Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[Kawhitstorm]

Parsons ends up in a random destination, if he doesn't go to the Lakers IMO..somewhere like Washington or Denver..

Supposedly he wants to sign w/ Orlando.

[Kawhitstorm]

Spurs can probably get Boursosis and Terrance Jones for the same price of Gasol (12-15 mil). Give me Boursosis and T. Jones, please. Love Jones' skill set, size, length, agility, age -- he'd be a nice piece moving forward w/ Leonard/Aldridge/Green.

He would be a great practice partner for LMA.:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Knicks going after anyone and everyone.

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Rose/Gordon were high-school teammates.

[tonight...you]

He would be a great practice partner for LMA.:lol
Ooh... nice.

[loveforthegame]

Midnight can't get here soon enough. It would be nice to hear the Spurs called someone other than digging in the international bargain bin.

Not expecting a splash of any kind but something than what we've heard thus far.

[SAGirl]

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Exactly what I expected from the very beginning. Out of topic for me as a spur fan but I liked OKC this past season. Its an interesting team that has developed around him and Russ. The argument could be made that if Russ leaves next season, they could get someone else to play alongside KD anyways. Maybe even improve.

[spurtech09]

Midnight can't get here soon enough. It would be nice to hear the Spurs called someone other than digging in the international bargain bin.

Not expecting a splash of any kind but something than what we've heard thus far.Getting ready for the Spurstalk meltdown thread to blow up .....

[SAGirl]

It'd be an awful decision for him to leave OKC. You don't leave a contender. One title in OKC will feel better than 4 with GSW.
Agreed. As a strict fan of basketball, not spurfan, he should stay. Think of Nowitzki, just the one championship but I bet he would not change that for anything.

[tbdog]

We are not inking any deals until after Durant decides. There really isn't anyone we want, and any upgrades will have to come from trading Diaw/Mills etc.

[loveforthegame]

Getting ready for the Spurstalk meltdown thread to blow up .....

It's always more exciting than what the Spurs do. :lol

I think most here all ready know not to expect anything though.

[Ron Swanson]

Where is Tspence with the goods?

[spurtech09]

Give us something Tspence?

[K...]

Where is Tspence with the goods?


Give us something Tspence?

Ia gasol coming? Only one man knows!

[Jdspur20]

I hope Whiteside does go to the Mavs and I hope they max him. He's overrated.

[DPG21920]

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[SAGirl]

Windhorst and Zach Lowe had a podcast today, both mentioned that the Spurs are probably a long shot for Durant, but that there will be a long list of suitors for Danny Green if they have to trade him(many teams are going to be waiting on the sidelines, rather than spending money, and waiting for castoffs from teams shedding salary for the bigger names like Durant)..
Maybe if they strike, Spurs move to the bargain bin hunt too.

[Keepin' it real]

Concern starting to grow in Dallas that Dirk might actually leave. Since he is simpatico with taking less money, would he consider joining (from Dallas perspective) the darkside in SA, where taking less than your worth is the norm?

[tholdren]

Concern starting to grow in Dallas that Dirk might actually leave. Since he is simpatico with taking less money, would he consider joining (from Dallas perspective) the darkside in SA, where taking less than your worth is the norm?no one is worried

[Kindergarten Cop]

Concern starting to grow in Dallas that Dirk might actually leave. Since he is simpatico with taking less money, would he consider joining (from Dallas perspective) the darkside in SA, where taking less than your worth is the norm?

Where did you see/hear this? Dirk leaving Dallas would be like Duncan leaving the Spurs - I couldn't imagine either scenario. Wade on the other hand, I find it hard to believe but not impossible to envision him in another uniform.

[SAGirl]

A few interesting names:

Cleanthony Early: A lot of spurstalkers were bummed when the Spurs drafted Kyle instead of him. Can the Spurs help him find his game? I never saw him play in the NBA the past couple of years. Was he that bad?

Bryce Cotton: Small but explosive. Like Patty 1.5

Ian Clark/James McAdoo: Those are two Warriors being cleared to make a run at KD, right? Didn't Clark have some bright spots this season?
The only one of those I like is Ian Clark.
Bryce is a tiny gunner like Patty but without his hustle.
Early? Scrub.
McAdoo is similar to LJC in size, athleticism and lack of an offensive game. He would be redundant with LJC. Here's a nice writeup on McAdoo: http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2016/6/28/12047902/nba-free-agency-2016-golden-state-warriors-season-review-james-michael-mcadoo

A power forward by trade, McAdoo actually lined up as a center slightly more often this season, per basketball-reference (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcadoja01.html) (47% to 45%). The Warriors (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/golden-state-warriors) rarely deploy 'two-towers' lineups (those featuring any combination of Bogut, Anderson Varejao (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21848/anderson-varejao), Festus Ezeli (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/157921/festus-ezeli) orMarreese Speights (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/35093/marreese-speights)), so when McAdoo manned the anchor position, he did it without seven-foot backup.One theory: he's being groomed to be Draymond Green's (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/157923/draymond-green) defensive backup. McAdoo is much taller than Green, but features plus-mobility for his size, a gigantic 7'2" wingspan, a strong vertical leap, and he's wide enough to hold his own at a muscular 230 pounds. Today, McAdoo is one of just two Warriors who even have the potential to defend power forwards and switch onto guards -- and that makes his continued defensive improvement vital.
Offensively, he hasn't shown much, yet. He takes around 90% of his field goal attempts within 3-feet for his career, and looks like a power forward whenever he's dribbling the ball. A three-point shot is far too much to ask, right now. The Warriors would likely settle for a more assertive rebounder (McAdoo was the worst forward or center rebounder on the team by defensive rebounding percentage -- and that group includes Andre Iguodala (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21587/andre-iguodala), Brandon Rush (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/35075/brandon-rush) and Harrison Barnes).
But it's tough to get too critical (or too excited) about McAdoo's truncated season. He played just 262 minutes across 41 regular season games, and often found his way on to the court when the game was already decided.

[coachmac87]

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I'm assuming this is where the 90% statement came from. Seems like KD told them if they get Horford its a wrap. OKC will be able to move Kanter pretty easily and expect it done around midnight. It'll boil down to Horford taking less or resigning 5yr Max in Atlana

[cutewizard]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/here-are-10-free-agents-perfectly-suited-for-modern-nba/

[cutewizard]

When Bazemore came into the league with the Golden State Warriors, he was seen as a combo guard. After DeMarre Carroll's departure, the Hawks asked him to start at small forward. He thrived in that role, improved his jump shot and battled bigger players. No longer just a raw athlete, Bazemore is one of the best role players around and he still has upside as a playmaker. He'll be one of the most sought-after free agents on the market. (More on Bazemore (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/once-clinging-to-an-nba-job-hawks-kent-bazemore-is-about-to-get-paid/).)

