2020 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

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[TheMex]

I feel like I’m checking recruiting just to see if we’re losing anyone. No news is good news these days.

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I feel like I’m checking recruiting just to see if we’re losing anyone. No news is good news these days.

Collins doesn't feel good right now, but hopefully waiting until NSD2 means he's willing to see what changes Texas is making.

[texbound]

Collins doesn't feel good right now, but hopefully waiting until NSD2 means he's willing to see what changes Texas is making.

Honestly, at this point just holding on to what they have is priority #1. This includes current commits (notably Bijan, VB, JQJ, and Quentin Johnston). Plus, holding onto kids on the roster, most importantly Jake Smith. Sure, I would love to grab Ringo and Collins, but just holding on right now is the key.

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Same 10 blue blood or near blue blood schools just gonna rotate in and out year after year.

I'd love to see them put the non power five in their own playoffs

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From Inside Texas on staff going forward...

"I'm not going to speculate much on individuals but I'd bet we see significant changes."

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Also from Inside Texas, they're uncertain if Michael Huff will return next season.

[Trill Clinton]

Also from Inside Texas, they're uncertain if Michael Huff will return next season.

No more Lamborghini photo ops

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What would you say it is you do here?

[benefactor]

What would you say it is you do here?
:lol

[texas4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=_n2aQQhwjJo&feature=emb_lo go

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What would you say it is you do here?

The Bobs arrive in Austin before Christmas.

[ProgramaticNonFit]

The Bobs arrive in Austin before Christmas.

Sorry for being a dumbass....who are the Bobs?

[IvanDrago]

Sorry for being a dumbass....who are the Bobs?
It’s a reference to Office Space, the movie.

[Kermit]

Sorry for being a dumbass....who are the Bobs?

https://i.redd.it/7b74r7h4oad31.jpg

[ProgramaticNonFit]

It’s a reference to Office Space, the movie.

Damn, i was hoping we'd have some new coordinator options! Oh well, I guess we're a basketball school now....

[Das Texan]

The Bobs arrive in Austin before Christmas.

Gonna have to let some people go.

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[Blake]

What would you say it is you do here?

Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?

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Holy crap. Have the Horns had one week where they were completely healthy? Gametime decision "not gonna play".

[Millennial_Messiah]

is mack strong still the coach tbh?

[Millennial_Messiah]

what were u saying about being a basketball school.............fire shaka/herman same time please cdc
you're a ND fan lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Damn, i was hoping we'd have some new coordinator options! Oh well, I guess we're a basketball school now....
:lol college basketball
:lol borefest

[Millennial_Messiah]

my guess would be that his inexperience at the position is hurting him. he probably is a poor pass blocker to boot (at this time). raw talent alone can't make up for other deficiencies.
#coaching

[benefactor]

you're a ND fan lol
Nah he's an Aggy fan tbh

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DE James Sylvester of Newton de-commits from TCU.

https://247sports.com/player/james-sylvester-46050111/

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Damn, i was hoping we'd have some new coordinator options! Oh well, I guess we're a basketball school now....

I feel there will be at least one change at the coordinator level, so don't give up hope there.

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Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?

I moved playblair's desk to Storage B and stole his stapler.

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Didn’t read story but he should come back then.

[pgardn]

I moved playblair's desk to Storage B and stole his stapler.

Not the Swingline...

[benefactor]

I moved playblair's desk to Storage B and stole his stapler.
:lol

[Vito Corleone]

All this means is sock blair will be back. Dude is as predictable as a Todd Orlando blitz package.

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- Defending champion Longview goes down to Dallas Jesuit.

- DeSoto loses to Southlake Carroll.

- Allen upset by Rockwall, Smith-Njigba had over 250 yards receiving which included 5 TDs in first half.

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RB Devon Achane of Fort Bend Marshall commits to A&M.

https://247sports.com/Player/Devon-Achane-46049139/

[ProgramaticNonFit]

Hey TFloss, there's a thread on Sooner Scoop via orangebloods about Vernon Broughton. Is there anything going on with that situation?

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WR Collin Johnson and S BJ Foster are out, per LHN.

[benefactor]

What in the fuck was that? You line up to punt then fake the fake?:lol

[benefactor]

Predictable offense is once again predictable

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What in the fuck was that? You line up to punt then fake the fake?:lol

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[benefactor]

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:lol...perfect

[benefactor]

Oh look...running plays that aren't the zone read work

[Kermit]

The run game reminds me of my pimp game when I was at Texas.

[benefactor]

They know what Texas is going to run...again. Herman can't adjust...again.

