The Official Trump is Doing Awesome Thread

[rmt]

mavsfan1000, if you're Christian, don't get a subsidy and don't want to pay $320 per month, I suggest joining CHM at $45 per month plus approx $9/month for Brothers' Keeper (at this level, adds $100k in coverage each year). So that'd be $225k coverage for $54 per month ($325k next year, etc. up to $1 million) - basically it's catastrophic coverage. Do a CWP (Comprehensive Wellness Panel) for $69 in December from directlabs.com and take results to an annual physical for $75 (call around and ask for cash price).

[rmt]

Has he decided on doing that? I thought he was only using that threat as leverage in the buildup to the AHCA. If Price actually zeroed out the penalty by not enforcing it wouldn't that collapse the market right away?

2. Remove the individual mandate's teeth

The Trump administration can't do away with the mandate requiring individuals to have health insurance on its own, but it can greatly weaken it. Doing so would be another way to seriously undermine the Affordable Care Act.

One way is through the IRS. That individual mandate is about tax incentives — fail to get insurance, and you have to pay a penalty. So to hobble Obamacare, the Trump administration can decide not to enforce that penalty.

In fact, the IRS already took a small step in that direction earlier this year. The agency said it will not reject "silent returns" — tax returns on which a person declines to say whether they have insurance.The IRS explained in a statement that this year, for the first time, the agency had been set to reject those silent returns. But Trump's January executive order on Obamacare changed that, telling the heads of executive branch offices to "waive, defer, grand exemptions from, or delay" parts of the act.

"Consistent with that, the IRS has decided to make changes that would continue to allow electronic and paper returns to be accepted for processing in instances where a taxpayer doesn't indicate their coverage status," the IRS said. "However, legislative provisions of the ACA law are still in force until changed by the Congress, and taxpayers remain required to follow the law and pay what they may owe."

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/03/29/521713002/6-changes-the-trump-administration-can-still-make-to-obamacare

[rmt]

From article above - IRS was accepting those silent returns UNDER OBAMA - so Trump is just continuing what was happening under Obama.

[boutons_deux]

so you have a $50K hip replacement, go out of pocket for $50K (get a loan, maybe from a Christian "Temple money changer" bank), while waiting for the $50K check from CHM?

[spurraider21]

Same result.
But it would still show up in tax returns. He's claiming it didn't for him

[rmt]

so you have a $50K hip replacement, go out of pocket for $50K (get a loan, maybe from a Christian "Temple money changer" bank), while waiting for the $50K check from CHM?

boutons, read the links - the explanation is there.

http://www.chministries.org/whattodo.aspx

http://www.chministries.org/providerinteraction.aspx

[clambake]

so.....you have to be christian.


thats not very christian.

[rmt]

But it would still show up in tax returns. He's claiming it didn't for him

What I'm getting from the below is that IRS will accept/process your return if it's silent (you don't state whether you had coverage or not). I don't know what TurboTax says as dh still has not done our taxes :-( Iirc from last year, it asks you to check off which months you had coverage and you just wouldn't check any month and IRS would process even if you were silent. After it's processed, if you were later selected for audit, you would be liable for the penalty.

This year, the IRS put in place system changes that would reject tax returns during processing in instances where the taxpayer didn’t provide information related to health coverage.
However, the Jan. 20, 2017, executive order directed federal agencies to exercise authority and discretion available to them to reduce potential burden.‎ Consistent with that, the IRS has decided to make changes that would continue to allow electronic and paper returns to be accepted for processing in instances where a taxpayer doesn’t indicate their coverage status.

However, legislative provisions of the ACA law are still in force until changed by the Congress, and taxpayers remain required to follow the law and pay what they may owe‎.

Processing silent returns means that taxpayer returns are not systemically rejected by the IRS at the time of filing, allowing the returns to be processed and minimizing burden on taxpayers, including those expecting a refund. When the IRS has questions about a tax return, taxpayers may receive follow-up questions and correspondence at a future date, after the filing process is completed‎. This is similar to how we handled this in previous years, and this reflects the normal IRS post-filing compliance procedures that we follow.

https://www.irs.gov/affordable-care-act/individuals-and-families/individual-shared-responsibility-provision

[rmt]

so.....you have to be christian.


thats not very christian.

It's not insurance with a legal contract - there's a certain amount of trust involved. Members must be:

Christians living by biblical principles, including abstaining from the use of tobacco and the illegal use of drugs (1 Corinthians 6:19-20), following biblical teaching on the use of alcohol, and attending group worship regularly if health permits (Hebrews 10:25). There are no restrictions based on age, weight, geographic location or health history.

So the cost is low as tobacco, alcohol, illegal drugs, abortion, STDs, etc is avoided.

[boutons_deux]

2016 was plainly an anomaly. While the wealthy are usually most likely to vote for the Republican, they didn’t this time; and while the poor are usually less likely to vote for the Republican, they were unusually supportive of Trump. And the degree to which the wealthy disdained the 2016 Republican candidate was without recent historical precedent.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/files/2017/04/WOOD-Fig-2-authoritarianism-768x1024.png&w=1484




So which of these had the biggest influence?

Finally, the statistical tool of regression can tease apart which had more influence on the 2016 vote: authoritarianism or symbolic racism, after controlling for education, race, ideology, and age. Moving from the 50th to the 75th percentile in the authoritarian scale made someone about 3 percent more likely to vote for Trump. The same jump on the SRS scale made someone 20 percent more likely to vote for Trump.

Racial attitudes made a bigger difference in electing Trump than authoritarianism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/04/17/racism-motivated-trump-voters-more-than-authoritarianism-or-income-inequality/?utm_term=.bb6a310ea394&wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

[boutons_deux]

This brutal new poll shows that fewer and fewer people believe Trump’s lies

A new Gallup poll out this morning (http://www.gallup.com/poll/208640/majority-no-longer-thinks-trump-keeps-promises.aspx?g_source=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles), however, strongly suggests that an increasing number of Americans just don’t believe Trump’s spin about his presidency anymore. It finds that

only 45 percent of Americans think Trump keeps his promises, down from 62 percent in February, an astonishing slide of 17 points:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/04/17/this-brutal-new-poll-shows-that-fewer-and-fewer-people-believe-trumps-lies/?utm_term=.4e709e98277c&wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

"only 45%" ?? :lol :lol

conned, duped dumbfucks, and like Trash, they are too fucking ignorant and stupid to realize how ignorant they are.

[Mark Celibate]

It's not insurance with a legal contract - there's a certain amount of trust involved. Members must be:

Christians living by biblical principles, including abstaining from the use of tobacco and the illegal use of drugs (1 Corinthians 6:19-20), following biblical teaching on the use of alcohol, and attending group worship regularly if health permits (Hebrews 10:25). There are no restrictions based on age, weight, geographic location or health history.

So the cost is low as tobacco, alcohol, illegal drugs, abortion, STDs, etc is avoided.

What about in network vs out of network? I am actually a little bit interested if this is legit and if my insurance were to ever skyrocket. They talk about promising to "negotiate" with hospitals about lowering the costs but what exactly does that mean? Some red flags are starting to go up and it seems somewhat "scam-like"

Also, for some reason I just can't get over the fact that this system will likely be abused. I'm Orthodox and I've donated my time/money to the church for years now so I have no problem with the sharing money idea. However, I don't want to give money to phyzik who will then turn around, log on to spurstalk, and talk about how dumb Christianity is. There needs to be some verification here

[clambake]

It's not insurance with a legal contract - there's a certain amount of trust involved. Members must be:

Christians living by biblical principles, including abstaining from the use of tobacco and the illegal use of drugs (1 Corinthians 6:19-20), following biblical teaching on the use of alcohol, and attending group worship regularly if health permits (Hebrews 10:25). There are no restrictions based on age, weight, geographic location or health history.

So the cost is low as tobacco, alcohol, illegal drugs, abortion, STDs, etc is avoided.

thats some crazy shit right there.

[baseline bum]

It's not insurance with a legal contract - there's a certain amount of trust involved. Members must be:

Christians living by biblical principles, including abstaining from the use of tobacco and the illegal use of drugs (1 Corinthians 6:19-20), following biblical teaching on the use of alcohol, and attending group worship regularly if health permits (Hebrews 10:25). There are no restrictions based on age, weight, geographic location or health history.

So the cost is low as tobacco, alcohol, illegal drugs, abortion, STDs, etc is avoided.

You can't drink alcohol? How is that biblical when Jesus was down with wine?

[boutons_deux]

You can't drink alcohol? How is that biblical when Jesus was down with wine?

Christianity is just like Judaism and Mohammedism, for 1000s of years, men have added 1000s rules, not God. And you're going to hell if you don't comply.

fucking fascists, all of them

[baseline bum]

What about in network vs out of network? I am actually a little bit interested if this is legit and if my insurance were to ever skyrocket. They talk about promising to "negotiate" with hospitals about lowering the costs but what exactly does that mean? Some red flags are starting to go up and it seems somewhat "scam-like"


It sounds like a great way to go into medical bankruptcy if you have any kind of major health crisis and not everyone who sends you a bill is willing to take whatever that fake insurance would pay out.

[benefactor]

You can't drink alcohol? How is that biblical when Jesus was down with wine?
Not only was he down with it, he waited until everyone at a wedding was hammered out of their minds and made more.

[Will Hunting]

Has he decided on doing that? I thought he was only using that threat as leverage in the buildup to the AHCA. If Price actually zeroed out the penalty by not enforcing it wouldn't that collapse the market right away?
Yes it would. The people with low healthcare costs would drop their plan since they don't need to pay a penalty and the insurance companies would pull out of the marketplace since the only people left using the marketplace would be people who need the healthcare.

[boutons_deux]

Slave state Price can do tremendous damage to, even destroy, ACA without Congress involved.

[boutons_deux]

Armed Trump fans are contemplating a shooting war with progressives and anti-fascists (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/15/1653366/-Armed-Trump-fans-are-contemplating-a-shooting-war-with-progressives-and-anti-facists)

http://images.dailykos.com/images/388587/story_image/donald-trump_%282%29.jpg?1492058163

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/gun-advocates-fear-armed-trump-supporters-as-they-escalate-threats-of-violence-against-progressives/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRhie2TizI0

[rmt]

You can't drink alcohol? How is that biblical when Jesus was down with wine?

I don't think they consider (watered-down) wine as alcohol - more like a necessity for cleanliness. It's more likely imbibing/abuse of alcohol.

[spurraider21]

What I'm getting from the below is that IRS will accept/process your return if it's silent (you don't state whether you had coverage or not). I don't know what TurboTax says as dh still has not done our taxes :-( Iirc from last year, it asks you to check off which months you had coverage and you just wouldn't check any month and IRS would process even if you were silent. After it's processed, if you were later selected for audit, you would be liable for the penalty.

