The Official Trump is Doing Awesome Thread

[Pavlov]

I'd like to see Pavlov's explanation too. Here's a previous post of mine:

Let's use the average US median salary of $44148 rounded down to 44k for ease:

Current taxes for 2017 (single filer)
44000 - 10400 = 33600 taxable income
0-9325 taxed at 10% = 932.50 tax
33600-9325 = 24275 taxed at 15% = 3641.25 tax
932.50 + 24275 = 4573.75 total tax

Trump's plan
44000-12000 = 32000 taxable income
32000 taxed at 12% = 3840 total tax

As far as I know $3840 < $4573.75

It's a disgrace that this article is being passed around to all the media outlets without some one at least checking the math. I don't believe everything I read, and I always check my math especially when it comes to money.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2016/10/25/irs-announces-2017-tax-rates-standard-deductions-exemption-amounts-and-more/#db6e78570175What about when the cuts expire?

[rmt]

What about when the cuts expire?

Then whoever is in the government then will get to deal with them. I assumed that when you said your taxes will go up, you mean when the law goes into effect - not 10 years later.

[Pavlov]

Then whoever is in the government then will get to deal with them. I assumed that when you said your taxes will go up, you mean when the law goes into effect - not 10 years later.Why make some cuts expire at all when others in the law definitely do not expire?

[rmt]

Why make some cuts expire at all when others in the law definitely do not expire?

If all the cuts cannot continue (to fit under whatever limit for the next 10 years), something has to expire. Better the personal tax than the business. You can't pay taxes if you don't have a job and higher business taxes encourage leaving to Canada/Ireland.

[Pavlov]

If all the cuts cannot continue (to fit under whatever limit for the next 10 years), something has to expire. Better the personal tax than the business. You can't pay taxes if you don't have a job and higher business taxes encourage leaving to Canada/Ireland.So better to screw the middle class and poor.

Yeah, all our jobs went to Ireland.

[rmt]

So better to screw the middle class and poor.

Yeah, all our jobs went to Ireland.

700 US companies now located in Ireland as direct investment soars

A major draw for US firms is Ireland’s low 12.5% corporation tax rate and numerous controversial tax breaks

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/05/ireland-attracts-soaring-level-of-us-investment

This article was back in Mar 2015 - so probably more than 700 companies by now. It's a multi-fold problem - the companies employ 130,000 (as of this article - probably more now) - plus the supporting businesses (you know, all those restaurants/commercial real estate/cleaners - other jobs for the middle class and poor). And when these companies move to Ireland, they pay corporate taxes (12.5%) to Ireland - not to the US (38.9%).

[da_suns_fan]

Disgusting

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Yeah, that will prevent all gun deaths in America. Just get rid of the illegals.

[Pavlov]

700 US companies now located in Ireland as direct investment soars

A major draw for US firms is Ireland’s low 12.5% corporation tax rate and numerous controversial tax breaks

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/05/ireland-attracts-soaring-level-of-us-investment

This article was back in Mar 2015 - so probably more than 700 companies by now. It's a multi-fold problem - the companies employ 130,000 (as of this article - probably more now) - plus the supporting businesses (you know, all those restaurants/commercial real estate/cleaners - other jobs for the middle class and poor). And when these companies move to Ireland, they pay corporate taxes (12.5%) to Ireland - not to the US (38.9%).:lol 38.9%

You really believe the crap you're fed or do you just repeat it?

[da_suns_fan]

I'd like to see Pavlov's explanation too. Here's a previous post of mine:

Let's use the average US median salary of $44148 rounded down to 44k for ease:

Current taxes for 2017 (single filer)
44000 - 10400 = 33600 taxable income
0-9325 taxed at 10% = 932.50 tax
33600-9325 = 24275 taxed at 15% = 3641.25 tax
932.50 + 24275 = 4573.75 total tax

Trump's plan
44000-12000 = 32000 taxable income
32000 taxed at 12% = 3840 total tax

As far as I know $3840 < $4573.75

It's a disgrace that this article is being passed around to all the media outlets without some one at least checking the math. I don't believe everything I read, and I always check my math especially when it comes to money.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2016/10/25/irs-announces-2017-tax-rates-standard-deductions-exemption-amounts-and-more/#db6e78570175

Im sure youre right and everyone else is wrong.

Democrats wont run on the GOP raising tax on low and middle-class Americans in 2018 and 2020. People wont do their taxes and see an increase.

Boy did they fuck up.

[rmt]

Im sure youre right and everyone else is wrong.

Democrats wont run on the GOP raising tax on low and middle-class Americans in 2018 and 2020. People wont do their taxes and see an increase.

Boy did they fuck up.

Why don't you show where my math is wrong? Please show your numbers on where the average/median US wage earner is going to have a tax increase. That article is WRONG on so many levels from its math to it implying than an increase in a DEDUCTION is a bad thing for the tax payer? Yes, in this case, the media is wrong and you people continue to believe it without checking the math and PERPERTUATE the falsehood by passing around articles like this. FYI, this plan goes into effect for 2018 so, no, people will not have done their taxes under this plan when they vote in 2018.

[rmt]

:lol 38.9%

You really believe the crap you're fed or do you just repeat it?

The U.S. Has Highest Corporate Tax Rate Among Major Economies

This year, the U.S. has the highest top statutory corporate tax rate among nations in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (a group of advanced economies). The U.S. rate is at 38.9 percent, which reflects the top U.S. federal rate, combined with average state and local taxes. Here’s how that stacks up to other nations’.

0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
38.9%
34.4%
34.0%
30.2%
30.0%
30.0%
30.0%
29.5%
29.0%
28.0%
27.8%
27.1%
26.7%
25.0%
25.0%
25.0%
25.0%
24.2%
24.0%
24.0%
22.0%
22.0%
21.1%
21.0%
20.0%
20.0%
20.0%
20.0%
19.0%
19.0%
19.0%
19.0%
15.0%
12.5%
9.0%
United StatesFranceBelgiumGermanyAustraliaMexicoJapanPort ugalGreeceNew ZealandItalyLuxembourgCanadaAustriaChileNetherland sSpainKoreaIsraelNorwayDenmarkSwedenSwitzerlandSlo vak RepublicEstoniaFinlandIcelandTurkeyCzech RepublicPolandSloveniaUnited KingdomLatviaIrelandHungary
Source: OECD
Credit: Danielle Kurtzleben/NPR

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/07/541797699/fact-check-does-the-u-s-have-the-highest-corporate-tax-rate-in-the-world

Sorry, can't get it to format properly but you can look at the table in the article - it clearly has US at the top with 38.9% and Ireland at second to the bottom at 12.5%.

And that's really rich coming from you about me believing the crap I'm fed after YOU posted that Forbes article loaded with falsehoods which I debunked.

[boutons_deux]

with all the loopholes, deductions, scams, avoidances, evasions, the EFFECTIVE US corporate tax rate is 11%

And US corporate tax contribution as percentage of total USA tax revenue is the SMALLEST among all industrial nations.

[rmt]

with all the loopholes, deductions, scams, avoidances, evasions, the EFFECTIVE US corporate tax rate is 11%

And US corporate tax contribution as percentage of total USA tax revenue is the SMALLEST among all industrial nations.

I guess, that's why those 700 companies went through the trouble and expense of moving to Ireland - if every one of them can take advantage of all those loopholes, deductions, scams, avoidances, evasions every year. Stupid, aren't they?

[boutons_deux]

I guess, that's why those 700 companies went through the trouble and expense of moving to Ireland - if every one of them can take advantage of all those loopholes, deductions, scams, avoidances, evasions every year. Stupid, aren't they?

nope, offshoring/evading profits is hardly the only way the oligarchy has rigged the US tax code to evade taxes.

btw, those untaxed $2Ts of BigCorp profits supposedly overseas are offshore only on paper. They are actually in the US and playing in the US Wall St casino.

[Pavlov]

The U.S. Has Highest Corporate Tax Rate Among Major Economies

This year, the U.S. has the highest top statutory corporate tax rate among nations in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (a group of advanced economies). The U.S. rate is at 38.9 percent, which reflects the top U.S. federal rate, combined with average state and local taxes. Here’s how that stacks up to other nations’.

0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
38.9%
34.4%
34.0%
30.2%
30.0%
30.0%
30.0%
29.5%
29.0%
28.0%
27.8%
27.1%
26.7%
25.0%
25.0%
25.0%
25.0%
24.2%
24.0%
24.0%
22.0%
22.0%
21.1%
21.0%
20.0%
20.0%
20.0%
20.0%
19.0%
19.0%
19.0%
19.0%
15.0%
12.5%
9.0%
United StatesFranceBelgiumGermanyAustraliaMexicoJapanPort ugalGreeceNew ZealandItalyLuxembourgCanadaAustriaChileNetherland sSpainKoreaIsraelNorwayDenmarkSwedenSwitzerlandSlo vak RepublicEstoniaFinlandIcelandTurkeyCzech RepublicPolandSloveniaUnited KingdomLatviaIrelandHungary
Source: OECD
Credit: Danielle Kurtzleben/NPR

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/07/541797699/fact-check-does-the-u-s-have-the-highest-corporate-tax-rate-in-the-world

Sorry, can't get it to format properly but you can look at the table in the article - it clearly has US at the top with 38.9% and Ireland at second to the bottom at 12.5%.

And that's really rich coming from you about me believing the crap I'm fed after YOU posted that Forbes article loaded with falsehoods which I debunked. Your trying to claim companies actually pay that is completely disingenuous. You know they don't. It's right there in the article you posted. :lol

[rmt]

Your trying to claim companies actually pay that is completely disingenuous. You know they don't. It's right there in the article you posted. :lol

Do I some years claim losses on stocks, or HOPE/Lifetime Learning education credits, or children (when they earn too much to be claimed as beneficiary), or whatever I can find to reduce my taxes? Does that mean that I can claim each of those every year? Do you blame me for taking every legal deduction that I can?

The fact that so many companies are relocating abroad because of tax purposes should tell you something - they are not stupid and they are not going to all that trouble and expense because they are paying less taxes here in the US - regardless of whatever loopholes, scams and whatever else bou thinks they can take. If their rate truly was less than Ireland or Canada, they'd just stay here in good ole US of A.

[Pavlov]

Do I some years claim losses on stocks, or HOPE/Lifetime Learning education credits, or children (when they earn too much to be claimed as beneficiary), or whatever I can find to reduce my taxes? Does that mean that I can claim each of those every year? Do you blame me for taking every legal deduction that I can?

The fact that so many companies are relocating abroad because of tax purposes should tell you something - they are not stupid and they are not going to all that trouble and expense because they are paying less taxes here in the US - regardless of whatever loopholes, scams and whatever else bou thinks they can take. If their rate truly was less than Ireland or Canada, they'd just stay here in good ole US of A.You tried to get away with saying companies pay twice as much in the US than they actually do.

You are a completely disingenuous poster.

[Splits]

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-B7I1VVwhblU/WiMELNNjG5I/AAAAAAAA1oo/GXHa7mTJArsjSgwpGceNF1cOlGeIZRN0gCLcBGAs/s640/Screenshot%2B2017-12-02%2Bat%2B11.49.30%2BAM.png

[rmt]

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-B7I1VVwhblU/WiMELNNjG5I/AAAAAAAA1oo/GXHa7mTJArsjSgwpGceNF1cOlGeIZRN0gCLcBGAs/s640/Screenshot%2B2017-12-02%2Bat%2B11.49.30%2BAM.png

Splits, would you please post the link where you got this from?

[clambake]

it says cbo.

[Pavlov]

it says cbo.She'll come back with "CBO bad" and won't produce any competing projections.

[Chris]

Why don't you show where my math is wrong? Please show your numbers on where the average/median US wage earner is going to have a tax increase. That article is WRONG on so many levels from its math to it implying than an increase in a DEDUCTION is a bad thing for the tax payer? Yes, in this case, the media is wrong and you people continue to believe it without checking the math and PERPERTUATE the falsehood by passing around articles like this. FYI, this plan goes into effect for 2018 so, no, people will not have done their taxes under this plan when they vote in 2018.

Pavlov is a troll. You will get nothing of value from this person. You are in essence arguing with a brick wall.

[Chris]

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[Chris]

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[Chris]

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[Chris]

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[Chris]

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[AaronY]

couldn't a bot just copy and paste the stuff from R/TheDonald onto here Chris? then you could be freed up to do more advanced things like figure out how soon netflix will be out of business

[AaronY]

time management bud..time management

[Chris]

Junior

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[rmt]

it says cbo.

I've got a ton of housework to do, and I'm not using up my precious weekend time looking up something that he could easily post. And unlike others, I'm not going to comment without seeing what criteria they're using. What kind of title is "How much each family or taxpayer gains or loses" - imo, big difference between family and taxpayer - like how many kids, is it 2 adults or one wage earner w/kids?

[Reck]

couldn't a bot just copy and paste the stuff from R/TheDonald onto here @chris? then you could be freed up to do more advanced things like figure out how soon netflix will be out of business

[Spurminator]

You will get nothing of value from this person. You are in essence arguing with a brick wall.

This is an example of a pot calling a kettle a pot.

Also, the first pot is an idiot.

[Blake]

Pavlov is a troll. You will get nothing of value from this person. You are in essence arguing with a brick wall.

^ then proceeds to build a wall of worthless memes

[Chucho]

^ then proceeds to build a wall of worthless memes

To be fair, while totally random, that might be the best run of them he's had.

[Quadzilla99]

This is an example of a pot calling a kettle a pot.

Also, the first pot is an idiot.

