2020 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

[TFloss32]

1156922570949742592

[TFloss32]

1155885790930583552

[TFloss32]

1156927576432095233

[TFloss32]

1156957711046721536

[TFloss32]

1156909417838915590

[TFloss32]

1156752354257121283

[TFloss32]

Roach with the CB this morning.

An Oklahoma 24/7 mod also has Hester to UT.

[TFloss32]

This is thought to be about WR Demond Demas transferring from Houston North Forest to Tomball.

1156693668436336641

[TFloss32]

1156986612582010880
1156955703657082880
1156955245345431553

[TFloss32]

CB Dominick Hill (Orlando, FL)

1156960560212316160
https://247sports.com/player/dominick-hill-46038448/

[TFloss32]

2021 WR Shadrach Banks of Galena Park North Shore to A&M.

https://247sports.com/Player/Shadrach-Banks-46052770/

[Harvey88210]

2021 WR Shadrach Banks of Galena Park North Shore to A&M.

https://247sports.com/Player/Shadrach-Banks-46052770/

Good get for them. They better tighten up and not suck this year or decommit season is going to be long and painful.

[TheMex]

Gonna be a great LB for them.

[Vito Corleone]

A Texas team finally breaks the North Shore streak. Good for the aggys.

[TFloss32]

1156997311710605312

[TFloss32]

1156996223921844226

[Harvey88210]

1157013595676430336

[Harvey88210]

1157023268248936448

so Saturday at 2:00

[Vito Corleone]

1157023268248936448

so Saturday at 2:00

Did I just lose a day? I'm pretty sure tomorrow is Friday. :tongue

[TFloss32]

1157023268248936448

so Saturday at 2:00

Tomorrow.

[TFloss32]

Five people have put in Texas picks this week on Rivals for 2021 LB Derrick Harris, Jr. of New Caney.

https://247sports.com/Player/Derrick-Harris-Jr-46078940/

[Dennis the Menace]

Because Surly is a shit show right now with new users running rampant I’ll ask here - any movement on crystal balls for Thompson?

[TFloss32]

1157037041667850246

[TFloss32]

Because Surly is a shit show right now with new users running rampant I’ll ask here - any movement on crystal balls for Thompson?

No movement at all.

Two days to go.

[Hook Em 88]

Five people have put in Texas picks this week on Rivals for 2021 LB Derrick Harris, Jr. of New Caney.

https://247sports.com/Player/Derrick-Harris-Jr-46078940/

Is it known when he will announce?

[Harvey88210]

Did I just lose a day? I'm pretty sure tomorrow is Friday. :tongue

Nope, I gained a day. My fault, today is my Friday.

[irvin88]

Milroe said we're getting a linebacker soon.

[Harvey88210]

Milroe said we're getting a linebacker soon.

Thats the Derrick Harris note on previous page. Safe to assume it’s him.

[Harvey88210]

Does anyone know when/if there will be an open practice?

[TFloss32]

1157021843250917376

[TFloss32]

1157029836063432704

[TFloss32]

Is it known when he will announce?

No set date for Harris, Jr.

[irvin88]

Roach put in a pick for DHJ. Roach is pretty conservative so I consider this really good news.

1157096806142136321

[Hook Em 88]

Roach put in a pick for DHJ. Roach is pretty conservative so I consider this really good news.

1157096806142136321

Call it the Milroe effect! Crazy how all this class seems to know each other well or connected some how. I recall him being super blown away by the commitment of Billy Bowman but he’s been watching closely since Milroe committee.

[Hook Em 88]

Committed^^^

[TFloss32]

Roach from 24/7 has changed his crystal ball on 2021 RB Camar Wheaton of Garland Lakeview Centennial to foggy.

He said losing Samples hurt the most with Wheaton and a "totally unexpected" school is making a lot of progress with him.

https://247sports.com/Player/Camar-Wheaton-46050152/

[TFloss32]

Per The Football Brainiacs, there is another 2021 prospect that wants to commit in the near future.

The only hint they gave is he would make an already strong position group at Texas stronger.

[TFloss32]

My first Texas game.

1157089960169787392

[TFloss32]

1157006069446643714

[TFloss32]

1156982172558995463

[TFloss32]

1157101520170749953
1157087720394694656

[TFloss32]

1156966383483269121

[pgardn]

Oh God here comes the injury list.

Tom?

Can we please refrain from killing each other.
We check the color of our pee and then take each other's heads off?
Please lets think this through.

[irvin88]

Roach from 24/7 has changed his crystal ball on 2021 RB Camar Wheaton of Garland Lakeview Centennial to foggy.

He said losing Samples hurt the most with Wheaton and a "totally unexpected" school is making a lot of progress with him.

https://247sports.com/Player/Camar-Wheaton-46050152/

JMO, but I think this kid Wheaton is better than Evans.

[TheMex]

With all the drama that Evans brings, I feel like any five star RB is better.

[Vito Corleone]

Wheaton is a Jamal Charles Clone at this point in respective careers. He just needs a crease and he is gone. He has some crazy speed. His announcement is 2 years away we have a lot of time to both win him and lose him. I personally think Samples will be back by the time he is a senior.

[TFloss32]

Per Inside Texas this morning, things haven't turned in Auburn's favor for S Chris Thompson, Jr. of Duncanville and they aren't hearing anything that would make them come off of their Texas prediction.

[TFloss32]

Inside Texas saying don't be surprised if CB Jahari Rogers of Arlington High shows up on campus in the near future.

[rjv]

2021 WR Shadrach Banks of Galena Park North Shore to A&M.

https://247sports.com/Player/Shadrach-Banks-46052770/


that breaks a very long drought in regards to signing recruits from north shore.

[rjv]

Good get for them. They better tighten up and not suck this year or decommit season is going to be long and painful.

with the schedule that a&m has, and most of the tougher games on the road, i would not be surprised with a 7-5 season. the key is whether or not the commits can be convinced that the team is on the right path, should this be more or less how a&m fares this season. and that's not an easy task in the cases of some players.

