***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[spursparker9]

19 pts 6 rebs 5 asts 2stl 1 blk in 29min vs Phoenix !

[SpurPadre]

I first saw that he only logged 29 minutes and my first thought was that he tore his ACL...only to see that they played the Suns and was disappointed.

[skin27]

I first saw that he only logged 29 minutes and my first thought was that he tore his ACL...only to see that they played the Suns and was disappointed.


it was a close game until the 4th

[SpurPadre]

it was a close game until the 4th

Even though Booker was back, I still feel better about our win the other night because we aren't at full strength either. We straight up curb stomped them while the highly touted Raptors struggled despite being at full strength.

[skin27]

Even though Booker was back, I still feel better about our win the other night because we aren't at full strength either. We straight up curb stomped them while the highly touted Raptors struggled despite being at full strength.


Canaan did not play against us..

[SpursGenius]

I first saw that he only logged 29 minutes and my first thought was that he tore his ACL...only to see that they played the Suns and was disappointed.
You guys do realize he only played 29 min because he left early with foot issue. In other words his pussy was hurting so he
acted like it was referred pain to the foot. For Kawhi he gets referred pain in all parts of his body from his pussy.

[Fuck-Kawhi]

Fuck Kawhi

[SpurPadre]

You guys do realize he only played 29 min because he left early with foot issue. In other words his pussy was hurting so he
acted like it was referred pain to the foot. For Kawhi he gets referred pain in all parts of his body from his pussy.

Yeah, I created a thread about it only for it to get deleted. The fucking bitch immediately took himself out of the game only to walk around noemally after the game. This dude has no fucking balls.

[r0drig0lac]

Canaan did not play against us..

funny

[exstatic]

Now we just makes things up?

Did you read any of the materials from the Brian Elfus suit against Impact sports? Brian was his former agent.

[RC_Drunkford]

Kawhi has been known for not wanting to play with the littlest of pain. That's why I think he can't take a team to the finals

[SpursGenius]

I think the Pussy will play max 65 games

[RC_Drunkford]

(His body) feels good, just don’t want to overdo it too early since I missed out on a year, it’s just injury prevention, so just not playing back-to-backs for right now,” Leonard said (https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/raptors-will-continue-to-play-it-safe-with-kawhis-workload) after participating in an optional practice on Thursday. “We’ll see what happens and what they have on the menu but I’m pretty sure I’ll be playing (in Los Angeles),” Leonard said.

from injury management to injury prevention :lmao

[Harry Callahan]

That Nephew is a tone deaf, sheltered scumbag with no regard for his teammates. He missed a year a year by choice. I wish nothing but bad things for that guy.

[Harry Callahan]

This latest episode for the drama queen is THE REASON SA was not going to max this guy out. The "Group" is holding him out of games waiting for the move and the big payday. Coach Nurse by his comments is saying he has ZERO influence on his top player sitting out of games.
Nephew is such a sorry POS. My enjoyment of the NBA has been diminished the last couple of years with all this nonsense going on. Not only with the nephew, but a lot of the top level NBA players are basically jerks who have their insulated existence away from the fans that have supported them financially. Most of these star players in all likelihood have a wall built around their mansions - oh the irony.

[JPB]

Pop was carried by Coach Bud. No surprise that things went downhill after he left. Bud was the reason they even made the trade for Kawhi, otherwise Pop would have stood pat. Now look at what he's done with the Bucks.

And what has he done with the Bucks yet, exactly ?

We've seen what he's done with Atlanta where he's been fired from tho.

[BillMc]

Dray is already trying to get media on his side for it like he does. Apparently if he won it he could get super max, but who the fuck would let Dray take up that much of their cap? :lol

I hope he gets the DPOY just to cause problems for Dubs. Does Green resent it if he doesn't get the superMax? Does he leave? Do they somehow give it to him and raise their payroll even further. Green getting it is good for the rest of the league.

[sasaint]

I hope he gets the DPOY just to cause problems for Dubs. Does Green resent it if he doesn't get the superMax? Does he leave? Do they somehow give it to him and raise their payroll even further. Green getting it is good for the rest of the league.

Interesting observation. I think the Dubs will lose Durant and Klay and possibly Green.

[ducks]

Tim Bontemps
TIMBontemps
After sitting out half of each of Toronto’s first two back-to-backs this season, Kawhi Leonard will keep doing so — including this weekend against either the Lakers or Jazz.

“It's a long season,” Leonard said, “so we're thinking about the long road

[BillMc]

Interesting observation. I think the Dubs will lose Durant and Klay and possibly Green.

Would be shocked if they don't lose at least 1 of the 3 in the next two years.

[sasaint]

Would be shocked if they don't lose at least 1 of the 3 in the next two years.

I would bet 2 of 3.

[BillMc]

I would bet 2 of 3.

Hope you're right.

[daslicer]

This latest episode for the drama queen is THE REASON SA was not going to max this guy out. The "Group" is holding him out of games waiting for the move and the big payday. Coach Nurse by his comments is saying he has ZERO influence on his top player sitting out of games.
Nephew is such a sorry POS. My enjoyment of the NBA has been diminished the last couple of years with all this nonsense going on. Not only with the nephew, but a lot of the top level NBA players are basically jerks who have their insulated existence away from the fans that have supported them financially. Most of these star players in all likelihood have a wall built around their mansions - oh the irony.

I have felt this way about the superstar NBA players in the league for the last 7-8 years. In this era and beyond they are going to have Hollywood attitudes because the NBA is Hollywood. To me they are just like any other celebrity. I can appreciate their talent from afar but I can never like them. I still watch the league because I like basketball but not because I like the players.

[Realdeal1]

Klay to the Lakers with Kahwi
Durant to Knicks
Green to the Rockets

book it

[Leetonidas]

Pussy nephew resting less than ten games in after sitting on his ass playing Fortnite for the last year :lol meanwhile DeMVP is leading the league in mins :wow

[gambit1990]

https://image.ibb.co/mD1y7f/image-2018-11-03.png

[gambit1990]

if the raptors beat the warriors then that's pretty much a banner the spurs could've had...

[HarlemHeat37]

if the raptors beat the warriors then that's pretty much a banner the spurs could've had...

:lol

[vander]

I think the Pussy will play max 65 games

so you think he'll stay healthy all season?

[SpurPadre]

Kawhi with a finger cut:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CViJR9X7iRM&app=desktop

[slick'81]

Tor bending over backwards for their mvp

[sasaint]

Klay to the Lakers with Kahwi
Durant to Knicks
Green to the Rockets

book it

Don’t believe Number 2 (and especially Uncle Dennis) want to be in Lebron’s shadow. Not good for the brand. Number 2 will end up with Clips, Philly, Boston or Toronto. Klay and Lebron will team up on Lakers with some of their young guns.

[BatManu20]

Still thinks he's Laker bound tbh

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[skin27]

Kawhi..smh

[Laker_1995]

Still thinks he's Laker bound tbh

1058878479071109120

this nugga kawahi is so dead serious all the fucking time I believe he’s saying he’s not coming ��

[hooperflash]

I knew he didn’t like the Lakers, hence why I thought he’d be a Spur for life.

[daslicer]

Still thinks he's Laker bound tbh

1058878479071109120

This is too predictable. He's going to be a Clipper. TBH I think the Lakers are going to strike out on all the major big name FA's. Nobody wants to play with Lebron and deal with his drama.

[Immortal Spur]

This is too predictable. He's going to be a Clipper. TBH I think the Lakers are going to strike out on all the major big name FA's. Nobody wants to play with Lebron and deal with his drama.
Best case scenario for me. Toronto doesn't win the trade, the Lakers miss out and he goes to Clippers of all places lol

[daslicer]

Best case scenario for me. Toronto doesn't win the trade, the Lakers miss out and he goes to Clippers of all places lol

Agreed. With Balmer being the owner the Clippers are the ideal destination for a lot star players. They can be in LA and not have the pressure of it which comes with being a Laker.

[BatManu20]

Best case scenario for me. Toronto doesn't win the trade, the Lakers miss out and he goes to Clippers of all places lol

That would easily be the best case scenario, outside of him having a change of heart & coming back to San Antonio :lol. We all know that’s not happening though. I think he winds up with the Lakers, especially with Uncle Dennis is in his ear about the potential endorsement money he could make there and all that shit. Hope I’m wrong.

[daslicer]

That would easily be the best case scenario, outside of him having a change of heart & coming back to San Antonio :lol. We all know that’s not happening though. I think he winds up with the Lakers, especially with Uncle Dennis is in his ear about the potential endorsement money he could make there and all that shit. Hope I’m wrong.

It's always a possibility that he could go to the Lakers. I wouldn't be surprised if he does but I think he will go to the Clippers. The reasoning for this is first you gotta factor that Uncle Dennis is a pawn of the Suttons. The Suttons are a billionaire jewish family that runs impact sports which is the agency Kawhi is with. Originally there was a strong push out of these guys for Kawhi to be a Laker. I remember Cris Carter who is a mouth piece of Kawhi in the media pushing for Kawhi to the Lakers. That changed immediately the moment Lebron signed with the Lakers. I remember hearing Cris saying something along the lines and I'm paraphrasing "Kawhi wants to be in LA but that doesn't mean the Lakers. He respects Lebron but he wants his own team." Also factor in the Suttons don't like Lebron. There was a tweet a few years ago in which Sutton's son who runs impact sports insulted Lebron.