Lmao

[boutons_deux]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/479869/story_image/clueless_trump.png?1512330418

[clambake]

I've got a ton of housework to do, and I'm not using up my precious weekend time looking up something that he could easily post. And unlike others, I'm not going to comment without seeing what criteria they're using. What kind of title is "How much each family or taxpayer gains or loses" - imo, big difference between family and taxpayer - like how many kids, is it 2 adults or one wage earner w/kids?

its right there at the bottom of the chart.

geez

[Blake]

I'd like to see Pavlov's explanation too. Here's a previous post of mine:

Let's use the average US median salary of $44148 rounded down to 44k for ease:

Current taxes for 2017 (single filer)
44000 - 10400 = 33600 taxable income
0-9325 taxed at 10% = 932.50 tax
33600-9325 = 24275 taxed at 15% = 3641.25 tax
932.50 + 24275 = 4573.75 total tax

Trump's plan
44000-12000 = 32000 taxable income
32000 taxed at 12% = 3840 total tax

As far as I know $3840 < $4573.75

It's a disgrace that this article is being passed around to all the media outlets without some one at least checking the math. I don't believe everything I read, and I always check my math especially when it comes to money.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2016/10/25/irs-announces-2017-tax-rates-standard-deductions-exemption-amounts-and-more/#db6e78570175


700 US companies now located in Ireland as direct investment soars

A major draw for US firms is Ireland’s low 12.5% corporation tax rate and numerous controversial tax breaks

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/05/ireland-attracts-soaring-level-of-us-investment

This article was back in Mar 2015 - so probably more than 700 companies by now. It's a multi-fold problem - the companies employ 130,000 (as of this article - probably more now) - plus the supporting businesses (you know, all those restaurants/commercial real estate/cleaners - other jobs for the middle class and poor). And when these companies move to Ireland, they pay corporate taxes (12.5%) to Ireland - not to the US (38.9%).


The U.S. Has Highest Corporate Tax Rate Among Major Economies

This year, the U.S. has the highest top statutory corporate tax rate among nations in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (a group of advanced economies). The U.S. rate is at 38.9 percent, which reflects the top U.S. federal rate, combined with average state and local taxes. Here’s how that stacks up to other nations’.

0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
38.9%
34.4%
34.0%
30.2%
30.0%
30.0%
30.0%
29.5%
29.0%
28.0%
27.8%
27.1%
26.7%
25.0%
25.0%
25.0%
25.0%
24.2%
24.0%
24.0%
22.0%
22.0%
21.1%
21.0%
20.0%
20.0%
20.0%
20.0%
19.0%
19.0%
19.0%
19.0%
15.0%
12.5%
9.0%
United StatesFranceBelgiumGermanyAustraliaMexicoJapanPort ugalGreeceNew ZealandItalyLuxembourgCanadaAustriaChileNetherland sSpainKoreaIsraelNorwayDenmarkSwedenSwitzerlandSlo vak RepublicEstoniaFinlandIcelandTurkeyCzech RepublicPolandSloveniaUnited KingdomLatviaIrelandHungary
Source: OECD
Credit: Danielle Kurtzleben/NPR

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/07/541797699/fact-check-does-the-u-s-have-the-highest-corporate-tax-rate-in-the-world

Sorry, can't get it to format properly but you can look at the table in the article - it clearly has US at the top with 38.9% and Ireland at second to the bottom at 12.5%.

And that's really rich coming from you about me believing the crap I'm fed after YOU posted that Forbes article loaded with falsehoods which I debunked.






I've got a ton of housework to do, and I'm not using up my precious weekend time looking up something that he could easily post.

Lol

[Brazil]

:lol speaking of fake... the idea of US being more taxed than other nations is quite hilarious... if you ever work for an international company in finance you know as everybody knows that US before this tax cut is, outside tax heavens, one of the most favourable for people and companies in terms of tax. Compare effective tax rate of US companies to any European companies :lol

A car in US costs like 30 % lower than in Europe same goes for gas, electronics, clothing etc... anything mostly because of tax burden. On a side note I'm all for a massive tax cut, gonna increase consumption of chinese and european products :lol

Short term it's gonna boost US economy, long term its probably gonna create inflation, interests rate increase... and eventually the bill will come. next US generation is pretty much fucked :lol

[Brazil]

:lol also I lived in US and I never paid so little tax in my entire life... at first I thought it was a joke... I also love the if you spend time outside US for business more than x% of your time you can deduct dat shit from your taxes... :lmao got to love some US tax system tbh

[rmt]

its right there at the bottom of the chart.

geez

Nope - the chart is NOT from CBO. That chart is PBS's interpretation (which I trust about as much as I did that Forbes article) of another CBO chart. Haven't had time to deeply delve into them.

The CBO report, which came out Sunday, was unusual because it does not just look at the Senate bill’s impact on people’s taxes. It also analyzes spending cuts the GOP tax plan would trigger, and how those cuts would affect the rich and poor. (more CBO's estimates - guesses, I call them)

As you will see, our analysis of the new data shows the Senate Republicans’ bill would move resources away from lower-income Americans and toward upper and upper-middle class Americans.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/how-the-senate-tax-bill-affects-rich-and-poor-in-three-charts

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/costestimate/reconciliationrecommendationssfc.pdf (I assume PBS is basing their chart on CBO's totally different chart page 10).

[Chris]

Nigel Farage 1 hr ·
‪Trump has got his travel ban and tax reform through in a matter of days.
Spare a thought for the liberal left at what must be a very difficult time for them.

Prayers for the Left :tu

[Pavlov]

Prayers for the Left :tuWhat does Steve Bannen say?

[boutons_deux]

GOP donors wanted to buy out Trump after ‘Access Hollywood’ — but were told price was $800 million

Top Republican donors sought to buy out Donald Trump from the presidential campaign after the “Access Hollywood” tape — but the cost proved to be too high.

According to an Atlantic profile (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/01/gods-plan-for-mike-pence/546569/) of Vice President Mike Pence, a small group of GOP billionaires asked a Trump associate how much money the former reality TV star would require to walk away from the campaign.

The associate told them Trump would need at least $800 million to end his campaign, according to a person with knowledge of the talks.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/gop-donors-wanted-to-buy-out-trump-after-access-hollywood-but-were-told-price-was-800-million/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Mike Pence’s wife finds Trump ‘reprehensible’ and ‘totally vile’: ex-campaign aide

Karen Pence, the wife of Vice President Mike Pence, found herself completely horrified when she watched Donald Trump’s infamous “Access Hollywood” tape in which he bragged about grabbing women’s genitals.

In fact, according to a profile of Vice President Pence written by The Atlantic’s McKay Coppins (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/01/gods-plan-for-mike-pence/546569/),

Karen Pence wanted to see her husband take over the Republican Party’s nomination for the presidency in the wake of the “Access Hollywood” tape, and

it wasn’t just due to political opportunism.

“She finds him reprehensible—just totally vile,” one ex-campaign aide told Coppins.

Coppins reveals that the Republican Party was working on ways to make Pence its nominee shortly after the “Access Hollywood” tape came out, and

had even started batting around the idea of drafting former Bush Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice to be his running mate.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/mike-pences-wife-finds-trump-reprehensible-and-totally-vile-ex-campaign-aide/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Secret Service Employs Five Body Doubles For Donald Trump As Death Threats Mount
Agency says political decoys are needed to guarantee the safety of the president in a variety of dangerous situations

https://extranewsfeed.com/with-threats-mounting-against-trump-secret-service-employs-five-body-doubles-72b17b07427d

[da_suns_fan]

Why don't you show where my math is wrong? Please show your numbers on where the average/median US wage earner is going to have a tax increase. That article is WRONG on so many levels from its math to it implying than an increase in a DEDUCTION is a bad thing for the tax payer? Yes, in this case, the media is wrong and you people continue to believe it without checking the math and PERPERTUATE the falsehood by passing around articles like this. FYI, this plan goes into effect for 2018 so, no, people will not have done their taxes under this plan when they vote in 2018.

The Congressional budget office is not "the media". They are career statisticians whose job it is to figure this stuff out. Now, MAYBE their math is wrong and you are right, but I'm not going to vote for repubs pushing a trillion dollar deficit hike so people like myself can maybe get a tax cut whereas the Paris Hiltons of the world are guaranteed to see a huge windfall.

[rmt]

The Congressional budget office is not "the media". They are career statisticians whose job it is to figure this stuff out. Now, MAYBE their math is wrong and you are right, but I'm not going to vote for repubs pushing a trillion dollar deficit hike so people like myself can maybe get a tax cut whereas the Paris Hiltons of the world are guaranteed to see a huge windfall.

My response (post #5762) refers to your comment (post #5761) about a Forbes article that Pavlov posted:


I'd like to see Pavlov's explanation too. Here's a previous post of mine:

Let's use the average US median salary of $44148 rounded down to 44k for ease:

Current taxes for 2017 (single filer)
44000 - 10400 = 33600 taxable income
0-9325 taxed at 10% = 932.50 tax
33600-9325 = 24275 taxed at 15% = 3641.25 tax
932.50 + 24275 = 4573.75 total tax

Trump's plan
44000-12000 = 32000 taxable income
32000 taxed at 12% = 3840 total tax

As far as I know $3840 < $4573.75

It's a disgrace that this article is being passed around to all the media outlets without some one at least checking the math. I don't believe everything I read, and I always check my math especially when it comes to money.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2016/10/25/irs-announces-2017-tax-rates-standard-deductions-exemption-amounts-and-more/#db6e78570175


The one from PBS with CBO listed as the source comes later from Splits (post #5770).

[rmt]

If the median US single filer wants to believe above false article and pay over 19% more tax under our current plan, so be it. And if you want to believe the CBO (which was off [22 million instead of actual 10.4 million] by a magnitude of 111% in Obamacare exchange enrollment estimate), go ahead.

[Splits]

938207603661864961

inb4 :cry Obama's economy :cry

[AaronY]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQUWEEjXkAATzvE?format=jpg

[da_suns_fan]

My response (post #5762) refers to your comment (post #5761) about a Forbes article that Pavlov posted:




The one from PBS with CBO listed as the source comes later from Splits (post #5770).

Am I missing where with the tax deductions are being factored in? Especially SALT deduction that goes away. If youre in a high property tax state, you are getting screwed.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/30/us/politics/tax-cuts-increases-for-your-income.html

[da_suns_fan]

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/11/JCT-winners-losers-2019.png&w=1484

[boutons_deux]

Hundreds Of Carrier Factory Jobs To Move To Mexico

https://www.npr.org/2017/06/26/534365565/hundreds-of-carrier-factory-jobs-to-move-to-mexico

All y'all Trash assholes been CONNED, OVER AND OVER AND OVER ...

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/24883643_1881819995178812_1465929302122155045_o.jp g?oh=fce846939443d8f493985358eddae1c0&oe=5A981410

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24775003_1399523826841110_9036112722868426499_n.jp g?oh=4b275f23309ffe1c5da702b12ce4fdfc&oe=5AC8FC99

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24301333_1028864293920947_6415395712789287338_n.pn g?oh=96b2bbbe037ee8f00252448b386791aa&oe=5A8A71CC

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24301101_1471723716198012_2842618599953563343_n.jp g?oh=79e3e2e1f5436b9b1d863401fb9b55ba&oe=5A8D7AFE

[Chris]

Obama thanks himself in speech in which he takes credit for economic growth under Trump


Former President Barack Obama thanked himself in a speech Tuesday in which he took credit for American economic growth occurring under Republican President Donald Trump.

Obama told an adoring crowd at a Chicago climate summit that despite “resistance at every step of the way,” his administration’s efforts to fight climate change resulted in a better economy.

“As we took these actions, we saw the U.S. economy grow consistently,” Obama said. “We saw the longest streak of job creation in American history by far — a streak that still continues, by the way.”

He then added a zinger: “Thanks Obama.”

The crowd erupted in cheers and applause — and soon laughter.

As Obama silently waited for the reaction to die down, he appeared to wink at the audience.

What about the economy?
The stock market has gained about 30 percent in value since Trump’s election a year ago, the Washington Times reported, gross domestic product has increased more than 3 percent in both of the last two quarters and the jobless rate has dropped to a 17-year low of 4.1 percent.

Trump has received credit for an economic uptick this year from many business leaders and economists due to his loosening of regulations and move to cut taxes, the paper added.

U.S. Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Illinois) said earlier this year that Obama’s administration was the first to never have a “whole year of 3 percent growth” — a claim PolitiFact rated as “mostly true.”

Here’s the clip of Obama’s speech. The relevant portion begins just after the 4-minute mark:

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[benefactor]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/24883643_1881819995178812_1465929302122155045_o.jp g?oh=fce846939443d8f493985358eddae1c0&oe=5A981410
Christmas is about greed, giving so you can be seen giving and fake news tbh

[Chris]

Christmas is about greed, giving so you can be seen giving and fake news tbh

That is certainly one perspective.

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24796812_1400134060113420_9000254843054975918_n.jp g?oh=e6636c667de5474229946b4c67af52ba&oe=5A8C428D

[rmt]

Am I missing where with the tax deductions are being factored in? Especially SALT deduction that goes away. If youre in a high property tax state, you are getting screwed.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/30/us/politics/tax-cuts-increases-for-your-income.html

The federal government is not responsible for high state taxes - that is the fault of the politicians that the people who live in that state vote in. Why should someone who makes $x in CA pay less FEDERAL income tax than a person who makes the same amount in FL? That deduction in effect results in people in high tax states giving that money to their state instead of the federal government (which encourages the state to raise taxes even more). So many of you are into this "paying their fair share" - well, now, all those in CA, NY, etc. will be paying their fair share of federal income tax like the rest of us - if you don't like it, take it up with your state and local politicians.

[Chris]

CHARGE!!!

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24852088_1472399776130406_6870997338306691064_n.jp g?oh=b8931480ff032489134b8afe8f855282&oe=5A8CBF61

[boutons_deux]

The federal government is not responsible for high state taxes

ALL states will be hit with the SALT exemptions. And SALT is just not income tax.

Note how mortgage and other interest are not being touched, because those debts are sources of $100Bs of revenue for BigFinance, BigFinance is untouchable. To the contrary, BigFinance is being unleashed to start up predations and other fleecing of citizens.

note that SALT deduction is claimed in many red states, too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_income_tax#States_with_flat_rate_individual_ income_tax

[Chris]

tee hee





ICE Arrests Illegal Alien Who Complained to Media About Girlfriend’s Deportation

https://www.dangerous.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Baltazar-Gutierrez-ICE.jpg


In an ironic twist of fate, an illegal alien who took to the press to complain about his girlfriend’s deportation is now facing deportation himself.

