Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[Chinook]

Don't love the two-year thing, but it makes sense. Doesn't rule out a minimum deal.

[LakerHater]

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[NikosChelsea7]

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[Chinook]

How much is Chicago going to pay to get rid of those guys?

[DPG21920]

Man, SA desperately needs a mobile/defensive big on the bench. Come on Dedmon.

[GSH]

Guess he dont like us

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But you have heard of us?

[Drewlius]

I will take Snell or Portis all day

[GSH]

What does that have to do with anything? It's Chico Marx!

That's irrelephant!

[tonight...you]

That's irrelephant!
:lol :bobo

[RD2191]

ST has by far the most knowledgeable posters in NBA Sports forums and it isn't even close. Cocksucker wishes he has the knowledge of half the posters here.

[ElNono]

ST has by far the most knowledgeable posters in NBA Sports forums and it isn't even close. Cocksucker wishes he has the knowledge of half the posters here.

thanks rob

[LakerHater]

bertans shootin hand

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[RD2191]

bertans shootin hand

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SA women already going crazy for him.

[RD2191]

thanks rob

De nada

[tonight...you]

SA women already going crazy for him.
That's a shocker...
Bah dum dum! Thank you everybody!

[RD2191]

That's a shocker...
Bah dum dum! Thank you everybody!

*throws tomato*

[Emperor]

Give this man free Whataburger for a year so he can bulk up.

[DPG21920]

Man, I want Terrence Jones or Dewayne Dedmon bad. That would give the bench so much more upside and versatility. I'm very surprised to see nothing on those two yet and like I said, SA should be an attractive place for upside 4/5's trying to make a name. You will get minutes on this team.

[ace3g]

Man, I want Terrence Jones or Dewayne Dedmon bad. That would give the bench so much more upside and versatility. I'm very surprised to see nothing on those two yet and like I said, SA should be an attractive place for upside 4/5's trying to make a name. You will get minutes on this team.


I'll throw this name out there again because Terrence Jones might get more money. Anthony Randolph, mobile PF that can handle the ball aka "poor man's Odom". Marc Spears said he was receiving interest. Still only 26 yrs old. Runs the court well.

[RD2191]

Man, I want Terrence Jones or Dewayne Dedmon bad. That would give the bench so much more upside and versatility. I'm very surprised to see nothing on those two yet and like I said, SA should be an attractive place for upside 4/5's trying to make a name. You will get minutes on this team.

Well Timmy needs to hurry the hell up so we can get some things going.

[tonight...you]

I'll throw this name out there again because Terrence Jones might get more money. Anthony Randolph, mobile PF that can handle the ball aka "poor man's Odom". Marc Spears said he was receiving interest. Still only 26 yrs old. Runs the court well.
That would be a pretty decent addition, actually. Good call.

[DPG21920]

I'll throw this name out there again because Terrence Jones might get more money. Anthony Randolph, mobile PF that can handle the ball aka "poor man's Odom". Marc Spears said he was receiving interest. Still only 26 yrs old. Runs the court well.

I wouldn't be mad at him but I think his ship has sailed. Too many tries. Too many opportunities for his "talent" to show through.

Would be pretty crazy if all of the sudden it clicked for him now.

[TD 21]

I'll throw this name out there again because Terrence Jones might get more money. Anthony Randolph, mobile PF that can handle the ball aka "poor man's Odom". Marc Spears said he was receiving interest. Still only 26 yrs old. Runs the court well.

Yeah, I saw that and was wondering if the Spurs were one of the teams interested and that was before Diaw was moved.

I haven't heard anything about Jones, but my sense is he ends up with the Raptors on a short term deal. Nonetheless, the Spurs should absolutely be trying to sign him.

[NASpurs]

bertans shootin hand

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Davis "the Shocker" Bertans

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[ace3g]

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Sources: Maryland's Jake Layman, the No. 47 pick in the 2016 NBA Draft, has agreed to a three-year deal with the Portland Trail Blazers.







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Blazers meeting with Warriors free agent center Festus Ezeli today in Portland, sources said.


Could Spurs somehow target Meyers Leonard?

[raybies]

I would love to get Meyers

[Keepin' it real]

He can be a bit snobby. He only mentions or replies to either his peers ( other writers) or takes/tweets that are beyond pathetic (so it makes him look intelligent). If you come at him with a legitimate debate he'll just ignore if you're not a writer.

A lot of these journalism majors who write for basketball have developed an ego. There's only a select few that don't have one.

Do you really expect professional journalists to interact with foul-mouthed internet fanboys? Get real.

[NikosChelsea7]

I'll throw this name out there again because Terrence Jones might get more money. Anthony Randolph, mobile PF that can handle the ball aka "poor man's Odom". Marc Spears said he was receiving interest. Still only 26 yrs old. Runs the court well.

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The article also states that "However, there’s not yet any deal with Randolph who is also waiting a possible offer from the NBA."

[LakerHater]

Would love to have Meyers Leonard!

[Keepin' it real]

I'll throw this name out there again because Terrence Jones might get more money. Anthony Randolph, mobile PF that can handle the ball aka "poor man's Odom". Marc Spears said he was receiving interest. Still only 26 yrs old. Runs the court well.

Wait a minute. He's "still only 26," but a lot of people complain that JSimms is "already 27."

What a difference a year makes, lol.

[sasaint]

Would love to have Meyers Leonard!

One of my top targets for two years! Doubt we could afford him, though.

[sasaint]

Wait a minute. He's "still only 26," but a lot of people complain that JSimms is "already 27."

What a difference a year makes, lol.

:toast

[palangi]

I'll throw this name out there again because Terrence Jones might get more money. Anthony Randolph, mobile PF that can handle the ball aka "poor man's Odom". Marc Spears said he was receiving interest. Still only 26 yrs old. Runs the court well.

I'm with you. And at 6'11" he brings size and length.

[NASpurs]

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[LakerHater]

Wade agrres to terms with bulls!

[LakerHater]

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[look_at_g_shred]

Damn any players we can get in on?

[loveforthegame]

Wow. I didn't think he'd leave. Miami messed up.

[Leetonidas]

Wade leaving for the bulls :wow

[GSH]

Just looking at this up-to-date chart. http://hoopshype.com/2016/07/06/free-agent-tracker-whos-going-where-and-for-how-much/

Mike Conley - a hundred and fifty three million bucks. And we were actually discussing the possibility of him coming to the Spurs. :lol

Now we're discussing Jarnell Stokes. :shootme

[loveforthegame]

So who's helping the Bulls?

[LakerHater]

Erik Spoelstra :lol

[AFBlue]

Don't think we have the cap space for anyone on their roster. Would be nice to have Dunleavy as an extra shooter, but he's probably too expensive.

[Kikoluna]

Don't look now but the bulls have rondo, wade and butler. Not bad.

[NASpurs]

Don't look now but the bulls have rondo, wade and butler. Not bad.

Just give them five feet and dare them to shoot.

[ceperez]

So, let's see... Spurs have a white clone of Durant in Bertans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BvH0F1N0Mo

and a clone of Curry in Forbes!

[GSH]

Don't think we have the cap space for anyone on their roster. Would be nice to have Dunleavy as an extra shooter, but he's probably too expensive.


Hell, I'd take Bobby Portis right now, without a doubt. We're looking for budget big men and he'd be a good, cheap bench big. Not great, but we're not exactly looking top-shelf right now. The problem is, those aren't the contracts Chicago wants to get rid of.

(I wanted to say Doug McDermott, just because he's white and slow and I knew Harlem's head would explode over it.)

[NikosChelsea7]

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[Leetonidas]

of course

[HarlemHeat37]

Damn, man, Dedmon is going to be great value, I've been wanting him since the beginning of the off-season..

He's going to thrive in a different situation..his fouling problem will be resolved by joining the Warriors, too, players on marquee teams always receive more benefit of the doubt..cheap Ezeli replacement..

[NASpurs]

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[timtonymanu]

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smh of course.

[noles1983]

smh of course.

faggots.

[NASpurs]

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[BillMc]

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Is that so Wade can go there? Is that really going to happen?

[NASpurs]

Is that so Wade can go there? Is that really going to happen?