It really comes down to what the Sutton's want since Uncle Dennis is a pawn for them. It's funny when you think of it that Kawhi is a pawn of a pawn in this game.

[LCM]

It's always a possibility that he could go to the Lakers. I wouldn't be surprised if he does but I think he will go to the Clippers. The reasoning for this is first you gotta factor that Uncle Dennis is a pawn of the Suttons. The Suttons are a billionaire jewish family that runs impact sports which is the agency Kawhi is with. Originally there was a strong push out of these guys for Kawhi to be a Laker. I remember Cris Carter who is a mouth piece of Kawhi in the media pushing for Kawhi to the Lakers. That changed immediately the moment Lebron signed with the Lakers. I remember hearing Cris saying something along the lines and I'm paraphrasing "Kawhi wants to be in LA but that doesn't mean the Lakers. He respects Lebron but he wants his own team." Also factor in the Suttons don't like Lebron. There was a tweet a few years ago in which Sutton's son who runs impact sports insulted Lebron.

It really comes down to what the Sutton's want since Uncle Dennis is a pawn for them. It's funny when you think of it that Kawhi is a pawn of a pawn in this game.

Joseph Sutton, the son, 2014, called LeBron James a f*****t on twitter! Interesting we will go after athletes with dubious twitter or instagram timelines, Hadar in Milwaukee as an example. But we don't look at the agents or influence peddlers. There are screen shots of the exact tweet. I have it. Fairly easy to find. But, it's amazing how a Chris Carter, Stephen A, or Jalen Rose won't ask the question directly to KL or to anyone why KL is allowing himself to be represented by an individual, the top executive at his agency, who used a homophobic slur toward LeBron James? I guess with Get Up! and FIRST TAKE based in NYC, ESPN doesn't want to ruffle the feathers of a family werth between 3.6 to 5+ billion dollars, centered around NYC real estate. Uncle Dennis is KL's body man, and a paid employee of the Suttons. He is the Sutton's buffer, so people will look at him and not the Suttons. KL will go where THEY want him to go in the offseason.

[daslicer]

Joseph Sutton, the son, 2014, called LeBron James a f*****t on twitter! Interesting we will go after athletes with dubious twitter or instagram timelines, Hadar in Milwaukee as an example. But we don't look at the agents or influence peddlers. There are screen shots of the exact tweet. I have it. Fairly easy to find. But, it's amazing how a Chris Carter, Stephen A, or Jalen Rose won't ask the question directly to KL or to anyone why KL is allowing himself to be represented by an individual, the top executive at his agency, who used a homophobic slur toward LeBron James? I guess with Get Up! and FIRST TAKE based in NYC, ESPN doesn't want to ruffle the feathers of a family werth between 3.6 to 5+ billion dollars, centered around NYC real estate. Uncle Dennis is KL's body man, and a paid employee of the Suttons. He is the Sutton's buffer, so people will look at him and not the Suttons. KL will go where THEY want him to go in the offseason.

I doubt ESPN a 30 billion dollar industry is fearful of the Suttons but more so their interests coincide with the Suttons which is they want Kawhi in a large media market whether it's LA or NYC which is why they never wanted to get down to telling the actual truth. Clowns like Jalen,Cris, Stephen A are all just a bunch of paid shills. There was an interesting clip on youtube where Stephen A bitched about the Warriors Demarcus Cousins signing but the next day on ESPN said the complete opposite and told people to get over it. This should show you these guys are just a bunch of corporate whores.

As weird as it sounds what really tends to annoy me now is when Jalen screams the Spurs misdiagnosed Kawhi. Spurs have now way to defend themselves against this bs allegations simply due to HIPAA law. They can't say anything publicly about Kawhi's medical record to refute Jalen's claim because the law won't allow it. So Jalen is free to peddle this crap 24/7. I wish somebody would call out Jalen on this bs.

[J_Paco]

This latest episode for the drama queen is THE REASON SA was not going to max this guy out. The "Group" is holding him out of games waiting for the move and the big payday. Coach Nurse by his comments is saying he has ZERO influence on his top player sitting out of games.
Nephew is such a sorry POS. My enjoyment of the NBA has been diminished the last couple of years with all this nonsense going on. Not only with the nephew, but a lot of the top level NBA players are basically jerks who have their insulated existence away from the fans that have supported them financially. Most of these star players in all likelihood have a wall built around their mansions - oh the irony.

I see your point about Kawhi, but star athletes (in all sports) have had insulated, "sheltered, " spoiled and walled off lives at least since the 1980's. Once the salaries of the top tier guys began climbing in the 7 and 8 digits that was both a necessity and a choice.

Look how many athletes have been robbed, shot at or kidnapped home and abroad. Ican understand that it makes them less "relatable" but they are elite, premier athletes so really many stop being relatable (in a purely financial or athletic sense) in high school.

[J_Paco]

I doubt ESPN a 30 billion dollar industry is fearful of the Suttons but more so their interests coincide with the Suttons which is they want Kawhi in a large media market whether it's LA or NYC which is why they never wanted to get down to telling the actual truth. Clowns like Jalen,Cris, Stephen A are all just a bunch of paid shills. There was an interesting clip on youtube where Stephen A bitched about the Warriors Demarcus Cousins signing but the next day on ESPN said the complete opposite and told people to get over it. This should show you these guys are just a bunch of corporate whores.

As weird as it sounds what really tends to annoy me now is when Jalen screams the Spurs misdiagnosed Kawhi. Spurs have now way to defend themselves against this bs allegations simply due to HIPAA law. They can't say anything publicly about Kawhi's medical record to refute Jalen's claim because the law won't allow it. So Jalen is free to peddle this crap 24/7. I wish somebody would call out Jalen on this bs.

Exactly, and instead of letting the matter become even bigger and hurting/damaging the reputation of their medical and training staff entirely. They severed the relationship fully by not offering the super max extension knowing either that or Los Angeles was Kawhi's (representations) end game.

There is also the likelihood that Leonard pulls this stunt again when unsatisfied or happy about something in the organization (since he saw that his petulant behavior worked before).

[exstatic]

Exactly, and instead of letting the matter become even bigger and hurting/damaging the reputation of their medical and training staff entirely. They severed the relationship fully by not offering the super max extension knowing either that or Los Angeles was Kawhi's (representations) end game.

There is also the likelihood that Leonard pulls this stunt again when unsatisfied or happy about something in the organization (since he saw that his petulant behavior worked before).

If he earns the SuperMax again, Toronto might be tricked into offering it, only to have him resume his bullshit again trying to get to LA with all of the money, to boot. They absolutely must NOT offer the SuperMax with a no trade clause. Let him fucking walk if he won’t take the money without a no trade clause.

[Dverde]

If he earns the SuperMax again, Toronto might be tricked into offering it, only to have him resume his bullshit again trying to get to LA with all of the money, to boot. They absolutely must NOT offer the SuperMax with a no trade clause. Let him fucking walk if he won’t take the money without a no trade clause.

i don’t understand the logic of letting him walk over a no trade clause. He has already shown money isn’t the highest priority. If he signs with Toronto he probably wants to play atleast another partial year there. No one wants to go to Toronto. By retaining him as an asset, you could get something back for him like Ingram or Kuzma in a trade. Maybe draft picks.

[BackHome]

We got fucking lucky to get DEROZZ no one is going to give Raptors anything for KY. He is going to the Clippers and for some reason I think KD will end up in LA.

[Budkin]

We got fucking lucky to get DEROZZ no one is going to give Raptors anything for KY. He is going to the Clippers and for some reason I think KD will end up in LA.

This. We did as good as we could have possibly done.

[Immortal Spur]

kawhi out tonight

[daslicer]

kawhi out tonight

Surprised he would sit out this game since it's in LA.

[SpurPadre]

This. We did as good as we could have possibly done.

Except that Poodle sucks and extra baggage we didn't need.

[toki9]

If he earns the SuperMax again, Toronto might be tricked into offering it, only to have him resume his bullshit again trying to get to LA with all of the money, to boot. They absolutely must NOT offer the SuperMax with a no trade clause. Let him fucking walk if he won’t take the money without a no trade clause.

Is he even still eligible for SuperMax (I assume you're talking about designaed player exception)? I thought that only applied to the team that originally drafted the player or to the team to which the player got traded while still on his rookie contract? Can someone clarify?

[spursparker9]

Calling it now. He would sit out vs Spurs

[Kawhitstorm]

Surprised he would sit out this game since it's in LA.

He doesn't care about the Lackers

[loveforthegame]

Surprised he’s sitting out tonight. He’s always talked about how much he loves playing in front of his family and friends.

[Kawhitstorm]

Surprised he’s sitting out tonight. He’s always talked about how much he loves playing in front of his family and friends.

He's giving Magic the middle finger :claw

[Keepin' it real]

Surprised he’s sitting out tonight. He’s always talked about how much he loves playing in front of his family and friends.

Tendinopathy is a helluva thing.

[Dverde]

He's giving Magic the middle finger :claw

Isn’t he technically helping Magic by not playing. I guess it’s how you see it.

[tb5]

Kawhitter has a sore left foot 9 games in so he sits out...some things never change. Glad we got DeMar.

[LCM]

I doubt ESPN a 30 billion dollar industry is fearful of the Suttons but more so their interests coincide with the Suttons which is they want Kawhi in a large media market whether it's LA or NYC which is why they never wanted to get down to telling the actual truth. Clowns like Jalen,Cris, Stephen A are all just a bunch of paid shills. There was an interesting clip on youtube where Stephen A bitched about the Warriors Demarcus Cousins signing but the next day on ESPN said the complete opposite and told people to get over it. This should show you these guys are just a bunch of corporate whores.

