***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[SpurPadre]

Even better at triggering you

lol at "triggering" millenial slang that's supposed to be "shade". Yeah, he's pissed me off, so what? You're not going to like everything in the world. Being "triggered" isn't a weakness. It's just some stupid, fake cool shit that's cool to say now.

[ZeusWillJudge]

This was the exchange:

LMA: Hey faggot, are you gonna do load management or are you actually gonna play for once?

Kawhi: I'm telling my Uncle!!!

LMA: STFU, bitch!


You really are ten pounds of crazy in a five pound bag.

[SpurPadre]

Seriously though, that LMA and Kawhi were talking is apparently not that shocking. It's a player's league and most players don't seem to have that big a problem with what Kawhi did except for a few. Even former teammates. They might have been miffed but it's mainly management and the fans who are rightfully really pissed at him.

[daslicer]

Kawhi stalker

Actually not at all. I live in Charlotte and had never attended an ASG weekend in my whole entire life. It's definitely one thing I wanted to check off of my bucket list. I got to do it since the event was literally in my backyard. The tickets for the practice were very cheap and gave me the opportunity to see a bunch of marquee players in Lebron,Durant,Curry,Giannis,Harden all up close in person. Definitely worth the money to see all those guys do a bunch of tricks during the practice.

[duncan2k5]

We don't know that because he gives it to White.

He gave it to white out of necessity

[duncan2k5]

White was injured too, letsnot forget about that and White is not as athletic as Siakam so he can help in other areas defensively for example from the get go. Kawhi missing lots of games is why Siakam gets so many opportunities to showcase what he's got. If Kawhi wasn't the bitch that he is, Siakam would get less touches. Siakam was lucky in this case. Spurs way produces solid superstars, i would always go with what works, take the defensive approach first and then work your way up, thats the Pop way and i'm all about that. We happen to disagree here but its all good. Siakam would have the same and even better development here imo.

He wouldn't have... Other teams have superstars too y know... U think Luka would be this good if he was a rookie for pop? The guy would have been in the d-league, easily

[duncan2k5]

Got damn you're a hater. Not sure I've seen a positive Spurs post from you since Kawhi left. If you're so anti-Spurs you might want to change affiliations. You're probably "cheering" for the wrong team.

U haven't proven my point wrong tho... We all know it

[duncan2k5]

I was at the ASG Practice and media day the other day. Had good seats about 5 rows behind court side. A few observations about # 2.
1. It was funny to see him arrive with Uncle Dennis. Keep in mind outside of Wade/LMA bringing their sons none of the other players brought family members Shows again this guy is Uncle Dennis' property.
2. LMA and #2 didn't talk to each other for most of the practice until they had to compete against each other in a Pop a Shot contest.
3. LMA won the Pop a Shot contest and then both started talk to each other.

Isn't his uncle his manager?

[GreekSpursfan]

He wouldn't have... Other teams have superstars too y know... U think Luka would be this good if he was a rookie for pop? The guy would have been in the d-league, easily

Did you even watch Luka before he enters the NBA? He was the Euroleague MVP and we have Bryn Forbes starting. Whoever thinks that Pop would not start the Euroleague MVP and kept playing Forbes is just another Pop hater. I don't want to call you like that or anyone for that matter but thats how you come across. Siakam had no accolades before entering the NBA. Can't put Siakam and Doncic in the same category.

[GusT15]

Did you even watch Luka before he enters the NBA? He was the Euroleague MVP and we have Bryn Forbes starting. Whoever thinks that Pop would not start the Euroleague MVP and kept playing Forbes is just another Pop hater. I don't want to call you like that or anyone for that matter but thats how you come across. Siakam had no accolades before entering the NBA. Can't put Siakam and Doncic in the same category.

Popovich did NOT start the Euroleague MVP.His name was Manu Ginobili.He had a "wild" style of playing basketball,same as Doncic.He was established with his National Team as well,same as Doncic.
He was 25 years old,not 19.
He played in 69 games as a rookie in RS.Only started 5.

[spursistan]

He was dogshit for most part yesterday.

Forget the 20+ games he is on pace to miss, is this guy even a Top 5 player in the league tbh? Outside the counting stats on volume/usage, he's looked pretty underwhelming and the advanced stats bear that out..

Will see if Kawhi has another gear in the playoffs (especially on D), because otherwise a bit of decline could be kicking in for him.

[Spurs Homer]

The quitter is done.

[LkrFan]

Unless those shoes are lodged up Kawhi's punk ass, who gives a fuck, tbh.
:lol

[bic50]

The quitter is done.
Still mad?

[bic50]

He was dogshit for most part yesterday.

Forget the 20+ games he is on pace to miss, is this guy even a Top 5 player in the league tbh? Outside the counting stats on volume/usage, he's looked pretty underwhelming and the advanced stats bear that out..

Will see if Kawhi has another gear in the playoffs (especially on D), because otherwise a bit of decline could be kicking in for him.
Yeah he's doing fine

[Spurs Homer]

Still mad?

He is still a piece of shit.

Mad has zero to do with a player betraying a franchise.

[exstatic]

Yeah he's doing fine

No he’s not. Yesterday was the first Kawhi Raptor game i watched. He looked disinterested on both ends of the floor, had very little lift, and his three pointer was dogshit. Honestly, if he had undone the cornrows, and blown out his fro, I’d have thought it was someone else. He is not fine. If he were,he wouldn’t be on pace to miss almost 30 games.

[SpurPadre]

Why couldn't Kawhi have worn those shoes that fucked up Zion, tbh?

[GreekSpursfan]

Popovich did NOT start the Euroleague MVP.His name was Manu Ginobili.He had a "wild" style of playing basketball,same as Doncic.He was established with his National Team as well,same as Doncic.
He was 25 years old,not 19.
He played in 69 games as a rookie in RS.Only started 5.

Spurs were title contenders and already had two massive all stars, Dallas is a lottery team with ZERO all stars, waaaaaaaaaay different situations. Right now we have ZERO all stars(LMA is not an all star, i dont care if he was picked) and we start Forbes, both Gino and Luka would play straight away in this situation.

[Maddog]

No he’s not. Yesterday was the first Kawhi Raptor game i watched. He looked disinterested on both ends of the floor, had very little lift, and his three pointer was dogshit. Honestly, if he had undone the cornrows, and blown out his fro, I’d have thought it was someone else. He is not fine. If he were,he wouldn’t be on pace to miss almost 30 games.

In Nephews defense it was his second game in 11 nights.
A couple of weeks off and he'll be fine.

[diego]

Popovich did NOT start the Euroleague MVP.His name was Manu Ginobili.He had a "wild" style of playing basketball,same as Doncic.He was established with his National Team as well,same as Doncic.
He was 25 years old,not 19.
He played in 69 games as a rookie in RS.Only started 5.
Manu came into camp injured from the world cup, and foreign players, especially foreign guards, had an (unfair) rep of being soft shooters, not belonging to the league. Tony and Manu broke a lot of stereotypes and paved the way for the doncic and rubio types to get selected as high picks. Also, even in euroleague no one expected Manu to do what he did, he played for a second division team and when a first division team came for him only luck and circumstance opened the door for Manu to get big minutes and become euroleague MVP, it's really not at all comparable to doncic- at his age, Manu's physique was considered insufficient for the Argentinean league...

[Hoops Czar]

In Nephews defense it was his second game in 11 nights.
A couple of weeks off and he'll be fine.
People who criticize Kawhi's defense need to take one look at DeRozan.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Kawhi is clearly coasting on defense but I don't blame him for that. The past MVPs of like the last 5 years have all been all offense no defense players. KD had no idea how to play defense in OKC. Curry is too scrawny to really guard anyone. Westbrook famously stopped contesting shots and instead went for defensive rebounds. And he was so out of practice playing defense that last year he got lit up by Ricky Rubio one game and then the next he got in foul trouble bc he literally didn't know how to play defense. And Harden has too many lazy/bad defensive plays to even list.

Nobody cares about defense anymore, they only care about offensive stats. "Hey look the guy scored 30 points!" On 8-23 shooting but nobody cares about that either. Tough guys are gone from the NBA. It's all about offense now and Kawhi has gotten the memo. He just needs to play decent enough defense and he put up his 25 points and he will make all NBA. Even missing time

$160 million contract, living in LA, missing games whenever he wants due to load management, all NBA 2nd team and all star. Not a bad way to live life tbh. I don't know what happened to him only caring about winning but I think the culture of the NBA poisoned him and will end up limiting his legacy. The dude was seen as soon being a better Scottie Pippen. I wonder then if he will still be seen as that when its all said and done.

[daslicer]

Kawhi is clearly coasting on defense but I don't blame him for that. The past MVPs of like the last 5 years have all been all offense no defense players. KD had no idea how to play defense in OKC. Curry is too scrawny to really guard anyone. Westbrook famously stopped contesting shots and instead went for defensive rebounds. And he was so out of practice playing defense that last year he got lit up by Ricky Rubio one game and then the next he got in foul trouble bc he literally didn't know how to play defense. And Harden has too many lazy/bad defensive plays to even list.

