***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[John B]

I love Manu but this doesn’t help Spurs cause, and right now is to resign Kawhi.

[cd98]

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I guess your take on this depends on how petty you think Kawhi is. Or maybe someone told him its Kawhi or Manu and this was Manu's response (though I don't think Manu is that petty).

[itzsoweezee]

Oh no. Not sure if that's good for Manu not to mention Kawhi.

He names 5 MVPs. There is no controversy here by leaving out Kawhi, a non-mvp.

[Spurs da champs]

He names 5 MVPs. There is no controversy here by leaving out Kawhi, a non-mvp.

Agreed, Kawhi has really only had 2 years as the guy as well.

[Spurs da champs]

Notice too that Manu didn't mention AD who is obviously better then Harden & Westbrook.

[DPG21920]

People ripping TP will probably take issue with Manu, no? TP got ripped for being asked a question and Manu unsolicited tweets this out?

[BSfromTX]

What does he mean by contemporary?

[AaronY]

what's pretty remarkable is how easily you buy into complete bullshit that could EASILY be checked


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/05/07/four-women-accuse-new-york-attorney-general-eric-schneiderman-of-physical-abuse/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9c43d3009bbc


https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/07/politics/eric-schneiderman-violence-allegations/index.html


https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/harvey-weinstein-scandal/n-y-attorney-general-schneiderman-accused-violence-toward-women-n872181


http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-pol-eric-schneiderman-20180507-story.html


https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2018/05/07/new-york-attorney-general-schneiderman-resigns-in-wake-of-bombshell-report-403563


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/07/nyregion/new-york-attorney-general-eric-schneiderman-abuse.html
ducks getting jizzed on per/par

[ducks]

Oh no. Not sure if that's good for Manu not to mention Kawhi.

could be that actually played in postseason

[Spur|n|Austin]

What does he mean by contemporary?

Current. Check out dictionary.com

[spurraider21]

contemporaneous

[ducks]

I love Manu but this doesn’t help Spurs cause, and right now is to resign Kawhi.

he is not a fa
spurs want to extend him but he does not have to
ofcourse if he does not extend people will see if he truly Is healthy before the offer

[ducks]

Current. Check out dictionary.com
in your own words describe it

[BSfromTX]

Current. Check out dictionary.com

Thank you, but I wondered if he meant style of play. Kawhi has a more traditional game

[ElNono]

People ripping TP will probably take issue with Manu, no? TP got ripped for being asked a question and Manu unsolicited tweets this out?

TP is a role player and Manu is a legend, there's obviously a huge difference there...

[ElNono]

Harden and Westbrook have been doing it longer than AD, tbh... AD looks like he's going to be great, as projected, but until this season, he was missing the playoffs left and right despite the gaudy numbers, tbh...

The Kawhi omission is not surprising either... Kawhi had what? 2 seasons as the man? At 26 he's probably just entering his prime...

[Spur|n|Austin]

in your own words describe it

Current, present, this very instant.

In a sentence - Has the NBA ever had 5 contemporary players in their prime as dominant as Durant, Curry, Harden, LeBron and Westbrook?

[MultiTroll]

Current, present, this very instant.

In a sentence - Has the NBA ever had 5 contemporary players in their prime as dominant as Durant, Curry, Harden, LeBron and Westbrook?
pssssh
1983 All Star game for merely one year.
Dr. J
Bird
Mo Malone
Bob Parish
Isiah Thomas

Kream
Magic
David Thompson
George Gervin

[ceds]

could be that actually played in postseason


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8

[ducks]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8

More then undocumented people living in USA
More then undocumented young people your taxes are paying to teach them
English

[ceds]

More then undocumented people living in USA
More then undocumented young people your taxes are paying to teach them
English

How many times did you use the spell checker to put out that retarded post?

[Leetonidas]

More then undocumented people living in USA
More then undocumented young people your taxes are paying to teach them
English

Id rather pay that than pay for old retards like you to subsist on Medicare tbh

[Ice009]

So when are we likely to find out on whether or not the Spurs are offering Kawhi the Supermax?

[bklynspursfan]

So when are we likely to find out on whether or not the Spurs are offering Kawhi the Supermax?

I believe he's eligible to receive it on July 1st. Unless something leaks before that, we probably have at least another month of waiting.

[DPG21920]

I would think we hear more leading up to the draft. If things aren’t clear going into the draft a trade could happen then.

[rjv]

How many times did you use the spell checker to put out that retarded post?

Apparently, no one paid taxes so that ducks could learn English.

[Seventyniner]

TP is a role player and Manu is a legend, there's obviously a huge difference there...

The sad part is that I think you didn't use blue font cause you actually believe this.

[ElNono]

The sad part is that I think you didn't use blue font cause you actually believe this.

what's sad about that, tbh?

[tholdren]

Current, present, this very instant.

In a sentence - Has the NBA ever had 5 contemporary players in their prime as dominant as Durant, Curry, Harden, LeBron and Westbrook?

Only shitheads say this to mask the current fail that is nba talent. Youve got one player on that list with an all around game and be has a terrible bbiq. None of the other generational stars had to come out and say how smart they are about the game. This is coming from the same loser who quit on his team, all have but 2 listed, and only 1 of those players wants to beat the best to be the best.

[tholdren]

pssssh
1983 All Star game for merely one year.
Dr. J
Bird
Mo Malone
Bob Parish
Isiah Thomas

Kream
Magic
David Thompson
George Gervin

2004ish
Tim shaq kobe garnet nash...
All better than now

[dabom]

Why do people keep replying to tholdren? :lol

Stop. Already. :lol

[diego]

"quote of somebody wondering if lebron curry harden westbrook durant were the best top 5 ever"

seriously? Wasnt that long ago shaq, drob, hakeem, barkley, jordan, pippen, malone, stockton, gary payton, reggie miller were all playing. I think all of those guys would be even better nowadays. Stockton would make westbrook cry. Shaq, hakeem and drob would eat durant alive. Only Lebron and Curry, if he stays healthy will be in that class. Harden is very skilled and westbrook very athletic but mentally havent proven themselves to be much of anything, durant is a sliver above them only because he is above average at both and got himself a free finals mvp award. Westbrook and harden dont even have heroic playoff losses to point to, only meltdowns.

[diego]

sorry quoted the wrong post

[Ice009]

Only shitheads say this to mask the current fail that is nba talent. Youve got one player on that list with an all around game and be has a terrible bbiq. None of the other generational stars had to come out and say how smart they are about the game. This is coming from the same loser who quit on his team, all have but 2 listed, and only 1 of those players wants to beat the best to be the best.

Which of those two players haven't quit on their team? Curry and? Westbrook?

[tholdren]

Which of those two players haven't quit on their team? Curry and? Westbrook?

Yes. And only westbrook wants to beat the best as the #1. The others just want to be on a stacked team and dance around

[Crazymaddopeyo]

You should definitely be a Rockets fan then and give up on the Spurs. Clutch fans wants to hear from you.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVYaQWKKMq8

[AaronY]

More then undocumented people living in USA
More then undocumented young people your taxes are paying to teach them
English
its than.

then is for time. than is when you are comparing something

[JPB]

Damn, that Ducks psycho is still around after all these years spreading his frustrated hate all over BB forums... Wow, real freak.

This weirdo always made me thought about a mix of Bob DeNiro in Taxi Driver and those guys in Mississippi Burning.

[ace3g]

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[ace3g]

Kawhi's friend now on his way to the Raptors

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1031691234245525506

[Down Under]

Kawhi's friend now on his way to the Raptors

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1031691234245525506
Lakers :lol

[vander]

Kawhi's friend now on his way to the Raptors

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1031691234245525506

so basically his job is to be Kawhi's friend?

[StinkyWeezleteats]

Kawhi's friend now on his way to the Raptors

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1031691234245525506

lol having to pay someone to be your friend

[RD2191]

so basically his job is to be Kawhi's friend?

:rollin

[Genovaswitness]

Kawhi's friend now on his way to the Raptors

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1031691234245525506

fuck them all

[Spur|n|Austin]

so basically his job is to be Kawhi's friend?

:lol pathetic

[PublicOption]

Kahwi was a fake from the start can't wait for the spurs to play Toronto and watch Pop undress his ass.

[phxspurfan]

Spurs should hire Zaza to be Kawhi's personal defender

[Stabula]

lol having to pay someone to be your friend

I approve of your name.:bike:

[spursparker9]

so basically his job is to be Kawhi's friend?

To Raptor's def, Spurs already done that previously

[StinkyWeezleteats]

I approve of your name.:bike:

Well I approve of your approval :bobo

[YGWHI]

...can't wait for the spurs to play Toronto and watch Pop undress his ass.
A bit expensive or nah?


