***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[Legacy]

when did paul george suddenly become "elite"?

When Uncle Denny told #2 he was, I guess. :lol

[FkLA]

I want the Spurs to beat this faggot so bad. I think it would've been very likely if that other faggot Morris hadn't reneged.

[rasuo214]

I mean he owed it to Spurs to get a better return, somewhat what PG got for OKC. Instead this fucked up chose to torpedoed Spurs chances by spewing all lies instead of being truthful.

That's PATFO own fault. Kawhi told them he wanted to play in LA, there are 2 teams in LA. Play them against each other to get a massive haul. That's what OKC did with PG. Instead stubborn old Pop made it clear they wouldn't trade him to the Lakers which eliminated a lot of the leverage.

[rasuo214]

when did paul george suddenly become "elite"?

He finished top 3 in MVP and DPOY last season, some would say that's "elite".

[weebo]

“You know, once I got together with my team and we put the pros and cons down, it was never about winning a championship,” Leonard said to Yahoo Sports. “It was about what the future has to hold. And for me, myself and my family, that's what type of decision I had to make. It’s no discredit to Toronto, I just wanted to play at home. I wanted to do that before I got traded there, and obviously when I got there, it was a goal of mine to make history and get them a championship, and I feel like I did my job there pretty much and that I should be granted to go play where I wanted to after I gave them what they needed. I just wanted to play at home. Like Paul said, our families are able to come to games. But just from my own thinking, it’s like we're in the NBA and I played eight years already. Eight years can fly by so fast, and we’re not able to do anything with [our families] eight or nine months of the season.

“So once the summer comes, you got three months to either go see family, train and do your other business obligations. There’s really no time to see them, to see your family. I love my family. Over the last five or six years, I’ll go back home and see my family, my nieces and nephews, and they’re talking, playing, shooting basketballs, and I’m like, ‘Dang, I missed all this. Y’all talking already. What? You’re doing this?’ So it’s like, ‘Man, where the hell have I been?’ It feels like you been in a matrix or something.

“For me, it was a family situation more so than a basketball decision. Basketball is going to be here long without me, so I feel like when we’re here, we just have to make sure we share it with our loved ones, and that’s one of the big reasons why I came to the Clippers.”

What bullshit :lol

[tonight...you]

If the timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) hadn't disabled the search functions all you spergs talking shit would be in thread after thread response after response in summer 2017 bitching about not trading for PG13. You were also in bitching about the Loyalty contracts to "the leader" aka towely towel waiver aka Patty and Gasol. You all posted about "PATFO, you suck. If I were Kawhi, I wouldn't waste my prime years...."

Here you have from the guy's mouth he went to PATFO requesting to GET RID of LMA and whatever remnants of the leftover Big three for a running made in PG13 and THEY DIDN'T do it.

For fuck's sake, the SPURG of this BBS is strong

lol

Who requested the disable of the search function?
Lol... damn dude.

[Legacy]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba/kawhi-left-raps-for-home-family-it-was-never-about-winning-a-championship/ar-AAEQLsb

[tonight...you]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba/kawhi-left-raps-for-home-family-it-was-never-about-winning-a-championship/ar-AAEQLsb
That's a good man...
I have tears. You see the tears? I have 'em.

[Dex]

If the timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) hadn't disabled the search functions all you spergs talking shit would be in thread after thread response after response in summer 2017 bitching about not trading for PG13. You were also in bitching about the Loyalty contracts to "the leader" aka towely towel waiver aka Patty and Gasol. You all posted about "PATFO, you suck. If I were Kawhi, I wouldn't waste my prime years...."

Here you have from the guy's mouth he went to PATFO requesting to GET RID of LMA and whatever remnants of the leftover Big three for a running mate in PG13 and THEY DIDN'T do it.

For fuck's sake, the SPURG of this BBS is strong

lol

Who requested the disable of the search function?

Arguing that LMA or DDR or BETTER than PG13, when not metric or sound basketball NAME would agree with you. LOL

Using the "disrespect towards 21" as a way distracting from the ABOVE.

lol

Was this community ever good?

Feel free to stop posting if you don't like it here.

[FkLA]

If the timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) hadn't disabled the search functions all you spergs talking shit would be in thread after thread response after response in summer 2017 bitching about not trading for PG13. You were also in bitching about the Loyalty contracts to "the leader" aka towely towel waiver aka Patty and Gasol. You all posted about "PATFO, you suck. If I were Kawhi, I wouldn't waste my prime years...."

Here you have from the guy's mouth he went to PATFO requesting to GET RID of LMA and whatever remnants of the leftover Big three for a running mate in PG13 and THEY DIDN'T do it.

For fuck's sake, the SPURG of this BBS is strong

lol

Who requested the disable of the search function?

Arguing that LMA or DDR or BETTER than PG13, when not metric or sound basketball NAME would agree with you. LOL

Using the "disrespect towards 21" as a way distracting from the ABOVE.

lol

Was this community ever good?

Shut up bro. The Spurs were legitimate contenders when PG was being shopped and they would've remained that for years if Nephew hadn't quit on them. It made no sense to break up that core for what was, at the time, a 1 year rental since PG made his intentions about wanting to play in LA clear.

[99 Problems]

when did paul george suddenly become "elite"?

Probably the moment Houston hung up after saying Harden’s going nowhere.

[duncan2k5]

Look up the stats on basketballreference...they were in their prime in 2012 or 2013 when nephew came on board. Not to mention they went to the WCF, Finals, Finals, WCF in 4 of his seasons with the spurs. #2 is retarded for making this comment.

He said at his age

[DAF86]

This bitch playing the "I just wanted to go home" card after trying to sell the idea that the Spurs pushed him out of SA. :lol

Yeah bitch, we all already knew there was nothing the Spurs could have done to keep you in San Antonio. Nice of you to finally admit it after playing the victim card.

And lol at the whole "going back home" bullshit, you wouldn't have asked to "go back home" if you had been born in Minnesota.

[99 Problems]

:lol

[Ozballer]

If the timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) hadn't disabled the search functions all you spergs talking shit would be in thread after thread response after response in summer 2017 bitching about not trading for PG13. You were also in bitching about the Loyalty contracts to "the leader" aka towely towel waiver aka Patty and Gasol. You all posted about "PATFO, you suck. If I were Kawhi, I wouldn't waste my prime years...."

Here you have from the guy's mouth he went to PATFO requesting to GET RID of LMA and whatever remnants of the leftover Big three for a running mate in PG13 and THEY DIDN'T do it.

For fuck's sake, the SPURG of this BBS is strong

lol

Who requested the disable of the search function?

Arguing that LMA or DDR or BETTER than PG13, when not metric or sound basketball NAME would agree with you. LOL

Using the "disrespect towards 21" as a way distracting from the ABOVE.

lol

Was this community ever good?

Didn't he go for KD first before scouting PG? Do you buy the rubbish that comes from this guy's mouth ? In his short sample of trades and negotiating with teams so for he has proven to be an un reputable shady snake. PATFO did the right thing if they did not follow this idiot.

[apalisoc_9]

Wait..if kawhi wants PG instead of LMA, the spurs should have aggressively pursued that.

[SpursDynasty85]

Shut up bro. The Spurs were legitimate contenders when PG was being shopped and they would've remained that for years if Nephew hadn't quit on them. It made no sense to break up that core for what was, at the time, a 1 year rental since PG made his intentions about wanting to play in LA clear.

Hmm. Now that you say it like that. He wouldve had a full year to recruit him back to LA. Imo, he always wanted to go back to LA.

[coachmac87]

This fool was “homesick”.

Since being homesick isn’t a legit excuse to force your way out of an organization....especially the Spurs and you’ve been winning (WCF Appearance). He literally played hooky to PATFO until they realized they were getting punk’d..

“It was never about winning championships”.


Wow..just...Wow

[timvp]

If the timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) hadn't disabled the search functions all you spergs talking shit would be in thread after thread response after response in summer 2017 bitching about not trading for PG13. You were also in bitching about the Loyalty contracts to "the leader" aka towely towel waiver aka Patty and Gasol. You all posted about "PATFO, you suck. If I were Kawhi, I wouldn't waste my prime years...."

Here you have from the guy's mouth he went to PATFO requesting to GET RID of LMA and whatever remnants of the leftover Big three for a running mate in PG13 and THEY DIDN'T do it.

For fuck's sake, the SPURG of this BBS is strong

lol

Who requested the disable of the search function?

Arguing that LMA or DDR or BETTER than PG13, when not metric or sound basketball NAME would agree with you. LOL

Using the "disrespect towards 21" as a way distracting from the ABOVE.

lol

Was this community ever good?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/fb/e8/67fbe850027b4ff6e16d2556dcc6a6ae.gif

Search has been back for weeks now, bra.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Search has been back for weeks now, bra.


:lol Derp!

[therealtruth]

He said prime at his age. I think Kiwi didn’t want to be in the big 3 shadow. I don’t know if that’s coming from him or Uncle Dennis because of the lucrative deals nor star treatment he couldn’t get.

Exactly. It's clear he's excited to play with someone close to his age at an elite level. Was any of the big 3 near his age?

[therealtruth]

Well, he lied about fake injury, so he could easily be lying about this.



Until the next CBA. It's going to be a bloodbath. Owners going to regain control, especially as Lebum's star fades.

I am not sure what owners can do. They keep shorting the max contracts. Doesn't seem to make that much difference.

[therealtruth]

That's PATFO own fault. Kawhi told them he wanted to play in LA, there are 2 teams in LA. Play them against each other to get a massive haul. That's what OKC did with PG. Instead stubborn old Pop made it clear they wouldn't trade him to the Lakers which eliminated a lot of the leverage.

That not trading with the Lakers worked out so well for Pop. Didn't he even try to get Dell Demps to not trade AD?

[duncan2k5]

This fool was “homesick”.

Since being homesick isn’t a legit excuse to force your way out of an organization....especially the Spurs and you’ve been winning (WCF Appearance). He literally played hooky to PATFO until they realized they were getting punk’d..

“It was never about winning championships”.


Wow..just...Wow

He didn't force his way out because he was homesick... The organization did him wrong and he said fuck it, I guess I'll go home

[venitian navigator]

He didn't force his way out because he was homesick... The organization did him wrong and he said fuck it, I guess I'll go home

can you be more specific on what they did ? looks that TIMVP has some info on that but none of us knows really what's all about...
From what he's now saying, looks like his will has always been to go to LA no matter what (and his behavior and choices confirms that).
From what Uncle said looks that there has been a lack of trust by spurs patfo that caused a lack of trust by n° 2 and his group...
I wonder what the hell are they talking about...they have been out of the game for 73 games despite being cleared by Spurs doctors and nba doctors (plus other 7/8 doctors of their choice), decided to play when they wanted, had complete control of all the medical situation thanks to the (wrong, imho) choice of patfo and they hide from the same patfo and did not consent to the same patfo to even look at the medical records ...lack of trust my ass...its the opposite.
There has been too much trust in a group of dishonest people...and no professional should be allowed to be paid millions (18 precisely) to not play at all, and no agent (or fake agent as uncle is) should be allowed to tease organizations like this...
That's the real problem nba has to face...because one thing is to say players have rights, but another is to say they have the right to do what they want against the same team and organization that is paying them...ask publicly for trades indicating just one preferred destination, faking injuries or create havoc inside the team (the way Jimmy Butler did with Minny) or decide to not play even when cleared by nba and teams doctors are unacceptable and unprofessional behaviors that have to be punished and punished heavily...and I mean with years of suspension from nba, to the elimination of the chance for the player to play for another team, till being banned from nba.

[apalisoc_9]

Both Reddit and Realgm Fan Poll has Kawhi Leonard as the best player in the NBA.

