***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[exstatic]

By the time Kawhi got to Toronto he already had his mind set about going to LA. I'm talking about doing everything to keep him before he decided that. If the Spurs would have taken special care of him when things were going well, maybe the idea of going to LA would have never crossed his mind.

Your timing is way off. He had that decided before SA traded him in 2017. Magic was trying to bend Pop over with horrible trade scenarios. Are you forgetting this, or did it just slip right by you when it happened?

[Ondrej]

How do you know? There was talk he wasn't offered the Supermax at first, there was talk that they were trying to rush him back, there was talk that his uncle wanted a job in the FO. Spurs should have offered all that and if he said "no", then all good, they did everything they could and he would have been the one looking like the bad guy leaving.
Toronto did everything they could afford and still Kawhi quit on them.
The bad guy did what he wanted to do all the time. He broke free from his contract responsibilites and went to play bball in LA.
Really this thing reminds me a situation when pretty girl broke up with you and you still can't forget her. You keep asking yourself - what could I do to convince her to stay? Maybe if she became the mistress and I would be her slave, maybe then she would love me? Maybe if I let her sleep with someone else on Saturdays, maybe then she would have been with me...
I'm glad the Spurs have some self-respect

[DAF86]

Your timing is way off. He had that decided before SA traded him in 2017. Magic was trying to bend Pop over with horrible trade scenarios. Are you forgetting this, or did it just slip right by you when it happened?

I didn't say Kawhi made his mind about going to LA WHEN he got to Toronto. I said "by the time" he got there. Meaning he had that idea since before getting there. How much before? I didn't specify, so I don't know why you jumped at me like that. :lol

[Collins21]

Toronto did everything they could afford and still Kawhi quit on them.
The bad guy did what he wanted to do all the time. He broke free from his contract responsibilites and went to play bball in LA.
Really this thing reminds me a situation when pretty girl broke up with you and you still can't forget her. You keep asking yourself - what could I do to convince her to stay? Maybe if she became the mistress and I would be her slave, maybe then she would love me? Maybe if I let her sleep with someone else on Saturdays, maybe then she would have been with me...
I'm glad the Spurs have some self-respect

I've been saying this since last year it sounds really pathetic. The same people saying give Kawhi anything he wants and bend over backwards for him are probably the same people who criticize Lebron and Rich Paul.

[Ondrej]

By the time Kawhi got to Toronto he already had his mind set about going to LA. I'm talking about doing everything to keep him before he decided that. If the Spurs would have taken special care of him when things were going well, maybe the idea of going to LA would have never crossed his mind.
Well, we could ask Di Caprio from Inception to get into Kawhi's head and erase his memories and intentions about LA.
Or kidnap uncle Dennis so Pop would become Kawhi's second stepfather whom Nephew would obey. Uncle Pop.
At least we could give the entire organization to uncle Dennis. Then each time entering AT&T Center we could see extremely big portrait of laughing Robertson's face on the wall. Disgusting. But some people would want to bow to their king.
The problem is that even the more power you give to undignified people, the more they'll use it against you. Nothing would have changed.
So water is wet. Sun always shines. Pop is old and loves Patty. Kawhi is gone.

[FkLA]

By the time Kawhi got to Toronto he already had his mind set about going to LA. I'm talking about doing everything to keep him before he decided that. If the Spurs would have taken special care of him when things were going well, maybe the idea of going to LA would have never crossed his mind.

The only way they would've been able to keep him is if he never made the leap he made. If he remained a poor man's Pippen instead of turning into Kawhichael. Once the group realized how good he was, him and Uncle wanted more. A brand, a player agency, signature shoe deals, commercials, etc. You can't really do that in SA.

Turns out he was never really humble/quiet because that all went out the window as soon as his game went to the next level. San Antonio was never the perfect match for him everyone thought it was. He wanted a big market just like 99% of all superstars.

[bic50]

Make no mistake about it, Kawhi, with the help of his uncle, has become an absolute bitch-ass diva. The thing is that he is so good that the Spurs should have catered to his bitch-ass diva demands anyway.:lol

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4L-wlM8GY

[apalisoc_9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4L-wlM8GY

wow espn stole the same vid idea from an unkmown youtuber who posted similar contrnt

[J_Paco]

wow espn stole the same vid idea from an unkmown youtuber who posted similar contrnt

Uh, Leonard's pull-up game has been a part of his arsenal since his time here & Goldsberry spent time here under Pop (in an analytics capacity). So, him making this video (or the previous YouTube creator) isn't surprising.

Doesn't mean it is a case of plagiarism, but maybe just 2 "content creators" having similar points (about his game and skill).

Also, it is hilarious that people, especially on ST, rag on DeRozan/Aldridge for having mid - range "centric" games. Yet, Leonard is a player that relies heavily on that part of the floor too (not to the same degree as the two current Spurs).

[duncan2k5]

Naw, Nephew was always going to LA. I don't think the Spurs bending over him was ever gonna change that. He just won a championship with Toronto (still would have gotten his endorsements) and still bailed on them. I could believe that the Spurs had to be blamed for it if he stayed with Toronto. He took less money to even go to LA, it was always about going there.

It's just awful his play on the court is too good and our team got screwed over cause of his bad attitude.

I think u guys say that to make it seem inevitable... But the reality is he didn't mind being a spur... But once it reach a point where he didn't wanna be a spur anymore, it wasn't about being on any other team... It was about going home

[duncan2k5]

Uh, Leonard's pull-up game has been a part of his arsenal since his time here & Goldsberry spent time here under Pop (in an analytics capacity). So, him making this video (or the previous YouTube creator) isn't surprising.

Doesn't mean it is a case of plagiarism, but maybe just 2 "content creators" having similar points (about his game and skill).

Also, it is hilarious that people, especially on ST, rag on DeRozan/Aldridge for having mid - range "centric" games. Yet, Leonard is a player that relies heavily on that part of the floor too (not to the same degree as the two current Spurs).

Kawhi can hit threes at a very good clip... No one gives a shit if LMA and DDR camp at the three point line

[Yogatti]

I think u guys say that to make it seem inevitable... But the reality is he didn't mind being a spur... But once it reach a point where he didn't wanna be a spur anymore, it wasn't about being on any other team... It was about going home

Disagreed. He left Toronto after winning a championship there which goes to show how much he & Uncle Dennis wanted to go back to LA. That was their endgame. He's now making New Balance and Terminator commercials and it's only been a week into the season :lol

[koriwhat]

he'll break his hip this season... fuck kawhi!

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs created a monster. I'm just glad he's fuckin over the Lakers and Warriors. At least he's doing it to our most hated teams:lol

[lefty]

Make no mistake about it, Kawhi, with the help of his uncle, has become an absolute bitch-ass diva. The thing is that he is so good that the Spurs should have catered to his bitch-ass diva demands anyway.

He’s bot a diva, he’s just a current gen player

Organizations must adapt to newer generations, it’s bot the other way around

Warriors, Clippers, Raptors understood that

Spurms are just run by a bunch of old white men who run on Pepto Bismol tbh

[J_Paco]

Kawhi can hit threes at a very good clip... No one gives a shit if LMA and DDR camp at the three point line

No shit. He still is predominantly a midrange, scoISO Scorer, though.

Never said either guy was as versatile scorer or efficient from 3-point range.

[J_Paco]

He’s bot a diva, he’s just a current gen player

Organizations must adapt to newer generations, it’s bot the other way around

Warriors, Clippers, Raptors understood that

Spurms are just run by a bunch of old white men who run on Pepto Bismol tbh

Shut the fuck up.

You sound so stupid when all those teams, and many more, strive to have the Spurs' culture and continuity.

Nah, instead pander to "modern stars," end up with no titles & a fucked cap situation......

[lefty]

Shut the fuck up.

You sound so stupid when all those teams, and many more, strive to have the Spurs' culture and continuity.

Nah, instead pander to "modern stars," end up with no titles & a fucked cap situation......
Sperms authoritarian culture is outdated, old man

[apalisoc_9]

Shut the fuck up.

You sound so stupid when all those teams, and many more, strive to have the Spurs' culture and continuity.

Nah, instead pander to "modern stars," end up with no titles & a fucked cap situation......

You sound like a bitch

[FkLA]

Shut the fuck up.

You sound so stupid when all those teams, and many more, strive to have the Spurs' culture and continuity.

Nah, instead pander to "modern stars," end up with no titles & a fucked cap situation......

Additionally, small markets can't even "pander" to them even if they wanted to. What most of these faggots want can really only be offered by the big markets. That's why they all flock there.

If you're not one of the big markets building a culture is absolutely the better route than pandering.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY2CYc5TJa4

[Fusternino]

Who cares. Terminator has been trash franchise for years at this point.

[dbreiden83080]

By the time Kawhi got to Toronto he already had his mind set about going to LA. I'm talking about doing everything to keep him before he decided that. If the Spurs would have taken special care of him when things were going well, maybe the idea of going to LA would have never crossed his mind.

Well what more were the spurs exactly supposed to do with him? They had handed him the keys to the franchise. He was the number one guy. He was going to get a massive Supermax contract. The team was being built around him. His last full season with the team we went to the conference finals. What else is there? I’m not about kissing every little inch of somebody’s ass just hang onto them. Not when Tim Duncan was our superstar for 20 years. And then David Robinson before that. This dude made up his mind about going to LA years before it happened. If winning a championship in Toronto was not enough to get him to stay put. Nothing was going to get him to stay put.

[BillMc]

Who cares. Terminator has been trash franchise for years at this point.
This

[lefty]

Who cares. Terminator has been trash franchise for years at this point.

Trrue but I feel like the new one will be good tbh

[Rosewood]

Trrue but I feel like the new one will be good tbh Probably be at least decent, I was shitting on the new Halloween movie because they were talking it up due to the original guy returning, but it turned out pretty good.

[bic50]

he'll break his hip this season... fuck kawhi!
What predictions did you make last season?

[J_Paco]

Sperms authoritarian culture is outdated, old man

Yes, Pop is such a dictator. All the praise, love & admiration he receives throughout the NBA is further "brainwashing" by Pop the "cult leader."

:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

[J_Paco]

You sound like a bitch

Wow, had to jump on as one of your alt accounts to attack me?

Yeah, realizing you crybaby, wishy washy ass, fair weather "fans" needed to get over Kawhi and move on make me the "bitch."

Finding another team to "root" for or jump off a bridge, you'd be doing ST a favor.