Leonard, once a beloved player for the Spurs, now sits as the enemy and will be labeled just that in his return on Thursday, Jan. 3, on national television. With that, though, comes a significant payday for the AT&T Center and second-market ticket sellers.
According to Ticketmaster (https://www1.ticketmaster.com/san-antonio-spurs-vs-toronto-raptors-san-antonio-texas-01-03-2019/event/3A00550680E521FA?artistid=806012&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=7&landing=c&tm_link=artist_msg-0_3A00550680E521FA), tickets for this game top out at $2,250, with the lowest price at $69 for seats at the top of the venue. Almost anywhere else will see consumers pay triple digits, even in the upper level, to see Leonard return in a Raptors uniform

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robwolkenbrod/2018/08/20/kawhi-leonards-first-game-against-spurs-bound-to-be-expensive/#22e9ca75706d

[SuperCam]

A bit expensive or nah?

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/robwolkenbrod/2018/08/20/kawhi-leonards-first-game-against-spurs-bound-to-be-expensive/#22e9ca75706d


probably a bunch of los culowipers coming back to cheer on kiwi just like they did for kobe's last game :bang

[DPG21920]

I will buy floor seats to boo him the entire game if he’s actually playing.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzP-xEqp9w

Cris with his sources on Traitor again

[Ice009]

I thought he was going to stay with the Spurs. I thought someone mentioned the Spurs actually like the job he was doing, not just being there because he was as Kawhi's friend, but actually doing a good job.

[BackHome]

Well if my friend was a millionaire and he asked me to join him on another team like who would said NO?

[vander]

To Raptor's def, Spurs already done that previously

yep, Spurs pioneered it, Toronto just copying.

Spurs did so many things for that guy:
developed him slowly, never asking too much
restricted his minutes to avoid injury
gave him a championship even after he let one slip
hired his best friend
didn't require him to talk

the situation that Kawhi walked into after being drafted: was there ever a better one for any player in the history of the NBA?

[sasaint]

I thought he was going to stay with the Spurs. I thought someone mentioned the Spurs actually like the job he was doing, not just being there because he was as Kawhi's friend, but actually doing a good job.

I remember reading the same thing. But what else would you expect the Spurs to say under the circumstances? The aspect of this whole Kawhisis that is still not generating much of a story, but to me is particularly interesting, is the extent to which the Spurs coddled Kawhi and masked his "issues" from the general public, and the extent to which the local SA media colluded with the team to keep his issues under wraps - for his entire tenure with the team.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1032044099929440256

[daslicer]

I remember reading the same thing. But what else would you expect the Spurs to say under the circumstances? The aspect of this whole Kawhisis that is still not generating much of a story, but to me is particularly interesting, is the extent to which the Spurs coddled Kawhi and masked his "issues" from the general public, and the extent to which the local SA media colluded with the team to keep his issues under wraps - for his entire tenure with the team.

Agreed it will be interesting to find out years from now how much shit the Spurs kept behind close doors when it came do dealing with Kawhi and his entourage during his whole entire tenure in SA.

[Captain Marvel]

LOL how did the Spurs lose Kawhi?

[J_Paco]

LOL how did the Spurs lose Kawhi?

He didn't "trust" the training/medical staff anymore, had an undisclosed issue with an individual in the front - office, didn't like the front - office decisions Pop/RC made (not retaining "his boys") and wanted to be "back home in LA," etc, etc......

Anything else??????

[Fireball]

Kawhi's hands are ridicolous ...

[J_Paco]

Kawhi's hands are ridicolous ...

Yeah, dude has oven mitts for hands. LOL

I wish things hadn't ended on a sour note, but I just can't see myself rooting for him (even if I don't truly "hate" him like Rodman) any more....

[Fireball]

Yeah, dude has oven mitts for hands. LOL

I wish things hadn't ended on a sour note, but I just can't see myself rooting for him (even if I don't truly "hate" him like Rodman) any more....

me too ... I still have to burn his jersey

[manufan10]

Check out how much of a hypocrite Cris Carter is when talking about the eerily similar Le'veon Bell situation... it's like he forgot about the whole Kawhi saga:

https://youtu.be/u7flG683Jig?t=2m42s

[Othyus Lalanne]

yep, Spurs pioneered it, Toronto just copying.

Spurs did so many things for that guy:
developed him slowly, never asking too much
restricted his minutes to avoid injury
gave him a championship even after he let one slip
hired his best friend
didn't require him to talk

Why would you require him to talk. Just tell the media to fuck themselves and dare them do anything about it. Healthy he is consensus top 5 player. What do people barely rich enough to live in NY and LA can do about it?

[SAGirl]

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All this coincides with rumors the Lakers prefer to go after Klay Thomson next summer. Should still be an interesting development.

[TimmyBuckets]

Who gaf about this faggot?

[exstatic]

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All this coincides with rumors the Lakers prefer to go after Klay Thomson next summer. Should still be an interesting development.

Wasn't his family building a house for his mom in SA last year? The whole "bought house" thing means nothing.

[SAGirl]

Wasn't his family building a house for his mom in SA last year? The whole "bought house" thing means nothing.
Thought it doesn't mean much myself either. could be an investment property in this case... just posting the updates I found.

Quite coincidentally, the Lakers are rumored to go after Klay now.

[LCM]

Like the Suttons couldn't flip a property in Toronto. It's funny how people pin hopes on what these guys buy. :violin

[manufan10]

Wasn't his family building a house for his mom in SA last year? The whole "bought house" thing means nothing.

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[spurs10]

Hope those Canadians don't bet their houses on Kawhi staying. Then again if he stays, he only loses $40 million instead of the $80 million if he bolts. He has been listening to the wrong people and I'd be surprised if the future goes smoothly for him. If his quad kept him out for a year without surgery, either he has a chronic injury or he's a cheat.

[TDMVPDPOY]

or was he on peptides, took the year off from getting tested? do nba do drug testing for roids?

[cool cat]

or was he on peptides, took the year off from getting tested? do nba do drug testing for roids?

Yes but not sure if they are good at it. After that one year Lebron went to Miami while he was “hurt” for like three weeks then came back juiced to the gills, I have my suspicions.

[spurs10]

or was he on peptides, took the year off from getting tested? do nba do drug testing for roids? Yep that sounds about right for him.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

or was he on peptides, took the year off from getting tested? do nba do drug testing for roids? I've never heard of anyone in the NBA testing positive for roids or any other PEDs although I know there is a no way in hell that nobody in the NBA has never used roids or any other PEDs.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I've never heard of anyone in the NBA testing positive for roids or any other PEDs although I know there is a no way in hell that nobody in the NBA has never used roids or any other PEDs.

seems like the league only has a policy for testing recreational drugs

but not for roids? explains why they try to avoid international tournaments that do testing

[Kori Ellis]

I've never heard of anyone in the NBA testing positive for roids or any other PEDs although I know there is a no way in hell that nobody in the NBA has never used roids or any other PEDs.

That's because veteran players are given a heads-up on when they are going to be drug tested. The only players that are ever really surprised by testing are rookies or players that are in the drug program (for testing positive previously).

[Harry Callahan]

Kawhit will "feel good" until a 6'10" guy sets that screen with his knees just a bit out so the Nephew's quad takes a knee. Leonard will probably never fight through screens as hard anymore since he decided he is above a team and organization, but if he does it'll be off to "injury management".

BTW, Uncle Fester and the Nephew will coach the Toronto Raptors in the 2018-2019 season - not what's his name (Handy?). Leonard was probably 100% healthy since February 2018 - the new coach confirms that IMHO.

[Ice009]

That's because veteran players are given a heads-up on when they are going to be drug tested. The only players that are ever really surprised by testing are rookies or players that are in the drug program (for testing positive previously).

Thanks for the info. That is crazy. I guess the NBA doesn't care if their players use PEDs?

Also, why was Kawhi randomly tested after that regular season game against the Rockets? That sort of came out of nowhere after he had a monster performance that night.

[gospursgojas]

Sister still at it- but this time admits he quit.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/kawhi-leonards-sister-hints-at-spurs-parker-as-reasons-why-he-was-traded


He quit or had no choice due to what was going on behind closed doors tht the SPURS IS not acknowledging

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

In 10 years or so we'll probably see him replacing Spreewell's role in a remake of that Priceline commercial Spree did with David Robinson a couple of years back.

[Dverde]

Sister still at it- but this time admits he quit.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/kawhi-leonards-sister-hints-at-spurs-parker-as-reasons-why-he-was-traded

THANK YOU for the clarification.

