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marinoman
12-13-2018, 02:39 AM
Lamarcus Aldridge say hello. Spurs probably would have had Jason Kidd too if not for Tony Parker. You need two things to be successful franchise, building blocks to attract star free agents and assets to build a roster around star players. If you're a big enough star, you can make it anywhere.
Are you honestly trying to argue small markets have the same chance of getting/keeping stars? To me it’s evident they’re disadvantaged There are always outliers in everything. Look man we are going to firmly disagree on this. We just have a huge difference in opinion. I see no point in continuing to discuss this
JeffDuncan
12-13-2018, 03:03 AM
:lmao
Are you saying you really didn't know that? How long have you been following the NBA, about 2 weeks now, is it?
JeffDuncan
12-13-2018, 03:20 AM
Raptors are looking scary.
They truly are, and they're a fabulous road team, 12-3 on the road so far.
r0drig0lac
12-13-2018, 04:44 AM
Dumbass.
He doesnt care. His camp doesnt want him in Toronto. They want him to play as little as possible. Its sad, because he could be gunning for MVP but kawhi is a being a literal asswipe. I believe he is deficient mentaly. Hes clearly being used and hes fine with it.
The Goal now for him is Stats, and health.
I feel bad for the raptors, but I dont. I cant feel bad for fans who think its OK for a star to sitnout games so he can "rest" for the playoffs. Its not ok.
I'm off the kawhi bandwagon. Hope he breaks his legs and never plays a single minute ever again.
One lf the most cancerous NBA personalities to date. We're already seeing his influence with butler and Fultz too.
agree
Skip Bayless getting in on the act:
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nice
Are you honestly trying to argue small markets have the same chance of getting/keeping stars? To me it’s evident they’re disadvantaged There are always outliers in everything. Look man we are going to firmly disagree on this. We just have a huge difference in opinion. I see no point in continuing to discuss this
I still don't understand this small market argument for San Antonio as it's actually the second-biggest city in Texas right after Dallas and seventh most populous city in the US. San Antonio is anything but small, tbh.
r0drig0lac
12-13-2018, 04:55 AM
:lol Danny dumping on Curry
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alpha af
Wrong. KD went to the Warriors because he wanted a ring. Simple as that.
exactly, nothing more needs to be said, the guy just ran to the ring guaranteed, lol in "wanted to run away from Westbrook"
duncan2k5
12-13-2018, 05:41 AM
it shows that kawhi’s supporting cast are great..and this raptors team are stacked
Spurs without Duncan would win regular season games... But was by no means a great team, nor a team anyone would expect would win any meaningful playoff games
YGWHI
12-13-2018, 07:32 AM
Jerry definitely "gets coffee", since he's a "closer". He spirited Shaq away from an EC NBA Finals team, and got Durant to GS.
Pop gets the Mafia Don award, though, for trading Kawhi to a team he likely will not re-sign with, thereby costing him ANOTHER $40M. Steal $19M from us? How that ass taste, #2?
Los Angeles or any other team in the Western Conference, everyone already knew that Pop wouldn't trade Kawhi to a team in the West.
But what i find weird about this Clippers' recruitment...how is any of this "legal"?
Can a team does this shit with a player on other team before offseason? IDK...it seems a so dirty move that the league shouldn't allow
YGWHI
12-13-2018, 07:40 AM
It's just the fact that you post about a non-Spurs player on a Spurs forum in basically every thread.
On every thread? Not really.
You don't post about anything else but him.
About anything else?? Nah. I'm still the only one here saying the Spurs will make the playoffs and pass first round. I always posted about the Spurs not just Kawhi.
Are you expecting Spurs fans to simply change their stance on someone who did their team dirty?
I've said before I get the saltiness here. Don't have any issue with that. But people lying about his game is a different story. .
People here keep saying I'm the only one that enjoy watching him but all this forum watched his games this season. Not just me. Should we ask them why they keep watching him?
YGWHI
12-13-2018, 08:02 AM
If Kawhi leaves this team for either LA team :lmao
He heard many times in 7 years that "there are most important things in life than basketball"
His girl won't move to Canada. Kawhi lost his father, he already knew how is growing up without a dad, he didn't want that for his kids. Why is that bad if he wants to stay close to his little daughter?
I don't have kids yet but I guess it should be very sad not being there for them in 6/7 months/season?
Maybe other players don't care about it. Don't care about their children nor their baby mommas. Kawhi does. Why is this that bad?
YGWHI
12-13-2018, 08:14 AM
Should you give the supermax to a player unwilling to sit on the bench and clap for his teammates when he's unable to play? I mean, you don't need your supermax player to be an Avery Johnson style leader but do you want a supermax player who refuses to do the bare minimum that every other teammate in the league does?
The value of a contract is about what a player can do on court. If that player could be the difference between making playoffs/losing in first round every year and making conference finals every season? I would say def YES.
I would have given him a supermax contract to keep elite even if he wouldn't talk to Pop/RC/teammates in his life again.
skin27
12-13-2018, 08:19 AM
If kawhi wants a big market team then he should go to New York and play for the knicks..it’s a big market tha LA and he has a chance to become the greatest Knick ever if he somehow lead the Knick to an nba title..
tbh,, if I’m kawhi I’ll choose the Knicks over Lakers/clippers
MoSpur02
12-13-2018, 08:31 AM
The value of a contract is about what a player can do on court. If that player could be the difference between making playoffs/losing in first round every year and making conference finals every season? I would say def YES.
I would have given him a supermax contract to keep elite even if he wouldn't talk to Pop/RC/teammates in his life again.
You obviously don't get it.
SAGirl
12-13-2018, 08:41 AM
I can't help you regarding reading comprehension. #2 will not do what is expected from most players by playing two nights in a row - make no mistake #2 and his people are in charge of his physical condition and when he plays. He has been healthy enough to play for 10 months and he refused to play in SA and took a dump on team management, teammates, and fans last Spring. The guy will not risk playing back to backs now because he does not want to have some kind of setback when $140-$200MM is in play.
The hero ball stats when he feels like playing are all that matters - this season in Canada is nothing more than a conduit for the "group". I believe this guy may end up like Dez Bryant or Bill Walton in the next few years where is body is breaking down and simply cannot recover in a timely manner.
The Spurs probably did not offer a Max deal (when they could have) because they know Nephew has a chronic pain issue due to the knee tendons. It may never get truly better and the pounding of an 82 game schedule plus playoffs is too painful for him to complete. I believe the Spurs doctors may have been right all along and questioned this guys long term ability to play and it freaked out the "group". They rebelled and are trying to get nephew through the season in more or less one piece.
This is in summary more or less what I believed. :tu
YGWHI
12-13-2018, 08:47 AM
You obviously don't get it.
Do you think that Warriors wanted KD to cheer for his teammates? To be a leader in the locker room? He's not that guy. They wanted him for what he does on court.
Kobe and Shaq won rings hating each other in public...Phil could handle it.
It's not like Jordan was a nice guy with most of his teammates...Phil could deal with that.
But Pop couldn't deal with just a greedy uncle??
You don't need a player to be a "good guy" nor a "good teammate" to win...You need a guy who can perform as a superstar. That's all.
But I guess YOU don't get this.
lefty
12-13-2018, 08:50 AM
Nick Nurse >>>>> Pop
SAGirl
12-13-2018, 08:53 AM
Danny doing everything Aldridge is supposed to do plus defending GS' all-time great perimeter players. All to the tune of $10 mil :lmao
PATFO throwing him away. (And I like Pooodle):lol PATFO playing him with a torn groin half a season, no wonder he sucked to end the year...
YGWHI
12-13-2018, 08:57 AM
Nick Nurse >>>>> Pop
I will want until playoffs.
There are many guys on Raptors that couldn't deal with pressure in previous years. Nurse didn't do well in close games this season either.
Most media was talking about things like why he went really small vs Nets in the last minute when one of Ibaka/JV could have helped in the paint, that Bradley outcoached him in the last game in Boston, etc.
But to be fair, he showed a lot of nice strategies vs GSW. Not just last night, in the previous game too.
bklynspursfan
12-13-2018, 09:30 AM
PATFO throwing him away. (And I like Pooodle):lol PATFO playing him with a torn groin half a season, no wonder he sucked to end the year...
:wakeup
BackHome
12-13-2018, 09:41 AM
You need a guy to play - You Just Don't Get It
duncan2k5
12-13-2018, 10:07 AM
Nah. Beyond the bad teammate issue, you can’t dump money like that into a player that can’t stay on the court. There is a reason, even though other teams would not have to pay the SuperMax that other teams didn’t try to get Kawhi.
Yea... Because of the risk of him leaving... Every single team would sign him to a supermax... Spurs played cute and are now in the lottery
exstatic
12-13-2018, 10:19 AM
The value of a contract is about what a player can do on court. If that player could be the difference between making playoffs/losing in first round every year and making conference finals every season? I would say def YES.
I would have given him a supermax contract to keep elite even if he wouldn't talk to Pop/RC/teammates in his life again.
Y'Know, if the Spurs and The Group could have worked something like this out, it could have happened. That all went in the toilet when he refused to play beyond 9 games. My guess is that he was at least as healthy last year as this year, but sat to try to force a trade.
exstatic
12-13-2018, 10:26 AM
If kawhi wants a big market team then he should go to New York and play for the knicks..it’s a big market tha LA and he has a chance to become the greatest Knick ever if he somehow lead the Knick to an nba title..
tbh,, if I’m kawhi I’ll choose the Knicks over Lakers/clippers
Who cares about being the greatest Knick? They suck, will suck, and mostly have sucked since 1946. They have 30 more NBA seasons than SA, and 3 fewer championships. Their ownership is a disgrace. Their historical record is sub .500. both regular season and post season. They had every advantage, large market, big $$$, and they've pissed them away.
bklynspursfan
12-13-2018, 10:39 AM
Yea... Because of the risk of him leaving... Every single team would sign him to a supermax... Spurs played cute and are now in the lottery
Oooooh, so that's why nephew wanted out..... :rolleyes
SAGirl
12-13-2018, 11:04 AM
:wakeup
Shooting guard Danny Green said that he played for San Antonio with a groin tear in 2017-18, but it was undetected by the Spurs until an end-of-season physical, he said (https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/episode-1-danny-and-kawhi-get-traded/id1416407829?i=1000416474505&mt=2) on his Inside the Green Room with Danny Green podcast.
Green noted that he strained his groin against Boston in December, but still played 70 games over the course of the season. Green missed five games in December due to the injury.
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/07/24/danny-green-groin-injury-spurs-medical-staff
I said it was since midseason, but it might have been longer. He got hurt in early December and his condition wasn't properly followed up, according to his statement.
Ginobilly
12-13-2018, 11:06 AM
Is kawhi now the biggest cancerous player in the history of the nba?
Imo he's now surpassed rasheed, rondo, Carmelo, rose, mccants, cousins, artest, captain jack, etc. Those guys at least played when healthy, kawhi gets away with a lot because he's a former fmvp/dpoty and is considered a top 3 player. How long before the league and sponsors blackball and turn on him?
DAF86
12-13-2018, 11:10 AM
He heard many times in 7 years that "there are most important things in life than basketball"
His girl won't move to Canada. Kawhi lost his father, he already knew how is growing up without a dad, he didn't want that for his kids. Why is that bad if he wants to stay close to his little daughter?
I don't have kids yet but I guess it should be very sad not being there for them in 6/7 months/season?
Maybe other players don't care about it. Don't care about their children nor their baby mommas. Kawhi does. Why is this that bad?
It is bad because that would expose his intentions all along, which have always been moving to LA. He and his uncle put on a circus to try and make it seem like the reason they left San Antonio is because the Spurs fucked up, but the reality is that they always wanted to move to LA and there was nothing the Spurs could do to prevent that.
