***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[UZER]

Cater should have to disclose to the viewing audience his role with Impact Sports before every segment on Kawhi.

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

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[ECOV]

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Crater face trying to give secrets to Kerr on how to defend Kawhi. lol pathetic.
whats pathetic is your assumptions LOL:nope

[BillMc]

Forgetting all the anger and accusations on both sides, I wonder if KL might do a 1 + 1 like LeBron did the last few years prior to the Lakers. See if they can make the Finals again (or repeat, as the case maybe) and still have the option to be a FA next year.

[Slippy]

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well the reaction if he leaves for LA will be on another level too. They dont get as much sun there. Haha

Kawhi can get away with load management in the east. In the much tougher west . LA fans and media will always be on another level.:lmao

Kawhi going to be in the news on an unprecedented level.

[Harry Callahan]

Forgetting all the anger and accusations on both sides, I wonder if KL might do a 1 + 1 like LeBron did the last few years prior to the Lakers. See if they can make the Finals again (or repeat, as the case maybe) and still have the option to be a FA next year.

I don't think so Bill, with his physical situation I think he and the group need guaranteed money for four or five years. They want their money, they want to work on their own schedule where back to backs are not demanded EVER.

[Harry Callahan]

I don't know much about Cris Carter, I thought he was regarded as a top NFL receiver. I also assumed he was a clean-cut type of guy. Was he actually snorting coke and drinking during his playing days?

Yes. He was a draft pick of the Philly Eagles and was a bad actor to the extent that the eagles cut him. He then went to Minnesota. I believe he dried out up there.

Telling NFL players to have a fall guy recently at a rookie symposium put on by the NFL 2-3 years ago. Not a good person......AT ALL.

This happens a lot now days but I think he also went through a pretty messy divorce with some unseemly allegations.

Oh, I forgot, accused of intimidation by the husband of a married woman he (Carter) was dating several years ago. Also, accused of sexual harrassment by a makeup artist at ESPN. ESPN settled out of court to avoid a big headache - no longer employed at ESPN. Now at Fox Sports.

[spursparker9]

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Skip being true to his feeling

[bic50]

It was about playing through pain. The same pain he was dealing with playing this playoff series
According to skip Kawhi isn’t even in pain. He knows kawhis body

[bic50]

As long as he does all that to Load Management, tbh. Too bad they no longer have Zaza, though.
You people are pathetic lmao

[JeffDuncan]

According to skip Kawhi isn’t even in pain. He knows kawhis body

Beg pardon? Kindly share the intimate details of how Skip knows Kawhi's body. America wants to know.

[bic50]

The silver lining is this series is going to be first ever that I will be able to enjoy Draymond's dirty play. Looking forward his eye pokes, nut kicks, elbows, hand breaker move.
Still waiting for Kawhi to lose I see :rollin

[bic50]

Beg pardon? Kindly share the intimate details of how Skip knows Kawhi's body. America wants to know.
He literally said Kawhi isn’t hurt

[bic50]

Was that a very hard call? he went to the East, to a 60 win team that already went to the EC the year before.
Exactly. Which is why I didn’t get why some people here thought that pop and the spurs got one over on Kawhi by trading him there.

[cd98]

When Kawhi leaves Toronto after this season, is he going to be known as the franchise killer? Lebron is the coach killer, but Kawhi is the franchise killer.

[JeffDuncan]

He literally said Kawhi isn’t hurt

Oh, is that all. I thought we had some news here.

[Ginobilly]

There is the possibility of him having to go full freelance, if he's willing to do so. And don't think there aren't sports outlets that won't want to capitalize on a full detailed information story of this whole saga to stick it to ESPN. A true accounting of everything to the present day, including how he was treated by ESPN after the July 5th 2018 podcast, is a story that will sell not only nationally but globally! Michael C Wright plans this right, the rites to the spec story he has to tell is going to be werth a pretty penny.

:lmao:greedy

There's going to be a 30 for 30 and a hollywood movie made after the truth comes out. M b jordan as kawhi, ben Affleck as ginobili, robert richard as tp9, emilio estevez as pop, etc

[JeffDuncan]

Thought I'd throw this in, since most are probably unaware of it. Leonard was not the Spurs' first choice in that draft.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ksat.com/sports/nba/spurs/how-the-spurs-nearly-drafted-klay-thompson-instead-of-kawhi-leonard

Klay Thompson was. The Spurs couldn't make the trade for Thompson.

So, there's an alternate universe scenario to ponder. Klay Thompson becomes a Spur, Parker goes to the Warriors (replaced by George Hill, who stays with the Spurs,) and Leonard stays with the Pacers in the East.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Thought I'd throw this in, since most are probably unaware of it. Leonard was not the Spurs' first choice in that draft.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ksat.com/sports/nba/spurs/how-the-spurs-nearly-drafted-klay-thompson-instead-of-kawhi-leonard

Klay Thompson was. The Spurs couldn't make the trade for Thompson.

So, there's an alternate universe scenario to ponder. Klay Thompson becomes a Spur, Parker goes to the Warriors (replaced by George Hill, who stays with the Spurs,) and Leonard stays with the Pacers in the East.

And we don't have any championships or Finals appearances from this decade.

Klay came into his own in 2015 onward

[TDomination]

Exactly. Which is why I didn’t get why some people here thought that pop and the spurs got one over on Kawhi by trading him there.

It was more for personal reasons i think. He hates the cold and was nowhere near California, which is where he wanted to go.
Talent wise, yeah Toronto obviously was going to be pretty good with Kawhi.

[JeffDuncan]

It was more for personal reasons i think. He hates the cold and was nowhere near California, ...

Ok, then why'd he spend all that time in New York? Which is cold and nowhere near Cali. There are scads of doctors in Cali.

[RC_Drunkford]

Ok, then why'd he spend all that time in New York? Which is cold and nowhere near Cali. There are scads of doctors in Cali.

cause Uncle Dennis is located in New Jersey. Knicks and Nets are in the mix for Kawhi, as well as both LA teams. Clippers are favorites

[duncan2k5]

All these conspiracies are silly... ESPN stopping Wright from reporting on Kawhi?? They have reported on MUCH worse drama... Lmfao... U think that company would turn down the opportunity for an exclusive tid bit of info?

Secondly, u guys are stupid to believe most of what was said... These nba guys don't talk to any of them, yet every year they proclaim this or that player is DEFINITELY going to this team or that team (most times are wrong), or feel a certain way about playing with another player (fake news). They don't ever give sources... It's ALL speculation... Kawhi wants to play for the Lakers... Who said that? They just made it up! When they actually do have sources, they say "I spoke to__________"... But 99% of the time they put out a headline talking about what a player will do and when you read the article, it's a throwaway quote from an opposing GM speculating...

Even Chris Carter... Mr inside guy... Said Kawhi wouldn't play in Toronto... The very next day Kawhi is taking team photos... These guys don't know shit

Kawhi was clearly injured, and just because he is playing on it now doesn't mean he could play on it then... Jesus have any of u ever played a sport?

Just because spurs treated the big 3 one way doesn't mean that's how they would treat Kawhi... Pop and gang grew up with the big 3...kawhi was a new dude on the block... Pop's loyalty was more toward seeing Tony and Manu go out in a blaze of glory... And he wanted to put that on Kawhi... Pop, current spurs players, and past spurs players ALL went on national TV to throw shots... While we heard not one peep from Kawhi nor anyone else... If this situation was reversed where Kawhi and camp were publicly bashing the Spurs and the Spurs weren't saying anything, ppl would call Kawhi classless

[TheGreatYacht]

Thought I'd throw this in, since most are probably unaware of it. Leonard was not the Spurs' first choice in that draft.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ksat.com/sports/nba/spurs/how-the-spurs-nearly-drafted-klay-thompson-instead-of-kawhi-leonard

Klay Thompson was. The Spurs couldn't make the trade for Thompson.

So, there's an alternate universe scenario to ponder. Klay Thompson becomes a Spur, Parker goes to the Warriors (replaced by George Hill, who stays with the Spurs,) and Leonard stays with the Pacers in the East.
Woj also said they wanted to take Valenciunas but had to settle with Kawhi, after Toronto (ironically) saved their asses.

[JeffDuncan]

cause Uncle Dennis is located in New Jersey. Knicks and Nets are in the mix for Kawhi, as well as both LA teams. Clippers are favorites

Yes. Damn, look at this, we agree. Leonard went to N.Y. because Uncle was in N.J. Leonard doesn't care about cold weather.

Teams play half their games on the road anyway. San Antonio today, Minnesota tomorrow, in the middle of January. Or, Toronto today, Orlando tomorrow. They're nomads during the season, and in the offseason they can go anyplace.

[duncan2k5]

Yes. Damn, look at this, we agree. Leonard went to N.Y. because Uncle was in N.J. Leonard doesn't care about cold weather.

Teams play half their games on the road anyway. San Antonio today, Minnesota tomorrow, in the middle of January. Or, Toronto today, Orlando tomorrow. They're nomads during the season, and in the offseason they can go anyplace.

But remember Kawhi has a significant other that DOESN'T fly every other day... I actually think wherever he moves would have to do more with her than himself

[JeffDuncan]

But remember Kawhi has a significant other that DOESN'T fly every other day... I actually think wherever he moves would have to do more with her than himself

Also his mother, now that you mention it. I do expect the ladies' voices will be heard on the subject.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

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I remember hating this pussy for partying with LeBron right after 2013 loss

[Mikeanaro]

Exactly. Which is why I didn’t get why some people here thought that pop and the spurs got one over on Kawhi by trading him there.
They see what they want to see I guess.

[Mikeanaro]

I remember hating this pussy for partying with LeBron right after 2013 loss
He is trying to save his ass, if Nephew leaves Toronto it will be Bucks Conference so he is attempting to be a fan favorite and with his shitty performances thats very unlikely.
All about the money, 32 and a mohawk...

[UZER]

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Danny was 9 yrs old in 1999. It’s different on your first rodeo.

