***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[Spurs fever]

Leonard, White and DeMar would be nice. Just saying.

[HarlemHeat37]

Went to the game tonight, one of the best performances I've ever seen live, tbh .

[gambit1990]

Leonard, White and DeMar would be nice. Just saying.
not as nice as leonard and white.

[HarlemHeat37]

not as nice as leonard and white.

:lol

[apalisoc_9]

not as nice as leonard and white.

Wow. Nasty. :lol

[DAF86]

not as nice as leonard and white.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[r0drig0lac]

not as nice as leonard and white.

damn

[Play Boban]

Not an alpha or a beta. And not even the best player on his own team tbh.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-playoff-teams-have-the-most-star-power/

[MultiTroll]

smh
see the game last night?

So in Nate Silvers system, Harden is the top alpha of the NBA.
FOH.

[Play Boban]

smh
see the game last night?

So in Nate Silvers system, Harden is the top alpha of the NBA.
FOH.

Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger. :madrun

[Millennial_Messiah]

Harden could easily be Finals MVP this year

[phxspurfan]

Very weird system they have that seems to just reward stats and +/- which would sway in the direction of teams with the most overall talent. But no one would say a guy like Danny Green has more "star power" than DeRozan or LMA. Yet neither Spur is on and list, and Danny Green, a role player, has Star Power, supposedly.

[TDMVPDPOY]

looks like raptors are in the same position as the spurs 12 months ago regarding the stupid media narrative to sell click baits...more talk of kawhi leaving raptors...

kawhi playing 60 games this season
as long he plays the 41 home games
as long he plays against the stronger teams
rest him against lottery teams
if the b2b game has a lottery team, u rest him

[Waps1980]

Shows they are a more well rounded team that can also make runs with their star on the bench.

[TDMVPDPOY]

third tier talent, so whats the raptors h2h against top tier teams when kawhi isnt playing?

[lmbebo]

https://www.sbnation.com/2019/4/15/18313342/serge-ibaka-kawhi-leonard-penis-pizza-how-hungry-are-you-raptors-oh-nah-food?fbclid=IwAR0RJTSStHY4GAQFGzC7dZ9NfM0sXvjc9HPU RoUZxjELomWyWnokB70aPgM

[BackHome]

KY still can’t wipe his ass on his own.

[therealtruth]

According to the video in the link he's also the most similar player to MJ in the league.

[Play Boban]

third tier talent, so whats the raptors h2h against top tier teams when kawhi isnt playing?

You tell me, bossman.

[Rummpd]

Kawhi great player but terrible human being - good riddance and hope he fails miserably in all title chances

[spursistan]

Just got carried to a playoff W on the road by Pascal Siakiam..

5-19 FGs/6 TOs/ non-existing D..:lmao..

Only casual fans enamored by PPG. will deny it, but this dude has actually regressed as a basketball player..

[spursparker9]

Probably missed his dose of load management

[spursistan]

Probably missed his dose of load management

The sad part, this is actually might be true. Seems like the dude can no longer play high-intensity basketball every other day (back-to-backs are already off limits)

[daslicer]

Just got carried to a playoff W on the road by Pascal Siakiam..

5-19 FGs/6 TOs/ non-existing D..:lmao..

Only casual fans enamored by PPG. will deny it, but this dude has actually regressed as a basketball player..

He got blocked like 5 times in that game. That to me was the surprising thing to see him struggle to get his shot off.

[spurraider21]

not as nice as leonard and white.
savage

[Rusty]

Him resting too much is making him unable to sustain his level of play. He’s completely gassed out after 3 playoff games. Are you serious???

[Thomas82]

The sad part, this is actually might be true. Seems like the dude can no longer play high-intensity basketball every other day (back-to-backs are already off limits)

He's definitely not what he used to be.

[RC_Drunkford]

Seems like his 2017 performance on the Spurs was his ceiling

[RC_Drunkford]

Seems like his 2017 performance on the Spurs was his ceiling

[smaka]

He is not even the best player on his team lmao

[boutons_deux]

'He's unbelievable': Pascal Siakam's postseason star turn


http://www.espn.com/espn/print?id=26563128 (http://www.espn.com/espn/print?id=26563128)

[Spurs fever]

I heard he was sick so maybe that's why he had a bad game yesterday.

[Johojowhite]

Siakam is better than anyone on the spurs.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VtQOWiPOlI

[jayskipz]

lmao ya'll so salty it's hilarious, Nurse just said he was sick and hadn't practised in the past 2 days, doesn't take a genius to figure something was off with him

[Spurs fever]

lmao ya'll so salty it's hilarious, Nurse just said he was sick and hadn't practised in the past 2 days, doesn't take a genius to figure something was off with him Personally I wish we could move on. I think it's a losing bet to keep comparing our success to his. They have a much easier path than us and he's a better player than anyone we got on our team love him or hate him.

[BackHome]

Yeah he is sick his muscles are turning into bones he won’t be in the league past 4 years. We all know it’s career ending that is why he doesn’t play back to backs. So so much nicer to blame your sucky play on being sick VS saying the truth my Leg is fucked and I can’t play on it like I used to. Dude is going to be exposed the longer the playoff for the Raptors only a matter before The fake news calls him and Uncle Fester Out.

[BackHome]

Yeah he is sick his muscles are turning into bones he won’t be in the league past 4 years. We all know it’s career ending that is why he doesn’t play back to backs. So so much nicer to blame your sucky play on being sick VS saying the truth my Leg is fucked and I can’t play on it like I used to. Dude is going to be exposed the longer the playoff for the Raptors only a matter before The fake news calls him and Uncle Fester Out.

[jayskipz]

Yeah he is sick his muscles are turning into bones he won’t be in the league past 4 years. We all know it’s career ending that is why he doesn’t play back to backs. So so much nicer to blame your sucky play on being sick VS saying the truth my Leg is fucked and I can’t play on it like I used to. Dude is going to be exposed the longer the playoff for the Raptors only a matter before The fake news calls him and Uncle Fester Out.

He wasn't injured.. He was sick.. yknow like feeling under the weather? like the flu? but let the hate consume you

[Leetonidas]

lmao ya'll so salty it's hilarious, Nurse just said he was sick and hadn't practised in the past 2 days, doesn't take a genius to figure something was off with him

Lol what a faggot. :cry leave him alone he's got diarrhea :cry

[exstatic]

He wasn't injured.. He was sick.. yknow like feeling under the weather? like the flu? but let the hate consume you

He’s chronically injured. He has another bone growing inside of his quad. The Raptors said at the beginning of the season that he would only miss B2Bs until January. He missed them all season. They will literally give him any excuse or cover. I doubt he was sick at all. That’s just cover for his lack of ability to play games close together anymore.

[DAF86]

'He's unbelievable': Pascal Siakam's postseason star turn


http://www.espn.com/espn/print?id=26563128 (http://www.espn.com/espn/print?id=26563128)

Poeltl has turned out OK but, damn, I'm sure we could have had Siakam if we tried hard enough. :depressed

[SpurPadre]

Lol what a faggot. :cry leave him alone he's got diarrhea :cry

Manu once had the shits and played the second of a back-to-back like a REAL fucking man. This pussy on the other hand...

[exstatic]

Poeltl has turned out OK but, damn, I'm sure we could have had Siakam if we tried hard enough. :depressed

That was never good to happen for the rental of a player of questionable health.

[DAF86]

That was never good to happen for the rental of a player of questionable health.

Before this season there wasn't much difference between Poeltl and Siakam as prospects, tbh. For all we know both could have been on the table and PATFO preferred Jakob.

[Leetonidas]

Manu once had the shits and played the second of a back-to-back like a REAL fucking man. This pussy on the other hand...

:lol didn't Kawhi sit out a few games with the shits before? Not to mention manu play with the broken arm in 2011 playoffs. Nephew is soft as shit

[Twisted_Dawg]

lmao ya'll so salty it's hilarious, Nurse just said he was sick and hadn't practised in the past 2 days, doesn't take a genius to figure something was off with him

Vaginitis is a very serious disorder.

[jayskipz]

lmao .. theres no point debating facts with the delusional, ya'll have a good one.

[daslicer]

lmao .. theres no point debating facts with the delusional, ya'll have a good one.