[SpurSpike]

Sister still at it- but this time admits he quit.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/kawhi-leonards-sister-hints-at-spurs-parker-as-reasons-why-he-was-traded

Now she is trying to insinuate that Parker left for the same reason as Kawhi? LOL

If there was stuff going on behind the scenes SPILL IT BITCH or STFU! OH, and have a blessed day!

[Dex]

Sister still at it- but this time admits he quit.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/kawhi-leonards-sister-hints-at-spurs-parker-as-reasons-why-he-was-traded

That dumb broad can't even write a complete sentence so who really cares? Every garbled mumble that has come out of her mouth has been wrong.

[Ice009]

Interesting. So which is it? I thought he didn't like Parker, but now Tony may have left for a similar reason to Kawhi. What exactly has been going on behind these closed doors?

[Fusternino]

Glad Kawhi is off the team. Beginning to see the reasoning in taking the Raptors trade over the Clippers trade. DDR is definitely a good guy and we need him right now.

[venitian navigator]

ther's simply not a single reason to take Kiwhi's side except if you are a relative or part of the group that is making money 'cause of him.
All things said against the team's behavior, also in tv, are practically non sense...Spurs behavior , considering the circumstances, has been perfect. If a behavior like Kiwhi's one was made against another team, think LA, the guy would be under nba investigation and probably under crime investigation. His sister is just trying to reabilitate the image of his brother, but no way...and no way the legue can consent behaviors like that anymore...considering the league is still not of the players, but of the owners...and I suppose no team's owner, having a contract with a player, can accept to be blackmailed like that...

[BillMc]

What exactly has been going on behind these closed doors?
I wonder what could possibly have gone on? Anything more than PATFO not giving Kawhi and his Uncle ridiculously special treatment? They were supposedly going to sign the super max extension but Pop wanted to hear that Kawhi was healthy and committed to the team before offering it. This was somehow read as an insult and seems to have been the last straw. But really his no show on the bench for the playoffs told us everything about KL's mindset even before the offseason.

[exstatic]

Interesting. So which is it? I thought he didn't like Parker, but now Tony may have left for a similar reason to Kawhi. What exactly has been going on behind these closed doors?

This is a case of his family trying to create some drama to cover for what a shit head he really is. Both his reputation, and that of his representation have taken HUGE hits over the past year. This is a simple attempt to deflect and obscure.

[manufan10]

I think she spoke up again because Jeff McDonald recently brought up his disappearing act again during a podcast. It seems like every time someone from the media talks a little negatively about Kawhi someone from his group releases something to the contrary.

And why should we take her word for it anyways? She claimed all season that Kawhi wanted to be a Spur for life, that he was coming back, that he loved this team, etc. and then they still pulled this.

[daslicer]

I think she spoke up again because Jeff McDonald recently brought up his disappearing act again during a podcast. It seems like every time someone from the media talks a little negatively about Kawhi someone from his group releases something to the contrary.

And why should we take her word for it anyways? She claimed all season that Kawhi wanted to be a Spur for life, that he was coming back, that he loved this team, etc. and then they still pulled this.

Like others have said before which is Kawhi and his team are a bunch of idiots. I don't understand the reason for them to respond over what Jeff says since he's a nobody that doesn't get national attention. If anything them responding in a defensive manner shows that they have something to hide and are guilty of wrong doing. A legit professional group wouldn't even bother to respond to Jeff or continue to address the Spurs. The best response is actually not responding and moving on.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1040028027453927424

[SpurSpike]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1040028027453927424

Leaving San Antonio? Going to follow the scent of Kawhi's brown star all the way to Toronto? Please let it be!

[Leetonidas]

Probably got hired on as Kawhis personal jizz mopper.

[NASpurs]

Jabroni Young is leaving? Officially the best offseason ever?

[Dverde]

Jabroni Young probably replacing Bowen on the Clippers games.

[blizz]

Fuck that dude and good riddance.

[Ruler]

seems like the league only has a policy for testing recreational drugs

but not for roids? explains why they try to avoid international tournaments that do testing
The NBA definitely tests for steroids. Joakim Noah got tested positive for LGD-4033, which is SARM. Those are expemsove tests and as far as I know, extensive. Although Growth Hormone / peptides can't be tested for, so I'm sure he took them to heal up quicker. Maybe some GHRP with MK-677. But most GH peptides you have to inject multiple times a day, I wouldnt put it past this snake

[hooperflash]

Jabroni's pinned tweet, LUL

[gambit1990]

pop can be father figure-ish to players... and part of the problem is that kawhi's uncle was already somewhat filling that role... and pop is the last person to say it's me or your uncle.

and the people kawhi's uncle aligned himself business-wise with are pro-trump... so naturally, they would be anti-pop and would undermine him staying in sa.

kawhi knows he would be great wherever he went so he didn't mind a fresh start somewhere else.

i don't fault kawhi AT ALL for wanting to play in la... it's where he's from. players are lauded for going home. it's hard for me to know how much to even blame him for this past season because i don't know what his health status really was.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

pop can be father figure-ish to players... and part of the problem is that kawhi's uncle was already somewhat filling that role... and pop is the last person to say it's me or your uncle.

and the people kawhi's uncle aligned himself business-wise with are pro-trump... so naturally, they would be anti-pop and would undermine him staying in sa.

kawhi knows he would be great wherever he went so he didn't mind a fresh start somewhere else.

i don't fault kawhi AT ALL for wanting to play in la... it's where he's from. players are lauded for going home. it's hard for me to know how much to even blame him for this past season because i don't know what his health status really was. I don't think anyone is mad about him leaving it's how he went about it that people are mad at.

[Dex]

I don't think anyone is mad about him leaving it's how he went about it that people are mad at.

I still don't get how people can't seem to understand this.

If Kawhi wanted to go to L.A., fine. Either wait for your contract to be up, or work privately with the front office so that a deal can be made to please both sides.

Instead Kawhi exaggerated his injury, quit on his team and coach, hid in the shadows while his "group" fed nonsense to the media which all but squashed his trade value, and demanded to go to one of two teams who had little to offer in the first place.

People were going to miss Kawhi either way, but the way he handled his business is what turned him into the villain.

[BillMc]

I still don't get how people can't seem to understand this.

If Kawhi wanted to go to L.A., fine. Either wait for your contract to be up, or work privately with the front office so that a deal can be made to please both sides.

Instead Kawhi exaggerated his injury, quit on his team and coach, hid in the shadows while his "group" fed nonsense to the media which all but squashed his trade value, and demanded to go to one of two teams who had little to offer in the first place.

People were going to miss Kawhi either way, but the way he handled his business is what turned him into the villain.

This. Dex for president.

[manufan10]

I still don't get how people can't seem to understand this.

If Kawhi wanted to go to L.A., fine. Either wait for your contract to be up, or work privately with the front office so that a deal can be made to please both sides.

Instead Kawhi exaggerated his injury, quit on his team and coach, hid in the shadows while his "group" fed nonsense to the media which all but squashed his trade value, and demanded to go to one of two teams who had little to offer in the first place.

People were going to miss Kawhi either way, but the way he handled his business is what turned him into the villain.

Exactly. Most posters here were even giving Kawhi the benefit of the doubt. I think the player's meeting opened some eyes, and then the fact that although he was "injured" he didn't even have the nerve to show up to games to support his teammates. It was very telling. Then came the reports that he hid from Spurs' staff when they went to check on his status, and that really struck a nerve. If you're really working your ass off to get back, like his sister claimed, then why the hell would you play hide and seek with the team? And then the reports that he would tell the guys he was coming back and then change his mind on game day was just the cherry on top. I don't know how anyone can defend his actions. The guy had it made here, because if he did this while on almost any other team he would have been crucified (and rightly so) in the media. Can't imagine the outrage had LeBron or KD had pulled this stunt.

[Fusternino]

Glad he's gone. Still think we got fleeced in that trade, though.

Wonder if his sister's actions on IG can be used to subpoena her phone? Spurs could probably sue.

[daslicer]

Exactly. Most posters here were even giving Kawhi the benefit of the doubt. I think the player's meeting opened some eyes, and then the fact that although he was "injured" he didn't even have the nerve to show up to games to support his teammates. It was very telling. Then came the reports that he hid from Spurs' staff when they went to check on his status, and that really struck a nerve. If you're really working your ass off to get back, like his sister claimed, then why the hell would you play hide and seek with the team? And then the reports that he would tell the guys he was coming back and then change his mind on game day was just the cherry on top. I don't know how anyone can defend his actions. The guy had it made here, because if he did this while on almost any other team he would have been crucified (and rightly so) in the media. Can't imagine the outrage had LeBron or KD had pulled this stunt.