At least they’ll be reunited.

Baltazar “Rosas” Alberto Gutierrez, a 35-year-old Mexican national, was arrested by federal immigration officers after he spoke to reporters about the circumstances surrounding his girlfriend’s deportation, which he called “suspicious.”

The illegal immigrant told the Seattle Times on Sunday that U.S. Immigration and Custom Enforcement officers arrested him last week. Gutierrez, who is a clam harvester, alleges that the feds specifically mentioned two interviews he gave about his girlfriend.

Gutierrez says he did not reveal his real name when speaking to the press, preferring to go by his nickname, “Rosas,” instead. He believes he was targeted in retaliation for the interviews.

“You are Rosas,” said the agent, according to Gutierrez. “You are the one from the newspaper.”

“My supervisor asked me to come find you because of what appeared in the newspaper,” the agent said in English, according to Gutierrez, who related the interview in Spanish. According to the paper, Gutierrez does not speak English fluently.

Following the encounter, the agent arrested Gutierrez and placed him in detention, where he now awaits deportation back to Mexico.

In a statement to Seattle Times, ICE spokeswoman Lori Haley says that the agency does not have vendettas. “We don’t retaliate,” she said, when initially asked about Gutierrez’s arrest.

“ICE conducts targeted immigration enforcement in compliance with federal law and agency policy, and at times, exercises prosecutorial discretion when the circumstances of a particular case have extenuating factors like the care of minor children or an alien’s medical condition,” said the agency in a written statement later.

Gutierrez originally brought his story to the press after his girlfriend, Gladys Diaz, was arrested in June. He says ICE agents arrested her after they responded to her Craigslist ad for a piñata she made.

The story garnered significant attention in the Pacific Northwest after Gutierrez relayed his version of the events to the Chinook Observer and the Seattle Times.

Gutierrez’s detention follows in the wake of the acquittal of Kate Steinle’s killer in a San Francisco court on November 30.

https://www.dangerous.com/37866/ice-arrests-illegal-alien-complained-media-girlfriends-deportation/

[rmt]

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/11/JCT-winners-losers-2019.png&w=1484

This chart is like common sense - what's it's supposed to say/mean? Do you understand what a progressive tax is? That people in higher brackets pay the same amount of their first dollars? Or proportion - that a flat dollar ($100-$500 or > $500) increase/decrease is a much smaller percent as one's income gets larger? So yes, as one has a higher income, the percentage of those people getting tax cut > $500 will increase? The only line that is perplexing is the $1mil and over but it probably is because most high earners live in high tax states (SALT).

And the most senseless column is the middle one - Tax Change Less than $100 - Change could be tax increase or decrease. Of course, < $100 is going to affect more people in the lower brackets more than in the higher.

The important thing is that a high percentage of the middle class (defined by Pew Research as $42k to $125k) is getting > $500 tax cut.

[Blake]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/24883643_1881819995178812_1465929302122155045_o.jp g?oh=fce846939443d8f493985358eddae1c0&oe=5A981410

Liar

[Blake]

CHARGE!!!

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24852088_1472399776130406_6870997338306691064_n.jp g?oh=b8931480ff032489134b8afe8f855282&oe=5A8CBF61

Lol Christian

Chris is so gullible

[Chris]

Trump's approval rating jumps to 45 percent, highest since September

http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/1060x600-baa0af00aa4fab09c87ebed908db81db.jpg


President Trump's approval rating increased to 45 percent in the first week of December, the highest mark he's received since September, according to a Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.

The majority of voters, 51 percent, did not approve of Trump's job in office. But his approval rating in the Dec. 1-3 survey is the highest since a Sept. 29-Oct. 1 poll in which he was also at 45 percent. He has not been higher than 45 percent since early July. He then dipped in August in the wake of his reaction to violence in Charlottesville, Va.

Three-in-five voters saw Trump as reckless and 54 percent said he is sexist. Another 47 percent of respondents said he is racist, but 39 percent said he is not.

Forty-six percent viewed the billionaire businessman as knowledgeable, and 44 percent disagreed.

The online survey was conducted with 1,997 registered voters nationwide and had a 2 percentage point margin of error.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-approval-rating-jumps-to-45-percent-highest-since-september/article/2642685

[Chris]

tee hee



https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24862476_1400307146762778_1126245403495721082_n.pn g?oh=001183747994749843f74c9de9b12512&oe=5A96052F

[Quadzilla99]

Trump's approval rating jumps to 45 percent, highest since September

http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/1060x600-baa0af00aa4fab09c87ebed908db81db.jpg

45%

[dabom]

People still believe in trickle down economics? :lol

[spurraider21]

CHARGE!!!

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24852088_1472399776130406_6870997338306691064_n.jp g?oh=b8931480ff032489134b8afe8f855282&oe=5A8CBF61
:lol yeah he’s such a Christian

[Chucho]

tee hee





ICE Arrests Illegal Alien Who Complained to Media About Girlfriend’s Deportation

https://www.dangerous.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Baltazar-Gutierrez-ICE.jpg

Awesome.

[Blake]

tee hee



https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24862476_1400307146762778_1126245403495721082_n.pn g?oh=001183747994749843f74c9de9b12512&oe=5A96052F

Throw a paper towel roll

[Blake]

Trump's approval rating jumps to 45 percent, highest since September

http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/1060x600-baa0af00aa4fab09c87ebed908db81db.jpg

3 in 5 see him as reckless.

Chris sees him as his lord and master

[boutons_deux]

45%

Still in the 30s

[Chucho]

Still in the 30s

You lie.

[boutons_deux]

Ford makes room for new self-driving vehicle, moving EV production to Mexico



Ford says it intends to shift future production of an electric vehicle from Michigan to Mexico.
The move is part of a plan to free up production space at the automaker's plant in Flat Rock, Michigan to build an autonomous-drive vehicle.
While campaigning for the presidency in 2016, Donald Trump repeatedly bashed Ford for its plan to open a small car assembly plant in Mexico. The automaker ultimately canceled that plan.


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/06/ford-makes-room-for-new-self-driving-vehicle-moving-ev-production-to-mexico.html

so Trash will put a 35% tariff on Ford EVs imported from MX? :lol

[spurraider21]

trigger warning


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjZHDcKCA-I

[benefactor]

:lol

[da_suns_fan]

This chart is like common sense - what's it's supposed to say/mean? Do you understand what a progressive tax is? That people in higher brackets pay the same amount of their first dollars? Or proportion - that a flat dollar ($100-$500 or > $500) increase/decrease is a much smaller percent as one's income gets larger? So yes, as one has a higher income, the percentage of those people getting tax cut > $500 will increase? The only line that is perplexing is the $1mil and over but it probably is because most high earners live in high tax states (SALT).

And the most senseless column is the middle one - Tax Change Less than $100 - Change could be tax increase or decrease. Of course, < $100 is going to affect more people in the lower brackets more than in the higher.

The important thing is that a high percentage of the middle class (defined by Pew Research as $42k to $125k) is getting > $500 tax cut.

You are trying to sell a tax plan where less than half will see a tax cut of at least $500 bucks. As you said, the more you make the more likely you are to hit that mark.

On the flip-side middle America has a 10-15% chance of getting a tax hike. The working poor get little or nothing.

The rich will take their tax break and invest in stock market. It adds 1.5 trillion to the deficit.

So, wheres the plus side? How is this better?

[da_suns_fan]

Trump's approval rating jumps to 45 percent, highest since September

http://cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz/cache/1060x600-baa0af00aa4fab09c87ebed908db81db.jpg


His approval is actually the worst its been since mid-August during the Charlottesville disaster:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

[boutons_deux]

Trash's so-called verbiage is a definite indicator of physical brain defects.

I'd love to see an fMRI of his shit-for-brains.

[Pavlov]

Trash's so-called verbiage is a definite indicator of physical brain defects.

I'd love to see an fMRI of his shit-for-brains.Just needs a new coat of Fixodent.

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24852164_1882061495154662_1623815621092739837_n.jp g?oh=fb23b035600eb1d357d7dc1375585d5c&oe=5A91ED97

[Pavlov]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24852164_1882061495154662_1623815621092739837_n.jp g?oh=fb23b035600eb1d357d7dc1375585d5c&oe=5A91ED97Chis facebook triggered

[Chris]

Nancy Pelosi Gets ROASTED For Lying In Tweet About Concealed Carry Bill


Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was heavily criticized on Wednesday for blatantly lying about the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 that was passed in the House of Representatives with 231 votes in favor and 198 votes against.

Pelosi’s tweet claimed that the bill invited violent criminals, domestic abusers, and convicted stalkers to "carry concealed weapons" which "doesn’t save lives."

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Her claims are not remotely true; those three groups of people are not only banned from buying guns, but they are banned from even possessing them. That the Democrat leader would tweet something so demonstrably false can mean only one of two things: either she is deliberately trying to mislead the public or she is actually this ignorant of existing gun laws in the United States.

According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the Gun Control Act (GCA) codified at 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), makes it illegal for the following persons to ship, transport, receive, or possess firearms or ammunition:

convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; (Felony)
who is a fugitive from justice;
who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act, codified at 21 U.S.C. § 802);
who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution;
who is an illegal alien;
who has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;
who has renounced his or her United States citizenship;
who is subject to a court order restraining the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of the intimate partner
who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.
Pelosi has so far issued no correction. Pelosi's egregiously false claims have been called out in a flood of tweets, some in comedic fashion:

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[Blake]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24852164_1882061495154662_1623815621092739837_n.jp g?oh=fb23b035600eb1d357d7dc1375585d5c&oe=5A91ED97

Why'd you post this

[Blake]

Nancy Pelosi Gets ROASTED For Lying In Tweet About Concealed Carry Bill

Funny we don't see any whining from these guys when Trump blatantly lies.

[rmt]

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/11/JCT-winners-losers-2019.png&w=1484

Would you please post the link to this table?

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24312733_10160263576600725_4243138709111065541_n.j pg?oh=0afc03f199ff8f8e5a12d37148da41e4&oe=5A97AF22

[Blake]

Trump busy making new problems

[Chris]

2U-WMyf-b_E

[monosylab1k]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24312733_10160263576600725_4243138709111065541_n.j pg?oh=0afc03f199ff8f8e5a12d37148da41e4&oe=5A97AF22

:tu nice!

[boutons_deux]

Trash and his kakistocracy are creating problems, not solutions

[Splits]

Chris arrested

937531918488289281

[boutons_deux]

Sarah Huckabee Sanders Just Invented A New Excuse For Why Trump Won’t Release His Taxes

NBC‘s Hallie Jackson picked up on this issue and posed the following question,

"You said, on Tuesday, that as long as [President Trump’s] taxes are under audit, he’s not going to release them; his 2016 taxes–to our knowledge–are not under audit–unless they are.”

To which Sanders replied:

The president’s taxes, no matter who the president is, actually immediately go under audit after being filed. :lol


Sanders’ full excuse, therefore, is that President Trump

still can’t release his taxes because they’re presently subject to an automatic audit.

Except that’s not really the case.

While it is true that presidential tax returns are automatically audited by the Internal Revenue Service (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article117755838.html) (“IRS”) since the time of President Richard Nixon,

nothing about the automatic audit actually prevents presidential tax returns from being released.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/sarah-huckabee-sanders-just-invented-a-new-excuse-for-why-trump-wont-release-his-taxes/

Trash's financial crimes are in his taxes, going back decades, is why he's hiding them.

[boutons_deux]

Donald and Melania Trump Mess Up Their Pearl Harbor Messages

The president misquoted Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s address to a Joint Congressional Session after the deadly attack on Pearl Harbor, tweeting

“National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day—‘A day that will live in infamy!’ December 7, 1941.”

Roosevelt actually, and quite famously, said that Dec. 7 would be “a date which will live in infamy.”

Melania got the month of the deadly attacks wrong in her tweet, writing,

“Today we honor Pearl Harbor Heroes. 11/7/1941.

Thank you to all military for your courage and sacrifice!”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-and-melania-trump-mess-up-their-pearl-harbor-messages

[TDMVPDPOY]

has this clown done anything beneficial for country/people ever since being president?

I have yet to hear anything his done worth mentioning

[boutons_deux]

has this clown done anything beneficial for country/people ever since being president?

I have yet to hear anything his done worth mentioning

Milo Down Under: Free Speech and Violence in Australia (https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/07/milo-down-under-free-speech-and-violence-in-australia/)

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/07/milo-down-under-free-speech-and-violence-in-australia/

[da_suns_fan]

Would you please post the link to this table?

https://www.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/JCT-distribution-of-tax-returns-D-17-54.pdf

[Spurminator]

939200909426544642

[boutons_deux]

...

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24775131_1401434146650078_6684638209280019482_n.pn g?oh=2d2dd21cbe503ee36b6d5dea3959e3bd&oe=5A8F9A8F

[rmt]

https://www.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/JCT-distribution-of-tax-returns-D-17-54.pdf

Thanks. From first glance:

The income concept used to place tax returns into income categories is adjusted gross income (AGI) plus: [1] tax-exempt interest,
[2] employer contributions for health plans and life insurance, [3] employer share of FICA tax, [4] worker's compensation,
[5] nontaxable Social Security benefits, [6] insurance value of Medicare benefits, [7] alternative minimum tax preference items,
[8] individual share of business taxes, and [9] excluded income of U.S. citizens living abroad. Categories are measured at 2017 levels.

Does anyone here count what your employer contributes for health and life insurance, FICA tax and insurance value of Medicare benefits as INCOME? I certainly don't. That means those incomes are INFLATED - and all those percentages should be bumped to lower income levels.

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24862107_1030321783775198_5563628571568848673_n.jp g?oh=a32cb55ece853d237b61da15d5fae294&oe=5A957117

[Spurminator]

939210582401732608

[Chris]

Go get em Jeff!



Planned Parenthood under investigation by Justice Department over sale of fetal tissue


The Justice Department has launched a federal investigation into Planned Parenthood’s practices and the sale of fetal tissue.

In a letter first obtained by Fox News, Justice Department Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs Stephen Boyd formally requested unredacted documents from the Senate Judiciary Committee, the same panel that led the congressional probe into the women’s health organization.