Crazy.

[spurs10]

He didn't force his way out because he was homesick... The organization did him wrong and he said fuck it, I guess I'll go home Yes that $20 million he was paid to rehab for an entire season was a terrible way to treat him.

[duncan2k5]

can you be more specific on what they did ? looks that TIMVP has some info on that but none of us knows really what's all about...
From what he's now saying, looks like his will has always been to go to LA no matter what (and his behavior and choices confirms that).
From what Uncle said looks that there has been a lack of trust by spurs patfo that caused a lack of trust by n° 2 and his group...
I wonder what the hell are they talking about...they have been out of the game for 73 games despite being cleared by Spurs doctors and nba doctors (plus other 7/8 doctors of their choice), decided to play when they wanted, had complete control of all the medical situation thanks to the (wrong, imho) choice of patfo and they hide from the same patfo and did not consent to the same patfo to even look at the medical records ...lack of trust my ass...its the opposite.
There has been too much trust in a group of dishonest people...and no professional should be allowed to be paid millions (18 precisely) to not play at all, and no agent (or fake agent as uncle is) should be allowed to tease organizations like this...
That's the real problem nba has to face...because one thing is to say players have rights, but another is to say they have the right to do what they want against the same team and organization that is paying them...ask publicly for trades indicating just one preferred destination, faking injuries or create havoc inside the team (the way Jimmy Butler did with Minny) or decide to not play even when cleared by nba and teams doctors are unacceptable and unprofessional behaviors that have to be punished and punished heavily...and I mean with years of suspension from nba, to the elimination of the chance for the player to play for another team, till being banned from nba.

U are talking about missing 73 games and Kawhi not vibing with the Spurs but not mentioning that it was how the Spurs behaved during all this that completely turned Kawhi off and made him not want to return to the team...

The Spurs were throwing public shade from pop, the upper management, the current and former players... All because they felt so strongly that they could win that year and send Manu and Parker off in a blaze of glory... The Manu and Parker angle clouded their judgement, and caused them to begrudgingly (according to reports) allow Kawhi to get his own doctors because he didn't trust the Spurs doctors as he felt they were rushing him out...

Them reports came out that the Spurs would tell Kawhi's team one thing to their face, then when they leave, they hear a whole different vibe when the Spurs go to the media... So on one hand the Spurs act like they all are in agreement and on the same page, but when the media talks to them, they act as if Kawhi went rogue...

It came to a point where Kawhi was so turned off that he didn't want to play for us anymore... And when that happened he just decided he might as well go play where his family is

[duncan2k5]

Yes that $20 million he was paid to rehab for an entire season was a terrible way to treat him.

Every player that gets injured gets paid their money still... Do u not know how the NBA works?

[John B]

Every player that gets injured gets paid their money still... Do u not know how the NBA works?
Plain and simple. He faked his injury. If he was homesick, he could’ve been more truthful and worked with the PATFO for a better haul of players from Clippers.

[John B]

He didn't force his way out because he was homesick... The organization did him wrong and he said fuck it, I guess I'll go home
Didn’t you read the article? He missed his cousins. 9 years passed, everybody grew up so suddenly, already talking, etc. he missed his family. He wasn’t truthful bruh, instead he played the injury game. Pop, I like to go home. I’ll commit to the Clippers and will get you Tobias Harris, Gilgeous-Alexander, 1st picks, etc. Fucking simple.

[coachmac87]

He didn't force his way out because he was homesick... The organization did him wrong and he said fuck it, I guess I'll go home

If he would’ve stayed in Toronto or signed elsewhere not in LA I could believe you. But how did the Spurs do him wrong? Because the whole player meeting and all the media BS was AFTER the Spurs realized he was full of shit...

The narrative is ass backwards and there’s a timeline to what happened but it seems people ignore it just so they can fit their narrative. I don’t have a problem with him wanting to go home..but don’t lie and sabotage the franchise and your teammates because you know the “homesick” card isn’t enough of a reason to justify you wanting out.

He was a Top 5 player then, just like he is now and they just got to the WCF. This isn’t like AD where he wanted out cause he wasn’t winning..he was winning in SA (WCF) and he just won a title in Toronto..

He literally said it himself it wasn’t about winning a title..he wanted it to be about family. But no he tricked his way out town and lied about it. Look at KD for example...you can literally make a case that the Warriors misdiagnosed him..he literally tore his Achilles because of it..he had every right to bash them and have that the reason to justify his actions..

But no...he kept it 100. Even if people didn’t agree of this reasons for leaving GSW he didn’t lie about it and try to manipulate the narrative. I respect that by KD and he really had an injury that the whole world saw, meanwhile Kawhi played hide and seek with an injury diagnosis that doesn’t justify missing 73 games.

[exstatic]

If he would’ve stayed in Toronto or signed elsewhere not in LA I could believe you. But how did the Spurs do him wrong? Because the whole player meeting and all the media BS was AFTER the Spurs realized he was full of shit...

The narrative is ass backwards and there’s a timeline to what happened but it seems people ignore it just so they can fit their narrative. I don’t have a problem with him wanting to go home..but don’t lie and sabotage the franchise and your teammates because you know the “homesick” card isn’t enough of a reason to justify you wanting out.

He was a Top 5 player then, just like he is now and they just got to the WCF. This isn’t like AD where he wanted out cause he wasn’t winning..he was winning in SA (WCF) and he just won a title in Toronto..

He literally said it himself it wasn’t about winning a title..he wanted it to be about family. But no he tricked his way out town and lied about it. Look at KD for example...you can literally make a case that the Warriors misdiagnosed him..he literally tore his Achilles because of it..he had every right to bash them and have that the reason to justify his actions..

But no...he kept it 100. Even if people didn’t agree of this reasons for leaving GSW he didn’t lie about it and try to manipulate the narrative. I respect that by KD and he really had an injury that the whole world saw, meanwhile Kawhi played hide and seek with an injury diagnosis that doesn’t justify missing 73 games.

If you're not blocking 2K5, you're doing it wrong. He's nothing but a troll that will keep you arguing the same point over and over.

[venitian navigator]

U are talking about missing 73 games and Kawhi not vibing with the Spurs but not mentioning that it was how the Spurs behaved during all this that completely turned Kawhi off and made him not want to return to the team...

The Spurs were throwing public shade from pop, the upper management, the current and former players... All because they felt so strongly that they could win that year and send Manu and Parker off in a blaze of glory... The Manu and Parker angle clouded their judgement, and caused them to begrudgingly (according to reports) allow Kawhi to get his own doctors because he didn't trust the Spurs doctors as he felt they were rushing him out...

Them reports came out that the Spurs would tell Kawhi's team one thing to their face, then when they leave, they hear a whole different vibe when the Spurs go to the media... So on one hand the Spurs act like they all are in agreement and on the same page, but when the media talks to them, they act as if Kawhi went rogue...

It came to a point where Kawhi was so turned off that he didn't want to play for us anymore... And when that happened he just decided he might as well go play where his family is

are you convinced of what you are writing?
Come on man...
Rushing him? He played just 9 games and only when he decided to...
He was allowed (its not his right) to take decisions just with his own medical staff after the Spurs staff cleared him.
He had to consult 9 doctors before having one that could confort I don't know what medical theory just for letting him do whatever he wanted...and don't tell me Spurs couldn't let him have the same "load management" he just had with Raptors...they allowed him to do whatever he wanted in the times he preferred...
He took the money but not the role and responsability that cames with it...and all the facts and clues are in the sense that he simply decided to go the hard way and not play anymore also if he could have...
Once cleared by doctors (not only Spurs doctors) he didn't have any right to feel disrespected for the simple fact that doubts were casted about the way he and his group managed the situation...
The "double standard" you are talking about the Spurs behavior is simply ridicolous...because, at least publicly, nothing offensive have been said apart express some logical doubt (by teammates too) about a medical and pain situation that was not only incomprehensible by usual standards but also impossible to check simply because he did not allow it to be checked...
These are facts, not "vibes" or opinions...

[MultiTroll]

But no...he kept it 100. Even if people didn’t agree of this reasons for leaving GSW he didn’t lie about it and try to manipulate the narrative. I respect that by KD and he really had an injury that the whole world saw, meanwhile Kawhi played hide and seek with an injury diagnosis that doesn’t justify missing 73 games.
So Durant left Twinkville to go to the Nets and Kwa left Tor to go to the Clippers.

How is it different?

Also I don't we have heard (or not heard) the last from Golden States diagnosis of Durant from Durant. Ultimately he signed off on their recommendation but sounds like it was a f'd recommendation. I though Durant already made some indirect comments??

[RD2191]

Kawhi should've just played out his contract and walked in free agency. At the end of the day I doubt SA was as bad as he made it out to be. I mean sure, maybe they weren't as aggressive as they could've been pursuing top talent, but that's probably the only knock you can make on this front office. By all accounts everything else is as good as can be. Professionals through and through. Kawhi bitched out, simple as that.

[coachmac87]

Kawhi should've just played out his contract and walked in free agency. At the end of the day I doubt SA was as bad as he made it out to be. I mean sure, maybe they weren't as aggressive as they could've been pursuing top talent, but that's probably the only knock you can make on this front office. By all accounts everything else is as good as can be. Professionals through and through. Kawhi bitched out, simple as that.


Well it seems the Spurs weren’t under the impression Kawhi was unhappy or getting PG was a must...I think it’s been stated that CP3 was their plan going into that offseason, but struck out and decided to run it back with the team that made WCF.

But from what I’ve heard Kawhi never talked or communicated his true feelings...hell even Toronto thought they had a chance even tho they damn well didn’t..

[coachmac87]

So Durant left Twinkville to go to the Nets and Kwa left Tor to go to the Clippers.

How is it different?

Also I don't we have heard (or not heard) the last from Golden States diagnosis of Durant from Durant. Ultimately he signed off on their recommendation but sounds like it was a f'd recommendation. I though Durant already made some indirect comments??

I’m just saying it was a discussion across the media once KD tore his Achilles...was he misdiagnosed or pressured back? People in the media were literally comparing it to the Kawhi-SA situation.

KD could’ve easily used that as his reason to leave GSW...but it wasn’t. His mind was set on leaving before the season and his mind was already made..but he kept it 100.

Meanwhile Kawhi BS’d his way out due to injury management.. got traded and was “treated great” with Toronto and won a fucking ring..yet he still left.

And then he finally confesses he just wanted to play at home. Also pretty much said family > rings as his priority..I mean I dunno what else has to be said for his true intentions to be shown.

[Dejounte]

Rehash upon rehash. This is a tired topic.

[baseline bum]

Seriously, one sub from Pop of Duncan away from what I'd probably say turns into the first Spurs repeat championship of the era.

Or one free throw from Autism. Go back and watch the end of the fourth and see the look of terror on Leonard's face as he's at the free throw line trying to seal a title.

[baseline bum]

If he missed his fucking family so much, why did he spend so much damn time in NY faking rehab from a non-injury?

:lmao

[weeks]

It was never about winning championships.

[rasuo214]

Or one free throw from Autism. Go back and watch the end of the fourth and see the look of terror on Leonard's face as he's at the free throw line trying to seal a title.

What was the Argentinian's excuse for also choking on the ft line and having 8 turnovers?

[spurs50_]

Kawhi can't take a piss without his uncle holding his pecker..

[TheGoatishere]

U are talking about missing 73 games and Kawhi not vibing with the Spurs but not mentioning that it was how the Spurs behaved during all this that completely turned Kawhi off and made him not want to return to the team...

The Spurs were throwing public shade from pop, the upper management, the current and former players... All because they felt so strongly that they could win that year and send Manu and Parker off in a blaze of glory... The Manu and Parker angle clouded their judgement, and caused them to begrudgingly (according to reports) allow Kawhi to get his own doctors because he didn't trust the Spurs doctors as he felt they were rushing him out...