[Kermit]

They know what Texas is going to run...again. Herman can't adjust...again.

I’m sitting here calling the plays, you think Baylor doesn’t know what’s happening? I need to be a football coach. Good money to be a charlatan. Tom Herman and Joel Osteen have a lot in common.

[benefactor]

The other side of that coin is Orlando has actually called a pretty good game defensively.

[benefactor]

:lol...well look at that shit

[Trill Clinton]

So the offensive staff decided to continue their trend of being trash. Props to Orlando for getting his guys ready.

[Kermit]

Here comes the meltdown.

[Kermit]

When a play doesn’t work, run it again for the same outcome. Brilliant play calling. We are blessed to be watching this genius at work.

[Kermit]

Sam has a noodle arm.

[soldierhorn]

Classic Ehlinger: wide open receiver (Eagles) and he he under throws it; and in this case for an interception instead of a touchdown.

[Billybass]

What a miserable season...had high expectations and then this. Freaking miserable

[Djantx]

Proposed NCAA rule - Texas is not allowed to ever call a bubble screen again.

[soldierhorn]

Quit watching the game. 4th and 34 is not even worth watching

[satam55]

there were rumors that texas is sending out fliers on lsu oc joe brady
Where did you hear that rumor? link? Joe Brady isn't even the playcaller for LSU.

[texas4ever]

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[Kermit]

Is it reporting if you just steal it from a pay site?

[Billybass]

welcome to the life of an aggy fan from the mid 2000s........ask rjv (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17206) DesignatedT (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13220) they will tell u all about this feeling....... benefactor (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13284) can keep his homer glasses on all he wants bu he knows the truth that texas = aggys mid 2000s
This season maybe, but aggy has not had a season like we did last year in a looooonnng time

[GregoryJim]

So our offense was awesome (until OU) but now our defense (sorta) dominates?? I don’t recall a season where offense gets worse while d gets better like this.

But, we all need to realize Sam is maybe (?) as good as applewhite. However, he’s just not near as good as Colt. Plus, Sam has exactly 1 stud wr/te/rb = DD (thanks to LJH and bad Collin hammy and whit groin and Bru ho).

Hopefully, young wrs/rbs/tes step up next year and we’re better.

BUT, there’s a ceiling unless Sam quits holding ball too long, he suddenly has more accuracy and arm strength like Colt and can be more explosive on runs.

I almost wish Herm would start RoJo at QB v Tech to see if we’d b better w his explosiveness at qb.

[woofwoof]

I need to watch hudson cards' highlights to see if he has legit arm talent. I really wish Cameron Rising would've stayed. Sam does not possess ELITE arm strength. Love the kid for who he is, how he fights and pushes, but I don't see a pro career out of him. Eagles had a TD, twice, *Probably same play*, but failed to reach him. One was a late read that a JR qb should've thrown, the next was underthrown. Sad thing is, I don't think Casey Thompson has it either, that colt mccoy accuracy and arm strength. Again don't get me wrong, Sam is my dude, just things I'm noticing.

For Texas to get a better record, we need better coaching. Just shouldn't be losing these games. For a head coach so involved in offense, OUR OFFENSE SUCKS.

THIS TEAM MAKES ME WANT TO roll up

[pgardn]

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Its come to this

[Eastexhorn]

I need to watch hudson cards' highlights to see if he has legit arm talent. I really wish Cameron Rising would've stayed. Sam does not possess ELITE arm strength. Love the kid for who he is, how he fights and pushes, but I don't see a pro career out of him. Eagles had a TD, twice, *Probably same play*, but failed to reach him. One was a late read that a JR qb should've thrown, the next was underthrown. Sad thing is, I don't think Casey Thompson has it either, that colt mccoy accuracy and arm strength. Again don't get me wrong, Sam is my dude, just things I'm noticing.

For Texas to get a better record, we need better coaching. Just shouldn't be losing these games. For a head coach so involved in offense, OUR OFFENSE SUCKS.

THIS TEAM MAKES ME WANT TO roll up
Sam was the same last year. But cheer up Texas helt Baylor to less points than OU.

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Wiltfong from 24/7 crystal balled WR Loic Fouonji of Midland Lee to Tech.

https://247sports.com/Player/Loic-Fouonji-46052902/

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No Texas for 2021 RB Brandon Campbell of Pearland.

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Hope we can score at least 10.5 points…lol��

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Wiltfong from 24/7 crystal balled WR Loic Fouonji of Midland Lee to Tech.

https://247sports.com/Player/Loic-Fouonji-46052902/

Committed to Tech today.

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Per Herman, WR Collin Johnson will miss the Tech game.

