2020 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

[pgardn]

Fixin' to sell my soul for Urban.

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I will kill myself first and let you guys live with it.
Till the mental breakdown comes from Urb.

Lying sob...

[bluebellmaniac]

So who is realistically available? And who might be a stretch, but might give us hope. And yes, I'm taking Herman replacement. Not recruits.

[TFloss32]

So who is realistically available? And who might be a stretch, but might give us hope. And yes, I'm taking Herman replacement. Not recruits.

Herman isn't getting fired.

I would focus on coordinators, and like Inside Texas mentioned this evening, it's time for Herman to prepare to bring in an OC and give him control.

Herman isn't capable of calling plays and being a game manager.

[pgardn]

I refuse to give up on our team.
I will just lower expectations.

We knew if Sam had a bad game we would lose. And we have had a shitload of injuries. The most unexpected thing for me is how bad our O-line has been. We knew the D was a problem before the season except for the secondary (well maybe at CB but our safeties would help) Well guess what... We knew RB depth was awful and guess what... But the Oline?

[horninok]

Herman isn't getting fired.

I would focus on coordinators, and like Inside Texas mentioned this evening, it's time for Herman to prepare to bring in an OC and give him control.

Herman isn't capable of calling plays and being a game manager.


That begs the question, who are the possible coordinators out there that could make an immediate impact without having to take a step back?

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That begs the question, who are the possible coordinators out there that could make an immediate impact without having to take a step back?

I am more or less talking out loud because I haven't been able to digest the loss yet, but I'll answer with this.

Herman isn't Del Conte's hire, and starting over with new coordinators in Year 3 or 4 is not a good sign. Who will want to step into that?

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[horninok]

That makes sense. If the season ends like many Texas fans are assuming, there will definitely be changes. As disappointed and frustrated as I am with seemingly being in a "Groundhog Day" experience, it does occur to me that we are seeing the results of poor coaching/recruiting decisions over the previous decade. Makes me wonder if there are some underlying issues that other programs do not deal with that are keeping UT from reaching the level we all want to see? Living in the NE corner of sooner country, I do not hear much about the day to day of the program. That makes me all the more appreciative of insiders and boards such as this one. Thanks to all.

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[Vito Corleone]

OC's are hard to come by but I would look at offenses that are both putting up big numbers and putting guys in the league. Let's start with the OC in Norman, we can out bid to gooners for him since it's probably going to be Riley leaving for the NFL. Then I would look at the OC in LSU or one of the New Orleans Saints OCs. That dude worked wonders on the LSU offense.

DC is easier. I'd look first at the two guys we have already on campus, Beaty and Ash, if neither is what we are looking for then next I'd look at Jerry Gray and finally I'd look at the DCs in Ohio State and Bama.

Of course we could maybe money whip Aranda (sp).

I like Giles and our RB coach, and hand, but all the others are now up for grabs.

If this doesn't work then Tom has to go.

If we get rid of Tom I'm looking hard at the dude in Iowa State and maybe pulling an aggsy and money whipping a big name like Urban or dare I say it. Dabo.

[BramonceTaylor]

What are you drinking? I want some. Unless you’re a long game troll and it was all built for this moment.

Nobody from OU is coming to Texas even if Riley gets an NFL gig. Rinsing and repeating what LSU did from the Saints isn’t gonna happen and also is fools gold. Herman also happens to have been hired for his offensive philosophy. So if you don’t like that skip to your point on moving on.

On defense, Aranda isn’t coming here and it’s not easier than O. Who on this staff gives you confidence they can take over and do better? Beaty isn’t on campus and also happens to be an offensive coach (Ash isn’t on campus either). Where I’m convinced you’re a troll is by your Jerry Gray, Bama DC or OSU DC fix. That’s the dumbest thing put on a Texas message board today.

The only thing you said which which made sense is the look at Matt Campbell thing (that dude in Iowa State) but even then he isn’t built to win this league.

Long time lurker, first time poster. Couldn’t let this bullshit slide.

[satam55]

OC's are hard to come by but I would look at offenses that are both putting up big numbers and putting guys in the league. Let's start with the OC in Norman, we can out bid to gooners for him since it's probably going to be Riley leaving for the NFL. Then I would look at the OC in LSU or one of the New Orleans Saints OCs. That dude worked wonders on the LSU offense.

DC is easier. I'd look first at the two guys we have already on campus, Beaty and Ash, if neither is what we are looking for then next I'd look at Jerry Gray and finally I'd look at the DCs in Ohio State and Bama.

Of course we could maybe money whip Aranda (sp).

I like Giles and our RB coach, and hand, but all the others are now up for grabs.

If this doesn't work then Tom has to go.

If we get rid of Tom I'm looking hard at the dude in Iowa State and maybe pulling an aggsy and money whipping a big name like Urban or dare I say it. Dabo.

WTF?! Everyone knows Lincoln Riley is still the playcaller for OU even after becoming the Head Coach. Most people don't even know who the hell the current non-playcalling OC for OU is without looking it up. I sure don't. It would just make more sense to hire a proven Air Raid OC playcaller like Doug Meacham instead of hiring OU's no-name unproven OC.