[cutewizard]

Once seen as a bust because he was selected second overall in the 2005 draft, Williams found his niche after leaving Atlanta and becoming a stretch 4. In Charlotte, he had a career season at the best possible time, shooting 40 percent from deep while rebounding and blocking shots better than ever before. Williams is not regarded as an elite athlete, but he's capable of switching onto quick guards andthrowing down a huge dunk (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25538964/watch-marvin-williams-dunks-on-carl-landry-hornets-lose-minds) every once in a while. His playmaking skills aren't on the level of Draymond Green, but he plays a similar role and almost never turns the ball over.

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HOPE WE CAN GET THIS GUY!

[Jdspur20]

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From an offensive standpoint this would be good for them, but wouldn't they be giving up a good defense and rebounds with Kanter? Isn't Horford a bad defender and not really that great of a rebounder?

That's why they were so solid down low with the Adams/Kanter combo

[SAGirl]

Cleanthony had knee surgery and then soon after got shot in the knee on an attempted robbery. His career is most likely done tbh unlucky
ohh I had forgotten that about him. Too bad. Now I kind of wish him the best.

[Kindergarten Cop]

From an offensive standpoint this would be good for them, but wouldn't they be giving up a good defense and rebounds with Kanter? Isn't Horford a bad defender and not really that great of a rebounder?

That's why they were so solid down low with the Adams/Kanter combo

Horford is a much more balanced player than Kanter. Kanter is a liability on defense, despite the height advantage that he'd have over Horford. I REALLY hope that they aren't able to land Horford, because it will certainly make our road back to the top that much more difficult.

[HarlemHeat37]

From an offensive standpoint this would be good for them, but wouldn't they be giving up a good defense and rebounds with Kanter? Isn't Horford a bad defender and not really that great of a rebounder?

That's why they were so solid down low with the Adams/Kanter combo

Horford is a very solid defensive player, tbh..he's a legit 2-way player..

It would essentially allow them to completely replace Ibaka, while adding Oladipo..huge move..

[Nathan89]

Once seen as a bust because he was selected second overall in the 2005 draft, Williams found his niche after leaving Atlanta and becoming a stretch 4. In Charlotte, he had a career season at the best possible time, shooting 40 percent from deep while rebounding and blocking shots better than ever before. Williams is not regarded as an elite athlete, but he's capable of switching onto quick guards andthrowing down a huge dunk (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25538964/watch-marvin-williams-dunks-on-carl-landry-hornets-lose-minds) every once in a while. His playmaking skills aren't on the level of Draymond Green, but he plays a similar role and almost never turns the ball over.

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HOPE WE CAN GET THIS GUY!

Draymond is very overrated playmaker. Klay and Curry are great off ball players.

Don't get your hopes up. Spurs aren't going to pay Bazemore. They won't spend or look for value elsewhere.

[cutewizard]

if Durant does not come to us, then we should get Pau Gasol, Ekpe Udoh, and Marvin Williams, and lets call it an offseason, hmmmmmp

[Nathan89]

From an offensive standpoint this would be good for them, but wouldn't they be giving up a good defense and rebounds with Kanter? Isn't Horford a bad defender and not really that great of a rebounder?

That's why they were so solid down low with the Adams/Kanter combo

Kanter isn't known for his defense. He might be able to guard LMA better than Horford but Horford's greater mobility will be more useful against every other team.

[cutewizard]

this year, we shall have two promising players,

our point guard of the future, Murray,

and Davis Bertans, who i think could be a tremendous back up small forward in the Spurs system....

[DPG21920]

From an offensive standpoint this would be good for them, but wouldn't they be giving up a good defense and rebounds with Kanter? Isn't Horford a bad defender and not really that great of a rebounder?

That's why they were so solid down low with the Adams/Kanter combo

Horford is not quite as good offensively as Kanter, but still very good. However, Horford is light years better defensively. Horford/Adams is so much better than Kanter/Adams IMO.

[HarlemHeat37]

Horford as an individual doesn't change that much against the Spurs, since Ibaka generally kills them, but he'll help them against everybody else..

[DPG21920]

Cheese. And. Crackers.

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[Chinook]

Horford is a very solid defensive player, tbh..he's a legit 2-way player..

It would essentially allow them to completely replace Ibaka, while adding Oladipo..huge move..

They replace Ibaka but lose Kanter. That pretty much negates their size advantage. No one should be scared of Horford dominating the glass. And their bench bigs look as shaky as the Spurs' guys last year. If Boban is going to be a rotation player, he's going to eat well. And they are also losing Roberson in the SL. So now Durant almost HAS to guard Leonard primarily. That combined with the fact that Oladipo is going to have quite the adjustment going from chucker to fourth banana means I'm not worried yet. And they're likely going to have to cut Ilyasova to make the numbers work, so there really isn't even a chance of having a random big go off from three anymore.

[Blizzardwizard]

BREAKING: Kevin Durant has made a verbal agreement to sign with the San Antonio Spurs, (source: TSpence).

[TheGreatYacht]

ohh I had forgotten that about him. Too bad. Now I kind of wish him the best.
I was one of his biggest supporters on here, damn I was wrong about that one... :lol

[cutewizard]

BREAKING: Kevin Durant has made a verbal agreement to sign with the San Antonio Spurs, (source: TSpence).

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even a whisper in the universe such as this could bring a smile

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you know what, JON SNOW would be a better addition to the Spurs!! lol

:bobo

[Kindergarten Cop]

if Durant does not come to us, then we should get Pau Gasol, Ekpe Udoh, and Marvin Williams, and lets call it an offseason, hmmmmmp

I think I've discovered someone with more optimism than me. ;) We'd be lucky to be able to land and afford one of those three, let alone all three.

[DPG21920]

If Presti pulls this off, GM of the year. Not only that, but at least on paper OKC would be the favorites to win it all (especially if they get any sort of get vet tag along).

Westbrook/Roberson/Durant/Adams/Horford to start

Payne/Dipo/Sabonis/Ersan + whomever else they sign on bench is a tremendous team. Bench is a question marks, but having a young and decently talented 6th man in Dipo helps that.

[HarlemHeat37]

They replace Ibaka but lose Kanter. That pretty much negates their size advantage. No one should be scared of Horford dominating the glass. And their bench bigs look as shaky as the Spurs' guys last year. If Boban is going to be a rotation player, he's going to eat well. And they are also losing Roberson in the SL. So now Durant almost HAS to guard Leonard primarily. That combined with the fact that Oladipo is going to have quite the adjustment going from chucker to fourth banana means I'm not worried yet. And they're likely going to have to cut Ilyasova to make the numbers work, so there really isn't even a chance of having a random big go off from three anymore.

I don't think it changes much vs. the Spurs, as I said earlier, but I like the move vs. other teams..IIRC, Kanter got benched in the Warriors series, Donovan had no confidence playing him..