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OL Garrett Hayes of Athens commits to TCU.

https://247sports.com/Player/Garrett-Hayes-46051207/

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On LB Juwan Mitchell...Herman said he missed the Baylor game due to an aggravated hamstring in warm-ups, but 24/7 had already reported he had some sort of an issue with a coach earlier in the week.

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Former Fort Bend Ridge Point and Michigan TE Mustapha Muhammad headed to Houston.

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Herman takes over the #1 spot.

http://coacheshotseat.com/

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Thanksgiving week television schedule.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/schedule/_/week/14

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[bluetrumpet]

TFloss, what assistants do you see gone at the end of the season? Also, how solid are Bijan and the rest of the class right now?

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Per Herman, WR Collin Johnson will miss the Tech game.

Inside Texas hearing RB Keaontay Ingram and CB Jalen Green will be questionable for Friday.

S DeMarvion Overshown could be out with an ankle injury.

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Per Inside Texas, they expect a minimum of four assistants to be fired, and both sides of the ball will be needing new hires.

My guess is we see movement on this as early as Friday night.

[TFloss32]

Per Inside Texas, they expect a minimum of four assistants to be fired, and both sides of the ball will be needing new hires.

My guess is we see movement on this as early as Friday night.

I kept reading, and as unrealistic as it sounds, Herman may not be out of the woods depending on how things shake out in the next week or two.

It sounds like everything from off-the-field locker room issues to the season record is being carefully considered.

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I kept reading, and as unrealistic as it sounds, Herman may not be out of the woods depending on how things shake out in the next week or two.

It sounds like everything from off-the-field locker room issues to the season record is being carefully considered.

Yeah, I've seen the smoke as well. Apparently, Herman's ego is going to get the best of him in this situation. This weekend is going to be really, really interesting.

[Bloeddyr10]

Per Inside Texas, they expect a minimum of four assistants to be fired, and both sides of the ball will be needing new hires.

My guess is we see movement on this as early as Friday night.

Early guesses from me; Drew Mehringer, Corby Meekins, Derek Warehime and Todd Orlando. Probably Jason Washington as well. I could see Tim Beck get demoted to QB coach as well.

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Weird I think both fan bases want their team to lose at this point

[TFloss32]

Yeah, I've seen the smoke as well. Apparently, Herman's ego is going to get the best of him in this situation. This weekend is going to be really, really interesting.

If anyone missed it, a lot of parents are scheduled to be in Austin early for a team Thanksgiving dinner.

I bet CDC has a spot reserved.

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[Kermit]

The only way Herman gets shit-canned in my mind is if Urban Myer is coming. Which would be hilarious. Zach Smith might actually die of an overdose.

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Jerry Jones can have Tom Herman.

[pgardn]

Really good job TFloss during a difficult time.

[Vito Corleone]

Per Inside Texas, they expect a minimum of four assistants to be fired, and both sides of the ball will be needing new hires.

My guess is we see movement on this as early as Friday night.

My money is on Wareheim, Mehringer on offense and Washington and navair on defense. Along with both Coordinators.

Coordinators are dead men walking.

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Really good job TFloss during a difficult time.

Haha, no problem.

Things are a lot easier when you just accept Texas is bad, although I did try to stay away on Saturday and Sunday.

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DE James Sylvester of Newton commits to Baylor.

https://247sports.com/Player/James-Sylvester-46050111/

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[TheMex]

My money is on Wareheim, Mehringer on offense and Washington and navair on defense. Along with both Coordinators.

Coordinators are dead men walking.
I disagree with you. I think that the coordinators stay, just relegated to position jobs.

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[pgardn]

I see none mentioning Herb Hand?

The Oline has clearly not been stellar.
So are we getting ourselves in tough situations playcalling so that the Oline can’t handle it?

What I have seen from Hand I like even though: Junior Angilau has been struggling imo but we don’t appear to have a good backup. Braun has been struggling as well. Got to have Shackleford in for leadership it takes at center, but I don’t think he is close to an NFL center and has been beat badly and makes some bad decisions.

So Hand stays because he’s relatively new, doing a good job, what?

Are there any asst. coaches around that you guys think are actually the reason this horrible decline has not led to an outright rebellion? Guys that are good at staying focused and keeping morale from complete meltdown?

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[Vito Corleone]

I see none mentioning Herb Hand?

The Oline has clearly not been stellar.
So are we getting ourselves in tough situations playcalling so that the Oline can’t handle it?