“The Department of Justice appreciates the offer of assistance in obtaining these materials, and would like to request the Committee provide unredacted copies of records contained in the report, in order to further the Department’s ability to conduct a thorough and comprehensive assessment of that report based on the full range of information available,” Boyd wrote.

Fox News has learned that last month, the FBI first requested the unredacted documents from the committee.

Fox News is told that Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Ranking Member Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said they needed to receive a letter and be assured that the documents would be used for investigative purposes.

The letter, sent to Grassley and Feinstein on Thursday, is a rare confirmation by the Justice Department of a federal investigation.

“At this point, the records are intended for investigative use only—we understand that a resolution from the Senate may be required if the Department were to use any of the unredacted materials in a formal legal proceeding, such as a grand jury,” Boyd also wrote.

A spokesman for the committee told Fox News on Friday that they received the Department's "official request for unredacted copies of its 2016 report and we will work to cooperate fully."

In that final report entitled “Human Fetal Tissue Research: Context and Controversy” published in December 2016, Grassley referred Planned Parenthood and other providers to the FBI for investigation.

Grassley said at the time that the committee has discovered enough evidence that shows how abortion providers had transferred fetal tissue and body parts from aborted fetuses for research by charging amounts higher than they actually cost.

“The report documents the failure of the Department of Justice, across multiple administrations, to enforce the law that bans the buying and selling of human fetal tissue,” Grassley wrote last December urging the Justice Department and FBI to investigate. “It also documents substantial evidence suggesting that the specific entities involved in the recent controversy, and/or individuals employed by those entities, may have violated that law.”

Tucker and the executive vice president and chief brand officer of Planned Parenthood debate the GOP's health care plan's intent to cut funding over abortion services and its potential impact on the organization and women nationwide #TuckerVideo
Planned Parenthood EVP: No one will bully, bribe us

Feinstein, however, said in a statement Friday that the 2016 report was only presented to the "majority," meaning the Republicans on the committee.

"I hope that there isn't a partisan purpose in taking this action and that the department handles the chairman's request in a professional and ethical manner," Feinstein said in a statement.

The now-federal investigation comes after a 2015 undercover investigation by activists David Daleiden, leader of the pro-life Center for Medical Progress, and Sandra Merritt, an employee of the group, who both posed as fetal researchers and made undercover videos of themselves trying to buy fetal tissue from Planned Parenthood.

The recorded conversations included officials from Planned Parenthood and StemExpress, a California company that provides blood, tissue and other biological material for medical research and has received fetal tissue from Planned Parenthood.

Planned Parenthood, at the time, strongly rejected accusations it violated any law or acted unethically. The group also “strongly” disagreed with Grassley’s recommendations to refer the matter to the Justice Department “especially in light of the fact that the investigations by three other Congressional committees, and investigations in 13 states including a Grand Jury in Texas, have all shown that Planned Parenthood did nothing wrong.”

“Over two years ago, citizen journalists at The Center for Medical Progress first caught Planned Parenthood’s top abortion doctors in a series of undercover videos callously and flippantly negotiating the sale of tiny baby hearts, lungs, livers, and brains,” Daleiden said Thursday. “It is time for public officials to finally hold Planned Parenthood and their criminal abortion enterprise accountable under the law.”

The federal investigation by the Trump administration will reopen the years-long debate on whether Planned Parenthood and other providers violated the law with the illegal sale of body parts.

Fox News’ Perry Chiaramonte contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/07/planned-parenthood-under-investigation-by-justice-department-over-sale-fetal-tissue.html

[Chris]

Alec Baldwin Goes From 'SNL' to Impeach Trump Campaign, Reveals How He Wants to Oust President


Many in Hollywood don't like President Donald Trump. But Alec Baldwin remains one of his most outspoken critics.

While he already mocks the president on “Saturday Night Live,” he wants to do a lot more than that.

Baldwin thinks that the Russia probe is going to be Trump's complete undoing. In fact, he believes it so strongly that he ditched the costume so he could campaign for Trump's impeachment.

In a video that's going viral, Baldwin said:

"Donald Trump is in big trouble, and he knows it. Last week, one of his former top staff, Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about working with Russia on behalf of the Trump team.

He's the first Trump official to be charged with a crime in the investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government during the 2016 presidential election."

“Trump has always been worried about Flynn getting into trouble for his communications with Russia,” Baldwin continued.

Baldwin then brings up the idea that Trump could be hiding something. “What is Trump so scared of us knowing? And why was Flynn lying to the FBI in the first place?” Baldwin asked. He wasn't done, though.

“As the investigation gets closer to Trump and his family, he may try again to interfere and obstruct justice.”

“We can't let this happen,” Baldwin said, as he asked for people who agree with him to contact their representatives.

“We need you to call your member of Congress today and ask them to go on record stating if Trump interferes with Mueller's investigation they would vote to impeach Trump,” he explained.


tee hee

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24852366_1402514903208669_8004069174077155035_n.jp g?oh=da6de46fb8a8e3682152b4203dd88f90&oe=5ACFBB87

[Chris]

Trump Jobs Numbers Out: Unemployment at 17 year Low, 2.2 Million New Jobs Since Election, More Americans Working than Ever!


President Trump’s Economy is Simply “On Fire”.

Job numbers released today through the end of November show an increase of 2.2 million jobs since last years election and an unemployment rate of 4.1 percent. After the same period under Obama, (4.8) million jobs were lost and unemployment skyrocketed to 9.9 percent!

President Trump’s economic results could arguably be the best all time. The stock market is the highest ever and jobs are being created by the thousands.

Jobs

According to data released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, President Trump added a projected 1.9 million jobs in the first eleven months of the year (January through November 2017) and 2.2 million jobs since last year’s election.

The same cannot be said for President Obama’s first eleven months as he lost 4.8 million jobs. Obama was so bad at creating jobs that by the end of his second term he said that jobs were not coming back. This showed in his first eleven months in office because in every month the US lost jobs.



According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, under President Trump more Americans are in the work force than ever before. Over 160 million Americans are working for the first time in US history. President Trump is working hard to bring good paying jobs back to the US and his efforts are showing historic results. ADP reported 40,000 new manufacturing jobs in November. This was the highest reported monthly amount of new manufacturing jobs in the history of their report!

938534509506650113

Unemployment

Also according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the US unemployment rate this year has been below January’s rate every month (January through September 2017.) The unemployment rate in January 2017 was 4.8 percent and by November it was down to 4.1 percent. These are the lowest rates in 17 years.

President Obama on the other hand again moved in the opposite direction. In his first eleven months as President the US unemployment rate increased every month from 7.8 percent in January 2009 to 9.9 percent by November of 2009.



The mainstream liberal media won’t report this, but when looking at the economy and jobs, the billionaire President Trump is providing a tutorial for any former community organizer that might hope to be President some day.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/president-trumps-jobs-numbers-out-today-unemployment-at-17-year-low-2-million-new-jobs-more-americans-working-than-ever-before/

#MAGA

[tlongII]

He’s doing great.

[DMX7]

Chris arrested

937531918488289281

Posting from his prison cell. He just won't go away.

[Blake]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24775131_1401434146650078_6684638209280019482_n.pn g?oh=2d2dd21cbe503ee36b6d5dea3959e3bd&oe=5A8F9A8F

that's evangelicals that do that.

You don't even know what you're posting.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s support among whites dropping

The Republican billionaire’s job approval rating

among white voters has plummeted to 41 percent from 49 percent

in February, according to the latest Pew Research Center poll results released Thursday. (http://www.people-press.org/2017/12/07/stark-partisan-divisions-over-russia-probe-including-its-importance-to-the-nation/)

Those figures are a far cry from the 58 percent of the total white vote Trump claimed on Election Day last year (https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/groups-voted-2016/).

Pew blamed Trump’s decline on a number of factors, most notably approval among Republicans.

He held a commanding 84 percent approval rating among Republicans 10 months ago, but that figure has since dropped to 76 percent. :lol STILL! :lol

The president has spent much of his first year in office catering to his base, but the large dip in GOP support could be a sign he’s losing control of his own party.

Trump also lost approval among older voters—47 percent of people age 50 and older supported the president in February,

compared to 38 percent now—and

among white evangelical Protestants, 61 percent of whom now support the president, down from 78 percent.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trumps-support-among-whites-dropping/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[rmt]

Trump’s support among whites dropping

The Republican billionaire’s job approval rating

among white voters has plummeted to 41 percent from 49 percent

in February, according to the latest Pew Research Center poll results released Thursday. (http://www.people-press.org/2017/12/07/stark-partisan-divisions-over-russia-probe-including-its-importance-to-the-nation/)

Those figures are a far cry from the 58 percent of the total white vote Trump claimed on Election Day last year (https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/groups-voted-2016/).

Pew blamed Trump’s decline on a number of factors, most notably approval among Republicans.

He held a commanding 84 percent approval rating among Republicans 10 months ago, but that figure has since dropped to 76 percent. :lol STILL! :lol

The president has spent much of his first year in office catering to his base, but the large dip in GOP support could be a sign he’s losing control of his own party.

Trump also lost approval among older voters—47 percent of people age 50 and older supported the president in February,

compared to 38 percent now—and

among white evangelical Protestants, 61 percent of whom now support the president, down from 78 percent.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trumps-support-among-whites-dropping/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29




Why are you worried about old, white evangelicals, bou? If his approval rating rose to 45% and his approval among white evangelical is down, that must mean that his approval is up somewhere else - hopefully among the independents. Evangelicals aren't going anywhere - just mention the Supreme Court come next election and he has their vote.

[boutons_deux]

Trump boasts of ‘packed to the rafters’ Florida rally after online photos show mostly empty arena


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Empty-arena-pensacola.jpg

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trump-boasts-of-packed-to-the-rafters-florida-rally-after-online-photos-show-mostly-empty-arena/

:lol We have Great Expectation for Trash, he will ALWAYS LIE

[Spurminator]

If his approval rating rose to 45% and his approval among white evangelical is down, that must mean that his approval is up somewhere else - hopefully among the independents.

Sure, if those numbers came from the same poll. They didn't.

This poll has his total approval rating at 32%.

[rmt]

Sure, if those numbers came from the same poll. They didn't.

This poll has his total approval rating at 32%.

And we're supposed to believe a poll in which there are 47.3% more Dems/leans Dems than Reps/leans Reps?

Total sample 1503
Republican/Leans Republican 522
Democrat/Leans Democrat 769

[Spurminator]

And we're supposed to believe a poll in which there are 47.3% more Dems/leans Dems than Reps/leans Reps?

Total sample 1503
Republican/Leans Republican 522
Democrat/Leans Democrat 769

You mistakenly explained the results of one poll using results of a different poll. I corrected you. I'm not interested in entertaining your poll bias theories. I know which poll results you will choose to agree with and which ones you won't before you even comment on them.

[rmt]

These articles/studies that are being passed around (like this one and the one from Joint Tax Committee? that uses employer contribution for FICA, health and life insurance and medicare benefits as INCOME) are terrible. And you people continue to believe them without checking the conditions under which the chart/research/poll is based.

[rmt]

You mistakenly explained the results of one poll using results of a different poll. I corrected you. I'm not interested in entertaining your poll bias theories. I know which poll results you will choose to agree with and which ones you won't before you even comment on them.

I take total responsibility for using the results from another poll - I apologize and thank you for pointing it out.

You might not be interested in entertaining my poll bias theories, but I think the other people on this board should be shown the breakdown of this poll.

[rmt]

I'm guilty too - the moral of the story is to check. My error was responding to bou without reading carefully but I can't read everything bou posts - too much. (edit: and mixing results from different polls)

[rmt]

And to compare the Morning Consult/Politico poll:


Morning Consult/Politico poll

45% approval
Total Registered Voters: 1997
Dem 671 (34%)
Independent 646 (32%)
Rep 681 (34%)

Seems like a more realistic spread than this Pew Research one:

Pew Research

32% approval
Total: 1503
Dem/lean Dem 769 (51.1%)
Rep/lean Rep 522 (34.7%)

[Splits]

You mistakenly explained the results of one poll using results of a different poll. I corrected you. I'm not interested in entertaining your poll bias theories. I know which poll results you will choose to agree with and which ones you won't before you even comment on them.

Destroyed.

And now she's fucking triggered.

[rmt]

Destroyed.

Not really - because my last post indicates that the 45% approval is probably more accurate than the 32% approval. However, I do acknowledge (again!) that I should not have mixed poll results. I feel like this has become a one-upmanship - instead of a nice back and forth with bou on a early Saturday morning.

[Splits]

Not really - because my last post indicates that the 45% approval is probably more accurate than the 32% approval. However, I do acknowledge (again!) that I should not have mixed poll results. I feel like this has become a one-upmanship - instead of a nice back and forth with bou on a early Saturday morning.

No. The electorate is not split equal D/R right now. Look at the generic congressional ballot polls on aggregate since May and you will find a consistent 6-10 plus fucking D. Take your bullshit somewhere else, nobody here likes you.

[rmt]

No. The electorate is not split equal D/R right now. Look at the generic congressional ballot polls on aggregate since May and you will find a consistent 6-10 plus fucking D. Take your bullshit somewhere else, nobody here likes you.

Is that your aim, Splits? To chase me off this board? You don't want to hear other opinions. You can put me on ignore.

[Splits]

Is that your aim, Splits? To chase me off this board? You don't want to hear other opinions. You can put me on ignore.

delusion <> opinion

And I can't put you on ignore. You've set the floor of the intellectual bar here, for which others like Chris and koriwhat try to reach daily.

[rmt]

delusion <> opinion

And I can't put you on ignore. You've set the floor of the intellectual bar here, for which others like Chris and koriwhat try to reach daily.

Then you should want me here - more to argue with, refute and mock. Else you'd have nothing to do but parrot each other, and the board would be so boring.