Nobody cares about defense anymore, they only care about offensive stats. "Hey look the guy scored 30 points!" On 8-23 shooting but nobody cares about that either. Tough guys are gone from the NBA. It's all about offense now and Kawhi has gotten the memo. He just needs to play decent enough defense and he put up his 25 points and he will make all NBA. Even missing time

$160 million contract, living in LA, missing games whenever he wants due to load management, all NBA 2nd team and all star. Not a bad way to live life tbh. I don't know what happened to him only caring about winning but I think the culture of the NBA poisoned him and will end up limiting his legacy. The dude was seen as soon being a better Scottie Pippen. I wonder then if he will still be seen as that when its all said and done.

I never understood the Pippen comparisons tbh. Outside of the defense aspect of the game both players playing styles are not similar.

[bic50]

No he’s not. Yesterday was the first Kawhi Raptor game i watched. He looked disinterested on both ends of the floor, had very little lift, and his three pointer was dogshit. Honestly, if he had undone the cornrows, and blown out his fro, I’d have thought it was someone else. He is not fine. If he were,he wouldn’t be on pace to miss almost 30 games.
Nah he's alright

[duncan2k5]

No he’s not. Yesterday was the first Kawhi Raptor game i watched. He looked disinterested on both ends of the floor, had very little lift, and his three pointer was dogshit. Honestly, if he had undone the cornrows, and blown out his fro, I’d have thought it was someone else. He is not fine. If he were,he wouldn’t be on pace to miss almost 30 games.

U watch one game out of the season and base ur whole opinion of his season on it? LMFAO! stereotypical uninformed spurs fan

[RD2191]

U watch one game out of the season and base ur whole opinion of his season on it? LMFAO! stereotypical uninformed spurs fan

Salty ass spurm fans tbh :lol

[TheGoatishere]

Nigga is sitting out again and y’all still crying over him:lmao

[SpurPadre]

https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player-news/headlines#news-8859706

Load Management doing Load Management things. But this isn't even a back to back deal. Even his defenders and player fans have to admit that this is unprecedented shit, tbh.

[spursistan]

https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player-news/headlines#news-8859706

Load Management doing Load Management things. But this isn't even a back to back deal. Even his defenders and player fans have to admit that this is unprecedented shit, tbh.

At what point do we consider him a "damaged goods"? I mean, he took a year off and missed close 20 games this season and he still can't play B2B after a 10-day All-Star break..

I really wouldn't be shocked if he goes Brandon Roy way midway his next Clippers contract..

[GusT15]

At what point do we consider him a "damaged goods"? I mean, he took a year off and missed close 20 games this season and he still can't play B2B after a 10-day All-Star break..

I really wouldn't be shocked if he goes Brandon Roy way midway his next Clippers contract..

What do you mean at what point?
We have already established since a year ago that if it wasn't just the Uncle trying to force a trade to LA and he was indeed feeling quad pain the medical condition he most likely had was chronic quad tendinopathy.

That thing doesn't just go away,he's gonna be feeling it anyways and he will have to play through the discomfort.

[RD2191]

https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player-news/headlines#news-8859706

Load Management doing Load Management things. But this isn't even a back to back deal. Even his defenders and player fans have to admit that this is unprecedented shit, tbh.

He's trying to get paid next year bruh. The Raptors and Kawhi have an understanding, you'd be ignorant to believe otherwise.

[Maddog]

He's played a total of 52 minutes in 13 days.

[dbreiden83080]

Not playing again after a day off.. Whoever signs him to a long-term contract is a fucking moron. Seriously.

[dbreiden83080]

He's trying to get paid next year bruh. The Raptors and Kawhi have an understanding, you'd be ignorant to believe otherwise.

Right I am sure next season he will go right back to playing 70 or 75 games. Oh no wait he will play like 50. Load management.

[RD2191]

Right I am sure next season he will go right back to playing 70 or 75 games. Oh no wait he will play like 50. Load management.

If the Raptors are ok with it then who cares? Why does it bother you so much? He's not a spur anymore.

[spursistan]

If it turns out that the Holts balked at giving him the Supermax, would you blame, tbh? If this guy can barely clear the 70 games threshold at the peak of his athletic powers 26-28 yo (superstars give you multiple 78-82 games seasons with 35+ MPG around that age), I shudder to think of his "availability" when he hits 30 and get into the wrong side of it..

[RD2191]

If it turns out that the Holts balked at giving him the Supermax, would you blame, tbh? If this guy can barely clear the 70 games threshold at the peak of his athletic powers 26-28 yo (superstars give you multiple 78-82 games seasons with 35+ MPG around that age), I shudder to think of his "availability" when he hits 30 and get into the wrong side of it..

Who gives a shit about the regular season? As long as he was good to go for the playoffs I wouldn't care.

[dbreiden83080]

If the Raptors are ok with it then who cares? Why does it bother you so much? He's not a spur anymore.

Well this is his thread, so I am giving my opinion.

[R. DeMurre]

The combination of the excessive "Load Management" explanation, a long time after his mysterious injury, with his unusual drop in advanced stats effectiveness has to be at least a little worrying for anyone looking to max him out. And I have to wonder if the recent knee issues are connected to the quad injury-- is it a case of his left knee getting too much stress overcompensating for a weakened right leg/quad? Still one of the strangest situations I've ever seen in the NBA.

[SayTown]

Why do you care if it bothers anyone.

[gambit1990]

tbh, kawhi sitting out so many games helps the raptors. their other players get more time to grow.

[GusT15]

tbh, kawhi sitting out so many games helps the raptors. their other players get more time to grow.

Yes,it helps them tremendously.
They just lost by 15 at home to the Magic.
Bye bye 1st seed.

[gambit1990]

Yes,it helps them tremendously.
They just lost by 15 at home to the Magic.
Bye bye 1st seed.
even with their lost today, their record without kawhi is pretty good. home court advantage is overrated imo.

[GusT15]

even with their lost today, their record without kawhi is pretty good. home court advantage is overrated imo.

Their record without Kawhi is good cause Lowry plays good only without #2 in the line up and they generally rest him in winnable games.

Their main competition in the East are Boston and Bucks (Philly have an atrocious bench rotation).

Bucks is a typical "One Superstar plus solid role players" team.They shoot so much better the 3 at home games (just like the Spurs)

Not to mention if they wanted to have a puncher's chance against the Warriors,homecourt advantage would mean so much for them.

[timvp]

Nephew looked pretty iffy physically against the Spurs. He struggled to drive by Belinelli or power through Mills. Not sure what's wrong with him or if he's just playing it safe for dat contract.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Nephew looked pretty iffy physically against the Spurs. He struggled to drive by Belinelli or power through Mills. Not sure what's wrong with him or if he's just playing it safe for dat contract.

Nurse has called out Kawhi recently for not taking over in games often enough.

[baseline bum]

Nephew looked pretty iffy physically against the Spurs. He struggled to drive by Belinelli or power through Mills. Not sure what's wrong with him or if he's just playing it safe for dat contract.

Hopefully it's both and he ends up the Lakers' John Wall.

[313]

The media will spin this into the “player doing what they need to do to protect themselves from the big bad rich owners” narrative...which effectively turn contract years into players sitting out instead of playing their best ball.

Hate to see it.

[313]

Nephew looked pretty iffy physically against the Spurs. He struggled to drive by Belinelli or power through Mills. Not sure what's wrong with him or if he's just playing it safe for dat contract.
He cant even wipe his own ass as hater would say.

[SpurPadre]

He's trying to get paid next year bruh. The Raptors and Kawhi have an understanding, you'd be ignorant to believe otherwise.

Why would any team give him the max when he can't play 2 games in an 11 day span in late February?

[loveforthegame]

Teams with money to spend and need for a superstar player will offer him the max. Even if they only get 60 games from him in the regular season.

[RD2191]

Why would any team give him the max when he can't play 2 games in an 11 day span in late February?

Because not every team is the spurs? It's worth the risk to teams like the Raptors.

[RD2191]

Teams with money to spend and need for a superstar player will offer him the max. Even if they only get 60 games from him in the regular season.

Exactly

[r0drig0lac]

Why would any team give him the max when he can't play 2 games in an 11 day span in late February?

because when he is on the court, even without going 100% he is still dominant

[exstatic]

Nephew looked pretty iffy physically against the Spurs. He struggled to drive by Belinelli or power through Mills. Not sure what's wrong with him or if he's just playing it safe for dat contract.


no, he’s fine

[Johojowhite]

People that are calling him damaged goods. He has missed a lot of games the past month and a half because he tweaked his knee driving for a layup back in early January.

This is has nothing to do with the injury that made him sit out for the whole year. He was making progress this season, was getting his lift back. But then had another injury. I don’t know why the raptors or Kawhi are agreeing to be playing games at all. He has been shooting poorly since the injury in January.

One thing is for sure, I believe he’s re-signing in Toronto. Why else would he be playing AT ALL. He would be pulling a Davis and sit out with a fake injury if he wants out.

[Rusty]

People that are calling him damaged goods. He has missed a lot of games the past month and a half because he tweaked his knee driving for a layup back in early January.

This is has nothing to do with the injury that made him sit out for the whole year. He was making progress this season, was getting his lift back. But then had another injury. I don’t know why the raptors or Kawhi are agreeing to be playing games at all. He has been shooting poorly since the injury in January.