:lol not as delusional as you are to believe #2 will stay in Toronto.

[jayskipz]

:lol not as delusional as you are to believe #2 will stay in Toronto.

Please show me where I ever mention he's staying LOL. It would be nice if he stays for even a 1 + 1 but hey I wouldn't blame him if he left. At least he's been a good teammate and cheers on the bench and leads by example on the floor (what else were you clowns complaining about all season). Even though he had a Derozan playoff like performance he still impacted the game in many ways Derozan could only dream of.

[DPG21920]

Please show me where I ever mention he's staying LOL. It would be nice if he stays for even a 1 + 1 but hey I wouldn't blame him if he left. At least he's been a good teammate and cheers on the bench and leads by example on the floor (what else were you clowns complaining about all season). Even though he had a Derozan playoff like performance he still impacted the game in many ways Derozan could only dream of.

:lol Imagine coming onto a Spurs board and complaining while simultaneously taking shots at a player like DeRozan that did everything for your franchise.

[GusT15]

Please show me where I ever mention he's staying LOL. It would be nice if he stays for even a 1 + 1 but hey I wouldn't blame him if he left. At least he's been a good teammate and cheers on the bench and leads by example on the floor (what else were you clowns complaining about all season). Even though he had a Derozan playoff like performance he still impacted the game in many ways Derozan could only dream of.

Finally,some RealGm like Raptorian homerism.

I honestly think we can use more of that here!

Go on buddy,tell em like it is! (in your mind at least)

[SpurPadre]

:lol didn't Kawhi sit out a few games with the shits before? Not to mention manu play with the broken arm in 2011 playoffs. Nephew is soft as shit

Yeah, she did get the shits and missed like two games. For all we know, Load Management also probably sat out a game because TP stared at her and it hurt her feelings tbh.

[miguel1984]

He didn't play because he had the shits. So, he not only requires load management but crap management, too? Damn, Nephew became a nuisance.

[steak n eggs]

Must have had the shits from penis pizza.

[Rusty]

32 points , 12-18 FG , 2-4 3FG

wow

[Spurs fever]

We should really move on. He's better than anyone on our team and he's got an easier path to success. He's just gonna make us eat shit. Just saying.

[DPG21920]

He and the Raps were spectacular tonight.

[loveforthegame]

It’ll be quiet in here because he had a dominant game on both ends. Most only show up when he lays an egg or misses the game winner.

[concernedcad]

The raptors have never had a 3-1 lead. Kind of tells you how sad the derozan/Lowry lead raptors were. Even if Kawhi leaves, having him for a year just makes you as a fan realize he's the kind of player you need. His confidence permeates throughout the entire team.

[Spurs fever]

The raptors have never had a 3-1 lead. Kind of tells you how sad the derozan/Lowry lead raptors were. Even if Kawhi leaves, having him for a year just makes you as a fan realize he's the kind of player you need. His confidence permeates throughout the entire team. He's a silent killer. I think Skip summed it up nicely when he said DeMar is a good player but he still got's Raptor in him. Same with LA. You can straight up tell the Spurs groomed Leonard. He's a quiet assassin. It's a travesty things didn't work out. I still don't know what the fuck happened. I'd take him back in a heartbeat.

[DPG21920]

My guess is they kill PHI too. They seem like a lock for ECF which shouldn’t be a surprise. I think everyone knew they would be very good.

[TD 21]

My guess is they kill PHI too. They seem like a lock for ECF which shouldn’t be a surprise. I think everyone knew they would be very good.

They will. Let's just hope the Bucks/Celtics come through.

Apparently the Spurs didn't . . . how else do you explain them giving him a good shot to reach the Finals and an outside shot to win the championship.

It's not like the return could explain away their rewarding him for screwing them, since it was embarrassing.

[SpurPadre]

It’ll be quiet in here because he had a dominant game on both ends. Most only show up when he lays an egg or misses the game winner.

He's still bitch made, tbh.

[objective]

They will. Let's just hope the Bucks/Celtics come through.

Apparently the Spurs didn't . . . how else do you explain them giving him a good shot to reach the Finals and an outside shot to win the championship.

It's not like the return could explain away their rewarding him for screwing them, since it was embarrassing.

They rewarded him for screwing them because they're weak pushovers.

Kawhi wiped his ass with Pop, RC, the franchise, the players, and everyone's family members. But instead of having self-respect they gave him a great chance to win a ring while giving away Green, all for the return of a mentally frozen declining limited game non-all-star and a middling center prospect who probably isn't any better than the Euro'center they had stashed already.

They let people walk all over them. If/when Kawhi wins a title there will be no one happier than Pop, RC and the Spurs franchise. Not even Uncle Dennis will be as happy for Kawhi.

[mystargtr34]

Raps were amazing on D tonight.. Green/Kawhi/Pascal just switch everything out on the perimeter because they can guard on the perimeter and in the post.

[DPG21920]

Raps were amazing on D tonight.. Green/Kawhi/Pascal just switch everything out on the perimeter because they can guard on the perimeter and in the post.

Yup and it’s on a string too. The cover and rotate for each other and just absolutely suffocate people

[DPG21920]

They will. Let's just hope the Bucks/Celtics come through.

Apparently the Spurs didn't . . . how else do you explain them giving him a good shot to reach the Finals and an outside shot to win the championship.

It's not like the return could explain away their rewarding him for screwing them, since it was embarrassing.

It was not about rewarding Kawhi but doing what’s best for them. SA felt (it’s definitely up for debate) that this was the package that helped them the most and how good it was going to make TOR was not under consideration especially since they are in a different conference.

[Capt Bringdown]

The raptors have never had a 3-1 lead. Kind of tells you how sad the derozan/Lowry lead raptors were. Even if Kawhi leaves, having him for a year just makes you as a fan realize he's the kind of player you need. His confidence permeates throughout the entire team.

Yeah, maybe, but the Raptors are playing the Magic, who are only 2 games over 500. No other team in the Magic's division had a winning record - the worst division in the NBA.
A 3-1 lead against the best team in the worst division is expected.

[TD 21]

It was not about rewarding Kawhi but doing what’s best for them. SA felt (it’s definitely up for debate) that this was the package that helped them the most and how good it was going to make TOR was not under consideration especially since they are in a different conference.

Once it became clear they couldn't get a respectable offer, they should have 1) done what objective has said numerous times and held onto him, 2) traded him to a dead end team for similar crap, 3) at the very least, had Gasol in place of Green if they were going to trade him to the Raptors.

If the Raptors catch the necessary breaks and win the championship, they should be sending these idiots rings.

[objective]

It was not about rewarding Kawhi but doing what’s best for them. SA felt (it’s definitely up for debate) that this was the package that helped them the most and how good it was going to make TOR was not under consideration especially since they are in a different conference.

I don't see what the debate is, it was a bad deal that didn't help them the most before, and it's a bad deal now.

They couldn't even hold strong to get Anunoby in the deal.

I don't see how the Spurs or Spurs fans could argue with a straight face that this deal gave them the best chance to win or even stay competitive. The deal left them without any small forwards on the roster or anyone who could remotely guard small forwards. Because of this deal, they actually went into the season with a 1-year scrub on his way out of the league like Dante Cunningham competing to be starting small forward

How did that help the Spurs? They had DDR and Poeltl all year long plus the emergence of White to offset the loss of Dejounte and they still only won 1 more game than last year when Kawhi ghosted the team.

[DPG21920]

I don't see what the debate is, it was a bad deal that didn't help them the most before, and it's a bad deal now.

They couldn't even hold strong to get Anunoby in the deal.

I don't see how the Spurs or Spurs fans could argue with a straight face that this deal gave them the best chance to win or even stay competitive. The deal left them without any small forwards on the roster or anyone who could remotely guard small forwards. Because of this deal, they actually went into the season with a 1-year scrub on his way out of the league like Dante Cunningham competing to be starting small forward

How did that help the Spurs? They had DDR and Poeltl all year long plus the emergence of White to offset the loss of Dejounte and they still only won 1 more game than last year when Kawhi ghosted the team.

