2020 Texas Longhorns Recruiting Thread

[pgardn]

RB Ty Jordan of West Mesquite has flipped to Utah.

Welp...

There goes our little mobile tank unit.

[pgardn]

So I am really confused as to what we need to do in this bowl game.
Get guys in place and new systems set and then show super improvement?
I dont see this happening.

What does the coaching, the performance, uhhhh, what does it need to look like NOT to lose more kids?

And do we seriously have any shot at Ringo?

[Vdem]

Welp...

There goes our little mobile tank unit.
But we have a bigger tank in RJ, and help coming in that position

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[Blake]

Unsurprisingly a Tech guy doesn’t understand the bowl selection process or have reading comprehension. Where Texas ended up in the standings has nothing to do with which bowl they go to.


Read better

:lol calm down I'm just fucking around

[Vito Corleone]

Very disappointed we lost Jordan to Utah. he is the kind of back that has caused me countless nights of heart ache, it would have been nice to have a kid like him for once. Oh well, there is always the next guy. Hope he likes white women, there ain't too many black women in Utah, actually there ain't too many black anything in Utah.

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CB Isaiah Dunson (Tucker, GA)

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https://www.hudl.com/profile/8051493/Isaiah-Dunson

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[Hook Em 88]

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I would think we can out pay them, no? Hope it doesn’t hurt us with JQJ.

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[bluetrumpet]

Any idea when we will sign some coordinators?

[Vito Corleone]

It's most important that we sign the DC ASAP otherwise we could be SOOL for some top recruits.

[TFloss32]

Any idea when we will sign some coordinators?

Very quiet right now.

The Football Brainiacs posted an update at lunch that two USC sources are confident Graham Harrell is staying put.

However, it's a good sign for Texas if things stay silent and we aren't hearing any new names for offensive coordinator.

[texas4ever]

Very quiet right now.

The Football Brainiacs posted an update at lunch that two USC sources are confident Graham Harrell is staying put.

However, it's a good sign for Texas if things stay silent and we aren't hearing any new names for offensive coordinator.

Harrell's waiting for the final bid to come in. I do believe silence on the USC side is a very good sign for Texas.

Anwar also just had an non-update update. It is eerily quiet out there right now.

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I would think we can out pay them, no? Hope it doesn’t hurt us with JQJ.

LOL. Nobody would lose any sleep of we lost Tim Beck.

[TFloss32]

Per Inside Texas, DT Sawyer Goram-Welch of Longview will be officially visiting Texas next weekend.

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Herman checking on 2021 OL Donovan Jackson of Bellaire Episcopal.

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Per Inside Texas, Barry Odom has not been offered the DC job by UT.

He is supposedly headed to be Arkansas' DC if he doesn't get the Memphis job.

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Per his Instagram, RB Jordan Whittington had another surgery.

[Vito Corleone]

Per his Instagram, RB Jordan Whittington had another surgery.

Why is it every time we get a guy named Jordan, we can't keep him healthy? First it was Shipley, then it was Jordan Hicks, now Jordan Whittington. It's the curse of Jordan.

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[Trill Clinton]

Anyone planning on attending the Wagner and Shadow Creek game tomorrow?

[Biggems]

Anyone planning on attending the Wagner and Shadow Creek game tomorrow?

No, but will be rooting for little sister to get one for JISD...btw, I said sister cause the school is named after a woman.

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[rjv]

Anyone planning on attending the Wagner and Shadow Creek game tomorrow?

thinking about it. my neighbor across the street from me is the head coach for wagner so want to lend him some support.

[rjv]

No, but will be rooting for little sister to get one for JISD...btw, I said sister cause the school is named after a woman.

gonna be weird next season when wagner likely jumps back into 26-6A. judson will now be a DII team, along with wagner. (steele and clemens will likely be the DI teams.)

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According to The Football Brainiacs, WR Quentin Johnston (Temple) and WR Troy Omeire (Fort Bend Austin) will be officially visiting UT this weekend.

Great news on Johnston as that means this will be his last visit before signing next week.

[pgardn]

According to The Football Brainiacs, WR Quentin Johnston (Temple) and WR Troy Omeire (Fort Bend Austin) will be officially visiting UT this weekend.

Great news on Johnston as that means this will be his last visit before signing next week.

We need these guys.
We need to keep Bijan and all our offensive linemen.
We need to keep our DT and get Collins.

What else? Linebackers on defense... Keep Safeties and replace the Florida guy...
All without coordinators set.
damn...

I should not say this. I dont know how many guys we are getting "early"

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[TFloss32]

From Inside Texas' Friday post...talks with Graham Harrell have picked up substantially and a deal is more likely than not at this point.

The hold-up can be attributed to numerous factors such as Harrell's agent feeling out head coaching situations, wanting to finish out the year with USC, determining which assistants he would hire at UT, etc.

Texas is fine with the process playing out at this point to avoid a situation like USC had with Kingsbury this time last year.

They're even hearing rumors of a deal being done with a certain coach already, but they haven't been able to confirm a name.

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[TheMex]

Inside Texas very confident that Bijan will sign with Texas. Thank God.