One thing is for sure, I believe he’s re-signing in Toronto. Why else would he be playing AT ALL. He would be pulling a Davis and sit out with a fake injury if he wants out.

thanks for the update, Uncle Dennis:toast

[TDomination]

People that are calling him damaged goods. He has missed a lot of games the past month and a half because he tweaked his knee driving for a layup back in early January.

This is has nothing to do with the injury that made him sit out for the whole year. He was making progress this season, was getting his lift back. But then had another injury. I don’t know why the raptors or Kawhi are agreeing to be playing games at all. He has been shooting poorly since the injury in January.

One thing is for sure, I believe he’s re-signing in Toronto. Why else would he be playing AT ALL. He would be pulling a Davis and sit out with a fake injury if he wants out.

Davis is actually pulling a Kawhi.
Kawhi already did this last year. He would completely tarnish his brand with no return if he pulls that again. Thats why he continues to play this year.

[99 Problems]

:claw 17 hrs without a comment is not acceptable. Surely someone had brunch or played golf with him lately tbh.

[GusT15]

:claw 17 hrs without a comment is not acceptable. Surely someone had brunch or played golf with him lately tbh.

Man when the Spurs are playing their worst basketball of the decade,who in their right mind is in any mood to talk anything related to #2?

Fuck him.That's all.

[Pavlov]

:lol New Balance is going to get a bigger sales bounce from Kate Middleton than Kawhi.

[apalisoc_9]

Can we stop posting this clown? One of the most retarded superstars in recent memory. Single handidly ruined his value and two seasons for nothing.

Lol listening to family members :lmao

[bic50]

Kawhi related news

[spursistan]

Can we stop posting this clown? One of the most retarded superstars in recent memory. Single handidly ruined his value and two seasons for nothing.

Lol listening to family members :lmao


:wow :tu

Just like that, dude pissed away a potential Top 20-25 all-time career.

Forget a title as an Alpha, he is likely never winning one single regular season MVP, which would be ridiculous considering his trajectory up til 2017 playoffs.

[GreekSpursfan]

First observation: People here change sides faster than a tennis ball.
Second: Fuck Kawhi even if he becomes a mount Rushmore guy.

[lmbebo]

http://radsource.us/myositis-ossificans/ best guess on his "injury"

[r0drig0lac]

well...

[Rusty]

damn good shit Nephew:lol

[gambit1990]

kawhi with the GW, 15 points in the 4th.

[GusT15]

well...

Meh,it was expected,Blazers generally played terrible defense on him all 4th quarter.No help,no double teams.

[Hoops Czar]

Kawhi doing what Kawhi does. He's hit more game winners for Toronto than he has his entire Spurs career.

[concernedcad]

Kawhi and Danny are just different. They have mental toughness Raptor fans have never seen. They have played in huge games. A regular season game like this is meaningless and it shows.

[gambit1990]

when those dumbass raptor fans were sad about trading demar :lol

[timtonymanu]

when those dumbass raptor fans were sad about trading demar :lol

It’s funnier when some on here defended the Derozan trade and thought he was a better fit than Kawhi :lol

[Play Boban]

:cry

[apalisoc_9]

Ofcourse this phaggot will have big games. Hes an elite player.

But the way he killled gis career by listening to his uncle is woat decision. Fuck that scumbag

[dbreiden83080]

Hell of a game for him. So we should expect about 2 weeks off now..

[apalisoc_9]

:wow :tu

Just like that, dude pissed away a potential Top 20-25 all-time career.

Forget a title as an Alpha, he is likely never winning one single regular season MVP, which would be ridiculous considering his trajectory up til 2017 playoffs.

Better than top 20 imo. Im not even salty about him leaving. I just think this year hes being a total scumbag.

[UZER]

Kawhi doing what Kawhi does. He's hit more game winners for Toronto than he has his entire Spurs career.

That’s because Pop thinks he so cute by drawing up the GW for Forbes and Patty.

[apalisoc_9]

Hes going to make 2nd team all nba with 60 games :lmao

[bic50]

:wow :tu

Just like that, dude pissed away a potential Top 20-25 all-time career.

Forget a title as an Alpha, he is likely never winning one single regular season MVP, which would be ridiculous considering his trajectory up til 2017 playoffs.
Would he have won one if he stayed with the Spurs?

[TDMVPDPOY]

Would he have won one if he stayed with the Spurs?

he couldve won the year he took a break, that was a weak year to win mvp

the year b4 it? he got robbed...stupid narrative kept him away from winning it, spurs had a top record, let alone a 7-1 h2h against the contenders that season, yet still not good enough...

this year? weak competition..only greek freak is front runner atm, kawhi aint going to win mvp if he plays only 60 games for raptors..

[bic50]

he couldve won the year he took a break, that was a weak year to win mvp

the year b4 it? he got robbed...stupid narrative kept him away from winning it, spurs had a top record, let alone a 7-1 h2h against the contenders that season, yet still not good enough...

this year? weak competition..only greek freak is front runner atm, kawhi aint going to win mvp if he plays only 60 games for raptors..
Agreed

[Genovaswitness]

kawhis playing MVP level ball and we’re stuck with mr depression ��������

[Fuck-Kawhi]

Fuck Kawhi

[Keepin' it real]

Article headline from north of the border:

Toronto Raptors: Is it time to end Kawhi Leonard’s “load management”

:rollin

https://raptorsrapture.com/2019/03/03/toronto-raptors-kawhi-leonard-workload/amp/

[ZeusWillJudge]

Article headline from north of the border:

Toronto Raptors: Is it time to end Kawhi Leonard’s “load management”




LOL. Canadian basketball fans don't have a clue that there are no B2B's in the playoffs.

Imagine how surprised they're going to be when they find out that a series can go 7 games.

[cpds421]

I remember nephew said something on his tour in China about adding something new to his game. I think resting during the regular season it’s what he meant.

It’s just a shame how this guy was mentored by the spurs big 3 and ended up being a total faggot.

[TDomination]

I remember nephew said something on his tour in China about adding something new to his game. I think resting during the regular season it’s what he meant.

It’s just a shame how this guy was mentored by the spurs big 3 and ended up being a total faggot.

Yep.
I wonder what timmy thought about it all. He probably doesn't care now but curious to see what his thoughts were on kawhi.

[Dverde]

Manu played with a broken arm, LMA played part of season with a broken finger twice, Patty has played almost the entire with a broken jump shot. Nephew’s load management :lol

[Dverde]

Manu played with a broken arm, LMA played part of season with a broken finger twice, Patty has played almost the entire with a broken jump shot. Nephew’s load management :lol

[GreekSpursfan]

It's clear as day that uncle Dick is head of the load management team because he has to make sure his nephew is 100% healthy for his next contract with the Clippers and Toronto who obviously agreed to this at the beggining of the season, can't do anything about it now.
This thread needs to die soon, we can't keep being associated with faggotry.

[bic50]

Fuck Kawhi
Bitter af

[bic50]

Yep.
I wonder what timmy thought about it all. He probably doesn't care now but curious to see what his thoughts were on kawhi.
Pretty sure that Tim doesn't care

[bic50]

I remember nephew said something on his tour in China about adding something new to his game. I think resting during the regular season it’s what he meant.

It’s just a shame how this guy was mentored by the spurs big 3 and ended up being a total faggot.
Gotta let it go.

[SpurPadre]

Pretty sure that Tim doesn't care

Tim would've left San Antonio if Orlando agreed to let his family take the same plane so although I love Timmy, I'm sure he has no issues with Kawhi, tbh.

[TDomination]

Tim would've left San Antonio if Orlando agreed to let his family take the same plane so although I love Timmy, I'm sure he has no issues with Kawhi, tbh.
You and I know this whole ordeal with Kawhi was completely different than someone just wanting to leave as a free agent. It was a mess.

I would normally say Tim wouldn't care but I know Tim cares about Pop. And when his wife passed away, Pop was probably not in the best state of mind to be dealing with Spurs stuff. And when someone like Kawhi can't even meet up with Pop 1 on 1 without his group. Or hiding from him in NY, i mean cmon.

[TDMVPDPOY]

kawhis load management... mustve learn that from the spurs premature ejaculation ahead of games, only to lose to inferior team for no apparent reason...

why blow ur load playing those games, blow it against superior teams, then again the last time he blow his load against superior teams with a 7-1 h2h record, he didnt even win mvp

[exstatic]

Manu played with a broken arm, LMA played part of season with a broken finger twice, Patty has played almost the entire with a broken jump shot. Nephew’s load management :lol

I know you were just making a joke at Patty's expense, but he DID play most of a season with a torn labrum in his shoulder, the championship season, IIRC.

[emanueldavidginobili]

I wish we woulda just kept him and then sat him out the entire year, then get all that money coming off the books. Now we’re paying that schizo damn near 28 million dollars the next two years after this season smh.

[duncan2k5]

You and I know this whole ordeal with Kawhi was completely different than someone just wanting to leave as a free agent. It was a mess.