Them reports came out that the Spurs would tell Kawhi's team one thing to their face, then when they leave, they hear a whole different vibe when the Spurs go to the media... So on one hand the Spurs act like they all are in agreement and on the same page, but when the media talks to them, they act as if Kawhi went rogue...

It came to a point where Kawhi was so turned off that he didn't want to play for us anymore... And when that happened he just decided he might as well go play where his family is

Or maybe the spurs knew what #2 and his camp were doing and that’s why they began calling him out ? Have you considered this possibly?

What about Jalen Rose reporting #2 wanted out before pop and company started making comments to the media ?

[phxspurfan]

Every player that gets injured gets paid their money still... Do u not know how the NBA works?

Everyone knows he was saving himself bc of his thigh owie. He just didn't want to declare himself out for the year as that would put red flags on his bid to get the SuperMax. It all changed when TP called his bitch ass out in public and the team turned on him in private. But in the beginning he was torn between wanting to go to LA (influenced by his uncle and sister who want to make the most money off him by managing him since he can't do shit but dribble a basketball), and wanting the SuperMax. But the thigh owie concerned him greatly, so he basically quit due to anxiety over reinjuring it. The docs looked at imaging and said there was nothing present, which made him even more anxious as they were basically calling him out that it was all due to individual pain tolerance (i.e. he's a pussy).

[azzkicker007]

U are talking about missing 73 games and Kawhi not vibing with the Spurs but not mentioning that it was how the Spurs behaved during all this that completely turned Kawhi off and made him not want to return to the team...

The Spurs were throwing public shade from pop, the upper management, the current and former players... All because they felt so strongly that they could win that year and send Manu and Parker off in a blaze of glory... The Manu and Parker angle clouded their judgement, and caused them to begrudgingly (according to reports) allow Kawhi to get his own doctors because he didn't trust the Spurs doctors as he felt they were rushing him out...

Them reports came out that the Spurs would tell Kawhi's team one thing to their face, then when they leave, they hear a whole different vibe when the Spurs go to the media... So on one hand the Spurs act like they all are in agreement and on the same page, but when the media talks to them, they act as if Kawhi went rogue...

It came to a point where Kawhi was so turned off that he didn't want to play for us anymore... And when that happened he just decided he might as well go play where his family is

Reports I've read said Kiwi kept telling the team I will be ready by this date. Then "this date" would come and go and no Kiwi. Repeat 3-4x and that's when the "ask kawhi's group" comment and the team meeting happened. After a while he left the entire team in the dark, even his teammates.

Also, can you source "Spurs would tell Kawhi's team one thing to their face, then when they leave, they hear a whole different vibe when the Spurs go to the media"

[azzkicker007]

If the timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) hadn't disabled the search functions all you spergs talking shit would be in thread after thread response after response in summer 2017 bitching about not trading for PG13. You were also in bitching about the Loyalty contracts to "the leader" aka towely towel waiver aka Patty and Gasol. You all posted about "PATFO, you suck. If I were Kawhi, I wouldn't waste my prime years...."

Here you have from the guy's mouth he went to PATFO requesting to GET RID of LMA and whatever remnants of the leftover Big three for a running mate in PG13 and THEY DIDN'T do it.

For fuck's sake, the SPURG of this BBS is strong

lol

Who requested the disable of the search function?

Arguing that LMA or DDR or BETTER than PG13, when not metric or sound basketball NAME would agree with you. LOL

Using the "disrespect towards 21" as a way distracting from the ABOVE.

lol

Was this community ever good?

You seem like a nephew fan. Just curious, can you defend #2 not sitting on the bench in the playoffs? I've never seen a player missing completely the way he was when his team is in the playoffs.

[FkLA]

Kawhi should've just played out his contract and walked in free agency. At the end of the day I doubt SA was as bad as he made it out to be. I mean sure, maybe they weren't as aggressive as they could've been pursuing top talent, but that's probably the only knock you can make on this front office. By all accounts everything else is as good as can be. Professionals through and through. Kawhi bitched out, simple as that.

Rocalcio

[gambit1990]

the year is 2032 and spurstalk still hasn’t moved on :rolleyes

[RD2191]

Rocalcio

:pctoss

[99 Problems]

The drive for 5—————————-00

[BackHome]

KY acted like a little bitch no way can you argue against that.

[Harry Callahan]

That's PATFO own fault. Kawhi told them he wanted to play in LA, there are 2 teams in LA. Play them against each other to get a massive haul. That's what OKC did with PG. Instead stubborn old Pop made it clear they wouldn't trade him to the Lakers which eliminated a lot of the leverage.

The Lakers played the "well he's coming here next year anyway. We have LeBron. Pound sand Spurs." The entire NBA lowballed the Spurs. A year ago makes a huge difference here. Boston, Lakers, Clippers should have come up with more at that time. #2 and the unc destroyed what the Spurs could get - on purpose. They wanted to make it a toxic environment by saying only two teams. Lies upon Lies upon Lies about the FO.

Once again. Will #2 play back to backs next season? Was that question asked or was the clipp event a dog and pony show.

The comments this week in LA are more words than the mute spoke his entire career in San Antonio.

[gambit1990]

Will #2 play back to backs next season?
he didn't last season and look how that turned out.

[Spur|n|Austin]

He didn't force his way out because he was homesick... The organization did him wrong and he said fuck it, I guess I'll go home

Shouldn't you be posting on a Clippers forum or something?

[apalisoc_9]

Named as the best player in the NBA by scouts, AND GMs

[gambit1990]

kawhi said he’d be at full strength this year.

if that’s the case then it’s game over.

[Kawhitstorm]

PG looks like sucking here. But him wishing Pacers kept the draft, and both developed along side? I doubt Kawhi being the player he is now tbh. I remember reading Pop giving Kawhi Kobe tapes to pattern his games, pushing him. Ungrateful bitch.

The Pacers under Bird developed Jalen Rose, Jermaine O'Neal, Al Harrington, Danny Granger, Paul George & Oladipo all of whom MIP (even turned Roy Hibbert into an All-Star) but keep sucking off Pop who can't get out of the 1st rd without MVP candidates.

[Kawhitstorm]

if kawhi's healthy then there's no way in hell the spurs are beating the clippers in playoffs, wtf :lol

PG/Kawhi/Beverely would put DeFrozen on suicide watch.

[Dennis the Menace]

Somewhere RC and Pop are drinking down their sorrows

[Kawhitstorm]

Kawhitter is the one who ghosted all his former teammates, so why are they the assholes? None of them need Uncle holding their hand for everything.

They quit in Gm 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Tv3p7Hoi0

[Kawhitstorm]

wow. i guess there's some truth to kawhi not fully trusting the talent PATFO was willing to put around him... hard to blame him knowing PATFO was willing to trade for a player like demar.

[Kawhitstorm]

Pretty sure Tony was still in his prime from 2011 - 2013. He really started to slide during the 2013 - '14 title run. So, he has played with "elite" talent before (Duncan was an elite defender until his penultimate season).

He was clearly talking about an elite 2-way player just like himself which Tim/Enrique weren't during the 2010s.

[Kawhitstorm]

Probably not at hard as they tried when they gave Mills 50 mill at 12:01 that summer.

And probably not as hard as they worked when they were asking Pau to sign for that 48 mill not long after.

[Kawhitstorm]

2012-2015 Timmy was still elite. Maybe not ultimate elite like he was in his prime but far away still elite. I still remember Timmy being far and away the best player in that 2015 Clippers series..

Yeah, I'm pretty sure '15 Tim was better than Blake or the State Farm agent in the '15 series.:downspin:

[spurraider21]

parker was pretty elite in kawhi's early years. he was getting legit MVP votes in 2012 and 2013

[Kawhitstorm]

I assume the LA media whores did not ask Nephew or Tom Rivers or half dead Jerry West or mental case Balmer if precious little #2 is going to play B2Bs for the first time in three years? POS #2.
https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif

[apalisoc_9]

parker was pretty elite in kawhi's early years. he was getting legit MVP votes in 2012 and 2013

2012 TP is better than 19 George

[Kawhitstorm]

I mean he owed it to Spurs to get a better return, somewhat what PG got for OKC. Instead this fucked up chose to torpedoed Spurs chances by spewing all lies instead of being truthful.

Maybe if they didn't ACTUALLY misdiagnose him then he would have left on better terms. It's not like dude wasn't out there limping after sitting out a season.:sleep

[Kawhitstorm]

That's PATFO own fault. Kawhi told them he wanted to play in LA, there are 2 teams in LA. Play them against each other to get a massive haul. That's what OKC did with PG. Instead stubborn old Pop made it clear they wouldn't trade him to the Lakers which eliminated a lot of the leverage.

[cjw]

parker was pretty elite in kawhi's early years. he was getting legit MVP votes in 2012 and 2013

Second team All NBA for three straight years (12, 13 and 14). He was elite. People forget that given how he fell off a cliff from 2014-2015 onwards.

[spurraider21]

2012 TP is better than 19 George
its close considering the 2 way impact PG has (parker was an average on-ball defender at his position)... but parker was really carrying the load on offense and truly was the engine. just watching him run that loop play over and over again was exhausting :lol

he was routinely shredding CP3 during those years too

[spurraider21]

Second team All NBA for three straight years (12, 13 and 14). He was elite. People forget that given how he fell off a cliff from 2014-2015 onwards.
honestly he fell off the cliff at some point during the 13-14 season. i dont remember if there was a particular injury, but he no longer had the explosion and became more of a ballstopper, and it was around the time kawhi really began to emerge, to the point where parker possessions became frustrating (and apa/harlem/fkla would start daily threads about parker :lol)

just dug up this gem :lol https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244933

he was still a good player but not the guy you wanted running the whole offense anymore. his decline going forward was pretty ugly. thats why getting his 3/43 contract right after the finals was disappointing. it was clear he was on a downward trajectory

for shits and giggles, there was this one too

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241040

[Kawhitstorm]

This bitch playing the "I just wanted to go home" card after trying to sell the idea that the Spurs pushed him out of SA. :lol

Yeah bitch, we all already knew there was nothing the Spurs could have done to keep you in San Antonio. Nice of you to finally admit it after playing the victim card.

If he didn't have any gripes such as being misdiagnosed & his only agenda was to end up in LA by all means necessary then care to explain why he didn't push his way out of Toronto instead of playing out his contract?

Not to mention he could have left as a free agent in the summer of 2015 instead, he didn't even considering singing with another team. Something tells me there was a mishap that caused the relationship to deteriorate.

All things being equal, he was going to sign in LA when he became a free-agent just like he did this summer but him asking out stemmed from the relationship being frosty rather than simply trying to force his way to LA like Davis.

Basically, if he hadn't been misdiagnose & PATFO hadn't doubled down by giving 100 mill to Fatty/Pau then he would have most likely played out his contract then moved on to LA.

[Kawhitstorm]

Second team All NBA for three straight years (12, 13 and 14). He was elite. People forget that given how he fell off a cliff from 2014-2015 onwards.

One way player & he was 9 years older than Kawhi......not quite his peer. Kawhi was basically a role player during that stretch & '14 was a legacy All-NBA nod (36 year old Evita was better).

[DAF86]

If he didn't have any grips such as being misdiagnosed & his only agenda was to end up in LA by all means necessary then care to explain why he didn't push his way out of Toronto instead of playing out his contract?

Not to mention he could have left as a free agent in the summer of 2015 instead, he didn't even considering singing with another team. Something tells me there was a mishap that caused the relationship to deteriorate.

All things being equal, he was going to sign in LA when he became a free-agent just like he did this summer but him asking out stemmed from the relationship being frosty rather than simply trying to force his way to LA like Davis.