[Realdeal1]

What happens to Danny if kawhi leaves to the clippers? Does Danny follow him to LA? Hahaha I don't see Toronto re-signing Danny if kawhi leaves

[FkLA]

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WTF is Danny talking about? He's starting to rub me the wrong way. This was after 5 of them too, '99 was even wilder:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6BhGc4n-Ug

[Amuseddaysleeper]

WTF is Danny talking about? He's starting to rub me the wrong way. This was after 5 of them too, '99 was even wilder:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6BhGc4n-Ug

Toronto’s celebration if they miraculously win the title will be 100 times crazier than SA’s.

Even LeBron was saying they were some of the best he had ever seen in his life.

[gambit1990]

WTF is Danny talking about? He's starting to rub me the wrong way. This was after 5 of them too, '99 was even wilder:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6BhGc4n-Ug
toronto >>>

[tenbeersbold]

Toronto’s celebration if they miraculously win the title will be 100 times crazier than SA’s.

Even LeBron was saying they were some of the best he had ever seen in his life.

Canadians are mostly UK style sports supporters so they are a little more diehard than most US sports fans.Has good sides and bad.

Here in Europe supporters of clubs meet up in prearranged places and batter each other silly on game days.The EU has no wars to send it's psychos to fight so soccer is their release lol

[Trainwreck2100]

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I'll give him this, all the celebrations would have been many times better if the Spurs played downtown, and not in a wasteland.

[Twisted_Dawg]

What happens to Danny if kawhi leaves to the clippers? Does Danny follow him to LA? Hahaha I don't see Toronto re-signing Danny if kawhi leaves

Danny could become like that player that use to follow Rodman around as he was the only player Rodman would ever talk to.

[John B]

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This guy’s a douche tbh

[John B]

Danny could become like that player that use to follow Rodman around as he was the only player Rodman would ever talk to.
Jack Haley

[ElNono]

I'm not gonna lie, I'm going to be massively butthurt if they reach the finals... :lol

that explain things... :lol

[RD2191]

SA fans are trash tbh.

[RD2191]

Canadians are mostly UK style sports supporters so they are a little more diehard than most US sports fans.Has good sides and bad.

Here in Europe supporters of clubs meet up in prearranged places and batter each other silly on game days.The EU has no wars to send it's psychos to fight so soccer is their release lol

:lmao

[Murray2k]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OgGlB4VN-k

Doc doing everything he can to get Kawhi to clippers :wow

[Brazil]

that explain things... :lol

at least I'm being honest

[DeadlyDynasty]

WTF is Danny talking about? He's starting to rub me the wrong way.
Fans of small market teams are completely detached from reality, I've never understood it. We're talking about young people at the height of their power, as well as their physical, sexual, money-making prime. Put yourself in their shoes...do you wanna live where the action is, or in some cow-town where everything closes at 9?

[FkLA]

Fans of small market teams are completely detached from reality, I've never understood it. We're talking about young people at the height of their power, as well as their physical, sexual, money-making prime. Put yourself in their shoes...do you wanna live where the action is, or in some cow-town where everything closes at 9?

Nah, you just have such a hatred for the Spurs that you misinterpreted the whole thing. Danny's quote is in reference to the celebrations not the cities as a whole. I've never been, but I'm sure TOR is more fun than SA and that doesn't bother me one bit, tbh.

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

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[TDomination]

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They should keep that sign up even after he leaves.

[John B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OgGlB4VN-k

Doc doing everything he can to get Kawhi to clippers :wow
He’d be a fool if he leaves Toronto, and start over again. When he is now the new Lebron of the East, cakewalk to the Finals every year.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I've never understood it. We're talking about young people at the height of their power, as well as their physical, sexual, money-making prime.


LMAO. No wonder you're such a douche. You've figured out this is as good as it gets for you. When you're young, chunky, and poor in LA, it's all downhill.

[Collins21]

Kawhi is a much better player than LaMarcus Aldridge so if he doesn't win at least 2 games and the series go at least 6 games then he choked. LaMarcus Aldridge who y'all consider a bum won at least 1 game and went 5 with a worse team.

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

https://twitter.com/Raptors/status/1133809982821019649

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

They should keep that sign up even after he leaves.
Wishful thinking from you. He isn't leaving Toronto for the crappy Clippers or Lakers.

[duncan2k5]

He is trying to save his ass, if Nephew leaves Toronto it will be Bucks Conference so he is attempting to be a fan favorite and with his shitty performances thats very unlikely.
All about the money, 32 and a mohawk...

To be fair, he IS right tho... The raptors get much more support from their fans than the Spurs do... Regardless of the reasons... We can love the Spurs but still realize that another team's fans go harder for their team

[duncan2k5]

Kawhi is a much better player than LaMarcus Aldridge so if he doesn't win at least 2 games and the series go at least 6 games then he choked. LaMarcus Aldridge who y'all consider a bum won at least 1 game and went 5 with a worse team.

Horrible comparison... Lmfao... Warriors were clearly playing down to the competition.. Especially since that was the first game after pop's wife died... They had absolutely no reason to go hard... They knew we didn't have a chance in hell to win... The raptors, on the other hand is a real threat... They will come out swinging

[Collins21]

Horrible comparison... Lmfao... Warriors were clearly playing down to the competition.. Especially since that was the first game after pop's wife died... They had absolutely no reason to go hard... They knew we didn't have a chance in hell to win... The raptors, on the other hand is a real threat... They will come out swinging

Nah no excuses he better win at least two games if not I don't wan to hear shit about how good he is.

[Collins21]

Horrible comparison... Lmfao... Warriors were clearly playing down to the competition.. Especially since that was the first game after pop's wife died... They had absolutely no reason to go hard... They knew we didn't have a chance in hell to win... The raptors, on the other hand is a real threat... They will come out swinging

Once again you're lying like always. Klay Thompson was pissed of in the postgame because he wanted to sweep them so don't tell me they let them win. Bottom line is the Spurs took that game and if Kawhi is that guy he has to win at least two games.

[DPG21920]

Cris Carter mouthpiece already going on air and saying Kawhi to the Clippers.

Las Vegas books releasing their Kawhi free agent odds and Clippers are HEAVY favorites.

Do the math. Had little/nothing to do with what SA did. Had nothing to do with anything TOR did. Kawhi has been angling for LA for 2 years - before any injury and before his teammates hurt his feelings.

[TDomination]

Cris Carter mouthpiece already going on air and saying Kawhi to the Clippers.

Las Vegas books releasing their Kawhi free agent odds and Clippers are HEAVY favorites.

Do the math. Had little/nothing to do with what SA did. Had nothing to do with anything TOR did. Kawhi has been angling for LA for 2 years - before any injury and before his teammates hurt his feelings.

if he does leave , we'll for sure have our answer.

[TheGoatishere]

https://youtu.be/WH3edZIs66Y

[kobyz]

I'll bet on the Knicks...

[DeadlyDynasty]

LMAO. No wonder you're such a douche. You've figured out this is as good as it gets for you. When you're young, chunky, and poor in LA, it's all downhill.
:lol but when you're poor and chunky in San Antonio it's business as usual

[TD 21]

:lmao I swear, when the trade went down, I knew that comment was coming from Green at some point. Predictable Toronto arrogance, with no context.

At what point does his free pass end? Let's be honest and fair, if scumbag had made that comment, he'd be getting trashed.



Cris Carter mouthpiece already going on air and saying Kawhi to the Clippers.

Las Vegas books releasing their Kawhi free agent odds and Clippers are HEAVY favorites.

Do the math. Had little/nothing to do with what SA did. Had nothing to do with anything TOR did. Kawhi has been angling for LA for 2 years - before any injury and before his teammates hurt his feelings.

Let's not forget, Carter claimed a month or so ago that "the Raptors were in the drivers seat". Granted, before that he was long steadfast about the Clippers, but still.

You lose all credibility when you speak in absolutes, only to go back and forth.

You'd think all these idiots (namely Smith) would have learned by now, no matter what you've been told or believe, always leave the door open.

[Chillen]

Well were going to see just how great Kawhi really is vs a team that has made 5 straight NBA finals. If he can pull this off and beat this team than he is no doubt one of the games best players if not the best.

[RD2191]

Cris Carter is a fucking idiot and has zero credibility. LOL at anyone taking that asshole seriously.

[Mikeanaro]

To be fair, he IS right tho... The raptors get much more support from their fans than the Spurs do... Regardless of the reasons... We can love the Spurs but still realize that another team's fans go harder for their team
Thats not my point, he is not about basketball, he is terrible at it and the only reason he is making this kind of statements is for the money.

[Cardinal]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/sports/kawhi-leonard-raptors-finals.html

"While the ever-private Spurs aren’t talking about any of this, it is clear they’re still grieving and healing from the loss of Leonard, even after what ranked, by most accounts, as a fine bounce-back season without him.

Although the Kawhi-less Spurs won 48 games to extend their league-record run of playoff appearances to 22 seasons in a row, then pushed the second-seeded Denver Nuggets to seven games in the first round, rest assured that they remain crestfallen over Leonard’s departure.

Spurs Coach Gregg Popovich, in all of his 25 years in charge in San Antonio alongside his trusted front-office ace, R.C. Buford, has had only two players ask out. The first, LaMarcus Aldridge, canceled his request after a face-to-face meeting with Popovich smoothed over any concerns. With Leonard, Popovich tried a similar meeting, only to concede shortly thereafter that the Spurs — after so many years making player comfort an organizational priority — had no choice but to heed Leonard’s insistence on being traded and get the most in return that they could rather than lose him outright in free agency."

[DPG21920]

:lmao I swear, when the trade went down, I knew that comment was coming from Green at some point. Predictable Toronto arrogance, with no context.

At what point does his free pass end? Let's be honest and fair, if scumbag had made that comment, he'd be getting trashed.




Let's not forget, Carter claimed a month or so ago that "the Raptors were in the drivers seat". Granted, before that he was long steadfast about the Clippers, but still.

You lose all credibility when you speak in absolutes, only to go back and forth.