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[Blake]

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I'm surprised he waited this long

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That's pretty amazing when you think about all the fun n gun QBs that went through Florida.

[SlickStreet]

That's pretty amazing when you think about all the fun n gun QBs that went through Florida.

good point.
Though there's to me some 'apples to oranges' in this. Regular seasons often are a game longer and rules continue to aid offenses for the most part over the defenses, especially vs 15-20 years ago and beyond.

'Course, some of it is simply the greater emphasis in such offenses as the high school and lower levels: players offensively are pretty advanced over many of their predecessors.

[Blake]

good point.
Though there's to me some 'apples to oranges' in this. Regular seasons often are a game longer and rules continue to aid offenses for the most part over the defenses, especially vs 15-20 years ago and beyond.

'Course, some of it is simply the greater emphasis in such offenses as the high school and lower levels: players offensively are pretty advanced over many of their predecessors.

The no huddle offenses also play a part.

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[bluetrumpet]

Any update on Ja’Quindens injury? Leg looked pretty broken...hopefully nothing with his ligaments

[TFloss32]

Any update on Ja’Quindens injury? Leg looked pretty broken...hopefully nothing with his ligaments

For those who don't know...

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[Billybass]

JaTavion Sanders put on a SHOW today in Denton Ryan 35-7 victory over lone star (came in ranked #1 tonight n state). He had a pick 6 called back, but did record 3 sacks, and caught a 50 yard bomb, and had several other catches. That young man is a stud ! Can’t wait to see him in burnt orange ! Oh , and Billy Bowman had a pick 6 !

[Billybass]

There is a lot more talent in the Ryan pipeline, and with the DeLaTorres there,
looks good for longhorns !

[Hook Em 88]

Any update on Ja’Quindens injury? Leg looked pretty broken...hopefully nothing with his ligaments

Coach Samples had said possible torn ACL, won’t know until Monday for sure. Hate to see it, one could only imagine how bad he wanted the North Shore rematch. When Duncanville went 35-0 I was starting to worry every time I saw him run and thought it was time for the backup to come in.

[TFloss32]

LB Ja'Qwondis Burns of IMG Academy commits to Minnesota.

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Ahhh yes. Dude has been faithful since his high school senior season when he could have gone anywhere.

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Funny there's a tiger next to him since he'll probably be in Cincinnati next year

[Bloeddyr10]

Apparently Nahlin of Inside Texas is hinting that Chris Ash as DC is pretty much a done deal. Not sure just yet what to think of it.

Hopefully this has been more of an actual search and process than it seems, because it's seems an awful lot like another comfort hire.

[TFloss32]

Apparently Nahlin of Inside Texas is hinting that Chris Ash as DC is pretty much a done deal. Not sure just yet what to think of it.

Hopefully this has been more of an actual search and process than it seems, because it's seems an awful lot like another comfort hire.

They had mentioned Ash could be a co-DC, so I'm anxious to see if he is indeed the main guy.

That post this morning made it seem that way.

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[satam55]

Chip Brown had this positive update on Graham Harrell last night:


Saturday, 7:45 pm - Hearing USC offensive coordinator Graham Harrell has been getting an early start on working some misdirection and is still VERY much in the mix to succeed Tim Beck at Texas. (Chip Brown)

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[benefactor]

Meh

[Kermit]

Can someone explain to me why I’m supposed to be angry about this hire?

[IvanDrago]

Fuck it, let’s see what he can do. As long as they play fundamentally sound we should be much improved.

[texbound]

Can someone explain to me why I’m supposed to be angry about this hire?

Why would someone be angry about this hire? Not sure who else was "really available" right now. Ash and Herman probably mesh well together and have a similar philosophy. Urban Meyer has nothing but great things to say about Ash.

[Vito Corleone]

I'm actually happy if it is Chris Ash. He is a former DB coach so he is going to know a thing or two about how to defend some of these passing offenses. No matter who we hire, it's going to be a gamble, but I'd rather gamble on a guy who has proven he can win a championship as a DC elsewhere.

As for Harrell, he had a hell of a offense at USC and we have the guns to give him a hell of an offense here.


Overall, i have to say if these are the guys we get, then i can't complain. This is Tom Herman's reset, he has a two year window to prove he can handle being the Coach at Texas or he is gone.

[benefactor]

Can someone explain to me why I’m supposed to be angry about this hire?
I'm not mad, but I'm not excited either. He was good at OSU before heading to Rutgers but he's also another comfort hire as he and Herman have worked together before. This hire will make or break Herman.

[Billybass]

Well, I hope his defense stays healthier than Orlando’s did last year. We had a freakin walkon playing in the secondary last year. If they would have been healthier last year Orlando is still here. My 2 cents.

[GAustex]

The OSU game ruined UTs season.

[TFloss32]

Per Inside Texas, the hold-up with the OC hire is not Harrell or money, but Herman having second thoughts about giving up control of the offense.

[Blake]

The OSU game ruined UTs season.

Right because it would have been a success otherwise!

[GAustex]

Right because it would have been a success otherwise!
No one will ever know but I seem to recall 4 DBs going down in that game. Up til that point the horns were playing ok.

