***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[spursparker9]

Shades of 2014.

Wing Stop brothers preventing 3 peats

[TimDunkem]

I could have sworn you were one of the main people shitting on Green all the time.

I was consistently disappointed with his inability to improve other areas of his game, but you don't make that trade. :lol

[timvp]

This championship is more impressive than anything Kobe did. It might be more impressive than anything Jordan did, tbh.

The Bulls without Jordan could still make the ECF. Kobe was paired with the best big in the league.

Kawhi is carrying Canada to a championship. Wow.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol enrique fans
lol lma wankers
lol popabitch
lol patfo

kawhi taking a duece on them has beens

[K...]

Lock the thread and do a kawhi mini forum

[slick'81]

This championship is more impressive than anything Kobe did. It might be more impressive than anything Jordan did, tbh.

The Bulls without Jordan could still make the ECF. Kobe was paired with the best big in the league.

Kawhi is carrying Canada to a championship. Wow.


we all knew how good he is

[timtonymanu]

Faggots asking to lock the thread can just GTFO tbh.

[NASpurs]

This championship is more impressive than anything Kobe did. It might be more impressive than anything Jordan did, tbh.

The Bulls without Jordan could still make the ECF. Kobe was paired with the best big in the league.

Kawhi is carrying Canada to a championship. Wow.

On one leg too.

[Uriel]

What’s sad about watching Kawhi carry Toronto to a championship is that it should’ve been San Antonio.

[TimDunkem]

On one leg too.

But, but, but, financial flexibility even though PATFO gave Mills and Gasol 100 mill! Don't give him the supermax!

[timvp]

WLWWW

Just like 2014.

[K...]

so good

[TimDunkem]

we all knew how good he is offset formation said he wouldn't even get past Giannis.

[NASpurs]

Fat Lowry :wow

[TheGoatishere]

Kingslayer:wow

[weebo]

Siakim is good.

[timtonymanu]

From Wing Stop to Mills/Forbes :lmao :lmao

Murray/White is this team's best shot at being competent there again

[Uriel]

Would’ve rather had Leonard on one leg for one year than DeRozan for three.

[timvp]

Kawhi shutting this ish down :lmao




:depressed

[NASpurs]

Kawhi about to shut down Oracle Arena for good

[K...]

What’s sad about watching Kawhi carry Toronto to a championship is that it should’ve been San Antonio.

eh, no. The spurs would have hated paying the super max. The spurs needed a break from the big 3. The spurs had 3 chances after 2014.

Toronto has lost plenty of players in free agency and has the same problems SA has. They have a GM equal to RC and do player development well. Their city is bigger and better. Expansion team > ABA team

[DPG21920]

It was so obvious that this was over.

[SupremeGuy]

How the fuck did we ruin this shit? Un-fucking-believable. Fucking tony parker with his stupid comments. Fuck

[timtonymanu]

Kawhi still owns the Warriors. That's why I always felt the Spurs had a shot against them with him, but oh well. 20/6/6 will get us there I suppose.

[timvp]

Leonard just earned an entire supermax contract in this one series, tbh. He can do nothing the next five years and he would have been worth it.

[DPG21920]

This championship is more impressive than anything Kobe did. It might be more impressive than anything Jordan did, tbh.

The Bulls without Jordan could still make the ECF. Kobe was paired with the best big in the league.

Kawhi is carrying Canada to a championship. Wow.

After it’s all said and done now how poorly does this reflect on SA?

[TimDunkem]

How the fuck did we ruin this shit? Un-fucking-believable. Fucking tony parker with his stupid comments. Fuck

Then he bolts the very next season. :lmao

[Play Boban]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/Enrique_-_Hero.jpg

[K...]

they are an mentally weak all time great team, the draymond suspension, blowing the 3-1 lead, needing durant. Fuck GSW

[DPG21920]

Leonard just earned an entire supermax contract in this one series, tbh. He can do nothing the next five years and he would have been worth it.

Damn - taking shots at SA :wow

[UZER]

But but but who you gonna get to replace Pop the GOAT? :cry

:lol Nick Nurse first year head coach.

[Play Boban]

We’re all Toronto fans now.

[weebo]

Kawhi about to shut down Oracle Arena for good

:worthy::claw

[Genovaswitness]

But he was better in 2017!!! :lmao

[K...]

After it’s all said and done now how poorly does this reflect on SA?

no body cares.

[NASpurs]

But they're missing Durant :cry

Those motherfuckers have a starting line up of all stars and the Raps have 2 :lol

[tbdog]

Well, this Leonard show puts the Zaza take out into perspective.

[TimDunkem]

But they're missing Durant :cry

Those motherfuckers have a starting line of all stars and the Raps have the best player in the world :lol

Fixed.

[slick'81]

Well, this Leonard show puts the Zaza take out into perspective.

Hes def the curry killer

[timtonymanu]

But they're missing Durant :cry

Those motherfuckers have a starting line of all stars and the Raps have 2 :lol

Don't even care that it's Kawhi, it's nice seeing the Warriors lose

[timvp]

After it’s all said and done now how poorly does this reflect on SA?

We all knew Neph was this good so the Raptors championship doesn't change much, tbh.

Damage had already been done.

[Play Boban]

Zaza is one of the most important players of his generation tbh. :cry

[K...]

But but but who you gonna get to replace Pop the GOAT? :cry

:lol Nick Nurse first year head coach.

didn't tyron lue also manage this ?

[td4mvp2k]

traded the goat for a bag of ****

[timvp]

"I don't play for fans. I play to win."

What a beast :cry

[Uriel]

Leonard just earned an entire supermax contract in this one series, tbh. He can do nothing the next five years and he would have been worth it.
Then why didn’t we offer it from the start?

[NASpurs]

Don't even care that it's Kawhi, it's nice seeing the Warriors lose

Oh yeah definitely, it's pretty sweet seeing them lose. Same feeling that I used when I watched the Shaq/Kobe Lakers lose.

[Uriel]

We all knew Neph was this good so the Raptors championship doesn't change much, tbh.

Damage had already been done.
If we knew how good he was, why didn’t we do everything possible to keep him from the get go?

[DPG21920]

"I don't play for fans. I play to win."

What a beast :cry

Beast + coward or just beast?

[NASpurs]

And people wonder why we hate DeRozan... :lol it's like going from a Lamborghini and living the good life to a Ford Fiesta.

Sure it's not his fault and mostly PATFO's for putting him in this position but it leaks over to him.

[timvp]

A small part of me is proud of Kawhi for taking down the Warriors. Really small .. but it's there.

[Mugen]

Congrats to Danny and Kawhi tbh, Raptors had things break their way and caught the Warriors at the right time but they are playing great ball.....

Props to Masai as well since he was the only one with the balls to trade for Kawhi (sure it was Demar/Poetl) when losers like Philly and Boston didn't think he was worth garbage like Tatum, Brown, Simmons, etc.....

[BD24]

Congrats to this nigga for his second ring and second fmvp tbh. He has had a remarkable playoffs run

:claw:claw

[K...]

If we knew how good he was, why didn’t we do everything possible to keep him from the get go?

Because the Spurs aren't ready to contend again? I mean fuck these dumb questions.

[BD24]

Congrats to Danny and Kawhi tbh, Raptors had things break their way and caught the Warriors at the right time but they are playing great ball.....

Props to Masai as well since he was the only one with the balls to trade for Kawhi (sure it was Demar/Poetl) when losers like Philly and Boston didn't think he was worth garbage like Tatum, Brown, Simmons, etc.....
Right. How stupid do philly and Boston gotta be feeling watching this unfold

[Mugen]

I really hope some heads at the medical staff are rolling after this season :lol

Sure it might be degenerative (looks pretty good to me) but a title this year would have been worth the supermax easily, hope he stays in Toronto tbh....

[timvp]

Congrats to Danny and Kawhi tbh, Raptors had things break their way and caught the Warriors at the right time but they are playing great ball.....

Props to Masai as well since he was the only one with the balls to trade for Kawhi (sure it was Demar/Poetl) when losers like Philly and Boston didn't think he was worth garbage like Tatum, Brown, Simmons, etc.....

Well said, tbh.

:lmao @ Rozier, Fultz, Brown, Saric, Kuzma, etc being taken off the table.

Sure, Spurs looks stupid but I'd argue the teams who had a chance to trade for Neph and didn't look even dumber. There was an All-Time great for the taking yet stupid teams were hesitant to part with Terry Roziers of the world :lol

[RD2191]

:wakeup

[NASpurs]

I really hope some heads at the medical staff are rolling after this season :lol

Sure it might be degenerative (looks pretty good to me) but a title this year would have been worth the supermax easily, hope he stays in Toronto tbh....

Especially for a franchise that's in "win-now" mode. Should had given him the super max.

[DPG21920]

Congrats to TOR. All other GMs, despite Kawhi tanking value should be fired. This is a results league and not brining legit offers for Kawhi is a fireable offense.

What a perfectly built Team too. No weaknesses 1-8. Spurs have so much work to do and can learn from the shrewd moves tor made. Loyalty goes only so far and it only costs so much.

How about Lowry. Ironic how he shed all the labels (fat, choker) and that SA didn’t want him..only to get paired with Kawhi and be the 2nd best player on a title team

[apalisoc_9]

Hurts tbh.

At least hes not in Lakers

I wouldnt be able to stomach cheering for Kawhi if it was the lakers.

[K...]

I really hope some heads at the medical staff are rolling after this season :lol

Sure it might be degenerative (looks pretty good to me) but a title this year would have been worth the supermax easily, hope he stays in Toronto tbh....

See it's great that you say that, but deep down you know that the Spurs just want to sell season tickets.

[r0drig0lac]

Leonard just earned an entire supermax contract in this one series, tbh. He can do nothing the next five years and he would have been worth it.

exactly, and that's why when you have the best player in the world you offer the supermax and then solve the problems, not the other way around.

[timtonymanu]

And people wonder why we hate DeRozan... :lol it's like going from a Lamborghini and living the good life to a Ford Fiesta.