Also David Beatty is an offensive guy, not a defensive guy. He was the WR Coach on Kevin Sumlin's A&M staff before he took the KU Head Coaching job.

[Blake]

What are you drinking? I want some. Unless you’re a long game troll and it was all built for this moment.

Nobody from OU is coming to Texas even if Riley gets an NFL gig. Rinsing and repeating what LSU did from the Saints isn’t gonna happen and also is fools gold. Herman also happens to have been hired for his offensive philosophy. So if you don’t like that skip to your point on moving on.

On defense, Aranda isn’t coming here and it’s not easier than O. Who on this staff gives you confidence they can take over and do better? Beaty isn’t on campus and also happens to be an offensive coach (Ash isn’t on campus either). Where I’m convinced you’re a troll is by your Jerry Gray, Bama DC or OSU DC fix. That’s the dumbest thing put on a Texas message board today.

The only thing you said which which made sense is the look at Matt Campbell thing (that dude in Iowa State) but even then he isn’t built to win this league.

Long time lurker, first time poster. Couldn’t let this bullshit slide.

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[Bloeddyr10]

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This is reason enough, for me, to put Herman on notice.

[Cowhorns01]

This season is a huge disappointment. I know he has to say that he stands by his coaches right now but after the tech game changes needs to be made. Very unimaginative offense. Pathetic defense that is predictable

[longhorncliff]

Cheer-up,before long it will be basketball season. Cough-cough. Then it will be baseball season.Cough-cough.Well I guess we are ____ked.

[Dennis the Menace]

Cheer-up,before long it will be basketball season. Cough-cough. Then it will be baseball season.Cough-cough.Well I guess we are ____ked.

Go Spurs Go

[Vito Corleone]

What are you drinking? I want some. Unless you’re a long game troll and it was all built for this moment.

Nobody from OU is coming to Texas even if Riley gets an NFL gig. Rinsing and repeating what LSU did from the Saints isn’t gonna happen and also is fools gold. Herman also happens to have been hired for his offensive philosophy. So if you don’t like that skip to your point on moving on.

On defense, Aranda isn’t coming here and it’s not easier than O. Who on this staff gives you confidence they can take over and do better? Beaty isn’t on campus and also happens to be an offensive coach (Ash isn’t on campus either). Where I’m convinced you’re a troll is by your Jerry Gray, Bama DC or OSU DC fix. That’s the dumbest thing put on a Texas message board today.

The only thing you said which which made sense is the look at Matt Campbell thing (that dude in Iowa State) but even then he isn’t built to win this league.

Long time lurker, first time poster. Couldn’t let this bullshit slide.

STFU Blair, your stupid shit is clear as glass.

[Vito Corleone]

This is reason enough, for me, to put Herman on notice.

I'm with you, that shit pissed me off. It's time for CDC to step up and force the changes that need to be made.

[IvanDrago]

I'm with you, that shit pissed me off. It's time for CDC to step up and force the changes that need to be made.

Herman is the definition of the 'this is fine' dog sitting in the burning room meme. He would never publicly admit that the his faith in Orlando is shaken. Prior to this game he'd made some comments in interviews about the D, which is more than he usually does. I think he gets it and things are working behind the scenes. At least I hope so. :)

[Vito Corleone]

WTF?! Everyone knows Lincoln Riley is still the playcaller for OU even after becoming the Head Coach. Most people don't even know who the hell the current non-playcalling OC for OU is without looking it up. I sure don't. It would just make more sense to hire a proven Air Raid OC playcaller like Doug Meacham instead of hiring OU's no-name unproven OC.


Also David Beatty is an offensive guy, not a defensive guy. He was the WR Coach on Kevin Sumlin's A&M staff before he took the KU Head Coaching job.

My bad on the Beaty thing, for some reason I must have confused him with one of the other analyst we have on staff. As for the OC at jokelahoma, Maybe just maybe something has rubbed off because Riley has been running the best offense in the country for the last 3 years. I seem to remember a pretty good Texas coach that came from blowu You might have heard of hem, his name is on the stadium.

Oh and Meacham is shit, and wouldn't touch him.

[GAustex]

Early in the year I was impressed with UT defense. Good DBs all over the place. Then OSU happened and UT lost damn near their whole secondary. Been tough since then. Too much pressure on the offense now to be perfect. OSU game hurt UT bad.

[TFloss32]

Texas is officially unranked.

[soldierhorn]

watching the rugby world cup on nbc; it's actually better football

[BramonceTaylor]

STFU Blair, your stupid shit is clear as glass.
LMAO. Coming from the guy who thinks we can pull an OC from OU, Beaty could be the defensive answer or that Jerry Gray or someone from OSU or Alabama is coming through that door, this is rich. Use the bye week for a 2 week breather, sport.

[horninok]

Herman is the definition of the 'this is fine' dog sitting in the burning room meme. He would never publicly admit that the his faith in Orlando is shaken. Prior to this game he'd made some comments in interviews about the D, which is more than he usually does. I think he gets it and things are working behind the scenes. At least I hope so. :)


I may be naive but I think Ivan is correct here. I think Herman knows what is going on and has an idea how to fix it but will never publicly call out a coach or a player. There may be several things I wonder about, but on that I believe it is the correct way to handle the media. As much as some fans would like to hear him publicly throw someone under the bus, I do not believe that is the way to attract the right people to the program. As a coach, I can say that I would never discuss or work for a coach that discussed his discontent with me in public. Whether or not Herman can get things fixed remains to be seen.

