***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[DAF86]

Kawhi is chucking shamelessly out there. I'm still trying to figure out if it's really out of necessity. I'm leaning towards no, tbh. But, hey, if the Raptors keep winning, you can't say anything.

[slick'81]

Kawhi is chucking shamelessly out there. I'm still trying to figure out if it's really out of necessity. I'm leaning towards no, tbh. But, hey, if the Raptors keep winning, you can't say anything.


Still the 4th to play

[Realdeal1]

Any chance kawhi pulls a Lebron in 4-5 years and returns to San Antonio ( ala Lebron coming back to Cleveland after fuking them with the decision) and rings with the Spurs to make amends??? lol wishful thinking I know

[slick'81]

Any chance kawhi pulls a Lebron in 4-5 years and returns to San Antonio ( ala Lebron coming back to Cleveland after fuking them with the decision) and rings with the Spurs to make amends??? lol wishful thinking I know


Very wishful

[Hoops Czar]

Thanks HH for saying what every single one of us is thinking...

Yes to all three of those hypotheses that you listed in your second paragraph btw.It doesn't have to be an "either/or" situation.

Trying to get a discount on a dude that drove a '97 Chevy Tahoe as a millionaire NBA player ffs.Smh

Fuck him either way though.He still could've gotten his without fucking the team.
They offered him a supermax after he asked to be traded but he basically said to the Spurs "Oh, hell to the no."

[Hoops Czar]

Any chance kawhi pulls a Lebron in 4-5 years and returns to San Antonio ( ala Lebron coming back to Cleveland after fuking them with the decision) and rings with the Spurs to make amends??? lol wishful thinking I know
Why would the Spurs want him then?

[Immortal Spur]

Milwaukee is the best collection of talent i've seen outside of GS over the last 4 years. They could win it all

[Immortal Spur]

Nurse just got out coached severely.

[slick'81]

Milwaukee is the best collection of talent i've seen outside of GS over the last 4 years. They could win it all


What if kawhi beats them?

[Keepin' it real]

Leanord thought he left all the Mexicans behind in San Antonio. Then pinche Lopez comes along to fuck his shit up. :rollin

[slick'81]

Go bucks!

[Immortal Spur]

This must sting for Toronto.. Kawhi played like 40 mins and they still lose. They started the game off great too

[Spurs Homer]

Looks like the quitter needed pop managing his prima donna minutes tonite

lol

[Keepin' it real]

Milwaukee is the best collection of talent i've seen outside of GS over the last 4 years. They could win it all

Nope. Cowherd is not impressed with them, so ...

[Degoat]

No way Lowry has another game like this too lol!:rollin

[timvp]

I didn't know the Bucks signed Matt Barnes, tbh.

[diego]

Leonard has gone and copied the worst parts of Kobe's game. I really think a lot of what happened has to do with Leonard thinking that if he can chuck like a kobe or DeRozan he won't have to play d, less wear and tear, more endorsements and "credit" etc ... The irony is that brings his value way down from the two way efficient scorer he was before, especially if he has to sit out a quarter of the season and is gassed after 36minutes in the playoffs...

[DAF86]

10-26

Kawhi getting his Kobe on these last couple of games.

[TheGreatYacht]

Danny G-League is laughably bad. Can't believe cock suckers here were convinced this faggot was good for the past 4 years

Advanced stats are a farce and the virgins that came up with them should get the electric chair

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Leanord thought he left all the Mexicans behind in San Antonio. Then pinche Lopez comes along to fuck his shit up. :rollin

:lmao Go Bucks!!!!!

[Keepin' it real]

Leanord gonna do load management in game 2? Gotta beware of tendinopathy.

[spursistan]

I didn't know the Bucks signed Matt Barnes, tbh.

or Andre Robertson :lol ..Neph went missing in the entire fourth..


Raps blew a stealable game..Good luck getting another game like that from Lowry

[Spurs fever]

#fearthedeer niggas

[daslicer]

10-26

Kawhi getting his Kobe on these last couple of games.

He's regressing to the mean as Manu would say. Even for a great player shooting 60 percent are higher is fluky and not maintainable.

[spurs10]

Kawhi is chucking shamelessly out there. I'm still trying to figure out if it's really out of necessity. I'm leaning towards no, tbh. But, hey, if the Raptors keep winning, you can't say anything. Didn't work out so well tonight.

[slick'81]

2 points in the 4th:king 0-1

[spursistan]

Danny Green has definitely lost money on his next contract in these playoffs..

[DAF86]

Didn't work out so well tonight.

The Raptors thrived all season long when Kawhi didn't play. I think Nurse and Kawhi are fucking the Raptors over by being so one dimensional. Let the others get involved.

[Mikeanaro]

Danny Green has definitely lost money on his next contract in these playoffs..
He was lucky to get this far, thanks to Pop.
All that club shit and Lebron still never cared about him.

[Rusty]

Kawhi's legs are gone. He's done for this series. He carried the Raptors the first 2 rounds and he's completely out of gas

[99 Problems]

Mid range jumper was invisible. His 3 ball not working. Looked spent in the last. The 2 minutes he sat at the start of the last the Bucks levelled up. Shut Middleton down without too much trouble.

[ZeusWillJudge]

2 points in the 4th:king 0-1


Why the hell did Nurse have Danny shoot that T in the last minute? A chance at a 4 point possession, plus letting his best player see a ball going down. The only reason I can think of is that he thought Kawhi was gassed. He may have to sit Kawhi next game for load management purposes. :lol

[r0drig0lac]

Milwaukee is the best collection of talent i've seen outside of GS over the last 4 years. They could win it all

easily, they are the team with the fewest weaknesses I've seen in years (maybe ever), their depth is absurd, they are destroying the teams physically.



What if kawhi beats them?

Kawhi is one of the best two-way players in basketball history, it could happen (if Lowry continues to play like a star)

[Harry Callahan]

I wonder how many times the Nephew played over 40 minutes in a non-overtime game in the six years he actually played in SA.

It's been two years since he played in a meaningful game for the Spurs and got injured in each of the last two games in played in the POs against Houston and Golden State.

10-26 looked wonderful to me. Keep chuckin' and grindin' those knees and quads up.

[gilmor2002]

Leonard has gone and copied the worst parts of Kobe's game. I really think a lot of what happened has to do with Leonard thinking that if he can chuck like a kobe or DeRozan he won't have to play d, less wear and tear, more endorsements and "credit" etc ... The irony is that brings his value way down from the two way efficient scorer he was before, especially if he has to sit out a quarter of the season and is gassed after 36minutes in the playoffs...

Kawhi played so much better when he was with the Spurs..

[DAF86]

All those years of Pop's over-resting are coming to bite Kawhi in the ass in terms of endurance, tbh. :lol

[Keepin' it real]

Danny Green has definitely lost money on his next contract in these playoffs..

Sounds like a future Spur.

[offset formation]

Kawhi's legs are gone. He's done for this series. He carried the Raptors the first 2 rounds and he's completely out of gas

Yep, I agree. And it should be noted he's doubly fucked. In the last two series, he got like two or even three days off between almost every game. Every game this series is every other day. No way he's gonna perform at a sustainable level while he's getting 40+ minutes per game, which is fucking hilarious because we were told he Load Managed so he was fresh for the playoffs.

I'm expecting a Bucks victory in no more than 5. I fucking love this karma.

[BackHome]

And the man still can’t wipe his own ass

[Budkin]

But that game winner tho!

[Rusty]

it's win-win situation for Kawhi anyway. Win the series, advance to the finals for the first time since 2014.

Get swept, enjoy early vacation and get that max contract on July 1st

[gambit1990]

raps would’ve lost by 200 if they had demar instead.

[exstatic]

Were the Spurs perceived of this status prior to Tim Duncan? Would the Spurs be perceived as the best organization in the world had they not drafted Tim Duncan? Or if Tim had left for Orlando? I think this organization has been pumped up too high with “can do no wrong” status. Tim Duncan has been the main ingredient.

Lets propose this. During free agency with Tim leaning to Orlando, would you offer him/his family 1% ownership stake to keep him? I can’t think of many Spurs fans that would say no.

In this case Kawhi is the second coming of Michael Jordan and from a talent perspective, if the goal is to actually win championships then ownership stake should have been considered. That’s if it was the primary hiccup in retaining him.