Basically, if he hadn't been misdiagnose & PATFO hadn't doubled down by giving 100 mill to Fatty/Pau then he would have most likely played out his contract then moved on to LA.

lol "playing out his contract" in Toronto. One fucking season when he needed to save face after the shit he pulled in San Antonio.

[Kawhitstorm]

Didn’t you read the article? He missed his cousins. 9 years passed, everybody grew up so suddenly, already talking, etc. he missed his family. He wasn’t truthful bruh, instead he played the injury game. Pop, I like to go home. I’ll commit to the Clippers and will get you Tobias Harris, Gilgeous-Alexander, 1st picks, etc. Fucking simple.

:cryWhy didn't Kiwi tell Pop who to ask for in a trade b/c Drunkford is clueless? :cry

Anthony Davis basically sat out games while COMPLETELY healthy but that didn't prevent the Pelicans from getting a haul.:sleep

[Kawhitstorm]

Pretty much this.
Acting as if PG is all of a sudden a top 3 talent just cause Kawhi wanted to play with him. He's good no doubt, but building your team around PG won't get you far. Building your team around Kawhi and having PG as a co-star or whatever, thats a smarter move.

LMA was likely to be at least a finalist if Kawhi doesnt go down 2017. So yeah, this whole "Elite player" phrasing is just him trying to coddle PG since he's sitting right next to him when he says it.

They are both betas but Paul George is better than Softridge & is a better fit w/ Kawhi.

Paul George as a baby was going toe-to-toe w/ PEAK LeBron meanwhile Softridge in his PRIME was having shrinkage problems against Draymond.

Besides, Kawhi who is a better 2-way wing than Paul George?

Jimmy Butler is at best what Paul George was at Indiana & Klay never had to carry a team. Other than that it's guys like Khris Middleton.:lol

George looks like Jordan when he's sharing the floor w/ DeFrozen (the same guy ST folks are claiming is in his tier)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlFS6aylFgw

[Kawhitstorm]

lol "playing out his contract" in Toronto. One fucking season when he needed to save face after the shit he pulled in San Antonio.

Just like the one fuckin' trophy Miss can't win to "save face"

[Kawhitstorm]

If he would’ve stayed in Toronto or signed elsewhere not in LA I could believe you. But how did the Spurs do him wrong? Because the whole player meeting and all the media BS was AFTER the Spurs realized he was full of shit...

The narrative is ass backwards and there’s a timeline to what happened but it seems people ignore it just so they can fit their narrative. I don’t have a problem with him wanting to go home..but don’t lie and sabotage the franchise and your teammates because you know the “homesick” card isn’t enough of a reason to justify you wanting out.

He was a Top 5 player then, just like he is now and they just got to the WCF. This isn’t like AD where he wanted out cause he wasn’t winning..he was winning in SA (WCF) and he just won a title in Toronto..

He literally said it himself it wasn’t about winning a title..he wanted it to be about family. But no he tricked his way out town and lied about it. Look at KD for example...you can literally make a case that the Warriors misdiagnosed him..he literally tore his Achilles because of it..he had every right to bash them and have that the reason to justify his actions..

But no...he kept it 100. Even if people didn’t agree of this reasons for leaving GSW he didn’t lie about it and try to manipulate the narrative. I respect that by KD and he really had an injury that the whole world saw, meanwhile Kawhi played hide and seek with an injury diagnosis that doesn’t justify missing 73 games.

I'm pretty sure if Snake didn't LITERALLY rapture his achilles at mid-court you would have been claiming he "quit" on his team b/c he had his sight set on BK.:sleep
I guess Kiwi should have kept quite like loyal servant Iggy & only aired out their dirty laundry on his way out:clap

But please continue describing how MAD you are that Kiwi abandoned "your team":madrun

[TimmyBuckets]

These nephew ball fondlers must have a pretty sophisticated notification system cuz every time something negative (true) is said about kawitter, they're here faster than DePression's tears after the finals.

[apalisoc_9]

No such thing as kawho fanboys.

Its really just


Guys being critical with PATFO vs PATFO fans

[Kawhitstorm]

Guys being critical with PATFO vs PATFO fans

Can't wait what type of excuses the fluffers are going to pull out of their asses when the General comes home w/ Bronze, again.:wakeup
https://news4sanantonio.com/resources/media/d2b28e34-876b-4af8-9a44-88df1502e6b6-large16x9_pop.PNG?1544374374826

[KobesAchilles]

Meh Kawhi made the right move being traded. He cost himself 80 million but won a title, redeemed his reputation, and now has the narrative as the best player in the NBA. Not a too shabby a season for the claw.

He pulled a bitch move though. Kawhistorm trolls us by saying we misdiagnosed him, but he doesn’t even know what was wrong with Kawhi. Hard to claim Spurs misdiagnosed a person when we don’t know what is wrong with him (hell even Toronto didn’t know what was wrong with him).

Kawhi could’ve helped the Spurs out by coming to a mutual breakup. Instead he refused to speak to anybody in the organization (that was still paying him) and put out that he would only play for LA. Even though that came to be true, that significantly lowers his trade value. Add on his isolation and the fact that literally nobody knew what was wrong with him and it was the perfect shitstorm for the Spurs.

[John B]

Meh Kawhi made the right move being traded. He cost himself 80 million but won a title, redeemed his reputation, and now has the narrative as the best player in the NBA. Not a too shabby a season for the claw.

He pulled a bitch move though. Kawhistorm trolls us by saying we misdiagnosed him, but he doesn’t even know what was wrong with Kawhi. Hard to claim Spurs misdiagnosed a person when we don’t know what is wrong with him (hell even Toronto didn’t know what was wrong with him).

Kawhi could’ve helped the Spurs out by coming to a mutual breakup. Instead he refused to speak to anybody in the organization (that was still paying him) and put out that he would only play for LA. Even though that came to be true, that significantly lowers his trade value. Add on his isolation and the fact that literally nobody knew what was wrong with him and it was the perfect shitstorm for the Spurs.
I think he rang with the Spurs had he stayed, beating the injured Dubs and saved him millions of dollars doing so. I still think he’s Forrest Gump lucky and time would tell if he’s really that good when everybody’s healthy. I doubt it. I can’t wait for all the drama in LA after all the hype and hit him flat in the face.

[cpds421]

Just like the one fuckin' trophy Miss can't win to "save face"

So, you were a Spurs fan when Nephew was on the team? But you are going to follow him wherever he goes? That’s boring dude. Be a man and not a loser like your lover in the Clippbums is. Nephew is a bum

[therealtruth]

Can't wait what type of excuses the fluffers are going to pull out of their asses when the General comes home w/ Bronze, again.:wakeup
https://news4sanantonio.com/resources/media/d2b28e34-876b-4af8-9a44-88df1502e6b6-large16x9_pop.PNG?1544374374826

You think they will even get bronze?

[FkLA]

Can't wait what type of excuses the fluffers are going to pull out of their asses when the General comes home w/ Bronze, again.:wakeup
https://news4sanantonio.com/resources/media/d2b28e34-876b-4af8-9a44-88df1502e6b6-large16x9_pop.PNG?1544374374826

$1k

I got Pop and the US of A you got the rest of the field. Deal?

[spurs10]

$1k

I got Pop and the US of A you got the rest of the field. Deal? Sound of crickets I presume.

[spurraider21]

No such thing as kawho fanboys
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241040

[dbreiden83080]

:lol Kiwi still throwing jabs at Pop & Company
:cry No "front office pedigree" :cry

f1iBqeWfJ-c


He wanted to be in LA. So it was Lakers or Clippers nomatter what. Even if both Front Offices were shit..

[Kawhitstorm]

$1k

I got Pop and the US of A you got the rest of the field. Deal?

We got a deal if Greek god Timothy Quitter is on the squad:

https://advancelocal-adapter-image-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/image.advance.net/home/adv-media/width2048/img/newyorkupstatecom_national_desk_blog/photo/2016/08/12/20906318-large.jpg


"I'm about 95 percent certain my FIBA career is over"

[Kawhitstorm]

You think they will even get bronze?

Well, he did lead the '02 squad to 6th place:lmao
https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhoopshabit.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgetty-images%2F2016%2F08%2F51680501-reggie-miller-2nd-from-r-and-elton-brand-2nd-fr.jpg&c=sc&w=850&h=560

[John B]

If Olympics, they’d get gold.

[Spurs fever]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_vCxVgfBY

This dude always ragging on us.

[UZER]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_vCxVgfBY

This dude always ragging on us.

Win championships whenever there were not any dominant teams?

[FkLA]

We got a deal if Greek god Timothy Quitter is on the squad:

https://advancelocal-adapter-image-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/image.advance.net/home/adv-media/width2048/img/newyorkupstatecom_national_desk_blog/photo/2016/08/12/20906318-large.jpg

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[DAF86]

Well, he did lead the '02 squad to 6th place:lmao
https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhoopshabit.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgetty-images%2F2016%2F08%2F51680501-reggie-miller-2nd-from-r-and-elton-brand-2nd-fr.jpg&c=sc&w=850&h=560

What a pussy way of chicken it out, tbh.

[cpds421]

Kawhitstorm has to be the biggest nephew fanboy around here.
btw your lover doesn’t play for the Raptors anymore.

This thread has to move to the NBA forum tbh.

[ismael-robert]

Yes please

[Spurs fever]

Win championships whenever there were not any dominant teams?

He sees Pop as a white demon.

[99 Problems]

Wots with ancient alts insisting this go to nBa forum. Either go hang out there or don’t read this thread if it annoys you.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1l_rAXYonA

[EP Money Man]

I lose brain cells watching ESPN.

[phxspurfan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1l_rAXYonA

Wow what horrible analysis. So everything an organization does is to placate a media rumor/stance? It isn't perhaps about the organization itself making decisions about how it wants to be run? BSPN is so narcissistic I swear it's culture/CEO is probably some dude in a house full of mirrors.

[cd98]

Wow what horrible analysis. So everything an organization does is to placate a media rumor/stance? It isn't perhaps about the organization itself making decisions about how it wants to be run? BSPN is so narcissistic I swear it's culture/CEO is probably some dude in a house full of mirrors.

Eh, every news organization is always looking for some angle. I'm sure it is as boring as Tim knows Pop, he knows the system and culture, and he's been hanging around the team. He's bored so why not add a legend to the coaching staff. I'm sure it has nothing to do with Kawhi what so ever. I do think it's interesting that they "asked Manu first" as the news reports. I don't know that it was one or the other. I don't think the Spurs would disrespect Duncan by putting him second on the list behind Manu. And I'm sure Manu has a job the minute he decides he wants to coach.

[phxspurfan]

I don't think the Spurs would disrespect Duncan by putting him second on the list behind Manu. And I'm sure Manu has a job the minute he decides he wants to coach.

I think the FO was probing Manu about it even shortly after he retired, since he is so smart (bbIQ wise). I also doubt it would be one or the other, as they could have just brought him in as a consultant/advisor, like Timmy was to the bigs the last couple years.

[tmtcsc]

kawhi said he’d be at full strength this year.

"Yeah, for sure." :jack

[Dverde]

I think the FO was probing Manu about it even shortly after he retired, since he is so smart (bbIQ wise). I also doubt it would be one or the other, as they could have just brought him in as a consultant/advisor, like Timmy was to the bigs the last couple years.

I wouldn’t boost about his bbIQ. He did plenty of dumb ass stuff as a player. What I admired was his fearlessness and determination. I actually think Tony Parker would be a better coach than Manu.

[DAF86]

I wouldn’t boost about his bbIQ. He did plenty of dumb ass stuff as a player. What I admired was his fearlessness and determination. I actually think Tony Parker would be a better coach than Manu.