Yes, he already gave a verbal agreement to go to the Bulls.

[Ron Swanson]

Yes, it's happening.

[tbdog]

How can Cavs have room to absorb Dunleavy?

[Leetonidas]

Spurs are going to miss out because they have no idea what Tim wants to do yet ffffuuuu

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Lebron with the finishing move vs. Riley :lmao

[r0drig0lac]

How can Cavs have room to absorb Dunleavy?

trade exception

[GSH]

Damn, man, Dedmon is going to be great value, I've been wanting him since the beginning of the off-season.



Raiders of the NBA

"Again we see that there is nothing you want, that we cannot take away."
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[NASpurs]

Spurs are going to miss out because they have no idea what Tim wants to do yet ffffuuuu

Yeah it's fucking annoying.

[BillMc]

Yes, he already gave a verbal agreement to go to the Bulls.

Cheers. Just getting caught up.

[NASpurs]

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[objective]

Damn, man, Dedmon is going to be great value, I've been wanting him since the beginning of the off-season..

He's going to thrive in a different situation..his fouling problem will be resolved by joining the Warriors, too, players on marquee teams always receive more benefit of the doubt..cheap Ezeli replacement..

For sure.

It's almost like Golden State is doing just fine adding bodies with minimums and the room exception.

Who could have guessed?

[tonight...you]

Some of that sheen is coming off Riley's mocos de gorilla hair right about now...

[NASpurs]

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[BillMc]

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Strictly on the court, what does that do for the Bulls? Obviously Butler has been anointed the face of that team...

And I'm guessing during his HOF speech Wade won't call Riley "A very very special man" like Magic Johnson did. :lol Slightly different relationship.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA) Chicago has traded guard Jose Calderon to the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/).

[NASpurs]

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[loveforthegame]

Great get for the Cavs.

[BillMc]

Some of that sheen is coming off Riley's mocos de gorilla hair right about now...

Riley has been called the NBA's Gordon Gekko. So is greed still good, Pat? :lol

[r0drig0lac]

even Centers in GSW are more athletic than in SA ..dafuq

[LakerHater]

Arnt Cavs $54 mil over the cap!?

[BillMc]

Arnt Cavs $54 mil over the cap!?

They had a trade exception I think.

[LakerHater]

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[tonight...you]

Riley has been called the NBA's Gordon Gekko. So is greed still good, Pat? :lol
Damn. That was a good movie. It used to be in my Top 25, until Samurai Cop nudged it out.
https://d13yacurqjgara.cloudfront.net/users/388718/screenshots/2619349/samuraicop_postera.jpg

Now that's a movie!

[spurtech09]

even Centers in GSW are more athletic than in SA ..dafuqThis

[spurtech09]

The NBA is a mess.....

[BillMc]

Damn. That was a good movie. It used to be in my Top 25, until Samurai Cop nudged it out.
https://d13yacurqjgara.cloudfront.net/users/388718/screenshots/2619349/samuraicop_postera.jpg

Now that's a movie!

Good flick!:toast

[BillMc]

The NBA is a mess.....

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Wish news would come out that we have at least inquired about Ekpe Udoh. Seems like re-establishing his name in the NBA is important to him. Give him a 1 or 2 year deal. if he blows up either pay him or let him get paid somewhere else.

[tonight...you]

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.
So be good! For goodness sake! Whooooaaaaaaa-oooooaaaaa! Somebody's coming! Somebody's coming to toooooooooooown!!!

[BillMc]

So be good! For goodness sake! Whooooaaaaaaa-oooooaaaaa! Somebody's coming! Somebody's coming to toooooooooooown!!!
:rollin

[Ron Swanson]

Ray, when someone asks you if you are a god, you say YES!

[cutewizard]

i hope we can get Bourousis

[SAGirl]

Bandwagoning is on another level this season.

[BillMc]

Ray, when someone asks you if you are a god, you say YES!
:lol:toast

[tonight...you]

Ray, when someone asks you if you are a god, you say YES!
If there's a steady paycheck, I'll believe anything you say.

[Joseph Kony]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOtf2vVScOc

[tonight...you]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOtf2vVScOc
Don't jiggle your jelly at me. I don't eat sugar free.

[Atl Spur]

I would not be shocked if San Antonio trades Patty Mills this offseason.

[GSH]

Bandwagoning is on another level this season.


We're Spurs fans, dammit! It's what we do!

Everyone else is spending money on big name FA's like it's Monopoly money. Give us an undrafted, undersized shooting guard and a Euro who doesn't even have a finger to put a ring on if we win one. We'll give 'em nicknames, buy their jerseys, and compare 'em to Michael Jordan. It's what we do.

[spurs10]

Bandwagoning is on another level this season. Yes it's pretty damn weak.

[SAGirl]

We're Spurs fans, dammit! It's what we do!

Everyone else is spending money on big name FA's like it's Monopoly money. Give us an undrafted, undersized shooting guard and a Euro who doesn't even have a finger to put a ring on if we win one. We'll give 'em nicknames, buy their jerseys, and compare 'em to Michael Jordan. It's what we do.
I was vague, but the thought came to my mind realizing the Dedmon signing for GSW and Dwest for the minimum again for them. They got players for peanuts.
We are filling up with younglings bc we are not contenders anymore and the rich in GSW get richer.
You know what? I better go back to enjoying summer league and my highlights from my boys TBH :lol:flag:

Well I am hoping we are a darkhorse contender. A lot of new faces no one knows what this new Spurs team will be.

[Mr. Body]

NBA is losing its mind.
Also, feels like Dunleavy has been around forever.

[Ice009]

You're joking me. The Warriors front office must read this forum. They're scooping up everyone we want, while the Spurs are passing up all these guys. What in the fuck are the Spurs doing? Are they even going to try and get an athletic F/C that can rebound?

[RD2191]

You're joking me. The Warriors front office must read this forum. They're scooping up everyone we want, while the Spurs are passing up all these guys. What in the fuck are the Spurs doing? Are they even going to try and get an athletic F/C that can rebound?
I might be wrong but maybe Tim is holding them up.

[spurtech09]

Bandwagoning is on another level this season.Yes.....NBA=Selling Souls...

[BillMc]

I was vague, but the thought came to my mind realizing the Dedmon signing for GSW and Dwest for the minimum again for them. They got players for peanuts.
We are filling up with younglings bc we are not contenders anymore and the rich in GSW get richer.
You know what?I better go back to enjoying summer league and my highlights from my boys TBH :lol:flag:

Well I am hoping we are a darkhorse contender. A lot of new faces no one knows what this new Spurs team will be.

Don't be de-spirited. We are still contenders. Yes, the Dubs will be heavy favorites, but we'll win 58 to 64. Who (besides the Dubs) would you favor in a 7 game series against us? MAYBE the Cavs? And, I suppose, you could find a way to convince yourself of the Clippers (but I wouldn't). We ARE a contender. :flag:

[Hoops Czar]

You're joking me. The Warriors front office must read this forum. They're scooping up everyone we want, while the Spurs are passing up all these guys. What in the fuck are the Spurs doing? Are they even going to try and get an athletic F/C that can rebound?

The Spurs have always preferred D-league minimalists and Euro trash as opposed to proven NBA talent. This shouldn't come as a surprise. When Duncan retires, the talking heads as well as it's fans will finally realize how overrated this PATFO really is.

[GSH]

I was vague, but the thought came to my mind realizing the Dedmon signing for GSW and Dwest for the minimum again for them. They got players for peanuts.
We are filling up with younglings bc we are not contenders anymore and the rich in GSW get richer.
You know what? I better go back to enjoying summer league and my highlights from my boys TBH :lol:flag:

Well I am hoping we are a darkhorse contender. A lot of new faces no one knows what this new Spurs team will be.

I wasn't making fun of you - or no more than I was myself. We can bitch and moan as much as we want to about who's getting the best FA's, or how weak the team looks. But once the first pre-season game rolls around, we're going to be seeing flashes of greatness in a bunch of new guys and wallowing in it unapologetically.

I was also laughing at the idea that this offseason has netted us a 9-fingered forward, and a hobbit SG (Frodo and Sam?), and Jarnell Stokes is headed to our SL team. And, honestly, the bitching and moaning is no worse than any other year. We're the most optimistic pessimists, or the most pessimistic optimists in the sports world.

