***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[Budkin]

Wow Verde

[DAF86]

If Kawhi chokes this shit vs a 30% GS Warriors. :lmao

[gilmor2002]

Man, I hate Demar Cousins.. what a fucking bitch

[SpurPadre]

If they lost Klay and Looney, it’s still a big blow to them.

Both were injured during the game?

[Gibbz]

It's Boogie's world--everyone else is just living in it.

[SpurPadre]

Man, I hate Demar Cousins.. what a fucking bitch

Load Management is a bigger bitch, tbh.

[hater]

:lmao Mute Cancer :lol

[tbdog]

Nick Nurse getting outcoached. Cousins just coming back. Durant out. Klay hobbled. Iggy hobbled. Leonard best player on the planet. And they lose at home.

[Budkin]

I hate everyone on both these teams.

[benefactor]

asswiper2k5 gon cry in the car

[SpurPadre]

I hate everyone on both these teams.

THIS. The two most unlikeable teams to compete for any championship in any sport, tbh.

[Capt Bringdown]

Nick Nurse getting outcoached. Cousins just coming back. Durant out. Klay hobbled. Iggy hobbled. Leonard best player on the planet. And they lose at home.

The Box-in-1 was great adjustment that shut GS down.

The problem was on the offensive end. Toronto didn't seem to run any plays other than ISO and there was not enough ball movement/too much hesitation.

[Jonnyblue19]

Nick Nurse getting outcoached. Cousins just coming back. Durant out. Klay hobbled. Iggy hobbled. Leonard best player on the planet. And they lose at home.

Don't forget Looney also was hurt and didn't play the second half. The Raptors should have destroyed them considering Curry didn't look right either.

[Jonnyblue19]

The Box-in-1 was great adjustment that shut GS down.

The problem was on the offensive end. Toronto didn't seem to run any plays other than ISO and there was not enough ball movement/too much hesitation.

Box-in-1 looked great because everyone was hobbled or out on Golden State.

[BillMc]

I hate everyone on both these teams.

With the exception of Danny, I agree with you

[timvp]

Tbh, prime Nephew intercepts that pass and then dunks it on the other end to tie the game.

But, yeah, he still had a beastly game even though he's mostly strength instead of athleticism these days.

[testies]

danny green is costing them 4 turnovers per game, for someone who touches the ball 5 times a game that is attrocious

[SpurPadre]

With the exception of Danny, I agree with you

Danny has been talking shit about Pop lately, though so he should be on our shitlist, tbh.

[Gibbz]

Kawhi was dogshit on D tonight, and his offense was carried by flailing all over for foul calls. Dominant on the glass, I'll admit.

[FkLA]

fuck you Nephew

[BillMc]

Danny has been talking shit about Pop lately, though so he should be on our shitlist, tbh.

What has he been saying?

[Degoat]

Kawhi can’t even beat a team without KD or Klay :lmao

[Mugen]

:lol If the Raps don't win this series....KD is probably gonna come back around 70%, Klay is 50/50 to return at all, Looney out, Cousins playing again.....

:lmao East if they don't pull it out....

[SpurPadre]

If Klay is out next game along with KD, the nightmare scenario of that piece of shit ringing becomes a huge probability...

[SpurPadre]

What has he been saying?

Basically that Nurse is a better coach and gives them more freedom.

[Gibbz]

If Klay is out next game along with KD, the nightmare scenario of that piece of shit ringing becomes a huge probability...

KD will at least be back by Game 4. Toronto has no chance.

[SpurPadre]

KD will at least be back by Game 4. Toronto has no chance.

Hope you're right.

[gilmor2002]

Load Management is a bigger bitch, tbh.

Nah.. Demarcus is. Did you see the way he tried to abuse Duncan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVVaMEHmvAE

[Gibbz]

Gasol and Siakam are the guys who destroyed GS in Game 1 and Gasol has been inconsistent as hell this postseason. I expect a youngster like Siakam to be a ghost the rest of the series after Draymond clamped him so hard tonight. Golden State is just way better, even with injuries.

[Gibbz]

Boogie is awesome. Probably my favorite non-Spur.

[SpurPadre]

Nah.. Demarcus is. Did you see the way he tried to abuse Duncan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVVaMEHmvAE

Load Management abused a whole franchise and held them hostage with his faggotry.

[DPG21920]

Tbh, prime Nephew intercepts that pass and then dunks it on the other end to tie the game.

But, yeah, he still had a beastly game even though he's mostly strength instead of athleticism these days.

It’s insane how he’s just tossing dudes around. But losing Klay (no way he plays IMO) is a devastating blow. GS had no margin for error and losing Klay, even getting KD back, is a big blow.

[FkLA]

Nah.. Demarcus is. Did you see the way he tried to abuse Duncan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVVaMEHmvAE

Old shit. There's a quote out there of Boogie saying "damn, you're fucking good" to Duncan.

Nephew OTOH refused calls from our GOAT.

[Mugen]

It’s insane how he’s just tossing dudes around. But losing Klay (no way he plays IMO) is a devastating blow. GS had no margin for error and losing Klay, even getting KD back, is a big blow.

Klay got a high ankle sprain in last years finals and didn't miss a start tbh.

[DPG21920]

Klay got a high ankle sprain in last years finals and didn't miss a start tbh.

Hamstrings are a different beast

[Mugen]

Hamstrings are a different beast

High ankle sprain is usually a multi-week injury tbh. I'd be surprised if he missed more than 1 game.

[Mikeanaro]

Harden-level FT hunting and phantom calls.
I felt the same about that, got away with lot of shit and still (like Harden) failed to seal the deal.

[FkLA]

It’s insane how he’s just tossing dudes around. But losing Klay (no way he plays IMO) is a devastating blow. GS had no margin for error and losing Klay, even getting KD back, is a big blow.

Really? TOR (and the East in general) has gotten really overrated this year, imo. Even the Spurs, as flawed as they were, never looked outmatched by any of the Top 4 East teams during the season. I know it's not the playoffs but still.

Klay is an ironman and GS is dominant at home. No reason why it shouldn't be 3-1 coming back to TOR.

[DPG21920]

Really? TOR (and the East in general) has gotten really overrated this year, imo. Even the Spurs, as flawed as they were, never looked outmatched by any of the Top 4 East teams during the season. I know it's not the playoffs but still.

Klay is an ironman and GS is dominant at home. No reason why it shouldn't be 3-1 coming back to TOR.

Without KD, GS is a very limited offensive team. They can’t bend TOR half court defense too much consistently. TOR has no liabilities on either end: Lowry? Can shoot and play defense. Danny? Can shoot and play defense. Kawhi? MVP level. Siakam? Can play both ends and do many things. Gasol? Very good defender.

GS is starting 2-3 players that while maybe solid on defense have some huge offensive flaws.

If KD was playing things are way different, but Kawhi being able to rest on defense, sag and cut out passing lanes etc.. is a big advantage. If KD was playing, that would not happen (imagine subbing KD in for Looney).

[Mugen]

Without KD, GS is a very limited offensive team. They can’t bend TOR half court defense too much consistently. TOR has no liabilities on either end: Lowry? Can shoot and play defense. Danny? Can shoot and play defense. Kawhi? MVP level. Siakam? Can play both ends and do many things. Gasol? Very good defender.

GS is starting 2-3 players that while maybe solid on defense have some huge offensive flaws.

If KD was playing things are way different, but Kawhi being able to rest on defense, sag and cut out passing lanes etc.. is a big advantage. If KD was playing, that would not happen (imagine subbing KD in for Looney).

That shiny faced fuck is coming back in Game 3 tbh.

[FkLA]

Without KD, GS is a very limited offensive team. They can’t bend TOR half court defense too much consistently. TOR has no liabilities on either end: Lowry? Can shoot and play defense. Danny? Can shoot and play defense. Kawhi? MVP level. Siakam? Can play both ends and do many things. Gasol? Very good defender.

GS is starting 2-3 players that while maybe solid on defense have some huge offensive flaws.

If KD was playing things are way different, but Kawhi being able to rest on defense, sag and cut out passing lanes etc.. is a big advantage. If KD was playing, that would not happen (imagine subbing KD in for Looney).

If Klay does miss time and KD remains out that complicates things, obviously.

If just one of them returns though GS wraps it up fairly comfortably. If both return, they dominate the rest of the series. TOR is a solid team but they (and the rest of the East) were always a tier below GS and probably even HOU, imho.

[DPG21920]

If Klay does miss time and KD remains out that complicates things, obviously.

If just one of them returns though GS wraps it up fairly comfortably. If both return, they dominate the rest of the series. TOR is a solid team but they (and the rest of the East) were always a tier below GS and probably even HOU, imho.

I disagree big time man. TOR is well build; perfect for the modern nba. Yeah, their youth is overrated some and they are not 11 deep, but their top 7 can play both sides of the ball reasonably well.

We saw how tough these games were without KD (even with Klay playing well). Swapping Klay for KD does not net GS enough with regards to changing how TOR is defending them.

Having no KD, TOR showed outside of that 3rd quarter, that they can stifle GS offensively

[99 Problems]

The health of Klay is huge. Interesting couple of days coming up. Iggy and Cooke aren’t shooting you to any chip tbh....

[FkLA]

I disagree big time man. TOR is well build; perfect for the modern nba. Yeah, their youth is overrated some and they are not 11 deep, but their top 7 can play both sides of the ball reasonably well.

We saw how tough these games were without KD (even with Klay playing well). Swapping Klay for KD does not net GS enough with regards to changing how TOR is defending them.

Having no KD, TOR showed outside of that 3rd quarter, that they can stifle GS offensively

I think you are really overlooking the fact that these games were in Toronto. Things will come a little easier for GS in Oakland, imo.

I'm not trying to be a bitter hater either, TOR is solid they've just never been GS/HOU level solid. No shame in that.

[DPG21920]

I think you are really overlooking the fact that these games were in Toronto. Things will come a little easier for GS in Oakland, imo.

I'm not trying to be a bitter hater either, TOR is solid they've just never been GS/HOU level solid. No shame in that.