[loveforthegame]

Clippers played like ass tonight. Wow. That was ugly.

Leonard with another 9 assists. His passing has been unreal early this season.

[SpurPadre]

Aron Baynes doing us a solid, tbh. :tu

[loveforthegame]

Another career high. 10 assists for Leonard.

Clippers will kick themselves for losing this one.

[loveforthegame]

DP

[Dejounte]

Wow, had to jump on as one of your alt accounts to attack me?

Yeah, realizing you crybaby, wishy washy ass, fair weather "fans" needed to get over Kawhi and move on make me the "bitch."

Finding another team to "root" for or jump off a bridge, you'd be doing ST a favor.

He will never leave ST. In case you havent noticed timvp is blind to this idiot's behavior as well as other trolls on this site. Im pretty sure apa is one of the mods on this site as well, which is why he treats it as his little playground for fucking with people since he cant do it in real life.

[SpurPadre]

Murray on his trust in the organization in looking out for his health while limiting his minutes:

"No, no, no, no, no, I trust them," Murray said when asked if he would request more time. "They've been doing this a long time. So, I trust them and they know what they're doing."

So refreshing, tbh.

[koriwhat]

What predictions did you make last season?

i didn't.

[spurraider21]

Who cares. Terminator has been trash franchise for years at this point.
i think last one i saw was salvation? barely remember names anymore

[duncan2k5]

Well what more were the spurs exactly supposed to do with him? They had handed him the keys to the franchise. He was the number one guy. He was going to get a massive Supermax contract. The team was being built around him. His last full season with the team we went to the conference finals. What else is there? I’m not about kissing every little inch of somebody’s ass just hang onto them. Not when Tim Duncan was our superstar for 20 years. And then David Robinson before that. This dude made up his mind about going to LA years before it happened. If winning a championship in Toronto was not enough to get him to stay put. Nothing was going to get him to stay put.

U guys love spin... He would have stayed a spur if he wasn't done wrong... Once that happened, he was set on going home... It's not about going to any team that treats him right... NBA stars don't wanna play for any team... They have preferences... For Kawhi it was either spurs or LA... spurs did him wrong, so LA it was

[TheGoatishere]

U guys love spin... He would have stayed a spur if he wasn't done wrong... Once that happened, he was set on going home... It's not about going to any team that treats him right... NBA stars don't wanna play for any team... They have preferences... For Kawhi it was either spurs or LA... spurs did him wrong, so LA it was

You wanna believe that so bad :lol:lmao

[Collins21]

U guys love spin... He would have stayed a spur if he wasn't done wrong... Once that happened, he was set on going home... It's not about going to any team that treats him right... NBA stars don't wanna play for any team... They have preferences... For Kawhi it was either spurs or LA... spurs did him wrong, so LA it was

I want you to explain what exactly the Spurs did wrong to Kawhi? Every other player speaks glowingly of the Spurs but they would decide to treat role players and average players better than their franchise player? I'm not buying dude wanted LA

[dbreiden83080]

U guys love spin... He would have stayed a spur if he wasn't done wrong... Once that happened, he was set on going home... It's not about going to any team that treats him right... NBA stars don't wanna play for any team... They have preferences... For Kawhi it was either spurs or LA... spurs did him wrong, so LA it was

The Raptors did everything for him, outside of wiping his ass, and undoing his zipper to take a piss.. They also completely kissed the Uncle's Ass.. Raptors won a title, and had a great core of players.. He still left.. You are Fucking Delusional Buddy..

[dbreiden83080]

I want you to explain what exactly the Spurs did wrong to Kawhi? Every other player speaks glowingly of the Spurs but they would decide to treat role players and average players better than their franchise player? I'm not buying dude wanted LA

They had the nerve to ask him to play basketball when making 18 million dollars. We should have been cool with him blowing off an entire season. That's basically it..

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnVP7Bz6-tY

[duncan2k5]

The Raptors did everything for him, outside of wiping his ass, and undoing his zipper to take a piss.. They also completely kissed the Uncle's Ass.. Raptors won a title, and had a great core of players.. He still left.. You are Fucking Delusional Buddy..

Did u not see what I said? Kawhi didn't want to play for ANY team... It's not like he wanted to be anywhere except SA... he wanted to go home... BUT the only other place he would have stayed is SA if they didn't cross him... Like me for example... I love where I live... If I had to live in the US mainland, I would live in California because that's the weather I'm used to, and the diversity... If I was sent to Alaska, I don't care how good I'm treated at that job, if I could get the same job in Cali, I would leave

[rasuo214]

If the Spurs did anything wrong it's maybe that they took his willingness to take a step back for the Big 3 for granted. As long as any of the Big 3 were on the team it would never fully become his team. As much as Pop/Parker etc. would say it was his team, in reality he was just the best player. Just like it was always Tim's team even though they pretended it was Parker's. You add in that the Spurs were reluctant to pay him the supermax (after delaying to pay him early the first time to have cap for LMA) and other stuff like being called a system player or not getting special treatment like other stars and it just reinforces it.

[dbreiden83080]

Did u not see what I said? Kawhi didn't want to play for ANY team... It's not like he wanted to be anywhere except SA... he wanted to go home... BUT the only other place he would have stayed is SA if they didn't cross him... Like me for example... I love where I live... If I had to live in the US mainland, I would live in California because that's the weather I'm used to, and the diversity... If I was sent to Alaska, I don't care how good I'm treated at that job, if I could get the same job in Cali, I would leave

Why do you have this constant pro Leonard narrative and Anti Spurs? The dude is gone, and he acted like a total fucking ass. All the Spurs did was ask him to play ball after he was cleared to play by doctors, help us win games, and earn his 18 mil salary. That is all. There is nothing else. And there is no blame on the Spurs part. He never had a serious injury. He never had surgery. He was looking for doctors to agree with him. Get over this already. Leonard is an asshole that pulled a new Gen power move. That is what happened..

[duncan2k5]

Why do you have this constant pro Leonard narrative and Anti Spurs? The dude is gone, and he acted like a total fucking ass. All the Spurs did was ask him to play ball after he was cleared to play by doctors, help us win games, and earn his 18 mil salary. That is all. There is nothing else. And there is no blame on the Spurs part. He never had a serious injury. He never had surgery. He was looking for doctors to agree with him. Get over this already. Leonard is an asshole that pulled a new Gen power move. That is what happened..

He was my favorite player, combined with the recent moves the FO has been doing... Of COURSE I'm pissed... And they didn't "just ask him to play"... They publicly threw him under the bus because they didn't believe him... All because they were so desperate to give Manu and Parker one last deep championship run... They chose the legacy of their old guys over the health of their new star... And didn't back him up when he felt like his body wasn't right

Why do u think so many former stars took Kawhi's side? They ALL had horror stories of doctors clearing players when they weren't healthy... That same year they cleared green to play when he still had issues, and they had Gasol playing with a broken foot...

U have to give ur star the benefit of the doubt if they say they don't feel right... And it's not like he went to Toronto the following year and showed anything different... He was CLEARLY hurt... In a contract year... No player would want the perception to be that he has a serious injury in a contract year... That's indication that he actually was feeling too much pain to play comfortably on a consistent basis... During his 9 games there were ppl on here saying he may have been brought back too soon...


So naturally if u throw ur star under the bus publicly, then refuse to give him the supermax after throwing money at patty, Gasol and LMA (remember all was good until reports came that then refusing to give supermax was the last straw... During that off season, the media were all reporting that Kawhi would sign back to the Spurs before the supermax debacle) he is gonna say "fuck it then... I wanna go home"

[Dejounte]

Why do you have this constant pro Leonard narrative and Anti Spurs? The dude is gone, and he acted like a total fucking ass. All the Spurs did was ask him to play ball after he was cleared to play by doctors, help us win games, and earn his 18 mil salary. That is all. There is nothing else. And there is no blame on the Spurs part. He never had a serious injury. He never had surgery. He was looking for doctors to agree with him. Get over this already. Leonard is an asshole that pulled a new Gen power move. That is what happened..

This subject is a hill duncan2k5 will die on. I would just forget about it and move on. This dude has no joy with the Spurs and someday maybe he will realize that hes wasted his energy defending that douchebag on this forum. It will probably take years though.

[tbdog]

He was my favorite player, combined with the recent moves the FO has been doing... Of COURSE I'm pissed... And they didn't "just ask him to play"... They publicly threw him under the bus because they didn't believe him... All because they were so desperate to give Manu and Parker one last deep championship run... They chose the legacy of their old guys over the health of their new star... And didn't back him up when he felt like his body wasn't right

Why do u think so many former stars took Kawhi's side? They ALL had horror stories of doctors clearing players when they weren't healthy... That same year they cleared green to play when he still had issues, and they had Gasol playing with a broken foot...

U have to give ur star the benefit of the doubt if they say they don't feel right... And it's not like he went to Toronto the following year and showed anything different... He was CLEARLY hurt... In a contract year... No player would want the perception to be that he has a serious injury in a contract year... That's indication that he actually was feeling too much pain to play comfortably on a consistent basis... During his 9 games there were ppl on here saying he may have been brought back too soon...


So naturally if u throw ur star under the bus publicly, then refuse to give him the supermax after throwing money at patty, Gasol and LMA (remember all was good until reports came that then refusing to give supermax was the last straw... During that off season, the media were all reporting that Kawhi would sign back to the Spurs before the supermax debacle) he is gonna say "fuck it then... I wanna go home"

You're filling in too many holes. It was common knowledge that the Spurs wanted to rule Leonard out for the season but Leonard's camp refused. That's why game by game he was DNP Injury Management.

[RC_Drunkford]

duncan2k5 would offer his wife to Kawhi and then go defend him for fuckin her. No surprises here

[BackHome]

Amen Brother

[loveforthegame]

Small sample size and all that but damn.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jovanbuha/status/1188838396224925696

[BSfromTX]

He was my favorite player, combined with the recent moves the FO has been doing... Of COURSE I'm pissed... And they didn't "just ask him to play"... They publicly threw him under the bus because they didn't believe him... All because they were so desperate to give Manu and Parker one last deep championship run... They chose the legacy of their old guys over the health of their new star... And didn't back him up when he felt like his body wasn't right

Why do u think so many former stars took Kawhi's side? They ALL had horror stories of doctors clearing players when they weren't healthy... That same year they cleared green to play when he still had issues, and they had Gasol playing with a broken foot...