[BramonceTaylor]

I may be naive but I think Ivan is correct here. I think Herman knows what is going on and has an idea how to fix it but will never publicly call out a coach or a player. There may be several things I wonder about, but on that I believe it is the correct way to handle the media. As much as some fans would like to hear him publicly throw someone under the bus, I do not believe that is the way to attract the right people to the program. As a coach, I can say that I would never discuss or work for a coach that discussed his discontent with me in public. Whether or not Herman can get things fixed remains to be seen.

This is the correct take. Herman is a lot of things, but he's not an idiot, which is different from being a bad football coach (which remains to be seen). If he railroads Orlando publicly (which, as awful as the D was yesterday, wasn't the reason we lost), then nobody wants to do business with him and could effectively end his chance of becoming an elite HC. Barring a meltdown exponentially worse than we've already been this season, I don't expect a mid-season firing. He'll put staff on notice to shop resumes and hope they get picked up elsewhere, if they don't, then he'll drop the ax after the season. Strong wasn't afforded the luxury to treat his coaches this way and that hurt him. Mack cutting Diaz loose mid-season with Gerg waiting in the wings hurt him more than it helped him. We're too used to mid-season firings as a fan base, but it's not normal for a CFB program. Hopefully we get healthy over the next 2 weeks, put a passable defense on the field through the end of the year and Orlando peacefully takes an opportunity elsewhere. I hope Herman has someone in mind and that it's somewhat in the mold of what Les did this year (but without a mid-season firing and promotion for a QC guy). I guess Ash is who everyone is thinking will come in, but an FCS or DII savant would be my preference, because they'd be more likely to accept a staff that they're not familiar with, but are familiar with the recruiting areas. Those obviously aren't growing on trees. It'll be an interesting hiring season.

[Eastexhorn]

Offense needs fixing as bad as the defense. Both have regressed and at least the defense has a lot of injuries as an excuse. I have no ansurer and begening to belive Hermman doesent either.

[Vito Corleone]

LMAO. Coming from the guy who thinks we can pull an OC from OU, Beaty could be the defensive answer or that Jerry Gray or someone from OSU or Alabama is coming through that door, this is rich. Use the bye week for a 2 week breather, sport.

STFU you aggy troll. No one respects you and that is why you have to use a sock. We all have you on ignore. Well time to ignore your sock as well.

[Bloeddyr10]

This is the correct take. Herman is a lot of things, but he's not an idiot, which is different from being a bad football coach (which remains to be seen). If he railroads Orlando publicly (which, as awful as the D was yesterday, wasn't the reason we lost), then nobody wants to do business with him and could effectively end his chance of becoming an elite HC. Barring a meltdown exponentially worse than we've already been this season, I don't expect a mid-season firing. He'll put staff on notice to shop resumes and hope they get picked up elsewhere, if they don't, then he'll drop the ax after the season. Strong wasn't afforded the luxury to treat his coaches this way and that hurt him. Mack cutting Diaz loose mid-season with Gerg waiting in the wings hurt him more than it helped him. We're too used to mid-season firings as a fan base, but it's not normal for a CFB program. Hopefully we get healthy over the next 2 weeks, put a passable defense on the field through the end of the year and Orlando peacefully takes an opportunity elsewhere. I hope Herman has someone in mind and that it's somewhat in the mold of what Les did this year (but without a mid-season firing and promotion for a QC guy). I guess Ash is who everyone is thinking will come in, but an FCS or DII savant would be my preference, because they'd be more likely to accept a staff that they're not familiar with, but are familiar with the recruiting areas. Those obviously aren't growing on trees. It'll be an interesting hiring season.

Just to be clear, I didn't call for Herman to publicly blast Orlando. I just wanted him to let Orlando know what's at stake.

A few weeks ago (after the OU game?) Herman said that this kind of defense wouldn't cut it at Texas (I'm paraphrasing). It's gotten worse, which is why I wanted him to say something similar. I saw other tweets where Herman went a bit more in-depth, but a simple "no" to the original question regarding his faith in Orlando, isn't a good look. As IvanDrago said a few posts up, it's really the "this is fine" dog meme.

I never expected Orlando to be fired mid-season, simply because Texas doesn't have a solid option to turn to. Greg Robinson had been a part of the program before and had been an analyst since the Spring back in 2013. Naivar is the only one with DC experience and is he going to do better than Orlando? I doubt it, especially considering all of the injuries to Naivars position group - he has his hands full with the young guys already. No need to put more on his plate. Has et ever been confirmed that Chris Ash actually is at Texas in an analyst role? At best, he's been part of the program for a month. He's not going to be interim DC.

My biggest issue with Orlando is his inability to adapt. The minute Texas started to get all of these injuries, he should have simplified his defense. All of these late blitze with guys from a different continent (to use Diggs' words) isn't working. It's obvious to anyone what's coming and he's not disguising anything.