TOR is much better than HOU IMO. But everyone was saying TOR couldn’t do this to MIL on the road and they did just fine. I’m telling you, GS is still good as is, but it’s not a good match up for them. We shall see.

[hitmantb]

It is time to see if Kawhi's fate is as strong as Tim's.

As great as Tim was, I felt like fate was on his side in several occasions. Tim was injured and bailed out by Horry in 05, it is one thing for Horry to hit a clutch shot but he took over the quarter and OT in a pivotal game. Suns was screwed by referee and Horry in 07. And even in 03, one of the single greatest individual accomplishment, Nash/Fox's injury and Horry's rimmed out 3 were his lucky breaks. If you are not playing with a stacked roster like KD warriors or Shaq/Kobe Lakers, you need a little bit of luck to ring, even more so to ring multiple times.

No team in NBA history can beat a fully healthy 5 star warriors. 3 star makes it fair and Cousins playing like a 0.5 star gives the edge to warriors again. Klay's injury once again gives Raptors a chance. KD/Klay's health rest of this series, and their performance will be critical. It is time to see if Kawhi is destined to be a great one. He is IMO comparable to 2005 Duncan in his current state. Still superstar level, but lacks explosiveness to be a god like 03 Duncan or 18 LeBron. Will he get a lucky break here to be immortal in Toronto?

[SpurPadre]

It is time to see if Kawhi's fate is as strong as Tim's.

As great as Tim was, I felt like fate was on his side in several occasions. Tim was injured and bailed out by Horry in 05, it is one thing for Horry to hit a clutch shot but he took over the quarter and OT in a pivotal game. Suns was screwed by referee and Horry in 07. And even in 03, one of the single greatest individual accomplishment, Nash/Fox's injury and Horry's rimmed out 3 were his lucky breaks. If you are not playing with a stacked roster like KD warriors or Shaq/Kobe Lakers, you need a little bit of luck to ring, even more so to ring multiple times.

No team in NBA history can beat a fully healthy 5 star warriors. 3 star makes it fair and Cousins playing like a 0.5 star gives the edge to warriors again. Klay's injury once again gives Raptors a chance. KD/Klay's health rest of this series, and their performance will be critical. It is time to see if Kawhi is destined to be a great one. He is IMO comparable to 2005 Duncan in his current state. Still superstar level, but lacks explosiveness to be a god like 03 Duncan or 18 LeBron. Will he get a lucky break here to be immortal in Toronto?

Stopped reading after no team in NBA history...

MJ in '96 would butt fuck these Dubs, tbh.

[TD 21]

:lmao At Scumbag going full hero mode and costing his team. His decision making was as brutal as ever (was actually good in game 1).

Fortunately for him, the Warriors' near 5 year run of luck/attrition is finally catching up to them and in their current state, they face structural/talent issues that are not fixable. Sure, they hung on for dear life tonight, but it felt like one last gasp as opposed to something sustainable.

This is starting to look like the '14 Finals. Game 3 is massive for the Warriors. Find a way to get it and if Durant can come back for game 4 and look like a reasonable facsimile of himself, they've got a shot. If not, this thing is probably over in 5.

[tbdog]

They got three days off. Durant plays. No report on Klay yet.

[JeffDuncan]

Okay, so we have a Finals where all the star players are limping around on one leg. Who will win the Pegleg Championship?

[gilmor2002]

TOR is much better than HOU IMO. But everyone was saying TOR couldn’t do this to MIL on the road and they did just fine. I’m telling you, GS is still good as is, but it’s not a good match up for them. We shall see.

I am seeing warriors losing this in the absence of Klay and KD.

The offense in the last 10 mins is unwatchable..

[RC_Drunkford]

Sources told The Athletic’s Sam Amick and me that Leonard’s knee issue stems from overcompensating for his injured right quad suffered last season, that cost him all but nine games and basically paved the way for his exit out of San Antonio to the Raptors. (https://theathletic.com/1007142/2019/06/02/nobody-feels-bad-for-the-warriors-who-even-series-but-must-now-worry-about-thompson-first-thoughts-from-game-2/) His right quad, actually, is fine, and the left knee is the reason you’ve seen him laboring at times.


Golden State Warriors All-Star Klay Thompson, who suffered a left hamstring injury in the fourth quarter of the Warriors’ NBA Finals Game 2 victory Sunday night, told Yahoo Sports that he doesn’t expect to miss any time. “No, I don’t see myself missing Game 3,” Thompson told Yahoo Sports (https://sports.yahoo.com/klay-thompson-no-i-dont-see-myself-missing-game-3-031925378.html). Thompson led the Warriors with 25 points and carried them in the first half as they evened the NBA Finals against the Toronto Raptors with a 109-104 victory. “I’ll be fine,” Thompson told Yahoo Sports. “That was a good win for us tonight.”

[RD2191]

Raps are going to get blown the fuck out in Oakland tbh

[ZeusWillJudge]

fuck you Nephew


:lol That's what I'm talking about.

[Keepin' it real]

Boring ass finals tbh

[duncan2k5]

So which is it kawhi? Last week your uncle said the spurs didn’t believe you were actually injured and that’s why you wanted out. Now, you were unhappy with the system and this “box” you were put in. In the words of duncan2k5, “ you’re moving goal posts.”

Did u actually watch the entire interview? My guess is no... He wasn't throwing shade at anyone... He was trying to explain the game is more fun to him as a star as opposed to just being a role player since he was able to experience both

[duncan2k5]

What about Tim Duncan you POS? Arguably the best player on the team that got you your only ring.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHd0rx2KMn8

I commented on this... The title of that video was misleading... That's just the LA media at work again... Watch the full interview... They asked him why doesn't he celebrate like the other stars... And his reply was that the media exaggerates how much the other stars celebrate... That he watches stars make big buckets all the time and done celebrate... So he used those three as examples of stars that ppl consider demonstrative, but in actuality doesn't celebrate for every basket like the media portrays... U are getting mad at a title of a video of something he never said

[duncan2k5]

Yep. And one of the people he draws from is Shaq? Shaq? WTF does he possibly draw from Shaq, except the desire to get paid for commercials?

He never said that... The LA media is fooling u guys... Actually watch the full interview to see what he said... LA media keep trying to give Kobe credit for something

[duncan2k5]

KL was recently quoted as saying something along the lines that during his time in SA he felt "boxed in" which leads me to think he wasn't happy with the Spurs' team first style of play..he's more kobe than TD...it doesn't help he has someone like Dennis chirping in his ear...it also didn't help that LMA was unhappy and wanted out and once Pop came out saying they would tweak things here and there to get LMA more shots...well I think that did it for KL...as timvp stated...this was years in the making...the blame goes both ways...its never only one side that carries the blame...I don't know how much Pop involved/consulted with KL regarding the team like he would with Tim/Manu/Tony...if he didn't then that's where he really messed up...otoh KL messed up by not speaking up and letting his group do the talking...the Spurs never wanted to lose KL and hindsight is 20/20...they never intended to trade him...the plan was always to reconcile and make him front and center of the team...by that point however it was already to late...they had to trade him and they got what they could

He never said this... He was alluding to his first year when he was only a defensive player... He said after that year he started to have fun because he was able to showcase more... He never said anything bad about San Antonio... Actually watch the whole interview... It's right there on YouTube! Don't watch the misleading snippets that ppl post to push their agenda

[KobesAchilles]

Kawhi is an interesting case. Would he really sign a short-term deal? It doesn’t make sense considering he himself isn’t over his injury. He apparently has hurt his other leg bc he is compensating too much for his right knee. I feel like that’s how a person gets seriously injured. Easier said than done, but he needs to just play normal otherwise he could fuck up his career. 5 years/190 million is a lot of money, just take it and run lol.

[HarlemHeat37]

He's really dragging himself to the finish line now, that knee is done, pretty impressive that he can still play well on offense..his defense is non-existent right now, though, and they won't win without it..

[DPG21920]

He's really dragging himself to the finish line now, that knee is done, pretty impressive that he can still play well on offense..his defense is non-existent right now, though, and they won't win without it..

If Klay and KD are out now, it’s still night night for GS

[HarlemHeat37]

If Klay and KD are out now, it’s still night night for GS

Sure, but Klay's injury didn't look too bad IMO..

[DPG21920]

Sure, but Klay's injury didn't look too bad IMO..

Bruh! He literally couldn’t walk after the game :lol. I think it’s bad and the fact we have not heard anything about the MRI yet should be concerning.

[TD 21]

Outside of his continuing to be rewarded free throws for extending his arm to push off and lowering his shoulder to power through, Scumbag's offensive efficiently has quietly been regressing to the mean for a while . . .

First 9 games of playoffs: 62.4 2pt%, 50 3pt%, 66.2 efg%
Last 11 games of playoffs: 48.2 2pt% 28.1 3pt%, 46.6 efg%

Spare me the "he's injured" excuse because if, as has been speculated, it's degenerative (funny how Duncan was never afforded the same courtesy his last 7 seasons), then this is how he'll be going forward the rare times he's willing to physically push himself.


Bruh! He literally couldn’t walk after the game :lol. I think it’s bad and the fact we have not heard anything about the MRI yet should be concerning.

Yeah, especially for a player who, at least without Durant, often needs to be in perpetual motion to create the requisite split second of daylight to generate open looks. They can't afford for him to be incapable of doing so or lacking elevation.

He also can't hide defensively because they need to prioritize Curry doing so on Green.

[Realdeal1]

Kawhi suing Nike for his klaw logo lol

[cd98]

Kawhi is an interesting case. Would he really sign a short-term deal? It doesn’t make sense considering he himself isn’t over his injury. He apparently has hurt his other leg bc he is compensating too much for his right knee. I feel like that’s how a person gets seriously injured. Easier said than done, but he needs to just play normal otherwise he could fuck up his career. 5 years/190 million is a lot of money, just take it and run lol.

Toronto needs to plan on Kawhi not playing the second to last year of any deal.

[GusT15]

Kawhi suing Nike for his klaw logo lol

Yep

https://twitter.com/matthewkish/status/1135661063725182977

[exstatic]

Kawhi suing Nike for his klaw logo lol

And The Group makes another terrible decision.