This year, the IRS put in place system changes that would reject tax returns during processing in instances where the taxpayer didn’t provide information related to health coverage.
However, the Jan. 20, 2017, executive order directed federal agencies to exercise authority and discretion available to them to reduce potential burden.‎ Consistent with that, the IRS has decided to make changes that would continue to allow electronic and paper returns to be accepted for processing in instances where a taxpayer doesn’t indicate their coverage status.

However, legislative provisions of the ACA law are still in force until changed by the Congress, and taxpayers remain required to follow the law and pay what they may owe‎.

Processing silent returns means that taxpayer returns are not systemically rejected by the IRS at the time of filing, allowing the returns to be processed and minimizing burden on taxpayers, including those expecting a refund. When the IRS has questions about a tax return, taxpayers may receive follow-up questions and correspondence at a future date, after the filing process is completed‎. This is similar to how we handled this in previous years, and this reflects the normal IRS post-filing compliance procedures that we follow.

https://www.irs.gov/affordable-care-act/individuals-and-families/individual-shared-responsibility-provision
Yeah well if it's just a continuation of an Obama policy then it makes no sense to say he saved money "because of trump"

[rmt]

What about in network vs out of network? I am actually a little bit interested if this is legit and if my insurance were to ever skyrocket. They talk about promising to "negotiate" with hospitals about lowering the costs but what exactly does that mean? Some red flags are starting to go up and it seems somewhat "scam-like"

Also, for some reason I just can't get over the fact that this system will likely be abused. I'm Orthodox and I've donated my time/money to the church for years now so I have no problem with the sharing money idea. However, I don't want to give money to phyzik who will then turn around, log on to spurstalk, and talk about how dumb Christianity is. There needs to be some verification here

There is no "in network" - you can go to any doctor or hospital. What is important is negotiating the discount - CHM discourages paying (too much) up front - as then there's no need for provider to negotiate (they'll help you negotiate). For CHM, they ask for your church's name and pastor (I don't know if they verify) on the application. I guess some non-Christian could apply and take a chance they won't verify but CHM also won't pay for abortion, STD/AIDS/HIV through non-marital relationship/non-christian behavior.

What I really like about CHM is the 3 levels and you can switch between levels. CHM only covers pre-existings for $15k, $25k or $50k for 1st, 2nd or 3rd years. After 3rd year, pre-existings go away. My dh has major pre-existings (heart) so I maintain $45/month bronze level for him to pass the 3 year pre-existing threshold. If he loses his job/insurance, he'd switch from bronze to Gold level. Obamacare (or Cobra) is crazy expensive at his age.

[baseline bum]

Slave state Price can do tremendous damage to, even destroy, ACA without Congress involved.

True, but then he'd have to deal with the wrath of the insurance companies that elect our government.

[baseline bum]

There is no "in network" - you can go to any doctor or hospital. What is important is negotiating the discount - CHM discourages paying (too much) up front - as then there's no need for provider to negotiate (they'll help you negotiate). For CHM, they ask for your church's name and pastor (I don't know if they verify) on the application. I guess some non-Christian could apply and take a chance they won't verify but CHM also won't pay for abortion, STD/AIDS/HIV through non-marital relationship/non-christian behavior.


What happens when you get to someone who won't negotiate and sues you?

[rmt]

What happens when you get to someone who won't negotiate and sues you?

Guys, please read for yourselves:

http://www.chministries.org/whattodo.aspx

[leemajors]

Guys, please read for yourselves:

http://www.chministries.org/whattodo.aspx

That really doesn't say a whole lot besides get treatment first and try to negotiate and hope you get a discount and reimbursement. Have you actually filed claims and been reimbursed?

[baseline bum]

Guys, please read for yourselves:

http://www.chministries.org/whattodo.aspx

You're the one pushing that as a viable insurance replacement. Your burden of proof.

[rmt]

That really doesn't say a whole lot besides get treatment first and try to negotiate and hope you get a discount and reimbursement. Have you actually filed claims and been reimbursed?

If it is non-emergency, you can comparison shop and choose the lowest price/value. This is where the greatest savings would be.

If it's an emergency (major accident/heart attack/stroke), the hospitals have to take you. After, you (or your spouse/family member and CHM) can try to negotiate for discount - regardless, of whether you get a discount or not, CHM should pay up. As I said earlier, it requires some degree of trust - there's no legal insurance contract. If non-critical emergency, go to urgent care.

No, I have not personally filed claims and been reimbursed - we were on it for the 5 months dh was out of work and he still has the bronze level as described earlier - we used it (gold level) mostly as catastrophic coverage - at $459/month still a lot cheaper than Obamacare or COBRA for family of 5.

Can I say again how much I hate Obamacare - test for dh's portion of healthcare affordability is 9.5% of household income - does not take into account the cost for the other 4 of us.

[clambake]

"try to negotiate" lol

[rmt]

mavsfan1000, if you're Christian, don't get a subsidy and don't want to pay $320 per month, I suggest joining CHM at $45 per month plus approx $9/month for Brothers' Keeper (at this level, adds $100k in coverage each year). So that'd be $225k coverage for $54 per month ($325k next year, etc. up to $1 million) - basically it's catastrophic coverage. Do a CWP (Comprehensive Wellness Panel) for $69 in December from directlabs.com and take results to an annual physical for $75 (call around and ask for cash price).

BB, I think that I was quite clear that my suggestion is for CHRISTIANS - which doesn't include you. I'm not going to reply to every single scenario you guys dream up when you cannot participate. You can read just as well or better than I can. If you're interested in another model, read the website or call them yourself. Look, it's another option that some Christians might be interested in. As with everything, research and buyer beware.

[clambake]

do you get an extra discount if you're a homophobic christian?

[rmt]

"try to negotiate" lol

like it's any worse than when you get an invoice from the insurance company with charge, insurance discount, insurance paid and PATIENT OWES $x.xx - after you thought you already paid the copay.

[baseline bum]

BB, I think that I was quite clear that my suggestion is for CHRISTIANS - which doesn't include you. I'm not going to reply to every single scenario you guys dream up when you cannot participate. You can read just as well or better than I can. If you're interested in another model, read the website or call them yourself. Look, it's another option that some Christians might be interested in. As with everything, research and buyer beware.

You're not going to defend the scenario when a medical provider doesn't negotiate? That's pretty standard when out of network. :lol

[Blake]

Are Muslims forbidden from using this Christian insurance company?

[baseline bum]

Are Muslims forbidden from using this Christian insurance company?

It's not an insurance company. And it seems like something that would be useless for anyone who has any kind of money. It sounds more like a group that tries to strongarm medical providers into taking rates that were never negotiated for before-hand because they can say "hey have fun suing my broke ass client who doesn't have shit you can take." And for people who don't have much money the ACA already steps in with pretty generous subsidies, so what's the use of this? Anyone who has money and is on this fake Christian insurance could just get sued and have assets seized when the medical provider has no incentive to negotiate a price down for care already administered.

[leemajors]

If it is non-emergency, you can comparison shop and choose the lowest price/value. This is where the greatest savings would be.

If it's an emergency (major accident/heart attack/stroke), the hospitals have to take you. After, you (or your spouse/family member and CHM) can try to negotiate for discount - regardless, of whether you get a discount or not, CHM should pay up. As I said earlier, it requires some degree of trust - there's no legal insurance contract. If non-critical emergency, go to urgent care.

No, I have not personally filed claims and been reimbursed - we were on it for the 5 months dh was out of work and he still has the bronze level as described earlier - we used it (gold level) mostly as catastrophic coverage - at $459/month still a lot cheaper than Obamacare or COBRA for family of 5.

Can I say again how much I hate Obamacare - test for dh's portion of healthcare affordability is 9.5% of household income - does not take into account the cost for the other 4 of us.

I just don't see how you could recommend this to anyone in good faith if you've never tried to actually use it.

[Will Hunting]

This actually sounds like a great business idea. You can always find a reason not to pay out (personal responsibility, you didn't correctly negotiate, etc.), all the while you're charging bullshit premiums to people who think they're getting wholesome, family values insurance.

[clambake]

This actually sounds like a great business idea. You can always find a reason not to pay out (personal responsibility, you didn't correctly negotiate, etc.), all the while you're charging bullshit premiums to people who think they're getting wholesome, family values insurance.

so its just another invisible product from the church.

[rmt]

I just don't see how you could recommend this to anyone in good faith if you've never tried to actually use it.

My entire family has been members. My dh is currently a member (to reach the 3 year pre-existing threshold but has concurrent employer sponsored health insurance that he uses). Do you see that it is basically catastrophic coverage with you footing routine/maintenance health costs like annual physical, flu visit, etc. In my case, CHM would cover any incident costing more than $500 per year. So, if during the 5 months that we were on CHM, we didn't have any incident over $500 that it would not be "used" - that does NOT mean that we didn't have coverage had any incident happened. Did I not say that it involved some degree of trust - that there was no legal contract - one is contributing (like my husband is) to the pool trusting that if something happens, you will also be reimbursed. If you do not wish to place that trust after researching it, don't. It is as I said - another option that offers some coverage at a reasonable cost.

When my dh reaches his 3 year threshold, then we will make a decision as to whether to switch the family back to CHM depending on what happens to Obamacare, whether he decides to retire early, if he gets laid off again, etc - who knows what the future holds but we will have options rather than being forced to work until Medicare age or pay Obamacare/COBRA rates if he is laid off.

[rmt]

It's not an insurance company. And it seems like something that would be useless for anyone who has any kind of money. It sounds more like a group that tries to strongarm medical providers into taking rates that were never negotiated for before-hand because they can say "hey have fun suing my broke ass client who doesn't have shit you can take." And for people who don't have much money the ACA already steps in with pretty generous subsidies, so what's the use of this? Anyone who has money and is on this fake Christian insurance could just get sued and have assets seized when the medical provider has no incentive to negotiate a price down for care already administered.

You're not reading carefully - I did tell mavsfan1000, if he DIDN'T qualify for subsidy - yes, this does not make sense for someone who qualifies for subsidies. Some do contribute just to help out fellow Christians with their medical bills. It doesn't make sense for a Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, etc. who can self-insure but for someone with some assets to protect who loses employer-sponsored insurance, it makes sense temporarily until he finds another job or retires before Medicare. It protects against catastrophe and you pay out of pocket for annual/sick visits. Where is the suing? CHM will pay for submitted bills over program deductible. Financial gifts are placed into a Member Escrow Account, which undergoes an annual, independent audit.

[clambake]

or take that money and buy lottery tickets.