[tonight...you]

I might be wrong but maybe Tim is holding them up.
I can't remember the last time you were wrong, brother.

[GSH]

The Spurs have always preferred D-league minimalists and Euro trash as opposed to proven NBA talent. This shouldn't come as a surprise. When Duncan retires, the talking heads as well as it's fans will finally realize how overrated this PATFO really is.


Or maybe they're all going to be shaking their heads and saying, "Well the Spurs did it again". Talking about how they came up with Parker and Manu out of nowhere, over a decade ago, and now they've done it with guys like Simmons, Bertans, and Forbes.

It could happen.

[Nathan89]

We're Spurs fans, dammit! It's what we do!

Everyone else is spending money on big name FA's like it's Monopoly money. Give us an undrafted, undersized shooting guard and a Euro who doesn't even have a finger to put a ring on if we win one. We'll give 'em nicknames, buy their jerseys, and compare 'em to Michael Jordan. It's what we do.:lol

[Hoops Czar]

Don't be de-spirited. We are still contenders. Yes, the Dubs will be heavy favorites, but we'll win 58 to 64. Who (besides the Dubs) would you favor in a 7 game series against us? MAYBE the Cavs? And, I suppose, you could find a way to convince yourself of the Clippers (but I wouldn't). We ARE a contender. :flag:

Boban is the back up C and Kyle Anderson is the back up SF. No, this team is not a contender.

[tonight...you]

Boban is the back up C and Kyle Anderson is the back up SF. No, this team is not a contender.
Boban ain't even signed yet, my man. Don't be a jive turkey!

[Hoops Czar]

Or maybe they're all going to be shaking their heads and saying, "Well the Spurs did it again". Talking about how they came up with Parker and Manu out of nowhere, over a decade ago, and now they've done it with guys like Simmons, Bertans, and Forbes.

It could happen.

Who on this roster do you see being the next Parker or Ginobili?

[Spur|n|Austin]

Boban is the back up C and Kyle Anderson is the back up SF. No, this team is not a contender.

You may be jumping the gun, free agency is not over yet.

[Atl Spur]

San Antonio is always an contender........ please never forget that! We have faced some of the most fearsome players/organizations in the whole NBA; Golden State was/is birthed from some of our principles. Let's not forget who we are and what we do!!

[GSH]

Who on this roster do you see being the next Parker or Ginobili?


Heh.. you're where I was a couple of nights ago. No, I don't think we've got a budding Manu or Tony on the squad. I'm just sort of resigned to the fact that these are the guys we're going to see, like it or not. I've already gone through denial, anger, bargaining, and grief. I'm on to acceptance.

We've got a decent starting 5. Well, starting 4 anyway. And we've got some bench guys who are going to nail some exciting 3's and make some flashy cuts to the basket. Hopefully Boban will still give us some flat-footed dunk domination. It's going to have to be enough, because I just don't see any exciting trades being announced, and free agency sure as hell isn't giving up any big names this year, on our min-contract budget.

[Juan]

It's a long season. Lots can happen. Just because it doesn't happen during the free agency period doesn't mean the roster can't get better down the line. Lots of opportunities around trade deadline / buyout deadline for teams to improve / find missing pieces. Don't forget how the Spurs landed Diaw... One of the most important moves that helped put them back into title contention.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/494686813202546689/jeeM5jMw_bigger.jpeg Adrian Wojnarowski Verified account ‏@WojVerticalNBA (https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA)

Free agent Leandro Barbosa has agreed to a two-year, $8M deal with the Suns, league source tells @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical).

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[Nathan89]

If Dunleavy is healthy that's a nice pickup. He has length, 3pt shooting, and he's a hard nose player. He'll knock the shit out of Curry without hesitating. Overall he's a really well rounded role player. Obviously he's a perfect role player to have next to Lebron.

[Nathan89]

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At least I don't have to watch all those annoyingly timely threes for GSW anymore.

[Spur|n|Austin]

If Dunleavy is healthy that's a nice pickup. He has length, 3pt shooting, and he's a hard nose player. He'll knock the shit out of Curry without hesitating. Overall he's a really well rounded role player. Obviously he's a perfect role player to have next to Lebron.

Here lies the problem with Dunleavy though.

[ElNono]

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WTF is our front office doing or waiting for? Pop and Ettore drinking wine and eating pasta while these guys just keep taking up talent from everywhere?

[Nathan89]

It's a long season. Lots can happen. Just because it doesn't happen during the free agency period doesn't mean the roster can't get better down the line. Lots of opportunities around trade deadline / buyout deadline for teams to improve / find missing pieces. Don't forget how the Spurs landed Diaw... One of the most important moves that helped put them back into title contention.

Things can get better but I for the most part they need to wait till next free agency and hit big.

[NASpurs]

WTF is our front office doing or waiting for? Pop and Ettore drinking wine and eating pasta while these guys just keep taking up talent from everywhere?

Duncan has the team by the balls right now.

[objective]

I hope Wade doesn't inspire Manu to go get more money than being offered.

[tonight...you]

It's a long season. Lots can happen. Just because it doesn't happen during the free agency period doesn't mean the roster can't get better down the line. Lots of opportunities around trade deadline / buyout deadline for teams to improve / find missing pieces. Don't forget how the Spurs landed Diaw... One of the most important moves that helped put them back into title contention.
Teams can actually break RS records and dominate like no one else and not end up with the LOB, in the end.
So true.

[Juan]

WTF is our front office doing or waiting for? Pop and Ettore drinking wine and eating pasta while these guys just keep taking up talent from everywhere?

Prob trying to figure out how they are going to pay greedy ass Manu who's worried about his bank account.

[playbonner15]

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Fuck yeah. Barbosa loves to light it up against the spurs

[objective]

WTF is our front office doing or waiting for? Pop and Ettore drinking wine and eating pasta while these guys just keep taking up talent from everywhere?

Hard to compete against a free ring and massive exposure

[Nathan89]

Why would Dedmon pick the spurs over GSW? That team will showcase his talents and allow him to get a big contract next year.

[tonight...you]

WTF is our front office doing or waiting for? Pop and Ettore drinking wine and eating pasta while these guys just keep taking up talent from everywhere?
I'm knee deep in Mezcal and nachos with BBQ meat from the pit... near equivalent?

[loveforthegame]

I refuse to believe Duncan is holding the team up. I'm hoping the Spurs have whatever dominoes lined up and ready to go tomorrow.

Of course, I'll wake up and my belief shattered.

[DPG21920]

Why would Dedmon pick the spurs over GSW? That team will showcase his talents and allow him to get a big contract next year.

Spurs would too. How much look will Dedmon get with their stars and Zaza/West? Spurs have LMA/Pau only from a big perspective and not as much star power to soak up every touch.

[HarlemHeat37]

Warriors backup SG spot just opened up..

If the front office doesn't want to pay Manu, wouldn't be too angry at him if he chases the ring instead, tbh:lol

[Juan]

Warriors backup SG spot just opened up..

If the front office doesn't want to pay Manu, wouldn't be too angry at him if he chases the ring instead, tbh:lol

Duncan would never pull such a move.

[ElNono]

lol Manu will sign for the vet min if that's all that's left.

I just keep reading tweets of X, Y and Z player talking to the Dubs, like they didn't just sign a player to the max.

I get it with vets chasing a ring, but Dedmon is 26.

[tonight...you]

Warriors backup SG spot just opened up..

If the front office doesn't want to pay Manu, wouldn't be too angry at him if he chases the ring instead, tbh:lol
Don't you put that shit out into the ether! Gawd damn you!
That will literally turn my stomach. Sweet Haysoos!

[playbonner15]

You're joking me. The Warriors front office must read this forum. They're scooping up everyone we want, while the Spurs are passing up all these guys. What in the fuck are the Spurs doing? Are they even going to try and get an athletic F/C that can rebound?
Got that feeling that Warrior's scouts >>> Spurs scouts just coz they also read ST :D

[ElNono]

Warriors backup SG spot just opened up..