[exstatic]

Toronto needs to plan on Kawhi not playing the second to last year of any deal.

ISWYDT

[Mikeanaro]

Yep

https://twitter.com/matthewkish/status/1135661063725182977
Well, I find very difficult to believe he in person designed that logo, also if he is so smart how the hell missed that one when the contract was made?
Neph is scaring brands, uncle Dennis is pushing too hard.

[BackHome]

They need money cause his career going to be cut short from chronic injuries.

[BatManu20]

Uncle Dennis the menace suing Nike*

[Mugen]

This dummy traced his hand and called it a logo.

[RC_Drunkford]

so does duncan2k5 still wear Nike?

[GusT15]

This dummy traced his hand and called it a logo.

That's gonna be the basis of their legal argument tbh

Nephew tracing his hand in court and then waving the paper as proof is going to win them the case

:lmao

[JeffDuncan]

Hm. Here's a story from 2014 that says he created the rough design, and Nike refined it.

https://www.nicekicks.com/kawhi-leonard-says-claw-logo-idea/

The plot thickens.

[GusT15]

Hm. Here's a story from 2014 that says he created the rough design, and Nike refined it.

https://www.nicekicks.com/kawhi-leonard-says-claw-logo-idea/

The plot thickens.


“I give the Jordan Brand team all the credit because I’m no artist at all,” Leonard. “They refined it and made it look better than I thought it would ever be, and I’m extremely happy with the final version.”

[Dejounte]

Lmao cant this be used in court?

[RC_Drunkford]

Didn't want to start another thread, but Ric Bucher just said the Spurs wanted Kawhi to take a discount. Skip confirmed it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVoYzhODTD0

[Leetonidas]

Didn't want to start another thread, but Ric Bucher just said the Spurs wanted Kawhi to take a discount. Skip confirmed it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVoYzhODTD0

Yeah I don't buy that. If that were true you know cris Carter and Shannon sharpe etc would have been raving about Pop being a plantation owner or something ridiculous

[RC_Drunkford]

Yeah I don't buy that. If that were true you know cris Carter and Shannon sharpe etc would have been raving about Pop being a plantation owner or something ridiculous

yeah I don't know how legit this is or if this was before him sitting out a whole season

[RD2191]

Why does Nike even want the logo?

[Trainwreck2100]

Why does Nike even want the logo?

cause why would they help a competitor sell shoes?

[RD2191]

cause why would they help a competitor sell shoes?

Can they still sell Kawhi brand shoes though?

[RD2191]

*Nike

[DPG21920]

Kawhi wouldn’t take a discount from SA but will play for another team for less than the Supermax.

[Trainwreck2100]

Can they still sell Kawhi brand shoes though?

no but why give him the logo and let him use it to help sell more of his brand? Not to mention it sets a horrible precedent for them if they just give away their IP

[JeffDuncan]

Why does Nike even want the logo?

Nike wants it for the obvious reason, it's worth money.

Also, if Nike owns it they can prevent New Balance from using it, which gives Nike an advantage against a competitor. Part of big business is the ability to step on your competitors and keep them down.

Leonard's complaint demands a jury trial, btw. The jurisdiction is southern Cali.

[Philthemage]

Not sure if posted already, but looks like Kawhi just purchased a house in Toronto.

https://www.narcity.com/sports/ca/on/toronto/kawhi-leonard-buys-house-in-toronto-according-to-new-reports

[Reck]

Does Kawhi have a leg to stand on here? Did he even patent the logo as his own?

Otherwise it would be a free for all.

[FkLA]

His old logo seriously has a chance to be the most iconic logo since the jumpman logo. Especially if he ends up in LA. It's that awesome, imo. I can see why he wants it back. Hopefully Nike wins though. Fuck that faggot.

[JeffDuncan]

Here's the lawsuit filing on scribd.

https://www.scribd.com/document/412305173/Kawhi-Leonard-lawsuit-against-Nike-over-logo-use

[JeffDuncan]

Does Kawhi have a leg to stand on here? Did he even patent the logo as his own?

Otherwise it would be a free for all.

I believe that under U.S. law now, an author of a writing or artwork gains legal protection for whatever he creates just by creating it. He doesn't have to file anything at the time.

So Kawhi will have to convince a jury that he created at least the basic concept of the design himself. He'll be a black guy who made good, in a popular sport, talking to a jury of people in his old home area, saying that a big bad company stole his work. Nike will be the rich white oppressors from far away, who use sweatshop labor in foreign countries. Nike should maybe think about trying to settle.

[FkLA]

Didn't want to start another thread, but Ric Bucher just said the Spurs wanted Kawhi to take a discount. Skip confirmed it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVoYzhODTD0

Unless there was a strong feeling that Neph just wanted to get his supermax, then eventually bolt anyways PATFO fucked up. He already wasn't getting the superstar treatment from the team that other stars got around the league (I'm fine with that) and was getting lowballed by Jordan brand--no need for the team to also pile on with insulting offers.

My guess is the relationship played a big role in it though. If the relationship was strong and Nephew truly seemed committed to retiring a Spur but at the same time made it known he wanted the supermax, the Spurs would've obliged, imo.

[hombre]

Incredibly dumb move on top of incredibly bad timing.

[Wu36]

I believe that under U.S. law now, an author of a writing or artwork gains legal protection for whatever he creates just by creating it. He doesn't have to file anything at the time.
But don’t they have to wait 35 years? That what’s been going on with the Friday the 13th franchise. And Stephen King recently reclaiming movie rights to his early books.

[RD2191]

no but why give him the logo and let him use it to help sell more of his brand? Not to mention it sets a horrible precedent for them if they just give away their IP


Nike wants it for the obvious reason, it's worth money.

Also, if Nike owns it they can prevent New Balance from using it, which gives Nike an advantage against a competitor. Part of big business is the ability to step on your competitors and keep them down.

Leonard's complaint demands a jury trial, btw. The jurisdiction is southern Cali.

:tu

[hombre]

Does Kawhi have a leg to stand on here?

It seems he has only one leg left to stand on.

[RD2191]

Does Kawhi have a leg to stand on here? Did he even patent the logo as his own?

Otherwise it would be a free for all.

It was his idea though? Nike just refined it? Tough call tbh

[FkLA]

It seems he has only one leg left to stand on.

:lol

[loveforthegame]

What’s he gain by filing if he doesn’t have a leg to stand on?

[Wu36]

There’s a reason Walmart and many others are making fake Yeti coolers. Yeti fucked up like Kawhi.

[RD2191]

Why doesn't Kawhi just make a similar logo? Tbh

[SpurPadre]

From an unassuming, humble superstar who drove the same old car to a money-hungry, injury-faking drama queen faggot who killed a franchise and wants to play in LA. smh...

[Wu36]

https://www.autonews.com/blogs/jeep-scores-legal-spat-mahindra-roxor-rolls-detroit he won’t win before he retires more than likely. It’s headache stuff.

[RD2191]

From an unassuming, humble superstar who drove the same old car to a money-hungry, injury-faking drama queen faggot who killed a franchise and wants to play in LA. smh...

I'm not surprised about LA tbh. He's a Cali kid through and through. The rest is probably his bitch ass uncle tbh

[JeffDuncan]

Why doesn't Kawhi just make a similar logo? Tbh

Nike has copyrighted the logo. Leonard can't use a logo like that unless he overturns Nike's copyright.

Part of the Leonard complaint is the allegation that Nike defrauded the U.S. copyright office by getting the copyright, by claiming they were the author of the logo. The lawsuit says Nike never informed Leonard that they were applying for the copyright, or that they obtained it.

[Wu36]

There’s a reason Nike did this. Like when Indian went and patented things Harley Davidson designed and forgot to file.

[exstatic]

Nike has copyrighted the logo. Leonard can't use a logo like that unless he overturns Nike's copyright.

Part of the Leonard complaint is the allegation that Nike defrauded the U.S. copyright office by getting the copyright, by claiming they were the author of the logo. The lawsuit says Nike never informed Leonard that they were applying for the copyright, or that they obtained it.

That would be what happens when you have amateur representation.

[RD2191]

Nike has copyrighted the logo. Leonard can't use a logo like that unless he overturns Nike's copyright.

Part of the Leonard complaint is the allegation that Nike defrauded the U.S. copyright office by getting the copyright, by claiming they were the author of the logo. The lawsuit says Nike never informed Leonard that they were applying for the copyright, or that they obtained it.

So who has the case here? Tbh

[exstatic]

So who has the case here? Tbh

Possession is 9/10ths of the law, and Nike owns the trademark.

[K...]

So who has the case here? Tbh

I don't know, but the case will likely settle for $$$$ and we won't ever know. If it goes to trial it's because uncle is crazy

[K...]

Possession is 9/10ths of the law, and Nike owns the trademark.

Not in contract law......it's more like who wrote the contract is 9/10ths of the law, which is still ESPN most likely

[RC_Drunkford]

well if Uncle Dennis wants to build a management agency for NBA players he should be that smart to copyright any logo that his players have before a company they got a deal with does it. Apparently Uncle Dennis ain't that smart. Once that logo got printed on a shirt he should've copywritten it then and there

[exstatic]

Not in contract law......it's more like who wrote the contract is 9/10ths of the law, which is still ESPN most likely

lolwut? How did ESPN get involved in a trademark dispute between load management and Nike.

[SpurPadre]

I'm not surprised about LA tbh. He's a Cali kid through and through. The rest is probably his bitch ass uncle tbh

He's a Cali kid but he sold himself as an autistic, aw shucks, fuck who was scared of the limelight. Playing in LA would thrust himself right in the biggest of limelights with LeBron.

[FkLA]

He's a Cali kid but he sold himself as an autistic, aw shucks, fuck who was scared of the limelight. Playing in LA would thrust himself right in the biggest of limelights with LeBron.

He's never been scared of the limelight. People just confused his social ineptness with social anxiety. He's always seemed calm up on the podium (which would be a huge anxiety trigger for people with social anxiety).

[Mikeanaro]

So who has the case here? Tbh
Nike, they patented the logo so everything else is just would/should.