Sure it's not his fault and mostly PATFO's for putting him in this position but it leaks over to him.

Yep totally was worth keeping him even if he sat out the entire year, it's not like the team did shit with Derozan in his place. And when he bailed, would have been better to start fresh with Murray/White/Walker, but now they gotta pay Derozan 27 million for 2 more years so we can continue losing in the first round but we need to keep the :cry culture up instead.

[SPURt]

Kawhi broke up the super friends in Miami and he’s about to do the same to the Warriors. Crazy.

[lefty]

Hello

[Mugen]

After it’s all said and done now how poorly does this reflect on SA?

Obviously, very bad. No spinning that. Letting a generational talent like Kawhi walk (and getting a terrible return) is just terrible tbh.

At the end of the day, they drank their own kool-aid and didn't realize it was the players that got them those rings, not Pop, not RC....but Timmy, Manu, TP......

They chose "culture" over championships and they should have to live with their choice tbh.....

[Chris]

Dude uses Pop's bootcamp to win a ring with another franchise. Feels bad man.

[Killakobe81]

Well said, tbh.

:lmao @ Rozier, Fultz, Brown, Saric, Kuzma, etc being taken off the table.

Sure, Spurs looks stupid but I'd argue the teams who had a chance to trade for Neph and didn't look even dumber. There was an All-Time great for the taking yet stupid teams were hesitant to part with Terry Roziers of the world :lol

Nicca yall didn't wanna trade with is so just stop preet sure Kuzma would have been dealt yall didn't want our young guys and I don't blame PATFO for it dumb to settle for that Raptors deal tho

[gambit1990]

raps got a player making nba history, spurs got a player whose bb iq is as sharp as a marble.

[lefty]

Fuck Porker fuck that french piece of shit

[TimDunkem]

See it's great that you say that, but deep down you know that the Spurs just want to sell season tickets.

Clearly. They chose to pinch pennies and hand the reigns to Fatty Mills "cuz culture" rather than just give the best player in the world what he wanted. :lmao

[look_at_g_shred]

Kawhi broke up the super friends in Miami and he’s about to do the same to the Warriors. Crazy.
Most of that credit goes to Manu - Tim tbh

[NASpurs]

Congrats to TOR. All other GMs, despite Kawhi tanking value should be fired. This is a results league and not brining legit offers for Kawhi is a fireable offense.

What a perfectly built Team too. No weaknesses 1-8. Spurs have so much work to do and can learn from the shrewd moves tor made. Loyalty goes only so far and it only costs so much.

How about Lowry. Ironic how he shed all the labels (fat, choker) and that SA didn’t want him..only to get paired with Kawhi and be the 2nd best player on a title team

It's like this franchise is ran by a group of friends afraid of hurting peoples feelings. We need cold calculated moves made someone with balls around here.

[timvp]

Nicca yall didn't wanna trade with is so just stop preet sure Kuzma would have been dealt yall didn't want our young guys and I don't blame PATFO for it dumb to settle for that Raptors deal tho

True, Raptors deal was better than the Lakers trash, tbh.

[Chris]

Fuck Porker fuck that french piece of shit

It was a team meeting.

[NASpurs]

Obviously, very bad. No spinning that. Letting a generational talent like Kawhi walk (and getting a terrible return) is just terrible tbh.

At the end of the day, they drank their own kool-aid and didn't realize it was the players that got them those rings, not Pop, not RC....but Timmy, Manu, TP......

They chose "culture" over championships and they should have to live with their choice tbh.....

It's no coincidence this franchise seems to have gone full-retard once Duncan retired.

[SPURt]

Most of that credit goes to Manu - Tim tbh
Wasn’t Kawhi the finals MVP that year?

[Mugen]

If, at any point, the Spurs decided they didn't want to offer the supermax because of advice from the medical team...all blame should be off Kawhi tbh....

Sure, he handled it in the faggiest way possible but there's about 2-3 players in the league worth the supermax no matter what and if the Spurs/medical staff were to stupid to see that then props to Kawhi and his group for proving how stupid they were tbh.....

Doesn't matter if he sits 70 games during the regular season, what you're seeing from him this postseason run is worth it, easy.

[TimDunkem]

It's like this franchise is ran by a group of friends afraid of hurting peoples feelings. We need cold calculated moves made someone with balls around here.

Sad thing is they were that team before (jettisoned Jack, Finley, told guys like Monty Williams and Avery that they were too fucking old.

Now they're giving out loyalty deals to bench warmers and throwing away generational talent to preserve culture. Sad.

[Mugen]

It's no coincidence this franchise seems to have gone full-retard once Duncan retired.

Def. He was the alpha and leader of the organization. Pop/RC thought it was them once Timmy retired and I don't blame them after they go to the WCF with Kawhi/Aldridge...but they should have realized it was Kawhi, not them.

Instead, they give out thank you contracts to Patty and Pau and ask Kawhi to take a paycut...

[r0drig0lac]

But but but who you gonna get to replace Pop the GOAT? :cry

:lol Nick Nurse first year head coach.

the league is and always will be for the players, so even Pop, who is clearly the best coach in history (especially for players), will never have the impact that Duncan, Kawhi, D-Rob and other superstars have had.

[K...]

Kawhi could have easily taken the supermax in SA all he had to do was ask for it nicely. He did something else (hiding from POP leaking to the media), who knows.

[cjw]

Where does this put him on the pantheon of small forwards if he pulls off one win in the next three games?


Lebron (isn’t really a SF, but Duncan’s not really a PF) and Bird are 1-2
Then it’s Pippen and Durant
But then? Dr. J? Baylor? Worthy?
Definitely ahead of Pierce, Rick Barry, etc.


I’d have to put him in that second tier

[timtonymanu]

Obviously, very bad. No spinning that. Letting a generational talent like Kawhi walk (and getting a terrible return) is just terrible tbh.

At the end of the day, they drank their own kool-aid and didn't realize it was the players that got them those rings, not Pop, not RC....but Timmy, Manu, TP......

They chose "culture" over championships and they should have to live with their choice tbh.....

:tu

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

Kawhi called Lowry his quarterback. I wonder what he would have called Tony. :rollin

[K...]

Sad thing is they were that team before (jettisoned Jack, Finley, told guys like Monty Williams and Avery that they were too fucking old.

Now they're giving out loyalty deals to bench warmers and throwing away generational talent to preserve culture. Sad.

they killed rasual butler for the sport!

[timvp]

Where does this put him on the pantheon of small forwards if he pulls off one win in the next three games?


Lebron (isn’t really a SF, but Duncan’s not really a PF) and Bird are 1-2
Then it’s Pippen and Durant
But then? Dr. J? Baylor? Worthy?
Definitely ahead of Pierce, Rick Barry, etc.


I’d have to put him in that second tier

Only behind LeBron.

This one season >>>>>>>>> Bird's entire career, tbh.

[RD2191]

Kawhi called Lowry his quarterback. I wonder what he would have called Tony. :rollin

His knifeinback

[SpurPadre]

If, at any point, the Spurs decided they didn't want to offer the supermax because of advice from the medical team...all blame should be off Kawhi tbh....

Sure, he handled it in the faggiest way possible but there's about 2-3 players in the league worth the supermax no matter what and if the Spurs/medical staff were to stupid to see that then props to Kawhi and his group for proving how stupid they were tbh.....

Doesn't matter if he sits 70 games during the regular season, what you're seeing from him this postseason run is worth it, easy.

I hate Load Management but we wouldn't have made the Finals this year with him because we don't have Toronto's depth especially without a healthy Murray. And we would've lost most of his load managed games too.

[NASpurs]

Sad thing is they were that team before (jettisoned Jack, Finley, told guys like Monty Williams and Avery that they were too fucking old.

Now they're giving out loyalty deals to bench warmers and throwing away generational talent to preserve culture. Sad.

And they'll probably extend 20/6/6 to a $30+ mil/yr contract.

[look_at_g_shred]

Man, too many people in their feelings :lol get over it. He’s gone. Time to move on and get ready for next season. If you can’t get over it, maybe you should follow a different team. Or you want to continue bitching about a team your going to continue following anyway? Whatever works for you I guess.

[urunobili]

Kawhi broke up the super friends in Miami and he’s about to do the same to the Warriors. Crazy.

[Murray2k]

This just makes me more convinced we had a legit chance in 17 if Kawhi wasn't taken out.. Aldridge was killing them too when the attention was on Kawhi. Oh well, no point in dwelling on that.

Kawhi is a monster, best player in the league, he's having a goat playoff run, just unbelievable.

[Mugen]

I hate Load Management but we wouldn't have made the Finals this year with him because we don't have Toronto's depth especially without a healthy Murray. And we would've lost most of his load managed games too.

I mean, sure Pop and Patty and the crew would probably fuck it up.....but Kawhi on the team instead of Derozan/Poetl and the Dubs with all their current injurie... and the Spurs are probably in the Finals with no East team able to stop them....

[Mugen]

Man, too many people in their feelings :lol get over it. He’s gone. Time to move on and get ready for next season. If you can’t get over it, maybe you should follow a different team. Or you want to continue bitching about a team your going to continue following anyway? Whatever works for you I guess.

You're posting in the Kawhi thread, dummy.

[cjw]

Man, too many people in their feelings :lol get over it. He’s gone. Time to move on and get ready for next season. If you can’t get over it, maybe you should follow a different team. Or you want to continue bitching about a team your going to continue following anyway? Whatever works for you I guess.

Exactly, just enjoy him ending the Warriors. Bittersweet, but some payback for Zaza.

[Genovaswitness]

Where does this put him on the pantheon of small forwards if he pulls off one win in the next three games?


Lebron (isn’t really a SF, but Duncan’s not really a PF) and Bird are 1-2
Then it’s Pippen and Durant
But then? Dr. J? Baylor? Worthy?
Definitely ahead of Pierce, Rick Barry, etc.


I’d have to put him in that second tier

kawhi is already better than lebron all time

[Nathan89]

This is what happens when you win a trade so overwhelmingly. Just like Pau to the Lakers or KG to the Celtics.