[TFloss32]

1157296695484583936

[TFloss32]

1157268052225998848

[leemajors]

My first Texas game.

1157089960169787392

I was there in the student section :tu

[TFloss32]

I was there in the student section :tu

As young as I was, I remember being in the upper deck thinking "there's no fu**ing way he's making this kick" and it just got over.

[TFloss32]

1157341593508208643

[TFloss32]

Not much to report since it's just helmets today, but OrangeBloods singled out WR Jake Smith saying he's such a natural at anything he does and really fast.

He was working punt return today too.

[TFloss32]

Per Inside Texas this morning, things haven't turned in Auburn's favor for S Chris Thompson, Jr. of Duncanville and they aren't hearing anything that would make them come off of their Texas prediction.

Rivals posted an article today saying Thompson, Jr. should be picking Texas on Sunday.

[bluetrumpet]

Is Bijans commitment on twitter, IG, or any media? I'm just sitting here watching the clock tick

[Ballin42]

Bijan to Texas!!

[TFloss32]

BIJAAAAN!

[TFloss32]

B0rCwHdnr1v

[Juan Grande]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA_LrLiUIAAEDZ-.jpg

[ColinB]

http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/1guRIRFV5gN4ikrUakg/giphy.gif

[Juan Grande]

Interview on his decision

https://youtu.be/rwq8Mfe8mgs

[TFloss32]

1157367118146494464

[TFloss32]

1157366010632179713

[TFloss32]

1157375055837519872

[TFloss32]

1157370506812596224

[TFloss32]

1157366937552396288

[TFloss32]

Just thought the timing of this tweet was hilarious with Bijan choosing Texas instead of Ohio State right after it was published.

1157371431510056960

[Trill Clinton]

B0rCwHdnr1v

https://media.giphy.com/media/5z2cV4tWz04P4BQj9Z/giphy.gif

[TFloss32]

From Angulo on 24/7:

"Bijan got caught up in the Ohio State buzz and hype, with Lathan Ransom leaning there and him thinking that could be his destination as well. He told me it took him some time to drown out the noise and get back to focusing on what he wanted in a school and Texas checked off more boxes. He felt pressure from Ohio State to commit. He didn't feel as much pressure from Texas. Sometimes it's as simple as that for recruits that are more low-key than others."

[TFloss32]

1157387057800630273

[pgardn]

1157370506812596224



I wish I could smile a big and as nice as Bijan does.

Thats the stuff boys!

[pgardn]

Just thought the timing of this tweet was hilarious with Bijan choosing Texas instead of Ohio State right after it was published.

1157371431510056960

Herman at a breast bar incoming.
While you skunks lied like a hard seed.
Maybe their NEW coach can come counsel.
Hook em.

[Hook Em 88]

Ringo quoted Bijans tweet with a Hook Em after his commitment. Hope this gets us back in the game.

[TFloss32]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biwcgGDCKaQ

[TFloss32]

1157388402867744769

[Hook Em 88]

1157388402867744769

this is not realistic is it? Aren’t all the DE options spots booked?

[ColinB]

1157384502446088192

[TFloss32]

Inside Texas hinting at a silent commitment.

[TFloss32]

this is not realistic is it? Aren’t all the DE options spots booked?

Only if the staff wants a fourth.

Collins' spot is reserved.

[Hook Em 88]

Inside Texas hinting at a silent commitment.

Someone not named Thompson Jr? Who would you think Floss?

[TFloss32]

Someone not named Thompson Jr? Who would you think Floss?

Seems like 2021 LB Derrick Harris, Jr. of New Caney is close.

[Dennis the Menace]

Let’s give Tim Beck a raise for QB development and lights out recruiting. Thanks.

[TFloss32]

1157473082950467585

[TFloss32]

Let’s give Tim Beck a raise for QB development and lights out recruiting. Thanks.

His Arizona connections have been big.

[Dennis the Menace]

His Arizona connections have been big.

If him, Westbrook, Washington, Naivar, and Carrington are able to snag Ringo... oh my. Get them and their wives/significant others brand new cars.

Maybe his mom could find career advancement at Southwest

[TFloss32]

2021 WR Mario Williams (Plant City, FL)

1157424110395412480
https://247sports.com/player/mario-williams-46058910/

https://www.hudl.com/profile/9613801/Mario-Williams

[TFloss32]

OL Jake Majors (Prosper) and 2021 CB Billy Bowman (Denton Ryan)

1157427458850902019

[TFloss32]

1157436169501593600

[TFloss32]

1157370290017570816

[TFloss32]

If anyone is still wondering if UT has a shot with five-star LB Justin Flowe...

1157337669958959105

[TFloss32]

1157393384081936386

[TFloss32]

Seems like 2021 LB Derrick Harris, Jr. of New Caney is close.

1157503723003940864

[TFloss32]

1157380717405511680

[TFloss32]

1157375978622148613

[TFloss32]

The Footballl Brainiacs are hearing that DE Princely Umanmielen of Manor is trending back towards Texas.

He visited A&M for their recruiting event last weekend, and they said it didn't go well.

https://247sports.com/player/princely-umanmielen-46046991/

[Jbug]

The Footballl Brainiacs are hearing that DE Princely Umanmielen of Manor is trending back towards Texas.

He visited A&M for their recruiting event last weekend, and they said it didn't go well.

https://247sports.com/player/princely-umanmielen-46046991/

Interesting development. I'm all for stacking the DL.

[Vito Corleone]

Clean sweeping the top Dline recruits would shut up a local poster who was predicting nothing but 2'stars for Texas because of Giles. As long as we get Collins I'm a happy tail gater.