[hater]

:lmao Mute Cancer

[Wu36]

But I’d assume Kawhi could sell his own shirts or merchandise in Canada with his logo. New balance can’t. I don’t think IP is protected in other countries. I might be wrong but didn’t China get to keep making fake Jordan’s?

[Mikeanaro]

But I’d assume Kawhi could sell his own shirts or merchandise in Canada with his logo. New balance can’t. I don’t think IP is protected in other countries. I might be wrong but didn’t China get to keep making fake Jordan’s?
Come on, Nike is a multinational, they patent things for international purposes.
China products are counterfeit so thats another story.

[Wu36]

I’m not disagreeing with you. That was my first maybe kawhi has a chance post. I hope he spends a lot of money to fail at this.

[Reck]

The lawsuit says Nike never informed Leonard that they were applying for the copyright, or that they obtained it.

Why would they? If they had copyrighted the thing, is theirs.

Nike gains nothing by informing kawhi for something he forgot to do himself. You never give heads up to your competitor.

[HarlemHeat37]

Bruh! He literally couldn’t walk after the game :lol. I think it’s bad and the fact we have not heard anything about the MRI yet should be concerning.

It's a strain, he'll be out there for game 3..

[dbreiden83080]

Outside of his continuing to be rewarded free throws for extending his arm to push off and lowering his shoulder to power through, Scumbag's offensive efficiently has quietly been regressing to the mean for a while . . .

First 9 games of playoffs: 62.4 2pt%, 50 3pt%, 66.2 efg%
Last 11 games of playoffs: 48.2 2pt% 28.1 3pt%, 46.6 efg%

Spare me the "he's injured" excuse because if, as has been speculated, it's degenerative (funny how Duncan was never afforded the same courtesy his last 7 seasons), then this is how he'll be going forward the rare times he's willing to physically push himself.



Yeah, especially for a player who, at least without Durant, often needs to be in perpetual motion to create the requisite split second of daylight to generate open looks. They can't afford for him to be incapable of doing so or lacking elevation.

He also can't hide defensively because they need to prioritize Curry doing so on Green.

That’s why even going back to Golden State tied the series is wide open. They have so many injuries, and even if Kevin is back by game 4 he’s not going to be 100%. He’s likely to be very rusty.

[Wu36]

Not the correct thread but, hope the medical staff knew he was damaged goods. Took a shot a derozen and now moves on in a different direction.

[DJR210]

:lmao @ this dumbass suing Nike trying to say he created the KL hand logo.. Yeah, he drew that shit in college, he just never debuted it until Jordan signed him.. righhhhhhht :lol

[Reck]

:lmao @ this dumbass suing Nike trying to say he created the KL hand logo.. Yeah, he drew that shit in college, he just never debuted it until Jordan signed him.. righhhhhhht :lol

Oh so that's why he's been kissing Jordan's ass on his pressers lately. :cry I listen and take cues from Jordan. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Smart move to sue nike in the finals.

If Raps wins, it would put way too much pressure on Nike since the media is basically on Kawhi side vs Corporate.

If the raps lose. No one cares and Kawhi easily loses the lawsuit.

[FkLA]

Smart move to sue nike in the finals.

If Raps wins, it would put way too much pressure on Nike since the media is basically on Kawhi side vs Corporate.

If the raps lose. No one cares and Kawhi easily loses the lawsuit.

Your Raptors aren't winning it, bro. It's over. :lol

[DPG21920]

Your Raptors aren't winning it, bro. It's over. :lol

Raps have a great shot; I dont know what series you’ve been watching.

[Mikeanaro]

Raps have a great shot; I dont know what series you’ve been watching.
They have a shot, sure.
But not great, they choked the most important game without Klem in the 4th and Pizzaface.

[DPG21920]

They have a shot, sure.
But not great, they choked the most important game without Klem in the 4th and Pizzaface.

Klay played amazing and they won’t have to worry about for an entire game maybe; forget one quarter.

[FkLA]

Raps have a great shot; I dont know what series you’ve been watching.

Bet?

Oracle is a different beast. TOR has no shot unless both Klay and Durbeta are out for the series.

[Mikeanaro]

Klay played amazing and they won’t have to worry about for an entire game maybe; forget one quarter.
Yet they have Curry who had great games without Pizzaman, and a broken Iguodala who delivered when it mattered and Raymond hustling.
As I said before, they had a chance, but is not so big.
Cook has no fear and Cousins played decent for the little time he has with them.
Raps choked an open window with refs helping along the way.

[99 Problems]

Critical games as always coming up. Sounds weird but Raps could strike twice throwing the basketball world into fits tbh...

[Fusternino]

Cousins has actually been competent.

And yes US copyright extends to Canada . . . that is the whole point of trade deals.

[Jonnyblue19]

Bet?

Oracle is a different beast. TOR has no shot unless both Klay and Durbeta are out for the series.

Also Cousins seems to slowly be improving each game and role players play better at home. And Curry wasn't even playing well the last game either. It can get ugly for Toronto really quickly in Oakland.

[hombre]

Smart move to sue nike in the finals.

If Raps wins, it would put way too much pressure on Nike since the media is basically on Kawhi side vs Corporate.

If the raps lose. No one cares and Kawhi easily loses the lawsuit.

Yeah, the courts will rule based on the outcome of the finals. LOL.

Nike made $34.3 billion last year, while the entire NBA league made $7.4 billion, I'm not so sure Nike is be feeling much of anything if the Raptors won.

What a stupid way to spend your nephew's money.

[absoloot66]

This dummy traced his hand and called it a logo.

:lmao

[exstatic]

But I’d assume Kawhi could sell his own shirts or merchandise in Canada with his logo. New balance can’t. I don’t think IP is protected in other countries. I might be wrong but didn’t China get to keep making fake Jordan’s?

Don't use China as an example. They're intellectual thieves. It's funny that all of the companies that off-shored production there to save money are now losing money to cheap Chinese knockoff merchandise.

[duncan2k5]

so does duncan2k5 still wear Nike?

I don't spend my money on expensive shoes like an idiot

[JeffDuncan]

So who has the case here? Tbh

Leonard is black. He's local to southern California. He has demanded a jury trial. His father was murdered, in that general area. By the sweat of his brow, Leonard, a black man, became a great success.

Nike is almost all white at the top. It is a rich company, and the executives and directors are all rich. They are outsiders, to that area. They became rich white men while sitting in padded chairs in air conditioned offices. Were any of their fathers murdered at car washes? Har har.

It's going to turn political. It already is. We live in a highly charged political atmosphere. And it's southern Cali, where the media fruitbats circle endlessly. Not southern Texas.

Who will the jury be? Leonard's lawyers will do everything they can to make the jury mostly black. Those who aren't black, they will try to make sure are low income. The Nike lawyers may not be able to do much about that, because of the jury pool.

You can see a mile away where this is headed. It's a perfect setup for Nike to get massacred. Race. Income. The accusation that some rich whites dudes stole from a black man. The whole damn mess.

If they go to trial, Leonard will walk into court with the sympathy of the jury, and he will never lose it. Not there. Not under those circumstances. Not among those people.

Truth? Justice? Facts? It's going to go political. There won't be anything Nike can do about that, or the judge can do about that, although I'm sure he will say the right words.

In this political atmosphere we live in, in front of that jury, do you want to go into court as the "rich white oppressors" from the multi-billion dollar company, up against the local black man who sweats for his living, and try to prove with legal facts that no, you evil white men did not steal the valuable property that he says he created with his own two callused black hands? Which way do you think that jury is going to decide? Especially when the jury knows full well that to you, the rich, white multi-billion dollar company, that logo represents hardly more than petty cash, and you can do perfectly fine without it.

In the current political atmosphere, under those circumstances, in that location, I think it's already decided. Or am I too cynical?

It won't go to trial. Nike will settle. They will give what the lawsuit demands. Without admitting wrongdoing, they will give Leonard the copyright to that logo. Then they will move on.

That's my prediction. For what it's worth. I'm such a cynic.

The actual legal case? Does it matter?

Well, if it did....

Nike's case will hinge on the testimony of one key person. It isn't Leonard.

Somebody at Nike will have done the very first work for Nike on that logo. Leonard's lawyers will find out who that person is, and will put him, or her, on the witness stand, under oath. They will ask questions.

"Now, Mr. Joedoe, you say you were the first graphic designer at Nike who worked on this KL2 logo?"

"Yes."

"Where did you get the idea, the basic concept, on which you based your work? I mean, what got you started on it?"

"I got started on it, based on a drawing we received from Kawhi Leonard."

If Joedoe gives that answer, in court under oath, Nike's case falls stone cold dead. The trial will be effectively over. Leonard wins.

Compare.... you write a story, a novel. You think it's a good story, that might even be worth publishing. But man, you can't write worth a damn.

You do submit the manuscript to a publisher, tho. He takes a look at it, and he likes the story. But he sees your writing is hopeless. He gives it to an editor to work on. The editor fixes the spelling and grammar, and the paragraphs, and the chapter divisions, and tidies up the mess. He maybe even does a little rewrite of some dialogue that's especially awful. He notices a serious problem, like, you've got a character in two different places at the same time. He calls you for what you want to do about that, and he fixes it. The editor spends more time on it than you did, and almost tears his hair out over it. Eventually, he gets it into shape where it could actually be published. He gives it back to the publisher, who takes a look at it, and still likes it. He decides to publish it.

Who's the author? It was the editor who did the work it took to turn the story into a book. Does that make him the author? Nope. The author is still the "story person," which is you. It's your name that goes on the cover of the book.

A story can be viewed as certain characters, placed in a certain arrangement.

For the KL2 logo, who is the "story person?" Who was it who placed those characters in that arrangement?

The KL2 "story" has the "characters" of the big letters K and L and the 2, and the arrangement is the hand or fingers idea. Who wrote that "story?" So to speak.

If all Nike can show is that they were the "editors" - no matter how much work that took - they will lose.

But if Nike can show they came up with some essential elements, at least, like it was their own idea to arrange the thumb and a finger in a letter L, they'll have an authorship claim and a chance to win. Legally. But still, the politics of it, ugh.

Joint authorship is possible. But if that happens, Nike loses, especially from not telling the copyright office there was a joint author, who should share in the copyright.