I would normally say Tim wouldn't care but I know Tim cares about Pop. And when his wife passed away, Pop was probably not in the best state of mind to be dealing with Spurs stuff. And when someone like Kawhi can't even meet up with Pop 1 on 1 without his group. Or hiding from him in NY, i mean cmon.

Kawhi wasn't hiding in NY... he was rehabbing... If he was hiding he could have gone home to Cali

[exstatic]

Kawhi wasn't hiding in NY... he was rehabbing... If he was hiding he could have gone home to Cali

He fucking HID from people from the Spurs when they came to check on his re-hab.

[phxspurfan]

I wish we woulda just kept him and then sat him out the entire year, then get all that money coming off the books. Now we’re paying that schizo damn near 28 million dollars the next two years after this season smh.

Money coming off the books doesn't matter for a team in a small market with no chance to land a better free agent. Otherwise you'd be mad when PATFO spent 19M on DeJounte or some shit

[therealtruth]

Not healthy.

[Dejounte]

Kawhi wasn't hiding in NY... he was rehabbing... If he was hiding he could have gone home to Cali

It was reported. Why do you pick and choose which news to believe? You're a fucktard.

[offset formation]

You and I know this whole ordeal with Kawhi was completely different than someone just wanting to leave as a free agent. It was a mess.

I would normally say Tim wouldn't care but I know Tim cares about Pop. And when his wife passed away, Pop was probably not in the best state of mind to be dealing with Spurs stuff. And when someone like Kawhi can't even meet up with Pop 1 on 1 without his group. Or hiding from him in NY, i mean cmon.

Yep, this made him dead to me. Hiding from Pop this summer after his wife's death and then of course from the staff during the season is unforgettable and unforgivable from my perspective.

[duncan2k5]

It was reported. Why do you pick and choose which news to believe? You're a fucktard.

But... Ur literally doing the same, but criticizing me for it... Lmfao... Irony evades you, apparently

[duncan2k5]

Yep, this made him dead to me. Hiding from Pop this summer after his wife's death and then of course from the staff during the season is unforgettable and unforgivable from my perspective.

Pop seems to think differently... And I think he would know more about the situation than you

[SpurPadre]

https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/29695/kawhi-leonard

It's March and Faggot is still not playing back to backs. This is some unprecedented shit, tbh. No other athlete who's otherwise healthy has ever pulled this shit. The league needs to come hard against this eventually.

[SPURt]

https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/29695/kawhi-leonard

It's March and Faggot is still not playing back to backs. This is some unprecedented shit, tbh. No other athlete who's otherwise healthy has ever pulled this shit. The league needs to come hard against this eventually.
Unfortunately the league is waiting for him to get to LA before they cum hard

[dbreiden83080]

If it comes down to Raptors and Bucks in the ECF, this clown has a lot to prove. Pressure is on big time to step up and be the best player in the series. But will he even play every playoff game?

[LakerHater]

He'll play, there's no B2B in playoffs

[Rusty]

He's going to the Clippers

[spursistan]

https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/29695/kawhi-leonard

It's March and Faggot is still not playing back to backs. This is some unprecedented shit, tbh. No other athlete who's otherwise healthy has ever pulled this shit. The league needs to come hard against this eventually.
1104491393848885248

Seriously GTFO :lmao.

Softest superstar to ever lace them up in this league. Yeah, we lost the trade, but deep down there is an organization (and fanbase) relief to get done with this charade..

On to you Clippers..

[Rusty]

Raptors fans are mad as fuck right now that Kawhi is sitting out the next game.:lmao

"he's going to the Clippers isn't he??:cry"
"it's a mutual decision between the coaches/FO and Kawhi to sit out games:cry"

[GusT15]

Raptors fans are mad as fuck right now that Kawhi is sitting out the next game.:lmao

"he's going to the Clippers isn't he??:cry"
"it's a mutual decision between the coaches/FO and Kawhi to sit out games:cry"

Reading the Raptors forum is a guilty pleasure for any Spurfan out there who was bummed out after last season's event.

It's like they are going all the emotions we went through,but in a much shorter time period and as a hungry for success franchise it's magnified x1000.

[Hoops Czar]

Kawhi Leonard living rent free in so many heads. :lol

[Dverde]

I could see nephew signing a two year max deal with a one year opt out in Toronto. Besides that he is gone...I mean milk in bags, he ain’t down with that.

[SpurPadre]

I hope next season the league pushes for back to backs in the playoffs because of this shit.

[RD2191]

Kawhi Leonard living rent free in so many heads. :lol

Embarrassing tbh :lol

[Em-City]

Reading the Raptors forum is a guilty pleasure for any Spurfan out there who was bummed out after last season's event.

It's like they are going all the emotions we went through,but in a much shorter time period and as a hungry for success franchise it's magnified x1000.
link?

[UZER]

Kawhi Leonard living rent free in so many heads. :lol

Including his own.

[GusT15]

link?

Check your messages.

:bobo

[dbreiden83080]

I guess Leonard cares nothing about a final push for the 1 seed in the East. 16 games to go and he is still all about "Load Management" LOL..

20 missed games this season. Likely misses at least 5 more by the end. Pathetic.

[dbreiden83080]

Reading the Raptors forum is a guilty pleasure for any Spurfan out there who was bummed out after last season's event.

It's like they are going all the emotions we went through,but in a much shorter time period and as a hungry for success franchise it's magnified x1000.

Yeah I just did that out of curiosity, and they know he is 100% Full of Shit just like Spurs fans.. Softest elite player in the league..

[FkLA]

He's a faggot and clearly saving himself for LA but can we stop bumping this shit or move it to the NBA Forum?

It's embarrassing that almost an entire season has gone by and a thread about him still sits atop a Spurs forum. Talk about not being able to let go smh.

[dbreiden83080]

He's a faggot and clearly saving himself for LA but can we stop bumping this shit or move it to the NBA Forum?

It's embarrassing that almost an entire season has gone by and a thread about him still sits atop a Spurs forum. Talk about not being able to let go smh.

I think regardless of where he plays this is who he is now. If he is fairly healthy expect him to play 55 to 60 games a season from now on. He’s going to want the games off.. If he is injured he will be out the entire year. So anyone who signs him to a long-term big-money contract. Understand that is the deal.

[Spurs Homer]

He's a faggot and clearly saving himself for LA but can we stop bumping this shit or move it to the NBA Forum?

It's embarrassing that almost an entire season has gone by and a thread about him still sits atop a Spurs forum. Talk about not being able to let go smh.

This.

[Johojowhite]

The wishful thinking in this thread is hilarious. Most raptor fans are happy they no longer have that perennial choker in Detrash on the team.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The wishful thinking in this thread is hilarious. Most raptor fans are happy they no longer have that perennial choker in Detrash on the team.


Exactly, even if Leonard leaves at least the Raps were able to salary dump DeRozan.

[exstatic]

The wishful thinking in this thread is hilarious. Most raptor fans are happy they no longer have that perennial choker in Detrash on the team.

Well, their problems are about to be over. They won’t have either the choker or the faggot, soon.

[SpurPadre]

With the Raptors likely not getting 1st seed or winning the Championship, what's the best spot we can get out of their draft pick?

[RD2191]

I think regardless of where he plays this is who he is now. If he is fairly healthy expect him to play 55 to 60 games a season from now on. He’s going to want the games off.. If he is injured he will be out the entire year. So anyone who signs him to a long-term big-money contract. Understand that is the deal.

Yeah, because front offices browse ST looking for opinions from assholes before making big moves.

[dbreiden83080]

Yeah, because front offices browse ST looking for opinions from assholes before making big moves.

I am an asshole? Grow up you fucking maggot. And if you have two working pairs of eyes, two working pairs of ears, and a brain that is even functioning at a reasonably intelligent level. You already know that is the deal. The spurs season is so bad we are stuck still talking about this clown. But I’m still happy that he is gone.

[exstatic]

With the Raptors likely not getting 1st seed or winning the Championship, what's the best spot we can get out of their draft pick?

Still too far out to tell. I wouldn't think it would be any better than 26 or 27, though. It also doesn't matter if you win the championship or not. Draft position is by final regular season standings for the teams that make the playoffs. Ties are broken by a coin flip.

[John B]

He’s saving his rental knees when he signs back to Spurs. har har har

[Fusternino]

Reading the Raptors forum right now. They actually think Clippers would give up assets in a S&T when they have already effectively open up two max slots for free agents and may be able to move Gallinari rather easily.

Delusional. LOL.

[exstatic]

Reading the Raptors forum right now. They actually think Clippers would give up assets in a S&T when they have already effectively open up two max slots for free agents and may be able to move Gallinari rather easily.

Delusional. LOL.

Not to mention that Bird Rights no longer convey in a S&T...why would Kawhi agree to it?

[boutons_deux]

Clips on a roll, looking like a better destination for nephew than LAL

[BillMc]

He’s saving his rental knees when he signs back to Spurs. har har har
Maybe he can play in the D league like Blair.

[Rusty]

Bad news for Nephew. Raptors fans are now turning against Kawhi. They’re sick of his load management and now regret the Demar-Kawhi trade. Damn....:lmao

[skin27]

Thanks to pop for popularizing and teaching the resting bullshit..