1.His people and himself handled the situation in the most unprofessional way possible. If he wanted to leave he should have asked for a trade last summer and also he should have been open to other locations besides LA. I have known in the past when star players have wanted to be traded they have had a list of several teams and not just 2 based on a fucking location. To me that was some horseshit and ended up handicapping the Spurs in getting great value for him.

2. The injury bs also made me hate him from the beginning since I have family members and friends who are doctors that have stated that this type of injury is very minor and doesn't take long to recover from. I said in many posts dating back to around December that this injury was bs and his team was milking it to get him out of SA. The way he milked his bogus injury was the same way someone fakes whiplash to get money in a car accident. People like that disgust me.

3. You mention how the media would crucify KD or Lebron had they pulled this stunt. I agree with that statement and it's every evident when you see how they are trashing Leveon Bell who is pulling some similar shit to what Kawhi did to the Spurs. You have these talking heads ala Jalen Rose,Cris Carter who were pro Kawhi but are now anti-Leveon. It goes to show you the hypocrisy of the media that they were willing to bash and throw the Spurs under the bus simply because they wanted the Lakers to be relevant again or some big market team to acquire Kawhi.

In a nutshell I hate Kawhi because: he faked injury, sabotaged the Spurs when it came to getting good trade value by not asking for a trade last summer and also restricting the Spurs trade options only to the 2 LA teams, having his team using the media to trash the Spurs reputation along with spurs legends Parker and Manu.

[YGWHI]

2. The injury bs also made me hate him from the beginning since I have family members and friends who are doctors that have stated that this type of injury is very minor and doesn't take long to recover from. I said in many posts dating back to around December that this injury was bs and his team was milking it to get him out of SA. The way he milked his bogus injury was the same way someone fakes whiplash to get money in a car accident. People like that disgust me.

Sorry, your fams are wrong. Don't wanna talk about Kawhi. Just talk about quads injuries, the aren't minor injuries for pro players.

Tendinitis, tendinosis (tendinopathy), compartment syndrome, jumper's knee, ossifications/calcifications...All these issues are career-altering injuries because become chronic and just a few of them can be fixed by surgery.

When the inflammation of the tendon doesn't respond quickly to medications and anti-inflammatory treatments, every doctor already knows that the player will have problems his whole career.

[daslicer]

I love Kawhi so much that I really wish I could suck his dick.


FIFY

[YGWHI]

FIFY
At least I'm not the guy saying that quad injuries are minor issues in professional players careers.

[daslicer]

At least I'm not the guy saying that quad injuries are minor issues in professional players careers.

At least I'm not the guy who believes fake injuries are real injuries. Anyways debating with you is a waste of time. You have zero credibility with me since you are a hardcore Kawhi fanboy.

[YGWHI]

At least I'm not the guy who believes fake injuries are real injuries.
Kawhi had quad's issues since 2012..I guess you will say he faked it too.


Anyways debating with you is a waste of time. You have zero credibility with me since you are a hardcore Kawhi fanboy.
When Kawhi doesn't look himself and misses games due to his quad injury in this and next seasons, your credibility will suffer.

Who knows but when fake injuries affect players' games and health...I would say they are real injuries. We'll see.

[offset formation]

Sister still at it- but this time admits he quit.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/kawhi-leonards-sister-hints-at-spurs-parker-as-reasons-why-he-was-traded

Yeah, well there's this super secret reason he quit you see, and I'm his sister and I know.

Lol. Thank the Lord Jesus and Baby Jesus this fool is the fuck up outta here. He proves himself the antithesis of a true Spur by the day. His talents will be missed. He will not. We dodged a bullet on this.

[offset formation]

Probably got hired on as Kawhis personal jizz mopper.

YGWHI...oh you were talking about Jabari? My mistake.

[daslicer]

Kawhi had quad's issues since 2012..I guess you will say he faked it too.


When Kawhi doesn't look himself and misses games due to his quad injury in this and next seasons, your credibility will suffer.

Who knows but when fake injuries affect players' games and health...I would say they are real injuries. We'll see.

I actually see Kawhi only missing a few games next year. It's a big year for him since it's a contract year. You will see he played you like a fool when he has a MVP type of season. Anyways like I said before you have no credibility with me.

[daslicer]

YGWHI...oh you were talking about Jabari? My mistake.

:lol

[LCM]

The tendenitis in 2012 was in his left leg according to SB Nation 11/16/2012. Written by Brendan Porath. Not his right quad which is the one in question. Seems the left one has been fine since the 10-14 day rest he received in 2012.

[WallyTiger]

I love Kawhi so much that I really wish I could suck her pussy.
FIFY

[BatManu20]

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[Thomas82]

I still don't get how people can't seem to understand this.

If Kawhi wanted to go to L.A., fine. Either wait for your contract to be up, or work privately with the front office so that a deal can be made to please both sides.

Instead Kawhi exaggerated his injury, quit on his team and coach, hid in the shadows while his "group" fed nonsense to the media which all but squashed his trade value, and demanded to go to one of two teams who had little to offer in the first place.

People were going to miss Kawhi either way, but the way he handled his business is what turned him into the villain.

+1

[TimmyBuckets]

Honestly who gaf where nephew and uncle daddy go to? Its a business and there's no loyalty from either side. The selfless superstar days are gone. With Pop's time coming to an end, the roster being shit, and the need for a super team to complete for a chip, its no surprise nephew wanted to leave. Who cares which rapist uncle daddy lets nephew work out with tbh?

[spursparker9]

Report: Spurs preferred Joel Embiid or Ben Simmons in Kawhi Leonard trade

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-spurs-preferred-joel-embiid-120041662.html

[picnroll]

So mean old Tony hurt the snowflakes feelings so he quit. I get it.

[daslicer]

Report: Spurs preferred Joel Embiid or Ben Simmons in Kawhi Leonard trade

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-spurs-preferred-joel-embiid-120041662.html

I'll give the FO credit for trying.

[spursparker9]

I'll give the FO credit for trying.

Probably for the best that eventually we got Derozan.

Can't see Embiid or Simmons willing to stay in SA. They probably would ask for a trade or leave as free agent after contract is up

[SpursDynasty85]

Probably for the best that eventually we got Derozan.

Can't see Embiid or Simmons willing to stay in SA. They probably would ask for a trade or leave as free agent after contract is up

Yep. Same with those Lakers players. Spurs do their due diligence. This was the best shot term and long term assets they could get. Poeltl seems like he love t ok stay and be groomed by 3 of the greatest 7 footers from the last 20 years. (TD, Gasol, LMA)

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkNuJ1r0F8U

[iGetbuckets]

According to Ramona if Kawhi goes to LA it will be to the clippers not the lakers .

[John B]

Funny how these pictures of Kobe, LeBron, KD working out with Kawhitter looks to me like they’re snooping where his game at, if he still has it maybe nab him for next season? Sorry but like flies on shit. I know it’s just a game, but too much opposing players consorting with each other, conniving to form superteams. Fuck that. Feels like the fans don’t have any choice but watch what these players decide. I think there’s something wrong about it, out of balance, players and their managers have too much say how to form their team, especially in the aftermath of Kawhi sitting out the season, faking injuries, now maybe making plans with other players for next season, and has not even played a single minute with his new team, disgusting.

[DJR210]

1040622116473921536

:lmao Uncle Dennis and is faggoty head tilt
:lmao Kawhi hands at his sides awkward af at the thought of male camaraderie

[daslicer]

:lmao Uncle Dennis and is faggoty head tilt
:lmao Kawhi hands at his sides awkward af at the thought of male camaraderie

That guy isn't Uncle Dennis.

[DJR210]

That guy isn't Uncle Dennis.

The clown on his left kinda looks like him :lol

[RD2191]

That guy isn't Uncle Dennis.

Yeah, I was like wtf :lol

[daslicer]

The clown on his left kinda looks like him :lol

Well he's definitely a snake like Uncle Dennis.

[DJR210]

Well he's definitely a snake like Uncle Dennis.

It's definitely a problem when Kobe is the far and away alpha of your group picture..

[DJR210]

Yeah, I was like wtf :lol

Tbh it's not too hard to see unless you stared at his pic for hours a day in disgust

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/dennis-robertson-linkedin.jpeg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

add a grey beard and it's the same clown IMO

[hooperflash]

Why does Kawhi's best friend look just like Cash Nasty though? :lol

[Uncle Dennis]

:lmao Uncle Dennis and is faggoty head tilt
:lmao Kawhi hands at his sides awkward af at the thought of male camaraderie

Not me. I was doing my son-figure’s laundry. Need to keep his uniforms clean all the way up to the Finals.