So, again, it goes to what that Nike artist would say on the witness stand, about where the basic "story" came from. Was it his? Or suggested by someone else at Nike? Or did it come from Leonard?

It would be a dramatic moment in the trial. What will he say? Must-see tv.

We'll never see it. This won't go to trial. I don't think so, anyway. Hope I'm wrong.

P.S. Nike knows, now, what their artist can truthfully say. Or they certainly ought to know, already.

[BillMc]

According Bucher, Spurs tried to get KL to take a team discount (as TD and others had, presumably to give them cap flexibility) and Kawhi and/or his group were HIGHLY offended. And that was a lot of it. Obviously later (according to Windhorst) they came with the full SuperMax, but that was after the trade demand.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsmj_70eYM

[RD2191]

Leonard is black. He's local to southern California. He has demanded a jury trial. His father was murdered, in that general area. By the sweat of his brow, Leonard, a black man, became a great success.

Nike is almost all white at the top. It is a rich company, and the executives and directors are all rich. They are outsiders, to that area. They became rich white men while sitting in padded chairs in air conditioned offices. Were any of their fathers murdered at car washes? Har har.

It's going to turn political. It already is. We live in a highly charged political atmosphere. And it's southern Cali, where the media fruitbats circle endlessly. Not southern Texas.

Who will the jury be? Leonard's lawyers will do everything they can to make the jury mostly black. Those who aren't black, they will try to make sure are low income. The Nike lawyers may not be able to do much about that, because of the jury pool.

You can see a mile away where this is headed. It's a perfect setup for Nike to get massacred. Race. Income. The accusation that some rich whites dudes stole from a black man. The whole damn mess.

If they go to trial, Leonard will walk into court with the sympathy of the jury, and he will never lose it. Not there. Not under those circumstances. Not among those people.

Truth? Justice? Facts? It's going to go political. There won't be anything Nike can do about that, or the judge can do about that, although I'm sure he will say the right words.

In this political atmosphere we live in, in front of that jury, do you want to go into court as the "rich white oppressors" from the multi-billion dollar company, up against the local black man who sweats for his living, and try to prove with legal facts that no, you evil white men did not steal the valuable property that he says he created with his own two callused black hands? Which way do you think that jury is going to decide? Especially when the jury knows full well that to you, the rich, white multi-billion dollar company, that logo represents hardly more than petty cash, and you can do perfectly fine without it.

In the current political atmosphere, under those circumstances, in that location, I think it's already decided. Or am I too cynical?

It won't go to trial. Nike will settle. They will give what the lawsuit demands. Without admitting wrongdoing, they will give Leonard the copyright to that logo. Then they will move on.

That's my prediction. For what it's worth. I'm such a cynic.

The actual legal case? Does it matter?

Well, if it did....

Nike's case will hinge on the testimony of one key person. It isn't Leonard.

Somebody at Nike will have done the very first work for Nike on that logo. Leonard's lawyers will find out who that person is, and will put him, or her, on the witness stand, under oath. They will ask questions.

"Now, Mr. Joedoe, you say you were the first graphic designer at Nike who worked on this KL2 logo?"

"Yes."

"Where did you get the idea, the basic concept, on which you based your work? I mean, what got you started on it?"

"I got started on it, based on a drawing we received from Kawhi Leonard."

If Joedoe gives that answer, in court under oath, Nike's case falls stone cold dead. The trial will be effectively over. Leonard wins.

Compare.... you write a story, a novel. You think it's a good story, that might even be worth publishing. But man, you can't write worth a damn.

You do submit the manuscript to a publisher, tho. He takes a look at it, and he likes the story. But he sees your writing is hopeless. He gives it to an editor to work on. The editor fixes the spelling and grammar, and the paragraphs, and the chapter divisions, and tidies up the mess. He maybe even does a little rewrite of some dialogue that's especially awful. He notices a serious problem, like, you've got a character in two different places at the same time. He calls you for what you want to do about that, and he fixes it. The editor spends more time on it than you did, and almost tears his hair out over it. Eventually, he gets it into shape where it could actually be published. He gives it back to the publisher, who takes a look at it, and still likes it. He decides to publish it.

Who's the author? It was the editor who did the work it took to turn the story into a book. Does that make him the author? Nope. The author is still the "story person," which is you. It's your name that goes on the cover of the book.

A story can be viewed as certain characters, placed in a certain arrangement.

For the KL2 logo, who is the "story person?" Who was it who placed those characters in that arrangement?

The KL2 "story" has the "characters" of the big letters K and L and the 2, and the arrangement is the hand or fingers idea. Who wrote that "story?" So to speak.

If all Nike can show is that they were the "editors" - no matter how much work that took - they will lose.

But if Nike can show they came up with some essential elements, at least, like it was their own idea to arrange the thumb and a finger in a letter L, they'll have an authorship claim and a chance to win. Legally. But still, the politics of it, ugh.

Joint authorship is possible. But if that happens, Nike loses, especially from not telling the copyright office there was a joint author, who should share in the copyright.

So, again, it goes to what that Nike artist would say on the witness stand, about where the basic "story" came from. Was it his? Or suggested by someone else at Nike? Or did it come from Leonard?

It would be a dramatic moment in the trial. What will he say? Must-see tv.

We'll never see it. This won't go to trial. I don't think so, anyway. Hope I'm wrong.

P.S. Nike knows, now, what their artist can truthfully say. Or they certainly ought to know, already.

:tu thanks for the honest opinion. Hopefully things don't get too ugly.

[K...]

According Bucher, Spurs tried to get KL to take a team discount (as TD and others had, presumably to give them cap flexibility) and Kawhi and/or his group were HIGHLY offended. And that was a lot of it. Obviously later (according to Windhorst) they came with the full SuperMax, but that was after the trade demand.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsmj_70eYM

Call it what you want, but everyone and their mother knew the Spur would explore a pay cut and might trade kawhi rather than pay the dpe max. Leonard could have simply said "Boardman gets paid" and the Spurs would've relented. But it's a tantrum instead and history is past us now

[Harry Callahan]

You would think #2 would want 4 years or 5 years of guaranteed money to be beyond independently wealthy. Can you really trust this guy to fulfill the contract he signs? He really only provided his services for 2 years on a four year deal before reneging on his contractual committment.

The Spurs could have signed him to the 5 year Supermax and he could still have been a problem - he pissed on a good situation in San Antonio that provided him plenty of winning, money, and stats. I would wonder how committed he would be in SA long term every single day given his current MO.

Since he is now actually talking a little bit (because the NBA has forced him to at the Finals) he did not seem thrilled with his personal situation (in a box, lack of shots, etc.). Would this guy be a malcontent regardless of the money, minutes, or shots? You can't read a sphinx very easily.

[BackHome]

My only reasoning for not giving him Max at start was because of injury him not able to play back to backs after sitting out one year makes me believe we made right choice.

[slick'81]

My only reasoning for not giving him Max at start was because of injury him not able to play back to backs after sitting out one year makes me believe we made right choice.


Nope spurs asked him to take less to sign/trade another allstar and he was offended af

[exstatic]

Nope spurs asked him to take less to sign/trade another allstar and he was offended af

Nope. They (The Group) were mad at his second contract due to timing, not money. SA didn't want to extend him, because that would have ruined their cap sheet for LaMarcus. Load management ended up making MORE money by signing a new deal in 2015 than he would have if he had signed an extension the year before. The money issue was during the second contract, when discussing the third contract.

[slick'81]

Nope. They (The Group) were mad at his second contract due to timing, not money. SA didn't want to extend him, because that would have ruined their cap sheet for LaMarcus. Load management ended up making MORE money by signing a new deal in 2015 than he would have if he had signed an extension the year before. The money issue was during the second contract, when discussing the third contract.


Man spurs wouldnt penny up i guess

[exstatic]

Man spurs wouldnt penny up i guess

They told his group that the injury was degenerative. Two years later, he’s dragging a leg up and down the court.

[slick'81]

They told his group that the injury was degenerative. Two years later, he’s dragging a leg up and down the court.


Well see how his career plays out and demars here

[Kurgan]

Well see how his career plays out and demars here

One-legged Kawhi is still a hundred times more valuable then 100% Defrozan though. If we're going to be wasting $30 million of cap I'd rather it be on a real superstar instead of the upjumped Lou Williams we're currently overpaying.

[slick'81]

One-legged Kawhi is still a hundred times more valuable then 100% Defrozan though. If we're going to be wasting $30 million of cap I'd rather it be on a real superstar instead of the upjumped Lou Williams we're currently overpaying.


Hey man demar is one of the last players i would of traded quitter for but it is what it is. Atleast hes a good guy to root for :(

[UZER]

Leonard is black. He's local to southern California. He has demanded a jury trial. His father was murdered, in that general area. By the sweat of his brow, Leonard, a black man, became a great success.

Nike is almost all white at the top. It is a rich company, and the executives and directors are all rich. They are outsiders, to that area. They became rich white men while sitting in padded chairs in air conditioned offices. Were any of their fathers murdered at car washes? Har har.

It's going to turn political. It already is. We live in a highly charged political atmosphere. And it's southern Cali, where the media fruitbats circle endlessly. Not southern Texas.

Who will the jury be? Leonard's lawyers will do everything they can to make the jury mostly black. Those who aren't black, they will try to make sure are low income. The Nike lawyers may not be able to do much about that, because of the jury pool.

You can see a mile away where this is headed. It's a perfect setup for Nike to get massacred. Race. Income. The accusation that some rich whites dudes stole from a black man. The whole damn mess.

If they go to trial, Leonard will walk into court with the sympathy of the jury, and he will never lose it. Not there. Not under those circumstances. Not among those people.

Truth? Justice? Facts? It's going to go political. There won't be anything Nike can do about that, or the judge can do about that, although I'm sure he will say the right words.

In this political atmosphere we live in, in front of that jury, do you want to go into court as the "rich white oppressors" from the multi-billion dollar company, up against the local black man who sweats for his living, and try to prove with legal facts that no, you evil white men did not steal the valuable property that he says he created with his own two callused black hands? Which way do you think that jury is going to decide? Especially when the jury knows full well that to you, the rich, white multi-billion dollar company, that logo represents hardly more than petty cash, and you can do perfectly fine without it.