You'd think all these idiots (namely Smith) would have learned by now, no matter what you've been told or believe, always leave the door open.

If you are looking at guys like CC logically then sure. But CC’s purpose is to do the bidding of his guys. It’s not him flip flopping, it’s him sharing information with a purpose. When he was saying TOR was in the drivers seat it was because Kawhi had not been a hero. Kawhi’s camp is finally playing the PR game well after the disaster in SA.

Now that Kawhi is a hero and got them to the finals? You start dripping the news about the real intentions and you already have TOR fans saying “so what if he leaves, he got us to the finals!!”. It’s smart and that’s what CC is doing here.

[RD2191]

If you are looking at guys like CC logically then sure. But CC’s purpose is to do the bidding of his guys. It’s not him flip flopping, it’s him sharing information with a purpose. When he was saying TOR was in the drivers seat it was because Kawhi had not been a hero. Kawhi’s camp is finally playing the PR game well after the disaster in SA.

Now that Kawhi is a hero and got them to the finals? You start dripping the news about the real intentions and you already have TOR fans saying “so what if he leaves, he got us to the finals!!”. It’s smart and that’s what CC is doing here.

CC knows jack shit. He's just talking out of his ass.

[loveforthegame]

Clippers ... :lol

Stein reporting that the Clippers quietly made inquiries to buy the Klaw logo back from Nike to use in their free agency pitch to Leonard. Nike will rebuff for as long as they can.

:lol

[duncan2k5]

Nah no excuses he better win at least two games if not I don't wan to hear shit about how good he is.

That's wat yall said about the last series... Lmfao!!! Yall said he better win or else... And he won! Now u moving the goalposts... BTW I have the raptors winning the series... So there's that... But I'll probably make excuses and move the goal post more and say he needs to win a next one the following year to be considered good

[duncan2k5]

Once again you're lying like always. Klay Thompson was pissed of in the postgame because he wanted to sweep them so don't tell me they let them win. Bottom line is the Spurs took that game and if Kawhi is that guy he has to win at least two games.

That's Klay... Klay isn't the team... And the warriors didn't LET the Spurs win... They just didn't play with urgency because they knew we weren't a threat

[duncan2k5]

Cris Carter mouthpiece already going on air and saying Kawhi to the Clippers.

Las Vegas books releasing their Kawhi free agent odds and Clippers are HEAVY favorites.

Do the math. Had little/nothing to do with what SA did. Had nothing to do with anything TOR did. Kawhi has been angling for LA for 2 years - before any injury and before his teammates hurt his feelings.

Chris Carter the "mouthpiece" also said there's no way Kawhi plays in Toronto... He doesn't know shit... He is speculating like everyone else

[duncan2k5]

Well were going to see just how great Kawhi really is vs a team that has made 5 straight NBA finals. If he can pull this off and beat this team than he is no doubt one of the games best players if not the best.

He is already one of the games best players... The warriors beat everyone every year... By ur standards no other team has players that could be considered one of the best

[duncan2k5]

Thats not my point, he is not about basketball, he is terrible at it and the only reason he is making this kind of statements is for the money.

Fair point

[Uriel]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/sports/kawhi-leonard-raptors-finals.html

"While the ever-private Spurs aren’t talking about any of this, it is clear they’re still grieving and healing from the loss of Leonard, even after what ranked, by most accounts, as a fine bounce-back season without him.

Although the Kawhi-less Spurs won 48 games to extend their league-record run of playoff appearances to 22 seasons in a row, then pushed the second-seeded Denver Nuggets to seven games in the first round, rest assured that they remain crestfallen over Leonard’s departure.

Spurs Coach Gregg Popovich, in all of his 25 years in charge in San Antonio alongside his trusted front-office ace, R.C. Buford, has had only two players ask out. The first, LaMarcus Aldridge, canceled his request after a face-to-face meeting with Popovich smoothed over any concerns. With Leonard, Popovich tried a similar meeting, only to concede shortly thereafter that the Spurs — after so many years making player comfort an organizational priority — had no choice but to heed Leonard’s insistence on being traded and get the most in return that they could rather than lose him outright in free agency."

:cry

[DPG21920]

Chris Carter the "mouthpiece" also said there's no way Kawhi plays in Toronto... He doesn't know shit... He is speculating like everyone else

Tbh Kawhi prob didn’t want to be in TOR and they were using CC to try and scare them off.

[FkLA]

Clippers ... :lol

Stein reporting that the Clippers quietly made inquiries to buy the Klaw logo back from Nike to use in their free agency pitch to Leonard. Nike will rebuff for as long as they can.

:lol

That klaw logo is beautiful. Easily the best in the league, and with his career trajectory had the chance to be the most iconic logo since the jumpman logo, imo. I hope the faggot never gets it back, tbh.

[Johojowhite]

https://twitter.com/ALaForce/status/1133855801171431424?s=20

Proof that Kawhi’s injury was real. Here he is talking about managing the injury this season.

[cool cat]

https://twitter.com/ALaForce/status/1133855801171431424?s=20

Proof that Kawhi’s injury was real. Here he is talking about managing the injury this season.

And magically in the Playoffs he can play ever other night 40+ mins a game

[BillMc]

Cris Carter is a fucking idiot and has zero credibility. LOL at anyone taking that asshole seriously.
This.

He and Cowherd are the worst on TV

[BillMc]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/sports/kawhi-leonard-raptors-finals.html

"While the ever-private Spurs aren’t talking about any of this, it is clear they’re still grieving and healing from the loss of Leonard, even after what ranked, by most accounts, as a fine bounce-back season without him.

Although the Kawhi-less Spurs won 48 games to extend their league-record run of playoff appearances to 22 seasons in a row, then pushed the second-seeded Denver Nuggets to seven games in the first round, rest assured that they remain crestfallen over Leonard’s departure.

Spurs Coach Gregg Popovich, in all of his 25 years in charge in San Antonio alongside his trusted front-office ace, R.C. Buford, has had only two players ask out. The first, LaMarcus Aldridge, canceled his request after a face-to-face meeting with Popovich smoothed over any concerns. With Leonard, Popovich tried a similar meeting, only to concede shortly thereafter that the Spurs — after so many years making player comfort an organizational priority — had no choice but to heed Leonard’s insistence on being traded and get the most in return that they could rather than lose him outright in free agency."

:(

[TimmyBuckets]

https://twitter.com/ALaForce/status/1133855801171431424?s=20

Proof that Kawhi’s injury was real. Here he is talking about managing the injury this season.

And when he said he would stay in SA? Can't trust a liar.

[313]

https://twitter.com/ALaForce/status/1133855801171431424?s=20

Proof that Kawhi’s injury was real. Here he is talking about managing the injury this season.
No one ever said he was faking it. Kawhi will deal with tendinopathy for the rest of his career, and it will need to be managed.

When I say managed, I don't mean playing 9 games the whole season. He wanted out of SA, and used it as an excuse. As well as trying to disguise his status to increase his leverage in a trade scenario.

If Kawhi and his team didn't have issues with SA prior to this debacle, they would've been up front with SA like they were with TOR. Nope, the plan was to force Patfo's hand and hopefully land in LA. Patfo tried their best, but Kawhi and his team played it really well.

I don't blame Kawhi and KD for doing whatever they feel is best for their families, and their own happiness... but it's slippery slope we're on right now in the NBA. Where NBA players do whatever they want and the media will do damage control to protect the product. The anti-capitalist/anti-billionaire in me appreciates the gestures, but the NBA fan in me can't help but be despise them for not sticking to the status quo.

[apalisoc_9]

No one ever said he was faking it. Kawhi will deal with tendinopathy for the rest of his career, and it will need to be managed.

When I say managed, I don't mean playing 9 games the whole season. He wanted out of SA, and used it as an excuse. As well as trying to disguise his status to increase his leverage in a trade scenario.

If Kawhi and his team didn't have issues with SA prior to this debacle, they would've been up front with SA like they were with TOR. Nope, the plan was to force Patfo's hand and hopefully land in LA. Patfo tried their best, but Kawhi and his team played it really well.

I don't blame Kawhi and KD for doing whatever they feel is best for their families, and their own happiness... but it's slippery slope we're on right now in the NBA. Where NBA players do whatever they want and the media will do damage control to protect the product. The anti-capitalist/anti-billionaire in me appreciates the gestures, but the NBA fan in me can't help but be despise them for not sticking to the status quo.

Kawhi has had tendionapathy since his days in San Diego State yet hes had 70+ games seasons. I believe the medical stuff managed this injury fairly well until his 9 game season. More than likely, he was experiening more pain than usual but the spurs thought it was the average day.

I believe kawhi 100% that this season he was trully in pain. I think when you miss a whole season your pain treshold is reduced significantly.

[sasaint]

No one ever said he was faking it. Kawhi will deal with tendinopathy for the rest of his career, and it will need to be managed.

When I say managed, I don't mean playing 9 games the whole season. He wanted out of SA, and used it as an excuse. As well as trying to disguise his status to increase his leverage in a trade scenario.

If Kawhi and his team didn't have issues with SA prior to this debacle, they would've been up front with SA like they were with TOR. Nope, the plan was to force Patfo's hand and hopefully land in LA. Patfo tried their best, but Kawhi and his team played it really well.

I don't blame Kawhi and KD for doing whatever they feel is best for their families, and their own happiness... but it's slippery slope we're on right now in the NBA. Where NBA players do whatever they want and the media will do damage control to protect the product. The anti-capitalist/anti-billionaire in me appreciates the gestures, but the NBA fan in me can't help but be despise them for not sticking to the status quo.

Good post - especially the bolded comment. :tu

[313]

More than likely, he was experiening more pain than usual but the spurs thought it was the average day.I don't think the most conservative team in sports, underestimated the pain he was dealing with. Rather, they kept giving him more rope, until they didn't have any left. With Kawhi's camp becoming ever more distant, somewhere along the line they probably realized what was going on, and that spurred the players only meeting, "ask his team" comments etc etc...which probably just pushed kawhi further away.