Dejounte
12-13-2018, 11:21 AM
Yea... Because of the risk of him leaving... Every single team would sign him to a supermax... Spurs played cute and are now in the lottery
Example #1 of making speculation seem like facts. You're a piece of shit. This is not a factual statement. Provide your source. Get off Kawhi's nuts.
skin27
12-13-2018, 11:21 AM
Who cares about being the greatest Knick? They suck, will suck, and mostly have sucked since 1946. They have 30 more NBA seasons than SA, and 3 fewer championships. Their ownership is a disgrace. Their historical record is sub .500. both regular season and post season. They had every advantage, large market, big $$$, and they've pissed them away.
kawhi will be in the top 10 goat players if he can turn around a big market team like the Knicks and make it a championship team..
exstatic
12-13-2018, 11:29 AM
kawhi will be in the top 10 goat players if he can turn around a big market team like the Knicks and make it a championship team..
Never happen on Dolan's watch. He's both "hands on" and incompetent, a bad, bad combination.
Fusternino
12-13-2018, 11:45 AM
Is kawhi now the biggest cancerous player in the history of the nba?
Imo he's now surpassed rasheed, rondo, Carmelo, rose, mccants, cousins, artest, captain jack, etc. Those guys at least played when healthy, kawhi gets away with a lot because he's a former fmvp/dpoty and is considered a top 3 player. How long before the league and sponsors blackball and turn on him?
Sheed wasn't a cancer . . .
bklynspursfan
12-13-2018, 11:46 AM
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/07/24/danny-green-groin-injury-spurs-medical-staff
I said it was since midseason, but it might have been longer. He got hurt in early December and his condition wasn't properly followed up, according to his statement.
That's not all he said tho fwiw
“They said maybe you should get it checked. My agent said maybe you should get a second opinion. I didn’t want to because I have full faith and believe in the Spurs staff. They’ve always been great to me, they’ve always done right be me, and they’ve always done a helluva job. Throughout the season we’ve monitored it, but we never went back to check on it again because so many other injuries have happened, and I should have gotten a second opinion…not saying that the Spurs staff is not up to par, it’s just that not everyone is a specialist in every area…
“At the end of the season, I come to find out it could have happened that day or that playoff series against GS, but we don’t know. At the end of the season I had to get another MRI because you get your exit physicals, and the strain was still there with a full tear. Since then, I’ve been rehabbing it, and now they’ve passed that information on to Toronto. We don’t know how long I’ve been playing with this strain (he probably meant tear) or when it happened…a second opinion could have helped, but they did a great job. They did everything they could, but I think it would have been nice to see a specialist just to see if there was another angle or another view.
“You could tell my play deteriorated towards the end of the season, I wasn’t the same, but in my competitive nature I didn’t want to leave the floor. I didn’t want to leave the floor regardless, and I felt that pressure that we needed to win. We needed everybody, and if I wasn’t playing we really didn’t have much of a shot. If Kawhi’s not playing, we have less of a shot. We missed a couple of other starters and myself. I probably should have sat out, waited, took some time, or did another evaluation, gotten a second opinion, but we’re doing that now.”
Fusternino
12-13-2018, 11:46 AM
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/07/24/danny-green-groin-injury-spurs-medical-staff
I said it was since midseason, but it might have been longer. He got hurt in early December and his condition wasn't properly followed up, according to his statement.
Danny came out after that report and said Spurs were getting too much heat for that-they told him to get a second opinion but he just wanted to play hurt anyways.
marinoman
12-13-2018, 12:29 PM
I still don't understand this small market argument for San Antonio as it's actually the second-biggest city in Texas right after Dallas and seventh most populous city in the US. San Antonio is anything but small, tbh.
Is that why they only have 1 major sports team? Dallas and Houston are far more populated than SA.
So now we have someone arguing SA is not a small market...Good God
bic50
12-13-2018, 12:33 PM
Is kawhi now the biggest cancerous player in the history of the nba?
Imo he's now surpassed rasheed, rondo, Carmelo, rose, mccants, cousins, artest, captain jack, etc. Those guys at least played when healthy, kawhi gets away with a lot because he's a former fmvp/dpoty and is considered a top 3 player. How long before the league and sponsors blackball and turn on him?
This has to be one of the dumbest post I've read hear. That's saying a lot
coachmac87
12-13-2018, 12:44 PM
Y'Know, if the Spurs and The Group could have worked something like this out, it could have happened. That all went in the toilet when he refused to play beyond 9 games. My guess is that he was at least as healthy last year as this year, but sat to try to force a trade.
PATFO called their bluff and Kawhi showed his true colors..it wasn’t a coincidence that immediately when Pop suggested they were considering shutting him down..Kawhi shows up. He then tells the media etc that he’s close and pretty much gives the hint he’s coming back.
That time passes and Kawhi once again becomes shady and then comes the players only meeting. The BS surfaced and was reeking and the players and PATFO could all smell it. He gets called out by his peers and he folds and takes his ball home..again disappears from the team and stops showing up. Spud probably felt it was best because once he openly showed his I uncommitted ways it’s a distraction across the board.
IMO this all started in the off-season due to the super max contract extension. The group wanted the deal or agreement meanwhile Spurs wanted to wait and they had every right too. The SM isn’t a joke and isn’t something you cave into especially since there’s been “issues” with The Group that was reported by Michael C Wright...
So Kawhi pulled a Leveon Bell and decided I’m not playing or risking myself without the SM...and the war began. PATFO still somewhat believed in Kawhi the person but just not his posse intentions..they tried to give him the benefit of doubt etc but he took the side of his group.
The “trust” as reported was ultimately broken and something had to be done...Spurs could’ve made things really ugly but felt it would’nt be best for both parties and did what they could.
I also believe Kawhi never liked being in SA. Even though I’m sure he appreciates the development and the winning he experienced his money and brand was on his mind...he just couldn’t do anything due to the presence of Duncan and “culture” being around. Like he told Ramona Shelburne he knew he’d never get the benefit of the doubt due to Spurs reputation and him being an up and comer.
Spurs always showed their all in commitment to him...they halted when they sensed and realized he wasn’t as committed and unlike The Big 3 it was more about him and not the franchise..
Ginobilly
12-13-2018, 12:47 PM
This has to be one of the dumbest post I've read hear. That's saying a lot
Uh no. Kawhi has recently turned into an individual who is showing that he only cares about himself and his future contracts. Doesn't sit on the bench to be with his teammates and support them. He thinks he's bigger than the game of basketball by pulling all these childish tantrums.
I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls the same shit on the clips, if he goes. Which is looking likely with the way he is treating his stay in toronto.
bic50
12-13-2018, 12:52 PM
Nope
Yup
SpurPadre
12-13-2018, 12:53 PM
Nick Nurse >>>>> Pop
Pop's 5 rings>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nurse's 0 rings
bic50
12-13-2018, 12:55 PM
Uh no. Kawhi has recently turned into an individual who is showing that he only cares about himself and his future contracts. Doesn't sit on the bench to be with his teammates and support them. He thinks he's bigger than the game of basketball by pulling all these childish tantrums.
I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls the same shit on the clips, if he goes. Which is looking likely with the way he is treating his stay in toronto.
Only fans here are saying these kinds of things. No one on the raptors have had any complaints about Kawhi as a player or teammate. They're being taken seriously right now because Kawhi is there even though they're winning without him the fact he's on their team is why many are seeing them as finals bound.
bic50
12-13-2018, 12:56 PM
Pop's 5 rings>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nurse's 0 rings
Pop has 0 rings when he was a rookie coach
Is that why they only have 1 major sports team? Dallas and Houston are far more populated than SA.
So now we have someone arguing SA is not a small market...Good God
Small market is a bit of a stretch for SA. It's sort of middle of the pack. This small market argument has been around since the 90s and its very definition has to be revisited. Old dogs like may not like it but we're already in the late 2010s.
SAGirl
12-13-2018, 01:21 PM
That's not all he said tho fwiw
You want to take it up with sports illustrated ? In synthesis the same.
SAGirl
12-13-2018, 01:22 PM
Danny came out after that report and said Spurs were getting too much heat for that-they told him to get a second opinion but he just wanted to play hurt anyways.
He wanted to play but he’s not a doctor is he?
bic50
12-13-2018, 01:49 PM
Dumbass.
He doesnt care. His camp doesnt want him in Toronto. They want him to play as little as possible. Its sad, because he could be gunning for MVP but kawhi is a being a literal asswipe. I believe he is deficient mentaly. Hes clearly being used and hes fine with it.
The Goal now for him is Stats, and health.
I feel bad for the raptors, but I dont. I cant feel bad for fans who think its OK for a star to sitnout games so he can "rest" for the playoffs. Its not ok.
I'm off the kawhi bandwagon. Hope he breaks his legs and never plays a single minute ever again.
One lf the most cancerous NBA personalities to date. We're already seeing his influence with butler and Fultz too.
Calling Kawhi deficient mentally then at the same time saying you hope he breaks his legs :lol. Weren't you saying the same about Parker and wanting him to break his legs? And he was playing. Seek help
Keepin' it real
12-13-2018, 02:02 PM
Raptors are looking scary.
Dr. Grant would agree with you.
https://johnkennethmuir.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/jp3d.jpg
bklynspursfan
12-13-2018, 02:12 PM
You want to take it up with sports illustrated ? In synthesis the same.
nah I'm good. Just putting the quote with more context in there
apalisoc_9
12-13-2018, 02:55 PM
Calling Kawhi deficient mentally then at the same time saying you hope he breaks his legs :lol. Weren't you saying the same about Parker and wanting him to break his legs? And he was playing. Seek help
Kawhi is a league cancer.
His influence is already apparent with Fultz and Butler.
Still, his managment has complete control over him.
He is aa child in a mans body. Cant think for himself. Cant make decisions for himself.
Gobigorgohome
12-13-2018, 03:25 PM
And can not poop by him self with those big hands poor guy lol glade he is not here with danny bumb green anymore
Only fans here are saying these kinds of things. No one on the raptors have had any complaints about Kawhi as a player or teammate. They're being taken seriously right now because Kawhi is there even though they're winning without him the fact he's on their team is why many are seeing them as finals bound.
Cmon man of course they have no complaints right now. they are walking on eggshells this whole season. They have to. Unless they get clear info that he is definitely leaving, they can’t afford to say one negative word about him.
TheGreatYacht
12-13-2018, 03:55 PM
Kawhi's posse looking smarter and smarter by the game. PATFO? Not so much.
Glad to see he has a team and coach that want to win.
bic50
12-13-2018, 04:11 PM
Cmon man of course they have no complaints right now. they are walking on eggshells this whole season. They have to. Unless they get clear info that he is definitely leaving, they can’t afford to say one negative word about him.
By why? They apparently don't need him. They should say what they feel and if he doesn't like it then let him walk. But there's also the chance they don't have any issues with him.
bic50
12-13-2018, 04:13 PM
Kawhi is a league cancer.
His influence is already apparent with Fultz and Butler.
Still, his managment has complete control over him.
He is aa child in a mans body. Cant think for himself. Cant make decisions for himself.
Don't see anyone else other then maybe skip bayless saying anything like this about him.
bic50
12-13-2018, 04:14 PM
And can not poop by him self with those big hands poor guy lol glade he is not here with danny bumb green anymore
Raptors are happy af to have them.
Ginobilly
12-13-2018, 04:34 PM
Cmon man of course they have no complaints right now. they are walking on eggshells this whole season. They have to. Unless they get clear info that he is definitely leaving, they can’t afford to say one negative word about him.
True
He's already showing signs of someone who doesn't plan or want to be there. His wife supposedly stayed in san diego instead of following her man. Doesn't want to answer friendly questions about xmas or about the city. Doesn't sit on the bench to support teammates. He has "sour partner" written all over him. He definitely has an attitude problem with the way he carries himself as a man dealing with his work ethic and his colleagues.