Whenever you think Manu might not be as smart as advertised, just go watch an off court interview to erase any doubt, tbh. Preferably in Spanish.

[RD2191]

I wouldn’t boost about his bbIQ. He did plenty of dumb ass stuff as a player. What I admired was his fearlessness and determination. I actually think Tony Parker would be a better coach than Manu.

TP is a douchebag tbh. Don't think he'd be a good coach.

[tmtcsc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1l_rAXYonA

Geezus, I'm dumber from having listened to that.

[Legacy]

He wanted to be in LA. So it was Lakers or Clippers nomatter what. Even if both Front Offices were shit..

He just wants to be coached by a black man, imo.

[Legacy]

He sees Pop as a white demon.

[TimmyBuckets]

He just wants to be coached by a black man, imo.


He sees Pop as a white demon.

Ya it sounds ridiculous, but I feel there is a growing feeling players have around the league that the coaches and owners represent slaveholders. That Simmons thing about him just wanting to play basketball and not hear shit from Pop about cultural respect and such got me thinking. It seems like Pop's pedigree and his outspokenness would make him exempt, but some might see him as "fake" or his opinions and speeches might even be considered irrelevant by the mere fact that he is white. It sounds ridiculous and it most likely is, but I after the Kaepernick thing especially, and with Lebron leading the player empowerment movement, I feel there is some tension between players and management.

[Spurs fever]

Ya it sounds ridiculous, but I feel there is a growing feeling players have around the league that the coaches and owners represent slaveholders. That Simmons thing about him just wanting to play basketball and not hear shit from Pop about cultural respect and such got me thinking. It seems like Pop's pedigree and his outspokenness would make him exempt, but some might see him as "fake" or his opinions and speeches might even be considered irrelevant by the mere fact that he is white. It sounds ridiculous and it most likely is, but I after the Kaepernick thing especially, and with Lebron leading the player empowerment movement, I feel there is some tension between players and management.

Has Pop ever been this out spoken with his politics since Trump got elected?

[BillMc]

He just wants to be coached by a black man, imo.

Isn't Doc only half black?

Uncle Dennis needs to take over.

[Legacy]

Isn't Doc only half black?

Uncle Dennis needs to take over.

I don't think so. His son, Austin Rivers is half white, though.

Uncle Fester taking over is already in the works, tbh.

[bklynspursfan]

Shout out to Dennis's mouth piece

1156328323208888320

[SPURt]

Shout out to Dennis's mouth piece

1156328323208888320
Good thing for Dennis that pass untied Cris’s tubes. Now they can get pregnant and Dennis can have child of his own to pimp out.

[duncan2k5]

If he would’ve stayed in Toronto or signed elsewhere not in LA I could believe you. But how did the Spurs do him wrong? Because the whole player meeting and all the media BS was AFTER the Spurs realized he was full of shit...

The narrative is ass backwards and there’s a timeline to what happened but it seems people ignore it just so they can fit their narrative. I don’t have a problem with him wanting to go home..but don’t lie and sabotage the franchise and your teammates because you know the “homesick” card isn’t enough of a reason to justify you wanting out.

He was a Top 5 player then, just like he is now and they just got to the WCF. This isn’t like AD where he wanted out cause he wasn’t winning..he was winning in SA (WCF) and he just won a title in Toronto..

He literally said it himself it wasn’t about winning a title..he wanted it to be about family. But no he tricked his way out town and lied about it. Look at KD for example...you can literally make a case that the Warriors misdiagnosed him..he literally tore his Achilles because of it..he had every right to bash them and have that the reason to justify his actions..

But no...he kept it 100. Even if people didn’t agree of this reasons for leaving GSW he didn’t lie about it and try to manipulate the narrative. I respect that by KD and he really had an injury that the whole world saw, meanwhile Kawhi played hide and seek with an injury diagnosis that doesn’t justify missing 73 games.

People were questioning KD's injury before he was an idiot and played...

Kawhi saying it wasn't about championships was referring to his move to LA... he would have simply sat out the playoffs since he was clearly hurt if he didn't care about winning...

According to ppl in the know, the Spurs did Kawhi wrong... And they were unaccustomed to players not bowing their head... Kawhi reached to a point after the disrespect that he didn't want to play for us anymore, and loyalists look at it as him just up and wanting out... U guys prefer players like Danny Green where Pop can tell the to "shut the fuck up" and they just bow their heads

[duncan2k5]

are you convinced of what you are writing?
Come on man...
Rushing him? He played just 9 games and only when he decided to...
He was allowed (its not his right) to take decisions just with his own medical staff after the Spurs staff cleared him.
He had to consult 9 doctors before having one that could confort I don't know what medical theory just for letting him do whatever he wanted...and don't tell me Spurs couldn't let him have the same "load management" he just had with Raptors...they allowed him to do whatever he wanted in the times he preferred...
He took the money but not the role and responsability that cames with it...and all the facts and clues are in the sense that he simply decided to go the hard way and not play anymore also if he could have...
Once cleared by doctors (not only Spurs doctors) he didn't have any right to feel disrespected for the simple fact that doubts were casted about the way he and his group managed the situation...
The "double standard" you are talking about the Spurs behavior is simply ridicolous...because, at least publicly, nothing offensive have been said apart express some logical doubt (by teammates too) about a medical and pain situation that was not only incomprehensible by usual standards but also impossible to check simply because he did not allow it to be checked...
These are facts, not "vibes" or opinions...

Simply not true... Spurs were doing it WHILE throwing shade... So it wasn't genuine

[duncan2k5]

I’m just saying it was a discussion across the media once KD tore his Achilles...was he misdiagnosed or pressured back? People in the media were literally comparing it to the Kawhi-SA situation.

KD could’ve easily used that as his reason to leave GSW...but it wasn’t. His mind was set on leaving before the season and his mind was already made..but he kept it 100.

Meanwhile Kawhi BS’d his way out due to injury management.. got traded and was “treated great” with Toronto and won a fucking ring..yet he still left.

And then he finally confesses he just wanted to play at home. Also pretty much said family > rings as his priority..I mean I dunno what else has to be said for his true intentions to be shown.

Ur mixing two things... AFTER he wanted out of San Antonio, he decided he might as well play at home... If spurs didn't do what they did, he would have still been a spur... I know it makes us feel better to say there is nothing we could have done, but that's not true

[duncan2k5]

Everyone knows he was saving himself bc of his thigh owie. He just didn't want to declare himself out for the year as that would put red flags on his bid to get the SuperMax. It all changed when TP called his bitch ass out in public and the team turned on him in private. But in the beginning he was torn between wanting to go to LA (influenced by his uncle and sister who want to make the most money off him by managing him since he can't do shit but dribble a basketball), and wanting the SuperMax. But the thigh owie concerned him greatly, so he basically quit due to anxiety over reinjuring it. The docs looked at imaging and said there was nothing present, which made him even more anxious as they were basically calling him out that it was all due to individual pain tolerance (i.e. he's a pussy).

No... The docs looked and said there WAS something, and the Spurs doctors ended up admitting there was... Ppl tend to leave that part out

[duncan2k5]

You seem like a nephew fan. Just curious, can you defend #2 not sitting on the bench in the playoffs? I've never seen a player missing completely the way he was when his team is in the playoffs.

I wouldn't have sat on the bench either... The franchise clearly didn't have my back

[Brazil]

We got a deal if Greek god Timothy Quitter is on the squad:

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in terms of being a faggot... you are reaching never seen levels tbh...

:lmao

you changed your team already ? 17 K posts of sucking Kawhi ass :lmao

[benefactor]

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[phxspurfan]

No... The docs looked and said there WAS something, and the Spurs doctors ended up admitting there was... Ppl tend to leave that part out

Yes, they took a second look and found a giant vagina.

[Brazil]

Yes, they took a second look and found a giant vagina.

:lmao

[99 Problems]

What it do baby......... what it do....

[dbreiden83080]

Ur mixing two things... AFTER he wanted out of San Antonio, he decided he might as well play at home... If spurs didn't do what they did, he would have still been a spur... I know it makes us feel better to say there is nothing we could have done, but that's not true

He was going to play out the deal like KD and leave.. He is exactly where he wanted to be. Rumors about LA started like 3 years ago..


Yes, they took a second look and found a giant vagina.

https://media.giphy.com/media/jOajZpCQZsBpZ47tNm/giphy.gif

[apalisoc_9]

Why you all hate kawhi so much? Just stop. The man is the best in the world.

[Texas_Ranger]

Why you all hate kawhi so much? Just stop. The man is the best in the world.

best in the world, but can't play a back to back.

[venitian navigator]

Why you all hate kawhi so much? Just stop. The man is the best in the world.

because he and his group tried to fuck at the best of their capabilities the team and organization you pretend to root for...ain't this enough for a fan of the team you pretend to be a fan of?

[phxspurfan]

best in the world, but can't play a back to back.

Or without another MVP candidate, apparently. But can play in broken ass New Balances because his uncle can't stand the best shoe brand.

[Dejounte]

because he and his group tried to fuck at the best of their capabilities the team and organization you pretend to root for...ain't this enough for a fan of the team you pretend to be a fan of?

He knows the answer. Its been said to him over and over. Dude is a bonafide troll who loves attention.

[RC_Drunkford]

Why you all hate kawhi so much? Just stop. The man is the best in the world.

2017 Kawhi was better than 2019 Kawhi

[phxspurfan]

2017 Kawhi was better than 2019 Kawhi

He'll definitely never do this again...we got the best out of him and his bum leg

AECuWJBq2CU

[Play Boban]

2017 Kawhi was better than 2019 Kawhi
Why don’t you tell Zaza that tbh?

[FkLA]

Watching that HOU clip is painful. I had already started calling him Kawhichael and comparing him to MJ by then, but that's the game when I was like "damn we truly do have the next MJ".

[UZER]

He'll definitely never do this again...we got the best out of him and his bum leg

AECuWJBq2CU

The lift on that three is not there anymore.

[Genovaswitness]

delusional homers ITT. kawhi has gotten better every year he’s played, last year included

[phxspurfan]

The lift on that three is not there anymore.

Also haven't seen this kind of explosion out of him in awhile. I think he's afraid of getting hurt

lpv4JPPTjhM

[gambit1990]

Also haven't seen this kind of explosion out of him in awhile. I think he's afraid of getting hurt

lpv4JPPTjhM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nDXSIoBWA

he said he'll be at full strength this upcoming season. we'll see what happens.

[gambit1990]

best in the world, but can't play a back to back.
can win finals mvp though.

[phxspurfan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nDXSIoBWA

he said he'll be at full strength this upcoming season. we'll see what happens.

He didn’t really get that high for that

[Texas_Ranger]

can win finals mvp though.

so can Andre Iguodala and still play back to backs.

Have fun being irrelevant from now on Toronto. I hope Kyle Lowry brings you to the playoffs.

[gambit1990]

so can Andre Iguodala and still play back to backs.

Have fun being irrelevant from now on Toronto. I hope Kyle Lowry brings you to the playoffs.
comparing iggy to kawhi is disingenuous.

also, i’m not a raptors fan now that kawhi isn’t on the team.

with that being said, raps are as relevant as the spurs. as least the raps have siakam.

[exstatic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nDXSIoBWA

he said he'll be at full strength this upcoming season. we'll see what happens.

He also said he’d be playing back to backs after New Years last season.

[kw780101]

Why you all hate kawhi so much? Just stop. The man is the best in the world.
Why do you pretend to be a Spurs fan? Just admit you are a player fan and cheer for the Clippers.

[J_Paco]

comparing iggy to kawhi is disingenuous.

also, i’m not a raptors fan now that kawhi isn’t on the team.

with that being said, raps are as relevant as the spurs. as least the raps have siakam.