I don’t think many are arguing it was a great deal for SA; the very clear fact is that PATFO thought it accomplished their goal and once we learned what their goals in a trade were (whether we agree with those goals or not) you saw why they did it. Even though it led to many issues, they got what they wanted and remained a 50-win caliber playoff team.

This off season is big though. Because of how the deal went down and the team that had already been built, they had to do what they could. Now they have had time to plan and assess fit/need and will craft a better balanced roster (much of which will come from just adding Murray/Lonnie )

[bic50]

Yeah, maybe, but the Raptors are playing the Magic, who are only 2 games over 500. No other team in the Magic's division had a winning record - the worst division in the NBA.
A 3-1 lead against the best team in the worst division is expected.
Not expected with Lowry and demar

[offset formation]

They will. Let's just hope the Bucks/Celtics come through.

Apparently the Spurs didn't . . . how else do you explain them giving him a good shot to reach the Finals and an outside shot to win the championship.

It's not like the return could explain away their rewarding him for screwing them, since it was embarrassing.

Yeah, but they sent him to Siberia which he hates, sooo...

He evidently only traveled from tunnel to tunnel outside, all while bundled up like an eskimo. And we know he's a California kid at heart. When he was here on his return he wasasked what he liked about San Antonio and the first thing he uttered was, it has good weather. He gone.

[Spurs fever]

Would y'all have taken Jimmy Butler instead of DeMar?

[exstatic]

Would y'all have taken Jimmy Butler instead of DeMar?

No. He stunts the development of young players. He's like the anti-mentor, basically an abusive personality. All of the young players in Chicago hated him. All of the young players in Minnesota hated him.

[Hoops Czar]

Would y'all have taken Jimmy Butler instead of DeMar?
Yes, I would have taken homeless man's Kawhi over a salary dumped Demar. How is this even a question?

[Hoops Czar]

No. He stunts the development of young players. He's like the anti-mentor, basically an abusive personality. All of the young players in Chicago hated him. All of the young players in Minnesota hated him.
What about the young players in Philly?

[DAF86]

Would y'all have taken Jimmy Butler instead of DeMar?

Easily. The same folks saying no, would be the ones sucking him off if PATFO had traded for him and answering "no" to hypotheticals "would y'all have taken DeRozan instead of Butler?" questions.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQCwtiKIgK8

[exstatic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQCwtiKIgK8

A few of the moves, none of the guts or heart....

[Fusternino]

Kawhi is basically MJ but capable of shooting the 3. That's what kills me. He stays with us his entire career and wins about 2-4 championships then he could have had a top 10 of all time career.

[weebo]

Kawhi is basically MJ but capable of shooting the 3. That's what kills me. He stays with us his entire career and wins about 2-4 championships then he could have had a top 10 of all time career.

KL is more Pip than Dad Killer...KL is not as explosive and lacks durability...

[bic50]

KL is more Pip than Dad Killer...KL is not as explosive and lacks durability...
His game is more similar to mj

[exstatic]

His game is more similar to mj

Man up wise, he's more Pippin, who missed playoff games, when Detroit used to beat them like a drum, due to migraines. Funny how the migraines stopped when they started raising trophies. Some guys can only excel when things are going well.

[BackHome]

People comparing him to MJ WTF what are you smoking cause I want some of that shit.

[cd98]

People comparing him to MJ WTF what are you smoking cause I want some of that shit.


Could an old Matt Barnes shut down MJ?

[slick'81]

So we just traded jordan for demar :rollin

[GusT15]

Could an old Matt Barnes shut down MJ?

How about a young Andre Roberson and his imposing will?

[bic50]

People comparing him to MJ WTF what are you smoking cause I want some of that shit.
No one is comparing them

[DPG21920]

I think many of us have said that before and I perfectly understand what he meant. He does play a lot like Jordan and you can clearly tell Kawhi molded his game after him.

There have been moments where it looks like watching a doppelgänger regarding his movements.

[Hoops Czar]

I think many of us have said that before and I perfectly understand what he meant. He does play a lot like Jordan and you can clearly tell Kawhi molded his game after him.

There have been moments where it looks like watching a doppelgänger regarding his movements.

He only plays like MJ to those who have never seen MJ play before. It's like comparing Harold "baby Jordan" Minor to MJ because of his tremendous leaping ability. People are always looking to make comparison even when their aren't any.

Don't smear MJ's good name by saying he played like Kawhi. Show some respect to a six time NBA champion.

[r0drig0lac]

except Kobe Bryant, only Kawhi has moves that are somewhat similar to MJ (logically MJ is on a completely different level in athletics and footwork), the comparison is completely plausible (as well as people comparing Joel to Hakeem)

[dbreiden83080]

People comparing him to MJ WTF what are you smoking cause I want some of that shit.

Yeah well if he was dropping 37, and playing great D for us we likely would be LOL..

[TDMVPDPOY]

kawhi limping around in game 5....

[concernedcad]

27 points on 12 shots. This guy is a juggernaut.

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

kawhi limping around in game 5....
He literally limps every game. He's playing with an injury that'll never go away.

[cool cat]

He's playing with an injury that'll never go away.

Autism is no joke.

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

Autism is no joke.
Compare those 9 games he played last year to this year, he was clearly hurt a lot more last year.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

He literally limps every game. He's playing with an injury that'll never go away.

Fake injury

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Autism is no joke.

lol

[loveforthegame]

Still ridiculous.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Raptors/status/1120852953328422922

[TDMVPDPOY]

remember when clowns on here complaining about kawhi iso offense stalling the team offensive schemes??

well i rather have the ball in kawhis hands shooting it then these idiots who are proven failures
-ddr heroball forcing shit up back into his ass
-lma weakass attempts close to the ring, or continue to shoot over the shoulder bricks against midgets
-forbes/mills rushed brick shots, green light to chuck
-gay who doesnt know what to do with the ball

[r0drig0lac]

damn

[Immortal Spur]

Fr....*^^ you Lowry airball essentially a free throw

[RD2191]

:lmao Kawhi haters nowhere to be found. This guy is a fucking beast.

[emanueldavidginobili]

All that rest showing off, woah.

[RD2191]

27 points on 10-14 shooting...at the half.

[BillMc]

:lmao Kawhi haters nowhere to be found. This guy is a fucking beast.

I'm a Kawhi disliker (could never actually hate anyone who helped Spurs get a ring) and I'm here. No doubt Kawhi is a generational player.


He also quit on the Spurs, went AWOL in the playoffs, showed zero-professionalism, and boxed the FO into a corner where his trade value was greatly reduced.

Plenty of reasons for a Spurs fan to dislike him.

[gambit1990]

spurs traded him way too quickly. and before you say hindsight is 20/20, i thought this as soon as they pulled the trigger.

https://media.giphy.com/media/13ATyLQB0rLVzG/giphy.gif

[timvp]

kawhilaughtremixsadversion.mp3

[Dverde]

He is playing great. The question I had was his defense. I still think he either lost a step or had chosen to concentrate more on offense. Sadly, I feel the Spurs lose/win based on this game. I can’t see it being split decision

[objective]

"degenerative condition ... can't super max him, but can find money for Patty and Pau ... bones growing in his legs ... never play again ... Too hurt to go to games ..."

Lol

Fake injured his way into playing when and how hard he wanted.

Should have just suspended his ass and rolled with Green.

[daslicer]

I'm a Kawhi disliker (could never actually hate anyone who helped Spurs get a ring) and I'm here. No doubt Kawhi is a generational player.


He also quit on the Spurs, went AWOL in the playoffs, showed zero-professionalism, and boxed the FO into a corner where his trade value was greatly reduced.

Plenty of reasons for a Spurs fan to dislike him.

This is how I feel. For me I'm taking the laker fan stance which is "As long as #2 doesn't ring."

[GreekSpursfan]

I'm a Kawhi disliker (could never actually hate anyone who helped Spurs get a ring) and I'm here. No doubt Kawhi is a generational player.


He also quit on the Spurs, went AWOL in the playoffs, showed zero-professionalism, and boxed the FO into a corner where his trade value was greatly reduced.

Plenty of reasons for a Spurs fan to dislike him.

Absolutely spot on.
This quote should be the title of this thread even if its too big for a title.

