2016, 03:41 PM
Forbes already has a one year contract. So between Arcidiacono and Forbes, it'll likely be Forbes. Besides, we don't need any slow footed players in the team, we already got SloMo and Bertans!

Yeah, just watching Forbes' style he reminds me of a poor man's Curry. I've been wanting the Spurs to sign a player like him that can run of screens. I want to see the sl squad look for him to see how accurate he is in volume. But if he can bring the ball up and guard as well as patty which isnt much to ask them he can play with the second unit who would theoretically have at least two maybe three ball handlers, Manu, Jon, and Kyle. Imagine a lineup of Forbes/Manu/Bertans/Kyle/ and maybe Milutinov or Boban. The spacing would be unbelievable. Just need a big that can roll well.

Mugen
07-05-2016, 03:42 PM
DWest going to GSW is good news if it pushes the Front Office to keep Bobo & Boban tbh.

Leetonidas
07-05-2016, 03:43 PM
yep, this dude was garbage and now Pop can't play him at C anymore so this is good for us either way. Bertans or LJC can't be worse

montgod
07-05-2016, 03:43 PM
DWest going to GSW is good news if it pushes the Front Office to keep Bobo & Boban tbh.

Nope... still need cap room.

cjw
07-05-2016, 03:44 PM
DWest going to GSW is good news if it pushes the Front Office to keep Bobo & Boban tbh.

They probably can't afford to keep both.

raybies
07-05-2016, 03:45 PM
Diaw to the jazz

Seventyniner
07-05-2016, 03:45 PM
West is basically a better version of Speights. At least we'll get to see what happens when he gets to jack up 1-2 threes a game.

Robz4000
07-05-2016, 03:45 PM
Seriously, fuck Parker and his contract.

Mugen
07-05-2016, 03:45 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand Boris Diaw to the Jazz. :lol

NikosChelsea7
07-05-2016, 03:46 PM
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raybies
07-05-2016, 03:46 PM
Please get something back like one of there young prospects or a pick

Ron Swanson
07-05-2016, 03:46 PM
Det core

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 03:46 PM
750430215961210880

Robz4000
07-05-2016, 03:46 PM
Great fit for him. Det core gonna knock the Spurs out of the playoffs.

K...
07-05-2016, 03:47 PM
Seriously, fuck Parker and his contract.

Feeling them emotions today?

K...
07-05-2016, 03:48 PM
Diaw for gobert right? Tell me I'm right?! !

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 03:48 PM
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raybies
07-05-2016, 03:48 PM
We're getting hanlan

Robz4000
07-05-2016, 03:49 PM
Feeling them emotions today?

I hate feeling

timtonymanu
07-05-2016, 03:49 PM
750430990380728321

boo

Robz4000
07-05-2016, 03:49 PM
Who the fuck is Hanlan?

TheGoldStandard
07-05-2016, 03:49 PM
Lol.. Hanlan and not a future pick.. boo but okay

peacemaker885
07-05-2016, 03:50 PM
WTF is happening. Its actually just getting funny.

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 03:50 PM
We're getting hanlan

Didnt he jus play last night against Spurs summer league??

Hoops Czar
07-05-2016, 03:50 PM
750430990380728321

They gave him away alright. :lol

palangi
07-05-2016, 03:51 PM
Hanlan is a 6'4" PG from Boston College.

raybies
07-05-2016, 03:51 PM
I just don't know why we are getting so many guards when we already have three. They must see Murray as a two right now. That would leave an opening at the backup 1. Either way Hanlan is probably switching teams immediately and will play over seas this year. I liked him last year.

raybies
07-05-2016, 03:52 PM
Didnt he jus play last night against Spurs summer league??

Yeah, he did alright too.

slick'81
07-05-2016, 03:52 PM
Not even a fucking pick but another scrub who wont ever come over

montgod
07-05-2016, 03:54 PM
He played against the Spurs last night in summer league

https://statsdmz.nba.com/pdfs/20160704/20160704_SASUTA.pdf

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 03:55 PM
Jazz quitely puttin together sumthing

Nathan89
07-05-2016, 03:55 PM
Watch West not look like a TOSB when he plays the Spurs. :lol

He won't because he'll just be shooting open shots, setting screens, and passing the ball. It's easy to succeed in that role.

NikosChelsea7
07-05-2016, 03:55 PM
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TheMulletMan3000
07-05-2016, 03:56 PM
He played against the Spurs last night in summer league

https://statsdmz.nba.com/pdfs/20160704/20160704_SASUTA.pdf

Jesus, at least they could give us Tibor

Hoops Czar
07-05-2016, 03:56 PM
Spurstalk doesn't get you like I get you R.C., well done! http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/bad/drunk-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/)

Dancelot
07-05-2016, 03:56 PM
Going to the Dubs?
:lol

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 03:56 PM
Spurs worked out with Hanlan in the pre draft process last season.

Nathan89
07-05-2016, 03:57 PM
They upgraded from Varejao and Speights by adding Pachulia and West..all they need is somebody to give them some rim protection to replace the Bogut/Ezeli duo and it's over..

It's already over. It's never been more over before a season even started.

slick'81
07-05-2016, 03:58 PM
Lmao manu money affecting talks