When Tim was drafted, the Spurs were already the 3rd best regular season team by win %. They are now 1st, and have only missed the playoffs four times in their history, spanning 43 seasons. The non-Duncan teams averaged 45.4 wins and 36.6 losses, for a win % of .554. The Duncanless Spurs would be 4th all time, behind the actual Spurs, LAL, and Boston.

Oh, and you can stick that second coming bullshit up your ass. MJ would never have sat out most of a season, followed by 25% of the next one. Nephew is a cheap copy of Kobe, who is himself a cheap copy of MJ.

[exstatic]

All those years of Pop's over-resting are coming to bite Kawhi in the ass in terms of endurance, tbh. :lol

Nobody rested Nephew as much as uncle Dickless. What goes around, comes around, bitches.

[DAF86]

Nobody rested Nephew as much as uncle Dickless. What goes around, comes around, bitches.

Uncle load management took him out of full games. I'm talking about in-game resting. When you are not used to playing more than 30-33 mpg, 40 seems like an eternity.

[Mikeanaro]

HE IS INJURED YOU FUCKERS!

[timvp]

Uncle load management took him out of full games. I'm talking about in-game resting. When you are not used to playing more than 30-33 mpg, 40 seems like an eternity.

Raptors lose and it's Pop's fault:lol

You can't make this stuff up.

[Mikeanaro]

Raptors lose and it's Pop's fault:lol

You can't make this stuff up.
It seems Neph never heard about cardio and conditioning, all those compliments he was a gym rat but maybe was only to do biceps and all that good looking shit.
You dont need nice looking guns to play BB, all about legs and breathing.

[SpurPadre]

Good looking out, Coach Bud! Fuck Load Management!

[offset formation]

Raptors lose and it's Pop's fault:lol

You can't make this stuff up.

It's pathological. And often, it's politically motivated.

[spurs10]

Raptors lose and it's Pop's fault:lol

You can't make this stuff up. :lol

[GusT15]

Raptors lose and it's Pop's fault:lol

You can't make this stuff up.

If Pop retires and hires Bud last year to take over from him,he never goes to the Bucks.

The Bucks never get their new system and have a good team contending for the title.

The Bucks don't win tonight.The Raptors don't lose.

Pop's fault.:downspin:

https://media.giphy.com/media/R3S6MfUoKvBVS/giphy.gif

[FlAVaK]

Why the hell did Nurse have Danny shoot that T in the last minute? A chance at a 4 point possession, plus letting his best player see a ball going down. The only reason I can think of is that he thought Kawhi was gassed. He may have to sit Kawhi next game for load management purposes. :lol

Wasn't a T, Danny got fouled before the inbounds :wakeup

[DPG21920]

raps would’ve lost by 200 if they had demar instead.

Still a loss. Still Kawhi couldn’t do any better than DeRozan in terms of how far they got even WITH Lowry balling where he didn’t with DeRozan.

[Twisted_Dawg]

:lol


Raptors lose and it's Pop's fault:lol

You can't make this stuff up.

When are you going to tell us?

[polandprzem]

It seems Neph never heard about cardio and conditioning, all those compliments he was a gym rat but maybe was only to do biceps and all that good looking shit.
You dont need nice looking guns to play BB, all about legs and breathing.

You want to talk to one of the best athletes and s&c coaches?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Wasn't a T, Danny got fouled before the inbounds :wakeup


Yes... and that is called an "away from the play foul". They shoot it like a technical. It's one shot, plus possession, and they get to pick any player on the team to shoot the single FT. It really doesn't make a rat fuck if they call it a T or not, it's the fact that Nurse COULD have let Kawhi shoot the FT. And since Kawhi was 10-10 on FT's at that point, it might have made more sense, don't you think?

Maybe learn the rules before you try to correct people who do?

[offset formation]

Yes... and that is called an "away from the play foul". They shoot it like a technical. It's one shot, plus possession, and they get to pick any player on the team to shoot the single FT. It really doesn't make a rat fuck if they call it a T or not, it's the fact that Nurse COULD have let Kawhi shoot the FT. And since Kawhi was 10-10 on FT's at that point, it might have made more sense, don't you think?

Maybe learn the rules before you try to correct people who do?

Shade.

[RC_Drunkford]

Nephew was gassed in the 4th. Only 2 points. The Bucks play fast, he's not conditioned to play at that pace for 40 minutes. Like I said this is the only team that can guard him, they have a lot of lengthy defenders who can actually contest Kawhi's shots. What surprises me the most is him not defending like he used to. Where are all those break away steals at that he used to have on the regular when he was here? He used to lock up the opposings team best player and make them inefficient while playing elite offense on the other end. I don't really see him doing that anymore

[Harry Callahan]

Nephew can't score like he is scoring in Canada AND defend AND play heavy minutes on top of that. He and his group demand big numbers for his next gig, whereever that is. RCD sees what I do. Neph does not get in the grill of the best offensive player anymore on a regular basis. He plays more passive on defense. Preserving energy for the other end of the court.

Let's not kid ourselves - #2 is playing heavy minutes now and it is his call along with his handlers. Raptors management just nods and says "yessir".

[hater]

Glad to see Mute Cancer choking hard in the 4th

Bitch niga deserves that

[RD2191]

Tough L for the Raps. Can't blame Kawhi, he's been carrying them the entire playoffs.

[RD2191]

Glad to see Mute Cancer choking hard in the 4th

Bitch niga deserves that

Spurms fans know alot about choking tbh

[ZeusWillJudge]

So here's my dream ending to the season, and the offseason:

Kawhi and the Raptors get swept by the Bucks.
Kawhi stalls on deciding where to go next year.
The Clippers say to hell with him, make a trade for Anthony Davis, and live happily ever after.
Uncle Dennis tells Kawhi to go play in the Big Apple.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Tough L for the Raps. Can't blame Kawhi, he's been carrying them the entire playoffs.


LOL. Except when he sat out, and they won without him.

[RD2191]

LOL. Except when he sat out, and they won without him.

Dubs won without KD. What's your point?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Dubs won without KD. What's your point?

Other than getting a salty comeback from you? None, really.

They really did play pretty well without him this season, but he's going to have to carry them if they're going to get past Milwaukee. It's hard to say a guy had a bad game when he puts up 31 and 9, but shooting 38% isn't going to cut it. He's got to have a more efficient Game 2, or the Raptors are in trouble.

[Spurs Homer]

Don't know if anyone noticed - and maybe it is no big deal - but it caught my eye -

in one of the first plays of the game

the Raps turned it over and Giannis went in for a dunk - the quitter - just lazily trotted back - did NOT even challenge

did not sprint

he jogged slowly back and allowed Giannis an uncontested dunk.


In a playoff game - in the first minute or two of the game?

I just immediately felt this was not the same kawhi as when he was a spur.

And before he became - the QUITTER.

[exstatic]

Other than getting a salty comeback from you? None, really.

They really did play pretty well without him this season, but he's going to have to carry them if they're going to get past Milwaukee. It's hard to say a guy had a bad game when he puts up 31 and 9, but shooting 38% isn't going to cut it. He's got to have a more efficient Game 2, or the Raptors are in trouble.

Even in their closeout game 7 last series, he was positively Kobe-esque: 39 FGA for 41 points. He's turned into Carmelo Anthony.

[polandprzem]

Nephew was gassed in the 4th. Only 2 points. The Bucks play fast, he's not conditioned to play at that pace for 40 minutes. Like I said this is the only team that can guard him, they have a lot of lengthy defenders who can actually contest Kawhi's shots. What surprises me the most is him not defending like he used to. Where are all those break away steals at that he used to have on the regular when he was here? He used to lock up the opposings team best player and make them inefficient while playing elite offense on the other end. I don't really see him doing that anymore

Spurs system depends on D more and Pop could use Leonard there. Not only he was fabulous 1-1 defender but great team defender as well. He still is elite though but not all time great which he was 2 years ago.

[Sec24Row7]

When Tim was drafted, the Spurs were already the 3rd best regular season team by win %. They are now 1st, and have only missed the playoffs four times in their history, spanning 43 seasons. The non-Duncan teams averaged 45.4 wins and 36.6 losses, for a win % of .554. The Duncanless Spurs would be 4th all time, behind the actual Spurs, LAL, and Boston.

Oh, and you can stick that second coming bullshit up your ass. MJ would never have sat out most of a season, followed by 25% of the next one. Nephew is a cheap copy of Kobe, who is himself a cheap copy of MJ.