Just a few months ago, I had 3 guys I really wanted, that I felt were must gets. Broughton, Robinson, and Ringo. Amazing job by the staff getting Robinson and Broughton. If they can pull in Ringo, man o man this going to be a fantastic class.

Justin Flowe has a top 4 and Texas isn't in it. With that said, there is always room for a 5th visit, get Texas into the top 4 for a playoff spot and we might get that 5th visit. BOMC will not let us down.

[TFloss32]

1157682323128770561

[TFloss32]

1157720303964999680

[TFloss32]

1157720894745325569

[bluetrumpet]

Nice get! This class is looking stacked...sad to think it’s going to have to slow down soon

[TFloss32]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyhtuYLL-c0

[TFloss32]

1157728087397867521

[Vito Corleone]

Anyone have any Must have guys in the 2021 class? For me the must haves are: Savion Byrd, Tommy and James Brockermeyer, and Camar Wheaton.

[Jbug]

Anyone have any Must have guys in the 2021 class? For me the must haves are: Savion Byrd, Tommy and James Brockermeyer, and Camar Wheaton.

Need to keep stock piling the DL. Adeleye and Jordan Thomas.

Pleasant Grove duo probably not happening.

[Jbug]

Clean sweeping the top Dline recruits would shut up a local poster who was predicting nothing but 2'stars for Texas because of Giles.

He'll just bring up Demas, Jones, or something else to tell us the sky is falling, Herman is doomed, SEC!, Jimbo, yada yada, same ol' "scared to death" Mack Brown talk.

[TFloss32]

1157739947908112384

[TFloss32]

1157746528926281728

[TFloss32]

2021 RB Brandon Campbell (Pearland)

1157750090259415041
https://247sports.com/Player/Brandon-Campbell-46058435/

[TFloss32]

1157774001147645953

[TFloss32]

1157789396399038465

[TFloss32]

1157767438374756354

[TFloss32]

1157438044498251776
1157713198549745665
1157816245913378817
1157822399490011142

[TFloss32]

1157771088128020480

[bluetrumpet]

D’Onta foreman places on waivers due to work ethics :/

[TFloss32]

24/7 sticking with their Texas prediction for S Chris Thompson, Jr..

[pgardn]

1157746528926281728

If we get Eaton, then my string of a dream for Ringo is surely broken?
But... we might PO some Ags as a peripheral delight?

[TFloss32]

24/7 sticking with their Texas prediction for S Chris Thompson, Jr..

Auburn 24/7 thinks it will be Texas too.

[TFloss32]

1157821086651654144

[texbound]

Well that is a bit of a shock. CTJ to Auburn.

[TFloss32]

Well that is a bit of a shock. CTJ to Auburn.

Man, pay sites whiffed hard.

Even Auburn guys.

[Hook Em 88]

Man, pay sites whiffed hard.

So do we go after Josh Eaton now?

[shyne]

I bet they go hard after Jackson now with Thompson helping them recruit.

[TFloss32]

24/7 confirmed the rumor Thompson, Jr. had previously filmed a commitment video to Texas, so putting the decision off was the tell it'd be Auburn.

[Hook Em 88]

Samples leaving hurt more than they had imagined. Lose out on Rogers and now Thompson Jr. No doubt he woulda been ours had Samples stayed. Maybe he’ll leave the door open for a visit down the road.

[Dennis the Menace]

Auburn is going to suck again this year

[Kype]

Sucks to not get him, but I have faith in the staff collectively. Let us get guys that want to be here.

[TFloss32]

So do we go after Josh Eaton now?

Different positions, but this could possibly make the staff re-adjust their DB board based on who's available.

I believe they're trying to keep Eaton warm as long as possible, and they were able to get him off his commitment timeline.

[Vito Corleone]

That did sting, I just signed in to see the commitment of Thompson and this happens. Didn't see it coming. We shall see what happens now with JQJ. That would suck to have the Dallas door shut on us like that.

[texas4ever]

Well hell. Recruiting is a never ending cycle of your guess is as good as mine. It just made way too much sense it would be Texas. We all know what probably happened here and it wasn’t because of academics. When Gus gets canned we can circle back around to him, if Texas wants him.

[pgardn]

Dammit.

Curses to hell.

We had some mo and got slapped.

[Vito Corleone]

The University of Texas needs to understand the game is changing and the NCAA is looking away more and more. LSU alum is going to jail for giving embezzled money to a recruit's family and the NCAA isn't lifting a finger. What does that say about the game right now?

Either Texas wants to field a winning team or they/we are going to have to be content with losing recruits to schools willing to pay them under the table.

It isn't going to stop there, it will come a time when the best coaching candidates will start to see Texas as a no win situation because of the moral standards placed on a program that exists in a game without morals or standards.

[Ballin42]

The University of Texas needs to understand the game is changing and the NCAA is looking away more and more. LSU alum is going to jail for giving embezzled money to a recruit's family and the NCAA isn't lifting a finger. What does that say about the game right now?

Either Texas wants to field a winning team or they/we are going to have to be content with losing recruits to schools willing to pay them under the table.

It isn't going to stop there, it will come a time when the best coaching candidates will start to see Texas as a no win situation because of the moral standards placed on a program that exists in a game without morals or standards.

You really think that Texas alums don’t do this AKA $100 hand shakes. I highly doubt a top 3 coaching job will one day become a no win situation due to “high” moral standards.

[texas4ever]

1158121012527030272

[texas4ever]

1158159302705721344

[TFloss32]

Days Until College Football

http://hookemreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Earl-Campbell.jpg

[TFloss32]

Per OrangeBloods, RB Derrian Brown will be in Austin on August 28th for classes.

[TFloss32]

1157777756718899200

[TFloss32]

1158125705047302144

[TFloss32]

1158059036601978880

[TFloss32]

1157718917994823681

[pgardn]

You really think that Texas alums don’t do this AKA $100 hand shakes. I highly doubt a top 3 coaching job will one day become a no win situation due to “high” moral standards.

what players have claimed this?