[Genovaswitness]

damn kawhi is killing the 6ers. I watch this game and feel so sad about the piece of shit choker inefficient forrest gump level BBIQ players we have now. fuck depression.


GAMEDAY BALA GAME DAY

[gambit1990]

when the season started i said siakam would be MIP. it's embarrassing the spurs didn't acquire him.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Boban is -17 in just 10 minutes on the floor. That's ugly.

[gambit1990]

green living his best life... from the small ass san antonio market to partying with drake.

not a drake fan but those parties have gotta be legit.

[spursistan]

Ujiri bent over RC in that trade, there is no question about it (even if the scumbag leaves Toronto)..

From not pressing on Siakam to throwing away Green instead of dumping Gasol..Pretty much from every angle..It is been a GMing rout..

[Kurgan]

Ujiri bent over RC in that trade, there is no question about it (even if the scumbag leaves Toronto)..

From not pressing on Siakam to throwing away Green instead of dumping Gasol..Pretty much from every angle..It is been a GMing rout..

And RC payed them 5 million on top of all that. :lol

[Kurgan]

green living his best life... from the small ass san antonio market to partying with drake.

not a drake fan but those parties have gotta be legit.

Toronto girls are better than the cows in San Antonio too

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

green living his best life... from the small ass san antonio market to partying with drake.

not a drake fan but those parties have gotta be legit.

lol

[SpurPadre]

Toronto girls are better than the cows in San Antonio too

TD's bitch is firme, though, tbh.

[objective]

Ujiri bent over RC in that trade, there is no question about it (even if the scumbag leaves Toronto)..

From not pressing on Siakam to throwing away Green instead of dumping Gasol..Pretty much from every angle..It is been a GMing rout..


And RC payed them 5 million on top of all that. :lol

And if Kawhi wins the title, Pop and RC are going to be overjoyed and lavish Kawhi and the Raptors with praise. It's be a love fest about how proud they are, how no one is a bigger fan of his than them, and how they just wanted the best for them.

[Genovaswitness]

kawhi getting 40 point playoff games while derozan is munching prozacs :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[gambit1990]

wow... kawhi with 41 on 75% shooting... seven minutes to go.

[HarlemHeat37]

Imagine thinking Kawhi isn't worth the max:lol

[gambit1990]

spurs managed to overlook kawhi's trajectory...

[Hoops Czar]

But Kawhi has a disabiwity. He's damaged goods. :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Kawhi spitting on everyone here and yalls fat wives :lol

[ducks]

Yeah he making sure he get max playing 60
Games out of 82 before playoffs

[HarlemHeat37]

Yeah he making sure he get max playing 60
Games out of 82 before playoffs

Who cares?

It looks like he was clearly holding it back for the playoffs..60 games of 75% Kawhi and then getting his playoff form is easily worth the max in a league where Gordon Hayward and John Wall are getting 25+ per year..

[concernedcad]

Sucks the way it ended. But you guys still developed this juggernaut.

[szkorhetz]

OMFG, Kawhi.

[HarlemHeat37]

Not sure how you guard him right now..Gordon and Isaac is probably the best duo he'll face(defensively) in the playoffs and they did a decent job, but he still got his..

Philly has Butler and Simmons, but Kawhi routinely kills them..

I guess we'll see if Giannis can do it..neither of the West teams have a chance against him, defensively..

[TheGreatYacht]

Where is daslicer at?

He was here for 126 posts, what is a 127th....

:cry but he didn't play against the Suns and Hawks in November!! :cry

[ducks]

The people betting on the games care not knowing if Leonard is going to play or just coast all game
Dude is not as old as James
If players are not going to go all out should reduce pay and just play 50 games

[GusT15]

Not sure how you guard him right now..Gordon and Isaac is probably the best duo he'll face(defensively) and they did a decent job, but he still got his..

Philly has Butler and Simmons, but Kawhi routinely kills them..

I guess we'll see if Giannis can do it..neither of the West teams have a chance against him..

Giannis will be max 5 mins on Nephew.He'll be on Ibaka on small ball and on Siakam on normal line up.

Middleton will be on Nephew.

(That's of course if the normal thing happens and Bucks advance)

[RD2191]

Kawhi spitting on everyone here and yalls fat wives :lol

:lmao

[daslicer]

Where is daslicer at?

He was here for 126 posts, what is a 127th....

:cry but he didn't play against the Suns and Hawks in November!! :cry

:lol Comming from the guy who was over 30,000 posts compared to my 8k.

This is how I feel about this situation. I'm going to copy paste Billmc's original post. There is nothing else to it. I don't know why your stupid ass wants to keep this beef going:

I'm a Kawhi disliker (could never actually hate anyone who helped Spurs get a ring) and I'm here. No doubt Kawhi is a generational player.


He also quit on the Spurs, went AWOL in the playoffs, showed zero-professionalism, and boxed the FO into a corner where his trade value was greatly reduced.

Plenty of reasons for a Spurs fan to dislike him.

[HarlemHeat37]

Giannis will be max 5 mins on Nephew.He'll be on Ibaka on small ball and on Siakam on normal line up.

Middleton will be on Nephew.

(That's of course if the normal thing happens and Bucks advance)

Giannis will be guarding him in the 4th IMO..Middleton has no chance against Kawhi..

I don't think Milwaukee will care about stopping him, anyways..their offense matches up well, even against this elite Raptors D..their volume of 3s and ability to take Gasol out of the series will be huge..

[gambit1990]

big shoutout to tony "last straw" parker:

And the last straw, I was told, was when Tony Parker made those comments about 'my quad injury was 100-times worse'. And if you remember shortly after, Kawhi Leonard left San Antonio and he didn't want to be part of that media glare there and did not come back until the season was over with.

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[Dverde]

Keep in mind, genius Toronto GM is only being saved by a trade deadline trade of Gasol. Without the Bobcats pulling up lame, they don’t got shit chance in the East.

[RD2191]

big shoutout to tony "last straw" parker:


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Fukin porker.

[GusT15]

Giannis will be guarding him in the 4th IMO..Middleton has no chance against Kawhi..

I'll say this much,if Bud is forced to put Giannis on Leonard in the 4th something has gone terribly bad for the Bucks and they'd be looking for a miracle comeback line up.

[RD2191]

:lmao @ philly for not wanting to give up "too much" for Kawhi

[paperboy77]

Still hope #2 fails but damn.... can you imagine the Clippers next year?

[K...]

Fukin porker.

damn right, he warded off the mentally weak. Only wish he was here to knock sense into derozan.

Kawhi would never produce for SA like this. HE quit.

[Hoops Czar]

big shoutout to tony "last straw" parker:


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Kawhi's camp were making up all kinds of excuses out of desperation in the beginning. When they were getting laughed at and ridiculed for blaming Tony Parker, they took back the comment. I'm sure you knew that but your hatred toward Parker made you post this fluff piece anyway.

[Play Boban]

Kawhitter wrecked Philly tbqh.

[Kurgan]

Defrozen would need 40 shots to score 40 points

[BackHome]

Hate KY but he was a stud but let’s see if that quad will hold up.

[gambit1990]

Kawhi's camp were making up all kinds of excuses out of desperation in the beginning. When they were getting laughed at and ridiculed for blaming Tony Parker, they took back the comment. I'm sure you knew that but your hatred toward Parker made you post this fluff piece anyway.
taking back the comment doesn't mean it wasn't true.

[HarlemHeat37]

Parker running Kawhi out of SA is a big hit to his Spurs legacy, sadly IMO..I love TP, but he didn't have to say it like that..could have just stuck to questioning why Kawhi wasn't around the team like Manu did, rather than questioning his manhood..

[Johojowhite]

Keep in mind, genius Toronto GM is only being saved by a trade deadline trade of Gasol. Without the Bobcats pulling up lame, they don’t got shit chance in the East.
Lol what a dumb statement.

:rollin

[emanueldavidginobili]

1122318724948811777

:(

[Johojowhite]

Giannis will be max 5 mins on Nephew.He'll be on Ibaka on small ball and on Siakam on normal line up.

Middleton will be on Nephew.

(That's of course if the normal thing happens and Bucks advance)
Kawhi missed 20 games, Lowry missed 18, their backup point guard missed 11, Jonas Valanciunas missed 40 games so they had no back up Center for most of the year.