[gambit1990]

i'll still be fan. i'll actually like the raptors for the first time ever. dude will tear it up, his style of play is exactly what you'd want out a player.

[Dverde]

I want him to play well in Toronto then leave for the Lakers. Sign some enormous deal with Lakers then suck either by injury or loss of athleticism. He will be hated by Spurs, Raptors, and Lakers fan.

[spursparker9]

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-rumors-lakers-not-kawhi-013755267.html

NBA Rumors: Lakers not Kawhi Leonard's top choice in free agency

[lmbebo]

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-rumors-lakers-not-kawhi-013755267.html

NBA Rumors: Lakers not Kawhi Leonard's top choice in free agency


He's an asshole. Bush league crap the last year. Now it wasn't because of some mysterious slight someone in the spurs did. Its because Spurs weren't close to winning . Give me a break. WCF with him playing isn't close to winning ...

[hombre]

Yay, now Toronto has to deal with this bullshit and distraction all year.

[TimmyBuckets]

With all due respect, why is this still in the Spurs forum?

[sammy]

1.His people and himself handled the situation in the most unprofessional way possible. If he wanted to leave he should have asked for a trade last summer and also he should have been open to other locations besides LA. I have known in the past when star players have wanted to be traded they have had a list of several teams and not just 2 based on a fucking location. To me that was some horseshit and ended up handicapping the Spurs in getting great value for him.

2. The injury bs also made me hate him from the beginning since I have family members and friends who are doctors that have stated that this type of injury is very minor and doesn't take long to recover from. I said in many posts dating back to around December that this injury was bs and his team was milking it to get him out of SA. The way he milked his bogus injury was the same way someone fakes whiplash to get money in a car accident. People like that disgust me.

3. You mention how the media would crucify KD or Lebron had they pulled this stunt. I agree with that statement and it's every evident when you see how they are trashing Leveon Bell who is pulling some similar shit to what Kawhi did to the Spurs. You have these talking heads ala Jalen Rose,Cris Carter who were pro Kawhi but are now anti-Leveon. It goes to show you the hypocrisy of the media that they were willing to bash and throw the Spurs under the bus simply because they wanted the Lakers to be relevant again or some big market team to acquire Kawhi.

In a nutshell I hate Kawhi because: he faked injury, sabotaged the Spurs when it came to getting good trade value by not asking for a trade last summer and also restricting the Spurs trade options only to the 2 LA teams, having his team using the media to trash the Spurs reputation along with spurs legends Parker and Manu.

Well said! I agree completely! :bobo He'll get hurt again as other coaches won't care about limiting his minutes! He will be playing 40 plus minutes a game and I can see him whining about his so-called quad injury hurting again! Boo hoo sing me a river!

[ace3g]

Well Jabari is not going to Canada....

https://twitter.com/Dame_Lillard/status/1041812776086208512

[bic50]

He's an asshole. Bush league crap the last year. Now it wasn't because of some mysterious slight someone in the spurs did. Its because Spurs weren't close to winning . Give me a break. WCF with him playing isn't close to winning ...
So mad

[objective]

Well Jabari is not going to Canada....

https://twitter.com/Dame_Lillard/status/1041812776086208512

it's funny, he was just on the Dunc'd On Podcast released today, and his whole Spurs-hating schtick had turned around a lot. He was kissing Pop's ass in a way that was uncomfortable for the first 30 minutes. Eventually he got into his "Spurs have to adapt to players because they run the league" rant, but he was unusually positive about the Spurs. At the end he spoke about getting his credentials renewed and such in regards to getting ready for the upcoming season. I feel bad for fans who would listen to the show thinking they got a good hour of info, because Jabari was as context-free and lacking good info as I would have expected from McDougal.

I've thought about subscribing to The Athletic even though I don't read much because the media and blogboys don't have much to offer me with their lack of context and lack of insight. But I was thinking of doing it because I would like to see Sports media have a wider variety of opportunities to make a living. The fall of traditional media has been rough on sports coverage.

But if Jabari gets on The Athletic and is covering the Spurs beat, then I can rest easy not giving them money because Jabari is bottom of the barrel when it comes to covering the Spurs, only one step above McDougal and below the likes of the other Spurs blogboys.

[Ice009]

What is the "The Athletic"?

[objective]

What is the "The Athletic"?

It's a subscriber-only online sportswriting hub, kind of like SPORT magazine 30 years ago or SI but with lots of regional or city specific writers, promoted often as better journalism with either or more long-form stuff or stats stuff, depends on who's trying to promote it. An attempt to be a 'netflix' of sports journalism.

Venture capital funded, probably out of business in a few years.

https://thebiglead.com/2018/06/04/the-athletic-has-over-100k-subscribers-needs-several-times-more-to-endure/

If they're paying Jabari, their quality threshold for well informed, interesting writing is very poor.

[weeks]

With all due respect, why is this still in the Spurs forum?

i get that everyone wants to be 'over it' and a lot of us are still bitter at the way things went down but lets admit, it's interesting to see the drama unfold on some other poor fuckin team.

yeah you could have it downstairs but that place has basically zero traffic. this was a big enough deal to warrant at least a single thread in the main forum

[BillMc]

I want him to play well in Toronto then leave for the Lakers. Sign some enormous deal with Lakers then suck either by injury or loss of athleticism. He will be hated by Spurs, Raptors, and Lakers fan.

I want him to play just well enough to secure us the best pick from Toronto, then explode into flames like a Spinal Tap drummer never to be seen again.

Barring that, I hope he goes to the Clippers. Anyone that willingly goes to the Clippers gets what they deserve.

[TimmyBuckets]

i get that everyone wants to be 'over it' and a lot of us are still bitter at the way things went down but lets admit, it's interesting to see the drama unfold on some other poor fuckin team.

yeah you could have it downstairs but that place has basically zero traffic. this was a big enough deal to warrant at least a single thread in the main forum

I don't think it's interesting nor do I think there's drama. Even if there was, who gaf what uncle lets nephew do with his time? IDK maybe it's just me that doesn't consider faggot deserving of even being in this part of the forum.

[offset formation]

I want him to play just well enough to secure us the best pick from Toronto, then explode into flames like a Spinal Tap drummer never to be seen again.

Barring that, I hope he goes to the Clippers. Anyone that willingly goes to the Clippers gets what they deserve.

Every word of this.

[KDKSpurs24]

I want him to play just well enough to secure us the best pick from Toronto, then explode into flames like a Spinal Tap drummer never to be seen again.

Barring that, I hope he goes to the Clippers. Anyone that willingly goes to the Clippers gets what they deserve.
I agree. I would definitely hope it would be the 21st pick

[weeks]

I don't think it's interesting nor do I think there's drama. Even if there was, who gaf what uncle lets nephew do with his time? IDK maybe it's just me that doesn't consider faggot deserving of even being in this part of the forum.

sure, i think it is though. the fans in toronto are gonna hate kawhi by year's end

[spurraider21]

It's a subscriber-only online sportswriting hub, kind of like SPORT magazine 30 years ago or SI but with lots of regional or city specific writers, promoted often as better journalism with either or more long-form stuff or stats stuff, depends on who's trying to promote it. An attempt to be a 'netflix' of sports journalism.

Venture capital funded, probably out of business in a few years.

https://thebiglead.com/2018/06/04/the-athletic-has-over-100k-subscribers-needs-several-times-more-to-endure/

If they're paying Jabari, their quality threshold for well informed, interesting writing is very poor.
ive been holding off on subscribing, but will likely cave sooner than later. their football coverage is pretty good, they have guys that do good film review, etc.

not sure if i'd subscribe there if basketball was my primary reason tho

[SpurPadre]

Why is this thread still being revived? Fuck this piece of shit. This is Spurstalk, not bitchtalk, tbh.

[tbdog]

Because it still confusing a hurtful. Reading all these stories about him on how he is healthy and is a gym junkie. Yet the guy was never around our team last season; considering it was Manu likely last season, TP was recovering from a big injury, ex teammate dies in car crash, and the coach's wife dies during the playoffs.

[offset formation]

Because it still confusing a hurtful. Reading all these stories about him on how he is healthy and is a gym junkie. Yet the guy was never around our team last season; considering it was Manu likely last season, TP was recovering from a big injury, ex teammate dies in car crash, and the coach's wife dies during the playoffs.