Link(s).

[Vito Corleone]

You really think that Texas alums don’t do this AKA $100 hand shakes. I highly doubt a top 3 coaching job will one day become a no win situation due to “high” moral standards.

Keep in mind, $100 hand shakes are not the same as buying recruits. Yes, I know we have Alum giving out the $100 hand shakes. What we don't have is Alumni sending recruits envelopes with Thousands of dollars in order to get their services.

I'm not saying we should, I'm just saying that we need to get used to losing top level recruits because schools in the SEC are paying recruits like they were NFL free Agents if we don't accept that the rules aren't being enforced.

[pgardn]

Keep in mind, $100 hand shakes are not the same as buying recruits. Yes, I know we have Alum giving out the $100 hand shakes. What we don't have is Alumni sending recruits envelopes with Thousands of dollars in order to get their services.

I'm not saying we should, I'm just saying that we need to get used to losing top level recruits because schools in the SEC are paying recruits like they were NFL free Agents if we don't accept that the rules aren't being enforced.

Link to players who have said this.
And under what coach.
I really would like to know.

[Ballin42]

what players have claimed this?

Link(s).


https://youtu.be/ejuIF_MgBHI
most publicly Chris Sims

[TFloss32]

A few sites noted that LB Jeffrey McCulloch was absent from practice today, but The Football Brainiacs were able to confirm he was sick and it's nothing serious.

[pgardn]

https://youtu.be/ejuIF_MgBHI
most publicly Chris Sims

Thanks.

I remember that now.
We gave him shit he did not deserve imo.
I think he was cocky but the fans treated him very poorly.
He was a kid at that time.

So he has good reason to tell on our "boosters" or lie.

[Vito Corleone]

Link to players who have said this.
And under what coach.
I really would like to know.

I've known college football players from the 80's and early 90's that have told me about the 100 dollar hand shakes. Not just at Texas but at places like Clemson, Louisiana tech, Utah, A&M, and Texas state. The Texas guys were under McWilliams and Mackovic.

Don't kid yourself, this stuff doesn't happen by the big guys like Red, it is the small guys with lots of money and the need to stroke their ego by hanging with football players at mixers. Think about it.

I worked with a guy that played linebacker at Notre Dame, he never made it in the NFL, but he told me that he would go to these after game mixers and if he made a big tackle he knew he was going to have guys handing him hundreds of dollars. He said one game he made several big plays and that night he got over $4800 just from congrats by alumni.

If you don't think those things happen at Texas, you are fooling yourself.

[pgardn]

I've known college football players from the 80's and early 90's that have told me about the 100 dollar hand shakes. Not just at Texas but at places like Clemson, Louisiana tech, Utah, A&M, and Texas state. The Texas guys were under McWilliams and Mackovic.

Don't kid yourself, this stuff doesn't happen by the big guys like Red, it is the small guys with lots of money and the need to stroke their ego by hanging with football players at mixers. Think about it.

I worked with a guy that played linebacker at Notre Dame, he never made it in the NFL, but he told me that he would go to these after game mixers and if he made a big tackle he knew he was going to have guys handing him hundreds of dollars. He said one game he made several big plays and that night he got over $4800 just from congrats by alumni.

If you don't think those things happen at Texas, you are fooling yourself.

I want it on record. Not anecdotal.
Come out and say who did when, where, why, how much etc...
Also I thought they implemented rules about these events that got alumni and kids together.
So when this happens now, I want it up for all to see. Not just I know a guy who told me... There is a ton of bragging and embellishment that goes on in sports. From athletes as well.

And yes I believe it. I just want it talked about and written up if possible. The Straight dope. We stand behind the story. Because if we do need to cheat on the level of some of these SEC (Mississippi etc...) schools, I’m out.

The dream for me is someday we have a squad of good players that are better at other things win a national championship and turn down an NFL that has turned unpopular and less lucrative than a job not involving entertainment. I will most likely die before this happens. The sun will probably have enveloped the Earth before anything like this happens.

so yeah...

[Vito Corleone]

I want it on record. Not anecdotal.
Come out and say who did when, where, why, how much etc...
Also I thought they implemented rules about these events that got alumni and kids together.
So when this happens now, I want it up for all to see. Not just I know a guy who told me... There is a ton of bragging and embellishment that goes on in sports. From athletes as well.

And yes I believe it. I just want it talked about and written up if possible. The Straight dope. We stand behind the story. Because if we do need to cheat on the level of some of these SEC (Mississippi etc...) schools, I’m out.

The dream for me is someday we have a squad of good players that are better at other things win a national championship and turn down an NFL that has turned unpopular and less lucrative than a job not involving entertainment. I will most likely die before this happens. The sun will probably have enveloped the Earth before anything like this happens.

so yeah...

I'm sorry but these are guys I'm friends with on Facebook. I'm not going to use their names in a forum like this. Here is one I will use because I no longer have any connection with him. Ed Cunningham told me all about the money he got at these functions. Just the stories Chris Pryor has told me about his recruitment could have filled a book.

I appreciate your wanting to protect the integrity of the University, but It happened 30 years ago, and it still happens now.

Here is what I will tell you.

1 was a RB at Texas
2 were WRs at Texas
1 was a TE at Texas
1 was a DB at Texas
1 was a safety at BYU
2 played LB at Louisiana Tech
1 played C at SWT
1 played DB at SMU/Tulane
1 played DB at SMU/LSU
1 played LB at Tech
1 played LB at ND

They all have the same story.

[leemajors]

Thanks.

I remember that now.
We gave him shit he did not deserve imo.
I think he was cocky but the fans treated him very poorly.
He was a kid at that time.

So he has good reason to tell on our "boosters" or lie.

Priest Holmes and Ricky Williams both had matching decked out SUVs - leather, sun roof, etc while at UT.

[atx1985]

Ricky played minor league baseball. He earned hundreds of thousands of dollars in college.