The Spurs have a better young crop of players than Toronto. It is Siakam and a bunch of vets past their prime on Toronto. Gonna take a huge leap from Pascal (Nephew - esque) for them to even sniff the 2nd round. They should make the playoffs with how weak the east is.

[J_Paco]

delusional homers ITT. kawhi has gotten better every year he’s played, last year included

Wrong. He showed further consistency in being the #1 scoring option (at an elite/HOF level) but by any measure his defense (especially help defense) took a huge, huge hit. His rebound percentage was up, but his steal %, assist %, block %, WS, DBPM & VORP were all down from his last healthy season in San Antonio ('16 - '17).

Some of that can be blamed on (self imposed) rust, pacing himself and needing to exert more energy on offense. Another factor could be he isn't the same athletically with the chronic quad issue and he's lost some explosiveness. He still uses his wingspan, anticipation and smarts to be a plus on - ball defender and has learned to use bully ball (ala Prime LeBron & Carmelo) on offense (which compensates for his loss of hops).

He's also lucky LeBron is aging out of his prime, Durant suffered a career altering injury and Giannis still needs to add a reliable perimeter shot otherwise he wouldn't be in the conversation for "best player in the NBA." Anthony Davis could also take another step forward and quickly surpass Nephew. His grasp on the "best player" mantle is tenuous at best and likely short lived.

This is a great breakdown of Nephew (although I wish it was more in - depth on him):
https://youtu.be/93zief7g2Jk (Nephew's part is from 10:30 - 13:05)

[phxspurfan]

Wrong. He showed further consistency in being the #1 scoring option (at an elite/HOF level) but by any measure his defense (especially help defense) took a huge, huge hit. His rebound percentage was up, but his steal %, assist %, block %, WS, DBPM & VORP were all down from his last healthy season in San Antonio ('16 - '17).

Some of that can be blamed on (self imposed) rust, pacing himself and needing to exert more energy on offense. Another factor could be he isn't the same athletically with the chronic quad issue and he's lost some explosiveness. He still uses his wingspan, anticipation and smarts to be a plus on - ball defender and has learned to use bully ball (ala Prime LeBron & Carmelo) on offense (which compensates for his loss of hops).

He's also lucky LeBron is aging out of his prime, Durant suffered a career altering injury and Giannis still needs to add a reliable perimeter shot otherwise he wouldn't be in the conversation for "best player in the NBA." Anthony Davis could also take another step forward and quickly surpass Nephew. His grasp on the "best player" mantle is tenuous at best and likely short lived.

This is a great breakdown of Nephew (although I wish it was more in - depth on him):
https://youtu.be/93zief7g2Jk (Nephew's part is from 10:30 - 13:05)


While nice, that video has a drastic extrapolation (disregarding a lot of ADs season after the trade demand), and didn’t age well due to the injury to KD and the playoff explosion of Kawhi. Westbrook may be on the radar there at some point too, given he will be on a super duo team himself this year.

[Genovaswitness]

Wrong. He showed further consistency in being the #1 scoring option (at an elite/HOF level) but by any measure his defense (especially help defense) took a huge, huge hit. His rebound percentage was up, but his steal %, assist %, block %, WS, DBPM & VORP were all down from his last healthy season in San Antonio ('16 - '17).

Some of that can be blamed on (self imposed) rust, pacing himself and needing to exert more energy on offense. Another factor could be he isn't the same athletically with the chronic quad issue and he's lost some explosiveness. He still uses his wingspan, anticipation and smarts to be a plus on - ball defender and has learned to use bully ball (ala Prime LeBron & Carmelo) on offense (which compensates for his loss of hops).

He's also lucky LeBron is aging out of his prime, Durant suffered a career altering injury and Giannis still needs to add a reliable perimeter shot otherwise he wouldn't be in the conversation for "best player in the NBA." Anthony Davis could also take another step forward and quickly surpass Nephew. His grasp on the "best player" mantle is tenuous at best and likely short lived.

This is a great breakdown of Nephew (although I wish it was more in - depth on him):
https://youtu.be/93zief7g2Jk (Nephew's part is from 10:30 - 13:05)

tl;dr bullshit advanced stats and if my aunt had a dick she’d be my uncle-level hypotheticals. anthony davis has won one playoff series as a freak of nature big (Dwight Howard went to the finals), is injury prone, and is going to have to carry a terrible lakers team once ledecline is in full effect.

kawhi is the best player in the league now and will be for at least the next three years. he will win at least two more rings in his career and have at least another finals MVP. feel free to screencap/tag/whatever this post for future reference.

[YGWHI]

In 2015 most Spurs fans "best defender? who knows. Bruce deserved it more than him"

In 2019 the same fans. "best player? selected on 1st team of the decade? nah...Lebron KD blah blah blah"

Two years and I still wonder why most Spurs fans got mad after he left.

Granted, no one liked "how" he left but after all...only a few guys really liked his game in San Antonio.

On Spurstalk I can remember only 3-4 fans that really loved his game before the Unclegate.

I have no time now but I should post some vids about his series vs Bucks esp games 3 and 5. I doubt other player in this league can do the things that Kawhi did on both ends in those games.

[Genovaswitness]

In 2015 most Spurs fans "best defender? who knows. Bruce deserved it more than him"

In 2019 the same fans. "best player? selected on 1st team of the decade? nah...Lebron KD blah blah blah"

Two years and I still wonder why most Spurs fans got mad after he left.

Granted, no one liked "how" he left but after all...only a few guys really liked his game in San Antonio.

On Spurstalk I can remember only 3-4 fans that really loved his game before the Unclegate.

I have no time now but I should post some vids about his series vs Bucks esp games 3 and 5. I doubt other player in this league can do the things that Kawhi did on both ends in those games.

b-but he can’t jump like he did on a wide open putback dunk in the 2014 finals :lmao

[emmo]

Two years and I still wonder why most Spurs fans got mad after he left.

Granted, no one liked "how" he left.
You answered your own question right there.

[rjv]

In 2015 most Spurs fans "best defender? who knows. Bruce deserved it more than him"

In 2019 the same fans. "best player? selected on 1st team of the decade? nah...Lebron KD blah blah blah"

Two years and I still wonder why most Spurs fans got mad after he left.

Granted, no one liked "how" he left but after all...only a few guys really liked his game in San Antonio.

On Spurstalk I can remember only 3-4 fans that really loved his game before the Unclegate.

I have no time now but I should post some vids about his series vs Bucks esp games 3 and 5. I doubt other player in this league can do the things that Kawhi did on both ends in those games.

while i would argue there were more than a handful of those who thought of leonard as the next franchise player, i would agree that the general assessment of him was the he wasn't a top five player and would likely never be one. there were many who scoffed at his ball handling, his passing and his play in crunch time. but, there was also a pretty decent sized faction in here that thought he had not yet hit his ceiling.

[phxspurfan]

In 2015 most Spurs fans "best defender? who knows. Bruce deserved it more than him"

In 2019 the same fans. "best player? selected on 1st team of the decade? nah...Lebron KD blah blah blah"

Two years and I still wonder why most Spurs fans got mad after he left.

Granted, no one liked "how" he left but after all...only a few guys really liked his game in San Antonio.

On Spurstalk I can remember only 3-4 fans that really loved his game before the Unclegate.

I have no time now but I should post some vids about his series vs Bucks esp games 3 and 5. I doubt other player in this league can do the things that Kawhi did on both ends in those games.

People werent huge fans of him because we had legends on the roster. Kawhi, while great, was and will never be a Parker, Manu or Duncan to SA.









He also had/has the personality of a tomato and was not that likeable of a dude. And that was before his uncle bullshit.

[gambit1990]

People werent huge fans of him because we had legends on the roster. Kawhi, while great, was and will never be a Parker, Manu or Duncan to SA.

He also had/has the personality of a tomato and was not that likeable of a dude. And that was before his uncle bullshit.
:lmao such total bullshit.

spurs fan would've easily put him over tony if he had stayed in sa. and :lol no, nobody complained about his personality. people thought he was td 2.0 in terms of not caring about the press, not caring about being social, and only wanting to put work in. "not that likeable of a dude", gtfo, such revisionist history. we were enamored with him, and rightfully so, until things went south.

[r0drig0lac]

:lmao such total bullshit.

spurs fan would've easily put him over tony if he had stayed in sa. and :lol no, nobody complained about his personality. people thought he was td 2.0 in terms of not caring about the press, not caring about being social, and only wanting to put work in. "not that likeable of a dude", gtfo, such revisionist history. we were enamored with him, and rightfully so, until things went south.

this

[Rosewood]

Kawhi was my favorite player in the league. I legit thought he was the next TD for us.

I've never been more wrong about a player or a person.

I was over it last year and was rooting for him, I'd rather him win the next 4 titles if it means Lakers won't get one. And that's 100% honesty. Dude is super autistic and let his piece of shit uncle start handling affairs, he wanted to go home. It is what it is.

On the flipside, I don't think Spurs are quite as irrelevant and some of the crybaby bitch posters say around here.

[John B]

:lmao such total bullshit.

spurs fan would've easily put him over tony if he had stayed in sa. and :lol no, nobody complained about his personality. people thought he was td 2.0 in terms of not caring about the press, not caring about being social, and only wanting to put work in. "not that likeable of a dude", gtfo, such revisionist history. we were enamored with him, and rightfully so, until things went south.
But while both showed quiet demeanor, they stem from totally different behavior. Timmy genuinely despises the attention and let his actions speak for his work. He sacrificed fame and fortune to elevate the team. Kawhi is just the opposite. He is plain anti-social who cannot express himself emotionally without his uncle scripting his every word, while displaying his true a-hole side along the way, driven by money, despite their denials. He was banking on the big market to make-up for the lost salary and sales from Nike’s logo. A complete passive aggressive jackass.

[Dejounte]

Timmy's a real one. No one can say the same about Kawhitter. Not even his former teammates, Kyle and Serge.

[J_Paco]

While nice, that video has a drastic extrapolation (disregarding a lot of ADs season after the trade demand), and didn’t age well due to the injury to KD and the playoff explosion of Kawhi. Westbrook may be on the radar there at some point too, given he will be on a super duo team himself this year.

I meant as a breakdown of Kawhi last season and that he had his "best year ever" nothing more. Clearly, he proved (like the video stated) he's all - time great ISO scorer and on - ball defender but his game slipped in a lot of key areas (including help defense).

[J_Paco]

tl;dr bullshit advanced stats and if my aunt had a dick she’d be my uncle-level hypotheticals. anthony davis has won one playoff series as a freak of nature big (Dwight Howard went to the finals), is injury prone, and is going to have to carry a terrible lakers team once ledecline is in full effect.

kawhi is the best player in the league now and will be for at least the next three years. he will win at least two more rings in his career and have at least another finals MVP. feel free to screencap/tag/whatever this post for future reference.

You are beyond delusion, man. Giannis is 3 or 4 years younger, less injury prone and only needs to improve his shooting range to be the unquestioned best player in the league. Nephew and George aren't guaranteed good health and the Bucks & 76ers have a much, much easier route to the Finals.

Nephew is enjoying his moment on top, but that could easily end as soon as this season. But, no I'll let you continue to dick ride the traitor......

[Genovaswitness]

You are beyond delusion, man. Giannis is 3 or 4 years younger, less injury prone and only needs to improve his shooting range to be the unquestioned best player in the league. Nephew and George aren't guaranteed good health and the Bucks & 76ers have a much, much easier route to the Finals.

Nephew is enjoying his moment on top, but that could easily end as soon as this season. But, no I'll let you continue to dick ride the traitor......

