***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[Wu36]

Trolls out tonight. Nobody really gives a fuck

[GB20]

Dennis hated the Spurs and controls Nephew. Nothing could have been done.

Exactly!! We have to move on. I hope kawhi kill the warriors.

[testies]

The worst part is reading the idiots spurs fans in reddit "Oh but DeMar was great for us, he's so brave! I love rainbows and fairys" Go fuck yourself.

I might need to forget basketball for like 5 years

[timtonymanu]

tell us what happened. not like anything noteworthy is going to happen with the spurs in our lifetimes. we had our chance with kawhi

Parker really did run Kawhi out of town. That's why timvp has been more defensive of Parker than usual to save face and keep his sources to himself. Admirable thing of LJ imo.

[ECOV]

good for him but dude was a ghost us his last season

[Genovaswitness]

Would the Spurs be better if Kawhi was not traded? No. There will be too much drama, team morale will take a big hit and we don't even know if he will even play. You Kawhi-stans are all celebrating (and gloating) because Kawhi helped the Raptors secure a finals appearance.

Still blaming the front office when in fact Kawhi's team did all the damage. Still good riddance.

would rather have a full tear down of the team than run this shit squad capped at the first round.

[TDMVPDPOY]

keeping kawhi would create drama for spurs roster? whose the drama? the remnants of the big 3 still coatriding kawhi for paychecks,f ck those idiots were on their way out anyway, why did they have to open their mouthes

then pop selecting lma over kawhi...fck that was stupid...

[NASpurs]

Not sure why he's in your pic tbh.

At the time, I welcomed him and it was a gesture to start anew. Now I know that he’s complete trash and I’ve been too lazy to change it.

[jmard5]

With Tony and Manu gone I think it would've been fine. Nobody on the team has status anymore.

There will be a lot of uncertainties if they let Kawhi stay. Will he play? How about the constants distractions? Trading him is the right call since the team can move on and settle on achievable goals.

[RD2191]

keeping kawhi would create drama for spurs roster? whose the drama? the remnants of the big 3 still coatriding kawhi for paychecks,f ck those idiots were on their way out anyway, why did they have to open their mouthes

then pop selecting lma over kawhi...fck that was stupid...

Tbh

[Clipper Nation]

Everybody who bought into the "Poor Kawhi, he has tendinopathy" NONSENSE, you gotta feel pretty silly right now.

He trolled the entire Spurs organization and 99% of spurstalk.

Kawhi was being classy by making the story about his health instead of telling the truth that Porker ran him offPERIOD.

[Degoat]

Just gotta remind ourselves as spurs fans, we Got 5.... 5 championships, it sucks that kawhi looks like the best player in the league right now but most teams have never experienced the success we have had

[NASpurs]

The worst part is reading the idiots spurs fans in reddit "Oh but DeMar was great for us, he's so brave! I love rainbows and fairys" Go fuck yourself.

I might need to forget basketball for like 5 years

:lol it’s all a big jerkoff between themselves and the organization

[Hoops Czar]

Parker really did run Kawhi out of town. That's why timvp has been more defensive of Parker than usual to save face and keep his sources to himself. Admirable thing of LJ imo.
Kawhi was out the door before Parker even opened his mouth.

[timtonymanu]

I know Danny isn't the player he use to be but :lol at trading him for nothing also

[timtonymanu]

:lol it’s all a big jerkoff between themselves and the organization

The same fans that praise Patty for coffee dates

[Genovaswitness]

Just gotta remind ourselves as spurs fans, we Got 5.... 5 championships, it sucks that kawhi looks like the best player in the league right now but most teams have never experienced the success we have had

raptors are about to win one with him

[RD2191]

Maybe one day we'll get the closure we're all looking for. :lol But for now it really fucking sucks.

[Capt Bringdown]

Toronto's got Leonard and a trip to the finals, but Spurs have their culture.

[lefty]

The real fun will be in the playoffs. They will lose to the Celtics or the Sixers.


Doubt it tbh.

:lol

[SpurOutofTownFan]

man so much ignorance

[Nathan89]

The worst part is reading the idiots spurs fans in reddit "Oh but DeMar was great for us, he's so brave! I love rainbows and fairys" Go fuck yourself.

I might need to forget basketball for like 5 years

Those guys have problems. They have been trying to spin that shit trade as a win win like their life depended on it.

[NASpurs]

Toronto's got Leonard and a trip to the finals, but Spurs have their culture.

:lol overpaying your team’s barista

[GB20]

Just gotta remind ourselves as spurs fans, we Got 5.... 5 championships, it sucks that kawhi looks like the best player in the league right now but most teams have never experienced the success we have had

Kawhi is the best player in the league. Kawhi himself put the raptor in the final.

[jmard5]

keeping kawhi would create drama for spurs roster? whose the drama? the remnants of the big 3 still coatriding kawhi for paychecks,f ck those idiots were on their way out anyway, why did they have to open their mouthes

then pop selecting lma over kawhi...fck that was stupid...

Oh yeah, those big 3 that made the Spurs relevant for us Spurs fans. You still blaming Parker here? Kawhi's team made that an excuse to leave the Spurs.

[bic50]

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Cringe

[Wu36]

Why is this even a thing here? Move on fools

[TheGreatYacht]

The real fun will be in the playoffs. They will lose to the Celtics or the Sixers.
176 posts in this thread, 7 pages, all from you

Nowhere to be found :lmao

[davidbowie]

imagine this happening but he went to the lakers instead. guess it could always be worse

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

Kawhi had a top 5 performance, right up there with Lebron vs the 73 win Warriors, Dirk vs Heat, Dream vs Spurs, etc.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

imagine this happening but he went to the lakers instead. guess it could always be worse

Sadly that can still happen as early as next season lol

[GB20]

Sadly that can still happen as early as next season lol

I hope it doesn't happen because that will be nusty.

[cjw]

If Kawhi beats the Warriors, will that finally put an asterisk on the Zaza championship?

[Nathan89]

Toronto is winning the finals if Durant isn't coming back tbh. Kawhi is just the best player in the NBA. Put Kawhi on Draymond and Green on Curry and just shut that offense down. It's over. Plus GSW doesn't have the length inside to deter Kawhi.

[r0drig0lac]

it's one thing to hate Kawhi for his character (which is absolutely normal until we know the whole story) the other is a shameful and pathetic change of opnion over Kawhi's game and its insane impact when the deal was made (logically the opposite happened in Demar, which 100% of the forum used to laugh and call it a false star) as if Kawhi was not destroying teams by own account, when playing in SA.

[Nathan89]

If Kawhi beats the Warriors, will that finally put an asterisk on the Zaza championship?

No. It's just context for the championship.

[FkLA]

Enrique didn't run him off. The writing was on the wall before those comments and before the players only meeting.

The only way in which I'd put a lot of the blame on the Spurs is if, at some point, they indicated that the supermax was not an option. If you can give those shit contracts to Wombat and Pau, you have to give the supermax to Neph even if you have concerns about his thigh. If they didn't make it abundantly clear to Uncle that the supermax was theirs to have then they fucked up royally.

[GB20]

If Kawhi beats the Warriors, will that finally put an asterisk on the Zaza championship?

Not, it means you don't need four superstars on the same team to win championships.

[cd98]

DeRozen needs to be on suicide watch after witnessing Kawhi do what he couldn’t come close to doing.

[DPG21920]

It’s amazing how good Kawhi is. Hate what he allowed to happen, don’t love what Sa got in return due to his actions. But he’s an amazing player.

[cjw]

No. It's just context for the championship.

That’s what an asterisk is. It puts context next to something. Doesn’t mean it never happened.

[gambit1990]

holy shit, just heard the demar news :wow:wow

was always a hater of his but damn, RIP man...

[Dennis the Menace]

Culture over winning is the Spurs way LOL

If there’s no Tim Duncan, there’s no rings and Pop would’ve been fired within 5 years of coaching

[GB20]

It’s amazing how good Kawhi is. Hate what he allowed to happen, don’t love what Sa got in return due to his actions. But he’s an amazing player.

As spurs fan we always kwe he was amazing player

[RC_Drunkford]

Enrique didn't run him off. The writing was on the wall before those comments and before the players only meeting.

The only way in which I'd put a lot of the blame on the Spurs is if, at some point, they indicated that the supermax was not an option. If you can give those shit contracts to Wombat and Pau, you have to give the supermax to Neph even if you have concerns about his thigh. If they didn't make it abundantly clear to Uncle that the supermax was theirs to have then they fucked up royally.

This. I still feel though, the Spurs should've never made public comments about Kawhi at all. Everything anybody said about Kawhi got blown out of proportion by ESPN cause they wanted him in LA. Pop shouldve just said he's rehabbing and tell every player to not say anything about the situation. That might've helped. Just a weird situation, Kawhi still seems to be the same guy, no difference from when he was playing here

[loveforthegame]

But Pop said he wasn’t a leader. :(

https://mobile.twitter.com/Insider6ix/status/1132498965553926144

[Chillen]

Congrats to Kawhi and go Raptors, I hope they pull off an epic series win over Warriors even if it's unlikely.

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/statmuse/status/1132497986246840320

https://mobile.twitter.com/CJMcCollum/status/1132488922360160256

[lefty]

Reporter : “kyle, how do you feel about the DeRozan trade?”