U have to give ur star the benefit of the doubt if they say they don't feel right... And it's not like he went to Toronto the following year and showed anything different... He was CLEARLY hurt... In a contract year... No player would want the perception to be that he has a serious injury in a contract year... That's indication that he actually was feeling too much pain to play comfortably on a consistent basis... During his 9 games there were ppl on here saying he may have been brought back too soon...


So naturally if u throw ur star under the bus publicly, then refuse to give him the supermax after throwing money at patty, Gasol and LMA (remember all was good until reports came that then refusing to give supermax was the last straw... During that off season, the media were all reporting that Kawhi would sign back to the Spurs before the supermax debacle) he is gonna say "fuck it then... I wanna go home"


Too many assumptions, particularly in nephews favor. Spurs are known for NOT dealing with players through the media. When Pop said, “you’ll have to ask his camp”, that is when it was evident that Kawhi was done communicating with spurs... only then did thing become more public and even to this day, Pop hasn’t thrown him under the bus. Your stance is so flawed. If you really want to defend Kawhi, you HAVE to concede on a few things. You have absolutely no credibility. You just sound like an 11 year old homer.

[duncan2k5]

You're filling in too many holes. It was common knowledge that the Spurs wanted to rule Leonard out for the season but Leonard's camp refused. That's why game by game he was DNP Injury Management.

Yes... Because Kawhi genuinely wanted to come back... Or else he would have said he wanted out... There was nothing to gain by pretending he was coming back... But by the way the Spurs handled the situation... He said "fuck it"... Kawhi nor his camp ever said anything publicly... If it were reversed and the Spurs were quiet while Kawhi and everyone associated with him were bashing them, yall would call him classless

[apalisoc_9]

that usage rate is ugly. Even lebon highest rate is 33. George return should help lower that.


loveforthegame

[duncan2k5]

Too many assumptions, particularly in nephews favor. Spurs are known for NOT dealing with players through the media. When Pop said, “you’ll have to ask his camp”, that is when it was evident that Kawhi was done communicating with spurs... only then did thing become more public and even to this day, Pop hasn’t thrown him under the bus. Your stance is so flawed. If you really want to defend Kawhi, you HAVE to concede on a few things. You have absolutely no credibility. You just sound like an 11 year old homer.

EVERYONE took it as pop throwing shots instead of standing up for his star player and saying Kawhi is taking his time (which he clearly was, since his very next season he was still visibly injured) ...

Manu and Parker throwing shots... Bowen throwing shots, Robinson throwing shots... Let's stop pretending as if while it was happening we weren't looking at it as such... The Spurs are so glorious in yall eyes... They could call ur mother a b*tch and u might agree with them

They put their loyalty to Manu and Parker over Kawhi... Period... They gambled and lost... Pop went as far as to needlessly say Kawhi isn't a leader long after he left the team... Imagine if Kawhi needlessly said pop wasn't a good leader long after he left the Spurs... Yall would Bash him...

[duncan2k5]

that usage rate is ugly. Even lebon highest rate is 33. George return should help lower that.


loveforthegame

Have u seen nba stars usage rates lately? I think hardens was in the 40s last year

[apalisoc_9]

Have u seen nba stars usage rates lately? I think hardens was in the 40s last year

Harden is a loser and a fraud for a reason. Stat padder extrodinaire

[TheSpurglar]

EVERYONE took it as pop throwing shots

At Kawhi's camp. Not Kawhi.


instead of standing up for his star player and saying Kawhi is taking his time (which he clearly was, since his very next season he was still visibly injured) ...

Is Pop supposed to be a soothsayer now? He answered a question he was asked in the moment. He didn't have the information because Kawhi's camp was withholding it. Thus, his answer.


Manu and Parker throwing shots... Bowen throwing shots, Robinson throwing shots... Let's stop pretending as if while it was happening we weren't looking at it as such... The Spurs are so glorious in yall eyes... They could call ur mother a b*tch and u might agree with them

And clearly Kawhi could get down with your mother and you'd still be slurping. Manu saying, "We have to stop believing the media and move on as if he's not coming back." is a shot? Explain how.

Parker's quote could be considered a shot, though pretty sure he clarified it and apologized. But as multiple people have stated, if that was all it took for Kawhi not to re-sign then he was already leaving (which he clearly was, since his very next season he left a championship Raptors team... see how that works?)


They put their loyalty to Manu and Parker over Kawhi... Period... They gambled and lost... Pop went as far as to needlessly say Kawhi isn't a leader long after he left the team... Imagine if Kawhi needlessly said pop wasn't a good leader long after he left the Spurs... Yall would Bash him...

Pop didn't say it in a vacuum, he was asked a question. Pretty sure the question was whether he was a leader while on the Spurs, also. And Pop just said, "Not really." Because he wasn't at that time. This is why you have no credibility. You gloss over things Kawhi and his camp did, and blow things Pop and the Spurs did out of proportion. Slurrrrrrp.

[manufan10]

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[Kori Ellis]

1188781889026514944

His d-bag status is rising. He's trying to trademark "What it do baby," a phrase I've heard players (and others) saying since 2003.
And trying to trademark "city views over interviews" -- has he ever even said that? I get it, he's trying to make clothing lines and avoid the issue he had with the Klaw logo, but... It's like LeBron and Taco Tuesday all over again.

[RC_Drunkford]

His d-bag status is rising. He's trying to trademark "What it do baby," a phrase I've heard players (and others) saying since 2003.
And trying to trademark "city views over interviews" -- has he ever even said that? I get it, he's trying to make clothing lines and avoid the issue he had with the Klaw logo, but... It's like LeBron and Taco Tuesday all over again.

lmao might as well hire Paul Wall. He been saying What it do Baby since 2005 lol

[dbreiden83080]

He was my favorite player, combined with the recent moves the FO has been doing... Of COURSE I'm pissed... And they didn't "just ask him to play"... They publicly threw him under the bus because they didn't believe him... All because they were so desperate to give Manu and Parker one last deep championship run... They chose the legacy of their old guys over the health of their new star... And didn't back him up when he felt like his body wasn't right

Why do u think so many former stars took Kawhi's side? They ALL had horror stories of doctors clearing players when they weren't healthy... That same year they cleared green to play when he still had issues, and they had Gasol playing with a broken foot...

U have to give ur star the benefit of the doubt if they say they don't feel right... And it's not like he went to Toronto the following year and showed anything different... He was CLEARLY hurt... In a contract year... No player would want the perception to be that he has a serious injury in a contract year... That's indication that he actually was feeling too much pain to play comfortably on a consistent basis... During his 9 games there were ppl on here saying he may have been brought back too soon...


So naturally if u throw ur star under the bus publicly, then refuse to give him the supermax after throwing money at patty, Gasol and LMA (remember all was good until reports came that then refusing to give supermax was the last straw... During that off season, the media were all reporting that Kawhi would sign back to the Spurs before the supermax debacle) he is gonna say "fuck it then... I wanna go home"


He lost the faith and the trust of his team-mates other than Danny, who is a suck up that was carrying his bags at that point. The team believed that he pussied out and quit on them. He is lucky Duncan was not around when this went down. It would have been 10 times worse. Tim would have given that idiot ZERO respect for refusing to man the fuck up. Had Number 2 pulled that shit in Toronto it would have been the same result. The team would have hated him.. He is in LA now with massive expectations. Watch him even try that shit in LA, and see what happens. The team, media, the fans will fucking eat him alive.. You talk about "Spin". The truth is this douchebag quit on the Spurs. He did it because he wanted to be traded to the Lakers.. When that did NOT happen he had no choice but to suck it up for 1 year in Toronto. They showered him with love and affection winning a title, and he gave ZERO Fucks. He used them in FA to get the Clippers to better their team. This dude is a robot and a diva. Fuck him.. He will hear BOOOOO!!! for the rest of his career when he visits SA. And he earned that..

[dbreiden83080]

This subject is a hill duncan2k5 will die on. I would just forget about it and move on. This dude has no joy with the Spurs and someday maybe he will realize that hes wasted his energy defending that douchebag on this forum. It will probably take years though.

You know what Timmy is my Fav player of all time. During the heyday with the Spurs there is no athlete I loved more.. But had he pulled this BS and left the team, I would have been forced to see the light. Move on and support other Spurs. Leonard is not worthy of any Spurs fan love anymore. He more than earned the Boos..

[tbdog]

Yes... Because Kawhi genuinely wanted to come back... Or else he would have said he wanted out... There was nothing to gain by pretending he was coming back... But by the way the Spurs handled the situation... He said "fuck it"... Kawhi nor his camp ever said anything publicly... If it were reversed and the Spurs were quiet while Kawhi and everyone associated with him were bashing them, yall would call him classless

You don't think the Spurs were just reacting to Leonard's group? All leaks were that Leonard's group was in contact with Spurs but not Leonard. And that one time when Spurs staff went to see him in NY, his group hid him. The Spurs were trying to compete and their franchise player wasn't reporting to training. Only for the photo shoot he turned up. Uncle getting upset over Parkers comments was a desperate attempt for them to create a narrative. When Uncle requested the trade, the Spurs couldn't contact him. He was avoiding the exit meeting which he had a contract obligation to meet. Pop and Timmy flew to NY and Leonard wasn't there. Then they flew to San Diego.

The Spurs biggest mistake was not making the trade on or just after draft day, because all off season decisions were made based on the fact Leonard and Green were in the team.

[duncan2k5]

Spurs were the only ones saying anything publicly... They handled the situation poorly and we all know if Kawhi or his camp were the ones being public and taking shots at a quiet spurs, we would Bash them...

There were reports that Kawhi's ppl were frustrated because they felt like they were being upfront with the Spurs because in front their face the Spurs would say they understand and support Kawhi, then the next day they would see them taking shots in the media...

Kawhi didn't quit on the team... He was injured... That was very clear when he went to Toronto... He had every reason to shut it down if his intention was to not get hurt for the next team

[tbdog]

Spurs were the only ones saying anything publicly... They handled the situation poorly and we all know if Kawhi or his camp were the ones being public and taking shots at a quiet spurs, we would Bash them...

There were reports that Kawhi's ppl were frustrated because they felt like they were being upfront with the Spurs because in front their face the Spurs would say they understand and support Kawhi, then the next day they would see them taking shots in the media...