Strange ordeal altogether. I guess the alternative was requesting a trade to LA mid season like Davis, and having it possibly fall thru, then be forced to face those fans for the rest of the season.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Cris Carter mouthpiece already going on air and saying Kawhi to the Clippers.

Las Vegas books releasing their Kawhi free agent odds and Clippers are HEAVY favorites.

Do the math. Had little/nothing to do with what SA did. Had nothing to do with anything TOR did. Kawhi has been angling for LA for 2 years - before any injury and before his teammates hurt his feelings.

Yup, no matter what Kawhi dick suckers try to say

[apalisoc_9]

Its fairly obvious.

I've been trolling around with Kawhi on a clippers jersey since 2016. :lol. Maybe he get the idea from my Kawhi in a clippers jersey sig in 2015. :lol.

San Antonio just never made sense for Kawhi from a PR stand point. They way he handled the request was bitchmade, but its clear kawhi and his camp want to be treated like the Jordans of the league and hes getting that now in Toronto.

San Antonio just doesnt make sense for players looking to build a legacy.

[apalisoc_9]

Its possible, kawhis camp believed the Spurs wouldnt honor his request so they took extreme measures.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Has everyone forgotten that when Kawhi came back for those 9 games last year, it wasn't the quad injury that sidelined him again? He supposedly had a "partial tear" in his shoulder, and the leg wasn't even mentioned. That was in his 8th game back, and afterward he said in an interview that it "wasn't serious". He sat out a week, came back for one game where he played good, and it was 4 days later when the Spurs "shut him down indefinitely".

At the time Pop had this to say:
"It hasn't responded the way we wanted it to," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich told the San Antonio Express-News on Wednesday.
"He's given it a shot. He's frustrated as hell. He wants to play badly. But if we're going to err, we're going to do it on the side of health and being wise."
"I'm probably more conservative than most, but the trainers, the rehab people, the doctors, the coaches, we all talked about this for a long time," Popovich said.

So did the Spurs rush him back that first time? Was his leg still bothering him then? This is what Kawhi said in a post game interview:"I had been just trying to stay ready in case he called me," Leonard said. "The hardest things have been finding my wind, running the play calls, building the chemistry again, the defensive rotations -- really everything. [Not leg pain.] I have been taking my time, not skipping any steps, so I can be healthy and ready down the road."

And here's a video (below) of his last game before they shut him down. He's not showing any sign of the leg hurting. None. In fact, the comments were all about how his speed was better, and he looked better than in any of the games since he returned. And remember - that was the last game before they shut him down for the season. Nothing I've seen adds up with what Uncle is claiming now. I don't know what happened, but it wasn't what we're being told.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIs66WgnXg8

[TDomination]

Its fairly obvious.

I've been trolling around with Kawhi on a clippers jersey since 2016. :lol. Maybe he get the idea from my Kawhi in a clippers jersey sig in 2015. :lol.

San Antonio just never made sense for Kawhi from a PR stand point. They way he handled the request was bitchmade, but its clear kawhi and his camp want to be treated like the Jordans of the league and hes getting that now in Toronto.

San Antonio just doesnt make sense for players looking to build a legacy.

you do realize that iceman, admiral and Timmy are legends right? And if you’re talking about something like lebron has, he build his legacy in Cleveland. Not L.A, not NY, not Boston. If your good enough and your winning, doesn’t matter where you play.

[duncan2k5]

Tbh Kawhi prob didn’t want to be in TOR and they were using CC to try and scare them off.

But he was saying that AFTER the trade went through... So what ur saying makes no sense... He is out of the loop... Just because he knows then he uses that to bolster himself at ESPN as some sort of insider... They don't tell him shit

[duncan2k5]

And magically in the Playoffs he can play ever other night 40+ mins a game

Have you seen him? He is obviously playing hurt

[duncan2k5]

No one ever said he was faking it. Kawhi will deal with tendinopathy for the rest of his career, and it will need to be managed.

When I say managed, I don't mean playing 9 games the whole season. He wanted out of SA, and used it as an excuse. As well as trying to disguise his status to increase his leverage in a trade scenario.

If Kawhi and his team didn't have issues with SA prior to this debacle, they would've been up front with SA like they were with TOR. Nope, the plan was to force Patfo's hand and hopefully land in LA. Patfo tried their best, but Kawhi and his team played it really well.

I don't blame Kawhi and KD for doing whatever they feel is best for their families, and their own happiness... but it's slippery slope we're on right now in the NBA. Where NBA players do whatever they want and the media will do damage control to protect the product. The anti-capitalist/anti-billionaire in me appreciates the gestures, but the NBA fan in me can't help but be despise them for not sticking to the status quo.

"no one ever said he was faking it" have you read the forums?

[duncan2k5]

Good post - especially the bolded comment. :tu

But they WERE upfront... The Spurs just didn't believe him... He WAS telling them he was in pain after games!

[duncan2k5]

I don't think the most conservative team in sports, underestimated the pain he was dealing with. Rather, they kept giving him more rope, until they didn't have any left. With Kawhi's camp becoming ever more distant, somewhere along the line they probably realized what was going on, and that spurred the players only meeting, "ask his team" comments etc etc...which probably just pushed kawhi further away.

Strange ordeal altogether. I guess the alternative was requesting a trade to LA mid season like Davis, and having it possibly fall thru, then be forced to face those fans for the rest of the season.

That most conservative team stuff is old... They did that for the big 3 that they had significant history with... They didn't do that for other players nearly to that extent

Besides if we can acknowledge that Pop changed as a coach since his past, why can't we say the same for the staff?

They had Gasol playing on a broken foot for goodness sakes, after misdiagnosing him!

And all the ppl talking about Tony coming back from injury... The guy was trash when he came back...and he is a PG for goodness sakes... The demand is different on his body than the demand Kawhi has on his... Plus he had no future to consider... His legacy was cemented

[duncan2k5]

Has everyone forgotten that when Kawhi came back for those 9 games last year, it wasn't the quad injury that sidelined him again? He supposedly had a "partial tear" in his shoulder, and the leg wasn't even mentioned. That was in his 8th game back, and afterward he said in an interview that it "wasn't serious". He sat out a week, came back for one game where he played good, and it was 4 days later when the Spurs "shut him down indefinitely".

At the time Pop had this to say:
"It hasn't responded the way we wanted it to," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich told the San Antonio Express-News on Wednesday.
"He's given it a shot. He's frustrated as hell. He wants to play badly. But if we're going to err, we're going to do it on the side of health and being wise."
"I'm probably more conservative than most, but the trainers, the rehab people, the doctors, the coaches, we all talked about this for a long time," Popovich said.

So did the Spurs rush him back that first time? Was his leg still bothering him then? This is what Kawhi said in a post game interview:"I had been just trying to stay ready in case he called me," Leonard said. "The hardest things have been finding my wind, running the play calls, building the chemistry again, the defensive rotations -- really everything. [Not leg pain.] I have been taking my time, not skipping any steps, so I can be healthy and ready down the road."

And here's a video (below) of his last game before they shut him down. He's not showing any sign of the leg hurting. None. In fact, the comments were all about how his speed was better, and he looked better than in any of the games since he returned. And remember - that was the last game before they shut him down for the season. Nothing I've seen adds up with what Uncle is claiming now. I don't know what happened, but it wasn't what we're being told.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIs66WgnXg8

Bro... Kawhi never complained about being hurt even in the Bucks series when he was OBVIOUSLY hurt! Lol...we can't give a guy credit for not complaining when he is on our team, but use it against him when he is on a different one

[duncan2k5]

Has everyone forgotten that when Kawhi came back for those 9 games last year, it wasn't the quad injury that sidelined him again? He supposedly had a "partial tear" in his shoulder, and the leg wasn't even mentioned. That was in his 8th game back, and afterward he said in an interview that it "wasn't serious". He sat out a week, came back for one game where he played good, and it was 4 days later when the Spurs "shut him down indefinitely".

At the time Pop had this to say:
"It hasn't responded the way we wanted it to," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich told the San Antonio Express-News on Wednesday.
"He's given it a shot. He's frustrated as hell. He wants to play badly. But if we're going to err, we're going to do it on the side of health and being wise."
"I'm probably more conservative than most, but the trainers, the rehab people, the doctors, the coaches, we all talked about this for a long time," Popovich said.

So did the Spurs rush him back that first time? Was his leg still bothering him then? This is what Kawhi said in a post game interview:"I had been just trying to stay ready in case he called me," Leonard said. "The hardest things have been finding my wind, running the play calls, building the chemistry again, the defensive rotations -- really everything. [Not leg pain.] I have been taking my time, not skipping any steps, so I can be healthy and ready down the road."

And here's a video (below) of his last game before they shut him down. He's not showing any sign of the leg hurting. None. In fact, the comments were all about how his speed was better, and he looked better than in any of the games since he returned. And remember - that was the last game before they shut him down for the season. Nothing I've seen adds up with what Uncle is claiming now. I don't know what happened, but it wasn't what we're being told.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIs66WgnXg8

U are picking and choosing what to point out... During the 9 games this very same forum were saying he came back too quickly based on how he looked while playing... It was more than just being tired...

Secondly Kawhi himself said the bigger issue wasn't really how he felt in game, but the day AFTER... so showing a clip of his latest game is dancing around the issue that Kawhi had... I remember ppl pointing out him limping to the podium at times during the 9 game stretch

[Harry Callahan]

Allie LaForce had some really hard hitting questions for Nephew- she probably had to provide an Uncle Dennis pre-approved list of questions anyway.

[cool cat]

Have you seen him? He is obviously playing hurt

He is still playing though and that's the point, from the start it was all about his pain management. After his last game he played with the Spurs he said he needed to play more, and then he disappeared.

[Johojowhite]

https://twitter.com/gottaJED/status/1134173583947771905?s=20

[duncan2k5]

He is still playing though and that's the point, from the start it was all about his pain management. After his last game he played with the Spurs he said he needed to play more, and then he disappeared.