“All Giannis has to do is change a massive part of his game at age 25” Yeah ok lol. Have fun in hypothetical land

[phxspurfan]

Don’t feed the apo trolls

[apalisoc_9]

Don’t feed the apo trolls

Its been confirmed by mods that I have two total account. One account has like 30 posts or something and that was when I forgot my password on my email.

Apo doesnt troll.

[phxspurfan]

Its been confirmed by mods that I have two total account. One account has like 30 posts or something and that was when I forgot my password on my email.

Apo doesnt troll.

R demure
Genovaswitness

(Likely) Other people that basically post the same drivel
Kawhitstorm
Ygwhi

Others fee free to add more to blacklist

[exstatic]

R demure
Genovaswitness

(Likely) Other people that basically post the same drivel
Kawhitstorm
Ygwhi

Others fee free to add more to blacklist

YNGWHI is Jabari Young.

[exstatic]

“All Giannis has to do is change a massive part of his game at age 25” Yeah ok lol. Have fun in hypothetical land

Jason Kidd, 3G% ages 26-30: .337 .297 .321 .341 .321

Jason Kidd, 3G% ages 34-36 .461 .406 .425

[phxspurfan]

YNGWHI is Jabari Young.

Right.


Apo also had another alt while his main was pinked, forgot what that one was.

[apalisoc_9]

How much you willing to bet on troll accounts?

300 dollars for each account you claim i owe. Payout is 500 dollars.

The 100 dollars goes to website managment.

Maybe timvp can allow it.

[rasuo214]

Jason Kidd, 3G% ages 26-30: .337 .297 .321 .341 .321

Jason Kidd, 3G% ages 34-36 .461 .406 .425

You realize that reinforces his point, right? I don't care how hard you work, going from a 25% shooter to a 35% shooter isn't an easy feat, especially since Giannis doesn't have a mid-range game either and guys with large hands have an even tougher time maintaining a consistent shoot.

[exstatic]

You realize that reinforces his point, right? I don't care how hard you work, going from a 25% shooter to a 35% shooter isn't an easy feat, especially since Giannis doesn't have a mid-range game either and guys with large hands have an even tougher time maintaining a consistent shoot.

His point was that you can’t learn new skills after 25, and I pretty much shoved that right up his ass by Showing a player who added skills after 30.

[phxspurfan]

How much you willing to bet on troll accounts?

300 dollars for each account you claim i owe. Payout is 500 dollars.

The 100 dollars goes to website managment.

Maybe timvp can allow it.

JakeCuenca. (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275910&highlight=apo)


Pay up fgt

[phxspurfan]

How much you willing to bet on troll accounts?

300 dollars for each account you claim i owe. Payout is 500 dollars.

The 100 dollars goes to website managment.

Maybe timvp can allow it.

and again. (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277934&highlight=apo)

umad?

[Dejounte]

Apa has no fucking life. Gagong pinoy

[rasuo214]

His point was that you can’t learn new skills after 25, and I pretty much shoved that right up his ass by Showing a player who added skills after 30.

The person he responded to said that's all Giannis had to do to become the best in the league, implying that it was easy to do. Which you just showed it isn't. By his 30s he may have developed that skill but his other skills will have likely diminished as well and it'd be irrelevant to who is the best next season or the season after.

[Genovaswitness]

Jason Kidd, 3G% ages 26-30: .337 .297 .321 .341 .321

Jason Kidd, 3G% ages 34-36 .461 .406 .425

jason kidd had a lot going for him that let him hang around until he was like 40. elite court vision, pnr skills, defense, none of which giannis has. kawhi is better than giannis now and always will be. wouldn't surprise me if kawhi was in the league longer than giannis tbqh

[J_Paco]

“All Giannis has to do is change a massive part of his game at age 25” Yeah ok lol. Have fun in hypothetical land

Umm, he's shown just as much hard work and dedication to his craft as your "idol," Nephew. If anyone is capable of taking the next step and surpassing Nephew, Durant and James that would be Antetokounmpo.

But, only an idiot like you would think he'll just stop improving now (when he's statistically improved every year of his career)......

[J_Paco]

The person he responded to said that's all Giannis had to do to become the best in the league, implying that it was easy to do. Which you just showed it isn't. By his 30s he may have developed that skill but his other skills will have likely diminished as well and it'd be irrelevant to who is the best next season or the season after.

No one said it was "easy to do" but Giannis has shown over the last 6 years that he has a drive and dedication that is rare (like Nephew). They are both self made and have worked hard to become elite. I wouldn't doubt that Antetokounmpo is capable of taking another step further.

I'll very own Tony Parker was a horrendous and inconsistent shooter from the perimeter his 4 or 5 yrs in the league, but eventually improved his mechanics and became a deadly pull - up mid range scorer (could never extend it consistently to beyond the arc). If Giannis can get to league average (34% or 35%) on a solid two or three attempts a night he'll be solid.

Much like LeBron in Miami (another guy with a "broken shot" that has improved after 25) it'll be about the threat of scoring outside (to open up driving lanes).

I guess the Spurs should trade Derrick White now since he's already 25 and can't possibly improve. Maybe rid ourselves of anyone else past that threshold since 25 is the new 30 to the Nephew knob slobbing crew.......

[Genovaswitness]

Umm, he's shown just as much hard work and dedication to his craft as your "idol," Nephew. If anyone is capable of taking the next step and surpassing Nephew, Durant and James that would be Antetokounmpo.

But, only an idiot like you would think he'll just stop improving now (when he's statistically improved every year of his career)......

whatever warped version of the NBA where a guy who relies entirely on his athleticism is going to suddenly start to learn to shoot at age 25 you want to believe is fine by me. Lebron is 35 and is declining. KD will never be the same. two opinions that align better with the universe we live in

Also Derrick white sucks and I hope his team USA shit is just enough to increase his trade value

[Dejounte]

Genovadouche has awful takes.

LeBron learned to shoot at age 24-26.

[J_Paco]

whatever warped version of the NBA where a guy who relies entirely on his athleticism is going to suddenly start to learn to shoot at age 25 you want to believe is fine by me. Lebron is 35 and is declining. KD will never be the same. two opinions that align better with the universe we live in

Also Derrick white sucks and I hope his team USA shit is just enough to increase his trade value

Your complete and utter lack of basketball knowledge is astonishing. If you really believe there is no nuance or skill involved with Giannis' game then you should stop watching basketball.

You can't be an elite NBA player (top 5) without any skill, dumb ass.

I'm done.....

Kawhi knob slobbers are beyond stupid in this thread, man.

[Genovaswitness]

Your complete and utter lack of basketball knowledge is astonishing. If you really believe there is no nuance or skill involved with Giannis' game then you should stop watching basketball.

You can't be an elite NBA player (top 5) without any skill, dumb ass.

I'm done.....

Kawhi knob slobbers are beyond stupid in this thread, man.

https://youtu.be/pYqJhoJaM4Q

extrapolate that for the rest of their careers

[J_Paco]

https://youtu.be/pYqJhoJaM4Q

extrapolate that for the rest of their careers

Wow, a shot blocker got dunked on! Amazing!

Again, you are so void of actual basketball knowledge you come with bullshit. Dignifying you with any further responses would be validating your stupid takes.

"OMG, (Nephew) da best cause he dunked on Giannis! He gonna be da best for years to come! Giannis is 25 and can't shot, duh, he don't got da skillz like (Nephew)."

"Derrick White 'sucks' cause he ain't got the cornrows or skillz like (Nephew). Damn, Spurs need to trade him for another guy who got the skillz like (Nephew)."

[Genovaswitness]

Wow, a shot blocker got dunked on! Amazing!

Again, you are so void of actual basketball knowledge you come with bullshit. Dignifying you with any further responses would be validating your stupid takes.

"OMG, (Nephew) da best cause he dunked on Giannis! He gonna be da best for years to come! Giannis is 25 and can't shot, duh, he don't got da skillz like (Nephew)."

"Derrick White 'sucks' cause he ain't got the cornrows or skillz like (Nephew). Damn, Spurs need to trade him for another guy who got the skillz like (Nephew)."

better than “I-if he believes he can shoot and be the best in the league!” :lmao

giannis is a longer grant hill. an ankle sprain away from being actual dogshit. kawhi has been the best player in the league since 2017, arguably 2016. everybody will forget about white once Murray comes back too

[ZeusWillJudge]

Say what you want to about Durant, but he's more of a man than Kawhi. He got asked straight up about his injury today, and this was his answer:



So we got straight to it. Did the Warriors mishandle the injury?Durant slowly straightened up with a perplexed expression on his face.“Hell, no. How can you blame [the Warriors]? Hell, no,” Durant told Yahoo Sports. “I heard the Warriors pressured me into getting back. Nobody never said a word to me during rehab as I was coming back. It was only me and [director of sports medicine and performance] Rick [Celebrini] working out every day. Right when the series started, I targeted Game 5. Hell, nah. It just happened. It’s basketball.”

[rasuo214]

No one said it was "easy to do" but Giannis has shown over the last 6 years that he has a drive and dedication that is rare (like Nephew). They are both self made and have worked hard to become elite. I wouldn't doubt that Antetokounmpo is capable of taking another step further.

I'll very own Tony Parker was a horrendous and inconsistent shooter from the perimeter his 4 or 5 yrs in the league, but eventually improved his mechanics and became a deadly pull - up mid range scorer (could never extend it consistently to beyond the arc). If Giannis can get to league average (34% or 35%) on a solid two or three attempts a night he'll be solid.

Much like LeBron in Miami (another guy with a "broken shot" that has improved after 25) it'll be about the threat of scoring outside (to open up driving lanes).

I guess the Spurs should trade Derrick White now since he's already 25 and can't possibly improve. Maybe rid ourselves of anyone else past that threshold since 25 is the new 30 to the Nephew knob slobbing crew.......

Lebron, Parker and Giannis all started playing at 19. Giannis is 6 seasons in and has only had 2 seasons where he shot above 30% from 3, Lebron and Parker had 5. If fact Lebron has only had 1 season where he shot lower than 30% in his career (rookie year) and Giannis wishes he could shoot as well as Lebron did during his Miami years (which is basically your goal for him).

Bottom line is Giannis' scoring ability outside the paint is pretty awful, it's possible and probably likely that he eventually gets better at it but that isn't something that just happens in a season or 2. Especially since he's 6 seasons in and still has nothing to show for it. By the time he realistically develops those skills his other skills will likely begin to diminish and they end up off-setting.


And before anyone compares it to Kawhi becoming a good 3pt shooter. Kawhi already had a decent midrange game and was a good FT shooter so he already had the foundation to improve and why the Spurs felt comfortable drafting him.

[Genovaswitness]

Lebron, Parker and Giannis all started playing at 19. Giannis is 6 seasons in and has only had 2 seasons where he shot above 30% from 3, Lebron and Parker had 5. If fact Lebron has only had 1 season where he shot lower than 30% in his career (rookie year) and Giannis wishes he could shoot as well as Lebron did during his Miami years (which is basically your goal for him).

Bottom line is Giannis' scoring ability outside the paint is pretty awful, it's possible and probably likely that he eventually gets better at it but that isn't something that just happens in a season or 2. Especially since he's 6 seasons in and still has nothing to show for it. By the time he realistically develops those skills his other skills will likely begin to diminish and they end up off-setting.


And before anyone compares it to Kawhi becoming a good 3pt shooter. Kawhi already had a decent midrange game and was a good FT shooter so he already had the foundation to improve and why the Spurs felt comfortable drafting him.

preach

[Yogatti]

https://i.imgur.com/KJQ3zCP.jpg

:tu

[Genovaswitness]

https://i.imgur.com/KJQ3zCP.jpg

:tu

b-but he isn’t the next Jordan :lmao

[jermaine]

Fuck Kawhi.... Seriously

[rjv]

:blah :blah
nephew's winning %-as if all by himself

[phxspurfan]

90% of posts in this thread by one dude and his alts. Pathetically bumping over and over due to his insecurity and need for attention

[GusT15]

90% of posts in this thread by one dude and his alts. Pathetically bumping over and over due to his insecurity and need for attention

I think it's time for a poll asking if the board wants to move this thread and all Nephew related news to the NBA Forum.