Kawhi didn't quit on the team... He was injured... That was very clear when he went to Toronto... He had every reason to shut it down if his intention was to not get hurt for the next team

That's not how it went down. Spurs diagnosed Leonard's injury. He was unhappy with the diagnosis as he was receiving pain the day after a game. He asked for a second opinion and the Spurs let him go. Spurs announced Leonard was out indefinitely. 7 second opinions later, Leonard finds the a doctor his is happy with and start rehabbing. Uncle does not update Spurs enough, hence why Spurs were announcing Leonard out day by day.

It was coming up towards the end of the season and the Spurs asked the group if they can announced Leonard out for the season. The group say no. That's why by the end of the season, Pop and the players were being snarky. 'Will Leonard be back for the playoffs?' asked a reporter. 'You will need to asking his group that,' said Pop.

Remember Leonard was listed out game by game going to the last week of the regular season. If anything, Spurs were too kind with Leonard's group and should take more ownership of their max player.

[Joseph Kony]

Spurs were the only ones saying anything publicly... They handled the situation poorly and we all know if Kawhi or his camp were the ones being public and taking shots at a quiet spurs, we would Bash them...

There were reports that Kawhi's ppl were frustrated because they felt like they were being upfront with the Spurs because in front their face the Spurs would say they understand and support Kawhi, then the next day they would see them taking shots in the media...

Kawhi didn't quit on the team... He was injured... That was very clear when he went to Toronto... He had every reason to shut it down if his intention was to not get hurt for the next team
shut up already faggot

[ZeusWillJudge]

His d-bag status is rising. He's trying to trademark "What it do baby," a phrase I've heard players (and others) saying since 2003.
And trying to trademark "city views over interviews" -- has he ever even said that? I get it, he's trying to make clothing lines and avoid the issue he had with the Klaw logo, but... It's like LeBron and Taco Tuesday all over again.


To be fair, he only applied for these after they denied his request to trademark the word "Uhhhhh".

[gospursgojas]

1188781889026514944

Classic Uncle Dennisry

[loveforthegame]

Leonard with another ho-hum performance.

30pts, 7rbs, 6as, 2stls, 3blks

https://mobile.twitter.com/jovanbuha/status/1189042239315402753

[SpurPadre]

Clips will be on the 2nd of a back to back when we play them Thursday. Does that mean load management for Load Management? That'll be very interesting to see.

[GreekSpursfan]

This thread is still a thing, kill it already.

[Dejounte]

Leonard with another ho-hum performance.

30pts, 7rbs, 6as, 2stls, 3blks

https://mobile.twitter.com/jovanbuha/status/1189042239315402753

The game was already out of reach in the 4th when the Clips were up 20 and Kawhi was still in. Dude was stat padding

[r0drig0lac]

Leonard with another ho-hum performance.

30pts, 7rbs, 6as, 2stls, 3blks

https://mobile.twitter.com/jovanbuha/status/1189042239315402753

this is the only missing prize in his NBA career, he will probably receive the mvp this year.

[apalisoc_9]

The game was already out of reach in the 4th when the Clips were up 20 and Kawhi was still in. Dude was stat padding

stat padding? hes averaging 28mpg :lol

[Dejounte]

stat padding? hes averaging 28mpg :lol

What does that have to do with my comment on this particular game? Why am i not surprised that you have no reading comprehension?

[emmo]

I hope he averages 30 points this season, right up until his quad tendon snaps and he never plays again. What it do, baby.

[tapiefan]

this is the only missing prize in his NBA career, he will probably receive the mvp this year.

Dont forget the Olympics.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I hope he averages 30 points this season, right up until his quad tendon snaps and he never plays again. What it do, baby.


:lol Perfect!

[exstatic]

I guess that his KLAWsuit didn't pan out.

[MultiTroll]

Raptors' Kawhi Leonard on 'Klaw' Lawsuit vs. Nike: 'Not a Big Worry of Mine'

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2839485-raptors-kawhi-leonard-on-klaw-lawsuit-vs-nike-not-a-big-worry-of-mine

[exstatic]

Raptors' Kawhi Leonard on 'Klaw' Lawsuit vs. Nike: 'Not a Big Worry of Mine'

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2839485-raptors-kawhi-leonard-on-klaw-lawsuit-vs-nike-not-a-big-worry-of-mine

That's a really old article to embed. June? Really?

I'm guessing that by requesting the new trademarks, he and Uncle D-Bag got their asses handed to them by Nike.

[MultiTroll]

^ meh article bought out how Balmer offered to pay off the Nike bitches for logo rights.
Since it appears he did not, probably helping Kwa with some high priced legal counsel to go against Nikes liarwyers.

Point being it doesn't matter that much. Very low priority. He's able to continue on with another Championship pursuit.

[exstatic]

^ meh article bought out how Balmer offered to pay off the Nike bitches for logo rights.
Since it appears he did not, probably helping Kwa with some high priced legal counsel to go against Nikes liarwyers.

Point being it doesn't matter that much. Very low priority. He's able to continue on with another Championship pursuit.

Nike has more money than Balmer, and probably meaner lawyers. It also MUST matter to The Group, or they wouldn't be suing, and actively trying to have Nike's suit thrown out. Good luck with that.

[duncan2k5]

The game was already out of reach in the 4th when the Clips were up 20 and Kawhi was still in. Dude was stat padding

I guarantee you... ANY superstar has been in the game up 20 in the 4th...even Duncan... But that goes against ur narrative, so carry on

[duncan2k5]

Nike has more money than Balmer, and probably meaner lawyers. It also MUST matter to The Group, or they wouldn't be suing, and actively trying to have Nike's suit thrown out. Good luck with that.

I can pretty much guarantee when Kawhi is balling, the last thing on his mind is a logo... He isn't wasting sleep wondering if he will win the case or not... Lol

[exstatic]

I can pretty much guarantee when Kawhi is balling, the last thing on his mind is a logo... He isn't wasting sleep wondering if he will win the case or not... Lol

RIF. I didn't say "Kawhi", I said The Group, which is who is running things.

[MoSpur02]

According to ESPN, Kawhi will rest tonight against Utah and will play tomorrow night versus the Spurs.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1189590096460124161?s=19

More #LoadOfCrapManagement? :lol

I thought he had NO restrictions? :lmao

[raybies]

Doc with a Power move lol he wants us

[exstatic]

Doc with a Power move lol he wants us

Then we play DJ, and rest him against GS.

[raybies]

Then we play DJ, and rest him against GS.
Hopefully pop doesn’t try to be tricky and rest Dj

[exstatic]

Maybe The Group should trademark Load Management and use that to sell his clothing line. :lol

[MoSpur02]

Maybe The Group should trademark Load Management and use that to sell his clothing line. :lol

:lol

[apalisoc_9]

The NBA needs to do something. Either havee their camp admit whats actually happening or force Leonard to play. Silver said its not gonna be issue moving forward

[exstatic]

Load Management Apparel, LTD.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Maybe The Group should trademark Load Management and use that to sell his clothing line. :lol

Nice!

He could also add Depends to his list of sponsors. That tagline would fit in perfectly.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Doc with a Power move lol he wants us

Hopefully that will backfire on him and he'll lose both. Doc obviously sees SA as the more winnable game. Looks like Kawhi will be sitting out back-to-backs...at least until we're at a more critical juncture of the season.

[K...]

Is kawhi the biggest Star in the league? No Durant, Curry losing games, LeBron could come back if the Lakers make the playoffs but it seems like a shift has occurred. I never thought kawhi and his insular gang could be marketed as a star but it's almost he's the MVP by default.

I guess there's harden and giannis. But they both feel knocked down a bit. The downfall of Eastern conf LeBron and the warriors is really going to destroy some naratives of stars who can't win in the void of power house teams.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Is kawhi the biggest Star in the league? No Durant, Curry losing games, LeBron could come back if the Lakers make the playoffs but it seems like a shift has occurred. I never thought kawhi and his insular gang could be marketed as a star but it's almost he's the MVP by default.

I guess there's harden and giannis. But they both feel knocked down a bit. The downfall of Eastern conf LeBron and the warriors is really going to destroy some naratives of stars who can't win in the void of power house teams.

Timing is everything, and Kawhi winning the title with the Raps last year added to the perfect storm for his fame to rise. Durant and/or Thompson don't get hurt, the narrative changes. A lot of things had to fall right for this to all materialize for Kawhi, but it has...so good for him I suppose.

[Fireball]

just look at nba.com ... the highlight videos on league pass ... he is the media focus right now

[exstatic]

Is kawhi the biggest Star in the league? No Durant, Curry losing games, LeBron could come back if the Lakers make the playoffs but it seems like a shift has occurred. I never thought kawhi and his insular gang could be marketed as a star but it's almost he's the MVP by default.

I guess there's harden and giannis. But they both feel knocked down a bit. The downfall of Eastern conf LeBron and the warriors is really going to destroy some naratives of stars who can't win in the void of power house teams.

I can guarantee that if he plays 60 games again, he has zero chance at MVP.

[exstatic]

Hopefully that will backfire on him and he'll lose both. Doc obviously sees SA as the more winnable game. Looks like Kawhi will be sitting out back-to-backs...at least until we're at a more critical juncture of the season.

That's what Toronto thought, too. Didn't happen. If he's STILL sitting out back to backs, it's the new norm for him, and will continue. I would think that if he were to play B2Bs, early in the season when he's freshly off rest would be better than later in the season.

[Harry Callahan]

Neph is only committed to LAC for 2 years. He and his group call the shots about when he plays - Just like last year.

[J_Paco]

Neph is only committed to LAC for 2 years. He and his group call the shots about when he plays - Just like last year.

He and his group have become as power hungry as any "posse/team/group" I've seen in the NBA. And technically, he pulled this shit with the Spurs here first (deciding when to play).

Fucking pathetic, especially when you realize he's never, ever been a heavy minutes player in his career. I know they are flying high and have huge expectations for once, but I wonder if LAC will eventually have buyer's remorse?

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/spencechecketts/status/1189604782513635328?s=19

This dude is a clown

[GAustex]

https://twitter.com/spencechecketts/status/1189604782513635328?s=19

This dude is a clown
You’d take him in a heartbeat if you could work it.

[LkrFan]

You’d take him in a heartbeat if you could work it.

Nope. Like Lonzo and LaVar, I wouldn't want him because of his Uncle Fester.

He's a good talent, but not worth the headache.