[boutons_deux]

Trash leads a life of trash

Trump’s daily routine consists of hours of TV and a dozen diet sodas: report

A new report highlights Trump’s daily routine of “self-preservation” and searching the headlines for his name

the president's daily routines, which largely consist of hours of television. Trump typically consumes four hours each day, starting as early as 5:30 a.m., but will watch up to as many as eight on some. A habit he has previously denied (https://www.salon.com/2017/01/24/donald-trump-is-addicted-to-the-media-and-its-worrying-his-aides/).

He will also drink a dozen diet sodas per day, with each of them delivered with the push of a button.

"For most of the year, people inside and outside Washington have been convinced that there is a strategy behind Mr. Trump's actions," the Times reported. "But there is seldom a plan apart from pre-emption, self-defense, obsession and impulse."

"He feels like there’s an effort to undermine his election and that collusion allegations are unfounded,"

"He believes passionately that the liberal left and the media are out to destroy him. The way he got here is fighting back and counterpunching."

Trump makes several phone calls to Kelly each day, sometimes as many as a dozen, the Times reported.

The calls are typically about his schedule, or if he's seeking advice on policy.

The president yearns for approval from Kelly, and while White House aides denied that he seeks Kelly's blessing, they said Trump "views him as a crucial confidant and sounding board.

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/09/trumps-daily-routine-consists-of-hours-of-tv-and-a-dozen-diet-sodas-report/

Thanks, Repugs!

[boutons_deux]

New York Times Columnist: Trump Speaking at Civil Rights Museum ‘Makes Me Want to Puke!’
Charles M. Blow (https://twitter.com/CharlesMBlow)
(https://twitter.com/CharlesMBlow)✔@CharlesMBlow (https://twitter.com/CharlesMBlow)


Trump speaking at this Civil Rights museum makes me want to puke!
11:09 AM - Dec 9, 2017 (https://twitter.com/CharlesMBlow/status/939542510493470720)

Trash talking about the civil rights heroes is a FUCK_ALL_Y'LL knitters insult, and Bannon and his handler know exactly what they are doing.

[rmt]

Trump boasts of ‘packed to the rafters’ Florida rally after online photos show mostly empty arena


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Empty-arena-pensacola.jpg

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trump-boasts-of-packed-to-the-rafters-florida-rally-after-online-photos-show-mostly-empty-arena/

:lol We have Great Expectation for Trash, he will ALWAYS LIE





Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
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daveWeigel @WashingtonPost put out a phony photo of an empty arena hours before I arrived @ the venue, w/ thousands of people outside, on their way in. Real photos now shown as I spoke. Packed house, many people unable to get in. Demand apology & retraction from FAKE NEWS WaPo!


2:01 PM - 9 Dec 2017

Sure thing: I apologize. I deleted the photo after @dmartosko told me I'd gotten it wrong. Was confused by the image of you walking in the bottom right corner.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/939616810684514304

[Spurminator]

It's amazing how Trump and his fans are so quick to gloat about someone admitting a mistake, while at the same time ignoring Trump's countless objectively incorrect and dishonest claims that he has never retracted.

[boutons_deux]

Trash leads a life of trash

Trump’s daily routine consists of hours of TV and a dozen diet sodas: report

Repugs!

"Diet soda has been linked to a wide variety of ailments, including

weight gain (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/07/18/diet-drinks-are-associated-with-weight-gain-new-research-suggests/?utm_term=.be4cc7232142) ( and weight loss (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1002/oby.20737/)),

dementia (http://www.newsweek.com/diet-soft-drinks-triple-risk-dementia-study-587454),

kidney disease (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3022238/) and

stroke

Artificial sweeteners, like the ones used in diet sodas instead of sugar, have also been linked with changes in people's metabolisms and the communities of bacteria living in their guts, "

White House spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters (http://time.com/5054764/donald-trump-health-records-physical/) on Thursday that President Trump will have a physical next year at Walter Reed Medical Center, and the results will be released afterward. :lol IBIWISI

Incidentally, Trump, himself, once called Coca Cola products " garbage (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/258262904091058176)" in a 2012 tweet

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/what-are-those-12-diet-cokes-doing-to-donald-trumps-health/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Trash's health report from Walter Reed? I bet Trash thinks Dr Walter Reed is gonna do the checkup! :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trumpian Apartheid (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/10/1723112/-Trumpian-Apartheid)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/483012/story_image/DQeNn0hVAAAM8V4_1_.jpg?1512953157

https://images.dailykos.com/images/483013/large/small_1_?1512953288

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBcXpxSUkAAGw7Z.jpg

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/10/1723112/-Trumpian-Apartheid

[boutons_deux]

I study liars. I've never seen one like Donald Trump.

At The Washington Post, the Fact Checker feature has been tracking every false and misleading claim and flip-flop made by Trump this year.

I categorized the most recent 400 lies that The Post had documented through mid-November

In Trump's first 298 days in office, however, he made 1,628 false or misleading claims or flip-flops, by The Post's tally. That's about six per day, far higher than the average rate in our studies. And of course, reporters have access to only a subset of Trump's false statements — the ones he makes publicly — so unless he never stretches the truth in private, his actual rate of lying is almost certainly higher.

That rate has been accelerating. Starting in early October, The Post's tracking showed that Trump told a remarkable nine lies a day, outpacing even the biggest liars in our research.

But the flood of deceit isn't the most surprising finding about Trump.

My colleagues and I found it easy to code each of our participants' lies into just one category. This was not the case for Trump. Close to a quarter of his false statements (24 percent) served several purposes simultaneously.

Nearly two-thirds of Trump's lies (65 percent) were self-serving.

Slightly less than 10 percent of Trump's lies were kind ones, told to advantage, flatter or protect someone else.

Trump told 6.6 times as many self-serving lies as kind ones. That's a much higher ratio than we found for our study participants, who told about double the number of self-centered lies compared with kind ones.

The most stunning way Trump's lies differed from our participants', though, was in their cruelty.

An astonishing 50 percent of Trump's lies were hurtful or disparaging.

The Trump lies that could not be coded into just one category were typically told both to belittle others and enhance himself.

The sheer frequency of Trump's lies appears to be having an effect, and it may not be the one he is going for.

A Politico/Morning Consult poll from late October showed that only 35 percent of voters believed that Trump was honest, :lol while

51 percent said he was not honest.

By telling so many lies, and so many that are mean-spirited, Trump is violating some of the most fundamental norms of human social interaction and human decency.

Many of the rest of us, in turn, have abandoned a norm of our own — we no longer give Trump the benefit of the doubt that we usually give so readily.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-liar-20171208-story.html#testnws=politicsnow&track=_newsletter_politics-now___________20171212 (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-liar-20171208-story.html#testnws=politicsnow&track=_newsletter_politics-now___________20171212)

Similarly, I read an article about Trash's history of business deals. He played not only to win, he play also to penalize, hurt, destroy the other side.

The cruel, sadistic, lying, corrupt prick is the so-called Christians' choice for President.

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/25188862_1033095660164477_5251474956046225928_o.pn g?oh=ef6644628bdf13d303b2b992cd80d5b4&oe=5ABAB49F

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24993158_301828963669840_2050536263942967860_n.jpg ?oh=fd5cbf44be5d85acabae80e2ea9b1295&oe=5ABBAEEF

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25289478_1404475139679312_3278573621483965160_n.jp g?oh=5dd260bb7f0845e710026d0c1b3a559d&oe=5A8AA2A4

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24993523_857980574364814_3298689806328546396_n.jpg ?oh=358f2411228af0dbedba59f64078aca8&oe=5AC26F66

[Blake]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24993523_857980574364814_3298689806328546396_n.jpg ?oh=358f2411228af0dbedba59f64078aca8&oe=5AC26F66

Lol doesn't understand what a scandal is

[Blake]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25289478_1404475139679312_3278573621483965160_n.jp g?oh=5dd260bb7f0845e710026d0c1b3a559d&oe=5A8AA2A4

Chris loves Trump more than Jesus

And neither care about Chris

[boutons_deux]

Comments on the Trash-whisperer

Republican mocks Steve Bannon: ‘looks like some disheveled drunk who wandered onto the national stage’

“This guy does not belong on the national stage,” King said. “He looks like some drunk that wandered on to the national stage.

I consider myself a conservative Republican.

I consider myself an Irish Catholic, and he parades himself out there with his weird alt-right views.

And to me it’s demeaning the whole government and political process.

This summer I called on the president to fire him from the White House.

And I think, last night, in Alabama — it wasn’t just

a political statement it was a revulsion by people at his style, at his type of divisive views.”
King went on to denounce Bannon’s positions on foreign policy and encouragement toward racial divisions.

“Last night’s election was a revulsion by the American people,” King concluded.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/republican-mocks-steve-bannon-looks-like-some-disheveled-drunk-who-wandered-onto-the-national-stage/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

NOW extreme right wing Catholic King (Iowa King asshole is also a Catholic) comes out against Bannon,

only AFTER Bannon got his balls kicked, but why not BEFORE Bannon lost?

[boutons_deux]

Someone Hacked Anderson Cooper's Twitter Account And Called Trump A 'Pathetic Loser'

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/J5.V.b6dRfTzHla3IxuF0g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/the_huffington_post_584/a29a985b792ade8b51ae594fc67aafd8

Cooper’s Twitter account has more than 9.8 million followers, and the reply immediately went viral.

It garnered more than 16,000 likes and more than 2,700 retweets. :lol

The post remained live for about an hour before it was taken down.

CNN later confirmed that “someone gained access” to Cooper’s account, and said the network was “working with Twitter” to secure the handle.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/someone-hacked-anderson-cooper-apos-134659258.html

... or, maybe Coop was just drunk.

[spurraider21]

sounds like brett talley wont be confirmed.

of all the shitty, unqualified appointments, that was one of the worst (devos is still by far the worst)

[koriwhat]

Someone Hacked Anderson Cooper's Twitter Account And Called Trump A 'Pathetic Loser'

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/J5.V.b6dRfTzHla3IxuF0g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/the_huffington_post_584/a29a985b792ade8b51ae594fc67aafd8

Cooper’s Twitter account has more than 9.8 million followers, and the reply immediately went viral.

It garnered more than 16,000 likes and more than 2,700 retweets. :lol

The post remained live for about an hour before it was taken down.

CNN later confirmed that “someone gained access” to Cooper’s account, and said the network was “working with Twitter” to secure the handle.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/someone-hacked-anderson-cooper-apos-134659258.html

... or, maybe Coop was just drunk.

he took a break from deep throating all them dicks to make that tweet.

[boutons_deux]

sounds like brett talley wont be confirmed.

of all the shitty, unqualified appointments, that was one of the worst (devos is still by far the worst)

when even Iowa Grassley objects, the nominee(s) have to be bad, and they are.

[clambake]

he took a break from deep throating all them dicks to make that tweet.

ding

[vy65]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24775131_1401434146650078_6684638209280019482_n.pn g?oh=2d2dd21cbe503ee36b6d5dea3959e3bd&oe=5A8F9A8F


that's evangelicals that do that.

You don't even know what you're posting.

Radio preacher Rick Wiles, likewise, said Houston is underwater because it “boasted of its LGBT devotion.” And Ann Coulter — bless her — suggested it might have something to do with the city’s former mayor being a lesbian. “I don’t believe Hurricane Harvey is God’s punishment for Houston electing a lesbian mayor,” she tweeted. “But that is more credible than ‘climate change.’ ”

[Chris]

Do You Trust Snopes? You Won’t After Reading This.


The big players in the GMO and agrochemical industry – Monsanto, Bayer, Dow, Syngenta, DuPont – are engaging in an extensive public relations, advertising, lobbying and political campaigning to make sure that genetically engineered crops (GMOs), and the chemical pesticides they require, continue to proliferate in the U.S.

To improve their public image, they are attempting to manipulate everything we see and hear about GMO crops and pesticides in the media and on TV, the internet and print articles – using propaganda-laden commercials, “mommy-blogger” articles, farmer endorsements, hired operatives to change Wikipedia, and front group websites. The biotech industry is feeling threatened, and their profits hang in the balance. They are trying to silence the truth!

We now have evidence that the website Snopes.com is being manipulated by the industry too. But first, let’s examine what Snopes really is…
A lot of people trust the website Snopes.com and use it to fact-check things they hear on the internet. For no reason whatsoever, this mom-and-pop website has been put on a pedestal as if they are the be-all and end-all of truth on the internet.

Facebook recently teamed up with Snopes, allowing them become an arbitrator of fake news circulating on their network, essentially elevating them as an authoritative source of information. I find this development alarming on many levels:

While there is some fake news on the internet, this opens up the possibility that op-ed’s and independent journalism will get labeled as “fake news” if Snopes doesn’t agree with an opinion.
Articles can be deemed “false” if Snopes conducts sloppy fact checking. When it comes to the topic of food, it is imperative that everyone understands that this field is rampant with corrupt paid-off scientists and front groups that are working to protect profits of corporations at the expense of our health. You can not always trust information coming from self-proclaimed independent experts, and sources must be vetted extensively.
We all have the ability to use critical thinking skills while reading news on Facebook or any other online platform – and should determine for ourselves what is false and what is the truth – instead of relying on the work of websites like Snopes to do that for us.
Everyone should feel empowered to seek out the truth on their own. Especially when it comes to our health, we need to be our own advocates and investigate the food that we are eating.
This is treading too close to the line of censorship and can stifle our freedoms to express our ideas.
Is Snopes a credible and authoritative source of information?
Snopes is now 50% owned by an ad agency (Proper Media) and they make money by generating millions of views on the 3rd-party advertisements on their website. It simply makes sense for them to seek out articles that are viral to “debunk”, so that they can piggy-back on that traffic and generate more advertising revenue.
Snopes was founded by a husband and wife team who are now in the middle of a contentious divorce in which founder David Mikkelsen has been accused of embezzling $98,000 of company money to spend on “himself and prostitutes”.
Snopes now has a hired team of suspect fact checkers who collaborate to debunk falsehoods that are trending on the internet.
These fact checkers reportedly have no editorial oversight and do not follow standard journalistic procedures such as interviewing the authors of articles they are trying to debunk to get all sides of the story.
Snopes doesn’t have a formal screening process for hiring fact checkers and for evaluating applicants for any potential conflicts of interest. Without such standards, it is very easy for them to be infiltrated by those who work with the industry and who have a hidden agenda.
The recent series of events below demonstrates how Snopes has been influenced by Monsanto into manipulating the public opinion about the dangers of their bestselling product, Roundup weedkiller (aka glyphosate).