As weird as it sounds what really tends to annoy me now is when Jalen screams the Spurs misdiagnosed Kawhi. Spurs have now way to defend themselves against this bs allegations simply due to HIPAA law. They can't say anything publicly about Kawhi's medical record to refute Jalen's claim because the law won't allow it. So Jalen is free to peddle this crap 24/7. I wish somebody would call out Jalen on this bs.

Like your thinking very much! If you've never heard it, listen to Tom Haberstrough's BACK to BACK podcast on July 5th, 2018. Michael C Wright of ESPN who covers the Spurs was interviewed. Wright said that the Spurs gave KL and his group (Uncle Dennis, Suttons! ) complete control of the rehabilitation process on Aug 8th, 2017. KL was coming off rehab of his injured ankle thanks to ZaZa, a 4 to 6 week injury. All the diagnosis over quad bruise or tendon, starting the Spurs recommend rehab, stopping rehab and wanting a second opinion, getting control of the rehab from the Spurs took less than a month and all before Aug. 8th 2017. The Spurs couldn't give details of Kawhi's rehab because they did not know! The group (Suttons, Uncle Dennis) weren't giving the details according to Wright! And the media again neglected to mention the truth of when KL wanted and got his second opinion. It wasn't in December or January! It was in August of the off season and not after he was done playing his nine game audition.

In the CBA of the NBA the Spurs could have had an impartial doctor and team designated by the NBA away from the Spurs and Kawhi's medical team examine KL 'injury'. But, what would be gained by being vindicated? What would the Spurs achieve by proving their star is committing 'fraud' through a false injury? The Spurs would still be on the hook for close to $20 million dollars for two years to a players we couldn't trade. We certainly wouldn't have gotten a quality player like DeMar DeRozen.

[sasaint]

Like your thinking very much! If you've never heard it, listen to Tom Haberstrough's BACK to BACK podcast on July 5th, 2018. Michael C Wright of ESPN who covers the Spurs was interviewed. Wright said that the Spurs gave KL and his group (Uncle Dennis, Suttons! ) complete control of the rehabilitation process on Aug 8th, 2017. KL was coming off rehab of his injured ankle thanks to ZaZa, a 4 to 6 week injury. All the diagnosis over quad bruise or tendon, starting the Spurs recommend rehab, stopping rehab and wanting a second opinion, getting control of the rehab from the Spurs took less than a month and all before Aug. 8th 2017. The Spurs couldn't give details of Kawhi's rehab because they did not know! The group (Suttons, Uncle Dennis) weren't giving the details according to Wright! And the media again neglected to mention the truth of when KL wanted and got his second opinion. It wasn't in December or January! It was in August of the off season and not after he was done playing his nine game audition.

In the CBA of the NBA the Spurs could have had an impartial doctor and team designated by the NBA away from the Spurs and Kawhi's medical team examine KL 'injury'. But, what would be gained by being vindicated? What would the Spurs achieve by proving their star is committing 'fraud' through a false injury? The Spurs would still be on the hook for close to $20 million dollars for two years to a players we couldn't trade. We certainly wouldn't have gotten a quality player like DeMar DeRozen.

You post too infrequently. You are a very good investigator; what are your basketball takes like?

[LCM]

You post too infrequently. You are a very good investigator; what are your basketball takes like?

They suck. ;) I like looking at data over time. Game by game basis I stink.

[spursparker9]

https://sports.yahoo.com/raptors-kawhi-leonard-sits-vs-lakers-foot-soreness-015640952--nba.html

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Kawhi Leonard is sitting out with foot soreness when the Toronto Raptors face the Los Angeles Lakers on Sunday night.

Leonard injured his left foot late in the fourth quarter of Toronto's win at Phoenix on Friday night, and coach Nick Nurse says the Raptors are being careful with their superstar.

The decision deprived Lakers fans of their only chance this season to see Leonard, who could be an unrestricted free agent coveted by their team next summer. Leonard grew up in Southern California's Inland Empire area, one hour east of Los Angeles.

Leonard is sitting out for the third time in his first 10 games with the Raptors. He missed two games last month, skipping half of two back-to-back sets.

[K...]

Would be really funny if kawhi only plays 9 games but they are front loaded.

[Mirrornick]

Lowry with 9 assists in the 1st quarter wtf and Ibaka wwith 18 pts lol..

[sasaint]

They suck. ;) I like looking at data over time. Game by game basis I stink.

:toast No different than anybody else on ST! :lol

[Immortal Spur]

lakers getting c l a p p e d to raptors wo kawhi :wow


edit: Lakers have made a habit of making me feel better after losses tbh

[gambit1990]

how long is he gonna sit out B2Bs?

[spursparker9]

Is he even on the bench??

[Mirrornick]

Is he even on the bench??

he never is the last 3 games he sat out. I don't like that tbh.

[spursparker9]

how long is he gonna sit out B2Bs?


“The plan is for a little while here to not let him play [both halves of] the back-to-backs,” [Raptors coach Nick] Nurse said. “I don’t think we’ve decided how long that’s gonna be yet. We’re going game by game.”

“I just wanted to get healthy,” said Leonard, who scored 19 points to go with 6 rebounds and 5 assists Friday night to help improve Toronto’s record to 8-1 this season. “I feel healthy now, and they just don’t want to rush into things. I don’t either. It’s a long season, so we’re thinking about the long road.”.

[313]

Danny Green was the bigger loss

[SouthTexasRancher]

KaWhitter is now KaWhitting on the Raptors. The Spurs are very lucky to have gotten DD when had we waited we might not have gotten a damn thing. I do wish we still had DG here for his defense. If DjM, DW and LW 4 had not been bit by the injury bug we might be hell on wheels in a good way.

[Hoops Czar]

KaWhitter is now KaWhitting on the Raptors. The Spurs are very lucky to have gotten DD when had we waited we might not have gotten a damn thing. I do wish we still had DG here for his defense. If DjM, DW and LW 4 had not been bit by the injury bug we might be hell on wheels in a good way.

They may be lucky to have DD but they're goiing to waste the next three years of his prime witb the PATFO's brutal roster construction and DD will be another disgruntled star player who doesn't want to be here and Spurs fans will blame the location and market size per the usual.

[JeffDuncan]

1. The Fakers got crushed.

2. The Faker fans were disappointed that they didn't get to see Kawhi vs LeBron.

Luck the Fakers. It's all good.

[Hoops Czar]

The Raptors are now what the Spurs looked like in 2012-14

[SouthTexasRancher]

They may be lucky to have DD but they're goiing to waste the next three years of his prime witb the PATFO's brutal roster construction and DD will be another disgruntled star player who doesn't want to be here and Spurs fans will blame the location and market size per the usual.

You could very well be right. One thing the Spurs can't keep doing is bringing in old guys whose career's are basically over and pay them star salaries and we then load up on one position and none of the four or five are real starters but, guys who can help get us into the first round but, get their asses handed to them if we make it to the 2nd round. I'd like to see both DW and LW 4 get real playing time when they come back to see if they are true keepers or not.

[daslicer]

They may be lucky to have DD but they're going to waste the next three years of his prime witb the PATFO's brutal roster construction and DD will be another disgruntled star player who doesn't want to be here and Spurs fans will blame the location and market size per the usual.

Spurs are not going to win a title in the next 3 years anyways the way things are set up. If Derozan decides to leave in 3 years I would be fine with it and understand why. Just like always a desperate pathetic troll look for a new shtick.

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs are not going to win a title in the next 3 years anyways the way things are set up. If Derozan decides to leave in 3 years I would be fine with it and understand why. Just like always a desperate pathetic troll look for a new shtick.
It would be very selfish of Pop and the FO to keep him around three years on fringe playoff team while chewing up three years of his prime. Pop needs to pick a lane already. Either keep DD and build a competitive roster around his star or trade him for lottery picks BEFORE the Spurs lose leverage. I don't really expect the Patfo to do the right thing though.

[daslicer]

It would be very selfish of Pop and the FO to keep him around three years on fringe playoff team while chewing up three years of his prime. Pop needs to pick a lane already. Either keep DD and build a competitive roster around his star or trade him for lottery picks BEFORE the Spurs lose leverage. I don't really expect the Patfo to do the right thing though.

Again who gives a shit. Your not a Spurs fan. Like I said before you are a troll trying desperately to find a new shtick.

If the Spurs are a fringe playoff team the next few years then so be it. It's still better than being a lottery team like you are suggesting. Demar is not a victim here. He still gets paid a ton of money and if he doesn't like it he's free to leave in a few years.

[Kori Ellis]

he never is the last 3 games he sat out. I don't like that tbh.

This is ridiculous. I've never seen a "star" not support his teammates when he's "hurt." It pissed me off last year, more than any of his other antics. Unless an injury dictates he can't sit, then why can't he sit for a couple hours, clap a few times, and pretend he cares about his team?

[Hoops Czar]

Again who gives a shit. Your not a Spurs fan. Like I said before you are a troll trying desperately to find a new shtick.

If the Spurs are a fringe playoff team the next few years then so be it. It's still better than being a lottery team like you are suggesting. Demar is not a victim here. He still gets paid a ton of money and if he doesn't like it he's free to leave in a few years.