Boiled down: I'm good with where my Lakers are without Kiwi. :tu

[Maddog]

Maybe The Group should trademark Load Management and use that to sell his clothing line. :lol


Load Management Apparel, LTD.
:clap
Awesome
Now there's something Nike will let him have.:lol

[DAF86]

https://twitter.com/spencechecketts/status/1189604782513635328?s=19

This dude is a clown

Fucking asshole saving himself for us. :cry

[LkrFan]

Fucking asshole saving himself for us. :cry

I actually believe the Spurs will beat them. Pop >>>> Doc tbh.

[DAF86]

I actually believe the Spurs will beat them. Pop >>>> Doc tbh.

We losing by 20+ son.

[dbreiden83080]

https://twitter.com/spencechecketts/status/1189604782513635328?s=19

This dude is a clown

3 games into the season and he needs a rest SMH..

[99 Problems]

He’ll win them a chip and as the buyer you couldn’t give a giant size buffalo crap about buyers remorse if he and Uncle Denny walk once the LOB is in the cabinet. Good luck to the Clippers.

[Maddog]

Timing is everything, and Kawhi winning the title with the Raps last year added to the perfect storm for his fame to rise. Durant and/or Thompson don't get hurt, the narrative changes. A lot of things had to fall right for this to all materialize for Kawhi, but it has...so good for him I suppose.
A breath away from going down 3-0 to the Bucks
7 game series win against the 76ers
Then finals against a team with their best player out and another severely limited.




The NBA needs to do something. Either havee their camp admit whats actually happening or force Leonard to play. Silver said its not gonna be issue moving forward

This brings up the question that has never been answered- what is his diagnosis? Why is he still limited after 2 years for a non-surgical injury?
Also, the whole story about (verified by several sources ) of going to multiple doctors...

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT5LdUA7bwU

[Ginobilly]

I agree with that video. Also you could tell kawhi learned some moves n passing from ginobilly and tp. That spin move he did on Durant in the 2014 wcf was parkeresqe.

[Ginobilly]

Kawhi's top of the 3 point line pick n roll game and his triple threat stance is very ginobliesqe is you really start paying attention to the way he mixes up his game. So far I've seen kawhi mimic Jordans game in the post, Duncan moves, Kobes, Gino's, Parker's. Those are the main ones I can think of. Kawhi is a good student of the game.

[KayBee]

Load Management Apparel, LTD.

Problem is, you can't wear their shoes on back-to-back days.

[Budkin]

Skip officially forgives Nephew

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[Budkin]

Fucking asshole saving himself for us. :cry

You know he's gonna go off tonight after what happened here last year with the Raps.

[John B]

Skip officially forgives Nephew

1189916855428882432
Jumping the bandwagon. What a deuce :lol

[exstatic]

You know he's gonna go off tonight after what happened here last year with the Raps.

I don't give a shit. He almost lost both games to us last year, and should have. He's got no room to complain about the Spurs and he knows what a shit he and his group have been. White did a great job on him, and I expect that to continue. I'd also love to shove resting him in Utah down Doc's throat.

[Mugen]

I don't give a shit. He almost lost both games to us last year, and should have. He's got no room to complain about the Spurs and he knows what a shit he and his group have been. White did a great job on him, and I expect that to continue. I'd also love to shove resting him in Utah down Doc's throat.

Agreed, I think DWhite will do a good job on him for the 20mins he plays tonight :lol

[exstatic]

Agreed, I think DWhite will do a good job on him for the 20mins he plays tonight :lol

Depends if DJ plays tonight or tomorrow night. If DJ is out, White will likely start and play minutes.

[Mugen]

Depends if DJ plays tonight or tomorrow night. If DJ is out, White will likely start and play minutes.

Dejounte is playing tonight which means it's pretty much a guarantee DWhite sees less than 25 minutes. Hopefully Derozan, Marco, and the rest of the gang can keep nephew in check for the rest of time :lol

[Genovaswitness]

I don't give a shit. He almost lost both games to us last year, and should have. He's got no room to complain about the Spurs and he knows what a shit he and his group have been. White did a great job on him, and I expect that to continue. I'd also love to shove resting him in Utah down Doc's throat.

I actually really liked it when he made demar look like a punk bitch to win the game tbh. showed him he will NEVER EVER come close to him on any level, as a player or a human being

[r0drig0lac]

Skip officially forgives Nephew

1189916855428882432

cringe

[exstatic]

I actually really liked it when he made demar look like a punk bitch to win the game tbh. showed him he will NEVER EVER come close to him on any level, as a player or a human being

Of course you did, cupcake. And no, Demar will never ever come close to the depths to which Kawhi has sunk as a human being.

[exstatic]

Just watched a clip from Grantland with Jalen Rose about athletes going broke, and JR said the three fastest ways to lose money are: record label, restaurant, and clothing line. Nike may be accidentally saving Load Management from his uncle's ideas by denying him the Klaw logo.

[Genovaswitness]

Just watched a clip from Grantland with Jalen Rose about athletes going broke, and JR said the three fastest ways to lose money are: record label, restaurant, and clothing line. Nike may be accidentally saving Load Management from his uncle's ideas by denying him the Klaw logo.

borderline psychotic fantasy of kawhi going broke :lmao

whatever helps you sleep at night :lmao

[exstatic]

borderline psychotic fantasy of kawhi going broke :lmao

whatever helps you sleep at night :lmao

It's not like I want him to go broke, but he's right in that sweet spot, with his family all up in everything and running the show, where you can certainly see it happening. They don't seem like quality people, born out by his sister murdering that lady at the casino.

[Gianna]

This is a really good article about Kawhi and his father. To go through all that at 17, it’s heartbreaking. He has an insane force of will.

Looking for closure

https://www.nba.com/amp/league/article/2019/10/29/mark-leonard-kawhi-leonard-feature (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/league/article/2019/10/29/mark-leonard-kawhi-leonard-feature)

[lefty]

:lol the saltiness in this tbread

[Genovaswitness]

kawhi punked Demar again :lmao

[loveforthegame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/FlyByKnite/status/1190148225061113858

https://mobile.twitter.com/FlyByKnite/status/1190149067201843202

https://mobile.twitter.com/LAClippers/status/1190147552240263168

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I thought they defended him well throwing different looks. He scored 38 on 32 shots which isn’t a great efficiency.

[Genovaswitness]

kawhi and pop talking and laughing after the game :cry

[bic50]

Just watched a clip from Grantland with Jalen Rose about athletes going broke, and JR said the three fastest ways to lose money are: record label, restaurant, and clothing line. Nike may be accidentally saving Load Management from his uncle's ideas by denying him the Klaw logo.
Salty :lol

[Brazil]

I hope he averages 30 points this season, right up until his quad tendon snaps and he never plays again. What it do, baby.

:lol

[apalisoc_9]

:lol

Hes averaging 30 right now. dude might be on to something

[Genovaswitness]

I would pay decent cash for somebody to photoshop a spurs uniform on kawhi for all of this year’s kawhi lights.

watching him pick somebody’s pocket and getting a transition dunk while demar implodes every game because he’s mentally weak (probably has some shitty nipsey hussle song playing in his head) is horrible

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy0nIAaR-VM

[SpurPadre]

Meanwhile, this faggot is skipping tomorrow's game vs. the Bucks.

[Laker_1995]

Meanwhile, this faggot is skipping tomorrow's game vs. the Bucks.

sucks really wanted to see him against Giannis

[dbreiden83080]

Meanwhile, this faggot is skipping tomorrow's game vs. the Bucks.

If I am being fair, this is what happens when the league makes the playoffs 2 fucking months long.. They have brought this on themselves..

[Kurgan]

If I am being fair, this is what happens when the league makes the playoffs 2 fucking months long.. They have brought this on themselves..

I always preferred the first round when it was a best of 5 series. Every series being a 7 games series is overkill imo.

[dbreiden83080]

I always preferred the first round when it was a best of 5 series. Every series being a 7 games series is overkill imo.

Round 1 should be best of 3.. Get the scrub ass teams out of there, and put the pressure on like the 4/5 seeds. In this era the extra long playoffs backfired on the league with the reg season..

[dbreiden83080]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy0nIAaR-VM

How many times did Michael Jordan sit on his ass when he was perfectly healthy for a nationally televised game against the Knicks? This load management bullshit is killing the NBA. They have to start heavily fining teams or find another way around it.

[exstatic]

If I am being fair, this is what happens when the league makes the playoffs 2 fucking months long.. They have brought this on themselves..

Plenty of players manage that, and still play 75+ games in the RS.

[Genovaswitness]

through it all it’s hilarious how asspained kawhi gets the league/its “fans”. he literally does not give a FUCK about anything other than winning. our coach used to be the same way once upon a time..

[SpurPadre]

through it all it’s hilarious how asspained kawhi gets the league/its “fans”. he literally does not give a FUCK about anything other than winning. our coach used to be the same way once upon a time..

He doesn't care about "winning" today's game, tbh.

[Genovaswitness]

He doesn't care about "winning" today's game, tbh.

he cares about winning the finals. this is the defending finals MVP, all he knows is that LOB mentality...something the spurs have lost sight of with sacks of shit like demar and lapussy

[Yogatti]

he cares about winning the finals. this is the defending finals MVP, all he knows is that LOB mentality...something the spurs have lost sight of with sacks of shit like demar and lapussy

:lmao

[SpurPadre]

he cares about winning the finals. this is the defending finals MVP, all he knows is that LOB mentality...something the spurs have lost sight of with sacks of shit like demar and lapussy

Defending Finals MVP against a Dubs team missing Durant and Klay Thompson. Look at the Dubs now. One of the weakest Championships of all-time, tbh.

[Genovaswitness]

Defending Finals MVP against a Dubs team missing Durant and Klay Thompson. Look at the Dubs now. One of the weakest Championships of all-time, tbh.

cant choose who you play. 2x finals mvp, 2x DPOY, about to get another finals MVP with a new team..the new GOAT..

[Collins21]

cant choose who you play. 2x finals mvp, 2x DPOY, about to get another finals MVP with a new team..the new GOAT..

I've never rooted for Lebron and still can't but if somehow the Clippers lose to the Lakers and Kawhi shrivels against Alpha males I'm going to say I told you so.

[Genovaswitness]

I've never rooted for Lebron and still can't but if somehow the Clippers lose to the Lakers and Kawhi shrivels against Alpha males I'm going to say I told you so.