Yep. Bitch moves all around. And I don't even care why, tbh. He vacated the season for all intents and purposes. Then deserted his teammates so much so that they had to convene a team meeting to call his bitch-ass out. Then for the final diss, he trashed the team, and PATFO especially, on his way out. No respect for him as a person whatsoever. None.

A first class bitch belt, that guy earned.

[Uncle Dennis]

Why is this thread still being revived? Fuck this piece of shit. This is Spurstalk, not bitchtalk, tbh.

Son-figure is not a bitch.

[TimmyBuckets]

Why is this thread still being revived? Fuck this piece of shit. This is Spurstalk, not bitchtalk, tbh.

[manufan10]

:lol at TimmyBuckets continuously bumping the thread by complaining that it's still here.

[YGWHI]

YGWHI...oh you were talking about Jabari? My mistake.


it's funny, he was just on the Dunc'd On Podcast released today, and his whole Spurs-hating schtick had turned around a lot. He was kissing Pop's ass in a way that was uncomfortable for the first 30 minutes. Eventually he got into his "Spurs have to adapt to players because they run the league" rant, but he was unusually positive about the Spurs. At the end he spoke about getting his credentials renewed and such in regards to getting ready for the upcoming season. I feel bad for fans who would listen to the show thinking they got a good hour of info, because Jabari was as context-free and lacking good info as I would have expected from McDougal.


If they're paying Jabari, their quality threshold for well informed, interesting writing is very poor

I guess most fans here will never get this...Jabari Young has always picked players' side.

When LeBron left CLE/MIA, when LMA left Portland...When LMA played poorly in 2017, fans roasted Jabari on Tw because he was the only one saying Aldridge was still better than Blake and any other PF in the league, when fans kept complaining about LMA's sign, Jabari told them they should wait...He was right.

When Jabari says the Spurs should adapt to new generations, he believes it.

In March, before players/coach comments, Jabari was the first to talk about how a franchise could alienate/lose a player. No one wanted to hear him.

Players trust him and talk with him in a way that other SA reporters only can dream. Why? Because he's real. He believes this league should be a players' league over owners, he truly believes in players' unity movement.

Why do you think that Dame tweeted it? Players love Jabari.

[exstatic]

I guess most fans here will never get this...Jabari Young has always picked players' side.

When LeBron left CLE/MIA, when LMA left Portland...When LMA played poorly in 2017, fans roasted Jabari on Tw because he was the only one saying Aldridge was still better than Blake and any other PF in the league, when fans kept complaining about LMA's sign, Jabari told them they should wait...He was right.

When Jabari says the Spurs should adapt to new generations, he believes it.

In March, before players/coach comments, Jabari was the first to talk about how a franchise could alienate/lose a player. No one wanted to hear him.

Players trust him and talk with him in a way that other SA reporters only can dream. Why? Because he's real. He believes this league should be a players' league over owners, he truly believes in players' unity movement.

Why do you think that Dame tweeted it? Players love Jabari.

You keep doing that. you'll go blind.

Seriously, you really believe it's OK to start forcing your way off of a team with TWO FUCKING YEARS left on your deal? Because that's when this started, in August of '17 when his 'group' took over his rehab, and moved it to NYC.

This isn't a guy leaving in FA, it's one that bitched out on his team and organization.

[SpursDynasty85]

I guess most fans here will never get this...Jabari Young has always picked players' side.

When LeBron left CLE/MIA, when LMA left Portland...When LMA played poorly in 2017, fans roasted Jabari on Tw because he was the only one saying Aldridge was still better than Blake and any other PF in the league, when fans kept complaining about LMA's sign, Jabari told them they should wait...He was right.

When Jabari says the Spurs should adapt to new generations, he believes it.

In March, before players/coach comments, Jabari was the first to talk about how a franchise could alienate/lose a player. No one wanted to hear him.

Players trust him and talk with him in a way that other SA reporters only can dream. Why? Because he's real. He believes this league should be a players' league over owners, he truly believes in players' unity movement.

Why do you think that Dame tweeted it? Players love Jabari.

So blindly kissing up to super star players is his way of staying relevant. This should not be a player's league. It should be a nice combination. This league and the way basketball is being played is TERRIBLE. Bunch of ball hogging no ball movement, selfish-play. Spurs aren't perfect but I'm glad they didn't give into Uncle Dennis. He as well as Kawhi obviously had to go.

[jermaine]

Can you'll ban anything Kawhi related in the Spurs forum??

[objective]

I guess most fans here will never get this...Jabari Young has always picked players' side.

When LeBron left CLE/MIA, when LMA left Portland...When LMA played poorly in 2017, fans roasted Jabari on Tw because he was the only one saying Aldridge was still better than Blake and any other PF in the league, when fans kept complaining about LMA's sign, Jabari told them they should wait...He was right.

When Jabari says the Spurs should adapt to new generations, he believes it.

In March, before players/coach comments, Jabari was the first to talk about how a franchise could alienate/lose a player. No one wanted to hear him.

Players trust him and talk with him in a way that other SA reporters only can dream. Why? Because he's real. He believes this league should be a players' league over owners, he truly believes in players' unity movement.

Why do you think that Dame tweeted it? Players love Jabari.

I don't care about what side he's on, he's worthless on giving any basketball related information. There's a reason he was getting negative reviews from non-spurs fans for his Dunc'd On appearance: compared to every other team preview guest, Jabari gave the least detailed and most obvious answers to everything except what I outlined.

People compared it to a First Take appearance: bland hot takes without any nuance or insight. "Pop's a great coach", "Players run the league", "Rudy Gay can score 19 points a game next year". McDougal is no better, hell, he's worse.

Just one example:. I think Jabari claimed that the Spurs went big last year and it didn't work. But he didn't explain how they couldn't really go big or stay big when the only other big, Joffrey, was so awful that Pop couldn't choose to be big because of the hard staggering he had to do when starting Pau and LMA. Joffrey was so awful I think he had over 15 active DNP-CDs and about the same number of games under 5 minutes. Over 30 games where Pop had decided Joffrey was too shitty to play unless it was absolute garbage time.

Compared to this year with Poeltl, there could be a huge difference in whether Pop goes big. It's not something people who didn't follow the Spurs would necessarily know about. They might think, "Poeltl is good, he could play in the regular rotation" but wouldn't comprehend how much of an upgrade it is from last year to this.

When asked about players who could decline this year, and offered Pau as an example by the host, Jabari just blathered on about something like 'I spoke to Pau at season's end and he still thinks he can play' and 'Pau is still one of the smartest guys'. Basically just vague TV show trash, that anyone who didn't watch a single game could say.

What could change with Pau's role without the need to stagger him and LMA so much? Could he even be moved to the bench with Manu's absence to try to get more playmaking of any sort into that unit? What will his minutes be like and why? Or does he need to start to add spacing from the center position? What were his season splits like? What does that suggest about next year? . These things listeners didn't really get.

He barely mentioned Patty Mills, didn't inform people about how last year was arguably his worst year since his rookie campaign, didn't get into anything with his contract or comments or weight or defensive slippage or anything. Just talked about how Mills could be in the lineup 'when they need scoring' or something like that.

Basically it was a 5 minute ESPN show segment breakdown for something like PtI spread over an hour.

He's just not useful to anyone who wants to be well informed about what's up on the court.

[objective]

I'll add that stats, advanced stats, splits, lineup data, etc etc aren't something that Jabari or Jeff McDonald have any use for.

That's how they can make appearances and tweets and write and turn Spurs fans off.

[Uriel]

The Clippers have two max contract slots available in July, and are emerging as a front-runner for Toronto's All-NBA forward Kawhi Leonard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6450/kawhi-leonard) when he becomes a free agent in July, league sources said.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24733577/jimmy-butler-minnesota-timberwolves-seeking-trade-brooklyn-nets-la-clippers-new-york-knicks

[LakerHater]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24733577/jimmy-butler-minnesota-timberwolves-seeking-trade-brooklyn-nets-la-clippers-new-york-knicks
Perfect for Kawhitter & Jimmy Butler

[Coach X]

I guess most fans here will never get this...Jabari Young has always picked players' side.

When LeBron left CLE/MIA, when LMA left Portland...When LMA played poorly in 2017, fans roasted Jabari on Tw because he was the only one saying Aldridge was still better than Blake and any other PF in the league, when fans kept complaining about LMA's sign, Jabari told them they should wait...He was right.

When Jabari says the Spurs should adapt to new generations, he believes it.

In March, before players/coach comments, Jabari was the first to talk about how a franchise could alienate/lose a player. No one wanted to hear him.

Players trust him and talk with him in a way that other SA reporters only can dream. Why? Because he's real. He believes this league should be a players' league over owners, he truly believes in players' unity movement.