What I have seen from Hand I like even though: Junior Angilau has been struggling imo but we don’t appear to have a good backup. Braun has been struggling as well. Got to have Shackleford in for leadership it takes at center, but I don’t think he is close to an NFL center and has been beat badly and makes some bad decisions.

So Hand stays because he’s relatively new, doing a good job, what?

Are there any asst. coaches around that you guys think are actually the reason this horrible decline has not led to an outright rebellion? Guys that are good at staying focused and keeping morale from complete meltdown?

Bingo, I'd give hand 1 more year. No mention of Giles either. My reasoning for that is he cut his teeth in the 4-3 defense, and though i think he is an average recruiter he is great at getting the most out of his guys. I think the struggles with the dline are 95% due to the 3 man front we are running.

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24/7 reporting Larry Fedora is not expected to be retained in any role, so he will not be the new offensive coordinator.

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Offensive analyst Andre Coleman expected to move on as well.

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[Vito Corleone]

I wouldn't be surprised if Herman interviews for another job at the end of the season, even if his job is safe. He has been a superstar his whole coaching career, this is the first time he has been faced with adversity, how he responds is still an unknown.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Herman interviews for another job at the end of the season, even if his job is safe. He has been a superstar his whole coaching career, this is the first time he has been faced with adversity, how he responds is still an unknown.

I would think he forfeits about $20 mil by doing so.

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Lol prep phrases for the next job interview

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[SlickStreet]

I wouldn't be surprised if Herman interviews for another job at the end of the season, even if his job is safe. He has been a superstar his whole coaching career, this is the first time he has been faced with adversity, how he responds is still an unknown.
I'd be mighty surprised. This has always been his dream job. I see him fighting tooth and nail to keep it

[Eastexhorn]

Lets all hope he turns it around.And spends the next twenty years at Texas. If my memory is correct DKR won 11 outright and 3 co confrence ships in his 20 years. Maybe Herman can get close to a match. even close to J. Macks record for ships would be nice.

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Happy Thanksgiving, dudes.

Hope y'all have a great day and weekend.

[Vito Corleone]

Outside of High School Football, and College Football, I'm pretty much done with sports. My time is too valuable to waste it on watching a bunch of over indulgent millionaires play a kids game.

Sorry that the arena league is folding, but it means nothing to me because I would never give them a penny of my money.

Oh, there is a exception to my sports watching, I will watch both the summer and winter Olympics

[playblair]

Outside of High School Football, and College Football, I'm pretty much done with sports. My time is too valuable to waste it on watching a bunch of over indulgent millionaires play a kids game.

Sorry that the arena league is folding, but it means nothing to me because I would never give them a penny of my money.

Oh, there is a exception to my sports watching, I will watch both the summer and winter Olympics

austin has a pro soccer team now give mls a try u will be surprised at the pace of play it makes it hard to go back to watching football

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[playblair]

prayers answered 2 years too late.......carrington gets to go on the road...........

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[soldierhorn]

Outside of High School Football, and College Football, I'm pretty much done with sports. My time is too valuable to waste it on watching a bunch of over indulgent millionaires play a kids game.

Sorry that the arena league is folding, but it means nothing to me because I would never give them a penny of my money.

Oh, there is a exception to my sports watching, I will watch both the summer and winter Olympics
I've always enjoyed watching track and lately I've also enjoyed rugby

[soldierhorn]

austin has a pro soccer team now give mls a try u will be surprised at the pace of play it makes it hard to go back to watching football
not interested whatsoever.

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2021 DE Landyn Watson (Hutto)

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Notes from coaching update (24/7):

- "subtstantial changes" are on the way including a new offensive coordinator, Herman has identified his top target and will move quickly after Friday's game against Tech.

- the potential hire will not be a slam dunk, as he's employed at a school that could make a big commitment to keep him.

- it is thought that the first two calls will go to LSU's Joe Brady and USC's Graham Harrell.

- as many as four offensive assistants could be reassigned, or let go altogether, which will allow Bryan Carrington to hit the road recruiting immediately.

- as far as defensive assistants, Orlando has a year remaining on his deal while Giles, Washington and Naivar are year-to-year contracts.

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More notes on the program (Inside Texas):

- everything they're hearing signals Herman is going to get a chance to invest heavily in a reboot for his staff, and he's been telling the parents of players as much and asking them to "let me fix this."

- they expect Texas to be very aggressive going after "the best of the best" which includes a big offensive coordinator name, but only time will tell if they can pull it off.

- offensive analyst Andre Coleman is supposed to hit the road with Bryan Carrington once certain terminations occur, but there's conflicting information on Coleman and if he'll be returning next year.