OKC wasn't as good as they appeared to be in the playoffs IMO, they received a ton of breaks(2 game-changing calls vs. the Spurs, Roberson having literally the best stretch of shooting in his NBA career, Curry playing on 1 leg, etc), I don't think they could have won a title with their previous roster..

They needed to make high-risk/high-reward moves like getting Oladipo as another creator IMO..I wouldn't replace Roberson in the SL, though, I'd go with Oladipo in the Waiters role..

I think they got worse if they don't get somebody like Horford to help their D, though..Adams isn't a rim-protector, nor is he a special defender..

[Kindergarten Cop]

If Presti pulls this off, GM of the year. Not only that, but at least on paper OKC would be the favorites to win it all.

Westbrook/Roberson/Durant/Adams/Horford to start

Payne/Dipo/Sabonis/Ersan + whomever else they sign on bench is a tremendous team. Bench is a question marks, but having a young and decently talented 6th man in Dipo helps that.

The reports that I had heard required them trading Ersan along with Kanter to clear space, but I agree that that is still an amazingly scary lineup.

[DPG21920]

I don't think it changes much vs. the Spurs, as I said earlier, but I like the move vs. other teams..

OKC wasn't as good as they appeared to be in the playoffs IMO, they received a ton of breaks(2 game-changing calls vs. the Spurs, Roberson having literally the best stretch of shooting in his NBA career, Curry playing on 1 leg, etc), I don't think they could have won a title with their previous roster..

They needed to make high-risk/high-reward moves like getting Oladipo as another creator IMO..I wouldn't replace Roberson in the SL, though, I'd go with Oladipo in the Waiters role..

Agreed. I think Horford is better than Ibaka overall (even though Ibaka killed SA) and in order to do that they basically had to trade Kanter/Waiters for Ersan/Dipo which is worst case close enough and best case much better if Dipo develops more.

[cutewizard]

all things considered, the best offseason development in the Spurs system shall be:

the evolution of the Leonard-Aldridge partnership!

better chemistry,

better offensive strategies

better communication in defense

stronger fire and determination to win the NBA title

[coachmac87]

They replace Ibaka but lose Kanter. That pretty much negates their size advantage. No one should be scared of Horford dominating the glass. And their bench bigs look as shaky as the Spurs' guys last year. If Boban is going to be a rotation player, he's going to eat well. And they are also losing Roberson in the SL. So now Durant almost HAS to guard Leonard primarily. That combined with the fact that Oladipo is going to have quite the adjustment going from chucker to fourth banana means I'm not worried yet. And they're likely going to have to cut Ilyasova to make the numbers work, so there really isn't even a chance of having a random big go off from three anymore.


Agree 100%

[MaNu4Tres]

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Could mean Blazers will let go of Harkless if someone offers him a decent deal. Kind of figured they'd try to upgrade with the cap space they'd have. Hopefully Parsons and Blazers agree and Harkless if free for bidding.

[DPG21920]

I like Crabbe but I don't think Parson's will impact that at all.

[cutewizard]

I think I've discovered someone with more optimism than me. ;) We'd be lucky to be able to land and afford one of those three, let alone all three.


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how good is our front office man, that is the question.....

can they cover all bases, hmmmmmmm

[Jdspur20]

Horford as an individual doesn't change that much against the Spurs, since Ibaka generally kills them, but he'll help them against everybody else..

Got it, that makes more sense.

[look_at_g_shred]

Max for Beal? Good lord..

[DPG21920]

No one has anything to say about the Wiz maxing Beal :lol? I mean, I guess it's expected but c'mon.

[TheGreatYacht]

OKC losing Ibaka and Kanter (Spurs killers) to get a terrible rebounder in Horford???? Yes please :lol :wow

They'll also lose Waiters.

Is Horford, Oladipo, Ilyasova, Sabonis really better than Ibaka, Kanter, and Waiters? Eh

[Kindergarten Cop]

Max for Beal? Good lord..


No one has anything to say about the Wiz maxing Beal :lol? I mean, I guess it's expected but c'mon.

Honestly, who else are they going to get to come to the capital?

[NASpurs]

I await a new amnesty program in the next CBA negotiations with the contracts some of these dudes are going to get :lol

[look_at_g_shred]

Honestly, who else are they going to get to come to the capital?
Brooks :lol

[DPG21920]

If OKC does have to cut Ersan in addition to trading Kanter, then I agree - that puts them on shakier ground.

The SL will still be damn good and end of games they will have options with Roberson or Dipo playing with WB/KD/Horford/Adams, but that bench will have holes.

However, having one pretty talented 6th man can make up for a lot of that. Having Ersan on the bench would be really big, but that's the risk OKC is taking. Horford upgrades over Ibaka and they risk that Dipo can bring more overall than Kanter to the team.

[Nathan89]

Horford makes them much better vs GSW. Any of the small-forwards can guard Ibaka. Hell Ibaka can be guarded by Klay and Curry. So it will make switches significantly more difficult. Also playing Draymond at the 5 becomes significantly less favorable for GSW. OKC will have a big lineup and a small lineup to matchup with them.

[DPG21920]

OKC losing Ibaka and Kanter (Spurs killers) to get a terrible rebounder in Horford???? Yes please :lol :wow

They'll also lose Waiters.

Is Horford, Oladipo, Ilyasova, Sabonis really better than Ibaka, Kanter, and Waiters? Eh

Waiters sucks and having 2 good series doesn't change that. He went right back to the mean vs GS. He had a terrible regular season this year and because of 10 games people think he's special. Playoffs have that effect though.

Horford > Ibaka
Oladipo > Waiters
Ersan/Sabonis ? Kanter. Probably worse, but there's upside there with Sabonis.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Brooks :lol

Honestly, how bad does THAT decision look now?!?!?

[Chinook]

I don't think it changes much vs. the Spurs, as I said earlier, but I like the move vs. other teams..IIRC, Kanter got benched in the Warriors series, Donovan had no confidence playing him..

OKC wasn't as good as they appeared to be in the playoffs IMO, they received a ton of breaks(2 game-changing calls vs. the Spurs, Roberson having literally the best stretch of shooting in his NBA career, Curry playing on 1 leg, etc), I don't think they could have won a title with their previous roster..

They needed to make high-risk/high-reward moves like getting Oladipo as another creator IMO..I wouldn't replace Roberson in the SL, though, I'd go with Oladipo in the Waiters role..

I think they got worse if they don't get somebody like Horford to help their D, though..Adams isn't a rim-protector, nor is he a special defender..

If the Spurs get Gasol, they're going to ram the ball down the Thunders' throats. As of right now, they are relying on Sabonis to be their third big with probably a healthy dose of Durant at the four. I wouldn't be surprised it the Ibaka trade is what encouraged the Spurs to keep Diaw. KD at PF against the Spurs' second unit is death for the Thunder.