[leemajors]

Ricky played minor league baseball. He earned hundreds of thousands of dollars in college.

Sure, single a players are paid a lot.

[SlickStreet]

Keep in mind, $100 hand shakes are not the same as buying recruits. Yes, I know we have Alum giving out the $100 hand shakes. What we don't have is Alumni sending recruits envelopes with Thousands of dollars in order to get their services.

I'm not saying we should, I'm just saying that we need to get used to losing top level recruits because schools in the SEC are paying recruits like they were NFL free Agents if we don't accept that the rules aren't being enforced.
from bits and pieces over the years, I'd say this is about right. Not saying we've never, ever bought any recruits, because that's just a little too orange-tinted a viewpoint. But I agree that by and large we simply don't operate that way.
Yet, also tend toward the notion that we at least---some boosters, some way, some time--have given the ol' "buddy handshakes" that are more than a nice word.
Seems to be human nature in this game. Football, even at the college level, from way back, has had all kinds of 'games' going on behind the scenes.

I do believe that if Texas were to play that game like some schools, say in the SEC, do, we'd be a total powerhouse and sometimes unstoppable.
I'm not advocating this: try the best we can to do it reasonably straight up and true and see what happens. However, if the landscape becomes too impure to compete effectively, then I am not necessarily closing the door on doing things like some of those other schools.

[Vito Corleone]

Sure, single a players are paid a lot.

If I remember right, Ricky signed a really good contract. It's not like he was drafted in the 184 round or something like that, according to WIKI he was an 8th round draft pick.

[Randolph Duke]

from bits and pieces over the years, I'd say this is about right. Not saying we've never, ever bought any recruits, because that's just a little too orange-tinted a viewpoint. But I agree that by and large we simply don't operate that way.
Yet, also tend toward the notion that we at least---some boosters, some way, some time--have given the ol' "buddy handshakes" that are more than a nice word.
Seems to be human nature in this game. Football, even at the college level, from way back, has had all kinds of 'games' going on behind the scenes.

I do believe that if Texas were to play that game like some schools, say in the SEC, do, we'd be a total powerhouse and sometimes unstoppable.
I'm not advocating this: try the best we can to do it reasonably straight up and true and see what happens. However, if the landscape becomes too impure to compete effectively, then I am not necessarily closing the door on doing things like some of those other schools.

The argument about cheating being accepted in the SEC is based on the fact the schools are so demographically similar and so closely located to each other. For many kids, going to school at Tennessee is no different than UGA, Fla, Auburn, etc. The schools have have different traditions, but they unquestioningly are of a monolithic culture. In order to get athletics recruits to choose one of three (or more) essentially identical options, money is introduced into the equation.

Not all schools are essentially indistinguishable from almost every other school in their conference. Texas is sufficiently different from A&M, OU, Baylor, Tech, etc, that Texas doesn't necessarily have to cheat, or cut corners in other manners. My argument has long been that A&M's differentiators act as a negative in recruiting, and therefore A&M has long had to offer inducuments such as money, not having to attend classes, no drug testing, no suspensions for arrests, etc.

There unquestionably have been some overzealous UT boosters in the past, but the differentiators of the UT Austin athletics programs are sufficient enough to sway most student-athletes who would fit well within the UT culture. If they don't get "it" and essentially want to be paid from Day 1 at UT, they are going to be more drama than they will ever be worth, and won't fit in on the UT campus.

[Juan Grande]

Priest Holmes and Ricky Williams both had matching decked out SUVs - leather, sun roof, etc while at UT.

I remember the Campbell brothers driving around in an old beater. Total junk. Might not have even been street legal.

[Harvey88210]

The argument about cheating being accepted in the SEC is based on the fact the schools are so demographically similar and so closely located to each other. For many kids, going to school at Tennessee is no different than UGA, Fla, Auburn, etc. The schools have have different traditions, but they unquestioningly are of a monolithic culture. In order to get athletics recruits to choose one of three (or more) essentially identical options, money is introduced into the equation.

Not all schools are essentially indistinguishable from almost every other school in their conference. Texas is sufficiently different from A&M, OU, Baylor, Tech, etc, that Texas doesn't necessarily have to cheat, or cut corners in other manners. My argument has long been that A&M's differentiators act as a negative in recruiting, and therefore A&M has long had to offer inducuments such as money, not having to attend classes, no drug testing, no suspensions for arrests, etc.

There unquestionably have been some overzealous UT boosters in the past, but the differentiators of the UT Austin athletics programs are sufficient enough to sway most student-athletes who would fit well within the UT culture. If they don't get "it" and essentially want to be paid from Day 1 at UT, they are going to be more drama than they will ever be worth, and won't fit in on the UT campus.

Probably most accurate. I have no idea who gets what money but Randolph is an accounting/financial guru and understands the economics of college athletics and university endowments as much as anyone. Some of the stuff he puts on twitter makes it really easy for laymen to understand. As for players receiving improper benefits/handouts, $100 handshakes don’t amount to buying cars and houses for kids or their families.

[Vito Corleone]

The argument about cheating being accepted in the SEC is based on the fact the schools are so demographically similar and so closely located to each other. For many kids, going to school at Tennessee is no different than UGA, Fla, Auburn, etc. The schools have have different traditions, but they unquestioningly are of a monolithic culture. In order to get athletics recruits to choose one of three (or more) essentially identical options, money is introduced into the equation.

Not all schools are essentially indistinguishable from almost every other school in their conference. Texas is sufficiently different from A&M, OU, Baylor, Tech, etc, that Texas doesn't necessarily have to cheat, or cut corners in other manners. My argument has long been that A&M's differentiators act as a negative in recruiting, and therefore A&M has long had to offer inducuments such as money, not having to attend classes, no drug testing, no suspensions for arrests, etc.