[boutons_deux]

Trash LIES that his approval rating is 50% :lol

[baseline bum]

This actually sounds like a great business idea. You can always find a reason not to pay out (personal responsibility, you didn't correctly negotiate, etc.), all the while you're charging bullshit premiums to people who think they're getting wholesome, family values insurance.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/christians-flock-to-groups-that-help-members-pay-medical-bills.html

Upon joining, members waive their right to sue, and in the case of Samaritan, appeals panels of randomly selected members are supposed to settle disputes. Mr. Lansberry said that such panels had been convened only four times since Samaritan’s founding in 1994, and that the group had never been the subject of complaints to state attorneys general or insurance commissioners.

The insurance commissioner in Washington State did try to stop Samaritan from operating in 2011, saying it was selling “unauthorized insurance,” but the state Legislature passed a law explicitly exempting health care sharing ministries from regulations.

Insurance commissioners in Kentucky and Oklahoma had tried to block Medi-Share, the Florida-based ministry, but were thwarted when their legislatures also passed protection laws.

In 2001, Ohio’s attorney general sued one ministry — known then as the Christian Brotherhood Newsletter, and now as Christian Healthcare Ministries — ultimately forcing its leaders to repay $15 million they had spent on homes, vehicles and excessive salaries out of the fund where members had sent payments. :lol

Members have filed a handful of lawsuits against Medi-Share after bills they had expected to be covered were not. The cases were settled out of court. While the health law requires the ministries to submit to annual independent audits, critics question whether that safeguard is sufficient.

“Our message has consistently been that this is not a health insurance product that we regulate, so buyer beware,” said Nick Gerhart, the insurance commissioner in Iowa. “A premature baby could cost $1 million pretty easily, so it wouldn’t take very many of those to put a significant strain on any group, let alone an unregulated group like this.”

[clambake]

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/christians-flock-to-groups-that-help-members-pay-medical-bills.html

Upon joining, members waive their right to sue, and in the case of Samaritan, appeals panels of randomly selected members are supposed to settle disputes. Mr. Lansberry said that such panels had been convened only four times since Samaritan’s founding in 1994, and that the group had never been the subject of complaints to state attorneys general or insurance commissioners.

The insurance commissioner in Washington State did try to stop Samaritan from operating in 2011, saying it was selling “unauthorized insurance,” but the state Legislature passed a law explicitly exempting health care sharing ministries from regulations.

Insurance commissioners in Kentucky and Oklahoma had tried to block Medi-Share, the Florida-based ministry, but were thwarted when their legislatures also passed protection laws.

In 2001, Ohio’s attorney general sued one ministry — known then as the Christian Brotherhood Newsletter, and now as Christian Healthcare Ministries — ultimately forcing its leaders to repay $15 million they had spent on homes, vehicles and excessive salaries out of the fund where members had sent payments. :lol

Members have filed a handful of lawsuits against Medi-Share after bills they had expected to be covered were not. The cases were settled out of court. While the health law requires the ministries to submit to annual independent audits, critics question whether that safeguard is sufficient.

“Our message has consistently been that this is not a health insurance product that we regulate, so buyer beware,” said Nick Gerhart, the insurance commissioner in Iowa. “A premature baby could cost $1 million pretty easily, so it wouldn’t take very many of those to put a significant strain on any group, let alone an unregulated group like this.”

:lmao

[rmt]

For people who are so against Big Insurance to mock ordinary people grouping together on their own to form a solution to health care costs is strange. You would think that you'd be celebrating the little guys participating in a group that's lasted since 1981. And yes, premature babies would put a strain on any group but I would put money betting that the health of CHM's members (who try to follow "your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit") is better than that of the drinking, smoking, drug-using, promiscuous general population out there.

[baseline bum]

For people who are so against Big Insurance to mock ordinary people grouping together on their own to form a solution to health care costs is strange. You would think that you'd be celebrating the little guys participating in a group that's lasted since 1981. And yes, premature babies would put a strain on any group but I would put money betting that the health of CHM's members (who try to follow "your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit") is better than that of the drinking, smoking, drug-using, promiscuous general population out there.

:lol

In 2001, Ohio’s attorney general sued one ministry — known then as the Christian Brotherhood Newsletter, and now as Christian Healthcare Ministries — ultimately forcing its leaders to repay $15 million they had spent on homes, vehicles and excessive salaries out of the fund where members had sent payments.

[Reck]

Has this been posted yet?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_GaDLPUFRU

Having to have your immigrant wife remind you to raise your hand. Embarrassing stuff from the American First faggot.

[spurraider21]

:lol

[Will Hunting]

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/christians-flock-to-groups-that-help-members-pay-medical-bills.html

Upon joining, members waive their right to sue, and in the case of Samaritan, appeals panels of randomly selected members are supposed to settle disputes. Mr. Lansberry said that such panels had been convened only four times since Samaritan’s founding in 1994, and that the group had never been the subject of complaints to state attorneys general or insurance commissioners.

The insurance commissioner in Washington State did try to stop Samaritan from operating in 2011, saying it was selling “unauthorized insurance,” but the state Legislature passed a law explicitly exempting health care sharing ministries from regulations.

Insurance commissioners in Kentucky and Oklahoma had tried to block Medi-Share, the Florida-based ministry, but were thwarted when their legislatures also passed protection laws.

In 2001, Ohio’s attorney general sued one ministry — known then as the Christian Brotherhood Newsletter, and now as Christian Healthcare Ministries — ultimately forcing its leaders to repay $15 million they had spent on homes, vehicles and excessive salaries out of the fund where members had sent payments. :lol

Members have filed a handful of lawsuits against Medi-Share after bills they had expected to be covered were not. The cases were settled out of court. While the health law requires the ministries to submit to annual independent audits, critics question whether that safeguard is sufficient.

“Our message has consistently been that this is not a health insurance product that we regulate, so buyer beware,” said Nick Gerhart, the insurance commissioner in Iowa. “A premature baby could cost $1 million pretty easily, so it wouldn’t take very many of those to put a significant strain on any group, let alone an unregulated group like this.”
Well fuck, it looks like these assholes beat me to it :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trump Scheme Backfires As Millennial Women Can’t Stand Ivanka Trump

The woman who is supposed to be President Trump's "in" with women is not so much. Especially among millennial women.

They really, really disapprove of Ivanka.

Among women age 18-34, only 21% have a favorable view of Ivanka Trump, while 52% have an unfavorable view according to a Survey Monkey (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a9246000/ivanka-trump-favorability-survey-april-2017/) poll.“

According to the survey, 39 percent of Americans overall have a favorable view of Ivanka Trump,

while 37 percent have an unfavorable view,

and 22 percent say they don’t know enough to say.

(First lady Melania Trump matches Ivanka in popularity, with an identical approval rating of 39 percent, and an unfavorability rating of 33 percent.)”

In August (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a62047/ivanka-trump-young-women/) of 2016, only 28% of women ages 18 to 34 said they had a favorable view of Ivanka Trump, while 42% had an unfavorable view, according to a Cosmopolitan/Morning Consult survey.

So Ivanka has lost about 7% in approval and gained 10% in disapproval since August. :lol

A net 17% loss in what started out poorly.

It could be that millennials are much less prone to buying the “locker room talk” baloney about Trump’s sexual assaults.

The culture around rape and sexual assault has changed for millennials; while it’s still happening, there isn’t as great of a tolerance for “rape culture” — and Donald Trump is walking rape culture.Ivanka did better with older women and with men, naturally.

She was designed by her father to target men, not women.

This same survey showed that the folks with the most visibility in the Trump camp are the most despised, like

Kellyanne Conway with only 26% approving of her, :lol

only 25% approve of Sean Spicer, :lol

Reince Priebus is at 21%, :lol

and the white supremacist determined to destroy our government, aka, the conservative from Breitbart

Steve Bannon is at a a very sad 20% of approval. :lol

To put this mildly, America is not impressed with the Trump inner circle.

(http://www.politicususa.com/2017/04/18/ivanka-trump-positioned-champion-women-millennial-women-buying.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)http://www.politicususa.com/2017/04/18/ivanka-trump-positioned-champion-women-millennial-women-buying.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

JFK was Camelot, Trash and his orcs are Mordor :lol

[rmt]

boutons, there's no reason for millennial women to dislike Ivanka except that Trump is her father. She's beautiful, intelligent, had her own business, mother, wife, successful, etc - iow, a model of the modern woman.

[clambake]

boutons, there's no reason for millennial women to dislike Ivanka except that Trump is her father. She's beautiful, intelligent, had her own business, mother, wife, successful, etc - iow, a model of the modern woman.

or you could be born into it.

[baseline bum]

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

boutons, there's no reason for millennial women to dislike Ivanka except that Trump is her father. She's beautiful, intelligent, had her own business, mother, wife, successful, etc - iow, a model of the modern woman.

goddam, your'e stupid

Ivanka and hubby ENABLE Trash, and Trash is garbage

[boutons_deux]

Appeals court rules that Donald Trump's golf course still owes more than $400,000 to paint store (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/17/1653739/-Appeals-court-rules-that-Donald-Trump-s-golf-course-still-owes-almost-400-000-to-paint-store)

Circuit Court Judge Jorge Cueto,presiding over a lawsuit related to unpaid bills brought by a local paint store against the Trump National Doral Miami golf resort, ordered the billionaire politician’s company to pay the Doral-based mom-and-pop shop nearly $300,000 in attorney’s fees.

All because, according to the lawsuit,

Trump allegedly tried to stiff The Paint Spot on its last payment of $34,863 on a $200,000 contract for paint used in the renovation of the home of golf’s famed Blue Monster two years ago.

Trump National Doral Miami (http://www.trump.com/hotel-collection/florida/trump-national-miami/) must pay The Paint Spot more than $32,000 plus attorney’s fees of about $390,000, meaning

the total Trump must hand over is almost triple the original paint bill of $142,530.

The ruling (http://www.3dca.flcourts.org/Opinions/3D16-1065.pdf) was issued Wednesday by Florida’s Third District Court of Appeal in Miami.

“The case should never have reached this stage,” Daniel Vega, attorney for The Paint Spot, said in an interview. The property’s owner "refused to ever consider any type of reasonable settlement," he said.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/17/1653739/-Appeals-court-rules-that-Donald-Trump-s-golf-course-still-owes-almost-400-000-to-paint-store?detail=email&link_id=12&can_id=4217e8eb109c68bd0c2e4143dd2d8c15&source=email-gorsuch-already-trying-to-blow-up-the-supreme-court-2&email_referrer=gorsuch-already-trying-to-blow-up-the-supreme-court-2&email_subject=gorsuch-already-trying-to-blow-up-the-supreme-court

[boutons_deux]

Conservative columnist offers a brutal assessment on why Trump bombed Syria

“Once sworn in, rather than get a political honeymoon with the news media, Trump had an angry divorce,” Goldberg notes.