- they believe there could be two waves of firings, one this weekend and then another after the bowl where current staff members could be reassigned if they're not let go outright.

- they're hearing a max of only three assistants are safe, and one of those three may not be safe based on how other things unfold.

- if Orlando ends up being fired, they think Utah defensive coordinator Morgan Scalley will be fully vetted.

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On injuries from Inside Texas...

- CB Jalen Green is probably out.

- S BJ Foster and S DeMarvion Overshown are doubtful.

[TFloss32]

One note I forgot to add from 24/7 is don't be surprised if Coach Beck decides to step away to be with family.

[Billybass]

Bijan has stated his relationship with Stan Drayton is a major reason for his commitment. I wonder what Drayton status is ?

[Blake]

Outside of High School Football, and College Football, I'm pretty much done with sports. My time is too valuable to waste it on watching a bunch of over indulgent millionaires play a kids game.

Sorry that the arena league is folding, but it means nothing to me because I would never give them a penny of my money.

Oh, there is a exception to my sports watching, I will watch both the summer and winter Olympics

That's pretty close to where I'm at. I like watching the pros play but I don't revolve my Sundays around them any more and I don't lose any sleep when the Cowboys get beat down by the Buffalo Bills

[texbound]

On injuries from Inside Texas...

- CB Jalen Green is probably out.

- S BJ Foster and S DeMarvion Overshown are doubtful.

Awesome...who the hell is left in the secondary? Boyce and Jamison and ????

[Vito Corleone]

I've always enjoyed watching track and lately I've also enjoyed rugby

I'm a All Blacks fan, and I will watch Rugby from time to time, but mostly it's a "Oh Look, Rugby is on on" type of Event.


not interested whatsoever.

I can't watch soccer, it's just too damn boring. I personally like having my Sunday's free for other things.



Bijan has stated his relationship with Stan Drayton is a major reason for his commitment. I wonder what Drayton status is ?

If our decision is based off of recruiting then I'm pretty sure Drayton and Giles are safe. Texas would lose a substantial amount of their recruiting class if they lose those two guys.

[soldierhorn]

That's pretty close to where I'm at. I like watching the pros play but I don't revolve my Sundays around them any more and I don't lose any sleep when the Cowboys get beat down by the Buffalo Bills
yeah, I was a fanatic cowboy fan back in the day but Jerry Jones has turned me in to someone who doesnt care what happens to them. I didnt even know they played. I've got better things to do.
I feel the same for the Texas Rangers. I went to the new stadium and it was expensive. There is no way I could afford to take a car load of kids. And, now they are saying then new ballpark is too old. RIDICULOUS
The whole concept of professional whiny multimillionaires is not only tiresome but bad examples for kids. Then you have Billionaires extorting towns for new stadiums and benefits. The whole business deserves to be cut down in size, IMO.

[Kermit]

It’s fucking empty here.

[Jbug]

Meyer and FOX crew roasting Texas and staff.

[woofwoof]

Same game plan

[leemajors]

this is some pitiful shit.

[soldierhorn]

Same game plan
wow... if Herman loses to two-conference win Tech with a first year coach at Home, then he needs to be fired

[TheMex]

Ohio St mod put in a flip for Bijan to USC.

[playblair]

Ohio St mod put in a flip for Bijan to USC.

no reason to keep drayton on staff if this happens


Andrew Ellis put in a flip pick for Bijan to USC.

[woofwoof]

I can finally say we made a halftime adjustment with adjusting the line and moving them to get a better pocket to throw out of.

If we lose Bijan, first off, I'd be surprised, secondly, has he visited them recently? They don't look much better than us.

[playblair]

utahs d coordinator runs a 4 man front..........this d line will look much better under him........they played very well today in a 3 man front

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[Billybass]

Looked a lot better today. I think next season will be similar to last year. This year was tough, but the game is not easy. I really like our chances next year.

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Ohio St mod put in a flip for Bijan to USC.

That's unfortunate, but he may counting on Texas firing Drayton.

[GregoryJim]

Last 4 games for Orlando held other team to 24 or less. We lose bc offense to Baylor and isu.

Rice and La tech don’t count.

Our d held LSU to less than bama. Held ou to 10 n 1st half and lose game bc offense and special teams. Tcu loss due to 4 interceptions. D played good enough v wva, k st, osu. Injured d crapped bed v Kansas.

So we are basically firing Orlando (maybe) because Kansas.

Constantly firing coaches because we don’t have enough talent which then causes us to lose recruits which means we don’t upgrade our talent is dumb.

Hopefully, they get an upgrade over beck but keep hand and maybe Drayton for one more year (if he can keep Bijan).