Because pop shut him down! He was still reporting that he was feeling pain the day after games... Kawhi was obviously trying to play until the FO put the championship run of Manu and Tony over the longevity of their current star... Their loyalty to the old guys finally bit them in the behind as they sent them our to the media to bash the quietest guy in the league on national TV... Bowen and Robinson included... Timmy stayed the hell out of it because he knew better

[cpds421]

Because pop shut him down! He was still reporting that he was feeling pain the day after games... Kawhi was obviously trying to play until the FO put the championship run of Manu and Tony over the longevity of their current star... Their loyalty to the old guys finally bit them in the behind as they sent them our to the media to bash the quietest guy in the league on national TV... Bowen and Robinson included... Timmy stayed the hell out of it because he knew better

Why would Tim say something? He’s retired and probably didn’t care about traitors like nephew.

Also, timvp said that nephew ignored calls from Tim and David.

[Budkin]

The point is that Uncle Dennis hated San Antonio as a city, and wanted his nephew to play in their hometown of LA. That's it. Nothing else really matters, Kawhi would NEVER have stayed on the Spurs after this year regardless of anything else.

[Dejounte]

I dont get why people try with duncan2k5. This Kawhi nut rider twists stories to whatever he sees fit to his narrative. He is delusional as fuck.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

http://i67.tinypic.com/10d6z3n.jpg

Fuck both!

[FkLA]

https://twitter.com/gottaJED/status/1134173583947771905?s=20

This better be bullshit.

[ZeusWillJudge]

https://twitter.com/gottaJED/status/1134173583947771905?s=20


DDR's next tweet: Twenty thousand people here, and I don't have a single friend.

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/gottaJED/status/1134173583947771905?s=20

Trade this loser

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

https://twitter.com/gottaJED/status/1134173583947771905?s=20

Danny Green 2.0

[Keepin' it real]

No one ever said he was faking it.

Say what???

[eyeh8u]

DDR's next tweet: Twenty thousand people here, and I don't have a single friend.https://i.ibb.co/ncWjZnX/Capture-Custom.png

[Realdeal1]

So is derozan at the game ?

[Genovaswitness]

So is derozan at the game ?
Hope he is so he can see how massive a POS she is

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Spurs are honestly the dumbest franchise in the NBA

Kawhi looks like a genius

[Slippy]

http://i67.tinypic.com/10d6z3n.jpg

Fuck both!

Haha i picked my poison. Dubs . Not looking good so far for game 1

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/1133080765095403520

[timtonymanu]

Spurs are honestly the dumbest franchise in the NBA

Kawhi looks like a genius

"Spurs got the best offer they could" :lol No Siakam, trading Danny, but it's okay we still have Patty's culture.

[slick'81]

Raptors looking to close these fckers out

[SuperCam]

PATFO traded Kiwi and didn't even get a top 3 player on Toronto in return :lmao

[Genovaswitness]

:lmaoculture idiots ITT


LETS FROG BRO

[NASpurs]

https://i.ibb.co/ncWjZnX/Capture-Custom.png


:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao holy shit

[ZeusWillJudge]

https://i.ibb.co/ncWjZnX/Capture-Custom.png


LMAO. That's perfect! It took me a second to see it, but then I cracked up. True artist.

[NASpurs]

Van Fleet :wow

[Budkin]

Haha i picked my poison. Dubs . Not looking good so far for game 1

Same.

[ace3g]

Still wished we got a SF back in the trade...

Also knowing DeRozan's playoff history - if there was a trade for 2nd tier player(s) that at least had positive playoff history, I would have gone with that deal instead.

[Genovaswitness]

Let’s frog bro!!!!!

[ace3g]

Raptors

Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


P. Siakam (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3149673/pascal-siakam) PF
39
14-17
2-3
2-2
3
5
8
5
1
2
2
3
+7
32


K. Leonard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6450/kawhi-leonard) SF
43
5-14
3-6
10-12
1
7
8
5
1
0
2
3
+14
23


M. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3206/marc-gasol) C
30
6-10
2-4
6-6
0
7
7
1
2
1
0
6
+8
20


K. Lowry (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3012/kyle-lowry) PG
36
2-9
1-5
2-2
0
6
6
9
1
0
3
5
+14
7


D. Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green) SG
29
4-9
3-7
0-0
1
1
2
1
1
2
0
1
+5
11


Bench
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


N. Powell (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2595516/norman-powell) SF
5
0-1
0-1
2-2
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
2
+2
2


S. Ibaka (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3439/serge-ibaka) C
17
2-7
0-2
1-2
2
1
3
1
0
1
2
3
-1
5


F. VanVleet (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2991230/fred-vanvleet) PG
33
5-8
1-4
4-6
0
1
1
2
0
0
1
3
+14
15


P. McCaw (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3137730/patrick-mccaw) SG
7
1-2
1-1
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
-3

[lefty]

:lol Drake trolling Dray

[bagtec]

Y’all hoes

[Slippy]

Raptors

Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


P. Siakam (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3149673/pascal-siakam) PF
39
14-17
2-3
2-2
3
5
8
5
1
2
2
3
+7
32


K. Leonard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6450/kawhi-leonard) SF
43
5-14
3-6
10-12
1
7
8
5
1
0
2
3
+14
23


M. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3206/marc-gasol) C
30
6-10
2-4
6-6
0
7
7
1
2
1
0
6
+8
20


K. Lowry (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3012/kyle-lowry) PG
36
2-9
1-5
2-2
0
6
6
9
1
0
3
5
+14
7


D. Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green) SG
29
4-9
3-7
0-0
1
1
2
1
1
2
0
1
+5
11


Bench
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


N. Powell (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2595516/norman-powell) SF
5
0-1
0-1
2-2
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
2
+2
2


S. Ibaka (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3439/serge-ibaka) C
17
2-7
0-2
1-2
2
1
3
1
0
1
2
3
-1
5


F. VanVleet (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2991230/fred-vanvleet) PG
33
5-8
1-4
4-6
0
1
1
2
0
0
1
3
+14
15


P. McCaw (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3137730/patrick-mccaw) SG
7
1-2
1-1
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
-3




Siakem and Green for raptors were huge.

[slick'81]

G.st is toast if kd doesn't return

[Spurs fever]

They need KD but they are probably also rusty.

[NASpurs]

Siakem and Green for raptors were huge.

CIA Pop just wanting to help that franchise out by being a total fucking idiot.

[RD2191]

Shit night by Kawhi but Siakam delivered. Good stuff. :tu

[gambit1990]

truth bomb from earlier in the season:

warriors have never had to face a roster like this tbh.

this roster is laughably better than the cavs team that beat the 72-10 warriors.

[gambit1990]

just wish i had been in vegas before the season started because i had the raps winning it all after they got kawhi :depressed

i've thought about betting online but i just don't trust it tbh...

[timtonymanu]

Oh well we still got DeRozan and his 20/6/6 empty stats to cheer on next year

[slick'81]

Oh well we still got DeRozan and his 20/6/6 empty stats to cheer on next year

valuable af bro

[gambit1990]

spurs probably could've gotten siakam but didn't demand him... they probably just insisted on him but then didn't wanna include someone like forbes in the deal :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

At least Spurs fans have something to hang onto if Kawhi doesn't win Finals MVP:lol

[timvp]

Congrats on that second ring, Nephew :depressed

[NASpurs]

Oh well we still got DeRozan and his 20/6/6 empty stats to cheer on next year

20/6/6 with shitty defense, no 3 point shot and wilts in the playoffs. What a stud.

[RC_Drunkford]

Siakam > DePression

[look_at_g_shred]

20/6/6 with shitty defense, no 3 point shot and wilts in the playoffs. What a stud.
My G, change that fucking avatar

[loveforthegame]

Subpar game by Leonard and still put up 23-8-5. Unreal.

[gambit1990]

if you're surprised then you weren't listening.

11/11/18:

is it legal for a team to offer a player part ownership in the team?

cause the raps are ringing.

[JeffDuncan]

Congrats on that second ring, Nephew :depressed

Ok, so the plan now is for us all to melt down over what some other team does in a game. In the good old days, we only melted down over the Spurs.

I doubt it's over yet.

[NASpurs]

My G, change that fucking avatar

I'll keep Lonnie's goofy looking ass temporarily as my avatar

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Fuck Kawhi!!

But :lol Warriors

[SuperCam]

first Dick Jefferson, now Kiwi :wow

[gameFACE]

As more time passes the more it seems evident the Spurs fucked up. So did Uncle Dennis but he's the one laughing now.

[Hoops Czar]

20/6/6 with shitty defense, no 3 point shot and wilts in the playoffs. What a stud.
Don't forget Poeltl's 5.5/5.3/1.2 with no jump shot.

[JeffDuncan]

Don't forget Poeltl's 5.5/5.3/1.2 with no jump shot.

Also, don't forget the $5 million the Spurs paid the Raps. Sigh.

[Nathan89]

Gsw is just a bunch of front runners. It's pathetic how much talent they need.

[Nathan89]

I'll keep Lonnie's goofy looking ass temporarily as my avatar

That's a great avatar.

[Nathan89]

Toronto is big time fucked if KD returns. Kawhi is still not healthy. I thought he was going to look better.

[Nathan89]

KD still hasn't practiced tho so he may not return or could return injured. Plus Iguadala flared up his injury this game. So things are looking great overall for Toronto.

[TDomination]

The best defensive team the warriors have faced previously to this series was the 2017 spurs in the wcf. We all know how that one was going until kawhi went down.

Golden state is in real trouble. Kawhi and DnGreen have always given the warriors fits.

Its just depressing to know that they are spurs players helping another team win a title.

Oh well.

go spurs go

[Hoops Czar]

Toronto is big time fucked if KD returns. Kawhi is still not healthy. I thought he was going to look better.
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself. :lol

[Hoops Czar]

The best defensive team the warriors have faced previously to this series was the 2017 spurs in the wcf. We all know how that one was going until kawhi went down.

Golden state is in real trouble. Kawhi and DnGreen have always given the warriors fits.

Its just depressing to know that they are spurs players helping another team win a title.