It's definitely goes to be interesting if kawhi pulls his resting shenanigans in the playoffs...
Mikeanaro
12-13-2018, 04:39 PM
Westbrook and Durant did just fine in OKC and that's a smaller market than San Antonio.
They went there via draft, I really doubt they can get star players in FA.
And I dont count Paul George as a star player, more like B class.
r0drig0lac
12-13-2018, 04:47 PM
They went there via draft, I really doubt they can get star players in FA.
And I dont count Paul George as a star player, more like B class.
since he is clearly one of the top 20 players in the league, this is with you, Sam Presti is one of the best at work and will always find a way to update his team. I would not be surprised if they got another star in the next two seasons, regardless of what people talk about, players love Westbrook (Durant just wanted the ring guaranteed)
Mikeanaro
12-13-2018, 04:47 PM
Calling Kawhi deficient mentally then at the same time saying you hope he breaks his legs :lol. Weren't you saying the same about Parker and wanting him to break his legs? And he was playing. Seek help
Lets say apa is wrong, is Kawhi mentally efficient?
Hoops Czar
12-13-2018, 04:57 PM
They went there via draft, I really doubt they can get star players in FA.
And I dont count Paul George as a star player, more like B class.
Well, according to HarlemHeat37 criteria for being a star, he was all NBA 4 times so that qualifies him for being an all star but not a superstar.
Mikeanaro
12-13-2018, 05:14 PM
since he is clearly one of the top 20 players in the league, this is with you, Sam Presti is one of the best at work and will always find a way to update his team. I would not be surprised if they got another star in the next two seasons, regardless of what people talk about, players love Westbrook (Durant just wanted the ring guaranteed)
Where?
Durant
Gianis
Curry
Thompson
Westbrook
Lebron
Kawhi
AD
KYRIE
LMA
Blake
Harden
CP3
Ben Simmons
Lillard
Wall
DeRozan
Embiid
KAT
Lavine
Butler
And lets forget Carmelos, Haywards, DWERTs, KLoves, George is in that league.
And new kids like Tatum, Mitchell, probably Kuzma.
Presti is doing terrible, got Carmelo who was a washed up guy, also played for a couple of years with rotation players just to end up with Raymond Felton, I really doubt he will get a decent piece who wants to waste time while WB steals the show to get some stats.
exstatic
12-13-2018, 05:32 PM
since he is clearly one of the top 20 players in the league, this is with you, Sam Presti is one of the best at work and will always find a way to update his team. I would not be surprised if they got another star in the next two seasons, regardless of what people talk about, players love Westbrook (Durant just wanted the ring guaranteed)
That's going to be really hard to do with RW's supermax kicking in.
Genovaswitness
12-13-2018, 05:43 PM
True
He's already showing signs of someone who doesn't plan or want to be there. His wife supposedly stayed in san diego instead of following her man. Doesn't want to answer friendly questions about xmas or about the city. Doesn't sit on the bench to support teammates. He has "sour partner" written all over him. He definitely has an attitude problem with the way he carries himself as a man dealing with his work ethic and his colleagues.
It's definitely goes to be interesting if kawhi pulls his resting shenanigans in the playoffs...
it's hilarious seeing the fucktard raptors fans on reddit thinking they have a chance of keeping kawhi
r0drig0lac
12-13-2018, 05:49 PM
Where?
Durant
Gianis
Curry
Thompson
Westbrook
Lebron
Kawhi
AD
KYRIE
LMA
Blake
Harden
CP3
Ben Simmons
Lillard
Wall
DeRozan
Embiid
KAT
Lavine
Butler
And lets forget Carmelos, Haywards, DWERTs, KLoves, George is in that league.
And new kids like Tatum, Mitchell, probably Kuzma.
Presti is doing terrible, got Carmelo who was a washed up guy, also played for a couple of years with rotation players just to end up with Raymond Felton, I really doubt he will get a decent piece who wants to waste time while WB steals the show to get some stats.
Klay?Lavine?Wall?old CP3, Ben? no way, other guys like Derozan,Butler and Blake (I have not looked at the whole list, sure there are other debatable ones) are on the same general level (and preferably depending on what each one values)
the superstar level guys will clearly be better (Lebron, Kawhi, Durant, Giannis, Davis, Curry, Westbrook, Harden and Imo Joel), no guy out of that list is clearly "better" than Paul George
hilarious put Tatum there when except 3pt he does absolutely nothing at the level of Paul George
duncan2k5
12-13-2018, 06:06 PM
PATFO called their bluff and Kawhi showed his true colors..it wasn’t a coincidence that immediately when Pop suggested they were considering shutting him down..Kawhi shows up. He then tells the media etc that he’s close and pretty much gives the hint he’s coming back.
That time passes and Kawhi once again becomes shady and then comes the players only meeting. The BS surfaced and was reeking and the players and PATFO could all smell it. He gets called out by his peers and he folds and takes his ball home..again disappears from the team and stops showing up. Spud probably felt it was best because once he openly showed his I uncommitted ways it’s a distraction across the board.
IMO this all started in the off-season due to the super max contract extension. The group wanted the deal or agreement meanwhile Spurs wanted to wait and they had every right too. The SM isn’t a joke and isn’t something you cave into especially since there’s been “issues” with The Group that was reported by Michael C Wright...
So Kawhi pulled a Leveon Bell and decided I’m not playing or risking myself without the SM...and the war began. PATFO still somewhat believed in Kawhi the person but just not his posse intentions..they tried to give him the benefit of doubt etc but he took the side of his group.
The “trust” as reported was ultimately broken and something had to be done...Spurs could’ve made things really ugly but felt it would’nt be best for both parties and did what they could.
I also believe Kawhi never liked being in SA. Even though I’m sure he appreciates the development and the winning he experienced his money and brand was on his mind...he just couldn’t do anything due to the presence of Duncan and “culture” being around. Like he told Ramona Shelburne he knew he’d never get the benefit of the doubt due to Spurs reputation and him being an up and comer.
Spurs always showed their all in commitment to him...they halted when they sensed and realized he wasn’t as committed and unlike The Big 3 it was more about him and not the franchise..
So he was faking the limp? And he was playing like garbage on purpose for the 9 games when it looked like he was clearly not himself yet?
duncan2k5
12-13-2018, 06:09 PM
it's hilarious seeing the fucktard raptors fans on reddit thinking they have a chance of keeping kawhi
Why would they want to keep him? I thought he was a cancer and everyone could see it?
Mikeanaro
12-13-2018, 06:11 PM
Klay?Lavine?Wall?old CP3, Ben? no way, other guys like Derozan,Butler and Blake (I have not looked at the whole list, sure there are other debatable ones) are on the same general level (and preferably depending on what each one values)
the superstar level guys will clearly be better (Lebron, Kawhi, Durant, Giannis, Davis, Curry, Westbrook, Harden and Imo Joel), no guy out of that list is clearly "better" than Paul George
hilarious put Tatum there when except 3pt he does absolutely nothing at the level of Paul George
Old CP3 did more last season for his team than PG and has been relevant all his career, went down and Rockets lost the 2 games.
Tatum is in the lets forget part, did the same than PG for his team, reach the EC finals.
I think you missed last season playoffs if you think Tatum just makes 3s.
PG failed to get to the finals with a stacked team, twice in a dead conference.
And nowadays plays second fiddle to WB, most beta move ever.
So from having your own team, to beta.
Whats his contribution? first round exit?
Rusty
12-13-2018, 06:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ojz2EwUJ-A
Cowherd went in on Kawhi:lol
r0drig0lac
12-13-2018, 06:21 PM
Old CP3 did more last season for his team than PG and has been relevant all his career, went down and Rockets lost the 2 games.
Tatum is in the lets forget part, did the same than PG for his team, reach the EC finals.
I think you missed last season playoffs if you think Tatum just makes 3s.
PG failed to get to the finals with a stacked team, twice in a dead conference.
And nowadays plays second fiddle to WB, most beta move ever.
So from having your own team, to beta.
Whats his contribution? first round exit?
What does that really mean? it was traded, do you think he should go to another team just to be the "alpha" or something? look at the rest of the list you made, who did more than PG13 with the Pacers (one of the only times Lebron was "challenged" in the east)? his argument made no sense, but when you fill the list with guys like Lavine, Blake, Wall, Butler, KAT makes even less sense, none of these guys did anything, I could put Irving in there too but he actually won a title as b from one of the top five players in the sport's history so that means something (although PG13 is better as a basketball player)
Hoops Czar
12-13-2018, 06:45 PM
Old CP3 did more last season for his team than PG and has been relevant all his career, went down and Rockets lost the 2 games.
Tatum is in the lets forget part, did the same than PG for his team, reach the EC finals.
I think you missed last season playoffs if you think Tatum just makes 3s.
PG failed to get to the finals with a stacked team, twice in a dead conference.
And nowadays plays second fiddle to WB, most beta move ever.
So from having your own team, to beta.
Whats his contribution? first round exit?
Speaking of Beta's, Why did you put DeRozen on that list?
Mikeanaro
12-13-2018, 06:51 PM
What does that really mean? it was traded, do you think he should go to another team just to be the "alpha" or something? look at the rest of the list you made, who did more than PG13 with the Pacers (one of the only times Lebron was "challenged" in the east)? his argument made no sense, but when you fill the list with guys like Lavine, Blake, Wall, Butler, KAT makes even less sense, none of these guys did anything, I could put Irving in there too but he actually won a title as b from one of the top five players in the sport's history so that means something (although PG13 is better as a basketball player)
Had the chance to go to other teams, and he said he was fine in OKC, do you read the news? He re-signed with them.
More? LMA and Kiwi went to the WCF, Harden and CP3, Horford Rozier and Tatum, WB & Durant, Lebron & Kyrie.
Blake is not a superstar?
Now its about accomplishments? then nobody is a superstar unless championships happens.
PG died after 2014, what are his accomplishments after that date? losing in the 1st round twice?
coachmac87
12-13-2018, 06:55 PM
So he was faking the limp? And he was playing like garbage on purpose for the 9 games when it looked like he was clearly not himself yet?
Where did I say he faked his injury??
Mikeanaro
12-13-2018, 06:57 PM
Speaking of Beta's, Why did you put DeRozen on that list?
Because he is more than PG.
DeRozan was no beta in Torontelo.
Also, who is the alpha in SA now?
There is none.
When Spurs went to the WCF a couple years ago there was no alpha either.
r0drig0lac
12-13-2018, 06:58 PM
Had the chance to go to other teams, and he said he was fine in OKC, do you read the news?
why would not he be? I still do not understand what he did here that might seem weak or "beta" to you, the way you speak, it looks like he went to a team historically stacked with a proven championship core or formed a super team with friends to accumulate rings (which is a weak attitude, but not as weak as the first quoted, obviously)
Blake is not a superstar?
no
Mikeanaro
12-13-2018, 07:09 PM
why would not he be? I still do not understand what he did here that might seem weak or "beta" to you, the way you speak, it looks like he went to a team historically stacked with a proven championship core or formed a super team with friends to accumulate rings (which is a weak attitude, but not as weak as the first quoted, obviously)
no
Because he is playing with the biggest ball hog ever? lost in the first round? team stats were terrible? no ball movement?
So Blake is not a star?
At least he could beat the championship defenders in 2015 along with ¨old¨CP3.
Thats more than a guy that had his best days in the dead east with only 1 good team to beat and now lost in the first round 3 times.
duncan2k5
12-13-2018, 07:28 PM
Because he is more than PG.
DeRozan was no beta in Torontelo.
Also, who is the alpha in SA now?
There is none.