[SpurPadre]

Thanks to pop for popularizing and teaching the resting bullshit..

But even he couldn't anticipate Kawhi's unprecedented faggotry.

[8FOR!3]

So what are the Clippers going to completely revamp their roster (kinda odd considering the success they've had this year but I get it when you can sign superstars) and sign Kawhi and go after another max slot? I guess my question is who do they go after? And it doesn't really make them a favorite to win the title imo even considering how much the landscape might change in the NBA this offseason.

[Dancelot]

Bad news for Nephew. Raptors fans are now turning against Kawhi. They’re sick of his load management and now regret the Demar-Kawhi trade. Damn....:lmao
Hmm, I really haven’t seen much of them turning on him. Honestly, most of them sound as delusional as we were last season believing that he’s gonna stay.

[BillMc]

According to Windhorst Spurs did offer SuperMax to Kawhi:


Leonard turned down a supermax extension with the San Antonio Spurs (http://global.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs) last summer, though it was offered after his trade request, when he'd already made up his mind.

http://global.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26237579/nba-superstars-new-free-agent-strategy

[ZeusWillJudge]

According to Windhorst Spurs did offer SuperMax to Kawhi:

http://global.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26237579/nba-superstars-new-free-agent-strategy


It wasn't exactly a request, and I'm pretty sure he had made up his mind the summer before. But I do wonder if the Spurs had tried to discuss the possibility of Kawhi signing for less than the max, like Timmy did.

[Twisted_Dawg]

As confusing as that saga got, I wonder if Windhorst is 100% accurate.

Timvp, time for you to step up and clear things up?

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Does Whinehorse even know Kawhi? Dude is someone I trust with my Lebron news but I don't trust him on literally anything else.

[RD2191]

According to Windhorst Spurs did offer SuperMax to Kawhi:



http://global.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26237579/nba-superstars-new-free-agent-strategy

:lol patfo

[SpursDynasty85]

:lol patfo

I guess you would've offered the super max with a no trade clause to quiet super star , his shady agent and uncle... glad you are not running the Spurs.

[Dverde]

Raptors may have an easy road to the conference final. It could be Detroit then Indy/Brooklyn winner. We may see load management in the playoffs.

[Hoops Czar]

I guess you would've offered the super max with a no trade clause to quiet super star , his shady agent and uncle... glad you are not running the Spurs.
You woudn't have minded and if you say you would, you're lying.

[SpurPadre]

You woudn't have minded and if you say you would, you're lying.

If there was a written stipulation in that contract that she would load manage her bitch ass for a third of the season, then fuck no I wouldn't give her the max.

[SpursDynasty85]

You woudn't have minded and if you say you would, you're lying.

Umm. If I had any indication that they were trying to leave SA,give the franchise a hard time, and not embrace being a Spur full heartedly. NO. I dont know the full story but there is a reason the Spurs didnt offer that up front and may jave pnly offered a Super Max without a no trade clause. Sure sign the Super Max with out it, we break uo I can at least trade you where I want to. Why would I sign you to a supermax and be stuck with a no trade clause liniting my options for market value on your 50M+ contract only for you to sit out seasons at a time getting therapy when you can play. Nah, I said what I said for a reason. Think smarter next time.

[Hoops Czar]

Umm. If I had any indication that they were trying to leave SA,give the franchise a hard time, and not embrace being a Spur full heartedly. NO. I dont know the full story but there is a reason the Spurs didnt offer that up front and may jave pnly offered a Super Max without a no trade clause. Sure sign the Super Max with out it, we break uo I can at least trade you where I want to. Why would I sign you to a supermax and be stuck with a no trade clause liniting my options for market value on your 50M+ contract only for you to sit out seasons at a time getting therapy when you can play. Nah, I said what I said for a reason. Think smarter next time.
Even if he was sitting out 20-25 games a season, he'd still be better than 95% of the league's players when playing. And does it matter how many so called meaningless regular season games he sits out if he delivers championship trophies in the postseason? It was always meaningless regular season games when the big three sat out but when Kawhi sits out, he's killing his team, he's finished, [fill in the blank] Spurstalk cliche

I would rather have a half-baked Kawhi at 50% than Demar DeRozan at 100% as he sits there eating through the Spurs cap space for the next three years before they re-sign him. It's not like the Spurs would have done didley with the roster without Kawhi. Aldridge is 34, DeRozan is a classic underperforming basket case, and Gay is a walking catastrophe waiting to happen. Give Kawhi the supermax with a no trade clause because the Spurs don't trade their own unless they request it and players don't exactly knock down Pop's door wanting to play for the Spurs.

[GusT15]

I would rather have a half-baked Kawhi at 50% than Demar DeRozan at 100% as he sits there eating through the Spurs cap space for the next three years before they re-sign him.

You can't make that point at the moment.
Maybe it will be a valid argument in June,but right now you can't really support that opinion.

We have to see what Nephew does in the play offs and how his body holds up in play off scheduling and intensity before saying that.
As things stand right now in mid March,his quad tendon may or may not be still suffering from some kind of inflammation.He may be fine but saving himself for his new contract.Or he may have some other condition nobody knows about.

But we can't speak in absolutes and compare him to any other player in the league cause there are many variables and things to be proven or disproven come May.

[SpursDynasty85]

Even if he was sitting out 20-25 games a season, he'd still be better than 95% of the league's players when playing. And does it matter how many so called meaningless regular season games he sits out if he delivers championship trophies in the postseason? It was always meaningless regular season games when the big three sat out but when Kawhi sits out, he's killing his team, he's finished, [fill in the blank] Spurstalk cliche

I would rather have a half-baked Kawhi at 50% than Demar DeRozan at 100% as he sits there eating through the Spurs cap space for the next three years before they re-sign him. It's not like the Spurs would have done didley with the roster without Kawhi. Aldridge is 34, DeRozan is a classic underperforming basket case, and Gay is a walking catastrophe waiting to happen. Give Kawhi the supermax with a no trade clause because the Spurs don't trade their own unless they request it and players don't exactly knock down Pop's door wanting to play for the Spurs.

Ok. Well, I disagree then. 50M for a half baked Kawhi is terrible not to mention you get a guy who generally does not bring enhance or support the type of culture the Spurs want to be about. This is all mute though if Kawhi literally protests to sit out so he can take his $50M contract to LA. Like he basically did for his last 2 years on his contract. It was too risky and imo the only reason Spurs offered the Supermax was because Kawhi diminished his trade value. Unfortubately Demar qas the best they could do without a rebuild probably. I enjoy watching these guys play and seeing how well everyone gets along. Small victories in the regular season are more fun to see.

[Blackhaus]

Y’all still talking about this quitter? Sheesh, let it go. Yeah it hurts and DeRozan isn’t the player Kwitter is but guess what, spurs franchise keeps moving forward and looking at another playoff appearance.

[Harry Callahan]

Nephew will miss RS games AND playoff games when he decides his next resting place for the next 4-5 years. His medical people have been driving the bus for almost 2 years and he still needs HEAVY load management.

Sinking $220MM or $230MM in an unreliable person is bad business. Nephew's last two complete playoff runs (all the way back to 2015 and 2016) were inconsistent in results. Could not deal with the Clippers and the Thunder.

[Dverde]

Nephew will miss RS games AND playoff games when he decides his next resting place for the next 4-5 years. His medical people have been driving the bus for almost 2 years and he still needs HEAVY load management.

Sinking $220MM or $230MM in an unreliable person is bad business. Nephew's last two complete playoff runs (all the way back to 2015 and 2016) were inconsistent in results. Could not deal with the Clippers and the Thunder.

Yeah, I was ride or die with Nephew before all the craziness , but he could have John Wall’d the franchise taking that supermax.

[GusT15]

Yeah, I was ride or die with Nephew before all the craziness , but he could have John Wall’d the franchise taking that supermax.

Strangest/biggest mystery injury? Nephew's quad or Wall's snapping his Achilles while "slipping and falling" at home?

[lmbebo]

His medical team isn't driving the bus, its his "team/family"..... the doctor in Philly was just a face.

[Twisted_Dawg]

His medical team isn't driving the bus, its his "team/family"..... the doctor in Philly was just a face.

That doctor was the 5th face.

[gambit1990]

i think tony is more to blame than we know. and the spurs tried losing him to keep kawhi.

if timmy or manu wanted to come back instead of retiring, spurs would’ve easily forked over $5 million.

maybe PATFO knew tony’s impact would be nil... but even then, they were fine with giving gasol as much they did.

if tony can say “my injury was 100 times worse” in public, who knows how much doubt he cast on kawhi in the team meeting. but whatever, what’s done is done.

[K...]

i think tony is more to blame than we know. and the spurs tried losing him to keep kawhi.

if timmy or manu wanted to come back instead of retiring, spurs would’ve easily forked over $5 million.

maybe PATFO knew tony’s impact would be nil... but even then, they were fine with giving gasol as much they did.

if tony can say “my injury was 100 times worse” in public, who knows how much doubt he cast on kawhi in the team meeting. but whatever, what’s done is done.