If the front office doesn't want to pay Manu, wouldn't be too angry at him if he chases the ring instead, tbh:lol

For the vet min, Manu stays with the Spurs, tbh

[Nathan89]

Spurs would too. How much look will Dedmon get with their stars and Zaza/West? Spurs have LMA/Pau only from a big perspective and not as much star power to soak up every touch.

If he's good and a center he should play over West. Yes, Spurs will showcase his talents well but not to the likes of GSW. He'll just get so many easy baskets with that team.

[siraulo23]

Warriors backup SG spot just opened up..

If the front office doesn't want to pay Manu, wouldn't be too angry at him if he chases the ring instead, tbh:lol

I would be mad tbh, low blow move

this is not david west we talking about, HE'S MANU GINOBILI :lol

[Nathan89]

Warriors backup SG spot just opened up..

If the front office doesn't want to pay Manu, wouldn't be too angry at him if he chases the ring instead, tbh:lol

I would, that would be extremely lame. Those fucks don't even need Manu.

[HarlemHeat37]

Warriors built a loaded team even prior to winning a championship..they lucked out with Curry's contract, but outside of that, everything seems to have been planned and scouted well..

Spurs' front office still has the reputation of being ahead of the game, but they haven't lived up to the hype in years..it will be interesting to see if the success translates without Duncan there as the influence and leader..

[HarlemHeat37]

I would be mad tbh, low blow move

this is not david west we talking about, HE'S MANU GINOBILI :lol

:lol I'm playing, I would definitely be annoyed..I already disliked the Warriors, and now they added one of my 3 most despised players of all-time in Dominos Durant..

[Sean Cagney]

It's a long season. Lots can happen. Just because it doesn't happen during the free agency period doesn't mean the roster can't get better down the line. Lots of opportunities around trade deadline / buyout deadline for teams to improve / find missing pieces. Don't forget how the Spurs landed Diaw... One of the most important moves that helped put them back into title contention.That is true, thought of that the other night

[Nathan89]

Warriors built a loaded team even prior to winning a championship..they lucked out with Curry's contract, but outside of that, everything seems to have been planned and scouted well..

Spurs' front office still has the reputation of being ahead of the game, but they haven't lived up to the hype in years..it will be interesting to see if the success translates without Duncan there as the influence and leader..

It helps when you have draft picks. They certainly maximized the one they got. Quite fortunate other teams are absolutely garbage at picking players at the same time. Of course Draymond was quite the find.

That being said Spurs FO has done fine. Splitter, Patty, Cojo, and Kawhi were all important players in leading us to 1 ring and almost two. Then Diaw and Danny were absolute steals on the market.

[HarlemHeat37]

It helps when you have draft picks. They certainly maximized the one they got. Quite fortunate other teams are absolutely garbage at picking players at the same time. Of course Draymond was quite the find.

That being said Spurs FO has done fine. Splitter, Patty, Cojo, and Kawhi were all important players in leading us to 1 ring and almost two. Then Diaw and Danny were absolute steals on the market.

Warriors also took rejects like Livingston and washed-up players like Barbosa and turned them into vital role players, too, though..

Spurs FO is great and it's difficult to find quality players when you're always picking late, but they are years removed from having the reputation of creating "magic" IMO..

[Keepin' it real]

You're joking me. The Warriors front office must read this forum. They're scooping up everyone we want, while the Spurs are passing up all these guys.

I sure hope so. With few exceptions, this place is full of morons. I hope every team other than the Spurs makes roster decisions based on spurstalk.

[Atl Spur]

We stay ahead of the game sir....... you can't win the championship every year!! Wow!! We are two years removed from our last where as Cleveland hadn't won one in 50+ years...lol We are always in the mix and that's all any franchise can ask for period!!! Don't be unreasonable in your expectations; no one stays on top forever.

[coachmac87]

Warriors also took rejects like Livingston and washed-up players like Barbosa and turned them into vital role players, too, though..

Spurs FO is great and it's difficult to find quality players when you're always picking late, but they are years removed from having the reputation of creating "magic" IMO..

Would you consider the "FO" under development of players? And just curious what do you consider the last "magic" the Spurs created?

[Nathan89]

Warriors also took rejects like Livingston and washed-up players like Barbosa and turned them into vital role players, too, though..

Spurs FO is great and it's difficult to find quality players when you're always picking late, but they are years removed from having the reputation of creating "magic" IMO..

Livingston wasn't a reject. He played great with the Nets. I remember really wanting for the Spurs that summer.

It usually takes years for development. Splitter was an absolute steal and very solid starter when healthy. Cojo and Baynes are great backups and ended up getting paid.

Also forgot about George Hill who starter in the league.

We've yet to determine how many of the picks will turnout since the absolute steal that was Kawhi Leonard. Kyle Anderson might turnout to be a solid pf in this league. I'd really like to see him at pf with a better pg on our team.

[siraulo23]

the warriors have been great since lacob, 1st class organization up there with the spurs and the thunder

built through the draft and as a basketball fan i cant really hate on their style of play, they play the right way etc... drafted curry, thompson, green etc... and all developed at the right time

Duncan was already great when he came into the league so the spurs getting parker and ginobili late in the draft was huge. Curry wasnt amazing and had problems with his ankles when he entered the league so they were able to get thompson, barnes and of course green in the 2nd round was tremendous

they were lucky enough to have a beta superstar be a FA at the time where the cap room spiked, obviously im sure they planned and set up everything they could control to make it happen but also involved a lot of luck

[Nathan89]

Would you consider the "FO" under development of players? And just curious what do you consider the last "magic" the Spurs created?

Diaw, Kawhi, and Danny are all pure magic that's happened in the last 5 years.

[gambit1990]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmu7s_pXYAEI2pa.jpg:medium

[DPG21920]

Warriors built a loaded team even prior to winning a championship..they lucked out with Curry's contract, but outside of that, everything seems to have been planned and scouted well..

Spurs' front office still has the reputation of being ahead of the game, but they haven't lived up to the hype in years..it will be interesting to see if the success translates without Duncan there as the influence and leader..

Bruh, that's crazy. Trading Hill for Kawhi, how many 50 win seasons? How many titles and recent WCF/Finals appearances despite dealing with hard salary cap rules, limited FA's wanting to come to SA and an aging core? Just crazy how much hype this two year run from GS gets.

[kjhip1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmu7s_pXYAEI2pa.jpg:medium

Mind blown!!!!!

[K...]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmu7s_pXYAEI2pa.jpg:medium

lazy ass millenial cant even cut and paste text so it has to put into a jpg.

[K...]

Warriors also took rejects like Livingston and washed-up players like Barbosa and turned them into vital role players, too, though..

Spurs FO is great and it's difficult to find quality players when you're always picking late, but they are years removed from having the reputation of creating "magic" IMO..

When you have a prime Curry it's easy to make role players look good with spacing. I mean it's no secret that Duncan and Manu made a lot of mediocre prospects suddenly decent.

[DPG21920]

Warriors also took rejects like Livingston and washed-up players like Barbosa and turned them into vital role players, too, though..

Spurs FO is great and it's difficult to find quality players when you're always picking late, but they are years removed from having the reputation of creating "magic" IMO..

rejects like Livingston? He was a bad ass player that they took a flier on knowing that if he was healthy he was a stud.

Spurs made one of the most savvy trades of the last 20 years which lead to 3 straight WCF, 2 finals and 1 title with Kawhi and that is just in the past 5 years.

[Ice009]

Why would Dedmon pick the spurs over GSW? That team will showcase his talents and allow him to get a big contract next year.

The question is, are the Spurs even looking at him? Spurs are crazy. They don't seem to even want most of these guys. Teams like Goldenstate (who are massive favourites) pick them up and then they end up being good for them.

[Blackjack]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmu7s_pXYAEI2pa.jpg:medium

I've always liked Wade. :lol

[DPG21920]

Lol plenty of teams were willing to trade for Bogut. Plenty of teams would sign Barnes and that doesn't matter anyways since he was renounced.

[raybies]

Wow, went to ball up, came back and Wade is a Bull.

If Manu pulls the same stunt as Wade we would a) have to not renounce him and b) trade someone to have space to sign a big. It really looks like Manu wants to cash in so I'm assuming Patty is likely gone which explains all the guards we have.