DD is a victim here. He never wanted to leave Toronto. He went from a championship caliber team to a fringe playoff contender, only if a few playoff contenders shit the bed. And now, he's stuck with a hapless FO that's content with mediocre and a player who's in the middle of his prime wanting to contend for a championship. It's better to cash in your chips for lottery balls now rather than getting bitch slapped out of the first round of the playoffs, assuming they're that lucky followed by the next 5-10 years of lottery ball. Pop is more worried about his legacy than he is about the future of the team.

And YOU should give a shit if you call yourself a Spurs fan.

[daslicer]

DD is a victim here. He never wanted to leave Toronto. He went from a championship caliber team to a fringe playoff contender, only if a few playoff contenders shit the bed. And now, he's stuck with a hapless FO that's content with mediocre and a player who's in the middle of his prime wanting to contend for a championship. It's better to cash in your chips for lottery balls now rather than getting bitch slapped out of the first round of the playoffs, assuming they're that lucky followed by the next 5-10 years of lottery ball. Pop is more worried about his legacy than he is about the future of the team.

:lol at your desperate trolling. Who cares like I said before your not a Spurs fan. None of this should bother you.

[Hoops Czar]

:lol at your desperate trolling. Who cares like I said before your not a Spurs fan. None of this should bother you.
It should bother YOU and it doesn't. That's the scary part.

Also, this is the United States of America. I can be whatever I want to be, when I want to be and without your approval.

[daslicer]

It should bother YOU and it doesn't That's the scary part.

No it doesn't since I have been a fan of the Spurs since '94. I was a kid when I first became a fan and lived through the heart breaks of the Spurs losing to the Jazz and Rockets from '94-'98. I remember experiencing the horrible '96-'97 season and thinking at the time the Spurs were a million miles away from ever winning a title. Spur lucked out and got Duncan and the rest was history. I never took it for granted when the Spurs won titles during the Duncan era because I knew how hard they were to get. I got to see the Spurs win 5 titles in my lifetime that's more than many other fan bases will ever experience. To put it in perspective my younger brother is a Knicks fan who would just kill to have 1 title. I'm set for life with the 5 titles the Spurs have won. Anything else afterwards would be gravy. If the Spurs never win another title again in my remaining lifetime I would be fine granted I hope that won't be the case.

You are just a dipshit troll that needs to rub salt in people's faces 24/7. You are a sadist at heart. Last year was awesome year for you with the Kawhi fiasco but you are running out of shit to rile people up about. This year the majority of Spur fans have pretty much accepted that this team is not a contender. So what's the point of freaking out about this team losing? I'm sure you will bring up how great Toronto is doing this year over a million times but it won't mean shit if Toronto doesn't win the title this year.

[Hoops Czar]

No it doesn't since I have been a fan of the Spurs since '94. I was a kid when I first became a fan and lived through the heart breaks of the Spurs losing to the Jazz and Rockets from '94-'98. I remember experiencing the horrible '96-'97 season and thinking at the time the Spurs were a million miles away from ever winning a title. Spur lucked out and got Duncan and the rest was history. I never took it for granted when the Spurs won titles during the Duncan era because I knew how hard they were to get. I got to see the Spurs win 5 titles in my lifetime that's more than many other fan bases will ever experience. To put it in perspective my younger brother is a Knicks fan who would just kill to have 1 title. I'm set for life with the 5 titles the Spurs have won. Anything else afterwards would be gravy. If the Spurs never win another title again in my remaining lifetime I would be fine granted I hope that won't be the case.

You are just a dipshit troll that needs to rub salt in people's faces 24/7. You are a sadist at heart. Last year was awesome year for you with the Kawhi fiasco but you are running out of shit to rile people up about. This year the majority of Spur fans have pretty much accepted that this team is not a contender. So what's the point of freaking out about this team losing? I'm sure you will bring up how great Toronto is doing this year over a million times but it won't mean shit if Toronto doesn't win the title this year.

You think you've had it rough? Trying living through the great depression. When I was a kid, I didn't have transportation to school, I had to walk 2 miles barefoot in the snow. There was no internet, cell phone or HD TV to follow my favorite sports teams. I had two choices, I could attend the live sporting event in person or I could purchase something called a newspaper for a nickel. In the 60's, I became a fan of the Dallas Chaperalls and to a lesser extent the Kentucky Co!onels of the ABA. In that time, I became a huge fan of Charles Beasley and Bob Verga. And like you, I was very upset in 72-73 when the Chaps missed the playoffs but the following year, the Chaps moved to San Antonio and the Virginia Squires sold us Gervin for a mere $228, 000. The ABA tried to block the trade like the NBA did with CP3 however, the Spurs won in court and the franchise was changed forever.

A couple of years later, the ABA/NBA merger happened and a lot of people including myself were disappointed because we felt the ABA was just about ready to take off. And Yeah, there were some playoff disapppointments and no championships but it was more FO thing than Gervin. When your second and third best players on the team are Larry Kenon and Billy Paultz, you know your up shits creek without a paddle. So don't tell me about disappointments in the 90's you sanctimonious mook. At least, you had players like Sean Elliott, Vinnie Del Negro and Terry Cummings surrounding David Robinson. We would have killed for that type of talent in the 70's and early 80's.

[J_Paco]

They may be lucky to have DD but they're goiing to waste the next three years of his prime witb the PATFO's brutal roster construction and DD will be another disgruntled star player who doesn't want to be here and Spurs fans will blame the location and market size per the usual.

Sure, Cleo. Can you get me Tuesday night's lotto numbers too, please?

And calling one of the best front offices in NBA history "inept" constantly doesn't make it so. Do they make mistakes and sign/draft the wrong player? Sure, but they've also acquired/drafted 4 hall of fame caliber players and built an organization that every other team (including Golden State) aspires to be.

"Brutal roster construction" with limited resources ("poorest" owners in the NBA), annually drafting in the 20's and in a small media market. The Grizzlies, Hawks, Kings, Magic and Thunder sure did capitalize on their talent pool to come away with 0 championships......

[gospursgojas]

Is he even on the bench??

Think of a bitch made quitter cancer teammate and then give what you think the answer to this question is.

[gilmor2002]

This is ridiculous. I've never seen a "star" not support his teammates when he's "hurt." It pissed me off last year, more than any of his other antics. Unless an injury dictates he can't sit, then why can't he sit for a couple hours, clap a few times, and pretend he cares about his team?

Me first attitude. KL is never about his team-mates.. It's always about himself. This is getting more and more obvious.

I think you can do that in golf (Tiger Woods) or tennis (Djokovic). But in Bball,, it is inexcusable.

[ezau]

Kawhi has a degenerative disease and the Spurs medical staff figured it out last year. His group didn't like the findings, which is why they looked for other doctors for a second opinion. Kawhi's group also decided to burn bridges with North America's most respected franchise and find the supermax deal elsewhere. Toronto is dumb enough to trade their greatest player in DD and when everything's said and done, RC pulled another miracle out of this debacle. :lobt2:

[r0drig0lac]

Spurs are not going to win a title in the next 3 years anyways the way things are set up. If Derozan decides to leave in 3 years I would be fine with it and understand why. Just like always a desperate pathetic troll look for a new shtick.

even so, the roster construction sucks, where you pay a lot for players who do not have the physical or technical capacity (or both) to contribute to good teams.

[spursparker9]

Kawhi Leonard is leaving few clues about his upcoming free agency

LOS ANGELES -- When Kawhi Leonard was a kid growing up in Southern California, he was surrounded by Los Angeles Lakers fans. His adolescence matched the heyday of Kobe Bryant's tenure with the franchise, and his family -- like so many others in Riverside and other parts of the Inland Empire where he grew up -- was full of devoted followers of the purple and gold.

Leonard, though, wasn't one of them.

"I wasn't at all," Leonard said Saturday. "My family was, but I wasn't.

"I liked Allen Iverson, I was an A.I. fan, so I didn't like the Lakers."

It was a throwaway line at the end of a short, perfunctory postpractice interview -- one that, like virtually every such session Leonard is a part of, he dutifully worked to end as quickly as he could. But it also was a small window into the mindset Leonard has employed as he has lifted himself from being a high school star plying his trade 60 miles east of Los Angeles into the sport's best two-way wing player.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25182027/nba-kawhi-leonard-summer-2019

[Harry Callahan]

KL is the general manager of the Toronto Raptors this year - just like I posted previously. What a tool the Nephew is.

[RD2191]

Kawhi is a great basketball player, garbage and almost sad excuse of a man though. It is what it is I guess.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Kawhi Leonard is leaving few clues about his upcoming free agency

LOS ANGELES -- When Kawhi Leonard was a kid growing up in Southern California, he was surrounded by Los Angeles Lakers fans. His adolescence matched the heyday of Kobe Bryant's tenure with the franchise, and his family -- like so many others in Riverside and other parts of the Inland Empire where he grew up -- was full of devoted followers of the purple and gold.

Leonard, though, wasn't one of them.

"I wasn't at all," Leonard said Saturday. "My family was, but I wasn't.

"I liked Allen Iverson, I was an A.I. fan, so I didn't like the Lakers."