“And instead of giving Trump a big gift-wrapped box of legislation, Congress has mostly given him the sorts of headaches presidents have to deal with when they’ve lost their clout.”

“What happens when the list of easy Ws runs out?” he asks.

“There’s little evidence that Trump is operating with a coherent strategic vision, which means that he won’t have a thought-out criteria for knowing when to say no to the generals he clearly admires.

For a true lame duck president, that may not matter —

when the Ws run out, he’s out of office.

For a first-term president who just acts like a lame duck president, it’s another story.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/conservative-columnist-offers-a-brutal-assessment-on-why-trump-bombed-syria/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Trash as LOSER Lame Duck at 100 days in office. :lol

Trash signing EOs to trash Obama, EASY Ws.

[boutons_deux]

How Trump Embodies The Right-Wing Media’s Caricature Of Obama:

Lazy Knitter, Secretive, And Corrupt

During Barack Obama’s presidency, perhaps no conservative media outlet lamented (http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/18/obama-has-golfed-four-times-more-than-bush-did-in-eight-years/) as loudly (http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/24/taxpayer-tab-for-obama-trip-that-included-golf-with-tiger-woods-3-6-million/) about the frequency of the president's golf games as Tucker Carlson's Daily Caller.

Year after year, a parade of Daily Caller staffers lined up to feed the phony outrage machine (https://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/03/27/trumps-golfing-reveals-shameless-hypocrisy-right-wing-media-bunker/215829) by detailing the supposedly mountainous taxpayer costs associated with the excursions. The headlines often stressed that Obama’s golf trips took place against the backdrop of grim news events, suggesting the president was pampered and out of touch:

“Milwaukee Burns, Louisiana Floods, Obama Golfs (http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/15/milwaukee-burns-louisiana-floods-obama-golfs/)” (August 15)

“As Suspected Terror Rages In Berlin, Obama Hits Hawaiian Golf Course (http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/19/as-suspected-terror-rages-in-berlin-obama-hits-a-hawaiian-golf-course/)” (December 19)

For eight years, the “Obama golfs too much” narrative (http://gawker.com/5814150/roger-ailes-secret-nixon-era-blueprint-for-fox-news/1625548519) served as shorthand for the right-wing press to denigrate the president as lazy, not serious, and tone deaf.

And then came President Donald Trump.

What else did the far-right press love to hit (http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/obama-white-house-most-corrupt-in-history/) Obama on? Corruption (https://mediamatters.org/video/2010/01/07/ksfos-rodgers-calls-obama-the-most-corrupt-pres/158714), naturally. (Note that unlike some of Obama's predecessors, during (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/barack-obama-scandal-legacy_us_5875a0fce4b05b7a465c67ed) his two terms "there were no grand juries investigating his aides. There were no impeachments.

There were neither convictions of White House staffers, nor pardons to protect government officials.")

Today, while Trump and his family obliterate (http://theweek.com/articles/674190/trump-white-house-orgy-looting-corruption) all the norms for White House corruption (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/trumps-self-enrichment-gets-even-more-corrupt.html) and self-enrichment (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/trumps-self-enrichment-gets-even-more-corrupt.html), the same critics remain mostly mute.

Trump now seems to embody everything the right-wing press complained about regarding Obama. And suddenly they’re fine with it.

https://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/04/18/how-trump-embodies-right-wing-media-s-caricature-obama-lazy-secretive-and-corrupt/216056?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MediaMattersForAmerica-CountyFair+%28Media+Matters+for+America+-+Blog%29

And now egregiously hypocritical Krazy Kruz is worried about the Dems shutting down govt in budget fight! :lol

[boutons_deux]

JARED KUSHNER CALLS KIM JONG-UN “TOTALLY UNQUALIFIED PERSON” WHO GOT JOB ONLY THROUGH NEPOTISM

http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Borowitz-JaredKushnerCallsKimJong-unTotallyUnqualified-800.jpg

WASHINGTON —Offering a stunningly blunt appraisal of the North Korean leader, Jared Kushner said on Tuesday that Kim Jong-un was a “totally unqualified person” who attained his position of power only through nepotism.

“Here you have a guy who has no government experience, and he’s in charge of the whole thing,”

Kushner said, in an interview with Fox News.

“It’s the craziest thing I’ve ever heard of.”

Kushner noted that,

instead of working his way up and acquiring the skills necessary to do his job, the North Korean leader had been given huge responsibilities and power “only because of family connections.”

“There’s only one word for that,” he said. “Nepotism.”

Kushner called the notion of

such an unqualified person conducting foreign policy “beyond belief.”

“I mean, why would you let someone with no experience in foreign affairs anywhere near such important decisions?”

Kushner added.

“Why would anyone take someone like that seriously?”

Kushner said that the people of North Korea

must look at the powerful position attained by the “totally inexperienced and unqualified” Kim

and shake their heads.

“They’ve got to be asking themselves, ‘Who elected him?’ ” he said.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/jared-kushner-calls-kim-jong-un-totally-unqualified-person-who-got-job-only-through-nepotism (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/jared-kushner-calls-kim-jong-un-totally-unqualified-person-who-got-job-only-through-nepotism)

[boutons_deux]

Trash encourages Repugs to be politically incorrek

Florida Republican senator calls fellow senators the N-word and ‘b*tch’ in racist rant with black colleagues

A Republican state senator from Miami used the n-word in a conversation with two black colleagues on Monday night—in addition to flung insults at his female colleague, including “f*cking asshole,” “bitch” and “girl,”

Florida Senate president Joe Negron was able to secure his leadership role because “six n*ggers” elected him.

“He said, ‘If it wasn’t for these six n*ggers,’” Gibson explained. According to Gibson, Artiles also referred to her as “this f*cking asshole” and “this bitch.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/florida-republican-senator-calls-fellow-senators-the-n-word-and-btch-in-racist-rant-with-black-colleagues/

Repugs, the undisputed party of racists.

[boutons_deux]

"STUPID, or NEFARIOUS"

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/stupid-or-nefarious-rachel-maddow-destroys-trump-administrations-many-missteps-in-brutal-review/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Flawless red-state hog-ball-biter:

GOP Sen. On Working With Trump: ‘We Have a PVL so-called President That Has a Number of Flaws’

http://www.mediaite.com/online/we-have-a-president-that-has-a-number-of-flaws-gop-sen-on-working-with-trump/

:lol Some flaws are serious, but other flaws are ... serious.

Trash's supports also have a number of flaws.

[benefactor]

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/christians-flock-to-groups-that-help-members-pay-medical-bills.html

Upon joining, members waive their right to sue, and in the case of Samaritan, appeals panels of randomly selected members are supposed to settle disputes. Mr. Lansberry said that such panels had been convened only four times since Samaritan’s founding in 1994, and that the group had never been the subject of complaints to state attorneys general or insurance commissioners.

The insurance commissioner in Washington State did try to stop Samaritan from operating in 2011, saying it was selling “unauthorized insurance,” but the state Legislature passed a law explicitly exempting health care sharing ministries from regulations.

Insurance commissioners in Kentucky and Oklahoma had tried to block Medi-Share, the Florida-based ministry, but were thwarted when their legislatures also passed protection laws.

In 2001, Ohio’s attorney general sued one ministry — known then as the Christian Brotherhood Newsletter, and now as Christian Healthcare Ministries — ultimately forcing its leaders to repay $15 million they had spent on homes, vehicles and excessive salaries out of the fund where members had sent payments. :lol

Members have filed a handful of lawsuits against Medi-Share after bills they had expected to be covered were not. The cases were settled out of court. While the health law requires the ministries to submit to annual independent audits, critics question whether that safeguard is sufficient.

“Our message has consistently been that this is not a health insurance product that we regulate, so buyer beware,” said Nick Gerhart, the insurance commissioner in Iowa. “A premature baby could cost $1 million pretty easily, so it wouldn’t take very many of those to put a significant strain on any group, let alone an unregulated group like this.”
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1031589/black-dynamite-helicopter-o.gif

[boutons_deux]

With no major legislation to his name, Trump brushes off importance of his first 100 days

The first 100 days were a big deal for candidate Trump. Now he thinks it’s ridiculous.


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1980294624/DJT_Headshot_V2_normal.jpgDonald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

No matter how much I accomplish during the ridiculous standard of the first 100 days, & it has been a lot (including S.C.), media will kill!
5:50 AM - 21 Apr 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/855373184861962240)

Trump hasn’t shepherded a major piece of legislation through Congress, despite the fact his party controls both chambers.

His second attempt at a Muslim ban executive order was blocked by a federal court.

The Affordable Care Act repeal/replace package Congress considered last month had a 17 percent approval rating and didn’t go anywhere.

The new package that’s in the works will make premiums spike for people with pre-existing conditions (https://thinkprogress.org/trumpcare-2-0-would-make-premiums-spike-for-people-with-pre-existing-conditions-ba9741670d68) and hence will likely be just as unpopular.


Will Jordan‏Verified account @williamjordann (https://twitter.com/williamjordann) Follow


Here is Trump's – signed! – "100-day action plan"


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C97-2ZbWsAAriCQ.jpg







5:42 AM - 21 Apr 2017


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9ts5EWXoAEhGP_.jpg





“Trump actually is unusual for his first 100 days but for a reason opposite of what he said.”


“Not only has he accomplished almost nothing, but rather

his initiatives (executive orders stayed by courts, a major legislative proposal failing even to come to a vote when his party controls both houses, etc.) have notoriously been unsuccessful,” he added.

A major consequence of Trump’s failure to get much done is that promises he made on the campaign trail have already been broken.

His first month in office featured 64 broken promises (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-broke-64-promises-in-his-first-month-in-office-5470f2c337e1), compared to just seven he was actually able to keep.

On the other hand, one thing

President Trump has accomplished is spending more time on golf courses during his first 100 days than the previous three presidents did combined (http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-trump-obama-golf-2017-4).

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-100-days-ridiculous-standard-69bddc80dc9


AWESOME ..... LOSER! :lol

[boutons_deux]

Ivanka is SO AWESOME WINNER, too

Librarians School Ivanka Trump After Tone-Deaf Tweet

She clearly misread the situation.

President Donald Trump released his proposed budget (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/with-elimination-of-nea-and-neh-trumps-budget-is-worst-case-scenario-for-arts-groups/2017/03/15/5291645a-09bb-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?utm_term=.3717fb18ad33) for 2018, which would gut four independent cultural agencies (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-reportedly-plans-to-end-national-arts-funding_us_5880de61e4b070d8cad0e184), including the Institute of Museum and Library Services (IMLS), The Washington Post reported.