Monsanto has made BILLIONS off of the weedkiller Roundup (aka glyphosate) along with their Roundup-Ready GMO seeds, but sales have been plummeting since the truth about this toxic product is coming out. They are doing everything they can to keep those profits coming in!

Food Democracy Now! and The Detox Project conducted a report showing how this popular weedkiller is present in many popular American foods and when my blog post went viral (Millions of views!), Snopes came out with an article claiming that it was a “MIXTURE” of truth and fiction.

https://foodbabe.com/app/uploads/2016/11/snopes-1.jpg

Snopes suddenly changed their assessment to FALSE about 24 hours later:

https://foodbabe.com/app/uploads/2016/11/snopes-false.jpg

Did the facts really change? Why would they call this information FALSE?

When you compare both versions of Snopes’ article, you see that they edited it to suit a narrative that fits Monsanto’s agenda – it’s outrageous!
It’s as if Monsanto edited it themselves and sent it off to Snopes for publication. Entire sentences and paragraphs were removed that were hurtful to Monsanto. Important data was removed entirely. The wording was changed to make the findings of an independent FDA-registered laboratory seem less scientific or credible…

https://foodbabe.com/app/uploads/2016/11/snopes-comparison-1-1.jpg

The data about how Cheerios and Stacy’s Pita Chips were found to have MORE glyphosate than the level permitted by the U.S. government in drinking water (700 ppb) was completely removed! Apparently Snopes believes it’s not factual or important to mention that some foods were found to have more weedkiller in them than even our lax regulations allow…

https://foodbabe.com/app/uploads/2016/11/snopes-comparison-8.jpg
https://foodbabe.com/app/uploads/2016/11/Snopes-comparison-6-1.jpg

In this first revision, Snopes makes a huge mistake in stating that the World Health Organization’s International Agency For Research on Cancer’s (IARC) finding that glyphosate is probably carcinogenic to humans was “overturned in March 2016”, which is NOT TRUE…

https://foodbabe.com/app/uploads/2016/11/snopes-comparison-3.jpg

IARC’s 2015 assessment has NOT been overturned, this is just what Monsanto dreams would happen. In reality, the team of international independent cancer scientists at IARC who made the finding that glyphosate “probably causes cancer in humans” are defending their decision, while being attacked by Monsanto with their lobbying group attempting to cut off IARC’s funding. The 17 independent scientists at IARC came to an unanimous decision that isn’t muddled by industry ties, and Monsanto is trying to shut them up.

The subsequent 2016 Joint FAO-WHO Meeting on Pesticide Residues (JMPR) is not reliable as the scientists on the panel have a giant conflict of interest in working with ILSI Europe, a group funded by Monsanto, CropLife, and big food companies, along with a board of trustees comprised of industry execs from Monsanto, Syngenta, DuPont, Nestle and others. Snopes is WRONG to say their finding is the “current consensus amongst the world’s regulatory agencies”. That’s the industry-funded view!

A large body of peer reviewed research links glyphosate to cancer, reproductive problems, liver, kidney and skin cell damage, antibiotic-resistance, and more – but Monsanto doesn’t want the world to know the truth. The industry has a long history of of concealing health risks about their products from the public.

“Historically, the same thing happened with tobacco, the same thing happened with asbestos, the same thing happened with arsenic. It’s not junk science.” ~ Aaron Blair, PhD, MPH, internationally renowned epidemiologist and the author of more than 450 scientific papers, who spent thirty years at the National Cancer Institute. Dr. Blair led the IARC panel.

After Snopes realized their mistake, they revised this section of their article YET AGAIN for a second time…
Which just goes to show they don’t properly research the facts before publishing stories!

https://foodbabe.com/app/uploads/2016/12/snopes-revision-2.jpg

Snopes completely removed their inquiry into the possibility that Monsanto has influence over the FDA and commentary about the potential harm of glyphosate to humans…

https://foodbabe.com/app/uploads/2016/11/monsanto-comparison-9.jpg

Monsanto has a long and sordid history of infiltrating the government and our regulatory agencies such as the FDA and EPA.
The FDA has been caught having closed-door meetings with industry representatives several times in the past. There is evidence that Monsanto met with the FDA specifically to discuss glyphosate residues in food in 2016:

“In April of this year, Monsanto’s international regulatory affairs manager Amelia Jackson-Gheissari emailed FDA asking to set up a time to talk about “enforcement of residue levels in the USA, particularly glyphosate.” ~ Huffington Post, September 2016

https://foodbabe.com/app/uploads/2016/12/Monsanto-FDA.jpg

lots more here...https://foodbabe.com/2017/02/24/do-you-trust-snopes-you-wont-after-reading-how-they-work-with-monsanto-operatives/

[Blake]

sounds like brett talley wont be confirmed.

of all the shitty, unqualified appointments, that was one of the worst (devos is still by far the worst)

Pretty nice sized list tbh

[Blake]

Conspiracy Chris is on the case

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25152012_1540685339312397_7514826044816010763_n.jp g?oh=7d47a0f3998065308780464e92edd680&oe=5AD13EFA

[Blake]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25152012_1540685339312397_7514826044816010763_n.jp g?oh=7d47a0f3998065308780464e92edd680&oe=5AD13EFA

:cry poor Trump

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24993129_1406114986181994_8602005601979252062_n.jp g?oh=1f9a758311b5b8313609b65bd3be3bb9&oe=5ABF7819

[dabom]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25152012_1540685339312397_7514826044816010763_n.jp g?oh=7d47a0f3998065308780464e92edd680&oe=5AD13EFA

You actually have to do some good stuff to get good media coverage.

[dabom]

Should be labeled: Fox coverage and everyone else coverage.

[spurraider21]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24993129_1406114986181994_8602005601979252062_n.jp g?oh=1f9a758311b5b8313609b65bd3be3bb9&oe=5ABF7819
illegal immigrants gave him cardiac arrest

[spurraider21]

lol foodbabe.com
lol big bad monsanto
lol chris just discovered that lobbying exists

[Blake]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24993129_1406114986181994_8602005601979252062_n.jp g?oh=1f9a758311b5b8313609b65bd3be3bb9&oe=5ABF7819

What are you getting at here? Come out and say it.

[spurraider21]

What are you getting at here? Come out and say it.


illegal immigrants gave him cardiac arrest

[Chris]

Rahm Emanuel Declares Chicago A 'Trump-Free City'

Having solved all of Chicago's other problems, the mayor is banishing the president.


Chicago's mayor, Rahm Emanuel, has declared the city a "Trump-free zone," announcing on late night television that he intends to prevent the president from even stepping foot within the city's boundaries.

Speaking to Stephen Colbert on "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert," the mayor said that he's even given the city a new title. "Our motto: A city he'll never sleep in. We don't want him," Emanuel said.

"Look, Donald Trump is driving forward looking through the rearview mirror, and I'm not going that way because I want my city going that way and I want it to be a Trump-free zone," he continued.

The metaphor only makes sense if you believe Emanuel is driving backward while looking in the rear-view mirror — an image Emanuel probably did not want to present, but one that is, nonetheless, accurate.

Emanuel is currently presiding over a city that is losing population faster than any other urban area in the country. Chicago has sky-high taxes, but such poor management that it can't pay its debts. City services and schools are bankrupt. Chicago's debt burden is in the tens of billions of dollars. It's credit rating is nearing junk bond status, and, just a few short months ago, it looked as though Chicago might be the first major city to declare bankruptcy.

In 2017 alone, Chicago has had more than 600 homicides — so many, the head of the Chicago Police Union actually went to the White House to speak to President Trump's aides after Emanuel sloughed off the administration's offer of federal assistance.

Chicago's biggest worry is far from whether Donald Trump occasionally rents a couple of his own hotel rooms.

Yet Emanuel has routinely accused Donald Trump of attacking Chicago to distract from larger, national problems. That seems to be a bit of projection, as the city closes out another year of grim milestones.

Good luck with that Mr. Mayor.

[Pavlov]

Rahm Emanuel Declares Chicago A 'Trump-Free City'

Having solved all of Chicago's other problems, the mayor is banishing the president.



Good luck with that Mr. Mayor.Proof you guys have no sense of humor.

[Chris]

Proof you guys have no sense of humor.

Proof 'you guys' are nothing but trolls. SAD!

[Pavlov]

Proof 'you guys' are nothing but trolls. SAD!Dude made a joke on Colbert and you and the Daily Wire shit yourselves. SAD!

[Blake]

illegal immigrants gave him cardiac arrest

Or Evangelical God punished him

[Blake]

Proof 'you guys' are nothing but trolls. SAD!

You're nothing but a meme regurgitator with no original thoughts of your own, tbh.

[Chucho]

You're nothing but a meme regurgitator with no original thoughts of your own, tbh.

Repub djohn.

[boutons_deux]

‘They’re jumping off the cliff’: Prominent Republicans explain why ‘Trump is a symptom’ of the GOP’s demise

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Mickey-Edwards-and-Mona-Charen.jpg

“For one thing, you said Chris, the president is sort of leading them off the cliff. No, they’re jumping off the cliff.”

“And it was the Republican National Committee that went into Alabama and

inexplicably put money into the race to help elect somebody who has been credibly accused of child molestation,” Edwards noted.

“And even before that, had said that his personal religious beliefs trumped the Constitution.”

“So the party is doing it to itself and it’s more suicide,” Edwards explained. “Trump is not killing it, Trump is symptom. There’s a lot wrong in the party.”

“Well, it’s both,” Charen replied. “There are feedback mechanisms so that Trump is terrible and then he makes the existing problems worse.”

“But look, I can remember the days when you could take the Christian Coalition or the Moral Majority and know that they had legitimate points of view and

that they were really trying to stand up for character and integrity in public life,” Charen argued.

“And now they have covered themselves in disgrace.”

“To lose a seat in the reddest of red states in Alabama partly because of energized black turnout and

partly because Republicans did not show up.

They are discouraged and demoralized by that kind of a candidate, by that kind of politics,” Charen worried.

“And that should be sending chills down the spines of many Republicans in Congress.”

“It does not bode well for their fortunes in 2018 at all,” Charen concluded.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/theyre-jumping-off-the-cliff-prominent-republicans-explain-why-trump-is-a-symptom-of-the-gops-demise/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/theyre-jumping-off-the-cliff-prominent-republicans-explain-why-trump-is-a-symptom-of-the-gops-demise/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

"his personal religious beliefs trumped the Constitution.”

the oligarchy's $Bs to the out-of-control, lawless Repugs trumps the Constitution

[Pavlov]

Can't wait to see how our resident Trump apologists try to spin this:
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[boutons_deux]

Ouch! A polling firm asked voters for the first word that comes to mind when they hear 'Trump' (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/13/1724067/-Ouch-A-polling-firm-asked-voters-for-the-first-word-that-comes-to-mind-when-they-hear-Trump)

Here are the top responses: (https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us12122017_ukko63.pdf/)

#1 — IDIOT

#2— LIAR

#3— INCOMPETENT

Given more than one word, the responses were not much better for the deeply unpopular Trump:

In the same open-ended question, allowing for any answer,

35 voters say “leader,” with

35 voters saying “strong,”

26 voters saying “a**hole,”

21 voters saying “great,”

19 voters saying “moron,”

18 voters saying “arrogant” and

17 voters saying “disgusting,”

the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll finds.

Of the 48 words used by five or more voters, 30 words are negative.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/13/1724067/-Ouch-A-polling-firm-asked-voters-for-the-first-word-that-comes-to-mind-when-they-hear-Trump?detail=emaildkre

Just fucking totally, amazingly awesome!

[Chucho]

Can't wait to see how our resident Trump apologists try to spin this:
941051601917067264


That's terrible, tbh. It should be "Colored".

[clambake]

its not like they can spell.

[Pavlov]

Still takes awesome pictures!

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2869307.1478889744!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/article-kentucky-1111.jpg

[Blake]

Can't wait to see how our resident Trump apologists try to spin this:
941051601917067264

:cry he received an Ellis fuckin Island Award.

[Chris]

This is awesome :tu

Breaking news: U.S. Senate unanimously passes PACT Act to crack down on animal cruelty crimes


The U.S. Senate unanimously passed the Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture (PACT) Act, S. 654, this evening, getting us dramatically closer to the day when the nation has a federal anti-cruelty statute that allows the FBI and other federal law enforcement agencies to crack down on malicious cruelty and also the sexual exploitation of innocent creatures. The PACT Act was led by Sens. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., and Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., with 34 cosponsors. Action now shifts to the House, where an identical companion bill introduced by Reps. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, and Ted Deutch, D-Fla., has an eye-popping 262 cosponsors and broad bipartisan support, and is ready for final action.

As the first-ever general federal animal cruelty bill, the PACT Act builds on the federal animal crush video law enacted in 2010, which banned the creation, sale, and distribution of obscene videos that show animals being crushed, burned, drowned, suffocated, impaled, or subjected to other forms of heinous cruelty. The PACT Act will prohibit those same extreme acts of animal cruelty when they occur in interstate or foreign commerce, regardless of whether a video is produced, and those convicted of such abuse will face federal felony charges, fines, and up to seven years in prison.

This legislation is also endorsed by more than 200 law enforcement agencies across the country.

The PACT Act would enable the federal government to prosecute malicious acts of animal cruelty on federal property such as military bases, federal prisons, airports, and national parks. It would also enable federal authorities to crack down on the practice of bestiality, which like animal fighting and the “crush video” trade, involves a national subculture where animals are often moved across state lines and where information is exchanged on websites to enable this exploitation to happen.