Lebron “delonte West is my dad” james

lebron “I don’t think they was very educated” james

lebron “cramps with no AC while old man Duncan and manu play just fine” james

lebron “throwing himself into a camera” james


Lebron is the antithesis of an alpha male :lmao

[manufan10]

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[Genovaswitness]

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Mainstream NBA fans in shambles. “Stars” like harden and giannis can fight for piddly shit regular season awards...real champs wait until the finals..

[manufan10]

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[K...]

Of course they're not going to sanction the face of the league.

Also lol on kawhi wanting to win when he left two championship rosters to return to South California. It'll work out for him because the world isn't fair, but it doesn't mean a damn thing. Kawhi sure didn't want to win the year he quit the Spurs (and remember, Uncle would have him sitout 2018 too).

[loveforthegame]

Wait. I thought he was faking his injuries this whole time?

The league really covering for this guy?

[J_Paco]

Wait. I thought he was faking his injuries this whole time?

The league really covering for this guy?

He has a degenerative issue in his left quad/knee, so all his hobbling and limping (in Toronto & while walking off the plane w/ San Antonio) are indicative of that. He'll be "load managed" for the reminder of his career and anyone who opposes his view point will be screwed (ala the Spurs).

[Yogatti]

Of course they're not going to sanction the face of the league.

Also lol on kawhi wanting to win when he left two championship rosters to return to South California. It'll work out for him because the world isn't fair, but it doesn't mean a damn thing. Kawhi sure didn't want to win the year he quit the Spurs (and remember, Uncle would have him sitout 2018 too).

He was limping during the ECF. He could've just quit and sat out the rest of the playoffs especially since it was contract year for him but he kept playing and won a title.

[Yogatti]

Lebron “delonte West is my dad” james

lebron “I don’t think they was very educated” james

lebron “cramps with no AC while old man Duncan and manu play just fine” james

lebron “throwing himself into a camera” james


Lebron is the antithesis of an alpha male :lmao

:lmao

Collins21 with another sh*tty take

[Beartrucci]

Good on Doris Burke for calling out Kawhi on this bullshit. Sitting vs. Giannis on a national TV game :lol

She’s right. This is becoming a problem for the league

[Genovaswitness]

Good on Doris Burke for calling out Kawhi on this bullshit. Sitting vs. Giannis on a national TV game :lol

She’s right. This is becoming a problem for the league

Menopause hot flash take tbh. remember when she cried on air because pop was mean to her :cry. he’s been kissing her ass ever since

[Laker_1995]

Lebron “delonte West is my dad” james

lebron “I don’t think they was very educated” james

lebron “cramps with no AC while old man Duncan and manu play just fine” james

lebron “throwing himself into a camera” james


Lebron is the antithesis of an alpha male :lmao

I have no clue who you are but I’m 100% sure your a fucken virgin

[Beartrucci]

I have no clue who you are but I’m 100% sure your a fucken virgin

he’s definitely some pathetic troll’s alt, that’s for sure

[Yogatti]

Menopause hot flash take tbh. remember when she cried on air because pop was mean to her :cry. he’s been kissing her ass ever since
:lol

All of sudden people care about what that ugly dyke has to say :lmao

[Collins21]

:lmao

Collins21 with another sh*tty take

As opposed to Kawhi who's a phoney. This dude has all this personality now that he's in LA but acting like something he wasn't in SA. People say "well the Spurs won't allow players to show their personalities" meanwhile Dejounte came in the door being himself and exhibiting leadership qualities while your MCM hid behind his fucking uncle. Say what you will about LeBron but the dude came in doing things his way not faking a whole persona.

[SpurPadre]

He was limping during the ECF. He could've just quit and sat out the rest of the playoffs especially since it was contract year for him but he kept playing and won a title.

It would've been pretty stupid to have quit then when the Warriors had legitimate injuries to their best players and were begging to be taken out.

[spurspl]

kawhi made the best decision for himself, he noticed that he would not win another title with this organization. He wants to win he wants to become better and better. Spurs has no future, no trades nor top draft picks. With whom he would have to play? There were no player in spurs who would be a real support to him. Before goin to clippers he said that they were not good enough (they were much much better than spurs last season) to sign him. So they had to bring a paul george. Dont blame him, blame PATFO.

[Genovaswitness]

I have no clue who you are but I’m 100% sure your a fucken virgin

lakers 1995..guarantee you never saw the three peat lakers :lmao

Lebron is the softest media created Star ever. Resume replete with welfare championships. victim mentality from when he was gifted hummers in high school to needing help with the lakers in the form of Anthony Davis. still 3-6 in the finals and 1-2 against the spurs :lmao


he’s definitely some pathetic troll’s alt, that’s for sure

The one and only.


:lol

All of sudden people care about what that ugly dyke has to say :lmao

B-but she played point guard at providence :cry

[Degoat]

No all time great players would ever would miss as many games as kawhi has, if he’s really hurt by the time he’s 30 he’ll be damaged goods

[Genovaswitness]

No all time great players would ever would miss as many games as kawhi has, if he’s really hurt by the time he’s 30 he’ll be damaged goods

Would rather deal with kawhis “damaged goods” en route to a championship over trying to placate psycho freak demar tbh

[SpurPadre]

kawhi made the best decision for himself, he noticed that he would not win another title with this organization. He wants to win he wants to become better and better. Spurs has no future, no trades nor top draft picks. With whom he would have to play? There were no player in spurs who would be a real support to him. Before goin to clippers he said that they were not good enough (they were much much better than spurs last season) to sign him. So they had to bring a paul george. Dont blame him, blame PATFO.

Except that he WOULD have won more titles with the Spurs. Murray and White were already there. Imagine that defensive trio on the floor together? Oh, and we did make it to the WCF
in '17 with pretty much the same team until the Zaza Pachulia thing happened. No excuses, he bitched out the team because he is a piece of shit faggot that let his uncle brainwash him, end of story.

[Degoat]

Would rather deal with kawhis “damaged goods” en route to a championship over trying to placate psycho freak demar tbh

spurs 5 championships >>> kawhis 2, I’m okay with just having entertaining basketball while we develop are young guys

[dbreiden83080]

Plenty of players manage that, and still play 75+ games in the RS.

Well we all know Leonard is a pussy..

And you are pretty much correct...

[apalisoc_9]

Well we all know Leonard is a pussy..

And you are pretty much correct...

Spurs basically said he should be able to manage. its ironic but I think if hes in a spurs uniform right now the spurs will make him play b2b.

But the NYC doctor believes there is a cure when obviously there isnt.

At this point...its all mental now..He has it on the back of his head that any season where plays 70+ games = injury

[spurspl]

Except that he WOULD have won more titles with the Spurs. Murray and White were already there. Imagine that defensive trio on the floor together? Oh, and we did make it to the WCF
in '17 with pretty much the same team until the Zaza Pachulia thing happened. No excuses, he bitched out the team because he is a piece of shit faggot that let his uncle brainwash him, end of story.

yes we were in wcf but the clock is ticking and lma or green will be worse bc of age and kawhi is in his prime and will be in a couple of yrs.
murray white? dont be funny. Now he has paul george, beverly, lou and harrell + lac are more keen on doing trades and are more active on a FA market than spurs.

[B1gduff]

Lamo Kawhi coped the entire arena into the Spurs colors! dude's trying to make it spurs like as much as possible......Due probably wishes he was playing with Dj and White.

Also didn't he say he was 100%, hasn't felt this good in a couple years.

[Collins21]

yes we were in wcf but the clock is ticking and lma or green will be worse bc of age and kawhi is in his prime and will be in a couple of yrs.
murray white? dont be funny. Now he has paul george, beverly, lou and harrell + lac are more keen on doing trades and are more active on a FA market than spurs.

I've yet to read a post of yours that makes any sense. If you're sitting here telling me that a team of Leonard, Green , Murray, White and Aldridge isn't Better than the current clippers team idk what to say.

[EP Money Man]

Who the fuck is a Clippers fan?

It’s like being a Jets fan, gross.

[John B]

Tell me when he tear a tendon. Other than that, I don’t care.

[manufan10]

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[Dex]

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[exstatic]

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They should have fired him 2 years ago when it became clear that his personal agenda and financial issues precluded objectivity in the Kawhi situation. I can't imagine that they actually saw the light on this issue, so he was probably just fired for being the dick that he's commonly known to be.

[GreekSpursfan]

Uncle D is toying with everybody, he's always one step ahead of the other superstar players. He put his nephew in very good position, he's in a loaded team yet again which helps his load management bs. He knows that a fresh nephew will always be better than anyone else in the post season since the others are fucking up their body (the human body needs all the rest it can get and is not easy to recover for those who actually know about this stuff) in a marathon like the NBA regular season. Uncle D i salute you.

[DC23]

Kawhi is a real scum. Instead of a likely win last night against the Bucks, Kawhi took the night off and Harrell & Lou Williams each played 40 minutes. And now they play again tonight. I would be frustrated if I were Kawhi's teammates.

[exstatic]

Kawhi is a real scum. Instead of a likely win last night against the Bucks, Kawhi took the night off and Harrell & Lou Williams each played 40 minutes. And now they play again tonight. I would be frustrated if I were Kawhi's teammates.

He'd better continue to get lucky bounces and dodge healthy teams in the playoffs, or this is the last full boat contract he will ever get.

[Genovaswitness]

He'd better continue to get lucky bounces and dodge healthy teams in the playoffs, or this is the last full boat contract he will ever get.

you’re gonna have a lot of fun watching him get his third finals MVP :lmao

[exstatic]

you’re gonna have a lot of fun watching him get his third finals MVP :lmao

I don't think I'd be penciling that in just yet. 16-8 is a pretty damned unimpressive road to the LoB. Lucky bounces and injured teams.

[Genovaswitness]

I don't think I'd be penciling that in just yet. 16-8 is a pretty damned unimpressive road to the LoB. Lucky bounces and injured teams.

If my aunt had a dick she’d be my uncle

[exstatic]

If my aunt had a dick she’d be my uncle

No, she'd be your tranny aunt.

[spurspl]

I've yet to read a post of yours that makes any sense. If you're sitting here telling me that a team of Leonard, Green , Murray, White and Aldridge isn't Better than the current clippers team idk what to say.

who would play pf? leonard?
white sucks, murray is inconsistent, green and lma are old, no superstar, no young players, no assets to bring anyone who could help leonard.
Now he has great role players in their prime, another all star in PG etc

[exstatic]

The GOAT weighs in: MJ says load management is crap.