Cutting federal funding for the IMLS would be devastating for ― you guessed it ― state and local libraries across the U.S.

Ivanka Trump (https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump)
(https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump)✔@IvankaTrump (https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump)

This #NationalLibraryWeek (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NationalLibraryWeek?src=hash), we honor our libraries and librarians for opening our eyes to the world of knowledge, learning and reading!
7:03 PM - 13 Apr 2017 (https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/852673521822126080)

:lol responses:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2153684341/image_normal.jpgMargaret Howard @Miss_Librarian (https://twitter.com/Miss_Librarian)

Your dad wants to cut all of our federal funding but thanks for the tweet. #SaveIMLS (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SaveIMLS?src=hash) https://twitter.com/ivankatrump/status/852673521822126080 … (https://t.co/N6o9xIGuFg)
7:50 PM - 13 Apr 2017 (https://twitter.com/Miss_Librarian/status/852685477920616448)



35,28035,280 Retweets (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=852685477920616448)


59,92659,926 likes (https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=852685477920616448)



etc, etc, etc :lol

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ivanka-trump-librarians-national-library-week_us_58f4c2b4e4b0b9e9848d001f?2g=&section=us_arts&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=culture%20shift%2004-21-2017&utm_content=culture%20shift%2004-21-2017+Version+A+CID_3524e8fdd96b78aca3bfe9198067d52 b&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=Read%20More&ncid=newsltushpmgspecialculture%20shift%2004-21-2017

[boutons_deux]

Another big loss

Trump says tax bill with "massive" cuts coming next week

Mnuchin initially set a goal of getting tax reform passed by August, but that deadline has slipped.

Mnuchin now says the administration still hoped to get a bill passed well before the end of the year. :lol

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-tax-bill-with-massive-cuts-coming-next-week/

publishing a tax BILL isn't the same as passing a tax LAW. :lol what a dumbfuck

[boutons_deux]

Another WIN! :lol

THE EMPTINESS OF TRUMP’S “BUY AMERICAN” EXECUTIVE ORDER

When Donald Trump unveiled his latest executive order, titled “Buy American and Hire American (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/18/presidential-executive-order-buy-american-and-hire-american),” he made only the barest effort to conceal the fact that the announcement was nearly entirely one of theatrics and not of substance.

He held his talk in Kenosha, Wisconsin, at Snap-on Tools, a firm that buys (https://qz.com/962973/donald-trump-launched-his-buy-american-hire-american-initiative-at-snap-on-tools-which-buys-and-hires-abroad/) Chinese and hires Chinese, Argentinian, Brazilian, and Swedish.

Seventy per cent of Snap-on’s sales are in the U.S., but many of its plants are in other countries.

There is nothing wrong with Snap-on putting its factories overseas, it just makes it an

odd place to hold a Buy American announcement. :lol

It’s reminiscent of President Trump’s celebration of jobs at a Boeing plant while the company was laying off (http://www.npr.org/2017/01/19/510423973/boeing-to-start-trump-era-with-new-wave-of-downsizing)workers (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/04/03/trumps-abuse-of-government-data). :lol

http://www.newyorker.com/business/adam-davidson/the-emptiness-of-trumps-buy-american-executive-order?mbid=nl_TNY%20Template%20-%20With%20Photo%20(159)&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=10869503&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1141688317&spReportId=MTE0MTY4ODMxNwS2

Trash is a Klown, an investment grade FOOL, will always pay out in idiocy.

Are we sick of winning! :lol

[DMX7]

The only thing that keeps him from getting an F on his first report card is that there hasn't been a terrorist attack, and we don't know if that's luck or if he's really done a great job with security. We know the muslim ban was a disgrace and a total scam. So who knows?

[boutons_deux]

A Fake and a Fraud

The Washington Post’s The Fix (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/17/the-myth-of-the-disillusioned-trump-voter/?utm_term=.b85c39388585) warned readers to beware “the myth of the disillusioned Trump voter,” citing a Pew Research Center poll (http://www.people-press.org/2017/04/17/public-dissatisfaction-with-washington-weighs-on-the-gop/) released Monday “showing very little buyer’s remorse among Trump voters.”

“The poll showed just 7 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say Trump has performed worse than they expected him to. Fully 38 percent — five times as many — say he has performed better.”

the stubborn human resistance to admitting a mistake should never be underestimated.

Admitting that Trump is failing, even when he is failing you and your family specifically, is an enormous pill to swallow.

Acknowledging that your blindness, selfishness and fear compelled you to buy into a man who is selling you out may take more time.

But I think that time is coming, because Trump is an unabashed leech and an unrepentant liar.

Trump cares only about Trump, his brand and his image, his family and his fortune. Indeed, his personal philosophy as president might best be described as clan over country.

Instead of being a grenade-throwing iconoclast bent on blowing up the D.C. establishment and the big-money power structures, he has stocked his inner circle with billionaires and bankers, and he has bent to the establishment.
Trump sold himself as a populist only to line his own pockets. Trump built his entire reputation not as the champion of the common man, but by curating his image as a crude effigy of the cultural elite.

He accrued his wealth by selling hollow dreams of high society to people who wanted to flaunt their money or pretend that they had some.

Put another way, Trump’s brand is built on exclusivity, not inclusivity. It is about the separate, vaulted position of luxury, above and beyond the ability for it to be accessed by the common. It is all about the bourgeois and has absolutely nothing to do with the blue collar.

And yet somehow, it was the blue collar that bought his bill of goods. People saw uncouth and thought unconventional; they saw raffish and thought rebel.

They projected principle and commitment onto a person anathema to both. Now, we all have to pay a hefty toll as Trump’s legions cling to thinning hope.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/20/opinion/a-fake-and-a-fraud.html

[boutons_deux]

Trash suckered you assholes again, FAKE xenphobia, WINNING!

U.S. will honor refugee agreement that Trump called ‘worst deal ever,’ Pence says

Trump had seemed willing to jeopardize relationship with Australia over the “dumb deal.

https://thinkprogress.org/u-s-will-honor-refugee-agreement-that-trump-called-worst-deal-ever-pence-says-a0a37021045b

[Reck]

Trash suckered you assholes again, FAKE xenphobia, WINNING!

U.S. will honor refugee agreement that Trump called ‘worst deal ever,’ Pence says

Trump had seemed willing to jeopardize relationship with Australia over the “dumb deal.

https://thinkprogress.org/u-s-will-honor-refugee-agreement-that-trump-called-worst-deal-ever-pence-says-a0a37021045b

Pence is starting to assert himself more and more as impeachment looms for Trumpie.

[boutons_deux]

Trash and his arm candy visit military hospital, "congratulate" solider on "winning" a Purple Heart.

:lol

[Reck]

A federal judge in California on Tuesday temporarily blocked the Trump administration’s efforts to withhold funding from cities that limit their cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, another setback for President Trump in what is shaping up to be a long season of litigation surrounding the clash between the White House and so-called sanctuary cities.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/us/judge-blocks-trump-sanctuary-cities.html?_r=0

WINNING!

[spurraider21]

states rights for the win!

[spurraider21]

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[spurraider21]

dont know if this is still accurate, as it's based on a WSJ report from last week... but the opposition to the wall isn't just "obstructing democrats" as even republicans from border states oppose adding wall funding to the budget

No Congress members along Mexico border support funding Trump's wall (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/330045-no-congress-members-along-mexico-border-support-funding-trumps)

[pgardn]

Lets run government like a business...

First step, rid ourselves of the separation of power.
Damn judges ruining everything.
Congress, what is this foreign beast... don't get it.

[Spurminator]

I will give Trump credit for abandoning lost causes very quickly. Trumpcare, the Wall, investigations into 3 million illegal votes. Dude knows when to quit. Next is learning when not to start.

[Splits]

Gott damn. I hadn't read this thread in a week. But seeing the pounding rmt has taken, I bet her asshole stretches 8 inches wide now.

Jesus fuck.

lol her "Christian insurance" shit is insane.

[ducks]

Poll: 93% of Trump Voters Approve of His Performance

[Adam Lambert]

Poll: 93% of Trump Voters Approve of His Performance

-7% flips several states, dumbass

[Adam Lambert]

858878940420743172

omg so tired of all the winning

[Adam Lambert]

Poll: 93% of Trump Voters Approve of His Performance

seriously tho lmao at bragging about "only" losing 7% support after 100 days

[Adam Lambert]

858837157279965184

:cry clinton foundation :cry
:cry drain the swamp :cry

[ducks]

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/18194738_903856253085604_8146969019690269599_n.jpg ?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=10300e98cfc3dbaa8801084a30d93e8d&oe=597B8D84

[Reck]

seriously tho lmao at bragging about "only" losing 7% support after 100 days

Not to mention this is from his actual core hick supporters which makes up his 40% base.

He's long since lost the independents and those scattered democrats who voted for him.

[DMC]

Don't you wish you liberal faggots would have gotten off your knees and voted?

:lol

[spurraider21]

:lol i swear, its like jingling keys in front of kittens. just keep rambling about the wall nonstop and keep getting applause
:lol no matter how low this number gets or how high
:lol dont even think about it, dont even think about it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nprIXSDAy5s

[UZER]

Has this been posted yet?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_GaDLPUFRU

Having to have your immigrant wife remind you to raise your hand. Embarrassing stuff from the American First faggot.

I hope she's there to remind not to bow to other world leaders.

[lefty]

Lol Trump knows nothing about the US Civil War

[boutons_deux]

Lol Trump knows nothing about the US Civil War

Lol Trump knows nothing

[lefty]

Lol Trump knows nothing
He knows wigs

[boutons_deux]

858837157279965184

:cry clinton foundation :cry
:cry drain the swamp :cry

Crooked Hillary!

[boutons_deux]

After congratulating the Turkish dictator for winning an "election", ...

Trash invites Rodrigo Duterte, the Philippines’ murderous authoritarian leader, to the White House

http://media.salon.com/2017/04/duterte-trump-620x412.jpg

The Philippine president has compared himself to Hitler and vowed to kill 3 million people. Now he's Trump's BFF

experts believe has left more than 7,000 people dead in less than a year from extrajudicial killings at the hands of police and vigilantes.

The Philippines is currently run by President Rodrigo Duterte, who won the election last June after his final campaign speech (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36251094), when he said,

“Forget the laws on human rights; if I make it to the presidential palace, I will do just what I did as mayor [of the coastal city of Davao].

You drug pushers, holdup men and do-nothings, you better go out because I’d kill you.”