If/when Herman needs a new DC, I'm really interested to see the process. Orlando has been his guy since he became a HC. Is he going with Ash, or is Ash being looked at as a DB coach? If Herman looks to someone he doesn't know (i.e. someone he hasn't coached with), is he going to give that guy complete control over the defense and the other coaches on that side of the ball? I'm interested to see if Herman goes out to hire someone to replace Orlando straight up, and keeps Giles, Washington and Naivar, or gives the new guy a blank check to hire his guys assistants.

Honestly, there are probably three to five coaches I could see NOT return in 2020. Herman is going to make or break his Texas tenure this off-season. It's going to be interesting.

[Vito Corleone]

Just to be clear, I didn't call for Herman to publicly blast Orlando. I just wanted him to let Orlando know what's at stake.

A few weeks ago (after the OU game?) Herman said that this kind of defense wouldn't cut it at Texas (I'm paraphrasing). It's gotten worse, which is why I wanted him to say something similar. I saw other tweets where Herman went a bit more in-depth, but a simple "no" to the original question regarding his faith in Orlando, isn't a good look. As IvanDrago said a few posts up, it's really the "this is fine" dog meme.

I never expected Orlando to be fired mid-season, simply because Texas doesn't have a solid option to turn to. Greg Robinson had been a part of the program before and had been an analyst since the Spring back in 2013. Naivar is the only one with DC experience and is he going to do better than Orlando? I doubt it, especially considering all of the injuries to Naivars position group - he has his hands full with the young guys already. No need to put more on his plate. Has et ever been confirmed that Chris Ash actually is at Texas in an analyst role? At best, he's been part of the program for a month. He's not going to be interim DC.

My biggest issue with Orlando is his inability to adapt. The minute Texas started to get all of these injuries, he should have simplified his defense. All of these late blitze with guys from a different continent (to use Diggs' words) isn't working. It's obvious to anyone what's coming and he's not disguising anything.

If/when Herman needs a new DC, I'm really interested to see the process. Orlando has been his guy since he became a HC. Is he going with Ash, or is Ash being looked at as a DB coach? If Herman looks to someone he doesn't know (i.e. someone he hasn't coached with), is he going to give that guy complete control over the defense and the other coaches on that side of the ball? I'm interested to see if Herman goes out to hire someone to replace Orlando straight up, and keeps Giles, Washington and Naivar, or gives the new guy a blank check to hire his guys assistants.

Honestly, there are probably three to five coaches I could see NOT return in 2020. Herman is going to make or break his Texas tenure this off-season. It's going to be interesting.

I can't stand blowu but I admire how quickly they fired baby stoops after we beat them. I wish we could do the same. But I'm guessing we are going to have to lose a few more commitments before that happens.

[BramonceTaylor]

I can't stand blowu but I admire how quickly they fired baby stoops after we beat them. I wish we could do the same. But I'm guessing we are going to have to lose a few more commitments before that happens.
Mike Stoops was there for 6 years you dickhead. And that was after his first stint. Call me a troll again. You’re not a troll, just a dumbass.

[BramonceTaylor]

Just to be clear, I didn't call for Herman to publicly blast Orlando. I just wanted him to let Orlando know what's at stake.

A few weeks ago (after the OU game?) Herman said that this kind of defense wouldn't cut it at Texas (I'm paraphrasing). It's gotten worse, which is why I wanted him to say something similar. I saw other tweets where Herman went a bit more in-depth, but a simple "no" to the original question regarding his faith in Orlando, isn't a good look. As IvanDrago said a few posts up, it's really the "this is fine" dog meme.

I never expected Orlando to be fired mid-season, simply because Texas doesn't have a solid option to turn to. Greg Robinson had been a part of the program before and had been an analyst since the Spring back in 2013. Naivar is the only one with DC experience and is he going to do better than Orlando? I doubt it, especially considering all of the injuries to Naivars position group - he has his hands full with the young guys already. No need to put more on his plate. Has et ever been confirmed that Chris Ash actually is at Texas in an analyst role? At best, he's been part of the program for a month. He's not going to be interim DC.

My biggest issue with Orlando is his inability to adapt. The minute Texas started to get all of these injuries, he should have simplified his defense. All of these late blitze with guys from a different continent (to use Diggs' words) isn't working. It's obvious to anyone what's coming and he's not disguising anything.

If/when Herman needs a new DC, I'm really interested to see the process. Orlando has been his guy since he became a HC. Is he going with Ash, or is Ash being looked at as a DB coach? If Herman looks to someone he doesn't know (i.e. someone he hasn't coached with), is he going to give that guy complete control over the defense and the other coaches on that side of the ball? I'm interested to see if Herman goes out to hire someone to replace Orlando straight up, and keeps Giles, Washington and Naivar, or gives the new guy a blank check to hire his guys assistants.

Honestly, there are probably three to five coaches I could see NOT return in 2020. Herman is going to make or break his Texas tenure this off-season. It's going to be interesting.
I never meant to insinuate that you thought Herman should blast TO or make a mid-season change. Was just agreeing with the poster that responded to you that, despite what TH says, he knows what’s going on. How he addresses it (internally and eventually publicly, even if indirectly) will dictate how his tenure goes.