Lowry : “who?”

[Hoops Czar]

But Pop said he wasn’t a leader. :(

https://mobile.twitter.com/Insider6ix/status/1132498965553926144
Pop was a big part of the problem but posters just don't want to believe it.

[bic50]

it's one thing to hate Kawhi for his character (which is absolutely normal until we know the whole story) the other is a shameful and pathetic change of opnion over Kawhi's game and its insane impact when the deal was made (logically the opposite happened in Demar, which 100% of the forum used to laugh and call it a false star) as if Kawhi was not destroying teams by own account, when playing in SA.

[bic50]

Reporter : “kyle, how do you feel about the DeRozan trade?”

Lowry : “who?”
:lol

[FkLA]

Reporter : “kyle, how do you feel about the DeRozan trade?”

Lowry : “who?”

Did this actually happen? :lol

[GAustex]

:lol overpaying your team’s barista
Barista Mills
😀

[spursparker9]

But Pop said he wasn’t a leader. :(

https://mobile.twitter.com/Insider6ix/status/1132498965553926144

How was Nephew at leader when he was making $19/$20 mil last season and refused to play? And also not at the bench doing towel-waving like Patty?

Can't blame Pop for saying that tbh.

Being in Toronto placed Nephew in a perfect environment (from younger or no championship experienced players to coaches to owner looking up to him) to show his leadership skill and to his credit, he has proven it

[bic50]

Just gotta remind ourselves as spurs fans, we Got 5.... 5 championships, it sucks that kawhi looks like the best player in the league right now but most teams have never experienced the success we have had
What sucks is with kl it could have went from 5 to 6 or more

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/LakersEmpire/status/1132499981917536257

[timvp]

https://twitter.com/LakersEmpire/status/1132499981917536257

Congrats, Clipper Nation :tu

[spursparker9]

https://twitter.com/LakersEmpire/status/1132499981917536257

Damn, Nephew's sister really look like Nephew

[therealtruth]

I think the disrespect factored in but the Spurs could have made it irrelevant by putting a competitive team around him like the Raptors have done.

[Capt Bringdown]

https://twitter.com/LakersEmpire/status/1132499981917536257

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4e/92/78/4e9278edc7170b5908a81aaba3c737ab.jpg

[slick'81]

Demar mad

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NBA/status/1132493562971664384?

[RC_Drunkford]

so he won't be in the finals next year? Good to know

[apalisoc_9]

testies new avi :lmao

[Spurs fever]

Hate he's not with us but he's a superstar. It's funny how all this unfolded afterTimmy left.

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/nbastats/status/1132499751377747968

[TDMVPDPOY]

How was Nephew at leader when he was making $19/$20 mil last season and refused to play? And also not at the bench doing towel-waving like Patty?

Can't blame Pop for saying that tbh.

Being in Toronto placed Nephew in a perfect environment (from younger or no championship experienced players to coaches to owner looking up to him) to show his leadership skill and to his credit, he has proven it

pop: win my way or the highway...arrogant coach hasnt proven shit post duncan, post kawhi.... still relying on wombat, dumb, dumber and the dumbkent

[skin27]

Fuck kawhi tbh..

[bklynspursfan]

https://twitter.com/LakersEmpire/status/1132499981917536257

Hopefully that'll shut some of these people up that blame other reasons for last year happening other than him (or uncle Dennis) wanting him in LA.

[apalisoc_9]

Some mod is so salty right now with the thread deletes :lol

[lefty]

Did this actually happen? :lol

:lol no

[lefty]

Some mod is so salty right now with the thread deletes :lol

:lol

That “did Pop produce anything since KL left” had potential

[TheGreatYacht]

Some mod is so salty right now with the thread deletes :lol
RC was probably texting and driving timvp to shut this slander down tbh

[99 Problems]

:claw He helped bust up the Heat. Now time to send Klaymond, Draymond and KD to the far reaches of the league. He’s a one man bunker buster tbh...

[Nathan89]

Do guys think Durant is coming back? Toronto is getting great odds vs gsw tbh.

[lefty]

SUCK IT MOTHER FUCKERS. SUCK IT LOOOOOOOONNNGGGG ANNNNNDDDDDDD HARRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDD


BUT I THOUGHT HE WAS A SYSTEM PLAYER?!?!? I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL POP?!?!? :lmao :lmao :lmao


The real fun will be in the playoffs. They will lose to the Celtics or the Sixers.


Doubt it tbh.


https://mobile.twitter.com/nbastats/status/1132499751377747968

[Uriel]

Enrique didn't run him off. The writing was on the wall before those comments and before the players only meeting.

The only way in which I'd put a lot of the blame on the Spurs is if, at some point, they indicated that the supermax was not an option. If you can give those shit contracts to Wombat and Pau, you have to give the supermax to Neph even if you have concerns about his thigh. If they didn't make it abundantly clear to Uncle that the supermax was theirs to have then they fucked up royally.
Uh, that’s exactly what happened.

[bic50]

Uh, that’s exactly what happened.
Most likely.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If Kawhi beats the Warriors, will that finally put an asterisk on the Zaza championship?

No, Spurs were going to lose that series because the Warriors owned the hell out of SA but at least it owuld've gone 6-7 where anything can happen.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The city is BUZZING right now.

Cops high fiving people, restaurants offering Kawhi free food for life, even some real estate companies are offering Kawhi free penthouses (not that he needs them)

This Raptors team is the most memorable Toronto team since the '93 Jays.

And yet, it sucks, because while I'm happy for my friends who are die hard Raptor fans, and for this city that is usually stuck with teams that choke in their respective sports...we won't get another player of Kawhi's caliber for legit 20 years.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7drGy4W0AAWrlh.jpg:large

[timvp]

https://i.imgur.com/mPI3pYh.png

I had the same reaction, tbh.



:depressed

[SayTown]

Who is Kawhi?

[BillMc]

Let's not confuse the fact that KL is a great player (when willing to play) with the situation last year with the SuperMax.

I mean Kawhi and his crew claimed he was so hurt he could only play in 9 games, couldn't even give it a go in the playoffs, and in fact, required so much alleged treatment he couldn't even sit on the bench and support his team in the playoffs but had to be off in New York.

If true, you can't give a guy with such an injury the SuperMax until you see him healthy. Maybe Balmer could, but the Holts couldn't.

If false, he's a liar with an agenda, and you can't invest that money in him either. Especially when he literally hides from his employers paying him 19 million a year.

Either way, I understand the PATFO thinking. The fact that KL's camp held the Spurs over a barrel by making LA a public destination, killed his trade value. At that point, risking the financial investment trumped weak trade options. I applaud that the Spurs were even willing to uncharacteristically roll the dice at the very end and come with the SuperMax (according to Windhorst) despite health and agenda questions. This has nothing to do with the EGO of PATFO, they were watching out for the Spurs as they always do. When Kawhi, who always wanted to leave declined the offer, then the Spurs had no choice but to get the best trade they could. Given all those conditions they did well (relatively speaking).

[duncan2k5]

I do agree the media these days is always pushing an agenda and publicly Kawhi’s camp didn’t state where he wanted to go or even that he wanted to be traded

But either you are naive or disingenuous to act like he doesn’t have media members who are pushing narratives in his favor on a daily basis. Chris Carter, Monday through Friday since all this craziness started has been Kawhi’s ally and public mouth piece. He has even stated that he is good with the man and his family and has chatted with his Uncle Dennis.

He is also the same guy that said Kawhi wouldn't play for Toronto... He doesn't know shit

[Longlonglongtimelurk]

Let's not confuse the fact that KL is a great player (when willing to play) with the situation last year with the SuperMax.

I mean Kawhi and his crew claimed he was so hurt he could only play in 9 games, couldn't even give it a go in the playoffs, and in fact, required so much alleged treatment he couldn't even sit on the bench and support his team in the playoffs but had to be off in New York.

If true, you can't give a guy with such an injury the SuperMax until you see him healthy. Maybe Balmer could, but the Holts couldn't.

If false, he's a liar with an agenda, and you can't invest that money in him either. Especially when he literally hides from his employers paying him 19 million a year.

Either way, I understand the PATFO thinking. The fact that KL's camp held the Spurs over a barrel by making LA a public destination, killed his trade value. At that point, risking the financial investment truncated weak trade options. I applaud that the Spurs were even willing to uncharacteristically roll the dice at the very end and come with the SuperMax (according to Windhorst) despite health and agenda questions. This has nothing to do with the EGO of PATFO, they were watching out for the Spurs as they always do. When Kawhi, who always wanted to leave declined the offer, then the Spurs had no choice but to get the best trade they could. Given all those conditions they did well (relatively speaking).
This is as level headed and close to what is most likely what went on. I get the frustrations of the fans but this was a situation out of the Spurs control. Everything points to Kawhi wanting to be somewhere else, and once he decided that it was always going to be ugly one way or another.
I back the FO in that they played it how they needed to all things considered, and Leonard went about things in his somewhat autistic manner. I can’t help but still appreciate his game, and how incredible he has been this post season. End of the day he didn’t want to be here and that’s all there is to it.