He kept to his word, telling his police forces (http://www.kunc.org/post/under-hard-line-president-dozens-drug-suspects-killed-philippines) the day after he was sworn in, “Do your duty, and in the process, [if] you kill 1,000 persons, I will protect you.”

Last September Duterte proudly compared himself (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/30/asia/duterte-hitler-comparison/) to Adolf Hitler:

Hitler massacred 3 million Jews. Now there is 3 million, what is it, 3 million drug addicts [in the Philippines], there are.

I’d be happy to slaughter them.

At least if Germany had Hitler, the Philippines would have [me].

You know, my victims, I would like to be all criminals, to finish the problem of my country and save the next generation from perdition.


Duterte admitted to being a murderer, and not in the abstract sense of being a leader who orders killing by others. He says he has personally pulled the trigger. As the New York Times reported in December (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/world/asia/philippines-rodrigo-duterte-confirms-killings-davao.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&referer=http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2016%2F12%2F1 6%2Fworld%2Fasia%2Fphilippines-rodrigo-duterte-confirms-killings-davao.html%3Fsmid%3Dtw-share%26_r%3D0&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEDDM-QnZRv9Io8XYfRjy-Q-v0rqQ):

“I killed about three of them because there were three of them,” Mr. Duterte told reporters at a news conference in Manila, the capital.

“I don’t really know how many bullets from my gun went inside their bodies.”


http://www.salon.com/2017/05/01/trump-invites-rodrigo-duterte-the-philippines-murderous-authoritarian-leader-to-the-white-house-why-should-we-be-surprised/

[boutons_deux]

From the Ministry of Truth

Trump Campaign Going Up With $1.5 Million Ad Buy Promoting First 100 Days

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-campaign-ads-first1200-days?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

Here are fives times Donald Trump badly bungled basic American history

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/here-are-fives-times-donald-trump-badly-bungled-basic-american-history/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

14 ways Trump lost bigly with the budget deal

The “Art of the Deal.”

1. No funding for Trump’s border wall

Trump sought billions (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/senate-republicans-show-resistance-to-trump-suggested-cuts-in-spending-measure/2017/03/28/ce3b97d0-13dc-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html?utm_term=.76a3a1bdb81a) in funding a “down payment” for the wall, even though he campaigned on the claim that Mexico would pay for the wall, not U.S. taxpayers. However, there is reportedly (https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/858864683071279104) language in the bill explicitly barring construction of a new wall along the southern border. The Democratic appropriations summary (http://democrats.appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/wysiwyg_uploaded/FY17%20Omnibus%20Summary.pdf) says the omnibus “does not include… funding requested by President Trump to build a border wall or fencing on areas of the U.S.-Mexico border where no fencing currently exists.”

2. No provision to defund Planned Parenthood

Trump has repeatedly promised (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-made-a-lot-of-promises-about-what-he-will-do-as-president-weve-documented-663-of-them-3d28f0131e7f) to defund the reproductive health organization, which provides (https://thinkprogress.org/the-consequences-of-defunding-planned-parenthood-746f118331e9) health care, screenings, and birth control to underserved communities. He signed a law (http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/donald-trump-planned-parenthood-money/) this month that makes it easier for states to withhold Planned Parenthood funding. But this didn’t make it into the budget deal. The Democratic appropriations summary (http://democrats.appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/wysiwyg_uploaded/FY17%20Omnibus%20Summary.pdf) states that the deal contains no language defunding Planned Parenthood.

3. No drastic cuts for EPA

The bill keeps 99 percent of funding for the EPA, according (https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/858880335832113152) to congressional aides. The Environmental Protection Agency is already underfunded, so even a 1 percent cut will be felt among its critical programs, but this represents much less than the 31 percent cut (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/15/us/politics/budget-epa-state-department-cuts.html?_r=0) Trump has proposed for the next fiscal year. All current staff positions would be protected.

4. No funding for Trump’s deportation force

Democrats told reporters (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/deal-government-funding-reached-averting-shutdown-n753086) Sunday night that the deal had no funding for a “deportation force,” another incendiary policy that Trump has proposed (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-deportation-force-b81539c0cd10) to crack down on undocumented immigrants across the country.

5. Funding for Obamacare subsidies

Last week, Trump dropped his opposition (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-drops-opposition-obamacare-payments-avoid-government-shutdown-n751581) to funding subsides for low-income Americans to buy health insurance under the Affordable Care Act. This deal contains those subsidies. (Outside of the budget deal, however, the law is still being undermined (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-can-wound-obamacare-without-the-help-of-congress-6d2b70ff5e39) at the agency level, and can be threatened more in the coming months even without a repeal and replace bill.)

6. $2 billion increase for the NIH

The National Institutes of Health, which conducts life-saving medical research, has been a target (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/03/nih-doe-office-science-face-deep-cuts-trumps-first-budget) of Trump’s budget officials since he took office. Nonetheless, the omnibus bill would send $34.1 billion to NIH — $2 billion more than the agency currently receives, and $3.2 billion more than the Trump administration wanted for FY 2017. This includes a down-payment (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/30/budget-deal-congress-shutdown-237822) on the Obama-Biden administration’s cancer research “moonshot (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/health/biden-cancer-moonshot-cure-cancer/)” initiative.

7. Funding for Community Development Block Grants

According to his budget proposals, Trump would prefer to wipe out (http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/16/trumps-hud-budget-cuts-42-year-old-community-assistance-program.html) this program, which provides funding for Meals on Wheels programs around the country and helps low-income people who no longer have an affordable place to live. However, the omnibus budget would provide $3 billion for Community Development Block Grants (CDBG) — the same level of funding as exists now.

8. No provision to defund sanctuary cities

Trump has famously attacked “sanctuary cities,” a term used for cities and towns that decide to not cooperate with federal efforts to arrest undocumented immigrants. Attorney General Jeff Sessions was shut down in court (https://thinkprogress.org/jeff-sessions-amateurish-unconstitutional-assault-on-immigrants-dd6ab8a1671e) last week for threatening to cut funding from such jurisdictions. The omnibus does not contain any language prohibiting funds for these cities.

9. Funding for Puerto Rico

Last week, Trump drew a line in the sand on funding for Puerto Rico, currently grappling with a debt crisis:

He told Reuters the next day: “I don’t think that’s fair to the people of Iowa, and I don’t think it’s fair to the people of Wisconsin and Ohio and North Carolina and Pennsylvania that we should be bailing out Puerto Rico for billions and billions of dollars.”
Nonetheless, the budget deal reportedly includes $295 million (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/deal-government-funding-reached-averting-shutdown-n753086) for Puerto Rico’s Medicaid program.

10. Half of the requested funding for the military

Trump asked for a $30 billion increase in military spending for this fiscal year, and got half of that in the current budget deal. Some in the military were reportedly concerned that Trump would not be able to fulfill his promises to add hundreds of ships, a dozen infantry battalions, and over 1,000 aircraft to “rebuild (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/01/27/draft-executive-order-shows-how-trump-wants-to-grow-the-u-s-military-significantly/?utm_term=.ac45fd713789)” the armed forces.

11. Less than half of the requested funding for border security

The Trump administration wanted $3 billion more for border security, and instead will get $1.2 billion (http://democrats.appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/wysiwyg_uploaded/FY17%20Omnibus%20Summary.pdf) under the plan. This funding would go to technology and infrastructure improvements. The Democratic appropriations summary (http://democrats.appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/wysiwyg_uploaded/FY17%20Omnibus%20Summary.pdf) says the agreement “does not include a statutory requirement from prior years to maintain a minimum number of detention beds” or a “longstanding statutory requirement to maintain a minimum number of detention beds.”

12. Rise in non-defense domestic spending

Trump has called for $18 billion in cuts to domestic discretionary spending, but instead will have to sign a bill that grows the size of government. Several provisions in the omnibus — including the $4.6 billion Appalachian coal miners health extension and $2 billion in disaster relief — ensure that the budget will continue to rise even separate from the defense spending. This effectively breaks Trump’s campaign promises to cut domestic spending, zero out the deficit, and shrink the debt.

13. Non-defense domestic spending to rise

The $4.6 billion Appalachian coal miners health extension, $2 billion in disaster relief, and many other provisions ensure that the budget will continue to rise (http://democrats.appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/wysiwyg_uploaded/FY17%20Omnibus%20Summary.pdf) even separate from the defense spending. Trump had called for $18 billion (http://www.govexec.com/management/2017/03/trump-requests-dramatic-cuts-fy17-too/136224/) in cuts to domestic discretionary spending for the FY 2017 budget but instead will have to sign a bill that grows the size (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/congress-reaches-deal-to-keep-government-open-through-september/2017/04/30/5f58e9d2-2df7-11e7-9dec-764dc781686f_story.html?utm_term=.12aa6432ff4d) of government — again breaking campaign promises to shrink it, zero out the deficit, and shrink the debt.

14. No other poison pills

Even the most reasonable budget bill could be ruined by an extreme amendment unrelated to budgetary policy, called a rider or a poison pill, which have doomed budget plans in years past. There was concern that the GOP would attach policy riders to this budget deal, but according to (https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/858870584058544128) Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), the deal currently has none. That’s not to say that there will not be a push to attach one to the bill, but for right now, it appears to be a clean bill.

https://thinkprogress.org/14-ways-trump-lost-bigly-with-the-budget-deal-fbe42e852730

[boutons_deux]

‘The View’ audience boos Ann Coulter when she claims Trump ‘doesn’t lie’ and doesn’t hate the media


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http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/the-view-audience-boos-ann-coulter-when-she-claims-trump-doesnt-lie-and-doesnt-hate-the-media/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[DMX7]

‘The View’ audience boos Ann Coulter when she claims Trump ‘doesn’t lie’ and doesn’t hate the media


http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Screen-Shot-2017-05-01-at-11.07.03-AM.png

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/the-view-audience-boos-ann-coulter-when-she-claims-trump-doesnt-lie-and-doesnt-hate-the-media/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

His relationship with the media is probably more complex than it seems. However, there isn't a word to adequately describe how preposterous the claim "he doesn't lie" is.

[mavsfan1000]

At least crooked Hillary won't be President.

[clambake]

wow thats profound

[spurraider21]

Lol Trump knows nothing about the US Civil War
https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder672/500x/76774672/you-know-nothing-jon-snow-you-know-nothing-donald-trump.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Lets run government like a business...

First step, rid ourselves of the separation of power.
Damn judges ruining everything.
Congress, what is this foreign beast... don't get it.

Who knew it would be so hard.

Especially when you have the enemies of the state, i.e. media fighting you tooth and nail. I mean, you're the president for chrissakes, why are they so mean?