[timtonymanu]

I hate Load Management but we wouldn't have made the Finals this year with him because we don't have Toronto's depth especially without a healthy Murray. And we would've lost most of his load managed games too.

White/Green/Kawhi/Gay/LMA would have been fine enough for a 2nd seed in the West and considering how weak the entire West was this year, we would have been a conference finals threat. This current roster was always a first round exit.

[Mugen]

​@timvp - I know you don't want to discuss all the Spurs/Kawhi drama that you are privy to....but you gotta give us something, especially since Nephew is about to ring :lol

It's just basketball tbh....

At least confirm that the Spurs asked him to take less than the supermax tbh...

[UZER]

Man, too many people in their feelings :lol get over it. He’s gone. Time to move on and get ready for next season. If you can’t get over it, maybe you should follow a different team. Or you want to continue bitching about a team your going to continue following anyway? Whatever works for you I guess.

At this point, it’s not really about Kawhi, it’s more about PATFO fuck up being magnified by trading him away and he’s about to ring.

I’ve said before, both sides to blame, but ultimately PATFO are the ones that couldn’t keep a top 3 player in the league. His departure happened on their watch.

[Genovaswitness]

At this point, it’s not really about Kawhi, it’s more about PATFO fuck up being magnified by trading him away and he’s about to ring.

I’ve said before, both sides to blame, but ultimately PATFO are the ones that couldn’t keep a top 3 player in the league. His departure happened on their watch.

this tbh

[Nathan89]

Kawhi has had a more impressive career than KD. Any star can win on GSW. Kawhi is able to carry a team. He has the strength to handle the work load which allows him to keep hitting 3s in the playoffs. KD is a weak player and his 3pt shot disappears in the playoffs when he has a true superstar role.

[Harry Callahan]

Nephew and his "group" put a gun to the Spurs heads and tanked his trade value by design - purposely damaged the franchise that made him. This season does not change that. Still a sh*tty semi-human being. Like most star NBA players, #2 the douche bag is just a myopic jerk. He didn't give a damn about the fan base in SA and he doesn't give a damn about the Toronto fan base.

Turd better get as much money for as long as possible now - he will be missing 20-25 games a year for the next four or five years with his chronic quad issues. That doesn't change. The Spurs allegedly STILL offered the MAX contract, but the guy was through with SA, his teammates, management, everyone. What goes around comes around - sooner or later.

I'm pissed for sure about this crappy result. This was a choice made by Leonard, not the Spurs. The bridge was burned by him. He quit. He's playing now because he has to in order to get the boxcar contract.

[Mugen]

Kawhi is having a great postseason (his run through the East is better than anything LeBron has ever done IMO) but this series is 3-1 Warriors if Klay/KD are healthy even if the Dubs are on their last legs.....

Still, not gonna lie that it's pretty satisfying to see the GS get their shit pushed in....

[SpurPadre]

White/Green/Kawhi/Gay/LMA would have been fine enough for a 2nd seed in the West and considering how weak the entire West was this year, we would have been a conference finals threat. This current roster was always a first round exit.

Load missed a third of the season though. We wouldn't have held the fort like Toronto did in those games so I'm not so sure about 2nd seed.

[look_at_g_shred]

You're posting in the Kawhi thread, dummy.
Who are you again?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Does anybody remember hearing that uncle Dennis wanted a front office position with the spurs or something? Can anyone confirm this?

[Dverde]

The Warriors are a mess, not a clean win. Could be one of the worst teams to win a championship. It is a little rewarding to see quitter destroy the team that stood behind goony Zaza. He will be the MVP that ended the last two championship dynasties. I was completely over the saga just didn’t want Nephew to win this year on the Spurs contract. Shit happens.

[Harry Callahan]

Kawhi has had a more impressive career than KD. Any star can win on GSW. Kawhi is able to carry a team. He has the strength to handle the work load which allows him to keep hitting 3s in the playoffs. KD is a weak player and his 3pt shot disappears in the playoffs when he has a true superstar role.

What happened from 2015-2018 in the playoffs then? The East was not that good (no prime LBJ) and the Warriors fell apart when Durant broke and Thompson got injured. Everything broke right for Toronto this year. Literally everything.

[anon]

Toronto will ride Kawhi's knees to the chip until his knees fall off just as SA rode TD until his wheels fell off. Kawhi really is Tim Duncan's rightful heir. And this franchise let him slip through the cracks. Ownership and PATFO, they don't want any more rings. Time to face that reality.

[lefty]

It was a team meeting.

Then fuck that team

[Mugen]

Nephew and his "group" put a gun to the Spurs heads and tanked his trade value by design - purposely damaged the franchise that made him. This season does not change that. Still a sh*tty semi-human being. Like most star NBA players, #2 the douche bag is just a myopic jerk. He didn't give a damn about the fan base in SA and he doesn't give a damn about the Toronto fan base.

Turd better get as much money for as long as possible now - he will be missing 20-25 games a year for the next four or five years with his chronic quad issues. That doesn't change. The Spurs allegedly STILL offered the MAX contract, but the guy was through with SA, his teammates, management, everyone. What goes around comes around - sooner or later.

I'm pissed for sure about this crappy result. This was a choice made by Leonard, not the Spurs. The bridge was burned by him. He quit. He's playing now because he has to in order to get the boxcar contract.

I get it. No defending how Kawhi and the group handled it all....but....I'm not blaming Kawhi if the following happened:

-They asked him to take a discount after giving Pau and Patty those contracts. Kawhi rejecting the supermax later on actually makes me respect him more....
-The Spurs didn't believe that he couldn't play. If he says he can't and even if his group keeps flip/flopping on his return, you bend over backwards for him because he's that good....
-Literally zero star NBA players give a fuck about the fans. Tim Duncan wouldn't stop to pee on you if you were on fire tbh......don't be so naive and hold that against Leonard. Do you think Toronto fans care right now that Kawhi doesn't give that much of a fuck about them?
-If he misses 20 games a year for the next 5 years and takes them on deep playoff runs, who really cares......

Again, I get it. Kawhi is most likely a shit person with shit family that grew up in a shitty culture...but this is mostly on the Spurs tbh......

[lefty]

His knifeinback

:lol

[Big Empty]

Kawhi wins a title in Toronto, signs a two year contract with a player option the 2nd year. Lakers and Clippers max out free agents this summer. Kawhi has to stay in Toronto or has a chance to re-sign with the Spurs since all the LA teams are capped out. Thats my prediction.

[Nathan89]

What happened from 2015-2018 in the playoffs then? The East was not that good (no prime LBJ) and the Warriors fell apart when Durant broke and Thompson got injured. Everything broke right for Toronto this year. Literally everything.

KD playing an easy role is what happened. If he had Kawhi's role his 3pt shot would tank again. Just like it did on a really good okc team.

Yeah, everything(kawhi being healthier would be nice) is going right for Toronto to win. They were still not the favorites going into this series. Klay missed one game and tonight seemingly wasn't hindered because he played phenomenal.

[UZER]

Nephew and his "group" put a gun to the Spurs heads and tanked his trade value by design - purposely damaged the franchise that made him. This season does not change that. Still a sh*tty semi-human being. Like most star NBA players, #2 the douche bag is just a myopic jerk. He didn't give a damn about the fan base in SA and he doesn't give a damn about the Toronto fan base.

Turd better get as much money for as long as possible now - he will be missing 20-25 games a year for the next four or five years with his chronic quad issues. That doesn't change. The Spurs allegedly STILL offered the MAX contract, but the guy was through with SA, his teammates, management, everyone. What goes around comes around - sooner or later.

I'm pissed for sure about this crappy result. This was a choice made by Leonard, not the Spurs. The bridge was burned by him. He quit. He's playing now because he has to in order to get the boxcar contract.

Most aren’t excusing Kawhi’s behavior. More about what went so wrong that lead him to the behavior.

It’s pretty clear, Kawhi just wants to win, bad.

Pop has already won, and at this point just wants his wine and culture signings. If they don’t win, it’s meh to him. He’s said it over and over, “it’s just basketball”.

[BatManu20]

Kawhi wins a title in Toronto, signs a two year contract with a player option the 2nd year. Lakers and Clippers max out free agents this summer. Kawhi has to stay in Toronto or has a chance to re-sign with the Spurs since all the LA teams are capped out. Thats my prediction.


Lol Kawhi will never be a Spur again. Ever.

[Harry Callahan]

I get it. No defending how Kawhi and the group handled it all....but....I'm not blaming Kawhi if the following happened:

-They asked him to take a discount after giving Pau and Patty those contracts. Kawhi rejecting the supermax later on actually makes me respect him more....
-The Spurs didn't believe that he couldn't play. If he says he can't and even if his group keeps flip/flopping on his return, you bend over backwards for him because he's that good....
-Literally zero star NBA players give a fuck about the fans. Tim Duncan wouldn't stop to pee on you if you were on fire tbh......don't be so naive and hold that against Leonard. Do you think Toronto fans care right now that Kawhi doesn't give that much of a fuck about them?
-If he misses 20 games a year for the next 5 years and takes them on deep playoff runs, who really cares......

Again, I get it. Kawhi is most likely a shit person with shit family that grew up in a shitty culture...but this is mostly on the Spurs tbh......

BBBut #2 was boxed in with San Antonio. He supposedly was offered the Max and refused it? How is that taking a discount? He signed a MAX contract in 2015 and did not fulfill it by his "Medical" holdout last year. If I was a part of the Spurs board of governors, I would be VERY uncomfortable offering a Supermax contract to a person who essentially spit in my face for a year. That is what he did. No sugarcoating that.

He and his uncle made him as toxic as possible to force his way out. That was HIS decision. Sometimes good things happen to bad people in this world. This is an example. Quite frankly, either result in the finals this year would have been the same situation - rotten people having worldly success.