[Mugen]

:lol Fuck Cris Carter, that ringless POS.

His sister, his hype man...I wonder who's next from that trash inner circle of his tbh.

[NASpurs]

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:lol I haven't been keeping up with this thread so I don't know what's going on but finding out that Carter got the boot is great.

[Collins21]

who would play pf? leonard?
white sucks, murray is inconsistent, green and lma are old, no superstar, no young players, no assets to bring anyone who could help leonard.
Now he has great role players in their prime, another all star in PG etc

Bullshit that Clippers team would be a lottery team without Leonard>

[exstatic]

:lol Fuck Cris Carter, that ringless POS.

His sister, his hype man...I wonder who's next from that trash inner circle of his tbh.

Uncle D, with some kind of shady financial shit related to Impact, would be my guess.

[Mugen]

Uncle D, with some kind of shady financial shit related to Impact, would be my guess.

I'm going with that Jeremy POS that has no business being on a YMCA court let alone sitting behind an NBA bench.

[gospursgojas]

Nephew strikes again. Dragging another coach and team thru mud and costing them money. He already stole 21 mil from spurs.


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[K...]

lmao it's been clear for ahwile that notwithstanding 2015 pop is way way smarter than rivers

[apalisoc_9]

Spurs were right all along.

Kawhi can play through back to backs..if the spurs doctors are to be followed and the 7 other doctors..

But Leonard diagnons with his NYC doctor is that he can be treated...Its been two years now.

He has to realize his NYC doctor was wrong and The spurs and the 7 other doctors were right

[gospursgojas]

Lol didn’t even have surgery. He’s playing all these franchises by, ironically, not literally playing.

[apalisoc_9]

Also its been obvious Rivers was lying to protect Kawhi..

Doc is basically a semen shielding coach now :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Kawhi has a tight grip on dem clippers.

Can you imagine pop agreeing to be a semen shiled like what doc is doing now ? :lol..never

[Genovaswitness]

Kawhi has a tight grip on dem clippers.

Can you imagine pop agreeing to be a semen shiled like what doc is doing now ? :lol..never

In the end clippers are winning the ship and spurs are projected to win 32 games..would rather have kawhi and what LOB mentality the team had..

[UZER]

So Doc admitted they tampered, and admitted Kawhi is not hurt.

I expect Silver will take draft picks away from the Pacers to show he’s still boss.

[coachmac87]

Spurs were right all along.

Kawhi can play through back to backs..if the spurs doctors are to be followed and the 7 other doctors..

But Leonard diagnons with his NYC doctor is that he can be treated...Its been two years now.

He has to realize his NYC doctor was wrong and The spurs and the 7 other doctors were right


It’s fucked yo tbh. Not only did he not trust the organization the made him...he used it to sabotage them. It’s good to see some talking heads are kinda getting the picture but hoping someone calls him to the extent he deserves

[Yogatti]

Spurs were right all along.

Kawhi can play through back to backs..if the spurs doctors are to be followed and the 7 other doctors..

But Leonard diagnons with his NYC doctor is that he can be treated...Its been two years now.

He has to realize his NYC doctor was wrong and The spurs and the 7 other doctors were right

And how do you know that? Are you a doctor? Did you evaluate his injury and determined that he's able to play back 2 backs?

and LOL @ trusting the Spurs doctors. Their best interest is the Spurs organization not Kawhi Leonard. The Spurs organization want Kawhi to play every game.

Warriors medical staff told Kevin Durant he was fine to play game 5 against the Raptors in the finals and look what happened

[John B]

Kawhi is a real scum. Instead of a likely win last night against the Bucks, Kawhi took the night off and Harrell & Lou Williams each played 40 minutes. And now they play again tonight. I would be frustrated if I were Kawhi's teammates.
Uncle Dennis is flexing his influence, his way or the highway. If Clippers start losing, it would be the end of this drama.

[DAF86]

And how do you know that? Are you a doctor? Did you evaluate his injury and determined that he's able to play back 2 backs?

and LOL @ trusting the Spurs doctors. Their best interest is the Spurs organization not Kawhi Leonard. The Spurs organization want Kawhi to play every game.

Warriors medical staff told Kevin Durant he was fine to play game 5 against the Raptors in the finals and look what happened

Dude, what are you arguing here? Spurs' original diagnosis of a degenerative, lingering condition has been pretty much confirmed by everyone at this point. :lol

[Yogatti]

Dude, what are you arguing here? Spurs' original diagnosis of a degenerative, lingering condition has been pretty much confirmed by everyone at this point. :lol

Okay he has a degenerative lingering condition which is why Kawhi can't play back to backs. Apple_Bottom_FAG is saying Kawhi can because Apple_Bottom_FAG thinks he's some kind of a doctor now

[UZER]

I still think PATFO played a part in creating an environment that didn’t help to keep him here. With that said...

The Spurs would’ve load managed Kawhi like no other team. They just wanted him to come and play like he kept saying he would. He just kept teasing so the called his bluff.

[ndbutch]

So Doc admitted they tampered, and admitted Kawhi is not hurt.

I expect Silver will take draft picks away from the Pacers to show he’s still boss.

If David Stern was still around it would never have gotten to this point. Chris Broussard was right for once (not to worry. It was only once). Silver is a players Commissioner and the players are running amok. I knew the whole load management angle would get a lot more scrutiny whichever LA team he chose. He delivers the Clippers a title and its all good. Kawhi already had the media acting as though a player entering his prime sitting out games when healthy was the new NBA trend. It's not. Not 8 games into the season. But kudos to Kawhi for even breathing life into that idiocy. Watching Popovich sit a healthy Duncan, Parker and Ginobili why would he believe that it's wrong now?

TNT and ESPN are going to have their say next TV talks. This on top of the China controversy.

[John B]

I still think PATFO played a part in creating an environment that didn’t help to keep him here. With that said...

The Spurs would’ve load managed Kawhi like no other team. They just wanted him to come and play like he kept saying he would. He just kept teasing so the called his bluff.
He was gone. Kawhi would not last with his lingering knee injury. His uncle is trying to squeeze as much from him from shoe sales, etc. San Antonio was not the place.

[Frenchfred]

In the end clippers are winning the ship and spurs are projected to win 32 games..would rather have kawhi and what LOB mentality the team had..

but he didn’t want to stay in SA. He prefers Southern California. I can’t blame him for that. SoCal is way better than SA

[Genovaswitness]

but he didn’t want to stay in SA. He prefers Southern California. I can’t blame him for that. SoCal is way better than SA

SA is better than whatever euro shithole you’re posting from

[apalisoc_9]

And how do you know that? Are you a doctor? Did you evaluate his injury and determined that he's able to play back 2 backs?

and LOL @ trusting the Spurs doctors. Their best interest is the Spurs organization not Kawhi Leonard. The Spurs organization want Kawhi to play every game.

Warriors medical staff told Kevin Durant he was fine to play game 5 against the Raptors in the finals and look what happened

it wasnt just the spurs doctors scrah. It was multiple other doctors. Spurs basically said..Kawhi should play with the pain to develop a level of pain tolerance. Kawhi is scared whenever he senses pain.

I actually think NYC, Dennis and Kawhi are all doing a huge disservice to their own brand. Kawhi could have easily strongly competed for MVP last year and this year, and if the spurs doctors are to be followed and the multiple other doctors he can.

The big difference in diagnosis is the opinion of treatment.

Spurs believe the pain will always be there. Learn to tolerate and increase your pain treshold.

NYC doctors believe it can be cured with rest.


but guess what..its two years now and he is still feeling pain.

in other words, the spurs are right.

Kawhi has a mental block..a fear..that will limit his legacy.

It doesnt matter if he wins three straight with the clippers. That lack of MVP means he will never be in the 5-15 range even if he wins so many rings

[EasyMoney]

Don't know what the argument here is. Pop rested Kawhi every other game when he came back in december, so they had no intentions of "forcing" one to play, and wanted him to sit out the season but kawhi and his group didn't want him to.

[Yogatti]

it wasnt just the spurs doctors scrah. It was multiple other doctors. Spurs basically said..Kawhi should play with the pain to develop a level of pain tolerance. Kawhi is scared whenever he senses pain.

I actually think NYC, Dennis and Kawhi are all doing a huge disservice to their own brand. Kawhi could have easily strongly competed for MVP last year and this year, and if the spurs doctors are to be followed and the multiple other doctors he can.

The big difference in diagnosis is the opinion of treatment.

Spurs believe the pain will always be there. Learn to tolerate and increase your pain treshold.

NYC doctors believe it can be cured with rest.


but guess what..its two years now and he is still feeling pain.

in other words, the spurs are right.

Kawhi has a mental block..a fear..that will limit his legacy.

It doesnt matter if he wins three straight with the clippers. That lack of MVP means he will never be in the 5-15 range even if he wins so many rings

Right, let’s tell Kawhi to play back to back even if he’s still feeling pain 2 years after the diagnosis

[apalisoc_9]

its all mental with kawhi. He think playing a set amount will lead to injury.

He doesnt realize all players feel pain one way or the other. But if they CAN play they will play..With the exception of last two weeks of the season.

A guy who is "injured" and plays the next day and looks like the best player in the world the day after...Is not "injured"

He might feel pain but its no more or less than the pain other players play through.


This Load managment should be called kawhi mental managment.

Durant KD Geroge Jordan etc they either wait to be fully healed and resume normal play and minutes.

Geroge was playing with pain last year..in back to back games.

[exstatic]

Right, let’s tell Kawhi to play back to back even if he’s still feeling pain 2 years after the diagnosis

No one was "telling him to play back to backs". What SA did was to inform him that the condition was chronic, and it was a matter of pain tolerance. His quad isn't going to explode if he plays back to backs, much as some here might like it to. It will, however, cause him pain and discomfort. If he can't handle it, he'll be limited to about 60 games, and will never put up the numbers to be considered a top 10 or 15 player. He's 28 now, and has scored less than 8500 points.

[TD 21]

it wasnt just the spurs doctors scrah. It was multiple other doctors. Spurs basically said..Kawhi should play with the pain to develop a level of pain tolerance. Kawhi is scared whenever he senses pain.

I actually think NYC, Dennis and Kawhi are all doing a huge disservice to their own brand. Kawhi could have easily strongly competed for MVP last year and this year, and if the spurs doctors are to be followed and the multiple other doctors he can.