When Spurs went to the WCF a couple years ago there was no alpha either.
Kawhi wasn't an alpha in 2017? The revisionist history on here is crazy... Soon ppl will say Kawhi was the worst player on the roster
r0drig0lac
12-13-2018, 07:31 PM
Because he is playing with the biggest ball hog ever?
that's your opinion, just that, which is actually irrelevant to the issue raised, here you are showing only a clear hate against Westbrook., so whatever
lost in the first round?
like Lamarcus Aldridge without Kawhi Leonard
team stats were terrible?
they were the best defense in the league before Andre Roberson got injured, regardless, how could this be the fault of a single player?
ps: I did not really check, so I'm acting here like you're telling the truth.
So Blake is not a star?
yes,no doubt, he is not a superstar.
At least he could beat the championship defenders in 2015 along with ¨old¨CP3.
yes, in the best series of cp3's carrer, they had the advantage of playing at home and the series was decided on a ball with 0:07 in the clock in a game 7, in the next round they to be defeated by Josh Smith
ps: cp3 of this series was clearly not the current cp3, so I did not understand this reference
Thats more than a guy that had his best days in the dead east with only 1 good team to beat and now lost in the first round 3 times.
not really since the PG13 actually made the final of the conference as the first offensive option and was clearly the best player on his team
taking into account your comments on "achievements", I still do not understand Wall and Lavine (lmao) in your list
apalisoc_9
12-13-2018, 07:34 PM
Probably the most protected star in the league right now.
What he's doing right now in toronto. Anyone else will be killed for his managment antics.
Curry is probay the only other guy that I can think off that has the same level of protection.
The fact that no one has spoken about their antics of no back to back ( for max contract) is honestly depressing.
r0drig0lac
12-13-2018, 07:35 PM
Probably the most protected star in the league right now.
What he's doing right now in toronto. Anyone else will be killed for his managment antics.
Curry is probay the only other guy that I can think off that has the same level of protection.
The fact that no one has spoken about their antics of no back to back ( for max contract) is honestly depressing.
Davis and Durant
duncan2k5
12-13-2018, 07:35 PM
PATFO called their bluff and Kawhi showed his true colors..it wasn’t a coincidence that immediately when Pop suggested they were considering shutting him down..Kawhi shows up. He then tells the media etc that he’s close and pretty much gives the hint he’s coming back.
That time passes and Kawhi once again becomes shady and then comes the players only meeting. The BS surfaced and was reeking and the players and PATFO could all smell it. He gets called out by his peers and he folds and takes his ball home..again disappears from the team and stops showing up. Spud probably felt it was best because once he openly showed his I uncommitted ways it’s a distraction across the board.
IMO this all started in the off-season due to the super max contract extension. The group wanted the deal or agreement meanwhile Spurs wanted to wait and they had every right too. The SM isn’t a joke and isn’t something you cave into especially since there’s been “issues” with The Group that was reported by Michael C Wright...
So Kawhi pulled a Leveon Bell and decided I’m not playing or risking myself without the SM...and the war began. PATFO still somewhat believed in Kawhi the person but just not his posse intentions..they tried to give him the benefit of doubt etc but he took the side of his group.
The “trust” as reported was ultimately broken and something had to be done...Spurs could’ve made things really ugly but felt it would’nt be best for both parties and did what they could.
I also believe Kawhi never liked being in SA. Even though I’m sure he appreciates the development and the winning he experienced his money and brand was on his mind...he just couldn’t do anything due to the presence of Duncan and “culture” being around. Like he told Ramona Shelburne he knew he’d never get the benefit of the doubt due to Spurs reputation and him being an up and comer.
Spurs always showed their all in commitment to him...they halted when they sensed and realized he wasn’t as committed and unlike The Big 3 it was more about him and not the franchise..
The franchise showed mire loyalty to Manu and Parker by pressuring Kawhi to play while injured, and insinuating he is faking it.... Also showed more loyalty to LMA who demanded a trade by giving him a 4 year extension before he barely played any games into the season... And let's not talk about getting rid of dedmon and Simmons, while throwing money at the dead weights Gasol and mills... I'd be PISSED too... If us fans were mad about it, imagine the guy that has to carry them... All while LMA pouts on court and in the locker room
Mikeanaro
12-13-2018, 07:37 PM
Kawhi wasn't an alpha in 2017? The revisionist history on here is crazy... Soon ppl will say Kawhi was the worst player on the roster
Alpha what?
Spurs won an important game vs the Rockets without him.
Alphas dont go out like bitches after that Pachulia step on.
Alphas play full seasons.
Alphas average more than 25.5 points in a season, try above 30.
Alphas play more than 33 minutes, what kind of team succeeds with the main guy eating bench so much, they must be stacked to make it work.
Alphas are not mutes, they scream loud to their team mates to let them know who is in charge.
Alphas dont have an uncle telling them when to take a shit.
Dude please stop with the Kiwi ass kissing, he is not here anymore.
duncan2k5
12-13-2018, 07:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ojz2EwUJ-A
Cowherd went in on Kawhi:lol
This makes no sense... So defense doesn't matter now according to cowherd? Lmfao... And the reason why analytics are trash? Kawhi only made the Spurs 1 point better when he was off the court? Tell that to the warriors... We went from up 25 to losing in a quarter and a half...
KGB POP
12-13-2018, 07:43 PM
The franchise showed mire loyalty to Manu and Parker by pressuring Kawhi to play while injured, and insinuating he is faking it.... Also showed more loyalty to LMA who demanded a trade by giving him a 4 year extension before he barely played any games into the season... And let's not talk about getting rid of dedmon and Simmons, while throwing money at the dead weights Gasol and mills... I'd be PISSED too... If us fans were mad about it, imagine the guy that has to carry them... All while LMA pouts on court and in the locker room
LOLOL!!! The Spurs cleared him to play-he refused to play. How can you claim to be a Spurs fan if you believe they would clear their franchise player if they thought he was injured?
All the Spurs have is their rep-they are not going to clear their franchise player if they think he can't play. Kawhi was under contract, was cleared to play, but refused to. This isn't that complicated. You are either a troll or dumb as a brick.
apalisoc_9
12-13-2018, 07:44 PM
TD and Kawhi made pop. I stand with that.
My change of tune with him has more to do with how his managment is killing his small chance of legacy and I firmly believe he is naive and actually believe his managment every word.
First starters, he has lost 100 million for pulling a a fake injury. A medical holdout. He gets traded to Toronto and he sits down back to backs because his managment says so..ironiclly thw same managment that caused him 100 million dollars.
He has a chance to tell a story this season but instead insults the very definition of Competition.
He is out there playing enough to get a max contract but not enough to care about winnning.
I don't cheer for big dummies. Maybe Ill warm up to him again but in the same way I warm up to challenged individuals. Ie retards.
apalisoc_9
12-13-2018, 07:45 PM
LOLOL!!! The Spurs cleared him to play-he refused to play. How can you claim to be a Spurs fan if you believe they would clear their franchise player if they thought he was injured?
All the Spurs have is their rep-they are not going to clear their franchise player if they think he can't play. Kawhi was under contract, was cleared to play, but refused to. This isn't that complicated. You are either a troll or dumb as a brick.
Coach Nurse a couple times have to retract his words because he believes he was healthy and should play back to backs. Now its all about having an "open mind".
TDMVPDPOY
12-13-2018, 08:04 PM
SAYING kawhi is protected in toronto for taking games off... lol his in control atm, toronto is just kowtowing to his demands since his on a 1yr rental.....
as for the media now calling him out, in other words the PR narrative team is in action to stir the pot to get him change his mind faster to LA...
Mikeanaro
12-13-2018, 08:11 PM
that's your opinion, just that, which is actually irrelevant to the issue raised, here you are showing only a clear hate against Westbrook., so whatever
like Lamarcus Aldridge without Kawhi Leonard
they were the best defense in the league before Andre Roberson got injured, regardless, how could this be the fault of a single player?
ps: I did not really check, so I'm acting here like you're telling the truth.
yes,no doubt, he is not a superstar.
yes, in the best series of cp3's carrer, they had the advantage of playing at home and the series was decided on a ball with 0:07 in the clock in a game 7, in the next round they to be defeated by Josh Smith
ps: cp3 of this series was clearly not the current cp3, so I did not understand this reference
not really since the PG13 actually made the final of the conference as the first offensive option and was clearly the best player on his team
taking into account your comments on "achievements", I still do not understand Wall and Lavine (lmao) in your list
If we get to the opinions part being irrelevant, I talked about stats too and ball movement, and results.
So who the fuck cares about love or hate? why you go there?
We havent seen Kawhi Leonard in this season Phoenix Suns yet, so we dont know if he can take them to the Finals either, whats your point?
Girlie George had WB, Carmelo, Adams, Robertson just to lose against Utah, not Rockets or GSW, fucking UTAH.
Also funny you name LMA without Leonard because they played against the Warriors again, were you expecting Spurs to take them down?
They won a game without Leonard, that time he went down it was a sweep.
Nice try to spin things, specially for a ¨Spurs¨ fan... forgetting it was a season plagued with injuries, Gay, Gasol, Parker, Aldridge.
Dude if you want to have a conversation please check things, OKC was a disaster defense my ass, you wont be the best defense team because of one player, are you serious?
Blake is a superstar.
Dude, they beat Spurs fair and square, it was only 3 seasons ago, its the same fat old and injured CP3, so dont try to evade.
And PG13 missed the important shots, was actually close in ´13 to beat the Heat, and in ´14 they imploded it was a joke...
The ACHIEVEMENTS are your measuring stick, do you keep track of what you say?
Wall has been the face of the Wizards for a while (nobody is kicking him out of town) and Lavine is a newcomer, just like people like PG went away from that status long time ago.
dbreiden83080
12-13-2018, 08:24 PM
Just keeps sitting out big games. He will play in about 55 games maybe by years end. Already sat out 8 of the first 30.. Spurs dodged a bullet with him bailing. His health will only get worse in the next 3 years..
bic50
12-13-2018, 08:31 PM
I know I said giannis will win mvp. but watching what lebron is doing with the lakers I think he's deserving
r0drig0lac
12-13-2018, 08:31 PM
reply
- so you say that PG is a beta because want to play with Westbrook and act like it makes sense
- you did not talk about being a favorite or not, you talk about falling in the first round (which was also what happened when Aldridge had no other star by his side)
- yes, Andre Roberson was the difference between okc being a good defense and an elite defense (he was the leader in defensive stats before the injury and clearly favorite to the dpoy award
- no, blake is not a superstar (although he is clearly a star) and no one in the world thinks otherwise
- I not "try to evade", cp3 2018-19 is not the same cp3 of 2015 playoffs, this is just a fact (again, no one in the world thinks otherwise)
- PG13 made the conference finals in 2013 as the first option (this is the fact here), you can try to minimize talking about the flaws, but you probably will not say that ALL listed players, including those who are clearly better than him (and Derozan and Blake for example, are not) have or will have.
-Is Wall's achievement being the "face of the Wizards franchise"? Lavine's achievements are 2x sdc champion and one of the worst defenders of the league in his position? again, the type thing you're using to respond does not really help your arguments
bic50
12-13-2018, 08:33 PM
Just keeps sitting out big games. He will play in about 55 games maybe by years end. Already sat out 8 of the first 30.. Spurs dodged a bullet with him bailing. His health will only get worse in the next 3 years..
Doubt it
daslicer
12-13-2018, 08:43 PM
TD and Kawhi made pop. I stand with that.
My change of tune with him has more to do with how his managment is killing his small chance of legacy and I firmly believe he is naive and actually believe his managment every word.
First starters, he has lost 100 million for pulling a a fake injury. A medical holdout. He gets traded to Toronto and he sits down back to backs because his managment says so..ironiclly thw same managment that caused him 100 million dollars.