Jordan missed 60 games twice.

Once due to physical injury.

Once due to recovery from mental injury.

[exstatic]

The first instance was a broken leg, I believe, and still doesn't fall into the category of "sitting out a season". There have always been rumors that MJ's mid career sabbaticle was a suspension, on the down low, for gambling.

MJ was a fucking warrior, and to compare Load Management to him in any way is beyond ridiculous.

[cd98]

it's win-win situation for Kawhi anyway. Win the series, advance to the finals for the first time since 2014.

Get swept, enjoy early vacation and get that max contract on July 1st

Yea, either way he gets to move to LA.

[Mikeanaro]

You want to talk to one of the best athletes and s&c coaches?
You tell me, he is the one who cant stand too long on court.
Do you want to question me because he cant even breathe and moves like Robocop?

[ECOV]

Spurms fans know alot about choking tbh

You know a lot about swallowing tbh

[polandprzem]

You tell me, he is the one who cant stand too long on court.
Do you want to question me because he cant even breathe and moves like Robocop?

You seem to watch a different game my friend. It's not like he just dropped and did not do shit out there.

[BackHome]

Karma is a Bitch KY.

[kobyz]

kawhi should go sign with new orleans to form a dynasty with Jrue Holiday, Zion and Anthony Davis...

[exstatic]

kawhi should go sign with new orleans to form a dynasty with Jrue Holiday, Zion and Anthony Davis...

Davis has already said that the Zion pick won't change his mind about being traded.

[MoSpur02]

“When Nick Nurse went a little overtime in his availability with reporters, Kawhi Leonard - eager to get going with the team meeting - stood outside the interview room & said, "C'mon, man." Kawhi wasn't in the best mood. Raptors PR quickly wrapped up everything”

MrMichaelLee Twitter

[K...]

] TWEET]When Nick Nurse went a little overtime in his availability with reporters, Kawhi Leonard - eager to get going with the team meeting - stood outside the interview room & said, "C'mon, man." Kawhi wasn't in the best mood. Raptors PR quickly wrapped up eveything[\tweet]


You need the tweet number

[MoSpur02]

] TWEET]When Nick Nurse went a little overtime in his availability with reporters, Kawhi Leonard - eager to get going with the team meeting - stood outside the interview room & said, "C'mon, man." Kawhi wasn't in the best mood. Raptors PR quickly wrapped up eveything[\tweet]


You need the tweet number


Appreciate it.

[GusT15]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1129123102544281602

[timvp]

1129089879068073986



Metro Nurse getting dad D'ed by Nephew :lol

[MoSpur02]

It’s no wonder he wanted out of San Antonio

[TD 21]

:lmao At letting their best chance to win the series slip away. Now, even if they win game 2, they'd have to win 3 straight to hold serve at home (not happening). At this point, they probably have to win a game 7 on the road to win the series.

It's funny how the narrative of them being so well constructed (when in reality, they got lucky) has turned to "scumbag has to carry them" (media desperate to be his group's go-to) . . . and spare me the "they miss Anunoby" talk. Sure, they could use him in this matchup, but he's damn sure not the difference between those two extremes.

[Rusty]

1129089879068073986

Alphawhi:wow

[exstatic]

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Metro Nurse getting dad D'ed by Nephew :lol
Bet Kawhi is loving terse Pop and his non-availability about now....

[Mugen]

Still got a shot to win the series but I doubt they're getting close to that performance from Lowry again tbh.

[Immortal Spur]

Still got a shot to win the series but I doubt they're getting close to that performance from Lowry again tbh.
I was telling myself the same thing. How do you lose a game when Lowry actually balled out. Nurse has completely lost faith in his bench. I believe like 3-4 players played close to 40 or more. Milwaukee is just the far superior team.

[SpurSpike]

Strong Silent types are usually very strong willed people and are very self secure almost to a fault. You don't have to worry about the dog that barks, you worry about the one that doesn't.

[SpursforSix]

Strong Silent types are usually very strong willed people and are very self secure almost to a fault. You don't have to worry about the dog that barks, you worry about the one that doesn't.

This is terrible advice.

[SpurPadre]

“When Nick Nurse went a little overtime in his availability with reporters, Kawhi Leonard - eager to get going with the team meeting - stood outside the interview room & said, "C'mon, man." Kawhi wasn't in the best mood. Raptors PR quickly wrapped up everything”

MrMichaelLee Twitter

Fucking scumbag. Load Management has no respect for anybody but himself...oh yeah, and uncle.

[r0drig0lac]

This is terrible advice.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

[Mikeanaro]

This is terrible advice.
Had like 10 dogs, turrible advice.

[MoSpur02]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1129123102544281602

Good little interview. Thanks for posting.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs system depends on D more and Pop could use Leonard there. Not only he was fabulous 1-1 defender but great team defender as well. He still is elite though but not all time great which he was 2 years ago.

yeah and it was mostly Pop who pushed him to play both ends. Now Nurse tries to half way hide him so he can save energy for offense. Why would you not use the best perimeter defender to lock down the opponent though? That's stupid

[koriwhat]

yeah and it was mostly Pop who pushed him to play both ends. Now Nurse tries to half way hide him so he can save energy for offense. Why would you not use the best perimeter defender to lock down the opponent though? That's stupid

because nurse isn't a real coach.

[RC_Drunkford]

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Metro Nurse getting dad D'ed by Nephew :lol

just waiting for him to go to LA so he can deal with the daily media circus there :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

because nurse isn't a real coach.

we all know that

[polandprzem]

yeah and it was mostly Pop who pushed him to play both ends. Now Nurse tries to half way hide him so he can save energy for offense. Why would you not use the best perimeter defender to lock down the opponent though? That's stupid

Pop created the way Kawhi developed. Maybe if with different coach he would not be as great defensive player and more concentrated on O? Who knows. But damn all work was done in San Antonio. Now with this freedom of his ... We will see where he goes from here.

He most definitely bounce back in g2 though

[kobyz]

Could Spurs work a DeRozan for Kawhi S&T?

[timvp]

Could Spurs work a DeRozan for Kawhi S&T?

Hmmm ... might have to throw in Poeltl and a first.

[Robz4000]

Hmmm ... might have to throw in Poeltl and a first.

As long as they throw in LDN and some cash, say, $5mil?

[RD2191]

As long as they throw in LDN and some cash, say, $5mil?

https://media.giphy.com/media/fDQiG23bfZsSk/giphy.gif

[offset formation]

Hmmm ... might have to throw in Poeltl and a first.

:rollin

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3z2dCpnsEA

[ZeusWillJudge]

He most definitely bounce back in g2 though

The old Spurs showed that the way to beat a guy that good is to make him take a lot of shots to get his points. As long as he's shooting 38%, I don't care if he scores 60 in Game 2.

In Game 1, both teams shot a pretty piss-poor percentage, but the Bucks out-rebounded Toronto 60-46. And with their length, the Bucks stand a good chance of keeping that rebounding advantage. So Toronto is going to have to be more efficient. I know it's easier said than done, but if they can keep him from getting into rhythm it's enough. And the Bucks' roster is built to do that.

[DPG21920]

Again, unless something changes from the rest of the playoffs, TOR NEEDS contributions from others. PHI is not that good, ORL is not very good and Kawhi isn’t good enough to beat an actual good team like MIL himself like before. It’s not a knock on Kawhi; he has been great these playoffs.

But if TOR doesn’t get the others stepping up consistently, I don’t think the games will even be all that competitive.