In the current political atmosphere, under those circumstances, in that location, I think it's already decided. Or am I too cynical?

It won't go to trial. Nike will settle. They will give what the lawsuit demands. Without admitting wrongdoing, they will give Leonard the copyright to that logo. Then they will move on.

That's my prediction. For what it's worth. I'm such a cynic.

The actual legal case? Does it matter?

Well, if it did....

Nike's case will hinge on the testimony of one key person. It isn't Leonard.

Somebody at Nike will have done the very first work for Nike on that logo. Leonard's lawyers will find out who that person is, and will put him, or her, on the witness stand, under oath. They will ask questions.

"Now, Mr. Joedoe, you say you were the first graphic designer at Nike who worked on this KL2 logo?"

"Yes."

"Where did you get the idea, the basic concept, on which you based your work? I mean, what got you started on it?"

"I got started on it, based on a drawing we received from Kawhi Leonard."

If Joedoe gives that answer, in court under oath, Nike's case falls stone cold dead. The trial will be effectively over. Leonard wins.

Compare.... you write a story, a novel. You think it's a good story, that might even be worth publishing. But man, you can't write worth a damn.

You do submit the manuscript to a publisher, tho. He takes a look at it, and he likes the story. But he sees your writing is hopeless. He gives it to an editor to work on. The editor fixes the spelling and grammar, and the paragraphs, and the chapter divisions, and tidies up the mess. He maybe even does a little rewrite of some dialogue that's especially awful. He notices a serious problem, like, you've got a character in two different places at the same time. He calls you for what you want to do about that, and he fixes it. The editor spends more time on it than you did, and almost tears his hair out over it. Eventually, he gets it into shape where it could actually be published. He gives it back to the publisher, who takes a look at it, and still likes it. He decides to publish it.

Who's the author? It was the editor who did the work it took to turn the story into a book. Does that make him the author? Nope. The author is still the "story person," which is you. It's your name that goes on the cover of the book.

A story can be viewed as certain characters, placed in a certain arrangement.

For the KL2 logo, who is the "story person?" Who was it who placed those characters in that arrangement?

The KL2 "story" has the "characters" of the big letters K and L and the 2, and the arrangement is the hand or fingers idea. Who wrote that "story?" So to speak.

If all Nike can show is that they were the "editors" - no matter how much work that took - they will lose.

But if Nike can show they came up with some essential elements, at least, like it was their own idea to arrange the thumb and a finger in a letter L, they'll have an authorship claim and a chance to win. Legally. But still, the politics of it, ugh.

Joint authorship is possible. But if that happens, Nike loses, especially from not telling the copyright office there was a joint author, who should share in the copyright.

So, again, it goes to what that Nike artist would say on the witness stand, about where the basic "story" came from. Was it his? Or suggested by someone else at Nike? Or did it come from Leonard?

It would be a dramatic moment in the trial. What will he say? Must-see tv.

We'll never see it. This won't go to trial. I don't think so, anyway. Hope I'm wrong.

P.S. Nike knows, now, what their artist can truthfully say. Or they certainly ought to know, already.

Just hold on for one cotton pickin minute...

Isn’t this the same Nike that had an entire campaign supporting Kaepernick and made millions? Crusty old white men and all? You mean it’s really all about the money?

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q2EzSeYSjk

[apalisoc_9]

Crazy. Kawhi Lepnard best player in the NBA and hes not even 100% :lol

I say thank you Dad Killer.

Dad killer second threepeat is a good blueprint for kawhi since hes never going to be 100%.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If the Spurs actually refused to give him the supermax on the first go around they might be he most incompetent front office in the world

Kawhi on one leg is dragging his team to a finals berth while the Spurs get one of the the biggest empty stats players on DeRozan and Aldridge who are massive playoff chokers that can’t fet tighter tjan a seventh seed without Kawhi.

I can guarantee you Pop regrets every single day since Kawhi left. The franchise is set back ten years.

[Dennis the Menace]

If the Spurs actually refused to give him the supermax on the first go around they might be he most incompetent front office in the world

Kawhi on one leg is dragging his team to a finals berth while the Spurs get one of the the biggest empty stats players on DeRozan and Aldridge who are massive playoff chokers that can’t fet tighter tjan a seventh seed without Kawhi.

I can guarantee you Pop regrets every single day since Kawhi left. The franchise is set back ten years.

While giving Patty “no pressure to perform” Mills and Pau Gasol absurd contracts....

[GreekSpursfan]

If the Spurs actually refused to give him the supermax on the first go around they might be he most incompetent front office in the world

Kawhi on one leg is dragging his team to a finals berth while the Spurs get one of the the biggest empty stats players on DeRozan and Aldridge who are massive playoff chokers that can’t fet tighter tjan a seventh seed without Kawhi.

I can guarantee you Pop regrets every single day since Kawhi left. The franchise is set back ten years.

Kawhi looked pretty great in the entire series with the Bucks outside of the last game and he was fine in game 1 of the finals. Lets not overblow things just to make our argument seem valid.
Also lets not forget that he's probably the most fresh star in the entire playoffs due to the load management situation and Toronto being stacked as fuck helped with that.

[RC_Drunkford]

I don't spend my money on expensive shoes like an idiot

I already knew you was a bum before you told me spending 80$ for a pair of shoes is "expensive"

[ceperez]

How Leonard trash talks:

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/06/raptors-kawhi-leonard-trash-talk?fbclid=IwAR1fn_1g4Y4VtPVO1V390tfJSI203OCZMyws EcMU0xT2T6Xqw3621oFYwMQ

[J_Paco]

Crazy. Kawhi Lepnard best player in the NBA and hes not even 100% :lol

I say thank you Dad Killer.

Dad killer second threepeat is a good blueprint for kawhi since hes never going to be 100%.

But he isn't the best player in the league.....

One great playoff run doesn't make you the best (otherwise Wade and Dirk were certainly the "best player in the league"). Only in this "trapped in the moment," YouTube, microwave society do we prop up a guy for playing "incredible" in a small sample size (after missing 20 games for "load management").

Durant and Antetokounmpo (even with his flaws) are just as good, impactful and (more) talented. Leonard has learned to use bully ball to compensate for his loss in explosion/bounce. His efficiency has tanked the further and further he's gotten each round too. Could fatigue/injury be playing a factor?

[J_Paco]

If the Spurs actually refused to give him the supermax on the first go around they might be he most incompetent front office in the world

Kawhi on one leg is dragging his team to a finals berth while the Spurs get one of the the biggest empty stats players on DeRozan and Aldridge who are massive playoff chokers that can’t fet tighter tjan a seventh seed without Kawhi.

I can guarantee you Pop regrets every single day since Kawhi left. The franchise is set back ten years.


Do you need a tampon or Kleenex?

Sure the greatest front - office the team has ever had is "incompetent" because they (allegedly) "lowballed" a disgruntled, malcontent (with a chronic/degenerative injury) that intentionally missed 73 games that same season.

Yes, they were in the wrong in that scenario....

They were "wrong" to (allegedly) hedge their bets so they wouldn't end up like the Bulls at the end of the Rose saga.....

[BillMc]

Do you need a tampon or Kleenex?

Sure the greatest front - office the team has ever had is "incompetent" because they (allegedly) "lowballed" a disgruntled, malcontent (with a chronic/degenerative injury) that intentionally missed 73 games that same season.

Yes, they were in the wrong in that scenario....

They were "wrong" to (allegedly) hedge their bets so they wouldn't end up like the Bulls at the end of the Rose saga.....

I doubt they lowballed him. They probably just explained why it would be useful regarding cap space if he'd be willing to leave a little on the table. David, TD, Manu and Tony all did that at times to help the team. Kawhi or his representatives either took genuine offense at the mere asking (if so he's a diva) or used it as a pretext to claim they were being disrespected to push their agenda. After all, this is the same guy/group who somehow was offended that the Spurs made him wait on his previous contract so they could add LMA (even though he actually got more money by waiting and another all star to play with). Stuff like this, is why when I hear the Spurs could never get Kawhi alone to have a real talk with him, make me think

[Maddog]

Do you need a tampon or Kleenex?

Sure the greatest front - office the team has ever had is "incompetent" because they (allegedly) "lowballed" a disgruntled, malcontent (with a chronic/degenerative injury) that intentionally missed 73 games that same season.

Yes, they were in the wrong in that scenario....

They were "wrong" to (allegedly) hedge their bets so they wouldn't end up like the Bulls at the end of the Rose saga.....


I doubt they lowballed him. They probably just explained why it would be useful regarding cap space if he'd be willing to leave a little on the table. David, TD, Manu and Tony all did that at times to help the team. Kawhi or his representatives either took genuine offense at the mere asking (if so he's a diva) or used it as a pretext to claim they were being disrespected to push their agenda. After all, this is the same guy/group who somehow was offended that the Spurs made him wait on his previous contract so they could add LMA (even though he actually got more money by waiting and another all star to play with). Stuff like this, is why when I hear the Spurs could never get Kawhi alone to have a real talk with him, make me think

Whatever the Spurs did they where operating in the dark and dealing with a group looking to capitalize on any issues.
Yes I think the Spurs made a few missteps- but end of the day- I don't think there was anything that would have changed the outcome. I still go back to the point- can someone give me an example of a similar injury as nephews?

[ZeusWillJudge]

It was his idea though? Nike just refined it? Tough call tbh


Not really. You can't patent OR copyright an idea. If Kawhi had paid a graphic design firm to create a logo for him, it would belong to him. He didn't. He sent an idea to Nike, who was creating a logo for products THEY sell, and Kawhi was paid millions to allow them to sell that gear. Unless the work is commissioned, a design belongs to the artist. And when you're an artist working on the payroll of a company, that usually means the intellectual property belongs to the company who pays your salary.

All the debate, all the fucking "experts" here, don't add up to shit. The intellectual property laws are pretty clear and consistent. Kawhi even said in an interview that he sent them an idea, but they "made it perfect". Yep. That's what logo artists do. If he didn't want Nike to do that, he wouldn't have sent them the idea. Pretty much every company that contracts to have a logo designed has a meeting or two where they give the artist some idea of what they want. But Kawhi didn't commission Nike - he just sent them an idea for a logo.