[duncan2k5]

Hopefully that'll shut some of these people up that blame other reasons for last year happening other than him (or uncle Dennis) wanting him in LA.

U realize that was just a random person saying that right?

[duncan2k5]

He did want to be here... He was playing... Pop shut him down after 9 games... Kawhi didn't stop himself.... Then when rehabbing, all the Spurs vets start throwing shots in the media (what happened to class?) what

[tbdog]

He did want to be here... He was playing... Pop shut him down after 9 games... Kawhi didn't stop himself.... Then when rehabbing, all the Spurs vets start throwing shots in the media (what happened to class?) what

That clearly is not went down.

[jmard5]

Let's not confuse the fact that KL is a great player (when willing to play) with the situation last year with the SuperMax.

I mean Kawhi and his crew claimed he was so hurt he could only play in 9 games, couldn't even give it a go in the playoffs, and in fact, required so much alleged treatment he couldn't even sit on the bench and support his team in the playoffs but had to be off in New York.

If true, you can't give a guy with such an injury the SuperMax until you see him healthy. Maybe Balmer could, but the Holts couldn't.

If false, he's a liar with an agenda, and you can't invest that money in him either. Especially when he literally hides from his employers paying him 19 million a year.

Either way, I understand the PATFO thinking. The fact that KL's camp held the Spurs over a barrel by making LA a public destination, killed his trade value. At that point, risking the financial investment trumped weak trade options. I applaud that the Spurs were even willing to uncharacteristically roll the dice at the very end and come with the SuperMax (according to Windhorst) despite health and agenda questions. This has nothing to do with the EGO of PATFO, they were watching out for the Spurs as they always do. When Kawhi, who always wanted to leave declined the offer, then the Spurs had no choice but to get the best trade they could. Given all those conditions they did well (relatively speaking).

Agree. I couldn't have said it any better myself. Kawhi-stans here have short memories, or wouldn't admit that Kawhi's team did the Spurs no good.

[r0drig0lac]

Hate he's not with us but he's a superstar. It's funny how all this unfolded afterTimmy left.

this is not a coincidence, Duncan carried Pop and the franchise

[Bender]

Damn, Nephew's sister really look like Nephew
I was thinking Derek White

[vander]

man, that Zaza foot really altered NBA history.

oh well, the silver lining is it exposed Pop.

[Dejounte]

Let's not confuse the fact that KL is a great player (when willing to play) with the situation last year with the SuperMax.

I mean Kawhi and his crew claimed he was so hurt he could only play in 9 games, couldn't even give it a go in the playoffs, and in fact, required so much alleged treatment he couldn't even sit on the bench and support his team in the playoffs but had to be off in New York.

If true, you can't give a guy with such an injury the SuperMax until you see him healthy. Maybe Balmer could, but the Holts couldn't.

If false, he's a liar with an agenda, and you can't invest that money in him either. Especially when he literally hides from his employers paying him 19 million a year.

Either way, I understand the PATFO thinking. The fact that KL's camp held the Spurs over a barrel by making LA a public destination, killed his trade value. At that point, risking the financial investment trumped weak trade options. I applaud that the Spurs were even willing to uncharacteristically roll the dice at the very end and come with the SuperMax (according to Windhorst) despite health and agenda questions. This has nothing to do with the EGO of PATFO, they were watching out for the Spurs as they always do. When Kawhi, who always wanted to leave declined the offer, then the Spurs had no choice but to get the best trade they could. Given all those conditions they did well (relatively speaking).

Facts

[cjw]

Hopefully Kawhi realizes what a cakewalk the east is and stays there. Could be the only silver lining here.

[Harry Callahan]

The Raptors success in the playoffs against very flawed teams does not change ANYTHING regarding the underhanded dealings of KL, his group, Uncle Fester (I mean Uncle Dennis) and Impact Sports. The National and local media simply is not interested in what actually happened - I just wish someone in the media would actually challenge KL with real questions on why he passed on playing in the 2018 AND 2017 playoffs for the Spurs. He was cleared to play for months and just walked away from the team last year.

He was actually injured for a period of time in 2017 with the ankle, so I think I could buy that, but the 9 game 2018 season was a disgusting display by the Nephew.

He will have to be on the podium at the press conferences during the Finals. It would be nice to a straight answer out of that guy for once. Probably won't happen, the media will drink the alternative universe Kool-Aid peddled by the "group".

[acoelho1]

I’m over the Kawhi situation and excited about our young players and the future. I can’t and won’t cheer for the Warriors. People need to just let it go and move on.

[TDMVPDPOY]

kawhi is worth the supermax
the year he took a break, that was one hell of a weak year of contestants to wins mvp, make all nba team etc.... had he played, he wouldve locked up maybe mvp, all nba and all defensive team...and if patfo still didnt hand out the supermax? u might as well leave

[kobyz]

Let's not confuse the fact that KL is a great player (when willing to play) with the situation last year with the SuperMax.

I mean Kawhi and his crew claimed he was so hurt he could only play in 9 games, couldn't even give it a go in the playoffs, and in fact, required so much alleged treatment he couldn't even sit on the bench and support his team in the playoffs but had to be off in New York.

If true, you can't give a guy with such an injury the SuperMax until you see him healthy. Maybe Balmer could, but the Holts couldn't.

If false, he's a liar with an agenda, and you can't invest that money in him either. Especially when he literally hides from his employers paying him 19 million a year.

Either way, I understand the PATFO thinking. The fact that KL's camp held the Spurs over a barrel by making LA a public destination, killed his trade value. At that point, risking the financial investment trumped weak trade options. I applaud that the Spurs were even willing to uncharacteristically roll the dice at the very end and come with the SuperMax (according to Windhorst) despite health and agenda questions. This has nothing to do with the EGO of PATFO, they were watching out for the Spurs as they always do. When Kawhi, who always wanted to leave declined the offer, then the Spurs had no choice but to get the best trade they could. Given all those conditions they did well (relatively speaking).

Even in the worst case scenario You still don't trade him for that deal(you trade him only for a bigtime future asset like Zion), you keep him for his final year(spurs had power to make him play out the season), try your best to keep him and at the end if he's out he's out, you go rebuild... No need to over smart things, pop should be ashamed and put down his keys!!!

[TDMVPDPOY]

Even in the worst case scenario You still don't trade him for that deal(you trade him only for a bigtime future asset like Zion), you keep him for his final year(spurs had power to make him play out the season), try your best to keep him and at the end if he's out he's out, you go rebuild... No need to over smart things, pop should be ashamed and put down his keys!!!

hold onto him and tank...seriously dunno why they extended lma, extended pau, mills... kept enrique and ginoboli last year for no reason...

if kawhi had a problem with roster and players, he shouldve ask pop when he sign that max extension...seriously why did they gave enrique 45/3 ...i think that was the last straw, pop continue to hand out stupid money to vets at the expense of younger developed players around kawhi moving forward...

[spursparker9]

The Raptors success in the playoffs against very flawed teams does not change ANYTHING regarding the underhanded dealings of KL, his group, Uncle Fester (I mean Uncle Dennis) and Impact Sports. The National and local media simply is not interested in what actually happened - I just wish someone in the media would actually challenge KL with real questions on why he passed on playing in the 2018 AND 2017 playoffs for the Spurs. He was cleared to play for months and just walked away from the team last year.

He was actually injured for a period of time in 2017 with the ankle, so I think I could buy that, but the 9 game 2018 season was a disgusting display by the Nephew.

He will have to be on the podium at the press conferences during the Finals. It would be nice to a straight answer out of that guy for once. Probably won't happen, the media will drink the alternative universe Kool-Aid peddled by the "group".

Nah, the media don't care about what happened in 2018 with the Spurs. The media would rather asking questions to get a better sensing where he will be headed (Clipper or Lakers or remain in Toronto).

[Genovaswitness]

does RC make the call to try to go after kawhi?

[Keepin' it real]

If anything, I hope Kawhi's trip to the finals in his first season in the East will show all the national pundits -- even if they don't admit it publicly -- that that LeBron's consecutive finals streak coming out of the East was mostly a cake walk!

GTFO once and for all with the MJ comparisons.

[RC_Drunkford]

So apparently Kawhi just wants to go to LA cause weed is legal there and he likes to smoke

[Johojowhite]

The fact that Kawhi’s sister called the guy that said “they know he ain’t going to be there next year” a hater is evidence that Kawhi has already let his family know he’s going to stay in Toronto and continue being a Raptor.

[RD2191]

So apparently Kawhi just wants to go to LA cause weed is legal there and he likes to smoke

:lol

[TheGoatishere]

The fact that Kawhi’s sister called the guy that said “they know he ain’t going to be there next year” a hater is evidence that Kawhi has already let his family know he’s going to stay in Toronto and continue being a Raptor.

or maybe they just don’t wanna make it seem like his mind is already made up ?

i think he does stay tho

[John B]

Hopefully Kawhi realizes what a cakewalk the east is and stays there. Could be the only silver lining here.
Toronto is the new Cleveland/Miami or the new Lebron of the East. I wouldn’t be surprised if some ringchasers start heading there next year and create another monster team. Kawhi would be a fool to leave Toronto for uncertain future in either team in LA and loaded West

[Ibleedslvrnblk]

Still talking about KL? Get over it ...Baby come back, I missed you. I dont care you blew the whole football team, I still love you. Calling the team soft? Look at you guys ..