He has a chance to tell a story this season but instead insults the very definition of Competition.
He is out there playing enough to get a max contract but not enough to care about winnning.
I don't cheer for big dummies. Maybe Ill warm up to him again but in the same way I warm up to challenged individuals. Ie retards.
Will you jump back on the #2 bandwagon if he goes to the Clippers and forms a super team that is capable of winning a title?
bic50
12-13-2018, 08:54 PM
Will you jump back on the #2 bandwagon if he goes to the Clippers and forms a super team that is capable of winning a title?
By then fans would have gotten over it
Mikeanaro
12-13-2018, 09:06 PM
- so you say that PG is a beta because want to play with Westbrook and act like it makes sense
- you did not talk about being a favorite or not, you talk about falling in the first round (which was also what happened when Aldridge had no other star by his side)
- yes, Andre Roberson was the difference between okc being a good defense and an elite defense (he was the leader in defensive stats before the injury and clearly favorite to the dpoy award
- no, blake is not a superstar (although he is clearly a star) and no one in the world thinks otherwise
- I not "try to evade", cp3 2018-19 is not the same cp3 of 2015 playoffs, this is just a fact (again, no one in the world thinks otherwise)
- PG13 made the conference finals in 2013 as the first option (this is the fact here), you can try to minimize talking about the flaws, but you probably will not say that ALL listed players, including those who are clearly better than him (and Derozan and Blake for example, are not) have or will have.
-Is Wall's achievement being the "face of the Wizards franchise"? Lavine's achievements are 2x sdc champion and one of the worst defenders of the league in his position? again, the type thing you're using to respond does not really help your arguments
No fucking idiot.
The Warriors are not Utah, fucking small dick idiot.
You dont have facts, just nonsense.
Got bored, someone who doesnt check reality before typing deserves a hairy dick in the ass.
r0drig0lac
12-13-2018, 09:18 PM
No fucking idiot.
The Warriors are not Utah, fucking small dick idiot.
You dont have facts, just nonsense.
Got bored, someone who doesnt check reality before typing deserves a hairy dick in the ass.
smart answer, just facts
ElNono
12-13-2018, 10:15 PM
fuck this bitch, move this shit to the NBA forum...
Spursfans embracing cuckery need to pick a lane, tbh...
Dancelot
12-13-2018, 10:30 PM
LOLOL!!! The Spurs cleared him to play-he refused to play. How can you claim to be a Spurs fan if you believe they would clear their franchise player if they thought he was injured?
All the Spurs have is their rep-they are not going to clear their franchise player if they think he can't play. Kawhi was under contract, was cleared to play, but refused to. This isn't that complicated. You are either a troll or dumb as a brick.
This. And good first post calling this dude out.
Genovaswitness
12-13-2018, 10:50 PM
Why would they want to keep him? I thought he was a cancer and everyone could see it?
the perfect non-75 IQ, non-puppet non-retard/autist kawhi we thought he was with us is the one the raptors hope they have. clippers will have fun with this einstein soon enough
hater
12-13-2018, 10:52 PM
:lmao Mute Cancer getting his shit pushed in by medias :lol
Harry Callahan
12-13-2018, 11:28 PM
"I believe, I believe, I believe"... So basically u don't know shot and are going off assumptions that are affected by hurt feelings... Noted
Do you know for sure what the deal is a**wipe? NO. The guy cannot or will not stay on the court consistently. Do you disagree with that Mr. Apologist?
Harry Callahan
12-13-2018, 11:31 PM
LOLOL!!! The Spurs cleared him to play-he refused to play. How can you claim to be a Spurs fan if you believe they would clear their franchise player if they thought he was injured?
All the Spurs have is their rep-they are not going to clear their franchise player if they think he can't play. Kawhi was under contract, was cleared to play, but refused to. This isn't that complicated. You are either a troll or dumb as a brick.
I go with troll AND dumb as a brick for the 2k.
MoSpur02
12-13-2018, 11:45 PM
fuck this bitch, move this shit to the NBA forum...
Spursfans embracing cuckery need to pick a lane, tbh...
This
apalisoc_9
12-14-2018, 02:47 AM
This
Meh.
Should be a good thread when the spurs embarass his resting ass.
What a total moron. Glad he's getting clowned by media. He deserves it. If not for what he did in San Antonio but at the very least the very obvious use of Toronto.
Fuckhead is clearly trying just up his stats without zero care about winning.
At this point he should be getting killled for his rest days because we know he wont be doing any of these rest days in non contract year.
The moron is playing 38mpg.
RC_Drunkford
12-14-2018, 02:55 AM
I bet he will sit out that game in San Antonio too
apalisoc_9
12-14-2018, 02:59 AM
I bet he will sit out that game in San Antonio too
Wouldnt surprise me but its unlikely unless its a back to back. His camp MO is pretty obvious. Play as little as possible but enough to get in as a third teamer all-nba to be eligible for max.
It shows that kawhi was never really a player that wanted to be great. I dont think youll waste two years of your career if you were.
Hes got all-time great level talent with the competitivness of Nazr Mohammad.
RC_Drunkford
12-14-2018, 03:03 AM
Wouldnt surprise me but its unlikely unless its a back to back. His camp MO is pretty obvious. Play as little as possible but enough to get in as a third teamer all-nba to be eligible for max.
It shows that kawhi was never really a player that wanted to be great. I dont think youll waste two years of your career if you were. Hes got all-time great level talent with the competitivness of Nazr Mohammad.
Yeah, although I think it's mainly his team/family. But he still deserves the blame for not manning up and being controlled by his uncle. If it was all about winning rings to him, he would change his representatives
monty4329
12-14-2018, 05:44 AM
I know I said giannis will win mvp. but watching what lebron is doing with the lakers I think he's deserving
Of course he is. Look at where the Cavs are. He is the MVP every year, actually. He is also the best player, period. But certainly, certainly, the most VALUABLE player for his team (which is a bit different). Wherever he goes, the team is an immediate contender.
And I don't like the guy at all. But he is a monster.
duncan2k5
12-14-2018, 06:06 AM
Meh.
Should be a good thread when the spurs embarass his resting ass.
What a total moron. Glad he's getting clowned by media. He deserves it. If not for what he did in San Antonio but at the very least the very obvious use of Toronto.
Fuckhead is clearly trying just up his stats without zero care about winning.
At this point he should be getting killled for his rest days because we know he wont be doing any of these rest days in non contract year.
The moron is playing 38mpg.
Up his states? He is shooting less shots than when he played for us
duncan2k5
12-14-2018, 06:07 AM
Wouldnt surprise me but its unlikely unless its a back to back. His camp MO is pretty obvious. Play as little as possible but enough to get in as a third teamer all-nba to be eligible for max.
It shows that kawhi was never really a player that wanted to be great. I dont think youll waste two years of your career if you were.
Hes got all-time great level talent with the competitivness of Nazr Mohammad.
What's the second year he "wasted? "
duncan2k5
12-14-2018, 06:09 AM
Alpha what?
Spurs won an important game vs the Rockets without him.
Alphas dont go out like bitches after that Pachulia step on.
Alphas play full seasons.
Alphas average more than 25.5 points in a season, try above 30.
Alphas play more than 33 minutes, what kind of team succeeds with the main guy eating bench so much, they must be stacked to make it work.
Alphas are not mutes, they scream loud to their team mates to let them know who is in charge.
Alphas dont have an uncle telling them when to take a shit.
Dude please stop with the Kiwi ass kissing, he is not here anymore.
I guess Duncan isn't an alpha either since he missed playoff games due to injury
duncan2k5
12-14-2018, 06:13 AM
LOLOL!!! The Spurs cleared him to play-he refused to play. How can you claim to be a Spurs fan if you believe they would clear their franchise player if they thought he was injured?
All the Spurs have is their rep-they are not going to clear their franchise player if they think he can't play. Kawhi was under contract, was cleared to play, but refused to. This isn't that complicated. You are either a troll or dumb as a brick.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/01/17/spurs-shut-down-star-kawhi-leonard-for-indefinite-period-of-time/
Spurs shut him down... He didn't refuse to play... Or else he wouldn't have even played those 9 games... And the Spurs do a lot of things differently now than in the past... In the past they were loyal to the big 3, so cared about their health and future...their feelings... To the point where anyone that disrespecs the big three gets shipped out... That loyalty is what caused them to have blinders and want to have Kawhi out there even though he is hurting because they want to send out Manu and Parker in a blaze of glory after looking promising the year before... Pop encouraged an environment where his old players were throwing shade in the media at their superstar... No one would want to stay after that
YGWHI
12-14-2018, 06:26 AM
It is bad because that would expose his intentions all along, which have always been moving to LA. He and his uncle put on a circus to try and make it seem like the reason they left San Antonio is because the Spurs fucked up, but the reality is that they always wanted to move to LA and there was nothing the Spurs could do to prevent that.
Not really. I told you that one of the reasons he wouldn't sign with Raptors is because he has to live without his girl and daughter in Toronto.
But he didn't have this issue in previous years in San Antonio since his girl already moved to SA in 2016 and stayed until this last offseason.
Ginobilly
12-14-2018, 06:47 AM
Not really. I told you that one of the reasons he wouldn't sign with Raptors is because he has to live without his girl and daughter in Toronto.
But he didn't have this issue in previous years in San Antonio since his girl already moved to SA in 2016 and stayed until this last offseason.
Poor kawhi. He doesn't have enough money to move in his girlfriend with him in cold Toronto. He has to wait until he secures a max contract with the Clippers in order to afford a house in expensive so cal.:depressed:cry some people really have it hard in life.
YGWHI
12-14-2018, 06:52 AM
Kawhi is a league cancer.
His influence is already apparent with Fultz and Butler.
Still, his managment has complete control over him.
He is aa child in a mans body. Cant think for himself. Cant make decisions for himself.
What an ignorant person.
Fultz? He didn't choose to sit...Sixers already misdiagnosed his injury. They didn't even know he has THORACIC OULET SYNDROME
Kawhi? He didn't choose to sit last two games...He already had a legit hip injury. A very worrisome injury.
He fell so hard to the floor in the last minutes vs Bucks which you would know if you watch games. But since you never do...
Now, Raptors' coaching staff are very worried about it in long-term. Of course he will play again in this season but doctors know that the least thing Kawhi needed was a hip injury that forced his quad to compensate/balance
You wished him he break a leg...well, your dream came true.
YGWHI
12-14-2018, 07:04 AM
Poor kawhi. He doesn't have enough money to move in his girlfriend with him in cold Toronto.
It's not about money.
Be honest. Would you move to Canada????? I wouldn't.
I mean, there are plenty of great/beautiful cities Toronto Montreal Vancouver and people are really really nice but it's a f... different country. If I would have kids I wouldn't want them to grow up in other country.
YGWHI
12-14-2018, 07:38 AM
:lmao Mute Cancer getting his shit pushed in by medias :lol
Not really.
If this is for Colin..The same guy who said "the Spus are irrelevant"? "Tim Duncan was great but not a superstar" "Tim Duncan was never at any point of his career the best player"?
What's about this?
753060497914597376
"but but media says Kawhi's a pile of steaming hot garbage..." Colin and Skip? Since when we care about these two media trolls? Some fans here are really in desperate mode trying to bash Kawhi for nothing.
SALTINESS is bad for you and your health, old SA men. :D
Kapeci88
12-14-2018, 11:21 AM
If Morey had offered James Harden for Kawhi Leonard during the "kawhightmare", would you have been ok with that deal
do you think POP would get the best out of Harden, it seems as thought POP and Harden have a great relationship whenever the spurs and rockets play
RC_Drunkford
12-14-2018, 11:58 AM
this guy won't even high five his team mates :lmao look at Greg Monroe at 1:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mofbmRdP4k
Brazil
12-14-2018, 12:05 PM
Dumbass.