It was a throwaway line at the end of a short, perfunctory postpractice interview -- one that, like virtually every such session Leonard is a part of, he dutifully worked to end as quickly as he could. But it also was a small window into the mindset Leonard has employed as he has lifted himself from being a high school star plying his trade 60 miles east of Los Angeles into the sport's best two-way wing player.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25182027/nba-kawhi-leonard-summer-2019

Except Kawhi DID root for Kobe and Shaq growing up:

https://clutchpoints.com/raptors-news-old-video-kawhi-leonard-rooting-lakers-kobe-bryant/

[exstatic]

i don’t understand the logic of letting him walk over a no trade clause. He has already shown money isn’t the highest priority. If he signs with Toronto he probably wants to play atleast another partial year there. No one wants to go to Toronto. By retaining him as an asset, you could get something back for him like Ingram or Kuzma in a trade. Maybe draft picks.

A no trade allows him to refuse any trade that he doesn't want, which would be anything outside of LA. Imagine last year if we had already paid him, and didn't have the Toronto option on the table...

I'm not going to pay him the SuperMax for a partial year of causing problems. You're all in without a no trade, or you can take that reduced fucking contract which is all that the LA teams can offer, and lose more money that you already have. Toronto has decisions to make, and they're predicated on Kawhi staying or going, not sitting on the fence.

[sasaint]

You think you've had it rough? Trying living through the great depression. When I was a kid, I didn't have transportation to school, I had to walk 2 miles barefoot in the snow. There was no internet, cell phone or HD TV to follow my favorite sports teams. I had two choices, I could attend the live sporting event in person or I could purchase something called a newspaper for a nickel. In the 60's, I became a fan of the Dallas Chaperalls and to a lesser extent the Kentucky Co!onels of the ABA. In that time, I became a huge fan of Charles Beasley and Bob Verga. And like you, I was very upset in 72-73 when the Chaps missed the playoffs but the following year, the Chaps moved to San Antonio and the Virginia Squires sold us Gervin for a mere $228, 000. The ABA tried to block the trade like the NBA did with CP3 however, the Spurs won in court and the franchise was changed forever.

A couple of years later, the ABA/NBA merger happened and a lot of people including myself were disappointed because we felt the ABA was just about ready to take off. And Yeah, there were some playoff disapppointments and no championships but it was more FO thing than Gervin. When your second and third best players on the team are Larry Kenon and Billy Paultz, you know your up shits creek without a paddle. So don't tell me about disappointments in the 90's you sanctimonious mook. At least, you had players like Sean Elliott, Vinnie Del Negro and Terry Cummings surrounding David Robinson. We would have killed for that type of talent in the 70's and early 80's.

You must be as old as I am! :lol lots of parallels. I followed the Kentucky Colonels and Dallas Chaps, too. You gave me a swift trip down memory Lane. Wow, the Whopper!

I loved Ron Boone.

[slick'81]

Kawhi has a degenerative disease and the Spurs medical staff figured it out last year. His group didn't like the findings, which is why they looked for other doctors for a second opinion. Kawhi's group also decided to burn bridges with North America's most respected franchise and find the supermax deal elsewhere. Toronto is dumb enough to trade their greatest player in DD and when everything's said and done, RC pulled another miracle out of this debacle. :lobt2:

is this even true

[Kobe'sAchilles]

is this even true

It was reported that the Spurs said he had degenerative tendonitis that he would have to play with for the rest of his career. However Kawhi's camp took it as an excuse for the Spurs not to offer him the supermax and went to 8 different doctors to find an alternative diagnosis. 10 games into the season and with him already missing 3 of them, it's clear there is something still iffy about him.

[cd98]

Kawhi Leonard is leaving few clues about his upcoming free agency

LOS ANGELES -- When Kawhi Leonard was a kid growing up in Southern California, he was surrounded by Los Angeles Lakers fans. His adolescence matched the heyday of Kobe Bryant's tenure with the franchise, and his family -- like so many others in Riverside and other parts of the Inland Empire where he grew up -- was full of devoted followers of the purple and gold.

Leonard, though, wasn't one of them.

"I wasn't at all," Leonard said Saturday. "My family was, but I wasn't.

"I liked Allen Iverson, I was an A.I. fan, so I didn't like the Lakers."

It was a throwaway line at the end of a short, perfunctory postpractice interview -- one that, like virtually every such session Leonard is a part of, he dutifully worked to end as quickly as he could. But it also was a small window into the mindset Leonard has employed as he has lifted himself from being a high school star plying his trade 60 miles east of Los Angeles into the sport's best two-way wing player.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25182027/nba-kawhi-leonard-summer-2019

I do kind of think the whole "fan" of a "team" thing is overrated. The NBA doesn't sell teams, it sells star players. And its match ups no longer involve team rivalries. Now its all about stars. So the only relevance of the Lakers to Kawhi is probably that it is a professional team in his hometown. No different than the Clippers.

[JeffDuncan]

is this even true

It's true in the SpursTalk sense. No need to get technical.

[RC_Drunkford]

I think Kawhi is getting media training. I think he got media training by his uncle and his group last year. Everything he said in that 1 interview he did where they asked him about the "injury" seemed like he practiced it. They have him say these things on purpose

[FireMicoHalili]

Toronto performing well might cost someone in LA his job. Matter of passing the blame around.

[Joseph Kony]

lol am i tripping or do i distinctly remember this guy talking about how he grew up watching and idolizing the Lakers :lol

[SpurPadre]

Over and under this bitch plays 65 games this season?

[MVPCues]

Over and under this bitch plays 65 games this season?

I will take the under.

[exstatic]

I will take the under.
If the current paradigm continues, missing 3 of 10, he won’t even play 60 games. Under, FTW.

[gambit1990]

no kawhi again, wtf?

[gambit1990]

he’s listed as out with “left foot soreness”.

i wonder if it’s tendiopathy management...

[Play Boban]

He’s lazy
no kawhi again, wtf?

[JakeCuenca]

It was reported that the Spurs said he had degenerative tendonitis that he would have to play with for the rest of his career. However Kawhi's camp took it as an excuse for the Spurs not to offer him the supermax and went to 8 different doctors to find an alternative diagnosis. 10 games into the season and with him already missing 3 of them, it's clear there is something still iffy about him.


he’s listed as out with “left foot soreness”.

i wonder if it’s tendiopathy management...

Possible.

With tendiopathy its generally a play through pain scenario. The spurs tried their best to keep leonard and this was their medical solution. Which is is fine if he really does have degenrative tendiopathy.

Most medical journals suggest excercise and gradual increase of excercise is the best way to "treat" tendiopathy. Its not treatble but its about pain tolerance.

The spurs believed they can get him to 100% by making leonard accept the pain tolerance associated with tendiopathy.

Leonard and camp believe resting will solve it.

Most journals ive read so far suggest its not a treatable injury though and leonard will have to learn how to play with pain or he will never be the same again

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_zr5CFeO9o

lol Skip calling Kawhi a headcase again for not playing yesterday vs Lakers

[spurs10]

I'm not surprised he's not playing, I'm surprised people here are still talking about him. I don't have anything against Toronto fans, they are pretty cool, I just think he's not to be trusted and I'm super glad he's not here. If we aren't suing him it's not news to me. Of course he's sitting out and he's not sitting behind the team...he's bad news.

He's not called Number 2 for nothing!

[John B]

I'm not surprised he's not playing, I'm surprised people here are still talking about him. I don't have anything against Toronto fans, they are pretty cool, I just think he's not to be trusted and I'm super glad he's not here. If we aren't suing him it's not news to me. Of course he's sitting out and he's not sitting behind the team...he's bad news.

He's not called Number 2 for nothing!
True. The Kwitter has personal agenda.

[HarlemHeat37]

He can afford to sit as much as he wants during the RS, this Raptors team is frightening..

[Hoops Czar]

He can afford to sit as much as he wants during the RS, this Raptors team is frightening..
Remember when the Jazz were considered a top three team in the west? Good times.

[DAF86]

He can afford to sit as much as he wants during the RS, this Raptors team is frightening..

He's not doing himself any favours though. If he keeps this "rest 1 out of every 3 games" routine, more and more teams will start asking serious questions about his health and whether or not he's Indeed worth of getting franchise player money.

[ezau]

Health-wise he’s done and his camp knows it. His only goal for now is to sign a supermax with any team, play a bunch of games, and a call it a career before the season ends.

[Hoops Czar]

Health-wise he’s done and his camp knows it. His only goal for now is to sign a supermax with any team, play a bunch of games, and a call it a career before the season ends.

:lmao

[ezau]

:lmao :bobo

[spursparker9]

Report: NBA execs believe Kawhi Leonard prefers Clippers over joining LeBron James on Lakers

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-nba-execs-believe-kawhi-leonard-prefers-clippers-joining-lebron-james-lakers-032653770.html

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Dude just doesnt care about winning anymore. He's got one title and now he's going for personal achievements rather than team ones. He sits out without consulting the coach, he doesn't sit on the bench for his team when he isn't even injured (bc according to his camp its injury prevention lol), and he wont shut down any of these rumors of free agency. Great teammate tbh

[playblair]

kawhis wall

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrBw-fTV4AAuMIh.jpg

[RC_Drunkford]

Imagine paying this idiot 220 million for only playing 60-70% of the games. Spurs were smart not to offer him the supermax and if he doesn't play enough games to get All-NBA/DPOY considerations he won't be eligable for it next year either

[cutewizard]

Kawhi cannot defend the following players........