[Kermit]

Per Inside Texas, the hold-up with the OC hire is not Harrell or money, but Herman having second thoughts about giving up control of the offense.

Fuck you Tom.

[texas4ever]

There's no doubt that injuries played a major role in Texas' defense this year and if they stayed healthy Texas probably has an entirely different outcome to the season. Regardless of this, the inability of Orlando to adjust to his players and dumbing-down the defense ultimately cost him in the end. That and zero blitzing on third and long from a city outside of the current town he was playing in.

Ash will simplify things and focus more on fundamentals. He also will bring a 4 man front (3 man fronts do work with a stud up front- ask Baylor) to the equations, helping with pressure on the QB and this will help free up the secondary to do secondary things like cover WR's.

I'll also be surprised if any of the coaches on D are kept around (Giles maybe).

[DMX7]

Just holding together our recruiting class would be a huge victory.

[woofwoof]

Per Inside Texas, the hold-up with the OC hire is not Harrell or money, but Herman having second thoughts about giving up control of the offense.

If this is true, Herman wont/shouldn't be here too much longer. His offense was given a chance and it didnt work. Give it up. Be like Mack and make sure ALL the facets of the game are taken care of rather then thinking he is an offensive genius. Everybody else that needed to replace personnel has just about done so already but us. Finalize it and get it done. But then again, "info" could be bs as well.

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[Vito Corleone]

I am very disturbed that Tom is holding up the hiring of the OC because he can't give up power. I swear he can't get out of his own way. He should have been fired after this season, but in the infinite wisdom of CDC he gave him another chance and now Tom thinks he is in position to decide who has the power over the offense. He needs to shut up and accept this gracious offer of letting him keep his job.

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[TFloss32]

As of this morning, Inside Texas believes a potential Graham Harrell hire is fading / less likely and they don't see it as something Del Conte will force Herman to do.

[Kermit]

As of this morning, Inside Texas believes a potential Graham Harrell hire is fading / less likely and they don't see it as something Del Conte will force Herman to do.

Fuck this goddamn clown show.

[benefactor]

You've got to be fucking kidding me

[Cowhorns01]

He wants to run the same unimaginative offense that sucked this year. He will be gone in 1 to 2 years.

[GregoryJim]

For the love of God. Please stop whimpering about our coaching hires. We won the natty with Brewster GDavis and McWorter. And Mack was the HC.

Just watch the recruit ranking. Hand and Herman are miles better. They just gotta get the Playaz. Your running plays will look great if JQ is running the read option w Bijan v Shane handing to Dan Young.

[Vito Corleone]

Mark my words, we are looking for a new head coach in 2 years. Tom Herman is starting to remind me of John Mackovic.

[Blake]

As of this morning, Inside Texas believes a potential Graham Harrell hire is fading / less likely and they don't see it as something Del Conte will force Herman to do.

So close to getting a Mike Leach tree guy like the rest of the big 12.

So close..

[Kermit]

For the love of God. Please stop whimpering about our coaching hires. We won the natty with Brewster GDavis and McWorter. And Mack was the HC.

Just watch the recruit ranking. Hand and Herman are miles better. They just gotta get the Playaz. Your running plays will look great if JQ is running the read option w Bijan v Shane handing to Dan Young.

Vince Young ain’t walking through that door.

[TFloss32]

Mark my words, we are looking for a new head coach in 2 years. Tom Herman is starting to remind me of John Mackovic.

I am a dude with a keyboard, but I fully expect Herman's leash to be extra short in 2020, especially if he can't make great hires having a blank check for the second time.

Mark me down as super skeptical that Herman goes something like 8-4 and/or misses the conference game, and survives to open up the new stadium in 2021.

This doesn't even include potential recruiting misses from a really deep 2021 class, like whiffing on the Brockermeyers.

[SlickStreet]

Vince Young ain’t walking through that door.

exactly. And, even factoring injuries, that team this year should have been better than 7-5 (and almost 6-6, barely escaping Kansas, a team Baylor beat 61-6)

[SlickStreet]

As of this morning, Inside Texas believes a potential Graham Harrell hire is fading / less likely and they don't see it as something Del Conte will force Herman to do.

and, as I'm sure you surmise, no way CDC forces Herman to hire Harrell or anyone else. Herman apparently started getting extremely cold feet at the idea of relinquishing that much control of the offense and, quite possibly, practice procedures (supposedly it's really hard on the defensive coaches when an air raid OC runs things in practice like he wants to)

[SlickStreet]

TFloss32 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16684) were you going to post this? bye qj

maybe I should know, but who's the giant pic at the bottom of your post? It's impossible not to notice, that's for sure.

[TFloss32]

On WR Quentin Johnston of Temple...Inside Texas reporting this one is pretty much a coin flip for Wednesday.

The official visit didn't seem to solidify his commitment, TCU is still pursuing hard and Texas has no OC or WRs coach in place.

[TFloss32]

On WR Quentin Johnston of Temple...Inside Texas reporting this one is pretty much a coin flip for Wednesday.

The official visit didn't seem to solidify his commitment, TCU is still pursuing hard and Texas has no OC or WRs coach in place.