There unquestionably have been some overzealous UT boosters in the past, but the differentiators of the UT Austin athletics programs are sufficient enough to sway most student-athletes who would fit well within the UT culture. If they don't get "it" and essentially want to be paid from Day 1 at UT, they are going to be more drama than they will ever be worth, and won't fit in on the UT campus.

I agree 100%. I'm just saying that we have to accept the fact that other schools are doing it and know the NCAA will do nothing about it, so we are either going to have to follow suit or accept that we are going to lose recruits to schools who will offer recruits money.

[leemajors]

If I remember right, Ricky signed a really good contract. It's not like he was drafted in the 184 round or something like that, according to WIKI he was an 8th round draft pick.

I believe he played in the minors before being drafted.

[pgardn]

Thanks to all for the discussion because it needs to be discussed.
For me anyway.

If this becomes a professional sport associated with a supposed institute of higher learning, disassociate the two.
Have minor league football to get them ready for the NFL.
If not, Im finished. I will follow the intramural flag football regular season at UT.

I hate hearing my Dad talk about Royal and Akers and kids on the O-line that majored in petroleum Engineering and were very good students.

[soldierhorn]

Thanks to all for the discussion because it needs to be discussed.
For me anyway.

If this becomes a professional sport associated with a supposed institute of higher learning, disassociate the two.
Have minor league football to get them ready for the NFL.
If not, Im finished. I will follow the intramural flag football regular season at UT.
I hate hearing my Dad talk about Royal and Akers and kids on the O-line that majored in petroleum Engineering and were very good students.

I'm at this point as well. If college football lurches toward being a semi-pro league, then I'm pretty much done. I still go to the AAA baseball games in Round Rock for the entertainment but I dont follow it very much. Another thing that will cause me to lose a lot of interest is if Texas joins a conference that is half way across the country. Having a few games within driving distance (not as many as when they were in the SWC) is a way to keep local fan interest. I'm too old to get on a plane to only go watch a game when OTOH I can cram a gaggle of kids into a car and go watch a D3 game (UMHB in Belton) and have a great time.

[TFloss32]

1158356467717722113

[TFloss32]

1158404846401314817

[TFloss32]

Per Inside Texas, they believe the chances of RB Ty Jordan of West Mesquite ending up in the class are as good as they've ever been with the UT staff really picking up their pursuit.

https://247sports.com/player/ty-jordan-46049893/

[TFloss32]

1158417516538007553

[TFloss32]

1157329975487401990

[TFloss32]

1158419159774089216

[rjv]

Thanks to all for the discussion because it needs to be discussed.
For me anyway.

If this becomes a professional sport associated with a supposed institute of higher learning, disassociate the two.
Have minor league football to get them ready for the NFL.
If not, Im finished. I will follow the intramural flag football regular season at UT.

I hate hearing my Dad talk about Royal and Akers and kids on the O-line that majored in petroleum Engineering and were very good students.

that's why, for me, high school football and the tradition of friday night lights, is my personal apogee for football today. i don't even watch the NFL but for the rare occasion.

[TFloss32]

1158443367149309952
https://247sports.com/Player/Brennon-Scott-46042133/

[TFloss32]

As of today, Inside Texas has the first team OL as:

Cosmi - Braun - Shack - Okafor - Kerstetter

Kerstter and Okafor are switching back and forth as RG and RT to find the best fit.

Angilau is second team OG.

[TFloss32]

1158403022499864576

[TFloss32]

1158139164518486017

[TFloss32]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ONBLZwB4A&t=10s

[TFloss32]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6oO47kE4Pg

[pgardn]

that's why, for me, high school football and the tradition of friday night lights, is my personal apogee for football today. i don't even watch the NFL but for the rare occasion.

Perfectly understandable.
I love college football.

So I just want to know if we must cheat to keep up, Im out.

All I watch for professional football really are the Cowboys. And its a destructive thing ever since I heard they were God's team at church as a kid. It was not a joke.
So I need them to lose. Jerry Jones makes them easier to hate but its just not fun hoping a team will lose.
I just like seeing UT win. And win by playing well. If certain Aggies claim they must cheat to keep up with LSU etc... then the feedback for our state is done and Im out.

[rjv]

Perfectly understandable.
I love college football.

So I just want to know if we must cheat to keep up, Im out.

All I watch for professional football really are the Cowboys. And its a destructive thing ever since I heard they were God's team at church as a kid. It was not a joke.
So I need them to lose. Jerry Jones makes them easier to hate but its just not fun hoping a team will lose.
I just like seeing UT win. And win by playing well. If certain Aggies claim they must cheat to keep up with LSU etc... then the feedback for our state is done and Im out.

i still love college football, but i'm right there with you in regards to how i would feel if it started to trend towards being compromised even more than it has been lately. agree on the cowboys; cheering for jones is like rooting for the devil.

[TFloss32]

1158443367149309952
https://247sports.com/Player/Brennon-Scott-46042133/

24/7 reporting Texas told Scott they don't have room, and he's likely headed to Kansas.

[SlickStreet]

I remember the Campbell brothers driving around in an old beater. Total junk. Might not have even been street legal.

knew a couple that were heavily involved in UT athletics (highly popular web site, pre-game booths, fund-raisers, etc) and were great friends with Cory Redding, the Gatorade High School National Player of the Year. Redding, for all those accolades, drove around in his years at UT in a horrible jalopy, something almost dangerous to drive.

I'm not saying all of our great players in the past were like that; just that it's a high contrast to a lot of schools' top players.

[Billybass]

Thing is, I know that certain high schools hire a stud recruits dad to get him at the school. I know this happens. So even high schools not completely clean

[rjv]

Thing is, I know that certain high schools hire a stud recruits dad to get him at the school. I know this happens. So even high schools not completely clean

especially in texas. and these 'academies'.

[TFloss32]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u0KxLcXdIw

[TFloss32]

1158537459858333698

[TFloss32]

1158481234198171649

[TFloss32]

Per OrangeBloods, the first team CBs right now are D'shawn Jamison and Jalen Green.