Do a quick Google search on something like, "Can you patent an idea" or "Can you copyright an idea". Or... you can just stay here and listen to a guy who makes shit up, because he thinks it sounds smart. Nike may relent, or sell the logo to Kawhi, because it can't do them a whole lot of good now. But they don't have to. And they may well decide to send a message that they won't let any of "their" athletes shake them down in the future.

[BillMc]

Not really. You can't patent OR copyright an idea. If Kawhi had paid a graphic design firm to create a logo for him, it would belong to him. He didn't. He sent an idea to Nike, who was creating a logo for products THEY sell, and Kawhi was paid millions to allow them to sell that gear. Unless the work is commissioned, a design belongs to the artist. And when you're an artist working on the payroll of a company, that usually means the intellectual property belongs to the company who pays your salary.

All the debate, all the fucking "experts" here, don't add up to shit. The intellectual property laws are pretty clear and consistent. Kawhi even said in an interview that he sent them an idea, but they "made it perfect". Yep. That's what logo artists do. If he didn't want Nike to do that, he wouldn't have sent them the idea. Pretty much every company that contracts to have a logo designed has a meeting or two where they give the artist some idea of what they want. But Kawhi didn't commission Nike - he just sent them an idea for a logo.

Do a quick Google search on something like, "Can you patent an idea" or "Can you copyright an idea". Or... you can just stay here and listen to a guy who makes shit up, because he thinks it sounds smart. Nike may relent, or sell the logo to Kawhi, because it can't do them a whole lot of good now. But they don't have to. And they may well decide to send a message that they won't let any of "their" athletes shake them down in the future.

I agree with you. But I am puzzled by why Kawhi's lawyers would file a lawsuit that has little/no chance of winning. Either there is more to it, or they think Nike just won't care and give them the logo back (in essence this is meant as leverage for negotiating the "return" of the logo), or Kawhi just ignores his own lawyers' advice and orders them to go ahead, in which case they just happily bill him on a case they know they'll lose.

[exstatic]

I agree with you. But I am puzzled by why Kawhi's lawyers would file a lawsuit that has little/no chance of winning. Either there is more to it, or they think Nike just won't care and give them the logo back (in essence this is meant as leverage for negotiating the "return" of the logo), or Kawhi just ignores his own lawyers' advice and orders them to go ahead, in which case they just happily bill him on a case they know they'll lose.

People sue all of the time without grounds. They just lose. I'm thinking that The Group is desperate for revenue streams since his quad seems to have not benefited from basically an entire season off, and 25% of the next one, too.

[loveforthegame]

I agree with you. But I am puzzled by why Kawhi's lawyers would file a lawsuit that has little/no chance of winning. Either there is more to it, or they think Nike just won't care and give them the logo back (in essence this is meant as leverage for negotiating the "return" of the logo), or Kawhi just ignores his own lawyers' advice and orders them to go ahead, in which case they just happily bill him on a case they know they'll lose.

This is a lengthy read but it walks through what Leonard filed and claims he has as proof.

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/06/04/kawhi-leonard-nike-logo-lawsuit-new-balance-raptors-clippers-free-agency

Found this cliff notes version on real gm from poster crookedJ:


He started drawing this in college. Traced his hand and drew initials inside it.

He claims he sought design advice from his own contacts before Nike ever saw it. Circa 2011/2012.

Circa 2014 he and Nike agreed that he needed a unique logo for his products.

He sent them his existing logo that he designed. They made many suggestions and edits and he rejected them. This went back and forth and he has a paper trail.

In the end they agreed to use something that seems to be close to his original design.

He indicates that he has in writing the logo was his and for Nike's use on his Nike products during their agreement only.

He continued to use the logo on his own personal clothes, camps, appearances and such with no objection from Nike during their partnership.

His team brings to Nike's attention that his logo is being used illegitimately by third parties and Nike takes no action ( this is usually a problem in a trademark defense - not taking action to defend the mark)

Nike obtains trademark on the "Leonard logo" in April 2017 falsely claiming they designed it in 2014. Kawhi also received trademark protection for his logo and two other items in Nov 2017. ( this portion is very confusing - we will need to see what they have each trademarked to figure this part out)

Nike tells him to stop wearing the logo it in 2018 after he doesn't extend his contract with Nike. He wears it more and tell them to rescind their rights to it.

Kawhi told to cease and desist from wearing his logo in March 2019.

He wants a jury trial, and he is not seeking monetary damages. Seeking clarification from the court that he owns it.


Most opinions I’ve been reading believe it’ll never go to trial and that they’ll settle. Nike will hand the logo back to Leonard for a price and both will move on. It sounds like it’ll come down to time.

[loveforthegame]

DP. Sorry.

[BillMc]

This is a lengthy read but it walks through what Leonard filed and claims he has as proof.

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/06/04/kawhi-leonard-nike-logo-lawsuit-new-balance-raptors-clippers-free-agency

Found this cliff notes version on real gm from poster crookedJ:




Most opinions I’ve been reading believe it’ll never go to trial and that they’ll settle. Nike will hand the logo back to Leonard for a price and both will move on. It sounds like it’ll come down to time.

Thanks for posting the info bro.:bobo

[Keepin' it real]

can someone give me an example of a similar injury as nephews?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3o6ZtpRoYe9wbyfcBi/giphy.gif?cid=790b76115cf7ff67705575776bbf4aa9&rid=giphy.gif

Unlike Kawhi, Peter was still able to wipe his own ass and was ready to perform by the next episode.

[BillMc]

The Board Man thread has been closed, all ST mourns.

[exstatic]

The Board Man thread has been closed, all ST mourns.

Not all, and Kori and LJ really need to prune back dabom's obvious alts in addition to thread locking.

[weeks]

i'm not impressed by him 'dragging' a team to a finals in the shitty east.
the fucking east :lol

kawhi choked every year in the west. he got bullied by MVParker and Matt Barnes
being impressed by eastern conference stats :lol

ddr perpetual all star in the east - nobody out west :lol

lottery lebron :lol

You guys act like he took a team of basement dwellers to the promised land. Raps were already an ECF team before he arrived - and then lebron left!
I guess any excuse that lets you gargle his nuts while crying about Pop

[RD2191]

i'm not impressed by him 'dragging' a team to a finals in the shitty east.
the fucking east :lol

kawhi choked every year in the west. he got bullied by MVParker and Matt Barnes
being impressed by eastern conference stats :lol

ddr perpetual all star in the east - nobody out west :lol

lottery lebron :lol

You guys act like he took a team of basement dwellers to the promised land. Raps were already an ECF team before he arrived - and then lebron left!
I guess any excuse that lets you gargle his nuts while crying about Pop

Yes, we know you're a huge faggot.

[SpurPadre]

i'm not impressed by him 'dragging' a team to a finals in the shitty east.
the fucking east :lol

kawhi choked every year in the west. he got bullied by MVParker and Matt Barnes
being impressed by eastern conference stats :lol

ddr perpetual all star in the east - nobody out west :lol

lottery lebron :lol

You guys act like he took a team of basement dwellers to the promised land. Raps were already an ECF team before he arrived - and then lebron left!
I guess any excuse that lets you gargle his nuts while crying about Pop

Kawhi also cost us in Game 6 with his missed free throws. Fucking asshole.

[Collins21]

Yes, we know you're a huge faggot.
Nah that's your response to everything because you know nothing about basketball.

[weeks]

Yes, we know you're a huge faggot.

kawhi, i love you! please!! :cry

you gotta get married before you can let him fuck your wife rob

[weeks]

bottom line: he took an eastern team from the ECF to the Finals after Lebron left
what a legend :rolleyes

[HarlemHeat37]

Yes, we know you're a huge faggot.

lol

[weeks]

If he really is the 'best player in the nba' surely he'll beat one of the weakest Golden state teams ever. I mean lebron did it and he didn't even have home court.
if not then color me unimpressed. The Dubs look extremely vulnerable right now.

carry on with your cucky hero worship if you want :wakeup

[J_Paco]

bottom line: he took an eastern team from the ECF to the Finals after Lebron left
what a legend :rolleyes

But, but, but, he da best player in da league! Look at them "counting" stats as proof, hata!

[weeks]

But, but, but, he da best player in da league! Look at them "counting" stats as proof, hata!

Kawhi was right to fuck us over we deserved it don't you understand? he's so awesome and we're such trash :( please abuse us some more sir! -slob slob-

that damn trade gave half the forum battered-wife syndrome :lol
I expect that shit from Amused, but some of these cats disappoint me

[J_Paco]

Kawhi was right to fuck us over we deserved it don't you understand? he's so awesome and we're such trash :( please abuse us some more sir! -slob slob-

that damn trade gave half the forum battered-wife syndrome :lol
I expect that shit from Amused, but some of these cats disappoint me

Really, they are here to troll and create toxicity amongst the legitimate team fans.

Similar to the group that was throwing dirt on Timmy's grave ("TOSB, TOSB, TOSB") and whining that Tony gave an honest, earnest answer that he thought "the team isn't a championship contender" around 2008 - 2011.

[RD2191]

Nah that's your response to everything because you know nothing about basketball.

Shut your bitch ass up

[Dejounte]

Shut your bitch ass up

You sound dumb as hell with no substance to offer ever.

[TD 21]

But he isn't the best player in the league.....

One great playoff run doesn't make you the best (otherwise Wade and Dirk were certainly the "best player in the league"). Only in this "trapped in the moment," YouTube, microwave society do we prop up a guy for playing "incredible" in a small sample size (after missing 20 games for "load management").

Durant and Antetokounmpo (even with his flaws) are just as good, impactful and (more) talented. Leonard has learned to use bully ball to compensate for his loss in explosion/bounce. His efficiency has tanked the further and further he's gotten each round too. Could fatigue/injury be playing a factor?

:lmao At falling for his shtick after all these years.