[RC_Drunkford]

people here seem to forget quick

Woj on Oct 31, 2014


San Antonio Spurs (https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas/) star Kawhi Leonard (https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4896/) plans to explore restricted free agency next summer after contract extension discussions ended, his agent Brian Elfus told Yahoo Sports on Friday afternoon. Elfus and Leonard have held firm on their desire for a maximum contract extension, something Spurs management won’t consider until July.
“We feel Kawhi is deserving of a max contract, and we are disappointed that something couldn’t get done,” Elfus told Yahoo Sports. “There’s no debating Kawhi’s value. The market has been set. He’s done everything the Spurs have asked of him, exceeded all of their expectations. Coach [Gregg] Popovich has gone out of his way to call Kawhi the future face of the franchise. We have great respect for the Spurs organization, but here, we simply agree to disagree.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/spurs-star-kawhi-leonard-plans-to-explore-restricted-free-agency-in-2015-181115259.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJYMuNa6UrMAHSh4z5dZMFDvtZz1 HeDQCl_TKe4XGWcRO52pQ2RXkdXiorI8Spk2AhKhaOjtiKmaLB lw-QaTKT10JR0EWFXLJpw0FOonhpCrvvKCzcNTLF19K_SKxqAesM6 vaoH31JvHMJTas2JIGsxonuxsHGPV6ZlGes1p4Mlc

After that Elfus worked out the 90 million dollar max contract with the Spurs

March 2016


Kawhi Leonard (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) has parted with agent Brian Elfus of Impact Sports Management, a league source tells Jake Fischer of SI Now (Twitter link (https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/715623157584039937)). The reason for the split is unclear, as Leonard signed a five-year contract for the maximum salary (https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/07/spurs-leonard-years.html) with the Spurs just this past July. Players are normally the catalysts for agent changes, since the representatives work for them, though sometimes agents make the decision to end the relationship. A change of agents sometimes has more to do with off-court endorsement deals than with NBA contracts, though Leonard has long shied from the spotlight and has been reluctant to promote himself in commercials.


Leonard remains with Impact Sports Management, and the change is simply a matter of who does what for Leonard within the agency, as Zach Lowe of ESPN.com clarifies
Elfus tells Fischer that he has “stepped back from off-the-court negotiations” for Leonard but says no other change has taken place


A lawsuit filed in federal court last month says that Kawhi Leonard's ex-agent, Brian Elfus, is owed at least $1.4 million by the sports management group currently managing Leonard, Impact Sports Basketball. The complaint sheds light on the inner workings of the company, including that Leonard's mother, Kim Robertson, and uncle, Dennis Robertson, have been on the payroll "for at least the last five years," and that payments were made to a "KL3" and "KL4" for a combined value of more than $33,000 -- all without Elfus' knowledge. Elfus represented Leonard from 2011 to 2016


Elfus argues that he was such an integral part of Leonard's extension that Spurs general manager R.C. Buford penned him a letter that thanked him for "(keeping) Kawhi a part of our family for years to come."

The lawsuit also cites an ESPN article that suggested the beginning of the Kawhi Leonard-Spurs drama was in 2016, when Frankel became Leonard's agent.

Spurs sources point to Elfus' departure in 2016 as a turning point in the relationship. He had maintained a strong relationship with the Spurs' front office and coaching staff and generally managed the relationship without incident. - Michael C. Wright of ESPN (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs)


By the way Frankel at that point only managed Kawhi and Jeff Ayres. His client list right now aren't much better

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Mitch-Frankel/143

(https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Mitch-Frankel/143)
According to Bleacher Report’s Ric Bucher, the fact that Frankel doesn’t have any other “significant clients (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2785208-why-hasnt-kawhi-leonard-been-traded-yet)” is making it hard for teams to get a read on whether or not they can re-sign him. Frankel doesn’t have that kind of equity with anyone in the NBA. Even if he swore to a team that Leonard would absolutely commit to them for the long haul, it’s highly unlikely a team would put all their faith in his words. That’s a great way for a team to get burned



When Leonard had a wrist injury that wasn't responding to treatment in 2014, his agents, Brian Elfus and Mitch Frankel, pushed for a second opinion. The matter was resolved without any hard feelings going forward, a person familiar with the situation said.

so 2nd opinions happened before and didn't cause any friction when Elfus was still in the mix


Said another league source with direct knowledge of the situation, "Kawhi is the same person. The only thing that has changed about him is the people speaking for him now."


That expansion did not go as planned, however. According to records obtained by ESPN, six UCC liens have been filed against Frankel in Florida since 2011. Former Impact Sports employees contacted by ESPN attributed those financial troubles to Impact's venture into basketball. Records indicate Frankel borrowed money from companies such as Cobalt Sports Capital and JS Sports Funding.


Frankel admitted he is no longer with Impact even though he is Leonard's registered agent on file with the NBPA. Robertson confirmed he was a contractor for Impact Sports for several years before Frankel left the company. Now he says he has an arrangement with Frankel directly, where he's paid as a consultant.


The article (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs) goes on to describe Robertson as “difficult” and alleges, citing sources, that Leonard’s uncle was “trying to parlay his nephew’s success into his own marketing company.” Robertson is not a certified agent and was trying to set up a company similar to LeBron James’ company, LRMR, according to ESPN. (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs) A source is then quoted as saying that Leonard “really trusts” Robertson. ESPN (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22640451/kawhi-leonard-talks-jordan-brand-new-shoe-deal-stalled-sources-say) reported in March 2018 that Robertson had walked away from a $22 million extension offer from the Spurs because he felt it was not good enough for Leonard. Back in 2014, Robertson spoke glowingly about the Spurs telling ABC News, (https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/started-bottom/story?id=24165085) “I’m going to tell you, this is the perfect spot for him. If he wasn’t in San Antonio, I don’t know that he would be Kawhi Leonard right now.”

it's actually 22 million offered by Jordan Brand I think, but anyway

Even Uncle Dennis thinks Spurs molded Kawhi into a superstar


Sources claimed that the tension between team and player began with the dismissal of Elfus. They cite poor communication and ‘ulterior motives’ on the part of Uncle Dennis and Mitch Frankel as the root of the problem. They claim that, once Uncle Dennis felt betrayed by the Spurs over the injury, the relationship could not be mended. Leonard’s loyalty, it appears, stuck with his uncle and not the Spurs.


There is growing suspicion among a collection of NBA agents — a naturally suspicious group — that Robertson is aiming to build his own marketing company with his nephew as its signature client, (https://www.expressnews.com/spurs-nation/article/Leonard-eligible-for-supermax-but-does-it-13079481.php?utm_campaign=twitter-premium&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social) and would like to position Leonard in a glamour market to do so. Multiple agents say Robertson — a former banking executive — has approached other players about wanting to be their manager


Leonard’s team of advisers — including his agent, Mitch Frankel, and his uncle and business manager, Dennis Robertson — reportedly believes the league’s most low-key superstar can over time make up the financial difference (https://www.expressnews.com/spurs-nation/article/Leonard-eligible-for-supermax-but-does-it-13079481.php?utm_campaign=twitter-premium&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social) in endorsement money and a new shoe deal if he moves to a higher-profile market


In an episode of ESPN’s First Take in February 2018, Stephen A. Smith said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA66nAvEEII) that he believed that Dennis Robertson was the source of the problems between Leonard and the Spurs. Smith said, “Let me say this: I’ve been told directly that the uncle has been the problem. So I’m not deducing it to the uncle. I have been told directly that the uncle has been a problem for the organization, even though he has categorically denied that.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=385&v=kA66nAvEEII


One source close to Buford said the longtime executive admitted to him that he's constantly losing sleep over how and why the relationship with Leonard has disintegrated.

The reason why they waited so long to move him:


You can never say done because everybody thought that the Aldridge thing was over and that there was no chance to salvage that," one of the people said. "Pop went in and smoothed it over. You can't underestimate the power of the Pop in these situations."

Fuck Nephew. Spurs did it right by sending him to Canada and now he doesn't play defense anymore and misses games due to load management. Spurs just gotta be aggressive in free agency and get back on track to being a contender

[Sec24Row7]

The first instance was a broken leg, I believe, and still doesn't fall into the category of "sitting out a season". There have always been rumors that MJ's mid career sabbaticle was a suspension, on the down low, for gambling.

MJ was a fucking warrior, and to compare Load Management to him in any way is beyond ridiculous.



Banning the league from the league for gambling never made any sense.

MJ was and is a notorious gambler, but as ridiculously competitive as he is, he would never have bet on anyone but himself.