I'd go as far as to say that OKC is weaker if they move Kanter and Ilyasova to get Horford. I think they'll be a more consistently good team, and I think Gasol would be better managed having a solid defender in Horford. But I also think they're very exploitable, and they are relying on young guys stepping up, which isn't a given. If GS makes any large roster sacrifice to match OKC, I do think the Spurs have an obvious window if they can keep their roster together.

[TheGreatYacht]

Waiters sucks and having 2 good series doesn't change that. He went right back to the mean vs GS. He had a terrible regular season this year and because of 10 games people think he's special. Playoffs have that effect though.

Horford > Ibaka
Oladipo > Waiters
Ersan/Sabonis ? Kanter. Probably worse, but there's upside there with Sabonis.
Horford is one of the most underperforming bigs in recent history, check his stats. The strength they had against the Spurs will be gone which was crashing the boards and rim protecting. As much crap as Kanter gets for his defense, he's actually a good post defender. Oladipo will take shots away from Russ and Kevin, unlike Waiters who killed us as a spot up shooter. Like Chinook said, Ersan will have to be moved.

Presti might pull off another robbery for Kanter + Ilyasova, but as the roster stands.. They don't match up well against us IMO

[TheGreatYacht]

Woj's show has started y'all. Said OKC believes they'll keep him, and if he does leave then GSW are the favorites with the Clippers second

[NASpurs]

Woj saying that the two teams other than OKC with the best chance to convince Durant to join them are the Warriors and the Clippers

[siraulo23]

Per Woj:

Other than OKC, the warriors then the clippers have a shot of landing him

[cutewizard]

everyone maxing everyone, thats just great......

omg

[siraulo23]

^^ :lol

[SAGirl]

It sounds as if I'm in the minority here, but I'm fairly confident we're right in the Championship mix with a few minor tweaks. Is it just me - or did most of the people here forget that the Spurs won more games last season than they had ever won before? Combine that with the fact that it took more than a third of the season for Aldridge to adjust to his role on the team. If not for an injury to Aldridge's shooting hand and horrendous officiating, it's not out of the realm of possibility to say that we could have advanced and pushed the Warriors in the WCF - and perhaps made it to the NBA Finals.

I realize that I may be a bit naive and perhaps a tad overly optimistic, but one would surmise that the Spurs had barely made the playoffs and were on the verge of being a lottery team if they were just going by the posts of most of people here. I refuse to believe that the sky is falling if Durant does not sign in SA (which was a long shot in the first place).
Definitely a lot of doomsaying in here. I am with you. I tend to think we were one roleplayer away from making out of there. Just too many guys not showing up, most of them, save one, proven veterans, so it was unfortunate. We strengthen up even one of those spots and we make it out.

[cutewizard]

how the fuck are the fucking Clippers suddenly in the picture?

what the...............................??????

[NASpurs]

https://t.co/92ODzkxByS

If you want to watch the Woj stream

[TheGreatYacht]

If KD goes to Golden State, Spurs are going to have to drop Parker and max Conley out.

Curry <--- Conley
Thompson <--- Green
Durant <--- Leonard

[T Park]

For a guy who said it would be a basketball decision, Woj listed nothing but non basketball stuff.

Shocking.

[NASpurs]

http://hoopshype.com/2016/05/14/nba-free-agency-2017-the-top-players/

That list looks so much better than the shitty free agent class this year. Spurs might punt this year on free agents.

[tonight...you]

http://hoopshype.com/2016/05/14/nba-free-agency-2017-the-top-players/

That list looks so much better than the shitty free agent class this year. Spurs might punt this year on free agents.
I think they should and RC diving deep into Europe may signal he's thinking the same.
We'll see.

[DPG21920]

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[Keepin' it real]

how the fuck are the fucking Clippers suddenly in the picture?

what the...............................??????

They play in the same building as KD's idol, Kome.

[tonight...you]

For a guy who said it would be a basketball decision, Woj listed nothing but non basketball stuff.

Shocking.
Woj is regurgitating what he's being told, as he always does.
He's trusting somebody, obviously to be making these statements.

[tonight...you]

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I would rather see the creeky Don Quixote here on a "cheaper" contract. Especially if Tim is riding off into the sunset.

[Mugen]

Spurs really need to save it for next offseason. Really underwhelming pool of FAs tbh.

[NASpurs]

I think they should and RC diving deep into Europe may signal he's thinking the same.
We'll see.

Seems like it. The International Spurs are back! I wonder how many countries will be represented this year.

[Emperor]

how the fuck are the fucking Clippers suddenly in the picture?

what the...............................??????

*gasps* omg you said the "f" word lol.

[Kindergarten Cop]

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I REALLY hope that Nate Duncan is correct with his prediction.

[Nathan89]

If KD goes to Golden State, Spurs are going to have to drop Parker and max Conley out.

Curry <--- Conley
Thompson <--- Green
Durant <--- Leonard

If KD went to GSW the Spurs are fucked. Good thing he's not going there.

[NASpurs]

lol sneaker talk

[GSH]

About 10 minutes and we're going to start seeing some announcements. I'm expecting heads to explode from some of the numbers.

[RD2191]

What time zone does free agency start at?

[Nathan89]

OKC is worried about GSW and Cavs not the Spurs. Getting better against the bigger threats is most important.

[NASpurs]

What time zone does free agency start at?

In 4 minutes according to Yahoo

[Kindergarten Cop]

What time zone does free agency start at?

All of them. ;)

12 EST (11 CST)

[GSH]

What time zone does free agency start at?

East. And it's about to light up, I think. Might be worth staying up another hour.

[DPG21920]

About 10 minutes and we're going to start seeing some announcements. I'm expecting heads to explode from some of the numbers.

:lol It's going to be great. This is going to be bad for people who instantly react...people need to give this time to set in before reacting, but it's going to be so hard.

[GSH]

:lol It's going to be great. This is going to be bad for people who instantly react...people need to give this time to set in before reacting, but it's going to be so hard.

Yeah, it's kind of sick but I'm actually looking forward to the reactions as much as the early announcements.

[DPG21920]

What time zone does free agency start at?

Eastern.

[RD2191]

Thanks for the info fellas. Guess I'm making coffee.

[Ron Swanson]

Here we go, folks.

[DPG21920]

:lmao News already coming in here at Vertical. Literally first 4 seconds.

[Uriel]

First call should be to Pau Gasol.

[TheGoldStandard]

Excited to see expensive ridiculous deals. Spurs won't make a splash till like day 3.. Gasol phone call probably gets made tomorrow or saturday.

[NASpurs]

Must feel like Christmas for some of these average assholes tonight. About to get (over)paaaaaid

[Uriel]

Can we put this thread on auto-refresh?

[YGWHI]

For real Woj? Clippers?