[testies]

i might not watch basketball ever again

thanks PATFO, well what do they care they are probably in tuscany rolling around the hills drinking wine with their millions of dollars and I am here suffering to pay rent

[loveforthegame]

:lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/ekoreen/status/1137212142354960384

[HarlemHeat37]

Damn, when was the last time the real Finals was in the East? The 80s?:lol

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/1137203355267358720

https://mobile.twitter.com/nbastats/status/1137211226440785920

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/1137192854030303237

[HarlemHeat37]

Do you guys want live videos of the celebration on Monday?:lol

[r0drig0lac]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/1137203355267358720

https://mobile.twitter.com/nbastats/status/1137211226440785920

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/1137192854030303237

https://media.tenor.com/images/eab0c2aadbcff0493e3f4f2950a7a72a/tenor.gif

[NASpurs]

Do you guys want live videos of the celebration on Monday?:lol

:lmao I'm already there in spirit bro

[JeffDuncan]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/1137203355267358720

https://mobile.twitter.com/nbastats/status/1137211226440785920

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/1137192854030303237

Oh, that's just a bunch of empty stats.

:cry

[superbigtime]

This is so crazy. And hard to accept. Stuck w derozan. Kawhi an alltime great. Nice to see mouthpiece gnawing sharpshooter Steph lose. But seriously fuck you pop.

[HarlemHeat37]

Raptors' defense is especially impressive since all their best defenders are physically past their defensive prime other than Siakam:lol

[Mugen]

Tough time for Spurfan obviously but it helps that I got Kawhi at 9 to 1 for Finals MVP like 2 weeks ago :lol

[Harry Callahan]

The Warriors have been god awful and totally compromised by injury. Let's be honest, the Warriors are currently playing like a bunch of washed up YMCA losers. A pathetic showing.

Funny how teams can lose when your best player is out.

[spursparker9]

What’s sad about watching Kawhi carry Toronto to a championship is that it should’ve been San Antonio.

To be honest, the rest of Raptor team > the rest of Spurs team (with Nephew in it)

Let Nephew be the number 1 option and LMA will sulk and disrupt the team chemistry.

Meanwhile, the whole of Raptor team is acknowledging and supporting that Nephew is their leader, superstar, No. 1 option.

[99 Problems]

:clawTwas it ever in doubt?

[Harry Callahan]

As a life long Spurs fan - this season has been a crap sandwich - no getting around that.

I'll be patient - I'm cursed with a long (and vindictive) memory. I will enjoy #2's downfall whenever it occurs.

His body has apparently held up long enough this year. Was he actually injured or just in chronic pain. Everyone seems to be afraid to talk about the truth as it relates to his knees and quads. Time will tell the story.

[Murray2k]

Patfo should get a ring too, they made this happen tbh.

[gambit1990]

can't remember the last player who was traded and then took their team all the way on their first year.

[tbdog]

Leonard was even better in 2017 playoffs. Zaza happened. And we can see how good Leonard is. He should have won MVP over Westbrook and Harden in 2017. It really hurts that we lost him the way we did. Also, Curry just doesn't perform on the final stage.

[Harry Callahan]

can't remember the last player who was traded and then took their team all the way on their first year.

Moses Malone. Traded from Rockets to 76ers in 1982.

[bic50]

The Warriors are a mess, not a clean win. Could be one of the worst teams to win a championship. It is a little rewarding to see quitter destroy the team that stood behind goony Zaza. He will be the MVP that ended the last two championship dynasties. I was completely over the saga just didn’t want Nephew to win this year on the Spurs contract. Shit happens.
How are they one of the worst teams to win the championship? I think you and many others just underestimated them

[bic50]

What happened from 2015-2018 in the playoffs then? The East was not that good (no prime LBJ) and the Warriors fell apart when Durant broke and Thompson got injured. Everything broke right for Toronto this year. Literally everything.
Not really. Warriors were still favorites even with kd out. Bucks were the favorites also and I don’t think they had any injuries and were just beaten by the raptors. I expected the bucks vs warriors in the finals. I underestimated them

[gambit1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i0rU27PJRU

[SpurPadre]

How are they one of the worst teams to win the championship? I think you and many others just underestimated them

The Sixers took them 7 games. Nuff said.

[bic50]

The Sixers took them 7 games. Nuff said.
Exactly. And look what they did to the bucks the next series. Didn’t see that coming at all. they’re just a really good team

[HarlemHeat37]

Hopefully Kawhi doesn't go to LA..if he doesn't, the Spurs should be able to build a West contender quickly, nobody else is any good in the conference and the Warriors don't have much room to breathe if Durant leaves..

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Hopefully Kawhi doesn't go to LA..if he doesn't, the Spurs should be able to build a West contender quickly, nobody else is any good in the conference and the Warriors don't have much room to breathe if Durant leaves..

But they still need a #1 option that you can trust. Aldridge and DeMar are #3 options on a finals
Bound team at best.

[Genovaswitness]

The Sixers took them 7 games. Nuff said.

8 seed mavs took the 2014 spurs to 7 games

[HarlemHeat37]

8 seed mavs took the 2014 spurs to 7 games

The 2008 Celtics were taken to 7 by the Hawks

The 2009 Lakers were taken to 7 by a team led by Aaron Brooks:lol

[apalisoc_9]

Hopefully Kawhi doesn't go to LA..if he doesn't, the Spurs should be able to build a West contender quickly, nobody else is any good in the conference and the Warriors don't have much room to breathe if Durant leaves..

Lol why wouldnt he go to LA?

The confrence power has shifted.

If I'm Kawhi, if servant goes EAST. I'm signing for Clippers. If the Lakers trade Bron. Im sigining there.

East is a tough cookie now with Boston, Philly, MIL and whatever team durant goes to.

West is weak.

[dbreiden83080]

The Sixers took them 7 games. Nuff said.

So??

[dbreiden83080]

Lol why wouldnt he go to LA?

The confrence power has shifted.

If I'm Kawhi, if servant goes EAST. I'm signing for Clippers. If the Lakers trade Bron. Im sigining there.

East is a tough cookie now with Boston, Philly, MIL and whatever team durant goes to.

West is weak.

He’s not going to play with LeBron. And the clippers are a bunch of fucking losers. They have always been losers. They will always be losers. Nobody gives a shit about the clippers. He has a tremendous situation in Toronto. Leaving would be a really dumb move. A really really really really dumb move.

[HarlemHeat37]

Lol why wouldnt he go to LA?

The confrence power has shifted.

If I'm Kawhi, if servant goes EAST. I'm signing for Clippers. If the Lakers trade Bron. Im sigining there.

East is a tough cookie now with Boston, Philly, MIL and whatever team durant goes to.

West is weak.

On second thought, now that the Warriors are going to lose without him, why would Durant leave? He doesn't really need any clout anymore since they lost without him, might as well stay where he's comfortable..

[Texas_Ranger]

The Raptore are good, but a healthy Warriors team is winning in 5.

[TheGreatYacht]

https://twitter.com/NBASwissCheeseD/status/1133007305220513792


Poop instructing Kerr how to lose to a rookie coach :wow
:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Remember when faggots made this a 200+ page thread because he wouldn't play against the Suns and Hawks of the league in the regular season :lol

[testies]

Pop "Not everything is lost. We still can lose the FIBA WC"

[anon]

Hopefully Kawhi doesn't go to LA..if he doesn't, the Spurs should be able to build a West contender quickly, nobody else is any good in the conference and the Warriors don't have much room to breathe if Durant leaves.. Udoka just abandoned this franchise for a team with a 22 year old and a 25 year old as their franchise cornerstones. Let's be conservative and say Embiid's medical history will stunt his peak to 30 years old, giving the Sixers a 5-year title window. That's what Udoka chose over the Spurs' prospects. He does not think Derrick White in 5 years of development will be where Simmons/Embiid will be. The Spurs are far too superior to enter the lottery, the international talent pool is no longer an exclusive Spurs secret with Masai Ujiri building a talent pipeline to Africa--a next level development to what the Spurs pioneered in Europe and Latin America, and finally the asking price for franchise-level talent on the free market is too steep and prohibitive for ownership. Udoka even bailed on the only recognizable FA the Spurs succeeded on attracting, who he himself recruited. So where does that leave the franchise in terms of lucking into a generational talent like Duncan and Leonard needed to take a team all the way?

[loveforthegame]

Fucking savage to include DDR like that. :lmao

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bybx2clDyyt/

[timvp]

Fucking savage to include DDR like that. :lmao

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bybx2clDyyt/

Damn :lol

[BillMc]

All this time, we've been hoping to catch the Dubs at less than full strength -- and Nephew is the one to do it. :hang

[bagtec]

Imagine trading the best player in the world for demar deroxan

[therealtruth]

board man gets paid.

[spurs10]

All this time, we've been hoping to catch the Dubs at less than full strength -- and Nephew is the one to do it. :hang Yep and on our dime. I'll try to be happy for TO's fan-base. They have a lot to thank us for like the $20 million rehab of their star.

[BillMc]

Yep and on our dime. I'll try to be happy for TO's fan-base. They have a lot to thank us for like the $20 million rehab of their star.

Truth, bro. The sad truth.

[J_Paco]

:lmao At placing a premium on ppg (with no context) in '19 and thinking either of those championships were credible. They're in the same boat as '15 and the one the Raptors (via the Spurs) are about to "win".

I know you are the all knowing basketball God of ST, but winning three straight scoring titles & four overall needs no context.

And whether you find the titles as "viable" is insignificant.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Kawhi broke up the super friends in Miami and he’s about to do the same to the Warriors. Crazy.

And the Spurs lol

[Legacy]

Would’ve rather had Leonard on one leg for one year than DeRozan for three.

:lmao

[lefty]

I wonder if Pop is punching air or DeRozan

[BillMc]

Would’ve rather had Leonard on one leg for one year than DeRozan for three.

Not if he refuses to take the court.

[smaka]

I just came here to say this: fuck Kawhi.

[Perry Mason]

I have a friend close to the Popovich family. One thread that has been mentioned but which may not get enough emphasis is how Kawhi’s handlers came to realize just how big Kawhi can be (China trip, etc).

Yes, Uncle and co. were rank amateurs, so they began requesting all manner of nonsense. But the Spurs were unprepared. Uncle legitimately saw other franchises, say Houston or LA, had much more infrastructure for promoting their stars and giving them commercial opportunities. They also provided more “star treatment”.