Despite all that they only missed out on the first seed by 3 games. Kawhi and the raptors are gonna kill the Bucks.

[Hoops Czar]

taking back the comment doesn't mean it wasn't true.
Kawhi wanted out long before Parker opened his mouth. He was clearly faking the severity of the injury. I'm not sure why this is still up for debate. :lol If you want to pay the blame game, start with the GOAT :pop:

[Twisted_Dawg]

:lmao @ philly for not wanting to give up "too much" for Kawhi
Same with fucking Boston.

[Kurgan]

Parker running Kawhi out of SA is a big hit to his Spurs legacy, sadly IMO..I love TP, but he didn't have to say it like that..could have just stuck to questioning why Kawhi wasn't around the team like Manu did, rather than questioning his manhood..

His Spurs legacy already took a hit when he chose to retire with a lottery bound Hornets team instead of accepting a mentor role on the Spurs.

[Dancelot]

Kawhi spitting on everyone here and yalls fat wives :lol
Sorry but this is fucking hilarious. :lmao

[rasuo214]

Kawhi wanted out the second PATFO signed Patty and Gasol. There were rumors about it back then.

[offset formation]

I'm a Kawhi disliker (could never actually hate anyone who helped Spurs get a ring) and I'm here. No doubt Kawhi is a generational player.


He also quit on the Spurs, went AWOL in the playoffs, showed zero-professionalism, and boxed the FO into a corner where his trade value was greatly reduced.

Plenty of reasons for a Spurs fan to dislike him.

[UZER]

We all know how stubborn, micromanaging, and in love with old unathletic guys Pop is.

You have to be a major dumbass to screw up a relationship with a dude that has the mental capacity of a 12 year old.

[BillMc]

You have to be a major dumbass to screw up a relationship with a dude that has the mental capacity of a 12 year old.

It's probably easy to screw up a relationship with someone who has the mental capacity of a 12 year old. Especially when his controlling uncle has an agenda.

[daslicer]

We all know how stubborn, micromanaging, and in love with old unathletic guys Pop is.

You have to be a major dumbass to screw up a relationship with a dude that has the mental capacity of a 12 year old.

Pop is an ego maniac and his act wears thin on some players but #2 was going to leave regardless. He wants to be in LA and that will be clear this summer. Spurs could have replaced Pop with a pushover coach like Nurse along with assembling a superteam and he still would have wanted out of SA.

[Johojowhite]

Pop is an ego maniac and his act wears thin on some players but #2 was going to leave regardless. He wants to be in LA and that will be clear this summer. Spurs could have replaced Pop with a pushover coach like Nurse along with assembling a superteam and he still would have wanted out of SA.
When a Kawhi stays in Toronto after this offseason I wonder what else you’re going to pull out of your ass. lol

[daslicer]

When a Kawhi stays in Toronto after this offseason I wonder what else you’re going to pull out of your ass. lol

I'll eat crow if he stays in Toronto. Feel free to rub it in ad nauseam. Just being real his odds of staying in Toronto is as high as Trump going a week without telling a lie.

[ElNono]

Fuck Nephew

[spursparker9]

Kawhi must be smiling to himself, would have never get out of 1st round if he stayed.

[JeffDuncan]

There's no doubt Kawhi made the right decision to get away from this carnival sideshow excuse for a Spurs team. Sad to say.

[therealtruth]

His Spurs legacy already took a hit when he chose to retire with a lottery bound Hornets team instead of accepting a mentor role on the Spurs.

I don't blame TP for seeing the writing on the wall and wanting out. At least he got paid and a chance to play instead of taking a pay/minutes cut to watch a first round flame out.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sy1kOSNjkM

[Kurgan]

I don't blame TP for seeing the writing on the wall and wanting out. At least he got paid and a chance to play instead of taking a pay/minutes cut to watch a first round flame out.

Spurs offered him the same contract as the Hornets. And, in the end, he didn't even get to play. Got DNP'd into retirement. First round exits are embarrassing, yes. But not as embarrassing as missing the playoffs entirely(and for the first time in his career).

[exstatic]

Parker running Kawhi out of SA is a big hit to his Spurs legacy, sadly IMO..I love TP, but he didn't have to say it like that..could have just stuck to questioning why Kawhi wasn't around the team like Manu did, rather than questioning his manhood..

Parker spit nothing but the truth. He didn't run Kawhi out of SA, Kawhi ran away from the fact that Tony's injury WAS 100 time worse, like the little beyotch he is. I mean, Tony's quad literally tore off of the bone. He came back in December from an injury, and Kawhi decided in December not to play anymore. One of the biggest shticks on this board is how over sensative DDR is, but he can't hold a candle to Kawhi's Diva-ness.

[Fusternino]

Glad Kawhi is gone, tbh. Can't wait for him to lose in this round and join the Clippers, tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

Imagine thinking Kawhi isn't worth the max:lol

spurstalk studs

[apalisoc_9]

Kawhi spitting on everyone here and yalls fat wives :lol

Spurs FA not maxing him out :lol

[r0drig0lac]

Still hope #2 fails but damn.... can you imagine the Clippers next year?

I'd rather see Kawhi win the next 5 championships than Harden or Durant.

[TDomination]

Lol @ people bashing the Spurs with the whole Kawhi thing. Both sides made mistakes but funny how everyone forgets how involved Uncle was with the decisions.
Kawhi wanted out regardless of what happened or didn't happen with Parker. Based on how PATFO had little to no control of his rehab since AUG. of Kawhis last year here, plus just not showing up at all in the playoffs. I mean cmon man. This guy was out of here regardless.

But it looks like things are going great for him. He looks to have made such a smart decision leaving this joke of a franchise that has done nothing and will do nothing in San Antonio.

I'm sure he will stay in Toronto for the rest of his career out of loyalty for them since they are allowing him to play up to his potential. I mean seriously speaking why would he want to go anywhere else when things are set up so perfectly for him to be the star and to be a contender every year?

[TDomination]

Kawhi must be smiling to himself, would have never get out of 1st round if he stayed.
Might not have made the playoffs if he got his wish and gone to LA. Although Clippers for sure would have made it.
He got lucky he was sent to a team that was already a pretty good team. They were able to avoid losing during all the games he was out during the season.

You don't think we make it past the 1st round with him on the roster?

White/Danny Green/Kawhi/Gay/LMA?

its all hindsight anyways.

[paperboy77]

I'd rather see Kawhi win the next 5 championships than Harden or Durant.

Agree on Harden. KD in NY and win would be cool. No love for KL at all.

[weeks]

There's no doubt Kawhi made the right decision to get away from this carnival sideshow excuse for a Spurs team. Sad to say.

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

Glad Kawhi is gone, tbh. Can't wait for him to lose in this round and join the Clippers, tbh.
He isnt leaving 25 year old Siakam for Pat Beverly and Lou Williams. :lmao

[DAF86]

He isnt leaving 25 year old Siakam for Pat Beverly and Lou Williams. :lmao

He doesn't care about that. It has always been about going back to LA.

[BillMc]

I tell you if I have to watch a Raptors - Warriors finals, I may be physically ill.

Warriors - dislike ALL their rotation players except maybe Livingston. Even dislike former Spur Kerr these days.

Raptors - strongly dislike Kawhi and Ibaka. Danny is a good guy. If he weren't on the same team with Nephew, I'd root for him.

Man, if that's the finals (and with Milwaukee looking suddenly vulnerable it very well could be) may have to give up on the NBA.

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

He doesn't care about that. It has always been about going back to LA.
That's just the excuse he used to get out of middle of nowhere San Antonio. Now he's in a world class city. He ain't leaving.

[BillMc]

He doesn't care about that. It has always been about going back to LA.

Yeah. Apparently, he thinks he can win anywhere. (Despite being quiet he's got a huge ego.) He may be right, though, if he really goes to the Clippers, pairs with Durant, and let's Jerry West fill in the supporting cast.

[exstatic]

Yeah. Apparently, he thinks he can win anywhere. (Despite being quiet he's got a huge ego.) He may be right, though, if he really goes to the Clippers, pairs with Durant, and let's Jerry West fill in the supporting cast.