[TDomination]

people here seem to forget quick

Woj on Oct 31, 2014



https://sports.yahoo.com/news/spurs-star-kawhi-leonard-plans-to-explore-restricted-free-agency-in-2015-181115259.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJYMuNa6UrMAHSh4z5dZMFDvtZz1 HeDQCl_TKe4XGWcRO52pQ2RXkdXiorI8Spk2AhKhaOjtiKmaLB lw-QaTKT10JR0EWFXLJpw0FOonhpCrvvKCzcNTLF19K_SKxqAesM6 vaoH31JvHMJTas2JIGsxonuxsHGPV6ZlGes1p4Mlc

After that Elfus worked out the 90 million dollar max contract with the Spurs

March 2016










By the way Frankel at that point only managed Kawhi and Jeff Ayres. His client list right now aren't much better

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Mitch-Frankel/143

(https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Mitch-Frankel/143)




so 2nd opinions happened before and didn't cause any friction when Elfus was still in the mix









it's actually 22 million offered by Jordan Brand I think, but anyway

Even Uncle Dennis thinks Spurs molded Kawhi into a superstar










https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=385&v=kA66nAvEEII



The reason why they waited so long to move him:



Fuck Nephew. Spurs did it right by sending him to Canada and now he doesn't play defense anymore and misses games due to load management. Spurs just gotta be aggressive in free agency and get back on track to being a contender
Thanks for posting this.

I remember reading all this during all the drama. But it was nice to remember how much of an impact Uncle Dennis had in this whole situation.

Someone posted earlier that Kawhi is a victim in all this. And based on this, thats correct. But most people assume that he's a victim of how the Spurs treated him, "alienated" him and whatnot. But no, he's a victim of his Uncle and Impact Sports. Its pretty obvious.

[Genovaswitness]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1129123102544281602


while Kawhi is balling out of control in the playoffs DePression is out here giving these kind of interviews. the state of the franchise :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[FkLA]

1129089879068073986



Metro Nurse getting dad D'ed by Nephew :lol

It's always a shame to see these guys who were supposedly humble, quiet hard workers show their true colors once they hit the big time. Nurse is a cuck but still, you just don't do that to a coach. Butler is the same way.

[offset formation]

people here seem to forget quick

Woj on Oct 31, 2014



https://sports.yahoo.com/news/spurs-star-kawhi-leonard-plans-to-explore-restricted-free-agency-in-2015-181115259.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJYMuNa6UrMAHSh4z5dZMFDvtZz1 HeDQCl_TKe4XGWcRO52pQ2RXkdXiorI8Spk2AhKhaOjtiKmaLB lw-QaTKT10JR0EWFXLJpw0FOonhpCrvvKCzcNTLF19K_SKxqAesM6 vaoH31JvHMJTas2JIGsxonuxsHGPV6ZlGes1p4Mlc

After that Elfus worked out the 90 million dollar max contract with the Spurs

March 2016










By the way Frankel at that point only managed Kawhi and Jeff Ayres. His client list right now aren't much better

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Mitch-Frankel/143

(https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Mitch-Frankel/143)




so 2nd opinions happened before and didn't cause any friction when Elfus was still in the mix









it's actually 22 million offered by Jordan Brand I think, but anyway

Even Uncle Dennis thinks Spurs molded Kawhi into a superstar










https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=385&v=kA66nAvEEII



The reason why they waited so long to move him:



Fuck Nephew. Spurs did it right by sending him to Canada and now he doesn't play defense anymore and misses games due to load management. Spurs just gotta be aggressive in free agency and get back on track to being a contender

Yeah, I think this finally tells the tale, however chopped up it was. Thanks OP!

I've seen most of this elsewhere but when put together into one long story pieces together, it's clear what happened. A mix of an injury with bad actors constantly chirping in his ear. And those bad actors have bad or self-enriching motives. This is almost entirely on them. Uncle Dennis and Frankel deserve 50% of this blame for the breakdown in the relationship. Kawhi deserves 45% for not standing up for himself and seeing the ulterior motives involved from his uncle and agent, and I'll give 5% to the Spurs for not getting in front of the lies and distortions being told to him. They don't deserve a bit of blame for any injury problems because they sent him to a second doctor as early as the prior summer to his departure. And I'm not even convinced as to what extent his injury was real anyways, as much as it was psychosomatic from his freaking agent and uncle piping that shit into his head. This is Stockholm Syndrome type shit. Fuck his handlers and shame on him for being so gotdamn gullible. I'm guessing he might not be so readily molded by his uncle were it not for his father's murder though, so in solmec ways this can be blamed on America's social failures and gun culture that makes them so accessible by the masses. Fuck the NRA too, just because.

[spursistan]

It's always a shame to see these guys who were supposedly humble, quiet hard workers show their true colors once they hit the big time. Nurse is a cuck but still, you just don't do that to a coach. Butler is the same way.
I have never been so wrong about someone I didn't know personally like I was when it comes to this guy. It just not only us radom fans on a message board, but I assume even Pop and RC (who said he was losing sleep over the whole saga) were completely caught off guard. They never could detect the selfish, piece-of-shittedness nature of Kawhi's character until it was too late.

From here on out, I'm definitely assuming the worst when it comes to those extremely anti-social, introverted types :lol..

[spurraider21]

Your whore mother, that's who.
:lol

[SpurPadre]

Yes, Milwaukee Spurs taking a shit on Load Management!!!!

[RD2191]

Kawhi and company getting blown the fuck out. Might get swept tbh

[r0drig0lac]

Bucks bench has three or four players better than the second best player of the raptors, this is one of the deepest teams ever created, it's scary.

[Nathan89]

Bucks stacked tbh. And they have the perfect talent fit. All 3pt shooters around Giannis is a great combo, even the bench has 3pt shooters. Many of them aren't just shooters like Danny Green so that's also a plus.

[SpurPadre]

We may not ring for another 10 years but as long as that faggot doesn't ring in that time, so be it, tbh.

[Mikeanaro]

All about having fun.

[Nathan89]

Spurstalk has been trying to get ilyasova for some time tbh. Beli acquisitions have taken priority.

[Mikeanaro]

Makes a triple, commentator says he is good, Ilyasova makes one much much harder and crickets.

[Immortal Spur]

Bud's coaching has been masterful

[Nathan89]

Bucks might not even need Giannis to beat toronto.

[BillMc]

Fungi

[Spurs fever]

I'd love Bud to ring.

[Immortal Spur]

Raptors wouldn't make playoffs without Kawhi... they are getting exposed

[slick'81]

Kawhi is halfway to la:lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

Bucks looking like a title team. You can see it in their body language. Everybody is contributing, they don't have one bad player in their rotation and their system is great

[GusT15]

Makes a triple, commentator says he is good, Ilyasova makes one much much harder and crickets.

Arsen Illyasov is 45 years old,he don't need no media hype and recognition

[RC_Drunkford]

How bad has nephew been on defense in this series? No effort. The days of him being a DPOY are long gone

[SpurPadre]

We obviously aren't a Championship team this year but I'm convinced we would've taken out this Raptors team in 7.

[Mikeanaro]

Arsen Illyasov is 45 years old,he don't need no media hype and recognition
Neph is a former inflated FMVP, almost 28 years old, Ilyasova is 32 and never hyped about anything.
So why there is a need to compliment him?
What the fuck is going on up there?

[RC_Drunkford]

Raptors shot themselves in the foot with the Gasol for Valanciunas trade. JV is better than him at this point. Havin Nick Nurse as your coach doesn't help either

[GusT15]

Neph is a former inflated FMVP, almost 28 years old, Ilyasova is 32 and never hyped about anything.
So why there is a need to compliment him?
What the fuck is going on up there?

You missed the joke,but honestly Illyasova is probably 36,noobody knows how old he is ever since they burned his birth certificate and moved him to Turkey from Georgia and renamed him.

On a more serious note,yes,they are overly hyping Nephew,not just TNT and BSPN,everybody in the media.It's the exact reverse thing from what they were doing to him while he was a Spur.

[BillMc]

We obviously aren't a Championship team this year but I'm convinced we would've taken out this Raptors team in 7.

[SpurPadre]

You missed the joke,but honestly Illyasova is probably 36,noobody knows how old he is ever since they burned his birth certificate and moved him to Turkey from Georgia and renamed him.

On a more serious note,yes,they are overly hyping Nephew,not just TNT and BSPN,everybody in the media.It's the exact reverse thing from what they were doing to him while he was a Spur.

To be fair, Barkley thought Load Management was the 2nd best player in the game during LeBron's time.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTMe7utvuw0

[Mikeanaro]

You missed the joke,but honestly Illyasova is probably 36,noobody knows how old he is ever since they burned his birth certificate and moved him to Turkey from Georgia and renamed him.