I don't know how anyone could seriously call anyone definitively better than James until there's conclusive evidence that he can't reach a level in the playoffs that none of the others ever have . . . and spare me the "he didn't even make the playoffs" line. He missed significant time, on a poorly assembled, banged up team, in the deeper conference.

Want to project some decline + give credence to Curry, Durant and Scumbag for their proven playoff ability? Fine, put them in his tier. Want to give credence to Harden, Antetokounmpo and Davis for their ability to carry a regular season load that he probably can't anymore? Fine, put them in his tier too. But don't pretend anyone has definitively separated.

[RC_Drunkford]

bottom line: he took an eastern team from the ECF to the Finals after Lebron left
what a legend :rolleyes

you damn sure know that if you swap DeMar DePression with Kawhi this Toronto team wouldn't be able to beat the Bucks nor the Sixers

[RD2191]

You sound dumb as hell with no substance to offer ever.

Why engage fools? Kawhi is garbage? Really? Trying to diminish and discredit his finals run for absolutely no reason other than being salty that he left the spurs? Fuck that noise.

[weeks]

you damn sure know that if you swap DeMar DePression with Kawhi this Toronto team wouldn't be able to beat the Bucks nor the Sixers

yes he is a better player than DDR.
like i said, DDR was an all-star in the east. In the west he's a nobody.
that's my point. The east is a joke and getting to the finals doesn't mean what it does over here.

Let him beat GS in their vulnerable state and then start gushing over how he's the best player in the league. Being better than DeProzac aint some damned achievement.

we'll never know if the raptors could have beaten those teams, so all we have to go on are results. Get some meaningful fuckin results before crowning the bitch.

Want to suck his dick for making the finals? Wait until he comes out west and does it where the real competition is. As a leader of a Western Conference contender he dragged them to exactly 0 fucking finals.
christ with these white knight clowns.

[weeks]

Why engage fools? Kawhi is garbage? Really? Trying to diminish and discredit his finals run for absolutely no reason other than being salty that he left the spurs? Fuck that noise.

Lebron beat a much better GS without home court.
If Kawhi can't even pull that off he's got no right to be mentioned in the same breath and you know it. He hasn't proven shit.

[weeks]

Lebron took lottery teams to the finals in the :lol east

[RD2191]

Lebron beat a much better GS without home court.
If Kawhi can't even pull that off he's got no right to be mentioned in the same breath and you know it. He hasn't proven shit.

:lol sure buddy. Keep trying to delude yourself. Kawhi is the best player in the NBA as of today.

[J_Paco]

:lmao At falling for his shtick after all these years.

I don't know how anyone could seriously call anyone definitively better than James until there's conclusive evidence that he can't reach a level in the playoffs that none of the others ever have . . . and spare me the "he didn't even make the playoffs" line. He missed significant time, on a poorly assembled, banged up team, in the deeper conference.

Want to project some decline + give credence to Curry, Durant and Scumbag for their proven playoff ability? Fine, put them in his tier. Want to give credence to Harden, Antetokounmpo and Davis for their ability to carry a regular season load that he probably can't anymore? Fine, put them in his tier too. But don't pretend anyone has definitively separated.

I know the idiot (like most people on here) is trolling, genius. Still doesn't mean I'll just let him heap undeserving praise on Nephew.

And James is no longer the best player and has been surpassed (or matched) by Antetokounmpo, Leonard and Durant. Durant (when 100% healthy) being the best player currently in the NBA. And he doesn't have to surpass some made up "barrier" when he's a league MVP, multiple scoring champ and has outplayed/beat LeBron twice in the Finals.

The "LeBron is the best player in the world" ship has sailed especially with how poor defensively he's become and the terrible, terrible leadership he displayed this season.

[RD2191]

Now if Kawhi loses tonight with klay and kd out then yeah, he's a choking faggot lol.

[hater]

Now if Kawhi loses tonight with klay and kd out then yeah, he's a choking faggot lol.

Mute Cancer will choke tonight or next night or next niga

[DAF86]

How lucky can this faggot get? :lol

[RD2191]

How lucky can this faggot get? :lol

As lucky as the warriors tbh. Injuries finally caught up with them. It was about time tbh. Yet the series still isn't over. KD and Klay could come back at any and it would be over tbh. :lol

[Dverde]

This finals feels like the 2016 Presidential election. No matter who wins, we all lose.

[hater]

This finals feels like the 2020 Presidential election. No matter who wins, we all lose.

FIFY

[r0drig0lac]

Kawhi playing stupid basketball

[Degoat]

The raptors can’t miss lol

[r0drig0lac]

https://twitter.com/danieeeeI/status/1136438571617964032

[Genovaswitness]

PATFO continuing looking like the laughing stock of the league. can’t wait for kawhi to get his second finals MVP :lmao

[Blackhaus]

Bunch of salty motha fuckas in here. If he was still on the spurs and didn’t quit on them y’all would still be slobbin on that knob

[TimDunkem]

Was giving up Danny worth Turdtl? Watching Danny hit these threes in the Finals while we double down on non-shooters (with a possible SL next season that has 4 out of 5 players that can't shoot) makes me sick.

[RD2191]

https://twitter.com/danieeeeI/status/1136438571617964032

:lmao

[Blackhaus]

Shoulda just kept kwitter, wore his ass out and let him walk after this season. At least we’d have some cap space

[SpurPadre]

Danny must feel good not to have a teammate that begs the other team to stop leaving him open.

[loveforthegame]

Danny must feel good not to have a teammate that begs the other team to stop leaving him open.

:lol

[Genovaswitness]

I wonder what DePression is thinking right now :lmao

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Spurs should be demoted to the NCAA

Absolutley cucked!!!!

[Hoops Czar]

I thought the series was over... Oops, Spurstalk did it again!

[NASpurs]

Bunch of salty motha fuckas in here. If he was still on the spurs and didn’t quit on them y’all would still be slobbin on that knob

lmao seriously

I’m enjoying this. Fuck the Warriors.

[Harry Callahan]

Time to break these out - are you ready? ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** **********************

Being provided a cakewalk is not all that impressive.

[NASpurs]

I wonder what DePression is thinking right now :lmao

Probably looking for more emo faggy lyrics like the 14 year old girl that he is.

[weeks]

fuck he's actually going to do it and i'm going to reach salt levels i never thought possible :lol god dammit

[Genovaswitness]

Spurs should be demoted to the NCAA

Absolutley cucked!!!!

this tbh

[r0drig0lac]

lmao seriously

I’m enjoying this. Fuck the Warriors.

anyone who likes basketball is cheering against the warriors is all they represent (shameless stacking of stars, Iggy chatting with gsw in the middle of a playoff series when he was still playing for Denver, Durant being the final beta, etc.)

[soxxx]

The Raptors have outplayed the Warriors in 11 of 12 quarters, if not for the one bad quarter, this would be 3-0. This reminds me of the 2014 finals, the Warriors have run their course, the Raptors look better, play better, and are just nailing their shots except for that one quarter.

[Genovaswitness]

Probably looking for more emo faggy lyrics like the 14 year old girl that he is.

Just go to Nipsey hussles top tracks on Spotify :lmao

[Harry Callahan]

I really don't like either team for many many reasons, so screw 'em both.

[SpurPadre]

Asterisk title but this is still a fucking nightmare scenario...

[SpurPadre]

The Raptors have outplayed the Warriors in 11 of 12 quarters, if not for the one bad quarter, this would be 3-0. This reminds me of the 2014 finals, the Warriors have run their course, the Raptors look better, play better, and are just nailing their shots except for that one quarter.

The Dubs are missing two All-Stars.

[soxxx]

The Dubs are missing two All-Stars.
Klay played game 1 and 2, Raptors played better in 7 of those 8 quarters. Raptors would still be making their shots if Durant was there, it wouldn't change a damn thing.

[Genovaswitness]

Asterisk title but this is still a fucking nightmare scenario...

there is no such thing as an asterisk title

[NASpurs]

The Dubs are missing two All-Stars.

WGAF, fuck those assholes.

[SpurPadre]

Klay played game 1 and 2, Raptors played better in 7 of those 8 quarters. Raptors would still be making their shots if Durant was there, it wouldn't change a damn thing.

Except that a healthy Durant would be dropping 40 a game against the guy he branded a system player 5 years ago.

[NASpurs]

VanVleet again with the luck shot :wow :lol

[soxxx]

Raptors are just making their shots, its incredible.

[Genovaswitness]

kawhi is a full-on playmaker now. PATFO :lmao

[soxxx]

Except that a healthy Durant would be dropping 40 a game against the guy he branded a system player 5 years ago.
And Curry wouldn't be scoring as much, and they would lose the same way they lost 5 of their first 11 playoff games with Durant.

[SpurPadre]

there is no such thing as an asterisk title

Of course there is. Last happened in 2013 when we literally hand gifted the title to the Heat and one particular load manager choked at the free throw line to cost us the game.

[NASpurs]

LDN :cry

[NASpurs]

Saying that, I don't have faith in Toronto. The possibility of a choke being up 2-1 is quite strong. :lol

[loveforthegame]

Leonard played a smarter second half. Unreal.

[Hoops Czar]

The Dubs are missing two All-Stars.
In that case, has GS won a title that doesn't have an asterisk?

[SpurPadre]

In that case, has GS won a title that doesn't have an asterisk?

No. Spurs are the last legitimate Champions, tbh.

[gambit1990]

30, 7, 6, 2, 2 on 53% shooting.

[r0drig0lac]

30, 7, 6, 2, 2 on 53% shooting.

BITW

[UZER]

:lol Pop

But but patty Mills has culture.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Saying that, I don't have faith in Toronto. The possibility of a choke being up 2-1 is quite strong. :lol

If Durant and Klay return it won’t be a choke

[spurs1990]

Very cool Danny Green having a huge night. Makes it slightly less stomach turning that the quitter will earn a ring.

[SpurPadre]

WGAF, fuck those assholes.

Fuck Kawhi. It takes a special kind of asshole to make the fucking Dubs look like good guys and that Load Managing piece of shit has done that, tbh.

[Mugen]

:lol At least it's the Warriors tbh

[NASpurs]

If Durant and Klay return it won’t be a choke

Well yeah obviously but as things are right now.