24/7 believes this is 70/30 in favor of Texas.

[Billybass]

Herman probably figures that he is gone if they don’t win anyway, so he might as well go down swinging. From what I saw the offense struggled almost as much as the defense. But the offense didn’t have as many injuries. I hope he can turn it around, I’m sick of watching OU celebrate. That damn fight song is nauseating!

[Vito Corleone]

All I can say is if TH is going to save his job, he better pull a rabbit out of his ass because anything less than a conference championship isn't going to work for him.

Coaching a the University of Texas is like dating the homecoming queen and she hands you a bunch of condoms. It doesn't get easier than that. How anyone can F this up is beyond me. All you have to do is perform and you are a god in this state. And here we have have Tom Herman, f'ing up his sure thing. I'm disgusted.

[longhorncliff]

I come back here to check on how things are doing, hoping for the best.Looks like we are going to screw this up.

[texas4ever]

I'll see myself out the front door.

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[elbamba1]

Perhaps Herman knew Harrell was going to stay at USC and this allowed him to save face by making it look like Herman lost interest. That is what I am telling myself anyway.

[texas4ever]

Call it what you will- stubbornness, hard-headed, unwilling to adapt to change, but Herman was never going to change what he believed in on offense that made him successful. That and bringing a young guy in to run their offense was way too much pride for him to swallow. It wouldn't surprise me one bit that Major is his guy.

[texas4ever]

Perhaps Herman knew Harrell was going to stay at USC and this allowed him to save face by making it look like Herman lost interest. That is what I am telling myself anyway.

I don't believe so, IMO.

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I'll see myself out the front door.

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[Kermit]

Zach Smith, if you have some pictures of Tom with some whores now is the time to drop them. Whores and cocaine. Thank you.

[Hook Em 88]

If Joe Brady (LSU OC) is not in play we’re screwed.

[IvanDrago]

If Joe Brady (LSU OC) is not in play we’re screwed.

Well then we are screwed.

[playblair]

If Joe Brady (LSU OC) is not in play we’re screwed.

u should start preparing urself for lashlee which is somehow going to be worse than if we kept beck

[satam55]

If Joe Brady (LSU OC) is not in play we’re screwed.
Joe Brady & LSU already announced after the SEC title game that he's coming back to LSU.

[satam55]

u should start preparing urself for lashlee which is somehow going to be worse than if we kept beck
Lashlee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Beck

[soldierhorn]

Call it what you will- stubbornness, hard-headed, unwilling to adapt to change, but Herman was never going to change what he believed in on offense that made him successful. That and bringing a young guy in to run their offense was way too much pride for him to swallow. It wouldn't surprise me one bit that Major is his guy.
agree... I think Harrell likely wanted majority control of the offense like he does at USC and Herman thinks he is the offensive genius, "if only... blah blah blah..." so in the end, they couldnt make it work.
I'm not sure this is actually a bad thing right now. If Herman had 2-3 years to revamp the offensive personnel around Harrell's philosophy, then maybe it could work (assuming Herman would want that change) but I think Herman has to show significant improvement in 2020 or it could be over for him or the situation certainly could become desperate after Ehlinger leaves. I think Herman wants someone that believes in his offensive philosophy but with new twists to tweak what they already have.

[playblair]

Lashlee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Beck

247 just put out and update that k state oc Courtney Messingham is now the leader to become oc..........he coached with herman at isu so it would be another comfort hire

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Quentin Johnston flips to TCU

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[TFloss32]

Quentin Johnston flips to TCU

Brutal.

[texbound]

Brutal.

This one hurts, not as much if the Horns lost Bijan, but it still hurts. The WR room has quickly gone from a room of plenty to a potential future concern. You have Eagles, Smith (hopefully), Woodard, Epps, Washington, Lewis, Omiere, and Harrison. Gone is Pouncey and probably Joshua Moore. Johnston would've competed for time. There is no other team (or coach) i want to see beat down more than TCU and Patterson (yes, OU is still up there, but TCU has been a thorn in Texas for a while now).

[Dennis the Menace]

One would think CDC would step in before his seat gets too hot from this. Right or wrong, his image is gonna take a hit if the mass hysteria fans are projecting plays out

[soldierhorn]

Lashlee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Beck
{a lot of coaches} >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Beck

Was Kyle Shanahan around when Herman was at UT?

I have a feeling that it is going to be someone like Shanahan or Applewhite but I have no reason to think that

[texbound]

Hopefully Bijan comes in and is everything we hope for. Keep RoJo at RB, move Whittington back to WR, and have RB room of Ingram, RoJo, Bijan, Young, another recruit.

[Vito Corleone]

Tom Herman is a disease

[Ballin42]

The 18th may not be fun if this keeps up

[pgardn]

Imagine a recruit reading this board.

My skeleton aches.

[Kermit]

Imagine a recruit reading this board.

My skeleton aches.

And we’re pretty tame comparatively.