I’m now speculating, but it seems the Spurs were slow to make the connection, and their “culture” in this instance led them to be dismissive. It wasn’t helped by Uncle’s amateurish approach. But a smarter organization may have been more cautious and accommodating, and taken the concerns of Kawhi’s most trusted figure more seriously.

Add the above to the mix of injuries and other personal things (as Timvp has alluded to), and you can break a relationship. Uncle played a long game but I am not convinced he wouldn’t have made a different decision had the org done things differently. I’m still annoyed by Pop’s “no comment, no looking back” speech at the season’s commencement, because it means no accountability. Curious for an org built on it.

Anyway, I’m still rooting for Kawhi and happy to see the Warriors get smashed. At the beginning of the season, I called the Raptors my favorite to win it all; I was laughed at by many! But I remembered 2017.

[Spurs da champs]

https://i.imgur.com/XdICjDo.jpg

:lmao thank Poop.

[r0drig0lac]

I have a friend close to the Popovich family. One thread that has been mentioned but which may not get enough emphasis is how Kawhi’s handlers came to realize just how big Kawhi can be (China trip, etc).

Yes, Uncle and co. were rank amateurs, so they began requesting all manner of nonsense. But the Spurs were unprepared. Uncle legitimately saw other franchises, say Houston or LA, had much more infrastructure for promoting their stars and giving them commercial opportunities. They also provided more “star treatment”.

I’m now speculating, but it seems the Spurs were slow to make the connection, and their “culture” in this instance led them to be dismissive. It wasn’t helped by Uncle’s amateurish approach. But a smarter organization may have been more cautious and accommodating, and taken the concerns of Kawhi’s most trusted figure more seriously.

Add the above to the mix of injuries and other personal things (as Timvp has alluded to), and you can break a relationship. Uncle played a long game but I am not convinced he wouldn’t have made a different decision had the org done things differently. I’m still annoyed by Pop’s “no comment, no looking back” speech at the season’s commencement, because it means no accountability. Curious for an org built on it.

Anyway, I’m still rooting for Kawhi and happy to see the Warriors get smashed. At the beginning of the season, I called the Raptors my favorite to win it all; I was laughed at by many! But I remembered 2017.


if that's true, spurfan it is better to be prepared for eternal mediocrity, guys like Tim Duncan are extremely rare (actually he's the only one of his kind, to this day imbeciles credit their titles to Pop, if he had won 3 in NY he would be a top 3 in history, the normal player wants to win and be revered for it)

[anon]

Did the Portland guests crash the site this bad after the only-:lma osers-foul signing as the canadians just did after last night's game? Bring out your best :spin, boys. There's an entire other country reading your takes. DPG better shore up those servers for when the canucks nuke this site again on :lobt2:Tuesday.

[Canyonero]

One game away from becoming a first ballot HoFer

[spursparker9]

1 more win and Nephew is the 3rd best SF of all time. Only behind Lebron and KD.

[picnroll]

When kwitter wins a title, is named finals MVP AND then moves on to the Clippers anyways next year will Spurs fan realize there was nothing Spurs’ front office could do and kwitter was going to make a bitch move to get to LA no matter what they did?

[John B]

That pnr defense, 3pt closeups, ball movement, trust your team. Geez it’s like watching Spurs

[Millennial_Messiah]

you couldn’t pay me to live in either state tbh

but you'd move for free to california? Enjoy going broke :lol

[InRareForm]

1 more win and Nephew is the 3rd best SF of all time. Only behind Lebron and KD.

I think kawhi has a case to be ahead of KD

[Gamechannel]

Every game the Raps win, I get nightmares..

As a lifelong Spurs fan who calls Toronto home, I absolutely hate to see Kawhi keep winning and the annoying as hell Raps fans gloating about their We the north BS.

Fuck Kawhi. That's all I can say. He went from my favorite player to my most hated after the shit he and Dennis pulled off.

I was so hoping they'd lose, but Karma isn't a bitch after all.

[UZER]

I have a friend close to the Popovich family. One thread that has been mentioned but which may not get enough emphasis is how Kawhi’s handlers came to realize just how big Kawhi can be (China trip, etc).

Yes, Uncle and co. were rank amateurs, so they began requesting all manner of nonsense. But the Spurs were unprepared. Uncle legitimately saw other franchises, say Houston or LA, had much more infrastructure for promoting their stars and giving them commercial opportunities. They also provided more “star treatment”.

I’m now speculating, but it seems the Spurs were slow to make the connection, and their “culture” in this instance led them to be dismissive. It wasn’t helped by Uncle’s amateurish approach. But a smarter organization may have been more cautious and accommodating, and taken the concerns of Kawhi’s most trusted figure more seriously.

Add the above to the mix of injuries and other personal things (as Timvp has alluded to), and you can break a relationship. Uncle played a long game but I am not convinced he wouldn’t have made a different decision had the org done things differently. I’m still annoyed by Pop’s “no comment, no looking back” speech at the season’s commencement, because it means no accountability. Curious for an org built on it.

Anyway, I’m still rooting for Kawhi and happy to see the Warriors get smashed. At the beginning of the season, I called the Raptors my favorite to win it all; I was laughed at by many! But I remembered 2017.

This is a exactly what so many on this board keep alluding to and why so many of us are pissed. We don’t have proof, but have seen the behavior of PATFO for years that matches this theory. The injury mishandling just broke the camels back.

The “culture” signings to the detriment of the team are a real thing. And Pop himself said he would prefer Kawhi to only average between 22-24 points a game. Who fucking does that to their superstar?! Tim and Manu were an anomaly. With all the winning, Pop got drunk on his ability to get them to do whatever he wanted.

He doesn’t care about winning as much anymore as many on this board can see from a mile away. It’s all about “muh culture” these days.

The guy and his ego have just become bigger than the team and nobody has the balls to tell him to straighten the fuck up or retire. He shouldn’t be fired because of his legacy. But he should be strongly urged to retire.

I root for the San Antonio Spurs, not the San Antonio Pops.

[TDomination]

The Warriors have been god awful and totally compromised by injury. Let's be honest, the Warriors are currently playing like a bunch of washed up YMCA losers. A pathetic showing.

Funny how teams can lose when your best player is out.
They were due. Bout time they get injured.

Sucks its against Kawhi though.

[TDomination]

This just makes me more convinced we had a legit chance in 17 if Kawhi wasn't taken out.. Aldridge was killing them too when the attention was on Kawhi. Oh well, no point in dwelling on that.

Kawhi is a monster, best player in the league, he's having a goat playoff run, just unbelievable.
I've said this before too.
Zaza should've gotten NBA Finals MVP that year. He changed the course of history with his foot.

[timtonymanu]

I have a friend close to the Popovich family. One thread that has been mentioned but which may not get enough emphasis is how Kawhi’s handlers came to realize just how big Kawhi can be (China trip, etc).

Yes, Uncle and co. were rank amateurs, so they began requesting all manner of nonsense. But the Spurs were unprepared. Uncle legitimately saw other franchises, say Houston or LA, had much more infrastructure for promoting their stars and giving them commercial opportunities. They also provided more “star treatment”.

I’m now speculating, but it seems the Spurs were slow to make the connection, and their “culture” in this instance led them to be dismissive. It wasn’t helped by Uncle’s amateurish approach. But a smarter organization may have been more cautious and accommodating, and taken the concerns of Kawhi’s most trusted figure more seriously.

Add the above to the mix of injuries and other personal things (as Timvp has alluded to), and you can break a relationship. Uncle played a long game but I am not convinced he wouldn’t have made a different decision had the org done things differently. I’m still annoyed by Pop’s “no comment, no looking back” speech at the season’s commencement, because it means no accountability. Curious for an org built on it.

Anyway, I’m still rooting for Kawhi and happy to see the Warriors get smashed. At the beginning of the season, I called the Raptors my favorite to win it all; I was laughed at by many! But I remembered 2017.

:cry but it was all Kawhi's fault. In PATFO we trust.

[SpurPadre]

I wonder if Pop is punching air or DeRozan

Neither. He's chillin' at Napa drinking some quality Pinot Noir, tbh.

[Gamechannel]

This is a exactly what so many on this board keep alluding to and why so many of us are pissed. We don’t have proof, but have seen the behavior of PATFO for years that matches this theory. The injury mishandling just broke the camels back.

The “culture” signings to the detriment of the team are a real thing. And Pop himself said he would prefer Kawhi to only average between 22-24 points a game. Who fucking does that to their superstar?! Tim and Manu were an anomaly. With all the winning, Pop got drunk on his ability to get them to do whatever he wanted.

He doesn’t care about winning as much anymore as many on this board can see from a mile away. It’s all about “muh culture” these days.

The guy and his ego have just become bigger than the team and nobody has the balls to tell him to straighten the fuck up or retire. He shouldn’t be fired because of his legacy. But he should be strongly urged to retire.

I root for the San Antonio Spurs, not the San Antonio Pops.

Regardless of what happened, who did what to hurt Kawhi's fragile ego, the fact remains that the f****r quit on his team. End of. If you have disagreements with your coach, you sort it out like a man. Not hide behind the excuse of injury and let your uncle handle shit for you. Be a man and talk to your coach face to face. Dude wasn't even on the fucking bench in street clothes supporting his team. He quit plain and simple.

[Genovaswitness]

but you'd move for free to california? Enjoy going broke :lol

over Michigan and Pennsylvania? Fuck yeah. Texas over everything thiugh

[TDomination]

Question: Does Toronto get this far without Danny Green?
If we kept Danny and lets say Poeltl stayed too. And it was just a Kawhi for Demar plus 1st pick.


IMO, no. Danny is a key roleplayer that helped us in 13 and in 14. When he disappeared, the team disappeared. He was vital to our success offensively but more importantly defensively.

With that said, I'm more upset we got rid of Danny in this trade. Even though he wasn't playing as well, it was still a contract year coming up. There was a good chance his game would have improved. But thats all speculation. Wish we would've kept him though.