Shaq

Wilt

Kareem

MJ

Julius

Hakeem

Sabonis

And Ramon Fernandez

[SAGirl]

(His body) feels good, just don’t want to overdo it too early since I missed out on a year, it’s just injury prevention, so just not playing back-to-backs for right now,” Leonard said (https://torontosun.com/sports/basketball/nba/toronto-raptors/raptors-will-continue-to-play-it-safe-with-kawhis-workload) after participating in an optional practice on Thursday. “We’ll see what happens and what they have on the menu but I’m pretty sure I’ll be playing (in Los Angeles),” Leonard said.

from injury management to injury prevention :lmao
“What they have on the menu”..... wow

injury prevention sounds like someone who isn’t injured.
injury management sounds very different.

[SAGirl]

Health-wise he’s done and his camp knows it. His only goal for now is to sign a supermax with any team, play a bunch of games, and a call it a career before the season ends.
That sounds like the plan... if his career is going to be shortened by the injury anyways and he’s going to be unpredictable in terms of whether he can play or not through some pain.

[Ginobilly]

:lol
Like I've always said during the kawhi shitshow last year. Kawhi embodies the millinial/generation z mindset. Only work when you want to, call in sick, no call no show, can't take constructive criticism, if you talk shit runs away to his safe place in his tios house, etc. He's worse than the lost hikkokimori kids of Japan. I don't know how japanese parents put up with this shit! I would fucking drag their ass outta bed and send em to work construction or something with their uncle or dad.

[Brazil]

This is ridiculous. I've never seen a "star" not support his teammates when he's "hurt." It pissed me off last year, more than any of his other antics. Unless an injury dictates he can't sit, then why can't he sit for a couple hours, clap a few times, and pretend he cares about his team?

agree, for me this was the worst...

[Ginobilly]

And his kiwi fanbois could always use the kawhi has "austism" card to excuse him from his team obligations too.:lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

sayin he was a AI fan, bet yah he celebrate like most antikirby fans when he went colorado

[gambit1990]

2019 MVP & FMVP if he can manage to be healthy...

[Ice009]

I thought it was the Raptors that are sitting him out? Is this coming from Kawhi and his camp? Is Nick Nurse not making the decisions on what games he sits out?

[Mirrornick]

I thought it was the Raptors that are sitting him out? Is this coming from Kawhi and his camp? Is Nick Nurse not making the decisions on what games he sits out?

Raptors are basically coddling Kawhi and his camp(uncle) at this point. What is extremely weird to me is how Kawhi doesn't even sit on the bench with the team when he's not playing. I have never seen something like this before. He shows up to practice with the team but then is no where to be found during the actual game. The raptors are not even talking about it as they don't want to get on his bad side I guess. They just hope he shows up in the playoffs at this point.

[Immortal Spur]

Raptors are basically coddling Kawhi and his camp(uncle) at this point. What is extremely weird to me is how Kawhi doesn't even sit on the bench with the team when he's not playing. I have never seen something like this before. He shows up to practice with the team but then is no where to be found during the actual game. The raptors are not even talking about it as they don't want to get on his bad side I guess. They just hope he shows up in the playoffs at this point.
Well if you watched the Spurs last year.., he did it then. Good luck with the resign bruh...

[Mirrornick]

Well if you watched the Spurs last year.., he did it then. Good luck with the resign bruh...

well tbh I don't care if he re-signs or not. If he doesn't re-sign then i'm going to laugh at all the delusional raptors fans. If he re signs then well good. I'm just glad that DeRozan was trade to the Spurs. He has a lot of years left in his prime and will be an MVP candidate for a long long time. Future is bright I believe so.

[Kawhi_6rings]

Ok skip bayless.
REMIND HOW HE MADE LMA LOOK LIKE AN ROLE PLAYER

[daslicer]

well tbh I don't care if he re-signs or not. If he doesn't re-sign then i'm going to laugh at all the delusional raptors fans. If he re signs then well good. I'm just glad that DeRozan was trade to the Spurs. He has a lot of years left in his prime and will be an MVP candidate for a long long time. Future is bright I believe so.

No offense but I hate the Raptor fan base. They are arguably the second most annoying fan base after Laker fans. Granted I'm judging them by what I have seen on Realgm. I will be sure to troll the hell out of them on realgm when Kawhi leaves and when the Raptors get eliminated. The strikes and possible ban will be worth it.

[gambit1990]

is he playing today?

[SpurPadre]

No offense but I hate the Raptor fan base. They are arguably the second most annoying fan base after Laker fans. Granted I'm judging them by what I have seen on Realgm. I will be sure to troll the hell out of them on realgm when Kawhi leaves and when the Raptors get eliminated. The strikes and possible ban will be worth it.

It's just Drake that annoys me. Fake ass fan, tbh.

[gambit1990]

It's just Drake that annoys me. Fake ass fan, tbh.
this.

[Mirrornick]

No offense but I hate the Raptor fan base. They are arguably the second most annoying fan base after Laker fans. Granted I'm judging them by what I have seen on Realgm. I will be sure to troll the hell out of them on realgm when Kawhi leaves and when the Raptors get eliminated. The strikes and possible ban will be worth it.

I approve of your message

[timvp]

Raptors are basically coddling Kawhi and his camp(uncle) at this point. What is extremely weird to me is how Kawhi doesn't even sit on the bench with the team when he's not playing. I have never seen something like this before. He shows up to practice with the team but then is no where to be found during the actual game. The raptors are not even talking about it as they don't want to get on his bad side I guess. They just hope he shows up in the playoffs at this point.

9.999/10 Basketball Player
10/10 Work Ethic
4/10 Toughness
1/10 Teammate
0/10 Leader



tbh

[daslicer]

It's just Drake that annoys me. Fake ass fan, tbh.

It's obvious you have never been to realgm.

[gambit1990]

TOR can play as sloppy as anyone at times offensively and yet, they’re 11-1. they have room to grow AND aren’t even using kawhi as much as the spurs were.

[koriwhat]

It's just Drake that annoys me. Fake ass fan, tbh.

Fake ass rapper, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Fake ass rapper, tbh.

That too but who isn't these days, tbh?

[koriwhat]

That too but who isn't these days, tbh?

that's definitely the truth. :tu

[YGWHI]

He sits out without consulting the coach

I get the saltiness in this thread, it's fine but don't lie. He's not doing anything his team ignores...

His coach already said they will be on this "injury prevention" on b2b's until the All-Star break, that the goal is having him healthy in playoffs. After the game vs SAC, Lowry said he knows that Kawhi is still trying to get his legs under him.

[YGWHI]

REMIND HOW HE MADE LMA LOOK LIKE AN ROLE PLAYER

Well, it's not like he was playing great this season without Kawhi either...If you watched his last 2 games esp vs Miami, it was too easy to make him look like an role player.

[YGWHI]

well tbh I don't care if he re-signs or not. If he doesn't re-sign then i'm going to laugh at all the delusional raptors fans. If he re signs then well good. I'm just glad that DeRozan was trade to the Spurs. He has a lot of years left in his prime and will be an MVP candidate for a long long time. Future is bright I believe so.

I wouldn't....What other thing the franchise could do? Raptors' FO HAD to trade one of Lowry/DeRozan. Both players together were a playoffs big fiasco. You can't expect a different result doing the same thing over and over again...

Also, the trade has been successful even if Kawhi doesn't sign with them. Lowry needed this change, he seems a way better player without DeRozan on court, and having Kawhi working with OG and Siakam is helping to their development.

[concernedcad]

The trade was a W when the Raptors got 1 season of Kawhi without giving up OG or Pascal. Should have insisted on OG.

[Budkin]

Let’s not forget that Kawhi was dismantled in the playoffs by fucking Andre Roberson.

[Budkin]

The trade was a W when the Raptors got 1 season of Kawhi without giving up OG or Pascal. Should have insisted on OG.

How will this trade look when they lose Kawhi?

[slick'81]

How will this trade look when they lose Kawhi?


If he does stay give the raptors credit but its still probably a long shot

[YGWHI]

How will this trade look when they lose Kawhi?
And Raptors' FO would ask you what was the point on maintaing Lowry and DeRozan together for the next two years? They won't make ECF with these two...

At least one year of Kawhi gives them a chance.

[YGWHI]

Let’s not forget that Kawhi was dismantled in the playoffs by fucking Andre Roberson.
Kawhi missed ton of open 3's in that series...His 2P% was great, it was his 3P% what killed his effeciency.

If Dree "forced" Kawhi to shoot .48% overrall...I wouldn't he was dismantled. After all, Russ won an MVP shooting .40%

Also, the Spurs would have won that series if in game 5 with Kawhi in his best superstar form, they would have called a play for him instead of going with 2 consecutive Parker-LMA pick&rolls to close the game.. in a night both guys couldn't hit an ocean.

[Mirrornick]

The trade was a W when the Raptors got 1 season of Kawhi without giving up OG or Pascal. Should have insisted on OG.

lol this guy

[daslicer]

lol this guy

That poster is a reflection of most of these Kawhi fan boys. The only way the Raptors win this trade is if they win the title. There's no ifs and buts about it.

[Mirrornick]

That poster is a reflection of most of these Kawhi fan boys. The only way the Raptors win this trade is if they win the title. There's no ifs and buts about it.


he's a raptors fan from realgm. he's a faggot tbh

[YGWHI]

That poster is a reflection of most of these Kawhi fan boys.

Nah. Kawhi fan boys are cool as always. #WeThe...Best.

Unlike our new Raptors/Spurs/DD fan Mirrornick, most people already knew that Raptors would have traded one of Lowry/DeRozan this season anyway. For Kawhi or another player/combo of players.