Why do you think that Dame tweeted it? Players love Jabari.

Jabari doesn't care about the players, he just wants to be close to them and make the most of it as a lot of those non-journalist leeching star players. These guys don't care about players lives or their future more than a drug dealer when he gets along with kids on a party. Say whatever has to be said so you can move up on the ladder fast and get a bigger check at the end of the month. Have you heard any of these guys saying anything about retired players? Secondary players? Undrafted guys? G-league players?

Don't go wrong there, Jabari and these parasites take advantage of the players they're supposed to defend.


And my opinion has nothing to do with the debate around if this should be a players league or not nor about the quality of the local press in San Antonio (that I don't particularly like).

[daslicer]

Jabari doesn't care about the players, he just wants to be close to them and make the most of it as a lot of those non-journalist leeching star players. These guys don't care about players lives or their future more than a drug dealer when he gets along with kids on a party. Say whatever has to be said so you can move up on the ladder fast and get a bigger check at the end of the month. Have you heard any of these guys saying anything about retired players? Secondary players? Undrafted guys? G-league players?

Don't go wrong there, Jabari and these parasites take advantage of the players they're supposed to defend.


And my opinion has nothing to do with the debate around if this should be a players league or not nor about the quality of the local press in San Antonio (that I don't particularly like).

Agreed. Jabari is a wannabe Stephen A Smith. I feel a lot of these guys aspire to get to the position that Stephen A has.

[iGetbuckets]

Uncle Dennis didn’t want kawhi to play and convinced Kawhi that they were trying to work him until he hurt himself because he was in a contract year.



https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/9hjcez/just_attended_a_lecture_with_kawhis_marketing_guy/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/9hjcez/just_attended_a_lecture_with_kawhis_marketing_guy/)


:lmao Dennis has to be the biggest faggot In the world

[John B]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24733577/jimmy-butler-minnesota-timberwolves-seeking-trade-brooklyn-nets-la-clippers-new-york-knicks

Who the fuck cares? Kawhitter can play for the WNBA and those women have more balls than him.

[Ice009]

What, is he saying that Uncle Dennis was telling him that the Spurs wanted him to play hurt to drive down his value?

[iGetbuckets]

What, is he saying that Uncle Dennis was telling him that the Spurs wanted him to play hurt to drive down his value?

Yup crazy if true

[manufan10]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/9hjcez/just_attended_a_lecture_with_kawhis_marketing_guy/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/9hjcez/just_attended_a_lecture_with_kawhis_marketing_guy/)


:lmao Dennis has to be the biggest faggot In the world

How gullible is Nephew if this is the case? He saw firsthand how the Spurs always took care of Manu, Tony, and Tim. They took every precaution necessary to make sure those guys didn't come back too soon or had plenty of rest during the season. Hell, they were even still offering him a max contract even after all of the shenanigans that he pulled this season.

[Maddog]

What, is he saying that Uncle Dennis was telling him that the Spurs wanted him to play hurt to drive down his value?

I think there is plently of indirect evidence something like this was going on.

[Dejounte]

What a piece of shit Uncle Dennis is.

[RD2191]

Hopefully Zaza can finish the job this season.

[BillMc]

Hopefully Zaza can finish the job this season.

Amazing how my view of Zaza has changed. :bobo

[BillMc]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/9hjcez/just_attended_a_lecture_with_kawhis_marketing_guy/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/9hjcez/just_attended_a_lecture_with_kawhis_marketing_guy/)


:lmao Dennis has to be the biggest faggot In the world

Yeah, because damaging your franchise player is the goal of every model team.

Either this story is BS or Kawhi is dumb as a rock.

[RD2191]

Amazing how my view of Zaza has changed. :bobo

Tbh :lol all he did was expose Kawhi as the fraud that he really is.

[BillMc]

Tbh :lol all he did was expose Kawhi as the fraud that he really is.

Truth.

Good to have the real you back without the doppleganger. :fro

[RD2191]

Truth.

Good to have the real you back without the doppleganger. :fro

Yeah, that rosalio fellow is a real son of a bitch. Jk. :lol

[objective]

toronto radio hack making all the locals lose their minds

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Raptors guys had been talking up a presser for weeks before it fell apart

Kawhi being Kawhi

[RD2191]

toronto radio hack making all the locals lose their minds

1043089315507531779

1043089580331659265

Raptors guys had been talking up a presser for weeks before it fell apart

Kawhi being Kawhi

Man, Kawhi might be the biggest bitch in NBA history.

[Dex]

Man, Kawhi might be the biggest bitch in NBA history.

Raptors fans and their media are all giddy over the idea that Kawhi will fall in love with Toronto...and this motherfucker won't even show his face until he is literally contractually obligated to do so at media day.

Even then...ill be surprised if he shows up.

[Uncle Dennis]

I guess most fans here will never get this...Jabari Young has always picked players' side.

When LeBron left CLE/MIA, when LMA left Portland...When LMA played poorly in 2017, fans roasted Jabari on Tw because he was the only one saying Aldridge was still better than Blake and any other PF in the league, when fans kept complaining about LMA's sign, Jabari told them they should wait...He was right.

When Jabari says the Spurs should adapt to new generations, he believes it.

In March, before players/coach comments, Jabari was the first to talk about how a franchise could alienate/lose a player. No one wanted to hear him.

Players trust him and talk with him in a way that other SA reporters only can dream. Why? Because he's real. He believes this league should be a players' league over owners, he truly believes in players' unity movement.

Why do you think that Dame tweeted it? Players love Jabari.

I like your style and your devotion to my son-figure nephew. TBH one of the best posters in ST hands down.

[WallyTiger]

I like your style and your devotion to my son-figure nephew. TBH one of the best posters in ST hands down.
dont talk to yourself

[koriwhat]

Hopefully Zaza can finish the job this season.

:tu

[Big Empty]

Kawhi is going to see the grass is greener on the other side after this season. He will beg the Spurs for an interview after this season when the Spurs make it to the wcf without him and he gets stomped by Boston. He & uncle Dennis will ha eva falling out. Thats my prediction for next July.

[exstatic]

Kawhi is going to see the grass is greener on the other side after this season. He will beg the Spurs for an interview after this season when the Spurs make it to the wcf without him and he gets stomped by Boston. He & uncle Dennis will ha eva falling out. Thats my prediction for next July.

Nope. People rarely admit they were fools. The Group will just continue to do Group things.

[kobyz]

Can you'll ban anything Kawhi related in the Spurs forum??

Your feeling still hurt?

[BillMc]

toronto radio hack making all the locals lose their minds

1043089315507531779

1043089580331659265

Raptors guys had been talking up a presser for weeks before it fell apart

Kawhi being Kawhi

You trade for an alleged franchise player and can't even get him to attend an introductory press conference. Bodes well for harmony in the future.

[Dex]

You trade for an alleged franchise player and can't even get him to attend an introductory press conference. Bodes well for harmony in the future.

Kawhi is probably afraid that they are going to ask him why he has been such a little bitch. :cry

I don't blame him. I wouldn't want to show my face either after the way he handled this whole situation.

[John B]

Kawhi is going to see the grass is greener on the other side after this season. He will beg the Spurs for an interview after this season when the Spurs make it to the wcf without him and he gets stomped by Boston. He & uncle Dennis will ha eva falling out. Thats my prediction for next July.
nope the bridge is burnt, no coming back

[superbigtime]

The more he does this crap w Toronto, the more it will become plainly clear to the league and media that the whole falling out ordeal w Spurs is on Kawhitter.

[objective]

You trade for an alleged franchise player and can't even get him to attend an introductory press conference. Bodes well for harmony in the future.

There has been pushback from Doug Smith on Twitter, a guy who covers the team for the local rag and is a homer. He's soothing the fans over by asserting:

A. DeRozan didn't have a Spurs introductory conference
B. Spurs fans don't seem to care that he didn't

That's won over Raptors fans

What he's too stupid or homerish to point out is that:

A. While DeRozan hasn't had a press conference, he's given multiple press interviews, including long one-on-ones where he's spoken at length, plus appeared at public events with comments, and also made public comments on social media

And

B. Of course Spurs fans aren't sweating DeRozan not having an introductory press conference, he's under contract past this coming year, he's not going anywhere for some time

[Maddog]

You trade for an alleged franchise player and can't even get him to attend an introductory press conference. Bodes well for harmony in the future.

The Spurs helped make him who he is. He contributed to a title. It's clear, that although he is a great talent, he is not the one to lead the Spurs going forward. It'll be interesting how he handles no longer being protected by the Spurs organization.