Oh well.

go spurs go
You mean coach Kerr getting outcoached by Nick Nurse? That's umpossible!

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Toronto is big time fucked if KD returns. Kawhi is still not healthy. I thought he was going to look better.

Dude that faggot isn't hurt and he wasn't hurt last year either

[testies]

Kawhi is actually being coached. Did you guys noticed he never asks for a pick n roll? Dumb Pop would only use him in this situation which is literally his worst offensive aspect. Im talking about OKC series mainly

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Kawhi is actually being coached. Did you guys noticed he never asks for a pick n roll? Dumb Pop would only use him in this situation which is literally his worst offensive aspect. Im talking about OKC series mainly

At some point the game passed Auerbach, Pjax, and Riley

pop needs to join them

[testies]

At some point the game passed Auerbach, Pjax, and Riley

pop needs to join them

I'm really rooting for him to lose with team USA, which would be a wake up call for us to take the car keys away from him

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

I'm really rooting for him to lose with team USA, which would be a wake up call for us to take the car keys away from him

Same here :lmao funny thing is we probably don't have to even hope for that

[apalisoc_9]

Funny.

In the 2020 lineup. USA best player would be Kawhi if Kawhi elects to play

:lol

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z68f9b8FFUk

[exstatic]

Dude that faggot isn't hurt and he wasn't hurt last year either

You'll have to be more specific, since both Load Management and KD are faggots.

[gambit1990]

1134461398807982086

[superbigtime]

Siakam > DePression

I agree.

[slick'81]

Reports are coming out kawhi will sign a two year deal to stay in tor

[Johojowhite]

Smart because then he’ll be eligible for the veterans exception from Toronto that will net him a 5 year 230 million dollar contract when he’s 29 years old.

[dbreiden83080]

KD still hasn't practiced tho so he may not return or could return injured. Plus Iguadala flared up his injury this game. So things are looking great overall for Toronto.

The atmosphere of that crowd was pretty incredible last night. They are so passionate about this team. So from that standpoint they deserve a championship. But obviously it’s hard for me to root for that considering who the best player is.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2sizevdKRg

[tholdren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2sizevdKRg

Sharpe sold his soul to be sas 2.0.... skip got plastic surgery. Still terrible entertainment

[John B]

1134461398807982086
New Balance of power? :lol:lol

[John B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2sizevdKRg
Actually Dubs double teaming allowed Kawhi to dish and got his teammates started. I hate this guy, but Kawhi is a true unselfish player (Spur-ques I suppose) continually attacking the paint, not to shoot but suck the defense to him to dish to an open player, even passing layup to get Siakam going. I’m rooting for Dubs to lose. Maybe Kawhi stays in Toronto, if he’s not coming back, better than going to LA.

[Uriel]

1134531624950030336

[r0drig0lac]

and it gets worse and worse...

[bic50]

spurs probably could've gotten siakam but didn't demand him... they probably just insisted on him but then didn't wanna include someone like forbes in the deal :lol
Just read that raptors refused to include siakim. Not sure how reliable the source is where I read that though

[bic50]

Dude that faggot isn't hurt and he wasn't hurt last year either
Doesn’t make sense

[Raptors]

Is Kawhi injury prone? This guy seems perpetually bothered every other game

[TheGoatishere]

Is Kawhi injury prone? This guy seems perpetually bothered every other game

Yup. Has had quad issues since college has never played 82 games before .

[BillMc]

Kawhi gives props to Tim, Tony and Manu

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/watch-kawhi-leonard-credits-duncan-ginobili-parker-for-his-development

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/michaelgrange/status/1134821912704638976

[Dejounte]

Kawhi gives props to Tim, Tony and Manu

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/watch-kawhi-leonard-credits-duncan-ginobili-parker-for-his-development

Thats surprising. So who does he really have beef with?

[weebo]

Kawhi gives props to Tim, Tony and Manu

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/watch-kawhi-leonard-credits-duncan-ginobili-parker-for-his-development

A very Spurs response by Kawhi to that question.

[Harry Callahan]

https://twitter.com/michaelgrange/status/1134821912704638976

Quite a tale the Raptors crafted here. Then uncle Dennis' crap is thrown in there as well.

And yet the condition has still not been disclosed. Sorry, not buying it. The mysterious condition is probably the one he will have the rest of his career - a chronic tendon condition/disease. Is it really an injury or a condition?

Just because someone says something does not make it true. They have had a long time to put together this narrative - the group, the Raptors. And yet, we and they still don't know if this guy can play a full season.

If the Raptors shell out $230MM, will they still stay away from back to backs next season? Will they shell out a loyalty contract for this season that could cripple them in the future regarding the cap? To them it might be worth it.

I would have respected KL more if he would have played out his contract this year in San Antonio and just left. Instead he (or his group) impugned the integrity of the entire Spurs organization who have demonstrated a very conservative program for its players for the last 25 years since Pop and RC came on board. Nephew and his group purposely destroyed his value on the trade market so any team he went to would not pay fair market value. This rotten situation just bugs the h*ll out of me. I wish the Spurs would have traded Nephew to Atlanta or Orlando last year, but they instead provided him a platform to "rest" and still have a chance to do what he should have done last year - play in the playoffs.

I wish the Spurs organization would counter the accusations being thrown at them the last year and a half by Uncle Dennis, Nephew, and his group but they generally don't really go public their stuff. I guess it is not worth it. The ownership would probably not have been comfortable shelling out over $200MM to a player who demonstrated lukewarm commitment to the team and the city.

The article does show how the Raptors players were kept in the dark all season long by the whims of Nephew and whether he plays or not.

[picnroll]

Has this run with Toronto been the most fun Leonard has had in his NBA career? “Obviously, it’s a lot more fun when you’re getting plays called for you and you’re able to live your childhood dream in being able to shoot the ball 20 times a game,” he said. “The offense is coming toward you, rather than just being out there doing one job. Because when you first come in as a rookie, unless you’re like a top-10 player, you’re really not going to touch the floor a whole lot, or get the offense run through you.” – via ESPN

Kawhi Leonard: “That kind of throws you off, or for me just like puts you in a box somewhat. You have to figure out a way to have fun. Like I said, being a child, I didn’t envision myself just being in a box in the NBA. But once that time comes, I feel like you’re just having more fun and you’re able to experience the game and grow as a player, making plays, seeing double-teams and finding other guys. It just gets more fun. You’re able to do a lot more.” – via ESPN
Kawhi Leonard, Toronto Raptors

[Harry Callahan]

Has this run with Toronto been the most fun Leonard has had in his NBA career? “Obviously, it’s a lot more fun when you’re getting plays called for you and you’re able to live your childhood dream in being able to shoot the ball 20 times a game,” he said. “The offense is coming toward you, rather than just being out there doing one job. Because when you first come in as a rookie, unless you’re like a top-10 player, you’re really not going to touch the floor a whole lot, or get the offense run through you.” – via ESPN

Kawhi Leonard: “That kind of throws you off, or for me just like puts you in a box somewhat. You have to figure out a way to have fun. Like I said, being a child, I didn’t envision myself just being in a box in the NBA. But once that time comes, I feel like you’re just having more fun and you’re able to experience the game and grow as a player, making plays, seeing double-teams and finding other guys. It just gets more fun. You’re able to do a lot more.” – via ESPN
Kawhi Leonard, Toronto Raptors

So Leonard says more in these two quotes than he did for an entire year last year. What a load of horsecrap. He put himself before his team last year and screwed them over. Just a dirtbag that can bounce and shoot a ball.

[picnroll]

Team ball wasn't working for nephew.

[CGD]

Some shots fired for sure.

2014 was nowhere near the player he is today...

[Harry Callahan]

I thought Kawhi was all about winning (he said so), but he then says has to be the one taking the 20 shots when he is out there so the game can be fun for him. Tim Duncan (a real Hall of Famer) would never make that kind of statement.

This guy had not talked for years, but now he has to. I thought Uncle Fester was a PR and Imaging guru. I guess not given what his prize pupil is saying.

So ESPN is now confirming the Spurs dianosis of the leg issue? Did I miss something?

[JuneJive]

Imagine if the beef was with Messina. Or Udoka.

[John B]

A very Spurs response by Kawhi to that question.
Agree. And tbh he plays a lot of Spurs-que with efficiency, team plays. I just feel bad he’s doing this with another team.

[RC_Drunkford]

Kawhi gives props to Tim, Tony and Manu

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/watch-kawhi-leonard-credits-duncan-ginobili-parker-for-his-development

B-b-but he hated Parker cause he said his injury was 100 times worse and he hated Manu too cause Manu plays through injuries

[picnroll]

B-b-but he hated Parker cause he said his injury was 100 times worse and he hated Manu too cause Manu plays through injuries

Thanks for clarifying that Kwitter after letting the press throw Parker under the bus for a couple of years.

[RC_Drunkford]

Thanks for clarifying that Kwitter after letting the press throw Parker under the bus for a couple of years.

It was always bullshit taken out of context by ESPN to make the Spurs look bad

[picnroll]

It was always bullshit taken out of context by ESPN to make the Spurs look bad

... and nephew never stepped in to clarify that it was bullshit about one of the guys fundamental in his development. What a high character guy.

[JeffDuncan]

Doc Rivers has been fined for tampering because of his praise for Kawhi on ESPN last Tuesday.

Link:

https://nypost.com/2019/06/01/kawhi-leonard-reacts-to-doc-rivers-tampering-fine/

[JeffDuncan]

... and nephew never stepped in to clarify that it was bullshit about one of the guys fundamental in his development. What a high character guy.

Oh, get serious. Leonard was never Parker's babysitter. If Parker screws up talking to the media, it's all on him, and he can take his lumps. That's especially when he tried to play "Dr. Parker" with his "injury diagnosis" and praise himself for his recovery. Parker's main problem was that he came across as an egotistical jerk.

[picnroll]

While timvp has intimated that he has inside knowledge of what happened in the nephew saga which he can’t reveal since it would result in his losing his relationships it would be nice if he could just say true or false or partially true when these stories come out based on what his sources have told him.