Durant's going to NY. Even his GS teammates are saying it, off the record, of course.

[DAF86]

That's just the excuse he used to get out of middle of nowhere San Antonio. Now he's in a world class city. He ain't leaving.

I'll get back to you on the offseason.

[slick'81]

Kawhi is in absolute beast mode right now

[RC_Drunkford]

He isnt leaving 25 year old Siakam for Pat Beverly and Lou Williams. :lmao

but he will leave coldass Toronto for sunny LA with lesser tax payments

[FrankC]

but he will leave coldass Toronto for sunny LA with lesser tax payments
Um, taxes to play in California are actually worse than playing in Toronto. It's players who keep homes in FL or TX that notice the tax difference.

It may well be about family and weather, but it won't be about money or taxes.

[Rusty]

if Kawhi goes to the Clippers he makes $140 Million / 4 years
If he stays in Toronto he gets $190 Million / 5 years

or if he really wants that super max he signs 1+1 with either team. I think he'll do this and sign with the Clippers this summer

[exstatic]

Um, taxes to play in California are actually worse than playing in Toronto. It's players who keep homes in FL or TX that notice the tax difference.

It may well be about family and weather, but it won't be about money or taxes.

Ontario provincial taxes are 5.05-13.16%. California taxes are 1-12.3%

[DAF86]

if Kawhi goes to the Clippers he makes $140 Million / 4 years
If he stays in Toronto he gets $190 Million / 5 years

or if he really wants that super max he signs 1+1 with either team. I think he'll do this and sign with the Clippers this summer

If he has doubts about his health, I don't think he will take the risk of signing a short contract.

[DPG21920]

if Kawhi goes to the Clippers he makes $140 Million / 4 years
If he stays in Toronto he gets $190 Million / 5 years

or if he really wants that super max he signs 1+1 with either team. I think he'll do this and sign with the Clippers this summer

This is incorrect. He cannot sign what we call the Super Max. Once he was traded, that was forever dead.

[**BUSTA**]

This is incorrect. He cannot sign what we call the Super Max. Once he was traded, that was forever dead.

I think he means the equivalent of the supermax which is the ten year vet max . Take the 1+1 if Kawhi is not worried about injury.


I guess he can only do that with Toronto since they are the only ones who could give him 5 years.

[daslicer]

I think he means the equivalent of the supermax which is the ten year vet max . Take the 1+1 if Kawhi is not worried about injury.


I guess he can only do that with Toronto since they are the only ones who could give him 5 years.

Toronto can give him a 5 year max but not a supermax. Their max per a year would only be slightly higher than what other teams could offer him.

[Fusternino]

Down 8. Good stuff. Would love for the Raps to lose in the 2nd round.

[SpurPadre]

Load Management losing is a beautiful thing.

[Leetonidas]

Lmao LDN with two wide open bricks from 3 in crunch time. There's the Danny we know

[SpurPadre]

LDN just missed a three to tie and Load Management lost the ball. Raptors lose!!!!!

[Fusternino]

Good times ahead!

[Spurs Homer]

Jimmee buckets!


schooling the quitter!

[BillMc]

Load Management losing is a beautiful thing.

I think I might put that on my tombstone.

[daslicer]

Jimmy Butler was clutch in this game and props to Embiid for hitting the shot that put the Raptors away. Also great adjustment's by Coach Brown in focusing on stopping Siakam. Take Siakam out and it makes it harder for the Raptors to win. Great to see a great game by #2 wasted. Hoping the Sixers can win both games at home.

[SpurPadre]

I think I might put that on my tombstone.

:bobo

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spurstalk studs

Go ahead and kill your franchise by dropping 180M over 5 years for a guy that played ~60 games. The Raptors had a very good record when he was out.

Now let him go to the West.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Kawhi wanted out long before Parker opened his mouth. He was clearly faking the severity of the injury. I'm not sure why this is still up for debate. :lol If you want to pay the blame game, start with the GOAT :pop:

[UZER]

Jimmy Butler was clutch in this game and props to Embiid for hitting the shot that put the Raptors away. Also great adjustment's by Coach Brown in focusing on stopping Siakam. Take Siakam out and it makes it harder for the Raptors to win. Great to see a great game by #2 wasted. Hoping the Sixers can win both games at home.

Crazy how the rules stretch over the years. Used to be a full spin move was your two steps, that was it. Now guys spin with two steps, plant, then pivot again.

Also the jump stop used to count as your two steps. Now guys jump stop, then do a complete pivot the other way.

Having watched over the years, it just amazes me how things change little by little.

[JeffDuncan]

Yeah, Leonard only scored 35 points. I guess we sure showed him.

It's all pathetic.

[daslicer]

Yeah, Leonard only scored 35 points. I guess we sure showed him.

It's all pathetic.

No one is denying that he isn't a superstar. It's all about seeing him fail and not getting a ring.

[spurs10]

Go ahead and kill your franchise by dropping 180M over 5 years for a guy that played ~60 games. The Raptors had a very good record when he was out.

Now let him go to the West. I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket no matter how good he is on the nights he actually plays. He's missed over 90 games in the last two seasons.

[JeffDuncan]

The only way to show Leonard he was wrong is for the Spurs to win a championship without him.

Anybody see that happening? Next season? The season after? When?

Pop said, basically, he's given up on another championship during his time as coach. His Spurs, next year, will be pretty much the same, he said. No championship ambition there. As things stand, it's no championship team. It isn't even a playoff 2nd round team.

But hey, maybe the Spurs will be the 6th seed next year, and make it into the 2nd round, before they lose in some sad, stupid way. Yeah, that'll really show Leonard!

It's pathetic. Pop has become pathetic, and the Spurs have become pathetic. And most pathetic of all are the Spurs fans who think, "I'll show Kawhi! I'll insult him on Spurstalk! That'll teach him a lesson!"

Pathetic.

[apalisoc_9]

The only way to show Leonard he was wrong is for the Spurs to win a championship without him.

Anybody see that happening? Next season? The season after? When?

Pop said, basically, he's given up on another championship during his time as coach. His Spurs, next year, will be pretty much the same, he said. No championship ambition there. As things stand, it's no championship team. It isn't even a playoff 2nd round team.

But hey, maybe the Spurs will be the 6th seed next year, and make it into the 2nd round, before they lose in some sad, stupid way. Yeah, that'll really show Leonard!

It's pathetic. Pop has become pathetic, and the Spurs have become pathetic. And most pathetic of all are the Spurs fans who think, "I'll show Kawhi! I'll insult him on Spurstalk! That'll teach him a lesson!"

Pathetic.

:lmao

[spurs10]

The only way to show Leonard he was wrong is for the Spurs to win a championship without him.

Anybody see that happening? Next season? The season after? When?

Pop said, basically, he's given up on another championship during his time as coach. His Spurs, next year, will be pretty much the same, he said. No championship ambition there. As things stand, it's no championship team. It isn't even a playoff 2nd round team.

But hey, maybe the Spurs will be the 6th seed next year, and make it into the 2nd round, before they lose in some sad, stupid way. Yeah, that'll really show Leonard!

It's pathetic. Pop has become pathetic, and the Spurs have become pathetic. And most pathetic of all are the Spurs fans who think, "I'll show Kawhi! I'll insult him on Spurstalk! That'll teach him a lesson!"

Pathetic. Do you really think a Hall of Fame coach like Pop is trying to "show" Leonard? He's been nice as hell to him. The idea of winning 5 championships out of 20 years is insane. Pop and the Spurs were the most winning team in all team sports.

This team is now a work in progress and nobody is thinking they are winning a championship. There are 30 teams and we are in the middle of the pack. I think the team will improve next season, but without a superstar it's not likely they'll win it all. Nobody, especially Coach Pop, has anything to prove to KL.

[Rusty]

https://i.ibb.co/kc91Y4T/Kawhi-Postseason.jpg

"not worth the max:cry"
"DeKobe is a better passer:cry"
"b-b-but he only played 40 games this season, he's not durable:cry"

[exstatic]

The only way to show Leonard he was wrong is for the Spurs to win a championship without him.

Anybody see that happening? Next season? The season after? When?