[IvanDrago]

Last 4 games for Orlando held other team to 24 or less. We lose bc offense to Baylor and isu.

Rice and La tech don’t count.

Our d held LSU to less than bama. Held ou to 10 n 1st half and lose game bc offense and special teams. Tcu loss due to 4 interceptions. D played good enough v wva, k st, osu. Injured d crapped bed v Kansas.

So we are basically firing Orlando (maybe) because Kansas.

Constantly firing coaches because we don’t have enough talent which then causes us to lose recruits which means we don’t upgrade our talent is dumb.

Hopefully, they get an upgrade over beck but keep hand and maybe Drayton for one more year (if he can keep Bijan).

I'm kinda torn on this one. I think Orlando could be solid, but he needs some serious upgrades at position coaches, specifically the secondary. But LB is supposed to be the hero in this defense and our LBs have been atrocious as well as his recruiting efforts at that position.

[GregoryJim]

Talent is our problem.

How many guys played on offense today that will start in NFL? The answer is 1 - dev duv. None of the tes or OL is a probable nfl starter. The maybes are cosmi and Ingram (who was hurt).

In 2005, how many nfl starters on offense? The whole Ol except for Kasey. Jamal Charles at rb. David Thomas. Vince.

Shipley quan and colt were on the roster but didn’t play.

Compare that 2005 defense in nfl talent to this team? Night and day.

Basically, we had bama talent back then and won w/ Greg Davis as o coord.

Last point. How many guys from LSU will be picked in 1st 3 rounds in draft compared to us? It going to be like 10 to 1. But it’s all because our coaches suck??? No. LSU has coach o who can’t coach but he can RECRUIT talent and they had lotta talent when he took over.

[TFloss32]

24/7 spoke with QB Ja'Quinden Jackson today and he said he's completely locked in and will be signing in December, but he'd be keeping an eye on coaching changes.

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I'm kinda torn on this one. I think Orlando could be solid, but he needs some serious upgrades at position coaches, specifically the secondary. But LB is supposed to be the hero in this defense and our LBs have been atrocious as well as his recruiting efforts at that position.

His deal expires in March, and I don't believe that will work in his favor.

Regardless, it appears the offense will be blown up.

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[GregoryJim]

So when aggy loses to LSU, are the two 7-5 teams (Texas v Aggy) going to play in Houston in the Texas Bowl?

Beating Aggy would be a fantastic end to a disappointing year.

TFloss, any chance this will be the bowl game match up?

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So when aggy loses to LSU, are the two 7-5 teams (Texas v Aggy) going to play in Houston in the Texas Bowl?

Beating Aggy would be a fantastic end to a disappointing year.

TFloss, any chance this will be the bowl game match up?

I very much doubt it.

[TheMex]

I heard on the radio that the sec just doesn’t like that matchup so they won’t agree to it.

[texas4ever]

So when aggy loses to LSU, are the two 7-5 teams (Texas v Aggy) going to play in Houston in the Texas Bowl?

Beating Aggy would be a fantastic end to a disappointing year.

TFloss, any chance this will be the bowl game match up?
Never going to happen. SEC picks the matchups and no way in hell this is going down. Its really bigger than football.

[texas4ever]

It wouldn't surprise me if Chris Ash is part of the answer on D. Even if Herman keeps Orlando as DC, Ash would make a great assistant.

O side of ball is where you'll see the most changes, including a new OC, imo.

[Dennis the Menace]

“If we can get Urban you fire Herman immediately. If we can't, for whatever reason, then I can see an argument for one more year. Doesn't mean it's correct but the only way anyone should argue Herman should stay is if Urban isn't available. Every attempt should be made to hire Urban now.”

I saw this posted on the Shag/Surly and couldn’t agree more. Urban has the “10 wins isn’t enough” mindset, Herman has the “Welp, let’s be the best in our state” mindset.

Not that the fans need more supporting evidence considering the results from the past 10 years but these next few months will show what mindset the AD & big money donors have.

[DMX7]

Herman should be back in my opinion. Absolutely need a new OC though. And I like Urban but if we got him, you can’t expect him to be a long term solution given his history but maybe that doesn’t matter.

[TFloss32]

Per OrangeBloods, the staff will be back in the office tomorrow and Herman is expected to have individual meetings.

They are anticipating up to three coaches to be let go in the first round of firings.

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Someone please explain to me how a guy with 103 receptions and 1200+ yards is not a finalist for Biletnikoff award? How is that possible? Highway robbery. Hell, he wasn't even a semi-finalist (or top 12).