On a more serious note,yes,they are overly hyping Nephew,not just TNT and BSPN,everybody in the media.It's the exact reverse thing from what they were doing to him while he was a Spur.
I dont know about him, I only know about Ibaka, if he is only 29 Im 15.
Those guys from Africa always cheat their birth dates, but never heard about Ilyasova, anyway he is having an awesome game, unlike Serge who has been regressing since 2012.

Agreed, the exact opposite, Drake is making everything to keep him and when he was a Spur it was like nothing, now you see all those guys downstairs saying he is the best thing ever and they want him so bad, thats sad.
Media is a bitch.

[SpurPadre]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTMe7utvuw0

Matt made Load Management his bitch so what he says is more than valid, tbh.

[RD2191]

Matt made Load Management his bitch so what he says is more than valid, tbh.

Stop it. You're acting like Kawhi fucked your wife. You're a sad excuse of a basketball fan.

[GusT15]

To be fair, Barkley thought Load Management was the 2nd best player in the game during LeBron's time.

And Skip was yelling all over the place that he's the best 2 way player in the game but i meant media's driven narrative not Chuck's "politically incorrect" comments or Skip's disagree for the sake of a 5 minute disagreement arguments.

Just remember how pissed we were trying to hype him up in forums in 2016 and 2017 when he had the tag "System player" on him.

(I just threw up in my mouth at those memories btw)

[SpurPadre]

Stop it. You're acting like Kawhi fucked your wife. You're a sad excuse of a basketball fan.

Why? For stating facts? You must be a Trump supporter.

[Jonnyblue19]

Stop it. You're acting like Kawhi fucked your wife. You're a sad excuse of a basketball fan.


Does that mean we should also like KD because he an incredible basketball player? What Kiwi did the Spurs was horrible.

[Jonnyblue19]

Why? For stating facts? You must be a Trump supporter.


Don't bring politics into this.

[Mikeanaro]

Does that mean we should also like KD because he an incredible basketball player? What Kiwi did the Spurs was humble.
fify :bobo

[SpurPadre]

You don't know this forum well, do you?

[SpurPadre]

Don't bring politics into this.

You don't know this forum well, do you?

[Jonnyblue19]

You don't know this forum well, do you?


I have been here for years. But recently started posting. You can make your point without bringing politics into it. Any normal person knows what Kiwi did was pathetic. He basically handicapped them with his trade demands, etc. Some people for some apparent reason believe he is the second coming of Jordan and can't do anything wrong. Even if he turns down their daughter for an autograph.

[SpurPadre]

I have been here for years. But recently started posting. You can make your point without bringing politics into it. Any normal person knows what Kiwi did was pathetic. He basically handicapped them with his trade demands, etc. Some people for some apparent reason believe he is the second coming of Jordan and can't do anything wrong. Even if he turns down their daughter for an autograph.

I stand corrected but politics is always brought up here, for better or worse.

[Jonnyblue19]

I stand corrected but politics is always brought up here, for better or worse.


Very true and no matter what, there are player fans that are going to side with X player no matter what.

[gambit1990]

kawhi with 24 on 9 for 13 shooting so far.

[r0drig0lac]

kawhi with 24 on 9 for 13 shooting so far.

best player out there

[Mikeanaro]

Most useless selfish scoring I´ve ever seen, WB type.

[RD2191]

Very true and no matter what, there are player fans that are going to side with X player no matter what.

I don't care all that much for Kawhi tbh. It's mostly trolling. Especially guys that get butthurt easily like Spurpadre :lol

[RD2191]

Kawhi carrying scrubs per usual. Getting zero help out there.

[SpurPadre]

I don't care all that much for Kawhi tbh. It's mostly trolling. Especially guys that get butthurt easily like Spurpadre :lol

LOL, you got butthurt cuz I mentioned Matt fucking Load Management in the ass.

[GusT15]

Kawhi carrying scrubs per usual. Getting zero help out there.

They have a Nurse-not even a doctor-to coach him and they traded away their entire bench for Fat Gasol.

The fuck they thought was gonna happen?

[Mikeanaro]

Now comes the dilemma, will Nurse keep Neph on court? he is around 32 min mark.

[RD2191]

LOL, you got butthurt cuz I mentioned Matt fucking Load Management in the ass.

Keep crying buddy. :lol. Kawhi living rent free in a grown mans head.

[Mikeanaro]

They have a Nurse-not even a doctor-to coach him and they traded away their entire bench for Fat Gasol.

The fuck they thought was gonna happen?
Fat Gasol had injuries and all that (last seasons), but now clearly he is almost done.

[GB20]

Kawhi should have stayed with the spurs and he will going to the final.

[Spurs fever]

Kawhi should have stayed with the spurs and he will going to the final. The decision to leave wasn't about basketball based on what's been reported.

[Mikeanaro]

The decision to leave wasn't about basketball based on what's been reported.
Lowry should come to SA, because of Whataburger, non BB related.

[GB20]

The decision to leave wasn't about basketball based on what's been reported.

It was his fucking uncle

[RD2191]

They have a Nurse-not even a doctor-to coach him and they traded away their entire bench for Fat Gasol.

The fuck they thought was gonna happen?

:lol tbh although I don't believe they foresaw the bucks being this good tbh

[Mikeanaro]

BTW, where is Danny Green?

[slick'81]

Everything crashing down on the raps

[Jonnyblue19]

I don't care all that much for Kawhi tbh. It's mostly trolling. Especially guys that get butthurt easily like Spurpadre :lol

That is funny:bobo

[GB20]

BTW, where is Danny Green?

Losing money on the bench.

[Jonnyblue19]

BTW, where is Danny Green?


Probably getting a table at a night club.

[r0drig0lac]

Probably getting a table at a night club.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smihat.gif

[Mikeanaro]

Probably getting a table at a night club.
Lol, partying with Harden.

[Mikeanaro]

Im happy for Hill, he is in a team where he is very productive.

[RD2191]

Just too much firepower from the Bucks, just an all around solid team.

[spursistan]

Doesn't look good for scumbag and Toronto..Bucks are up 2-0 and you feel like they, and Giannis individually, still have a couple of gears to go to..

[Mugen]

Gotta steal one in Toronto and close those niggas out in Game 5.

[exstatic]

Pop: Danny, have a great regular season, but I want you to tank the playoffs. That’ll get you the MLE this summer.

[Immortal Spur]

from east finals to g league game...

[timvp]

One problem for the Raptors is they weren't properly tested before the Bucks. Orlando's not a playoff team and the Sixers are trash. Like I've been saying, the Sixers would lose to every team in the West except maybe the Clippers (I'd probably take the Clippers too, tbh). The fact that a trash team took the Raptors to a seventh game was a bad sign for Toronto and they weren't prepared to face a real playoff team in the Bucks.

[slick'81]

Go bucks go

[Spurs fever]

Go Bucks Go!!

[spursistan]

1129583159790620672

Skip going in...:lol

[Spurs fever]

Skip has been roasting on every episode of Undisputed lol.

[spurs10]

1129583159790620672

Skip going in...:lol :bobo

[024]

The Bucks are actually a very solid team. Bud avenging the Spurs :cry

[BackHome]

KY ain’t Kobe and he sure as hell not even close to MJ.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I know that he's a great player, but fuck Kawhi. I hope he gets swept, and I hope it damages his mute cancer psyche.

And not only that, fuck Kawhi.

[spurs10]

I know that he's a great player, but fuck Kawhi. I hope he gets swept, and I hope it damages his mute cancer psyche.

And not only that, fuck Kawhi. More clarity please! :stirpot:

[spursparker9]

https://sports.yahoo.com/bucks-fans-taunt-raptors-kawhi-with-series-of-clippers-chants-025519952.html

Bucks fans taunt Kawhi with series of Clippers chants

[Mikeanaro]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D60bA8YUEAInZaA.jpg:large

[GusT15]

https://sports.yahoo.com/bucks-fans-taunt-raptors-kawhi-with-series-of-clippers-chants-025519952.html

Bucks fans taunt Kawhi with series of Clippers chants

:lmao:rollin:rollin:lmao

https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee/status/1129575318740717568

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1129572573459517440

Well played Milwaukee :toast

[daslicer]

And Skip was yelling all over the place that he's the best 2 way player in the game but i meant media's driven narrative not Chuck's "politically incorrect" comments or Skip's disagree for the sake of a 5 minute disagreement arguments.

Just remember how pissed we were trying to hype him up in forums in 2016 and 2017 when he had the tag "System player" on him.