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I certainly was not saying that Bloeddy. I agree that Orlando has not seemed to be able to adjust. It was one thing when he inherited players from the previous regime that may not have fit his scheme but he should have some of his type of players now. I also agree that special teams have been a nightmare for a long time. Not since Shipley the elder have we had a consistent return. That makes no sense to me. With all of the athletes that have been recruited just by Herman's staff, it is difficult to believe that we can not field a respectable and consistent special teams.

[BramonceTaylor]

Just to be clear, I didn't call for Herman to publicly blast Orlando. I just wanted him to let Orlando know what's at stake.

A few weeks ago (after the OU game?) Herman said that this kind of defense wouldn't cut it at Texas (I'm paraphrasing). It's gotten worse, which is why I wanted him to say something similar. I saw other tweets where Herman went a bit more in-depth, but a simple "no" to the original question regarding his faith in Orlando, isn't a good look. As IvanDrago said a few posts up, it's really the "this is fine" dog meme.

I never expected Orlando to be fired mid-season, simply because Texas doesn't have a solid option to turn to. Greg Robinson had been a part of the program before and had been an analyst since the Spring back in 2013. Naivar is the only one with DC experience and is he going to do better than Orlando? I doubt it, especially considering all of the injuries to Naivars position group - he has his hands full with the young guys already. No need to put more on his plate. Has et ever been confirmed that Chris Ash actually is at Texas in an analyst role? At best, he's been part of the program for a month. He's not going to be interim DC.

My biggest issue with Orlando is his inability to adapt. The minute Texas started to get all of these injuries, he should have simplified his defense. All of these late blitze with guys from a different continent (to use Diggs' words) isn't working. It's obvious to anyone what's coming and he's not disguising anything.

If/when Herman needs a new DC, I'm really interested to see the process. Orlando has been his guy since he became a HC. Is he going with Ash, or is Ash being looked at as a DB coach? If Herman looks to someone he doesn't know (i.e. someone he hasn't coached with), is he going to give that guy complete control over the defense and the other coaches on that side of the ball? I'm interested to see if Herman goes out to hire someone to replace Orlando straight up, and keeps Giles, Washington and Naivar, or gives the new guy a blank check to hire his guys assistants.

Honestly, there are probably three to five coaches I could see NOT return in 2020. Herman is going to make or break his Texas tenure this off-season. It's going to be interesting.
Flight landed, so I’ll try to go a bit deeper in my thoughts. Not trying blast you or your opinions, which I think are fair and reasoned.

I’m no Herman apologist, but the “no” answer was what I think is the only answer there. He’s got to recruit future players (currently committed and otherwise) and likely a future DC and staff. A no faith vote in the public hurts both of those causes which are the life blood of a program. Orlando and co. absolutely know that Herman and the rest of the world is pissed at them, unless I’m overestimating Herman by 1000%. No matter what people think of Herman, I can’t imagine he showed up today all smiles and said “weekend off friends, let’s look forward to relaxing for a bit.” As fans, we want blood and shame, but from an organizational standpoint, it’s good that Herman knows not to blow up his subordinates.

Where I can’t back Herman is with how the offense and Ehlinger have regressed this season. Zero imagination, totally predicable. The same low percentage 1st down play followed by a run for no gain, etc. It’s infuriating. Herman needs to offload some of his responsibility if it’s too hard to game plan for a broken team like TCU. Any semblance of a coherent game plan puts TCU away in the first half. If you let bad teams hang around, you’re gonna get beat, or smoked like we were in the 2H. While the D was bad, the O did them zero favors and lost the game imo given their health relative to our scotch taped defense.

[satam55]

OC's are hard to come by but I would look at offenses that are both putting up big numbers and putting guys in the league. Let's start with the OC in Norman, we can out bid to gooners for him since it's probably going to be Riley leaving for the NFL. Then I would look at the OC in LSU or one of the New Orleans Saints OCs. That dude worked wonders on the LSU offense.

DC is easier. I'd look first at the two guys we have already on campus, Beaty and Ash, if neither is what we are looking for then next I'd look at Jerry Gray and finally I'd look at the DCs in Ohio State and Bama.

Of course we could maybe money whip Aranda (sp).

I like Giles and our RB coach, and hand, but all the others are now up for grabs.

If this doesn't work then Tom has to go.

If we get rid of Tom I'm looking hard at the dude in Iowa State and maybe pulling an aggsy and money whipping a big name like Urban or dare I say it. Dabo.

WTF?! Everyone knows Lincoln Riley is still the playcaller for OU even after becoming the Head Coach. Most people don't even know who the hell the current non-playcalling OC for OU is without looking it up. I sure don't. It would just make more sense to hire a proven Air Raid OC playcaller like Doug Meacham instead of hiring OU's no-name unproven OC.


Also David Beatty is an offensive guy, not a defensive guy. He was the WR Coach on Kevin Sumlin's A&M staff before he took the KU Head Coaching job.



My bad on the Beaty thing, for some reason I must have confused him with one of the other analyst we have on staff. As for the OC at jokelahoma, Maybe just maybe something has rubbed off because Riley has been running the best offense in the country for the last 3 years. I seem to remember a pretty good Texas coach that came from blowu You might have heard of hem, his name is on the stadium.

Oh and Meacham is shit, and wouldn't touch him.
Doug Meachum was a great playcaller when he was TCU's co-OC. What changed that we'd look down on him as a OC hire?