[RandomGuy]

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder672/500x/76774672/you-know-nothing-jon-snow-you-know-nothing-donald-trump.jpg

:lol

[RandomGuy]

Donald Trump on being president: “I thought it would be easier”


Donald Trump did not realize how much work being president of the United States would be. Really.

In an exclusive interview with Reuters, Trump reflected on the joys of his previous life. He misses being able to drive, having privacy, and having an easier job.

"I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," he told Reuters in an interview. "This is more work than in my previous life. I thought it would be easier."

[florige]

Donald Trump on being president: “I thought it would be easier”


I think he thought that being President would automatically make him king. I think the shear hatred that people have for him and his snot nose, spoiled kids, (especially Ivanka who he just put in a position of power just because) is bothering him. He hates the fact that Obama is treated like a rock star still while he is widely hated outside of the Mavsfans1000's of the world.

[mavsfan1000]

I think he thought that being President would automatically make him king. I think the shear hatred that people have for him and his snot nose, spoiled kids, (especially Ivanka who he just put in a position of power just because) is bothering him. He hates the fact that Obama is treated like a rock star still while he is widely hated outside of the Mavsfans1000's of the world.
:lol Plenty of people hate Obama to.

[RandomGuy]

The Sivel war
I meen had Andrew Jackson been a little later you would not have had the Sivel War.
He was a very tuff person, but he had a big heart. He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Sivel War, he said, “There’s no reason for this.”
People don’t realize, you know, the Sivel War, if you think about it, why? People don’t ask that question, but why was there a Sivel War? Why could that one not have been worked out?

By Donny, age 9

[mavsfan1000]

One step away from AHCA becoming law. :)

[Reck]

This hasn't gotten bumped in a week so...


according to two advisers who spoke on the condition of anonymity, has become sour and dark, turning against most of his aides — even his son-in-law, Jared Kushner — and describing them in a fury as “incompetent,” according to one of those advisers.

Even before the latest bombshell dropped, reports swirled in the White House that the president was about to embark on a major shake-up, probably starting with the dismissal or reassignment of Sean Spicer, the press secretary.



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/white-house-staff.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

How awesome are we still doing? :lol

[hitmanyr2k]

I listened to Spicer today and that dude sounded defeated during the press briefing. He wasn't his usual combative self. He was instead very subdued with his answers and hesitant. I think this shit show is starting to take its toll on the Trump crew.

[Thread]

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Thread]

Trump Vows to Survive and Thrive 'Siege'

Over at the Max:::

Culburn (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-ca11bceb2f314f3354424122ccfc473f/) • a minute ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/US-Comey-The-Latest/2017/06/08/id/794965/#comment-3349065917)

& there is 60 million+ Americans shoulder-to-shoulder with you, Mr. President. Let every arm be steeled.
You mopped the f'in' floor with her f'in' a ss. & nothing is going to change that.

Trump President. Not Clinton.





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[Thread]

In southwest Pennsylvania:::

[[[“Washington may be 180 miles down the road, but I want you to know each and every day, I’m fighting for you and all the forgotten men and women of America,” Trump said.

The mine will produce approximately 400,000 tons of coal annually for about 15 years and employ between 70 and 100 people. The coal is metallurgical, meant to be burned for production of steel and other metals.]]]

Trump, continuing to do great things.

[Thread]

Good morning, Arizona!!!

[Chris]

Trump Vows to Survive and Thrive 'Siege'

Over at the Max:::

Culburn (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-ca11bceb2f314f3354424122ccfc473f/) • a minute ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/US-Comey-The-Latest/2017/06/08/id/794965/#comment-3349065917)

& there is 60 million+ Americans shoulder-to-shoulder with you, Mr. President. Let every arm be steeled.
You mopped the f'in' floor with her f'in' a ss. & nothing is going to change that.

Trump President. Not Clinton.





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:lol :tu

[Chris]

Trump President, Not Clinton
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bf/e8/33/bfe833e77e471c02ea0df816c1ebf047.jpg

[Thread]

Trump President, Not Clinton
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bf/e8/33/bfe833e77e471c02ea0df816c1ebf047.jpg

[Thread]

Good morning, Arizona!!!

[Thread]

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Thread]

Good evening, Arizona!!!

[Chris]

Topsy

[Thread]

Topsy

[Thread]

Good Sabbath, Arizona!!!

[Thread]

Sunday mornin' comin' down. HE went Twitter & no one was spared.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Chris]

Great day to be an American :tu

[Thread]

Great day to be an American :tu

Yep, finally got rid of that rat's nest of Obama/Clinton.

[Thread]

Yep, finally got rid of that rat's nest of Obama/Clinton.

[Thread]

Great day to be an American :tu

[boutons_deux]

Trash is so awesome that Brits don't want his fat, sick, corrupt ass visiting UK.

[Thread]

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Thread]

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Thread]

Yep, finally got rid of that rat's nest of Obama/Clinton.

[Thread]

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Thread]

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Chris]

Topsy

[monosylab1k]

Topsy;

That's better.

[Chris]

https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19059935_908786612595383_4005961731145733736_n.jpg ?oh=f4d725982a70da544c5d8545cd041b07&oe=59DBE45A

[spurraider21]

^that goes to the whole N Korea thing

cult of personality

[Reck]

Wow. LOL

I keep asking my trumpies friends to show me one solid thing he's done to better America and American lives. They remain silent on the matter.

[Thread]

Wow. LOL

I keep asking my trumpies friends to show me one solid thing he's done to better America and American lives. They remain silent on the matter.

He left her where he found her---dead in the ground.

[Adam Lambert]

sympathy post to acknowledge cubby exists and seems pretty desperate to be noticed

[Reck]

He left her where he found her---dead in the ground.

That still doesn't solve where America has lots of jobs as he promised. I mean, the sucker promised you a wall. You of all people should feel this one being from Arizona and having to deal with them illegals on a daily basis and all.

[baseline bum]

He left her where he found her---dead in the ground.

He never put her in jail. Just more proof he's a chickenshit who can't back his campaign promises up.

[Thread]

He never put her in jail. Just more proof he's a chickenshit who can't back his campaign promises up.

I love the guyPERIOD

[Thread]

That still doesn't solve where America has lots of jobs as he promised. I mean, the sucker promised you a wall. You of all people should feel this one being from Arizona and having to deal with them illegals on a daily basis and all.

Christ, he's only been President for less than 5 months.

He's made America great again.

[Thread]

He left her where he found her---dead in the ground.

[baseline bum]

I love the guyPERIOD

What happened to lock her up?

[Thread]

What happened to lock her up?

He busted her hole---that's enough for me.

[baseline bum]

He busted her hole---that's enough for me.

Promises not kept

[Thread]

Promises not kept

He barred her, her husband and their hump kid from entering that House again. That's enough for me.

[Splits]

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[Thread]

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They beat James, that's enough for me.

Kobe: 5

James: 3

[baseline bum]

He barred her, her husband and their hump kid from entering that House again. That's enough for me.

Promises not kept, the bitch remains free.

[Thread]

Promises not kept, the bitch remains free.

But, she didn't go back into that House. That's enough for me.

[baseline bum]

They beat James, that's enough for me.

Kobe: 5

James: 3

Imagine if James could win a title shooting 6-24.

[baseline bum]

But, she didn't go back into that House. That's enough for me.

He promised to lock her up but it was empty as his healthcare, infrastructure, and job promises.

[Thread]

Imagine if James could win a title shooting 6-24.

Oh, my goodness, [they'd] have a sit & figure that out---then lionize him. It'd be a good thing.

Say, like [they'd] have a sit & figure out how to canonize Hillary for having a meeting with her Cabinet like Trump had with his yesterday.

Hey, bum, this old fuck here---I know exactly how it goes.

[Thread]

He promised to lock her up but it was empty as his healthcare, infrastructure, and job promises.

He opened up that mine in PA. over the weekend. That's 70 jobs right there.

[baseline bum]

He opened up that mine in PA. over the weekend. That's 70 jobs right there.

He promised to lock her up but it was empty as his healthcare, infrastructure, and job promises.

[Thread]

He promised to lock her up but it was empty as his healthcare, infrastructure, and job promises.

He kept her from the House. That's enough for me.

[Splits]

874472650038366208

no 6/24s in there

[Thread]

874472650038366208

no 6/24s in there

Kobe: 5

The tired old shit bag James: 3

[baseline bum]

He kept her from the House. That's enough for me.

That's why you're a Trump fan: low expectations.

[Thread]

That's why you're a Trump fan: low expectations.

I'm over at the old man's Twitter:::

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[Splits]

I'm over at the old man's Twitter:::

874671619645374465

:lmao not a single like or retweet ever
:lmao 2 followers

[Thread]

:lmao not a single like or retweet ever
:lmao 2 followers

I'm not there to curry favor, Splits. I'm there to love President Trump.

It's my religion.

[Thread]

Onward Christian fighting soldier!!!

[Splits]

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lol 60% disapproval, a number Obummer never hit in 8 years

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[Thread]

Onward Christian fighting soldier!!! With the cross of Jesus, going on before...

[SnakeBoy]

That's why you're a Trump fan: low expectations.

We can't all have the soaring expectations of Hillary voters.

[spurraider21]

What happened to lock her up?
"Promises, promises."

-Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

[Thread]

Over at the Max:::

norcalguy101 (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-f85c42d6294068b7dac7cb5cba271c87/) • a minute ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-Trump-Russia-Probe/2017/06/13/id/795684/#comment-3358004522)Why is every single member in Congress, both in the House and the Senate, have continued to ignore Julian Assange's statements to Sean Hannity?
What part about 'Russia was not the party that forwarded the DNC e-mails to Wikileaks, nor any other sovereign state'?
Why?
Because it was Seth Conrad Rich who was subsequently shot in the back.
Not once.
But twice.








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[Chris]

We can't all have the soaring expectations of Hillary voters.

[Chris]

Over at the Max:::

norcalguy101 (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-f85c42d6294068b7dac7cb5cba271c87/) • a minute ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-Trump-Russia-Probe/2017/06/13/id/795684/#comment-3358004522)Why is every single member in Congress, both in the House and the Senate, have continued to ignore Julian Assange's statements to Sean Hannity?
What part about 'Russia was not the party that forwarded the DNC e-mails to Wikileaks, nor any other sovereign state'?
Why?
Because it was Seth Conrad Rich who was subsequently shot in the back.
Not once.
But twice.








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They don't like to talk about Seth or the other people who were murdered that were involved with the Clintons Cub. They prefer to sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist. I mean who can blame them though - as long as it's not your sister, mom, dad, kids, etc..who's got time for that nonsense these days?