Tony would be knifed in his sleep if they thought it could keep kawhi. If the problem started in 2013 or so fine, but why would KAwhi quit on the team in the year Parker was out for extened time and benched in favor of murray? Wasn't exactly a secret murray was the future. Parker is loyal, kawhi is a snake. Get used to it.

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvQcWvlhhgO/?utm_source=ig_embed

[toki9]

i think tony is more to blame than we know. and the spurs tried losing him to keep kawhi.

if timmy or manu wanted to come back instead of retiring, spurs would’ve easily forked over $5 million.

maybe PATFO knew tony’s impact would be nil... but even then, they were fine with giving gasol as much they did.

if tony can say “my injury was 100 times worse” in public, who knows how much doubt he cast on kawhi in the team meeting. but whatever, what’s done is done.

"Parker said that the Spurs did in fact offer similar money to Charlotte, despite what rumors were saying.

Parker signed a 2-year $10 million deal with Charlotte after playing 17 years with the Spurs. The French site #TrashTalk translated Parker's interview from French to English. (https://trashtalk.co/2018/09/09/tony-parker-explique-son-depart-des-spurs-je-ne-voulais-pas-terminer-assistant-coach/)

"The Spurs offered me the same thing (contractually) as Charlotte, but it was more about the role. It was not a question of money. And it’s important that people know this, because there are a lot of people who were “angry” at the Spurs, thinking the franchise had not offered me anything," Parker said. "Yes, they offered me something similar, but I did not want to finish (as an) assistant-coach."

https://www.ksat.com/sports/it-was-the-role-not-the-money-that-led-tony-parker-to-leave-spurs-report-says

[TDMVPDPOY]

Tony would be knifed in his sleep if they thought it could keep kawhi. If the problem started in 2013 or so fine, but why would KAwhi quit on the team in the year Parker was out for extened time and benched in favor of murray? Wasn't exactly a secret murray was the future. Parker is loyal, kawhi is a snake. Get used to it.

patfo was wasting kawhis time, they had 3 yrs to get rid of parker when they gave him that loyalty contract after the last championship

clearly they kept on handing out loyalty contracts or bringing back veterans, while kicking younger players around the bush that was meant to be the future to be built around kawhi...

the remnants of the big 3 system, was a broken system that was living on barrowed time due to kawhis emergence from role player to superstar eextending those 3 tosb careers passed it used by date

then u have the LMA saga.. fck that clown only cared about his touches, instead of playing 110% whatever the stats was...guys a scrub


kawhi wanted nothing to do with that coat rider kent,
had he signed that supermax deal
patfo still lowballs enrique say for minimum, if he signs it, that means 1 more year with the coatrider...doubt kawhi wants to deal with that again

[GusT15]

https://streamable.com/g2mqt

"Stolen" from Raptorfans.

Must see TV.

:lmao.

[paperboy77]

https://streamable.com/g2mqt

"Stolen" from Raptorfans.

Must see TV.

:lmao.

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!! :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[GusT15]

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!! :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[exstatic]

apa, on a good day...

[ZeusWillJudge]

https://streamable.com/g2mqt

"Stolen" from Raptorfans.

Must see TV.

:lmao.


:lmao Oh, holy shit! Instant classic!

I love the "Raptor noises" at the end.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

https://streamable.com/g2mqt

"Stolen" from Raptorfans.

Must see TV.

:lmao.
Season that keeps on giving :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[lmbebo]

https://streamable.com/g2mqt

"Stolen" from Raptorfans.

Must see TV.

:lmao.



:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Spurs Homer]

:lmao:lmao:lmao


Clippers - will be next after the raptors

[WallyTiger]

Uncle Denis will hire assasins kill all of you, and rule Canada.

[gambit1990]

Parker is loyal, kawhi is a snake.
so loyal he slept with a teammate’s wife.

[gambit1990]

Parker said that the Spurs did in fact offer similar money to Charlotte, despite what rumors were saying.
tony also said that he only said his injury was 100 times worse is because a reporter asked him to compare their injuries... which isn’t what the reporter asked at all.

[TDMVPDPOY]

so loyal he slept with a teammate’s wife.

spurs patfo pulled a mavs patfo by keep employing this pos instead of allowing him to go to another team cucking other players....

dunno why they overbid for his services on his loyalty contract, yet they wanna keep him around for another year with lesser role for 5m... why keep him around? when u know there is tension between him and kawhi...

[gambit1990]

WOJ circa 2018: "The last straw for him, I was told, was when Tony Parker made those comments about 'my quad injury was 100 times worse.' And if you remember, shortly after, Kawhi Leonard left San Antonio and didn't want to be a part of that media glare there, and did not come back until the season was over with."

[lmbebo]

WOJ circa 2018: "The last straw for him, I was told, was when Tony Parker made those comments about 'my quad injury was 100 times worse.' And if you remember, shortly after, Kawhi Leonard left San Antonio and didn't want to be a part of that media glare there, and did not come back until the season was over with."

They've never actually said what his "injury" was... It was so devastating that it took 10 orthopedic surgeons to "evaluate" him to find what the problem was. A real injury is 100x worse than a made up one.

If he had a real injury, then he had nothing to hide. Its come out that the spurs offered him the super max ... But yet the if he let out about his "injury", he wouldn't get it....

And again, just speaks to either how weak minded Quitter was if a misquote/scenario with TP was. Or more likely his "camp" pounced on that misquote to fabricate a reason to disappear for good.

[toki9]

tony also said that he only said his injury was 100 times worse is because a reporter asked him to compare their injuries... which isn’t what the reporter asked at all.

Here is the video ( https://www.kens5.com/video/sports/nba/spurs/tony-parker-talks-about-kawhi-leonards-injury/273-8045285 )...the question asked (about 2:20 mark) was "What's you guys' message to Kawhi", and he answers drawing upon his own injury experience...but if you let it run a bit longer, you'll hear another reporter further asking Tony about his injury and what he did to comeback... it may be that he's just misremembering the sequences of questions asked. Also based on the flow of interview, it's pretty clear that he answered the original question about message with reference to his own injury, i.e., does he have a particular insight to share with Kawhi given what he went through. It's all pretty innocuous. But, sure, you also can't rule out that he just lies when it suits him.

[toki9]

They've never actually said what his "injury" was... It was so devastating that it took 10 orthopedic surgeons to "evaluate" him to find what the problem was. A real injury is 100x worse than a made up one.

If he had a real injury, then he had nothing to hide. Its come out that the spurs offered him the super max ... But yet the if he let out about his "injury", he wouldn't get it....

And again, just speaks to either how weak minded Quitter was if a misquote/scenario with TP was. Or more likely his "camp" pounced on that misquote to fabricate a reason to disappear for good.

Isn't all the "load management" that Kawhi's been doing this season consistent with Spurs' diagnosis that it was a long term issue that had to be managed? This was probably always about money, i.e., the Supermax. When the team told Kawhi and his uncle two summers agon that Kawhi had a chronic issue, the uncle probably thought it was just the Spurs trying to lowball Kawhi...and everything probably spun out of control from that. It may have been exacerbated by the fact that the team couldn't even offer the supermax until this past summer. Actually, tt wouldn't be suprising if Kawhi's uncle and the football agent weren't even aware that they couldn't offer the supermax until this past summer and instead believed the delay in offering the supermax was just the team was trying to negotiate in bad faith.

[GusT15]

They've never actually said what his "injury" was... It was so devastating that it took 10 orthopedic surgeons to "evaluate" him to find what the problem was. A real injury is 100x worse than a made up one.

If he had a real injury, then he had nothing to hide.

Not entirely true.
If he had/has a chronic condition on his quad tendon (like the Spurs doctors version of a diagnosis of chronic quad tendinopathy,his quad tendon periodically geting inflammation and needing of rest) then he has a LOT of incentives to actually hide that injury and mask it as a calcified quad muscle.

Why? Well cause he was approaching his contract year,was gonna get a supermax from the Spurs of a max from another team.It was/is his big pay day.A chronic situation on your quad is not a good look at this time.

Having said that,irregardless of injury or no injury,he can go fuck himself tbh

[Twisted_Dawg]

It's clear the guy, perhaps with the encouragement of his group, no longer wanted to play in San Antonio for one reason or another. He might not have liked the roster construction (Gasol/Mills over Dedmon/Simmons), lack of younger talent on the roster, tired of Pop's military style, sick of Parker, not wanting to share the ball with Aldridge, etc. He and his group looked for reasons to leave such as the perceived disrespect at the ASG and not being consulted on the roster construction. The medical issues just allowed him and his group a more substantive way of exiting. This wasn't about money or endorsements.
By us offering the Super Max, he will lose millions by signing with the Clippers and California's 13.3% income tax. We all have friends that have gone through messy breakups and some of them come up with a litany of nutty excuses why they want out.

He just didn't want to live in San Antonio and play for the Spurs any longer.

[lmbebo]

Isn't all the "load management" that Kawhi's been doing this season consistent with Spurs' diagnosis that it was a long term issue that had to be managed? This was probably always about money, i.e., the Supermax. When the team told Kawhi and his uncle two summers agon that Kawhi had a chronic issue, the uncle probably thought it was just the Spurs trying to lowball Kawhi...and everything probably spun out of control from that. It may have been exacerbated by the fact that the team couldn't even offer the supermax until this past summer. Actually, tt wouldn't be suprising if Kawhi's uncle and the football agent weren't even aware that they couldn't offer the supermax until this past summer and instead believed the delay in offering the supermax was just the team was trying to negotiate in bad faith.