This will be a test the franchise will have to pass in the eyes of players. Miami opted to the business side. Chicago's deal wasnt far from his value in this era of cap. He's an All-Star and your team's greatest player to the franchise. He wanted the money and it was like 6 mill more, you make it work. We are so lucky to have Duncan. If he wanted the money we would of gave it to him but he did more for this franchise then anyone could've asked for. I know Patfo would rather squeeze him in but I'm sure they are prepared for a scenario of him a) leaving or b) finding a compromise so he can cash in. The thing here is that we take care of him because it becomes a selling point to free agents. Miami proved their loyalty as pretender, with limits. Will we do the same? I think any reasonable number from like 7-11 million for one year will work. I think that will be enough, so we'll have to sign him last. Imo

[siraulo23]

^ Even if that happens (long shot) the warriors will find another trade partner easily :lol

[gambit1990]

lazy ass millenial cant even cut and paste text so it has to put into a jpg.
i copied and pasted the image address you stupid fuck.

[spursreport]

:lmao at everyone envious of the Warriors aka the NBA's version of the Peyton Manning Colt/Bronco lead teams in every possible way.

[Nathan89]

The question is, are the Spurs even looking at him? Spurs are crazy. They don't seem to even want most of these guys. Teams like Goldenstate (who are massive favourites) pick them up and then they end up being good for them.

Spurstalk seems to think hearing Spurs are interested is false and just agent trickery. Now that they don't hear that the Spurs are interested it means they definitely aren't interested. Nobody knows if the Spurs are interested.

[siraulo23]

durant reading all the criticism and signing back with the thunder is more likely to happen because :lol beta

[coachmac87]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmu7s_pXYAEI2pa.jpg:medium


Or Heat can pull the deal from Whiteside?? Offer Wade 3yr/75M and say sorry

[siraulo23]

i copied and pasted the image address you stupid fuck.

:lol

[Ice009]

Warriors also took rejects like Livingston and washed-up players like Barbosa and turned them into vital role players, too, though..

Spurs FO is great and it's difficult to find quality players when you're always picking late, but they are years removed from having the reputation of creating "magic" IMO..

I remember people here at Spurstalk wanting Livingston before he signed with Goldenstate. I don't get how fans here can recognize someone being a good player and then it appears the Spurs show no interest whatsoever. Those people here that wanted Livingston, I give props to you guys. You were right about him turning the corner. He was coming off of a really good stint at Brooklyn and a few fans here saw that he had turned the corner to being a very good player again.

[DPG21920]

I have no problem with people lauding GS for how they have built their team and how incredible what they just did is. However, even just looking at recent success (regular season, playoffs, rings) it does not diminish SA at all.

[Nathan89]

rejects like Livingston? He was a bad ass player that they took a flier on knowing that if he was healthy he was a stud.

Spurs made one of the most savvy trades of the last 20 years which lead to 3 straight WCF, 2 finals and 1 title with Kawhi and that is just in the past 5 years.

Yep, Livingston was great with the Nets. Him being a great signing for GSW was never in doubt. People on Spurstalk wanted to go after him as well. I guess he's Danny Green like reject now though.:lol

Also most of the picks since Kawhi are too early to determine. One of the years we only had a second round pick. The same year as Kawhi we got Cojo who is a great backup in this league and also help us in game 6 vs OKC. The year before Kawhi are draft pick ended up getting injured.

[siraulo23]

I have no problem with people lauding GS for how they have built their team and how incredible what they just did is. However, even just looking at recent success (regular season, playoffs, rings) it does not diminish SA at all.

Agreed, the Kawhi trade saved the spurs from rebuilding, getting green tiago, diaw etc... were necessary moves to win '14 championship

[Spurs9]

I thought RJ said he was retiring, he just signed a 2 year deal with the Cavs.

[Nathan89]

I remember people here at Spurstalk wanting Livingston before he signed with Goldenstate. I don't get how fans here can recognize someone being a good player and then it appears the Spurs show no interest whatsoever. Those people here that wanted Livingston, I give props to you guys. You were right about him turning the corner. He was coming off of a really good stint at Brooklyn and a few fans here saw that he had turned the corner to being a very good player again.

I don't remember what ended up happening money wise but perhaps that was an issue. Also he's a better fit with GSW who can play him with starters who are great three point shooters. Compared to the Spurs who had a dominant postup bench player in Diaw and someone that needs the ball in their hand like Manu. Also what works best next to Manu is a 3pt shooter.

[ducks]

Barbosa has agreed to a two-year, $8M deal with the Suns, league source tells @TheVertical.

[DPG21920]

Barbosa has agreed to a two-year, $8M deal with the Suns, league source tells @TheVertical.

We landed on the Moon!

[Snaq O'Meal]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmu7s_pXYAEI2pa.jpg:medium

If LeBron and Wade can pull that shit off, they deserve to be co-MVPs for the next 2-3 years.

But seriously, Cuban will just withdraw his offer to Whiteside. He seems to be doing the best he can to help GSW out. Don't be surprised if there are some under-table deal in the works.

[Kawhitstorm]

Damn, man, Dedmon is going to be great value, I've been wanting him since the beginning of the off-season..

He's going to thrive in a different situation..his fouling problem will be resolved by joining the Warriors, too, players on marquee teams always receive more benefit of the doubt..cheap Ezeli replacement..

That explain why Bogut/Ezeli were ALWAYS in foul trouble especially in the playoffs.:lol

D-Worst/Zaza/Dedmon would be murders row of hackers, Mike Brown has his job cut out of him.:toast

[Dancelot]

We landed on the Moon!
:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Barbosa has agreed to a two-year, $8M deal with the Suns, league source tells @TheVertical.
They lost the Derrick Fisher of the team.:bobo

[GSH]

Diaw, Kawhi, and Danny are all pure magic that's happened in the last 5 years.

Bruce Bowen signed as a free agent, on a crappy little contract. Nobody saw him for what he became here. Spurs gave him over 4x as much the second year.
Stephen Jackson surprised everybody, including Stephen Jackson with how much he stepped up his first year.
Diaw was waived, and the sportswriters described him as "portly" when the Spurs took him.
Danny Green was an absolute cast-off.
Belinelli's stock was way down when the Spurs picked him up. He was fresh off a one year reduced-rate contract with Chicago.
Baynsie carried himself pretty well for a D-League call-up.


So, yeah, some of these guys could over-achieve and be a lot more than most people expect. I really think Bertans has that kind of potential. The more I consider Bourousis, and the fact that he and Bertans already know each others' games, the more I think that could be a great pickup. But with the cap set to balloon next season, I don't see a lot of bargain-type players being traded or waived at the deadline. So if we do pick up any new players that way, they're going to have to be the same kind of diamond in the rough as the guys above. Which means we won't see it coming.

Like I said, I'm just sort of resigned to it. I'm going to try and enjoy seeing some new blood, and see which ones step up. If Tony comes back in shape, and energized, this team could surprise a lot of fans. If he's lost another step, or if he's pouting over losing Diaw, he could make it a really ugly season.

[apalisoc_9]

Man..Duncan is taking forver to make a decision. It's holding the spurs hostage.

[Mugen]

:lol The Spurs have survived multiple "dynasties" and "superteams" over Duncan's career...

Sure, maybe the front office isn't as ahead of the curve as they were before but they've laid the groundwork for a successful sports franchise the last 30 years...a blueprint that the current Warriors have extolled as well...

Comparing the two front offices is pretty ridiculous considering SA is a much smaller market and they've done it for a much longer time period. What the Dubs have done in recent memory has been terrific and should absolutely be commended but lets not act like they've benefited from much higher draft picks and lucky breaks...

Spurs have caught their fair share of luck as well and I don't doubt that Golden State can be a powerhoues for a long time, but lets give it another decade before we start comparing front offices tbh....

[Mouth is Bleeding]

They extended our window brilliantly last offseason with LMA coming and Kawhi's contract.

We can build around those two and stay in contention the coming years. There will be space too eventually.

Years ago who would have thought that it wouldn't be total disaster when Timmy retired and Manu and Tony started declining?

Spurs now will actually keep winning and we're kept safely away from the dreadful losing seasons that all other teams suffer from routinely!