[Vito Corleone]

This board is very civilized compared to all other boards out there. Truth is we as fans and those of us who are Alumni have a right to voice our concern about the program's misguidance. I've said this many times. This is Tom Herman's career and legacy, he can go down as a legend or he will go down. It's his choice how he does it. As of right now, I don't see him coaching beyond 2021. Expectations as of right now are that he will win the conference next and earn that paycheck or get replaced. Everything is in place for a run next year. 7 returning starters on offense, 8 on defense. Texas is stacked at every place except DE.

We aren't asking him to do the impossible, we are asking him to perform to expectations. Anything less than 9 wins and he is immediately replaced. 9 to 10 wins gets him 1 more year. Conference champions and the heat is removed. Excuses are over for him, time to poop or get off the toilet.

[Blake]

I'll see myself out the front door.

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1. Phew
2. Leach vs Harrell is awesome

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[Bloeddyr10]

I might have come around on the Ash hire. I think we all can agree that complete lack of fundamentals was what hurt the defense the most, followed closely by suspicious play calling. Ash might be one of the best when it comes actual tackling fundamentals (the guy has released a movie called "Chris Ash: Tackling Fundamentals and Drills for Defensive Backs" for crying out loud). There are a plethora of extensive videos from coaching clinics with Ash and footage from practices at Wisconsin. Meyer continued to use his tackling techniques at tOSU after Ash left.

His focus on sound DB play might be exactly what Texas needs considering the amount DB's on the field at every play. I have some time these coming weeks, where I intent to find as much footage of his Wisconsin, Arkansas, Iowa State and Ohio State teams. As well as some of the 2018 Rutgers tape (according to one of the 247 national analysts who lives in NJ, said Ash took over defensive play calling in 2018 because the unit sucked, and the same mod said Rutgers showed massive improvements).

Obviously, the position coaches can make or break a coordinator, so he has to nail them as well. I know Larry Johnson of Ohio State has been mentioned as a potential DL coach. That would most certainly make a strong case for Ash, but there's like 0.1% chance that happens. I'd also be interested to see if this makes interim LB coach Jeremiah George a candidate for the LB job. Ash were recruiting coordinator for ISU the year George signed with ISU, so they obviously know each other. I have a feeling Ash will reach out to Paul Rhoads to get some insight to George.

It's actually kind of sad. I'm starting to get myself to like Ash as a coordinator and then Herman ends up sabotaging his own hire of Harrell (allegedly).

[GregoryJim]

So we are going to wind up with 2 new coordinators that aren’t clear upgrades and at the same time our recruiting class will get worse.

Because Herman went 10-4 w Sugar Bowl win, they should have given him a mulligan for this last season. Then, if he had another 7-8 win season in 2020 you get rid of him and the whole staff.

The lesson here is that firing coaches does the following:
1. Makes all the “fire the coach” fans happy;
2. Hurts your recruiting class which hurts your chance to win;
3. Does not guarantee that the new coach will be a better coach;
4. And Wholesale firing of coaches makes your program look bush league and gives a-holes like Fatter son more ammo for negative recruiting.

But at least the “fire the coach” fans are happy. That is way more important than keeping a stud receiver from Temple.

[Vito Corleone]

I'm good with the Ash hire, he is a good DC who I think will get our defense to perform well, it helps he doesn't have a bunch of freshmen and sophomore DBs to work with, he has a lot of returning starters and a lot of guys with excellent experience. I think our defense will perform much better as a 4-2-5 than the 3-3-5 we were running. We still need help at the WDE spot but all the other spots on the dline are pretty solid. I will be interested to see where Ta'Quon Graham ends up, I think he is a DT all the way, but I could see him as a SDE as well.

I'm not excited to see Vernon Broughton as a DT as well, he is going to be a total badass in this defense. Same with Keondre Coburn. The real key for me is Prince Dorbra as he is the perfect WDE. Of course I still want to get Alfred Collins who can also be a impact DE in this defense.

Hopefully we can pick up Collins and maybe flip a linebacker or two. I hold out hope

I've lost faith in Tom Herman, but this is his team and we shall see what is he can do. He has 2 seasons to get it done or he is gone.

[TFloss32]

Looks like RB Jase McClellan of Aledo is going to flip to Bama.

[Jimmiemac]

Not recruiting related but rumors prevalent that up to 8 OU players will be suspended for the LSU game (mostly starters).

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Not recruiting related but rumors prevalent that up to 8 OU players will be suspended for the LSU game (mostly starters).

I guess they lose by 40 instead of 20?

[TFloss32]

Something to keep in mind for the months ahead...Inside Texas believes Clemson will eventually offer 2021 OL James Brockermeyer.

https://247sports.com/Player/James-Brockermeyer-46059520/

[SlickStreet]

I might have come around on the Ash hire. I think we all can agree that complete lack of fundamentals was what hurt the defense the most, followed closely by suspicious play calling. Ash might be one of the best when it comes actual tackling fundamentals (the guy has released a movie called "Chris Ash: Tackling Fundamentals and Drills for Defensive Backs" for crying out loud). There are a plethora of extensive videos from coaching clinics with Ash and footage from practices at Wisconsin. Meyer continued to use his tackling techniques at tOSU after Ash left.