Pop said, basically, he's given up on another championship during his time as coach. His Spurs, next year, will be pretty much the same, he said. No championship ambition there. As things stand, it's no championship team. It isn't even a playoff 2nd round team.

But hey, maybe the Spurs will be the 6th seed next year, and make it into the 2nd round, before they lose in some sad, stupid way. Yeah, that'll really show Leonard!

It's pathetic. Pop has become pathetic, and the Spurs have become pathetic. And most pathetic of all are the Spurs fans who think, "I'll show Kawhi! I'll insult him on Spurstalk! That'll teach him a lesson!"

Pathetic.

You’re just as pathetic with your constant Pop and Spurs fan bashing.

[Ginobilly]

Crazy how the rules stretch over the years. Used to be a full spin move was your two steps, that was it. Now guys spin with two steps, plant, then pivot again.

Also the jump stop used to count as your two steps. Now guys jump stop, then do a complete pivot the other way.

Having watched over the years, it just amazes me how things change little by little.


Maybe that's why white guys playing in the 50s and 60s looked slow as fuck because they looked like they played the right way and took bball rules seriously. A lot of athletic and explosive bball moves are not possible if your not allowed to cheat a little with extra steps and carrying. All this jordan/and 1/AI moves would be illegal if they called it like its meant to be called. Maybe the nba pussyfied and loosened up the game of basketball for minorities because they're not as smart as white guys?

[kobyz]

Raptors need to bench Danny Green if they want a chance in this series, you can't win with him against a high level team, he's too stiff...

[Harry Callahan]

https://i.ibb.co/kc91Y4T/Kawhi-Postseason.jpg

"not worth the max:cry"
"DeKobe is a better passer:cry"
"b-b-but he only played 40 games this season, he's not durable:cry"

Taking a small sample of shots as a volume shooter at 27 years old is a garbage stat when you try to compare SIX years from the time he was 19 years old to 25 YO as a developing player. Typical ESPN. Did Pop ever have #2 go as many minutes as the Nursemaid did last night in a non-OT game?

The point is not about the fact that this guy is a great player. The FACTs are that he and his group cannot be trusted to be available to have him play lets say 80-90% of his games in a RS. No back to backs might continue. He was "broken down" in 2018 and could not get past the 2nd round in 2017. Paying a Supermax to this guy would have been a questionable decision at best ESPECIALLY last summer. Nephew is a snake. He will always be a snake. I don't care if his team wins a championship some time in the future. If you can't see this, you are blind.

Spitting in Pop's face and the Spurs Organization's face is not a good look. I hope the Clips drop $190M on this guy and experience HEAVY load management. They would deserve it. Their owner is a creepy weirdo kind of like Nephew.

[exstatic]

Maybe that's why white guys playing in the 50s and 60s looked slow as fuck because they looked like they played the right way and took bball rules seriously. A lot of athletic and explosive bball moves are not possible if your not allowed to cheat a little with extra steps and carrying. All this jordan/and 1/AI moves would be illegal if they called it like its meant to be called. Maybe the nba pussyfied and loosened up the game of basketball for minorities because they're not as smart as white guys?

Nothing in the world says that the rules ONLY evolved for the black players. If white guys could do it, they would be. They can't, therefore, they can't compete.

White men can't jump, and a lot of other things you need to be a high level NBA player. They're just not good enough athletes to compete. Some friends of mine an I were trying to name US born white NBA players, and we couldn't come up with very many current ones...the Plumlee brothers, Korver, JJ Reddick. There just aren't many.

[exstatic]

Taking a small sample of shots as a volume shooter at 27 years old is a garbage stat when you try to compare SIX years from the time he was 19 years old to 25 YO as a developing player. Typical ESPN. Did Pop ever have #2 go as many minutes as the Nursemaid did last night in a non-OT game?

The point is not about the fact that this guy is a great player. The FACTs are that he and his group cannot be trusted to be available to have him play lets say 80-90% of his games in a RS. No back to backs might continue. He was "broken down" in 2018 and could not get past the 2nd round in 2017. Paying a Supermax to this guy would have been a questionable decision at best ESPECIALLY last summer. Nephew is a snake. He will always be a snake. I don't care if his team wins a championship some time in the future. If you can't see this, you are blind.

Spitting in Pop's face and the Spurs Organization's face is not a good look. I hope the Clips drop $190M on this guy and experience HEAVY load management. They would deserve it. Their owner is a creepy weirdo kind of like Nephew.

They can't pay him that much.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Taking a small sample of shots as a volume shooter at 27 years old is a garbage stat when you try to compare SIX years from the time he was 19 years old to 25 YO as a developing player. Typical ESPN. Did Pop ever have #2 go as many minutes as the Nursemaid did last night in a non-OT game?

The point is not about the fact that this guy is a great player. The FACTs are that he and his group cannot be trusted to be available to have him play lets say 80-90% of his games in a RS. No back to backs might continue. He was "broken down" in 2018 and could not get past the 2nd round in 2017. Paying a Supermax to this guy would have been a questionable decision at best ESPECIALLY last summer. Nephew is a snake. He will always be a snake. I don't care if his team wins a championship some time in the future. If you can't see this, you are blind.

Spitting in Pop's face and the Spurs Organization's face is not a good look. I hope the Clips drop $190M on this guy and experience HEAVY load management. They would deserve it. Their owner is a creepy weirdo kind of like Nephew.

when he had a hot hand, pop pulls him out of the game
when he wanted more minutes, pop pulls him out of the game
hot hand, yet ignore on offense by scrubs on the team

put urself in his shoes, what would u do?

[TXstbobcat]

They can't pay him that much.

i think that the most that the Clippers can give him for a max is 140M

[TDomination]

https://i.ibb.co/kc91Y4T/Kawhi-Postseason.jpg

"not worth the max:cry"
"DeKobe is a better passer:cry"
"b-b-but he only played 40 games this season, he's not durable:cry"

its funny how at the end of the 2017 playoffs, everyone here knew that Kawhi getting hurt in game 1 changed everything. We all knew the kind of player he was/is. We knew that we could have had a good chance to take out the warriors that series if he had never gotten hurt.

Then his rehab/group/uncle happened. And everything changed.

Just because we hate the guy for doing what he did does not mean no one recognized how great he was. Why do you think so many fans are so bitter towards Kawhi? Cause he was an amazing player that THE SPURS drafted and helped develop into the player he is today.

Its just funny how fans throw the fact that he's doing so well in Toronto in Spurs fans face and say "SEE, i told you he was good and was deserving of a max contract"

Well no duh, but his group/uncle/rehab/game management ruined any chance of that. POP loved him some Kawhi, he praised him and mentioned how he truly believed Kawhi was the best player in the NBA in 2017. So if you think the Spurs undervalued Kawhi then you are mistaken. But how can you risk 1/4 of the teams salary cap on a player that is giving off red flags left and right. But if that was the main issue, I'm pretty sure we would have heard more demands on wanting a Max Contract.
But instead we just heard that it was due to not treating his injury properly and because of Parker or whatever so he wants out and wants to go to LA. Or it was just the Uncle who knew San Antonio is a small market that will not help his new agency company grow and whispered in Kawhis ear that it will be better for the both of the them to go to LA.
So even if a max contract was offered, he was still likely gone.

[Clipper Nation]

No one is denying that he isn't a superstar. It's all about seeing him fail and not getting a ring.

He wasn't ringing no matter what this year as long as the Warriors still exist. He already won by answering the skeptics about his health/durability after last season. The man's been balling and straight-up carrying a shit team in Toronto.

Real talk: the Spurs fucked up by not dumping Porker years ago when he was freezing out Kawhi every game. Without Porker around to run him offPERIOD, Kawhi would have been a Spur for life.

[Harry Callahan]

Clipper Guy,

How do you win by giving up $50-60MM you could have earned from the Spurs Guaranteed just by playing ball and not being an A-hole along with his "Group". Kawhi has no attraction regarding endorsements at all to the extent he could make up the money SA could have paid him. He has answered no questions regarding durability by missing every fourth game and never playing a back to back two or three years after his supposed injury occurred. He won't even articulate what is actually wrong with him. The Spurs totally sheltered him for years and he thinks all he has to do is pretend what he and his group did was proper behavior. Look it - Nephew stole over $20MM dollars last season. Period. The guy never was injured in that nothing was torn or broken.