Kevin Pelton sounds more realistic


Clippers: Bad long-term play
Of the six teams that have reportedly set up meetings with Durant, only the Clippers don't have a path to sign him outright using cap space. The Clippers would need to work a sign-and-trade to bring Durant to Los Angeles, and my projections have them sending Oklahoma (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/oklahoma.htm) native Blake Griffin (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3989/blake-griffin) to the Thunder in return.
Because the Clippers would be giving up one of their stars, their 2016-17 projection doesn't call for huge improvement: about 62 wins, which would be a franchise record but would have been good for only third in the West in 2015-16.
Alas, 62 wins looks like the high-water mark. Acquiring Durant and re-signing Chris Paul (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2779/chris-paul) when he can opt out of his contract next summer would exhaust the Clippers' cap space and lock them into an aging core with few avenues for improvement. The star power on the roster and the allure of L.A. would surely help the Clippers sign ring-chasing free agents, but those players would also likely be in their 30s, making it difficult to build sustainable success.
As a result, my projections suggest the Clippers dipping to 56 wins in 2017-18 and dropping to 52 wins the following season -- one fewer than they actually won in 2015-16.

[RD2191]

:wakeup

[NASpurs]

The Austin Rivers dream is dying

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[GSH]

:lmao News already coming in here at Vertical. Literally first 4 seconds.


Heh. Bazemore's camp announcing a 12:01 meeting. Oh, man, there's going to be some cliff-jumping tonight.

[dabom]

If KD goes to Golden State, Spurs are going to have to drop Parker and max Conley out.

Curry <--- Conley
Thompson <--- Green
Durant <--- Leonard

You are a Spurs fan. Sorry for doubting you. :toast

[SpursFan86]

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If these teams are our main competition, I like our chances.

[Ron Swanson]

Must feel like Christmas for some of these average assholes tonight. About to get (over)paaaaaid


No shit. These contracts are going to be stupid.

[cutewizard]

If KD went to GSW the Spurs are fucked. Good thing he's not going there.

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everyone fucking our beloved Spurs lately

Clippers, who dethroned us

Warriors, who put fear into us,

OKC, who obliterated us,

and the Cavs,

even teams such as Portland can beat the hell out of us in good nights

next year, Davis' Pelicans and Towns' Wolves are going to rip us apart.

bottomline, THE SPURS NEED TO EVOLVE!

[NASpurs]

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:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao that contract

[DPG21920]

Danny 10M and Baze up to 17+M :lol

[DPG21920]

4 years for Noah. YES FA !!!

[NASpurs]

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[MaNu4Tres]

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Love Nate, but with Noah getting 4/70, Gasols' value SHOULD be 15-18 mil IMO. I don't think there's anyway Gasol settles for anything less than 10-12 mil per.

[DPG21920]

"I hate it" :lmao

[Ron Swanson]

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:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao that contract

Knicks will get maybe 20 games with their full lineup. :lol

[Nathan89]

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If these teams are our main competition, I like our chances.

Yeah, that'd be great. Wolves like them vets though so he might go there for a nice paycheck.

[GSH]

Cuban offered Whiteside a max deal at the opening buzzer, and trying to get a deal done by tomorrow? Here comes the big man feeding frenzy.

[NASpurs]

Knicks will get maybe 20 games with their full lineup. :lol

Fucking loser franchise still being a loser even with all the changes at the front office. :lol

[TheGoldStandard]

Dallas and Whiteside, Noah, lol... Beal... you can't write better comedies

[siraulo23]

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[Nathan89]

"Just do the math guys these players aren't being overpaid.":lmao

[montgod]

Wonder if Boban gets renounced if Mozgov was signed?

[AFBlue]

So LMA will be a part of the Spurs pitch. Makes sense.

[Uriel]

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[Ron Swanson]

Cuban offered Whiteside a max deal at the opening buzzer, and trying to get a deal done by tomorrow? Here comes the big man feeding frenzy.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/michael-jordan-laugh.gif

[NASpurs]

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Where's Timmy? :lol

And Woj saying that Kawhi probably won't be there because Kawhi has a personal arrangement.

[NASpurs]

"You get 18 mil a year, you get 18 mil a year, you get 18 mil a year!"

"Everyone, check under your seats! You all get 18 mil a year!"

[siraulo23]

dunno ^

thats weak, bring david robinson, timmy and kawhi :lol

[SpursFan86]

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Kent Fucking Bazemore going to be making more than Kawhi :lmao

[Nathan89]

Cuban just trying to get a new Dust Chip tbh imho

[dabom]

"You get 18 mil a year, you get 18 mil a year, you get 18 mil a year!"

"Everyone, check under your seats! You all get 18 mil a year!"

:lol

[Nathan89]

"You get 18 mil a year, you get 18 mil a year, you get 18 mil a year!"

"Everyone, check under your seats! You all get 18 mil a year!"
:lmao

[NASpurs]

dunno ^

thats weak, bring david robinson, timmy and kawhi :lol

Durant is going to tell the Spurs to get the fuck out of the room once he hears LMA's 10th "Ya know" in a row.

[RD2191]

This shit is ridiculous. Fuckin scrubs making more than MVPs.

[cd021]

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Outside of his terrible season he has been a solid player, I like him.

[Ron Swanson]

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Kent Fucking Bazemore going to be making more than Kawhi :lmao


I don't even

[TheGoldStandard]

This is why there should be a hard cap in place..

[MaNu4Tres]

Man, talk about great timing. The Spurs being able to sign Green, Kawhi and Aldridge last year on 4 and 5 (Kawhi) year deals is incredible.

[siraulo23]

Durant is going to tell the Spurs to get the fuck out of the room once he hears LMA's 10th "Ya know" in a row.

they cant sell shit to durant, what culture? aldridge been there for 1 yr :lol

[siraulo23]

Man, talk about great timing. The Spurs being able to sign Green, Kawhi and Aldridge last year on 4 and 5 (Kawhi) year deals is incredible.

bargain deals

[DPG21920]

Where's Timmy? :lol

And Woj saying that Kawhi probably won't be there because Kawhi has a personal arrangement.

I get no TP/Boris - they are overseas. But no Tim or Kawhi? SA doesn't seem to be taking things too seriously here :lol. Is Kawhi having his child this weekend?

Kind of odd, but maybe SA is thinking just keep it low key when everyone else is bringing the entire franchise.

[GSH]

This shit is ridiculous. Fuckin scrubs making more than MVPs.


It hasn't been that long since Kent Bazemore was shuffling to the D-League, and he's going to be making $19-20M? Steph Curry is going to be making $12M. I understand old contracts, but that's totally upside-down.

[AFBlue]

Where's Timmy? :lol

And Woj saying that Kawhi probably won't be there because Kawhi has a personal arrangement.

It was reported earlier that he would be there. Just because he wasn't explicitly called out this time, doesn't mean he'll be on the sideline for the pitch. I'm guessing the posse will end up being pretty large.