The big difference in diagnosis is the opinion of treatment.

Spurs believe the pain will always be there. Learn to tolerate and increase your pain treshold.

NYC doctors believe it can be cured with rest.


but guess what..its two years now and he is still feeling pain.

in other words, the spurs are right.

Kawhi has a mental block..a fear..that will limit his legacy.

It doesnt matter if he wins three straight with the clippers. That lack of MVP means he will never be in the 5-15 range even if he wins so many rings



its all mental with kawhi. He think playing a set amount will lead to injury.

He doesnt realize all players feel pain one way or the other. But if they CAN play they will play..With the exception of last two weeks of the season.

A guy who is "injured" and plays the next day and looks like the best player in the world the day after...Is not "injured"

He might feel pain but its no more or less than the pain other players play through.


This Load managment should be called kawhi mental managment.

Durant KD Geroge Jordan etc they either wait to be fully healed and resume normal play and minutes.

Geroge was playing with pain last year..in back to back games.

:tu

[Yogatti]

No one was "telling him to play back to backs". What SA did was to inform him that the condition was chronic, and it was a matter of pain tolerance. His quad isn't going to explode if he plays back to backs, much as some here might like it to. It will, however, cause him pain and discomfort. If he can't handle it, he'll be limited to about 60 games, and will never put up the numbers to be considered a top 10 or 15 player. He's 28 now, and has scored less than 8500 points.

Kawhi doesn’t care about that. The goal for him is to win championships

[TDomination]

Every star player should be given the opportunity to prevent injury by only playing 60 games so that they can be better healthy and give their team a better chance to win a championship.

[exstatic]

Kawhi doesn’t care about that. The goal for him is to win championships

You're 15 different kinds of fool. EVERY player cares about their legacy, their historic imprint on the game. Even Robert Horry said he would have traded some of his 7 rings to have a bigger role on his teams, score more, rebound more, etc.

[Yogatti]

You're 15 different kinds of fool. EVERY player cares about their legacy, their historic imprint on the game. Even Robert Horry said he would have traded some of his 7 rings to have a bigger role on his teams, score more, rebound more, etc.

Kawhi said regular season is just practice, playoffs is where you start playing real games

[Genovaswitness]

You're 15 different kinds of fool. EVERY player cares about their legacy, their historic imprint on the game. Even Robert Horry said he would have traded some of his 7 rings to have a bigger role on his teams, score more, rebound more, etc.

kawhi has 3 finals trips, 2 finals MVPs, 2x DPOY and is a lock for all star every year now. he'll have his third finals MVP shortly. he'll be just fine :lmao

[SpurPadre]

I keep reading all this stuff about how there's pretty much nothing anybody can do to stop players from using the "Load Management" card at will. However, there are quite a few options the league can choose, especially if they treat it like a regular job. For instance, many of us get paid sick leave and/or family sick leave that is accumulated every pay check and obviously, deducted once it's used. That means, in that case, it is limited. Sure, if a player is actually sick to the point they can't get out of bed and/or has an illness that is contagious and debilitating, they don't play and that's fine. Health first. They don't even have to set a limit when players get sick like that, especially since these players are so well-conditioned and have so many resources at their disposal that they can get back to 100% quicker than most non-professional athletes or non-celebrities. However, right now, the league hasn't imposed a set limit on using load management, which isn't the same thing as an ongoing sickness or debilitating injury and it's something which Kawhi is abusing as if it were the most glorified sick leave in all of employment. And that's a problem. Why not set a hard limit on how many load management games a player can use? They can even set a soft limit on load management and when one uses that limit and wants to go for more, they have to get a doctor's note that specifies that player x cannot reasonably physically play that certain game. This is DO-ABLE and equitable for the player (and, in turn, their union), the team, the league, and the fans. If Larry Bird can get Bird Rights named after him, they should call this the Leonard Rule.

[rasuo214]

I don't know why Spurs fans would be upset when Pop was load managing before Kawhi made it into a thing.

[dbreiden83080]

Kawhi said regular season is just practice, playoffs is where you start playing real games

Ticket Holders and sponsors will be thrilled to hear that..

[ZeusWillJudge]

Every day I see this thread bumped to the top.

Every day I look in, hoping to see a bunch of people saying, "He tore his ACL!"

And every day you pull the rug out from under me.

You guys keep posting the same old things. Post something new like, "He tore his ACL!" You don't sacrifice goats anymore - it's the least you could do.

[apalisoc_9]

I don't know why Spurs fans would be upset when Pop was load managing before Kawhi made it into a thing.

pop didnt make b2b a strict no no for his players. Timmy was playing back to backs at age 33.

Kawhi has a mental problem.

I dont even think the medical stuff in Toronto believed he was injured as evidence with Nurse statements.

The medical stuff job with kawhi as a superstart is provide kawhi with the confirmation bias he looks for. He is one of those players who dont believe in the science of medice but rather..if i feel pain..I feel pain.

Which goes back to my point.


Everyone plays even when they are slighlty banged up. Kawhi doesnt want to play because he think in his mind and in his own pain treshold that it will lead to injury.

This is on kawhi and maybe Dennis

[exstatic]

Ticket Holders and sponsors will be thrilled to hear that..

Not to mention TNT ESPN. Maybe they’ll decide to load manage the next TV contract, and only pay 75% of this one.

[DMC]

Kawhi isn't load managing shit. That's up to his employer. The Spurs said no. He left. Toronto allowed it and they lucked out by being in the right spot when the Warriors imploded, after James left the East.

Other teams should be concerned that they are facing a player who A) isn't injured but more rested than he should be and B) picks and chooses which games he feels like playing (or the team does). Meanwhile they play their stars night in and night out, and they roll the injury dice much more often, and their stars are more worn down later in the season.

People can point to Pop all they want and place blame, but Kawhi left the Spurs because he freaked the fuck out over an injury an got basically Asperger's level paranoid about it. Now other teams are allowing him to do what ever please his autism. The guy in Houston who wouldn't fly because of an irrational fear that overwhelmed him, that guy lost his job I think.

Either everyone abides by the rules or no one does. I say other teams should sit their stars during televised games to force the NBA's hand. I also think Kawhi will leave the league with a poor reputation and a lopsided rep/award showing.

[XDT76]

I keep reading all this stuff about how there's pretty much nothing anybody can do to stop players from using the "Load Management" card at will. However, there are quite a few options the league can choose, especially if they treat it like a regular job. For instance, many of us get paid sick leave and/or family sick leave that is accumulated every pay check and obviously, deducted once it's used. That means, in that case, it is limited. Sure, if a player is actually sick to the point they can't get out of bed and/or has an illness that is contagious and debilitating, they don't play and that's fine. Health first. They don't even have to set a limit when players get sick like that, especially since these players are so well-conditioned and have so many resources at their disposal that they can get back to 100% quicker than most non-professional athletes or non-celebrities. However, right now, the league hasn't imposed a set limit on using load management, which isn't the same thing as an ongoing sickness or debilitating injury and it's something which Kawhi is abusing as if it were the most glorified sick leave in all of employment. And that's a problem. Why not set a hard limit on how many load management games a player can use? They can even set a soft limit on load management and when one uses that limit and wants to go for more, they have to get a doctor's note that specifies that player x cannot reasonably physically play that certain game. This is DO-ABLE and equitable for the player (and, in turn, their union), the team, the league, and the fans. If Larry Bird can get Bird Rights named after him, they should call this the Leonard Rule.

Bcos the player can dress and just sit on the bench. Just like Walker and Carroll in some of Spurs game and nothing the league can do about it. Unless the league wanna impose minimum minutes on players with certain contracts but likely will be met with resistances from team owners and players association.

[rasuo214]

pop didnt make b2b a strict no no for his players. Timmy was playing back to backs at age 33.

Kawhi has a mental problem.

I dont even think the medical stuff in Toronto believed he was injured as evidence with Nurse statements.

The medical stuff job with kawhi as a superstart is provide kawhi with the confirmation bias he looks for. He is one of those players who dont believe in the science of medice but rather..if i feel pain..I feel pain.

Which goes back to my point.


Everyone plays even when they are slighlty banged up. Kawhi doesnt want to play because he think in his mind and in his own pain treshold that it will lead to injury.

This is on kawhi and maybe Dennis

The only reason the media even cares is because it was a national game/prime matchup. Same when Pop sat all those guys against Miami.

The NBA shouldn't dictate when or if teams sit guys out, Pop and the Spurs did a great job prolonging TD/Manu by sitting them out and I would have hated if the NBA prevented the team from doing so. Also Pop is using the same precaution (not playing b2b) with Murray for at least part of the season.

Either way Kawhi is the Clipper's problem, if he wins them a championship no one is going to give a fuck that he sat out b2bs.

[DMC]

What's the odds KL sits out against Houston and plays against the Pelicans? :lol

[james evans]

If I’m working for someone that lets me take a day off each week, I would abuse that system.

[MultiTroll]

If your employee who takes 25% of the time off also boosts your companies profits by 60% then hell yes, take the time off.

SpursTalk Medical Team still presenting so much proof.

[r0drig0lac]

What's the odds KL sits out against Houston and plays against the Pelicans? :lol

0% (how it should be tbh), honestly this is a Clippers problem and only your fans should be concerned, I would love for the opposing stars to rest in all games against SA.

[Genovaswitness]

If your employee who takes 25% of the time off also boosts your companies profits by 60% then hell yes, take the time off.

SpursTalk Medical Team still presenting so much proof.

b-but he sits shit ass irrelevant regular season games :cry

Muh hardworking average joe buying tickets to the game :cry

Kawhi is about that LOB. Period.

[Harry Callahan]

The only reason the media even cares is because it was a national game/prime matchup. Same when Pop sat all those guys against Miami.

The NBA shouldn't dictate when or if teams sit guys out, Pop and the Spurs did a great job prolonging TD/Manu by sitting them out and I would have hated if the NBA prevented the team from doing so. Also Pop is using the same precaution (not playing b2b) with Murray for at least part of the season.

Either way Kawhi is the Clipper's problem, if he wins them a championship no one is going to give a fuck that he sat out b2bs.

Murray tore his ACL - legitimate caution. #2 tore nothing - illegitimate.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Murray tore his ACL - legitimate caution. #2 tore nothing - illegitimate.


Dammit. Another day passes with this thread at the top, and STILL no one saying that Autist tore his ACL. I'm starting to lose faith in the basketball gods.