He doesnt care. His camp doesnt want him in Toronto. They want him to play as little as possible. Its sad, because he could be gunning for MVP but kawhi is a being a literal asswipe. I believe he is deficient mentaly. Hes clearly being used and hes fine with it.
The Goal now for him is Stats, and health.
I feel bad for the raptors, but I dont. I cant feel bad for fans who think its OK for a star to sitnout games so he can "rest" for the playoffs. Its not ok.
I'm off the kawhi bandwagon. Hope he breaks his legs and never plays a single minute ever again.
One lf the most cancerous NBA personalities to date. We're already seeing his influence with butler and Fultz too.
:wow
my nigg'
Ginobilly
12-14-2018, 01:32 PM
It's not about money.
Be honest. Would you move to Canada????? I wouldn't.
I mean, there are plenty of great/beautiful cities Toronto Montreal Vancouver and people are really really nice but it's a f... different country. If I would have kids I wouldn't want them to grow up in other country.
You make it sound like Canada is some ghetto 3rd world country. I would move anywhere if they are paying me an $100 million dollar contract. Im a south texas mex nig, but money talks. I would move to Antarctica to play bball if I was offered the money nba players make.
Kawhi could always move back to cali in the off season and even buy half of Compton when he retires. Today's athletes are spoiled as f...
bklynspursfan
12-14-2018, 01:56 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/01/17/spurs-shut-down-star-kawhi-leonard-for-indefinite-period-of-time/
Spurs shut him down... He didn't refuse to play... Or else he wouldn't have even played those 9 games... And the Spurs do a lot of things differently now than in the past... In the past they were loyal to the big 3, so cared about their health and future...their feelings... To the point where anyone that disrespecs the big three gets shipped out... That loyalty is what caused them to have blinders and want to have Kawhi out there even though he is hurting because they want to send out Manu and Parker in a blaze of glory after looking promising the year before... Pop encouraged an environment where his old players were throwing shade in the media at their superstar... No one would want to stay after that
He didn't want to stay before that :rolleyes. Are you the only 1 who refuses to believe his camps mind was made up that summer for him to want out?
buttsR4rebounding
12-14-2018, 02:16 PM
Toronto is the most heavily taxed NBA city. Canada has a surtax that kicks in well under a million dollars Canadian that means for the games played in Canada the income gets taxed at over 60%.
SpurPadre
12-14-2018, 02:27 PM
this guy won't even high five his team mates :lmao look at Greg Monroe at 1:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mofbmRdP4k
What a piece of shit, tbh.
RD2191
12-14-2018, 04:25 PM
What a piece of shit, tbh.
I didn't see anything but Kawhi hitting clutch shots?
Hoops Czar
12-14-2018, 05:08 PM
I didn't see anything but Kawhi hitting clutch shots?
I think he posted the wrong video.
loveforthegame
12-14-2018, 05:58 PM
this guy won't even high five his team mates :lmao look at Greg Monroe at 1:42.
How about pausing it at 1:45 and you can see he taps him on the chest instead.
Mikeanaro
12-14-2018, 08:45 PM
I guess Duncan isn't an alpha either since he missed playoff games due to injury
Maybe you have problems with what an alpha is in the first place, before using straw man shit please look for the concept.
Duncan= GOAT PF alpha and leader
Kawhi= Retarded SF, mute, needs his uncle to take a shit, not a leader and cant even be on the bench every 2 games because if he is not playing there is no need to support your team mates.
weebo
12-14-2018, 09:41 PM
I guess Duncan isn't an alpha either since he missed playoff games due to injury
Bro stfu already---and take TD off your profile pic--you defend a scoundrel who is the antithesis TD as a man and a baller
Realdeal1
12-14-2018, 09:58 PM
Why are kawhi groupies still on this board? Why not join a raptors board?
skin27
12-14-2018, 10:31 PM
Looks like the raptors won’t give us a favor of beating the blazers
timvp
12-14-2018, 10:52 PM
Damn, Nephew looks terrible tonight. Slow and can hardly move. Stripped by Seth Curry on one end and attacked by Nik Stauskas on the other. Looks like he came back too soon from injury. Maybe he'll loosen up but pretty ugly so far, tbh.
skin27
12-14-2018, 10:57 PM
Damn, Nephew looks terrible tonight. Slow and can hardly move. Stripped by Seth Curry on one end and attacked by Nik Stauskas on the other. Looks like he came back too soon from injury. Maybe he'll loosen up but pretty ugly so far, tbh.
He’s not injured..tbh
HarlemHeat37
12-14-2018, 11:00 PM
Damn, Nephew looks terrible tonight. Slow and can hardly move. Stripped by Seth Curry on one end and attacked by Nik Stauskas on the other. Looks like he came back too soon from injury. Maybe he'll loosen up but pretty ugly so far, tbh.
He looks terrible every time he returns from any type of layoff, even as little as 2 games..not sure if I've ever seen anything like it from a superstar..
It's especially harmful because he's a terrible facilitator and doesn't make teammates better, so he has to be a dominant scorer/defender to reach his max impact..
Maybe he'll loosen up in the 2nd half, we'll see..
timvp
12-14-2018, 11:02 PM
Raptors franchise SF went down hard but looks like Siakam will be okay :tu
timvp
12-14-2018, 11:05 PM
He looks terrible every time he returns from any type of layoff, even as little as 2 games..not sure if I've ever seen anything like it from a superstar..
It's especially harmful because he's a terrible facilitator and doesn't make teammates better, so he has to be a dominant scorer/defender to reach his max impact..
Maybe he'll loosen up in the 2nd half, we'll see..
Kawhiso offense minus Lowry is pretty ugly, tbh.
My prediction (which no one seems to have mentioned or even considered) --
Kawhi may be forced to opt in to a final year with Toronto if his production tails off or injury concerns resurface or if he is simply perceived as too risky for a long-term max.
timvp
12-14-2018, 11:40 PM
Nephew still limping around but playing better in second half. Blazers look primed to choke this off.
Green keeping Raptors in the game with his shooting
skin27
12-14-2018, 11:57 PM
Fuck!!the blazers gonna win,
skin27
12-14-2018, 11:58 PM
Raptors beat the warriors with no kawhi and now they’re losing to the blazers with kawhi..LoL
timvp
12-15-2018, 12:04 AM
Danny Green is a got damn beast. Miss that guy, tbh.
duncan2k5
12-15-2018, 12:11 AM
Raptors beat the warriors with no kawhi and now they’re losing to the blazers with kawhi..LoL
Why is that surprising? Kawhi is jew to the team... They barely played together... So they don't have chemistry... Lowry has chemistry because he played there forever... If u jeed proof of Kawhi's importance to a team, look at game 1 WCF... The same series LMA shriveled up in
timvp
12-15-2018, 12:13 AM
Even on one leg, Nephew is so good :depressed
Fusternino
12-15-2018, 12:16 AM
Kawhi and Ibaka . . . LOL!
Fusternino
12-15-2018, 12:18 AM
Ibaka just choked away the game.
skin27
12-15-2018, 12:20 AM
Lol warriors won’t give us a favor too..
Hoops Czar
12-15-2018, 12:21 AM
Danny Green is a got damn beast. Miss that guy, tbh.
Spurs weren't getting that version of Danny Green, at least not since 2015.
skin27
12-15-2018, 12:24 AM
Why is that surprising? Kawhi is jew to the team... They barely played together... So they don't have chemistry... Lowry has chemistry because he played there forever... If u jeed proof of Kawhi's importance to a team, look at game 1 WCF... The same series LMA shriveled up in
what a lame excuse
Collins21
12-15-2018, 12:31 AM
OK but if we're playing the game of people choking maybe we wouldn't never went after LA in the first place if Kawhi didn't get sodomized by Matt Barnes.
SpurPadre
12-15-2018, 02:54 AM
Why is that surprising? Kawhi is jew to the team... They barely played together... So they don't have chemistry... Lowry has chemistry because he played there forever... If u jeed proof of Kawhi's importance to a team, look at game 1 WCF... The same series LMA shriveled up in
You know how you develop chemistry? You play every fucking game or at least get off your bitch ass and sit on the bench to watch your team play when you get a phantom injury.
Spurtacular
12-15-2018, 04:07 AM
Just wondering if anyone thinks Kawhi would've pulled that nonsense last year if Tim Duncan had still been playing?
SpurPadre
12-15-2018, 04:15 AM
Just wondering if anyone thinks Kawhi would've pulled that nonsense last year if Tim Duncan had still been playing?
Yes. Stevie Jax pulled some nonsense with TD around but it was Pop that gave him the boot. If Manu and TP couldn't set that fake ass bitch straight, then nobody could, tbh.
Spurtacular
12-15-2018, 04:22 AM
Yes. Stevie Jax pulled some nonsense with TD around but it was Pop that gave him the boot. If Manu and TP couldn't set that fake ass bitch straight, then nobody could, tbh.
LDN didn't give a sh** about Porker what Porker had to say; you think the franchise player would somehow care? :lol
TheGreatYacht
12-15-2018, 04:24 AM
Lol Jimmertacular thread ended on the first comment.
Spurtacular
12-15-2018, 06:16 AM
I like dicks up the ass.
Yea, you do. :lol
vander
12-15-2018, 07:58 AM
wow he played 38 minutes, that can't be good for the ol' tendinopathy
cool cat
12-15-2018, 05:27 PM
Glad we don't have to be part of this circus anymore.
Kawhi Leonard still focused on Los Angeles, which is bad news for Celtics' rival Raptors
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/kawhi-leonard-still-focused-los-201746175.html
Kawhi Leonard still focused on Los Angeles, which is bad news for Celtics' rival Raptors originally appeared on nbcsportsboston.com
This doesn't look good for the Raptors.
According to Adrian Wojnarowski, Kawhi Leonard, a free agent at the end of this season, is still focused on playing in Los Angeles. Whether it's for the Clippers or the Lakers, Leonard has not changed his desire for the west coast after starting the season 23-8 with the Raptors.
Leonard requested a trade to one of the two LA teams this summer from the San Antonio Spurs, but was sent to the Raptors with Danny Green instead.
They can't change the geography. They can't change the weather in Toronto. Those were always be things against them in this.
Woj also said, "Home and LA has been the focus for Kawhi Leonard through all of this."
According to RealGM, the Clippers have been sending Lawrence Frank, their president of basketball operations, to Raptors game in an attempt to recruit Leonard.
If Leonard truly is a one-and-done with the Raptors, this year, it makes the Eastern Conference much easier to get through for the Celtics. Boston is arguably the better team, but if you can avoid Kawhi in the playoffs. you'll take it.
HarlemHeat37
12-15-2018, 05:32 PM
Not exactly breaking news..
Everybody here knows that there's little chance of re-signing him if the Raptors don't reach the Finals..even if they do, it's still a toss-up with the Clippers..
TD 21
12-15-2018, 05:46 PM
I don't know that reaching the Finals makes a difference, considering his group supposedly told the Raptors the night the trade was being finalized, something to the effect of, even if that happens, he's still leaving. They were also supposedly contacting other upcoming free agent stars about aligning, if not in L.A., possibly Brooklyn.
He's probably been brainwashed into thinking he's prime Jordan, O'Neal, Duncan, James, etc. and is a contender unto himself.
Granted, the Raptors future is overrated. Lowry is teetering on the cliff now and obviously isn't a long term "Robin", none of their young talent projects as that (Siakam is more of a complimentary star) and neither them or him is a draw to other star free agents. Maybe Anunoby + Van Vleet becomes the base of a trade for the next disgruntled star out West (since stars are usually shipped opposite conference), but that's mere speculation.
Mikeanaro
12-15-2018, 06:07 PM
Not exactly breaking news..