[Nathan89]

Sure, the money is eye popping, in many respects, but it's also irrelevant since it's all based on revenue generated and percentage of cap. It's not like they're pulling these numbers out of thin air.:lol

[NASpurs]

they cant sell shit to durant, what culture? aldridge been there for 1 yr :lol

I don't know, those two have a connection at playing at UT. Whatever helps :lol

Plus it would help Durant have Aldridge's opinion hearing LMA's transition into the Spurs I bet.

[sasaint]

This is why there should be a hard cap in place..

The NBA should have phased in the cap increases. These giant leaps will inevitably lead to some TURRIBLE economic situations for teams. Can a hard cap be far off?

[NASpurs]

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[DPG21920]

I can see SA taking a flier on Ben Mclemore

[Kindergarten Cop]

Talk of Dion Waiters signing a $14-15M offer sheet with the Kings? If you're OKC, what do you do? Do you really consider matching that?

[Robz4000]

:lmao this shit is ridiculous

[GSH]

The NBA should have phased in the cap increases. These giant leaps will inevitably lead to some TURRIBLE economic situations for teams. Can a hard cap be far off?

Yep. To make things worse, guys already know that it's going up a lot next year. They don't want to sign a contract this year that will look small by next year's standards. So they all think they deserve the max slice of team cap space. I'm thinking there just may not be enough money left to over-pay some mid-tier guys, and they may get salaries more in line with last season.

[NASpurs]

:lol today's NBA

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol these contracts

RC da god giving us that bargain Parker contract :worthy:

[SpursFan86]

These giant leaps will inevitably lead to some TURRIBLE economic situations for teams. Can a hard cap be far off?

Like TD21 said, they didn't just pull these cap numbers out of thin air. There's a reason why the cap went up - league revenue is higher than it's ever been. It's not like teams are being forced to pay guys more without making more money themselves. Have you seen some of these TV deals? These teams are making an absolute shit ton of money.

[cutewizard]

Actually, LMA attending the Great Durant Courtship Ritual makes sense.

He is going to communicate to Durant the ease with which he acclimatized to the Spurs system, among other things.

This obviously means the Spurs are serious courtiers. The courtship of Durant has a Game of Thrones feel to it, hahahahaha.

[Nathan89]

I can see SA taking a flier on Ben Mclemore

I'd be in favor of that. Spurs need an athletic guard.

[GSH]

I can see SA taking a flier on Ben Mclemore


Guys like Mclemore and James Ennis start looking like much better gambles. The amount you have to commit is just so small. And if one of them steps up like Bazemore, it's a real home run.

[AFBlue]

Bradley effing Beal is going to average more than $25M per year. Good gracious. And these contracts are fully guaranteed? Monopoly money. Unreal.

[TheGoldStandard]

Then these owners are going to go to the table and say they're losing money and need help etc.. lol..

[cutewizard]

Wilt Chamberlain is furious in his grave, with all these near max deals.

Wilt would destroy all these jokers, lol.

[NASpurs]

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[DPG21920]

Guys like Mclemore and James Ennis start looking like much better gambles. The amount you have to commit is just so small. And if one of them steps up like Bazemore, it's a real home run.

Exactly. If SAC blows big money on Waiters (:lol) then I would try hard to pry him away.

[GSH]

:lol these contracts

RC da god giving us that bargain Parker contract :worthy:


Are you seeing how many sportswriters got fooled by fake twitter accounts? Don't believe everything you read tonight. A lot of them having to eat crow.

[NASpurs]

Woj saying the Lakers are discussing a 4 yr/$65 mil contract for Mozgov.

[Kindergarten Cop]

According to Woj, Lakers are nearing a 4yr/$65M deal with Mozgov. Wow!!!

[MaNu4Tres]

Guys like Mclemore and James Ennis start looking like much better gambles. The amount you have to commit is just so small. And if one of them steps up like Bazemore, it's a real home run.

Where do they play? Spurs are loaded at wing as it is. It's their most loaded position. Why use assets to keep stock-piling?

They usually only go 5-6 deep at the wing.

Kawhi/Green -- Manu (maybe) /Simmons/Anderson/Bertans/LJC (combo more of a PF)/ Murray (combo more of a PG). That's 7-8 guys on the roster who can play the SF or SG, even though LJC is a PF/Murray a PG first.

[Ron Swanson]

Woj saying the Lakers are discussing a 4 yr/$65 mil contract for Mozgov.


There goes any interest from us. Holy shit!

[GSH]

Exactly. If SAC blows big money on Waiters (:lol) then I would try hard to pry him away.


I don't know if you saw Ennis at the end of the season, but that bastard just lit it up. It was such a small sample, but he could really be a steal.

[HarlemHeat37]

NFL players already hated NBA players for their contracts in the past..they're going to be livid after this off-season:lol

[sasaint]

Yep. To make things worse, guys already know that it's going up a lot next year. They don't want to sign a contract this year that will look small by next year's standards. So they all think they deserve the max slice of team cap space. I'm thinking there just may not be enough money left to over-pay some mid-tier guys, and they may get salaries more in line with last season.

The Spurs should have (and perhaps they still will) concentrate on trades not free agents - if only they can be less Spursy in their loyalties. There is much greater value in acquiring an existing contract (especially one that still has 3 years remaining) than in overpaying a free agent. The Durant meeting is a head scratcher. Perhaps both sides are going through the motions because each earns a little cache from being on the other's list.

[NASpurs]

I'm not surprised it's the real shit teams that are handing out these ridiculous contracts starting off. Gotta pay up for free agents to come to some of these teams.

[TheGreatYacht]

Lakers :lmao

Thought they were getting KD, Whiteside, DeFrozan, Horford, etc

got Mozgov

[SpursFan86]

Holy shit...at this point I'm thinking it'll be a fucking miracle if Boban accepts the MLE :lmao

[Nathan89]

Woj saying the Lakers are discussing a 4 yr/$65 mil contract for Mozgov.

Oh, I thought he was missing out on a ton of money by not getting his contract after last season. Shit the bed all year and get paid.

[Kindergarten Cop]

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[DPG21920]

Parsons for 90M or so? :lmao Mavs dodged a bullet. If healthy, he upgrades them but I just don't see how you pay someone that much that doesn't make you a contender or from a non-playoff team to a good playoff team.

[MaNu4Tres]

The Spurs should have (and perhaps they still will) concentrate on trades not free agents - if only they can be less Spursy in their loyalties. There is much greater value in acquiring an existing contract (especially one that still has 3 years remaining) than in overpaying a free agent. The Durant meeting is a head scratcher. Perhaps both sides are going through the motions because each earns a little cache from being on the other's list.

1. Who says the Spurs didn't try to make a trade for the past month? Just because a trade doesn't happen, doesn't mean the Spurs didn't try. I don't get why fans can't understand this. The past 2 weeks on Twitter, you hear fans complain that Spurs aren't doing anything -- when in reality I'm sure R.C and the FO took and made several calls to try to make a deal happen.


2. Teams are not overpaying -- they are paying them correct value based on the new rising cap. It's a new era, get used to it.