His focus on sound DB play might be exactly what Texas needs considering the amount DB's on the field at every play. I have some time these coming weeks, where I intent to find as much footage of his Wisconsin, Arkansas, Iowa State and Ohio State teams. As well as some of the 2018 Rutgers tape (according to one of the 247 national analysts who lives in NJ, said Ash took over defensive play calling in 2018 because the unit sucked, and the same mod said Rutgers showed massive improvements).

Obviously, the position coaches can make or break a coordinator, so he has to nail them as well. I know Larry Johnson of Ohio State has been mentioned as a potential DL coach. That would most certainly make a strong case for Ash, but there's like 0.1% chance that happens. I'd also be interested to see if this makes interim LB coach Jeremiah George a candidate for the LB job. Ash were recruiting coordinator for ISU the year George signed with ISU, so they obviously know each other. I have a feeling Ash will reach out to Paul Rhoads to get some insight to George.

It's actually kind of sad. I'm starting to get myself to like Ash as a coordinator and then Herman ends up sabotaging his own hire of Harrell (allegedly).
enjoyed your take.
someone I know who played at Texas and keeps up pretty well with some of the inner workings of the program noted a concern about Ash going to a "rugby-style" form of tackling after his Wisconsin stint, which according to the acquaintance isn't really the most sound way to tackle. That said, I think such concerns are unfounded considering how good the tOSU defenses were and, as you note, Ash's reputation and Meyer continuing to teach his methods.

[horninok]

Where are the rumors of the suspensions? Just curious so I can take more enjoyment of a pending sooner meltdown in these parts.

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[ProgramaticNonFit]

Where are the rumors of the suspensions? Just curious so I can take more enjoyment of a pending sooner meltdown in these parts.


From the SoonerPoop website threads....it looks like it was weed based...but I'm just spreading rumors here!

[woofwoof]

wake me up when we've found somebody that Herman approves of to run whatever offense he believes would be best for his almost-out-of-eligibility qb. Casey Thompson will not be able to run the same system as Ehlinger. It turns to a K-State offense with a less-built qb. Why does it take 2 superstar qbs to make an offense work at UT (Vince and Colt)? This is wild. We may seriously go into our bowl game without an OC at this rate.

[Bloeddyr10]

On a somewhat positive note...

Blair Angulo (the Arizona/West guy for 24/7) says that 5-star CB Kelee Ringo isn't expected to sign until NSD2 in February.

[TheMex]

Casey Thompson isn’t coming back. Come on.

[woofwoof]

Casey Thompson isn’t coming back. Come on.

Who are you thinking will have the qb reins for supposedly/maybe Hermans last year at HC? If our team is able to produce next year, unless we get a grad transfer, I'd expect Herman to be sitting on a scorching seat next year.

[TFloss32]

Per OrangeBloods, the entire class is expected to sign tomorrow.

[texas4ever]

OrangeBloods along with several other sites have said that they are hearing Yurcich is getting some consideration for OC.

From Anwar:

Mike Yurcich (Passing Game Coordinator/Quarterbacks, Ohio State)

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He was the offensive coordinator at Oklahoma State from 2013 to 2018. According to Yurcich’s bio, during his six years at Oklahoma State, the program ranked fifth nationally in passing yards per game (315.9), 11th in touchdown passes (179), seventh in total yards (478.6) and sixth in scoring (38.0). In the 2017 season, Mason Rudolph had 4,904 passing yards, 37 touchdowns and nine interceptions, James Washington and Marcell Ateman had over 1,000 yards receiving, while Justice Hill has over 1,000 yards rushing. In addition, Oklahoma State led the nation in passing (389.2 yards per game), was second in total offense (568.9) and ranked fourth in scoring (45.0).


Basically, that is the ideal balance Herman desires at Texas.


Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields has 2,953 passing yards, 40 touchdowns and only one interception this season (190.3 passer rating). Kevin Wilson is Ohio State’s offensive coordinator, but Yurcich impact on Fields is obvious. More importantly, Yurcich could become a coordinator again at Texas.


Right now, Ohio State is preparing to face Clemson in the college football playoffs on December 28.

Another name is Sean Gleeson (offensive coordinator/quarterbacks, Oklahoma State) and of course Applewhite.

[texas4ever]

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[satam55]

Casey Thompson isn’t coming back. Come on.

Who are you thinking will have the qb reins for supposedly/maybe Hermans last year at HC? If our team is able to produce next year, unless we get a grad transfer, I'd expect Herman to be sitting on a scorching seat next year.

Uhhhhh.....Why do people keep expecting Casey Thompson to transfer when next season he's only gonna be a 3rd-year Sophomore QB2 behind a senior All-conference QB? I don't see anybody passing up him up on the QB depth chart next season. So if Casey Thomson is gonna transfer, I expect it to happen until 2021 Spring Football or Fall Camp, if he doesn't win the QB1 job.

[woofwoof]

Uhhhhh.....Why do people keep expecting Casey Thompson to transfer when next season he's only gonna be a 3rd-year Sophomore QB2 behind a senior All-conference QB. I don't see anybody passing up him up on the QB depth chart next season. So if Casey Thomson is gonna transfer, I expect it to happen after 2021 Spring Football or Fall Camp, if he doesn't win the QB1 job.