His load management is his camp telling the Raptors that Kwahi doesn't feel like playing today. Team has no say in it and can't say anything because if they did, it would hurt in there bid to keep him in Toronto ... It doesn't prove or disprove anything about an "injury".

[lmbebo]

Not entirely true.
If he had/has a chronic condition on his quad tendon (like the Spurs doctors version of a diagnosis of chronic quad tendinopathy,his quad tendon periodically geting inflammation and needing of rest) then he has a LOT of incentives to actually hide that injury and mask it as a calcified quad muscle.

Why? Well cause he was approaching his contract year,was gonna get a supermax from the Spurs of a max from another team.It was/is his big pay day.A chronic situation on your quad is not a good look at this time.

Having said that,irregardless of injury or no injury,he can go fuck himself tbh


He hid from the Spurs doctors and the Spurs. Chronic quad tendinopathy is analogous to scarring. He played the whole previous season even after the initial injury they indicated and nearly had an MVP season. The more time that has passed, the more I think that the injury was completely fake.

It was a "medical" hold out. His uncle/family decided they wanted out of SA the summer before last.

[Dverde]

Are you idiots still litigating why he left? Who cares! Go outside. Ride your bike.

[r0drig0lac]

It's clear the guy, perhaps with the encouragement of his group, no longer wanted to play in San Antonio for one reason or another. He might not have liked the roster construction (Gasol/Mills over Dedmon/Simmons), lack of younger talent on the roster, tired of Pop's military style, sick of Parker, not wanting to share the ball with Aldridge, etc. He and his group looked for reasons to leave such as the perceived disrespect at the ASG and not being consulted on the roster construction. The medical issues just allowed him and his group a more substantive way of exiting. This wasn't about money or endorsements.
By us offering the Super Max, he will lose millions by signing with the Clippers and California's 13.3% income tax. We all have friends that have gone through messy breakups and some of them come up with a litany of nutty excuses why they want out.

He just didn't want to live in San Antonio and play for the Spurs any longer.

word

[SpurPadre]

No more back-to-backs for the Raptors. Will Load Management still sit out games?

[exstatic]

No more back-to-backs for the Raptors. Will Load Management still sit out games?

He’s already sat games with that weren’t back to backs.

[SpurPadre]

He’s already sat games with that weren’t back to backs.

True. I could be wrong but this must be the first time in league history that a player deemed healthy has not played full back-to-backs in a whole season.

[spursparker9]

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-two-dominant-games-in-three-days-kawhi-leonard-has-no-complaints-about-his-health-toronto-raptors-044213095.html


“We’ll see how it goes moving forward, but me missing games isn’t just to keep me fresh,” Leonard said Friday, via SportsNet’s Michael Grange. “It’s obviously making sure I don’t re-injure something that I was out for last year. Like I said before, they’ve been doing a good job of reading images and making sure that I’m improving instead of declining on the health side.”

[spursparker9]

Paul George has spoken to Kawhi Leonard about free agency experience


Paul George said he's spoken to Kawhi about his experience in a similar situation last year (coming to a new team and facing free agency before ultimately deciding to stay in OKC). What advice did he have? "That's between us."

https://sports.yahoo.com/paul-george-spoken-kawhi-leonard-140039056.html

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moB5T_l9Rs4

[BillMc]

Uncle Denis will hire assasins kill all of you, and rule Canada.

That's not a sentence you see everyday. :tu

[8FOR!3]

Ha. Don't care what he does at this point. My guess is that he resigns or goes to the Clippers. I guess that's not really going out on a limb though.

[Dverde]

His management team is a bunch of idiots. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes to the Lakers now. If he could save the Lakers next year it would be epic.

[exstatic]

His management team is a bunch of idiots. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes to the Lakers now. If he could save the Lakers next year it would be epic.

What would be epic is if he went to the Lakers to team with LeBron, and they STILL missed the playoffs. :lol

[lmbebo]

https://sports.yahoo.com/after-two-dominant-games-in-three-days-kawhi-leonard-has-no-complaints-about-his-health-toronto-raptors-044213095.html

Was he insinuating that the rads reading his images in SA were incompotent?

“We’ll see how it goes moving forward, but me missing games isn’t just to keep me fresh,” Leonard said Friday, via SportsNet’s Michael Grange. “It’s obviously making sure I don’t re-injure something that I was out for last year. Like I said before, they’ve been doing a good job of reading images and making sure that I’m improving instead of declining on the health side.”

[GusT15]

Was he insinuating that the rads reading his images in SA were incompotent?

“We’ll see how it goes moving forward, but me missing games isn’t just to keep me fresh,” Leonard said Friday, via SportsNet’s Michael Grange. “It’s obviously making sure I don’t re-injure something that I was out for last year. Like I said before, they’ve been doing a good job of reading images and making sure that I’m improving instead of declining on the health side.”

Here you go,ESPN's reporting of what happened last year to compare it to what he's saying now

Leonard's camp believes his condition is the result of a series of contusions to the quadriceps that began with one very deep bruise in March 2016 that caused him to miss three games. Leonard was again listed with a "quad contusion" on the Feb. 6, 2017, injury report, when he was a late scratch before a game. But it wasn't until the end of last season when the severity of the injury became apparent.
According to multiple sources, Leonard's camp has come to believe the issue has more to do with an ossification, or hardening, in the area where the muscle has been repeatedly bruised, and then an atrophy, which in turn affected the tendons connecting the muscle to the knee.
The Spurs have always called the injury quadriceps tendinopathy, which is a disease of the tendon that has a degenerative effect on the muscle by keeping it in a constant state of exhaustion.

source http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs

[Dverde]

Here you go,ESPN's reporting of what happened last year to compare it to what he's saying now

Leonard's camp believes his condition is the result of a series of contusions to the quadriceps that began with one very deep bruise in March 2016 that caused him to miss three games. Leonard was again listed with a "quad contusion" on the Feb. 6, 2017, injury report, when he was a late scratch before a game. But it wasn't until the end of last season when the severity of the injury became apparent.
According to multiple sources, Leonard's camp has come to believe the issue has more to do with an ossification, or hardening, in the area where the muscle has been repeatedly bruised, and then an atrophy, which in turn affected the tendons connecting the muscle to the knee.
The Spurs have always called the injury quadriceps tendinopathy, which is a disease of the tendon that has a degenerative effect on the muscle by keeping it in a constant state of exhaustion.

source http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs

So his camp leaked that he will never be 100% again. Brilliant stuff because front offices only care about the past and not the future.

[lmbebo]

So his camp leaked that he will never be 100% again. Brilliant stuff because front offices only care about the past and not the future.

MO is an imaging or path diagnosis... Spurs medical staff wouldn't have made that diagnosis on physical exam.

[coachmac87]

Was he insinuating that the rads reading his images in SA were incompotent?

“We’ll see how it goes moving forward, but me missing games isn’t just to keep me fresh,” Leonard said Friday, via SportsNet’s Michael Grange. “It’s obviously making sure I don’t re-injure something that I was out for last year. Like I said before, they’ve been doing a good job of reading images and making sure that I’m improving instead of declining on the health side.”






His “load management” or him missing games (More than LeBron) just shows IMO there wasn’t a misdiagnosis tbh. It’s funny how all this is turning out.

[lmbebo]

His “load management” or him missing games (More than LeBron) just shows IMO there wasn’t a misdiagnosis tbh. It’s funny how all this is turning out.

His "load management" is him saying, I don't feel like playing today ...

[coachmac87]

His "load management" is him saying, I don't feel like playing today ...

Or you can take his word for it...says himself he doesn’t want the injury to reoccurring etc...

Hmm that’s odd because his camp made it seem injury while serious was temporary...

SPurs FO on the other hand said this type of injury needed to be managed or monitored...

That to me suggest Spurs were the ones who could’ve been right

[spursistan]

Not sure if this one was posted before:

Kawhi (load management) OUT of Manu video tribute highlights , Per Woj.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1113590356832968704

[John B]

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1113590356832968704
:lol:lol that was weak

[SpurPadre]

So Faggot won't hit 60 games this year? I know there aren't any back to backs in the playoffs but how will she hold up in a grueling, physical extensive playoff run? We aren't doing shit in these playoffs but neither will she and that alone makes this season worth it.

[duncan2k5]

Or you can take his word for it...says himself he doesn’t want the injury to reoccurring etc...

Hmm that’s odd because his camp made it seem injury while serious was temporary...

SPurs FO on the other hand said this type of injury needed to be managed or monitored...

That to me suggest Spurs were the ones who could’ve been right

When did spurs FO say this about his injury? I've only seen ppl on here say that, as if they have inside information

[dbreiden83080]

When did spurs FO say this about his injury? I've only seen ppl on here say that, as if they have inside information
Why do you still support this guy? He is long gone, and left under highly shady circumstances to say the least. Are you a Spurs fan or not? I am a Giants fan, and I don't give a flying shit about OBJ anymore. So long..