(I just threw up in my mouth at those memories btw)

That's one thing I can understand why players hate playing for the Spur is that when they play great they don't get the credit they deserve. It just goes back to Pop and the media will say "Pop with the great coaching and he made blah blah great." It's like how they try to weaken Duncan's legacy by saying he was lucky to play for Pop but they don't acknowledge that pretty much all great players played for great coaches.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

1129583159790620672

Skip going in...:lol

:lmao :lmao :lmao credit where due...Skip spitting fire lol

[r0drig0lac]

https://imgbbb.com/images/2019/05/18/D6z3J_5U8AAbVmJ.jpg

[RC_Drunkford]

https://streamable.com/02b8f

Green: "Set plays are not gonna be run for us":rollin

thought he liked that "freedom"
(https://streamable.com/02b8f)

[blizz]

fuck those two clowns.

[dbreiden83080]

Giannis going to be cakewalking to the finals year after year like Lebron after this idiot sprints to the Clippers..

[dbreiden83080]

Doesn't look good for scumbag and Toronto..Bucks are up 2-0 and you feel like they, and Giannis individually, still have a couple of gears to go to..

Man the Buck are locked in. 10-1 in the playoffs and blowing fools out. Still the Warriors are going to be a tough out, even if they don't have that Beta ass Durant.

[exstatic]

Man the Buck are locked in. 10-1 in the playoffs and blowing fools out. Still the Warriors are going to be a tough out, even if they don't have that Beta ass Durant.

Warriors bench has been quietly disintegrating for a couple of years.

[TDomination]

Man the Buck are locked in. 10-1 in the playoffs and blowing fools out. Still the Warriors are going to be a tough out, even if they don't have that Beta ass Durant.
If Durant stays out, i can definitely see the Bucks winning.

Remember, they will have homecourt.

[r0drig0lac]

If Durant stays out, i can definitely see the Bucks winning.

Remember, they will have homecourt.

even with Durant will be a tough series, this Milwaukee team has no weaknesses, they have the best defense and most athletic team in the league, multiple shooters and shooting creators, nothing that GSW has faced in those 3 years resembles that.

[Mugen]

Still gotta steal one in Toronto tbh.

[Dverde]

even with Durant will be a tough series, this Milwaukee team has no weaknesses, they have the best defense and most athletic team in the league, multiple shooters and shooting creators, nothing that GSW has faced in those 3 years resembles that.

They have great depth, but I’m still not convinced they are all big game players. They haven’t been challenged in the playoffs.

[exstatic]

Still gotta steal one in Toronto tbh.

That’ll shorten the series, but with home court, they don’t HAVE to. If they steal one this trip, it’s over in 5.

[Dverde]

Still gotta steal one in Toronto tbh.

No they don’t :lol

[KobesAchilles]

The dude has lost all his endurance. To me, that was the impressive thing about SA Kawhi, from start to finish he played hard on both sides of the ball. He has lost that ability this postseason as his stamina continues to dwindle. I keep hearing about how fatigued he is and I’m thinking to myself- what was the point of all those rest games then? When you rest a quarter of the season, then in my book you don’t get to complain about fatigue.

And to all the people who say he is carrying the whole franchise and his teammates suck and Nurse is the worst coach and blah blah blah- this is what Kawhi wanted. He wanted out from a great coach. He wanted out of a team that had another All-Star to share the load. He wanted out of SA before his contract was up. So this is the result. There are no complaints to be had about the other team when all you had to do was play one more year in SA.

[BillMc]

Best case scenario is a less than 100 percent Durant comes back for the Finals and can't do what he normally does, while also gumming up Warriors return to the Beautiful Game (2.0)

[BillMc]

The dude has lost all his endurance. To me, that was the impressive thing about SA Kawhi, from start to finish he played hard on both sides of the ball. He has lost that ability this postseason as his stamina continues to dwindle. I keep hearing about how fatigued he is and I’m thinking to myself- what was the point of all those rest games then? When you rest a quarter of the season, then in my book you don’t get to complain about fatigue.

And to all the people who say he is carrying the whole franchise and his teammates suck and Nurse is the worst coach and blah blah blah- this is what Kawhi wanted. He wanted out from a great coach. He wanted out of a team that had another All-Star to share the load. He wanted out of SA before his contract was up. So this is the result. There are no complaints to be had about the other team when all you had to do was play one more year in SA.

This

[RD2191]

The dude has lost all his endurance. To me, that was the impressive thing about SA Kawhi, from start to finish he played hard on both sides of the ball. He has lost that ability this postseason as his stamina continues to dwindle. I keep hearing about how fatigued he is and I’m thinking to myself- what was the point of all those rest games then? When you rest a quarter of the season, then in my book you don’t get to complain about fatigue.

And to all the people who say he is carrying the whole franchise and his teammates suck and Nurse is the worst coach and blah blah blah- this is what Kawhi wanted. He wanted out from a great coach. He wanted out of a team that had another All-Star to share the load. He wanted out of SA before his contract was up. So this is the result. There are no complaints to be had about the other team when all you had to do was play one more year in SA.

This is a garbage post.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The dude has lost all his endurance. To me, that was the impressive thing about SA Kawhi, from start to finish he played hard on both sides of the ball. He has lost that ability this postseason as his stamina continues to dwindle. I keep hearing about how fatigued he is and I’m thinking to myself- what was the point of all those rest games then? When you rest a quarter of the season, then in my book you don’t get to complain about fatigue.

And to all the people who say he is carrying the whole franchise and his teammates suck and Nurse is the worst coach and blah blah blah- this is what Kawhi wanted. He wanted out from a great coach. He wanted out of a team that had another All-Star to share the load. He wanted out of SA before his contract was up. So this is the result. There are no complaints to be had about the other team when all you had to do was play one more year in SA.


Aldridge couldn’t carry crap, he was abysmal in the playoffs and this Spurs team is much worse than the Raptors. Pop is a great coach but still hasn’t no clue how to play good lineups.

If Leonard goes to the clippers he’ll be in a better place. He’s had a fantastic playoff run overall.

[loveforthegame]

Did I miss something? Leonard is complaining about being tired?

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Aldridge couldn’t carry crap, he was abysmal in the playoffs and this Spurs team is much worse than the Raptors. Pop is a great coach but still hasn’t no clue how to play good lineups.

If Leonard goes to the clippers he’ll be in a better place. He’s had a fantastic playoff run overall.

:rollin

[Spurs Homer]

Aldridge couldn’t carry crap, he was abysmal in the playoffs and this Spurs team is much worse than the Raptors. Pop is a great coach but still hasn’t no clue how to play good lineups.

If Leonard goes to the clippers he’ll be in a better place. He’s had a fantastic playoff run overall.


yeah sure,

he can betray the raptors now - go to the clips

then when he is exposed again

he can betray the clips...

dickriders can blame those teams and continue to dickride him to all other teams he quits on

sure- ok

[RC_Drunkford]

this ain't Spurs Kawhi. 2017 Spurs Kawhi was the best defender as well as one of the best offensive players in the NBA and was able to play both sides on an elite level. Remember when he nailed that 3 on the Rockets then went and blocked Harden on the other end? That player was the best player in the NBA and doesn't exist anymore.

Who is he locking down on defense so far in these playoffs? 2019 Kawi has a DBPM of 0.1 in the Playoffs. Steals, Blocks and Assist numbers are all down, yet turnovers and minutes are up. Media can hype him up as much as they want to, he's not nealry on the same level.

2017 PER 31.5 WS/48 .314 OBPM 8.7 DBPM 2.6 BPM 11.4 3P% 45.5

2019 PER 29.4 WS/48 .264 OBPM 8.2 DBPM 0.1 BPM 8.3 3P% 38.8

He's still elite, but he's not the monster he was in 2017 and I think he doesn't really care about it, he and his team want the glamour and the media accolades. They want that hype to build his "brand". So as long as this is the Kawhi we see from now on, he's not gon be that big of a problem. He didn't lock down anybody, all he is is a super efficient scorer with mediocre passing ability

[KobesAchilles]

Aldridge couldn’t carry crap, he was abysmal in the playoffs and this Spurs team is much worse than the Raptors. Pop is a great coach but still hasn’t no clue how to play good lineups.

If Leonard goes to the clippers he’ll be in a better place. He’s had a fantastic playoff run overall.