[TFloss32]

Also from OrangeBloods, WR Devin Duvernay has been, at least temporarily, moved to the slot.

This allows the offense to have him and WR Brennan Eagles on the same side as two of the fastest guys on the team.

[TFloss32]

1158526865558126592

[pgardn]

Per OrangeBloods, the first team CBs right now are D'shawn Jamison and Jalen Green.

I think thats who Sterns mentioned as showing great promise for the coming season.
After watching the defensive guys on video, Im kinda getting some confidence if we can stay free of injury.
I hope the Overshown thing is false.

Now Im more cognizant of the LBs as a possible weakness.

[pgardn]

Also from OrangeBloods, WR Devin Duvernay has been, at least temporarily, moved to the slot.

This allows the offense to have him and WR Brennan Eagles on the same side as two of the fastest guys on the team.

Sam missed Duvernay a number of times early last year wide open.

[TFloss32]

Per 24/7, UT coaches are putting in a lot of work with S Xavion Alford of Pearland Shadow Creek.

They're hearing the Alabama buzz surrounding him at The Opening Finals at the beginning of July has faded, and Texas is hanging around.

https://247sports.com/Player/Xavion-Alford-46051445/

[woofwoof]

What did I miss on Overshown...?

[Ballin42]

Per OrangeBloods, the first team CBs right now are D'shawn Jamison and Jalen Green.


Havent heard anything from Anthony Cook. I thought he would have grabbed one of those spots

[TFloss32]

What did I miss on Overshown...?

No new injuries have been reported.

[pgardn]

What did I miss on Overshown...?

I just realized I quoted a bad source that pops up on this thread occasionally and is then deleted .
Sorry, sometimes I just read and don’t look who the poster is.

[Harvey88210]

I just realized I quoted a bad source that pops up on this thread occasionally and is then deleted .
Sorry, sometimes I just read and don’t look who the poster is.

The ignore feature is one of the best parts of this forum. Those posts don’t appear if you choose to enable that function.

[Harvey88210]

Inside Texas 4th and 5 Podcast notes:


Hosts: Will Baizer, Joe Cook


Link to podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hornscast/id1087725144#episodeGuid=hornscast.podbean.com%2F4 th-and-5-football-is-here-previewing-fall-camp-and-breakdown-billy-bowman-f1bd37ede22f39f2180fc6a97eda40c7


Billy Bowman:
Super athlete. Great speed. He ran a 10.8 100m last year as sophomore. A bigger/thicker D’Shawn Jamison. Dad is a coach at Ryan (Billy Bowman Sr.) and he’s a great culture fit. (Former UT player Alex De La Torre is the OL coach at Ryan. Alex’s father is also a DE coach at Ryan and his younger brother, Kolt, is also a big OL player there.) Best fit for Billy is nickel back on defense. Teammates with top 100 prospect in the ‘21 class Ja’Tavion Sanders.


Links to Billy Bowman
Recruiting profile: 247Sports › Billy-Bowman-46048695Web resultsBilly Bowman, Ryan, Wide Receiver - 247Sports.com (https://247sports.com/Player/Billy-Bowman-46048695/)
Hudl: https://ww.hudl.com/profile/6566405/Billy-Bowman-Jr (https://ww.hudl.com/profile/6566405/Billy-Bowman-Jr)
Twitter: https://twitter.com/billy2bowman?lang=en (https://twitter.com/billy2bowman?lang=en)


This was the only recruiting portion they had. They mostly talked about the upcoming season and I didn’t include those notes because I think everyone has their own people they prefer to read and/or listen to.

[pgardn]

The ignore feature is one of the best parts of this forum. Those posts don’t appear if you choose to enable that function.

aha!

I’ve had him on ignore and then he was behaving and I took him off.
Back on, thanks for the reminder.

[TFloss32]

No practice today.

[Harvey88210]

The open post is up at TFB.

https://texas.thefootballbrainiacs.com/2019/08/open-post-tuesday-august-6th/

[rjv]

Per 24/7, UT coaches are putting in a lot of work with S Xavion Alford of Pearland Shadow Creek.

They're hearing the Alabama buzz surrounding him at The Opening Finals at the beginning of July has faded, and Texas is hanging around.

https://247sports.com/Player/Xavion-Alford-46051445/

he's a hell of a player. charlie bruce (wagner head coach) had told me how much they had to game plan for him. as well as wagner ran their version of the split T option , and as difficult as it is to defend, alford was a beast against it. not sure why bama has backed off on him. i don't know much about how he performed at the opening.

[pgardn]

he's a hell of a player. charlie bruce (wagner head coach) had told me how much they had to game plan for him. as well as wagner ran their version of the split T option , and as difficult as it is to defend, alford was a beast against it. not sure why bama has backed off on him. i don't know much about how he performed at the opening.

You absolutely nailed Caden Sterns before the hype so...

I take this as good.

[Jbug]

Zach Evans Fong'd to Georgia.

[Harvey88210]

Zach Evans Fong'd to Georgia.

Still a long way to go. It’s going to be a marathon for that kid and I’m 100% glad we don’t have to be in that race. I will say this though, no way he goes to UGA while Milton is there. I still think it’ll eventually be Bama or LSU. Great talent, but he’s not worth the drama. He’s not Adrian Peterson, no matter how hard they keep trying to make the comparison.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

What are the chances Bijan pulls a vintage 5-star move and switches commitments at the last second?

we need some TFloss updates in this bitch

[TFloss32]

1158737198562316288

[TFloss32]

What are the chances Bijan pulls a vintage 5-star move and switches commitments at the last second?

we need some TFloss updates in this bitch

Chances he flips aren't good.