[picnroll]

Oh, get serious. Leonard was never Parker's babysitter. If Parker screws up talking to the media, it's all on him, and he can take his lumps. That's especially when he tried to play "Dr. Parker" with his "injury diagnosis" and praise himself for his recovery. Parker's main problem was that he came across as an egotistical jerk.

Nephew playing like Jordan reincarnated against GS. Goes out with a sprained ankle and Spurs make no effort to get him back in the rest of the series. He goes to China, won’t communicate with the Spurs, comes back a cripple with a thigh injury and sits out until his shoe deal promotion comes up. Give me a fucking break.

[MoSpur02]

Not sure if posted yet.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26872673/for-kawhi-extra-fun-getting-shots-playoffs

He gave props to Tim, Tony, & Manu, but in the article above it seems like he’s throwing shade at how he was coached in San Antonio.

[JeffDuncan]

Nephew playing like Jordan reincarnated against GS. Goes out with a sprained ankle and Spurs make no effort to get him back in the rest of the series. He goes to China, won’t communicate with the Spurs, comes back a cripple with a thigh injury and sits out until his shoe deal promotion comes up. Give me a fucking break.

Changing the subject. Give me a fucking break.

[RC_Drunkford]

Obviously, it’s a lot more fun when you’re getting plays called for you and you’re able to live your childhood dream in being able to shoot the ball 20 times a game,

Where are all the Aldridge haters complaining about "my touches"? Kawhi just did the same thing and seems pissed that he didn't get to shoot the ball 20 times per game when he couldn't shoot and the Big 3 were still around

[slick'81]

Where are all the Aldridge haters complaining about "my touches"? Kawhi just did the same thing and seems pissed that he didn't get to shoot the ball 20 times per game when he couldn't shoot and the Big 3 were still around


Kawhi is free from pops tyranny

[BlackAndWhite]

He did get touches but was severely outplayed by Matt Barnes and was shutdown by Andre Roberson the next year

[Dancelot]

So which is it kawhi? Last week your uncle said the spurs didn’t believe you were actually injured and that’s why you wanted out. Now, you were unhappy with the system and this “box” you were put in. In the words of duncan2k5, “ you’re moving goal posts.”

[spursparker9]

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-raptors-complained-league-multiple-185918475.html

Report: Raptors complained to league multiple times about Clippers tampering with Kawhi Leonard

[TMTTRIO]

https://youtu.be/FR8DPgciE-0

[picnroll]

Changing the subject. Give me a fucking break.

And you want to isolate and cherry picks events to distort the issue like there’s no continumn.
1. Mysteriously Kwitter comes back from China unable to do shit because of a leg injury.
2. He’s provided no communication to the Sours.
3. Returns to SA and is inactive for the first 27 games from Oct 18 to Dec 9.
4 Begins game one on one or two game off play initially 20 minutes or less works his way up to 28-31 minutes, only once two games consectutive. Never a back to back.
5. Shuts it down completely Jan 15, disappears to NY never to return except for the team picture (a real collectors item) although several times saying he’s nearly ready, jerking the Spurs and his teammates chains.
6. Meanwhile Spurs are battling their asses off trying to make the playoffs

Look at the Spur’s load management up until Kwitter disappeared to NY. Torontos getting all this praise for incredible load management. Kwitter had other issues and agenda, wanted to go home and be a big star and the MAN so he could have fun.
So yeah Parker’s injury was worse. Yeah his teammates were undoubtedly majorly pissed at him, battling their asses off to get the playoffs while Kwitter’s group was throwing shade on the Spurs because he was an unprofessional. So Parker said he was more injured. Big fucking deal. The truth gave the group a BS line to hide behind. I’m willing to bet the big 3 really think Kwitter is a complete asshole.

It isn't story after story in isolation, it’s on big pathetic saga orchestrated by uncle and nephew. So do give me a fucking break.

[Genovaswitness]

who else is getting the kawhi shoes when they drop this fall?

[picnroll]

Bruce preaching the truth. Nice to finally see a Spur standing up for the organization. Doubt that interview will get much play on ESPN.

[Fusternino]

Honestly over the years (if the real situation wasn't just 2017-2018) I do remember Duncan saying things like "to be honest, I don't really know what Kawhi is like, we don't really talk about anything non-basketball."

[ZeusWillJudge]

I haven't said "Fuck Kawhi" here in several days. Fuck Kawhi.




who else is getting the kawhi shoes when they drop this fall?

Your avatar is STILL a picture of Drake taking it up the ass? I pointed it out, because I thought you didn't understand. I guess you just like it.

[apalisoc_9]

I wonder how mad spursfans would be if Spurs retire kawhi jersey?

[picnroll]

I wonder how mad spursfans would be if Spurs retire kawhi jersey?

I wonder if anybody would come, including Kwhitter.

[picnroll]

Gotta laugh with Kwhitter limping and Nurse saying his legs not a problem. Irony is Pop would probably shut him down even in the finals.

[JeffDuncan]

...

Changing the subject again, and spewing a bunch of nitwit nonsense doing it. Give me a fucking brake. Leonard was never Parker's babysitter.

[coachmac87]

https://youtu.be/FR8DPgciE-0

Like I’m still waiting on what the “real injury” was.

Or has it been officially diagnosed? Or is he still hurt and they don’t know exactly what it is??

Seriously...what the fuck was this injury that ended the relationship?

[JeffDuncan]

Like I’m still waiting on what the “real injury” was.

Or has it been officially diagnosed? Or is he still hurt and they don’t know exactly what it is??

Seriously...what the fuck was this injury that ended the relationship?

The Spurs original statement on September 30, 2017 said,
-----
"Kawhi Leonard continues a rehabilitation program for right quadriceps tendinopathy. He is expected to miss the 2017 preseason. A timeline for his return to the court will be determined at a later date."
^^^^^

The last game he played for the Spurs was on Jan 13, 2018 against the Nuggets. For the Hawks game on the 15th he was on the injury report as,
-----
"right quadriceps injury / rest (DTD)"
^^^^^

That Day-To-Day turned into a lot of days, because, as we now know, he was gone.

But not forgotten.

[FkLA]

What about Tim Duncan you POS? Arguably the best player on the team that got you your only ring.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHd0rx2KMn8

[JeffDuncan]

"Tendinopathy" is not a specific diagnosis. It only means, "there is something wrong with the tendon."

It's a blanket term for a wide range of possibilities, in other words.

[weebo]

What about Tim Duncan you POS? Arguably the best player on the team that got you your only ring.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHd0rx2KMn8

He credited Tim, Tony and Manu...KL just wanted out ASAP. He or someone got into his head that he was bigger than the team...and being with the Spurs and under Pop that wasn't happening...Spurs are team oriented and KL wants to be Kobe, Jordan, KD...basically do what he wants on the court without regard to a team play...etc...so he played the injury card to force his way out of SA...for all the bullshit that he's quiet/ introvert he's also quite a diva.

[slick'81]

Game 2 of the nba finals tonight

[daslicer]

He credited Tim, Tony and Manu...KL just wanted out ASAP. He or someone got into his head that he was bigger than the team...and being with the Spurs and under Pop that wasn't happening...Spurs are team oriented and KL wants to be Kobe, Jordan, KD...basically do what he wants on the court without regard to a team play...etc...so he played the injury card to force his way out of SA...for all the bullshit that he's quiet/ introvert he's also quite a diva.

Michael C Wright said last year that the Spurs have had problems with his uncle for years. Dennis for years was baiting the Spurs to react to him in a negative way and I think the Spurs just snapped last year. Timvp said in one of his recent posts the situation with the Spurs and #2 were years in the making. What I do believe is that the Spurs got fed up with his uncle antics and last year was the final straw. I'm not even going to say overreact because there is only so much you can take when you are dealing with an overbearing tyrant like Dennis. #2 took the Spurs disrespecting his Uncle as disrespect towards him hence where all of his animosity comes from.

I know some people will say this is the normal NBA but it really isn't. It's not normal for a front office having to bow down to some family member. It's really abnormal how the Raptors have to kiss Uncle Dennis' ass 24/7. I'm not angry at PATFO for dissolving their relationship the way they did because I don't think it was fixable. I have to also be honest with myself and ask myself how would I have handle dealing with Uncle Dennis. In my own life I can't tolerate toxic like behavior so I would have also kicked him to the curb. PATFO screwed up by not trading him to the Celtics for Tatum/Brown when they were offering those 2. Their biggest mistake was actually them thinking this was fixable instead of trying to trade him early last year before the all-star break. They would have gotten some great offers.

[FkLA]

BOS never offered either Tatum or Brown much less both. :lol

[daslicer]

BOS never offered either Tatum or Brown much less both. :lol

They did according to several posters on here ala MoSpur but this was before the all-star break last year. Obviously last summer they didn't.

[coachmac87]

The Spurs original statement on September 30, 2017 said,
-----
"Kawhi Leonard continues a rehabilitation program for right quadriceps tendinopathy. He is expected to miss the 2017 preseason. A timeline for his return to the court will be determined at a later date."
^^^^^

The last game he played for the Spurs was on Jan 13, 2018 against the Nuggets. For the Hawks game on the 15th he was on the injury report as,
-----
"right quadriceps injury / rest (DTD)"
^^^^^

That Day-To-Day turned into a lot of days, because, as we now know, he was gone.

But not forgotten.

Understood. But that’s what the Spurs claimed. What did Kawhi camp claim? They claimed misdiagnosis...so what was their injury?? And could it legitimately have a player miss 73 games??

[Harry Callahan]

Understood. But that’s what the Spurs claimed. What did Kawhi camp claim? They claimed misdiagnosis...so what was their injury?? And could it legitimately have a player miss 73 games??

Neither the Raptors nor the group will actually say what the injury is. I think the NFL does not allow this hiding of injuries in order to be more transparent to the wagering crowd. The NBA does not have the same policy.