[soxxx]

Toronto is the new Cleveland/Miami or the new Lebron of the East. I wouldn’t be surprised if some ringchasers start heading there next year and create another monster team. Kawhi would be a fool to leave Toronto for uncertain future in either team in LA and loaded West
Durant will hop over if he loses to them.

[Johojowhite]

:lol
Funny because weed is legal in Toronto too. :rollin

[loveforthegame]

And people thought it was going to be the other way around. The series changed once Leonard started guarding Giannis.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MicahAdams13/status/1132643998571663367

https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1132633282020106241

https://mobile.twitter.com/_kishanmistry/status/1132491647068119041

[timvp]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MicahAdams13/status/1132643998571663367

He might have? Not even in the same universe. Nephew was still a role player in 2014, sucked in the first two games and he didn't even really slow LeBron that much.

He's a superstar now who just destroyed the MVP.

What a stupid tweet.

[DPG21920]

He might have? Not even in the same universe. Nephew was still a role player in 2014, sucked in the first two games and he didn't even really slow LeBron that much.

He's a superstar now who just destroyed the MVP.

What a stupid tweet.

Kawhi did well offensively in that series but the Bron stopper stuff was a bit overblown

With what you know, what odds would you give TOR of keeping Kawhi?

[timvp]

With what you know, what odds would you give TOR of keeping Kawhi?

If he wears short sleeves in their championship parade, he's staying.

[John B]

If he wears short sleeves in their championship parade, he's staying.
Wow. There’s a big difference between what he should and what he actually would end up doing. But he has the whole nation behind him, 1st NBA finals appearance. He could really cement himself as best player with easier path to the finals, especially when ring chasers start following him over aging Durant. He’d be the new Lebron of the East tbh

[Jordan Jackson]

The NBA loves a good storylines.

Curry going back to the city he grew up in to win a championship. Can't make this shit up.

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/1132687291045044226

[K...]

So the way i see it : signing Kawhi means you have to assign someone to suck uncle's dick 24/7. Now you as a casual fan won't be called up for this. And this is uncle's dick, you never get to suck off Kawhi. Now maybe you don't care about those terms, but if you were in the teams chair, would you do it?

It's funny that spursfans piled on the lavar ball saga but hate that their team didn't suck up to their uncle/daddy

Solid life advice is never to date someone above your station. IT's too risky. The spurs just doing their version of this dating humble girls who work hard to please. Given what San Antonio is, this is par for the course.

If you look at the lists of superstars who bailed on a team vs stayed the former exceeds the latter. Given that the spurs aren't FA powerhouse the odds are that we'd be and will continue to be screwed. The fact that, during the Duncan era, we didn't need to attract superstars didn't change that.

Really, the spurs getting 2/3 superstars (or 4/5 if you include Gino and tony, i don't because its clear they were following the Duncan meal ticket) is beating the odds.

And as always remember, the spur's number one goal is to sell Season tickets to casual fans and businesses, not please your thirsty asses.

[SpursFamo]

If there is a God (Greek god in Giannis' case), Load Management will lose tonight. If that piece of shit wins, this is a fucked up world, tbh.

Issa fucked up world :lmao

[SpursFamo]

Spurs Front Office traded a Generational Talent for a Great Value Kobe with acne


Hate to see it


:lmao

[Johojowhite]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7dr64wXsAUIGB4.jpg

[blizz]

Fuck Kawitter

[dbreiden83080]

Spurs Front Office traded a Generational Talent for a Great Value Kobe with acne


Hate to see it


:lmao

This is the pitch on number 2 when he was traded..

Quits on the team
Fakes injuries
Won't play through pain
Only wants to play in LA
His Uncle acts like Lavar Ball..

Spurs were lucky the offer was not a Tic-Tac and a bag of chips.

[lmbebo]

https://nypost.com/2019/05/26/kawhi-leonards-sister-deletes-video-saying-hes-leaving-raptors/

[SpursFamo]

This is the pitch on number 2 when he was traded..

Quits on the team
Fakes injuries
Won't play through pain
Only wants to play in LA
His Uncle acts like Lavar Ball..

Spurs were lucky the offer was not a Tic-Tac and a bag of chips.

And yet we have seen him play through pain/injury for a team he supposedly didn't care for, and led them to their first NBA Finals....

Sooo all those narratives about him created by his haters were all fake...go figure :lmao

[Siski]

And yet we have seen him play through pain/injury for a team he supposedly didn't care for, and led them to their first NBA Finals....

Sooo all those narratives about him created by his haters were all flakes...go figure :lmao


No, the point is that is what other front offices would have understood about Kawhi at the time of the trade. Whether true or not, that was the general perception around the league and you can’t deny that. So it is difficult to see how the spurs front office could’ve swung a better trade at the time.

[loveforthegame]

jTGd0oUcQ-Y

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[SpursFamo]

No, the point is that is what other front offices would have understood about Kawhi at the time of the trade. Whether true or not, that was the general perception around the league and you can’t deny that. So it is difficult to see how the spurs front office could’ve swung a better trade at the time.


Don't you think the Spurs themselves had a hand in created those perceptions about Kawhi? I mean all Pop had to say was "Kawhi is taking time off to get fully healthy, when he is done we will be ready for him". Instead Pop threw shade at him multiple times and called out his "camp" in interviews. Not to mention players like Parker and Manu talking naoto Kawhi in an unfavorable light.

The Spurs did a lot of things wrong which ultimately made him lose Trust for the organization, and he was gone.

[Genovaswitness]

This is the pitch on number 2 when he was traded..

Quits on the team
Fakes injuries
Won't play through pain
Only wants to play in LA
His Uncle acts like Lavar Ball..

Spurs were lucky the offer was not a Tic-Tac and a bag of chips.

which would still be better than the sack of shit we got from toronto

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

https://cdn.nba.net/nba-drupal-prod/styles/landscape/s3/2019-05/kawhi-leonard-poster-dunk-game-6.jpg?itok=PhJ0OUyo

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5150387.1558881737!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/drake-klaw.jpg

[dbreiden83080]

And yet we have seen him play through pain/injury for a team he supposedly didn't care for, and led them to their first NBA Finals....

Sooo all those narratives about him created by his haters were all fake...go figure :lmao

His play this season does not change what he and Uncle did. They purposely derailed his trade value. What he did makes AD and his bullshit in NO look like Sainthood.

[Siski]

Don't you think the Spurs themselves had a hand in created those perceptions about Kawhi? I mean all Pop had to say was "Kawhi is taking time off to get fully healthy, when he is done we will be ready for him". Instead Pop threw shade at him multiple times and called out his "camp" in interviews. Not to mention players like Parker and Manu talking naoto Kawhi in an unfavorable light.

The Spurs did a lot of things wrong which ultimately made him lose Trust for the organization, and he was gone.

I don’t deny that the Spurs had a hand in the situation going south. They played a role in at least letting some of those perceptions about Kawhi take root. But the key factor that they had no control over was Kawhi camp leaking that he would only resign with an LA team. In my opinion that is the single factor that most severely tanked his trade value. I don’t think he and his camp were justified in screwing over the Spurs that way.

Based on the little that we know now, what would you have done differently if you were running the front office?

[slick'81]

Gl in the finals kawhi! I called him going to the finals when he was first traded

[dbreiden83080]

Don't you think the Spurs themselves had a hand in created those perceptions about Kawhi? I mean all Pop had to say was "Kawhi is taking time off to get fully healthy, when he is done we will be ready for him". Instead Pop threw shade at him multiple times and called out his "camp" in interviews. Not to mention players like Parker and Manu talking naoto Kawhi in an unfavorable light.

The Spurs did a lot of things wrong which ultimately made him lose Trust for the organization, and he was gone.

You have to accurately remember the whole BS situation. He showed up to camp with this supposed injury. The guy has been on vacation for 4 months, and comes into camp injured. Not even the injury to the ankle that kept him out of the WCF. No this new mysterious injury only he feels.. The Spurs gave him tons of time off for rehab, had him checked out by about 40 doctors. He was cleared to play multiple times and refused to do it.. Guys like Manu and Tony that won 4 rings, playing with Tim going through the playoff battles have no patience for soft ass shit like that.. Nor should they.. And there is nothing here to indicate Number 2 has some great future in front of him. He is still limping around out there having taken 22 Reg season games off.. In 2 or 3 years no telling if he is still elite. Or even where he will be playing?

[Fusternino]

I don’t deny that the Spurs had a hand in the situation going south. They played a role in at least letting some of those perceptions about Kawhi take root. But the key factor that they had no control over was Kawhi camp leaking that he would only resign with an LA team. In my opinion that is the single factor that most severely tanked his trade value. I don’t think he and his camp were justified in screwing over the Spurs that way.

Based on the little that we know now, what would you have done differently if you were running the front office?

There's two teams in LA. Force them into a bidding war to secure getting Kawhi summer 2018 rather than having to beg him to sign the following summer.