[BramonceTaylor]

Doug Meachum was a great playcaller when he was TCU's co-OC. What changed that we'd look down on him as a OC hire?
do you think he wound up in the XFL because he was such a good playcaller?

[Blake]

Doug Meachum was a great playcaller when he was TCU's co-OC. What changed that we'd look down on him as a OC hire?

Meh it was mostly Cumbie

[TheMex]

I am scared to follow recruiting this week.

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[satam55]

Doug Meachum was a great playcaller when he was TCU's co-OC. What changed that we'd look down on him as a OC hire?


Meh it was mostly Cumbie
You sure? Yeah Cumbie has always been thought of the QB guru, but TCU fans on Twitter are always complaining how much Cumbie sucks as a playcaller. I don't remember them ever complaining about Meachum as a playcaller.

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[Blake]

You sure? Yeah Cumbie has always been thought of the QB guru, but TCU fans on Twitter are always complaining how much Cumbie sucks as a playcaller. I don't remember them ever complaining about Meachum as a playcaller.

It helps when your QB is Boykin.

If they fire Cumbie I'd gladly take him back over this hippie we currently have as OC in Lubbock

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Week 10 television schedule.

West Virginia at Baylor on Thursday.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/schedule/_/week/10

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Updated coaches hot seat.

http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm

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[pgardn]

Updated coaches hot seat.

http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm

Kirby Smart at #22....?

If this is real then Herman and a number of others should be in the top 20.
Hell put Riley from OU in there since he lost last weekend.

[Blake]

Updated coaches hot seat.

http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm

Dana just got to Houston and he's already at 20?

Lol probably not

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[Eastexhorn]

The open post has some good points on coaching and coaches.

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The open post has some good points on coaching and coaches.
Link?

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Link?

Post #7566 above.

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I love ol' Earl--fortunate to see him play a lot. But this is stupid. Ehlinger's problem is not a lack of running ability. Is he the quickest player in the land? No, but he's got great pocket awareness (normally), runs a bit faster than might seem considering his size, and has a lot more wiggle in his moves than also would seem apparent. He also is normally hell to bring down by one, sometimes, two guys.
If anything, a bigger problem is the general LACK of having him tote the pigskin more readily.
Defenses are not having to account as much for him, and that closes things for other players.

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Per The Football Brainiacs, WR Dajon Harrison of Hutto was on campus today.

https://247sports.com/Player/Dajon-Harrison-46051172/

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A few sites have been saying recently to keep an eye on CB Jahdae Barron of Pflugerville Connally.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jahdae-Barron-46082207/

[Dennis the Menace]

What’s worse?

Todd Orlando growing up Favorite Comedian - Andrew Dice Clay
Favorite Pro Athlete - Brian Bosworth

or

Charlie Strong’s Favorite Musical Artist - DJ Khaled

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Inside Texas saying the staff checked on CB Kitan Crawford today and he mentioned he's locked in.

Based on how things are going and what they're hearing, they believe UT coaches should focus on recruiting the commitments this week.

[Bloeddyr10]

Inside Texas saying the staff checked on CB Kitan Crawford today and he mentioned he's locked in.

Based on how things are going and what they're hearing, they believe UT coaches should focus on recruiting the commitments this week.

Just how you want to spend your bye week....

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Just how you want to spend your bye week....

On that note, from Inside Texas...

"My biggest frustration is hearing things straight from 2017. These issues should have been fixed. The people who say Herman isn't negatively affected by arrogance, you're as off as saying Charlie Strong wasn't disorganized."

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[Bloeddyr10]

On that note, from Inside Texas...

"My biggest frustration is hearing things straight from 2017. These issues should have been fixed. The people who say Herman isn't negatively affected by arrogance, you're as off as saying Charlie Strong wasn't disorganized."

I can't help but wonder if things might be worse behind the scenes, than what we actually think.

[satam55]

An insider poster on the surlyhorns forums just posted this:



I'll say this: Mehringer is predictably handling the meltdown after OU worse than anyone else on the staff. He puts that on display by berating and shaming his players, and Meekins' guys, during both practice and film study. He's completely despised by those he coaches and he's running around whining about deserving to keep his job. He's got every player in his purview actively telling people that they hate it at Texas playing for him, and then they're getting in front of recruits in the same vein.

This stumbling fuck-up hipster dufus is going to actively yet accidentally burn his part of the program down to the slab before the season ends. I have no idea whether Herman has the capacity or awareness to do anything about it, and no one else is sure either. Our best hope is that he gets hit by a bus walking across campus, or that Casey Horny organizes a team rape train on him for grins during the off-weekend.

[pgardn]

This all just sucks.

[Kermit]

An insider poster on the surlyhorns forums just posted this:



I'll say this: Mehringer is predictably handling the meltdown after OU worse than anyone else on the staff. He puts that on display by berating and shaming his players, and Meekins' guys, during both practice and film study. He's completely despised by those the coaches and he's running around whining about deserving to keep his job. He's got every player in his purview actively telling people that they hate it at Texas playing for him, and then they're getting in front of recruits in the same vein.