It's very good.

[SAGirl]

I wasn't making fun of you - or no more than I was myself. We can bitch and moan as much as we want to about who's getting the best FA's, or how weak the team looks. But once the first pre-season game rolls around, we're going to be seeing flashes of greatness in a bunch of new guys and wallowing in it unapologetically.

I was also laughing at the idea that this offseason has netted us a 9-fingered forward, and a hobbit SG (Frodo and Sam?), and Jarnell Stokes is headed to our SL team. And, honestly, the bitching and moaning is no worse than any other year. We're the most optimistic pessimists, or the most pessimistic optimists in the sports world.
:lol True. :toast
I was poking fun at you too bc my fandom has placed me fully in the Anderson for MIPoY camp. I mean who would have told us Anderson was going to be SL MVP at 21 years old? I would not put it past him to emerge as a MIP candidate this season bc he's a fiercer competitor than his calm demeanor shows, and: (1) he's put in work on his jumpshot to increase his scoring to add a 3 ball; and (2) he's going to have opportunities to play a role for sure this season. Spurs need him to play well. It could be said even to be darkhorse contenders Kyle needs to grow up this season and play well.

[Kawhitstorm]

Warriors backup SG spot just opened up..

If the front office doesn't want to pay Manu, wouldn't be too angry at him if he chases the ring instead, tbh:lol

He played with Kerr who always waxes poetic about him.:lol

[coachmac87]

Spurs are going to be fine. 2nd place isn't a bad thing tbh

[GSH]

:lol The Spurs have survived multiple "dynasties" and "superteams" over Duncan's career...

Sure, maybe the front office isn't as ahead of the curve as they were before but they've laid the groundwork for a successful sports franchise the last 30 years...a blueprint that the current Warriors have extolled as well...

Comparing the two front offices is pretty ridiculous considering SA is a much smaller market and they've done it for a much longer time period.


Yeah, you have to remember that Golden State drafted well, but they had the benefit of high draft picks from being a fucking doormat for... well, forever. The Spurs have held a contender-caliber team together while having the worst draft position of any team in the league over the Duncan Era. It's more than amazing, it's unheard-of. Give GS credit for what they've done. But in comparison, they ain't done anything yet. Come back in a decade, and it will be time to at least start comparing notes.

[Kawhitstorm]

For the vet min, Manu stays with the Spurs, tbh

I hope he retires & cedes his spot to Forbes.:wakeup

[Ice009]

He played with Kerr who always waxes poetic about him.:lol

I won't lie, Manu could be electric there. It might rejuvenate him playing there and could bring him back a little bit to the old days.

[Kawhitstorm]

Warriors built a loaded team even prior to winning a championship..they lucked out with Curry's contract, but outside of that, everything seems to have been planned and scouted well..

Spurs' front office still has the reputation of being ahead of the game, but they haven't lived up to the hype in years..it will be interesting to see if the success translates without Duncan there as the influence and leader..

PATFO don't have the nuts to trade Porker, the first domino for the Duds after they drafted Curry/Klay was Lacob having the nut to trade Monta Ellis when he was the most popular player on the team.

[Kawhitstorm]

I won't lie, Manu could be electric there. It might rejuvenate him playing there and bring him back a little bit to the old days.

...as if they don't have enough ball handlers prone to committing turnovers playing hot sauce.:lol Their main achilles has been turnovers even when everyone was healthy & they were firing on all cylinders. It might even be a bigger issue this season b/c they lost two starters & a majority of the bench. So if they don't win it all, I would suspect that turnovers will be front & center ala OKC.

[coachmac87]

PATFO don't have the nuts to trade Porker, the first domino for the Duds after they drafted Curry/Klay was Lacob having the nut to trade Monta Ellis when he was the most popular player on the team.

Did you just compare Monte Ellis to Tony Parker??

What a terrible take:lmao

[Spur|n|Austin]

We landed on the Moon!

:lmao

[SAGirl]

...as if they don't have enough ball handlers prone to committing turnovers playing hot sauce.:lol Their main achilles has been turnovers even when everyone was healthy & they were firing on all cylinders. It might even be a bigger issue this season b/c they lost two starters & a majority of the bench. So if they don't win it all, I would suspect that turnovers will be front & center ala OKC.
You found the bane!!!
And you know who do we have who are just an absolute terror creating TO?
Kawhi
Danny
Kyle... deflection central.
I am crossing fingers JSimms turns a corner for the better. Kyle and JSimms could potentially make more of a difference than Pau Gasol at the end of the day if they play well.

[Kawhitstorm]

Man, I want Terrence Jones or Dewayne Dedmon bad. That would give the bench so much more upside and versatility. I'm very surprised to see nothing on those two yet and like I said, SA should be an attractive place for upside 4/5's trying to make a name. You will get minutes on this team.

Terrence Jones is supposedly holding off for a substantial offer in the neighborhood of 8mill per which is something the Spurs can't offer, most likely teams have been offering him the MLE & he turned it down.

[SAGirl]

I mean what is the holdup with Manu anyways? Timmy?

[Kawhitstorm]

I mean what is the holdup with Manu anyways? Timmy?

PATFO are probably trying to offer Manu the Room Exception if Tim is returning. Otherwise, they would need the RE for a backup center so Manu would just get paid by going over the cap.

[Kawhitstorm]

You found the bane!!!
And you know who do we have who are just an absolute terror creating TO?
Kawhi
Danny
Kyle... deflection central.
I am crossing fingers JSimms turns a corner for the better. Kyle and JSimms could potentially make more of a difference than Pau Gasol at the end of the day if they play well.

Simmons might get 5 deflection & commit 10 turnovers.:lol

Had PATFO picked up Gary Payton II they would have been able to cause havoc w/ Danny/Kawhi/Kyle but alas Porker/Patty are two of the worst at getting deflections.

The Celtics would give 'em hell w/ Bradley/Smart/Jaylen Brown/Crowder/Horford.

[ElNono]

I hope he retires & cedes his spot to Forbes.:wakeup

He's not retiring, and we can have both, AFAIK

[ElNono]

I mean what is the holdup with Manu anyways? Timmy?

I think we'll have news soon. Basically, now Diaw is gone, Gasol is official, Murray is official, the rest of the dominos should fall...

[Kawhitstorm]

Did you just compare Monte Ellis to Tony Parker??

What a terrible take:lmao

Monta Ellis in his PRIME was MUCH BETTER than 2016 Porker, even in 2014 there was little difference.:rolleyes

[Chinook]

Simmons might get 5 deflection & commit 10 turnovers.:lol

Had PATFO picked up Gary Payton II they would have been able to cause havoc w/ Danny/Kawhi/Kyle but alas Porker/Patty are two of the worst at getting deflections.

The Celtics would give 'em hell w/ Bradley/Smart/Jaylen Brown/Crowder/Horford.

I do hope Pop doesn't believe that Simmons is a good defender. Never seen a dude struggle so hard to keep slower guys in front of him. Improving in that area would help -- especially with a three-and-D guy. But I don't know who could be had. Maybe KJ? Was he even a good defender anyway?

[objective]

If Murray is official, his deal is probably at the 120%, which shaves the cap room down slightly

[Chinook]

I think we'll have news soon. Basically, now Diaw is gone, Gasol is official, Murray is official, the rest of the dominos should fall...

I doubt Gasol is official. The only way the team could fit him in right now would be to renounce Manu, and I don't think they do that. It's not just about paying Ginobili, either. That hold allows them to keep RoFR on Boban. I think Diaw and maybe Murray are the only official things.

[GSH]

... Murray is official


When did that happen? Or are you just saying because he said he was playing Thursday night?

[ElNono]

I doubt Gasol is official. The only way the team could fit him in right now would be to renounce Manu, and I don't think they do that. It's not just about paying Ginobili, either. That hold allows them to keep RoFR on Boban. I think Diaw and maybe Murray are the only official things.

What makes me believe it's official is that Pau didn't announce the move to the Spurs in his twitter until after the Spurs traded Boris, even though his decision was well known before then.

I suspect PATFO is just looking around and waiting out a bit to see if they can make a deal or two before basically inking everybody.