[horninok]

I've never been a conspiracy guy but I don't think anyone in the national media is going to recognize a Longhorn player until they are consistently challenging for the B12 Championships. I can't help but think there is a large number of them relishing the last decade of Texas struggles.

[horninok]

On another note, I can not for the life of me understand the $ec rational for protecting the aggies from a bowl game against Texas. Most would believe they are clearly superior and beating Texas would be a recruiting victory for a&m and the conference. Kick the dog while its down so to speak. Of course a loss to Texas could be disastrous to the aggie illusion.

[pgardn]

Urban Meyer

NO
NEVER

EVER

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so they expect the Aggies to get a high level game?
what, so they can get crushed?

they are every bit as bad as we are
their offense totally sucks

[TheMex]

so they expect the Aggies to get a high level game?
what, so they can get crushed?

they are every bit as bad as we are
their offense totally suckshe is saying that they’ll both be in a low level game and the SEC won’t match them there. If they were both playing a high level game, then maybe they’d get matched.

[Eastexhorn]

Someone please explain to me how a guy with 103 receptions and 1200+ yards is not a finalist for Biletnikoff award? How is that possible? Highway robbery. Hell, he wasn't even a semi-finalist (or top 12).
Dev. is good but so are a lot of other WRS.A great year for the WR position Check some of the other WR stats. Winning also helps in most adwards.

[SlickStreet]

“If we can get Urban you fire Herman immediately. If we can't, for whatever reason, then I can see an argument for one more year. Doesn't mean it's correct but the only way anyone should argue Herman should stay is if Urban isn't available. Every attempt should be made to hire Urban now.”

I saw this posted on the Shag/Surly and couldn’t agree more. Urban has the “10 wins isn’t enough” mindset, Herman has the “Welp, let’s be the best in our state” mindset.

Not that the fans need more supporting evidence considering the results from the past 10 years but these next few months will show what mindset the AD & big money donors have.
I still don't know where so many people consider that heavily the possibility of Urban Meyer and Texas. The way the University runs things--including football--it just almost assuredly isn't happening. UM has too much baggage to be even a really serious candidate. I don't mean that they won't allow him to pass thru their thoughts, but only so briefly IMO.

[SlickStreet]

That's unfortunate, but he may counting on Texas firing Drayton.

from what I recall, that mod doesn't have a very good accuracy rating for these kinds of predictions, and he may have gotten that info from a shaky second-hand source per what I was reading on IT regarding it.
hope that's the case, of course

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[SlickStreet]

Talent is our problem.

How many guys played on offense today that will start in NFL? The answer is 1 - dev duv. None of the tes or OL is a probable nfl starter. The maybes are cosmi and Ingram (who was hurt).

In 2005, how many nfl starters on offense? The whole Ol except for Kasey. Jamal Charles at rb. David Thomas. Vince.

Shipley quan and colt were on the roster but didn’t play.

Compare that 2005 defense in nfl talent to this team? Night and day.

Basically, we had bama talent back then and won w/ Greg Davis as o coord.

Last point. How many guys from LSU will be picked in 1st 3 rounds in draft compared to us? It going to be like 10 to 1. But it’s all because our coaches suck??? No. LSU has coach o who can’t coach but he can RECRUIT talent and they had lotta talent when he took over.
if talent is the problem, why can a Baylor or a Minnesota win around 10 games? Sure, you can say those are pretty rare exceptions, but the reality is that our talent exceeds any in the conference except maybe OU's, and they're about on par with one another.

So, yeah, coaching is a big problem. I'm not saying they don't do anything well nor that they don't try hard. The problem among many things include a poor distribution between offensive and defensive assistants. But, yeah, the talent is much better than 7-5. Even if you factor in injuries, which were numerous, we should have been looking at about 9-3. And one of those wins was a home game against a Kansas squad that we had to eek out a last moment win vs, the same team that Baylor obliterated the other day, 61-6.

I'm ready for Texas to start optimizing the talent it has: not do less with it than expected.

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[GregoryJim]

1. Ou has,had more talent than us (cd lamb, Baker, their OL, hurts, kyler, etc). Don’t take my word for it just look at the draft.

2. Our current team has significantly less talent than UT between 2003 - 2009. Again, don’t take my word for it just look at the draft. That explains why Mack/Greg Davis won 10+ yearly and we cannot win 10 games each year now.

3. We CAN win 10 games in a year (like last year) but we can’t have a slew of injuries, games with 4 flukey interceptions, win a non-con game against #1/2 LSU, etc because our talent edge is not overwhelming.