[Nathan89]

In before Boban gets an $65mil for 4 years.

[NASpurs]

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[DPG21920]

Of course Parson's wanted to be courted and "be the man and top priority". It's not enough to get the damn money, cater to me even though I've done nothing and every team I leave hates me :lol

[GSH]

Where do they play? Spurs are loaded at wing as it is. It's their most loaded position. Why use assets to keep stock-piling?

They usually only go 5-6 deep at the wing.

Kawhi/Green -- Manu (maybe) /Simmons/Anderson/Bertans/LJC (combo more of a PF)/ Murray (combo more of a PG). That's 7-8 guys on the roster who can play the SF or SG, even though LJC is a PF/Murray a PG first.


I know, roster spots are a problem. You just see some guys that could make tremendous trade bait next year, if nothing else. I keep thinking that the crazy spending at the top end is going to make for some real bargains at the bottom, if you can pick the gems.

If you're talking about guys padding stats on bad teams - Ennis has shown that he can knock down 3's. That translates anywhere, if he can keep it up. A couple of seasons ago, he shot something like .450 from the 3, and those last games in NO he shot almost .500. Imagine if Chip can help him be consistent, and do it for a whole season.

But, yeah... roster spots.

[HarlemHeat37]

Of course Parson's wanted to be courted and "be the man and top priority". It's not enough to get the damn money, cater to me even though I've done nothing and every team I leave hates me :lol

He's a White American player in 2016..needs to get whatever attention and money he can, tbh:lol

[NASpurs]

:lol never change Broussard

[Ron Swanson]

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Multiple sources

[MaNu4Tres]

Of course Parson's wanted to be courted and "be the man and top priority". It's not enough to get the damn money, cater to me even though I've done nothing and every team I leave hates me :lol

He's a fraud. Not a fan of Parsons at all. He had one great year and that's it.

No way Portland keeps Harkless and Crabbe now. Especially with having to pay CJ and Mason next summer.

[NASpurs]

Multiple sources

You know that guy, Brandon. Multiple Sources have said Brandon.

[sasaint]

Like TD21 said, they didn't just pull these cap numbers out of thin air. There's a reason why the cap went up - league revenue is higher than it's ever been. It's not like teams are being forced to pay guys more without making more money themselves. Have you seen some of these TV deals? These teams are making an absolute shit ton of money.

Well sure the revenue is going up, but the leap in the cap will lead to some very expensive blunders that have the potential of creating a whole class of bad teams that are burdened by very bad contracts.

[HarlemHeat37]

Portland going full small-ball: Lillard-McCollum-Parsons-Aminu-Plumlee

2 White Americans starting in 2016:wow

[Nathan89]

Kyle Singler looking like quite the bargain these days.

[tav1]

+1 on this. Ennis is solid. At least get him into camp.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kyle Singler looking like quite the bargain these days.
:vomit:

[Kindergarten Cop]

Multiple sources

:lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

Kyle Singler looking like quite the bargain these days.

:lol Wouldn't go that far.

[sasaint]

1. Who says the Spurs didn't try to make a trade for the past month? Just because a trade doesn't happen, doesn't mean the Spurs didn't try. I don't get why fans can't understand this. The past 2 weeks on Twitter, you hear fans complain that Spurs aren't doing anything -- when in reality I'm sure R.C and the FO took and made several calls to try to make a deal happen.


2. Teams are not overpaying -- they are paying them correct value based on the new rising cap. It's a new era, get used to it.

1. I never said that.

2. I don't have to get used to anything - not my money. But it is the equivalent of a guy who has been in Vegas playing black jack at the $10 table suddenly moving over to the $50 table. Mistakes will be disproportionately risky until everything has time to cycle, and the true superstars all have a place at the table.

[DPG21920]

He's a fraud. Not a fan of Parsons at all. He had one great year and that's it.

No way Portland keeps Harkless and Crabbe now. Especially with having to pay CJ and Mason next summer.

I think they keep Crabbe for sure (IMO) but others may go now if Parson chooses them. He may get an offer from another team as well to choose from.

[GSH]

2. Teams are not overpaying -- they are paying them correct value based on the new rising cap. It's a new era, get used to it.


If the rumor is true, Chandler Parsons will be getting something like 22% of the cap. That's the equivalent of about 15.5M last season. It's looking like Bazemore may get the equivalent of around $14-14.5M, in last year's money? Were those two guys worth that much last season? Maybe you think so - I don't.

[Holden_Caulfield]

Lol scrubs getting paid

[DPG21920]

1. Who says the Spurs didn't try to make a trade for the past month? Just because a trade doesn't happen, doesn't mean the Spurs didn't try. I don't get why fans can't understand this. The past 2 weeks on Twitter, you hear fans complain that Spurs aren't doing anything -- when in reality I'm sure R.C and the FO took and made several calls to try to make a deal happen.


2. Teams are not overpaying -- they are paying them correct value based on the new rising cap. It's a new era, get used to it.

Nah - paying Noah and Mozgov this money is overpaying :lol

[TheGoldStandard]

Nah - paying Noah and Mozgov this money is overpaying :lol

The two worst teams making terrible decisions.

[Kindergarten Cop]

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[loveforthegame]

Spurs are feverishly working on getting Bonner to agree to a deal before another team tries to pry him away.

[TheGreatYacht]

:pop: is feverishly working on getting Bonner to agree to a deal before another team tries to pry him away.

[dabom]

Spurs are feverishly working on getting Bonner to agree to a deal before another team tries to pry him away.

80MIL/4year. :lol

[MaNu4Tres]

Nah - paying Noah and Mozgov this money is overpaying :lol

You don't think they are taking next years 110 mil cap into consideration w/ the discussions? I think its almost irresponsibly for agents and gms to not take that into consideration. Teams are able to offer the right % based on those projections because they have so much space to do it now.

[NASpurs]

Woj said Lin's market is $12-$14 mil range

[Nathan89]

Not sure of all the free agents last year but if the Spurs could've cleared some space for two $15mil contracts instead of LMA that would've been great.

[GSH]

In before Boban gets an $65mil for 4 years.


He's not going to get that. But I've been telling you - the way OKC handled GSW (for the first 4 games anyway) is going to set off a big man feeding frenzy. For all the talk about "today's NBA", teams got reminded of the value of having beasts in the middle.

I may have to eat crow, but I still think people are going to be scratching their heads over the contracts offered to some of these big men.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Woj said Lin's market is $12-$14 mil range

Woj

EDIT: Nevermind, I read your post above as "who" but realize that it was likely autocorrected form Woj (my bad)

[NASpurs]

Spurs are feverishly working on getting Bonner to agree to a deal before another team tries to pry him away.

If Poop could give him a lifelong contract, he would.