[AFBoy]

lol talk about delusional.

[TDMVPDPOY]

kawhi s till living rent free in some spurms fans hahahaha

[SpurPadre]

kawhi s till living rent free in some spurms fans hahahaha

Her uncle is living rent free in her head, tbh.

[daslicer]

kawhi s till living rent free in some spurms fans hahahaha

:lol Much like how Tony Parker lives rent free in your head.

[TimmyBuckets]

kawhi s till living rent free in some spurms fans hahahaha

[TDMVPDPOY]

:lol Much like how Tony Parker lives rent free in your head.

dis kent hahaha

[BackHome]

KY still can’t wipe his ass with out Daboom and TGY.

[GusT15]

https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/1114338108063924224

[spursparker9]

https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/1114338108063924224

:rollin:rollin:rollin

[timvp]

A fadeaway 21-footer over Batum with 3.3 seconds remaining? Interesting decision, tbh.

[offset formation]

Lol. Raptors won fewer games this year than last despite obviously more talent AND a much easier conference.

Kawhi is simply NOT a max player anymore based on his usage rate alone. Throw in that he doesn't make his teammates better as the primary option and it all adds up to addition by subtraction. Good riddance.

[baseline bum]

A fadeaway 21-footer over Batum with 3.3 seconds remaining? Interesting decision, tbh.

Trying to stay fresh for LA this summer.

[SpurPadre]

It will be very interesting to see if Kawhi would sit out a Game 4 in a series if Toronto was up or down 3-0. That would cement his status as the most selfish player of all-time.

[YGWHI]

Lol. Raptors won fewer games this year than last despite obviously more talent AND a much easier conference.
If you can't read context...
Last season Lowry missed just 4 games, this season 20. Last season Fred VV missed 6 games this season 20 too.

Easy conference? Who knows but Raptors have the best record vs the West.

The Bucks have the second best record behind Toronto vs. the West
https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/1113583144941129728


Kawhi is simply NOT a max player anymore based on his usage rate alone. Throw in that he doesn't make his teammates better as the primary option and it all adds up to addition by subtraction. Good riddance.

Kawhi is averaging career high in pts and rbs. 27ppg 7.4rpg in .50% .37 3P% .86 FT%...4.5 apg in his last 4 games.

Clutch
1112814018086014977


And a beast...For people here talking shit about his passing skills just look his pass to Lowry cut in this vid
1113610711882661889

[YGWHI]

I laugh so hard at the fans here saying he's not a max player...

[JeffDuncan]

Lol. Raptors won fewer games this year than last despite obviously more talent AND a much easier conference. ...

Their coach, Nick Nurse, is retarded. We criticize Pop, but their coach is... far far worse. He's the Bryn Forbes of coaching.

[YGWHI]

Their coach, Nick Nurse, is retarded. We criticize Pop, but their coach is... far far worse. He's the Bryn Forbes of coaching.

True. There is a reason why the guy coaching the team with 2nd best record in the league isn't getting any COY consideration.

[offset formation]

If you can't read context...
Last season Lowry missed just 4 games, this season 20. Last season Fred VV missed 6 games this season 20 too.

Easy conference? Who knows but Raptors have the best record vs the West.

The Bucks have the second best record behind Toronto vs. the West
https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/1113583144941129728



Kawhi is averaging career high in pts and rbs. 27ppg 7.4rpg in .50% .37 3P% .86 FT%...4.5 apg in his last 4 games.

Clutch
1112814018086014977


And a beast...For people here talking shit about his passing skills just look his pass to Lowry cut in this vid
1113610711882661889

Fuck your context if you're going to gloss over the theme

Lol. I see how you skipped over the key part. So what if Lowry or Fred fucking Van Vleet missed 16 more games this season. Lol. Holy shit. Paskal Siakam is exponentially more better this year. Plus they picked up Danny Green who is shooting his ass off this year. To the point many Raptor fans say he was the steal of the trade.
So their starting five is BETTER at three of the five positions, at worst. They clearly have far more talent this year. In a weaker Eastern conference. Hell, even your point about Kawhi's improved stats proves my point. He's playing better than ever on the offensive end....and YET they have roughly equal win percentages with and without him on the floor this season.

Why? To the point you glossed over....HE DOESN'T MAKE HIS TEAMS BETTER AS THE PRIMARY OPTION. AND HE IS NOT WORTH A MAX CONTRACT GIVEN THAT AND HIS USAGE RATE.

Now you're welcome to pull some more stats that prove my point. Thanks for playing. Fucking Kawhi jock sniffers are sooo pathetic.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I don't like his new hairdo. Let's talk about that.

[offset formation]

I laugh so hard at the fans here saying he's not a max player...

I bet you the GM that gives him that max this offseason is fired within 4 seasons of the signing because of what it does to the team putting that much into a non impact player. Read: His usage rate simply does not justify it. And his lack of reliable team ball contribution underscores his deficiency. As the primary option now, he rarely gets double doubles. He iso balls and stagnates an offense too many times. You tell me what you want to lay down on it.

[TimmyBuckets]

Jeremy Lamb.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Please come back this summer Kawhi!

[SpurPadre]

I laugh so hard at the fans here saying he's not a max player...

He hasn't played a full season in 8 seasons and couldn't break 60 this season. Fuck no, that's not worth max money. I laugh hard at your defense of that faggot.

[JeffDuncan]

I don't like his new hairdo. Let's talk about that.

His hair always looked dorky. He should try doing it up in a lonnie.

[Maddog]

True. There is a reason why the guy coaching the team with 2nd best record in the league isn't getting any COY consideration.


I bet you the GM that gives him that max this offseason is fired within 4 seasons of the signing because of what it does to the team putting that much into a non impact player. Read: His usage rate simply does not justify it. And his lack of reliable team ball contribution underscores his deficiency. As the primary option now, he rarely gets double doubles. He iso balls and stagnates an offense too many times. You tell me what you want to lay down on it.

He's going to get at least a Max offer from Toronto. Maybe LAC.
If I'm Toronto, I do it, but I'd be very nervous if he signed.

[Twisted_Dawg]

I wonder if there is any slow simmering resentment building on the other members of the Raps? They play hard in all the games and don't load manage, they play very well together when KL refuses to play and win, yet KL gets the lions share of the credit and publicity. You would think a few of the Raps are getting tired of his bullshit.

[offset formation]

I wonder if there is any slow simmering resentment building on the other members of the Raps? They play hard in all the games and don't load manage, they play very well together when KL refuses to play and win, yet KL gets the lions share of the credit and publicity. You would think a few of the Raps are getting tired of his bullshit.

Lowry, undoubtedly.

[offset formation]

He's going to get at least a Max offer from Toronto. Maybe LAC.
If I'm Toronto, I do it, but I'd be very nervous if he signed.

Yes he will. And that GM will be gone by the end of Kawhi's contract.

[daslicer]

I'm just surprised YG is back in here defending #2 but I guess the old saying once a cuck always a cuck rings true.

[blah28]

Toronto will offer him the max to keep him. Who knows if he stays or not. But if he does he can basically rest as much as he wants moving forward since he has been doing all of this year. I know Toronto would never put any stipulation into has contract about how many games he needs to play to get his full salary.

Now if he goes to the Clippers I am wondering if West will allow him to rest or put a clause in his contract. I know Embid has some game clause in his contract he signed last year because of all his injuries.

[phxspurfan]

Plus they picked up Danny Green who is shooting his ass off this year

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenda02.html

Holy shit I didn't realize it but yeah. He's oblitterating his career percentages. 45-46% on 5.5 attempts a game is damn good. And EFG% of 62% is career best for him, in his 10th year in the league. What a comeback from last year, where he shot basically league average 36% and EFG was under 50%. And starting every game it looks like. We gave away a huge championship piece for nothing!

[phxspurfan]

Toronto will offer him the max to keep him

No shit sherlock. The only real question is how long will it take for Uncle Dennis to convince him to take the big market fame so his family can accomplish all their media goals in Hollywood/NYC

[blah28]

The real question? Who cares what Uncle Dennis tells him to do, he isn't the most intelligent person around. He will give him bad advice like usual. Wherever he goes he will make a ton of money, albeit a lot less because of his Uncle but it is what it is. Whenever he retires he will have made between $200-300 million dollars playing basketball I don't think he cares too much.

[GusT15]

No shit sherlock. The only real question is how long will it take for Uncle Dennis to convince him to take the big market fame so his family can accomplish all their media goals in Hollywood/NYC

It should take about 2 minutes and 30 seconds.

Don't want to play Devil's advocate but seriously,can you blame him for going to LA if he does?

What's so attractive in Toronto that #2 would want to stay there? Their 33 year old second option? Their 34 year old third option? Their worthless coach? The lovely snow in Canada? Career wise? The weak East? Wait till KD goes East this summer and till the Bucks establish themselves as a legit contender and no more weak East.

Anyways,after he made the bitch move and left the Spurs,we don't really give a fuck where he goes but obviously,if we're talking basketball,the Clippers are a way better destination than the Raptors,big market and family goals aside.

[BackHome]

He is playing in the East off course he and Danny should have bettter stats just look at Lebrun