The only person talking for the group is Uncle Dennis, and that b*stard is evil. The Raptors are under orders by the "Group" overlords to say nothing and let things play out.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Like I’m still waiting on what the “real injury” was.

Or has it been officially diagnosed? Or is he still hurt and they don’t know exactly what it is??

Seriously...what the fuck was this injury that ended the relationship?

I'm not so sure it was an "injury" that ended the relationship. The end of this relationship is like a marriage where suddenly the wife wants out. There seemingly weren't any substantial problems and the husband getting dumped is caught off guard, shocked and perplexed. A lot of small things built up in the marriage that lead the wife to end it. Similarly with the Spurs, making Kawhi wait a year for that first max contract, seeing how other teams treated their superstars at the ASG, and expecting Kawhi to be happy with the Gasol and Mills signings collectively built up in Kawhi's mind. Just as a young wife who marries an older, successful Type A overbearing man and tires of him, perhaps Kawhi tired of Pop's old school ways.
Then mix in the outside advice of the confused wife's best friend, who tells her you deserve better, you deserve to be happy, divorce that man. Enter Uncle Dennis, the wife's best friend, telling Kawhi he'll be far more successful and happy if he divorces the Spurs. In the separation phase, the wife gets confused and hears all kinds of advice. Emotions run high and perception is reality causing the wife to blow out of proportions the issues she had with the husband. And fanning the flames is that flirting handsome hunk (LAL) she has always been interested in. Eventually emotions run high and the wife finally tells the husband its over. At the end the wife does some sleazy shit like run up some credit cards up or bad mouth the husband. The wife moves on experiencing happines and success, while the husband is left hurt, depressed and contemplating the what ifs.

[slick'81]

I'm not so sure it was an "injury" that ended the relationship. The end of this relationship is like a marriage where suddenly the wife wants out. There seemingly weren't any substantial problems and the husband getting dumped is caught off guard, shocked and perplexed. A lot of small things built up in the marriage that lead the wife to end it. Similarly with the Spurs, making Kawhi wait a year for that first max contract, seeing how other teams treated their superstars at the ASG, and expecting Kawhi to be happy with the Gasol and Mills signings collectively built up in Kawhi's mind. Just as a young wife who marries an older, successful Type A overbearing man and tires of him, perhaps Kawhi tired of Pop's old school ways.
Then mix in the outside advice of the confused wife's best friend, who tells her you deserve better, you deserve to be happy, divorce that man. Enter Uncle Dennis, the wife's best friend, telling Kawhi he'll be far more successful and happy if he divorces the Spurs. In the separation phase, the wife gets confused and hears all kinds of advice. Emotions run high and perception is reality causing the wife to blow out of proportions the issues she had with the husband. And fanning the flames is that flirting handsome hunk (LAL) she has always been interested in. Eventually emotions run high and the wife finally tells the husband its over. At the end the wife does some sleazy shit like run up some credit cards up or bad mouth the husband. The wife moves on experiencing happines and success, while the husband is left hurt, depressed and contemplating the what ifs.


Tldr but looks depressing

[ZeusWillJudge]

What about Tim Duncan you POS? Arguably the best player on the team that got you your only ring.



Yep. And one of the people he draws from is Shaq? Shaq? WTF does he possibly draw from Shaq, except the desire to get paid for commercials?

[weebo]

Michael C Wright said last year that the Spurs have had problems with his uncle for years. Dennis for years was baiting the Spurs to react to him in a negative way and I think the Spurs just snapped last year. Timvp said in one of his recent posts the situation with the Spurs and #2 were years in the making. What I do believe is that the Spurs got fed up with his uncle antics and last year was the final straw. I'm not even going to say overreact because there is only so much you can take when you are dealing with an overbearing tyrant like Dennis. #2 took the Spurs disrespecting his Uncle as disrespect towards him hence where all of his animosity comes from.

I know some people will say this is the normal NBA but it really isn't. It's not normal for a front office having to bow down to some family member. It's really abnormal how the Raptors have to kiss Uncle Dennis' ass 24/7. I'm not angry at PATFO for dissolving their relationship the way they did because I don't think it was fixable. I have to also be honest with myself and ask myself how would I have handle dealing with Uncle Dennis. In my own life I can't tolerate toxic like behavior so I would have also kicked him to the curb. PATFO screwed up by not trading him to the Celtics for Tatum/Brown when they were offering those 2. Their biggest mistake was actually them thinking this was fixable instead of trying to trade him early last year before the all-star break. They would have gotten some great offers.

KL was recently quoted as saying something along the lines that during his time in SA he felt "boxed in" which leads me to think he wasn't happy with the Spurs' team first style of play..he's more kobe than TD...it doesn't help he has someone like Dennis chirping in his ear...it also didn't help that LMA was unhappy and wanted out and once Pop came out saying they would tweak things here and there to get LMA more shots...well I think that did it for KL...as timvp stated...this was years in the making...the blame goes both ways...its never only one side that carries the blame...I don't know how much Pop involved/consulted with KL regarding the team like he would with Tim/Manu/Tony...if he didn't then that's where he really messed up...otoh KL messed up by not speaking up and letting his group do the talking...the Spurs never wanted to lose KL and hindsight is 20/20...they never intended to trade him...the plan was always to reconcile and make him front and center of the team...by that point however it was already to late...they had to trade him and they got what they could

[RC_Drunkford]

KL was recently quoted as saying something along the lines that during his time in SA he felt "boxed in" which leads me to think he wasn't happy with the Spurs' team first style of play..he's more kobe than TD...it doesn't help he has someone like Dennis chirping in his ear...it also didn't help that LMA was unhappy and wanted out and once Pop came out saying they would tweak things here and there to get LMA more shots...well I think that did it for KL...as timvp stated...this was years in the making...the blame goes both ways...its never only one side that carries the blame...I don't know how much Pop involved/consulted with KL regarding the team like he would with Tim/Manu/Tony...if he didn't then that's where he really messed up...otoh KL messed up by not speaking up and letting his group do the talking...the Spurs never wanted to lose KL and hindsight is 20/20...they never intended to trade him...the plan was always to reconcile and make him front and center of the team...by that point however it was already to late...they had to trade him and they got what they could

At the 2017 trade deadline they asked Kawhi if he thinks they should make any changes and he said he liked the team and they shouldn't change anything. That team went to the WCF and Zaza happened. Not sure who reported that, but I saw it on hoopshype back then. So they definitley asked him about the roster

[JeffDuncan]

Understood. But that’s what the Spurs claimed. What did Kawhi camp claim? They claimed misdiagnosis...so what was their injury?? And could it legitimately have a player miss 73 games??

I don't have anything at hand, but from what I recall reading, the NY docs apparently took a somewhat different view. They seemed to take it that Kawhi's condition was more muscle-oriented.

The tendon and attached muscle are both affected. They're joined together. Damage the tendon and some effect will be seen in the muscle. And vice versa. So, which is primary?

The San Antonio doctors took it that the tendon was primary, with effect on the muscle secondary. We know that from the report of tendinopathy = "something wrong with the tendon."

Buy the NY docs apparently took it the other way. Which would be "myopathy," I suppose. Meaning, " something is wrong with the muscle."

So apparently there is a kind of different diagnosis, in a way.

Either condition, depending on what it specifically is, could lead to long term treatment and limitation of activity, and pain. The Spurs docs could be right, and it could lead to what we're seeing. Or the NY docs could be right, and, same thing.

Is the glass half empty, or half full? The chicken, or the egg. It's how you look at it.

So, who's right, and what is it really? Nobody the fuck knows. Unless there has been a much more specific diagnosis, a "real" diagnosis, which has not been released. From the vague stuff that's been floated in public you can't tell.

Those who have taken a personal dislike to Kawhi might find consolation in one thing. It is probably true that he frequently experiences pain.

[TD 21]

What about Tim Duncan you POS? Arguably the best player on the team that got you your only ring.

Not stereotypical enough.

Tribalism is the most underrated part of this story. It's played a major role, both from scumbag/sleazebag uncle's perspective and the black media's perspective.

Some of us were talking about this a few years ago, how they had to start creating a more cliché NBA environment, more so in an attempt to appeal to external superstars and stars. Turns out, they needed to be worried about their own back yard.

Instead, they buried their head in the sand, continued to drink their "culture" and "system" post '14 Kool-Aid and are now the laughing stock of the league.

[MoSpur02]

I honestly think he's hurt. He's favoring that leg when he runs seems like.

[DPG21920]

I honestly think he's hurt. He's favoring that leg when he runs seems like.

I think that was always the case. SA when Kawhi was cleared never claimed he was not injured. Its a pain tolerance thing and you can see the injury is real (whether this one is related or not). But you can also see he can still play at an insanely high level with the injury.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Yep. And one of the people he draws from is Shaq? Shaq? WTF does he possibly draw from Shaq, except the desire to get paid for commercials?

Kawhi has learned the tricks of public relations this past year to fix his image.

By naming those people they will continue to talk great of him in the media. Everything is very calculated just like him being fake hurt right now.

We all know damn well Shaq didn't inspire shit in regards to Kawhi :lmao

[MoffettBuffet]

Instead, they buried their head in the sand, continued to drink their "culture" and "system" post '14 Kool-Aid and are now the laughing stock of the league.

The Spurs did exactly what the Red Wings did - they held onto too long to past glories, the game passed them by, and they don't have the star studded rosters they took for granted. It's pretty interesting how, if you compare both organizations, their stories are pretty much the exact same (Duncan/Yzerman, playoff streak, most respected organization, controversy in the fandom over Parker/Fedorov, etc), but then they diverge when the Red Wings shook up their front office, while the Spurs would rather sit back and hold onto Fagasol and Porky. No wonder Kawhi left - he probably knew this team was going nowhere and said fuck it.

[gilmor2002]

Warriors going to take 1 at Toronto..

[DPG21920]

Warriors going to take 1 at Toronto..

If they lost Klay and Looney, it’s still a big blow to them.

[Gibbz]

Harden-level FT hunting and phantom calls.

[ace3g]

2 pt game

[ace3g]

Big 3 from Iggy