Such websites are gathering places for people with deviant sexual behavior. One site with more than a million registered users, for example, hosts thousands of advertisements, categorized by state, from people seeking animals to sexually abuse. Craigslist is another online forum used to facilitate bestiality. During any one week, a state’s Craigslist page has dozens of ads from people soliciting or offering animals for sex, often to be transported across state lines. There are still five states that do not prohibit bestiality – Hawaii, Kentucky, New Mexico, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

Bestiality is also associated with child pornography and other sexual crimes against humans. During the course of child exploitation investigations, for example, detectives commonly find sexual predators in possession of bestiality materials. In fact, in a study of more than 44,000 adult males evaluated for sexual misconduct, researchers concluded that bestiality is the number one risk factor and the strongest predictor of increased risk of sexual abuse of a child. A study from the University of Tennessee determined that human sex offenders were eight times more likely than the general population to have a history of bestiality.

Sexual predators move their animal victims across state lines to abuse them and there is a predictive association of this behavior with human-to-human sexual abuse. We have federal laws to stop specific acts of cruelty, such as injuring Tennessee walking horses or staging animal fights, so it’s fitting to have a federal statute on core animal cruelty issues and bestiality.

The Senate has unanimously passed this important legislation tonight, and now it’s up to the House to do so, and send the bill on to President Trump for his signature. Almost two-thirds of lawmakers in the House have cosponsored the legislation. There is plenty of support – we just need House leaders to bring up the bill for a vote.

“This bipartisan measure finally prohibits a heinous, inhumane practice – stating emphatically once and for all that there is no place in a civilized society for the maiming and torturing of animals. Thanks to the long overdue action of the Senate, the barbaric individuals who commit these crimes will no longer walk free. I call on the House to pass this important legislation immediately,” Sen. Blumenthal said in a statement.

In 2014, South Dakota became the 50th state to adopt felony-level penalties for malicious cruelty. The nation is waking up to cruelty as an indicator of social pathology. First offenders typically start on animals, and then turn their violent instincts to people. Congress should act on this legislation now. There’s no excuse for a delay. As a society, we have an unspoken pact with vulnerable creatures to protect them from needless and malicious violence, and the PACT Act is part of any good plan to act on that principle.

blog.humanesociety.org/wayne/2017/12/senate-passes-pact-act-crack-down-animal-cruelty-crimes.html

[Quadzilla99]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25152012_1540685339312397_7514826044816010763_n.jp g?oh=7d47a0f3998065308780464e92edd680&oe=5AD13EFA

He's an awful president who's hated by most of the country tbh

[Spurminator]

Studies also show that the media's coverage of hurricanes skews negative.

[Chris]

'Hurricane' Trump - I like it :tu Its got that God's Wrath feel to it. Trump

[Quadzilla99]

Studies also show that the media's coverage of hurricanes skews negative.

Yes, msm has a well-known anti-hurricane bias

[Quadzilla99]

Jesus Christ.

941484131757838337

[spurraider21]

what in the actual fuck

[Quadzilla99]

what in the actual fuck

How does that happen?

[DMX7]

Jesus Christ.

941484131757838337

Trump has put people of this caliber throughout the federal government. It would be generous to call it the "B team". Trump said he was going to get the best of the best and he can hardly get anybody even qualified.

[AaronY]

what in the actual fuck
Those were easy questions?

[spurraider21]

Those were easy questions?
well randomly asking about the Daubert standard by name and without context is kinda douchey, though as a judge he should be well familiar with that.

everything else is something a 2nd year law student should know. the guy has never taken a deposition on his own, has never argued a motion before, and barely even knew what a motion in limine is. thats ridiculous tbh. ive been a lawyer for less than a month and ive already drafted motions in limine and i'm arguing a summary judgment motion tomorrow morning :lol

[AaronY]

well randomly asking about the Daubert standard by name and without context is kinda douchey, though as a judge he should be well familiar with that.

everything else is something a 2nd year law student should know. the guy has never taken a deposition on his own, has never argued a motion before, and barely even knew what a motion in limine is. thats ridiculous tbh. ive been a lawyer for less than a month and ive already drafted motions in limine and i'm arguing a summary judgment motion tomorrow morning :lol
Yeah, I'm seeing all kinds of law people shitting on him in my Twitter feed. Some of the Republicans I follow are even appalled :lol

[Pavlov]

THE BEST PEOPLE

[Trill Clinton]

Jesus Christ.

941484131757838337

woooooooooow

[boutons_deux]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/484301/story_image/Trump_nose.jpg?1513271816

Trump supporters demanded the NY Times to compare his lies to other presidents—they shouldn't have (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/14/1724302/-Trump-supporters-demanded-the-NY-Times-to-compare-his-lies-to-other-presidents-they-shouldn-t-have)

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2017/10/10/opinion-lies-2/02b29fa51326f7ed15e44664f3950975e926d121/ledechart-Artboard_6.png

We applied the same conservative standard to Obama and Trump, counting only demonstrably and substantially false statements.

The result: Trump is unlike any other modern president.

He seems virtually indifferent to reality,

often saying whatever helps him make the case he’s trying to make.

In his first 10 months in office, he has told 103 separate untruths, many of them repeatedly. Obama told 18 over his entire eight-year tenure.

That’s an average of about

two a year for Obama and about 124 a year for Trump.

As the Times points out, they are being generous (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/14/opinion/sunday/trump-lies-obama-who-is-worse.html) when it comes to their criteria of lying on the part of Trump.

If we had used a less strict standard, Trump would look even worse by comparison.

He makes misleading statements and mild exaggerations –

about economic statistics, his political opponents and many other subjects –

far more often than Obama.

We left out any statement that could be plausibly defended even if many people would disagree with the president's interpretation.

We also left out modest quantitative errors,

such as Trump's frequent imprecision with numbers.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1724302

So "defending" Trash as (ok, he's bad but) no worse than Obama, the Trash fellators fail yet again in basic cognition.

Their equivalence is FALSE

[boutons_deux]

British white supremacist leader Trump retweeted is arrested for hate crimes (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/14/1724379/-British-white-supremacist-leader-Trump-retweeted-arrested-for-hate-crimes)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/484374/story_image/GettyImages-892229730.jpg?1513281341

Paul Golding, 35, was arrested shortly after arriving at Belfast magistrates court.

He was accompanying his deputy, Jayda Fransen, 31, to her first appearance after being charged with “using threatening, abusive, insulting words or behaviour” at the same rally.

The Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) said:

“Detectives investigating speeches made at the Northern Ireland Against Terrorism rally on Sunday 6 August this year have arrested a 35-year-old man today, Thursday 14 December, in the Belfast area.

He has been taken to Musgrave PSNI station for interview.

There are no further details at this stage.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1724379

[Blake]

Jesus Christ.

941484131757838337

Fuck

[boutons_deux]

Fuck

You want a whole lotta real "fuck"?

There's a LOT more asshole, incompetent appointess APPROVED than not

Trump’s Biggest Win In 2017? His Judicial Confirmations.

The Senate confirmed a record number of his lifetime circuit court judges. Many are anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-judicial-nominations_us_5a32ddd9e4b0ff955ad14bad (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-judicial-nominations_us_5a32ddd9e4b0ff955ad14bad)

A big part of the oligarchy's base is the Christian Taliban whose Sharia will be imposed on non-Christians by these judges for the oligarchy's benefit.

[boutons_deux]

Trump will be 'banned' from this part of London

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBGMaQK.img?h=1080&w=1920&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=500&y=148

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-will-be-banned-from-this-part-of-london/ar-BBGMfSG?fullscreen=true#image=1

[boutons_deux]

Trump's Popularity Is Plummeting Among Fox News Viewers


A new poll finds his net favorability has dropped from 90 to 58 percent since June.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/trumps-popularity-plummeting-among-fox-news-viewers

[Chris]

https://cdn1.ijr.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/1400x-1-1024x781.jpg

[Chris]

oI_k_UMkk58

[boutons_deux]

52% Of Americans Say Country Worse Off Under Trump, According To AP Poll

Americans are painting a pessimistic view of the country and President Donald Trump as 2017 comes to a close.

than a quarter of Americans think Trump has made good on the pledges he made to voters. :lol a quarter think he has! :lol

Just three in 10 Americans said the U.S. is heading in the right direction, and

52 percent said the country is worse off since Trump became president.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/country-worse-off-under-trump-poll?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

Small Farmers Voted for Trump in 2016—Now They're Taking Him to Court

A new lawsuit aims to preserve an Obama-era protection from predatory tariffs.

Trump has staffed the USDA with the same incompetence (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/26/1701787/-Trump-Hurts-Farmers-with-Inexperienced-Campaign-Workers-At-USDA) that he’s staffed the rest of our government departments with. To add insult to injury, Trump’s administration made sure to do away with important Obama-era protections for small farmers. (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/22/turkey-farmers-trump-agriculture-rules-256169)

Obama-era rules that had yet to take effect would have given smaller farmers more power to set the terms of their deals with massive meat companies,

empowering the growers to sue and better define abusive practices by processors and distributors under federal law.

Trump’s Agriculture Department killed two of the proposed rules, one of which would have taken effect in October.
Major agribusinesses like Cargill and Butterball fought the rules, saying they would lead to endless litigation between farmers and global food companies.

Trump’s deregulatory strike — lauded by big business —

has consequences, even for the mom-and-pop turkey farmers who raise free-range, antibiotic-free turkeys that have seen increasing demand as Americans become more socially conscious about the production of their foods.


Now, as NPR reports (https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/12/14/570889309/the-usda-rolled-back-protections-for-small-farmers-now-theyre-suing), those small farmers are getting together and launching a lawsuit to protect themselves from extinction in the new Republican utopia.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/small-farmers-voted-trump-2016-now-theyre-taking-him-court

The only group that Trash's govt hasn't screwed is the oligarchy and the Christian Taliban.

[boutons_deux]

Trump thought it was ‘low class’ for Pence to bring pets to VP residence

An adviser to President Trump reportedly said Trump was “embarrassed” by the Pence family’s desire to bring their pets with them to Washington, D.C.

The adviser told The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/546569/) Trump told his secretary that he thought it was “low class” for the Pences to bring their pets to the Naval Observatory.

“He was embarrassed by it, he thought it was so low class,” the adviser said, according to the publication. “He thinks the Pences are yokels.”

Trump is the first president in 150 years to not have a pet in the White House, according to the New York Post (https://nypost.com/2017/01/15/trumps-friend-fell-in-love-with-dog-she-offered-for-white-house/).

Trump has reportedly mocked Pence throughout his presidency over the vice president's far-right views on abortion and LGBTQ rights.

The president once said that Pence “wants to hang” all gay people,

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/363381-trump-thought-it-was-low-class-for-pence-to-bring-pets-to-vp

[boutons_deux]

A Year Into the Trump Era, White House Staff Turnover Is “Off the Charts”

Staff departures have been a constant of Donald Trump’s first year in the White House.

Michael Flynn has put in a guilty plea.

Steve Bannon,

Reince Priebus, and

Anthony Scaramucci

were pushed out.

Sean Spicer is off working on a book.

Omarosa Manigault, the former contestant on “The Apprentice” whom Trump installed in the Office of Public Liaison, was reportedly fired, on Tuesday. In September,

Politico reported (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/22/trump-aides-staffers-departures-white-house-242990) that “a fast-growing number of White House staffers” were updating their résumés, making lunch dates with headhunters and prospective employers, and counting the days until 2018.

“There will be an exodus from this administration in January,” one Republican lobbyist told Politico.

It has already been confirmed that Dina Powell (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dina-powell-deputy-national-security-adviser-to-depart-trump-white-house/2017/12/08/85d8c9ea-dc31-11e7-a841-2066faf731ef_story.html?utm_term=.2e78bfb37694), the deputy national-security adviser, will leave the White House early next year, and that

Paul Winfree (https://www.axios.com/exclusive-policy-official-leaving-white-house-2516458672.html), the deputy director of the White House Domestic Policy Council and the director of budget policy, will head back to his old job at the Heritage Foundation after this week.

Gary Cohn, the director of the National Economic Council, has signalled that he will leave the Administration once the fate of the Republican tax bill is decided.

This degree of churn is “off the charts,” according to Kathryn Dunn Tenpas, a non-resident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, who has spent years tracking White House turnover rates. Next month, Tenpas will release her findings about Trump’s first year in office.

The data—some of which she shared with me this week—is striking: even if every one of Trump’s senior aides stays put until January 20th, the anniversary of his Inauguration,

his first-year turnover rate among senior staff—some sixty positions in total—will reach or exceed thirty-three per cent.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-year-into-the-trump-era-white-house-staff-turnover-is-off-the-charts?mbid=nl_Daily%20121617%20Nonsubs&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=12574794&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1301483956&spReportId=MTMwMTQ4Mzk1NgS2

Another proof that Trash is magnificently an ABnormal loser.

[koriwhat]

Trump will be 'banned' from this part of London

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBGMaQK.img?h=1080&w=1920&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=500&y=148

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-will-be-banned-from-this-part-of-london/ar-BBGMfSG?fullscreen=true#image=1

hope he is banned... wouldn't want to be blown up by all them low life losers from the ME plotting for the UK's demise. fuck em!

[koriwhat]

oI_k_UMkk58

:tu fuck cnn!

[Chris]

:tu fuck cnn!

:tu

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25354123_10155095682186770_1735665263661646718_n.j pg?oh=b2e9b0c5ee1eab797cac90e409ab1eb6&oe=5ACBF351

[DMC]

The Guy Fawkes mask thing is worn out already. We all know it's just some random douchebag telemarketer who doesn't want to be seen by his boss.

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25299200_1481821261854924_7540112591112518899_n.jp g?oh=9a6b3f624cd47eaf3ef32257aa3123b7&oe=5AD25EDE

[Pavlov]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25299200_1481821261854924_7540112591112518899_n.jp g?oh=9a6b3f624cd47eaf3ef32257aa3123b7&oe=5AD25EDERemember when the Trump legal team told you Mueller got the transition emails illegally?

lol

[Chris]

Remember when the Trump legal team told you Mueller got the transition emails illegally?

lol

They fucked up and I own it. I'm guilty of not investigating it further. Bring out the guillotine.

[Pavlov]

They fucked up and I own it. I'm guilty of not investigating it further. Bring out the guillotine.I'm sure you'll see the charge repeated next week when the news cycle starts up again. It doesn't matter if it's untrue.