[Harvey88210]

Everybody has gone kind of silent on the Jerrin Thompson recruitment. He’s supposedly just waiting for his video to be done and the last I read on IT was that it was supposed to be done no later than this week. I’d guess he’s probably the next ‘20 guy to join the class. TCU is the only other competition for him per Roach.

[Biily Ray Valentine]

Chances he flips aren't good.

Floss, I hope you're right and he seems very mature for a HS kid. Any insight as to why you think he won't flip?

[Harvey88210]

Chances he flips aren't good.

Mommas too invested for him to flip

[Harvey88210]

1158810622605320192

Texas

[TFloss32]

1158810622605320192

Texas

Good.

[Harvey88210]

1157476721802829824

Yancy McKnight is good at his job.

[TFloss32]

LB Brennon Scott of Dallas Bishop Dunne to Kansas.

https://247sports.com/Player/Brennon-Scott-46042133/

[texas4ever]

LB Brennon Scott of Dallas Bishop Dunne to Kansas.

https://247sports.com/Player/Brennon-Scott-46042133/

https://media.giphy.com/media/iAYupOdWXQy5a4nVGk/giphy.gif

[DMX7]

1158737198562316288

Is that a regional cover or national cover?

[SlickStreet]

Is that a regional cover or national cover?
someone on IT noted it's a regional cover. Maybe that's good, so that there won't be an SI jinx on him, ha

[TFloss32]

https://media.giphy.com/media/iAYupOdWXQy5a4nVGk/giphy.gif

A reflection of his committable offers.

[TFloss32]

S Christian Gonzalez of The Colony is headed to Purdue.

He has been mentioned a few times as a guy UT could go after at DB.

https://247sports.com/Player/Christian-Gonzalez-46080020/

[Harvey88210]

1158916313525477376

[TheMex]

Hehehe Aggys still dreaming... gonna whiff on their five star

[Jbug]

Ethan Pouncey just committed. Came from out of nowhere.

[shyne]

Nice!

[TFloss32]

Ethan Pouncey just committed. Came from out of nowhere.

Whoa, talk about a clutch get after some bad luck at DB.

Bloeddyr is going to be hyped, but he's probably asleep right now.

[Vito Corleone]

Huge pickup IMO. He is a true corner and has the ability and size to be a lock down corner.

If Jerrin Thompson commits it will push Texas up to #8 nationally ahead the Ags. And Texas has only 3 3'star commitments. That's pretty impressive since Texas still would have 3 fewer commitments than the ags.

[Biily Ray Valentine]

Great pickup. IMHO this kid is underrated. Going to surprise some people. Let Yancy go to work on him and you will have something special.

[woofwoof]

Any good info from chip or burton on 247?

[ThePop]

Any good info from chip or burton on 247?

Not in 6 or 7 years

[Biily Ray Valentine]

Not in 6 or 7 years

Ok, that's funny right there!!

[pgardn]

Huge pickup IMO. He is a true corner and has the ability and size to be a lock down corner.

If Jerrin Thompson commits it will push Texas up to #8 nationally ahead the Ags. And Texas has only 3 3'star commitments. That's pretty impressive since Texas still would have 3 fewer commitments than the ags.

So can I take this as a return slap at Auburn because I would really like to?

[TFloss32]

Not in 6 or 7 years

Pop sighting.

[TFloss32]

1158920783227445248

[TFloss32]

1158924957897887747

[TFloss32]

1158917809495314432

[TFloss32]

1158753680818147330

[TFloss32]

1158584733212782593

[TFloss32]

1158763483141476352

[TFloss32]

1158438379282939905

[TFloss32]

1158928335973638144

[TFloss32]

1158923738739593216

[TFloss32]

1158979864671731713

[Bloeddyr10]

Whoa, talk about a clutch get after some bad luck at DB.

Bloeddyr is going to be hyped, but he's probably asleep right now.

I am really hyped! As you said, this is a clutch get at DB.

[irvin88]

I recall reading a TFB or IT report a few months ago that spoke to their Florida guy who stayed Pouncey was pound for pound the best player (or cornerback I can't recall exactly) in Florida.

[pgardn]

1158928335973638144

Steele requested the transfer from Florida after he was denied a change in rooms. His roommate had been accused of a choking incident, the 5th Gator charged in Mullen’s tenture.

https://www.conquestchronicles.com/football/2019/8/6/20758173/usc-freshman-cornerback-chris-steele-rule-eligible-for-the-2019-season

SEC
SEC

Baylor would have found a nice home in that conference if only Briles was still running that pirate ship. Welcome MR. Pouncey.

[Harvey88210]

Steele requested the transfer from Florida after he was denied a change in rooms. His roommate had been accused of a choking incident, the 5th Gator charged in Mullen’s tenture.

https://www.conquestchronicles.com/football/2019/8/6/20758173/usc-freshman-cornerback-chris-steele-rule-eligible-for-the-2019-season

SEC
SEC

Baylor would have found a nice home in that conference if only Briles was still running that pirate ship. Welcome MR. Pouncey.

Somebody needs to send this to Jahari Rogers mom.

[Harvey88210]

Not recruiting related but this is a pretty good article on Sam.

1159102604489760768

https://247sports.com/Article/Sam-Ehlinger-Texas-football-quarterback-were-back-Tim-Tebow-comparison--134236817/

[Harvey88210]

1158906836319461377

Tunmise is constantly in Princely’s shit. For those not up to speed, Princely asked twitter what his new nickname should be a couple weeks ago and Tunmise chimed in with a response of “4i Princely” (see below tweet). Princely absolutely hates the idea of playing the 4i technique (inside the T in a 3 man front). This is supposedly why a&m was thought to be his leader a few weeks/months ago. They’re selling him on the idea of playing the traditional rush end type and he does not fit that mold at all.

1155958228385054721

[TFloss32]

Inside Texas believes UT is done at CB unless Jahari Rogers wants to flip down the road.

They still believe Rogers will be in Austin soon once the August dead period ends.