[LkrFan]

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“I think it just became a lack of trust,” Robertson told Yahoo Sports. “They didn’t believe Kawhi couldn’t play and that caused a lack of trust in us and then us not believing in them. Any time a player says he’s not capable of playing, you should believe him. Why would Kawhi just stop playing all of a sudden? He’s a competitor. Sometimes you get these team doctors telling you what you can and cannot do, and Kawhi was just in too much pain to get out there. This was a serious issue. They didn’t believe him, and after that, the relationship couldn’t recover and we decided we had to move on.”

:corn:

[Mikeanaro]

Gl in the finals kawhi! I called him going to the finals when he was first traded
Was that a very hard call? he went to the East, to a 60 win team that already went to the EC the year before.

[JeffDuncan]

...
Based on the little that we know now, what would you have done differently if you were running the front office?

I'd hope I would have found a trade that would have gained the team some cap space, or some other benefit, instead of losing money on the deal.

Leonard would have cost the Spurs 21.3 million this season. DDR cost them 27.7 million. PATFO traded Leonard for an inferior player who was more expensive. That's the cherry on top of the whole mess.

[Dejounte]

Sure, Uncle Dennis, it wasnt about your nephew not supporting his team through obstacles.

[bklynspursfan]

He did want to be here... He was playing... Pop shut him down after 9 games... Kawhi didn't stop himself.... Then when rehabbing, all the Spurs vets start throwing shots in the media (what happened to class?) what

Kawhi shut himself down

[bklynspursfan]

U realize that was just a random person saying that right?

Yea you're right. Kawhi's sister hasn't ever lied before on social media. If it was, why delete the video

[bklynspursfan]

1132776202895208449


:corn:

He's playing thru the same injury now :rollin aka, it was possible for him to play last year.

[Dejounte]

Yea you're right. Kawhi's sister hasn't ever lied before on social media. If it was, why delete the video
What video? What are yall talking about?

[Degoat]

I still call BS, if it was mistrust over the injury why couldn’t Kawhi do an ESPN interview with Rachel Nichols or something and be like I wanna be out there with my teammates but I’ve got to get this injury right first etc.

[LkrFan]

What video? What are yall talking about?

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You can faintly hear Uncle Fester in the background :lol

[LkrFan]

He's playing thru the same injury now :rollin aka, it was possible for him to play last year.

Team physicians have the team's best interests at heart, not the player's.

Pop, albeit he was frustrated, should have never publicly berated Kiwi and should have stood by him. I doubt he would have ever wanted to leave San Antonio.

But instead, he treated Kiwi like he was Boban. Pop's ego and elitism is why your 2nd best player in Spurs history left.

[JeffDuncan]

You can faintly hear Uncle Fester in the background :lol

No, that can't be the uncle because the sister is in Cali and the uncle is in Toronto.

[LkrFan]

No, that can't be the uncle because the sister is in Cali and the uncle is in Toronto.

My bad :lol

[Truth4sale$]

Congratulations Kawhi
Still a Spur, and you are missed.
Kawhi (himself) has never taken shots at the Spurs(Popovich, Parker, Manu ) like the Spurs did to him.

[K...]

Congratulations Kawhi
Still a Spur, and you are missed.
Kawhi (himself) has never taken shots at the Spurs(Popovich, Parker, Manu ) like the Spurs did to him.

He's the mute cancer, he ain't talk to anyone.

[Rosewood]

I'm over it now, it is what it is.

Hope Kawhi beats those bitches in the finals tbh.

[EP Money Man]

GS in 3

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

1132499981917536257

You can faintly hear Uncle Fester in the background :lol
Uncle Dennis is in Toronto. She clarified in her comments that it was a "hater" at a kids birthday party she was at. Also said she didn't know who the person was, just some random parent. She called the guy a hater again in a different message. Kawhi is staying in Toronto.

[kobe4life]

Uncle Dennis is in Toronto. She clarified in her comments that it was a "hater" at a kids birthday party she was at. Also said she didn't know who the person was, just some random parent. She called the guy a hater again in a different message. Kawhi is staying in Toronto.

He's going to LA. He's either going to be a Clipper or Laker. Just enjoy the 1 championship he's going to bring you. You guys are his one night stand and then he's out.

[Realdeal1]

Uncle Dennis talking shit AFTER kawhi makes the finals just to stick it to the Spurs one more time .. asshole ... I hope the warriors beat kawhi and then kawhi leaves Toronto exposing his original intentions this whole time

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

https://i.redd.it/yy39zyn26m031.jpg

[Geo210SpursSanAnto.]

Congrats to # 2... Does not change the fact hes a bitch made pussy, and all you #2 fans get off a SPURS forum and hop on the dinosaurs bandwagon, bootyhole eaters...

[Budkin]

Uncle Dennis talking shit AFTER kawhi makes the finals just to stick it to the Spurs one more time .. asshole ... I hope the warriors beat kawhi and then kawhi leaves Toronto exposing his original intentions this whole time

That’s exactly what is going to happen. And I’m going to enjoy it.

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

https://i2.wp.com/www.falkensports.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Kawhi-Leonard-celebrates-after-winning-the-Eastern-Conference-Finals-e1558846955416.jpeg?fit=680%2C501&ssl=1

[Killakobe81]

I'd hope I would have found a trade that would have gained the team some cap space, or some other benefit, instead of losing money on the deal.

Leonard would have cost the Spurs 21.3 million this season. DDR cost them 27.7 million. PATFO traded Leonard for an inferior player who was more expensive. That's the cherry on top of the whole mess.

I been said this..
It has nothing to do with Lakers
You secure their best young asset if you gonna ttrade a legit superstar, take on more salary abd only get a mediocre pick in return.
PATFO excuse makers can spin this positive all they want but yall didn't get close to enough.

[99 Problems]

talking LA as destination.

Boston and Philly hesitant to trade

He’s still heading to rancho Cali. Nothing has changed. Winning a few games changes nothing. Good luck to Raptors hope they win it. Always liked their crowds tbh..

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

RC was probably texting and driving timvp to shut this slander down tbh

That explains Pop getting a passing grade the entire first round series :lmao

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Even in the worst case scenario You still don't trade him for that deal(you trade him only for a bigtime future asset like Zion), you keep him for his final year(spurs had power to make him play out the season), try your best to keep him and at the end if he's out he's out, you go rebuild... No need to over smart things, pop should be ashamed and put down his keys!!!

This 100%

[TDomination]

Remember this woj bomb? I remember pop saying he didn’t know about this.

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[TDomination]

Double post

[SpurPadre]

What a nightmare scenario to have to root for the fucking Dubs because of this piece of shit.

[daslicer]

What a nightmare scenario to have to root for the fucking Dubs because of this piece of shit.

The silver lining is this series is going to be first ever that I will be able to enjoy Draymond's dirty play. Looking forward his eye pokes, nut kicks, elbows, hand breaker move.

[Realdeal1]

A few weeks ago I was glad boogie and Durant went down with injuries and now I'm praying for them to come back for the finals ... :bang:rollin

[LkrFan]

Pop tryna make the trade payoff:
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Caption
Kerr: tell me about Kawhi's weaknesses

:lol

[SpurPadre]

The silver lining is this series is going to be first ever that I will be able to enjoy Draymond's dirty play. Looking forward his eye pokes, nut kicks, elbows, hand breaker move.

As long as he does all that to Load Management, tbh. Too bad they no longer have Zaza, though.

[SpurPadre]

Pop tryna make the trade payoff:
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Caption
Kerr: tell me about Kawhi's weaknesses

:lol

Pop: Clip that faggot in the knees for me. You know you owe me!

Kerr: Yes, master.

[daslicer]

As long as he does all that to Load Management, tbh. Too bad they no longer have Zaza, though.

I can't stand Lowry,Siakam,Ibaka,#2. I know he's going to get at least one of those guys if not all of them. Zaza would be useful in this series but they still have Bogut whose also pretty dirty. He'll set some dirty screens in the spot minutes he gets to play.

[SpurPadre]

I can't stand Lowry,Siakam,Ibaka,#2. I know he's going to get at least one of those guys if not all of them. Zaza would be useful in this series but they still have Bogut whose also pretty dirty. He'll set some dirty screens in the spot minutes he gets to play.

As much as I hate Curry's incessant showboating, I'm looking forward to it against this fucker.

[SpurPadre]

Do any of you think the media will dig up Durant's take about Load Management being a system player?

[99 Problems]

:pop: Done......They wanted me to take Boogie long term, but it always Bogut for me.

[daslicer]

Do any of you think the media will dig up Durant's take about Load Management being a system player?

Absolutely. They will even ask both players about the comments just to stir up drama.

[daslicer]

As much as I hate Curry's incessant showboating, I'm looking forward to it against this fucker.

Agreed. I have never liked Curry,Dray,Klay's showboating but in this series I will enjoy it.

[gilmor2002]

I think it will be a sweep..

[cpds421]

He's going to LA. He's either going to be a Clipper or Laker. Just enjoy the 1 championship he's going to bring you. You guys are his one night stand and then he's out.

Clippers. Nobody wants to play in that roster full of drama queens:lmao

[TheGoatishere]

I think it will be a sweep..

doubt it , Golden state might struggle in the half court at times

[jermaine]

They video of Kawhi's sister on IG live an his uncle being heard saying they know he leaving next yr anyways.