[Kawhitstorm]

I doubt Gasol is official. The only way the team could fit him in right now would be to renounce Manu, and I don't think they do that. It's not just about paying Ginobili, either. That hold allows them to keep RoFR on Boban. I think Diaw and maybe Murray are the only official things.

Team are waiting for the dust to settle before they make Boban any offers but dude is as good as gone considering Hibbert got 5 mill.:lol

[ElNono]

When did that happen? Or are you just saying because he said he was playing Thursday night?

Basically. What I heard is that his agent wouldn't let him play without a deal signed. So if he's playing, I assume he's signed up (unless there's been a change of heart from his agent).

[SAGirl]

Simmons might get 5 deflection & commit 10 turnovers.:lol

Had PATFO picked up Gary Payton II they would have been able to cause havoc w/ Danny/Kawhi/Kyle but alas Porker/Patty are two of the worst at getting deflections.

The Celtics would give 'em hell w/ Bradley/Smart/Jaylen Brown/Crowder/Horford.
I am with you. Maybe a defensive type can be picked up midseason.
Of anything else this season, I am hoping that 3 ball from Kyle holds up.
I am going to have to add it to my avatar... keep shooting Kyle.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Monta Ellis in his PRIME was MUCH BETTER than 2016 Porker, even in 2014 there was little difference.:rolleyes


:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Chinook]

Team are waiting for the dust to settle before they make Boban any offers but dude is as good as gone considering Hibbert got 5 mill.:lol

I think the Spurs are going to have to face the realities of the market. Boban may get something like $32M/4, and that's not horrible for the team to match. I don't love the idea of committing to him long term yet, but he is who he is. Can't afford to have no backup center.

[Chinook]

Basically. What I heard is that his agent wouldn't let him play without a deal signed. So if he's playing, I assume he's signed up (unless there's been a change of heart from his agent).

I don't think he's signed yet, either. We'd have that tweet. I think the team has a deadline to get things done. Right now, Tim is holding them up something major. I feel they are planning on moving on, but they don't want to actually do anything about it. They should just go ahead and make the call.

[SAGirl]

Simmons might get 5 deflection & commit 10 turnovers.:lol

Had PATFO picked up Gary Payton II they would have been able to cause havoc w/ Danny/Kawhi/Kyle but alas Porker/Patty are two of the worst at getting deflections.

The Celtics would give 'em hell w/ Bradley/Smart/Jaylen Brown/Crowder/Horford.
JSimms might foul out trying to get the deflections... ah had to poke fun at him. :lol

[ElNono]

I don't think he's signed yet, either. We'd have that tweet. I think the team has a deadline to get things done. Right now, Tim is holding them up something major. I feel they are planning on moving on, but they don't want to actually do anything about it. They should just go ahead and make the call.

Maybe I should clarify, by official, I mean it's pretty clear that Gasol and Murray will sign when inking time comes. And, as you said, I don't think the Spurs will drag this out too long now.

[SAGirl]

I do hope Pop doesn't believe that Simmons is a good defender. Never seen a dude struggle so hard to keep slower guys in front of him. Improving in that area would help -- especially with a three-and-D guy. But I don't know who could be had. Maybe KJ? Was he even a good defender anyway?
I saw some of KJ in the one game I watched of the Rockets vs GSW series. He was good and they had no system. Specially transition defense absolute beast. No offensive game whatsoever though. Don't know what can be done for JSimms... so much athleticism... maybe he got in this league too late and has bad habits.

[Kawhitstorm]

I do hope Pop doesn't believe that Simmons is a good defender. Never seen a dude struggle so hard to keep slower guys in front of him. Improving in that area would help -- especially with a three-and-D guy. But I don't know who could be had. Maybe KJ? Was he even a good defender anyway?

KJ is actually similar to Danny, he is GREAT on the ball & weakside/transition defense but he gets lost off the ball.:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

I think the Spurs are going to have to face the realities of the market. Boban may get something like $32M/4, and that's not horrible for the team to match. I don't love the idea of committing to him long term yet, but he is who he is. Can't afford to have no backup center.

I heard Larry Sanders was planning a come back b/c he's running out of weed money.:lol

In any case, PATFO are probably pleading with Tim b/c they don't want to commit that type of money on a backup. If Tim retires, they will probably try to sign some washed up vet like Amar'e for the vet min.

I'm hoping they can get Willie Reed for the RE:

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[GSH]

Maybe I should clarify, by official, I mean it's pretty clear that Gasol and Murray will sign when inking time comes. And, as you said, I don't think the Spurs will drag this out too long now.

I wasn't trying to be a horse's ass. I thought maybe there had been some news that I had missed. I'm hoping tomorrow really will clear a lot of this up.



I do hope Pop doesn't believe that Simmons is a good defender. Never seen a dude struggle so hard to keep slower guys in front of him. Improving in that area would help -- especially with a three-and-D guy. But I don't know who could be had. Maybe KJ? Was he even a good defender anyway?


I haven't seen him yet this summer. You don't think he'll be good enough defensively to cover the kind of guys he'll be facing most of the time? I guess you should always plan for what happens if a guys goes down, and he has to be moved up. But I was hoping that he would have benefitted from a year in the Spurs' system - at least enough that he would be better than you're talking. It's always tough for me to be objective, when it's a guy I like.

[Chinook]

I haven't seen him yet this summer. You don't think he'll be good enough defensively to cover the kind of guys he'll be facing most of the time? I guess you should always plan for what happens if a guys goes down, and he has to be moved up. But I was hoping that he would have benefitted from a year in the Spurs' system - at least enough that he would be better than you're talking. It's always tough for me to be objective, when it's a guy I like.

I don't think he's very good at all. He's definitely worse than the top-four wings (counting Anderson as a wing still for the time being). Now, if Anderson moves to the four like I'm assuming he will, Simmons is the likely play at the backup SF position. With Manu being old and Mills being Mills, Simmons is the designated top perimeter defender. I'm not very confident in him in that role. I don't know who would be better that's attainable, though.

[Kawhitstorm]

I don't think he's very good at all. He's definitely worse than the top-four wings (counting Anderson as a wing still for the time being). Now, if Anderson moves to the four like I'm assuming he will, Simmons is the likely play at the backup SF position. With Manu being old and Mills being Mills, Simmons is the designated top perimeter defender. I'm not very confident in him in that role. I don't know who would be better that's attainable, though.

LJC can guard wings, dude is useless besides his defense ala Moute.

[Joseph Kony]

I heard Larry Sanders was planning a come back b/c he's running out of weed money.:lol

In any case, PATFO are probably pleading with Tim b/c they don't want to commit that type of money on a backup. If Tim retires, they will probably try to sign some washed up vet like Amar'e for the vet min.

I'm hoping they can get Willie Reed for the RE:

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:tu

At least they're looking at some of the players we hoped for

[Chinook]

LJC can guard wings, dude is useless besides his defense ala Moute.

Yes, he can. Just worried about how he'd fit into the offense right now.

[Nathan89]

KA is most likely to be the pf. Pretty crazy that he's the first "big" off the bench. I really wish we had a better pg to maximize that smallball lineup.

Also Simmons isn't going to be good enough to play the sf minutes. Either a move will have to be made or Bertans better be ready.

[Kawhitstorm]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Monta Ellis has had a MUCH better VORP than Porker the past THREE season.:lol

2013-14: http://bkref.com/tiny/WINVW

2014-15: http://bkref.com/tiny/OId4n

2015-16: http://bkref.com/tiny/6rPHV

:wakeup

[Nathan89]

I hope Spurs have other plans than signing Boban to fill the backup C spot. Can't be wasting money for a guy that isn't of any use vs the best team.

[Kawhitstorm]

Yes, he can. Just worried about how he'd fit into the offense right now.

Considering Pau/LMA are skilled bigs he would have to be the garbage man somewhat like Aminu on the Hornets.

[Joseph Kony]

There has to be some overseas players the Spurs are looking at

[GSH]

I don't think he's very good at all. He's definitely worse than the top-four wings (counting Anderson as a wing still for the time being). Now, if Anderson moves to the four like I'm assuming he will, Simmons is the likely play at the backup SF position. With Manu being old and Mills being Mills, Simmons is the designated top perimeter defender. I'm not very confident in him in that role. I don't know who would be better that's attainable, though.