This stumbling fuck-up hipster dufus is going to actively yet accidentally burn his part of the program down to the slab before the season ends. I have no idea whether Herman has the capacity or awareness to do anything about it, and no one else is sure either. Our best hope is that he gets hit by a bus walking across campus, or that Casey Horny organizes a team rape train on him for grins during the off-weekend.

This is fine.

[TFloss32]

An insider poster on the surlyhorns forums just posted this:



I'll say this: Mehringer is predictably handling the meltdown after OU worse than anyone else on the staff. He puts that on display by berating and shaming his players, and Meekins' guys, during both practice and film study. He's completely despised by those the coaches and he's running around whining about deserving to keep his job. He's got every player in his purview actively telling people that they hate it at Texas playing for him, and then they're getting in front of recruits in the same vein.

This stumbling fuck-up hipster dufus is going to actively yet accidentally burn his part of the program down to the slab before the season ends. I have no idea whether Herman has the capacity or awareness to do anything about it, and no one else is sure either. Our best hope is that he gets hit by a bus walking across campus, or that Casey Horny organizes a team rape train on him for grins during the off-weekend.

Mehringer is up there on my list of guys I'd like to see move on.

He's had that rep since he arrived, and we certainly don't need two damn WR coaches.

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They hired Cincinnati's AD today.

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I love stuff like this! There is so much negative crap... and pom-pom nonsense that it's refreshing to see a GENUINE positive story

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We must start winning and playing better.
If we lose Bijan I will have yet another nervy B.
I cant take this.
I have invested too much in this team.

Will seek counseling. and Root for England in Rugby or something.

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[Jbug]

We must start winning and playing better.
If we lose Bijan I will have yet another nervy B.
I cant take this.
I have invested too much in this team.

Will seek counseling. and Root for England in Rugby or something.

Been scheduling my Saturdays around to watch Longhorn football. Another shitty performance next Saturday and I'm done for this year. Got to many other things I could be doing.

[soldierhorn]

Will seek counseling. and Root for England in Rugby or something.

Every year I find that I watch more and more rugby

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[Eastexhorn]

Special teams and speed was the downfall of SMU.

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FSU had their worst loss to Miami since 2001 yesterday.

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OrangeBloods is saying things are still solid with Ja'Quinden Jackson tonight. He's 100% solid.

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[Vito Corleone]

maybe if Tom Herman doesn't make it at Texas we can get Matt Rhule. :fishing

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Week 11 television schedule.

Tuesday and Wednesday games starting.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/schedule/_/week/11

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The Football Brainiacs posted this morning that Herman had another meeting with the freshmen in hopes of reeling a few guys back in due to transfer talk.

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OrangeBloods is saying things are still solid with Ja'Quinden Jackson tonight. He's 100% solid.

I think this one will be ok since Texas is giving him a shot at QB, but between now and the first signing day is a long time in recruiting.

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[TheMex]

The Football Brainiacs posted this morning that Herman had another meeting with the freshmen in hopes of reeling a few guys back in due to transfer talk.
Do we have an idea who they are?

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Do we have an idea who they are?

No, but Watson and Washington's fathers weren't happy after the TCU game.

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[IvanDrago]

No, but Watson and Washington's fathers weren't happy after the TCU game.
The fact that we are about to fuck up the recruiting and headway we’ve made over the past couple seasons seriously boggles the mind.

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Inside Texas reporting LB Jaqwondis Burns of IMG Academy should officially visit UT this weekend.

https://247sports.com/player/jaqwondis-burns-46078938/

[TFloss32]

The fact that we are about to fuck up the recruiting and headway we’ve made over the past couple seasons seriously boggles the mind.

It's going to be a white-knuckled finish for sure.

24/7 said this morning we need to watch RB Bijan Robinson closely if USC hires Meyer.

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Hopefully this kid is still a take for Ohio State.

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Bob Stoops to FSU. Coach in waiting scenario with young protege probably Briles. Same scenario with Bobby & Jimbo a decade before

FSU athletic department is currently in transition. The current AD is a business man first with little athletic managing experience. Probably aided in dumping Taggart ad he saw the financial cost of lose in ticket sales and overall revenue possibly outweighted Taggart's buyout. Tallahassee local business is heavily reliant on the success of the football program.

But if the scenario above is true then I am very impressed.

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[woofwoof]

Wouldn't it be something if FSU and USC were to go after Urban Meyer due to coaching needs? Dude could make a lot of money...

[pgardn]

No, but Watson and Washington's fathers weren't happy after the TCU game.

Watson's Dad is a coach...

Crap. Thats not good.
And we would lose another couple of out of Staters, thats not good.

So Herman was a hot commodity due to his assistant coaching jobs and the job he did at Houston.
Houston apparently a phenomenal QB and DT. Better than anything we have now, thats not good.

What's good?

And I look to the bottom of this thread and see a dearth of names checking in, we dont bail on our team, thats not good.
So my dilemma here is we have to win. But... if we win and these apparently deep coaching issues remain (like our WR coach), thats not good.

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[TheMex]

I call bullshit, Blair told me to not listen to Floss.

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The Football Brainiacs saying this one could go public as early as tomorrow.

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Tallahassee reporter.

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[Kermit]

Tallahassee reporter.

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Lots of dicks in Florida.

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Updated coaching hot seat.