[RC_Drunkford]

All I know is Kawhi will average 40. This will probably be the best Kawhi we've ever seen. Hope I'm wrong though, maybe that tendon finally snaps

[Realdeal1]

I think it's funny kawhi 's sister is getting trolled for that Instagram live video :rollinshe went into damage control after people assumed that was uncle Dennis ' voice in the video

[Harry Callahan]

Do any of you think the media will dig up Durant's take about Load Management being a system player?

Yes.

[Dejounte]

I think it's funny kawhi 's sister is getting trolled for that Instagram live video :rollinshe went into damage control after people assumed that was uncle Dennis ' voice in the video

Why do people think its the uncle anyway?

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Toronto is going to make this a more competitive series than people think. I can see them winning if Durant doesn’t come back some what healthy also.

[LkrFan]

Pop tryna make the trade payoff:
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Kerr: tell me about Kawhi's weaknesses

:lol

:lol

[LkrFan]

All I know is Kawhi will average 40. This will probably be the best Kawhi we've ever seen. Hope I'm wrong though, maybe that tendon finally snaps

You think he scoring 40 on "skinny" Donkey? :wow

[Big Empty]

All I know is Kawhi will average 40. This will probably be the best Kawhi we've ever seen. Hope I'm wrong though, maybe that tendon finally snaps Goldenstate has the self proclaimed Defensive GOAT. Lol we’re gonna see. I even with Thompson & Green defending Kawhi, i still expect him to have a great series. Dude is in the same breath as Jordan/Kobe/James now.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlUctHEWISs

The black guy saying that Spurs players trusted team doctors who said that Nephew could play, and hence confronted Nephew which lead to the crack as Nephew was really injured.

[RC_Drunkford]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlUctHEWISs

The black guy saying that Spurs players trusted team doctors who said that Nephew could play, and hence confronted Nephew which lead to the crack as Nephew was really injured.

The black guy is Cris Carter aka Uncle Dennis' spokesman who works with his "agency". Of course he's gon say that. They might've done that, but he definitely wasn't injured. And of course people gon ask him if he's really injured if he keeps giving them dates when he'll be back and then doesn't come to play

[Harry Callahan]

Cris Carter is a whore for Impact Sports and Mitch Frankel. He is nothing more than a washed up locker room lawyer who never won anything in the NFL and is backing his "boys" up. He is a a shill for his people.

He throws out misdiagnosis again but then in the same sentence he says the guys quad has been injured the last three games. You can't have it both ways. Some of these ex athletes/"media" people are so completely stupid.

Carter is apparently the arbiter of "Truth" now. All the Spurs fault. #2 and his group din do nothing and are pure as driven snow I guess. What an insufferable group of scumbags.

[RC_Drunkford]

Goldenstate has the self proclaimed Defensive GOAT. Lol we’re gonna see. I even with Thompson & Green defending Kawhi, i still expect him to have a great series. Dude is in the same breath as Jordan/Kobe/James now.

Kawhi is the defensive GOAT and NOBODY can guard him 1-on-1. The last person to lock down Kawhi was Andre Roberson in 2016

[K...]

Kawhi is the defensive GOAT and NOBODY can guard him 1-on-1. The last person to lock down Kawhi was Andre Roberson in 2016

Quad degeneration did a good job in the 2018 playoffs.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

The black guy is Cris Carter aka Uncle Dennis' spokesman who works with his "agency". Of course he's gon say that. They might've done that, but he definitely wasn't injured. And of course people gon ask him if he's really injured if he keeps giving them dates when he'll be back and then doesn't come to play

I think Kawhi was injured but I don’t think it was as bad as he made it seemed.

I agree with you that the whole reason the locker room approached him and Pop said ask his people is because they truly didn’t know what the hell was going on. It’s video and tweet wise documented that when Pop said Kawhi isn’t going to come back for the rest of the season then Woj tweeted that Kawhi’s people said he might come back. It was like that all season.

It’s frustrating watching these shows because “first things 1st” and “undisputed” never brings these facts up. Skip and Chris Carter are both just loudly saying stuff to support their side but not even using facts. Skip is the worse because he is a Spurs fan but is coming off like a jilted lover and saying silly stuff instead of pointing out the facts. His actions make himself and the fan base look silly.

[RC_Drunkford]

I think Kawhi was injured but I don’t think it was as bad as he made it seemed.

I agree with you that the whole reason the locker room approached him and Pop said ask his people is because they truly didn’t know what the hell was going on. It’s video and tweet wise documented that when Pop said Kawhi isn’t going to come back for the rest of the season then Woj tweeted that Kawhi’s people said he might come back. It was like that all season.

It’s frustrating watching these shows because “first things 1st” and “undisputed” never brings these facts up. Skip and Chris Carter are both just loudly saying stuff to support their side but not even using facts. Skip is the worse because he is a Spurs fan but is coming off like a jilted lover and saying silly stuff instead of pointing out the facts. His actions make himself and the fan base look silly.

It was about playing through pain. The same pain he was dealing with playing this playoff series

[Harry Callahan]

I think Kawhi was injured but I don’t think it was as bad as he made it seemed.

I agree with you that the whole reason the locker room approached him and Pop said ask his people is because they truly didn’t know what the hell was going on. It’s video and tweet wise documented that when Pop said Kawhi isn’t going to come back for the rest of the season then Woj tweeted that Kawhi’s people said he might come back. It was like that all season.

It’s frustrating watching these shows because “first things 1st” and “undisputed” never brings these facts up. Skip and Chris Carter are both just loudly saying stuff to support their side but not even using facts. Skip is the worse because he is a Spurs fan but is coming off like a jilted lover and saying silly stuff instead of pointing out the facts. His actions make himself and the fan base look silly.

Cris Carter's agent (or former agent) is #2's current agent and he is protecting his group. That's all - there is an agenda for Carter that is obvious. Bayless is more of an actor playing a roll that generates ratings. I'm not even sure he actually likes the SAS's as much as you might think.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Cris Carter's agent (or former agent) is #2's current agent and he is protecting his group. That's all - there is an agenda for Carter that is obvious. Bayless is more of an actor playing a roll that generates ratings. I'm not even sure he actually likes the SAS's as much as you might think.

I know Chris Carter Is their public mouth piece because of business dealings. I just hate the fact that he isn’t being challenged smartly by Nick Wright or any of the folks covering the NBA that come on that show. This is their job to cover the league and it’s hot topics and it seems most don’t know shit.

Of course it’s for ratings and it’s easier to get ratings when you can evoke strong emotions but man it could lead to a better show if it was people with differing opinions that was smart enough to point out holes in the other debaters argument.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Cris Carter's agent (or former agent) is #2's current agent and he is protecting his group. That's all - there is an agenda for Carter that is obvious. Bayless is more of an actor playing a roll that generates ratings. I'm not even sure he actually likes the SAS's as much as you might think.

And unless things have changed, #2 is that agent's ONLY client, and is a former NFL agent now working out of his car.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCW822yv0IQ

[Russ]

This morning seems to be the beginning of NBA Finals build up. All the sports shows are running with the Kawhi-Spurs story full bore and I can see that continuing at least until Game One.

As I posted in another thread, Stephen A. Smith on First Take says "the Spurs look very bad today."

"For that stuff to be said right now, with Uncle Dennis coming out and publicly stating it the way that he did, that is not a good look for the San Antonio Spurs, there's no way around that."

Max Kellerman adds, "the San Antonio Spurs were imperfect, they made a miscalculation. . . Kawhi Leonard was hurt"

Kellerman contrasts the way Toronto handled Kawhi with "load management."

Kellerman further notes that Danny Green stuck up for Kawhi regarding "the team meeting" then Green also got shipped off to Toronto.

"The way they handled it, it seems to me, was wrong and I think Kawhi is proving that right now."

[LkrFan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlUctHEWISs

The black guy saying that Spurs players trusted team doctors who said that Nephew could play, and hence confronted Nephew which lead to the crack as Nephew was really injured.

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[daslicer]

I know Chris Carter Is their public mouth piece because of business dealings. I just hate the fact that he isn’t being challenged smartly by Nick Wright or any of the folks covering the NBA that come on that show. This is their job to cover the league and it’s hot topics and it seems most don’t know shit.

Of course it’s for ratings and it’s easier to get ratings when you can evoke strong emotions but man it could lead to a better show if it was people with differing opinions that was smart enough to point out holes in the other debaters argument.

Guys like Nick and the rest of today's media are just puppets for these players. It's there job to distort the facts and promote these guys and not destroy them as people. The network Fox Sports which Nick works for is a partner with the NBA just like ESPN is a partner of the NBA. No way are these networks going to badmouth a major product of their business partner ala the NBA. Just look at it how the NBA got ESPN not to release a damning story on Magic Johnson because of fear of what it would have done to Magic's reputation.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Guys like Nick and the rest of today's media are just puppets for these players. It's there job to distort the facts and promote these guys and not destroy them as people. The network Fox Sports which Nick works for is a partner with the NBA just like ESPN is a partner of the NBA. No way are these networks going to badmouth a major product of their business partner ala the NBA. Just look at it how the NBA got ESPN not to release a damning story on Magic Johnson because of fear of what it would have done to Magic's reputation.