Meh. I was hoping that he would come back looking better on defense. The turnovers are an even bigger problem then. Especially since there were more than a few times last season when someone else got credited for the TO, but he was really responsible for putting them in that position. I also thought his biggest problem on defense was just footwork, and that's a lot more fixable than a lack of understanding or instinct. But if you didn't see improvement, that doesn't bode well for his future here.

You know, there were also times when I thought he got beat but recovered pretty well. But that could just be me looking for the silver lining. Still, he'd be perfect for a Marc D'Antoni team, as-is. Maybe they'd trade Alessandro Gentile for him?

[Chinook]

Considering Pau/LMA are skilled bigs he would have to be the garbage man somewhat like Aminu on the Hornets.

But does he get into the rotation ahead of Bertans? Do the Spurs primarily run without a bench center and just work in PFs? Can LJC do anything on offense that can help keep up the flow that you'd expect that team to accomplish? I'm just not sure right now. And it's even worse that we haven't seen him play in a year at this point.

[kobyz]

It's time to trade for Rondo, the Bulls desperately need shooting now, why not trading Mills with Duncan contract to match salary for him? We needs pg who isn't liability on defense and Rondo at this point is also a better creator for him and others, and maybe Parker could thrive more as a backup/sixth man role...

[Kawhitstorm]

But does he get into the rotation ahead of Bertans? Do the Spurs primarily run without a bench center and just work in PFs? Can LJC do anything on offense that can help keep up the flow that you'd expect that team to accomplish? I'm just not sure right now. And it's even worse that we haven't seen him play in a year at this point.

It's probably best to go small by putting Kyle at the 4 & try to run the opposing bench off the floor. I feel like Bertans is going to be a spot duty type player like Morrow & someone you ride if he's hot.

[Center]
Kyle
LJC/Bertans
Manu/Simmons
Patty

[Mal]

Spurs are trying to reload the bench, by siging a lot of promissing D-Leaguers. Low risk, high gain type of move ? With GSW stacked as fuck, you can try whatever, and never be a loser in such decision.

[NASpurs]

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[playbonner15]

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So where's Hanga headed to?

[Keepin' it real]

I remember people here at Spurstalk wanting Livingston before he signed with Goldenstate. I don't get how fans here can recognize someone being a good player and then it appears the Spurs show no interest whatsoever.

We're smart. The Spurs are stupid. /thread

[NASpurs]

So with Manu back, Pop's dream of running a five guard bench lineup is becoming a reality. Can't wait to see Kyle playing the center position.

[TheGreatYacht]

It's probably best to go small by putting Kyle at the 4 & try to run the opposing bench off the floor. I feel like Bertans is going to be a spot duty type player like Morrow & someone you ride if he's hot.

[Center]
Kyle
LJC/Bertans
Manu/Simmons
Patty
Jesus Christ, that's one garbage ass bench. Mills is the only player that will score over 6ppg :lol

Boban, Stokes, Simmons, Forbes, Mills >>>> THAT crap

[MaNu4Tres]

Love how people are so quick to judge the bench, when its day 7 of Free Agency.

Spurs have their hands tied to make any other additions until Tim gives them an answer.

They'll address the front-court when they can w/the resources available -- which is dependent on TD retiring/spreaded & what Manu will make next year.

[Chomag]

Whatever happened to getting more younger and athletic this off season? Oh well, but I will say that this current roster will not complete very well in the playoffs. No question there will be heart but there will still be old bodies.

[Spurs9]

Whatever happened to getting more younger and athletic this off season? Oh well, but I will say that this current roster will not complete very well in the playoffs. No question there will be heart but there will still be old bodies.
Bertans, Denmon, Murray, Simmons, Khawi, LJC. Not too bad, our oldest players should be just Manu and Pau, assuming Duncan retires and Bonner leaves.

[loveforthegame]

Was this posted yet?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242743/NBA-Decreases-17-18-Cap-Space-Projection-From-$107M-To-$102M

Next years cap dropping from 107 to 102 million.

[sasaint]

Bertans, Denmon, Murray, Simmons, Khawi, LJC. Not too bad, our oldest players should be just Manu and Pau, assuming Duncan retires and Bonner leaves.

After The Decision by Manu/Spurs don't bet on Duncan's retiring or Bonner's leaving.

[TheGreatYacht]

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[ceperez]

Sad to see Boban and Bobo go. :-(

Well, hope the new team has better rim defense.

Pau/Dedmon
Aldridge/LJC
Leonard/Anderson/Bertans
Green/Ginobili/Simmons
Parker/Mills

No word though of LJC signing... is that legit? If not, Spurs still need to look for a PF.

[cjw]

Was this posted yet?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242743/NBA-Decreases-17-18-Cap-Space-Projection-From-$107M-To-$102M

Next years cap dropping from 107 to 102 million.


Interesting to see how this will impact the Warriors. Won't the Durant hold be based on 120% of prior year salary once he opts out? Assuming they renounce everyone else and move Looney and McCaw (guaranteed money) for nothing:




Thompson
$17,826,150


Green
$16,400,000


Curry (hold)
$16,402,500


Durant (hold)
$31,848,120


Dead money
$945,126


Roster holds (8)
$4,499,944


Total
$87,921,840


Space
$14,078,160



Because Durant will have to be resigned with cap space, Iguodala would have to be renounced and signed into cap space. $14 million plus the room exception is all they will have to play with. That's down from around $17 million.

Assuming Curry and Durant both get full max deals at $33.6 (Durant) and $28.8 (Curry), they'll be at $104.4 million and basically capped out with four guys two summers from now, plus whatever they commit to next offseason. Ring chasers will need to fill out the balance of the roster.

[Mr. Body]

Interesting to see how this will impact the Warriors. Won't the Durant hold be based on 120% of prior year salary once he opts out? Assuming they renounce everyone else and move Looney and McCaw (guaranteed money) for nothing:




Thompson
$17,826,150


Green
$16,400,000


Curry (hold)
$16,402,500


Durant (hold)
$31,848,120


Dead money
$945,126


Roster holds (8)
$4,499,944


Total
$87,921,840


Space
$14,078,160



Because Durant will have to be resigned with cap space, Iguodala would have to be renounced and signed into cap space. $14 million plus the room exception is all they will have to play with. That's down from around $17 million.

Assuming Curry and Durant both get full max deals at $33.6 (Durant) and $28.8 (Curry), they'll be at $104.4 million and basically capped out with four guys two summers from now, plus whatever they commit to next offseason. Ring chasers will need to fill out the balance of the roster.

This is why I keep saying Klay Thompson is gone sooner or later. Iguodala too, probably.

[montgod]

Sad to see Boban and Bobo go. :-(

Well, hope the new team has better rim defense.

Pau/Dedmon
Aldridge/LJC
Leonard/Anderson/Bertans
Green/Ginobili/Simmons
Parker/Mills

No word though of LJC signing... is that legit? If not, Spurs still need to look for a PF.

I would assume that's where the interest in Willie Reed, J Stokes comes into play if they accept whatever is left or minimum. I don't see the Spurs being able to afford a Thomas Robinson now.

[HarlemHeat37]

Anderson is going to play PF IMO..with Diaw leaving and Kyle bulking up, it would make sense..

Gasol/Dedmon
Aldridge/Anderson
Kawhi/Simmons/Bertans
Green/Manu
Parker/Mills

[SPURt]

Anderson is going to play PF IMO..with Diaw leaving and Kyle bulking up, it would make sense..

Gasol/Dedmon
Aldridge/Anderson
Kawhi/Simmons/Bertans
Green/Manu
Parker/Mills
This. Weak power forward seems to be way more promising than slow PG/SG/SF in the case for KA.

One thing is for sure, we are going to see Pop try a bunch of weird lineups this year.

[Chinook]

Anderson is going to play PF IMO..with Diaw leaving and Kyle bulking up, it would make sense..

Gasol/Dedmon
Aldridge/Anderson
Kawhi/Simmons/Bertans
Green/Manu
Parker/Mills

I agree, but I think the third center will be more of a tweener like Stokes. I don't think they want a bunch of combo-forwards behind LMA.