4. Baylor’s and Minnesota’s awesome coaches can’t win 10 games every year. Just look at their records last year.

5. Baylor and Minnesota would have more losses if they played LSU (Causing a slew of d injuries), had our offensive injuries (rb, Collin) and had a 4 interception game.

6. Herman is a way better coach than the Cookie Monster. It’s not even close. Emfinger isn’t the world’s greatest o coord. But LSU is undefeated. How can that happen w the worst head coach in the sec west? Overwhelming talent. Don’t take my word for it just look and see how many LSU guys get drafted compared to aggy, UT, ole miss, arky.

If we are getting new coaches to get instate guys like Jk Dobbins, Waddle, Hurts, Greg Little, to be horns great. But we don’t need to fire virtually the whole staff to do that. Just bring in 2-3 new coaches at most.

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[Kermit]

When can I help Tim Beck pack? And that also that dude who shits in recruits toilets and stops them up?

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OrangeBloods expects Coach Mehringer to be let go today as well.

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[satam55]

1. Ou has,had more talent than us (cd lamb, Baker, their OL, hurts, kyler, etc). Don’t take my word for it just look at the draft.

2. Our current team has significantly less talent than UT between 2001 - 2009. Again, don’t take my word for it just look at the draft. That explains why Mack/Greg Davis won 10+ yearly and we cannot win 10 games each year now.

3. We CAN win 10 games in a year (like last year) but we can’t have a slew of injuries, games with 4 flukey interceptions, win a non-con game against #1/2 LSU, etc because our talent edge is not overwhelming.

4. Baylor’s and Minnesota’s awesome coaches can’t win 10 games every year. Just look at their records last year.

5. Baylor and Minnesota would have more losses if they played LSU (Causing a slew of d injuries), had our offensive injuries (rb, Collin) and had a 4 interception game.

6. Herman is a way better coach than the Cookie Monster. It’s not even close. Emfinger isn’t the world’s greatest o coord. But LSU is undefeated. How can that happen w the worst head coach in the sec west? Overwhelming talent. Don’t take my word for it just look and see how many LSU guys get drafted compared to aggy, UT, ole miss, arky.

If we are getting new coaches to get instate guys like Jk Dobbins, Waddle, Hurts, Greg Little, to be horns great. But we don’t need to fire virtually the whole staff to do that. Just bring in 2-3 new coaches at most.
FIFY. The 2001 & 2002 UT teams each had the talent to win a national championship.

[Dennis the Menace]

this quote from 247 is legit

Assuming Delconte accepts the comfort hires. Will Delconte be equally responsible if the comfort hires fail next year?

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Another name being thrown around is Morgan Scalley.

https://utahutes.com/staff-directory/morgan-scalley/147

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[Trill Clinton]

Joe Brady me please

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To clarify on Coach Beck, Inside Texas is saying his situation is a reassignment with an option to be a position coach.

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OrangeBloods believes Coach Drayton and Coach Hand are safe.

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Per Inside Texas, feedback on Graham Harrell has been positive and don't be surprised if that goes down.

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[texas4ever]

To clarify on Coach Beck, Inside Texas is saying his situation is a reassignment with an option to be a position coach.


Recruiting matters and he is great at it.

[TFloss32]

Staff page has been updated, if you're trying to keep up.

https://texassports.com/sports/football/coaches

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Per Inside Texas, feedback on Graham Harrell has been positive and don't be surprised if that goes down.

Inside Texas hinting Harrell could meet with Herman this week.

[Trill Clinton]

I do not want Harrell.

[TFloss32]

I was going through Carrington's recent follows and noticed he started following Kansas WRs coach Emmett Jones.

If you aren't familiar with him, he cut his teeth in Dallas for a long time at schools like Seagoville, Lincoln and Skyline before ultimately getting the head gig at South Oak Cliff.

In 2015, Kingsbury hired him away to be on the Tech staff and now he's at Kansas under Miles.

He has a great reputation recruiting Dallas and could be someone Herman looks at to upgrade his staff.

OrangeBloods mentioned one of Herman's analysts, Andre Coleman, as someone who could step in if changes are made on offense.

Inside Texas mentioning Emmett Jones as a WRs coach for the new staff.

They're also mentioning Sonny Cumbie if he is let go at TCU, and Darin Chiaverini of Colorado.

Chiaverini recruits Texas well, coached WRs at Tech and has a backround in special teams.

Lots of Tech flavor here, and it looks like UT will need two WRs coaches if they're going with that system.

https://kuathletics.com/coach/emmett-jones/

https://gofrogs.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/sonny-cumbie/549

https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/darrin-chiaverini/1966

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