[Nathan89]

He's not going to get that. But I've been telling you - the way OKC handled GSW (for the first 4 games anyway) is going to set off a big man feeding frenzy. For all the talk about "today's NBA", teams got reminded of the value of having beasts in the middle.

I may have to eat crow, but I still think people are going to be scratching their heads over the contracts offered to some of these big men.

These other bigs aren't going to be switching onto Curry.

[NASpurs]

Woj

Yeah that was autocorrect

[NASpurs]

Amnesty everyone

[siraulo23]

if the rockets sign bazemore :lol

backup sg to harden making almost the same money :lmao

[DPG21920]

You don't think they are taking next years 110 mil cap into consideration w/ the discussions? I think its almost irresponsibly for agents and gms to not take that into consideration. Teams are able to offer the right % based on those projections because they have so much space to do it now.

I'm sure they are. That doesn't by default mean every contract handed out is good or paying the right amount. The players have to fit, perform well as starters and make it that many years (or at least play good enough for you to trade them if you need to without giving up assets to do so).

What we don't know is if these contracts have team options which would change things some.

[DPG21920]

He's not going to get that. But I've been telling you - the way OKC handled GSW (for the first 4 games anyway) is going to set off a big man feeding frenzy. For all the talk about "today's NBA", teams got reminded of the value of having beasts in the middle.

I may have to eat crow, but I still think people are going to be scratching their heads over the contracts offered to some of these big men.

Nah - that's pretty safe. Noah and Mozgov are 2nd and 3rd tier bigs and look at their deals.

[Nathan89]

Not sure how long the revenue will continue to go up because cordcutters and what not but if it continues to grow the NBA will just get utterly absurd. The pie is so large and compared to other sports there aren't many people eating. I mean it will be comparable to the cap over time but these are real world numbers and they are entering the level absurd already.

[Kindergarten Cop]

I'm praying that someone (Philly?) offers Harrison Barnes a max offer sheet.

[dabom]

Not sure how long the revenue will continue to go up because cordcutters and what not but if it continues to grow the NBA will just get utterly absurd. The pie is so large and compared to other sports there aren't many people eating. I mean it will be comparable to the cap over time but these are real world numbers and they are entering the level absurd already.

Tony contract still look like shit ..

[TheGreatYacht]

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[GSH]

Haha.... The Cauldron just tweeting a quote from Pop:

"I'm not calling anyone at midnight. I'll be in bed. And if that's the difference, then I don't want them."

[Nathan89]

I'm praying that someone (Philly?) offers Harrison Barnes a max offer sheet.

That would be a great contract for Philly to offer give Barnes age, the number of years it will take to develop Philly picks, and the fact that they have to spend money. They can either waste money on players that will be in their 30's by the time the 76ers are ready or spend it on Barnes who will be in his prime by the time a max contract ends. At which time he can resign on a contract that reflects his actual worth.

[Ron Swanson]

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:lmao

[NASpurs]

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[dabom]

Haha.... The Cauldron just tweeting a quote from Pop:

"I'm not calling anyone at midnight. I'll be in bed. And if that's the difference, then I don't want them."
GSH is a little bitch but lol.

[SpursFan86]

If Mozgov makes $16 million, that will be 17% of the team's cap. For comparison, 17% of last year's cap was just under $12 million...so that's sort of the "equivalent contract" adjusting for the increase in cap.

Still pretty terrible :lol

[Nathan89]

:lol People thought Cory Joseph, Baynes, and Aminu were overpaid last year. Fucking bargains.

[NASpurs]

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[TheGoldStandard]

Parsons averaged like 14 points last season, lol 96 mil

[Nathan89]

If Mozgov makes $16 million, that will be 17% of the team's cap. For comparison, 17% of last year's cap was just under $12 million...so that's sort of the "equivalent contract" adjusting for the increase in cap.

Still pretty terrible :lol

Mozgov wasn't worth $12mil. He was worth $5-7mil. Dude is a bum since his injury.

[Nathan89]

If I'm Danny Green I'm going to my agents house and shooting him in the head.

[DPG21920]

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[NASpurs]

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[Mugen]

748745960516227072 :lol

[NASpurs]

Parsons averaged like 14 points last season, lol 96 mil

That's about 25% of the cap :lmao

[Nathan89]

Spurs probably called Mozgov with a huge low-ball offer:lmao

[TheGoldStandard]

Lakers keep throwing tires soaked in gasoline on their dumpster fire of an organization

[TheGoldStandard]

That's about 25% of the cap :lmao

Blazers gonna blaze.. Looks like that front office is smoking too much of the green up there

[Kindergarten Cop]

That's about 25% of the cap :lmao

Are you insinuating that he isn't worth that?

[Nathan89]

The great thing about the Spurs coming back with the same squad is not seeing one of these awful contracts on the books.

[siraulo23]

That's about 25% of the cap :lmao
1/4 of their cap to a role player :lmao

[GSH]

GSH is a little bitch but lol.


Heh. We still aren't taking any showers together. :D

I'm going to sleep now. I wanted to see people pulling their hair out over the opening bell news. I got my fix. Now to wait. It's like the tortoise and hare thing. The Spurs will be plodding along, just like they always do.

The more I watch this, the more convinced that there are going to be some (relative) bargains to be had, after the obvious guys get their too-large share of the cap. That's sort of the Spurs' style, anyway. Other than Durant, there was nobody in this FA class worthy of mortgaging the future for. Hopefully they are going to cherry-pick from the ones that don't sign right away, and do what they always do.

[NASpurs]

Under the old CBA, fucking Parsons is like a $12 mil player max and I'm trying to be generous taking into account all of his injuries.

[TheGreatYacht]

No matter what the fuck happens, I'm sure Lamarcus is glad he left that dumpster fire :lmao

[Nathan89]

Even 26yo Thon Maker on rookie contract has better value than some of these deals.

[GSH]

One more thing - I saw an article saying that if Durant signs a 1-year deal this season, and then a max deal next year under the bigger cap, he'll make an extra $25M or something like that, overall. I'm too tired to go look for the exact number, but the amount of money it adds to his career earnings is insane.

Now... where is he most likely to sign a deal like that?

[Kindergarten Cop]

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[MaNu4Tres]

Lakers making Mosgov their starting center giving him 65 million , or 14.5 % of next yrs cap ( not bad) when cap rises again to 108-110 million.

Agents & GMs would be irresponsible to not take that into consideration.

[Kindergarten Cop]

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[DPG21920]

That's about 25% of the cap :lmao

Like M4T was saying though, everyone knows the cap is jumping again next year. So these GM's are looking at what these contracts will be with regards to % of the cap next year, not this upcoming one. It's subtle, and doesn't mean these contracts are good, but it's important to remember that.

It's 25% of this year's cap but that's no biggie since they have a ton of money. Next year when the cap jumps that % will shrink.

But I hate Parson's and he's never proven to be worth any max, any time despite getting it twice (his team's hate him after and let him go).

[Kindergarten Cop]

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