Helton of USC takes over #1.

http://coacheshotseat.com/

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Per The Football Brainiacs, Coach Washington hasn't been in touch with CB Jahdae Barron of Pflugerville Connally in about two weeks despite Texas only having one CB commitment at this time.

They went on to speculate Coach Washington may be on the chopping block, but I don't really agree with that right now.

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JUCO ATH Maureese Wren (Tyler J.C.)

Y'all may remember him from Mesquite Horn a few years ago.

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Reminds me a little of Daje Johnson. Great speed and change of direction. He's going to be a good football player for sure.

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Per The Football Brainiacs, Coach Washington hasn't been in touch with CB Jahdae Barron of Pflugerville Connally in about two weeks despite Texas only having one CB commitment at this time.

They went on to speculate Coach Washington may be on the chopping block, but I don't really agree with that right now.

They're now saying Coach Washington reached out to Barron this morning.

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Per OrangeBloods, 2021 CB Ishmael Ibraheem of Dallas Kimball will be in Austin this weekend.

https://247sports.com/Player/Ishmael-Ibraheem-46059429/

[pgardn]

If we win this next game with a good showing I will sleep well.
I thought the board would be happy to know this.


Lots of kids still professing belief, we are still recruiting.

[texas4ever]

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Per his Instagram, 2021 WR Latrell Neville of Fort Bend Hightower will be making a commitment on Friday, November 22nd.

As of right now, I don't expect it to be Texas.

https://247sports.com/Player/Latrell-Neville-46054704/

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According to OrangeBloods, WR Dajon Harrison of Hutto will use his UT official visit this weekend.

https://247sports.com/Player/Dajon-Harrison-46051172/

[Eastexhorn]

Harrison is a great plckup. Should finish WR recruitment a couple of LBS and a OL should take care of needs to balance roster IMO.

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On injuries for Saturday, OrangeBloods reporting RB Jordan Whittington and S DeMarvion Overshown are questionable.

Safeties BJ Foster and Caden Sterns are listed as probable.

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Below are this weekend's visitors (per all sites)

2020
WR, Dajon Harrison, Hutto
OL, Jaylen Garth, Port Neches-Groves
LB, Jaqwondis Burns, IMG Academy (Bradenton, FL)
LB, Prince Dorbah, Dallas Highland Park
ATH, Jaden Hullaby, Mansfield Timberview

2021
QB, Jalen Milroe, Katy Tompkins
TE, Juan Davis, Everman
TE, Lake McRee, Austin Lake Travis
CB, Ishmael Ibraheem, Dallas Kimball

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Per Inside Texas, Herman and Coach Giles went by Bastrop Cedar Creek this morning to see DE Alfred Collins.

https://247sports.com/Player/Alfred-Collins-46047351/

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Inside Texas saying ATH Kendre Miller of Mount Enterprise will be attending the Texas Tech game the Friday after Thanksgiving.

He should be an inside LB on the next level.

Mount Enterprise is about 30 minutes north of Nacogdoches near Carthage and Henderson.

https://247sports.com/Player/Kendre-Miller-46080022/

https://www.hudl.com/profile/7977533/Kendre-Miller

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Inside Texas mentioned WR Marcus Washington and LB Byron (Hobbs) Vaughns are two guys the staff will need to keep "engaged" the rest of the year.

They said keep an eye on how the 2020 class fills out in order to see what attrition could occur.

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Per Inside Texas, Herman and Coach Giles went by Bastrop Cedar Creek this morning to see DE Alfred Collins.

https://247sports.com/Player/Alfred-Collins-46047351/

The Football Brainiacs are reporting Collins will be at the game tomorrow.

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I'm thinking close game, UT 33 KSU 29

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oh crap

Like OU needs another star receiver

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2021 OL Bryce Foster of Katy Taylor in Austin today.

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2021 RB Darius Hale (Pearland)

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2021 CB Hunter Washington (Katy)

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[Ballin42]

5-6 135yds 2TDs in 9 min

[benefactor]

Fourth and a foot and you are punting down two scores. Who the fuck is this team?

[Kermit]

Fourth and a foot and you are punting down two scores. Who the fuck is this team?

They go for it on 4th all season except when it actually makes sense. Nice to see the defense made improvements during the bye week.

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Fourth and a foot and you are punting down two scores. Who the fuck is this team?

That was scared football.

The offense has no confidence.

[benefactor]

And lo and behold, they show up in the second half.

[Trill Clinton]

Poor preparation coming out of a bye week.

[benefactor]

Poor preparation coming out of a bye week.
At least they managed some adjustments. Still, the inconsistency is maddening.

[benefactor]

And there's the reason Sam will never be a pro QB. Should be a great TE though

[benefactor]

Its like these teams changed jerseys at halftime

[IvanDrago]

So we saw no Jake Smith at all, what do we make of that?

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We did it...somehow.

[Vito Corleone]

Glad to see the win, but wow, this team is not very good.

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[pgardn]

We beat a ranked team.
Off to Iowa.

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[Kermit]

Glad to see the win, but wow, this team is not very good.

It’s got to be one of the dumbest Texas teams I’ve ever seen.

[Blake]

We did it...somehow.

That third down throw by Sam was clutch