Everybody here knows that there's little chance of re-signing him if the Raptors don't reach the Finals..even if they do, it's still a toss-up with the Clippers..
Even if they win the championship I would say, Uncle has LA dreams.
HarlemHeat37
12-15-2018, 06:10 PM
^^He's definitely leaving if they win the title, there wouldn't be any backlash if he brought the Raptors a championship..
It's evident that Kawhi doesn't give a fuck about what anybody outside of his people thinks, though:lol he's the anti-Durant..
daslicer
12-15-2018, 06:16 PM
I don't know that reaching the Finals makes a difference, considering his group supposedly told the Raptors the night the trade was being finalized, something to the effect of, even if that happens, he's still leaving. They were also supposedly contacting other upcoming free agent stars about aligning, if not in L.A., possibly Brooklyn.
He's probably been brainwashed into thinking he's prime Jordan, O'Neal, Duncan, James, etc. and is a contender unto himself.
Granted, the Raptors future is overrated. Lowry is teetering on the cliff now and obviously isn't a long term "Robin", none of their young talent projects as that (Siakam is more of a complimentary star) and neither them or him is a draw to other star free agents. Maybe Anunoby + Van Vleet becomes the base of a trade for the next disgruntled star out West (since stars are usually shipped opposite conference), but that's mere speculation.
I have said before that #2 is the most spoiled NBA player in history. Even more spoiled than Kobe since he's always gotten to play on an elite team since day 1 that was stacked with talent. Due to always being on great teams #2 believes he can win anywhere despite the talent that is around him.
tesseractive
12-15-2018, 06:50 PM
I have said before that #2 is the most spoiled NBA player in history. Even more spoiled than Kobe since he's always gotten to play on an elite team since day 1 that was stacked with talent. Due to always being on great teams #2 believes he can win anywhere despite the talent that is around him.
I'm looking forward to the reality check when he plays for the Clippers.
apalisoc_9
12-15-2018, 06:54 PM
Glad we don't have to be part of this circus anymore.
Kawhi Leonard still focused on Los Angeles, which is bad news for Celtics' rival Raptors
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/kawhi-leonard-still-focused-los-201746175.html
Kawhi Leonard still focused on Los Angeles, which is bad news for Celtics' rival Raptors originally appeared on nbcsportsboston.com
This doesn't look good for the Raptors.
According to Adrian Wojnarowski, Kawhi Leonard, a free agent at the end of this season, is still focused on playing in Los Angeles. Whether it's for the Clippers or the Lakers, Leonard has not changed his desire for the west coast after starting the season 23-8 with the Raptors.
Leonard requested a trade to one of the two LA teams this summer from the San Antonio Spurs, but was sent to the Raptors with Danny Green instead.
They can't change the geography. They can't change the weather in Toronto. Those were always be things against them in this.
Woj also said, "Home and LA has been the focus for Kawhi Leonard through all of this."
According to RealGM, the Clippers have been sending Lawrence Frank, their president of basketball operations, to Raptors game in an attempt to recruit Leonard.
If Leonard truly is a one-and-done with the Raptors, this year, it makes the Eastern Conference much easier to get through for the Celtics. Boston is arguably the better team, but if you can avoid Kawhi in the playoffs. you'll take it.
This is not news. The guy is sitting out games and playing 40mpg in nom back to backs.
Hopefully durant cucks him and signs with the Clippers.
He's dealing with very bad managment and his group is WOAT
BillMc
12-15-2018, 06:57 PM
^^He's definitely leaving if they win the title, there wouldn't be any backlash if he brought the Raptors a championship..
It's evident that Kawhi doesn't give a fuck about what anybody outside of his people thinks, though:lol he's the anti-Durant..
This
TDomination
12-15-2018, 07:01 PM
I'm looking forward to the reality check when he plays for the Clippers.
Until Kevin Durant ends up joining him and I'm sure others will end up following.
I hope not but I can see it happening. Would make sense for 2 of the most diva players to join together. Though complete opposites. One cares about what everyone thinks and the other cares absolutely nothing about what ANYONE thinks outside his family.
apalisoc_9
12-15-2018, 07:02 PM
I don't know that reaching the Finals makes a difference, considering his group supposedly told the Raptors the night the trade was being finalized, something to the effect of, even if that happens, he's still leaving. They were also supposedly contacting other upcoming free agent stars about aligning, if not in L.A., possibly Brooklyn.
He's probably been brainwashed into thinking he's prime Jordan, O'Neal, Duncan, James, etc. and is a contender unto himself.
Granted, the Raptors future is overrated. Lowry is teetering on the cliff now and obviously isn't a long term "Robin", none of their young talent projects as that (Siakam is more of a complimentary star) and neither them or him is a draw to other star free agents. Maybe Anunoby + Van Vleet becomes the base of a trade for the next disgruntled star out West (since stars are usually shipped opposite conference), but that's mere speculation.
He has the WOAT mamagment. Even if they convinced him hes Jordan level. Why are they wasting his two years. Both in his prime.
His camp obviously convinced him to sit out back to back which ruins his rhytem and destroys any possibility of building an actual legacy. He would be the clear cut MVP right now if hes playing these games.
I would think any individual with an average IQ would be able to tell that his camp has lost him significant money and cpst him an MVP thos year ( he doesnt deserve it but he would win it if he didnt sit out games)
Its very clear kawhi is mentally deficient. I do think he is dumb ( medically speaking)
Thats the only way to explain itm
apalisoc_9
12-15-2018, 07:04 PM
Really hope the writers dont award him an All-NBA slot. He doesnt deserve it. Hes been a league wide cancer as evident with fults and butler.
TD 21
12-15-2018, 07:22 PM
Can't see egos as gargantuan as Durant and Leonard, with as much overlap (even if it is of the positive variety) as they have, no prior relationship and one making disparaging comments about the other years ago, aligning.
I wonder if Durant considers the Raptors. The lack of a future sidekick or clear path to it probably costs them as much as anything, but say he takes scumbag's place; are they not Lowry maintaining prime play for another season (dicey) from having at least as good of odds as anyone? Granted, the Celtics possibly trading for Davis would change that.
But they can offer 3 things that matters to these divas: they're trendy, they have a possible shot at contention and if they do win, he'd receive the majority of the credit.
He has the WOAT mamagment. Even if they convinced him hes Jordan level. Why are they wasting his two years. Both in his prime.
His camp obviously convinced him to sit out back to back which ruins his rhytem and destroys any possibility of building an actual legacy. He would be the clear cut MVP right now if hes playing these games.
I would think any individual with an average IQ would be able to tell that his camp has lost him significant money and cpst him an MVP thos year ( he doesnt deserve it but he would win it if he didnt sit out games)
Its very clear kawhi is mentally deficient. I do think he is dumb ( medically speaking)
Thats the only way to explain itm
He wouldn't be the MVP either way. Though he's trending towards that caliber, he hasn't played at that level in totality and whether it should factor in or not, anyone with limited bias lost virtually all respect for him last season. There was always going to be at least a buffer year, similar to James in '11.
Kobe'sAchilles
12-15-2018, 08:23 PM
Must suck knowing that the guy doesn't even show up on the bench to support you and then let's his camp leak out that he is still going to LA. That's not the sucky part though, the sucky part is you have to walk on egg shells and be careful not to say anything even close to a disparaging remark about him or else your management will be all up your ass bc they mistakenly believe they have a shot at signing him.
daslicer
12-15-2018, 09:24 PM
Must suck knowing that the guy doesn't even show up on the bench to support you and then let's his camp leak out that he is still going to LA. That's not the sucky part though, the sucky part is you have to walk on egg shells and be careful not to say anything even close to a disparaging remark about him or else your management will be all up your ass bc they mistakenly believe they have a shot at signing him.
You also have to worry about the media lobbying personal attacks against you if you speak out against #2 simply because they want every excuse to use for him going to LA. We saw that happen to Parker and Manu.
Dancelot
12-15-2018, 09:44 PM
OK but if we're playing the game of people choking maybe we wouldn't never went after LA in the first place if Kawhi didn't get sodomized by Matt Barnes.
:lmao
duncan2k5
12-16-2018, 02:10 PM
You know how you develop chemistry? You play every fucking game or at least get off your bitch ass and sit on the bench to watch your team play when you get a phantom injury.
You know how to get in chemistry? Actually being healthy enough to stay on the court... U know how u get healthy? By slowly reiterating urself like pop used to do when ppl came back from major injury
gambit1990
12-16-2018, 02:37 PM
raptors @ spurs on 1/3.
apalisoc_9
12-16-2018, 09:09 PM
Man the nerve on kawhi to be shouting and scolding his teamates when hes sitting out games. Disrespectful. Hes been treating ibaka, and practiclly everyone else like they're mario chalmers heat.
Someone needs to stand up to him.
apalisoc_9
12-16-2018, 09:10 PM
I'm actually surprised no one is talking about how Leonard is praciticlly treating everyone like mario chalmers.
Kawhi_6rings
12-16-2018, 11:39 PM
Man the nerve on kawhi to be shouting and scolding his teamates when hes sitting out games. Disrespectful. Hes been treating ibaka, and practiclly everyone else like they're mario chalmers heat.
Someone needs to stand up to him.
kachoke is a locker room cancer
Kawhi_6rings
12-16-2018, 11:41 PM
I'm actually surprised no one is talking about how Leonard is praciticlly treating everyone like mario chalmers.
kachoke just a choker,who get overhyped like top 5 player,raptors play better when he absent,nuff said...........:lol
BackHome
12-17-2018, 12:29 AM
No trades we tanking get on the train :lma
Duncan87
12-17-2018, 12:32 AM
Nick Nurse raptors HC today begging Nba to give kawhi calls
Rusty
12-17-2018, 12:36 AM
Nick Nurse raptors HC today begging Nba to give kawhi calls
NBA wants Kawhi on the Clippers or Lakers. They’re using the refs to send a message to Kawhi that this is what will happen if you stay in Toronto. No superstar calls for
you, Kawhi.
Hoops Czar
12-17-2018, 01:34 AM
I'm actually surprised no one is talking about how Leonard is praciticlly treating everyone like mario chalmers.
He should until his teammates prove they could beat a somebody in the postseason.
Hoops Czar
12-17-2018, 01:35 AM
Nick Nurse raptors HC today begging Nba to give kawhi calls��
Sounds a lot like Spurstalkers pre 2017.
SpurPadre
12-17-2018, 01:42 AM
He should until his teammates prove they could beat a somebody in the postseason.
Kabitch hasn't proved he can win without The Big 3, tbh.
Hoops Czar
12-17-2018, 02:00 AM
Kabitch hasn't proved he can win without The Big 3, tbh.
... B-B-But the Spurs were up 21 against GS in game 1 of the WCF's before kawhi went down. You can't have it both ways. :lol
Kawhi_6rings
12-17-2018, 07:12 AM
... B-B-But the Spurs were up 21 against GS in game 1 of the WCF's before kawhi went down. You can't have it both ways. :lol
KACHOKE CHOKE 2 STRAIGHT GAME :lol
spursparker9
12-17-2018, 07:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcSHB374bwE
BatManu20
12-17-2018, 10:53 AM
raptors @ spurs on 1/3.
I have a feeling Kawhi doesn’t play. Prob won’t travel with the team either.
BatManu20
12-17-2018, 11:25 AM
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Dverde
12-17-2018, 11:30 AM
I have a feeling Kawhi doesn’t play. Prob won’t travel with the team either.
I strongly disagree. If Nephew could understand a calendar he would have that game circled. Pop will give the big bear hug awww shucks routine.
Budkin
12-17-2018, 01:10 PM
Trouble in Paradise?