[sasaint]

The more he does this crap w Toronto, the more it will become plainly clear to the league and media that the whole falling out ordeal w Spurs is on Kawhitter.

True, that. :tu

[BillMc]

There has been pushback from Doug Smith on Twitter, a guy who covers the team for the local rag and is a homer. He's soothing the fans over by asserting:

A. DeRozan didn't have a Spurs introductory conference
B. Spurs fans don't seem to care that he didn't

That's won over Raptors fans

What he's too stupid or homerish to point out is that:

A. While DeRozan hasn't had a press conference, he's given multiple press interviews, including long one-on-ones where he's spoken at length, plus appeared at public events with comments, and also made public comments on social media

And

B. Of course Spurs fans aren't sweating DeRozan not having an introductory press conference, he's under contract past this coming year, he's not going anywhere for some time

Very good points. And I'm sure if RC wanted DMDR to have a press conference, he would.

[Duncan87]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1013748891089588224/fJA757hV_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun)Ryan Wolstat (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun) @WolstatSun (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun)
3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun/status/1043937256543784961)
Kawhi will be officially introduced tomorrow morning with Danny Green (10:30 ET). Lowry a little later. Wonder if Lowry even addresses the trade. He’s declined to discuss things on occasion in past, sticking to other subjects.
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[exstatic]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1013748891089588224/fJA757hV_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun)Ryan Wolstat (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun) @WolstatSun (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun)
3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun/status/1043937256543784961)
Kawhi will be officially introduced tomorrow morning with Danny Green (10:30 ET). Lowry a little later. Wonder if Lowry even addresses the trade. He’s declined to discuss things on occasion in past, sticking to other subjects.
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The presser will be in NY, and they’ll have to find him as the group moves him around.

[gambit1990]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1013748891089588224/fJA757hV_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun)Ryan Wolstat (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun) @WolstatSun (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun)
3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/WolstatSun/status/1043937256543784961)
Kawhi will be officially introduced tomorrow morning with Danny Green (10:30 ET). Lowry a little later. Wonder if Lowry even addresses the trade. He’s declined to discuss things on occasion in past, sticking to other subjects.
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interesting.

raptors should trade lowry. and not just for acting like a bitch.

[daslicer]

It's amazing how good this clown looked in this highlight video. Especially from the 8 minute mark you can tell he was 100 percent. Will always believe this clown faked injury.

hVfqtdU6U-o

[tbdog]

It's amazing how good this clown looked in this highlight video. Especially from the 8 minute mark you can tell he was 100 percent. Will always believe this clown faked injury.

hVfqtdU6U-o

The injury was real at some stage. But he was healthy at another stage well prior to the end of the season.

[bklynspursfan]

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[Duncan87]

Looks Sour as shit😂😂😂

[SAGirl]

I can’t and don’t hate Kawhi. He’s a spectacular talent and I’ll enjoy watching him wherever he is, if he’s healthy.

As a Spurs fan I only feel sour that he didn’t play last season like he could have if he’d been healthy and that had he played the Spurs would have been able to get a better haul. I’ll never know the truth about that injury. I believe it was very real at some point.

[bklynspursfan]

That laugh :huh

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[r0drig0lac]

That laugh :huh

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LMAO, a hell of a player, but Kawhi sure has a degree of autism

[bklynspursfan]

Tom Orsborn from SAEN trying to get something from Kawhi, naturally nothing came of it. But that weird laugh again. LDN saying "you knew that was coming"

Such a tool for his 'no regrets' comment

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[Arcadian]

"I'm a fine guy."

A fine guy. That's what he has to say about himself.

[bklynspursfan]

"I'm a fine guy."

A fine guy. That's what he has to say about himself.

Believe he said fun guy

[NASpurs]

THANK YOU!

[BatManu20]

Lol Kawhi sounding as retarded as ever

[OffTheWallJamal]

I got one picture with Kawhi, which was taken after his press conference , sucks that the guy who took the photo had an android phone tbh

https://image.ibb.co/fzbUP9/822ygcg.jpg

[iGetbuckets]

“ No regrets” what a faggot

[Immortal Spur]

*inserts bitter Kawhi response

[BillMc]

Obviously Kawhi is the far better player, but I'll miss Danny. Liked his honesty in his interviews.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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Tom Orsborn from SAEN trying to get something from Kawhi, naturally nothing came of it. But that weird laugh again. LDN saying "you knew that was coming"

Such a tool for his 'no regrets' comment

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What a tool.

[bklynspursfan]

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[TDMVPDPOY]

that fkn laugh hahahahaha

why didnt he laugh like that at the fkn spurs, oh yeh thats right...patfo want him to get over himself

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UelRLuz-qQI

[bklynspursfan]

that fkn laugh hahahahaha

why didnt he laugh like that at the fkn spurs, oh yeh thats right...patfo want him to get over himself

I'm betting that has nothing to do with it...

[TDMVPDPOY]

I'm betting that has nothing to do with it...

must be money
must be big3 tosb not retiring, but they were on their way out anyway
being robin to lma? everybody knows lma is robin

3tosb not retiring after last championship is what i think pushed him out if he wanted to be the franchise, and pop still playing favoritism with his players

[RD2191]

Fuck Kawhi. Bitch ass nigga. Where's Zaza when you need him?

[davi78239]

See shots fired at city of sa. Guess we suck as a fan base and our city sucks. I guess we were too old too according to Danny

[TDMVPDPOY]

he looks like he loss alot of mass...

[UncleDennis]

He's a fungi?

Is it too late to sign that jordan brand extension?

[bklynspursfan]

must be money
must be big3 tosb not retiring, but they were on their way out anyway
being robin to lma? everybody knows lma is robin

3tosb not retiring after last championship is what i think pushed him out if he wanted to be the franchise, and pop still playing favoritism with his players

How about the obvious... His& his camps image has been pretty shitty since about Feb/March (rightfully so)

He's gotta make himself more marketable at this point. It's literally what Uncle Dennis's company does for athletes. And by athletes, I mean Kawhi.

https://4protocol.net/athlete-protocol-and-etiquette-training/#athletes

[John B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UelRLuz-qQI
Kawhitter shows no fun memories of Spurs, faced shifted fast to almost like contempt when Spurs was mentioned. Sorry I don’t really wish this ingrate well, punkass

[TDMVPDPOY]

How about the obvious... His& his camps image has been pretty shitty since about Feb/March (rightfully so)

He's gotta make himself more marketable at this point. It's literally what Uncle Dennis's company does for athletes. And by athletes, I mean Kawhi.

https://4protocol.net/athlete-protocol-and-etiquette-training/#athletes

did spurs stop him from going out to get endorsements?....

[TDMVPDPOY]

Kawhitter shows no fun memories of Spurs, faced shifted fast to almost like contempt when Spurs was mentioned. Sorry I don’t really wish this ingrate well, punkass

maybe he wasnt prepared to answer anything spurs related, remember this clown is not ready for the camera, yet all of sudden his team wants him to be positive in front of the camera to market himself...good luck with that shit...

hence has he gotten any new deals ever since trade? jackshit...

[bklynspursfan]

did spurs stop him from going out to get endorsements?....

of course not

[koriwhat]

fuck kawhi!

[gambit1990]

would be pretty cool if the raptors beat the warriors in the finals.

[DPG21920]

Kawhi is a douche. All about Kawhi. Tom, someone Kawhi knows was treated cold as hell with an obvious question. Look at Danny, with a “hi Tom”. Danny doesnt think hes better than anyone, Kawhi does.

[KDKSpurs24]

Kawhi is a douche. All about Kawhi. Tom, someone Kawhi knows was treated cold as hell with an obvious question. Look at Danny, with a “hi Tom”. Danny doesnt think hes better than anyone, Kawhi does.
Danny was ready to defend him if any sort of Spurs related question was asked. But he was so ready to do that, that he chose a question that wasn’t even that bad to do so. Tom seemed to try his best not to word it in a bad way.

[kjhip1]

Loved that Tom asked that question. Kawhi's demeanor quickly changed...I found his answers referencing staying in Toronto to be very informative. Hes out of there after this season, as I really believe is mind is made up. He made a comment about being good in what ever jersey he's in. Big contrast between Danny answering questions as they were asked and Kawhi seeming like he didnt remember what was just asked of him.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I'm at work so can't watch the video but what did Kawhi say about SA?

[kjhip1]

I'm at work so can't watch the video but what did Kawhi say about SA?

Not so much, he was directly asked about how everything went down and his feelings about the whole situation. He said he had no regrets about what happened and didnt want to focus on past or future just the present.