I just think the dude needs to work on his arm strength and muscle build. He will not make it through a season at his current size the way Herman's offense is currently ran with Sam E. That was my thought...

[texbound]

Uhhhhh.....Why do people keep expecting Casey Thompson to transfer when next season he's only gonna be a 3rd-year Sophomore QB2 behind a senior All-conference QB. I don't see anybody passing up him up on the QB depth chart next season. So if Casey Thomson is gonna transfer, I expect it to happen after 2021 Spring Football or Fall Camp, if he doesn't win the QB1 job.

Well, I hope Casey doesn't transfer. Texas has 1 QB that has been moved to RB and 2 incoming QBs that both suffered injuries in their Sr. seasons. Both should be perfectly fine, but you never know.

[rogcl1]

enjoyed your take.
someone I know who played at Texas and keeps up pretty well with some of the inner workings of the program noted a concern about Ash going to a "rugby-style" form of tackling after his Wisconsin stint, which according to the acquaintance isn't really the most sound way to tackle. That said, I think such concerns are unfounded considering how good the tOSU defenses were and, as you note, Ash's reputation and Meyer continuing to teach his methods.

Any form of tackling being taught and executed would be better than what is going on now. Angles of pursuit, base, head up, breaking down, wrapping up, keeping blockers off your body, ect. Junior high stuff.

[rogcl1]

Any form of tackling being taught and executed would be better than what is going on now. Angles of pursuit, base, head up, breaking down, wrapping up, keeping blockers off your body, ect. Junior high stuff.

And also as mentioned by others getting defensive backs to turn their heads back to the ball which of course allows them to make a play on the ball and also get away with things defensively because they are making a play on the ball. This is in my opinion an indictment of their previous coaching and of the UT coaching. I must say though that I did see some improvement in this area as the season went on.

[rogcl1]

A lot of this on defense now is not brain surgery. Its keeping things simple, busting your ass and being fundamentally sound. After that that other things can follow but not without that base.

[rogcl1]

And to hell with the 3 man front unless you have some bad ass personnel at the right places. Those people will shine just as much in a four man front. Just my thoughts.

[TheMex]

Uhhhhh.....Why do people keep expecting Casey Thompson to transfer when next season he's only gonna be a 3rd-year Sophomore QB2 behind a senior All-conference QB? I don't see anybody passing up him up on the QB depth chart next season. So if Casey Thomson is gonna transfer, I expect it to happen until 2021 Spring Football or Fall Camp, if he doesn't win the QB1 job.Same guy who told me last year that Casey was putting his name on the portal told me that he will do the same this year.

[SlickStreet]

A lot of this on defense now is not brain surgery. Its keeping things simple, busting your ass and being fundamentally sound. After that that other things can follow but not without that base.

the good thing is the more I read on the guy, the more I see that Ash is pretty big on all those fundamental things--things that one would assume a DC at Texas should have in his repertoire automatically, but it depends on the guy.

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[Hook Em 88]

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damn he was coasting against rock wall I know he would have done big things with a second chance at North shore.

[rjv]

damn he was coasting against rock wall I know he would have done big things with a second chance at North shore.

duncanville is cursed. i really thought they were on track to avenge last year's devastating loss.

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[Djantx]

Muppets. We’ve reached muppet status in recruiting. I may be done following all of this.

https://twitter.com/BUFootball/status/1207291284261654529 (https://twitter.com/BUFootball/status/1207291284261654529)

https://twitter.com/BUFootball/status/1207297645049503747

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Double Bird on Signing day!!!

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I thought he had held off signing?

[Vito Corleone]

I thought he had held off signing?

Last I saw he was solid to Texas and not taking any visits.

[pgardn]

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Double Bird on Signing day!!!

What is this supposed to mean?

[Vito Corleone]

What is this supposed to mean?

I'm also curious about that as well, who is this guy?

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[TFloss32]

I thought he had held off signing?

No sir.

[TFloss32]

RB EJ Smith of Dallas Jesuit signs with Stanford.

https://247sports.com/player/ej-smith-46036959/

[Hook Em 88]

duncanville is cursed. i really thought they were on track to avenge last year's devastating loss.

duncanvilles defense is still very tough I hope they can somehow keep it a game to make it interesting and we’ll see what happens. Remember North Shore lost their first game to a lesser team so maybe duncanville can steal one back.

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[rjv]

duncanvilles defense is still very tough I hope they can somehow keep it a game to make it interesting and we’ll see what happens. Remember North Shore lost their first game to a lesser team so maybe duncanville can steal one back. that defense is great. i certainly hope that frosh QB can somehow manage to keep the game close.

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[pgardn]

No sir.

crap this is big

He is on for early signing?

[TFloss32]

crap this is big

He is on for early signing?

In about 10 min.

[TFloss32]

LB Justin Flowe of Upland, CA signs with Oregon.

https://247sports.com/Player/Justin-Flowe-46038116/

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Breathe easy everyone the Eagle has landed!

[Trill Clinton]

Whew I thought Bijan was going to have a change of heart.

[rjv]

Bijan is a great get.