[widowmaker]

Hey i got the latest and greatest on kawhi!!!! Ill be back in 5 minutes with the up to date news!!!

[widowmaker]

Ok here you go the latest and greatest........... He no longer plays for the spurs he signed with the the clippers this summer!!! Shocking isn’t it i bet hardly anyone knew that but you heard it from me first. There lets move on and get back to spurs basketball.

[ismael-robert]

They say dont click on thread but honestly its disgusting seeing it constantly bumped n bolded on the first page

[phxspurfan]

I think it's time for a poll asking if the board wants to move this thread and all Nephew related news to the NBA Forum.

Created a poll. Go vote here:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280904

[phxspurfan]

They say dont click on thread but honestly its disgusting seeing it constantly bumped n bolded on the first page

Vote "I Wanna Going Home" / "Clippers Selfie Guy" off the Spurs Forum here:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280904

[Genovaswitness]

I don’t see how a thread about the third of fourth best spur of all time can ever be irrelevant tbh

[phxspurfan]

Your thread will be gone soon. Winter is Coming

[John B]

Keep waiting he’s gonna tear his acl or something... :lol:lol

[ace3g]

Kawhi golfing

B1UxeluFK0P

[Genovaswitness]

watch kawhi become an even bigger legend when he lets the corn rows free in LA

[99 Problems]

What it do baby...... what it do. :lobt2:GSW :rollin

[YGWHI]

Created a poll. Go vote here:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280904

I'm not an Apa's alt and barely post in this thread since last season started.

But last week I said I should post some vids about Kawhi's performances vs Bucks in game 3 and 5 because I can't remember a player being that dominant on both ends without other 2-3 All-Stars on his team.

Still don't have the time but someone tweets this from game 6 and I liked it.

1163209098395037697

[Genovaswitness]

I hope PATFO have this link etched onto every form of team correspondence as reminder of their failure and pledge to do well in the future

[Dejounte]

I'm not an Apa's alt and barely post in this thread since last season started.

But last week I said I should post some vids about Kawhi's performances vs Bucks in game 3 and 5 because I can't remember a player being that dominant on both ends without other 2-3 All-Stars on his team.

Still don't have the time but someone tweets this from game 6 and I liked it.

1163209098395037697

Your post has nothing to do with phxspurfan. Get mental help.

[koriwhat]

the prophecy has him being pushed into retirement by season's end. :lol

[John B]

I'm not an Apa's alt and barely post in this thread since last season started.

But last week I said I should post some vids about Kawhi's performances vs Bucks in game 3 and 5 because I can't remember a player being that dominant on both ends without other 2-3 All-Stars on his team.

Still don't have the time but someone tweets this from game 6 and I liked it.

1163209098395037697
I’m not hating nor bitter, but let’s wait for him to “dominate” a healthy West.

[Genovaswitness]

I’m not hating nor bitter, but let’s wait for him to “dominate” a healthy West.

he did that virtually every year he was with us. he's a lot better now and the west is kind of ass right now so I fully expect him to be in the finals next year tbh

[YGWHI]

I’m not hating nor bitter, but let’s wait for him to “dominate” a healthy West.
To be fair, the Bucks were better than most teams in the West last season.

Also, the Spurs were the only Western Conference team that could contain Kawhi in regular season because he had great games vs Warriors Blazers Utah Rockets Thunder..

I guess his season depends on his healthy not about the other teams. If he can stay healthy he can dominate and beat any team in the West.

[John B]

To be fair, the Bucks were better than most teams in the West last season.

Also, the Spurs were the only Western Conference team that could contain Kawhi in regular season because he had great games vs Warriors Blazers Utah Rockets Thunder..

I guess his season depends on his healthy not about the other teams. If he can stay healthy he can dominate and beat any team in the West.
I still think he’s Forrest Gump lucky.

[John B]

To be fair, the Bucks were better than most teams in the West last season.

Also, the Spurs were the only Western Conference team that could contain Kawhi in regular season because he had great games vs Warriors Blazers Utah Rockets Thunder..

I guess his season depends on his healthy not about the other teams. If he can stay healthy he can dominate and beat any team in the West.
I still think he’s Forrest Gump lucky.

[Yogatti]

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69359157_10157408449851877_6788832608949108736_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQlzahdGLSyXmOYLRkTgg513HrHKOgq6LdG3qeeT-nTp9k1Vt_tu9JGyXxwVqmZofxY&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=34bab0049ed2ca095f4a6ba58bb317b1&oe=5DD661B4

Such a great role model. :cry

[Yogatti]

https://twitter.com/LAClippers/status/1163874063963414529
https://twitter.com/LAClippers/status/1163877737372667909
https://twitter.com/LAClippers/status/1163933570118766592

[MultiTroll]

Such a great role model. :cry

Do you think he should have given out burritos to San Antonio Fan?
Could this be why many are bitter?

[Genovaswitness]

shit gotta get me a be great shirt

[Phenomanul]

https://i.imgur.com/KJQ3zCP.jpg

:tu

Manu Ginóbili held that title for 9 years (from 2006-2015) when Kawhi Leonard managed to reach his respective '250-game minimum games played' requirement.

[MultiTroll]

Apparently a local San Antonio politician is seeking a bill to force reparations from Kawhi for the lost season.

A deal could be worked out for 19 million dollars worth of burritos for Spur Fan.

[exstatic]

Apparently a local San Antonio politician is seeking a bill to force reparations from Kawhi for the lost season.

A deal could be worked out for 19 million dollars worth of burritos for Spur Fan.

You think you're funny, but you're not.

[exstatic]

Manu Ginóbili held that title for 9 years (from 2006-2015) when Kawhi Leonard managed to reach his respective '250-game minimum games played' requirement.

What kind of threshold is 250 games? That's barely over 3 seasons. Well, for a normal player, anyway. For Load Mgt, it's like 5 seasons.

[MultiTroll]

You think you're funny, but you're not.
But I am.

[MultiTroll]

You think
And I'm not laughing at your nor any other SpurFans (myself included) expense.
For those who shelled out dough for season tickets, single games, even those of us who invested time in games I am also majorly disappointed by the lost season and subsequent near disaster trade.

But until Media Person / Insider comes out with the whole story, it's incomplete. People can post and say all they want about how "this is what Kawhi and Uncle did for a fact." Not a fact. It's pure speculation. Until Media Person / Insider chooses to come out. Which I realize they may have their good reasons for not and won't ever. Thus it remains unknown what came down.

Lots like to make it a 100% Popped vs Kawhi deal, but I don't see that. Pop has said Kawhi was a great teammate and pooh poohed any talk of diva ness. I do think Pops derailing Kwas MVP season with having the offense switch to pouting LMA about touches did not sit well with Kwa and Uncle. Entirely justified. But that was gotten over and MVP Kwa lead a 22 point lead vs. the Golden Frauds. Myself I could see from a mile away that someone, and most likely either Zaza or Donkey Breath was going to try to take out Kwa. Pop didn't have enough street ball sense to see it coming. But then the 12:01 a.m. signing of Fiddy Paddy along with 48 Gasol had to have added to the rift.

[exstatic]

But I am.

A legend in your own mind...

[Slippy]

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69359157_10157408449851877_6788832608949108736_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQlzahdGLSyXmOYLRkTgg513HrHKOgq6LdG3qeeT-nTp9k1Vt_tu9JGyXxwVqmZofxY&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=34bab0049ed2ca095f4a6ba58bb317b1&oe=5DD661B4

Such a great role model. :cry

There's a quote out there from last season where Kawhi pretty much comes out to say I don't care about what fans think. It was eye opener because my first instinct was to think you had no bad feelings about leaving spurs fans. Also Isn't he a role model to all fans?

Keep on crying however. For some it's a coping mechanism.

[Gianna]

There's a quote out there from last season where Kawhi pretty much comes out to say I don't care about what fans think. It was eye opener because my first instinct was to think you had no bad feelings about leaving spurs fans. Also Isn't he a role model to all fans?

Keep on crying however. For some it's a coping mechanism.

That’s not what he said or what he meant.

[MultiTroll]

That’s not what he said or what he meant.
Exactly. :lol
SpurFan KwaHater is gonna find a way.

[John B]

This guy’s fake. He’s just following whatever market scheme his greedy uncle is concocting.

[Genovaswitness]

let’s get this thread to 500 pages boys. An eternal reminder of why players and NOT PATFO make the team

[Dejounte]

let’s get this thread to 500 pages boys. An eternal reminder of why players and NOT PATFO make the team

Youre fucking lame

The fact this abomination of a thread is still open after a majority of people who use this forum voted to close it is proof this website is poorly run and its whole vision and focus is to appease to these trolls and make money off of articles. It could be so much more if it was ran well. Instead, apa is the fucking mod and is treating this forum like his playground. Garbage.

[Genovaswitness]

Youre fucking lame

The fact this abomination of a thread is still open after a majority of people who use this forum voted to close it is proof this website is poorly run and its whole vision and focus is to appease to these trolls and make money off of articles. It could be so much more if it was ran well. Instead, apa is the fucking mod and is treating this forum like his playground. Garbage.

seek help

[Dejounte]

seek help

You seek help. Youve been doing this schtick for almost a decade. Why do you still live in your grandma's basement?

[Genovaswitness]

You seek help. Youve been doing this schtick for almost a decade. Why do you still live in your grandma's basement?

bro I have no idea what you’re talking about. keep it about kawhi

[exstatic]

Fuck load mgt.

[gambit1990]

who would spurs fans prefer to chip: lakers or clips?

[Genovaswitness]

who would spurs fans prefer to chip: lakers or clips?

"real" spurs fans still want to go scorched earth and shit all over our 2014 finals MVP

[spursparker9]

NBA Star Kawhi Leonard Back in Court Fighting Nike Over Alleged Design Rip-Off

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/nba-star-kawhi-leonard-back-204635207.html

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/QkC8Suxg42Y.NVsxUDtmRw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTEyNDI-/https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/theblast_73/4e039d0a983caf56953a7583c8f6ccd5

[benefactor]

Ahh the scorned ex-girlfriend that is ST...I'm sure this thread will remain at the top of the forum for at least the next year:lol

Little less than a m:lolnth away...never change, ST.

[manufan10]

Little less than a m:lolnth away...never change, ST.

As long as this thread remains open and Kawitter still has a career this thread will remain active.

[ZeusWillJudge]

NBA Star Kawhi Leonard Back in Court Fighting Nike Over Alleged Design Rip-Off

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/nba-star-kawhi-leonard-back-204635207.html





He writes, “To the contrary, the balance of California is where the key events underlying the allegations of the Complaint occurred"...etc.


LOL. Yeah, right. As if the fucking autist is able to write above a second grade level. Just like he could design a logo that looks better than a second grader's Thanksgiving hand turkey.

[exstatic]

Little less than a m:lolnth away...never change, ST.

Human nature. Just today, Kobe and Shaq still sniping at each other 15 years after they split.

[Genovaswitness]

kawhi is already a top 10 all time NBA talent and spurstalk still hates :lmao

[daslicer]

As long as this thread remains open and Kawitter still has a career this thread will remain active.

1 of 3 things has to happen for this thread to finally die.
1. Spurs win another title.
2. Spurs beat #2 in the playoffs.
3. #2 becomes washed up. This will happen eventually due to old age or some major injury does it.

[ismael-robert]

Or you people can stop posting in it