[Mirrornick]

Nah. Kawhi fan boys are cool as always. #WeThe...Best.

Unlike our new Raptors/Spurs/DD fan Mirrornick, most people already knew that Raptors would have traded one of Lowry/DeRozan this season anyway. For Kawhi or another player/combo of players.

why you bringing me into this wtf

[therealtruth]

They're winning games even when they don't play well. I don't know what the ceiling is but they've got the best chance of dethroning the Warriors we've seen in years. Long athletic players are the key to beating the Warriors.

[bic50]

That poster is a reflection of most of these Kawhi fan boys. The only way the Raptors win this trade is if they win the title. There's no ifs and buts about it.
Not really

[spursparker9]

Kawhi for MVP is Raptor secured the no. 1 seed (no matter east or nba)

[Kawhi_6rings]

Well, it's not like he was playing great this season without Kawhi either...If you watched his last 2 games esp vs Miami, it was too easy to make him look like an role player.
WE BEAT LAKERS TWICE.NUFF SAID

[weeks]

And Raptors' FO would ask you what was the point on maintaing Lowry and DeRozan together for the next two years? They won't make ECF with these two...


but lebron left.

[bklynspursfan]

Enjoy

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[SpurPadre]

Enjoy

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Would've been more satisfying if he tore his quad afterwards, tbh.

[Kawhitstorm]

Would've been more satisfying if he tore his quad afterwards, tbh.

...instead he's tearing up your mom's ass:cry

[SpurPadre]

...instead he's tearing up your mom's ass:cry

Nah, he'd rather you keep sucking his dick, tbh.

[hater]

Would've been more satisfying if he tore his quad afterwards, tbh.

:lol

[John B]

Enjoy

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Thank you. That was very satisfying :lol:lol

[Hoops Czar]

Enjoy

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His tendons look broken.

[JakeCuenca]

His tendons look broken.

Spurs were probably right with their medical diagnostic. Bad tendon. Suck it up and learn to play with the pain. Thats really the only solution to degenerative tendons. The more he plays and mentally accepts the better he will get.

Dennis and his camp seem to think otherwise.

[Ice009]

Kawhi does not look the same physically. I've watched Raptors games and he's played efficient and well in some of them, but his defense isn't anywhere near the same, and he doesn't seem to get much elevation anymore. I really don't know if it's rust, but right now, he doesn't look the same athletically.

How did he go in today's game, anyway? I can't really take away much from one block.

[slick'81]

Kawhi does not look the same physically. I've watched Raptors games and he's played efficient and well in some of them, but his defense isn't anywhere near the same, and he doesn't seem to get much elevation anymore. I really don't know if it's rust, but right now, he doesn't look the same athletically.

How did he go in today's game, anyway? I can't really take away much from one block.


20/6/2 in the beating... did davis get that wrist though

[JakeCuenca]

Kawhi does not look the same physically. I've watched Raptors games and he's played efficient and well in some of them, but his defense isn't anywhere near the same, and he doesn't seem to get much elevation anymore. I really don't know if it's rust, but right now, he doesn't look the same athletically.

How did he go in today's game, anyway? I can't really take away much from one block.

In 3 of his 10 games he looked explosives but the rest not so much.

I think a lot of that has to do with the resting.

If the Spurs were right and Im starting to believe they are, he just needs to continue playing to develop pain tolerance with his broken tendon. Apperently thats what the meds wanted him to do. To be fair to the medical stuff, a degenerative tendon only real "cure" is improved pain tolerance.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

He’s looked worse since he jammed his foot recently

Prior to that he looked incredible

[Hoops Czar]

He’s looked worse since he jammed his foot recently

Prior to that he looked incredible

On his worst day, he still looks better than DeRozen.

[JakeCuenca]

He’s looked worse since he jammed his foot recently

Prior to that he looked incredible

This is also true.

I dont know why kawhi always look like a top 15 player after missing a couple or a few games. Its been like this since his spurs days

[JakeCuenca]

On his worst day, he still looks better than DeRozen.

Its hard to look good with this shit personel.

Spurs is a poorly constructed team.

[r0drig0lac]

On his worst day, he still looks better than DeRozen.

true


Its hard to look good with this shit personel.

Spurs is a poorly constructed team.

true

[spursparker9]

Enjoy

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Dribble Dribble Dribble...

[bic50]

He’s looked worse since he jammed his foot recently

Prior to that he looked incredible
i bet he's deathly afraid of getting hurt again so he's no playing as aggressively.

[bic50]

Would've been more satisfying if he tore his quad afterwards, tbh.
Get help

[Ice009]

This is also true.

I dont know why kawhi always look like a top 15 player after missing a couple or a few games. Its been like this since his spurs days

Yeah, true. i actually forgot about the foot injury. For some reason I was thinking he missed those couple of games due to resting, but I actually forgot he had a foot injury. And yeah, you're right, he did look really good in a few of the games, but definitely not all of them. I'm still giving him at least half a season to see if he can get back to his old self. Kawhi really excites me when he plays lock down defense and when he plays fast on the defensive end of the court. I just haven't seen that from him this season so far at all. His domination on defense and being able to take a game over on that end of the court is why I liked him so much. Just being able to blow up plays and then finish with a thunderous dunk after taking the ball from the offensive player is what I like to see most from him.

[SAGirl]

The trade was a W when the Raptors got 1 season of Kawhi without giving up OG or Pascal. Should have insisted on OG.

[bklynspursfan]

Dribble Dribble Dribble...

This one has even more dribble dribble dribble

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[Spurs fever]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2805915-free-from-san-antonio-mafia-kawhi-leonard-is-everything-raptors-hoped-for.amp.html

[Kobe'sAchilles]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2805915-free-from-san-antonio-mafia-kawhi-leonard-is-everything-raptors-hoped-for.amp.html

If anything this article points out how much of a pimp coach Pop is. I mean yeah Tim Duncan was the cornerstone, but Pop turned that into being the most feared man in basketball and the most gospel. It's really impressive. I mean they could only find one random executive to talk bad about Pop and he had to be anonymous bc of how scared he is of Pop's hand coming down on him. I like it. Especially for a small market team like us.

[TheGreatYacht]

If anything this article points out how much of a pimp coach Pop is. I mean yeah Tim Duncan was the cornerstone, but Pop turned that into being the most feared man in basketball and the most gospel. It's really impressive. I mean they could only find one random executive to talk bad about Pop and he had to be anonymous bc of how scared he is of Pop's hand coming down on him. I like it. Especially for a small market team like us.
Also the reason no star wants to willingly sign here :lol

Lamarcus needed a few days to decide between San Antonio and Phoenix...

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Also the reason no star wants to willingly sign here :lol

Lamarcus needed a few days to decide between San Antonio and Phoenix...

Yeah but for a small market team to garner that respect/fear is pretty unheard of. Like nobody cares about what the Kings/ Magic/ OKC/ Bucks coaches say or do. Pop may be a dinosaur and dying out but man he's going out Tony Montana style. He's not going out like Phil Jackson or Jerry Sloan.
I agree that the odds of us signing a 3rd star is low and none of these premadonnas actually want to be coached and so the idea of playing for Pop can be seen as a negative. Everyone seems to respect him, but they know that their role and numbers may change if they play for him. Kind of parallel to Lebron James and playing with him.
We are going to have to homegrown a 3rd star and hopefully it's either Murray or Walker or this 3rd get we get in the draft this year.

[Budkin]

Welp, Kawhi lost the ball out of bounds on the game winning possession, then they lost.

[timvp]

Impressive collapse with some key late turnovers :tu

Need some more Ls to improve that draft pick, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Welp, Kawhi lost the ball out of bounds on the game winning possession, then they lost.

Too bad they don't play tomorrow, otherwise it would've been another potential loss since Kawhi doesn't believe in back-to-backs.

[DAF86]

Impressive collapse with some key late turnovers :tu

Need some more Ls to improve that draft pick, tbh.

Not too many though. Top 20 protection. :rolleyes

[Dejounte]

Welp, Kawhi lost the ball out of bounds on the game winning possession, then they lost.

Don't count on Bleacher report to show this on their feed.

[SpurPadre]

Don't count on Bleacher report to show this on their feed.

Maybe the "Mafia" ordered someone to grease up the ball so Kawhi can turn it over at the end of the game...

[timvp]

Not too many though. Top 20 protection. :rolleyes
Nephew's quad could explode and that'd still be safe, tbh.

[Brunodf]

Kawhi missing clutch free throws like it's the 2013 finals again :clap

And impersonating Manu in the end

[sasaint]

Nephew's quad could explode and that'd still be safe, tbh.

Agree - especially when the West may be a dogfight with teams hurting each other's records all season. But I still like seeing the Raptors win. That pick is pretty damn important.

[Hoops Czar]

Welp, Kawhi lost the ball out of bounds on the game winning possession, then they lost.

Just like old times.

Outside of the turnovers, He did singlehandedly keep the Raptors in the game.
10-18, 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals, 26 points

[DAF86]

Just like old times.

Outside of the turnovers, He did singlehandedly keep the Raptors in the game.
10-18, 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals, 26 points

Keep? They were winning by 20.

[loveforthegame]

I don’t know what’s funnier. Leonard dribbling off his foot or the Spurs losing to the likes of the Kings and Suns.

[Hoops Czar]

Keep? They were winning by 20.
It was a 12 point game when he sat in the third and it was a 6 point game when returned in the 4th. Then, Reggie Jackson went off.