The San Diego Clippers signed a broken Bill Walton a long long time ago and he did nothing for them. I believe Nephew's chronic knee issues are going nowhere and he will have issues for however long he plays - I see a repeat situation. Sign at your own risk Clipps.

[spurs10]

You’re just as pathetic with your constant Pop and Spurs fan bashing. Well there is that! :toast
In fact saying "just as"is being way too kind.

[SpurPadre]

He wasn't ringing no matter what this year as long as the Warriors still exist. He already won by answering the skeptics about his health/durability after last season. The man's been balling and straight-up carrying a shit team in Toronto.

Real talk: the Spurs fucked up by not dumping Porker years ago when he was freezing out Kawhi every game. Without Porker around to run him offPERIOD, Kawhi would have been a Spur for life.

Lol, the pussy missed a third of the season this year! :lmao

[spurs10]

Lol, the ###### missed a third of the season this year! :lmao Don't go putting facts into a perfectly lame argument! Haha!

[SpurPadre]

Don't go putting facts into a perfectly lame argument! Haha!

And he's the first player in NBA history to have not played any second game of back to back while being active in a full season!

[Realdeal1]

I ain't gonna lie .. it stings to see Kawhi slay it in the playoffs .. he should still be a Spur .. damn it

[daslicer]

He wasn't ringing no matter what this year as long as the Warriors still exist. He already won by answering the skeptics about his health/durability after last season. The man's been balling and straight-up carrying a shit team in Toronto.

Real talk: the Spurs fucked up by not dumping Porker years ago when he was freezing out Kawhi every game. Without Porker around to run him offPERIOD, Kawhi would have been a Spur for life.

:lol Wow already defending him before he signs with the Clippers. At least wait until July 1st when he signs with the clippers before knob slobbing him.

1. He's not proving anything to me other then proving my point from last year that he was faking injury. The media knew he was faking it but pushed the narrative he was hurt so they could get him traded to the Lakers.
2. The media for the most part is corrupt and are going to protect these superstars for the most part. Look at Durant for example the worst the media can say about him is that it's debatable if he's the best player in the league. I don't expect them to ever trash #2. If they ever do trash him it won't be for at least another 3-4 years and it would be due to him not ringing in that time period.
3. He didn't leave because of Parker. Stephen A has stated that his mind was made up a long time ago before the Parker fiasco and that he just didn't want to be in SA. Stephen A said that he just wanted to be home. His camp just used Parker as an excuse to leave. If he wanted Parker gone the Spurs would have gotten rid of him to appease #2. Avery Johnson got kicked off the Spurs many years ago due to Duncan hating him and AJ was actually closer to Pop than Parker.
4. He's playing great. Definitely a top 3 player but stop with your typical hyperbole bs in acting like he inherited a lottery team. He inherited basically the same team that had the best record in the East last year along with an improved Siakam.
5. Even if the Raptors don't have a chance of ringing this year due to the Warriors I will still enjoy seeing him lose. They are certain players I have despised over the years and have taken great pleasure in seeing them lose even when they weren't threats to win it all ala Kobe from '04-'07 and '11-'13. I will enjoy it every year whenever #2 loses in the playoffs. Granted he could ring again in the future with the Clippers but we'll see. Nothing is guaranteed.

[spursparker9]

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-rumors-kevin-durant-kawhi-170223557.html

NBA rumors: Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard to consider signing with Nets

[Realdeal1]

Never mind

[GusT15]

Never mind

Hey man,i don't blame you.

Nephew's sister always sucked at explaining what she means on social media.

RIP to whoever it is they lost of course.

[Fusternino]

Just glad Masai got fleeced in the Gasol trade after what he did to us.

[offset formation]

Just glad Masai got fleeced in the Gasol trade after what he did to us.

You mean after what Nephew did to us, right?

He cockblocked every decent trade from the get-go by limiting his destination to only LA. That immediately deflated any and all trade offers. I get disgusted by people that blame PATFO when only one person (or group) deserves every ounce of our animus. Try not to forget this.

As it was, we still got our starting center for the next decade+ out of it and whatever Pop an mold out of DD and the 29th pick.

[Fusternino]

You mean after what Nephew did to us, right?

He cockblocked every decent trade from the get-go by limiting his destination to only LA. That immediately deflated any and all trade offers. I get disgusted by people that blame PATFO when only one person (or group) deserves every ounce of our animus. Try not to forget this.

As it was, we still got our starting center for the next decade+ out of it and whatever Pop an mold out of DD and the 29th pick.

Kawhi yes but also a bit Masai. Fortunately this draft is loaded at the SF position so we could easily get both Duombouya and Louis King while the Raptors are stuck with Gasol's bloated contract after Kawhi goes to work for the lesser Microsoft man.

[Fusternino]

Brett Brown helping us out here. Sending Kawhi packing in the 2nd round. The loser can't even get out of the 2nd round in the East, LOL!

[Dejounte]

Brett Brown helping us out here. Sending Kawhi packing in the 2nd round. The loser can't even get out of the 2nd round in the East, LOL!

Too early to celebrate man.

[Rusty]

http://oi64.tinypic.com/347v97n.jpg

[BillMc]

You mean after what Nephew did to us, right?

He cockblocked every decent trade from the get-go by limiting his destination to only LA. That immediately deflated any and all trade offers. I get disgusted by people that blame PATFO when only one person (or group) deserves every ounce of our animus. Try not to forget this.

As it was, we still got our starting center for the next decade+ out of it and whatever Pop an mold out of DD and the 29th pick.

This x 100.

[BillMc]

:lol Wow already defending him before he signs with the Clippers. At least wait until July 1st when he signs with the clippers before knob slobbing him.

1. He's not proving anything to me other then proving my point from last year that he was faking injury. The media knew he was faking it but pushed the narrative he was hurt so they could get him traded to the Lakers.
2. The media for the most part is corrupt and are going to protect these superstars for the most part. Look at Durant for example the worst the media can say about him is that it's debatable if he's the best player in the league. I don't expect them to ever trash #2. If they ever do trash him it won't be for at least another 3-4 years and it would be due to him not ringing in that time period.
3. He didn't leave because of Parker. Stephen A has stated that his mind was made up a long time ago before the Parker fiasco and that he just didn't want to be in SA. Stephen A said that he just wanted to be home. His camp just used Parker as an excuse to leave. If he wanted Parker gone the Spurs would have gotten rid of him to appease #2. Avery Johnson got kicked off the Spurs many years ago due to Duncan hating him and AJ was actually closer to Pop than Parker.
4. He's playing great. Definitely a top 3 player but stop with your typical hyperbole bs in acting like he inherited a lottery team. He inherited basically the same team that had the best record in the East last year along with an improved Siakam.
5. Even if the Raptors don't have a chance of ringing this year due to the Warriors I will still enjoy seeing him lose. They are certain players I have despised over the years and have taken great pleasure in seeing them lose even when they weren't threats to win it all ala Kobe from '04-'07 and '11-'13. I will enjoy it every year whenever #2 loses in the playoffs. Granted he could ring again in the future with the Clippers but we'll see. Nothing is guaranteed.

Is that true about AJ? I never knew Duncan had a problem with him.

[Fusternino]

The part that's really pissed me off is Raptors fans claiming that they've treated him so much amazingly better. Just sickening.

Go ahead and live with the garbage contracts of Gasol and Lowry! Pfft!

[daslicer]

Is that true about AJ? I never knew Duncan had a problem with him.

Yes Duncan didn't like AJ's constant nagging and also didn't like how he tried to push religion on the team. He put up with it up until the Spurs got swept by the Lakers in '01. AJ was an FA and the Spurs didn't re-sign him. Spurs drafted Parker that summer and AJ responded after the Spurs refused to resign him by saying something along the lines "They drafted a kid to do a man's job." There was a telling interview many years ago during the '06 playoffs where they asked Duncan if he could ever play for AJ and Duncan responded by saying no not a chance. AJ also admitted during his retirement ceremony that he did drive Duncan nuts when he said and I'm paraphrasing "Tim thanks for putting up me."

[Fusternino]

Van Gundy taking shots at Kawhi, LOL!