[clambake]

you know what i like about you, chris?

we could wade through your deepest political thoughts and never get our ankles wet.

[Thread]

I'm with the old man in WI.>>>

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[spurraider21]

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[Thread]

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Sure beats sittin' here watching you bust my hole with President Clinton in that House.

[spurraider21]

Sure beats sittin' here watching you bust my hole with President Clinton in that House.
I'm not the kind to just call "scoreboard" for months on end, so I wouldn't have been busting ur hole with Clinton. I was never exactly an Obamanite, and I liked Clinton less than that... a lot of the lefties here kept calling me a conservative/republican.

supporting a leader is fine. worshipping a leader is for pussies.

[Chris]

Yeah because Trump has the mass media and propaganda totally working for him :lol wtf ^^

[boutons_deux]

anybody electing a politician on his/her personality, likability, wanna have a beer with, is an asshole.

[spurraider21]

Yeah because Trump has the mass media and propaganda totally working for him :lol wtf ^^
was referring more to the result... the "idealized, heroic, and at times worshipful image, often through unquestioned flattery or praise."

you can't deny there's a lot of that with his supporters, and even some from the "I'm not a trump supporter, but..." crowd. i remember fucks like m>s were posting memes of him being an emperor, etc, and gladly being subservient to him. it's quite odd

[Thread]

I'm not the kind to just call "scoreboard" for months on end, so I wouldn't have been busting ur hole with Clinton. I was never exactly an Obamanite, and I liked Clinton less than that... a lot of the lefties here kept calling me a conservative/republican.

supporting a leader is fine. worshipping a leader is for pussies.

My sweet ass you wouldn't of. You'd not be as brazen as me, yes, but, you'd drop my pants at regular intervals.

[spurraider21]

My sweet ass you wouldn't of. You'd not be as brazen as me, yes, but, you'd drop my pants at regular intervals.
I'd tell you when you're wrong, and I still do that now. But you'd never be wrong "because of" an election result.

[Thread]

He barred her, her husband and their hump kid from entering that House again. That's enough for me.

[Thread]

Happy Birthday, President Trump!!!

[Thread]

Topsy

[Chris]

Onward Christian fighting soldier!!!

[ducks]

Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
·
1h

Crooked H destroyed phones w/ hammer, 'bleached' emails, & had husband meet w/AG days before she was cleared- & they talk about obstruction?

USA USA USA

[clambake]

grrrrrrrrr

[clambake]

hillary got snuffed.

half way there.

[Chris]

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[Thread]

Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
·
1h

Crooked H destroyed phones w/ hammer, 'bleached' emails, & had husband meet w/AG days before she was cleared- & they talk about obstruction?

USA USA USA

[spurraider21]

:lol chris pointing out exactly what i meant by cult of personality

[Thread]

:lol chris pointing out exactly what i meant by cult of personality

I'll tell you what, 21:::you go first. You & yours start it up, show us the way. But, daddy-O, we ain't goin' first. I want to get good & blood drunk before I follow in.

[Chris]

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[Chris]

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[Thread]

Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
·
1h

Crooked H destroyed phones w/ hammer, 'bleached' emails, & had husband meet w/AG days before she was cleared- & they talk about obstruction?

USA USA USA

[Thread]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Thread]

Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
·
1h

Crooked H destroyed phones w/ hammer, 'bleached' emails, & had husband meet w/AG days before she was cleared- & they talk about obstruction?

USA USA USA

[clambake]

he seems upset.

[Thread]

he seems upset.

He could be playin' possum.

[RandomGuy]

D3JX4m4nJKw

[pgardn]

Trump in all his wisdom...
The Cheeto does not have the slightest notion that people like to watch car wrecks.

"The Fake News Media hates when I use what has turned out to be my very powerful Social Media — over 100 million people! I can go around them,”



Does he understand that a large % of the people reading his tweets do so to see what the crazy fck is going to run into next?

[Chris]

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[pgardn]

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Go right around them and off the bridge Donald.
Thanks.

[Chris]

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[pgardn]

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I imagine he could fail and keeping terrorists out of our country.
And fail 2 or 3 times straight... Oh wait. Failure accomplished.

[Chucho]

He ate that shit like the horseflesh he feasts on.

This was after rigor mortis had set in. He wanted to make absolutely certain one of them was stiff.

[Chris]

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[Thread]

Get up there & act like somebody.

[Chris]

"Let's get to work" -DTJr.

[Thread]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Thread]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[ducks]

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[SnakeBoy]

50% approval rating

[Pavlov]

50% approval ratingThanks to you for link. Americans so proud and transparent with information available to public.

[Adam Lambert]

rassmussen, obviously, because they get their results from a pool of 500 corn farmers

[Pavlov]

Certainly brave American big boy not afraid to say where he get numbers.

[Thread]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

rassmussen, obviously, because they get their results from a pool of 500 corn farmers

http://i68.tinypic.com/2ntlb29.jpg

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What Rasmussen has had is a “house effect”. So far in the 2010 cycle, their polling has consistently and predictably shown better results for Republican candidates than other polling firms have.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-rasmussen-reports-biased/

[Thread]

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-rasmussen-reports-biased/

It's like that 98+% assurance that big shot Hillary would be POTUS. Then he stepped thru & mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

No more big shot.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's like that 98+% assurance that big shot Hillary would be POTUS. Then he stepped thru & mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

No more big shot.

Then you look at the polls in the week leading up to the election and you see that it was a statistical uncertainty. You're just ass hurt because he was down double digits for so long.

Hillary ran a shitty passive campaign playing not to lose and as a flawed candidate that was a stupid idea. By the beginning of the November the polls were well within the margin of error if slightly in her favor.

The national polls ended up being extremely accurate given that Trump lost the popular vote by 2%. The state by state polls were also money.

I get that you need the comfort of disbelieving things you don't want to hear but you cannot say you have not been told.

[Thread]

Then you look at the polls in the week leading up to the election and you see that it was a statistical uncertainty. You're just ass hurt because he was down double digits for so long.

Hillary ran a shitty passive campaign playing not to lose and as a flawed candidate that was a stupid idea. By the beginning of the November the polls were well within the margin of error if slightly in her favor.

The national polls ended up being extremely accurate given that Trump lost the popular vote by 2%. The state by state polls were also money.

I get that you need the comfort of disbelieving things you don't want to hear but you cannot say you have not been told.

98+% Hillary was going to be POTUS.

[Thread]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Chris]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Pavlov]

That why he under investigation, not Clinton.

[Reck]

"Let's get to work" -DTJr.

Let's get to work...by not involving democrats to work on shit like healthcare and so on. :tu

[Chris]

Let's get to work...by not involving democrats to work on shit like healthcare and so on. :tu

Obamacare is/was a disaster. Millions of Americans lost their doctors and saw their interests skyrocket. Why would we want Dems anywhere near our healthcare?

[Reck]

Obamacare is/was a disaster. Millions of Americans lost their doctors and saw their interests skyrocket. Why would we want Dems anywhere near our healthcare?

Because at least we wouldn't have healthcare that is at 12% aproval? :lol

Republicans know even less than the democrats when it comes to healthcare. At least Obamacare has decent aproval ratings and suddenly people that hated it want it to stay.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/207671/affordable-care-act-gains-majority-approval-first-time.aspx

[Thread]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Thread]

Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump
·
1h

Crooked H destroyed phones w/ hammer, 'bleached' emails, & had husband meet w/AG days before she was cleared- & they talk about obstruction?

USA USA USA

[Thread]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

98+% Hillary was going to be POTUS.

In September. I get that this type of thing is difficult for you though.

[Thread]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Thread]

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[Chris]

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[ducks]

Special counsel Robert Mueller has not yet decided whether to investigate President Donald Trump as part of a wide-ranging Russia probe, according to ABC News.

In a report on the outlet's Sunday show, "This Week," ABC News senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas said his choice will be "momentous."

"Now my sources are telling me he's begun some preliminary planning," Thomas said. "Plans to talk to some people in the administration. But he's not yet made that momentous decision to go for a full-scale investigation."

[Thread]

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[Chris]

m-8f41rPLEI

[Thread]

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[Thread]

Just as an aside Culver's is giving away a one scoop/two toppings sundae today for Father's Day. Not all of them, but, some. I'm going to venture over about 8PM in hopes the line ain't too long. If it's too long I may just jockey over to Smashburger and get that chocolate shake. It's the best over the counter shake I've ever experienced.

[Chris]

Just as an aside Culver's is giving away a one scoop/two toppings sundae today for Father's Day. Not all of them, but, some. I'm going to venture over about 8PM in hopes the line ain't too long. If it's too long I may just jockey over to Smashburger and get that chocolate shake. It's the best over the counter shake I've ever experienced.

We unfortunately do not have a Culvers or a Smashburger in the area but that sounds delicious. I can say with certainty that the Olmos Pharmacy in San Antonio has the best shakes I have ever tasted.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You guys have quite the circle jerk going on.

BTW, Trumps disapproval rating amongst GOP voters is up to 25%. It is the highest it has ever been.

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-latest-problem-base-republicans-are-fleeing-russia-investigation-626723

[rmt]

After the election and how the media/polls got it wrong, why would anyone believe in any polls? If anything, I'd think his support would be stronger with all the rubbish that's going on - not that his supporters would take kindly to answering these polls (truthfully) anyway. Congress needs to get off their butts and pass stuff for him to sign. I am weary and wary about all these EOs which can be reversed easily.

[Adam Lambert]

After the election and how the media/polls got it wrong, why would anyone believe in any polls?

the polls showed hrc winning the popular vote by a few % pts, and she did.

how many times does this have to be pointed out to you retards?

[Thread]

the polls showed hrc winning the popular vote by a few % pts, and she did.

how many times does this have to be pointed out to you retards?

Because they also claimed that there was a 98+% chance of Hillary being POTUS.

Just before he mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

[baseline bum]

After the election and how the media/polls got it wrong, why would anyone believe in any polls? If anything, I'd think his support would be stronger with all the rubbish that's going on - not that his supporters would take kindly to answering these polls (truthfully) anyway. Congress needs to get off their butts and pass stuff for him to sign. I am weary and wary about all these EOs which can be reversed easily.

The polls weren't that far off. They had Clinton winning the national vote by 4 points and she only won by 2. It's a pretty standard margin of error in presidential elections, and as Nate Silver kept writing, a 1.5 point polling error in Trump's favor would be enough to give him the election because the Clinton firewall was extremely fragile. The pundits who analyzed the polls and implicitly treated the states like independent random variables were who screwed up.

[Adam Lambert]

Because they also claimed that there was a 98+% chance of Hillary being POTUS.

Just before he mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

can you die soon please? thanks in advance.