Oh, I some what agree with your statement but guys like Michael Wright who works for ESPN or Ramona Shelborne who have put out info on players and front office types that is revealing and scathing. Ms. Shelborne just did an article ripping Magic and Mr. Wright stated the factual evidence on some of the Kawhi drama.

[daslicer]

Oh, I some what agree with your statement but guys like Michael Wright who works for ESPN or Ramona Shelborne who have put out info on players and front office types that is revealing and scathing. Ms. Shelborne just did an article ripping Magic and Mr. Wright stated the factual evidence on some of the Kawhi drama.

I remember Michael Wright originally saying the Uncle was all at fault for causing the problems and he has a lot of dirt on Uncle Dennis. Notice how now Wright says it's 50-50 on both sides. I believe ESPN threatened Wright not to release any more dirt that makes #2 and his camp look bad. I haven't read Shelbourne's article on Magic but I wonder if it paints Magic as terrible manager because there was originally a story that was going to come about of how Magic was an abusing boss. ESPN immediately canned that story so I bet you the Shelbourne story is not as damaging as the original story on magic would have been.

[dbreiden83080]

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The Spurs During the runs of David, Tim, Manu and Tony treated the star players like family.. Suddenly we treated Number 2 like shit out of nowhere right? Such bullshit from the talking heads..

[RC_Drunkford]

I'd definitely advise people to go back and listen to the back 2 back podcast again

https://backtobackpod.libsyn.com/ner...chael-c-wright (https://backtobackpod.libsyn.com/nerder-she-wrote-kawhi-drama-with-michael-c-wright)


Michael C. Wright gives a lot of insider info here:

- Uncle Dennis' demands were RIDICULOUS and UNREALISTIC and the stories that occured with him in the mix are CRAZY and UNBELIEVABLE. So nothing common, just real LaVar Ball shit, if not worse (like hiding from Spurs staff, walking to the ASG through Mardi Gras, etc.)

- He says the relationship went south when Kawhi went to China and the Spurs lost connection to him. They weren't able to reach him anymore. This makes me think that that's probably the point where Uncle Dennis realized how big of a star Kawhi is and came up with the plan to get him to a bigger market

- He says the original thigh contusion stems from March 2016 against the Heat. Kawhi missed 3 games and came back playing looking healthy. I doubt that that was a misdiagnosis that had an effect on his quad 2 years later

- Says Spurs couldn't even find out if their rehab process worked cause they handed over the rehab process to Kawhi's team

- Spurs went out of their way handing over the rehab process to his team and should NOT have done it in hindsight. They gave his team an inch and they took off and went a mile. It's also absolutely not common for an organization to do something like that

- Spurs shielded Kawhi from media and Pop saying "him and his group" was due to Pop really not knowing ANYTHING about how Kawhi's rehab went. Those narratives are just being used as excuses to get out by Kawhi's camp

- Kawhi's team kept announcing dates publicly and to the Spurs on when he will be back. The last one was the home game against NOLA which was also the day of the TEAM PICTURE. So certainly a hoax and just some bullshit to piss the Spurs off even further which then caused the team meeting

- Spurs still wanted to fix the relationship but couldn't get to Kawhi

- Even when he said he wants to be traded they still wanted to keep him

- They asked for the world in trade talks


So all in all I can't really see anything they could've done different. Maybe not handing over the rehab process to Kawhi's team could've prevented all of this, but that's a long shot. They did everything they could do to keep him

[Russ]

Fasten your seat belts, it looks like the Spurs are relevant again . . .

[daslicer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCW822yv0IQ

:lol at them using Jax as a credible source. At first they say he has an axe to grind with the Spurs but at the same time stresses that Jax is not a liar. That shows to me how silly these clowns are. They are really puppets of their ESPN bosses.

[Harry Callahan]

B-B-B-B
Now the "experts" (Sharpe) is stating that KL is going to need 15-25 games off every year going forward to make it through a season but he must be paid a Max Contract. So, how is there a misdiagnosis of a chronic medical condition? This guy is not injured in that he tore a muscle or tendon.

The team he signs with next year will not be able to ask their employee to play back to back games. Period. What a crock. Cris "Mr. Integrity" Carter the Impact Sports shill needs a good New Jersey style visit to set him straight. Once again I find it incredible that absolute morons that can't put two sentences together get these highly paid gigs.

Cris Carter was snorting coke and drinking himself out of football in his day. Yeah - what a role model.

[daslicer]

A small point -- Wright works for Fox Sports not ESPN.

According to google he is listed as an Spurs ESPN reporter. He could work for both Fox Sports and ESPN. Anyways both networks are business partners of the NBA.

[FkLA]

I'd definitely advise people to go back and listen to the back 2 back podcast again

https://backtobackpod.libsyn.com/ner...chael-c-wright (https://backtobackpod.libsyn.com/nerder-she-wrote-kawhi-drama-with-michael-c-wright)


Michael C. Wright gives a lot of insider info here:

- Uncle Dennis' demands were RIDICULOUS and UNREALISTIC and the stories that occured with him in the mix are CRAZY and UNBELIEVABLE. So nothing common, just real LaVar Ball shit, if not worse (like hiding from Spurs staff, walking to the ASG through Mardi Gras, etc.)

- He says the relationship went south when Kawhi went to China and the Spurs lost connection to him. They weren't able to reach him anymore. This makes me think that that's probably the point where Uncle Dennis realized how big of a star Kawhi is and came up with the plan to get him to a bigger market

- He says the original thigh contusion stems from March 2016 against the Heat. Kawhi missed 3 games and came back playing looking healthy. I doubt that that was a misdiagnosis that had an effect on his quad 2 years later

- Says Spurs couldn't even find out if their rehab process worked cause they handed over the rehab process to Kawhi's team

- Spurs went out of their way handing over the rehab process to his team and should NOT have done it in hindsight. They gave his team an inch and they took off and went a mile. It's also absolutely not common for an organization to do something like that

- Spurs shielded Kawhi from media and Pop saying "him and his group" was due to Pop really not knowing ANYTHING about how Kawhi's rehab went. Those narratives are just being used as excuses to get out by Kawhi's camp

- Kawhi's team kept announcing dates publicly and to the Spurs on when he will be back. The last one was the home game against NOLA which was also the day of the TEAM PICTURE. So certainly a hoax and just some bullshit to piss the Spurs off even further which then caused the team meeting

- Spurs still wanted to fix the relationship but couldn't get to Kawhi

- Even when he said he wants to be traded they still wanted to keep him

- They asked for the world in trade talks


So all in all I can't really see anything they could've done different. Maybe not handing over the rehab process to Kawhi's team could've prevented all of this, but that's a long shot. They did everything they could do to keep him


What's really annoying is that Wright all of a sudden completely changed his tune. After that podcast, he did a timvp and stated that there were even juicier tidbits that he would reveal once this blew over a little more. Yet the last tweet I saw from a him a couple days ago was something along the lines of "just a big misunderstanding, noone's fault really". :rolleyes

[FkLA]

According to google he is listed as an Spurs ESPN reporter. He could work for both Fox Sports and ESPN. Anyways both networks are business partners of the NBA.

His contract just ended (or will end this Summer) with ESPN IIRC. Maybe he has a deal with Fox Sports afterwards but definitely not working for both at the same.

[Rusty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roRon07GXWc

[daslicer]

His contract just ended (or will end this Summer) with ESPN IIRC. Maybe he has a deal with Fox Sports afterwards but definitely not working for both at the same.

Either way it seems like this guy has been silenced by the powers that be from telling the truth. To me it's real sketch how he has changed his mind several times about this. First he blamed Uncle Dennis for all of this and then he said it's 50-50 and now like you said in a previous post he has stated that it's nobody's fault.

[weebo]

The Spurs During the runs of David, Tim, Manu and Tony treated the star players like family.. Suddenly we treated Number 2 like shit out of nowhere right? Such bullshit from the talking heads..

Exactly...maybe they should go ask past and present players how the Spurs handle injuries...I call bullshit...just wish Tim would come out in defense of the Spurs and set the record straight because no one would question the validity of his words.

[Russ]

His contract just ended (or will end this Summer) with ESPN IIRC. Maybe he has a deal with Fox Sports afterwards but definitely not working for both at the same.

I was wrong -- I was thinking about Nick Wright working for Fox.

[daslicer]

Exactly...maybe they should go ask past and present players how the Spurs handle injuries...I call bullshit...just wish Tim would come out in defense of the Spurs and set the record straight because no one would question the validity of his words.

The media has always hated Tim. They would find a way to tear him down especially when it comes to propping up #2. I also believe Tim is aware of this and thus would not want to deal with all the bs that would follow.

[kobyz]

So it's true that after they missdiagnose Kawhi they also add insult to injury by didn't supporte him and question his integrity when he said he isn't ready and needed to take the year off? The jury might be out on San Antonio

[clown]

Exactly...maybe they should go ask past and present players how the Spurs handle injuries...I call bullshit...just wish Tim would come out in defense of the Spurs and set the record straight because no one would question the validity of his words.

Tim is the only big Spurs who didnt say anything about this situation. And it shows that he is/was the culture.
If others would do the same, Kawhi would probably still be there.

[Harry Callahan]

If the lazy media would listen to Mike C. Wrights comments from last July its pretty clear where the bulk of the issues come from.