[boutons_deux]

Trump: Protesters Who Were Beaten Up By My Supporters Violated My Rights First

President Donald Trump now claims, by way of his attorneys, that protesters at one of his 2016 campaign rallies violated his rights by protesting.

Those protesters were later allegedly battered by Trump supporters after Trump shrieked for their removal.

The protesters are currently suing Trump for incitement to riot (https://lawandcrime.com/legal-analysis/why-trump-should-be-found-guilty-of-incitement-to-riot/).
In legal filings made this week, Trump’s lawyers say he couldn’t have violated the protesters’ rights by calling for his supporters to assault and remove them from the venue–because those protesters violated Trump’s rights first. One motion reads, in relevant part:

In this case, Plaintiffs interfered with the Trump Campaign’s freedom to ‘choose the content of (its) own message.

Thus, by interjecting this anti-Trump speech in the middle of a pro-Trump rally, they were obviously transforming the message that Mr. Trump and the Campaign wished the event to convey.


The motion was filed as part of a dismissal request made Trump’s legal team in response to a lawsuit brought by multiple protesters who were violently removed from a Trump campaign rally in Louisville, Kentucky in March 2016. At that campaign rally, then-candidate

Trump screamed: “Get ’em out of here!”

A federal judge allowed the protesters’ lawsuit to proceed earlier this year after Trump’s stable of attorneys unsuccessfully argued their client was protected from liability by the First Amendment.

In his April order allowing the suit, Judge David Hale wrote

“It is plausible that Trump’s direction to ‘get ’em out of here’ advocated the use of force.

‘Get ’em out of here’ is stated in the imperative;

it was an order, an instruction, a command.”

Now, after their initial failure at reigning in the protesters’ claims,

Trump’s attorneys are trying an even more novel tactic:

arguing that two perceived wrongs can, in this case, make a right.

The motion defends Trump’s incendiary order-instruction-command as necessary. It reads:

Mr. Trump had every right to call for the removal of the disruptors. Any contrary rule would destroy the right of political campaigns to express their messages at rallies without being sabotaged by intruders.


This argument relies on no known legal doctrine.

https://lawandcrime.com/trump/trump-protesters-who-were-beaten-up-by-my-supporters-violated-my-rights-first/

"Rough 'em up" something a dickless fraud like Trump would never attempt.

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25446015_728560003996664_1071124589392627829_n.png ?oh=193db8906553ef7dd06471c27a9718b2&oe=5AB5DC85

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21768593_1624448544282116_471579764450968017_o.jpg ?oh=8daec48d4f38f4fd169144aae41f393f&oe=5AD6F3D4

[Blake]

10 angry Muslims?

Chris is a bigot

[Chris]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25497986_1035189826621727_3321422979376498094_n.pn g?oh=5148648f8a543a7c24c05fa16f8642a9&oe=5A89F346

[dabom]

I think chris is really scared of liberals. :lol

[Pavlov]

I think chris is really scared of liberals. :lolHe's got good reason. Remember the Great Antifa Nationwide Riots of November 4, 2017?

[Chris]

I think chris is really scared of liberals. :lol

It's a disease.

[Blake]

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25497986_1035189826621727_3321422979376498094_n.pn g?oh=5148648f8a543a7c24c05fa16f8642a9&oe=5A89F346

Chris has different kinds of Trump dreams

[boutons_deux]

Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner are sued over financial disclosures

First daughter and presidential adviser Ivanka Trump and her husband and fellow White House adviser Jared Kushner were hit with a lawsuit Sunday alleging illegal omissions on their public financial disclosure forms.

Washington lawyer Jeffrey Lovitky contends that Trump and Kushner failed to identify the assets owned by 30 investment funds the couple had stakes in.

The complaint (https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000160-6756-dcd4-a96b-777f3f740001) filed in U.S. District Court in Washington also claims the couple should have declared the value of and income they derived from two investment vehicles, but did not.

The suit notes that in a half dozen instances Kushner's report indicates that more detailed information is not being provided because a "pre-existing confidentiality agreement" precludes disclosure.

Kushner has updated (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/21/kushner-discolsoure-report-77-omitted-assets-240833) his complex financial disclosure form several dozen times since it was filed in March.

Both he and Ivanka Trump were also fined for late filings.

In order to take his West Wing job, Kushner resigned from 266 posts related to his investments.

He has divested some of his holdings, but not given up most of them.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/17/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-sued-financial-disclosures-302240

[Pavlov]

Why can't this guy drink a glass of water like a human being?

[boutons_deux]

Why can't this guy drink a glass of water like a human being?

some kind of neurological problem, but he still can swing a golf club.

[boutons_deux]

Christian Sharia gets kicked in the nuts

Court Blocks Trump’s Plan to Gut Birth Control Access

The Trump administration didn't follow the rules when it tried to roll back the Affordable Care Act's contraceptive mandate.

According to Judge Beetlestone, the rule contradicts the text of the ACA by granting employers a moral—in addition to a religious—objection to complying with the law.

Judge Beetlestone also said in her decision that if the administration’s rule were allowed to take effect, tens of thousands of women would lose contraceptive coverage.

“The potential harm faced by Pennsylvanian women and across the nation is enormous and irreversible,” Judge Beetlestone wrote.
“A simple hypothetical illustrates the insidious effect of the moral exemption rule,” Judge Beetlestone wrote.

“It would allow an employer with a sincerely held moral conviction that

women do not have a place in the workplace to simply stop providing contraceptive coverage.”

https://rewire.news/article/2017/12/18/court-blocks-trumps-plan-gut-birth-control-access/?utm_source=Rewire+Newsletter&utm_campaign=7ae63d7728-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_12_19&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_811d53d1b5-7ae63d7728-111083417

[boutons_deux]

Christian Sharia gets kicked in the nuts

Two teenagers being held by the Trump administration can get abortions, judge rules

The two women are part of a case on behalf of another undocumented teenager, Jane Doe.


Two pregnant, undocumented teenage women being held by the Trump administration should be allowed to get abortions, a federal judge ruled Monday.

The American Civil Liberties Union filed suit last Friday in Washington D.C., seeking a temporary restraining order that would allow the two teenagers to get the abortions they wanted before it was too late.

A judge ruled Monday that the teenagers, who have been dubbed Jane Roe and Jane Poe in court filings and are both 17 years old,

must now be allowed to leave the shelters in which they are currently being held by the Office of Refugee Resettlement and taken to an abortion provider.

They were unable to obtain abortions as part of a new policy adopted by the Trump administration that bars undocumented minors from getting an abortion without the approval of the Director of the Office of Refugee Resettlement.

Https://thinkprogress.org/undocumented-teenagers-abortion-28061844395c/ (Https://thinkprogress.org/undocumented-teenagers-abortion-28061844395c/)

Lloyd, yet another Catholic Christian sharia asshole

Trump’s Pick for Refugee Czar Never Resettled Refugees

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-pick-for-refugee-czar-never-resettled-refugees

[boutons_deux]

so much winning!

Senate panel rejects Trump's nominee to lead Ex-Im Bank

At his confirmation hearing (http://thehill.com/policy/finance/358285-trump-bank-nominee-gets-rough-reception-at-confirmation-hearing) last month, senators from both parties grilled Garrett over his push to disband the Ex-Im Bank as a member of Congress.
While in the House, Garrett was among the conservatives who

persistently tried to shut down the Ex-Im Bank on the grounds that its “crony capitalism distorts the market to help some of America’s biggest companies."

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/365584-senate-panel-rejects-trump-nominee-for-ex-imbank

So naturally, he's the oligarchy's choice to fuck up the ExIm bank

[Chris]

OkOrWZ2moBk

[Chris]

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25398619_1037037823103594_3690090410970672300_n.pn g?oh=50106b3edccf2797034f51118e07d635&oe=5AB463B1

[dabom]

They haven't done anything but deregulate.They haven't really passed anything to affect the economy. No one really thinks this was cause Trump. Nice shtick though. :lol

[boutons_deux]

They haven't done anything but deregulate.They haven't really passed anything to affect the economy. No one really thinks this was cause Trump. Nice shtick though. :lol

Trash claims it's a con job. At record Dec low of 35% approval, 60% disapproval, he causes people to have confidence.

[dabom]

Trash claims it's a con job. At record Dec low of 35% approval, 60% disapproval, he causes people to have confidence.

:lol

[Chris]

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25446000_1413611075432385_2891478939106255201_n.pn g?oh=a6cca1abc0b9eaf13f61e99085b43e10&oe=5AB8D519

[Chris]

Gallup: Hillary And Bill's Popularity Lower Than Whale Poop


According to a new Gallup poll, Bill and Hillary Clinton stink with the American public.

Bill Clinton’s poll numbers have sagged to their lowest level since 2001, just after he left office, and Hillary Clinton’s numbers have reached the nadir, the lowest level Gallup has ever recorded for her.

Only 36% of respondents approved of Hillary, with a whopping 61% disapproving. Her previous low came last year at 38% and in 1992, before many people knew who she was. Hillary’s poll numbers have dropped 5% since June. Oddly, Hillary’s peak came in a December 1998 poll just after the House of Representatives voted to impeach her husband; she reached an approval rating of 67%.

Gallup noted:

At times when she assumed a more overtly political role -- during attempts to reform healthcare in 1994, in her years as a U.S. senator, and during her 2007-2008 and 2015-2016 campaigns for president, her ratings suffered. Her favorable ratings were near 50% when she announced her second bid for the presidency in the spring of 2015, but fell in the summer of 2015 amid controversy over her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state.

Hillary had a 51% favorable rating among independents when she started her 2016 presidential campaign, but only 27% of them now view her favorably.

Bill Clinton’s numbers have dropped to 45% among those who rate him favorably while 52% see him unfavorably. The last time his numbers were this low was March 2001, when only 39% of respondents viewed him favorably. In all likelihood his numbers have plunged since sexual harassment has become central in the current political dialogue.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24885/gallup-hillary-and-bills-popularity-lower-whale-hank-berrien

[spurraider21]

approval numbers for a guy who hasnt held office in 18 years :lmao

[Spurminator]

And yet still higher than the guy currently holding office.

[boutons_deux]

https://media.newyorker.com/cartoons/5a394ec2d0152e62fb02211b/master/w_2046,c_limit/DC121917.jpg

[Chris]

dedicated to boots

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25395945_1411989942261165_8236926366145804316_n.jp g?oh=f6a5188102f79f4122595bdca917a232&oe=5AD25AB0

[Chris]

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25399061_1799939346971875_2853530836267205422_n.jp g?oh=be9778bf85e5071b174b7bb1ac1e2d01&oe=5ACB3904

[spurraider21]

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25399061_1799939346971875_2853530836267205422_n.jp g?oh=be9778bf85e5071b174b7bb1ac1e2d01&oe=5ACB3904
lincoln mopped the fuckin floor with the confederacy's fuckin ass

[Chris]

Wish I could embed this :lol

https://www.facebook.com/ProjectRepublicToday/videos/1736505226648621/

[dabom]

lincoln mopped the fuckin floor with the confederacy's fuckin ass

:lol

They want a rematch. :lmao

[Chris]

rut roh

Israeli Politicians Demand Obama Forfeit Nobel Peace Prize After Hezbollah Report


A damning report released Sunday by Politico chronicles how the Obama administration undid years of investigations into the terrorist organization Hezbollah in order to appease Iran and pave the way for the Iran deal. The report alleges that the Obama administration let terrorists walk free and halted law enforcement efforts against Hezbollah to help cement the former president’s foreign policy achievement. According to the report, the Obama administration’s backing off on the terrorist organization directly contributed to its growth and enrichment through money laundering and drug trade. It also made Hezbollah much more powerful and dangerous in the region. Politicians in Israel, a country directly affected by Hezbollah’s terror, have lashed out at Barack Obama over the report. Some have even called for him to return his Nobel Peace Prize. Here are some statements from prominent Israeli politicians, according to the Jerusalem Post: “Obama must return his Nobel Peace Prize. Israel warned repeatedly that there can be no connection between the nuclear deal and anti-terror activity, certainly against Hezbollah…We also warned of this specifically, because of the proven link between Hezbollah and Iran.” — Yesh Atid chairman Yair Lapid “Up until the Obama Administration, every American President fought terrorism uncompromisingly…I am convinced that the Trump Administration will not turn from that tradition and the outrageous and mistaken policy that was revealed this week will not be repeated.” — Regional Cooperation Minister Tzachi Hanegbi “It was clear that the government was willing to do anything to reach an agreement, including ignoring Iranian terror that took the lives of hundreds of Americans and Israelis and hundreds of thousands of Syrians. This exposée and others that may be published in the future must strengthen our resolve…[to] change this dangerous agreement.” — Former Israeli ambassador to the US Michael Oren “Does anyone still doubt why Obama was bad for Israel and how Trump is better for us?” — Communications Minister Ayoob Kara

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/19/israeli-politicians-demand-obama-forfeit-nobel-peace-prize-after-hezbollah-report/

[Pavlov]

lol Israeli politicians.

[Blake]

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25446000_1413611075432385_2891478939106255201_n.pn g?oh=a6cca1abc0b9eaf13f61e99085b43e10&oe=5AB8D519

:lol

[DMC]

approval numbers for a guy who hasnt held office in 18 years :lmao

Whose wife was trotted out by the left last year and embarrassed thoroughly Nationwide most likely worldwide. Don't try to run from that. It's your legacy go ahead and live with it.

If the DNC is going to keep Bill and Hillary front and center it's still relevant. But I love how you folks try to hide it like Flowers in the Attic.

[Blake]

dedicated to boots

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25395945_1411989942261165_8236926366145804316_n.jp g?oh=f6a5188102f79f4122595bdca917a232&oe=5AD25AB0

Oh it's a game to identify all the ways Chris is a bigot for jesus

[spurraider21]

Whose wife was trotted out by the left last year and embarrassed thoroughly Nationwide most likely worldwide. Don't try to run from that. It's your legacy go ahead and live with it.

If the DNC is going to keep Bill and Hillary front and center it's still relevant. But I love how you folks try to hide it like Flowers in the Attic.
Bob Dole lost. Get over it already.

[Spurminator]

:lol