[dbreiden83080]

I've said this before too.
Zaza should've gotten NBA Finals MVP that year. He changed the course of history with his foot.

And I said at the time, the Spurs needed to take Curry out. Old school NBA that little dude was getting cracked hard after ZA ZA did what he did..

[Leetonidas]

Asterisk title anyway. Not like I feel sorry at all for GS but Leonard winning a title against an injury decimated team is an asterisk title imo. Just like warriors in 2015

[TDomination]

Asterisk title anyway. Not like I feel sorry at all for GS but Leonard winning a title against an injury decimated team is an asterisk title imo. Just like warriors in 2015
And warriors in 17 (Kawhi injury) and Warriors in 18 (Chris paul injury)

Just like we've seen in the past, with Championships, you just need a lot of breaks to go your way. Injuries for other teams (no injuries for your team). Ball bouncing your way. You need to be good of course, but need to be lucky as well.

[Leetonidas]

And warriors in 17 (Kawhi injury) and Warriors in 18 (Chris paul injury)

Just like we've seen in the past, with Championships, you just need a lot of breaks to go your way. Injuries for other teams (no injuries for your team). Ball bouncing your way. You need to be good of course, but need to be lucky as well.

I get that but when one of the teams is missing their best player and 2 of their starters have missed time along with their 6th man playing injured....that's more than luck imo

[UZER]

Regardless of what happened, who did what to hurt Kawhi's fragile ego, the fact remains that the f****r quit on his team. End of. If you have disagreements with your coach, you sort it out like a man. Not hide behind the excuse of injury and let your uncle handle shit for you. Be a man and talk to your coach face to face. Dude wasn't even on the fucking bench in street clothes supporting his team. He quit plain and simple.

The Kawhi fiasco is layers deep, but the starting point was what Perry Mason pointed out, and the Spurs and Pop did nothing to address it. The injury handling is the stake that drove him away. I have never excused Kawhis behavior towards the end of the saga. But through the injury mess, something was said or done that pissed Kawhi off so much that he didn’t even want to be in the same room as Pop.

[therealtruth]

Question: Does Toronto get this far without Danny Green?
If we kept Danny and lets say Poeltl stayed too. And it was just a Kawhi for Demar plus 1st pick.


IMO, no. Danny is a key roleplayer that helped us in 13 and in 14. When he disappeared, the team disappeared. He was vital to our success offensively but more importantly defensively.

With that said, I'm more upset we got rid of Danny in this trade. Even though he wasn't playing as well, it was still a contract year coming up. There was a good chance his game would have improved. But thats all speculation. Wish we would've kept him though.

There would have been no point in keeping Green. Pop would bench him in favor of Mills/Bellineli. The Raptors are a better fit.

[spursparker9]

I think kawhi has a case to be ahead of KD

Maybe in the future. But currently, KD is still ahead even if Nephew win the ring for Raptors

[Capt Bringdown]

This is a exactly what so many on this board keep alluding to and why so many of us are pissed. We don’t have proof, but have seen the behavior of PATFO for years that matches this theory. The injury mishandling just broke the camels back.

The “culture” signings to the detriment of the team are a real thing. And Pop himself said he would prefer Kawhi to only average between 22-24 points a game. Who fucking does that to their superstar?! Tim and Manu were an anomaly. With all the winning, Pop got drunk on his ability to get them to do whatever he wanted.

He doesn’t care about winning as much anymore as many on this board can see from a mile away. It’s all about “muh culture” these days.

The guy and his ego have just become bigger than the team and nobody has the balls to tell him to straighten the fuck up or retire. He shouldn’t be fired because of his legacy. But he should be strongly urged to retire.

I root for the San Antonio Spurs, not the San Antonio Pops.

Well said.
It's apparent that the Spurs didn't know what they had with Leonard: a potential all-time great. Leonard is poised to win his second FMVP.

When you've got an all-time great, you move mountains to keep him. Because we may never see the likes of Leonard again.

[Dennis the Menace]

This is a exactly what so many on this board keep alluding to and why so many of us are pissed. We don’t have proof, but have seen the behavior of PATFO for years that matches this theory. The injury mishandling just broke the camels back.

The “culture” signings to the detriment of the team are a real thing. And Pop himself said he would prefer Kawhi to only average between 22-24 points a game. Who fucking does that to their superstar?! Tim and Manu were an anomaly. With all the winning, Pop got drunk on his ability to get them to do whatever he wanted.

He doesn’t care about winning as much anymore as many on this board can see from a mile away. It’s all about “muh culture” these days.

The guy and his ego have just become bigger than the team and nobody has the balls to tell him to straighten the fuck up or retire. He shouldn’t be fired because of his legacy. But he should be strongly urged to retire.

I root for the San Antonio Spurs, not the San Antonio Pops.

Preach.

[daslicer]

After the finals is over it's time to move on from this saga. Spurs are not the first organization to lose a player of #2's caliber and it won't be the last. They just joined OKC,Cleveland,Orlando,Milwaukee.

[SpursBig3s]

If, at any point, the Spurs decided they didn't want to offer the supermax because of advice from the medical team...all blame should be off Kawhi tbh....

Sure, he handled it in the faggiest way possible but there's about 2-3 players in the league worth the supermax no matter what and if the Spurs/medical staff were to stupid to see that then props to Kawhi and his group for proving how stupid they were tbh.....

Doesn't matter if he sits 70 games during the regular season, what you're seeing from him this postseason run is worth it, easy.


The blame is NOT completely off Kawhi. he shoulder's the majority of it. other than that I completely agree with you. KAwhi is a fucking bitch, but that bitch ass is Kobe Bryant level reincarnated and is worth every penny of 220 million. If the spurs honestly thought they could pull a Duncan and try and get him to take less, that is monumentally stupid. There won't ever be another star with Duncan/Manu/Dirk's mindset. you swallow your pride and make that faggot say no to 200 + million

[Genovaswitness]

Wonder what pussy ass DePression is thinking right now

[Gibbz]

KAwhi is a fucking bitch, but that bitch ass is Kobe Bryant level reincarnated

Nephew is way better than Kobe Bryant, tbh.

[JeffDuncan]

Wonder what pussy ass DePression is thinking right now

I wouldn't be surprised if he's taking it better than we are.

Half the posters here sound like they're about to wander down to the Jack in the Box parking lot and sit there all night.

[UZER]

I wouldn't be surprised if he's taking it better than we are.

Half the posters here sound like they're about to wander down to the Jack in the Box parking lot and sit there all night.

:lol First gotta pick up the order of tacos.

[ace3g]

Most likely hyperbole from an article but can't find the source yet.

https://twitter.com/MCamerlengo/status/1137408092742803456


Stories about Leonard’s Herculean strength have long been whispered about around the league. There’s a machine in the San Antonio Spurs’ weight room that staffers referred to as “The Yo-Yo.” An athlete stands on a metal platform and straps into a harness around the midsection, which is attached by a thick wire that connects the harness to a steel wheel underneath the base. The athlete then performs a squat, anchored by the steel wheel that pulls the athlete down, making it more difficult to stand upright from a deep squat. (Hence, “The Yo-Yo.”)

For most pro athletes, this is a grueling exercise, like a super squat. But after several repetitions on “The Yo-Yo,” it was clear that this wasn’t a challenge for Leonard. Under close observation of strength coaches and teammates, Leonard took it to another level. The trainers added a steel plate that would create a downward force of two times Leonard’s body weight, which at the time was around 250 pounds.
Leonard kept going, with relative ease. Then suddenly, Leonard stopped. The room turned silent as Leonard looked down at his feet. He cracked the metal platform. He literally broke the machine. Said one Spurs staffer who witnessed it that day: “Too strong for it.”

Leonard has used his massive wingspan to help grab the 2014 Finals MVP and two NBA Defensive Player of the Year awards. But it’s that enormous frame that Matt Herring, who was the Spurs’ strength and conditioning coach for three seasons beginning in Leonard’s rookie year, remembers being excited, but also concerned about.
“One of the things we could just tell, if we weren’t cognizant of his training style, he could have gotten really big and muscular,” Herring said. “He came in with these great broad shoulders. I don’t know about a LeBron James size, but we were like, man, with Kawhi, you could just tell as a young kid he had the genetic makeup and the potential that, if we trained him a certain way, he could be looking like a linebacker, this big body.”

Another Spurs staffer recalls Leonard once coming into training camp at a monstrous 265 pounds. He shed 20 pounds in three weeks of training camp as they wanted him to be more of an explosive wing than a power forward. Nowadays, Leonard is everything the Raptors need him to be.
“We wanted him stealthy, not stocky,” Herring said of Leonard in San Antonio. “The kid worked incredibly hard, no questions asked. Always willing to do whatever you wanted him to do. If we weren’t careful, he could blow up and become a football player.”




https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/nba-insider-tom-haberstroh/kawhi-leonards-regular-season-rest-could-topple-warriors-dynasty

[gambit1990]

Wonder what pussy ass DePression is thinking right now
he’s booking a flight to TOR to celebrate the raps winning game 5.

[cjw]

After the finals is over it's time to move on from this saga. Spurs are not the first organization to lose a player of #2's caliber and it won't be the last. They just joined OKC,Cleveland,Orlando,Milwaukee.

I thought you were referring to Dwight Howard for a second.

Them remembered Shaq.

[daslicer]

I thought you were referring to Dwight Howard for a second.

Them remembered Shaq.

Haha I wish #2 was of Dwight's caliber. OKC-Durant,Cleveland-Lebron,Orlando-Shaq,Milwaukee-Jabbar and maybe Giannis in a few years. I think it's a uphill battle to keep these types of players. Spurs had a winning team and enough talent to win a title but #2 still didn't want to be in SA mainly due to lack of branding opportunities.

[Gibbz]

Haha I wish #2 was of Dwight's caliber. OKC-Durant,Cleveland-Lebron,Orlando-Shaq,Milwaukee-Jabbar and maybe Giannis in a few years. I think it's a uphill battle to keep these types of players. Spurs had a winning team and enough talent to win a title but #2 still didn't want to be in SA mainly due to lack of branding opportunities.