[Kawhitstorm]

Keep? They were winning by 20.

He meant to say Mute Cancer kept Dwayne Casey in the game.....

[Kawhitstorm]

Kawhi missing clutch free throws like it's the 2013 finals again :clap

And impersonating Manu in the end

:pop:Just like ole times....:claw

[objective]

Still better offfensively than anyone on the Spurs, and still 10,000 times better on defense than any Spurs wing

[JeffDuncan]

This lousy Spurs team sure takes the fun out of seeing Kawhi boot it. Sigh.

[BatManu20]

Game on the line. Kawhi turnover. Detroit wins at the buzzer. Night salvaged.


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[SpurPadre]

I just realized Zaza Pachulia is with the Pistons now. He's in Kawhi's head, tbh.

[gospursgojas]

Game on the line. Kawhi turnover. Detroit wins at the buzzer. Night salvaged.


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Kawhi fucks up- immediately scratches his cornrows all autistically

[spursparker9]

Kawhi killing the Celtics

[NASpurs]

Kawhi killing the Celtics

Stupid fuckheads could've had him. Now he's terrorizing them. :lol

[timvp]

:lmao @ Celtics making Jaylen Brown untouchable in Kawhi deals.

[Fusternino]

Kawhi with the missed game-winner.

What a relief!

[objective]

Nobody still really believes he had a serious injury or that he had some degenerative condition that meant he would only play another 100 games or some nonsense, do they?

[daslicer]

Nobody still really believes he had a serious injury or that he had some degenerative condition that meant he would only play another 100 games or some nonsense, do they?

I felt all the way back in December of last year it was fake injury and that he would sit out the whole entire year. Also predicted he would come back next year playing at an MVP level. He stole 20 mil from the Spurs.

[spursparker9]

Abaka has revived his career this season

[timvp]

Kawhi choked off last two games. Good news for dat draft pick :tu

[Budkin]

:lmao Kawhi misses game winner and the Celtics pull it out in OT!

[313]

Has Kawhi always gone straight to the locker room without shaking hands or is this a toronto thing?

[ismael-robert]

Did anyone else just see uncle Dennis on court congratulating a celtic like hes part of staff...unless its a look a like think ive seen him in several pics

[r0drig0lac]

Did anyone else just see uncle Dennis on court congratulating a celtic like hes part of staff...unless its a look a like think ive seen him in several pics

and he is not?
http://pa1.narvii.com/6401/25681e7bc02f75bdad5ce21217ed8f68e514e879_hq.gif

[spursparker9]

Has Kawhi always gone straight to the locker room without shaking hands or is this a toronto thing?

Didn't he gone straight to locker room without shaking hands as well in SA?

[bklynspursfan]

Did anyone else just see uncle Dennis on court congratulating a celtic like hes part of staff...unless its a look a like think ive seen him in several pics

I missed that

[Hoops Czar]

:lmao Kawhi misses game winner and the Celtics pull it out in OT!
I'd love to have the Raptors problems, tbh. It beats getting demolished by the 2-11 suns, getting curbstomped by the Magic at home and losing to the kings?

[Hoops Czar]

Didn't he gone straight to locker room without shaking hands as well in SA?
Yeah, and Spurs fans could have cared less. Now it's a big deal.

[timvp]

Neph played 43 minutes tonight and Raptors play tomorrow. Doubtful he plays but if he does, that'd mean they're pretty damn confident about his health.

[loveforthegame]

I'd love to have the Raptors problems, tbh. It beats getting demolished by the 2-11 suns, getting curbstomped by the Magic at home and losing to the kings?

Exactly. Raptors drop 3 straight and they’re still tied for the best record in the league.

Leonard and the Raps will be just fine. Spurs fans can laugh all they want while the team gets demoralized all season long.

[SpurPadre]

Yeah, and Spurs fans could have cared less. Now it's a big deal.

Pop doesn't allow lack of sportsmanship on his teams. He most definitely never pulled that shit as a Spur, tbh.

[bdictjames]

Looks like Kawhi is taking the heel role. He doesn't care about likeability at this point. Always complaining about calls. He's kind of strayed away from the "good guy Spurs" mentality. Good for him, but glad he's not on our team.

[daslicer]

Looks like Kawhi is taking the heel role. He doesn't care about likeability at this point. Always complaining about calls. He's kind of strayed away from the "good guy Spurs" mentality. Good for him, but glad he's not on our team.

The only thing that surprised me is how now he's more vocal with complaining to the refs. I wonder if Pop held him back from going at the refs when he played for the Spurs.

[daslicer]

Exactly. Raptors drop 3 straight and they’re still tied for the best record in the league.

Leonard and the Raps will be just fine. Spurs fans can laugh all they want while the team gets demoralized all season long.

Ahh shut up with your retarded lecture. I will enjoy every time the Raptors get clowned this year even if the Spurs lose 30 in a row. As long as the Raptors don't win the title I will be good.

[Hoops Czar]

Ahh shut up with your retarded lecture. I will enjoy every time the Raptors get clowned this year even if the Spurs lose 30 in a row. As long as the Raptors don't win the title I will be good.
I don't consider losing by seven points in OT to the Celtics on the road getting clowned. Losing by 24 points to the toothless 2-11 Suns is getting clowned.

[RD2191]

I don't consider losing by seven points in OT to the Celtics on the road getting clowned. Losing by 24 points to the toothless 2-11 Suns is getting clowned.

:lol tbh

[Budkin]

I'd love to have the Raptors problems, tbh. It beats getting demolished by the 2-11 suns, getting curbstomped by the Magic at home and losing to the kings?

Yes, I know it’s pathetic, but so are the Spurs. What else do we have? :lol

[JeffDuncan]

Looks like Kawhi is taking the heel role. He doesn't care about likeability at this point. Always complaining about calls. He's kind of strayed away from the "good guy Spurs" mentality. Good for him, but glad he's not on our team.

In fact, during his last full season with the Spurs, Leonard was being encouraged by everybody including coaches and players to talk to the refs, and he was starting to do that.

But time goes by and people forget.

[daslicer]

I don't consider losing by seven points in OT to the Celtics on the road getting clowned. Losing by 24 points to the toothless 2-11 Suns is getting clowned.

STFU you 70 year old grump ass viagra bitch. I will enjoy every Raptors loss period whether is by 1 or by 50. I don't give shit . Like I said before the Spurs can lose 50 in a row and it won't matter to me as long as the Raptors lose.

[Bynumite]

50 page thread about Kiwi one month into the season and a .500 record. Such is the life of a spursfan :lol

[JakeCuenca]

50 page thread about Kiwi one month into the season and a .500 record. Such is the life of a spursfan :lol

Yeah. Spurfans celebrating the Loss.

Meanwhile Kawhi goes for 31-15 and is joint top seed in the league :lmao

While they're stuck with Aldridge and Derozan :lmao

[JeffDuncan]

Like I said before the Spurs can lose 50 in a row and it won't matter to me as long as the Raptors lose.

Spoken like a true Spurs fan.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

50 page thread about Kiwi one month into the season and a .500 record. Such is the life of a spursfan :lol
it's all we have :cry

[ECOV]

Haters gone hate go spurs go fuck all the complaints. Get off the spurs go join a new team already

[Hoops Czar]

STFU you 70 year old grump ass viagra bitch. I will enjoy every Raptors loss period whether is by 1 or by 50. I don't give shit . Like I said before the Spurs can lose 50 in a row and it won't matter to me as long as the Raptors lose.

Don't short change me, I said I lived through the great depression. Wouldn't that make me at least 95 you gullible trainwreck of a poster? Now where did I lay down my cane.. Oh, yeah, I layed it down on the counter next to the butterscotch candies

It won't matter to you if the Spurs lose 50 in a row but you're a supposed fan.:lol

[Mirrornick]

Don't short change me, I said I lived through the great depression. Wouldn't that make me at least 95 you gullible trainwreck of a poster? Now where did I lay down my cane.. Oh, yeah, I layed it down on the counter next to the butterscotch candies

It won't matter to you if the Spurs lose 50 in a row but you're a supposed fan.:lol

Go spread peanut butter around your butt cheeks and get someone to booty fuck you , nasty ass 95 year old faggot.

[daslicer]

Spoken like a true Spurs fan.

I have been a fan since '94. Spurs are a lottery team right now but I will continue to root for them. I have hatred for Kawhi so outside of the Spurs winning I will be rooting for the Raptors to lose.

[daslicer]

Don't short change me, I said I lived through the great depression. Wouldn't that make me at least 95 you gullible trainwreck of a poster? Now where did I lay down my cane.. Oh, yeah, I layed it down on the counter next to the butterscotch candies

It won't matter to you if the Spurs lose 50 in a row but you're a supposed fan.:lol

:lol You are a bitter old man whose not even a Spurs fan but is obsessed with trolling Spur fans despite your shitty Cavs not ever having a rivalry with the Spurs. Hell I can understand why Laker fans troll here 24/7 due to the intense rivalry from the Duncan/Kobe era but your trolling is just strange from a motive perspective. To me you are just a deranged angry person.

I would love to see the Spurs win but I'm realistic to know with this crappy roster they are not going to win many games this year. I can't be an unrealistic stupid person and expect the Spurs to be great this year and that's why I said they could lose 50 in a row and it won't matter. I can live with it. I lived through the horrible '97 season. To get angry and depressed after every spurs loss is just stupid and retarded. It's obvious you are upset the losing is not getting to me.