I disagree. I think the Spurs this year would’ve been better than the Raptors have been if we kept Kawhi. Honestly with Durant getting hurt, we had the pieces to beat Golden St. And I never said LMA would carry the Spurs, I just said he would help share the load. Say what you want about LMA but he’s better than playoff Lowry.

if Kawhi signs with the Clippers then that’s great. It has no bearing on my post once so ever. I just said he had to play for us for one more year and never mentioned him re-signing with us.

He has had a fantastic playoff run overall but his legs are gone man. His 3 is broken bc he isn’t getting the proper lift on his shots. I mean the dude had 2 points in a 4th quarter of a game they were winning. It’s obvious that his stamina is shot. He has run into a real team and has no idea what to do. When you watch him play, it looks like he has no chemistry with his teammates. He doesn’t know how to rally the troops (in Toronto).

[Rusty]

what was the point of all those rest games then? When you rest a quarter of the season, then in my book you don’t get to complain about fatigue.

And to all the people who say he is carrying the whole franchise and his teammates suck and Nurse is the worst coach and blah blah blah- this is what Kawhi wanted. He wanted out from a great coach. He wanted out of a team that had another All-Star to share the load. He wanted out of SA before his contract was up. So this is the result. There are no complaints to be had about the other team when all you had to do was play one more year in SA.

1. He rested alot of regular season games because he's trying to prevent injury in his contract year. You really think he's preserving himself so he can play better in the playoffs?:lol

2. He wanted to be in LA, not Toronto. And yes what you said are all facts. He carried his team the first 2 rounds. His teammates sucks and Nick Nurse is the worst coach in the NBA. Check his stats against the Magic and Philly, see how little help he had from his supporting cast(kyle lowry:lmao)

[Dverde]

Coach Bud will not be out-coached by a guy who wears a hat with his own logo.
https://i.redd.it/orxa3syflav21.jpg

[RD2191]

Coach Bud will not be out-coached by a guy who wears a hat with his own logo.
https://i.redd.it/orxa3syflav21.jpg

:lol

[Twisted_Dawg]

Why would a rookie NBA coach think he's even earned the right to even have a fucking logo.

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Why would a rookie NBA coach think he's even earned the right to even have a fucking logo.

Probably came from uncle bwo New Balance

[dbreiden83080]

If Durant stays out, i can definitely see the Bucks winning.

Remember, they will have homecourt.

Durant probably comes back by the finals. And in a 7 game series thanks to that clown pulling the biggest bitch move ever in the NBA, it is just so hard to beat the Warriors. Practically impossible..

[koriwhat]

spurs have never been the same since bud left... i know i know we won but we still miss bud!

[Dverde]

Nephew got next.
https://i.imgur.com/qHbFonr_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[daslicer]

spurs have never been the same since bud left... i know i know we won but we still miss bud!

Spurs were pretty much the same up until what Zaza did in 2017 which was an elite team that had a shot at a title.

[gambit1990]

Coach Bud will not be out-coached by a guy who wears a hat with his own logo.
https://i.redd.it/orxa3syflav21.jpg
wtf :lol

tacky af. and “nn” isn’t very original :lol

[DAF86]

https://imgbbb.com/images/2019/05/18/D6z3J_5U8AAbVmJ.jpg

And all of them shoot threes. Modernball. No wonder they were the best basketball team this season.

[tholdren]

Kawhiso looks like garbage out there. Conference finals a terrible look for nba.

[BackHome]

Ky is asking for help come on Daboom and TGY were are you fan boys when he needs you? He needs immediate help so please assume past ass wiping duties. :whine

[KobesAchilles]

1. He rested alot of regular season games because he's trying to prevent injury in his contract year. You really think he's preserving himself so he can play better in the playoffs?:lol

Oh I know that’s the real reason why he didn’t play back to backs. He’s scared of getting hurt on his contract year. Smart play by him (in the long run). But the media and all the pro-Kawhi fluffers have been saying all year that he’s saving himself for the playoffs. And regular season doesn’t matter. Rest him now so he won’t be tired come playoff time. And now I have to hear that he’s tired? And his teammates are letting him down? Bro he could’ve just finished out his contract in SA and played with better teammates and a much better coach. He could’ve left us high and dry afterwards and I would’ve supported that decision tbh.

Now he screws 2 franchises over :lol

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

If Toronto gets 4-1 or swept Kawhi is out of there. Smh. I honestly wanted him to stay on Toronto or at the very least in the eastern conference. The way things are looking he will be in Los Angeles June 30th. Hopefully the Clippers and not the Lakers though.

[Dverde]

Oh I know that’s the real reason why he didn’t play back to backs. He’s scared of getting hurt on his contract year. Smart play by him (in the long run). But the media and all the pro-Kawhi fluffers have been saying all year that he’s saving himself for the playoffs. And regular season doesn’t matter. Rest him now so he won’t be tired come playoff time. And now I have to hear that he’s tired? And his teammates are letting him down? Bro he could’ve just finished out his contract in SA and played with better teammates and a much better coach. He could’ve left us high and dry afterwards and I would’ve supported that decision tbh.

Now he screws 2 franchises over :lol

Still one more to go. He could end up not having a retired jersey anywhere.

[Mugen]

Meh, Spurfan out of all people should know that a 2-0 lead in the Conference Finals means nothing.

The Raptors hold serve at home and this series is a toss-up again.

[FkLA]

Coach Bud will not be out-coached by a guy who wears a hat with his own logo.
https://i.redd.it/orxa3syflav21.jpg

Who the fuck gave this cuck a logo?

[slick'81]

Meh, Spurfan out of all people should know that a 2-0 lead in the Conference Finals means nothing.

The Raptors hold serve at home and this series is a toss-up again.

no doubt but beating mil 4/5 times wont be easy.Especially after losing 5/6 recently

[Mugen]

Masai bending RC over but hiring fucking Nick Nurse as your coach on an all-in season....:lol

Should have backed the money truck up to Bud but I'm sure Nephew would have killed that.....

[gilmor]

The dude has lost all his endurance. To me, that was the impressive thing about SA Kawhi, from start to finish he played hard on both sides of the ball. He has lost that ability this postseason as his stamina continues to dwindle. I keep hearing about how fatigued he is and I’m thinking to myself- what was the point of all those rest games then? When you rest a quarter of the season, then in my book you don’t get to complain about fatigue.

And to all the people who say he is carrying the whole franchise and his teammates suck and Nurse is the worst coach and blah blah blah- this is what Kawhi wanted. He wanted out from a great coach. He wanted out of a team that had another All-Star to share the load. He wanted out of SA before his contract was up. So this is the result. There are no complaints to be had about the other team when all you had to do was play one more year in SA.

I think the worst thing is he wanted out of a great coach who wants to make him the image of the franchise for the next 5 to 6 years.

[Fusternino]

Nick Nurse isn't just a bottom 10 coach gifted an amazing roster a la Scott Brooks-he epitomizes everything wrong in our modern culture.

[timvp]

Coach Bud will not be out-coached by a guy who wears a hat with his own logo.
https://i.redd.it/orxa3syflav21.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Lwk3Blz.gif

[JeffDuncan]

I think Coach Nurse put a little too much estrogen on his oatmeal.

[Nathan89]

Who the fuck gave this cuck a logo?

You want a logo?

[exstatic]

Masai bending RC over but hiring fucking Nick Nurse as your coach on an all-in season....:lol

Should have backed the money truck up to Bud but I'm sure Nephew would have killed that.....

Bud was way too smart and experienced to touch that powder keg of a job in Toronto

[FkLA]

You want a logo?

https://imgflip.com/i/31bu5mhttps://i.imgflip.com/31bu5m.jpg

[toki9]

So I guess Nick Nurse really does have his own logo/branding? Or is this Onion-Canada?

https://sportmanagementhub.com/players-with-logos-for-their-brands-plus-nick-nurse/

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJQGUj-4ddw

[weeks]

Meh, Spurfan out of all people should know that a 2-0 lead in the Conference Finals means nothing.

The Raptors hold serve at home and this series is a toss-up again.

You sound bummed out :lol

[tholdren]

Masai bending RC over but hiring fucking Nick Nurse as your coach on an all-in season....:lol

Should have backed the money truck up to Bud but I'm sure Nephew would have killed that.....

Thinking nba coaching means anything... stop watching if you can't understand this is entertainment