Pretty much gotta cross your fingers and pray you hit on the next Dirk-level non-American if you want to retain a transcendent-level player. Mavs may have the next one in Luka, but even he comes across as a diva to me.

[daslicer]

Pretty much gotta cross your fingers and pray you hit on the next Dirk-level non-American if you want to retain a transcendent-level player.

It's why I believe Cuban was so obsessed with having both Doncic and Porzingis. He knows if it pans out with those guys and they become superstars that he has them for the next 10-15 years without having to deal with any drama .

[InRareForm]

Is there a link to the timeline of events or a well written report of the kawhi situation in SA.

[Capt Bringdown]

After the finals is over it's time to move on from this saga. Spurs are not the first organization to lose a player of #2's caliber and it won't be the last. They just joined OKC,Cleveland,Orlando,Milwaukee.

So how do you imagine this working, do we submit topics for your approval?
LOL, thought police

[daslicer]

So how do you imagine this working, do we submit topics for your approval?
LOL, thought police

So are you never going to get over #2 not being a Spurs? Are you going to obsess about him the next 4-5 years of his prime? I can understand all the mourning that occurs in here about his departure for this year but whining about it after this season is pathetic.

[HarlemHeat37]

Is Tony Parker going to get a ring from the Raptors for running Kawhi out of SA?

[JeffDuncan]

Is there a link to the timeline of events or a well written report of the kawhi situation in SA.

There's this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.poundingtherock.com/platform/amp/2018/7/23/17588318/timeline-kawhi-leonard-saga-san-antonio-spurs

I wouldn't call it complete, but it hits the high points. Or low points.

[JeffDuncan]

Riddle me this. If Durant, and perhaps Thompson, leave the Warriors, what will the Warriors have available to offer Kawhi, to play alongside Curry?

[JeffDuncan]

Patfo should get a ring too, they made this happen tbh.

Not a ring. PATFO should get a Participation Trophy like they give to participants who have special needs.

[timtonymanu]

Asterisks titles >>> Culture participation trophies we've been throwing out lately

[khantot]

“He’s always been that guy who you can look at when something goes bad. He just has that calm demeanor. It gives you that peace, knowing that everything is going to be OK. And I feel like that every time I’m on the floor with him.”

Pascal "Spicy P" Siakam

[khantot]

“The one thing Kawhi really stressed to us was just to enjoy it. Don’t get too out of character, just enjoy the moment and continue to go out there and just lay it on the floor. So it was an amazing feeling just to be able to battle and chip away at it.”

Norman Powell

[NASpurs]

“He’s always been that guy who you can look at when something goes bad. He just has that calm demeanor. It gives you that peace, knowing that everything is going to be OK. And I feel like that every time I’m on the floor with him.”

Pascal "Spicy P" Siakam




“The one thing Kawhi really stressed to us was just to enjoy it. Don’t get too out of character, just enjoy the moment and continue to go out there and just lay it on the floor. So it was an amazing feeling just to be able to battle and chip away at it.”

Norman Powell

The guy sounds like an asshole, what a prick. Glad he's gone.

What pearls of wisdom are LMA and DeMar passing when our team is getting bounced in the first round once again? At least we have spiritual and team leader Patty "Wombat" Mills serving the Starbucks coffee.

[lefty]

THE HERD WITH COLIN COWHERD
Steve Fisher Says He's Tired of People Saying Kawhi Leonard is Not a Leader
posted by Wil Leitner - Jun 6, 2019





"Others saying he’s not a leader has always bothered me. I watched him with us at San Diego State and his greatest leadership qualities were leading by example. He never takes a play off in practice, and he also is someone that when you mess up as a teammate and do something wrong he’ll never give an outward display of displeasure. He ALWAYS has your back and players appreciate that. I’ve seen him in the locker room go over and put an arm around a guy and whisper something in his ear. Those kinds of qualities no one sees.” -- Steve Fisher, Kawhi Leonard's head coach at San Diego State.
Listen to former NCAA Tournament National Champion head coach Steve Fisher join The Herd to talk about his experience coaching superstar Toronto Raptors forward Kawhi Leonard while he was a standout player at San Diego State from 2010-2012.

Fisher is most remembered for his time at Michigan on their National Championship team in 1989 and even more so for his role as the head coach of the Fab Five team in the early 90’s. Fisher would later resurrect his career with the San Diego State Aztecs from 1999-2017.

Check out the audio below as Fisher details the two years Kawhi spent with the program, as the Kawhi led-2011 team went 34-3 and got to the Sweet Sixteen as the greatest team in San Diego State history. Fisher tells Colin why he’s tired of people saying Kawhi is not a great leader and explains why Leonard is an exceptional leader by example.

[UZER]

THE HERD WITH COLIN COWHERD
Steve Fisher Says He's Tired of People Saying Kawhi Leonard is Not a Leader
posted by Wil Leitner - Jun 6, 2019





"Others saying he’s not a leader has always bothered me. I watched him with us at San Diego State and his greatest leadership qualities were leading by example. He never takes a play off in practice, and he also is someone that when you mess up as a teammate and do something wrong he’ll never give an outward display of displeasure. He ALWAYS has your back and players appreciate that. I’ve seen him in the locker room go over and put an arm around a guy and whisper something in his ear. Those kinds of qualities no one sees.” -- Steve Fisher, Kawhi Leonard's head coach at San Diego State.
Listen to former NCAA Tournament National Champion head coach Steve Fisher join The Herd to talk about his experience coaching superstar Toronto Raptors forward Kawhi Leonard while he was a standout player at San Diego State from 2010-2012.

Fisher is most remembered for his time at Michigan on their National Championship team in 1989 and even more so for his role as the head coach of the Fab Five team in the early 90’s. Fisher would later resurrect his career with the San Diego State Aztecs from 1999-2017.

Check out the audio below as Fisher details the two years Kawhi spent with the program, as the Kawhi led-2011 team went 34-3 and got to the Sweet Sixteen as the greatest team in San Diego State history. Fisher tells Colin why he’s tired of people saying Kawhi is not a great leader and explains why Leonard is an exceptional leader by example.

If he doesn’t take pay cut then he’s not a real leader.

:pop:

[khantot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfN7HT3Uwn0&t=194s

Steve Fisher on Kawhi's leadership

[TimDunkem]

THE HERD WITH COLIN COWHERD
Steve Fisher Says He's Tired of People Saying Kawhi Leonard is Not a Leader
posted by Wil Leitner - Jun 6, 2019





"Others saying he’s not a leader has always bothered me. I watched him with us at San Diego State and his greatest leadership qualities were leading by example. He never takes a play off in practice, and he also is someone that when you mess up as a teammate and do something wrong he’ll never give an outward display of displeasure. He ALWAYS has your back and players appreciate that. I’ve seen him in the locker room go over and put an arm around a guy and whisper something in his ear. Those kinds of qualities no one sees.” -- Steve Fisher, Kawhi Leonard's head coach at San Diego State.
Listen to former NCAA Tournament National Champion head coach Steve Fisher join The Herd to talk about his experience coaching superstar Toronto Raptors forward Kawhi Leonard while he was a standout player at San Diego State from 2010-2012.

Fisher is most remembered for his time at Michigan on their National Championship team in 1989 and even more so for his role as the head coach of the Fab Five team in the early 90’s. Fisher would later resurrect his career with the San Diego State Aztecs from 1999-2017.

Check out the audio below as Fisher details the two years Kawhi spent with the program, as the Kawhi led-2011 team went 34-3 and got to the Sweet Sixteen as the greatest team in San Diego State history. Fisher tells Colin why he’s tired of people saying Kawhi is not a great leader and explains why Leonard is an exceptional leader by example.

Really fucked up for Pop to say Kawhi wasn't a leader when he's the type to lead by example. I guess the difference with Duncan was that he was willing to take that paycut and just shut up and do whatever Pop demanded. :rolleyes

[TimDunkem]

This is a exactly what so many on this board keep alluding to and why so many of us are pissed. We don’t have proof, but have seen the behavior of PATFO for years that matches this theory. The injury mishandling just broke the camels back.

The “culture” signings to the detriment of the team are a real thing. And Pop himself said he would prefer Kawhi to only average between 22-24 points a game. Who fucking does that to their superstar?! Tim and Manu were an anomaly. With all the winning, Pop got drunk on his ability to get them to do whatever he wanted.

He doesn’t care about winning as much anymore as many on this board can see from a mile away. It’s all about “muh culture” these days.

The guy and his ego have just become bigger than the team and nobody has the balls to tell him to straighten the fuck up or retire. He shouldn’t be fired because of his legacy. But he should be strongly urged to retire.

I root for the San Antonio Spurs, not the San Antonio Pops.

Truth bomb of epic proportions.

How ironic that the guy who always demanded that others "get over themselves" eventually became so self-absorbed that he started to believe his own legend.

[Number 2]

Damn. It's really kind of sad when you think about it. Raptors have discovered key leadership qualities in Kawhi that went undetected/underappreciated in San Antonio because of his subtle personality. Shame that a coach privileged with Tim Duncan for 20 years couldn't recognize the value of Leonard's leadership-by-example.

Kawhi's in a position now where his team is eager to listen and follow his lead, and patient in doing so. Appears Pop's cultural hierarchy wasn't the best place for him after all, tbqh.

[timtonymanu]

The guy sounds like an asshole, what a prick. Glad he's gone.

What pearls of wisdom are LMA and DeMar passing when our team is getting bounced in the first round once again? At least we have spiritual and team leader Patty "Wombat" Mills serving the Starbucks coffee.

Pop: fall in line, there isn’t any basketball anymore.

Kawhi: go out there and enjoy the moment.

Clearly the former is a philosophy I want to follow.