[TFloss32]

2022 OL Devon Campbell (Arlington Bowie)

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https://www.hudl.com/profile/11329500/Devon-Campbell

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[KTABTX]

Samples is cursed. Go back and look at his history, especially the blocked FG for a TD 🤦🏻

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Plus Broughton.

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What are we thinking here? Princely and Alfred Collins as the two additional D-linemen they covet. Then the last two-ish spots goes to WR, LB or DB's?

[DMX7]

Breathe easy everyone the Eagle has landed!

:bobo

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Sir Tfloss....do you know who these 2 Dlinemen are?

Oh, BTW if my new avatar is out of bounds, please let me know and I'll change but I think it's funny!

[TFloss32]

Sir Tfloss....do you know who these 2 Dlinemen are?

I agree with Bloeddyr above that's he's referring to Collins and Umanmielen.

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[TFloss32]

Inside Texas saying CB Dwight McGlothern of Klein Oak is in play.

https://247sports.com/player/dwight-mcglothern-46038284/

[Jbug]

Inside Texas saying CB Dwight McGlothern of Klein Oak is in play.

https://247sports.com/player/dwight-mcglothern-46038284/

Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time.

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[texas4ever]

Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time.

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[TFloss32]

Per Inside Texas, 2021 OL Jacoby Jackson of Mansfield Summit is a name to know.

He's had a good amount of contact with Texas and he believes an offer will come eventually.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jacoby-Jackson-46059509/

[Bloeddyr10]

Surprise flip. LB Jaylan Ford of Lone Star flips from Utah to Texas.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jaylan-Ford-46051140/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/9264163/Jaylan-Ford/videos

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[TFloss32]

Surprise flip. LB Jaylan Ford of Lone Star flips from Utah to Texas.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jaylan-Ford-46051140/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/9264163/Jaylan-Ford/videos

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Nice.

[SlickStreet]

Inside Texas saying CB Dwight McGlothern of Klein Oak is in play.

https://247sports.com/player/dwight-mcglothern-46038284/

IIRC (and maybe not), isn't that the kid who sounded like he thought he was all-world at one point; he was all slighted for not being treated like a five-star recruit? I know all the kids like the attention and all, but it just seemed like he was a little too ego-maniacal even at that. Hopefully, that's not the case.

[rjv]

Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time.

nice reference, young jedi.

[elbamba1]

Surprise flip. LB Jaylan Ford of Lone Star flips from Utah to Texas.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jaylan-Ford-46051140/
https://www.hudl.com/profile/9264163/Jaylan-Ford/videos

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Did he sign today? Excuse my ignorance but I thought they could only sign early yesterday and then they would need to wait until NSD.

[rjv]

Did he sign today? Excuse my ignorance but I thought they could only sign early yesterday and then they would need to wait until NSD.

I was under the impression that recruits are able to sign until tomorrow during this period.

[woofwoof]

Did he sign today? Excuse my ignorance but I thought they could only sign early yesterday and then they would need to wait until NSD.

I believe it is through Friday. Of course, with each passing year and Texas not playing well, I seem to care less an less about recruiting..

[texbound]

I was under the impression that recruits are able to sign until tomorrow during this period.

I think you are correct. There is either a 48 or 72hr window starting from yesterday. Maybe i just convinced myself that's the case.

[TFloss32]

Did he sign today? Excuse my ignorance but I thought they could only sign early yesterday and then they would need to wait until NSD.

Yes, he's in.

Texas isn't allowed to mention him by name otherwise.

[TFloss32]

Per The Football Brainiacs, Texas has had a lot of communication recently with CB Ennis Rakestraw of Duncanville, and they asked him not to sign early.

https://247sports.com/Player/Ennis-Rakestraw-46081865/

[TFloss32]

Inside Texas saying RB Jahmyr Gibbs of Dalton, GA is a name to watch.

He has been committed to Georgia Tech since May, but he hasn't signed.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jahmyr-Gibbs-46080991/

[soldierhorn]

Per The Football Brainiacs, Texas has had a lot of communication recently with CB Ennis Rakestraw of Duncanville, and they asked him not to sign early.
https://247sports.com/Player/Ennis-Rakestraw-46081865/

I dont follow this stuff as closely as I use to so I'm probably missing something but Rakestraw doesnt have a very impressive offer list; maybe he's undervalued

[texas4ever]

I dont follow this stuff as closely as I use to so I'm probably missing something but Rakestraw doesnt have a very impressive offer list; maybe he's undervalued

Potential preferred walk-on most likely. He does have some military school interested in him, so his grades must be in-line.

[texas4ever]

Inside Texas saying RB Jahmyr Gibbs of Dalton, GA is a name to watch.

He has been committed to Georgia Tech since May, but he hasn't signed.

https://247sports.com/Player/Jahmyr-Gibbs-46080991/

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[texas4ever]

Gibbs >>>>>>> Jordan. Watch the film!

[TFloss32]

Potential preferred walk-on most likely. He does have some military school interested in him, so his grades must be in-line.

The report read as if he'd be a late-bloomer offer.

He was stout against WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba last weekend in the semifinal.

[Billybass]

Didn’t Smith-Njigba score like 6 touchdowns in that game ? I heard the kid was unstoppable