1074686128832147456
loveforthegame
12-17-2018, 01:27 PM
Nothing to see there. Green calls Ibaka the Kawhi whisperer. Says those two probably talk the most off court together. Ibaka’s even gotten Leonard to agree to go on his cooking show.
Leonard shows leadership by explaining what Ibaka did wrong and it’s labeled trouble. Lowry does the same thing a week ago and it’s labeled leadership.
I’ve noticed Lowry, Siakim and others not sitting on the bench when injured too. Is that a new thing this year?
r0drig0lac
12-17-2018, 01:35 PM
the mute being speaking and correcting the players of his team (as he should have done in SA) is something positive
duncan2k5
12-19-2018, 11:23 AM
Nothing to see there. Green calls Ibaka the Kawhi whisperer. Says those two probably talk the most off court together. Ibaka’s even gotten Leonard to agree to go on his cooking show.
Leonard shows leadership by explaining what Ibaka did wrong and it’s labeled trouble. Lowry does the same thing a week ago and it’s labeled leadership.
I’ve noticed Lowry, Siakim and others not sitting on the bench when injured too. Is that a new thing this year?
Ppl only notice when Kawhi does it because it fits the narrative
RC_Drunkford
12-21-2018, 12:18 PM
https://twitter.com/APOOCH/status/1075897508679815168
would love to see this. Nephew leaves Toronto, stays in the East on a team that won't win anything. Perfect situation for him
Fusternino
12-21-2018, 01:00 PM
https://twitter.com/APOOCH/status/1075897508679815168
would love to see this. Nephew leaves Toronto, stays in the East on a team that won't win anything. Perfect situation for him
They're certainly in a better position than the Knicks to build a team.
exstatic
12-21-2018, 01:03 PM
https://twitter.com/APOOCH/status/1075897508679815168
would love to see this. Nephew leaves Toronto, stays in the East on a team that won't win anything. Perfect situation for him
Dolan also is dense enough that he probably doesn't realize that it's bad to pay someone with a necrotic quad.
SpurPadre
12-21-2018, 03:53 PM
Trouble in Paradise?
1074686128832147456
I read lips so this is what that POS said:
"Come on, guys! When you bumped into my arm, it really hurt! Now, I'm going to have to sit out the next two months because of that! And stop hiding my tampons from my locker! I really don't appreciate that, you guys!"
Fusternino
12-21-2018, 07:17 PM
Turning on the Cavs game to see if Blossomgame will guard Kawhi at all.
r0drig0lac
12-21-2018, 08:45 PM
Kawhi going supernova
TDMVPDPOY
12-21-2018, 09:22 PM
dat nigga :( was once a spur... :( :(
Dejounte
12-21-2018, 09:23 PM
1 assist LMAO. ISO blackhole player.
Spurs fever
12-21-2018, 09:33 PM
Did Bill Land just refer to Kawhi is the Joker????
apalisoc_9
12-21-2018, 09:35 PM
Averagung 27 now :lol
RD2191
12-21-2018, 09:45 PM
37 points on 12-16 shooting. Damn.
koriwhat
12-21-2018, 09:59 PM
37 points on 12-16 shooting. Damn.
we all knew he was this good but we all just didn't see him being such a backstabbing asshole.
Stabula
12-21-2018, 10:10 PM
How many games this year has he missed?
How many games this year has he missed?
All 33 Spurs games so far, not counting preseason.
TDMVPDPOY
12-21-2018, 10:43 PM
All 33 Spurs games so far, not counting preseason.
dis nigga
spursparker9
12-21-2018, 11:00 PM
No doubt will be in Hall of Fame. But would be funny to imagine his speech
apalisoc_9
12-21-2018, 11:25 PM
My goodness..Clearly 200% Healthy and is sitting games. Out Tomorrow against the Sixers.
When will Kawhis managment learn. Injuries are accidents and it can happen anytime.
This is so unfortunate. Hes im gear now and starting to play great ball. There is zero reason for him to sit out games specially Nationally televised games.
This is insane level of precaution. The voters need to look at this hard and not vote him in any all nba so he loses the money they desperately are looking for.
Its so ironic how they're doing all of this to help kawhi get the max contract meanwhile losing 100 million by the same managment.
Kawhi must be really dense
spurs10
12-21-2018, 11:58 PM
I read lips so this is what that POS said:
"Come on, guys! When you bumped into my arm, it really hurt! Now, I'm going to have to sit out the next two months because of that! And stop hiding my tampons from my locker! I really don't appreciate that, you guys!" Thanks for sharing...sounds like Nephew alright!
hombre
12-22-2018, 01:03 AM
I just watched his highlights from tonights 37 point game. Dude is pulling some insane shit and no one on his team gives a shit about it. No dap, no high-fives, no one yelling in his face or congratulating him. He has no buy-in or support, they just head to their next spots / assignments.
TDMVPDPOY
12-22-2018, 01:49 AM
that efficiency...has kirby the rapists ever come anything close like those efficiency numbers for a season? no
Fusternino
12-22-2018, 01:52 AM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2811938-kawhi-leonard-reportedly-pissed-kevin-durant-said-hes-a-system-player
Was this already posted?
phxspurfan
12-22-2018, 01:57 AM
My goodness..Clearly 200% Healthy and is sitting games. Out Tomorrow against the Sixers.
When will Kawhis managment learn. Injuries are accidents and it can happen anytime.
This is so unfortunate. Hes im gear now and starting to play great ball. There is zero reason for him to sit out games specially Nationally televised games.
This is insane level of precaution. The voters need to look at this hard and not vote him in any all nba so he loses the money they desperately are looking for.
Its so ironic how they're doing all of this to help kawhi get the max contract meanwhile losing 100 million by the same managment.
Kawhi must be really dense
He’s obviously afraid of getting hurt again and being labeled injury prone before his big payday contract. We know he’s injury prone, and his next nagging injury is on the way
Play Boban
12-22-2018, 01:57 AM
No doubt will be in Hall of Fame. But would be funny to imagine his speech
DNP-Personal Reasons, tbh.
phxspurfan
12-22-2018, 01:58 AM
I just watched his highlights from tonights 37 point game. Dude is pulling some insane shit and no one on his team gives a shit about it. No dap, no high-fives, no one yelling in his face or congratulating him. He has no buy-in or support, they just head to their next spots / assignments.
That team lost its heart when DeRozan got traded and their coach fired after winning CoY. And they know they’re getting played (besides their stupid front office/owner)
r0drig0lac
12-22-2018, 06:17 AM
we all knew he was this good but we all just didn't see him being such a backstabbing asshole.
cpds421
12-22-2018, 10:03 AM
37 points against a lottery team.
exstatic
12-22-2018, 11:01 AM
No doubt will be in Hall of Fame. But would be funny to imagine his speech
He won’t get the raw numbers he needs if he continues to play only 3/4 of his teams games. He’s at his physical peak age, and only has a bit over 7000 points.
duncan2k5
12-22-2018, 11:06 AM
I just watched his highlights from tonights 37 point game. Dude is pulling some insane shit and no one on his team gives a shit about it. No dap, no high-fives, no one yelling in his face or congratulating him. He has no buy-in or support, they just head to their next spots / assignments.
U should watch more games... His teammates and fans always root for him
duncan2k5
12-22-2018, 11:07 AM
That team lost its heart when DeRozan got traded and their coach fired after winning CoY. And they know they’re getting played (besides their stupid front office/owner)
They had heart? I couldn't tell
We know he’s injury prone, and his next nagging injury is on the way
AT&T-itis?
bigdickboys
12-22-2018, 12:31 PM
My goodness..Clearly 200% Healthy and is sitting games. Out Tomorrow against the Sixers.
When will Kawhis managment learn. Injuries are accidents and it can happen anytime.
This is so unfortunate. Hes im gear now and starting to play great ball. There is zero reason for him to sit out games specially Nationally televised games.
This is insane level of precaution. The voters need to look at this hard and not vote him in any all nba so he loses the money they desperately are looking for.
Its so ironic how they're doing all of this to help kawhi get the max contract meanwhile losing 100 million by the same managment.
Kawhi must be really dense
Learn how to use apostrophes you ignorant motherfucker.
bklynspursfan
12-22-2018, 12:32 PM
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Think Dennis came up with that one?
RC_Drunkford
12-22-2018, 12:39 PM
1076530428272566272
Think Dennis came up with that one?
what kind of load are they talking about?
Geo210SpursSanAnto.
12-22-2018, 02:08 PM
To many butt loads for kawitter from tio dennis?
Dverde
12-22-2018, 02:58 PM
http://exercise.trekeducation.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/07/Load-management.jpg
acoelho1
12-22-2018, 03:40 PM
It’s time to close this chapter of Spurs history including this thread.
MoSpur02
12-22-2018, 04:04 PM
It’s time to close this chapter of Spurs history including this thread.
:bobo
Robz4000
12-22-2018, 05:05 PM
:lmao load management holy fuck
DAF86
12-30-2018, 09:22 PM
How do you shoot 22 times without handing out a single assist? :lol
Fuck-Kawhi
12-30-2018, 09:38 PM
Fuck Kawhi
SpurPadre
12-30-2018, 09:44 PM
Can't wait for Thursday, tbh.
ismael-robert
12-31-2018, 12:28 AM
Why resurrect this thread! Geeze man let it die.
Geo210SpursSanAnto.
12-31-2018, 01:07 AM
I doubt bitchass kawitter shows up to the at@t center. He will most likely stay in his hotel room.
apalisoc_9
12-31-2018, 01:14 AM
How do you shoot 22 times without handing out a single assist? :lol
His teamates know hes scoring when hes handling the ball. Kawhi in a vacuum is an even better scorer than Micheal Jordan..but so is about 3-4 modern nba players.
Problem with kawhi is he makes his decisions before even making a move. Sometimes his shots, should be assists and sometimes his passess should be shots.
Also his teamates are atrocious at the three point line.
vander
12-31-2018, 01:25 AM
Why resurrect this thread! Geeze man let it die.
I like this thread to laugh at Kawhi when he struggles/loses. He quit on the Spurs, he's one of the most despicable players in the NBA, he deserves to be laughed at when possible.
what I don't understand is how there can still be posters here who rush to defend him early and often, that is just so sad. so sad
loveforthegame
12-31-2018, 01:46 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/mikefinger/status/1079206332752904192
r0drig0lac
12-31-2018, 03:59 AM
Why resurrect this thread! Geeze man let it die.
slick'81
12-31-2018, 04:18 AM
No kawhai gq pics?
Realdeal1
12-31-2018, 11:35 AM
Is kawhi really gonna play on Thursday?.. I'll be at that game .. im ready for some "Uncle Dennis" and " " "Quitter " chants
Keepin' it real
12-31-2018, 02:54 PM
Why resurrect this thread!
Thread of the year tbh...
ismael-robert
12-31-2018, 03:05 PM
He's not hearing your laughter and he's playing well enough that your laughter is meaningless...not to mention having one of the best records with him resting...yeah hes really not concerned and has moved on
ismael-robert
12-31-2018, 03:26 PM
This is a NEWS thread not back n forth meaningless banter thread. Post actual tweets of actual news: injuries, team drama, trade rumors, how far they make it in playoffs, where he winds up next year...thats really all that matters...how they do against spurs matters but thats for Thursday game thread
offset formation
12-31-2018, 04:32 PM
Fuck Kawhi
This guy gets it, and his username checks out. :tu
exstatic
12-31-2018, 05:04 PM
This is a NEWS thread not back n forth meaningless banter thread. Post actual tweets of actual news: injuries, team drama, trade rumors, how far they make it in playoffs, where he winds up next year...thats really all that matters...how they do against spurs matters but thats for Thursday game thread
Who died, and left you in charge? This thread is whatever we want it to be, and that’s mostly ‘fuck Kawhi’. If you can’t deal with the venting, don’t click on the thread.
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