Uncle Dennis.
Unprofessional
No Other Clients
conflicts of Interest
Hiding a paid employee

These are damning statements being made and I don't think Mike Wright was making up stuff here.

These ESPN a**holes must be as lazy as a sloth if they don't listen to an ESPN reporter and what he actually saw and dealt with first hand. Kellerman and Screamin' Smith are controlled by ESPN producers who have an agenda to ALWAYS side with the player to a fault.

What a total cluster this is. Just makes me mad. KL is going to be dealing with health issues the rest of what is left of his career - his doctors have been running the medical show for almost TWO years and he still is favoring his leg. I call BS on those fools guiding the player's career.

P*ssing on the Spurs for Sport without the full information is just par for the course with the "media" we have now.

[cpds421]

Tim is the only big Spurs who didnt say anything about this situation. And it shows that he is/was the culture.
If others would do the same, Kawhi would probably still be there.

Why would Tim say anything about Nephew? He’s retired now and probably doesn’t care who goes or who stays in SA.

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Yx9biVsAAYSgs?format=jpg&name=360x360

Crater face trying to give secrets to Kerr on how to defend Kawhi. lol pathetic.

[RC_Drunkford]

“On one side of the situation, there was one guy (Leonard) that was trying to get out, get to a bigger market, and they were totally being up front with him, and then they trade him for a guy (DeRozan) where, that organization wasn’t being upfront with him at all,” Gay said. “So I mean, it’s just night and day. That trade right there shows you the difference between the San Antonio Spurs and other organizations.” (https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-mens-basketball/hc-sp-uconn-men-amore-column-rudy-gay-0807-story.html)

- Rudy Gay -

[clown]

Why would Tim say anything about Nephew? He’s retired now and probably doesn’t care who goes or who stays in SA.

Somebody wanted it.

Davis Robinson have been saying something something last summer.
The question was, if he talked with Kawhi, and he (DRob) answered, that he talked with his uncle.

I hope that Tim will stay away from it.

[RC_Drunkford]

Cris Carter certainly knows a few things about integrity


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wy4LJKOnnc

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5150387.1558881737!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/drake-klaw.jpg

[Harry Callahan]

- Rudy Gay -

Thanks RCD for bringing up the Michael Wright podcast. I think that most of the information coming from him is a lot more balanced than the national media. The San Antonio media has been out to lunch for most of the last ten years. I get nothing from them.

[RC_Drunkford]

Thanks RCD for bringing up the Michael Wright podcast. I think that most of the information coming from him is a lot more balanced than the national media. The San Antonio media has been out to lunch for most of the last ten years. I get nothing from them.

I think he is the most reliable source. He helped Ramona Shelbourne write that article and also leaked some of the Uncle Dennis stories

[Harry Callahan]

I think he is the most reliable source. He helped Ramona Shelbourne write that article and also leaked some of the Uncle Dennis stories

Wright told a few Uncle stories in the podcast but it sounds like he had a lot more of them.......

That's why it is so infuriating here. I'm not sure the Spurs could really account or plan for all of this nonsense and then Nephew goes dark summer of 2017 and it went to hell in a handbasket.

KL did not adequately perform his duties under the player contract either in my view.

[Spurs fever]

I have no idea why the Michael C Wright podcast hasn't been brought up on any of the shows. Speak for yourself, Undisputed, First Take, the Jump, the Herd. No one talked about it.

[RC_Drunkford]

I have no idea why the Michael C Wright podcast hasn't been brought up on any of the shows. Speak for yourself, Undisputed, First Take, the Jump, the Herd. No one talked about it.

because it doesn't fit their narrative. They want Kawhi in LA or NY

[LCM]

It will be interesting, later on this summer, who Michael C Wright ends up working for when his contract with ESPN is over. What is he going to say when ESPN isn't breathing down his neck?

[daslicer]

It will be interesting, later on this summer, who Michael C Wright ends up working for when his contract with ESPN is over. What is he going to say when ESPN isn't breathing down his neck?

Who knows if he will even release the truth afterwards. I'm sure ESPN has power to threaten and make sure he gets blackballed by other media outlets unless Michael decides to work independently.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

because it doesn't fit their narrative. They want Kawhi in LA or NY

Exactly. One of the cohost or radio personalities with some clout is going to have to bring it up for it to get some traction. Maybe Beadle will bring it up if ESPN is doing the finals.

[daslicer]

Exactly. One of the cohost or radio personalities with some clout is going to have to bring it up for it to get some traction. Maybe Beadle will bring it up if ESPN is doing the finals.

Beadle is not going to bring it up. When she went on her emotional rant against #2 last year she was taken off the air for a week. Her corporate masters are not going to allow her to bring it up.

[LCM]

Who knows if he will even release the truth afterwards. I'm sure ESPN has power to threaten and make sure he gets blackballed by other media outlets unless Michael decides to work independently.

There is the possibility of him having to go full freelance, if he's willing to do so. And don't think there aren't sports outlets that won't want to capitalize on a full detailed information story of this whole saga to stick it to ESPN. A true accounting of everything to the present day, including how he was treated by ESPN after the July 5th 2018 podcast, is a story that will sell not only nationally but globally! Michael C Wright plans this right, the rites to the spec story he has to tell is going to be werth a pretty penny.

[Dverde]

If Kiwi gets drafted by Indy, he never makes an all-star game, probably bounces around the league like Aminu. Spurs should get credit for making him the monster he is today. He worked his ass off, but you still gotta get playing time and the proper tutors to upgrade your abilities. The fact Pop called him “the big one” and believed in him early on really helped him achieve the status he has today. I’m past most of the drama. I only wish he didn’t ring while still on his original Spurs deal.

[gambit1990]

If Kiwi gets drafted by Indy, he never makes an all-star game, probably bounces around the league like Aminu.
:td

larry bird would’ve helped kawhi.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Chris Carter is a piece of lying shit

[kobyz]

If Kiwi gets drafted by Indy, he never makes an all-star game, probably bounces around the league like Aminu. Spurs should get credit for making him the monster he is today. He worked his ass off, but you still gotta get playing time and the proper tutors to upgrade your abilities. The fact Pop called him “the big one” and believed in him early on really helped him achieve the status he has today. I’m past most of the drama. I only wish he didn’t ring while still on his original Spurs deal.

No, kawhi is like SF version of Tim Duncan, he would thrive anywhere!

[J_Paco]

No, kawhi is like SF version of Tim Duncan, he would thrive anywhere!

You have absolutely no evidence to suggest that. Nearly every player with his original, raw, unrefined skillset (Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Stanley Johnson, Justise Winslow, etc.) has floundered on lottery teams or not reached his heights.

Yes, he deserves most the credit for working his ass off and being able to develop into a elite level talent, but the coaching/development staff put the pieces in place (changing his stroke, working of his moves, etc.) and in the right framework.

That doesn't mean they can just create "another Leonard," but they can hopefully find another young, untapped wing player and mold into a quality NBA player.

[RC_Drunkford]

If Kiwi gets drafted by Indy, he never makes an all-star game, probably bounces around the league like Aminu. Spurs should get credit for making him the monster he is today. He worked his ass off, but you still gotta get playing time and the proper tutors to upgrade your abilities. The fact Pop called him “the big one” and believed in him early on really helped him achieve the status he has today. I’m past most of the drama. I only wish he didn’t ring while still on his original Spurs deal.

even Uncle Dennis agreed with that. Said Kawhi wouldn't be the player he is if it wasn't for the Spurs after 2014

[Ice009]

B-B-B-B
Now the "experts" (Sharpe) is stating that KL is going to need 15-25 games off every year going forward to make it through a season but he must be paid a Max Contract. So, how is there a misdiagnosis of a chronic medical condition? This guy is not injured in that he tore a muscle or tendon.

The team he signs with next year will not be able to ask their employee to play back to back games. Period. What a crock. Cris "Mr. Integrity" Carter the Impact Sports shill needs a good New Jersey style visit to set him straight. Once again I find it incredible that absolute morons that can't put two sentences together get these highly paid gigs.

Cris Carter was snorting coke and drinking himself out of football in his day. Yeah - what a role model.

I don't know much about Cris Carter, I thought he was regarded as a top NFL receiver. I also assumed he was a clean-cut type of guy. Was he actually snorting coke and drinking during his playing days?

[Uriel]

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[kobyz]

You have absolutely no evidence to suggest that. Nearly every player with his original, raw, unrefined skillset (Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Stanley Johnson, Justise Winslow, etc.) has floundered on lottery teams or not reached his heights.

Yes, he deserves most the credit for working his ass off and being able to develop into a elite level talent, but the coaching/development staff put the pieces in place (changing his stroke, working of his moves, etc.) and in the right framework.

That doesn't mean they can just create "another Leonard," but they can hopefully find another young, untapped wing player and mold into a quality NBA player.

It's all him, it was a natural growth year by year, I said from the start he was a dream draft pick, he fall in the draft only because teams didn't know how to interpret his shyness, spurs didn't have a problem with it because the experience with Timmy

[MichaelBayismyUncle]

https://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.866230:1558846225/07601164.jpg?$p=667dbfc&w=1136&$w=ec52ab9