[Kurgan]

The leader insult from Pop was just his way of lashing out at Leonard and his group. Pop's idea of a leader is someone that follows the chain of command, military style. Independent thinkers are not embraced under military doctrine. This is why players like Rodman, SJax, Dedmon, and Simmons never lasted more than two seasons in SA. Pop and Robinson implemented this structure in the 90s, both coming from military backgrounds. They were extremely fortunate they lucked into drafting TD - the most laid back/adaptable superstar in NBA history. Pop couldn't surround him with American-born players - too independent as was the case with Derek Anderson. He opted for Euros like Manu and Parker, guys who didn't want to rock the boat and stifle their pro career so they did as they were told. Euro players have always been loyal and subservient. Dirk taking a paycut for Cuban. Boban wanting to sign for less just to stay on the Spurs - Pop had to beat him with a stick just to get him to accept that big Detroit offer. This was an extremely successful formula while the big three were in their prime. The rest of the league caught up and began targeting Euros. This coincided with the decline of the big three. Spurs were no longer title contenders and it became more and more difficult to reload with late picks when everybody was targeting the same guys.

Kawhi changed things almost immediately. It's not often that a Spurs rookie breaks into the starting lineup but Kawhi did what only Parker and Duncan did before him . Spurs fans would have been thrilled if Kawhi ended up becoming another Gerard Wallace(3&D player was a team need with Bowen's departure). He exceeded those expectations immediately when it became apparent he was the 2nd most important player on the team during the Finals in only his sophomore season.

The Kawhi fiasco was a major snag in their culture and philosophy though. They thought they'd developed the next Duncan - the quiet humble superstar that would fit in perfectly under this rigid military structure. They miscalculated badly. For example, they thought those HEB commercials were funny and helped build the family culture in the Spurs. Kawhi and his group took it personally. His rivals like Harden, Durant, and Lebron were getting endorsements that propped them up and sold their brand. Kawhi, instead, was made to look like a retard in those corny HEB ads. He was the butt of the joke every time.

PATFO's inability to adapt with the times and embrace the NBA superstar culture cost them badly. From all reports, they still haven't learned their lesson as we've seen no accountability from the people up top. Their idea of a fix was a bandaid solution - hire a team photographer. You know it's a sinking ship when everyone but the sycophants want out. Just a few days ago, Udoka opted to leave SA for another assistant coaching position, a lateral move but he gets to work with a promising young core in Philly. A player development coach like him is wasted in SA, a retirement home for the unwanted losers of the NBA like LMA, Derozan, Rudy Gay, Bellinelli, Patty Mills, Cunningham, Pondexter, etc. Spurs will continue to suffer from this brain drain as the talented people in the organization depart for brighter pastures, while the ass kissers cling on, hoping to outlast Pop for the easy guaranteed head coaching position.

[daslicer]

The leader insult from Pop was just his way of lashing out at Leonard and his group. Pop's idea of a leader is someone that follows the chain of command, military style. Independent thinkers are not embraced under military doctrine. This is why players like Rodman, SJax, Dedmon, and Simmons never lasted more than two seasons in SA. Pop and Robinson implemented this structure in the 90s, both coming from military backgrounds. They were extremely fortunate they lucked into drafting TD - the most laid back/adaptable superstar in NBA history. Pop couldn't surround him with American-born players - too independent as was the case with Derek Anderson. He opted for Euros like Manu and Parker, guys who didn't want to rock the boat and stifle their pro career so they did as they were told. Euro players have always been loyal and subservient. Dirk taking a paycut for Cuban. Boban wanting to sign for less just to stay on the Spurs - Pop had to beat him with a stick just to get him to accept that big Detroit offer. This was an extremely successful formula while the big three were in their prime. The rest of the league caught up and began targeting Euros. This coincided with the decline of the big three. Spurs were no longer title contenders and it became more and more difficult to reload with late picks when everybody was targeting the same guys.

Kawhi changed things almost immediately. It's not often that a Spurs rookie breaks into the starting lineup but Kawhi did what only Parker and Duncan did before him . Spurs fans would have been thrilled if Kawhi ended up becoming another Gerard Wallace(3&D player was a team need with Bowen's departure). He exceeded those expectations immediately when it became apparent he was the 2nd most important player on the team during the Finals in only his sophomore season.

The Kawhi fiasco was a major snag in their culture and philosophy though. They thought they'd developed the next Duncan - the quiet humble superstar that would fit in perfectly under this rigid military structure. They miscalculated badly. For example, they thought those HEB commercials were funny and helped build the family culture in the Spurs. Kawhi and his group took it personally. His rivals like Harden, Durant, and Lebron were getting endorsements that propped them up and sold their brand. Kawhi, instead, was made to look like a retard in those corny HEB ads. He was the butt of the joke every time.

PATFO's inability to adapt with the times and embrace the NBA superstar culture cost them badly. From all reports, they still haven't learned their lesson as we've seen no accountability from the people up top. Their idea of a fix was a bandaid solution - hire a team photographer. You know it's a sinking ship when everyone but the sycophants want out. Just a few days ago, Udoka opted to leave SA for another assistant coaching position, a lateral move but he gets to work with a promising young core in Philly. A player development coach like him is wasted in SA, a retirement home for the unwanted losers of the NBA like LMA, Derozan, Rudy Gay, Bellinelli, Patty Mills, Cunningham, Pondexter, etc. Spurs will continue to suffer from this brain drain as the talented people in the organization depart for brighter pastures, while the ass kissers cling on, hoping to outlast Pop for the easy guaranteed head coaching position.

1. All those guys you mention are malcontents that couldn't last long term in any environment without causing disruption.
2. #2 may very well be the best player in the league right now but lets not get carried away about the Spurs hurting his brand. His brand suffered mainly because he has zero personality along with charisma. I have never seen a superstar with 0 personality/charisma be a big time endorser. I can't see that happening with #2. He's always going to be unintentionally the butt of jokes in any commercial he does simply because he's socially awkward. That's not going to change anywhere he goes. By the way he still gets cracked on from his awkward post game interviews.

[Number 2]

2. #2 may very well be the best player in the league right now but lets not get carried away about the Spurs hurting his brand. His brand suffered mainly because he has zero personality along with charisma. I have never seen a superstar with 0 personality/charisma be a big time endorser. I can't see that happening with #2. He's always going to be unintentionally the butt of jokes in any commercial he does simply because he's socially awkward. That's not going to change anywhere he goes. By the way he still gets cracked on from his awkward post game interviews.

He's getting more respect and adulation in Toronto than he ever has in SA. That same lack of charisma which made him the butt of jokes in SA, has been emphasized in Toronto as a quality of mystery and strength: The Terminator, The Machine, The Quiet Assassin and so forth and so on. This will be his trademark going forward, and it's going to be big.

[cjw]

Riddle me this. If Durant, and perhaps Thompson, leave the Warriors, what will the Warriors have available to offer Kawhi, to play alongside Curry?

Steph, Draymond and Iggy already account for $75mm of salary, so with a cap of $109 million and the entire rest of the roster accounted for with minimum roster holds of $500k (I know it’s a bit higher, but good enough for this math), that puts them at under $30mm starting salary for Kawhi.

Probably would have to be done via a sign and trade.

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/1137099846945521665

[KenziE]

KD 2 Rings 2FMVP

KL about to have 2 Rings 2FMVP without joining a 73-9 team

[Genovaswitness]

Kawhi surpasses KD a long time ago. he’s surpassed leshit too but the rest of the league can’t admit it yet

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1137544450799013888

[JeffDuncan]

Somebody is having a lttle joke.

[Millennial_Messiah]

over Michigan and Pennsylvania? Fuck yeah. Texas over everything thiugh

:lmao 13.3% state income taxes
:lmao Blue Mecca

also, talk about "bumfuck" states, but if you move to the CA coast you're likely to get literally "bumfucked" by a gang of muscular dudes in pink tutus if you dare as much as take a nap in your car.

[Johojowhite]

KD 2 Rings 2FMVP

KL about to have 2 Rings 2FMVP without joining a 73-9 team
He’s also only one ring behind Lebron and he’s like 6 years younger.

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/1137099846945521665
:lmao

[timvp]

https://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/1137099846945521665

:lol :lol :cry :lol

[Legacy]

https://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/1137099846945521665

:cry OMG, I love this song so much. Just perfect. :cry

[SpursFamo]

I said before and I'll say it again, this thread is one of the most entertaining places on the Internet

Some of y'all start talking shit before the game even starts, just to be shut up by Kawhi immediately afterwards, it's too funny :lmao

Y'all need to just accept the fact the Spurs traded one of the best players of this Generation all becuz PATFO didn't know how to handle the Modern NBA American Superstar.

[Dejounte]

I said before and I'll say it again, this thread is one of the most entertaining places on the Internet

Some of y'all start talking shit before the game even starts, just to be shut up by Kawhi immediately afterwards, it's too funny :lmao

Y'all need to just accept the fact the Spurs traded one of the best players of this Generation all becuz PATFO didn't know how to handle the Modern NBA American Superstar.

Apsolics' alt account right here. Pathetic.

[99 Problems]

Yer that was good, right down to TD on the t-shirt. But yer that China trip really clouded the pond. After China the whole saga was like one of those fish ponds with those orange coloured carp swimming in the blackened water under the lillies or a backed up crapper with one that won’t flush and you need a crowbar to break its back tbh..... sad really. Anyhow better the Raptors than some of the ass clowns we could have sent him to tbh....

[Murray2k]

https://twitter.com/YahooSportsNBA/status/1137099846945521665

This is too good :lmao

[acoelho1]

I'm willing to give Pop and the franchise the benefit of the doubt given we have been the winningest franchise in the last 20 years. Sure you can say we lucked into it by getting Duncan if you want but there has been great players in the past that haven't had the same success as the Spurs. Nevertheless, despite everything, I think we are in good shape and I'm sure Pop and RC learned a lot of lessons during this saga and regret their role in losing a franchise talent. I'm highly optimistic about our young guys and believe we will be contending in the near future.

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1137571287654682624

[RC_Drunkford]

Until Zaza we were definitely the #1 threat of taking down the Dubs

https://twitter.com/Matthew_Tynan/status/1137347133152071680?s=20

[BillMc]

Kawhi revenge tour.

Takes out 2 former Spurs coaches in the Eastern playoffs, another former Spur in Kerr, and gets to punish the team that ZaZaed him. :lol